The G.I. Joe Box Office Prediction Thread

[terry78]

I know we have a b.o. possibility thread, but as of late, it's looking more and more like this will make a larger profit than we assumed. Right now I'm looking about about 80 mil for the weekend, similar to Fast and Furious.

[DOG LIPS]

Even at it's worst, as far as news was concerned, I knew the name alone would make this movie some serious cash. But with the commercials kicked into overdrive, and the studio paying off thousands of people for positive reviews(:oldrazz:), I think it will be a big hit. I'm guessing $70-$80 mill for opening weekend.

[enterthemadness]

200 million world wide, but under 100 million Domestic me thinks. I know the sneak preview I went to was sold out...but I still think it be a 30 million ish opening for it here. I think a sequel were only get greenlight if the movie opens to like 65+ here somehow.

[Doctor Jones]

$30 - 40$ million for me.

[Nirvana]

With the positive reviews, lack of action-oriented movies out, the overall disappointment of the summer so far, excellent marketing and the name brand alone...I can see this movie having a very similar opening to Star Trek in the $70 mils range. That's just a guess, though.

[FCEEVIPER]

100-200 million.

[Doctor Jones]

Are you kidding me dude? No way in hell is it gonna make that much opening weekend.

[FCEEVIPER]

Are you kidding me dude? No way in hell is it gonna make that much opening weekend.
Read below...
What will the Joes make overall worldwide?
:cwink:

[Doctor Jones]

Oh... sorry about that...

[FCEEVIPER]

No worries. :)

[Avalanche™]

im calling 68, the reviews have been great for a movie like this so far. bu i think they will go down when more people vote it.

i just dont see alot of people watching it, i dont know why, since this is probably the last summer blockbuster. and its gonna be a fun movie to watch, i really hope im wrong

[lou2099]

33 million opening weekend. 120 total domestically.

[Theweepeople]

Here is comingsoon.net's prediction for the weekend.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/weekendwarriornews.php?id=57727


They've been wrong before but, they are usually pretty accurate with their predictions. I'm not sure if Paramount would greenlight a sequel if the film falls into the projected domestic gross range. The worldwide gross will have to be fantastic for us to get a sequel.

[FCEEVIPER]

45 million opening weekend.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think it's legs are going to be s**t (but who knows Transformers 2 has been having a pretty good run) but it should open well seeing as how it's the last Summer blockbuster movie.

I have no faith in moviegoers after Transformers 2 so I'm going to predict an opening weekend of 55mil.

It's August so it has very little chance of opening with much more than that.

I personally would be surprised if it opened with less than 35mil though.

[terry78]

August always has that one big movie that you think would have been released earlier in summer but still manages to be a blockbuster. Mummy 3, Rush Hour 3, Superbad, etc.

[Dark Helmet]

With the way things have been for this movie this movie will make most of its money in the U.S. & be the opposite of Terminator Salvation Box Offiice wise

[Darthkush]

I'm gonna say it makes 60 million opening weekend and finishes with 140-160 million. I think if the positive hype started a little earlier in the summer, it could go higher but that didn't happen. We'll see. If it somehow crawls to 200 million, I'll be VERY pleased though.

[Snickers]

205 million

[xwolverine2]

word of mouth is gonna hurt this movie like poison
however it'll still make a fortune lol

[Theweepeople]

41% at rotten tomatoes right now and the mainstream critics still have not seen it yet. At this rate I wouldn't be surprised to see this film fall below 20% after all the reviews are in. I'm truly beginning to wonder if those rumors about Lorenzo and Stephen Sommers are true yet, I'm still seeing this on saturday regardless of the negative reviews.

[Advocate05]

I think it will make back what it cost to produce it and probably One hundred million more.

So I'd say ... 325 million. This is also before DVD sales and toys, etc.

[Nivek]

Given audiences, who knows. I'll say about $200 million world wide.

Hopefully it make less than $100 million (hell, I want it to bomb Snakes on a Plane" hard). But that is me being a Negative Nancy.

[terry78]

To be honest, the first Transformers got horrendous reviews, but Ebert and a few random critics enjoyed it for what it was. The fact that your childhood property is coming to the screen somewhat intact is more than enough for a lot of the fanbase though. Don't forget a lot of older peeps were into G.I. Joe back in the day, so they'll go see it as well as the younger set.

[Timstuff]

Given audiences, who knows. I'll say about $200 million world wide.

Hopefully it make less than $100 million (hell, I want it to bomb Snakes on a Plane" hard). But that is me being a Negative Nancy.

You drank the haterade! :cmad:

Seriously though, what do you have invested in this movie's failure? What will you gain if it is a flop? This ain't IMDB.

[Doctor Jones]

Probably because of the innacuracies of the source material which these days the complaints are really getting more childish.

[TheVileOne]

Estimates predict the movie did about $2 million for the midnight showings. Not that the midnight showings were made out to be a big deal though.

[Darthkush]

FINALLY, A FILM FOR FLYOVER COUNTRY: 'G.I. Joe' Doesn't Tank! Opens To $22M Today For Possible $55M Domestic And $35M Foreign Weekend; 'Julie & Julia' Counter-Programs Successfully For $20M Wkd (http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/early-box-office-g-i-joe-has-real-shot-at-20m-today-and-55m-weekend-julie-julia-looks-7-5m-today-and-20m-weekend/)

FRIDAY PM UPDATE: With a big pricetag of $175 million, and bad buzz preceding it, G.I. Joe seemed certain to tank. All that time, Paramount's claims that the movie worked fell on deaf ears. Not until the pic came on tracking with incredibly high awareness among males. Now, despite all the sniping and snarking, it looks to open for a $55M North American weekend after earning $22M today from a huge release into 4,007 theaters. That would be a great result if the film weren't so expensive. But added to box office grosses will be other revenue streams. "This property will sell 100's of millions of dollars of toys that we get a royalty in," a Paramount exec reminds me. "And given the action, this will be a huge seller on DVD." G.I. Joe also opened day and date in 75% of its foreign territories. Although I've heard reports from rival studios that ticket sales were "disappointing" in Australia (where the pic opened #2 to the Sony romantic comedy Ugly Truth), early numbers from Asia are said to be "huge". One projection for overseas grosses this weekend is $35M -- despite what is sure to be some Anti-American military sentiment in, say, parts of Europe. (C'mon, this movie is called G.I. Joe!) But in the U.S., the studio expects the film to do best in so-called flyover country -- with blue-collar moviegoers in the Midwest, South, and West where the common complaint is that liberal elite Hollywood doesn't make movies for their "God, guns, and country" tastes. Indeed, this pic's strength is that it doesn't suffer from any moral ambiguity: there are good guys, bad guys, and nothing inbetween. "With this domestic opening, and the early international results, the film should be on its way to $300 million worldwide," a Paramount exec predicted to me tonight.

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/

hmmm...good but not amazing. I just hope it can hold a little bit next weekend. For those who liked it, it has to at least do okay during it's second weekend if we want a sequel.

[terry78]

Why is it a film for flyover country? Because it has to do with the military? :rolleyes:

[Doctor Jones]

This will be big oversees. Especially in Asia. You know how they like the special effects extravaganzas. They'll eat it up.

[deathshead2]

Why is it a film for flyover country? Because it has to do with the military? :rolleyes:
No. The studios think they can't sell this movie to those in big citys or the North(There seen as more intelligent), while those out west are still seen as slow farmers who will get the picture of what there selling.

[Nivek]

No. The studios think they can't sell this movie to those in big citys or the North(There seen as more intelligent), while those out west are still seen as slow farmers who will get the picture of what there selling.

Good way to put it.

[Timstuff]

The movie is a positive portrayal of the armed forces, which is a stark contrast to all of the recent Iraq war dramas which negatively depict the miliatary (and subsequently flopped at the box office). In this day and age of economical on geopolitical strife, I think people want a movie that makes them feel good, which is why GI Joe can be a hit while a movie like Jarhead flops. It's a fun, straightforward good vs. evil story, which is something most people can easily identify with and enjoy.

[deathshead2]

The movie is a positive portrayal of the armed forces, which is a stark contrast to all of the recent Iraq war dramas which negatively depict the miliatary (and subsequently flopped at the box office). In this day and age of economical on geopolitical strife, I think people want a movie that makes them feel good, which is why GI Joe can be a hit while a movie like Jarhead flops. It's a fun, straightforward good vs. evil story, which is something most people can easily identify with and enjoy.Wreaking Paris isn't that positive... wait what am I thinking this is America, we make fun of the French. If this was any other city the armed forces would be seen as a bunch of idiots. Paris, is o.k though.

[rogue trooper]

I really hope this movie does well for one primary reason; its success, along with Transformers', will likely get a He-Man movie the greenlight faster.:cwink:

[Nivek]

Wreaking Paris isn't that positive... wait what am I thinking this is America, we make fun of the French.

I'm hearing a bunch of people who have seen it referring to this as a live action Team America movie. Given the clips and comments around the net, I really think this has more weight to it than some positive posters would like to admit. Someone even mentioned red, white, and blue camouflage clothing (not sure if that's true).

[The Guard]

TEAM AMERICA was an obvious ripoff of GI JOE/THUNDERBIRDS concepts. There are similar elements for sure. But this isn't as ridiculously patriotic as the movies TEAM AMERICA parodied, nor was it quite as melodramatic.

[deathshead2]

I really hope this movie does well for one primary reason; its success, along with Transformers', will likely get a He-Man movie the greenlight faster.:cwink:well they've been working on that awhile. I think that Kung Fu Panda guy is still on as director.

I'm also hoeping this does well. Now I haven't see it(8:30 tonight I will), but I'm a huge joe fan. I don't like the cartoon and never owned one of the toys, but I do own a complete run of the Devil Due comic and I'm up to 30 on Marvels with an origianl copy of issue 21. If this does well, I'm hopeing like you to see Masters moved quicker, Voltron, and Thundercats.

[Nivek]

TEAM AMERICA was an obvious ripoff of GI JOE/THUNDERBIRDS concepts. There are similar elements for sure. But this isn't as ridiculously patriotic as the movies TEAM AMERICA parodied, nor was it quite as melodramatic.


