Transformers: ROTF User Review Thread

[Papa Burgundy]

what is up with michael bay and animals having sex? HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN BAD BOYS 2? THEY HAD A SCENE OF TWO FREAKIN RATS HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER!!

hes so into beastiality. freakin weirdo

[The Guard]

You haven't even seen the movie and you dissect people's posts who've had and are just giving their opinion.

You mean "quoting" people?

I want to know what they mean by "accept".

I don't understand the context it's being used in.

I don't believe we have a choice whether or not to accept it, unless we just become delusional.

[sandmjuggalos]

There's not some conspiracy to stop you from seeing it buddy. You're free to do as you wish. We're just venting over one of the most disappointing film experiences some of us have ever had. A huge let down.

I never stated there was any kind of conspiracy against me watching this movie. You are obviously jumping to conclusions. I hear what you are saying, but the way I see it, much is being WAY over analysed. I was just breathing some fresh air into this thread, seeing as it's gone to "Hater Town" and everyone seems to just be bashing.

As I stated before, I don't give a hoot how "bad" it is. I just want to see some of my favorite sentient robots from the 80's kick some butt. If you are already a Transformers fan/nerd/geek, then you already know the story behind it and what we're getting is the action in between. It doesn't bother me in the least.

I've naught more to say than, "Bring on the giant transforming robots!".

[블라스]

I can't have people comparing this in any way to the Rambo series :cmad:

[danoyse]

Danoyse,

I'm not trying to be rude here but the content of the film isn't that bad. In my opinion it's people overexaggerating due to them being too sensitive about everything.

My opinion is there's nothing about this film that's offensive, vulgar, or mean spirited. It's Transformers on the big screen blowing stuff up with a few profane words, sexual innuendos, and etc. But you see and hear this stuff on regular television, the internet, and in everyday life. A lot of the stuff that people are complaining about lasts for a second or two, if that. It's so sudden that if you blink you'll miss it honestly.

Yeah, but my 7- and 5-year-old nephews are not allowed to watch TV shows or movies with that kind of content. Their parents are very careful not to let them watch that kind of stuff. They haven't seen the first movie and I'm willing to bet they won't be seeing this one either.

It's not overprotective parenting, it's just common sense (and btw, any parent who takes their child to a Saw movie is just a bad parent). And it sounds like Michael Bay and especially Steven Spielberg should have taken that into consideration when they made a movie that's so obviously geared towards kids to maybe lighten up on the frat-boy innuendo.

My friends with kids aren't these hyper-sensitive parents who need every movie on a G-rated level for the sake of their children. They love these movies. It's just beyond annoying when movies are marketed toward their kids but then it winds up being filled with stuff that's just inappropriate for them to see.

[hitmanyr2k]

I can't have people comparing this in any way to the Rambo series :cmad:

Well, for one thing the makers of the Rambo movies weren't dumb enough to extend those movies to 2.5 hours with needless, idiotic scenes.

[The Lizard]

I've seen parents bring their kids to the SAW films. So seriously I don't think your hate will derail this film one bit. If parents aren't offended by the SAW films and take their kids to see them, then I doubt they'll be up in arms over robots making sexual innuendos, cuss, and etc.

Tip: Those parents are ****ing idiots and not in the majority.

[Joker8906]

Went to the midnight showing was 2 tired to type anything up.

I have mixed feelings on the movie, I thought it was awesome visually, the transformation sequences this time around looked so much smoother, and when Prime transforms in mid air the audience couldn't help but act like the fanboys we are.

However aside from the visuals, the movie just didn't do it for me. Mainly because it was to effin' long. I'm sorry but 45 minutes to an hour of that should have been cut. I am used to long movies, i saw the Dark Knight well over 12 times in theaters, saw Watchmen 3 times, and saw Grindhouse twice in theaters. But the pacing wasn't good enough to keep this thing over 2.5 hours. As for the story and character development, when it comes to Bay films I really throw a lot of my usual movie criticness out the window, I don't expect some highly intricate plot, and I dont expect to see complex moral dilemas. I expect to see **** blow up, which it did. But there was NO character development what so ever. Characters that were so well established in the fist one like Ebbs and Lennox, hell even ironhide and Ratchet kinda got sidelined.

In terms of the annoying humor the twins, the banana hammock, wrecking ball...balls, and wall.e humping Megan Fox well its Bay..nuff said.

5/10

[Rock Sexton]

What I'm saying is people see and hear profanity, sexual innuendos, and stupid stuff on a daily basis in real life, the internet, and regular television.

You can turn on any news station or any reality television series and see the same thing hence why there's nothing offensive in this. People who get offended by Transformers needs to grow up in my opinion. People are offended by EVERYTHING today and it doesn't help when you cry, complain, and whine over the little over the top stupidity that lasts for a second or two.

It's so quick and sudden that if you blink you'll miss it.

Oh and by the way, I saw lots of kids at the midnight premiere with their parents and I've seen parents bring their kids to the SAW films. So seriously I don't think your hate will derail this film one bit. If parents aren't offended by the SAW films and take their kids to see them, then I doubt they'll be up in arms over robots making sexual innuendos, cuss, and etc.

We need to grow up? And to think you're the one championing mindless, frat boy humor in the disguise of a sci-fi movie.

You have absolutely no idea who you're talking to. I'm a guy who has an obnoxious sense of humor. I'm a big fan of rude, vulgar comedies. That's not what Transformers is supposed to be!

And btw, please stop it with this ridiculous notion I'm trying to stop people from seeing this movie. A very childish accusation. Seems to be the center piece of the fan boy argument.

[Mr. Para-Normal]

Went to the midnight showing was 2 tired to type anything up.

I have mixed feelings on the movie, I thought it was awesome visually, the transformation sequences this time around looked so much smoother, and when Prime transforms in mid air the audience couldn't help but act like the fanboys we are.

However aside from the visuals, the movie just didn't do it for me. Mainly because it was to effin' long. I'm sorry but 45 minutes to an hour of that should have been cut. I am used to long movies, i saw the Dark Knight well over 12 times in theaters, saw Watchmen 3 times, and saw Grindhouse twice in theaters. But the pacing wasn't good enough to keep this thing over 2.5 hours. As for the story and character development, when it comes to Bay films I really throw a lot of my usual movie criticness out the window, I don't expect some highly intricate plot, and I dont expect to see complex moral dilemas. I expect to see **** blow up, which it did. But there was NO character development what so ever. Characters that were so well established in the fist one like Ebbs and Lennox, hell even ironhide and Ratchet kinda got sidelined.

In terms of the annoying humor the twins, the banana hammock, wrecking ball...balls, and wall.e humping Megan Fox well its Bay..nuff said.

5/10

Okay I mean I like the Dark knight too and it is a fantastic movie but seeing it 12 times in theaters is Too much really thats just obsessive. i would never pay to see any movie 12 times in theaters its a waste of money.

[bdorpetzl]

Mainly because it was to effin' long. I'm sorry but 45 minutes to an hour of that should have been cut.

I tend to think that the editing of a movie is really where you can either win or lose an audience. Many movies that are not considered good, can usually be polished and tightened by editing. A perfect example of this are the Star Wars Prequels. A bit of editing here and there and one could make a trilogy on par with the Original Trilogy. Poor editing IMHO is a problem caused by the editor(s), director and producer(s).

[Joker8906]

Okay I mean I like the Dark knight too and it is a fantastic movie but seeing it 12 times in theaters is Too much really thats just obsessive. i would never pay to see any movie 12 times in theaters its a waste of money.


lol dude I work at a theater FREE I only paid for my midnight and my IMAX viewing and eh ppl kept asking me 2 see it and i had nothing better to do.

And exactly the editing of a movie is an amazing thing, the reason movies like TDK worked with their run time is because u get so caught up in it and it has a steady pace almost every 30 minutes we had a pretty awesome sequence.

Take this movie, or even bays Pearl harbor...sorry dude but if it takes you 2.75 hours to get INTO the attack you messed up somewhere. Though to be fair I dont think I can blame all of this on Bay, well yes i can because the script just felt RUSHED which it was before the writers strike, bay said he did action sequences while they were on strike and then the writers had to work around those sequences.

[Figs]

I just hope that this movie (and others like it that are surely to follow) don't turn childrens entertainment in to mean spirited vulgarity. This isn't the kind of movie that kids should look back on with a sense of childlike wonder.

Sad to say but those are the times we're in if not quickly headed towards. The days of desensitizing everyone to just about everything. I like most of Bay's past films but everything I'm hearing about TF2 really has me pissed and I haven't even seen the movie yet. It's pretty ****** when you know kids under the age of 13 with or without their families are going to be seeing this and a good amount of the humour everyone is describing is too much for IMO for kids that young.

I'm 28 and am not super conservative, I still watch and enjoy porn from time to time, so this isn't me being some finger pointer trying to tell people what they can or can't watch. I just think that certain subject matter regardless of what people say just shouldn't be viewed by certain young ages. Way to desensitize and dumb down our youth Bay.

I'm still a fan but christ he needs to open his eyes and realize that this so called humour is pretty F'ing lame and over done. I do realize and agree that it's the parents responsibility to check reviews and whatnot to make sure they know what they're kids will be watching but it's still a bit shady when they advertise this film as an action packed summer film for the family when it has adult level humour in it.

I'll be seeing it this weekend and giving a review, my excitement is way down though :(

[Lando81]

On par with Iron Man and Star Trek. Paramount is healing the wounds of Indy IV.

10/10

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah, but my 7- and 5-year-old nephews are not allowed to watch TV shows or movies with that kind of content. Their parents are very careful not to let them watch that kind of stuff. They haven't seen the first movie and I'm willing to bet they won't be seeing this one either.

It's not overprotective parenting, it's just common sense (and btw, any parent who takes their child to a Saw movie is just a bad parent). And it sounds like Michael Bay and especially Steven Spielberg should have taken that into consideration when they made a movie that's so obviously geared towards kids to maybe lighten up on the frat-boy innuendo.

My friends with kids aren't these hyper-sensitive parents who need every movie on a G-rated level for the sake of their children. They love these movies. It's just beyond annoying when movies are marketed toward their kids but then it winds up being filled with stuff that's just inappropriate for them to see.

I somewhat take offense to this because I was the child taken to heavy R-rated films, and I turned out just fine and could handle these things. So, since I was exposed to R-rated films and such, like Alien, Robocop, Predator, Terminator, etc when I was young that I am the product of bad parenting? I can't disagree with you more.

[Rock Sexton]

On par with Iron Man and Star Trek. Paramount is healing the wounds of Indy IV.

10/10

More like pouring giant bags of salt on them..........

[SsM]

On par with Iron Man and Star Trek. Paramount is healing the wounds of Indy IV.

10/10


Considering Indy 4 has much better all around reviews... I think you are mistaken.

[Joker8906]

In response to Spider-fan

Theres a difference though man, I mean I'm with you I grew up on all the mentioned films, and I'm normal. But the Saw/ Hostle franchise is based around people torturing and mutilating people with terminator and alien robocop and predator I knew it was sci fi as robots aliens and cyborgs at the time were beyond the relem of reality, seeing a man cut a mans throat open with a circular saw, then have his wifes face get blown off by a shotgun collar is different as that could is a more reality based thing.

as for the 10/10.

NO Iron Man and Star Trek were Epic this was....better than wolverine and Terminator Salvation

[CEREBRAL....]

Well i just got back from the movie, it was ok...i give it a 5/10 or 6/10...somethings i thought i would been pist about, i wasn't and somethings i thought i would be excited about, i wasn't.

The overall flow of the movie was fine to me, although there were some scenes that lack'd I still thought the flow was fine. I enjoy'd "the mother" i thought she was funny and the best actor(next to shia) on the whole film. Although her "high scene" was a bit over the top, I've always enjoyed her character. "Soundwave" wasn't that bad although it would of been great to see more of him..i thought he was used fine (spoiler) would of been cool to hear him say "ravage eject, eject eeeeject." when ravage was ejected. This time around i enjoy'd the voice acting by Weaver as megs and the last scene i thought was great between optimus vs the fallen, pretty decent ending. Optimus is as advertised! Well done depictation of Optimus, too bad this wasn't translated to the other TFs!

now the bad. Basically it's no diff. then anyone elses view. Lack of robot character development. I could of done w/o all the misc. robots both autobots(twiins) and deceps (the chick decep was annoying. Both human and robot)..why not give the other named/known bots more screen time? To many misc. deceps., and for all those little insect deceps they could of used "Soundwaves" real minions..they would served the same purpose (especially the fact that they probably wouldn't of gotten much gotten dialogue)...probably would of been a cooler look. The only deceps that actually spoke and had any character was megs and starscream...why not have starscream interact with other deceps, why just megs? (lack of character development). The twins didnt annoy me as much as "leo" did. I seen no point in his character (amoung other characters as well).

Didn't care for "jetfire", well M.Bay's version of him. I really thought Megan Fox served no purpose as well in this film. I can still hear her screaming "Sam!!" in my head..i mean that's all she really did...."The constructicons" were missed used. I bet the general audience never knew who they were or their overall name once they turn'd into devastator. Why wasn't there any interaction with megs and them..they kind of act'd independently, well to me, with no guidence or leadership. Speaking of "leadership" I think megs "bowing" to "The Fallen" took away from his overall ruthlessness to me. Who here who knows the TF methodology knows of Megatron bowing to anyone!? Even if he knew they were stronger, the megs i'm aware of wouldn't call anyone "his lord"!

Quickly killing off deceps the audi (forgot his name) i thought was pointless...I still dont like the designs of megs and starscream (and devastator)...megs to me still looks unfinish'd, like they are still trying to figure out what they are gonna do with him....

i really would like to see this franchise in the hands of another director and writing team..just to see what they can do..i think Bay did what Bay knows best....so this is what you got...but i would like to see another director who is not a "one trick pony"..

also playing up to Shia's damage hand was done poorly..how is it, that his hand gets damaged in the desert and his girl happens to have bandages to aid him IN THE DESERT???? Out in the middle of nowhere!??...i thought they could of done it in a more sensible scene...

[chaseter]

I somewhat take offense to this because I was the child taken to heavy R-rated films, and I turned out just fine and could handle these things. So, since I was exposed to R-rated films and such, like Alien, Robocop, Predator, Terminator, etc when I was young that I am the product of bad parenting? I can't disagree with you more.
I will second this. My dad took me to numerous rated R movies because I asked to go. No I wasn't 5 years old but a teenager, I see nothing wrong with it. It is more about knowing your child than just saying NO to everything. Glad my parents didn't lock me up for 18 years.

[Lando81]

Considering Indy 4 has much better all around reviews... I think you are mistaken.
Nope Not Really. But to each his own!

[SsM]

21% compared to 76% based on gathered reviews pretty much says it all.

[Figs]

I somewhat take offense to this because I was the child taken to heavy R-rated films, and I turned out just fine and could handle these things. So, since I was exposed to R-rated films and such, like Alien, Robocop, Predator, Terminator, etc when I was young that I am the product of bad parenting? I can't disagree with you more.

I grew up the same way watching a numer of R rated films but obviously like yours, my parents raised me right and taught me right from wrong.

I'm sorry but I don't like to do generalizations but from what I've seen of our current society and the numbers increasing on teen pregnancies(which has happened to a number of people I know personally in the past) I don't see there being nearly as many responsible and dedicated parents out there anymore.

Look at the society we live in, no one likes to take responsibility for their actions and everyone is sue happy, even when whatever happened to them turns out to be their fault(Dumb ***** who spilt coffee on herself from McDonalds was one of the starters of this ignorant and childish trend). It's not a great thing or attitude to be shown/reflected on our youth, I've already seen too many really young kids that are spoiled brats on a level I never knew as a kid in the 80's. It's all about the maturity of the parents truthfully but I agree with Danoyse to an extent because I just don't see it in our society.

[Chris B]

My two cents: I enjoyed this a lot better than the first movie. I thought the story was simply a lot more engaging than TF1 for one thing, and seeing Optimus Prime as the badass fighter he's suppose to be as well as Megatron's and Starscream's unique dynamic come to life was awesome. While I'm disappointed that Soundwave didn't have a larger role, I loved the scenes when he did show up with Frank Welker reprising the role to boot. Ravage and Sideswipe were cool. I also liked Jetfire despite the reimagined take on the character.

