Possible ARG/Viral Campaign

[Robbie]

No one here as figured anything out yet either, huh? I'm with Anita, the "clue" wasn't much of anything and got a bunch of people thinking this ARG was finally kicking off. I hope it starts up soon...

[I Am The Bat]

And now... again... we wait...

[roach]

if you look in Tony Stark's eyes you can see Venom

[Robbie]

if you look in Tony Stark's eyes you can see Venom

Some friends of mine were swearing up and down it was Edward Norton/Bruce Banner on the right and not Tony. It's amazing what people can see in an image. :wow:

[Aesop Rocks]

:whatever: you guys are all sorts of loopy.

It's clearly Carnage.

[Robbie]

:whatever: you guys are all sorts of loopy.

It's clearly Carnage.

Carnage is so 1990's. :whatever:

[Aesop Rocks]

Last I remember, he died in the 00's ;)

[Robbie]

Last I remember, he died in the 00's ;)

HA! Touche my friend, touche. I tip my hat to you...

[roach]

its not a clue for IM2 its a clue for the Voltron movie..."It's a lion"

[I Am The Bat]

its not a clue for IM2 its a clue for the Voltron movie..."It's a lion"

NICE THROWBACK! :applaud:

[I Am The Bat]

The anagram idea isn't working out... so I'm starting to lose hope. Though, I really don't see any other clues, what else could there be?

:(

Maybe I'll just wait for another "clue".

I think waiting is best right now

[firstmovement]

Found by ... hundreds of people ... yesterday!

In fact, here's a cropping of it:

http://www.internapse.com/gallery/d/69420-1/20.jpg

I know I'm late to this, but excellent find!

[Anita18]

if you look in Tony Stark's eyes you can see Venom
:lmao: That will never get old.

[JMalone61]

This really isn't getting near the Dark Knight viral level of response.. Seems fishy..

If you ask me I'd say the misspellings stick out a lot as something to look more into.

OR

Why hasn't anyone mentioned the blurry image over his right shoulder. (Looks like it could be a picture of Hammer) ..(if that's already been brought up and shot down please spare me)

[starscream]

wow it really started

[Anita18]

This really isn't getting near the Dark Knight viral level of response.. Seems fishy..

If you ask me I'd say the misspellings stick out a lot as something to look more into.

OR

Why hasn't anyone mentioned the blurry image over his right shoulder. (Looks like it could be a picture of Hammer) ..(if that's already been brought up and shot down please spare me)
That's cause we were TOLD it's a clue and that's no fun compared to finding something ourselves.

Plus there's no obvious trailhead to be found here. :oldrazz:

[roach]

NICE THROWBACK! :applaud:

i try:woot:

[Yellow Cyclone]

is he holding captain america's shield in that side pic?

[Indie]

That's cause we were TOLD it's a clue and that's no fun compared to finding something ourselves.

Plus there's no obvious trailhead to be found here. :oldrazz:

it does kind of detract from the alternate reality aspect of the game when they come right out and tell you it's a clue :/

[Indie]

I'm convinced the clue / game has something to do with the misspelled words. I think the image was released in a high quality, so fans would be able to read the article and spot these key words and letters. I'm not sure what "Secret" being highlighted means however.

I also find it interesting that the N and U are missing from Trauma and Substantial. Since there are already 2 Ns and 1 U in the anagram below, I'm thinking that the final message doesn't have the need for the extra N and U, but rather an added D and E.

Anagram solver: http://wordsmith.org/anagram/advanced.html

S-U-B-S-T-A-T-I-A-L
T-R-A-M-A
K-I-D-D-E-N-A-P-P-I-N-G

Letters in the Anagram - Appearances in paranthesis.
A(5)-B(1)-D(2)-E(1)-G(1)-I(3)-K(1)-L(1)-M(1)-N(2)-P(2)-R(1)-S(2)-T(3)-U(1) - 27 letters total.

Letters NOT in the Anagram:
C-F-H-J-O-Q-V-W-X-Y-Z

The following Iron Man related words can be found in the above anagram.

INDUSTRIES
MANDARIN
STARK
STANE
TEN RINGS

In an attempt to draw some conclusions, the following words are just words that can be made from the above letters, in alphabetical order.

AND
AT
BEAR
BIKE (BIKING)
BURN
BUS
GAME
GLAD
IF
KIDNAP (KIDNAPPING)
KING
LAP
LEARN (LEARNING)
MAD
MAKE (MAKING)
MARS
MEN
NAP (NAPPING)
PAIN
PAPA
PUP
PEN
RENT (RENTING)
RING
SAD
SLAP (SLAPPING)
SUBSTANTIAL
TEAM
TEN
TRAUMA
TURN (TURNING)
UP

1) To me, the arrow means nothing. A lot of commenters stated that it means Green Arrow or Hawkeye, but I think it's just a simple design put in the article.

2) The picture to the left is obviously not Bruce Banner, so I'm not sure why people are still on this idea. The picture to the left is very similar to the one posted by me on the last page with Stark simply being in his lab, and not a bar.

3) The writer and photographer of the article have Iron Man crew names, so I don't think they hold any clues either.

4) The Iron Man image on the left is simply that, an Iron Man image as seen in the Ivan Vanko lab image, and not War Machine.

Of course, I could be completely going in the wrong direction, but why spell 3 words wrong in 1 sentence?

Do you think it would help to assume that we should be looking for a web address? I think that would be a logical place for this clue to lead

[Hotwire]

Why hasn't anyone mentioned the blurry image over his right shoulder. (Looks like it could be a picture of Hammer) ..(if that's already been brought up and shot down please spare me)
Where in the hell do you see a hammer? Is Venom holding it?

[Robbie]

it does kind of detract from the alternate reality aspect of the game when they come right out and tell you it's a clue :/

Especially when the clue seems to be a non-clue. I thought for sure the next phase would kick-off in response to the applications submitted but guess not. We need a ninja up in here.

[crimsonspider89]

The word secret is highlighted and the arrow highlights no apparent trauma. Bringing his drinking issue and depression to the movie?

[Turtles]

SUBSTATIAL, TRAMA, KIDDENAPPING.

Three misspelled words.

The missing/added letters are N, U, D, and E.

What if the clue is not some complicated anagram? What if the missing/added letters are all we're supposed to find?

My first thought is also the most simple: what if the missing/added letters are supposed to correspond to their numbers in the alphabet?

N=14
U=21
D=4
E=5

Anybody notice those numbers (in any order) floating around any where? Are those numbers a secret password for the next stage of the game?

It seems too easy, I know, but you never know. Maybe it's supposed to be easy, since it is only the first clue.

[ihustlevidz]

i flipped them both and stuff if anyone could see something i cant...

http://i47.tinypic.com/ets96q.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2rd7sc1.jpg

[ross2287]

:whatever: you guys are all sorts of loopy.

It's clearly Carnage.

Where in the hell do you see a hammer? Is Venom holding it?

:lmao: :awesome: :hehe:

[topdog1]

The missing/added letters are N, U, D, and E.



NUDE?

In a movie where Scarlett Johansson, Gwyneth Paltrow, Olivia Munn and Kate Mara are in the best shape of their lives, I LOVE where this clue could be heading!

[topdog1]

Not to bash anyone, but is this seriously a viral campaign or are people just looking waaaaaay to far into it?

So, the real secret is that there are articles written by Peter Parker, Lois Lane and Edward Brock hidden in the Whiplash poster, and we have to seek them out? They're right behind Dr Vanko.

[Indie]

SUBSTATIAL, TRAMA, KIDDENAPPING.

Three misspelled words.

The missing/added letters are N, U, D, and E.

What if the clue is not some complicated anagram? What if the missing/added letters are all we're supposed to find?

My first thought is also the most simple: what if the missing/added letters are supposed to correspond to their numbers in the alphabet?

N=14
U=21
D=4
E=5

Anybody notice those numbers (in any order) floating around any where? Are those numbers a secret password for the next stage of the game?

It seems too easy, I know, but you never know. Maybe it's supposed to be easy, since it is only the first clue.

according to C.Love (http://www.superherohype.com/news/ironmannews.php?id=8903&offset=475) there's two more letters we need to add to the list:


Here's all the mispellings:
T-missing from industries
i-missing from military
then of course the aforementioned N,U,D, & E
Together it spells united, untied, or dunite.

[the dmg]

according to C.Love (http://www.superherohype.com/news/ironmannews.php?id=8903&offset=475) there's two more letters we need to add to the list:

I see the missing T in industries, but I don't see the I missing in the word military.

One thing I noticed, and I'm too lazy to go back and check is that they refer to the company as Stark Enterprises, not Stark Industries. The article also refers to Stark Headquarters. I typed these as a web address, but no luck. I even added "now" at the end like Stark Industries' site, nothing.

[Indie]

I see the missing T in industries, but I don't see the I missing in the word military.

