Supernatural - Season 5

[The Apatow Crew]

Actually Sam gave it to Dean for Christmas when they were young. Sam was gonna give it to their dad. But he said he was never around and this was when Sam found out about the monsters and what their dad does.

[SpideyVille]

no problemo, but i was wrong about it being from his father. According to wikipedia:

"He always wears a metal amulet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amulet), given to him as a gift by his brother,[/URL] on a long black cloth band necklace. In "A Very Supernatural Christmas," the necklace is revealed to have been a gift from Sam on [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Day"]Christmas Day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Winchester#cite_note-1), 1991. The amulet was originally meant for John, and obtained from Bobby Singer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Singer), but after their father failed to come home for Christmas (as always), Sam gave it to Dean instead, saying "Dad lied to me; I want you to have it," and because Dean had tried to give him a good Christmas."

[darkseid26]

cool

[SpideyVille]

http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Dean%27s_Amulet

[darkseid26]

love their interpretation of the four horsemen

[The Apatow Crew]

Will War please come on down!!!

[Dark Helmet]

It looks like the demon world is getting into the human world

[Savage]

It looks like the demon world is getting into the human world

It already did like 2 seasons ago. 3 if you want to get technical.

I wonder how they're going to deal with this split. Goddamn cliffhangers. The War reveal did make my jaw drop though. Wow. Great ep. Plenty of action.

[<(o_o)>]

Will GOD & Jesus be the same person/being on Supernatural? Technically shouldn't Jesus be the one to return before GOD anyways?

[Prison Mike]

I need to see this episode again. I wasn't 100% focused on it since I was doing some homework at the same time.

[Marvolo]

Does anyone know where i can watch this online? I forgot to set my dvr like a dumbass! I could kick my ass!

[Slick]

Did anyone notice that the same actor who played war is the same actor who played jacobs enemy on lost?

[AIRWOLF]

Great episode as always. Castiel sure showed Dean :). I liked how War played everyone against each other. More importantly the ending was quite sad, I don't want them to be separated for long.

9/10.

[Savage]

It's the ring that I can't wait to see used. Surely that'll be put to good use later.

[Orb]

Just to let you guys know 8.7 MILLION copies of Season 4 has been sold!!:wow:

[Savage]

Nice. Stiiiill waiting for black friday for that one.

[Prison Mike]

Just to let you guys know 8.7 MILLION copies of Season 4 has been sold!!:wow:

for a second there, I thought that was the number of people who saw last night's episode.

[Sawyer]

Great episode, as usual. I though Cas' comment that "You and your brother ended the world" was a bit hypocritical.... who was the one who let Sam go, Cas? Remind me again. :)

[Dark Helmet]

Great episode, as usual. I though Cas' comment that "You and your brother ended the world" was a bit hypocritical.... who was the one who let Sam go, Cas? Remind me again. :)

Zach said it best "We are all responsible"

[The FallenAngel]

My favorite line from last night was "God is on no flatbread.". Castiel is awesome.

[Prison Mike]

I am getting tired of everyone pouncing on Sam. I know what he did was wrong but still...everyone had a part in releasing Lucifer. After all, Dean kind of started it all.

[Sawyer]

I am getting tired of everyone pouncing on Sam. I know what he did was wrong but still...everyone had a part in releasing Lucifer. After all, Dean kind of started it all.

:up: x 1000. Everyone had their part to play.

[DIRECTOR]

Did anyone notice that the same actor who played war is the same actor who played jacobs enemy on lost?
oh crap, you are right....... interesting....

[Sawyer]

Did anyone notice that the same actor who played war is the same actor who played jacobs enemy on lost?
...
Titus Welliver is playing one of the four horsemen? Jacob's Enemy from LOST is playing one of Lucifer's (Mark Pelligrino, who played Jacob on LOST) four horsemen?!

That is just too awesome.

:up:

[lespaul59]

I like the fact that it seems like they're using more music in the episode again. I've yet to pick up season 4 yet because spending $60 on another Blu Ray set so close together with Smallville BR set hasn't been easy.

[Sawyer]

I wonder how the writers plan to introduce Famine, Conquest and Death...

[Slick]

...


:up:
Sorry should of looked. :doh:

[iamlegend]

I wonder how the writers plan to introduce Famine, Conquest and Death...

I wonder if they'll take the Conquest interpretation or the Pestilence one?

With that demon disease we know's coming up later in the season, I've got to lean towards Pestilence.

And since Death is the last Horseman on the scene (at least in most interpretations) I'd imagine he'll arrive right around the time they kill off a relatively important character.

[enterthemadness]

Did anyone else laugh when Dean and Castiel made those lines about God? The Nex Mexico/flatbread one?

[GyLocke]

I am getting tired of everyone pouncing on Sam. I know what he did was wrong but still...everyone had a part in releasing Lucifer. After all, Dean kind of started it all.

Yeah, but Dean spent decades in hell before started to torture people. Sam did it in the season finale to that girl, when Ruby asked very nicely.

[Orb]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/Heat-Z/f_bn11m_322551b.png

[Prison Mike]

this episode is going to be a cool one!

[Orb]

Yes it will!

[Sawyer]

Yeah, but Dean spent decades in hell before started to torture people. Sam did it in the season finale to that girl, when Ruby asked very nicely.

Dean was torturing innocent souls (well... they were in hell, so they may not have all been innocent) to stop his own pain. Sam was trying to kill Lilith to stop the Apocalypse.

[SpideyVille]

I think we can all agree that it's all Dean's fault for making the deal that sent him to hell and started this whole mess in the first place. :p

[Orb]

If you wanna blame someone, blame Mary. If she had not made the deal with Azazel. None of this would have happened.

[Prison Mike]

true. He made the deal because he couldn't live in a world without Sam. so...he kind of did it for his own benefit.

[Prison Mike]

If you wanna blame someone, blame Mary. If she had not made the deal with Azazel. None of this would have happened.

I blame Mary's dad for getting possessed in the first place! :oldrazz:

[SpideyVille]

Then again, Sam could've killed Azazel back in season one when he was possessing John.:o

[Sawyer]

Then again, John could've just let Dean die. At least he probably would've gone to a better place. Not hell.

[Orb]

Then again....I got nothing.

[SpideyVille]

I blame Eric Kripke. After all, he is behind it all.

[Orb]

Imagine if you played God?

[enterthemadness]

Imagine if you played God?

Where is God in all of this anyway? Is he playing video games up in his room in Heaven while this is happening on Earth?