My main gripes being that while I liked the Fallen he got taken out to easily. Devastator was a missed opportunity for the most part. And while the TF's themselves came more to the forefront, I still think that better characterization could been used in a few areas. By extension, I wasn't crazy about the fact that old characters like Ironhide and Ratchet and a potentially new character like Sideswipe were relegated to background characters due to Skids and Mudflap having too much screentime. And most of the Decepticons were once again too much canon fodder that gets killed by the military.

My rating would be 9/10.

[chaseter]

Nope Not Really. But to each his own!
Yeah really.

Sad to see that someone thinks this was better than Iron Man, Star Trek, and even Indy IV.

[Spider-Fan]

I will second this. My dad took me to numerous rated R movies because I asked to go. No I wasn't 5 years old but a teenager, I see nothing wrong with it. It is more about knowing your child than just saying NO to everything. Glad my parents didn't lock me up for 18 years.

I am not afraid to admit I was 5 when I started going to R-rated films, but I was also taught things like what was going on in the film wasn't real and taught good values when I was young. If you're kid can handle it, I see nothing wrong with it. As long as you teach them good values, I see nothing wrong with tossing in an R-rated movie.

[SsM]

Yeah really.

Sad to see that someone thinks this was better than Iron Man, Star Trek, and even Indy IV.


He said it's on par with IM and ST, better than I4...


Wrong on both accounts though. ST is the best of the four, followed by IM then I4 then waaaay last T2

[Spider-Fan]

I grew up the same way watching a numer of R rated films but obviously like yours, my parents raised me right and taught me right from wrong.

I'm sorry but I don't like to do generalizations but from what I've seen of our current society and the numbers increasing on teen pregnancies(which has happened to a number of people I know personally in the past) I don't see there being nearly as many responsible and dedicated parents out there anymore.

Look at the society we live in, no one likes to take responsibility for their actions and everyone is sue happy, even when whatever happened to them turns out to be their fault(Dumb ***** who spilt coffee on herself from McDonalds was one of the starters of this ignorant and childish trend). It's not a great thing or attitude to be shown/reflected on our youth, I've already seen too many really young kids that are spoiled brats on a level I never knew as a kid in the 80's. It's all about the maturity of the parents truthfully but I agree with Danoyse to an extent because I just don't see it in our society.

Oh, bad parenting a plenty goes on, but it is not because of what your children watch. I have never had any violence issues, drug addictions (never even really tried them), don't drink much, and I don't smoke. But, I was allowed to basically watch anything I want. It's all about teaching your children right from wrong. Parents today are lazy, but don't blame films and such for your children getting pregnant or something. That's false blame. I was exposed to the same stuff, but I've not had any problems with these issues in my life.

[D4rkShaDoWz]

Just came back - one word: amazing.

The ending was a little bit rushed but other then that, good job Bay!

[Rock Sexton]

. Speaking of "leadership" I think megs "bowing" to "The Fallen" took away from his overall ruthlessness to me. Who here who knows the TF methodology knows of Megatron bowing to anyone!? Even if he knew they were stronger, the megs i'm aware of wouldn't call anyone "his lord"!

i really would like to see this franchise in the hands of another director and writing team..just to see what they can do..i think Bay did what Bay knows best....so this is what you got...but i would like to see another director who is not a "one trick pony"..



I felt the same way about the Megs thing. It's like he got neutered in this movie.

I was also pissed off royally about the total and utter lack of involvement of Jolt, Sideswipe, and the Constructicons. Sideswipe was bad farking azz and I couldn't wait to see more of him after he tore thru that Audi.

[Figs]

Oh, bad parenting a plenty goes on, but it is not because of what your children watch. I have never had any violence issues, drug addictions (never even really tried them), don't drink much, and I don't smoke. But, I was allowed to basically watch anything I want. It's all about teaching your children right from wrong. Parents today are lazy, but don't blame films and such for your children getting pregnant or something. That's false blame. I was exposed to the same stuff, but I've not had any problems with these issues in my life.

You misread my post a bit or I should have worded it in a different way.

I had said in my other post that yes, it's about your parents being in your life to teach you right from wrong, we both agree on that. As for the teen pregnancy, I didn't mean it was caused from watching R rated material or anything. What I was trying to say was that with how many teen pregnancies there are, a lot of those kids(both guys and girls involved with the pregnancy) are still very immature and want to enjoy their youth and party and whatnot. In my previous post I mentioned back when I was that age I knew a few of these types that were half assed parents. I was just saying how a good number of these young parents aren't responsible enough and some quite frankly just don't really give a F about their kids because they look at it as more of a burden. Those are the kids that aren't getting good parenting in their lives.

Overal, it's just disappointing to hear how much low level humour Bay stuffed in this film. I didn't mind some of it from the first movie but this sounds overkill.

[chaseter]

I am not afraid to admit I was 5 when I started going to R-rated films, but I was also taught things like what was going on in the film wasn't real and taught good values when I was young. If you're kid can handle it, I see nothing wrong with it. As long as you teach them good values, I see nothing wrong with tossing in an R-rated movie.
Well as a 5 year old, I don't think I would have wanted to see a crazy R movie as a kid, I was into TMNT and Power Ranger:woot: But, I was 5 so I don't remember. But, I did see numerous R flicks when I was 10 and up that I remember.

[Chris B]

I felt the same way about the Megs thing. It's like he got neutered in this movie.

I agree as well. Would've been a lot more in character for him to have betrayed the Fallen at the last moment.

[Spider-Fan]

You misread my post a bit or I should have worded it in a different way.

I had said in my other post that yes, it's about your parents being in your life to teach you right from wrong, we both agree on that. As for the teen pregnancy, I didn't mean it was caused from watching R rated material or anything. What I was trying to say was that with how many teen pregnancies there are, a lot of those kids(both guys and girls involved with the pregnancy) are still very immature and want to enjoy their youth and party and whatnot. In my previous post I mentioned back when I was that age I knew a few of these types that were half assed parents. I was just saying how a good number of these young parents aren't responsible enough and some quite frankly just don't really give a F about their kids because they look at it as more of a burden. Those are the kids that aren't getting good parenting in their lives.

Overal, it's just disappointing to hear how much low level humour Bay stuffed in this film. I didn't mind some of it from the first movie but this sounds overkill.

I was surprised by the college humor in the film a bit, but most of these jokes kids whom are younger won't get, so I don't see much of a problem.

Well as a 5 year old, I don't think I would have wanted to see a crazy R movie as a kid, I was into TMNT and Power Ranger:woot: But, I was 5 so I don't remember. But, I did see numerous R flicks when I was 10 and up that I remember.

I was into all that stuff too, lol. But while I was rocking the Power Rangers figs, Xenomorphs would pop out and be awesome :up:

[Rock Sexton]

I will second this. My dad took me to numerous rated R movies because I asked to go. No I wasn't 5 years old but a teenager, I see nothing wrong with it. It is more about knowing your child than just saying NO to everything. Glad my parents didn't lock me up for 18 years.


The point really is that society is trying to force feed this stuff down the throats of the young ones. There's a time and a place. Just look at junior high school girls walking around the mall. Heavy make up. Premature boobs being pushed up. They get this stuff from the media and it's not right.

[D4rkShaDoWz]

I would give it a 9/10 because of two major problems, IMO.

I'm assuming that you all saw the movie so beware of any intentional spoilers...

I think Optimus was waaaay too powerful in this movie. In the last one, he barely beats Megatron. But in this movie, he gained some sort of awesome fighting ability in which he can take on like 3 decepticons at one time.

Also, I think the Fallen was defeated too easily. Overall, I think the ending was too rushed. They should have cut out some of the other scenes so they could make the ending a little bit longer. To me, it felt a little anti-climatic.

[chaseter]

The point really is that society is trying to force feed this stuff down the throats of the young ones. There's a time and a place. Just look at junior high school girls walking around the mall. Heavy make up. Premature boobs being pushed up. They get this stuff from the media and it's not right.
And? Look at society 50 years ago, 100 years ago, etc...

Times change. What are you, an 80 yeard old man:huh: No one is forcing anything on anyone. You can lock yourself in a room if society is pushing an agenda on you.

[Spider-Fan]

The point really is that society is trying to force feed this stuff down the throats of the young ones. There's a time and a place. Just look at junior high school girls walking around the mall. Heavy make up. Premature boobs being pushed up. They get this stuff from the media and it's not right.

Times change. There was a time children were an investment, and families would load up on kids so they could go work at very young ages and bring in money for the family. Kids back in those days matured far faster than kids do now. Do kids now where risque clothing and such? Yes they do. But that is a reflection on society as a whole, not just the media. These are just more socially acceptable now.

[batboy99]

I must know one thing, how was Fox in this movie>

[Hazelnut624]

In Revenge of the fallen, you could actually tell Hugo Weaving was the voice of Megatron. he sounds so much more human like, or as if they toned down the effects on his voice. i
i liked that haha, hugo is the man.

I also liked how Megatron's tank.. can fly.

one of my favorite scenes was the scene on saturn or mars or w/e
it somehow gave reference to the GI universe more.

oh, and I HAS QUESTION...

the last we see of Megatron and starscream are them watching the fallen get defeated and starscream says something like" cowards don't always die" and they.. run away haha




BUT in the graphic novel the last page cleary has Megatron in the Nemisis awaking an entire Decepticon army. So i really dont get what happened to them????

[블라스]

Heh, then I'd rather be considered an old man, old fart or whatever and watch my movies, than to be called an idiot by Bay/Studios/whatever while they take my money.

[SsM]

I would give it a 9/10 because of two major problems, IMO.

I'm assuming that you all saw the movie so beware of any intentional spoilers...

I think Optimus was waaaay too powerful in this movie. In the last one, he barely beats Megatron. But in this movie, he gained some sort of awesome fighting ability in which he can take on like 3 decepticons at one time.

Also, I think the Fallen was defeated too easily. Overall, I think the ending was too rushed. They should have cut out some of the other scenes so they could make the ending a little bit longer. To me, it felt a little anti-climatic.\


Yeah, some revenge... He lands on earth and almost instantly gets destroyed.

And? Look at society 50 years ago, 100 years ago, etc...

Times change. What are you, an 80 yeard old man:huh: No one is forcing anything on anyone. You can lock yourself in a room if society is pushing an agenda on you.

I have to agree.. You seem to be taking the fact that you don't like this movie way too personally...

If you don't like it THAT MUCH. Don't watch it again.

[danoyse]

I somewhat take offense to this because I was the child taken to heavy R-rated films, and I turned out just fine and could handle these things. So, since I was exposed to R-rated films and such, like Alien, Robocop, Predator, Terminator, etc when I was young that I am the product of bad parenting? I can't disagree with you more.

Well obviously you could handle that kind of stuff at a young age. I saw the same kind of movies when I was a kid and turned out fine too. But those movies are nothing like the Saw movies. And my comment was directed at parents who take their under-10 kids to movies like that.

I saw The Exorcist when it was re-released a few years back and the people in front of us brought three 6-year-olds. Now I don't care if the kid doesn't get scared, it was just an utterly inappropriate movie for a 6-year-old, and we all thought the parents were insane for taking them. I would think the same thing if I saw a kid that young at a Saw movie.

[SsM]

Well obviously you could handle that kind of stuff at a young age. I saw the same kind of movies when I was a kid and turned out fine too. But those movies are nothing like the Saw movies. And my comment was directed at parents who take their under-10 kids to movies like that.

I saw The Exorcist when it was re-released a few years back and the people in front of us brought three 6-year-olds. Now I don't care if the kid doesn't get scared, it was just an utterly inappropriate movie for a 6-year-old, and we all thought the parents were insane for taking them. I would think the same thing if I saw a kid that young at a Saw movie.

The theaters in my state are REALLY cracking down on the underage viewings. They don't let ANYONE in after 11:00 pm under the age of 17 without their PARENT, not someone of age.

Also, no one under 17 is admitted into an R rated movie under any circumstance, parent or no parent, They have cops there the entire time they are open monitoring the entrance and I actually get carded when I enter. It's nice to know they are taking responsibility for this.

[Avengers-Report]

So dumb how Fallen could defeat everything, 6 primes and the entire earth/autobot forces by just moving his hand. But he couldn't land a punch on Optimus and his new jetpack. I was dissapointed with that.

[SpiderRock88]

I actually agree with Spiderrock 100%. Good review.

thanks man! glad you liked it!

[Spider-Fan]

Well obviously you could handle that kind of stuff at a young age. I saw the same kind of movies when I was a kid and turned out fine too. But those movies are nothing like the Saw movies. And my comment was directed at parents who take their under-10 kids to movies like that.

I saw The Exorcist when it was re-released a few years back and the people in front of us brought three 6-year-olds. Now I don't care if the kid doesn't get scared, it was just an utterly inappropriate movie for a 6-year-old, and we all thought the parents were insane for taking them. I would think the same thing if I saw a kid that young at a Saw movie.

Horror movies were never my favorite genre, unless they were like Alien and Sci-Fi related when I was younger. Though I did see many of them when I was around 7 cause my sister was a horror/vampire addict.

[Rock Sexton]

So dumb how Fallen could defeat everything, 6 primes and the entire earth/autobot forces by just moving his hand. But he couldn't land a punch on Optimus and his new jetpack. I was dissapointed with that.

Just another example of how incoherent the entire story was.

[SsM]

Wow, under the main page comments for the movie..

Someone says "my penis fell off during the movie because I was rubbing it so hard. IT WAS THAT GOOD"



:( Comments like that make me sad...

[Rock Sexton]

Times change. There was a time children were an investment, and families would load up on kids so they could go work at very young ages and bring in money for the family. Kids back in those days matured far faster than kids do now. Do kids now where risque clothing and such? Yes they do. But that is a reflection on society as a whole, not just the media. These are just more socially acceptable now.

Times change.......pffft........as if it makes it acceptable.

Times change because of the self-entitlement disease that continues to ravage society.

And I'm a liberal guy! Societally speaking of course. It's just gone way too far and it's extremely evident in film, tv, and the rest of the media........which BTW is BOMBARDING they eyes and ears of everyone 24/7.

I actually think it's continuing to get out of hand because the more moral parents have already become seniors. They can't even begin to understand how to impose some corrective influence in this generation. Same for new parents. They are liberal. Too many parameters in place to discipline their children so they have to resort to psychological warfare which the do not have the money nor the time for. In the end, everything is slipping thru the cracks under the guise that people are free to do what they want.

[Rock Sexton]

Wow, under the main page comments for the movie..

Someone says "my penis fell off during the movie because I was rubbing it so hard. IT WAS THAT GOOD"



:( Comments like that make me sad...

It's just a reflection of the kind of mind that would gravitate to this hot mess of a movie.

[powerbomb1411]

I'm really amazed here. I was talking to a friend a while back about everyone that just calls out "racist" in particular the famous blacks like Al Sharpton and Jessey Jackson who are as racist as they come.

But for everyone to look at the twins who simply talk with a bit of an accent and are complete idiots.

If the first thing you though when you saw that was "They're making fun of blacks", then the only racist around is you.

My first though was "Wow, someone is going to be pissed over nothing, these guys are complete idiots, and by the look of their faces, I'd say they're mildly retarded."

And for all these people that want to talk about how smart and high and mighty they are. Get over yourself. It's a movie, movies are now and always will be for entertainment. This movie was that, entertainment.

Exactly! No one's looking for an Atom Egoyan style plot here...it just needs to make sense on a very basic level. To expect less than simple coherence in a movie like this is to be bereft of standards.

That's it! It all makes sense now. I always though people saying things like this were really borderline retarded. But I get it now. It's not that your retarded or stupid. It's just that you are way to smart for your own good. You're looking for things that don't exist in the film and probably creating these plots in your head. It doesn't exist. If you want the movie, you'll find that there is a plots and story and they both make perfect sense. Don't look further then what the movies shows, that road is still under construction.

Yeah, but my 7- and 5-year-old nephews are not allowed to watch TV shows or movies with that kind of content. Their parents are very careful not to let them watch that kind of stuff. They haven't seen the first movie and I'm willing to bet they won't be seeing this one either.

