Just read the Official Movie Adaption Graphic Novel, wish I didn't.... [Archive]

areeves2391

07-04-2009, 02:11 PM

Well, this saved me $12 on a movie ticket. I'm still wondering how this didn't go straight to DVD..

What happens:

-Wayans has a crush on Scarlett, she winds up kissing him
-Storm Shadow gets killed by Snake Eyes
-Baroness is Cobra Commander's(The Doctor) sister
-Baroness likes to kiss everyone she sees
-Cobra Commander(The Doctor) kills Zartan
-Cobra Commander(The Doctor) possesses his soldiers with nanomites to control them, and can kill them if captured
-Destro burns his face, Cobra Commander applies the metal mas, much to Destro's chagrin.
-Final shot of The Doctor is him telling Destro to call him "Commander", while he dons a blue mask
-Destro is of Scottish ancestry, and apparently one of his ancestors is tried for treason and is forced to wear a metal mask for punishment..

Can't make this stuff up folks.

The Guard

07-04-2009, 06:08 PM

Some of that is right out of the comics and show.

Bug-Eyed Earl

07-04-2009, 06:13 PM

Well, this saved me $12 on a movie ticket. I'm still wondering how this didn't go straight to DVD..

What happens:

-Storm Shadow gets killed by Snake Eyes
-Final shot of The Doctor is him telling Destro to call him "Commander", while he dons a blue mask
-Destro is of Scottish ancestry, and apparently one of his ancestors is tried for treason and is forced to wear a metal mask for punishment..

Can't make this stuff up folks.

1. Somebody dies in a sword fight?! holy hell, I never saw taht coming.

2. Cobra Commander tells Destro to call him Commader. You're right, that's retarded.

3. Read the comics. That's EXACTLY his origin and family history. But I guess you thought he was black and bald likea lot of cartoon fans, huh? And here I always felt that saying they need to cast a bald actor as Destro is probably one fo the dumbest things a Joe fan can say. This tops that.

If your list was more of a stream of consciousness things rather than simply complaints, fine. But since it seems to be a list of complaints, I have to point out what I thought were the stupid ones.

CELTICPRED

07-04-2009, 06:28 PM

-Final shot of The Doctor is him telling Destro to call him "Commander", while he dons a blue mask

I haven't been keeping up with the production of this movie at all aside from CC, so what did the mask look like on the page?

I'm assuming he removes the clear one?

Shadow-Guardian

07-04-2009, 06:29 PM

Whoa whoa whoa. Snake Eyes KILLS Storm Shadow? WTF man?! And CC kills Zartan?!

CC dons a blue mask? Are you sure it's a BLUE mask and not the Jason X one? (even though I like it)

CELTICPRED

07-04-2009, 06:33 PM

CC dons a blue mask? Are you sure it's a BLUE mask and not the Jason X one? (even though I like it)

That's what I was curious about.

Shadow-Guardian

07-04-2009, 06:47 PM

Maybe there IS hope yet. Or maybe it was just something that was in the novel and not in the movie.

The Guard

07-04-2009, 06:50 PM

It's hardly just "Ripcord has a crush on Scarlett, she kisses him". It's not remotely that simple.

He's also distilling the nature of the Baroness. She used to be with Duke, and still has feelings for him, and she's posing as Baron DeCobray's wife, so naturally she kisses him. And he likes to mess with Destro's feelings, just like in the comics.

If Cobra Commander puts on a blue mask, I'm pretty sure people will be happy, not pissed off.

By the way, per the script, Cobra Commander doesn't kill Zartan.

He uses nanotech on him to radically alter his appearance, giving him his appearance altering power.

Iron_Stark

07-04-2009, 06:55 PM

Blade X

07-05-2009, 12:07 AM

Storm Shadow dies? EFFEN BULLSH**!!! :cmad:

Well, guess you saved me some money, I always said if SS died, I'd up and walk out of the theater, guess I don't have to go now.

