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betamox
03-12-2010, 11:06 AM
I suggested this guy on another site what do you guys think !
he's an unknown at least. his name is Philip Boyd

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/rexbitten/PhilipBoyd03-Copy.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/rexbitten/PhilipBoyd04.jpg

Daybreak_st
03-12-2010, 11:22 AM
I suggested this guy on another site what do you guys think !
he's an unknown at least. his name is Philip Boyd

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/rexbitten/PhilipBoyd03-Copy.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/rexbitten/PhilipBoyd04.jpg


Here's his resume', he's got plenty of acting experience
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0101880/

He's got a good look. Don't know height, but he's 35 right now. So he's nudging out of the ideal age range.

Daybreak_st
03-12-2010, 11:27 AM
Cheyenne Jackson anyone? 6"3 and he has an 'interesting' look. In some pictures, he looks nothing like Superman/Clark kent, but in others ............................. he just dominates the photo. IMO he also has that kind steely yet noble look which a Superman actor needs. bit of bulking up in the gymn and he wouldn't be far off.

http://www.omgblog.com/images/2009/cheyenne-jackson-portrait-thumb.jpg

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/2nd+Annual+Logo+NewNowNext+Awards+VZq9UF9iDLcl.jpg

http://www.cheyennejackson.com/images/gallery/img_LenLewis1.jpg

http://dirkmancuso.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/bio_photo1.jpg


Again, don't know how they're casting but he's also around 35. He also looks older in more recent pics, case and point:

http://broadwayworld.com/photoops/actorsfundgalamay23/TheActorsFundAnnualGala215-vi.jpg

SuperMike335!!
03-12-2010, 11:38 AM
Again, don't know how they're casting but he's also around 35. He also looks older in more recent pics, case and point:

http://broadwayworld.com/photoops/actorsfundgalamay23/TheActorsFundAnnualGala215-vi.jpg

His look kind of gives more of the Lex Luthor Vibe than Superman.

cin0
03-12-2010, 11:51 AM
The more open and wide neckline will be far better visually then the closed style tight neckline from SR.

The suit from SR was just terrible.....

I wouldnt go that far. i liked it, if it was up to me the only thing i would really change would be that he didnt have the s on his cape.

db85usa
03-12-2010, 11:58 AM
Here's his resume', he's got plenty of acting experience
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0101880/

He's got a good look. Don't know height, but he's 35 right now. So he's nudging out of the ideal age range.

6 ft.

SuperMike335!!
03-12-2010, 12:10 PM
The more open and wide neckline will be far better visually then the closed style tight neckline from SR.

The suit from SR was just terrible.....

:yay:

Yes wide neck FTW!

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8229/001supermaniii.jpg

db85usa
03-12-2010, 12:16 PM
Here is full footage of Harmon Walsh in action as Lt. Ulysses Grant Davies that I uploaded today on Vimeo -- From the CBC / Canadian Drama "The Border", episode title, "Stop-Loss."

Although it is from 2008, his look hasn't changed much since then.

I highly suggest anyone interested in Harmon Walsh as a future :supes: candidate to watch this footage.

http://vimeo.com/10116805

Video is a bit dark during the opening scene, sorry about that!

baleheadbrasil
03-12-2010, 12:26 PM
Have you tried contacting Cudmore to see if he was interested in playing Superman?

No but I´ve sent him a tweet saying that he should be Superman replacing Routh ... :yay:
He didn´t answer anything.

betamox
03-12-2010, 12:45 PM
Here is full footage of Harmon Walsh in action as Lt. Ulysses Grant Davies that I uploaded today on Vimeo -- From the CBC / Canadian Drama "The Border", episode title, "Stop-Loss."

Although it is from 2008, his look hasn't changed much since then.

I highly suggest anyone interested in Harmon Walsh as a future :supes: candidate to watch this footage.

http://vimeo.com/10116805

Video is a bit dark during the opening scene, sorry about that!

