Gangsta Gene?

[PyroChamber]

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17337-gangsta-gene-identified-in-us-teens.html

It's not nearly as overt as a hand sign or a coloured bandana, but DNA may offer one clue as to whether someone belongs to a gang or not.

Males with a particular form of gene called MAOA are twice as likely to join a gang, compared to those with other forms, finds a new study of more than 2000 US teens. What's more, gang members with these mutations are far more likely to use a weapon than other members.

"For the most part, people haven't really thought of the biological or genetic underpinnings to gang membership, says Kevin Beaver, a biosocial criminologist at Florida State University in Tallahassee, who led the study. Well, that's just...interesting.

[Manic]

I'm not sure I like the idea of society blaming all of its problems on "a genetic predisposed inclination toward [blank] behavior." Drugs, alcohol, violence, gang activity. It's all being blamed on genes. We're this [--] close to a world where the children of criminals will be treated differently by society out of a fear that they'll mimic all of their parents' crimes.

[E-Man]

Maybe this explains why I beat the **** out of those kids the other day.

[Wiseman]

genetics determine everything about what personality type we are going to be......we are still free to make our own choices though

[amazingfantasy15]

Why is it whenever I read something like this "Blame Canada" instantly pops into my head

[E-Man]

Why is it whenever I read something like this "Blame Canada" instantly pops into my head

They're not even a real country anyway.:o

[Wiseman]

They're not even a real country anyway.:o

Hey shut-up, I count Canada as one of the countries I've been to........don't take that away from me. Don't you dare

[Carcharodon]

Genes do control more aspects of our behavior than many are willing to believe (or admit). We'd like to think that our ability of higher-reasoning somehow makes us the master of those behavioral traits, but the truth is that in many instances that ability takes a back-seat to what you may call "programmed" behaviors.

On the other hand, the concern expressed by Manic is a valid one. What are the social implications of the study of sociobiology?

[E-Man]

Hey shut-up, I count Canada as one of the countries I've been to........don't take that away from me. Don't you dare

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s187/Estro17/canadasucks.png

[LiveWire777]

everyone is so friendly in Canada though.... and weeds legal!!

[bullets]

must be in the genes.

[ChickenScratch]

Just another way people can avoid personal responsibility for their own actions. Gotta love this society we have growing up around us when no one can own their own faults but blames genes, TV, media, upbringing, education, Satan rather than saying "I screwed up."

[E-Man]

Just another way people can avoid personal responsibility for their own actions. Gotta love this society we have growing up around us when no one can own their own faults but blames genes, TV, media, upbringing, education, Satan rather than saying "I screwed up."

Don't you bring your reasonable logic in here!:cmad: Either you come here to make fun of Canada, or you get outta here!:oldrazz:

[Sam Fisher]

My Gansta Sense is tingling.

[ChickenScratch]

Don't you bring your reasonable logic in here!:cmad: Either you come here to make fun of Canada, or you get outta here!:oldrazz:

Been to Canada a couple times, the whole place smells like apples ... weird.

[Colossal Spoons]

This is ridiculous

[chamber-music]

This is ridiculous

Spoons did you just call Canada ridiculous? :shock:hyper:

[Colossal Spoons]

The whole lot of ya lol

[JustABill]

Okay..why are we looking for a gangsta gene in the first place? :rolleyes:

[ChickenScratch]

Because scientists forgot they should be curing disease, making renewable energy cheaper and making giant monsters.

[The Lizard]

I think "gangsta" is a cultural environment, not a gene.

[Carcharodon]

Okay..why are we looking for a gangsta gene in the first place? :rolleyes:He's a biosocial criminologist. That's his job.

I think "gangsta" is a cultural environment, not a gene.I don't think anybody is arguing that environment doesn't play a role (even a large one). Phenotypes tend to have a genetic and environmental basis.

I also don't think that it's meant to sound so definite in its implication. That is to say, I don't think that they mean that everyone with this gene will join a gang. However, the idea that there are genes responsible for certain personality traits which can influence larger social decisions and actions isn't that much of a stretch at all, especially with what we've learned over the past few years.

[Obi-Ron]

That is to say, I don't think that they mean that everyone with this gene will join a gang. However, the idea that there are genes responsible for certain personality traits which can influence larger social decisions and actions isn't that much of a stretch at all, especially with what we've learned over the past few years.

Don't let the gays hear you say that. They can't help it, it's genetic. :whatever:

[Colossal Spoons]

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4143/canworms10200431026103.jpg

[Crook]

Don't let the gays hear you say that. They can't help it, it's genetic. :whatever:
Are you implying homosexuality is as much of a choice as living in a gangster life?

[E-Man]

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4143/canworms10200431026103.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/BlackLion85/WTF.gif

[Obi-Ron]

If they are both gentically pre-determined, then the answer seems to be yes. Guess it's time gangs were legalized.

[Wiseman]

Are you implying homosexuality is as much of a choice as living in a gangster life?

Are you implying that he's implying homosexuality is as much of a choice as living in a gangster life?


By the way, it's gangsta not gangster......gangsters cared about honor and respect

[Crook]

If they are both gentically pre-determined, then the answer seems to be yes. Guess it's time gangs were legalized.
Not sure I'm following. The case for it being pre-determined pretty much states that the lifestyle cannot be chosen, as it is in your very nature to act to whatever genetic disposition you might have.

I simply cannot agree that both these lifestyles are one in the same. I've seen this first-hand with a close group of friends I had in high school, one of which despite being around the "straight" life, constant badgering of girls, and in a subculture that looks down upon being gay, ended up being a homosexual himself a couple years later. The rest of the friends did end up in a "ghetto" life in some form or another and are no longer in contact with said homosexual.


By the way, it's gangsta not gangster......gangsters cared about honor and respect
We can argue about their "code" all we want, the lifestyles are still both dangerous and violent.

[Carcharodon]

Don't let the gays hear you say that. They can't help it, it's genetic. :whatever:What about my statement implied that being gay isn't genetic? If anything, it lends itself well to that concept.

[Carcharodon]

If they are both gentically pre-determined...That's not what is being said, so....