Storm Shadow was also killed by Snake Eyes in G.I. JOE RESOLUTE (one of the few things that I didn't like about that series/movie).

The Guard

07-05-2009, 02:12 AM

It's a pretty open ended death, at least per the script.

Timstuff

07-05-2009, 02:26 AM

If they bring Storm Shadow back I hope it's not until near the end of the second movie, at the earliest. At the latest, it should be in the third film.

areeves2391

07-05-2009, 07:18 AM

Whoa whoa whoa. Snake Eyes KILLS Storm Shadow? WTF man?! And CC kills Zartan?!

CC dons a blue mask? Are you sure it's a BLUE mask and not the Jason X one? (even though I like it)

The novel didn't show Snake Eyes actually KILLING him, but they are having a sword fight, and the next thing you see after a couple of other panels is Snake Eyes looking down, and Storm Shadow floating in a pool of blood and water behind him, face down.

Yes, it was a Blue Mask for CC, not THE blue mask, but A blue mask.

And, yes, I'm pretty sure CC killed Zartan.

Shadow-Guardian

07-05-2009, 08:23 AM

Storm Shadow'll be back. They wouldn't kill him off like that so soon. He'll probably be back as a good guy next time around. And are there any pics/panels of CC's blue mask? What does it look like?

areeves2391

07-05-2009, 08:40 PM

Storm Shadow'll be back. They wouldn't kill him off like that so soon. He'll probably be back as a good guy next time around. And are there any pics/panels of CC's blue mask? What does it look like?

It looks like Destro's helmet, except blue, and it has eye cutouts, so you can see CC's eyes and a little bit of skin around it, similiar to how Dr.Doom's eyes look like in his mask.

CELTICPRED

07-05-2009, 08:44 PM

Better than the clear mask I guess...

areeves2391

07-05-2009, 09:45 PM

Guys, I want you to remember that what is in the Graphic Novel adaption is not always what will be in the final film version.

For instance:
The Transformers 2 graphic novel's final panels had Megatron back in the Decepticon lair building his army for Transformers 3, promising his revenge.

That wasn't in the film.

CelticPredator

07-06-2009, 01:03 AM

Might've been in the script.....cut for money.

Shadow-Guardian

07-06-2009, 08:03 AM

Can you post a pic of it? And does it look like the neo-viper helmets? I recall a long time ago there was a pic of a helmet that everybody thought was CC's helmet, but ended up looking like the viper helmets. Does it look like that?

terry78

07-06-2009, 10:26 AM

I LOL'd way too hard at the gripe about Destro being a Scot. Lordy.

The Guard

07-06-2009, 01:09 PM

Yeah, that was pretty funny.

Shadow-Guardian

07-06-2009, 01:15 PM

"How dare they stick as close to the comics as possible! Those bastards!"

ih8nyy

07-06-2009, 01:24 PM

"How dare they stick as close to the comics as possible! Those bastards!"

:hehe:

TheVileOne

07-06-2009, 02:48 PM

If only that were the case, than this movie wouldn't look so terrible.

areeves2391

07-07-2009, 12:32 AM

Yeah, I didn't know Destro's comic book origin....grew up with the toys and cartoon....I just remember Destro as a badass.

Anyways, I re-read the adaption today, and realized a couple errors from my original report:

-CC DOES NOT kill Zartan, he injects him with nanobots, and tells him that he is going to make him the most powerful man in the world, or something, Zartan then undergoes a horrible, painful, transformation that makes Destro cringe.

-Snake Eyes is actually standing over the floating, bloodied Storm Shadow, with blood on his sword.

And, to add a couple things:

-Duke is taken prisoner by Cobra, where Baroness proceeds to try to free him after kissing him, but CC intervenes, takes his doctor mask off(revealing his face) :bh:, turns out that Duke knows him somehow, maybe from childhood, Duke knows Baroness is CC's sister, and on the verge of CC killing Baroness, Destro takes a flamethrower to disrupt the proceedings, Duke fires a shot, which hits the flamethrower, burns Destro's face, and then Duke escapes, with Baroness, "saving her" :huh:

-Last shots: CC in his blue mask telling Destro to call him Commander, Baroness in G.I.Joe captivity, and some random shot of a white President congratulating the Joes.