One thing I noticed, and I'm too lazy to go back and check is that they refer to the company as Stark Enterprises, not Stark Industries. The article also refers to Stark Headquarters. I typed these as a web address, but no luck. I even added "now" at the end like Stark Industries' site, nothing.

yeah, I'm having trouble finding the military he's talking about too. at first i thought he might mean the top right where it says "Meet with high-ranking military officials" but i'm pretty sure both i's are there.

good idea on the websites, too bad none of them worked out :/

[the dmg]

yeah, I'm having trouble finding the military he's talking about too. at first i thought he might mean the top right where it says "Meet with high-ranking military officials" but i'm pretty sure both i's are there.

good idea on the websites, too bad none of them worked out :/

I also tried Hammer Industries. Nothing.

[I Am The Bat]

I posted this a while back in this thread, but since this thing is getting started up again:

feed://www.starkindustriesnow.com/feed/

It should be anytime they upload something we can see what it is...

[Mattallica]

N.u.d.e.r.t.h =

thunder

[WindsofHorus]

N.u.d.e.r.t.h =

thunder

Well that's definately interesting..

[nbaballer101]

and just when i was going to post that we should close this thread down last week...

glad i didnt. good job Marvel. right before my breaking point you come through.

[mrardente]

Has everyone signed up for employment?
http://www.starkindustriesnow.com/employment/

I was looking through the thread to see if the site had been posted already and the guy a few post up posted about http://www.starkindustriesnow.com/feed
Sorry if this is old news

[topdog1]

What is this on the new Whiplash poster?

http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab270/atomicfellow/IronMan2_pst2_h1copy.jpg

[Bruce312]

Didn't read all the posts, so my apologies if this has been already mentioned but the article says "Stark Enterprises" 3 times. There's no way they could have made that mistake that many times without noticing it. The question is how does it tie in with everything else?

[I Am The Bat]

What is this on the new Whiplash poster?

http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab270/atomicfellow/IronMan2_pst2_h1copy.jpg

Look like Iron Monger... and I would say Iron Man, but it almost looks the the Whiplash designs from the recent comics... not really.. but kind of...

[Bruce312]

What is this on the new Whiplash poster?

http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab270/atomicfellow/IronMan2_pst2_h1copy.jpg
Kind of looks like the Mark I to me...

[crimsonspider89]

Yeah, looks like War Machine. Kinda of. What if Rhodie takes the Mark I without Tony knowing it?

[I Am The Bat]

Seriously... with all these mistakes... I think they could have made them without realizing it. I mean... The art people that made them probably just created "legitimate" stories about Iron Man and Tony Start, somewhat what like how Zack Synder's team did for Watchmen... They made them... put them on Newspaper or whatever... then printed them out and used them as props...

Judging by the organization of these folks (no offensive if you are reading, but you just don't **** with fan boys and post something in August and give a crappy hint in December... come on now), they probably didn't care to spell check it... frankly because they didn't need to at the time...

At least... that is my hypothesis...

[I Am The Bat]

Just watched that scene again (Iron Man vs. Iron Monger) that shot could have totally come from there...

[Anita18]

Seriously... with all these mistakes... I think they could have made them without realizing it. I mean... The art people that made them probably just created "legitimate" stories about Iron Man and Tony Start, somewhat what like how Zack Synder's team did for Watchmen... They made them... put them on Newspaper or whatever... then printed them out and used them as props...

Judging by the organization of these folks (no offensive if you are reading, but you just don't **** with fan boys and post something in August and give a crappy hint in December... come on now), they probably didn't care to spell check it... frankly because they didn't need to at the time...

At least... that is my hypothesis...
In the TDK ARG, they didn't spell "sergeant" correctly until like, a year into the game. :funny: I wouldn't look too hard into typos unless they were obviously pointed out. Like, with an arrow or note or something.

[crimsonspider89]

Half of those typose were highlighted with the big yellow arrow.

[I Am The Bat]

In the TDK ARG, they didn't spell "sergeant" correctly until like, a year into the game. :funny: I wouldn't look too hard into typos unless they were obviously pointed out. Like, with an arrow or note or something.

That is what I'm saying... it was interesting... but probably totally unintentional ...

BTW the Russian text: Железный человек? loosely translates into Iron Man? which means it is probably just a shot from the first fight...

[Redd]

N.u.d.e.r.t.h =

thunder

Where did you get those letters from? And correct me if I am wrong,... but I can smell a Marvel ninja... :ninja:

[crimsonspider89]

What if that is a later enemy from the movie? It is too small to be the Iron Monger.

Crimson Dynamo or Titanium Man?

[I Am The Bat]

yeah, I'm having trouble finding the military he's talking about too. at first i thought he might mean the top right where it says "Meet with high-ranking military officials" but i'm pretty sure both i's are there.

good idea on the websites, too bad none of them worked out :/

If there isn't a text size change... one might be missing

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/BigChillin/Military.jpg

[Aesop Rocks]

If this is a "clue" I don't want to be a Tony Stark in order to figure it out.

(a genius)

[I Am The Bat]

A user named Mesh also commented on my site the same thing. Very excellent eyes by C. Love and Mesh.

http://www.internapse.com/marvel/news.php?id=2559#IDComment46871809

U-N-I-T-E-D... very interesting development indeed.

Not sure how I missed those letters, I read the article 100s of times.

t was on the way left... I didn't even think to look at those... and I'm not 100% sure that I is actually missing because of the alignment of the article... I forgot what it is called, but it is the one with all lines are equal in word.... Justify?

[I Am The Bat]

Well all the e-mail bots are still functioning:

Thank you for your interest in Stark Industries.

Please visit StarkIndustriesNow.com/employment to complete an employment application.

best,
Kay

--

Kay Baker
Stark Industries
Human Resources - Recruiter
kbaker@starkindustriesnow.com

Hey you,

I really appreciate your enthusiasm about Stark Industries. Just go to StarkIndustriesNow.com/employment and fill out the application.

We'll be in touch.

Thanks so much,
Lucy

--

Lucy Park
Stark Industries
Human Resources - Recruiter
lpark@starkindustriesnow.com

---

Hi there,

I'm glad you're curious about Stark Industries.

Go to StarkIndustriesNow.com/employment, fill in the blanks, and wait for our response.

All the best,
Tara

--

Tara Grey
Stark Industries
Human Resources - Recruiter
tgrey@starkindustriesnow.com

[I Am The Bat]

We posted exactly what we were asked to post :)

Just wondering if the e-mail was directly from paramount or the company that is supposedly doing this viral campaign.

I'm asking because it would allow me to more focus my obsession on a target :)

[raptorz44]

And I thought I was done with obsessing over a movie's viral campaign with TDK....I just got drawn back in.


Applied to Stark Industries just now...

[I Am The Bat]

And I thought I was done with obsessing over a movie's viral campaign with TDK....I just got drawn back in.


Applied to Stark Industries just now...

Let us know if you get a reply... I remember that if you didn't apply within the first week or so you didn't get a response from Kay Barker...

[Indie]

Let us know if you get a reply... I remember that if you didn't apply within the first week or so you didn't get a response from Kay Barker...

yeah, i tried to sign up for it yesterday and got nothing :/

[Indie]

are we sure this clue thing is meant to be solved yet? Maybe there's another clue we have to wait for. Either way, this is a shoddy viral so far *sulks*

[Indie]

Page Buckner + Nancy King. = Age-Ancy .... Agency.

Secret is highlighted...

TraUma.... SubstaNtial.... MilItary... IndusTries... KidDEnapping = UNITED.

Secret United Agency whose initials are SUA or USA.

Though, I'm not sure if it makes sense that the clue leads to a USA Secret United Agency (aka the Avengers).

it's kind of weird that the missing/added letters are in an order that spell AGENCY and NUDE (no unscrambling needed). Not sure how the T factors into that though...

I also really don't think the I in military is actually missing. i'm 90% sure that it's there.

[the dmg]

Page Buckner + Nancy King. = Age-Ancy .... Agency.

Secret is highlighted...

Secret Agency. Good find. Must be talking about SHIELD.

I'm still not convinced that the "i" in military is missing.

[I Am The Bat]

Page Buckner + Nancy King. = Age-Ancy .... Agency.

Secret is highlighted...

TraUma.... SubstaNtial.... MilItary... IndusTries... KidDEnapping = UNITED.

Secret United Agency whose initials are SUA or USA.

Though, I'm not sure if it makes sense that the clue leads to a USA Secret United Agency (aka the Avengers).

Noelle was the one I sent the message to on Facebook - I couldn't find the other one...

[Hotwire]

I get the feeling that whom ever sent this "clue" to SHH! is laughing his ass off right now.

[roach]

I get the feeling that whom ever sent this "clue" to SHH! is laughing his ass off right now.

its like that episode of GI Joe where this guy called the viper calls with a cryptic message and joe breaks the code and nearly defeats Cobra just to find out the viper was actually a window wiper with an accent

[I Am The Bat]

its like that episode of GI Joe where this guy called the viper calls with a cryptic message and joe breaks the code and nearly defeats Cobra just to find out the viper was actually a window wiper with an accent

That sounds amazing :P

[Aesop Rocks]

Cooobbrraaa!!