[Orb]

Where is God in all of this anyway? Is he playing video games up in his room in Heaven while this is happening on Earth?
Maybe he has a master plan?

[Fresh Prince]

Maybe he has a master plan?

Or maybe he has confidence that good will prevail over evil at the end. I mean GOD knows everything.

[Prison Mike]

I'm really interested to see who they will cast as God.

[Sawyer]

I'm really interested to see who they will cast as God.

*waits for someone to say Bruce Campbell*

[Dark Helmet]

Then again, John could've just let Dean die. At least he probably would've gone to a better place. Not hell.

Am I the only one that wonders where Sam went when he was dead for a day ?

[AIRWOLF]

Is all this talk about who started Armageddon? In that case, everyone's responsible because they all wallowed in sins and now they have to pay the price ;P.

Or maybe he has confidence that good will prevail over evil at the end. I mean GOD knows everything.

Well of course, since he made everything, things will always turn out how he intends them to.

[Prison Mike]

this may be a stupid question but what's the difference between armageddon and apocalypse?

[DIRECTOR]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/Heat-Z/f_bn11m_322551b.png
that looks like an awesome episode, but from the picture, it's not how I pictured Hell on earth

[AlteredEgo]

this may be a stupid question but what's the difference between armageddon and apocalypse?
an apocalypse involves the end of the world, armageddon involves bruce willis.

[SpideyVille]

this may be a stupid question but what's the difference between armageddon and apocalypse?

Well apocalypse refers to something that was once hidden, but is now revealed, which is why in some cases the final book of the bible is called either the Apocalypse or Revelation of John. It speaks of the end times, which are revealed to John through a vision from God.

Armageddon, which is something written as Har-Magedon, and is also known as "Mount of Megiddo", which in biblical terms refers to the site of the final battle between God/Jesus and Satan.

Basically, Apocalypse refres to the times (end of times), while Armageddon refers the actual end.

[Fresh Prince]

Bruce Campbell should play GOD. He just fits the role.

[iamlegend]

Well of course, since he made everything, things will always turn out how he intends them to.

I'll be interested to see if they delve into some of the other tellings of the Apocalypse... Hell, the 4 Horsemen are empowered by God in some adaptations.

[Prison Mike]

an apocalypse involves the end of the world, armageddon involves bruce willis.

Well apocalypse refers to something that was once hidden, but is now revealed, which is why in some cases the final book of the bible is called either the Apocalypse or Revelation of John. It speaks of the end times, which are revealed to John through a vision from God.

Armageddon, which is something written as Har-Magedon, and is also known as "Mount of Megiddo", which in biblical terms refers to the site of the final battle between God/Jesus and Satan.

Basically, Apocalypse refres to the times (end of times), while Armageddon refers the actual end.

thank you both. :yay:

[Sawyer]

Bruce Campbell should play GOD. He just fits the role.

Why am I not surprised...

[Prison Mike]

Why am I not surprised...

you called it!

[Fresh Prince]

Well apocalypse refers to something that was once hidden, but is now revealed, which is why in some cases the final book of the bible is called either the Apocalypse or Revelation of John. It speaks of the end times, which are revealed to John through a vision from God.

Armageddon, which is something written as Har-Magedon, and is also known as "Mount of Megiddo", which in biblical terms refers to the site of the final battle between God/Jesus and Satan.

Basically, Apocalypse refres to the times (end of times), while Armageddon refers the actual end.

Did they say when Armageddon is suppose to occur? Like what year?

[Fresh Prince]

Why am I not surprised...

Hahaha yeah I read what you said on the other page and thought it be funny and cool to say that. But foreal Bruce Campbell would be perfect for it.

[enterthemadness]

Did they say when Armageddon is suppose to occur? Like what year?

Hopefully it isn't in 2012 or during my lift time.

[Orb]

that looks like an awesome episode, but from the picture, it's not how I pictured Hell on earth
They have a very low budget.

[iamlegend]

Did they say when Armageddon is suppose to occur? Like what year?

Well a lot of folks think that it's all a bunch of crap and that there is no Apocalypse, no Armageddon, and no God or Satan.

Others think we're living in the end-times right now.

All depends on where you rest your faith. We won't really know who's right and who's wrong until something does (or doesn't) go down.

[Fresh Prince]

Well a lot of folks think that it's all a bunch of crap and that there is no Apocalypse, no Armageddon, and no God or Satan.

Others think we're living in the end-times right now.

All depends on where you rest your faith. We won't really know who's right and who's wrong until something does (or doesn't) go down.

Why? Cause of the bad economy we in? Country been in worst situations before, like in 1929.

[Fresh Prince]

Hopefully it isn't in 2012 or during my lift time.

I personally think it be cool. And that 2012 stuff is just bull crap. They said in 2000 the world was suppose to end.

[iamlegend]

Why? Cause of the bad economy we in? Country been in worst situations before, like in 1929.

I don't know, you'd have to ask them. There are plenty of theories going around if you look hard enough.

Like I said, all depends on where your faith rests.

[Fresh Prince]

I don't know, you'd have to ask them. There are plenty of theories going around if you look hard enough.

Like I said, all depends on where your faith rests.

Okay.

[amazingfantasy15]

Loved the introduction of War, wow, second episode and we're already seeing the first horsemen. Show's really not pulling punches this year.

[The Apatow Crew]

Loved the introduction of War, wow, second episode and we're already seeing the first horsemen. Show's really not pulling punches this year.Well, if this really the final season, I don't expect them to hold anything back.

[iamlegend]

Loved the introduction of War, wow, second episode and we're already seeing the first horsemen. Show's really not pulling punches this year.

Well, from a storytelling perspective, it almost had to be done.

We've heard all about this big bad Apocalypse and all the evil things it'd bring. And we saw Lucifer.

But we hadn't seen anything really break bad yet. And neither had Sam or Dean.

So they had to have something early in the season to affirm that, for all intents and purposes, this sh** was real.

Hence, a Horseman of the Apocalypse shows up. A minor Demon, or evil a relatively powerful Demon wouldn't have sufficed for the "Prove it's going to get really ugly" role, because the boys have faced threats like that before.

War had to happen.

[BlackLantern]

well in Revelations (I know the show doesn't follow a line) War is actually the second Horsemen to be unleashed

[The Apatow Crew]

Supernatural Season 5 Episode 3 Clip, Trailer (http://www.shocktilyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=11916#)

Below you'll find both a teaser trailer and clip from this week's upcoming 3rd episode (http://www.shocktilyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=11916#) of Supernatural Season 5, the CW hit series starring Jensen Ackles & Jared Padalecki. The episode "Free to Be You and Me" airs this Thursday September 24th 9PM Eastern (8PM Central).