The Guard

07-07-2009, 10:35 AM

I don't think you read it very closely at all, or you'd know exactly where Duke knows The Doctor from. It isn't childhood. And it's no random shot of The President.

Per the script, that's Destro

Symbiotic

07-07-2009, 04:07 PM

How do Duke and The Doctor know each other?

TheVileOne

07-07-2009, 05:01 PM

In the script, Doctor/CC/Rex is a former soldier and friend of Duke's. Duke was engaged Baroness who is Rex's sister.

Bug-Eyed Earl

07-07-2009, 06:21 PM

In the script, Doctor/CC/Rex is a former soldier and friend of Duke's. Duke was engaged Baroness who is Rex's sister.

Meaning the Baroness is American- the siblings' names are Ana and Rex Lewis. She marries the French Baron DeCobray to get the Baroness title. Seriously, people, making the Baroness European (preferably Czech) is the easiest thing in the world to get right.:whatever:

Bug-Eyed Earl

07-07-2009, 06:25 PM

CelticPredator

07-07-2009, 06:27 PM

I don't think you read it very closely at all, or you'd know exactly where Duke knows The Doctor from. It isn't childhood. And it's no random shot of The President.

Per the script, that's Destro

No...Zartan.

terry78

07-07-2009, 07:02 PM

Personally, I would love to see Wayans' reaction in interviews if they cut the kiss- I can see it happening because I can't imagine them having good chemistry. You know if it did Wayans would play the race card in interviews.

That would actually be the time to play the card, as there have been way too many instances in flicks where kisses have been cut or completely avoided when dude is black and the chick is white.

TheVileOne

07-07-2009, 07:35 PM

That would actually be the time to play the card, as there have been way too many instances in flicks where kisses have been cut or completely avoided when dude is black and the chick is white.
terry78, there are more instances now where Hollywood will refuse to pair up a black star with another black star because then it would be too black for mainstream audiences.

Its not a valid complaint. Its not a canon pairing. Ripcord is a terrible character in this movie, and they paired up these two because they weren't creative enough to make Snake Eyes/Scarlett work. So they are faked out the audience by saying at conventions that there are TWO LOVE TRIANGLES.

CelticPredator

07-07-2009, 07:43 PM

Hancock cut out the kiss scene between Smith and Theron. Why? Because they did.

The Guard

07-07-2009, 07:50 PM

Zartan.

Yes, yes. Zartan.

AnorexicBatman

07-08-2009, 01:52 PM

Something I thought I would never say about this film...

This actually looks... GREAT!

I mean wow... the back stories are pretty much what's in the comics...

terry78

07-08-2009, 03:00 PM

Figs

07-08-2009, 03:37 PM

I was planning on seeing this film just from watching the trailers since I never got into the comics and only grew up with the cartoon and figures.

I have to say after reading all of your posts with descriptions about the film I'm actuall a bit excited for this movie. I think it's because I was never expecting greatness out of it and I think it will be a fun time.

Da-Scribe

07-08-2009, 03:42 PM

I don't think I have any expectations. Just looking for a good action flick I guess. Joe was my older brothers' generation, not so much my own.

Sidenote: Greatest avatar of all time Figs.

Figs

07-08-2009, 03:47 PM

I don't think I have any expectations. Just looking for a good action flick I guess. Joe was my older brothers' generation, not so much my own.

Sidenote: Greatest avatar of all time Figs.

Thanks! :)I also don't want to get my hopes up about what people are saying is in the novelization regarding CC putting on what sounds like his traditional mask. Things differ all the time with novelizations and the films they're based on.

Shadow-Guardian

07-08-2009, 04:54 PM

Someone seriously needs to post that blue CC mask pic. I'm dying to know what it looks like.