But they apparently trash Paris destroying landmarks, property, and kill bunches of people chasing Cobra (blowing up the Eiffel Tower even), right? That was an actual plot point, right? I also heard Hawk end up in a Wheelchair too (just like Spotswoode), isn't that right?

The more I read in reviews, the more it confirms my suspicions of being correct.

[rogue trooper]

well they've been working on that awhile. I think that Kung Fu Panda guy is still on as director.

I'm also hoeping this does well. Now I haven't see it(8:30 tonight I will), but I'm a huge joe fan. I don't like the cartoon and never owned one of the toys, but I do own a complete run of the Devil Due comic and I'm up to 30 on Marvels with an origianl copy of issue 21. If this does well, I'm hopeing like you to see Masters moved quicker, Voltron, and Thundercats.

Yep, forgot to add Thundercats.:up: This one and He-Man would be my two favorites, being a huge fan of the blend of sci-fi and sword & sorcery.

[deathshead2]

But they apparently trash Paris destroying landmarks, property, and kill bunches of people chasing Cobra (blowing up the Eiffel Tower even), right? That was an actual plot point, right? I also heard Hawk end up in a Wheelchair too (just like Spotswoode), isn't that right?

The more I read in reviews, the more it confirms my suspicions of being correct.Hey thats in the comics.

[Nivek]

Hawk was never in a wheelchair in the old Marvel comics, is that in the newer IDW rehash books?

[terry78]

Basically most of the stuff Team America did was snatched from G.I. Joe. Anything G.I. Joe does is stuff they originally did.

[deathshead2]

Hawk was never in a wheelchair in the old Marvel comics, is that in the newer IDW rehash books?
In the Devils Due run which talks place a few years after Marvels.

[Nivek]

Team America was riffing on Thunderbirds, not G.I. Joe.

[Timstuff]

It was riffing on Thunderbirds and GI Joe.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Looks like GI Joe is going to perform exactly as I predicted as far as opening weekend goes.

Next up legs inbetween Van Helsings and Fantastic Four. I expect a drop today of over 10%.

So far the numbers haven't been remotely surprising one way or the other. The opening isn't bad at all but it's far from amazing.

[The Guard]

But they apparently trash Paris destroying landmarks, property, and kill bunches of people chasing Cobra (blowing up the Eiffel Tower even), right? That was an actual plot point, right? I also heard Hawk end up in a Wheelchair too (just like Spotswoode), isn't that right?

The more I read in reviews, the more it confirms my suspicions of being correct.

Your suspicious of what? A few basic similarities to TEAM AMERICA, which itself, is a broad parody OF things like THUNDERBIRD, GI JOE, and big action movies in general?

They trash SOME of Paris. And by they, I mean COBRA, not the Joes. It's a much different scenario.

In TEAM AMERICA, the heroes are indiscriminately blasting at everything that moves, and they manage to destroy several key landmarks by being careless and stupid.

In GI JOE, the terrorists destroy the Eiffel Tower, because they're pretty damn capable, and because that was their plan from the start.

Hawk ends up in a wheelchair because he had just recovered from an attack by Storm Shadow, and because that's a nod to the comics.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/GIJoe34Hawk.jpg

When the Joe team managed to capture one of Cobra's high ranking officers, Destro, Destro offered to help them capture Cobra Commander in exchange for his freedom. A plan was put into effect, and Cobra attacked to rescue Destro. During the action, Hawk was shot in the waist by Cobra Commander, who was in turn shot by the Baroness and captured. Hawk lapsed into a coma in which he had a dream where he was finally retiring and settling down with his wife, who in reality was long dead. He then visited Cobra Commander in prison and the two argued before Cobra Commander moved from the shadows to reveal Hawk's face. When Hawk woke up he learned that he the bullet that hit him was lodged within his spine and it has left him paralyzed below the waist.

So yes, there are a few similarities, but they're not ripping off "Team America" if that's what you're implying.

[Doctor Jones]

Nivek's opinion doesn't have any relevance until he has seen the movie.

[He-Man]

$56Mil Domestic. $100Mil World Wide.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ia1FPSxXY_CtWNU2djwNxRbGiU3wD99VF42G0

LOS ANGELES — G.I. Joe is the latest toy to invade Hollywood and plant its blockbuster flag.

Inspired by the Hasbro action figure, "G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra" took command of the weekend box office with a $56.2 million debut domestically. Worldwide, "G.I. Joe" has marched to $100 million.

"G.I. Joe" follows the "Transformers" franchise as the latest toy story to find success on the big screen.

Meryl Streep's Julia Childs tale "Julie & Julia" opened a solid No. 2 as an alternative for adult crowds with $20.1 million.

While "G.I. Joe" was the first choice for young males, women 35 and older were the main audience for "Julie & Julia."

[He-Man]

Double

[He-Man]

$56Mil Domestic. $100Mil World Wide.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ia1FPSxXY_CtWNU2djwNxRbGiU3wD99VF42G0

LOS ANGELES — G.I. Joe is the latest toy to invade Hollywood and plant its blockbuster flag.

Inspired by the Hasbro action figure, "G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra" took command of the weekend box office with a $56.2 million debut domestically. Worldwide, "G.I. Joe" has marched to $100 million.

"G.I. Joe" follows the "Transformers" franchise as the latest toy story to find success on the big screen.

Meryl Streep's Julia Childs tale "Julie & Julia" opened a solid No. 2 as an alternative for adult crowds with $20.1 million.

While "G.I. Joe" was the first choice for young males, women 35 and older were the main audience for "Julie & Julia."

[terry78]

Well, not too shabby for a first property effort. They'll go ahead with the sequel now.

[BlackLantern]

my sister, whos an assistant manager a Regal Cinemas had 2 sold out showings yesterday...and 1 today so far

[Nightmare]

56 million!

[Timstuff]

Nice. Looks like a sequel is all but confirmed now, since the movie is well on its way to bringing in profit. :up:

It would have been nice if it could have beat Borne Ultimatum's 69 million record, but hey, this is a new film franchise while BU was a threequel, thus positioning it for a much bigger opening. With the third largest August opening on record though, GI Joe has at least earned its opening weekend stripes!

I'm hopeful that with the sequel, they'll give it a 4th of July weekend release date since it'll likely be tracking a much bigger opening (as sequels usually do). Since Michael Bay's next Transformers movie is likely at least 3 years away (he's said that he's taking a break to do a small personal project first), GI Joe will probably be carrying the torch for Paramount and Hasbro a year before TF3's release, thus giving it top priority rather than secondary.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Good opening but it's frontloaded as all get out. The problem is the movie cost 175+mil to make and it's obviously looking at average at best legs. Still the movie is going to make more money than most thought at the start of this year so I could see a sequel thats going to fail coming down the pipe. Although Van Helsing made some change too and it didn't get a sequel.

I believe that sat to sun drop is going to be bigger than 17.7% so that 56.2mil is probably not going to happen.

Again good opening but the saturday drop is terrible and the movie is looking at lame legs unless the movie unknowningly really clicked with audiences. The studio can be proud that they tricked probably 300mil worldwide worth of people to see the film but it's far from a Transformers situation.

[Tony Stark]

I don't know what it was projected to make. 56 is a good opening number, but I don't think it's going to remaketh 176 mill production budget domestically.

I just hope Paramount is patient and allows for a sequel. So long as there isn't a disasterous 2nd weekend, I think they should do a sequel, but they have to bring the production budget in line for the next one.

[Dr. Evil]

It will probably do well in week two, unless the buzz for District Nine is great. It will be interesting to see if this film has legs in two weeks when those Inglorious Basterds invade the theaters.

[Doctor Jones]

It's not gonna last long. It comes down to word of the mouth too. The kids will eat it up, maybe wanting to see them again.

Even if this film doesn't do all that well, there's still the merchandise, which no doubt has sprung up because of the film. A sequel will produce more and people will keep buying.

[Nightmare]

More Money! More Money!

Toys R Us has a special on figures, 2 for $10.

[terry78]

District 9 may do well, but we'll see if it turns into another Watchmen situation, because people are going in thinking we're the good guys kicking alien ass, when that is nowhere near the case. And if it gets preachy, watch out.

[BlackLantern]

District 9 may do well, but we'll see if it turns into another Watchmen situation, because people are going in thinking we're the good guys kicking alien ass, when that is nowhere near the case. And if it gets preachy, watch out.

people aren't looking for that in the movies these days

[terry78]

It's obvious that it's an allegory on civil rights/apartheid, but I doubt too many will get the message.

[Timstuff]

More Money! More Money!

Toys R Us has a special on figures, 2 for $10.

When does the offer end? I may find myself having to go there this coming week...

Anyway, I think D9 will make money, but mostly because it's got a very small budget (supposedly $30m). It seems like more of a niche film though, because first of all it's R-rated, and secondly because it's going to be a lot lighter on action and effects, and a lot heavier on message. I think people who see it will like it, but I don't imagine the WOM with the general audience well get as far as with GI Joe since a lot of people might say it was boring or preachy. I don't really see it stealing away a lot of GI Joe's audience, but we'll see.

[Nivek]

Well, not too shabby for a first property effort. They'll go ahead with the sequel now.

It made about what Hulk made it's opening weekend, right?

[Dark Victory]

Solid opening, but the fim will need legs to warrant a sequel. This will need good WOM, like Star Trek, if it's really going to bring in serious dinero. At my showing, the response was pretty negative so I don't really see that happening. Next week, we have District 9 which has been getting nothing but good reviews so far, but I don't really know if the GA wants to see it. Then on the 21st we have Inglorious Basterds which will definitely bring in some numbers. I think by the end of its run, the film will bring in around $100-110 million domestically. The real question is how the hell did this cost $170 million!?!

[TheVileOne]

Sort of a weak opening weekend for a movie like this. Comparable to Sommer's last movie Van Helsing which was released *FIVE* years ago. So its not as impressive today.

Van Helsing made $300 million worldwide, never got a sequel. This movie probably won't be #1 next week.