Episode Synopsis: Not sure he trusts himself, Sam decides to give up hunting and goes off on his own. But that night, a late-night visitor tells Sam that he won't let him off the hook that easily. Dean, intent on stopping the Apocalypse, continues hunting on his own and teams up with Castiel to find the Archangel Raphael since Castiel believes Raphael knows the location of God's vessel on Earth.
http://www.shocktilyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=11916

[Gmanofsteel]

So wait....God has to have a vessel to be on earth? :rolleyes:

[The Apatow Crew]

So wait....God has to have a vessel to be on earth? :rolleyes:Yes, they said all Angels need one. And i guess you could call him an angel.

[Nivek]

So, who should play God's Vessel on earth? It shouldn't be just any old actor...

- Bruce Campbell
- Lance Henrickson
- Ozzy Osborne
- Sylvester Stallone
- Lemmy

I vote Lemmy, then follow that up with Bruce.

[Sawyer]

Terry O'Quinn

[BlackLantern]

any ethereal being needs a human vessel....angel or demon

[BlackLantern]

God should be a very unassuming guy IMO...like that accountant in the Untouchables

[Kaleb]

I just caught a promo of the next episode, I love that

Dean plans to get Cass laid :hehe:

[Nivek]

"Who would win in a fight, Lemmy or God?"

"Uh, God?"

"Bzztt! Wrong dirtwipe, Lemmy IS God!"

[Nivek]

*edit*

[Orb]

Who else wants to see the Headless Horsemen?

[spideyboy_1111]

Who else wants to see the Headless Horsemen?

i miss alot of there urban legend episodes... i'd like to see more pop up

[Orb]

i miss alot of there urban legend episodes... i'd like to see more pop up
Well there will be a Tooth Fairy episode.

[spideyboy_1111]

So, who should play God's Vessel on earth? It shouldn't be just any old actor...

- Bruce Campbell
- Lance Henrickson
- Ozzy Osborne
- Sylvester Stallone
- Lemmy

I vote Lemmy, then follow that up with Bruce.

seriously? :huh: :o lame

[wiegeabo]

Lance Henrickson would make a pretty cool god.

But I like what Kripke does. He makes all the big name demons and angels regular people. All he worries about is getting good actors, even if nobody's heard of them, and getting believable performances for his characters.


I'll say this, being able to put on your resumé "God" is awesome. ;)

[Eklypze]

"Who would win in a fight, Lemmy or God?"

"Uh, God?"

"Bzztt! Wrong dirtwipe, Lemmy IS God!"


:bow: Have to say it but you are a referencing god for that one! Me and my friends text each other back n forth with obscure movie references and thatll be a good one to stomp them.

My friend sent me "My lucky stars its a negro!" The other day from Blast from the Past and I literally spit my drink out.

[Orb]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/Heat-Z/a9e07c7793a899839c63dbc3d457440a.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/Heat-Z/ba529fc2421875a1e8c846fb266ca6fb.jpg
More here:http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2009/09/supernatural-episode-504-end.html

[BlackLantern]

and they're just going to get tacos

[The FallenAngel]

Is...is that Castiel with a beard?

Awesome.

[Orb]

Can't wait for this!

[Nivek]

seriously? :huh: :o lame

Your dead to me. :dry:

[BlackLantern]

I agree with spideyboy...it should be someone you would never expect to be god

[Nivek]

:bow: Have to say it but you are a referencing god for that one! Me and my friends text each other back n forth with obscure movie references and thatll be a good one to stomp them.

My friend sent me "My lucky stars its a negro!" The other day from Blast from the Past and I literally spit my drink out.


Thank you.

But I guess Kripe would have to be as big of a metalhead and fan of that film to acknowledge that homage. Or just a Moterhead fan.

Here's a couple more, getting a bit more crazy...

Chuck Norris (The Dean character seems like a Chuck Norris fan type)
Carl Weathers
Danny Trejo
Henry Winkler (The Fonz playing God, c'mon!?!)
Mr. T

[Nivek]

I agree with spideyboy...it should be someone you would never expect to be god


No way, this show is about characters, I want God to be someone guys like Sam & especially Dean would respect. Besides, not like what I'm suggesting would ever happen.

[BlackLantern]

then you obviously don't understand storytelling and gravitas

[Nivek]

No, I'm just playing man.

[BlackLantern]

Peter Dinklage should be god

[Fresh Prince]

Lance Henrickson would make a pretty cool god.

But I like what Kripke does. He makes all the big name demons and angels regular people. All he worries about is getting good actors, even if nobody's heard of them, and getting believable performances for his characters.


I'll say this, being able to put on your resumé "God" is awesome. ;)

Guess thats how Morgan Freemen got into the new Batman movies lol.

[BlackLantern]

Morgan Freeman has plenty of other impressive film credits that probably got him the batman job....

[Fresh Prince]

Thank you.

But I guess Kripe would have to be as big of a metalhead and fan of that film to acknowledge that homage. Or just a Moterhead fan.

Here's a couple more, getting a bit more crazy...

Chuck Norris (The Dean character seems like a Chuck Norris fan type)
Carl Weathers
Danny Trejo
Henry Winkler (The Fonz playing God, c'mon!?!)
Mr. T

Ratings sky rocket if Chuck Norris played GOD.

[Fresh Prince]

Morgan Freeman has plenty of other impressive film credits that probably got him the batman job....

I was joking about the GOD part. Did you notice the lol at the end of the sentence? He was in great films like Lean on Me and Se7en.

[Ghostvirus]

I really hope some of you aren't serious about your suggestions on who should play god.

[Prison Mike]

I'm sure they're partly serious but play it off with a :oldrazz:

[wiegeabo]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/Heat-Z/a9e07c7793a899839c63dbc3d457440a.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/Heat-Z/ba529fc2421875a1e8c846fb266ca6fb.jpg
More here:http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2009/09/supernatural-episode-504-end.html

Hot ****! Cas is packin' heat! :word:


"My name is Castiel. I kick ass for the Lord."

[BlackLantern]

I was serious about Dinklage....very underestimated actor IMO

[Savage]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/Heat-Z/a9e07c7793a899839c63dbc3d457440a.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/Heat-Z/ba529fc2421875a1e8c846fb266ca6fb.jpg
More here:http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2009/09/supernatural-episode-504-end.html

CROATOAN! Now it makes sense! :woot:...I-I think. :woot:

EDIT: Just noticed the grim reaper spray painted. I'M RIGHT! :D

[Fresh Prince]

Thank you.