[roach]

it was a real good episode played for laughs

[the dmg]

its like that episode of GI Joe where this guy called the viper calls with a cryptic message and joe breaks the code and nearly defeats Cobra just to find out the viper was actually a window wiper with an accent

I remember that episode.

[TheVelvetOnion]

Hi dont know if this has already been posted but that article appears on this picture that was released earlier... just right above whiplashes costume he is holding up...

http://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/44655/hr_Iron_Man_2_9.jpg

[I Am The Bat]

Hi dont know if this has already been posted but that article appears on this picture that was released earlier... just right above whiplashes costume he is holding up...

http://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/44655/hr_Iron_Man_2_9.jpg

:doh:

[Jostru]

So I may have found a few thing in the clue:

http://i45.tinypic.com/166dt6x.jpg

So I noticed that in the arrow, there are a few interesting things. For example:

- The word "Afghanistan" is cut in half by the arrow and now you see "Afghan". Next to it you see the word "mysterious", also in the arrow. This forms "Mysterious Afghan". Reference to The Mandarin perhaps?

- Also in the arrow they say that Tony "challenged natural disasters", but I don't recall anything like this happening in Iron Man. It also says that he was found "in Saudi Arabia", but it seems very unlikely that Tony walked from Afghanistan to Saudi Arabia. Now what do you get if you connect the 2? "Challenged natural disasters in Saudi Arabia". Again Mandarin maybe?

This is what I found for now. :D

[crimsonspider89]

They have already denied Mandarin. With the Russian appearing on these hints, I think it could be Titanium Man later on in the movie.

[I Am The Bat]

So I may have found a few thing in the clue:

http://i45.tinypic.com/166dt6x.jpg

So I noticed that in the arrow, there are a few interesting things. For example:

- The word "Afghanistan" is cut in half by the arrow and now you see "Afghan". Next to it you see the word "mysterious", also in the arrow. This forms "Mysterious Afghan". Reference to The Mandarin perhaps?

- Also in the arrow they say that Tony "challenged natural disasters", but I don't recall anything like this happening in Iron Man. It also says that he was found "in Saudi Arabia", but it seems very unlikely that Tony walked from Afghanistan to Saudi Arabia. Now what do you get if you connect the 2? "Challenged natural disasters in Saudi Arabia". Again Mandarin maybe?

This is what I found for now. :D

I don't know... this seems like something straight out of "23" or "A Beautiful Mind" - I think we all may be experiencing some type of apophenia to a degree

[kedrell]

They have already denied Mandarin. With the Russian appearing on these hints, I think it could be Titanium Man later on in the movie.

Crimson Dynamo. Otherwise there would be no reason for the character to be last-named Vanko.

[I Am The Bat]

Crimson Dynamo. Otherwise there would be no reason for the character to be last-named Vanko.

Eh... Rocurke is playing his son or something... right?

[Aesop Rocks]

Yep, Rourke is playing a son. in Iron Man: Armored Adventures. Vanko was a Russian scientist that was left for dead in the orbit of the sun (all by accident), It was actually a REALLY good story.

[R_Hythlodeus]

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via twitter

[Mr. Earle]

So there you have it folks. Instead of scrutinizing a bunch of photos, Favs was kind enough to show the way.
I really dont think there is an ARG in play here. I mean, TDK had a huge one with multiple sites, events, etc. Here we have a few pictures of the movie surface and those are supposed to give us something? Meh...

[Keyser Soze]

I wonder if the "clue" Favs will be giving us will be another vague newspaper clipping like the one above, where we have to put the two together to try and decode some kind of pattern, or if it will be something more overt....

[Jostru]

They have already denied Mandarin. With the Russian appearing on these hints, I think it could be Titanium Man later on in the movie.

Yes, but maybe he'll be like an after credits scene or like in the first movie, there could be a reference or 2 towards him, making clear that he's out there somewhere.

[R_Hythlodeus]

If so, it would have been nice for Paramount and SHH to tell us that, so we wouldn't be scrambling around with part 1.

Either way, in 90 minutes, I intend to find out what this "clue" business is all about.
yeah. I´ll have an eye on http://screenrant.com/iron-man-2-viral-marketing-vic-37420/ too

[WindsofHorus]

I don't think that this has anything to do with titanium man or crimson dynamo. And that picture before is definately the mark 1. I think we're gonna have to see about what favreau posted

[I Am The Bat]

I'm going to be in class.... DAMN YOU LAST FINAL DAY!!!!!!!

[Jostru]

Looky here:

http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/iron-man2-viral2-header.jpg

[Chewy]

http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/iron-man2-viral2-570x764.jpg

[R_Hythlodeus]

http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/iron-man2-viral2-570x764.jpg
there are spots on defense contractor

[zbhbatman]

So all we have is two very vague clues with no direction in how to solve them. is it a website? is it something else? this viral kinda sucks so far

[R_Hythlodeus]

Secret stark? N.u.d.e.?

[Robbie]

So all we have is two very vague clues with no direction in how to solve them. is it a website? is it something else? this viral kinda sucks so far

It is definitely difficult to draw any conclusions from the little we have. My hope is that there are more "clues" that will be released. My guess is we will see several clippings with different highlighted words that reveal the message. I might be wrong, but that's the only thing I can guess with the info we have so far. Not much interaction, just, "Hey, here are some images with highlighted words, get pumped!" Lame as far as supposed viral clues go, but who knows, it may take off into something awesome.

[I Am The Bat]

Ernie Avila is the set designer and James Rothwell is in charge of animatics :)

[I Am The Bat]

"In a move which caused shockwaves in markets around the world, Tony Stark declared that Stark Industries [referred to as Stark Enterprises in the last article] will be getting out of the weapons business. The announcement came hours after the CEP was rescued from terrorists who had been holding him hostage in an undisclosed location in the Middle East.

Sources within Stark Industries have said the proposed changes in the company's business structure would likely devastate the weapons giant. Stark is the country's largest defense [smudge on e] contractor [smudge on a] and supplies materials, services and technology to some 30 other nations.

Markets from Tokyo to London reeled from the the news on Tuesday, which investors stampeding to dump Stark shares. Indexes fell 4% on average.

Stark Industries was founded during World War II by industrialist Howard Stark. When President Roosevelt declared that the United States would build fifty thousand planes to fight the armies of Hirohito and Hitler. Stark rose to the challenge and set about building an astounding one hundred [something something] His con [probably contribution] effect contr [something something] -oration [something something] and every [something something] -tern develop [something something] War.

For all c- [something something darkside]"

[I Am The Bat]

What is that picture of?

[Robbie]

What is that picture of?

I was wondering the same thing. Looks like it could be someone in Greek garb, especially given the background. At the very least I get the impression it's someone running/working out. Hard to tell with the burn hole...:csad:

[Dr Lee]

reminds me of the large Green screen set.....

[Hotwire]

I've decoded the secret message!!! God, it was so easy! I'm surprised no one else got it.

Be sure to drink your Ovaltine!

I hope someone gets the joke

[Kanon]

So we just wait for more pics, and the pieces we are supposed to put together are the highlighted words? meh...

[Aesop Rocks]

I've decoded the secret message!!! God, it was so easy! I'm surprised no one else got it.

Be sure to drink your Ovaltine!

I hope someone gets the joke

Ralph! Your brother has to use the bathroom!

Just a minute mom!

*lil brother whines*

[Carlo Comicus]

Ernie Avila is the set designer and James Rothwell is in charge of animatics :)

edit.

[Hotwire]

Ralph! Your brother has to use the bathroom!

Just a minute mom!

*lil brother whines*
I was kind of expecting... "A crumby commercial? Son of a *****!"

[Aesop Rocks]

You'll shoot your eye out.

[cyclone]

Well, the only things i can think of...from those two clippings;

http://i45.tinypic.com/166dt6x.jpg

That one, and;

http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/iron-man2-viral2-header.jpg

That one....

Is if it's just the two highlighted words. 'Secret Stark'? Maybe a Stark family member is going to pop up??

No idea, jus a wild stab in the dark. :im:

[kedrell]

Maybe Ivan IS secretly a Stark family member.

[Dark Sentinel]

no way, Favreau has stated that Rourke's character's name is Ivan Vanko, and that he's the son of Anton Vanko, the original Crimson Dynamo


**yeah, this Batfan did his Iron Man research haha

[WindsofHorus]

Maybe Ivan IS secretly a Stark family member.

I really hope not. That'd be terrible

[kedrell]

no way, Favreau has stated that Rourke's character's name is Ivan Vanko, and that he's the son of Anton Vanko, the original Crimson Dynamo

I was thinking only of him being a Stark biologically speaking. Of course he was probably raised as a Vanko. I'm just throwing **** out there to see what sticks to the wall.