It's not overprotective parenting, it's just common sense (and btw, any parent who takes their child to a Saw movie is just a bad parent). And it sounds like Michael Bay and especially Steven Spielberg should have taken that into consideration when they made a movie that's so obviously geared towards kids to maybe lighten up on the frat-boy innuendo.

My friends with kids aren't these hyper-sensitive parents who need every movie on a G-rated level for the sake of their children. They love these movies. It's just beyond annoying when movies are marketed toward their kids but then it winds up being filled with stuff that's just inappropriate for them to see.

I disagree with this in general. The language was more then what I expected. The but people that grew up with Transformers are adults now, it's nice to see films like this catering to adults more then others. TMNT could take a note from this.

And taking a kid to see Saw doesn't make them a bad parent at all. It's a choice. It's a matter of looking at the content and making an educated choice. If I had a child, and they could handle violence, swearing and sex then I'd consider allowing it. But if they can't, then I definitely wouldn't. It's making uneducated choices that make you a bad parent. I wouldn't have an issue with taking a 10 year old to see Watchmen. But I know what to expect also. Allowing kids to see films and tv that are not aimed at their age bracket does not make you a bad parent. It's happened for YEARS, it allowing the tv and movies to be the parents that makes you a bad parent.

The point really is that society is trying to force feed this stuff down the throats of the young ones. There's a time and a place. Just look at junior high school girls walking around the mall. Heavy make up. Premature boobs being pushed up. They get this stuff from the media and it's not right.

Yes, they do get that from the media. But the media is not the problem if the kids are doing that. It's the parents problem. They should be..parenting.

But before anyone jumps down my throat because they have a kid that does that. The parents can only do so much. They can only hope the best they can do is good enough. Some kids are exceptions, I hate to say it, but some just need the right wake up call and the other, well they're locked behind bars or are about to.

Back tot eh subject of the movie. It did enjoy it, but it is flawed. Some scenes, characters and sub plots I could do without and at times, too much action. But, now that I know what to expect, I'm sure the second and third viewings will be even better.

[MiniBond]

I'll make it brief: I prefered the first one !:cwink:

This flick has some exciting stuff: the Isabel Lucas character (so hot that you'd be ready to dump Mikaela for her but....:woot::hehe:), the little decepticon spying on Mikaela, very funny, the last sequence in egypt where Bay gives away pretty much everything he can give to the audience, the emotional moments between sam and his parents or with sam and Optimus....


But for the rest I've got a HUGE issue with the pacing of it: there are moments where absolutely nothing interesting happens. The humor is less stupid than in the first one but still contains some unnecessary comedy or characters (the autobots twins are just dull:o). Basically I also do not understand the criticisms on the fisrt one regarding the shaky cam....I liked it, and that comes from a man who doesn't like the Bourne for the exact same reason (it was shaky in TF 1 yeah but not too much IMO)....here, Bay's camera moves in a different way but therefore lacks the energy of the best action moments of the first ! Also, in this one, too much action kills the action: I can only immediately remember one or two action scenes !

As for the story, I think it's easier to understand for someone who knows the transformers world thks to another way than Bay's movies: you don"t always really get where the characters are and what they're looking for exactly. The actors are good though, even megan who's slightly better than before !


To sum up, I'm not too sure about a 3rd one.....

[SsM]

Why the **** do you guys insist on calling each other retarded?! Seriously, grow up.

[Blackman]

Megan Fox was one of the weak points in the film honestly

[Bunker]

Especially when it's proceeded with the classic "your" "you're" typo.

[Rock Sexton]

I'm really amazed here. I was talking to a friend a while back about everyone that just calls out "racist" in particular the famous blacks like Al Sharpton and Jessey Jackson who are as racist as they come.

But for everyone to look at the twins who simply talk with a bit of an accent and are complete idiots.

If the first thing you though when you saw that was "They're making fun of blacks", then the only racist around is you.

My first though was "Wow, someone is going to be pissed over nothing, these guys are complete idiots, and by the look of their faces, I'd say they're mildly retarded."

And for all these people that want to talk about how smart and high and mighty they are. Get over yourself. It's a movie, movies are now and always will be for entertainment. This movie was that, entertainment.



That's it! It all makes sense now. I always though people saying things like this were really borderline retarded. But I get it now. It's not that your retarded or stupid. It's just that you are way to smart for your own good. You're looking for things that don't exist in the film and probably creating these plots in your head. It doesn't exist. If you want the movie, you'll find that there is a plots and story and they both make perfect sense. Don't look further then what the movies shows, that road is still under construction.



I disagree with this in general. The language was more then what I expected. The but people that grew up with Transformers are adults now, it's nice to see films like this catering to adults more then others. TMNT could take a note from this.

And taking a kid to see Saw doesn't make them a bad parent at all. It's a choice. It's a matter of looking at the content and making an educated choice. If I had a child, and they could handle violence, swearing and sex then I'd consider allowing it. But if they can't, then I definitely wouldn't. It's making uneducated choices that make you a bad parent. I wouldn't have an issue with taking a 10 year old to see Watchmen. But I know what to expect also. Allowing kids to see films and tv that are not aimed at their age bracket does not make you a bad parent. It's happened for YEARS, it allowing the tv and movies to be the parents that makes you a bad parent.



Yes, they do get that from the media. But the media is not the problem if the kids are doing that. It's the parents problem. They should be..parenting.

But before anyone jumps down my throat because they have a kid that does that. The parents can only do so much. They can only hope the best they can do is good enough. Some kids are exceptions, I hate to say it, but some just need the right wake up call and the other, well they're locked behind bars or are about to.

Back tot eh subject of the movie. It did enjoy it, but it is flawed. Some scenes, characters and sub plots I could do without and at times, too much action. But, now that I know what to expect, I'm sure the second and third viewings will be even better.

This was the biggest piece of garbage I have ever read on this board and I'm not surprised one bit that you loved the movie as much as you did. It was a match made in heaven for a mind like yours.

[SsM]

Oh my God. This is ridiculous, we all have different opinions. Just deal with it.

I thought the movie was at best mediocre, a good half hour to forty five minutes could have been trimmed to make it better.

[Sarge 2.0]

That's it! It all makes sense now. I always though people saying things like this were really borderline retarded. But I get it now. It's not that your retarded or stupid. It's just that you are way to smart for your own good. You're looking for things that don't exist in the film and probably creating these plots in your head. It doesn't exist. If you want the movie, you'll find that there is a plots and story and they both make perfect sense. Don't look further then what the movies shows, that road is still under construction.
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Yeah, since when is asking for simple coherent storytelling "making up plots in my head" or "thinking too much"? :huh:

Reading the plots on Wikipedia or IMDB where they give a very clear outline on what we're SUPPOSED to glean from the film is very different than the incoherent, steaming mess that actually ended up being filmed. I still don't know exactly why Sams'parents ended up in Egypt for example. Does the movie care to explain? No, because a coherent explanation would take up the space reserved for getting stuff blowed up real good. See, coherent story telling in films goes beyond the script. Editing and the framing of shots are key. If the visuals are incoherent in a film, then the audience is requried to do some heavy lifting that they're not equiped for because the film was made ineptly. I also defy you to tell me that you could tell which transformer was what in any of the fight scenes. Their visual design basically makes that impossible, since most of them look incredibly similar.

Also, I don't think you should be throwing around words like "retarded" or "stupid" when you can't seem to figure out the difference between adverbs and prepositions or possesive pronouns and contractions. Just a thought.

[bdorpetzl]

Oh my God. This is ridiculous, we all have different opinions. Just deal with it.

+1. It is sad that people have resorted to name calling if someone disagrees with them.

[Rock Sexton]

+1. It is sad that people have resorted to name calling if someone disagrees with them.


You mean like your fellow Fan of the film running around directly calling us "retarded"?

[powerbomb1411]

This was the biggest piece of garbage I have ever read on this board and I'm not surprised one bit that you loved the movie as much as you did. It was a match made in heaven for a mind like yours.

There's that arrogance showing up in the forum again.

Hrm, that's odd. I did a ctrl f for "Love" in my post and couldn't find it anywhere. Maybe you should, oh I don't know, stop claiming others said things they didn't. Was that so simple to understand sparky?

Yeah, since when is asking for simple coherent storytelling "making up plots in my head" or "thinking too much"? :huh:

Reading the plots on Wikipedia or IMDB where they give a very clear outline on what we're SUPPOSED to glean from the film is very different than the incoherent, steaming mess that actually ended up being filmed. I still don't know exactly why Sams'parents ended up in Egypt for example. Does the movie care to explain? No, because a coherent explanation would take up the space reserved for getting stuff blowed up real good. See, coherent story telling in films goes beyond the script. Editing and the framing of shots are key. If the visuals are incoherent in a film, then the audience is requried to do some heavy lifting that they're not equiped for because the film was made ineptly. I also defy you to tell me that you could tell which transformer was what in any of the fight scenes. Their visual design basically makes that impossible, since most of them look incredibly similar.

Also, I don't think you should be throwing around words like "retarded" or "stupid" when you can't seem to figure out the difference between adverbs and prepositions or possesive pronouns and contractions. Just a thought.

Sam's parents ended up in Egypt courtesy of a Decepticon as bate for Sam. And it's pretty easy to figure out which Transformer is which. I just use my common sense. It tends to work. Whenever I hear people using that argument in particular, it just makes them look foolish.

[Blackman]

you cant talk about this movie its ridiculous.
You say its bad or mediocre ppl say that you dont get the movie
you say its good ppl call you retarded

[Rock Sexton]

There's that arrogance showing up in the forum again.

Hrm, that's odd. I did a ctrl f for "Love" in my post and couldn't find it anywhere. Maybe you should, oh I don't know, stop claiming others said things they didn't. Was that so simple to understand sparky?

Arrogance. LOL.

Arrogance is running around calling people retarded instead of providing a coherent argument as to why they are wrong. But again, since the movie was so wildly incoherent and you liked it - I shouldn't expect better from you.

Just admit it - you like to sit in a movie, suspend any and all thinking and just watch giant robots with giant testicles, some tits, and boat load of college humor ..........then run around trying to convince everyone that it's a masterpiece and enjoyable for everyone.

[SsM]

Guys, I would REALLY like to talk about what I liked and didn't like with you guys like adults. Can we do that? PLEASE? for my sanity?

[bdorpetzl]

You mean like your fellow Fan of the film running around directly calling us "retarded"?

Yes I do.

[TheCardPlayer]

Can i just ask a question?

The critics opinion on this is pretty consistent across the board - it's a bad, bad film. Right now it's on 22% on Rotten Tomatoes.

But on this thread, nearly half of the votes in the poll are calling this film awesome.

Awesome.

Now the question i wanna ask is - do you people who are calling this film awesome actually like films?

I don't wanna sound like a dick, but so many people are using the excuse 'It is what it is, explosions and robots, it's all we want from a film, we don't excpect character development or qualitly storytelling, we jus wanna see **** blow up'.

I don't get that opinion and would like someone to explain.

I watch films everyday, that you have never heard of, from directors whose names you wouldn't even be able to pronounce. I am a film student and I hope to be a writer/director, one day.

If you watch Transformers 2 with the same mindset you would watch Onibaba or Suspiria with...Of course it's gonna be garbage! I didn't go into this film expecting anything, other than cool action and robots and that's how I wanted it to be.

There's Terminator 2 on one hand of the spectrum. A truly great and memorable film with more subtext and heart than any movie by Michael Bay. Then there is ROTF, with it's juvenile humor and headache inducing quick cuts. But IN MY OPINION, I wouldn't want Transformers to be anything else.

You seem to have a problem with other people's opinions. People can like this film, all they want and still be intelligent persons. Different strokes for different folks. The only problem with ROTF are the clowns like you, who can't accept anything other than people who crucify the damn movie.

Well, I won't play that game. Everything is so black or white nowadays. Movies are either the greatest film ever made, or the worst movie of all time.

[Blackman]

Guys, I would REALLY like to talk about what I liked and didn't like with you guys like adults. Can we do that? PLEASE? for my sanity?
thank you these 2 guys are being ignorant. If you want to have a little net battle take it to PMs instead of murking a thread up with that

I enjoyed
Action was better filmed (easier to see what was happening)
Optimus Prime was bad ass
Shia Labeouf, Josh Duhamel, Tyrese, Kevin Dunn, Julia White, John Turturro were all good in there returning roles. Newcomer Ramon Rodriguez (Leo) was very funny and very good I hope he gets more work in the future, hes talented :up:

Cons
Complete shafting of the other autobots besides Prime. Ironhide (my favorite) and Ratchet were next to nothing. And Bumblebee just acted like a cheap transport the whole movie
Final fight was bogus
Megan Fox...cant act for s***
No character development (ya I know but hey even TF1 and Wild Hogs had some character development)
The Twins
No chemistry between LaBeouf and Fox
Cheap laughs throw everywhere
Too long at least 30 mins could have been shut down

[SsM]

thank you these 2 guys are being ignorant. If you want to have a little net battle take it to PMs instead of murking a thread up with that

I enjoyed
Action was better filmed (easier to see what was happening)
Optimus Prime was bad ass
Shia Labeouf, Josh Duhamel, Tyrese, Kevin Dunn, Julia White, John Turturro were all good in there returning roles. Newcomer Ramon Rodriguez (Leo) was very funny and very good I hope he gets more work in the future, hes talented :up:

Cons
Complete shafting of the other autobots besides Prime. Ironhide (my favorite) and Ratchet were next to nothing. And Bumblebee just acted like a cheap transport the whole movie
Final fight was bogus
Megan Fox...cant act for s***
No character development (ya I know but hey even TF1 and Wild Hogs had some character development)
The Twins
No chemistry between LaBeouf and Fox
Cheap laughs throw everywhere
Too long at least 30 mins could have been shut down


I especially enjoyed The Megatron and Starscream relationship, though not fully fleshed out it was a great step in the right direction from the two lines SC got in the first film.

I think a good 30-40 minutes could be cut to make it better, almost everything for the first hour or so was cringe worthy(for me).


Megan Fox was terrible, especially with the whole training the robot like a dog.... That scene was HORRIBLE.


Jetfire was under used. I loved him when I was young and was disappointed.

[Blackman]

What did you think of Megan Fox? I thought she was bad. Maybe it was the writing but she didnt bring anything except her rack to the film. Her acting was stale

[SsM]

What did you think of Megan Fox? I thought she was bad. Maybe it was the writing but she didnt bring anything except her rack to the film. Her acting was stale


I fear for Jonah Hex. That's what I thought of MF.

[TheCardPlayer]

thank you these 2 guys are being ignorant. If you want to have a little net battle take it to PMs instead of murking a thread up with that

I enjoyed
Action was better filmed (easier to see what was happening)
Optimus Prime was bad ass
Shia Labeouf, Josh Duhamel, Tyrese, Kevin Dunn, Julia White, John Turturro were all good in there returning roles. Newcomer Ramon Rodriguez (Leo) was very funny and very good I hope he gets more work in the future, hes talented :up:

Cons
Complete shafting of the other autobots besides Prime. Ironhide (my favorite) and Ratchet were next to nothing. And Bumblebee just acted like a cheap transport the whole movie
Final fight was bogus
Megan Fox...cant act for s***
No character development (ya I know but hey even TF1 and Wild Hogs had some character development)
The Twins
No chemistry between LaBeouf and Fox
Cheap laughs throw everywhere
Too long at least 30 mins could have been shut down

I would have taken at least an hour away. The film took so much time on so many little things that could have been simply ignored. I hate the way, both ROTF and the original overexplain things for the audience or simply lose times on mysteries whose answer, the audience knows.

And Leo was worse than Simmons, in the first movie. Cringe inducing performance and actor.

But I have nothing against Fox or her chemistry with Lebeouf. The humor was mostly hit or miss, but I did laugh alot at the earlier parts of the movie. Sure they dragged but the humor made it more than bearable.

And the final fight? Amazing setpiece. It was literally too good. It could have been much shorter in a sense. Bay wanted to knock us out but he put us into a coma instead. That's not good :word:

I am gonna go see the movie again, with friends tonight so we'll see how it fares on second viewing. I fear for the pacing which was already awful but I have no qualms about rewatching the film since I was greatly entertained the first time. I am still unsure whether I like this more than the original.