ITS NOT getting word of mouth like Star Trek. It had significant dropoffs on Saturday and Sunday. Star Trek, that didn't happen. A sign of good word of mouth is going up on a Saturday with a decent sized dropoff on Sunday. Didn't happen here.

[bullets]

Kids will want to go bakc and see this. The rest of us should be watching District 9 next week.

[terry78]

I know some parents will probably take their brats to D9 totally disregarding the rating. Then they'll trade in tix for Joe again.

[TheVileOne]

This isn't Transformers 2.

[Timstuff]

And niether is District 9. :o

I think District 9 will make money due to its low budget, but it's not going to reach a terribly big audience. The commercials make it look like an action sci-fi movie, but it's really more of a faux-documentary with an action scene or two thrown in. I've seen the original short version and it's very good, but I think a lot of people are going to complain that it's slow and / or preachy, so don't expect it to get great WOM post-release amongst average viewers. It's going to be a good movie, but it's also going to be a niche movie. At best, I see it being another Cloverfield in terms of reception, which would be admirable but I think GI Joe has a decent shot at retaining its #1 spot next week if Paramount keeps on pushing the adverts. Also, District 9 is rated R, while both GI Joe and Cloverfield (the closest movie I can probably compare D9 to) are PG-13. It could go either way IMO, but if D9 does beat GI Joe, it will be because of a big droppoff of GI Joe's part, not because D9 is a movie that everyone is flocking to see instead.

The entertainment journalists are all calling GI Joe's opening a success, so take that as you may. I think the movie should have pretty good legs until most kids and college students go back to school. GI Joe is the kind of movie kids are going to watch a whole bunch of times, and most parents stick to kid-friendly fare at the movies rather than taking them to R-rated movies (going by box office #'s, at least).

Lastly, GI Joe's box office revenue is supplimented by merchandising, which is HUGE for this movie. I know some people are going to bring up how Superman Returns had merchandise and isn't getting a sequel, but comparing the merchandise for SR to GI Joe is like comparing a lemonade stand to a Starbucks. SR's merchandise wasn't terribly popular. Pretty much everything ended up on clearance within a month or two of the DVD release because kids weren't buying, whereas GI Joe has always sold well, and with the backing of a movie its popularity is getting a huge boost. Paramount gets a cut of the toy revenues, so even if the movie takes a slight loss after the final tally, if they make a profit through the merchandise they're not going to care as much.

So again, the big question is what kind of legs the movie will have. Is it going to see a huge dropoff the second week and end up grossing only 35 million or less, or could it pull another Star Trek and manage to nearly match its opening gross in the second week? It wouldn't be unheard of since GI Joe's opening gross was smaller than ST's, and given that it's recieiving positive WOM from the GA it will be getting new viewers this week in addition to the returning viewers. If it does manage to make 45-53 million in its second week, we can pretty well say it's well on its way to making profit, but even if not, as I said earlier the merchandising revenue alone will likely be enough to get Paramount to green light a sequel. Also, maybe they'll try for an early July release next time, since it likely won't be releasing the same year as Transformers 3.

[Heretic]

I did not want to contribute to the box office, so I bought tickets to The Hangover and walked into the GI Joe theater...then decided to go see The Hangover instead.

[BlackLantern]

I did not want to contribute to the box office, so I bought tickets to The Hangover and walked into the GI Joe theater...then decided to go see The Hangover instead.

you, sir, are a paragon of virtue and standards:oldrazz:

[Doctor Jones]

D9 may make less than $20 mil. Basterds will make a little more than $20 mil.

Or more from each. People are expecting action films from these two when in fact they aren't and the audiences probably won't get those two movies. So the drop off could decrease, leaving Joe (which probably will make less next week) could maybe finish the summer off with over $100 million. Could of been made for a lower budget. A new property unless you are confident in it shouldn't be made for more than $150 million.

[Assassin]

And niether is District 9. :o

I think District 9 will make money due to its low budget, but it's not going to reach a terribly big audience. The commercials make it look like an action sci-fi movie, but it's really more of a faux-documentary with an action scene or two thrown in. I've seen the original short version and it's very good, but I think a lot of people are going to complain that it's slow and / or preachy, so don't expect it to get great WOM post-release amongst average viewers. It's going to be a good movie, but it's also going to be a niche movie. At best, I see it being another Cloverfield in terms of reception, which would be admirable but I think GI Joe has a decent shot at retaining its #1 spot next week if Paramount keeps on pushing the adverts. Also, District 9 is rated R, while both GI Joe and Cloverfield (the closest movie I can probably compare D9 to) are PG-13. It could go either way IMO, but if D9 does beat GI Joe, it will be because of a big droppoff of GI Joe's part, not because D9 is a movie that everyone is flocking to see instead.

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Really? Have you seen the movie? Because I saw it Last week and it was much much more than that. Yes it starts off like a faux documentary, but it has more to offer than that. It doesnt preach anything like outright, it has symbolism, and that it takes place in south africa its pretty obvious what it is. if you go into it wanting a good scifi film, you get that, if you want a drama, it has that, action, way more than "one or two scenes". If the viewer is smart, he will get the message thats in the film. If the viewer goes in to watch a good movie, they'll get that too.

[lou2099]

It's August, it's finally hot outside, we're in a global recession, 56 mil is great scratch.

[Timstuff]

I didn't say it wouldn't be good. I think it's going to kick ass, but I am skeptical of how much of GI Joe's audience it manages to take away, especially since GI Joe will still have the kid demographic locked up.

[Assassin]

so you didnt see it?

[BlackLantern]

so you didnt see it?

It's not something I'd bring my 11 yr old nephew to (District 9)

[FCEEVIPER]

G.I. Joe Rise Of Cobra SEQUEL CONFIRMED (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2009/08/gi-joe-opens-to-100-million-worldwide-but-will-it-hold.html)

The Los Angeles Times has posted an article about the opening weekend sales for G.I. Joe Rise of Cobra, which earned $100 million worldwide. In addition, they mentioned another interesting tidbit of information:

That's certainly good enough for Paramount to claim victory, however, and start thinking about the future. The studio's vice chairman, Rob Moore, confirmed that a sequel will soon go into development. The film's lead actors are contractually obligated to return for another film, though director Stephen Sommers is not.

[Advocate05]

The people throwing around the 175 million figure(including myself earlier), forget one thing ... Promotion. TF2 cost 200 million to make and another 50 million for promotion. Now GI Joe near the release of the film had a ton of TV spots. That cost money. So, if you add that to it. 175 million, plus lets estimate 50 million (in line with TF2) = 225 million total. So, it made 100 million. Good. Now toys AND DVD sales I still say it will make 325 million when all is said and done.

Oh and District 9 from what I'VE HEARD is more action-y than Timstuff is saying. Will it whoo the younger crowd? No, but that didn't stop anyone from buying the Watchmen DVD and making that number 1 for two weeks in a row. And again people seem to forget DVD sales help A LOT!

[Advocate05]

edit: double post. I clicked the button once and i still get a double post. WHY?

[TheVileOne]

G.I. Joe Rise Of Cobra SEQUEL CONFIRMED (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2009/08/gi-joe-opens-to-100-million-worldwide-but-will-it-hold.html)

The Los Angeles Times has posted an article about the opening weekend sales for G.I. Joe Rise of Cobra, which earned $100 million worldwide. In addition, they mentioned another interesting tidbit of information:

That's certainly good enough for Paramount to claim victory, however, and start thinking about the future. The studio's vice chairman, Rob Moore, confirmed that a sequel will soon go into development. The film's lead actors are contractually obligated to return for another film, though director Stephen Sommers is not.
We'll see.

Dragon Ball had TWO SEQUELS confirmed not long ago.

[TheVileOne]

Weekend actual # from bom:

G.i. Joe paramount $54,713,046

[FCEEVIPER]

We'll see...
We sure will see.

[Nightmare]

More Baroness!

[TheVileOne]

You can keep your crappy American Baroness garbage.

This wasn't a GI JOE movie. All the bad guys were Americans, and the good guys were multinationals. What a joke.

[Big Lob]

You can keep your crappy American Baroness garbage.

This wasn't a GI JOE movie. All the bad guys were Americans, and the good guys were multinationals. What a joke.

Cobra Commander was American in the comics. And Destro was not American in the movie, not sure what you're talking about...

[Doctor Jones]

You can keep your crappy American Baroness garbage.

This wasn't a GI JOE movie. All the bad guys were Americans, and the good guys were multinationals. What a joke.

God, you're acting like the stereotypical fanboy.

Dude, Destro was ****ing SCOTTISH!

Baroness with the American accent was fine. You're nitpicking. And times have changed dude. It's not all about us anymore. I think everyone coming together and doing something good is positive and what America is all about.

[TheVileOne]

She was Duke's boyfriend and Cobra Commander's sister! ********. Stupid ********.

[Assassin]

wtf man spoiler that **** why dont you tell every one that they kill stormshadow too while you're at it and snape killed dumbledore

[deathshead2]

We'll see.

Dragon Ball had TWO SEQUELS confirmed not long ago.I remember that being a rumor based on an interview by Masters months before the movie even came out.

Also thank god Stephen is not signed for a second. I hope he'll be to busy with that Tarzan movie to work on this.

Also This movie still needs to hit $300 million to even look like it breaks even. Paramount is moving forward a bit premature.

[Doctor Jones]

She was Duke's boyfriend and Cobra Commander's sister! ********. Stupid ********.

Baroness is Duke's boyfriend! Now I see where you're coming from! :wow:

[Theweepeople]

I remember that being a rumor based on an interview by Masters months before the movie even came out.

Also thank god Stephen is not signed for a second. I hope he'll be to busy with that Tarzan movie to work on this.

Also This movie still needs to hit $300 million to even look like it breaks even. Paramount is moving forward a bit premature.