[WindsofHorus]

no way, Favreau has stated that Rourke's character's name is Ivan Vanko, and that he's the son of Anton Vanko, the original Crimson Dynamo


**yeah, this Batfan did his Iron Man research haha


This Iron Fan applauds you

[WindsofHorus]

I was thinking only of him being a Stark biologically speaking. Of course he was probably raised as a Vanko. I'm just throwing **** out there to see what sticks to the wall.

I don't think that's gonna be it at all and I really hope it isn't

[Cth]

RE: "Walking on air" photo..

Two things come to mind:

1) There's an ad/commercial for some shoe with that tagline currently.
(.. That part could just be part of an advertisement in other words)

2) It's also part of the lyrics for THE GREATEST AMERICAN HERO
(.. unlikely, but a nice touch, in other words)

[crimsonspider89]

Exactly who I thought as well. The articles mentions WWII along with Stark's grandfather. Secret Stark and Project will be the next one I bet. It will refer to Stark being involved in the Rebirth project or in reviving Steve.

[TankerX]

in the first clue, i may be clasping at straws, but i couldn't help notice these few:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1876/hrironman2secret.jpg

In the DVD of Iron Man we see the Cap America shield in the background, and in Incredible Hulk we see the shield and body in an ice. So the "amazing captain" could have been found by Stark and his "Military Escort?"
And brought back to his HQ - possibly the S.H.I.E.L.D HQ? Cause we know about the whole Avengers Initiative so could Cap be discovered in the film or something?

Feel free to smack me upside my head if this seems far fetched but could it be hinting at the Inititative coming to life in the film to a certaine extent?

[kedrell]

I don't think that's gonna be it at all and I really hope it isn't


I agree mostly, I'm just trying to get some more ideas flowing.

[Aesop Rocks]

Edit: Darn double post.

While I have this space, why couldn't Whiplash, or whoever ripped these articles out use a pair of scissors!!

Maybe he grabbed all the papers he could in the house fire that killed his dad. :cwink:

Kidding, I have no idea.

[zbhbatman]

I just can't wait for this to actually get some traction. Jon Favreau just tweeted about the clue's though

[Mister Sinister]

When it refers to Howard Stark helping out during WW2, I could only think of one project he might have been involved with...

[the dmg]

Looking at the second article at a glance, it might go in the direction to give us background on Anton Vanko and why Ivan is seeking revenge on Stark. Maybe it's shedding some light on whether they're taking the comic route of the new Iron Man vs. Whiplash coming out, or something else.

[crimsonspider89]

The viral is hinting at Captain America. LOL, yeah that is what it is saying.

[Aesop Rocks]

The viral is all about Starks past.

[I Am The Bat]

http://www.internapse.com/marvel/news.php?id=2570

The Washington Times - Weekday Edition
Stark Situation Paralyzed
[unclear text] nges: Tony [unclear text] dismantle [unclear text] acturing [unclear text] dustries.

In a move which caused shockwaves in markets around the world, Tony Stark declared that Stark Industries will be getting out of the weapons business. The announcement came hours after the CEO was rescued from terrorists who had been holding him hostage in an undisclosed location in the Middle East.

Sources within Stark Industries have said that the proposed changes in the company's business structure would likely devastate the weapons giant. Stark is the country's largest defense contractor and supplies materials, services and technology to some 30 other nations.

Markets from Tokyo to London reeled from the news on Tuesday, with investors stampeding to dump Stark shares. Indexes fell 4% on average.

Stark Industries was founded during World War II by industrialist Howard Stark. When President Roosevelet declared that the United States would build fifty thousand planes to fight the armies of Hirohito and Hitler, Stark rose to the challenge and set about building an astounding one hundred [unclear text].

His iconic effort cont-[unclear text]-oration on [unclear text] and every [unclear text]-tem deve-[unclear text] War.

For all [unclear text]

Pres-[unclear text] a hum-[unclear text]-ing st-[unclear text] lawma-[unclear text] to send [unclear text] bill th-[unclear text] some t-[unclear text] and fe-[unclear text] sooner.

Usin-[unclear text] to date [unclear text] the D-[unclear text] -gress [unclear text] brea-[unclear text] work [unclear text] he re-[unclear text] the [unclear text].

The title above the picture reads Walking on Air. The caption below the picture is J.M. Eddins Jr. / The Washington Times. Eddins Jr. is an actual Washington Times staff member.

...

I'm ready for the next clue, cause I'm already stumped on this one.

The link that you have on your website is not all the photos done by that guy for the washington post... When you search his name in google, you get over 600 results from him alone.... most of which weren't in the gallery... A lot of which having to deal with Mongolia... I'm totally not saying that it is related at all, but I think it might spur some interesting conversation to read :P

[I Am The Bat]

I'd bet that Eddins Jr. name is only in the paper to make it look more official. Same goes for "Getty Images" under the Stark image.

These clues need to be more obvious, or at least a little easier to spot, or at the very, very least, somebody needs to tell us how many "clues" there are.

I just want the real image... so I looked thru all of the photos... all 600 results...

nothing...

[ihustlevidz]

i was reading the new piece of CLUE and if anyone else notice or maybe im tripping but certain words are BOLD anyone else see that?

[Khemik@L]

in the first clue, i may be clasping at straws, but i couldn't help notice these few: http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1876/hrironman2secret.jpg In the DVD of Iron Man we see the Cap America shield in the background, and in Incredible Hulk we see the shield and body in an ice. So the "amazing captain" could have been found by Stark and his "Military Escort?" And brought back to his HQ - possibly the S.H.I.E.L.D HQ? Cause we know about the whole Avengers Initiative so could Cap be discovered in the film or something? Feel free to smack me upside my head if this seems far fetched but could it be hinting at the Inititative coming to life in the film to a certaine extent? Speaking of far fetched and following your train of thought.. What if we get a Captain America Cameo in Iron Man 2. I mean fully facial cameo. Granted he should be still in the ice and unconscious (if that is how you spell it) but that would be cool could be the last shot of the film or something. Don't know if by then we would know who is playing him. But if we don't it would be a real cool way of revealing him.

[Khemik@L]

Sorry Double Post

[Khemik@L]

TRIPLE POST. Seems like I'm having some connection problems

[the dmg]

Alright, what we have so far:

First Article:
Age (Page Buckner) [might be nothing]
Ancy (Nancy King) [might be nothing]
Secret (Highlighted)
U (Trauma) [misspelling]
N (Substantial) [misspelling]
T (Industries) [misspelling]
DE (Kidnapping) [misspelling]

I didn't include the I in military because I'm not convinced it's missing.
Also, Stark Enterprises and Stark Headquarters are mentioned in the article, being interchanged with Stark Industries as someone pointed out and I forgot to include. I entered both into the url by themselves and with "now" at the end, but nothing came up.

Second Article:
Stark (Highlighted)
rnie (Ernie Avila) [now I'm convinced it's nothing, and just them putting their names]
ames (James Rothwell) [now I'm convinced it's nothing, and just them putting their names]
S (Sources) [there's a marking before the S]
DE (Defense) [marked]
TRAC or RAC (Contractor) [marked]
Walking on Air [might coincide with all the attention being on Tony or could be nothing, as the set up is like an actual front page. The question is, why include that and the picture at all? Man's head in the picture is missing, but could be nothing. Picture is from U.S. National Arboretum.]

EDIT:
Made a correction to second article finding. Defense and Contractor are not misspelled, but the DE and T/RAC are marked.

EDIT#2"
Added part with Stark Enterprises and Stark Headquarters to first article.

[khaur]

I think it's still to early to figure anything out.
But then I've never been good at virals...

[Indie]

Alright, what we have so far:

First Article:
Age (Page Buckner) [might be nothing]
Ancy (Nancy King) [might be nothing]
Secret (Highlighted)
U (Trauma) [misspelling]
N (Substantial) [misspelling]
T (Industries) [misspelling]
DE (Kidnapping) [misspelling]

I didn't include the I in military because I'm not convinced it's missing.

Second Article:
Stark (Highlighted)
rnie (Ernie Avila) [now I'm convinced it's nothing, and just them putting their names]
ames (James Rothwell) [now I'm convinced it's nothing, and just them putting their names]
S (Sources) [there's a marking before the S]
DE (Defense) [misspelling]
TRAC or RAC (Contractor) [misspelling]
Walking on Air [might coincide with all the attention being on Tony or could be nothing, as the set up is like an actual front page. The question is, why include that and the picture at all? Man's head in the picture is missing, but could be nothing. Picture is from U.S. National Arboretum.]

Very good summary of the clues/possible clues so far. thanks!

[Ipodman]

If it meant anything, someone must have figured it out by now....

i bet its some website where u get to see exclusive stuff... like TDK's websites...