[Blackman]

I fear for Jonah Hex. That's what I thought of MF.
But of course shes gonna get a pass because shes hot.
By the time she reaches 30 she'll be done...

[Rock Sexton]

Guys, I would REALLY like to talk about what I liked and didn't like with you guys like adults. Can we do that? PLEASE? for my sanity?

To change the pace, I'll give you what I liked:

1. Prime's one bad SOB in this
2. Looking at the Pretender and Mikaela
3. The CGI

That's it. Honestly my list for things that went wrong with this movie would take too much time. I could easily post over 200 hundred things I noticed that pissed me off.

[SsM]

To change the pace, I'll give you what I liked:

1. Prime's one bad SOB in this
2. Looking at the Pretender and Mikaela
3. The CGI

That's it. Honestly my list for things that went wrong with this movie would take too much time. I could easily post over 200 hundred things I noticed that pissed me off.


I don't care if you list what you didn't like about it :up: I just want to talk about it without everyone getting in to a big huff about it.

[chaseter]

There was not one single good trailer with the movie. The Last Airbender, Aliens in the Attic, 2012, I Love you Beth Cooper, GI Joe, That fighting hamster movie...I was angry.

[Blackman]

2012 SFX look spectacular
but the story seems flat

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah, since when is asking for simple coherent storytelling "making up plots in my head" or "thinking too much"? :huh:

Reading the plots on Wikipedia or IMDB where they give a very clear outline on what we're SUPPOSED to glean from the film is very different than the incoherent, steaming mess that actually ended up being filmed. I still don't know exactly why Sams'parents ended up in Egypt for example. Does the movie care to explain? No, because a coherent explanation would take up the space reserved for getting stuff blowed up real good. See, coherent story telling in films goes beyond the script. Editing and the framing of shots are key. If the visuals are incoherent in a film, then the audience is requried to do some heavy lifting that they're not equiped for because the film was made ineptly. I also defy you to tell me that you could tell which transformer was what in any of the fight scenes. Their visual design basically makes that impossible, since most of them look incredibly similar.

Also, I don't think you should be throwing around words like "retarded" or "stupid" when you can't seem to figure out the difference between adverbs and prepositions or possesive pronouns and contractions. Just a thought.

:huh: Seriously? They were a last resort plan from Megatron were they could use as bait/a bargaining tool if need be. Dont know how you missed that one to be honest, but, we all miss things first time.

Arrogance. LOL.

Arrogance is running around calling people retarded instead of providing a coherent argument as to why they are wrong. But again, since the movie was so wildly incoherent and you liked it - I shouldn't expect better from you.

Just admit it - you like to sit in a movie, suspend any and all thinking and just watch giant robots with giant testicles, some tits, and boat load of college humor ..........then run around trying to convince everyone that it's a masterpiece and enjoyable for everyone.

Arrogance is also calling people who like a movie you dont names, it is deeply offensive and shows a level of immaturity if you cant accept other people's opinions. Honestly, just drop it, all of you, its ridiculous and offensive, not to mention petty.

You disliked the movie, I loved it, cant we just leave it at that and DISCUSS what we did/didnt like like adults?

Guys, I would REALLY like to talk about what I liked and didn't like with you guys like adults. Can we do that? PLEASE? for my sanity?

God, this thread has gone south.

Anyway, despite the movie being heavily flawed, I loved it, it entertained me from start to finish and I was never bored. People saying there was no development I have to disagree with, Sam and Mikaela developed quite a lot, and Leo and Simmons got some development also. But I thought the advancement of Sam and Mikaela's relationship was perfect. I just wish some of the bots had gotten a little more development.

[Rock Sexton]

Arrogance is also calling people who like a movie you dont names, it is deeply offensive and shows a level of immaturity if you cant accept other people's opinions. Honestly, just drop it, all of you, its ridiculous and offensive, not to mention petty.

You disliked the movie, I loved it, cant we just leave it at that and DISCUSS what we did/didnt like like adults?

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The arrogance and name-calling originated by the fan boys blasting critics of this film for being arrogant......."retarded"......... expecting too much etc etc...... even exaggerating arguments trying to convince us that we said we wanted a complex story line. Who the heck expected that? Honestly. Get real. It's a summer action movie. It's supposed to be light on story and big on rollercoaster. However, "light" meaning it doesn't run around trying to connect the entire world with a snag of string from a cotton t-shirt.

It reminded me of "The Family Guy" a show that I am in love with. But because it's the Family Guy I know what to expect. The plot was to cheesily, incoherently, and conveniently put together. For example, Sam's roommate knew where to find Agent Simmons? Agent Simmons could just call an aircraft carrier and order them around after throwing out the word Sector 7 - if you recall correctly that was the biggest government secret of them all. They were even disbanded. How the heck would some aircraft carrier guy know WTF he was talking about? I could go on and on with this. But there was just too much of this nonsense to accept. I can deal with it and look past it in ounces ..............not kilo-tons!

[Anubis Raptor]

1,000,000/10


:hehe:

[Rock Sexton]

1,000,000/10


:hehe:

Wow. :wow::facepalm

[Figs]

And Leo was worse than Simmons, in the first movie. Cringe inducing performance and actor.



I had a feeling that character would be horrible. :(

[Rock Sexton]

I had a feeling that character would be horrible. :(

I know it. He was too much too soon. Just over the top, over-acting all the way thru.

It reminded me of Stiffler in American Wedding. Don't get me wrong, the Stiff-meister was awesome in the first, but there's a degree to which you let him off the leash and the movie suffers for it.

[Blackman]

I liked Leo :(

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

The arrogance and name-calling originated by the fan boys blasting critics of this film for being arrogant......."retarded"......... expecting too much etc etc...... even exaggerating arguments trying to convince us that we said we wanted a complex story line. Who the heck expected that? Honestly. Get real. It's a summer action movie. It's supposed to be light on story and big on rollercoaster. However, "light" meaning it doesn't run around trying to connect the entire world with a snag of string from a cotton t-shirt.

Arrogance has been thrown around by both sides, not just one, so stop playing the "I'm so hard done by tag." And anyway, even if others name-call, doesnt mean you have to does it?

It reminded me of "The Family Guy" a show that I am in love with. But because it's the Family Guy I know what to expect. The plot was to cheesily, incoherently, and conveniently put together. For example, Sam's roommate knew where to find Agent Simmons?

Simmons ran the biggest rival web-page to Leo's and it said in the movie they have had past dealing between the 2 web-sites.


Agent Simmons could just call an aircraft carrier and order them around after throwing out the word Sector 7 - if you recall correctly that was the biggest government secret of them all. They were even disbanded. How the heck would some aircraft carrier guy know WTF he was talking about? I could go on and on with this. But there was just too much of this nonsense to accept. I can deal with it and look past it in ounces ..............not kilo-tons!

If you seriously missed these things, then you werent paying enough attention IMO. Everyone in the US army found out about Sector 7 in the first movie, not to mention Simmons new about a highly classified weapon they were firing and the world was at war with the decepticons.

[Sarge 2.0]

There was not one single good trailer with the movie. The Last Airbender, Aliens in the Attic, 2012, I Love you Beth Cooper, GI Joe, That fighting hamster movie...I was angry.The Last Airbender is probably going to be so bad it's hilarious. The other ones just look bad.

[Papa Burgundy]

on par with iron man and star trek. Paramount is healing the wounds of indy iv.

10/10

lol

[UltimateComix]

Man, I really don't know how this movie is getting so much hate. It's based on a line of plastic toys, do people realize that? No, it's not an incredibly deep experience, Leo was annoying, I thought the Twins were annoying, that douchey government guy was annoying, and the final battle was a letdown in someways. But everything else was just awesome. Fantastic special effects, more interesting story with some nice background info/lore, extremely awesome coreography for the fight scenes, some genuinely funny moments, etc. etc.

So much better than the first, and I absolutely loved the first one. This one had less boring moments though and was just more over the top in about every imaginable way.

If you watch Transformers for a deep and riveting emotional story, then that's your fault.

Now, don't get me wrong, some complaints are legitimate, with things that they maybe messed up or ruined from stuff already established in the Transformers universe. But overall it seemed like the movie did fine in that area.

I loved it and can't wait to see it again/buy the DVD.

[Spider-Fan]

There was not one single good trailer with the movie. The Last Airbender, Aliens in the Attic, 2012, I Love you Beth Cooper, GI Joe, That fighting hamster movie...I was angry.

I got the Potter trailer. At least that trailer was good :up:

[richardmvela]

I saw this today and have to say I am disappointed.

I will start with what was good. Seeing Optimus actually on par with megatron as far as skill. Had the other Cons' not been there it would have beena solid 50/50 between Megs and OP. Also the visuals were crisp.

Now for the negative. (just so that people know, I have never nit-picked movies but for some reason i did this one) There was no real character developement. we see Autobots and most are just there to be looked at. You never get to know Arcee, Sideswipe, Ratchet or Ironhide much. Instead you get a forced amount of the twins which come off as rather annoying. Not every character that has a "black" persona in a movie has to act like a rap stereotypical rap video. The "black" twin does, even more so than Jazz did in the first movie. Also I don't get whether Devestator was a single Con' with multiple vehicles or if the actual individual Cons made him up as you seem him in Devestator form but yet see the Constructicons fighting at the same time. Also yet again i feel like the Transformers were nothing more than background charcaters again. Jolt also confused me, because you don't see him much but somehow he is with the Bots' on the Island/Base toward the end and again in the end part of the desert battle. If the movie says Tranformers, I expect to see the Transformers themselves be a larger part of the story. Also the designs are less and less appealing to me this time around. Just my thoughts though. It almost seesm like they were trying to hard to be hip and cool but ultimately failed to really do anything meaningfull and find a direction to go with. Just my opinion though.

Overall somwhere between 6/10 - 7/10.

[Rock Sexton]

Simmons ran the biggest rival web-page to Leo's and it said in the movie they have had past dealing between the 2 web-sites.

He knows of the site. Not of the location of it's web author. I mean he didn't even know what owner looked like for sure until he called out the handle he uses online. Again cheap plot glue.


If you seriously missed these things, then you werent paying enough attention IMO. Everyone in the US army found out about Sector 7 in the first movie, not to mention Simmons new about a highly classified weapon they were firing and the world was at war with the decepticons.

If I missed something in the movie explaining that the rest of the US Army was debriefed about Sector 7 then I must've fallen asleep. Where was that explained? Again, why would a government debrief EVERYONE about the most secret organization in it's system? Why would Simmons be able to take all that crap home with him to store in the basement of his meat shop?

And Simmons was let go. How would he have been able to know about this giant anti-Transformer gun which surely was created AFTER they gained intelligence from the Autobots and from their first go'round with the Decepticons in the first movie?

Please.........just stop............

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Wow. :wow::facepalm

lol

These are the posts I am talking about, is there honestly a need for this? So what if people liked the movie and you didnt, get over it, accept it.

God I feel so sorry for the mods right now.

[The Guard]

Look at the society we live in, no one likes to take responsibility for their actions and everyone is sue happy, even when whatever happened to them turns out to be their fault(Dumb ***** who spilt coffee on herself from McDonalds was one of the starters of this ignorant and childish trend).

I agree that we live in a sue happy society, but some background on this particular incident. McDonalds had been told repeatedly by multiple safety agencies to keep their coffee at a lower temperature because the ridiculously hot coffee would severely injure anyone who spilled it on themselves, and could potentially injure or burn anyone who drank it. Supposedly McDonalds, ignored these directives, and as a company, kept the coffee at a higher temperature so that they could keep it "fresh" longer, and thus, waste less coffee, and use less coffee across the board. They had been warned many times, and when this incident happened, they were made an example of.

[Rock Sexton]

Man, I really don't know how this movie is getting so much hate. It's based on a line of plastic toys, do people realize that? No, it's not an incredibly deep experience, Leo was annoying, I thought the Twins were annoying, that douchey government guy was annoying, and the final battle was a letdown in someways. But everything else was just awesome. Fantastic special effects, more interesting story with some nice background info/lore, extremely awesome coreography for the fight scenes, some genuinely funny moments, etc. etc.

So much better than the first, and I absolutely loved the first one. This one had less boring moments though and was just more over the top in about every imaginable way.

If you watch Transformers for a deep and riveting emotional story, then that's your fault.

Now, don't get me wrong, some complaints are legitimate, with things that they maybe messed up or ruined from stuff already established in the Transformers universe. But overall it seemed like the movie did fine in that area.

I loved it and can't wait to see it again/buy the DVD.

No.

G1 was based on a toy line.

This movie was loosely based on the comics and cartoons. Bay openly stated he didn't want to do some "*****ing movie about toys" ........

[Conebone69]

Alright, so after all the mixed reviews this movie was given, it basically killed my anticipation. But as a transformers fan I still walked in with some hope that it would be a somewhat good movie. Lets just say that the movie wasnt exactly bad but the mixed reviews were necessary. Basically this movie is your typical jumbled up hollywood action movie. This movie is visually spectacular and has top-notch CGI but its not enough to make up for the weak, disorganized, stroy line and lack of character development. Not to mention all the obvious plot holes. But im not going to lie, the actions scenes were epic, and litterally had me on the edge of my seat.

There were also some small features in the movie that I nodded my head to. Such as the dumb, completely un-funny autobot twins. They or there "gangster" like personalities were not needed. I also hated the human decepticon! What was that all about? Seriosuly bay, now your turning hot chicks into transformers? Lastly, I didnt like the whole origin of the fallen and all that mubo-jumbo. That got slightly confusing after a while. But other then that all the actors did a pretty good job and there was a good balance between humor and seriousness. Overall, this movie could have been alot more organized and more focused on a decent story rather then massive explosions and crazy action scenes. But none the less, it was a fun action movie to kick off the summer

6.5/10

[Rock Sexton]

If you watch Transformers for a deep and riveting emotional story, then that's your fault.




There it is again fellas...........that same ol' stale argument. It's the go-to for all the fan boys. Even though none of us expected riveting plot.

[Rock Sexton]

These are the posts I am talking about, is there honestly a need for this? So what if people liked the movie and you didnt, get over it, accept it.

God I feel so sorry for the mods right now.

That's not the argument.

The people who liked it can't put together coherent reasons why or the won't just fess up and say "I like tits, robots, and sleezy, brainless humor" ..........just admit it and I'll respect you more.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

He knows of the site. Not of the location of it's web author. I mean he didn't even know what owner looked like for sure until he called out the handle he uses online. Again cheap plot glue.

He didnt know what he looked like because they have communicated over the web, it, if they share web-sites about the same things, it is obvious they have talked and traded information, I dont see whats so hard to understand about this.




If I missed something in the movie explaining that the rest of the US Army was debriefed about Sector 7 then I must've fallen asleep. Where was that explained? Again, why would a government debrief EVERYONE about the most secret organization in it's system? Why would Simmons be able to take all that crap home with him to store in the basement of his meat shop?

I didnt say the entire army was debriefed about Sector 7, but they would have been debriefed about the events of the first movie, which heavily involved Sector 7.

And Simmons was let go. How would he have been able to know about this giant anti-Transformer gun which surely was created AFTER they gained intelligence from the Autobots and from their first go'round with the Decepticons in the first movie?

Please.........just stop............

It wasnt an anti-TF gun, it was a rail gun, which is actually a real gun and is used by Ships to take out locations from far away.

You stop calling people out on liking the movie, there is simply no need for it.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

That's not the argument.

The people who liked it can't put together coherent reasons why or the won't just fess up and say "I like tits, robots, and sleezy, brainless humor" ..........just admit it and I'll respect you more.

I wont admit anything, and I couldnt give a shiny turd about your respect. For me, you havent given coherent reasons about why you disliked it, but am I calling you things? No, all this stuff being, sleazy and brainless isnt a fact, its an opinion, and not everyone in the world shares yours.