If Paramount does greenlight a sequel than hopefully both Sommers and Di Bonaventura won't be involved. However, even if an above average director is hired I'm not sure how he's going to correct some of the horribly flawed storytelling aspects of this film. Storm Shadow is still dead and The Baroness isn't bad anymore. Those two characters are a part of Cobra's core and you can't easily do a GI Joe movie without them.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I've been thinking:

I remember last year when the Incredible Hulk opened to 55.4 million and everybody on these here boards told me that it had amazing word of mouth and that it would have good legs and make back it's 150 million dollar budget. Then what happened? It dropped 60.1% in it's 2nd weekend despite this "amazing word of mouth" and it ended with 134.8mil. Instead of an amazing multiplier it ended with a 2.43 multiplier....far from amazing.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong (like I was on TDK, Iron Man and countless other films) but I don't see why I should suddenly believe that JOE is going to have these amazing legs?

It's reviews are worse than TIH's (which, I know, doesn't matter tons if you are the right movie)

It's weekend multiplier was worse (which points to some huge frontloading and might point to meh word of mouth)

(On the useless websites nerds pretend that normal people give a s**t about) it's ratings are worse or are pretty much the same

I just don't see any reason to believe that this movie's best case scenerio isn't TIH type legs, maybe a smidge better because of Labor Day.

That 54.7million dollar opening should be enough for a cheaper sequel that will drop off from the first one as I've said before.

And a monkey could see that Paramount was acting foolish with it's estimates.

Also I think that people are setting themselves up for another Watchmen type boxoffice disappointement if they expect D9 to be some huge hit. I wouldn't be surprised if the movie opened with 20mil and ended with 50mil.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Keep in mind, the wording of Rob Moore was that they'll "soon" have one in development. Not "we greenlit the sequel immediately after we got the numbers and are working on it ASAP for 2011!" They're waiting to see how it holds during the week and this coming weekend.

The thing to keep in mind is that most kids are going back to school this week (if not already have!) So, there's a highly likely chance the numbers won't be that awesome at the daily box-office.

[Doctor Jones]

All I know is that they should make the sequel for less money. You can't have something like a first time property and spend more than $150 mil on it. Especially if it's something people are unsure about. Make the sequel for $100 million or so.

[FilmNerdJamie]

That's easier said than done.

[Timstuff]

Keep in mind that GI Joe's budget is subsidized with toy sales. And before someone makes an erroneous Superman Returns comparison, kids actually buy GI Joe toys.

[FilmNerdJamie]

They did buy them in the past (i.e. us). Don't know if kids do nowadays.

[TheVileOne]

Just because Sigma 6 and 25th Anniversary sold well doesn't mean the ****** movie toys are.

[Timstuff]

Say what you will about the movie, but so far the toys have been pretty darned good.

[protocida]

G.I. Joe Rise Of Cobra SEQUEL CONFIRMED (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2009/08/gi-joe-opens-to-100-million-worldwide-but-will-it-hold.html)
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[Blade X]

Keep in mind that GI Joe's budget is subsidized with toy sales. And before someone makes an erroneous Superman Returns comparison, kids actually buy GI Joe toys.

You are absolutely right.

Also, one of the big shots at Paramount has gone on record as saying that Paramount is going to get a percentage of the movie toy sales. So in a nutshell, this movie had 2 purposes, (1) to kick off a movie franchise and (2) to sell lot's of toys. So instead of having a 30 minute toy commercial masquerading as a TV series we have a 2 hour toy commercial masquerading as a movie (a good movie, I might add).

[Timstuff]

GI Joe made $6,405,981 on Monday. For comparison, on Star Trek's first Monday it made $7,502,026, which is just under 1.1 more than GI Joe. If this continues, it's looking like GI Joe will keep going strong for a while. :up:

[LostSon88]

Just because Sigma 6 and 25th Anniversary sold well doesn't mean the ****** movie toys are.

Vile indeed...

Dude are you ever not negative?

[FCEEVIPER]

Vile indeed...

Dude are you ever not negative?
I've yet to see it.

Also, I'm not holding my breath for that day either. :hehe:

[protocida]

Vile indeed...

Dude are you ever not negative?
Yes. :hehe:

[rashad]

Tuesday Numbers $5,960,560

[I SEE SPIDEY]

GI Joe made $6,405,981 on Monday. For comparison, on Star Trek's first Monday it made $7,502,026, which is just under 1.1 more than GI Joe. If this continues, it's looking like GI Joe will keep going strong for a while. :up:Star Trek came out in early May, there is no comparasion.

Anyway, so far the weekday numbers aren't pointing to anything special one way or the other. It could get an under 60% drop but I'm going to wait for todays numbers to make up my mind because it did fall 19 percent yesterday. If it drops near that today I think a 60% drop is in store.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Havent seen this yet but plan to, but the numbers arent looking great so far, it'll be interesting to see how if does 2nd weekend.

[Superfreak]

well, it'll be interesting to see the drop off, when competition comes into play. Last week, GIJoe had no competition in theatre. So obviously they did well. But I just saw D9, and it was AWESOME. 100X better than Joe. So well see at the end of the weekend what happens.

[matrix_ghost]

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/

As expected, Paramount's #3 GI Joe: The Rise Of Cobra is dropping hard -- at one point Friday falling even behind Sony's Julie & Julia "because its audience is so old they are in bed by 6 PM," one studio exec quipped. The soldier actioner went on to thrash it by $3M Friday. Yes, GI Joe's 2nd weekend was down -68% (because of last Friday's $2M midnight shows) for $7M and maybe $22.5M for the weekend. But that's in line with studio estimates. Paramount still thinks it can get to $300M worldwide eventually with a $99M domestic cume and $91M foreign cume this weekend.

[Blade X]

Is it now safe to say that making G.I. JOE an international PC team so as to appeal to the international market did not work? trying to please and/or appeal to the international market that "hates" America and the American military has not yielded huge ticket sales over seas or in the good old US of A.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Unless it does better than I'm thinking over the entire weekend it's drop looks to be pretty expected. But hey, it should be glad that it's not dropping anywhere near 70% and to me it looks to be slightly under 60%, which is a decent drop for a movie with a mid level opening and mixed word of mouth. And yes, sadly under 60% is a decent drop for this type of movie...not good at all but fairly decent.

If the movie had opened to 70mil and above this drop would be a win.

[LostSon88]

Is it now safe to say that making G.I. JOE an international PC team so as to appeal to the international market did not work? trying to please and/or appeal to the international market that "hates" America and the American military has not yielded huge ticket sales over seas or in the good old US of A.

and so you're implying that having an all American team would've been better to market to an international audience that hates America?

I fail to see your logic. :huh:

[rashad]

BOM Weekend Numbers
$22,500,000 -58.9% $98,753,000

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Not being at $100 million after 2 weekend's isnt good, Terminator Salvation had similar numbers at this point.

[Blade X]

and so you're implying that having an all American team would've been better to market to an international audience that hates America?

I fail to see your logic. :huh:

No, I'm saying that turning the all American G.I. JOE team into a PC international team in order to appeal to international audiences (and subsequently make lots of money over seas) did not work. To be honest, I'm glad this movie isn't a huge hit over seas. Paramount and Hasbro got what they deserve for distancing this movie from America and the American military.

[LostSon88]

Lol...wow dude. So you're hating on G.I. Joe on the grounds that its simply not American enough?

And your basis for argument isn't exactly sound, it was the #1 movie overseas this weekend.

Dropping 59% to second place in its second weekend, Stephen Sommers' action movie G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra (Paramount) added another $22.5 million to bring its total to $98.8 million after ten days. Overseas, "G.I. Joe" topped the box office with an additional $26.2 million for a total of $91.5 million. The film has earned $190.5 million worldwide in 10 days.


LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - "G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra," the live-action feature based on the Hasbro toy line, held on to the top spot at the international box office and is nearing foreign grosses of $100 million after only 12 days of release.

[rashad]

^Not being at $100 million after 2 weekend's isnt good, Terminator Salvation had similar numbers at this point.

Eh, it'll reach that mark either Monday or Tuesday. It will finish higher than Terminator Salvation domestically which is at about $125 million ($369 million worldwide). Right now G.I. Joe is looking to finish in the $300+ million worldwide range also.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Van Helsing made over 300mil and a sequel wasn't made so I'm going to be interested in seeing what the studio does.

[TheVileOne]

Van Helsing also cost less than this hack job. It was also a strong seller on DVD.

Basically they were unable to garner similar results to Transformers. And basically its not touching $150 million or $200 million US.

[Timstuff]

Van Helsing made over 300mil and a sequel wasn't made so I'm going to be interested in seeing what the studio does.

Van Helsing was very limited in merchandise sales though. Apparently Hasbro has already made as much money from selling GI Joe toys this to retailers this period as they did with Transformers 2 when it came out, and Paramount gets a cut of it.

Given that the movie has made 190 million WW in its first 10 days, I'd be very suprised if it doesn't pass the 300 million mark by the time it leaves theaters. Since it's tracking very similarly to Fantastic 4, I'm guessing its final WW box office tally will be about 360-380 million, with about 156-180 million of it coming from the US.

[rashad]

Monday numbers: $2,670,000
DOM gross: $101,247,529

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Van Helsing was very limited in merchandise sales though. Apparently Hasbro has already made as much money from selling GI Joe toys this to retailers this period as they did with Transformers 2 when it came out, and Paramount gets a cut of it.

Given that the movie has made 190 million WW in its first 10 days, I'd be very suprised if it doesn't pass the 300 million mark by the time it leaves theaters. Since it's tracking very similarly to Fantastic 4, I'm guessing its final WW box office tally will be about 360-380 million, with about 156-180 million of it coming from the US.I'd wait for it's 3rd weekend before saying it's run is in line with Fantastic Four.

[rashad]

Foriegn gross: $94,247,748

[Timstuff]

I'd wait for it's 3rd weekend before saying it's run is in line with Fantastic Four.

From what we have seen so far though, its numbers are running in line with Fantastic 4.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

From what we have seen so far though, its numbers are running in line with Fantastic 4.True, but I like to wait...movies boxoffice can be very unpredictable.

Because of a few great weekends everybody thought that Up was going to make 300mil but it's not because of a few bad ones...and competition I'm sure.