Wow! i really like that guy too!

betamox
03-12-2010, 12:49 PM
Here's his resume', he's got plenty of acting experience
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0101880/

He's got a good look. Don't know height, but he's 35 right now. So he's nudging out of the ideal age range.

Here's his demo reel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ-kjTxtxB4

be warned though there's potty language on it

db85usa
03-12-2010, 12:52 PM
Wow! i really like that guy too!

As do I. There are various photos of Harmon Walsh throughout the thread if you want to dig through them. It originates here:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=327864&page=179

All we know so far is he is a Canadian born actor, 6'2 (very close to 6'3) brown hair, blue eyes. Has a strong theater background, attended The American Academy Of Dramatic Arts in New York City.

Has done some modeling. Believed to be in late 20's to early 30's. Has appeared on TV shows such as, "The Gossip Girl", "As The World Turns", "The Border", "Law & Order: Criminal Intent."

Man of Tomorrow
03-12-2010, 01:42 PM
Here is full footage of Harmon Walsh in action as Lt. Ulysses Grant Davies that I uploaded today on Vimeo -- From the CBC / Canadian Drama "The Border", episode title, "Stop-Loss."

Although it is from 2008, his look hasn't changed much since then.

I highly suggest anyone interested in Harmon Walsh as a future :supes: candidate to watch this footage.

http://vimeo.com/10116805

Video is a bit dark during the opening scene, sorry about that!


Harmon Walsh could definitely work as Superman. He can lower his voice with ease if need be based on that.


Find a way to contact him, agent...twitter etc and get him to look into auditioning.


I remember posting on Michael Trucco's board during JL:M asking him to audition, and he looked into it with WB and replied.


But yeah, Walsh is my favorite of the unknowns. He's got the right type of training background and look required.

http://i40.tinypic.com/315kggz.jpg

db85usa
03-12-2010, 01:49 PM
A comparison of Harmon Walsh :super: / Christian Bale :batty:





http://i43.tinypic.com/ru0kle.jpg



http://i43.tinypic.com/4t514y.jpg

Superman Prime
03-12-2010, 01:53 PM
Bruce and Clark side-by-side do need to look like they could easily be brothers. That's the way it's always been. Then again, guys, we aren't casting for a Justice League or World's Finest Film so I don't know how looking vaguely like Bale is relevant in the least.

BH/HHH
03-12-2010, 01:53 PM
Here is full footage of Harmon Walsh in action as Lt. Ulysses Grant Davies that I uploaded today on Vimeo -- From the CBC / Canadian Drama "The Border", episode title, "Stop-Loss."

Although it is from 2008, his look hasn't changed much since then.

I highly suggest anyone interested in Harmon Walsh as a future :supes: candidate to watch this footage.

http://vimeo.com/10116805

Video is a bit dark during the opening scene, sorry about that!

Very impressed with him in that video. Definitely deserves a screen test, looks the part too.

Adenjo
03-12-2010, 01:53 PM
http://i40.tinypic.com/315kggz.jpg
I sort of see it in this pic.. Every other makes him look like he's got this strange long face thing going on.. But this pic.. I see it... Sort of :P

db85usa
03-12-2010, 02:00 PM
Harmon Walsh could definitely work as Superman. He can lower his voice with ease if need be based on that.


Find a way to contact him, agent...twitter etc and get him to look into auditioning.


I remember posting on Michael Trucco's board during JL:M asking him to audition, and he looked into it with WB and replied.


But yeah, Walsh is my favorite of the unknowns. He's got the right type of training background and look required.




Yeah, judging from the footage from "The Border" sounds like he disguises that lisp mentioned in earlier posts. I actually like his voice, based on the scenes from that episode. Some key points that stood out from the clip were: The scene in the orange jump suit when Harmon (Lt. Ulysses Grant Davies) grabs the corporals wrist and stares him down. Also, all the interrogation room scenes, and the scene where he tells the corporal, "Corporal, put down that weapon!" Also, most of the shots where he is a soldier, the face definitely looks Supermanish to me :up:

Seems to have solid height on screen too. Appears to be one of, if not the tallest person in all scenes. So he does stand out.