[Rock Sexton]

Alright, so after all the mixed reviews this movie was given, it basically killed my anticipation. But as a transformers fan I still walked in with some hope that it would be a somewhat good movie. Lets just say that the movie wasnt exactly bad but the mixed reviews were necessary. Basically this movie is your typical jumbled up hollywood action movie. This movie is visually spectacular and has top-notch CGI but its not enough to make up for the weak, disorganized, stroy line and lack of character development. Not to mention all the obvious plot holes. But im not going to lie, the actions scenes were epic, and litterally had me on the edge of my seat.

There were also some small features in the movie that I nodded my head to. Such as the dumb, completely un-funny autobot twins. They or there "gangster" like personalities were not needed. I also hated the human decepticon! What was that all about? Seriosuly bay, now your turning hot chicks into transformers? Lastly, I didnt like the whole origin of the fallen and all that mubo-jumbo. That got slightly confusing after a while. But other then that all the actors did a pretty good job and there was a good balance between humor and seriousness. Overall, this movie could have been alot more organized and more focused on a decent story rather then massive explosions and crazy action scenes. But none the less, it was a fun action movie to kick off the summer

6.5/10

I felt as if Bay was just trying to milk every red cent of the $200 million budget...........cohesion be d*mned.

I also think his decision for the Pretender was a shot at McG and the boys at Terminator Salvation for treading in the giant robot territory.

[Mr. Earle]

there is a thread for user reviews. You should have posted there. Imagine if we all took the liberty to post new threads for our opinions on the movie.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I felt as if Bay was just trying to milk every red cent of the $200 million budget...........cohesion be d*mned.

I also think his decision for the Pretender was a shot at McG and the boys at Terminator Salvation for treading in the giant robot territory.

The Pretenders are actually from the old G1 comics.

[Rock Sexton]

I wont admit anything, and I couldnt give a shiny turd about your respect. For me, you havent given coherent reasons about why you disliked it, but am I calling you things? No, all this stuff being, sleazy and brainless isnt a fact, its an opinion, and not everyone in the world shares yours.

I've routinely blast various elements of this film for why I dislike them. You simply haven't been around the conversation long enough nor do you ever do your due diligence and investigate what I said.

.........so c'mon, admit it already ..........tell us of your guilty pleasures.

[Blackman]

will you 2 please stop

One of you please be the bigger person because the thread isnt for you guys to have your own pissing match

[Rock Sexton]

The Pretenders are actually from the old G1 comics.

That's not what I meant...............

I'm saying he opted to use her as sort of an F-U to the TS guys.....regardless of the fact that it's been established in the TF mythos.

[chaseter]

This is apparently Rock's thread to comment on everybody's reviews and comments.

That last comment was btw, one of the most asanine things I have heard on here.

[richardmvela]

I think another problem is the over done crude humor felt way too forced. From the dogs humping to Wheelie humping and Devestator having balls. Just a little too much.

[Rock Sexton]

This is apparently Rock's thread to comment on everybody's reviews and comments.

That last comment was btw, one of the most asanine things I have heard on here.

Oh now we have a posting quota?

The part about the Pretenders is obviously speculation Einstein. I wouldn't put it past him because the man is clearly cocky in that fashion.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I've routinely blast various elements of this film for why I dislike them. You simply haven't been around the conversation long enough nor do you ever do your due diligence and investigate what I said.

.........so c'mon, admit it already ..........tell us of your guilty pleasures.

I dont have time to investigate what you said, I have a job and a life and only tend to come on here at about 15-20 mins at a time.

And admit what exactly? I'll happily admit I have a different opinion than yours, can you not just accept that like an adult?

That's not what I meant...............

I'm saying he opted to use her as sort of an F-U to the TS guys.....regardless of the fact that it's been established in the TF mythos.

Seeing as this was never stated, and it was actually McG who started the whole TF vs TS debate, i'm not inclined to believe you. Not to mention it was actually in Orci and Kurtzman's script.

[chaseter]

The part about the Pretenders is obviously speculation Einstein. I wouldn't put it past him because the man is clearly cocky in that fashion.
I speculate that you are wrong. I also speculate that you are just grasping at straws now....well nope, I know that you are just grasping at straws now.

[Rock Sexton]

I dont have time to investigate what you said, I have a job and a life and only tend to come on here at about 15-20 mins at a time.

How convenient. You've been around here of the past 1 hour bantering and yet you can't take about 10 minutes to catch up on this thread? Give me a break and please retire the convenient cop outs.

And admit what exactly? I'll happily admit I have a different opinion than yours, can you not just accept that like an adult?

Stop hiding behind that weak, generic argument. Just tell us that you like tits, robots, and excessive adult humor. That's all you gotta do.

Seeing as this was never stated, and it was actually McG who started the whole TF vs TS debate, i'm not inclined to believe you. Not to mention it was actually in Orci and Kurtzman's script.

It was a speculative comment. From things I've read those guys thought it was amusing that TS had transformer-like robots and the fans that it was water-treading as well.

[Rock Sexton]

I speculate that you are wrong. I also speculate that you are just grasping at straws now....well nope, I know that you are just grasping at straws now.

..........but it's my opinion .....sniffle sniffle .............:woot:

[chaseter]

Stop hiding behind that weak, generic argument. Just tell us that you like tits, robots, and excessive adult humor. That's all you gotta do.

I don't speak for him but who doesn't:huh: Is there something wrong with tits, robots, and adult humor:huh: Sign me up for that ****:up:

[chaseter]

..........but it's my opinion .....sniffle sniffle .............:woot:
And, everyone else has opinions. They don't need you telling them why you think they are wrong.:cwink:

[dpbrave84]

ok just watched it and i enjoyed the hell out of it, ppl need to just calm down....the movie is what it is and is not meant to be more than just an entertaining film.

ppl's gripes about the twins is a bit exaggerated, i mean they had maybe less than 10 minutes of dialogue in a 2 1/2 hour movie.

the devastator balls thing, come on i was expecting them to keep showing them...it was like a 5 second scene in the movie.

the humor was at times a little over the top but it was meant to be that way, and from what i could tell in a sold out theater most everyone laughed at the jokes.

the battle sequence in the forest alone was better than any fight the first movie had.

i dont think this movie was perfect and i wish they did have more characters involved in either side of the transformers, but i was happy with what i got.

as far as i see it transformers 2 was a very entertaining movie. dont think the movie is near as bad as RT and some of the ppl on this board make it out to be...BUT THIS IS MY OPINION AND EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION...

[Rock Sexton]

Rock Sexton, did u even see the movie? It seems ur missing out on a lot of stuff that was explained, and thus making yourself look stupid when u say they're plot holes.

I saw the movie. Was completely zoned in because I was so psyched.

Still waiting for that explanation of the Destructicons being in two places at one time.

[chaseter]

Rock Sexton, did u even see the movie? It seems ur missing out on a lot of stuff that was explained, and thus making yourself look stupid when u say they're plot holes.
It was hilarious yesterday watching some of the haters blast this movie yet they hadn't even seen it yet. They were merely going off of what others have said.:woot:

[Rock Sexton]

And, everyone else has opinions. They don't need you telling them why you think they are wrong.:cwink:

Having an opinion is not wrong. Providing weak reasons for why we're all being overly critical - WRONG.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

How convenient. You've been around here of the past 1 hour bantering and yet you can't take about 10 minutes to catch up on this thread? Give me a break and please retire the convenient cop outs.

Are you serious? I am other websites at the moment as well as this one and am reading them too.



Stop hiding behind that weak, generic argument. Just tell us that you like tits, robots, and excessive adult humor. That's all you gotta do.

This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen, are you serious? Its not a weak, generic argument at all, the only fact about opinions is everyone has one, realise that please. I honestly cannot believe I have just read that comment because i liked the movie and you didnt. See the movie in my sig? Was that, tits, ass, sleazy humour, etc, no. I cannot believe I have just read that comment, I really cant.

And i would like to say also, if you do carry with these comments, the mods will ban you, so please, for your own sake, can you not it off and act like an adult?



It was a speculative comment. From things I've read those guys thought it was amusing that TS had transformer-like robots and the fans that it was water-treading as well.

TO be honest this was more of a fan the whole time, I doubt Bay really cared to be honest.

[Rock Sexton]

It was hilarious yesterday watching some of the haters blast this movie yet they hadn't even seen it yet. They were merely going off of what others have said.:woot:

Ahhhhhhhh that ol' contingency of haters..........as legendary as the Boogey man.........WMD's..........and prosperity thru deficit spending.

[chaseter]

I saw the movie. Was completely zoned in because I was so psyched.

Still waiting for that explanation of the Destructicons being in two places at one time.
Constucticons:cwink:

It is a great question and it wasn't explained to us with dialogue. This is where you can speculate. Did some of the protoforms scan vehicles in the area when they were coming in? Did Michael Bay edit the movie wrong? Also, one of the Constructicons was killed at the bottom of the ocean for parts but again later showed back up to form into Devastator so I assume a protoform took his place.

[chaseter]

Having an opinion is not wrong. Providing weak reasons for why we're all being overly critical - WRONG.
An opinion is an opinion whether you think the reasons behind it are strong or weak as that is your opinion.

[Rock Sexton]

Are you serious? I am other websites at the moment as well as this one and am reading them too.

Rolling out yet another excuse..........

This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen, are you serious? Its not a weak, generic argument at all, the only fact about opinions is everyone has one, realise that please. I honestly cannot believe I have just read that comment because i liked the movie and you didnt.

And i would like to say also, if you do carry with these comments, the mods will ban you, so please, for your own sake, can you not it off and act like an adult?

What's wrong with the comment? I'm asking you directly. Are you utterly entertained by shallow story-lines backed up with lots of hot chicks, boobs, robots, and cheesy adult humor? I don't know why you're having such a hard time admitting to it. You and I both know that this movie is chalk-full of that stuff........

TO be honest this was more of a fan the whole time, I doubt Bay really cared to be honest.

You doubt......... I wouldn't put it past him......... all conjecture one in the same........

[Rock Sexton]

An opinion is an opinion whether you think the reasons behind it are strong or weak as that is your opinion.

Could you get anymore general. I am not attacking those who like the movie. I am defending those of us who weren't amused with it from people who so conveniently label us as expecting too much.

[chaseter]

Ahhhhhhhh that ol' contingency of haters..........as legendary as the Boogey man.........WMD's..........and prosperity thru deficit spending.
Does that predate the Holier than thou argument?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Rolling out yet another excuse..........

Ha ha, honestly, you think i'm going to lose sleep over this or something.



What's wrong with the comment? I'm asking you directly. Are you utterly entertained by shallow story-lines backed up with lots of hot chicks, boobs, robots, and cheesy adult humor? I don't know why you're having such a hard time admitting to it. You and I both know that this movie is chalk-full of that stuff........

You and I obviously dont know, I dont see how it was full of tits when there were only 2 attractive female's with speaking parts in the movie, and one didnt last the first hour.

Again you are stating things that are facts when they are your opinion, how cant see this I dont know. I'm having a hard time admitting to it because IN MY OPINION the movie wasnt full of this stuff.



You doubt......... I wouldn't put it past him......... all conjecture one in the same........

Fair enough.

Beddyboes for me anyway.

[Rock Sexton]

Does that predate the Holier than thou argument?

No, but it pre-dates the "we all have opinions" argument........

[chaseter]

Could you get anymore general. I am not attacking those who like the movie. I am defending those of us who weren't amused with it from people who so conveniently label us as expecting too much.
Then be the bigger person and just step away as someone on the last page said.:cwink:

I am stepping away right now, I suggest you follow. You can buy me a beer...if you are old enough. Then we can oogle at DBella and the hotties in the photo album thread. Then we can make fun of Morg and JAL. Good times.

[Rock Sexton]

Ha ha, honestly, you think i'm going to lose sleep over this or something.

Changing topic again. :whatever:

You and I obviously dont know, I dont see how it was full of tits when there were only 2 attractive female's with speaking parts in the movie, and one didnt last the first hour.

Oh c'mon. Mikaela's boobs were bouncing all over the place. You had Mikaela landing on Leo's crotch as if to insinuate oral sex. You had the Pretender. You had the college campus where every chick is a ****ty looking hollywood wannabe. You had the professor pandering to hot chicks all over his class with his sexual metaphors. The list goes on and on. But I notice you focused only on the boobs part. There were other elements I listed. Care to comment?

Again you are stating things that are facts when they are your opinion, how cant see this I dont know. I'm having a hard time admitting to it because IN MY OPINION the movie wasnt full of this stuff.


The movie has tons of cheap, vulgar laughs, hot chicks, extremely loose plot, and robots. This is FACT. And many of you have both directly and indirectly admitted to us by asking us not to take the movie so seriously.

[chaseter]

Sorry but all movies need more boobs and hot chicks:o

[Nathan]

I don't know whether to vote good or awesome. I enjoyed it, but the Movie could've been better. The niveau of the movie definitely took a huge hit.

The twins needed to go, no leg humping Transformer, get rid of the fart jokes, why did we need to see Turturro's ass, two... giant... balls... I often felt like this Movie was aimed at a Scary Movie crowd.

I really enjoyed the beginning of the Movie and thought everything up to the fight in the woods was rock solid. But then we got the total human focus again and we barely got to see anything of Megatron or the other Transformers. But we got the Twins... I was so happy inside when I saw Devastator swallow one of them up. But of course he had to survive.

The final fight was sadly totally anti-climatic. You've got the doomsday machine that gets destroyed with one hit when it was barely even charged and the Fallen was Prime's little *****. That guy is teleporting all over the place and can levitate all kinds of ****, but Prime quickly tears him a new one with not much trouble. It simply wasn't dramatic enough.

Final verdict, I enjoyed the Movie. But I enjoyed the first one more.

[CEREBRAL....]

I've already posted my review, but i'll say it again..i would like to see what another director and team of writers could do with this franchise...to me, way too many mistakes for a big time hollywood director to be making...i think overall it was cool/o.k...but nothing to get excited about....for many reasons already said...

[Mikelus]

The movie has tons of cheap, vulgar laughs, hot chicks, extremely loose plot, and robots. This is FACT.

So?

TF1 was vulgar too (in my opinion), I didn't like it, is just more of the same, but to each its own, it seems you have too much free time to waste on silly forum debates.

[Superhero 101]

I am Going tonight is there a scene after the credits?

[Rock Sexton]

So?

TF1 was vulgar too (in my opinion), I didn't like it, is just more of the same, but to each its own, it seems you have too much free time to waste on silly forum debates.

Thanks, but frankly I don't care Frenchy..........

[Rock Sexton]

I am Going tonight is there a scene after the credits?

Ya. It's awesome. It shows The Fallen scratching his genitals and Megatron lighting his farts on fire.

[Spider-Fan]

Wow...things got interesting in here.

Honestly guys, it's an opinion of a movie. Nothing to get up in arms over.

[Jake Cassidy]

There was not one single good trailer with the movie. The Last Airbender, Aliens in the Attic, 2012, I Love you Beth Cooper, GI Joe, That fighting hamster movie...I was angry.

I got the Potter trailer. At least that trailer was good :up:

I got the 'Public Enemies' trailer. I win. :woot:

[CelticPredator]

I loved it. Every second of it. The humor was awesome. It's PG-13. So....you parents should read the ratings better.

Anyway....I do understand the hate. It felt a tad too long, but I enjoyed the human stuff, there was a lot of heart, and it was just plain ol' 4th of July fun.

I hope people can join in the convos without hate or anger....but I digress.

[danoyse]

Sorry but all movies need more boobs and hot chicks:o

Says you. :oldrazz:

[danoyse]

How convenient. You've been around here of the past 1 hour bantering and yet you can't take about 10 minutes to catch up on this thread? Give me a break and please retire the convenient cop outs.



Stop hiding behind that weak, generic argument. Just tell us that you like tits, robots, and excessive adult humor. That's all you gotta do.



It was a speculative comment. From things I've read those guys thought it was amusing that TS had transformer-like robots and the fans that it was water-treading as well.


OK, so now you're upset because posters have better things to do than read your insulting rants at anyone thinks who differently than you?

I think you need a time-out, Rock. You've gotten enough warnings.