[Theweepeople]

GI Joe's numbers do look similar to Fantastic Four. However, the main difference is Fantastic Four had a more favorable release date in early July. I predict GI Joe will make somewhere in the domestic range of 130-150mil. It doesn't have much competition but, I doubt film it will have much staying power during the next couple of weeks considering that August is historically the weakest boxoffice grossing month of the summer for the film industry.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

GI Joe's numbers do look similar to Fantastic Four. However, the main difference is Fantastic Four had a more favorable release date in early July. I predict GI Joe will make somewhere in the domestic range of 130-150mil. It doesn't have much competition but, I doubt film it will have much staying power during the next couple of weeks considering that August is historically the weakest boxoffice grossing month of the summer for the film industry.Exactly. Once School is fully back in it's weekdays are going to be s**t so it's going to have to start having some good weekend drops.

[dark_b]

whait a minute. this movie is making money?

[Marvin]

GI Joe's numbers do look similar to Fantastic Four. However, the main difference is Fantastic Four had a more favorable release date in early July. I predict GI Joe will make somewhere in the domestic range of 130-150mil. It doesn't have much competition but, I doubt film it will have much staying power during the next couple of weeks considering that August is historically the weakest boxoffice grossing month of the summer for the film industry.

it also has a similar look.

didn't both films use the eiffel tower for a set piece?
with the same lighting as well.

[Timstuff]

Exactly. Once Schoool is fully back in it's weekdays are going to be s**t so it's going to have to start having some good weekend drops.

Define a "good" weekend drop vs. a "bad" weekend drop, please. :huh:

[TheVileOne]

A good weekend drop, like in its second weekend, under 50% is pretty good. If its still dropping like 60% next weekend, that's bad.

[rashad]

Box Office Update
Weekend Estimate: $12,500,000 -44.00%
Domestic: $120,531,000
Foreign: $118,000,000
Worldwide: $235.5 million

[terry78]

Done and done. They will make a sequel.

[FCEEVIPER]

Done and done. They will make a sequel.
Bang! Yes they will. :word:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^I would be surprised if they did, it hasnt made its budget back domestically and probably wont, depends how much they have made on merchandise.

[terry78]

It's a lot, it's G.I. Joe. That ******** makes money in its sleep.

[Jolly Rolly]

I see it finishing off at around $140,000,000 similiar to Hulk '08, I'm still scratching my head as to why it's still in the top 5.

[rashad]

^I would be surprised if they did, it hasnt made its budget back domestically and probably wont, depends how much they have made on merchandise.

$238.5 million is $238.5 million. Why are you assuming that a movie has to only make it's money back domestically to get a sequel greenlit? It's made it's budget back.

[deathshead2]

$238.5 million is $238.5 million. Why are you assuming that a movie has to only make it's money back domestically to get a sequel greenlit? It's made it's budget back.Reports say it needs to break even at $350 million.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Now I will say it. It is running almost exactly in line with Fantastic Four. I still don't think it's going to make any money for the studio until DVD. Should it hit 150mil, I could see a sequel coming out in 2 years, a sequel that will follow F42's lead by making less than the first after opening with a little bit more and ultimately dooming the franchise.

[rashad]

Reports say it needs to break even at $350 million.

Well the budget's $175 million so of course it'll have to double that to break even. :)

[TheVileOne]

Van Helsing made $300 million worldwide and sold great on DVD and never got a sequel.

The first Hulk movie made $132 million and over $200 million worldwide and never got a sequel.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

$238.5 million is $238.5 million. Why are you assuming that a movie has to only make it's money back domestically to get a sequel greenlit? It's made it's budget back.

Maybe because with the domestic numbers studio's get 55% and with the international one's they only make 15%? BIG difference there, Terminator Salvation has done amazing internationally, better than this probably will, and it WONT be getting a sequel.

[Timstuff]

Now I will say it. It is running almost exactly in line with Fantastic Four. I still don't think it's going to make any money for the studio until DVD. Should it hit 150mil, I could see a sequel coming out in 2 years, a sequel that will follow F42's lead by making less than the first after opening with a little bit more and ultimately dooming the franchise.

But you're discounting the fact that Fantastic 4 2 sucked considerably harder than the first one. If GI Joe 2 is as good or better than the first, it could exceed the original's box office take by a considerable margin.

Movie ticket sales should be compared on a movie-by-movie basis IMO. Not a series-by-series one.

[Timstuff]

Van Helsing made $300 million worldwide and sold great on DVD and never got a sequel.

The first Hulk movie made $132 million and over $200 million worldwide and never got a sequel.

One word: merchandising.

If a sequel gets made, it's not like it's going to come into your home and violate you. Just don't watch it. ;)

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

But you're discounting the fact that Fantastic 4 2 sucked considerably harder than the first one. If GI Joe 2 is as good or better than the first, it could exceed the original's box office take by a considerable margin.

Movie ticket sales should be compared on a movie-by-movie basis IMO. Not a series-by-series one.

Actually, FF2 is widely considered by fans a critics alike as the better movie of the 2, its just that it wasnt a significant enough improvement over the first to get people who saw the first back in the cinema.

One word: merchandising.

If a sequel gets made, it's not like it's going to come into your home and violate you. Just don't watch it. ;)

If paramount gets all of the money from the merchandising, then I can see a sequel happening, based on BO only though, cant see it happening.

[Timstuff]

They don't get all the money, but they get enough royalties that they'll most likely want to go ahead with a second one. With Van Helsing and both Hulk movies (which TheVileOne loves comparing GI Joe to), the merchandising returns were mediocre at best. With GI Joe though, it's everywhere, and Hasbro is posting excellent revenues from it.

For an August release, GI Joe would be considered an overbudget movie. However it's also one of the biggest August hits on record, and since it's generated positive buzz from the general audience I wouldn't be surprised if the sequel gets a July release date. July = more people spending more money on movies, which = more potential profit.

ROC is doing about as well as one could realistically hope for an August release to do, and according to reports is meeting (and in terms of the first week, exceeding) Paramount's expectations. If Paramount was expecting the movie to be a flop, then why would they have even made it? The reason they were willing to spend 175 mil on this movie despite having an August release date, is because they are setting up for a franchise. The box office is just the first chapter, because they are likely also expecting the film's popularity to spread through DVD. Ultimately, this was a movie that was an investment, and the real payoff will be through merchandise sales (including DVD and Blu-Ray) and revenues from the sequels.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Actually, the merchandise from Hulk did extremely well, the green fists had record sales, so it is valid to compare them really, I do hope we do get a sequel though, I enjoyed GI Joe as some mindless fun.

[terry78]

G.I. Joe is a brand that is synonomous with little boys for close to half a century. That **** will never get old...parents have been buying those toys for their kids for I don't even know how long.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

G.I. Joe is a brand that is synonomous with little boys for close to half a century. That **** will never get old...parents have been buying those toys for their kids for I don't even know how long.

That begs the question though, why isnt the movie doing better in the middle of the summer holidays?

[LostSon88]

1st week of August isn't really the "middle" of summer...in fact, its pretty much the end of it.

[Timstuff]

1st week of August isn't really the "middle" of summer...in fact, its pretty much the end of it.

Yup. This is one of those rare Augusts where summer goes out with a bang. One movie alone is pulling in over 200 mil, and District 9. The only movie that wasn't a dark horse / surprise hit was Inglourious Basterds, but that's only because everyone expected it to do well anyway.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

But you're discounting the fact that Fantastic 4 2 sucked considerably harder than the first one. If GI Joe 2 is as good or better than the first, it could exceed the original's box office take by a considerable margin.

Movie ticket sales should be compared on a movie-by-movie basis IMO. Not a series-by-series one.I've acounted for everything, we simply just disagree.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

1st week of August isn't really the "middle" of summer...in fact, its pretty much the end of it.

Its the middle of the summer holidays when the kids are off though, at least in Europe it is.

[Timstuff]

Well Europe is a whole different story. In the US, a lot of kids start school up in mid-August. August is typically seen as being the end of the summer movie season, and typically the movies that come out this month don't do numbers anywhere near as big as in May, June, and July when the season is in full swing.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^I guess that explains it then, even then though, you'd think it would have a bigger opening at the start of August if the kids were still off.

[Jolly Rolly]

Van Helsing made $300 million worldwide and sold great on DVD and never got a sequel.
Just goes to show you that there are lots of stupid people worldwide.

The first Hulk movie made $132 million and over $200 million worldwide and never got a sequel.
Did you forget Hulk '08 with Edward Norton?

[Jolly Rolly]

That begs the question though, why isnt the movie doing better in the middle of the summer holidays?
And I don't even think kids are buying the ROC toys just us thirtysomething guys.

[LostSon88]

why would you think that? :huh:

[lespaul59]

My little cousin loves G.I. Joe after seeing the movie and he's only 6. And he got more Joe stuff than anything for his birthday. And around here where I live there was a lot of people doing back to school shopping the same weekend the movie came out.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Did you forget Hulk '08 with Edward Norton?

That wasnt a sequel though it was a re-do, and financed by a different comnpany so hardly counts.

And I don't even think kids are buying the ROC toys just us thirtysomething guys.


That wouldnt surprise me, I mean i'm sure the movie made some new fans as well who are buying it, but I bet its long time fans buying more than anything.

[TheVileOne]

Just goes to show you that there are lots of stupid people worldwide.


Did you forget Hulk '08 with Edward Norton?
Nope wasn't a sequel. Universal wouldn't make one. Marvel made a reboot movie that did pretty much the same as the 2003 movie business wise.

[rashad]

Weekend Estimates $8,000,000 -34.5
DOM: $132,436,000

[Shadow-Guardian]

How much did ROC make so far in total?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think its total cume is now $265.3 at the moment i believe.

[lespaul59]

I went and finaly saw ROC again for a second time and still loved it and surprisingly there where probaly 20-30 there during the last matinay(spelling) showing. I was expecting to be one of a handfull of people. And after ward while look for ROC figures a little boy and his parents walked by one of the end cap displays at Target and the little kid was like it's Snake Eyes. So little kids do know who the characters are.