The Guard

07-08-2009, 05:59 PM

Bug-Eyed Earl

07-09-2009, 07:36 AM

terry78, there are more instances now where Hollywood will refuse to pair up a black star with another black star because then it would be too black for mainstream audiences.

Off the subject of GI Joe, I'm going to have to call BS on that. When's the last time you saw a heavily advertised movie with a white/black pairing where the race wasn't the main thrust of the plot? Even Will Smith has said that studios have problems doing that, and that casting a Latina love interest in Hitch was a compromise:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7019342/

Silver Knight

07-09-2009, 01:40 PM

Stom Shadow dies? Dang! Was the fight good at least?

Raiden

07-09-2009, 02:08 PM

I am halfway through the comic adaptation which is at Borders as well. It has humor, but it's not as full of it as TF is, if the book is an indication. Ripcord cracks jokes, but mostly it's to impress Scarlett...when he's in the field, he's competent. It actually gets pretty gory a few times for a PG-13 flick.

I don't like the whole Ripcord & Scarlett relationship thing...I hope it won't happen. If Scarlett is going to hook up with someone, it should be with Snakeyes and Duke, like in the cartoon & comics.

Timstuff

07-09-2009, 02:33 PM

I don't like the whole Ripcord & Scarlett relationship thing...I hope it won't happen. If Scarlett is going to hook up with someone, it should be with Snakeyes and Duke, like in the cartoon & comics.

An MFM three way? In GI Joe!? :wow:

Anyway, I wouldn't have minded a love triangle between Scartlett, Duke, and Snake Eyes, but Ripcord just seems out of left field. Also, if Duke and Snake Eyes were having a romantic rivalry for Scarlett, I'd really hope they wouldn't take the dumb way out and go with Duke, because that pissed me off in Resolute where she pretty much openly declairs that she wants to be with Duke or no-one at all. Snake Eyes pretty much got screwed over, just like he always seems to outside the comics. It'll probably happen in the movie too, but at least there's the possibility of it being rectified in the sequels.

Jolly Rolly

07-09-2009, 03:19 PM

If Storm Shadow dies then who will Snake Eyes fight in the sequel? LOL! sequel yeah right.

terry78

07-09-2009, 05:45 PM

It could haves that whole Cyclops/Wolverine/Jean dynamic.

tamron

07-09-2009, 07:35 PM

If Storm Shadow dies then who will Snake Eyes fight in the sequel? LOL! sequel yeah right.

Seriously, I think Firefly could be set up as SE's opponent. A sequel seems highly unlikely at this juncture, but I suppose stranger things have happened.

BigCityBoy

07-09-2009, 10:37 PM

Novelizations change things...but rarely do they change THAT much. This script has been mostly set in stone from its initial drafts. The only novelization I can think of that had massive differences to the movie was X2, and that's because it was used to keep the ending of the movie secret, as were the scripts.

If the novelization says blue mask, there may well be a blue mask.

I have both the novelization and the comic adaptation. In the novelization, it describes the mask being red and black. In the comic adaptation, the mask is blue, so who knows. But the mask in the comic adaptation (as far as the look, not color) looks just like that image of the CC toy that was leaked a few months back so CC's helmet does have like a "Jason X" look to it like everyone has said.

The Guard

07-10-2009, 11:25 AM

So it's a blue version of the mask that leaked a while back?

Shadow-Guardian

07-10-2009, 11:32 AM

I wanna know if it looks like the Jason X version, or this:

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/omegawrath/GI%20JOE/mask.jpg

I know thats probably a Viper, but I've yet to see one of the vipers who's mask looks exactly like that.

That-Guy

07-10-2009, 11:58 AM

I looks exactly like the pic on the toy package that was posted a while back, only blue instead of clear. That's an improvement, I'll admit. It kind of looks like they merged the hooded look with that silver tech thing from ARAH.