[Drz]

I liked the movie alot, i'd give it personally a 7.5 or 8.0 out of 10 but the reason it doesn't deserve a 8.5 or 9.0 is because the last hour of the movie took like 30 mins to build up for the final battle for Egypt, tho it did end AWESOMELY i dunno, i just felt it could have been a tad bit shorter but overally i was really pleased with this movie it was definatly an ugprade to the 1st and herp and gerb were noway racists at all. Jazz was ten times more black guy than those two ever were.

[CelticPredator]

Oh and Dano, I think you'll like it. Its fast and fun, and IMO a lot more fun then Wolverine (speaking action here....which I dug some of it in Wolvie anyway...). So...check it out if you wanna have a good time.

[Jake Cassidy]

Oh man. The chicks in that college. That's a college I want to go to.

(If I wasn't too old)

[Nathan]

Oh and Dano, I think you'll like it. Its fast and fun, and IMO a lot more fun then Wolverine (speaking action here....which I dug some of it in Wolvie anyway...). So...check it out if you wanna have a good time.

Oh, it's fun and the action is great. But Danoyse, also prepare for a little headache. Because there are quite a few facepalm moments.

[Peter_Porker]

Just got home from seeing it and I thought it was a great movie. Prob. a 7.5 or 8 in my book.

The only thing that bothered me is the lack of screentime for some of the Autobots, and there are times when people are talking and they really don't need to be.

Taking my daughter next week, can't wait.

[bestever23]

please just save your money and wait for the dvd

[CBGB]

I'm seeing this tonight. Pretty excited.

[Peter_Porker]

please just save your money and wait for the dvd

May we ask your reasoning behind your opinion? Just curious, not questioning it.

[danoyse]

Oh and Dano, I think you'll like it. Its fast and fun, and IMO a lot more fun then Wolverine (speaking action here....which I dug some of it in Wolvie anyway...). So...check it out if you wanna have a good time.

Oh, I'm definitely seeing it this weekend. Looking forward to it. :up:

[Dark Knight]

So far critics reviews seem to suggest that the film is NOT better than the 1st (which isn't saying much about the 1st) and that ROTF is a disappointment....

[Jake Cassidy]

I think it's better to judge a movie for yourself than going on what critics say. :yay:

[Blackman]

I agree with Jake Cassidy

[Peter_Porker]

I agree with Jake Cassidy

ditto....YAY 700 posts !!!!!

[Superhero 101]

So is there a Scene After the Credits?

[chaseter]

No, two during credit scenes.

[The Guard]

I'm glad the movie opened with another voiceover, and the shots of Earth made for a nice juxtaposition with the space sequence in TRANSFORMERS. Little weirded out by the ancient men, but The Fallen showing made it worth it. It was interesting to hear the voiceover continue into the first scene. Yes, it was exposition, but it was welcome, and it's never a bad thing to have Peter Cullen tell you what's going on.

The first sequence in Shanghai was fantastic. Good building of tension, great atmosphere, and the reveal of the Autobots ratchets up the excitement. And Optimus Prime transforming in midair and skydiving onto Demolisher? Classic. And very, very badass. Even "Pull over" worked. The introduction of Sideswipe was great, as were Arcee and her sisters. Some great effects work and action there.

I rather liked the scene of Prime speaking with Galloway. He just has a presence about him that works, and this was a welcome conflict to introduce to the world of the Transformers. And frankly, I thought the actor playing Galloway did one of the best "80's villain monologues" I've seen. He made it believeable, with just enough "*******". This sequence did feel like there was a lot of exposition, but that's probably because of Soundwave's role. We really only learned a few key pieces of information. Soundwave, by the way...not what I'm used to, but cool. As. Hell. Great look, great voice, and a really intense presence floating there in space. Love that Ravage comes out of his chest. Ravage was just all kinds of cool, and I was pleasantly surprised to see what I assume was a version of the probelike Laserbeak.

Megatron's resurrection was a bit rushed, but cool nontheless.

Megatron's reunion with Starscream and him pointing out that Starscream left him for dead...nice. There's a bit of a Vader/Emperor vibe to Megatron kneeling before his master, The Fallen, but frankly, the idea of someone Megatron wants to serve was fairly compelling. Baby Decepticons? Whatever. I got the idea...the Decepticons needed more Energon to fuel their armies. I'm glad this movie dealt with Energon a little more.

I thought returning to the Witwicky household would be annoying, but his parents were actually pretty funny. Shia did a good job, balancing his bumbling, unsure side with his attempts at confidence. The bit with The Sliver was good, and served as a nice reintroduction for Bumblebee. I don't mind Sam being unable to say he loves Mikaela, but I do wish there'd been a more compelling reason given for it. Perhaps he thinks he's not good enough for her, etc.

Wheelie and his pathetic little attempts to steal The Sliver were pretty amusing.

Once Sam arrives at college, things got a little weird. It was fairly obvious what the hot girl was from the word go, but the scenes are amusing nonetheless, as Shia played off her and his situation well. Sam's roommate Leo is annoying, but it's not a horrible annoying, and he's a fairly logical choice for a Transformer's-centric roommate. Much better than say, Anthony Anderson. Loved seeing Sam lose it with the visions...some of the best Shia moments of the movie. Rainn Wilson is...there. Hilarious sequence in the car with Bumblee trying to remind Sam of Mikaela. Even funnier sequence in Sam's dorm when he's attacked by the Pretender. Most of the college scenes were pretty good, and in particular, I thought the "I'm not talking to you" bit was humorous.

When the three are kidnapped, it's a bit hard to swallow Sam, Mikaela and Leo surviving the fall, but I suppose it's within the realm of possibility. Love the scene where Megatron and The Doctor interrogate Sam. Good tension, balanced well with his attempts to make light of things. And the Autobots make one hell of an entrance, leading to a great action sequence.

The forest fight sequence is hands down one of the coolest things I've ever seen, largely in part due to Prime ripping off Starscream's arm and beating Megatron with it. It's just a fantast, fantastic sequence. It was interesting to see Megatron appealing to a fellow Transformer about the survival of their species, and Prime's "You'll never stop at one" was classic. Optimus' death is somewhat unexpected if you haven't been spoiled, and it works, both as an act of galvanizing sacrifice for Sam and to show the stakes the world faces. The moment where he has fallen and the autobots arrive with Bumblee, too late, and usher Sam away as they charge back into battle, was pretty powerful stuff.

Megatron kicking the crap out of Starscream is appreciated. The Decepticon invasion is just wonderful. Massive destruction and a real sense of the menace posed by the invaders, and those few shots of Decepticons spreading out through the cities...nice.

NEST gets predictably shut down, but it's a logical move. The sight of Prime's body crashing to the tarmac was jarring, as are the autobot reactions to the soldiers who come to shut them down.

The Robowarrior detour is annoying at first, but Agent Simmons actually ends up being a somewhat welcome addition to the film for the most part. The idea of aliens on Earth in ancient times is somewhat generic, but it's cool to see it tied to the Transformers. And it's nice to see the idea of a battle over resources that affects humans show up in a sense.

Jetfire is sort of hit or miss. He has some really nice moments, and some that are just silly. Ultimately, I'm glad he's in the movie. The Matrix of Leadership makes its first appearance in the franchise, and at least sort of makes sense.

Could have done without the checkpoint sequence. And then, for a while it becomes Indiana Jones meets The Transformers, which doesn't entirely suck. Sam's belief that the Matrix can raise Prime is a nice moment as well.

I rather enjoyed the mutiny of sorts when Galloway pulls the cord while he's in the airplane.

The final act of this movie is just insane.

The battle sequences are stupendous. Devastator is fantastic, acting on a massive destruction scale. Sam's parents are deployed as hostages, with Bumblee getting to save the day in grand fashion (and pulling out Ravage's spine? Yes!), and even The Twins get a moment to shine. I'm trying to figure out if the rail gun is a piece of Transformers tech, something reverse engineered from Megatron, or just a human advancement Simmons knew about.

There are a few great moments toward the end of the "get to Prime" portion of the movie where Ironhide, who's got a big hole blown in his midsection, gets up and charges along with the humans, shielding them, etc. The vision Sam has of the Primes after being injured by Megatron is weird, to be sure, but not entirely out of place in such a movie.

The Matrix transforming and Sam using it on Prime is cool, but the moment is sort of neutered when The Fallen swipes it. The Fallen's magnetic power is pretty cool. Jetfire fighting to the last (cameo by Skorponok!) and giving up his parts for Prime was a good angle, and Ultra Prime is just sweet. A lot has been made of Prime beating The Fallen, about how fast it is, but the fight does last a few minutes, it seems, and let's face it, it's Prime on crack. He's back, better than ever, and he's pissed off.

The ending is admittedly a bit rushed, and lacks much in the way of resolution, but I do like the basic idea behind it, and Prime's speech to end the movie.

7/10.

A worthy, if imperfect and flawed sequel. Much more faithful and relevant to Transformers lore than the first movie, with a lot more of the Transformers stuff people wanted to see, and some nice twists on classic themes and characters. Effects and action are top notch, the score is solid, most of the acting is good, the movie is generally either exciting, tense, or funny. For what it is, the movie is usually fairly well paced, and the pointless parts, the immature humor, and yes, The Twins, simply aren't enough to drag down an immensely entertaining movie. There are certainly some missteps with dialogue, many of which seem to have tried to capture the spirit of Transformers, and some that are just lazy, and like the first movie, ROTF tends to be a bit inconsistent in tone, but for the most part, this movie maintains enough of the tone of the original while creating something new and evolving the franchise to a point where a third Transformers movie can simply be ridiculously huge. Some disappointment, to be sure, but overall, this is a pretty satisfying, and very fun, experience.

[Dark Knight]

I think it's better to judge a movie for yourself than going on what critics say. :yay:



Of course....and I will....:word:

[Jake Cassidy]

^ I know will. :yay:

It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone specifically. :woot:

[Theweepeople]

The worst part is, this movie traffics in the kind of mean spirited vulgarity that it decidedly NOT for kids. And yet 75% of the audience is surely going to be between 6 and 11.

I haven't seen the film yet, but based on what I've heard this is one of the valid criticisms the Transformers 2 haters have about this film. I'm offended that Bay made such a vulgar movie that was always intended to be marketed towards kids.

Oh, and just for the record. I am African-American myself and the Twins aren't even racist. Seriously the whole "black stereotype" bs is just people whining over politically correctness.

I didn't watch them thinking "Oh my god, that's so racist. Me and my date are leaving!"

I thought "Holy hell, these robots are idiots. But they're fun."

I had no idea what your race was. I guess you and I have at least three things in common. The other two being our contempt for X3 and 20th century Fox.

Honestly, are you real?

If you are, i think i'm falling in love with you. Your obviously the most beatiful creature that ever exsisted, cos if someone as dumb as you wasn't, you would've been put down by now.

This will go down in history as one of the most amusing responses I've heard to one of the most idiotic comments ever made in these forums.


Lazy anyway you look at it................

I mentioned this elsewhere on the board, but what about when Jetfire punches thru the wall in the Smithsonian in Washington DC, walks thru, and ends up in a jet graveyard in the middle of a the Tucson desert. WTF man!?!?!?

I've been to the air and space museum in DC multiple times so I can confirm that there's no jet graveyard next to it. Maybe Jetfire teleports the museum at the same time he punches through the wall and teleports it back once he walks out.

You mean her tail. Strangely that and the tongue actually turned me on. :woot:

You might have a morphing fetish. I doubt any fetish that's impossible to satisfy in the real world is a healthy one.

[SuperJediHero]

OMG SO AWESOME!!! SENSOR OVERLOAD!!!

Con: Not enough Arcee, or characterization/proper introduction to each of the transformers. That's really about it. They just came on and BLOW YOU AWAY, But you don't even know WHO they are unless you are already a fan!

Pro: Everything ELSE!!! Nuff said.

A loads of Special Effects, Action scenes are very Damn JAW-DROPPING!!! HOLY **** type of never-before-seen scenes! The couple main babes that got to Kiss Shia/Sam are Damn FINE as hell!!! :drool:

I can see how critics disliked this, but I don't think any fans of the 1st one should you know.

It's basically the First movie X 10!!!

[Savage]

People who call this movie awesome are just ignorant and retarded. Irony. just some awesome action scenes to look at.

Well no duuuuuh.

[SuperJediHero]

Honestly, are you real?

If you are, i think i'm falling in love with you. Your obviously the most beatiful creature that ever exsisted, cos if someone as dumb as you wasn't, you would've been put down by now.

:whatever:

This movie is so AWESOME.

I am really wonder WTF is wrong with your HIGHER THAN THOU opinion! :whatever:

I am Dumb because I LOVED the movie? Oh so immature this kind of USELESS opinion man!

:|


GET OFF YOUR HIGH DAMN HORSE,FLAMER!!!

[The Guard]

I've been to the air and space museum in DC multiple times so I can confirm that there's no jet graveyard next to it.

Have you been to the air and space museum in the universe where giant alien robots exist? :).

There isn't such a thing at the Air and Space Museum in real life. There is, however, at Kennedy Space Center, something similar with rockets and aircraft and such. Perhaps they were combining the concepts?

[SuperJediHero]

Wow, that argument again. For the last time, people...


The quality and intent of the 1980s cartoon has NOTHING to do with the quality and intent of these big-screen movies

These movies are NOT a 1980s TV series aimed at children, so constantly trying to excuse poor filmmaking by comparing it with the G1 cartoon is just a pointless straw-man argument.

TF:ROTF is a PG-13 film with plenty of "adult" humor (if not "mature" humor), violence, and many changes from the themes and aesthetics of the old cartoon. It just happens to be a poorly-put together film when judged on its own merits.


Aimed at Adults LOL HA that's where you are WRONG, Buddy.

It's CLEARLY Aimed at Teenagers!!!

[Papa Burgundy]

Man, I really don't know how this movie is getting so much hate. It's based on a line of plastic toys, do people realize that? No, it's not an incredibly deep experience, Leo was annoying, I thought the Twins were annoying, that douchey government guy was annoying, and the final battle was a letdown in someways. But everything else was just awesome. Fantastic special effects, more interesting story with some nice background info/lore, extremely awesome coreography for the fight scenes, some genuinely funny moments, etc. etc.

So much better than the first, and I absolutely loved the first one. This one had less boring moments though and was just more over the top in about every imaginable way.

If you watch Transformers for a deep and riveting emotional story, then that's your fault.

Now, don't get me wrong, some complaints are legitimate, with things that they maybe messed up or ruined from stuff already established in the Transformers universe. But overall it seemed like the movie did fine in that area.

I loved it and can't wait to see it again/buy the DVD.

yea it may have been a toy line, but somewhere along the transition to the big screen it became about d**k jokes, robots with balls, stereotypes, dogs humping each other and the list goes on...

dont remember any of those things popping into mind while playing with the toys or watching the animated movie.

[The Original Bamfer]

Have you been to the air and space museum in the universe where giant alien robots exist? :).

There isn't such a thing at the Air and Space Museum in real life. There is, however, at Kennedy Space Center, something similar with rockets and aircraft and such. Perhaps they were combining the concepts?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_and_space_museum :huh:

[The Guard]

Why can't so many people understand this movie? It's not incoherent in the least. If anything it's deceptively simple. I think a lot of people simply weren't paying attention.

[Kud-Dukan]

6/10

I loved the first one, but this one just didn't do it for me. Did it feel like the plot in this movie was a mash up of two or three different scripts? It felt like they had a ton of good ideas, but at least in my opinion it didn't pan out.

[Savage]

yea it may have been a toy line, but somewhere along the transition to the big screen it became about d**k jokes, robots with balls, stereotypes, dogs humping each other and the list goes on...

dont remember any of those things popping into mind while playing with the toys or watching the animated movie.

Yes, admittedly juvenile humor so it fits.

[Jake Cassidy]

It's CLEARLY Aimed at Teenagers!!!

That's the impression I've always had. Ever since the first one.

[Theweepeople]

Have you been to the air and space museum in the universe where giant alien robots exist? :).

There isn't such a thing at the Air and Space Museum in real life. There is, however, at Kennedy Space Center, something similar with rockets and aircraft and such. Perhaps they were combining the concepts?

I thought the point of the original poster was to show it's illogical to not see a graveyard when viewing the museum from the outside yet a punch through a museum wall can transport you to the nearest jet graveyard.