[Super78]

The toys are actually doing great business from what I'm hearing.

So, the movie did what it was intended to do I guess.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

How much exactly does Hasbro get from the merchandice sales? I only ask because, for me, the movie isnt doing great business at the BO.

Does it have any major international markets to open in yet?

[TheVileOne]

Hot Blog comments on GI JOE's current status:

GI Joe looks like it is heading to a $300m worldwide final. 6 years after Hulk did $245m worldwide, you're looking at a similar financial situation. GI Joe will be trying to get out of the red ink for years to come - a couple of million DVD units will make the difference between a loss and a breakeven film - but is not an unmitigated financial disaster. Then the question of the sequel... and if you think an announcement is the same as a film getting made, you are too green to live. Marvel lost money on The Incredible Hulk, even though it did a better job of giving the core audience what it wanted. It grossed slightly more than the first Hulk film... but cost more - which says so much, given that when Universal made the first film in 2002/3, it was their priciest effort ever - and it lost money.

So do you make a GI Joe sequel? Do you try to rein in the budget? Didn't the kids come to see stuff blow up real big? It's not like they spent the budget they had on actors. I don't know. Does this studio want to be dragged through a sequel? Remember the public apologies that came out of Charlie's Angels; Full Frontal. Remember all the drama around M:I3? Could they mistake $300m from GI Joe for $700m from the first Transformers? And dare we invoke Superman Returns and its $391,081,192 worldwide gross? (No sequel for YOU, Bryan!)

[Timstuff]

There are several ways they can bump up GI Joe 2's profitability:

1) give it a 4th of July Weekend release date
2) Cut the budget down to 150 million and focus more on infantry shootouts than grand-scale CG battles
3) Not having to play second fiddle to a Transformers movie would help

GI Joe was an investment, and Paramount would not have released a 175 million movie in August if they weren't expecting to take a slight hit financially. The real payoff will be from toy sales, and sequels which will likely be bigger earners than the first one. By August standards GI Joe is a pretty big hit-- 300 million for an end of summer movie is nothing to scoff at. The issue at hand is that GI Joe's budget was disproportionate to its release window, and the only concievable reason for why is because Paramount and Hasbro expect that the sequels will be big enough hits that it won't matter in the long run if the first one only breaks even. They're not stupid-- they're not going to just throw 175 million at a movie and expect it to make back 600 million in August. Clearly Paramount is factoring a lot more into GI Joe's success than just the budget to box office gross ratio.

[TheVileOne]

There are several ways they can bump up GI Joe 2's profitability:

1) give it a 4th of July Weekend release date
2) Cut the budget down to 150 million and focus more on infantry shootouts than grand-scale CG battles

Sequels in these franchises do NOT cost less. Look at The Incredible Hulk which was a reboot from scratch, it still didn't cost less. The Incredible Hulk ended up costing a lot more than 2003 Hulk and only made a little more. Fans of 2003 thought they were going to make a cheaper sequel. Its not going to happen.

3) Not having to play second fiddle to a Transformers movie would help

Well Transformers is already established and the movies make like more than twice as much as what GI JOE did. The stigma is there.

GI Joe was an investment, and Paramount would not have released a 175 million movie in August if they weren't expecting to take a slight hit financially. The real payoff will be from toy sales, and sequels which will likely be bigger earners than the first one. By August standards GI Joe is a pretty big hit-- 300 million for an end of summer movie is nothing to scoff at. The issue at hand is that GI Joe's budget was disproportionate to its release window, and the only concievable reason for why is because Paramount and Hasbro expect that the sequels will be big enough hits that it won't matter in the long run if the first one only breaks even. They're not stupid-- they're not going to just throw 175 million at a movie and expect it to make 600 million in August.

They rushed the movie into production because of the writer's strike. When movies are rushed you have to spend more money, that simple.

Its not that big of a hit for August considering Rush Hour 2, Signs, and The Bourne Ultimatum, or The Bourne Supremacy and The Simpsons which both made most of their money in August. Also considering that GI JOE had so much merchandising potential as well as a wider potential demographic than those franchises.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

So does this mean a sequel will be happening or not, I didnt think the BO was anything spectacular but people kept going on about the profits from merchandising and how they would influence the profit margin.

[TheVileOne]

Yeah well people go on about that about the last two Hulk movies, neither of which really made any money nor are they getting actual sequels. Dragon Ball fans are still convinced a sequel is in the works. Fox even "ANNOUNCED" a sequel right before the movie came out.

Blah blah all the other crap, I get it. The fact is, none of the money its making right now, not all of it goes directly back to Paramount.

It might do well enough to warrant a sequel, but a few years ago, Paramount was in a similar situation where they weren't sure they wanted to greenlight such an expensive MI:3 sequel because that was when Tom Cruise was going nuts publically. They went ahead with MI:3 and it turned out to be a huge disappointment for them.

Its a huge ****ing risk when right now the big conglomerates are SCALING back and limiting these types of productions. GI JOE and this is if you actually look at it does not warrant the same kind of budget and hype that Transformers does if you look at the basic dollars and cents. When a sequel could very well go the way of CHARLIES' ANGELS 2, FF2, and MI:3 2. Some of these that Paramount knows very well.

[Timstuff]

So does this mean a sequel will be happening or not, I didnt think the BO was anything spectacular but people kept going on about the profits from merchandising and how they would influence the profit margin.

It depends on who you ask: if you ask people who hated it, no. If you ask people who liked it, yes. And really, that's how it is for just about everything. :o

However, Paramount did say after the opening weekend that a sequel was already being planned. The big question is, are they satasfied with the box office to the point where they'll greenlight the sequel, and I really wouldn't expect a real answer until after the DVD sales at the earliest. The movie is tracking pretty much the same as Fantastic 4 did when it released though, and in a much tougher month, so I'd be very surprised if there was no sequel. By most measures the movie is a success, but that's not good enough to convince the people who are against seeing this franchise continue.

[TheVileOne]

It depends on who you ask: if you ask people who hated it, no. If you ask people who liked it, yes. And really, that's how it is for just about everything. :o

However, Paramount did say after the opening weekend that a sequel was already being planned. The big question is, are they satasfied with the box office to the point where they'll greenlight the sequel, and I really wouldn't expect a real answer until after the DVD sales at the earliest. The movie is tracking pretty much the same as Fantastic 4 did when it released though, and in a much tougher month, so I'd be very surprised if there was no sequel. By most measures the movie is a success, but that's not good enough to convince the people who are against seeing this franchise continue.

Studios plan a lot of movies that don't end up happening.

Fox is "planning" reboots of Daredevil and Fantastic Four so they won't lose the rights back to Marvel yet.

I'm not sure what measures you are speaking of TimStuff, since I can name you movies that have had much greater success in August than GI JOE that weren't based on toys, cartoons, and comics.

[Timstuff]

And I betcha almost all of them were sequels.

[TheVileOne]

What they all weren't are a popular and long running pre-established franchise like GI JOE.

[Timstuff]

Pre-established franchise or not, if it's not a film franchise it doesn't have the same built-in pull as being a sequel to a prior hit does.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

It depends on who you ask: if you ask people who hated it, no. If you ask people who liked it, yes. And really, that's how it is for just about everything. :o

However, Paramount did say after the opening weekend that a sequel was already being planned. The big question is, are they satasfied with the box office to the point where they'll greenlight the sequel, and I really wouldn't expect a real answer until after the DVD sales at the earliest. The movie is tracking pretty much the same as Fantastic 4 did when it released though, and in a much tougher month, so I'd be very surprised if there was no sequel. By most measures the movie is a success, but that's not good enough to convince the people who are against seeing this franchise continue.

I know its tracking similar to FF, but FF cost $75 million less than so thats were my doubt comes in, and I enjoyed the movie, I think if a sequel on GIJoe was based on BO alone we wouldnt be getting one to be honest. This wont make as much as Terminator Salvation has WW, and TS only cost $15 million more and wont be getting a sequel.

Has the movie yet to open in any major international markets as its international pull at the weekend wasnt to impressive.

[Timstuff]

True, but I have a hard time believing that Paramount wasn't prepared to take a slight loss as an investment. The franchise proved that it's a success with audiences, and with the groundwork now laid down they can probably anticipate higher returns on sequels, assuming they're well made enough to resonate with audiences. If they were willing to make 75 million less in order to get F4's numbers in August (F4 was a July release), I speculate it's because they believe they can do much better with a sequel releasing in July. Like I said, Paramount isn't dumb. GI Joe is pretty much the most expensive August release ever, it was not a sequel, and August is notorious for not being a very lucrative month. They would not drop that much money into an untested franchise for an August release unless they were expecting that most of the money would be made outside of the box office in the forms of DVD sales, merchandise, and ultimately returns from sequels.

[TheVileOne]

You are talking about F4 where they clearly got a sequel that did even worse. So why do you think F4 is such a great comparison which really doesn't bode well for this franchise at all.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think that TimStuff is being way to generous to GI JOE's boxoffice numbers. I actually haven't see the film because frankly I think it looks like s**t so I'm not even discussing it's quality when I talk about it's boxoffice numbers. August or not the movie is not some huge hit nor is it a failure. Yes it outperformed it's low expectations but that doesn't mean it busted out like Star Trek or the Hangover did. Toy sales or not, it's budget was f**king huge and it's going to be hard for a sequel's budget to not be the same or even bigger. At worst I expect the budget to be like, 160mil versus the 175mil they spent on the first one.

The studio is going to have to think long and hard about making a sequel because I have seen no proof that GI JOE is being as well recieved as the first Transformers movie but on a smaller scale ofcourse. It's still looking like an F4 situation to me.

Ofcourse I'll change my tune in the unlikely event that the DVD sale's more than Star Trek or Harry Potter or Transformers 2.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think that TimStuff is being way to generous to GI JOE's boxoffice numbers. I actually haven't see the film because frankly I think it looks like s**t so I'm not even discussing it's quality when I talk about it's boxoffice numbers. August or not the movie is not some huge hit nor is it a failure. Yes it outperformed it's low expectations but that doesn't mean it busted out like Star Trek or the Hangover did. Toy sales or not, it's budget was f**king huge and it's going to be hard for a sequel's budget to not be the same or even bigger. At worst I expect the budget to be like, 160mil versus the 175mil they spent on the first one.