But I guess Kripe would have to be as big of a metalhead and fan of that film to acknowledge that homage. Or just a Moterhead fan.

Here's a couple more, getting a bit more crazy...

Chuck Norris (The Dean character seems like a Chuck Norris fan type)
Carl Weathers
Danny Trejo
Henry Winkler (The Fonz playing God, c'mon!?!)
Mr. T

A mexican GOD be awesome.

[BlackLantern]

Michael Hogan (Saul Tigh from BSG) would be great for god

[wiegeabo]

Michael Hogan (Saul Tigh from BSG) would be great for god

A disgruntled, pissed off God.


Oh, damn, that would be good. Probably how Dean imagines him anyway.

[Sawyer]

Michael Hogan (Saul Tigh from BSG) would be great for god

:wow:

Tigh is the one, true God. BSG fans would crap themselves.

[Ghostvirus]

I think Donald Sutherland would be cool.

But the one just for funsies. Javier Bardem.

[haephestus]

I'd be keen to see Supernatural's version of "God" as something other than an older man.

An older woman would be cool. Not hugely different, but at least a little unique. And I'd like to see Dean and Sam interacting with an older, authoratative female character. Or they could make her an incredibly maternal and "grand-motherly" type. A child could also be cool (although they already mined that "drama" with Lilith and I wouldn't expect them to repeat it). Or could "God" possess an animal?

Cheers.

[Colossal Spoons]

The hell does Castiel have a gun? I know he only has a few powers but that just looks wrong :facepalm:

Can't believe they fought a Horseman last week. I can't wait for Pestilence. :eek:

[BlackLantern]

well they didn't really fight him per se....I'm sure we'll see him again....in the Bible and other texts, Pestilence is actually the first horsemen to appear, War is the second

[Captain_BluTac]

I'd be keen to see Supernatural's version of "God" as something other than an older man.

An older woman would be cool. Not hugely different, but at least a little unique. And I'd like to see Dean and Sam interacting with an older, authoratative female character. Or they could make her an incredibly maternal and "grand-motherly" type. A child could also be cool (although they already mined that "drama" with Lilith and I wouldn't expect them to repeat it). Or could "God" possess an animal?

Cheers.

I can't stop imagining Betty White as god now... it's kinda bizarre.

[wiegeabo]

well they didn't really fight him per se....I'm sure we'll see him again....in the Bible and other texts, Pestilence is actually the first horsemen to appear, War is the second

But it's not like has to stick to the Bible. Although, he did when Dean figured out who War was. Besides, War was just the first they encountered. Not necessarily the first to come. All four could be wrecking havoc.

[BlackLantern]

you are correct....I wasn't thinking that way....it should be interesting though...War rides a red horse, Pestilence rides a white horse, Famine a black horse, and Death a pale or pale green

[wiegeabo]

I wonder if they'll all drive Mustangs. Maybe one of them will roll up in a Pinto. :p

[X-Ray]

The hell does Castiel have a gun? I know he only has a few powers but that just looks wrong :facepalm:

Can't believe they fought a Horseman last week. I can't wait for Pestilence. :eek:

Looks wrong but would make sense. Not sure how far into the future Dean has jumped. But if it's 5 to 10 years. I can see Cas having used up all his juice by then (mainly against powerful demons and angels) and now having to resort to bullets. Or maybe he still has some juice left but he saves it for the biggies and uses AKs on the infected humans.

[Savage]

I wonder if they'll all drive Mustangs. Maybe one of them will roll up in a Pinto. :p

I'm kind of hoping for their true forms to be more classical look but mustangs and motorcycles would work just fine. Any other vehicles with horse themes?

[BlackLantern]

I believe Kripke has said they all drive muscle cars

[wiegeabo]

I'm kind of hoping for their true forms to be more classical look but mustangs and motorcycles would work just fine. Any other vehicles with horse themes?

Hmm...

Bronco
Charger
Ranger
Colt

[Savage]

lol Not exactly muscle cars. Hmm Guess they're just gonna go with whatever looks good. Unless they're all driving Mustangs and Chargers. Think they carpool?

[Ghostvirus]

LOL! Scariest carpool evahh!

[Prison Mike]

they should drive hybrids. They want to cause havoc, but they should do it in an enviroment-friendly way.

[Orb]

In this picture, in the background it says, "Now Playing Route 666"
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/Heat-Z/2ce7eaf05f21f3544345099b33714ce7.jpg

[BlackLantern]

In this picture, in the background it says, "Now Playing Route 666"
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/Heat-Z/2ce7eaf05f21f3544345099b33714ce7.jpg

Where the **** is that taco place??

[Orb]

New episode tonight!

[The Apatow Crew]

First Photos from Supernatural Eps. 4 "The End"

"The End" is near. We've received a handful of photos from the forthcoming Supernatural season 5 episode titled just that: "The End." The Steve Boyum-directed and Ben Edlund-penned chapter, starring Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki, airs at 9pm on The CW Thursday, October 1. Here's the plot crunch!

Sam tells Dean he wants to rejoin him in the battle of the Apocalypse. Dean tells Sam that they are better off apart in fighting evil on their own terms. Later, Dean awakens five years in the future in an abandoned city. There he is attacked by humans who have been infected with a demonic virus that turns humans into mindless, flesh-eating zombies. Zachariah appears to Dean and explains that this is the world that exists as a result of Dean refusing to help the angels fighting Lucifer. Dean meets up with a future Dean, who tells him that the virus is the Devil's endgame for destroying mankind.http://www.shocktilyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=11950

There are some pics there we've seen already and some other new ones.

[Orb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-6iz9RpOeA
To get excited.

[The Apatow Crew]

Lucifer returns!

[Orb]

Yay! Can't wait.

[ChaoticPsylocke]

Omg tonight will be soooo awesome! I love thursday!

[Orb]

Any of you guys read Supernatural Origins and Supernatural Rising Son?

[taboo]

I really think this show flys under the radar of a lot of people.Which is such a shame...more people need to watch this show!!

[SpideyVille]

LMAOOOO... "Eat it, Twilight"...great line

[darkseid26]

and be a simple kind of man! :o , great tune.


Edit: wtf, my local station cut out right in the middle of sam and boobys conversation!

[Colossal Spoons]

This show makes me google the names of angels and creatures furiously lol

[Prison Mike]

they're really tormenting Sam this season. I feel bad for him. :csad:

[The Guardian]

Cas and Dean together are comedy gold lol!!!:lmao:

[PeteVenkman]

Cas is such a great character.