Shadow-Guardian

07-10-2009, 12:03 PM

Ah. Okay. Well thats good. Does it have the Cobra symbol on it?

That-Guy

07-10-2009, 12:10 PM

No, I didn't see one. But I just flipped through the book at Barnes and Noble quickly, so I might have missed it. Or (as is the case with many graphic novel adapatations) the artist might have forgotten to draw it.

Shadow-Guardian

07-10-2009, 12:33 PM

Hmm. I gotta go pick one up. Thanks for the info though.

That-Guy

07-10-2009, 01:07 PM

No problem.

Man, with the Justin Timberlake/Green Lantern rumor cropping up today, I think my overal disdain for the G.I. Joe film has completely subsided.

Silver Knight

07-10-2009, 01:36 PM

Seriously, I think Firefly could be set up as SE's opponent. A sequel seems highly unlikely at this juncture, but I suppose stranger things have happened.
Who is Firefly?

tamron

07-10-2009, 02:12 PM

Who is Firefly?

Saboteur and mercenary. Highly elusive. Frequently hired by Cobra Commander for very important missions. A Koga ninja master in the Marvel comics.

terry78

07-10-2009, 06:40 PM

The final scene basically sets it up for a sequel, and it's actually pretty disturbing if they don't get a second movie to tie up what Zartan does.

Shadow-Guardian

07-11-2009, 01:23 PM

This movie has got everything the GA wants: Lots of explosions, hot chichk in tight leather, car chases, and ninjas. It'll def get a sequel.

Fresh Prince

07-11-2009, 02:21 PM

Whats wrong with hollywood just having races mix with other races it happens in real life dud. Just cause you white do you not you have to date a white person or vice versa for black. And Marlon Wayans atleast got to kiss a sexy women so he will not complain. He lucky to even be put in a movie like this.

But come on hollywood needs to change man. Hollywood ****ed up to the core man. Bad movies, remakes, and race problems come on! This is not the 60s anymore everyone loves each other and open about it too.

Silver Knight

07-11-2009, 02:42 PM

Can someone awnser my questions please.

Fresh Prince

07-11-2009, 05:34 PM

What is it?

Shadow-Guardian

07-11-2009, 09:11 PM

Tamron already answered.

Saboteur and mercenary. Highly elusive. Frequently hired by Cobra Commander for very important missions. A Koga ninja master in the Marvel comics.

Silver Knight

07-12-2009, 06:05 AM

Its how many times do SN and SS fight and how does the fight end.

Fresh Prince

07-12-2009, 09:52 AM

So overall was this a good movie?

3dman27

07-12-2009, 11:34 AM

i got my copy of the novelization yesterdayi'll give it a read

Silver Knight

07-12-2009, 11:35 AM

Please tell me how many times SE and SS fight and if the fight is good.

Thanks.

ClintF

07-13-2009, 08:44 AM

No problem.

Man, with the Justin Timberlake/Green Lantern rumor cropping up today, I think my overal disdain for the G.I. Joe film has completely subsided.

Ryan Reynolds has been cast to play Green Lantern, bet that was a hard decision from Warner Bros, hmmm Justin Timberlake or Ryan Reynolds:hehe:

Fresh Prince

07-13-2009, 11:04 AM

Oh lord Justin Timberlake cannot act. Whats next gonna get Usher to play the black Green Lantern John Stewart.

Fresh Prince

07-13-2009, 11:04 AM

Ryan Reynolds gonna do Deadpool what he trying to do Green Lantern for?

Silver Knight

07-13-2009, 01:37 PM

He is not trying, he WILL BE doing Green Lantern.

That-Guy

07-13-2009, 02:36 PM

Yeah, amen to that. Reynolds wasn't my first choice but I'm fine with him. If Timberlake had been cast I think I would have given up on superhero movies for good.

Kokoryu1

07-18-2009, 02:42 PM

Something I thought I would never say about this film...

This actually looks... GREAT!

I mean wow... the back stories are pretty much what's in the comics...