[the dmg]

If it meant anything, someone must have figured it out by now....

i bet its some website where u get to see exclusive stuff... like TDK's websites...
I was hoping that it would be similar to what the TDK virals were, but I've got nothing so far.

[Ipodman]

im guessing the website is
secretstark[something].com

[Anita18]

If it meant anything, someone must have figured it out by now....

i bet its some website where u get to see exclusive stuff... like TDK's websites...
Since we got a second article, I bet we're supposed to put stuff together (or something thereabouts) when we finally get a collection of them. Of course the hard part is figuring out WHEN we can use the articles to do something. Two articles? Four? Ten? :funny:

[Robbie]

im guessing the website is
secretstark[something].com

Or possibly starkindustriesnow.com/CLUESOLUTION

[kedrell]

Nope


Error 404 - Not Found

[Robbie]

Nope

Ha, didn't mean for it to be an actual address. Whatever the solution ends up being could potentially be an addition to the web address is all I was saying. :cwink:

With that said, NEW CLUE!
http://chud.com/articles/content_images/5/3_confession.jpg

[protocida]

http://chud.com/articles/content_images/5/3_confession.jpg

[kedrell]

secret+stark+confession.....hmmm, I got nothing.

[kedrell]

I thinkwe can safely remove the word possible from this thread's title now.

[Bishop49]

What if Stark's Dad didn't die in a Car Crash???

[roach]

hmmm maybe Tony Stark confesses that he is secretly Iron Man

[Aesop Rocks]

He kind of did that....

To well, the world.

[Ghrunter]

Still nothing from the StarIndustriesNow thingy, wonder if they're ever gonna follow up the e-mails they sent out before =\

[kedrell]

I was waiting for that one to come up.

[Rocker22]

I hate it when I can't tell if people are being sarcastic.

[roach]

i was being sarcastic

[Robbie]

Third Article:
Confession (Highlighted)
P (Newspaper) [misspelling]

In the first article there was also a missing I in military. I got UNITED from article one as far as letters from misspelled words.

[Aesop Rocks]

i was being sarcastic

no. NO! DON'T SHUT ME UP BRUCE!

[Aesop Rocks]

Secret Stark confessions?

Starks secret confessions?

[I Am The Bat]

I thinkwe can safely remove the word possible from this thread's title now.

I don't know if we can... at least from the ARG part... If they spoon feed us this "Clue" then it really ain't a game... So far... we haven't had to figure anything out...

[I Am The Bat]

Again... They are interchanging between Enterprises and Industries... The first one had enterprises... second one industries... this one both?

And if you have noticed... They keep getting more and more "burnt" or whatever it is...

[Khemik@L]

In the first article there was also a missing I in military. I got UNITED from article one as far as letters from misspelled words.

If you notice in the dmg's quote, it says:



Due to the newspaper spacing, it's tough to say whether or not the "i" is actually missing.

I'm with Marvel on this. The font is too small for me to be convinced that something is missing in military. However "UNITED" does seem "Avengers" Related which is very interesting.

[I Am The Bat]

This Article is also in the new poster...

[Grommers]

I really think this is going to have to do with Whiplash, in the probability that Tonys Father probably did something really bad which resulted in whiplash well becoming whiplash.

Hence it doesn't say "tony" its just starks secret confessions..because whiplash knows stark, and knows what his family had done with the weapons..

[I Am The Bat]

I really think this is going to have to do with Whiplash, in the probability that Tonys Father probably did something really bad which resulted in whiplash well becoming whiplash.

Hence it doesn't say "tony" its just starks secret confessions..because whiplash knows stark, and knows what his family had done with the weapons..

I agree... It is just kind of lame that we just get these crap clues instead of something challenging...

[kedrell]

I don't know if we can... at least from the ARG part... If they spoon feed us this "Clue" then it really ain't a game... So far... we haven't been able to figure anything out...

Fixed.:cwink:

[Jostru]

Secret, Stark, Confession,...

Maybe Ivan/Whiplash knows a secret about Tony and is planning to let him/every other single person on the planet know.

[I Am The Bat]

Fixed.:cwink:

Very Nice lol

[I Am The Bat]

OH! IDEA!

You know how we are saying that Ivan knows something about the Stark Family? Well, doesn't it look like in this picture that Tony is looking at blueprints (yes... I know they aren't really blue)?

http://www.internapse.com/gallery/d/69344-4/06.jpg

Could it be that Tony is looking for confirmation of whatever secret Ivan told Tony?! People have been saying that it is a hole, but look... there are cases in the floor opening...

[the dmg]

Wow, they did a horrible job with this article. You can clearly see the full text where the burnt edges are. Sloppy work.

[unclear]ned, [unclear]ondon (obviously London) and [unclear]chester, [unclear]ily (obviously daily) newspaer [misspelling], London Express

Tony Stark The Man behind the Iron Mask

Tony Stark's Confession: 'I am Iron Man'

[unclear]ture (obviously Future) of "Stark Enterprises" in [unclear] World Markets react

The whole first column is missing, but most of the second column is intact.

Second Column:
All this came to a temporary halt when his father, inventor Howard Stark, and his mother were killed in a car crash in 1991. Embracing a more sober (lol) existence, he became head of Stark Industries and the youngest CEO of an American Fortune 500/Dow Jones Industrial company at 21.

Despite the fact that long time family confidant and chief Stark liason [misspelling], Obadiah Stane, was actively involved with the company's running, many critics questioned young Tony's ability to [unclear] (I believe the word is helm) such a large multi-national corporation. He quickly proved them wrong.

Swiftly asserting his authority, he became an [unclear]ring and energetic leader.

[unclear] his watch, by competitively bidding [unclear]er and more advanced military con-[unclear] (looks like it says contracts) Stark Industries has expanded to [unclear] the world leader in its field. Through [unclear]novation (looks like innovation) in such diverse scientific [unclear] vanced (looks like advanced) robotics, weaponry, [unclear]cal engineering, Stark Indus-[unclear] (probably industries and some other text) defense contractor, is [unclear] roads into agricul-[unclear](probably agricultural and some other text) medical advances. [unclear] for many of the [unclear]ologies.

[unclear]er, Tony Stark [unclear]ies with his [unclear] his assidu-[unclear] with his [unclear]ntaining a [unclear] Chatter [unclear]ose the [unclear] cien-

Adding to MarvelMovies' post:

Third Article:
Confession (Highlighted)
P (Newspaper) [misspelling]
I (Liaison) [misspelling] Now you people have your damn I.

Again, Stark Enterprises is mentioned again.

[Jostru]

With the hole Stark Enterprises thing in 2 of the 3 clues, I think we can be pretty certain that they will rename the company.

[Ironfan72]

OH! IDEA!

You know how we are saying that Ivan knows something about the Stark Family? Well, doesn't it look like in this picture that Tony is looking at blueprints (yes... I know they aren't really blue)?

http://www.internapse.com/gallery/d/69344-4/06.jpg

Could it be that Tony is looking for confirmation of whatever secret Ivan told Tony?! People have been saying that it is a hole, but look... there are cases in the floor opening...

I was thinking the same thing when the picture first hit, people said it looked like he was repairing damage, but looking at it, a crowbar, blueprints and like you said box's all lead to what Favreau described as a secret from Howard Stark's past that will help Tony's future.

[firstmovement]

This could always be just a random post but a poster called danner posted this on the comments for the SHH article:

"I KNOW STARKS SECRET!!!CONFESS YOU STOLE THE ARC REACTOR TEQ FROM MY DAD OR ILL KILL YOU LIKE I KILLED YOURE DAD IN 1991!!!!!!!"

Despite the misspellings, something in my gut says there's more to this than I'd like to admit. Would be a pretty strong motivation for someone to go after the Stark family and ties in pretty close to a central part of the mythos (the Arc Reactor). I haven't read any leaked scripts to confirm but any other thoughts?

[firstmovement]

EDIT: Double post.

[Aesop Rocks]

This could always be just a random post but a poster called danner posted this on the comments for the SHH article:

"I KNOW STARKS SECRET!!!CONFESS YOU STOLE THE ARC REACTOR TEQ FROM MY DAD OR ILL KILL YOU LIKE I KILLED YOURE DAD IN 1991!!!!!!!"

Despite the misspellings, something in my gut says there's more to this than I'd like to admit. Would be a pretty strong motivation for someone to go after the Stark family and ties in pretty close to a central part of the mythos (the Arc Reactor). I haven't read any leaked scripts to confirm but any other thoughts?

It could just be a joke.

[firstmovement]

Could be that too.

[the dmg]

With the hole Stark Enterprises thing in 2 of the 3 clues, I think we can be pretty certain that they will rename the company.

I'm thinking that as well, as Stark Industries is associated with weapons development.

[The Geek Vault]

I'm wondering what the part in the second clue means where it says "walking on thin air"

[Heretic]

I forget: In movie continuity, what happened to Stark's dad????

Starks pop was involved with World War 2? Obviously Captain America was as well, and the Russian's were on our side in that war...so maybe Crimson Dynamo was on a team with them and got screwed over somehow???