Hey, i missed last weeks episode, why does Cas have Dean's necklace?

[darkseid26]

anyone else think Cas is starting to sound like bale's batman?

[Colossal Spoons]

Taking an angel to a strip club? This is ridiculous lol

[Colossal Spoons]

Hey, i missed last weeks episode, why does Cas have Dean's necklace?

It glows when in God's presence

[SpideyVille]

Cas and Dean together are comedy gold lol!!!:lmao:
The Adventures of Dean and Cas :up:

[Prison Mike]

this is such a great episode

[Fresh Prince]

Taking an angel to a strip club? This is ridiculous lol

Yeah that scene was funny.

[Morg]

Taking an angel to a strip club? This is ridiculous lol

Only Dean thinks it's a good idea :hehe:

[darkseid26]

Cas is such a badass :awesome:

[Prison Mike]

I still think it was God who brought Cas back...

[PeteVenkman]

it was like you could see Dean trying to find something more badass to say to Raphael, and then realizing that nothing could top Cas's line.

[Captain_BluTac]

I still think it was God who brought Cas back...

Cas said last episode that he believes it was god who brought him back and put Sam and Dean on that plane.

[SpideyVille]

What was up with Sam's tattoo in the beginning of the episode?

[darkseid26]

:wow: At ending!

[Fresh Prince]

Wow Lucifer is a true badass man.

[Prison Mike]

oh man. Sam is the true vessel for Lucifer! and judging from next week's preview, Lucifer does inhabit Sam!

[O'Haire]

Yet another great episode. Great ending. I really can't wait to see how this season ends.

Next weeks is going to be awesome.

LMAOOOO... "Eat it, Twilight".


I laughed for like 5 minutes after he said that.

:hehe:

[The Guardian]

WOW, I did not see that coming, even though I should have, awesome episode!!!:eek::eek::eek::D

[Fresh Prince]

oh man. Sam is the true vessel for Lucifer! and judging from next week's preview, Lucifer does inhabit Sam!

I feel bad for the guy being the vessel of the most baddest man on the planet.

[Prison Mike]

I feel bad for the guy being the vessel of the most baddest man on the planet.

it seems like this season will be tormenting Sam just like Dean was tormented last season.

[darkseid26]

lol, at Cas and the orgy next episode.

[Prison Mike]

Cas is like a hippie in the future. lol

[Fresh Prince]

it seems like this season will be tormenting Sam just like Dean was tormented last season.

Cannot say Sam does not deserve it.

Seems like Dean trying to down play his anger at Sam. He know deep down isnide he still love his brotha.

[The Guardian]

it was like you could see Dean trying to find something more badass to say to Raphael, and then realizing that nothing could top Cas's line.

I'm telling you man they are comedy gold together lol!!!:lmao:

Dean: "Yeah, what he said!!!":lmao:

[Colossal Spoons]

Wow


wow

[Knives122]

This was really my favorite show on tv right now, but now I think it could go down as my favorite show ever. Dean and Sam fighting each other as Michael and Lucifer? It's honestly a dream come true.

I'm rooting for Dean :awesome:

[AIRWOLF]

It was an awesome episode. Cas is so funny and so cool. Would like to see Dean & Cas continue their partnership. Also, I still think it was god who brought Cas back, but it won't be surprising if it was lucifer either. Not too surprising that Sam turned out to be devil's vessel, I have a feeling Sam will be possessed: temporarily maybe.

Dean: "Cas, we have talked about this. Personal space..." lol :D

[Orb]

Awesome episode! Cas and Dean were funny! Lucifer was...I don't know!

[Venom160]

What was up with Sam's tattoo in the beginning of the episode?It prevents demons from possessing the wearer. Dean has one as well.

[Colossal Spoons]

I hope this isn't gonna be like Dogma, where God is trapped in a vessel and can't get out.

[The FallenAngel]

Great episode.

I am now a big fan of Mark Pellegrino. :up:

[Prison Mike]

Cannot say Sam does not deserve it.

Seems like Dean trying to down play his anger at Sam. He know deep down isnide he still love his brotha.

to be fair, he thought he was preventing the apocalypse, not starting it...

[AIRWOLF]

to be fair, he thought he was preventing the apocalypse, not starting it...

Yes but was putting his trust in a demon and not his own brother. So I think he does deserve some punishment for that.

[Savage]

Top notch ep and looking forward to the next. :up: Someone called Sam and Dean being vessels for Lucifer and Michael ages ago and they were right on the money. You just know Supernatural's going to end with Sam and Dean screwing the two over.

[Fresh Prince]

This was really my favorite show on tv right now, but now I think it could go down as my favorite show ever. Dean and Sam fighting each other as Michael and Lucifer? It's honestly a dream come true.

I'm rooting for Dean :awesome:

You saying Sam might turn evil and fight Dean at the end? That would be great and I like Dean, he is my fav character, so rotting for him too.

[Knives122]

You saying Sam might turn evil and fight Dean at the end? That would be great and I like Dean, he is my fav character, so rotting for him too.

For some reason the way this show ends makes me think very much of how Angel ended; with a cliff hanger. Sacrifice has always been a big thing in this show and Lucifer may find a way to convince Sam with him being betrayed by his family(god). I don't know about Dean but he may be duped by Michael into thinking he can save his brother.(am I fanficing?)

Like I said, the future ep will be very helpful in figuring out how this will turn out.

[Prison Mike]

I think the future episode will make Dean realize that he needs Sam with him to defeat Lucifer. Also, Dean's rejection of Sam may cause Sam to say "yes" to Lucifer so he can be the vessel.

[iamlegend]

I think the future episode will make Dean realize that he needs Sam with him to defeat Lucifer. Also, Dean's rejection of Sam may cause Sam to say "yes" to Lucifer so he can be the vessel.

I feel like it'd be more of something like Sam eventually caving simply because he (and Dean) find out someway or somehow that the only way to end it... is to have a Michael/Satan smackdown via vessel.

I'm sure they'd do it up real emotional like.

[Fresh Prince]

For some reason the way this show ends makes me think very much of how Angel ended; with a cliff hanger. Sacrifice has always been a big thing in this show and Lucifer may find a way to convince Sam with him being betrayed by his family(god). I don't know about Dean but he may be duped by Michael into thinking he can save his brother.(am I fanficing?)

Like I said, the future ep will be very helpful in figuring out how this will turn out.