He MIGHT be able to be contacted through here --

http://pro.imdb.com/name/nm1928976/agent

db85usa
03-12-2010, 02:02 PM
I sort of see it in this pic.. Every other makes him look like he's got this strange long face thing going on.. But this pic.. I see it... Sort of :P

That's a polaroid. So no makeup, effects, etc. Comparing still photo to video is probably going to be a little misleading though. Watching clip(s) of Harmon Walsh actually sold me.

db85usa
03-12-2010, 02:06 PM
Bruce and Clark side-by-side do need to look like they could easily be brothers. That's the way it's always been. Then again, guys, we aren't casting for a Justice League or World's Finest Film so I don't know how looking vaguely like Bale is relevant in the least.

Actually, I didn't post a side-by-side comparison because I think they look the same which I don't, however there is only a slight resemblance IMO, but Walsh is 6'2 ½ versus Bale who is 6'0 ½. Just trying to get a look and an idea of what they could look like together if Nolan, WB and Co. were to do a Justice League film in the future after Batman III and Superman has had his solo run.

Superman Prime
03-12-2010, 02:07 PM
It's clear that isn't going to be happening anytime soon.

Man of Tomorrow
03-12-2010, 02:08 PM
I sort of see it in this pic.. Every other makes him look like he's got this strange long face thing going on.. But this pic.. I see it... Sort of :P

Routh did too, then he bulked up and filled out facially

http://blog.photos2view.com/files/superman-lois.jpg

http://chucktv.net/gallery/albums/screencaps_season3/screencaps_309_2/Chuck_309_0594.jpg

BH/HHH
03-12-2010, 02:12 PM
Don't know if this guy has been mentioned: Michael Trevino

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1824751/

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjA3NTk3MTg0MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNjc3MjI4Mg@@._ V1._SX267_SY400_.jpg

Not a favourite for me but someone on IMDB suggested him, plus at 5"9 NO WAY :D

db85usa
03-12-2010, 02:14 PM
Don't know if this guy has been mentioned: Michael Trevino

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1824751/

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjA3NTk3MTg0MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNjc3MjI4Mg@@._ V1._SX267_SY400_.jpg

Not a favourite for me but someone on IMDB suggested him, plus at 5"9 NO WAY :D

Considering that he's 5'9 and looks like Superboy, why would you post it? lol

Man of Tomorrow
03-12-2010, 02:16 PM
IMDB is full of morons.

db85usa
03-12-2010, 02:17 PM
:yay:

Yes wide neck FTW!

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8229/001supermaniii.jpg

I second that! I was never a fan of the SR suit to begin with...

TheWatcher
03-12-2010, 02:19 PM
I hope Ryan Mcpartlin gets a chance at being Superman.
If not,I'd give Daniel Cudmore or Harmon Walsh a chance

BH/HHH
03-12-2010, 02:25 PM
Considering that he's 5'9 and looks like Superboy, why would you post it? lol

Just saw it on IMDB, just adding fuel to the fire :D

Superman Prime
03-12-2010, 02:27 PM
IMDB is internet hell. It's rumored that all forum trolls can trace their lineage back to IMDB boards.

BH/HHH
03-12-2010, 02:38 PM
IMDB is internet hell. It's rumored that all forum trolls can trace their lineage back to IMDB boards.

I know its handy when you are doing movie quizzes mind :D

db85usa
03-12-2010, 02:40 PM
lol IMDb has no respect on their boards. Everyone gets flamed to death.

cronosred
03-12-2010, 02:50 PM
Here is full footage of Harmon Walsh in action as Lt. Ulysses Grant Davies that I uploaded today on Vimeo -- From the CBC / Canadian Drama "The Border", episode title, "Stop-Loss."