Of course I'm not bothered by this idea right now because I haven't seen the film yet, and I already came up with a theory for what happened.

[Panophobia]

Why can't so many people understand this movie? It's not incoherent in the least. If anything it's deceptively simple. I think a lot of people simply weren't paying attention.

Yeah, I agree. Well written review as well, I definitely agree with many of your points. It was certainly enjoyable for what it was, I just wish some of the toilet humor and related gags were toned down (i.e. Devastator's "scrotum" or Simmons' underwear gag). Much of it feels forced as it did in the first film. At the same time, I understand the wide target audience, but as an older viewer, it remains jarring at times.

I would probably give it around a 7 as well.

[chaseter]

I don't mind their being a plane exhibit outside the Air and Space Museum. It doesn't really bother me. It is like seeing the Chicago signs in TDK...no one really cares.

[Theweepeople]

I don't mind their being a plane exhibit outside the Air and Space Museum. It doesn't really bother me. It is like seeing the Chicago signs in TDK...no one really cares.

I wouldn't be bothered by that either. I'm just saying that the 10 times I visited the museum I didn't see any plane exhibits or jet graveyards on the outside. The museum is surrounded by other museums, a rapid transit system, The White house, Washington Monument, streets, shrubbery, trees, tourists, and other tourist attractions. I can also confirm that there's no desert in Washington DC.

[Jake Cassidy]

I didn't think they were in the desert. Wasn't it just a plane graveyard?

[Octoberist]

well after seeing the museum in Night at the Museum 2, and how it's set up, it's pretty darn obvious that Michael Bay probably didn't give a crap.

[SuperJediHero]

Why can't so many people understand this movie? It's not incoherent in the least. If anything it's deceptively simple. I think a lot of people simply weren't paying attention.

Nah, a lot of people were expecting Dark Knight Part 2.

[SuperJediHero]

yea it may have been a toy line, but somewhere along the transition to the big screen it became about d**k jokes, robots with balls, stereotypes, dogs humping each other and the list goes on...

dont remember any of those things popping into mind while playing with the toys or watching the animated movie.

LIGHTEN UP then, A LOT of people in the audience Laughed really hard during Exactly those scenes... and Oh NOT kids, but Adults!!!

[Jake Cassidy]

I kinda liked Jetfire, but I would've loved to have seen a dog fight with him and Starscream.

[bullets]

I didn't know the whole movie was gonna be a joke. I know what people mean now about the last one but i thought that kept it's balanced. I'll know the truth tommorow when i see it but damn it's not sounding good.

[danoyse]

I don't mind their being a plane exhibit outside the Air and Space Museum. It doesn't really bother me. It is like seeing the Chicago signs in TDK...no one really cares.

Or the elevated subway track in the middle of Manhattan in Spiderman 2, which not only doesn't exist, it was clearly Chicago in several shots.

I haven't been to the Air & Space Museum in a long time, but I don't recall a jet graveyard. Oh well. I doubt this will bother me when I see the film.

[bullets]

Why does devastator have a nutsack ? I keep hearing all the reviews and i hope this movie doesn't just come down to a dirty joke.

[The Dark Defender]

I thought it was better than the first, but still really, really stupid.

Loaded with less, but still far too much idiotic "humor" and melodramatic, mushy Nickelodeon BS whenever LeBeaof or Fox are onscreen, the action scenes are tough to follow, half the time I couldn't even tell who was doing what to who, The Fallen gets a great build up for a whole lot of nothing (great voice performance by Tony Todd though)...

I did like how the film tried to promote sacrifice for the greater good, and I noticed more this time than in the first film that Bay's heart is in the right place, but he's just a terrible, terrible director.
I wish he'd stick to producing. If only Jackson or Spielburg had helmed these films it could've made for one of the most entertaining franchises ever instead of 2 and a half hours of bad jokes, after school special cliches, and headache-inducing, incoherent action scenes.

It's basically the same film as the first, only a bit darker, and a bit less stupid...but still incredibly stupid.

[dpbrave84]

Why does devastator have a nutsack ? I keep hearing all the reviews and i hope this movie doesn't just come down to a dirty joke.

it was like a 5 second scene in the movie...ppl are really exaggerating alot of the bad things in this film...like the twins, the movie is like 2 1/2 hours long they might of had maybe 10 minutes of dialogue if that much, and as far as them being racially offensive, they are robots!!!!! seems to me that everyone assumes what race these robots are portraying...kind of makes everyone else be racial

the movie was pure entertainment and it is what it is...like the first film it does not take it self serious and has fun...not to mention optimus fighting in the forest was better than any fight in the first! everyone is entitled to their opinions and these are just mine! i loved the film and enjoyed it very much because i knew what i was getting with micheal bay...i would watch it myself if i was you and just form your own opinion.

[kyuubijavi1]

Eh the movie was a joke and rather boring but the fight scenes where awesome as F***. So lets quickly sum it up OP is awesome, Jetfire is awesome, Megatron never really does anything other than beat the crap out of Starscream and Fallen well he shows up disappears then shows up again only to fail. If they would of cut off most if not all of the filler like Sam's mom, the chick at the dorm, the room mate, the twins and a few other stupid moments then the film would of been better and possibly an hour shorter.

[rashad]

I saw ROTF earlier today. My review on my initial viewing is a 7.5/10. Despite the flaws and elements that underwhelmed me.

Pros
*Opening backstory.
*Optimus Prime was the badass he should've been in TF1.
*Bumblebee.
*Megan Fox & Isabelle Lucas.
*Sam's parents had some hilarious moments early on. (nearly overkill though)
*Forest Battle.
*Megatron & Starscream relationship.
*Easter Eggs, i.e, Bad Boys 2 poster homage, Frenzy head etc.
*Set design, The Tomb of the Primes was one of my favs.
*The serious, and more dramatic moments (aftermath of Optimus & Sam dying (even if the later comes off as predictable and chessy.).

Cons
*Simmons arse shot
* LOL at the random insertion of Jolt in like 2 scenes. Speaking of random, Skorponok comes out of no fricking where.
*The overuse of Skids and Mudflap, underuse of Ironhide, Rachet, Sideswipe, Arcee Bots.
* Alot of the comedy gags were too much (the dogs and Wheelie humping).
* Movie dragged a bit in that 3rd Act. Pretty bad pacing.
*Continuity errors, especially with Constructicons.
*Devastator taken out so easily, although his only real purpose was to uncover the Sun machine in the pyramid.
*Prime & Fallen end fight wasn't as epic as I had expected. I felt Megatron was the stronger villain in TF1. The Fallen appeared to be dumbed down after Prime got his upgrade.

[bullets]

it was like a 5 second scene in the movie...ppl are really exaggerating alot of the bad things in this film...like the twins, the movie is like 2 1/2 hours long they might of had maybe 10 minutes of dialogue if that much, and as far as them being racially offensive, they are robots!!!!! seems to me that everyone assumes what race these robots are portraying...kind of makes everyone else be racial

...i would watch it myself if i was you and just form your own opinion.




I was hoping it was an exaggeration . i think shia's swinging on vines with monkeys sequence in I. J. gets blown out of proportion . So hopefully thats all it is.


I'll see the movie regardless though.

[dpbrave84]

I was hoping it was an exaggeration . i think shia's swinging on vines with monkeys sequence in I. J. gets blown out of proportion . So hopefully thats all it is.


I'll see the movie regardless though.



yea thats the best way to go about it...if you enjoyed the first one i dont see why you wouldnt enjoy this one...

[The Apocalypse]

Kind of really sucks to hear that a lot of the attention is on the twins.

Just curious, how are they racist anyways?

They aren't racist..people are just way to sensitive.


I loved this movie just like I did the first one. I usually cringe at cheesy, over the top, action flicks but for some reason Transformers and Transformers ROTF I found to be great. The only thing I didn't like about this movie was his mother. She kept going on and on and on.

[The Caped Knight]

Overall I enjoyed the film it was basically a Action Packed Summer blockbuster film . Since This is a Michael Bay film , I really didn't expected great storytelling or Oscar worthy preformance acting . I got exactly what I wanted Badass Optimus Prime kicking Decepticons ass , Megatron Reborn, Bumblebee vs. Ravage, The Matrix Of Leadership, an expanded detailed history of the Children of Primus (Cybertronian history) Devastaor, Jetfire & Soundwave . Their were certain moments of the film that weren't really necessary, The Comedy factor could have been towned down a bit so could all the sexual material (Then again as my father says Sex sells ). I'm glad that their was a vast improvement on the visual effects with the Transformers . I could actually see the battles much clear now than in the first film . The Battle between The Autobots & Decepticons totally owned the first film climacted battle . The Story was avarage at best nothing earth shattering but still enetertaining .

[Watson]

I was really pumped for this film. I loved TF. I saw it twice in theatres. Maybe that's why I was so disapointed. But this truly was a bloated mess of a film. They could have easily cut at least an hour of the film. And why did Sam's annoying as hell parents have more screen time then Ratchet, Ironhide, Arcee, and the new Corvette one put together? And why did some robots randomly disappear (the little "Italian gangster" one, the twins? Did I miss where they died?). And where did all those Decepticons come from at the end? The plotholes were so big you could drive Optimus through them.

The only saving grace of this film for me was getting to see Bumblebee actually kick some but, and all the Megatron/Starscream scenes. Those were awesome.

EDIT: And the absolute worst had to be that stupid near death experience dream Sam had. Me and my friend looked at each other and burst out laughing.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I thought this film was awesome! I lied the first one a little better, but this one really good as well. Loved the comedy, and overall, this film blew me away. I'll write my full review later, but for right now, I'll tell you my score.

8.5/10. :up:

[Gracen1]

He said it's on par with IM and ST, better than I4...


Wrong on both accounts though. ST is the best of the four, followed by IM then I4 then waaaay last T2

star trek had the silliest plot of them all. by the way, is nero still waiting for spock on a hunch that he will someday show up. waisting over 20 years waiting for someone that might not come when his advanced ship can rule the universe.......epic fail. the plot made nero look like a total dumbass. T2>ST.as for indy 4, any indy fan that actually knows something about the indy franchise will tell you indy 4 sucked devastator's scrotem.

[DemonicFoil]

Just saw the film and for me it had that epic feel too it and the humor actually had me laughing out loud instead of rolling my eyes this time. The twins weren't that annoying and the whole devastator having balls thing was really not that bad.

[The Guard]

Nah, a lot of people were expecting Dark Knight Part 2.

Which was also pretty damn rambling and "convenient" as a plot. It just didn't involve such far out ideas.

[SodaPop]

Freakin Loved this! All you haters, please lighten up.

[DopdBrd]

I going to go out on a limb and give it a 9/10. The only thing I found wrong with the movie was the lack of character development in the new Transformers. I would have liked to see them have more interaction with each other. After hearing all the *****ing and complaining on here I started to get a little worried. But after seeing the movie I will say that I really enjoyed it.

[DarknessOfDeath]

I going to go out on a limb and give it a 9/10. The only thing I found wrong with the movie was the lack of character development in the new Transformers. I would have liked to see them have more interaction with each other. After hearing all the *****ing and complaining on here I started to get a little worried. But after seeing the movie I will say that I really enjoyed it.


I actually felt the same way too after reading all the negative posts here and there but I just saw the movie and I really enjoyed it as well. I loved the first and I loved this one. The only things I wish there was more of were Ironhide and Rachet. Less mom going over the top. Though I admit her scenes were kinda funny but still... it was a tad too much. The scene with Wheelie humping Megan's leg wasn't necessary even though it was funny. I thought Leo was a little annoying.

Those are my little gripes. The theater that I was at the audience were laughing at the right moments and at the end, there was clapping.

Since I rated T1 an 8/10, I give this one a solid 9/10.

[UltimateComix]

No.

G1 was based on a toy line.

This movie was loosely based on the comics and cartoons. Bay openly stated he didn't want to do some "*****ing movie about toys" ........

Yeah, I'm not trying to downplay the awesome universe that was created by the comics and cartoons. But I'm saying since that source material was essentially a big advertisement for Hasbro turned into a 22 minute cartoon (as awesome as it was), it still wasn't anything deep or emotional, and the movie follows the same tone as the already established universe.

There it is again fellas...........that same ol' stale argument. It's the go-to for all the fan boys. Even though none of us expected riveting plot.

I thought the plot was a lot more interesting than the first one. And really, I'm not sure how so many people are saying the plot was "incoherent" or whatever. I didn't really notice any plotholes, and I didn't have trouble following the events at all. Maybe some of you guys missed stuff because you saw it at midnight and were tired :P

Its cool if people want to complain about some of their favorite Transformers not getting enough screentime (like Arceus), or complain about annoying characters like Leo. But I just don't know how people are saying they are disappointed with the overall movie because of the "acting" (even though Shia is great, and Megan Fox is so hot that it doesn't matter that she's a terrible actress) and the ho hum plot (which was so much more engaging than the first)

[Savage]

I really did think that this was supposed to be a kids movie along the lines of "Small Soldiers" but I guess I'm giving it too little credit? :huh:

[DemonicFoil]

Just saw the film and for me it had that epic feel too it and the humor actually had me laughing out loud instead of rolling my eyes this time. The twins weren't that annoying and the whole devastator having balls thing was really not that bad.


I also forgot to mention if i had one minor complaint it would be soundwave's voice, i thought they were going to make him sound more like the cartoons.:csad:

[Kane52630]

Transformers 2

4/10 + IMAX = 6/10

the movie is forgettable, it has a horrible storyline, but it was my first time being at IMAX, and had bad seats (we were late)

but im going again on Friday (due to most of my friends pre-ordered their tickets late and got them for friday)

[Superhero 101]

My Verdict: It wasn't a bad film but it wasn't great it was good enough for. me to like it. The Beginning was Amazing with Shanghai you get right into the movie and action. The Pace of the Film was okay the problem that i had was that Bay didn't really introduce the new Autobots that well He just kinda put them there as new Autobots A Big problem of the Movie is that there is no Characterization Developement. The Action was amazing like some of the fight sequences were eye popping for me. The Bumblebee one was really entertaining And of Course The Forest Scene And The Battle With The Fallen was short but good. There were a few Plotholes but just a few. The Ending was way Rushed everything was happening so fast it is easy to get confused or lost. The Acting was probably the Achilles Heal Megan Fox is all body and no Acting Shia is still a kid and has not improved whatsoever and Tyrese and Josh had No point in the film at all The Comedy in the Film is Typical Bay Crap. But the Film is a good overall it is a typical Summer Action Flick Go Watch it I Give it a 7/10

[Theweepeople]

star trek had the silliest plot of them all. by the way, is nero still waiting for spock on a hunch that he will someday show up. waisting over 20 years waiting for someone that might not come when his advanced ship can rule the universe.......epic fail. the plot made nero look like a total dumbass. T2>ST.as for indy 4, any indy fan that actually knows something about the indy franchise will tell you indy 4 sucked devastator's scrotem.

You're being completely silly. Nero waited 20 years for spock to get the red matter from him so he could destroy planet Vulcan. Nero had no intention of ruling the universe because that's not what motivated his character. His character was motivated by revenge.

[Asteroid-Man]

Fantastic film! I would love it if in the next one Sam gets a big weapon to step in and save Optimus or Bumblebee. Maybe an exo-skeletton suit (similar to Matrix:Revolutions) or just a biggass tank. I also want individual screen time for Bumblebee (where he can actually talk), Ironhide, Arcee and Ratchet. Also I hope to see Unicron for the climax. I don't understand the hate for this film AT ALL!

[Kane52630]

Fantastic film! I would love it if in the next one Sam gets a big weapon to step in and save Optimus or Bumblebee. Maybe an exo-skeletton suit (similar to Matrix:Revolutions) or just a biggass tank. I also want individual screen time for Bumblebee (where he can actually talk), Ironhide, Arcee and Ratchet. Also I hope to see Unicron for the climax. I don't understand the hate for this film AT ALL!

Lots of action and little story, thats why some of us are not liking the film

[TheDreamMaster]

Overall I liked the film a hell of a lot. It was a fun ride.