[I Am The Bat]

I'm wondering what the part in the second clue means where it says "walking on thin air"

I'm pretty sure it is just walking on air

[Heretic]

Favs made the point of mentioning that Whiplash is the son of Crimson Dynamo. Okay, cool...well...what happened to Crimson Dynamo? Surely someone with powers had to defeat him...the answer must be Starks dad since thats what the issue is about...and likely Captain America as well since that is what amounts to the sequel to this film. Black Widow is Russian, so even their government wants in on the secret...

I dont see this "secret" as a blockbuster...unless it is revealed that Starks father was a super hero as well (The Vision????). If that were to happen (which I doubt) it would be a suprise, but a crappy one that would all but ruin the film for me.

Also, the secret could theoretically be more involved...possibly old man Stark stole the arc reactor technology from Dynamo (explaining why Whiplash knows how to make one)...but that the giant arc reactor was actually meant to cross dimensional borders...perhaps a giant hammer was retrieved and is hidden somewhere...BUT...that is WAY too much story to bother getting into when there's already so many characters and themes.

So, since the other options are stupid or too involved, I'm going with the idea that this will be a lame surprise...possibly revealing that Starks father turned evil and stole the arc reactor tech...which could lead a man to drink.

[the dmg]

Favs made the point of mentioning that Whiplash is the son of Crimson Dynamo. Okay, cool...well...what happened to Crimson Dynamo?

That is if his father ever became the Crimson Dynamo. I'm beginning to think the clues are just going to play out itself.

[omega_man]

OH! IDEA!

You know how we are saying that Ivan knows something about the Stark Family? Well, doesn't it look like in this picture that Tony is looking at blueprints (yes... I know they aren't really blue)?

http://www.internapse.com/gallery/d/69344-4/06.jpg

Could it be that Tony is looking for confirmation of whatever secret Ivan told Tony?! People have been saying that it is a hole, but look... there are cases in the floor opening...

heres something i found. Howard Stark was involved in the Manhattan Project and he also created robots called the Arsenal with a control unit code-named Mistress it was hidden in the mansion. The Arsenal robots also was supposed to be activated if the US was overrun during a presumed Cold War conflict. the Mistress had a persona and brain patters of Howard Stark wife Maria Stark.

heres a link http://marvel.wikia.com/Arsenal_%28Robot%29_%28Earth-616%29

[I Am The Bat]

heres something i found. Howard Stark was involved in the Manhattan Project and he also created robots called the Arsenal with a control unit code-named Mistress it was hidden in the mansion. The Arsenal robots also was supposed to be activated if the US was overrun during a presumed Cold War conflict. the Mistress had a persona and brain patters of Howard Stark wife Maria Stark.

heres a link http://marvel.wikia.com/Arsenal_%28Robot%29_%28Earth-616%29

That is on the regular wiki too (on howard stark), but ya... That is interesting

[omega_man]

That is on the regular wiki too (on howard stark), but ya... That is interesting

yeah i forgot to check the regular wiki lol. anyway on wiki it says the control unit is called "Mother" instead of "Mistress" in the marvel wiki link i provided. but anyway i have a strange feeling it could be the Arsenal robots in the house also in the clip with Iron Man and War Machine fighting a few robots maybe they are the Arsenal :wow:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_%28Marvel_Comics%29

[Heretic]

Oh my...I just cant imagine them bringing in a subplot about a bunch of robots...there are already so many characters, and surely justin hammer will have something to keep War Machine busy...

I actually forgot that Justin Hammer is in the movie...man they have WAY too much going on here. They have to have some build toward Mandarin, some build toward Avengers, and tell a cohesive storyline with Hammer, Whiplash, Black Widow and War Machine added, AND a personal story with Pepper.What a mess.

I stand behind my theory that Stark's dad was involved with Captain America and Crimson Dynamo. The world they've created makes no sense if they aren't. There is some dark secret involved. The reason why its hard to guess is because it could be related to this movie, a sequel, Thor, Captain America or some other Avengers character.

Somehow, all of this has to tie together without adding too many extra parts. Perhaps Hammer created the Ten Rings for Mandarin? Old man Stark and Captain America put down the Whiplash's daddy. Will the Captain America movie tell this story? If so, does either Crimson Dynamo or old man Stark help the Nazis create the Red Skull??

[omega_man]

but in the ET Promo Iron Man and War Machine are fighting a bunch of robots.

[Chewy]

Oh my...I just cant imagine them bringing in a subplot about a bunch of robots...there are already so many characters, and surely justin hammer will have something to keep War Machine busy...

I actually forgot that Justin Hammer is in the movie...man they have WAY too much going on here. They have to have some build toward Mandarin, some build toward Avengers, and tell a cohesive storyline with Hammer, Whiplash, Black Widow and War Machine added, AND a personal story with Pepper.What a mess.
Justin Hammer makes and sells (or at least attempts to sell, I don't know if they buy them) the drones/robots to the military. That is how they fit in.

[Heretic]

Thats fine...I just dont see the subplot of Starks dad making them as working. if the big secret is that old man stark made some robts and Hammer has taken cntrol of them, then count me as unimpressed.

[I Am The Bat]

Thats fine...I just dont see the subplot of Starks dad making them as working. if the big secret is that old man stark made some robts and Hammer has taken cntrol of them, then count me as unimpressed.

In that particular subplot? or the entire plot of the movie?

[Heretic]

The movie is already a bit of a mess. Lets face it, Thor takes place in another realm, captain America takes place in the past...so this movie has to set up Iron man 3, Avengers, Captain America and possibly Thor...heck, maybe even dealing with Hulk loose ends...and at the same time work War Machine into the action, Black Widow, Nick Fury, Whiplash, Pepper Potts, Justin Hammer...and some back story with Starks dad...and again, thats NOT including the Mandarin! The movie isnt 4 hours long...so you're already looking at a cramped film. If youre going to have a dark secret subplot with Starks dad, it better be a blockbuster or it just complicates an already complicated story.

[omega_man]

yeah, who even said its a subplot it could be the whole plot of the movie.

[Aesop Rocks]

Stark digging into his past is the MAIN plot.

[Heretic]

I'm sure it is the plot, or heavily involved in the plot, but if it needlessly involves Starks dad then that just east up time that could be spent developing characters, especially considering that all of these characters will have to fight for time to be developed.

If the secret affects this movie, for instance, Stark made the robots Hammer uses, then it is a waste of time and they should have had Hammer invent them himself.

If old man Starks secret impacts Captain America and Avengers, then the time spent is worth it.

[Aesop Rocks]

I heard it has to do with
Howard Stark working on the SSS and Captain America.

[omega_man]

I'm sure it is the plot, or heavily involved in the plot, but if it needlessly involves Starks dad then that just east up time that could be spent developing characters, especially considering that all of these characters will have to fight for time to be developed.

If the secret affects this movie, for instance, Stark made the robots Hammer uses, then it is a waste of time and they should have had Hammer invent them himself.

If old man Starks secret impacts Captain America and Avengers, then the time spent is worth it.

you getting too worried most likely they going to spent some time to develop the characters. plus i remember hearing that this movie might end with a cliffhanger im not sure if its true but that could be very interesting.

[I Am The Bat]

The movie is already a bit of a mess. Lets face it, Thor takes place in another realm, captain America takes place in the past...so this movie has to set up Iron man 3, Avengers, Captain America and possibly Thor...heck, maybe even dealing with Hulk loose ends...and at the same time work War Machine into the action, Black Widow, Nick Fury, Whiplash, Pepper Potts, Justin Hammer...and some back story with Starks dad...and again, thats NOT including the Mandarin! The movie isnt 4 hours long...so you're already looking at a cramped film. If youre going to have a dark secret subplot with Starks dad, it better be a blockbuster or it just complicates an already complicated story.

I mean I get that... if that is the purpose of the movie... I don't think it is suppose to set up Avengers, Captain America, Thor, or The next Hulk... It'll probably be something like...