The studio is going to have to think long and hard about making a sequel because I have seen no proof that GI JOE is being as well recieved as the first Transformers movie but on a smaller scale ofcourse. It's still looking like an F4 situation to me.

Ofcourse I'll change my tune in the unlikely event that the DVD sale's more than Star Trek or Harry Potter or Transformers 2.

For once, i'd have to agree with you ISS :cwink:. The movie hasnt set the box office alight and at this point is unlikely to make much more WW than it already has, with a production budget of $175 million, it would have to make at least that domestically to break even, I dont see Paramount making a sequel to a movie that didnt break even.

[Timstuff]

$175 was too large a budget for an August release though. Paramount obviously took that into consideration when the movie was being made, because I have a hard time believing that they actually expected July numbers for an August movie. I simply want people to realize that there will be a lot more going into GI Joe's report card than the box office returns.

[DACrowe]

If it sells well on DVD there will be a sequel. It made enough that it won't embarass itself and made a small profit, but they need to know if there will be an audience for a sequel by looking at the retail reaction. Similar to how Austin Powers got a sequel.

With that said I see this going the way of FF. Two and done. But hey, when franchises like TF keep going and going, it really is moot at this point.

[Timstuff]

If a movie makes a ton of money the first time around, it can sometimes survive a less-than-stellar perfomance from the sequel (as was the case with Chronicles of Narnia). However, with a movie like this or Fantastic 4 (assuming GI Joe does well on DVD), the second movie is the make-or-break moment. The sequel needs to bring in significantly more than Rise of Cobra (at least 400 million or more vs. ROC's projected 300+) if there's going to be any hope of a third one. Hopefully, Paramount has enough faith in the potential of a sequel to not only greenlight it, but to give it a higher profile 4th of July weekend release date.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

$175 was too large a budget for an August release though. Paramount obviously took that into consideration when the movie was being made, because I have a hard time believing that they actually expected July numbers for an August movie. I simply want people to realize that there will be a lot more going into GI Joe's report card than the box office returns.

Releasing a movie in August with that budget doesnt indicate to me that Paramount took all of this into consideration, it says to me they had little to no confidence in the product enough to put into a more profitable spot. It doesnt suggest to me they were willing to take a loss on the BO just to sell some merchandise.

[jebhdb]

I would bet that there will be a sequel to G.I. Joe. The overseas box office outperformed it's expectations and the domestic box office has shown to have legs. There was less than a 35% drop in its box office this weekend. When the movie finishes it's domestic run the box office will be near or at it's production budget. The dvd sales of the movie should be strong and could be really strong if they get it out before christmas. Then you add in the sales of action figures, video games, clothing, back packs etc... and I believe G.I. Joe will prove to be profitable enough to warrant a sequel.

[King of Kings]

Well so far it's made $279,857,892 Worldwide and still seems to have some steam left.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I would bet that there will be a sequel to G.I. Joe. The overseas box office outperformed it's expectations and the domestic box office has shown to have legs. There was less than a 35% drop in its box office this weekend. When the movie finishes it's domestic run the box office will be near or at it's production budget. The dvd sales of the movie should be strong and could be really strong if they get it out before christmas. Then you add in the sales of action figures, video games, clothing, back packs etc... and I believe G.I. Joe will prove to be profitable enough to warrant a sequel.


It wont be anywere near its production budget domestically, it cost $175 million and isnt even at $140 million domestically yet, not to mention it is close to going out of the top 10 and once a movie drops out of there its profits dwindle quickly. It isnt going to make another $35 million domestically at this point, no way.

[terry78]

If they gave Crank a sequel, and Baby Geniuses a sequel, I don't fear too much for this franchise to get one.

[jebhdb]

It wont be anywere near its production budget domestically, it cost $175 million and isnt even at $140 million domestically yet, not to mention it is close to going out of the top 10 and once a movie drops out of there its profits dwindle quickly. It isnt going to make another $35 million domestically at this point, no way.
The domestic box office was at $141 million as of Monday. The last two weeks the weekend box office has dropped less than 35%. I would guess that the film will gross aproximately another $15 million before ending its domestic run which would put the final gross at about $160 million. If the drops continue at the current rate it could even do slightly better, but I realize that isn't likely due to school starting. So if the final gross is at $160 million I would say that is near its budget. You also have to consider that the international box office was better than expected so I do believe there will be a sequel to G.I. Joe.

[Timstuff]

It wont be anywere near its production budget domestically, it cost $175 million and isnt even at $140 million domestically yet, not to mention it is close to going out of the top 10 and once a movie drops out of there its profits dwindle quickly. It isnt going to make another $35 million domestically at this point, no way.

I agree that it's doubtful that it will make another 35 mil domestically. However, I think it's still got a fair shot at breaking 300 million WW before it's out of theaters. It might take a while, but the money is still trickling in.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

If they gave Crank a sequel, and Baby Geniuses a sequel, I don't fear too much for this franchise to get one.

Both of those movies made more than their budgets at the domestic BO though, GIJoe wont.

The domestic box office was at $141 million as of Monday. The last two weeks the weekend box office has dropped less than 35%. I would guess that the film will gross aproximately another $15 million before ending its domestic run which would put the final gross at about $160 million. If the drops continue at the current rate it could even do slightly better, but I realize that isn't likely due to school starting. So if the final gross is at $160 million I would say that is near its budget. You also have to consider that the international box office was better than expected so I do believe there will be a sequel to G.I. Joe.


But the studio doesnt get the full domestic gross, if it finishes at $160 million (which it wont BTW, its 7th now and once they drop from the top 10 profits decline pretty rapidly) Paramount only get 55% of that sum, thats quite a loss, and they only get 15% of the international gross, this movie will finish with no profit for Paramount once the box office is done, and it will take record breaking DVD sales to get it into profit, I dont see that happening.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I agree that it's doubtful that it will make another 35 mil domestically. However, I think it's still got a fair shot at breaking 300 million WW before it's out of theaters. It might take a while, but the money is still trickling in.

Only made 3.5 million internationally at the weekend, dont see it making another $20 million WW unless it is yet to open in a major market.

[Ace of Knaves]

What is it at overall WW?

[Franklin Richards]

Will it pass the original FF? It's close now.


Makes you rethink doesn't it? :D



:ff: :ff: :ff:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

What is it at overall WW?

Its at $280 million now, maybe a bit more/less.

[lespaul59]

What is it at overall WW?

Well according to Box Office Mojo the WW is $280,143,929. And I don't know about where you guys live but the figures have been moveing pretty good around here where I live. And the childens ROC books at my local Target seem to be selling pretty good also because they have restock them two or three times already.

[Timstuff]

If it can continue to make 5 million on average a week for the next 4 weeks, It'll be at 300 million. It'll probably still be in second run theaters well into October, but that money is peanuts so most of what it's got left to make will be this month I presume. In other words, you can't stop counting the money until there are no more theaters showing it.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^It made just under 300, 000 on Tuesday, it aint making 5 million a week until October or ever again probably, soon as it drops out the top 10 its profits will dwindle rapidly, it happens to the majority of movies.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

For once, i'd have to agree with you ISS :cwink:. The movie hasnt set the box office alight and at this point is unlikely to make much more WW than it already has, with a production budget of $175 million, it would have to make at least that domestically to break even, I dont see Paramount making a sequel to a movie that didnt break even.lol Yes! *Does happy dance*:oldrazz:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

lol Yes! *Does happy dance*:oldrazz:

Ha ha :up:

[Timstuff]

Box office success means ‘G.I. Joe’ sequel

Posted Aug 26, 2009

By Ted Nesi
PBN Web Editor
PARAMOUNT PICTURES
THE SUCCESS of “G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra,” based on Hasbro Inc.’s iconic toy brand, has already led Paramount Pictures to move forward with a sequel.

PAWTUCKET – Despite withering reviews, “G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra” has become Hasbro Inc. and Paramount Pictures’ second hit film of the summer movie season in its first two and a half weeks of release.

“G.I. Joe” grossed $240.32 million worldwide from its Aug. 7 opening through last Sunday, split about evenly between domestic and foreign ticket sales, according to Box Office Mojo, a Sherman Oaks, Calif.-based research firm.

The action movie, starring Channing Tatum and Sienna Miller, sold $54.7 million in tickets at North American theaters during its first weekend in release, topping the weekend box office list. The film cost an estimated $175 million to make.

Rob Moore, vice chairman of Paramount Pictures, told The Los Angeles Times that the strong performance has already led the studio to green-light a “G.I. Joe” sequel with the same cast.

Although “G.I. Joe” ticket sales slipped to No. 2 and No. 3, respectively, during the next two weekends, The New York Observer noted that its second-weekend decline was not as steep as those of some other recent hits, including “X-Men Origins: Wolverine,” “Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince,” and another Hasbro film, “Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.”

The sequel to the original 2007 “Transformers” movie has grossed $826.68 million worldwide since June 24 and is the top-grossing movie of 2009 so far, according to Box Office Mojo.

Paramount, a unit of Viacom Inc., pointedly declined to screen either “Transformers” or “G.I. Joe” for critics prior to their releases. The New York Times’ reviewer retorted that “this pricey, juiceless pulp could never have been killed by critics, simply because it was already dead.”

http://www.pbn.com/detail/44457.html

[FCEEVIPER]

Box office success means ‘G.I. Joe’ sequel

Posted Aug 26, 2009

By Ted Nesi
PBN Web Editor
PARAMOUNT PICTURES
THE SUCCESS of “G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra,” based on Hasbro Inc.’s iconic toy brand, has already led Paramount Pictures to move forward with a sequel.

PAWTUCKET – Despite withering reviews, “G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra” has become Hasbro Inc. and Paramount Pictures’ second hit film of the summer movie season in its first two and a half weeks of release.