But as mentioned earlier, the constructicon continuity errors were ridiculous, Bay's storyboards must have looked better on paper until he got to the editing room and saw that it made no sense and had to switch up some stuff.

The twins were a major sore spot for me, these idiots are given far too much screen time and Jolt and Sideswipe suffer for it.


But in all honesty, when I look at it, there was more good than bad, for me at least. I felt it was worth my 12 bucks for IMAX. Just like the first movie for me.

I agree with this poster. My only complaint aside for the ones mentioned here is some of the CGI looked awful. Maybe it was just because it was all so fast, but like the final fight between Prime and the Fallen looked awful to me for some reason. It was still great, just didn't feel like the eye candy it should have. Not to mention, scene like the Twins heading to the ruins behind the human characters looked weird in the heat-waved background. Otherwise, I loved it. Hope Bay continues to deliver.

[DeaDheaD]

I could have done without, Devastator's balls, Simmons' balls, and the Wheelie leghumping, but overall it was entertaining and they did a much better job making Prime a badass this time.

[craigdbfan]

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Review (Deux IMAX edition)

I'll keep it short.

So I saw the movie again (had to because I spent money on an IMAX ticket that I had pre ordered online).

I have to say that once I watched it again knowing what I was walking into made the experience better. Some of the comedic gags made me chuckle silently and the Twins weren't as annoying the second time around and Sam's mother was more tolerable because I kind of gave up not liking her.

While the movie's story still felt disjointed and overly dragged on for 2 hours. The shots filmed in IMAX looked great but the sizing issue when it switched from 35mm to IMAX was a bit distracting but nothing serious really.

I did however start dazing off once again during the third half of the movie. Which still remains an unabashed dragging full of filler (something that not only happens in the third half but constantly with the human arcs in this movie). If this movie would have been shorter I probably wouldn't of disliked it so much my first time seeing it.

So now that my first viewing was able to sink in (initially I was pretty disappointed), I was able to enjoy it far more the second time around (the special effects and some of the action sequences are to great for me to completely dislike this movie). I think the length is what makes some of the parts kind of excruciating to watch. Yes, some of the acting is over the top, bland even but the movie as a whole has an odd charm to it thats hard to dismiss.

With all that said I rate:

"Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" a 6/10

[Lighthouse]

Lots of action and little story, thats why some of us are not liking the film

Its not really even that. I find myself as one of the minority here who hated this film. Really hated it. I say this as someone who really liked the first one, and I like big action movies with robots fighting each other. But the massive levels of stupidity, the awful unfunny "comic relief", and of course, the twins, really bring this movie to the gutters. Thing is, this particular movie, at about 90 to 100 minutes, I could see as passable entertainment, and possibly enjoyable. But at 2 hours and 24 minutes, it is nearly unbearable. I've never seen a movie so completely and unnecessarily bloated before. Its worse than Pirates 3 in terms of sheer unnecessary footage. I'm glad others enjoyed it, but I'll be telling everyone I know to avoid this at least until DVD.

[craigdbfan]

Thing is, this particular movie, at about 90 to 100 minutes, I could see as passable entertainment, and possibly enjoyable. But at 2 hours and 24 minutes, it is nearly unbearable. I've never seen a movie so completely and unnecessarily bloated before.

Completely agree. Thats one of the factors that made the movie such a bad experience the first time around. Senseless fodder to stretch the running time for no apparent reason.

[Boom]

Ignoring the blood-boiling theater experience, the film was terrible. Great fun, but a terrible film.

5/10

[roach]

Loved the movie 9/10 for me....would have been 10/10 but Sound wave didnt have his voice

[Lighthouse]

I'm really mystified as to why mindless action blockbusters are getting so damn long. With guys like Peter Jackson, I can see their reasoning(though I think King Kong was still way too damn long), but Transformers and the Pirates movies? Aren't these movies supposed to leave us breathless, not mind numbing and tedious?

[Boom]

I'm really mystified as to why mindless action blockbusters are getting so damn long. With guys like Peter Jackson, I can see their reasoning(though I think King Kong was still way too damn long), but Transformers and the Pirates movies? Aren't these movies supposed to leave us breathless, not mind numbing and tedious?
It doesn't help when probably an hour of the film is dedicated to horrible comic relief that has absolutely nothing to do with the film. Example, the mom eating weed brownies.

Why?

Just why?

[Bond]

To make this brief, it was stupid, repetitive, and surprisingly boring. 5/10.

[skorponok]

Loved the movie 9/10 for me....would have been 10/10 but Sound wave didnt have his voice

That IS Soundwave's voice...that's exactly what it sounded like in the G1 Cartoons in the rare instances when the vocoder wasn't on (I believe there was an entire episode where the vocoder wasn't applied...)

[Bunker]

What the **** did I just watch? It felt like a recruiting video for all 5 branches of the military combined with a horrendously bad sitcom combined with a lame ass apocalyptic goat**** of a plot. The crowd I was with clapped at the end. Sweet christ.

[chaseter]

Transformers 2

4/10 + IMAX = 6/10

the movie is forgettable, it has a horrible storyline, but it was my first time being at IMAX, and had bad seats (we were late)

but im going again on Friday (due to most of my friends pre-ordered their tickets late and got them for friday)
The movie is forgettable but you are going back to see it again:huh:

[Boom]

Still, I should give Michael Bay some credit. He managed to create a character even worse than Sam What-the-****-ever-wicky: the roommate.

[Bunker]

It seemed like eevery single ****ing line was a sarcastic remark attempting to get a giggle from the audience. It's like "how about a serious piece of dialogue PLZ". The scenes in Egypt with Torturro, the ****ing annoying roommate, and the twins made me want to punch myself in the forehead as hard as possible. Anyone who liked this movie seriously has the brain of a small child.

This is coming from someone who loved the first one (in theaters).

[Bunker]

****ing double.

[skorponok]

Pros:

Optimus throughout...

Bumblebee

Ravage/Soundwave

(That IS the same Soundwave voice - just without the vocoder - there were actually moments in the G1 cartoon where he sounded exactly the same that people apparently forgot)

Megatron/Starscream

Alice the Pretender (much better than I expected)

The moment between Sam and his father towards the end - people who have seen the movie will know what I'm talking about

The brief moments with Sideswipe

ILM - I did not think, even for the briefest of moments, that I was watching CGI characters...disbelief was indeed suspended...

Tony Todd as The Fallen

Jetfire and Upgrade Prime...I actually really enjoyed Jetfire's arc...

The 8923982389 G1 references I'm sure most people missed (for instance, the obvious use of the word/obscure TF name "Camshaft), etc...



Cons:

I actually disliked the opening - it was extremely clunky and really quite a mess - strangely that seems to be a scene many liked...

I'm all for long movies, but it could have been trimmed about 10 minutes...

Dog humping...for some reason it was funny enough just seeing the other dog with his "bling"

Apparently New Jersey and Washington DC have the same California backdrop - as someone from the East Coast who lives in Southern California now that was a bit jarring...

The idea of having characters as comic relief is a little pointless when there are about 95 comic relief characters...

The film lacks quite a bit of that "magic" feel that the original had...then again I knew from the start that would be damn near impossible to duplicate...



Closing: A very worthy sequel...some disjointed moments...it's A LOT to take in...

The twins are nowhere NEAR as prevalent as some people have said...

NOTE: I'm not sure if it's been pointed out, but quite a bit of the story of the film seemed to reference the 1986 animated film, just swap out Hot Rod for Sam...

[skorponok]

The crowd I was with clapped at the end.

A ton of applause at the end of mine as well.

[Jake Cassidy]

It seemed like eevery single ****ing line was a sarcastic remark attempting to get a giggle from the audience. It's like "how about a serious piece of dialogue PLZ". The scenes in Egypt with Torturro, the ****ing annoying roommate, and the twins made me want to punch myself in the forehead as hard as possible. Anyone who liked this movie seriously has the brain of a small child.

This is coming from someone who loved the first one (in theaters).

You don't have to insult people who liked the movie just because you didn't.

[Bunker]

This movie was an insult to my intelligence.

Bay needs to grow up.

[Jake Cassidy]

This movie was an insult to my intelligence.

Bay needs to grow up.

What intelligence? :oldrazz:

[Bunker]

What intelligence? :oldrazz:
Nice edit, d00d. I was about to call you a meanie.

[Boom]

My experience in the theater was inexcusable. Children shouting, parents doing nothing, people talking. What made things worse was that the mind-numbing "humor" in this film was received by a riot from the audience.

-Two redneck robots? Not funny.
-The roommate? Not funny.
-Deep Roy's cameo? Not funny.
-John Turturro? Not funny.
-The mom eating weed brownies? Not funny.
-Devastator's wrecking ball nut sack? Not funny.
-Wheelie humping Megan Fox's leg? Not funny.

The film is PG-13, but with this kind of humor, it's like Bay went out of his way to target infants. By hour two, I half expected the Twins to have a fart-off.

[Jake Cassidy]

Nice edit, d00d. I was about to call you a meanie.

I forgot the smilie the first time. :woot:

[CelticPredator]

I love Simmons.

But whateveah...and he always gets a BIG reaction when he comes into play.

[skorponok]

I love Simmons.

But whateveah...and he always gets a BIG reaction when he comes into play.

I didn't care for Simmons in the original but liked him quite a bit more this go-round...sans the ass shot of course ;)

[Nathan]

I hated Turturro in the first one, I hated him just as much in ROTF.

[combocaz]

I thought it was a really good film for its genre.

[The Apocalypse]

This movie was an insult to my intelligence.

Bay needs to grow up.

If you're so intelligent I would think you would go into the movie expecting to see what you saw in the first movie but this time just a lot more of it.

Example 1: Things blowing up. It happened in the first movie a lot..this time even more.

Example 2: ****** sarcastic dialogue. Ton of that in the first movie. This one was filled with it even more. (yes the mother and the roommate did get annoying but not enough for me to hate the film)

I'm not sure what people really expected out of this movie, especially when they saw and enjoyed the first one. All it is is a fun action movie. If you want to watch something sophisticated watch Donnie Darko. If you want such great acting and dialogue go sit home and watch The Departed. Seriously, it's Michael Bay. What did you want from him?

[Nathan]

I'm not sure what people really expected out of this movie, especially when they saw and enjoyed the first one.

I tell you what I didn't expect. Giant. Transformer. Testicles. Megan Fox's leg behing humped by a Transformer. Putting the Focus on retard Twins when you got the Acree's and Sideswipe around.

Nothing I've seen in the first one could've prepared me for this. The first one had it's immature jokes from time to time, but I found most hilarious. All the Bumblebee moments, the Transformers at Sam's house, etc. But ROTF took the whole thing to an entirely new level.

The niveau took such a dive, you can't say that people who enjoyed the humor in the first Movie, will enjoy the humor here.

[skorponok]

Putting the Focus on retard Twins when you got the Acree's and Sideswipe around.


While I wasn't as annoyed by them as many have been, I would have substituted Hot Rod for the two of them. At least he'd have served more of a purpose/made sense if you just have to have a hip-talking younger Autobot...

[Octoberist]

Transformers 2

5/10

I'm not gonna bash it but I'm going to say this: Somewhere in there might be a decent movie if they cut out all of the useless scenes. It's okay to have a fun cute scene here and there with Sam and his family, but for the entire first act. The movie draggged like crazy. Even the last act was extremely boring, despite the action. Isn't that weird?

Secondly, the movie sidelines the actual Transformers. They are just side characters and you barely get to know them, or even get a proper introduction to the new Autobots. Besides Prime, Jetfire, and Megatron and Starscream, no one else does anything or say anything useful. The Twins are not just stupid, they don't even contribute to the story. Heck, even Wheelie is more important than the Twins.

Overall, this movie caters to the lowest common denominator, even more so than Transformers 1, a movie which I did enjoy. I left my brain out of the first movie and I liked it. I left my brain out of the second movie, and I was shocked how low it went.

By the way, Michael Bay is outdated. Actresses shouldn't look like Hollister/American Eagle models. He needs to update to the Urban Outfitter/American Apparel crowd. I'm dead serious about this.

[The Apocalypse]

I tell you what I didn't expect. Giant. Transformer. Testicles. Megan Fox's leg behing humped by a Transformer. Putting the Focus on retard Twins when you got the Acree's and Sideswipe around.

Nothing I've seen in the first one could've prepared me for this. The first one had it's immature jokes from time to time, but I found most hilarious. All the Bumblebee moments, the Transformers at Sam's house, etc. But ROTF took the whole thing to an entirely new level.

The niveau took such a dive, you can't say that people who enjoyed the humor in the first Movie, will enjoy the humor here.

I'm saying that it was going to be taken to a whole other level. Yes, some of the stuff said and done was ridiculous but I found all the better parts to out shine a small little part when a tiny transformer humped Megan Fox's leg for 3 seconds.

[Octoberist]

It seemed like eevery single ****ing line was a sarcastic remark attempting to get a giggle from the audience. It's like "how about a serious piece of dialogue PLZ". The scenes in Egypt with Torturro, the ****ing annoying roommate, and the twins made me want to punch myself in the forehead as hard as possible. Anyone who liked this movie seriously has the brain of a small child.

This is coming from someone who loved the first one (in theaters).

The sad thing is that you spend so much time with these new characters that the characters that I liked (Ironhide, Rachet) are barely in the friggin' movie.

[Microchip]

I felt that this movie was pretty epic in it's successes and failures. It kind of levelled out as average. I REALLY couldn't stand Sam's parents, I don't get why they were featured that heavily, and the twin autobots hurt too. At the same time, there were a lot of entertaining elements, and Bay is the king of making mindless, fun popcorn flicks.

[Gracen1]

You're being completely silly. Nero waited 20 years for spock to get the red matter from him so he could destroy planet Vulcan. Nero had no intention of ruling the universe because that's not what motivated his character. His character was motivated by revenge.

the silly thing is nero still waited for spock when for all everyone knew, it would be blind luck for spock to come along when he did. it could've been 100 years. that plot point has been torn apart from already. the dude could have kept a ship waiting for the eventual arrival of spock while he conquered the UNIVERSE. his stupidity to destroy vulcan because spock, an ally of the romulans, was a moment to late to save his race, when spock didn't have to bear that responsibility in the first place. the entire federation's plan was to bear it all on spock.....okay.......silly indeed. also, to say nero had character.....he was as one-dimensional as a villain can get. megatron had as much character, he was more enjoyable at least.

[Nathan]

The Travel group was so uneven. I don't mind if you put the focus on new characters, but the entire group mainly consisted out of idiots. You've got the roommate who doesn't stop crying, Turturro, the retard Twins and Wheelie. With Sam and Mikaela being the normal guys of the group and Bumblebee still as a mute.

[Octoberist]

I really don't know why the parents were so heavily featured either.

[The Apocalypse]

I was really hoping that the roommate and Turtutto died. Sadly, they didn't.

[Octoberist]

the silly thing is nero still waited for spock when for all everyone knew, it would be blind luck for spock to come along when he did. it could've been 100 years. that plot point has been torn apart from already. the dude could have kept a ship waiting for the eventual arrival of spock while he conquered the UNIVERSE. his stupidity to destroy vulcan because spock, an ally of the romulans, was a moment to late to save his race, when spock didn't have to bear that responsibility in the first place. the entire federation's plan was to bear it all on spock.....okay.......silly indeed. also, to say nero had character.....he was as one-dimensional as a villain can get. megatron had as much character, he was more enjoyable at least.

I agree that Megatron was a more entertaining villain. However, the crew of the Enterprise made the movie magically despite its flaws.

Here, Prime and Bubblebee are barely featured, and it was all about Sam and his crew. All whom had zero character or charm.

[Nathan]

I try to imagine how great the group would've been if you got Banacheck instead of Turturro's character, the roommate being murdered before by the Pretender and Skids & Mudflap being replaced by Sideswipe and one of the Arcee's.

[Gracen1]

the part when leo was freakin out in the car and him being tasered should've been cut. also, when devastator was finishing transforming, they cut to sam and mikaela running around. they should've kept the camera on devastator. i felt they took the momentum away from that awesome transformation scene.

[Octoberist]

yeah, if they just replaced the Twins with Sidewipe and Arcee, it would have been great.