-Government is trying to get him... Too bad... move onto next plot piece
-Shield is trying to get Tony's info... Too bad... Send in Black Widow... Fight sequence... they don't kill each other cuz she is hot... she says something about Tony's father... then she disappears for a hour...
- Somewhere in between those two, Whiplash is like (Your daddy killed my daddy, now I'm going to use your daddy's tech to kill you)
- Whiplash... I KILL YOUR RACE CAR... HERE COMES IRON MAN... oh ****... something is wrong... I barley beat you cuz my chest piece was ****ing up... dat how you got away
- Tony... oh ****... my chest piece is ****ing up... I'm dying...
- Tony... oh ****... my dad was a real hero... oh ****... gotta worry about dying... I'll save my response to my daddy issues until after the credits (Or and alt version of this is that Black Widow isn't with SHIELD yet and is actually with Hammer trying to get Starks tech... Tells Tony something horrible about his dad... plants to proof... Tony gets drunk and goes to hang out in a donut)
- While trying to figure out why he is dying Tony finds out his dad made robots and worked with some iteration of SHIELD back in the day...
- Rhodes is like... well... while Tony is busy... He might need to be replaced... enter Warmachine via Hammer... who gets the information he needs to activate the robo killers
- Awwww **** ya... Tony figures out his **** right in time to save the world from Robos...
- Some stuff that provides us closure happens
- Credits
- Enter Sam Jackson... Tony says... "I'll do it."
- The End


Well... Now that I write that all out... it does sounds a bit complicated... :doh:

[protocida]

Back in the 1940's, during Stark-Expo, a world fair held in New York city to help solve the World's energy problems, Howard Stark supposedly did something to Dr. Anton Vanko. Something capable of creating an revenge wish so strong it was carried out by Anton's son, Ivan. Tony wants to find out what Howard did, and, in the process, also uncovers the truth behind his father's envolvement with...

... Project Rebirth, the Supersoldier program.

[Aesop Rocks]

:awesome:

[I Am The Bat]

Maybe we should get an organize plot hypothesizing thread going :)

[Aesop Rocks]

If you build it, they will come.

[Heretic]

I mean I get that... if that is the purpose of the movie... I don't think it is suppose to set up Avengers, Captain America, Thor, or The next Hulk... It'll probably be something like...

-Government is trying to get him... Too bad... move onto next plot piece
-Shield is trying to get Tony's info... Too bad... Send in Black Widow... Fight sequence... they don't kill each other cuz she is hot... she says something about Tony's father... then she disappears for a hour...
- Somewhere in between those two, Whiplash is like (Your daddy killed my daddy, now I'm going to use your daddy's tech to kill you)
- Whiplash... I KILL YOUR RACE CAR... HERE COMES IRON MAN... oh ****... something is wrong... I barley beat you cuz my chest piece was ****ing up... dat how you got away
- Tony... oh ****... my chest piece is ****ing up... I'm dying...
- Tony... oh ****... my dad was a real hero... oh ****... gotta worry about dying... I'll save my response to my daddy issues until after the credits (Or and alt version of this is that Black Widow isn't with SHIELD yet and is actually with Hammer trying to get Starks tech... Tells Tony something horrible about his dad... plants to proof... Tony gets drunk and goes to hang out in a donut)
- While trying to figure out why he is dying Tony finds out his dad made robots and worked with some iteration of SHIELD back in the day...
- Rhodes is like... well... while Tony is busy... He might need to be replaced... enter Warmachine via Hammer... who gets the information he needs to activate the robo killers
- Awwww **** ya... Tony figures out his **** right in time to save the world from Robos...
- Some stuff that provides us closure happens
- Credits
- Enter Sam Jackson... Tony says... "I'll do it."
- The End


Well... Now that I write that all out... it does sounds a bit complicated... :doh:

What you typed sounds complicated, AND you gave one scene to develop each plot point. The movie is walking a tight rope between telling an involved story and telling an 80s action film style story with no character development.

Until proven wrong then I am convinced that Tonys dad, Whiplashs dad and Captain America all interacted in WW2. This tells me that Tonys dad was likely a bad guy...considering that the government deemed Captain America a failure and didnt care about saving him. This Legacy that is on Starks shoulders could lead him to join a team...could lead him to find captain America...could lead him to drink heavily due to guilt. It makes sense and can all fit together, where no other theory Ive heard does.

[Redd]

Okay, so back on topic...

Does anyone have any ideas where the 3 clues lead to?

-Yes we know it involves Tony's past, but I mean a website or something...

[Aesop Rocks]

Only website I know of is the one from SDCC.

[protocida]

The Supersoldier program was considered a failure because...

. In the regular Universe, the man who created the Supersoldier Serum, Dr. Reinstein, was murdered by a Nazi spy. Since he kept all the secrets of the formula in his mind to protect it from spies, no one was able to perfectly mimic the formula.

. In the Ultimate Universe, every other test subject other than Steve Rogers died because their organisms wouldn't adapt to the Serum.

I find much easier to have one of these explanations than to make Tony's dad a villain.

[Heretic]

Yes, but in the movies, the super soldier program is considered a failure BUT Captain America had already had adventures which will be shown in the movie.

So, how is it a failure if it worked and created the greatest hero of all?????

Simple. It worked...but Captain America wouldnt do what he was asked to do...so they turned on him and deemed the project a failure.

[protocida]

Or maybe it's because Captain America, the only succesful Supersoldier, "died" in the end of the war and every other try to reactivate the project ressulted in chaos (An unspecified character in Vietnam and Hulk today).

[Heretic]

And they just left Cap in ice???

I cant imagine the Captain America movie ending with him losing...unless its to a villain they will have to take on later...which would be the United States military. the military are bad guy in Incredible Hulk, and they arent exactly good guys in iron man 2 since they are trying to force Tony to surrender the armor.

[Jostru]

And they just left Cap in ice???

I cant imagine the Captain America movie ending with him losing...unless its to a villain they will have to take on later...which would be the United States military. the military are bad guy in Incredible Hulk, and they arent exactly good guys in iron man 2 since they are trying to force Tony to surrender the armor.

I'm thinking Captain America will win, but barely. He's wounded very badly and ends up in the ice. Everybody thinks he's dead. BOOM. There you have it.

[Heretic]

So, how do the other strands play in?

[Aesop Rocks]

Yes, but in the movies, the super soldier program is considered a failure BUT Captain America had already had adventures which will be shown in the movie.

So, how is it a failure if it worked and created the greatest hero of all?????

Simple. It worked...but Captain America wouldnt do what he was asked to do...so they turned on him and deemed the project a failure.

This.

Plus, Captain America with his shield is an army on it's own.

[Aesop Rocks]

And they just left Cap in ice???

I cant imagine the Captain America movie ending with him losing...unless its to a villain they will have to take on later...which would be the United States military. the military are bad guy in Incredible Hulk, and they arent exactly good guys in iron man 2 since they are trying to force Tony to surrender the armor.

Easy there, this is what I think happens.


Steve stops a bomb from reaching USA but falls into the ocean as a result of it. When he wakes up, everyone will be is enemy at the start, he's in the future, surrounded by people he doesn't know and new tech he will probably never understand. Steve will side with the military when he realizes what The Hulk is, raw rage. The military isn't the bad guy at all, they're just protecting innocent civilians from The Hulk, like in TIH, Ross says The Hulk killed countless civilians. And in Iron Man 2, they're not villains at all, Stark was a military poster-child for more than half his life. He made them amazing, new weapons. And they're just mad he won't share his/the worlds greatest weapon for military use on the battlefield. Which is what he was going completely against. If he gave over his suit to the military, he might as well blow himself and all his Iron Man suits up.

[I Am The Bat]

Okay, so back on topic...

Does anyone have any ideas where the 3 clues lead to?

-Yes we know it involves Tony's past, but I mean a website or something...

Didn't really work well... did it?

[Aesop Rocks]

:huh:

[Heretic]

Easy there, this is what I think happens.


Steve stops a bomb from reaching USA but falls into the ocean as a result of it. When he wakes up, everyone will be is enemy at the start, he's in the future, surrounded by people he doesn't know and new tech he will probably never understand. Steve will side with the military when he realizes what The Hulk is, raw rage. The military isn't the bad guy at all, they're just protecting innocent civilians from The Hulk, like in TIH, Ross says The Hulk killed countless civilians. And in Iron Man 2, they're not villains at all, Stark was a military poster-child for more than half his life. He made them amazing, new weapons. And they're just mad he won't share his/the worlds greatest weapon for military use on the battlefield. Which is what he was going completely against. If he gave over his suit to the military, he might as well blow himself and all his Iron Man suits up.

I'm fine with that. I'm just not sure sure how Starks dad really plays into that in a way that causes Tony to go looking for Cap...or a way that involves Crimson Dynamo.

[Aesop Rocks]

Starks dad plays into it because well, Starks dad is almost the most important person in the Marvel Filmverse, to-date.

[I Am The Bat]

Starks dad plays into it because well, Starks dad is almost the important person in the Marvel Filmverse, to-date.

I get why he is important... were you trying to say he is almost the most important?

[Heretic]

I dont get why he is important...they have to handle all of that in iron Man 2 while also handling everything else. He was involved with creating captain America who fought in World War 2 and then was presumed dead. The Soviets were our allies in WW2, and yet old man Stark did something to Crimson Dynamo that caused his son to seek revenge. Captain America could clear all this up if he wasnt presumed dead and in a block of ice. Tony discovers a dark secret about his dad by digging in his house.

How does all of this lead to "Tonys dad was a good person" when his dark secret involves a bunch of dead people?

[protocida]

Whatever Tony's dad might have done to Ivan's dad, it doesn't seem to have nothing to do with the Supersoldier program. Tony accidentaly finds out about it while he's investigating his father's past. Ivan's dad is not a military scientist as far as we know. And you can't discart the possibility that Tony's dad didn't do nothing and Ivan's dad is just blaming him for his or a third person's acts.