“G.I. Joe” grossed $240.32 million worldwide from its Aug. 7 opening through last Sunday, split about evenly between domestic and foreign ticket sales, according to Box Office Mojo, a Sherman Oaks, Calif.-based research firm.

The action movie, starring Channing Tatum and Sienna Miller, sold $54.7 million in tickets at North American theaters during its first weekend in release, topping the weekend box office list. The film cost an estimated $175 million to make.

Rob Moore, vice chairman of Paramount Pictures, told The Los Angeles Times that the strong performance has already led the studio to green-light a “G.I. Joe” sequel with the same cast.

Although “G.I. Joe” ticket sales slipped to No. 2 and No. 3, respectively, during the next two weekends, The New York Observer noted that its second-weekend decline was not as steep as those of some other recent hits, including “X-Men Origins: Wolverine,” “Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince,” and another Hasbro film, “Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.”

The sequel to the original 2007 “Transformers” movie has grossed $826.68 million worldwide since June 24 and is the top-grossing movie of 2009 so far, according to Box Office Mojo.

Paramount, a unit of Viacom Inc., pointedly declined to screen either “Transformers” or “G.I. Joe” for critics prior to their releases. The New York Times’ reviewer retorted that “this pricey, juiceless pulp could never have been killed by critics, simply because it was already dead.”

http://www.pbn.com/detail/44457.html
Bang!

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Glad they are working on a sequel, but even though they are working on it, it doesnt guarantee that it will be made.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Edit:

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I still think that it won't be made if the DVD sales are s**t but I don't expect them to be.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Dvd/Blu-ray will probably make enough for a sequel to be made, if they get it out before Christmas lots of kids are going to want it as a present probably.

[lespaul59]

Well Tranformers 2 is coming out almost two months after it did in theaters on October 20th(according to Amazon). So I would guess that G.I. Joe will be about the same, which would have it comig out in the first week of December.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well Tranformers 2 is coming out almost two months after it did in theaters on October 20th(according to Amazon). So I would guess that G.I. Joe will be about the same, which would have it comig out in the first week of December.


Bringing it out then makes sense, I can imagine a lot of kids wanting this for Christmas, as well as some old school fans who may not have payed money for it as well.

[Timstuff]

I hope that the 2-disc and Blu-Ray versions have a holographic cover that changes from the GI Joe logo to the Cobra logo depending on the angle you hold it at. :up:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^That would be cool,

The movie is up to $293 million WW at the moment, but its international run is virtually done, so dont see it making it to $300 million.

[Timstuff]

Looks like there's still a small chance of the movie hitting 300 million WW. A very small chance, but then again I wasn't expecting to see it up to $298.6 million this week.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2009/GIJOE.php

Really, if it's still making money then $1.4 million more over the next few weeks more shouldn't be too hard to achieve.

[Timstuff]

Only $500k to go before it hits 300 million! :up:

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2009/GIJOE.php

Oh yeah, also it looks like some theater operators aren't too happy about the movie's quick release date. I'm not sure if it's because some of them are still making money off of it (which isn't a lot) or because of the precedent it sets for the industry. IMO I think quick releases for late-summer films makes sense, since people are going to be a lot less enthusiastic if they have to wait until after Christmas to pick it up.

http://thefilmstage.com/2009/10/15/g-i-joes-early-dvd-release-upsets-theater-owners/

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^What do they mean the quick release date?

Anyway, yeah it should make $300 WW this weekend, good stuff, still think it hasnt made enough for a sequel but we'll see.

[FCEEVIPER]

^What do they mean the quick release date?

Anyway, yeah it should make $300 WW this weekend, good stuff, still think it hasnt made enough for a sequel but we'll see.
It's a lock.

[Timstuff]

^What do they mean the quick release date?

I should have specified it as the quick release for the DVD. There's a very short gap between GI Joe's theatrical debut and the release of the DVD in comparison to other movies this summer, but IMO it makes sense because it had a late release in theaters, and it needs to come out on home disc in time for the Black Friday shopping rush if they want parents to buy it for their kids as a Christmas gift.

BTW:

$300 million am confirmed!

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=gijoe.htm

:awesome:

[terry78]

And here comes the sequel. Hopefully the expand on the characters more and add a few fan favorites.

[FCEEVIPER]

And here comes the sequel. Hopefully the expand on the characters more and add a few fan favorites.
Ditto.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

It's a lock.

My friend, a sequel being greenlight and actually happening are 2 VERY different things, its not a lock at all i'm afraid, though I personally hope we do get one.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^The DVD sales are going to make or break the chances of a sequel. Vanhelsing made 300mil and didn't get a sequel. And it cost less to make than GI JOE.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Yep, even with good DVD sales I dont think its a lock, as you pointed out look at Van Helsing, we'll see I guess.

[darthhalen]

One thing I think you are failing to consider, especially when citing Van Helsing as an example is Toy Sales! In my neck of the woods the toys have been selling great and I've read they have been pleased with the toy sales. Van Helsing had some toys, but it was a very weak push. With Joe now officially making 150 mil in the usa I feel its chances heavily favor getting a sequel. Not a guarentee yet, but very close I think.

[Timstuff]

GI Joe does have one thing in its favor that Van Helsing didn't though: merchandising. Van Helsing did have merchandise, but it it wasn't very popular.

[terry78]

G.I. Joe has been in the game for decades. It's a universal brand, so it ain't going anywhere.

[deathshead2]

GI:joe might get a sequel just because of toy sales alone. I'm sure Paramount gets a % of the total toy sales just like Transformers. As so far the movie is failing in Don Simpsons rule of threes.

So GI:joe 2 might happen just like Cars 2 did.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^I hope it happens, but I aint getting my hopes up, GIJoe probably made about the same amount of profit that The Incredible Hulk did, but I dont see TIH2 on the horizon, again, we'll have to wait and see.

[rashad]

Van Helsing is no where near the property G.I. Joe is.

[FCEEVIPER]

Cobra will keep rising for G.I. Joe as sequel confirmed (http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2009/10/cobra-will-keep-rising-for-gi.html)

By David Bentley (http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/david_bentley) on Oct 28, 09 04:52 PM

THE summer action blockbuster G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra has so far brought in $300million globally and has also proved a massive boost for the action figures on which the film was based.

Toy company Hasbro, which also makes the Transformers figures, has seen its profits leap beyond Wall Street expectations. Sales of G.I. Joe toys are set to exceed $100million this year, three times more than last year because of soaring demand caused by the film.

Hasbro CEO Brian Goldner said G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra had been "a successful film launch" both for Hasbro and for Paramount Pictures, which made the film adaptation.
Goldner confirmed they were moving forward on a sequel, according to The Hollywood Reporter (http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2009/10/gi-joe-the-rise-of-cobra-transformers-boost-hasbro-profit.html#more).

However, Goldner did hint that box office expectations for G.I. Joe may have been too high: "I don't think we can expect that every motion picture we put out to be Transformers, and Transformers is a very rare property, and yet you can have many successful motion pictures."
Earnings from Hasbro's boys' toy lines have leapt 12 per cent following this year's double box office booster effect from Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen and G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra.

But earnings from girls' toys fell by 6 per cent. We can only hope this will not lead to a My Little Pony blockbuster action movie in an attempt to boost revenue...

[LostSon88]

Fantastic that the film has been able to generate 400+ million (300 B.O. & 100 Merchandise) and this is all BEFORE the dvd/bd release on Tuesday.

They'd be crazy NOT to make a sequel...nice to know that its officially in the works. :woot:

[TheVileOne]

Van Helsing also had huge DVD sales for Universal.

Nice spinjob by Brian Goldner of Hasbro though.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Exactly, many other movies have sold lots of merchandise, but didnt break even at the BO, and guess what, they didnt get a sequel.

I personally hope we get one but I aint getting my hopes up, over time I have learned not to be so optimistic unless a movie is a smash hit.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Double post, sorry

[LostSon88]

But did Van Helsing toys and merch exceed 100 mil? Granted that's not a guarantee but I honesty don't see how could they not make a followup to G.I. Joe when there's simply much more money to be made off the name alone.

Seriously I don't see why people think Van Helsing is even a fair comparison...its not like it was an established property beforehand, unlike G.I. Joe.

[TheVileOne]

But did Van Helsing toys and merch exceed 100 mil? Granted that's not a guarantee but I honesty don't see how could they not make a followup to G.I. Joe when there's simply much more money to be made off the name alone.

Nope but the Hulk did, and Universal never made a sequel for the Hulk. They gave the rights to Marvel who rebooted it and their movie did about the same.

Seriously I don't see why people think Van Helsing is even a fair comparison...its not like it was an established property beforehand, unlike G.I. Joe.

Because Van Helsing did comparable business. the Universal monsters properties were established pre-Van Helsing as well and the characters featured in the movie.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Van Helsing also had huge DVD sales for Universal.

Nice spinjob by Brian Goldner of Hasbro though.That was a total spin job. At this point I just don't think that a sequel is signed sealed and delivered. I could see it happening but I think that fans pretending that it is set in stone aren't looking at the facts.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Definately, I am a fan of the movie and want a sequel but I know nothing is set in stone, sequels are greenlight and worked on all the time but dont come out, this will have to do at least Wolverine DVD numbers to get my hopes up.

[FCEEVIPER]

G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra wins big in DVD and Blu-ray sales, and only loses to Twilight and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.


G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra was an explosive, action packed hit in theaters, grossing $150.2 million dollars, according to Comingsoon.net (http://www.comingsoon.net/).

And now, the Paramount Home Entertainment movie starring Sienna Miller, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Karolina Kurkova, Dennis Quaid, and others, has taken first place in DVD and Blu-ray sales and rentals in its debut week. G.I. Joe has, in fact, sold 3.8 million discs in North America, 500,000 of them on Blu-ray.

Such success has made G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra the third most succesful movie this year, beaten only by Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (http://www.transformersmovie.com/) and Twilight (http://www.twilightthemovie.com/). Not bad, concidering that Megan Fox of Transformers and Robert pattinson, kristen Stewart, and Taylor lautner from The twilight saga are names that might be impossible to outsell these days.