LOL thats funny. Your sarcasm rocks. !! On a side note, does anyone remember what happened last time an actor played two different superheroes from opposing brands? HMMM? Catwoman is what happened. Although from the " seeing Halle Barry in skin tight leather " Point it wasn't so bad. LOL! Oh And I reda that book which was almost verbatim the same script I read months ago which I kindly wiped my dogs ass with since it was just as enjoyable.

Caped Crusader

07-19-2009, 10:31 AM

Dear god, please have the hood in the movie. :(

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww290/thefallen213_2009/Commander_by_Ammotu.jpg

3dman27

07-19-2009, 01:11 PM

yeah we want old sack face to HAVE his sack

Silver Knight

07-19-2009, 01:35 PM

Someone please give me a rundown on the SE SS fight.

Timstuff

07-19-2009, 01:41 PM

Storm shadow swings his sword, Snake Eyes blocks. Snake Eyes swings his sword, Storm Shadow blocks. Storm shadow swings his sword, Snake Eyes blocks. etc.

Silver Knight

07-19-2009, 01:48 PM

Not cool dude.

deathshead2

07-19-2009, 03:23 PM

Not cool dude.
Then Storm Shadow gets stabbed and falls into the water with Snakes eyes looking above him, with only the coat with the blood stane in the water. The End.

Balthus Dire

07-19-2009, 08:10 PM

Even though I think this movie will suck, I hardly would judge it based on a graphic novel based on the film. Have you guys ever actually read a graphic novel based on a film before? Most of the time it's completely friggin different. Same with novelizations.

Just wait for the movie before you start crying.

Shadow-Guardian

07-19-2009, 09:17 PM

Someone PLEASE scan this.

Silver Knight

07-20-2009, 01:36 PM

Ditto that.

The Guard

07-20-2009, 02:04 PM

Some of these posts make it sound like Snake Eyes trips Storm Shadow and Storm Shadow falls into a puddle or something. That's not the case at all. I fully expect that sequence to be fantastic.

Balthus Dire

07-20-2009, 02:21 PM

Some of these posts make it sound like Snake Eyes trips Storm Shadow and Storm Shadow falls into a puddle or something. That's not the case at all. I fully expect that sequence to be fantastic.

Actually, he doesn't trip him...he ties his shoelaces together when he's not looking.

terry78

07-20-2009, 02:23 PM

Actually, he doesn't trip him...he ties his shoelaces together when he's not looking.

Then says "nyuk nyuk nyuk" and speeds off-screen a la some 1940's cartoon character.

LightningFlash

08-02-2009, 01:39 PM

If Storm Shadow dies then who will Snake Eyes fight in the sequel? LOL! sequel yeah right.

Transformers got a sequel, Fantastic Four got a sequel, X-Men got a sequel, Batman Forever got a sequel, Superman III got a sequel, Blade II got a sequel.

I'm pretty sure, if G.I. Joe is ANYWHERE near good, and somewhat faithful, as it seems to be, imo, then I bet my top dollar that this movie will get a greenlight for a sequel. We don't even need a trilogy, a sequel would be fine, just to follow up Zartan's "mission". The ending sounds amazing though, so I'm very much hoping for a sequel, G.I. Joe: The Reign of Cobra.

CELTICPRED

08-02-2009, 10:26 PM

I know there were questions regarding CC's mask that he puts on at the end of the film.

Found the Adaption yesterday at the comic store and looked at his last panel, the mask is basically his clear mask painted blue.

LightningFlash

08-03-2009, 02:01 AM

Well, a hood isn't always needed...and a blue mask instead of a clear one seems like a better improvement...plus, if what his last words to Destro is true, then...freakin' awesome.

http://www.millionaireplayboy.com/mpb/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/cobra_commander.jpg

And...I wouldn't call that a "hood" (^^), so this film's version shouldn't be given so much hate until seen on screen first.

People's judgment is so much harsh when they haven't even seen it firsthand.