And Tony's dad (Lets just call him "Howard" :hehe:) made Cap's shield, among other things.

[Aesop Rocks]

I dont get why he is important...they have to handle all of that in iron Man 2 while also handling everything else. He was involved with creating captain America who fought in World War 2 and then was presumed dead. The Soviets were our allies in WW2, and yet old man Stark did something to Crimson Dynamo that caused his son to seek revenge. Captain America could clear all this up if he wasnt presumed dead and in a block of ice. Tony discovers a dark secret about his dad by digging in his house.

How does all of this lead to "Tonys dad was a good person" when his dark secret involves a bunch of dead people?

Well, for one, he made Stark possible. ;)

I think Howard Stark is important right now because with his knowledge of everything SSS, there could be a new insight to a cure for Bruce Banner, the location of Captain America, closer for Stark hell, maybe The Avengers was even Starks idea and SHIELD has been around long enough...

I know where you're coming from with all this being cramped into one movie and, I agree with you. But I trust Favreau and Marvel enough.

[protocida]

Look at The Dark Knight's plot, by example. It is huge and full of details, but the movie covered everything up (And even went a little overlong :hehe:). We don't even know the runtime yet. Let's chill.

[Aesop Rocks]

I'm saying 2 1/2

[Jostru]

I'm saying 2 1/2

Sounds about right. But I doubt it will be any longer. It'll be between 2 hours and 2 hours and a half.

[Heretic]

By the way, all of this discussion just goes to show how utterly boring this viral campaign is. This is a major fail for the film.

[I Am The Bat]

By the way, all of this discussion just goes to show how utterly boring this viral campaign is. This is a major fail for the film.

/agree

[Aesop Rocks]

Outside of the people "following" it, it's a fail.

[Heretic]

Even the people following it are busying themselves with other topics, waiting for things to get interesting. Announcing that it's a game, even posting links to the next clue on Twitter, is not how to run a viral...and if thats how you run it...it better be good. This is not good. Its dull. Not all films can have a brilliant viral like The Dark Knight, but many films have cool viral campaigns. This is just boring, boring, boring.

[I Am The Bat]

God we are dumb...

http://www.starksecretconfessionrevealed.com/

[I Am The Bat]

Double Post

[Aesop Rocks]

is that a legit site?

[I Am The Bat]

is that a legit site?

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[I Am The Bat]

It was created on 12/08... sooooooo

[I Am The Bat]

and this from Apple Trailer's Twitter...

iTunesTrailers

The countdown has begun. We are debuting the new Iron Man 2 trailer @ 4:08PST http://www.apple.com/trailers/ #nowplaying #ironman2

IT IS COMING

[I Am The Bat]

double

[Khemik@L]

God we are dumb...

http://www.starksecretconfessionrevealed.com/

Did you google that? How did you find it. Especially how did you get the last word "revealed" was it just a hunch. Nice find by the way

[I Am The Bat]

triple

[I Am The Bat]

Did you google that? How did you find it. Especially how did you get the last word "revealed" was it just a hunch. Nice find by the way

No SHH posted it... I wonder who Mirko P from Houston is...

[I Am The Bat]

and why 4:08? That is a strange #...

[Superhero Hype!]

No SHH posted it... I wonder who Mirko P from Houston is...

Me. :)

[I Am The Bat]

Me. :)

Did you figure it out... or did Paramount or whatever send something?

[Superhero Hype!]

I figured it out.

[I Am The Bat]

I figured it out.

Well then :applaud:bow::bow::applaud

What did the site look it before the hour countdown started?

[Heretic]

It has nothing to do with us being dumb. They spoon fed us words in the easiest code to crack in history, and then didnt give us the last part of the website. That isnt clever or intriguing. Its just lazy.

[Khemik@L]

I figured it out.

So wait a minute. Did the count down start as a result of you finding the site?

[Superhero Hype!]

Yes.

[Aesop Rocks]

This is why I love SHH! The admins do such amazing, badass things.

[Superhero Hype!]

Well then :applaud:bow::bow::applaud

What did the site look it before the hour countdown started?

Just had a form where I put in my name. I thought it would be a collective thing where more and more people had to sign up to launch the trailer, but to my surprise the countdown started as soon as i pushed submit.

[Heretic]

So, superhero hype was involved in the viral campaign, and the administrator of the sites forum figured it out.

Lame.

[Heretic]

So, superhero hype was involved in the viral campaign, and the administrator of the sites forum figured it out.

Lame.

[I Am The Bat]

Just had a form where I put in my name. I thought it would be a collective thing where more and more people had to sign up to launch the trailer, but to my surprise the countdown started as soon as i pushed submit.

Sooooo You are Mirko P.

[Heretic]

Long story short: The viral campaign bombed. No one sat at their computer for hours typing in random urls until they found it...so one of the websites involved in the viral was told to go ahead and solve it and tell their readers...

Such an awesome viral campaign guys. The trailer looks awesome...but get it together.

[I Am The Bat]

Long story short: The viral campaign bombed. No one sat at their computer for hours typing in random urls until they found it...so one of the websites involved in the viral was told to go ahead and solve it and tell their readers...

Such an awesome viral campaign guys. The trailer looks awesome...but get it together.

Sigh... They still have 5 months... maybe they'll get something going and do something like the TDK did and give away tickets...

[Heretic]

Maybe they will.

The thing is, I feel for them. There must always be a huge desire to run a viral, but iron man just doesnt lend itself to one. Batman is a detective, so it works out...horror movies that promote to internet dorks work by convincing people that it's real. Iron Man isn't mysterious or anything...it's just a great action/sci fi character. His rogues gallery isnt well known enough to base something around either.

[I Am The Bat]

WTF...

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/the-last-iron-man-clue-8803

[I Am The Bat]

Sooo... Come on... This gives us more... I think there is more...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/BigChillin/4_revealed.jpg

[Anita18]

Long story short: The viral campaign bombed. No one sat at their computer for hours typing in random urls until they found it...so one of the websites involved in the viral was told to go ahead and solve it and tell their readers...

Such an awesome viral campaign guys. The trailer looks awesome...but get it together.
Heh, usually a viral is solved by one person after many, many people see the clue. But yeah, it's usually a random player, not one of the messengers. :oldrazz:

And actually, some of the clues in TDK were solved by blind dumb luck as well (and one time we plain up cheated :funny: ), although we always had the information needed to solve it properly.

I've read a blog post that theorized that 42Entertainment, who was behind the TDK ARG, is behind this. They're not. They have a strict policy of not interacting with the players at all during a game. It's supposed to be an "alternate reality," not "here's some clues, have at it." Instead of recruiting websites to relay the jpegs, they would have put up the articles (with highlighting) up on a billboard or pasted around major cities. Not this.

Maybe they will.

The thing is, I feel for them. There must always be a huge desire to run a viral, but iron man just doesnt lend itself to one. Batman is a detective, so it works out...horror movies that promote to internet dorks work by convincing people that it's real. Iron Man isn't mysterious or anything...it's just a great action/sci fi character. His rogues gallery isnt well known enough to base something around either.
TDK had the luxury of having the Joker, who can work underground to recruit minions, and it worked beautifully into the movie's storyline itself. I think that's the common thread among all ARGs - you need some kind of subversive, curious aspect of it that compels players to find out what's going on.

They've also simply made additional storylines for movies that don't have that subversive aspect. Star Trek's ARG involved characters not in the movie itself, Vulcans who got lost time traveling and ended up on Earth, and players tried to help them escape the Romulans and relay their message. They also went with extra characters in the A.I ARG, and that was one of the earliest pioneers of the medium.

Just because there's nothing in the movie's storyline to investigate, doesn't mean you can't have a good ARG.

[Aesop Rocks]

Maybe they will.

The thing is, I feel for them. There must always be a huge desire to run a viral, but iron man just doesnt lend itself to one. Batman is a detective, so it works out...horror movies that promote to internet dorks work by convincing people that it's real. Iron Man isn't mysterious or anything...it's just a great action/sci fi character. His rogues gallery isnt well known enough to base something around either.

The Cloverfield monster was actually a P.I. :whatever:

[I Am The Bat]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/BigChillin/Screenshot2009-12-16at82105PM.png

Not marked up in the trailer...

[I Am The Bat]

What does that say?

Howard Stark and who else?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/BigChillin/Screenshot2009-12-16at82447PM.png

[I Am The Bat]

Anton Vanko...

[Aesop Rocks]

Hey, good find! Although the viral for all we know is "dead".

[I Am The Bat]

Hey, good find! Although the viral for all we know is "dead".

It was also dead when we didn't get anything back from StarkIndustriesnow.com :P

[omega_man]

that viral died so quick lol

but there might be some other clues

[I Am The Bat]

What happened in 1969?