I like it better if it was Dean vs. Sam, and Sam just sacrifices himself to save mankind. That be epic and emotional man.

[Ghostvirus]

I going to bet that when god is found then Dean with become God's Vessel instead of Michael's. Making the brothers God V.S. Satan.

[KnightBat]

Does anyone else think that the girl Sam met in the bar is God?

[Sawyer]

Does anyone else think that the girl Sam met in the bar is God?

I actually thought she was Meg at first.

[SpideyVille]

Does anyone else think that the girl Sam met in the bar is God?
That is indeed rather interesting

[KnightBat]

That is indeed rather interesting

The things she was saying about redemption and that it was never too late to change who you are, just screamed God to me. If it was indeed God who saved Dean, Sam, and Cas, it would make sense that God wants them working together. However, it could be misdirection from Kripke.

[Lighthouse]

I always had a feeling it would be coming to this. The series really couldn't end any other way then brother facing brother.

[Sawyer]

I kinda had to say "Go **** yourself" a little to Dean saying he never had any fun with Sam. They had plenty of good times.... :csad:

[Lighthouse]

I kinda had to say "Go **** yourself" a little to Dean saying he never had any fun with Sam. They had plenty of good times.... :csad:

I usually like Dean's dick attitude, because he's usually right, but for some reason I found it really irritating this episode. I kept hoping Castiel would slap him.

[Sawyer]

I usually like Dean's dick attitude, because he's usually right, but for some reason I found it really irritating this episode. I kept hoping Castiel would slap him.

Well, he's usually a likeable dick, but this episode, I was kinda like "Dude... get over yourself."

[AlteredEgo]

eh it's all a front. :o of course he misses sam, he can tell himself whatever he wants, but he's his goddamn brother, nothing changes that.

[Kent]

I going to bet that when god is found then Dean with become God's Vessel instead of Michael's. Making the brothers God V.S. Satan.

Following the reasoning for the vessels so far, if God was to have a vessel, wouldn't it make more sense for it to be John?

[Knives122]

Know what I just noticed in this episode that they seemed to make pretty apparent twice? Angels can contact their respective vessels even if they don't know where they are.

Micheal's going to show up in one form or another and maybe finally we won't get a dick angel like every other one that's shown up(really hoping the leader of God's army isn't a douche)

[Metamorpho1977]

The things she was saying about redemption and that it was never too late to change who you are, just screamed God to me. If it was indeed God who saved Dean, Sam, and Cas, it would make sense that God wants them working together. However, it could be misdirection from Kripke.

I had the same feeling too. As soon as she said there's no too far for forgiveness or something like that, I was like Sam just found God.

[AIRWOLF]

Well, he's usually a likeable dick, but this episode, I was kinda like "Dude... get over yourself."


Same here. But being a big brother myself, I can relate to how he must feel every time he's with Sam. The sense of responsibility is too great when it comes to protecting your family and it isn't any easier when you're out doing this kind of job: hunting demons and vampires.

Following the reasoning for the vessels so far, if God was to have a vessel, wouldn't it make more sense for it to be John?

More appropriately, if he needs a vessel why bother possessing some random dude, why not just create a custom "meat suit"?

[Prison Mike]

I kind of had a feeling that Lucifer would come in the form of Jessica but I really wanted it to be the real Jessica. Maybe Jessica came down from heaven to give Sam a motivational speech.

Also, I'm surprised Cas didn't question Dean's attitude toward Sam. I thought he would have the same attitude as that one hunter who said we need every man we can get to face the demons and Lucifer.

[The Apatow Crew]

Who was the one who possibly said Cassiel was brought back by Lucifer.

[Prison Mike]

I still think it was God who brought Cas back. Raphael just said it to mess with Cas' head.

[Colossal Spoons]

I think God may have faked his death. So angels like Raphael would think he's dead.

[The Apatow Crew]

I still think it was God who brought Cas back. Raphael just said it to mess with Cas' head.but still, you gotta cover all ideas. i missed like the first 25 minutes of the show.:csad: What else happen?

[Prison Mike]

but still, you gotta cover all ideas. i missed like the first 25 minutes of the show.:csad: What else happen?

you missed one hell of an episode. Sam leaves and starts working at a bar. He finds some evidence of the apocalypse and calls Bobby. Bobby gets a few other hunters on the case. Sam meets a girl at the bar who's interested in him. Meanwhile, Dean and Cas set out to interrogate Raphael and find out where God is. Cas thinks he's going to die so on his last day on earth, Dean tries to get him laid. Hilarity ensues!

[The Apatow Crew]

you missed one hell of an episode. Sam leaves and starts working at a bar. He finds some evidence of the apocalypse and calls Bobby. Bobby gets a few other hunters on the case. Sam meets a girl at the bar who's interested in him. Meanwhile, Dean and Cas set out to interrogate Raphael and find out where God is. Cas thinks he's going to die so on his last day on earth, Dean tries to get him laid. Hilarity ensues!Yeah, I knew about the one part about Cas and Dean cause I saw a two minute preview. I turned on the tv and I seen Sam eating with that woman.

[DIRECTOR]

WTF

I like the guy playing Lucifer...... But Sam is the REAL VESSEL. Come on :rolleyes:, he is not believable as Lucifer.... THAT IS JUST DUMB

Oh......... I guess God wasn't who safed Sam/Dean/Cas................. i'M CALLING IT AGAIN...... IT'S JESUS

[AlteredEgo]

i don't know about saving Cas, but I definitely think that it was God who moved the boys on to the plane in the first episode now, after Lucifer was talking to Sam about "Why do you think you were in that chapel?"
He was supposed to be in the chapel when Lucifer presented himself, but God moved him. That was my interpretation at least.

[ChaoticPsylocke]

yeah thats what i think too. and i KNEW IT! lol i knew that Jessica hallucination was Lucifer. that jerk.

i wonder how long this plot will stretch into the season.

[Savage]

i don't know about saving Cas, but I definitely think that it was God who moved the boys on to the plane in the first episode now, after Lucifer was talking to Sam about "Why do you think you were in that chapel?"
He was supposed to be in the chapel when Lucifer presented himself, but God moved him. That was my interpretation at least.

Well Lucifer did kind of blow the place up. He's not going to kill his vessel upon emergence.

[DIRECTOR]

Well Lucifer did kind of blow the place up. He's not going to kill his vessel upon emergence.
exactly, plus, when they were transported to the plane, guess what was on the Tv Monitors, a cartoon of the Devil and Elmur Fudd....... now, that is Lucifer not God.......

Or it could be Jesus since he is a magician sometimes

[BlackLantern]

I don't see the Devil switching vessels for the **** of it....he broke this guy down and got him to consent

[Fresh Prince]

I usually like Dean's dick attitude, because he's usually right, but for some reason I found it really irritating this episode. I kept hoping Castiel would slap him.

Yeah Dean is aone of those *******s that everyone likes even if he is a jackass.

[DIRECTOR]

I don't see the Devil switching vessels for the **** of it....he broke this guy down and got him to consent
exactly, how is his current vessel Plan B........ I don't get it........ Mr. Mark Peepeejuice looks more like a Lucifer than Sam........

Boo writers

[Savage]

Plan B until he gets to Sam. The guy can barely contain Lucifer without exploding from the raw power. Apparently Sam can handle it.

[BlackLantern]

Sam can take it....sam can take it all

[DIRECTOR]

Plan B until he gets to Sam. The guy can barely contain Lucifer without exploding from the raw power. Apparently Sam can handle it.
that's dumb........ I'm only saying that because I like the actor Mark

[Kaleb]

I think it should be well established by now that as good as an actor Mark is he has never been on a show for longer than 5 episodes.


oh btw I just watched an episode of Nip/tuk and I can never look at Cas the same way again :(.

[BlackLantern]

I think it should be well established by now that as good as an actor Mark is he has never been on a show for longer than 5 episodes.


oh btw I just watched an episode of Nip/tuk and I can never look at Cas the same way again :(.

I love that episode....he uses his normal voice and the hair is different so I can make the disconnect

[Kaleb]

I love that episode....he uses his normal voice and the hair is different so I can make the disconnect
From what I can tell , it seems like the actor uses his normal voice in the next episode ''the end'' with that orgy scene.

[Prison Mike]

I think it should be well established by now that as good as an actor Mark is he has never been on a show for longer than 5 episodes.


oh btw I just watched an episode of Nip/tuk and I can never look at Cas the same way again :(.

that's right! he was on Nip/Tuck. Which episode was it again? What patient did he play?

I've seen the actor guest on some other shows before. The one episode of Supernatural where they show the vessel of Cas (from last season)...that's his real voice. I don't know how the actor makes his voice so deep. He must drink a lot of tea to soften it up.

[Kaleb]

that's right! he was on Nip/Tuck. Which episode was it again? What patient did he play?

I've seen the actor guest on some other shows before. The one episode of Supernatural where they show the vessel of Cas (from last season)...that's his real voice. I don't know how the actor makes his voice so deep. He must drink a lot of tea to soften it up.

He played the yogo instructor who wanted to have his Penix smaller. And I know he also played Alexis in the first season of 24.

[Prison Mike]

He played the yogo instructor who wanted to have his Penix smaller. And I know he also played Alexis in the first season of 24.

now I remember! the patients of McNamara/Troy are beyond ridiculous. But I love that show.

[Loki337]

I've been dropping PMs to the occasional person who missed an episode, but I'm just going to drop a link here because, among other things, I'm sure I don't have time to get to everyone:

http://supernatural-streaming.blogspot.com/

It's not the greatest quality, but the episodes are up the morning after they air.

[KALEL114]

Like I said before, it is plausible that Lucifer brought Cas back and "saved" Dean and Sam as well. It might just be me, but there is just something about Cas that I just don't trust right now. Don't know what it is. Whatever happens, this is shaping up to be a great season.

[AlteredEgo]

Well Lucifer did kind of blow the place up. He's not going to kill his vessel upon emergence.if he killed Sam he could just bring him back, like he said.

[Orb]

In case anybody missed it:

DufEdmhLMoc

[Sawyer]

In case anybody missed it:

DufEdmhLMoc

Awesome promo! :up:
I kinda wish they had made Future Dean a little different looking than present Dean. I couldnt really see any difference... then again, it may be because it was so quick. Maybe the actual episode will show slight differences.

[Orb]

Awesome promo! :up:
I kinda wish they had made Future Dean a little different looking than present Dean. I couldnt really see any difference... then again, it may be because it was so quick. Maybe the actual episode will show slight differences.
Well 5 years wont change a adult's look too much thou. The only thing different will be the personality. Future Dean does not make jokes and he is cold.

[Sawyer]

Well 5 years wont change a adult's look too much thou. The only thing different will be the personality. Future Dean does not make jokes and he is cold.

Well, I wasnt expecting him to look older or anything, but in a post apocalyptic world, I thought his look might change a bit.

[Orb]

I guess. Cas has changed the most.

[Savage]

that's dumb........ I'm only saying that because I like the actor Mark

You heard it from his mouth last night. Not my words. :oldrazz:

[Orb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8CNdR-F3QA:woot:

[Lighthouse]

Following the reasoning for the vessels so far, if God was to have a vessel, wouldn't it make more sense for it to be John?

I really hope God isn't personified on this show. I think it cheapens the aspect of God if you try to give him a personality, or take human form. For angels and demons I can see that, but I think God would just be way too beyond that.

Also, when Raphael was talking to Dean and Cass about God not being there, did anyone else get a Preacher vibe? Could the producers take a similar approach to God?

[enterthemadness]

This show rules. I wanna buy season 4 and 5 and the other seasons 1 day. Became a regular viewer in season 4 btw.

[wiegeabo]

Finally saw the episode this morning. Gotta say, Cas looking like he's about to **** a brick, and chugging that beer, was one of the funniest things ever. :p

[iamlegend]

exactly, plus, when they were transported to the plane, guess what was on the Tv Monitors, a cartoon of the Devil and Elmur Fudd....... now, that is Lucifer not God.......

Or it could be Jesus since he is a magician sometimes


But Lucifer directly said "That's why you were in that chapel," when he confronted Sam in the dream.

To me that implies Lucifer was planning on taking him right then and there. And if there were any real danger to Sam during the rising, Ruby would have gotten him out of there for her master.

Hence, I'm still leaning God. Plus, Raphael's excuse as to why Satan might revive Cas was really weak.

[wiegeabo]

But Lucifer directly said "That's why you were in that chapel," when he confronted Sam in the dream.

To me that implies Lucifer was planning on taking him right then and there. And if there were any real danger to Sam during the rising, Ruby would have gotten him out of there for her master.

Hence, I'm still leaning God. Plus, Raphael's excuse as to why Satan might revive Cas was really weak.

What if God saved the boys, since it sounds like Lucifer wanted to take Sam, but had to settle for Nick (remember, Yellow Eyes wanted Sam for a special reason), yet Lucifer brought Cas back for the reasons Raphael said.


And Teenage Mutant Ninja Angel is one of Dean's best ever lines.

[iamlegend]

What if God saved the boys, since it sounds like Lucifer wanted to take Sam, but had to settle for Nick (remember, Yellow Eyes wanted Sam for a special reason), yet Lucifer brought Cas back for the reasons Raphael said.


And Teenage Mutant Ninja Angel is one of Dean's best ever lines.

Because Lucifer wouldn't want to resurrect an Angel that's sympathetic to the one being that can kill him (even if it's via vessel)?

Or because there are a lot of dead Angels that he could have resurrected given the chance that would have made more sense than Cas?

[wiegeabo]

Yes, but what's the first thing Cas did when he was brought back? Killed two angels that would have fought Lucifer. And we don't know if Lucifer didn't bring back other angels or not.

But, regardless if Raph's reason is good or not, there's nothing (so far) to say he was wrong. God could have saved the boys, taking away Lucifer's vessel, while Lucifer brought back Cas hoping to be able to use him.

[enterthemadness]

Because Lucifer wouldn't want to resurrect an Angel that's sympathetic to the one being that can kill him (even if it's via vessel)?

Or because there are a lot of dead Angels that he could have resurrected given the chance that would have made more sense than Cas?

Or it could be because Cas is :awesome:

[wiegeabo]

Or it could be because Cas is :awesome:

Cas is Pac-Man?


:p

[Prison Mike]

I think Raphael was lying

[iamlegend]

Yes, but what's the first thing Cas did when he was brought back? Killed two angels that would have fought Lucifer. And we don't know if Lucifer didn't bring back other angels or not.

But, regardless if Raph's reason is good or not, there's nothing (so far) to say he was wrong. God could have saved the boys, taking away Lucifer's vessel, while Lucifer brought back Cas hoping to be able to use him.

How could Lucifer even have known Cas was dead? The way the timeline seems to work out, he was resurrected around the same time the boys made it on the airplane... and he even knew they made it to said plane. Plus, Lucifer was busy working on getting to his vessel, which Cas made plain was Objective No. 1 before he got down to business.

And while Raphael seems to be content with said explanation, it was very plain that Zachariah was petrified at the thought of an Angel being resurrected... and the Angels haven't expressed any particular fear of Lucifer yet, outside of noting that he needs to be stomped out.

[wiegeabo]

And while Raphael seems to be content with said explanation, it was very plain that Zachariah was petrified at the thought of an Angel being resurrected... and the Angels haven't expressed any particular fear of Lucifer yet, outside of noting that he needs to be stomped out.

Raph could be wrong, and just making an assumption.

But Cas thinks God saved him, and Zach and the other angels could have too. Which would explain why they took off. Their 'dead' dad is back.

[Orb]

Two more clips! Beware of spoilers!
http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2009/09/supernatural-504-end-2-more-spoiler.html

[AIRWOLF]

Raph could be wrong, and just making an assumption.

But Cas thinks God saved him, and Zach and the other angels could have too. Which would explain why they took off. Their 'dead' dad is back.

Pretty sound theory and that is exactly what I'm leaning towards. Lucifer himself stated he is an angel, and unless he possesses some sort of ultimate power that other angels don't, Zach and others have no reason to be that afraid of him.

I think this whole absence of god is part of the plan that would lead to the end of the world, you know how it is said that the whole world would be in chaos until the second coming which would be pretty close to the end.

But one thing that's questionable is that whether or not Lucifer can bring back dead angels since he too is and angel. I mean ok they (angels) are able to resurrect humans but can they really bring back to life another angel? Wouldn't that be where god comes in?

[Orb]

Maybe Archangels can do that. I mean you got to remember, he is one of the most powerful archangels.

[<(o_o)>]

What if God saved the boys, since it sounds like Lucifer wanted to take Sam, but had to settle for Nick (remember, Yellow Eyes wanted Sam for a special reason), yet Lucifer brought Cas back for the reasons Raphael said.


And Teenage Mutant Ninja Angel is one of Dean's best ever lines.

Very funny line since Angels had nothing to do with the Artists in which the turtles were named after.

[iamlegend]

Pretty sound theory and that is exactly what I'm leaning towards. Lucifer himself stated he is an angel, and unless he possesses some sort of ultimate power that other angels don't, Zach and others have no reason to be that afraid of him.

I think this whole absence of god is part of the plan that would lead to the end of the world, you know how it is said that the whole world would be in chaos until the second coming which would be pretty close to the end.

But one thing that's questionable is that whether or not Lucifer can bring back dead angels since he too is and angel. I mean ok they (angels) are able to resurrect humans but can they really bring back to life another angel? Wouldn't that be where god comes in?

The impression I'm getting is that in the show's universe, Lucifer and Michael are far, far more powerful than any other Angel in existence. Depending on your lore of choice, Lucifer was the single greatest Angel of them all.

So I think we're supposed to assume he's got all kinds of powers that even other Archangels wouldn't have. With Michael maybe being the exception.

But I don't think any Angel on Heaven's side can resurrect another Angel... cause that'd make the whole war a pretty moot point. They'd just keep coming back.

[SpideyVille]

Very funny line since Angels had nothing to do with the Artists in which the turtles were named after.
I think he was referring to Raphael the archangel having the same name as Raphael the ninja turtle, not the artist he was named after

[Orb]

Another The End promo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7inbRGrmUxU

[Kahoot]

http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs36/f/2008/266/b/3/SUPERNATURAL__Castiel_by_mafer.jpgYes, but what's the first thing Cas did when he was brought back? Killed two angels that would have fought Lucifer. And we don't know if Lucifer didn't bring back other angels or not.

But, regardless if Raph's reason is good or not, there's nothing (so far) to say he was wrong. God could have saved the boys, taking away Lucifer's vessel, while Lucifer brought back Cas hoping to be able to use him.
Can an angel bring another angel back? The way the show goes they more or less say Lucifer is no different from any other angel, he's just evil is all.

[Fresh Prince]

The impression I'm getting is that in the show's universe, Lucifer and Michael are far, far more powerful than any other Angel in existence. Depending on your lore of choice, Lucifer was the single greatest Angel of them all.

So I think we're supposed to assume he's got all kinds of powers that even other Archangels wouldn't have. With Michael maybe being the exception.

But I don't think any Angel on Heaven's side can resurrect another Angel... cause that'd make the whole war a pretty moot point. They'd just keep coming back.

So Micheal and Satan are the best angels in Supernatural universe.

And the strongest of all of them?