Although it is from 2008, his look hasn't changed much since then.

I highly suggest anyone interested in Harmon Walsh as a future :supes: candidate to watch this footage.

http://vimeo.com/10116805

Video is a bit dark during the opening scene, sorry about that!


I wasn't all that interested in this guy from his photos but the video changed my mind, good job.

kalelkilla
03-12-2010, 03:20 PM
Yeah this Walsh guy is looking better and better...

Man of Tomorrow
03-12-2010, 03:30 PM
Interesting.

Brandon Routh appeared on Gilmore Girls, One Life to Live and Cold Case prior to Superman.

Harmon Walsh appeared on Gossip Girl, As the World Turns and Law and Order:CI.


Walsh is definitely in the right position to score an audition as an unknown if so inclined.

His theatre background is an added bonus too.

Superman Prime
03-12-2010, 03:40 PM
Walsh is definitely in the right position to score an audition as an unknown if so inclined.

That video shows promise. If Walsh has a page on a social networking site like Twitter, I suggest some of his supporters contact him and let him know about the Superman reboot, and encourage him to try out.

BH/HHH
03-12-2010, 03:41 PM
How old is Walsh? it doesnt have his DOB on IMDB

BH/HHH
03-12-2010, 03:41 PM
How old is Walsh? it doesnt have his DOB on IMDB

SuperMike335!!
03-12-2010, 04:00 PM
lol IMDb has no respect on their boards. Everyone gets flamed to death.


That is because they are not well moderated, if at all.

Boards like this at they very least the members are not allowed to attack each other personally.

Some people take issue with strict posting rules, I think they need to be in place.

If I call another poster an: idiot, loser, wuss, commy…whatever, then I could easily get banned, or at least pre-ban warning, but that is the way it NEEDS to be.

Otherwise, sure enough, you will get a Trolls nest, and have the IMDB boards on your hands.

db85usa
03-12-2010, 04:03 PM
How old is Walsh? it doesnt have his DOB on IMDB

No one knows officially. Based off of looks and strong assumption, he's believed to be in the late 20's to early 30's.

db85usa
03-12-2010, 04:08 PM
That video shows promise. If Walsh has a page on a social networking site like Twitter, I suggest some of his supporters contact him and let him know about the Superman reboot, and encourage him to try out.

I'm not sure if he does or not. Can't seem to find him on any social networking site. He is a complete UNKNOWN!!! lol

IMDb Pro seems to be the only possible way to know for sure. If anyone has that, maybe they can contact him or his agent and let him/her know about the discussion on this SHH! forum. I wouldn't know where to begin on contacting somebody, haha.

Superman Prime
03-12-2010, 04:15 PM
There's always Google.

db85usa
03-12-2010, 04:17 PM
There's always Google.

True. I went to zabasearch.com and searched all 50 states in the US and only came up with ONE Harmon Walsh with a full address in NYC and a landline telephone number. Could be him?

betamox
03-12-2010, 06:31 PM
True. I went to zabasearch.com and searched all 50 states in the US and only came up with ONE Harmon Walsh with a full address in NYC and a landline telephone number. Could be him?
He has a facebook page it's very spry but it's there !

betamox
03-12-2010, 06:42 PM
I found his the short film "New Boobs" that he was in on Atom films he doesn't get much to do but i can definitely see his leading man quality here ! The more i see of him the more i like him

Polux
03-12-2010, 07:33 PM
Hehehe...I´m just glad my boy Walsh is gettin more and more support....:awesome::awesome::awesome: !!!

Routh is still my first pic tho, but I´m slowly warming up to the idea of a whole new cast.


Polux

Ursa
03-12-2010, 07:38 PM
Is Joaquin Phoenix still crazy or is he back to acting?

Well, I guess he's not so crazy anymore, at least he shaved...and maybe a good offer could bring him back acting :woot:

Ursa
03-12-2010, 07:44 PM
No, I´m not there but I know that forum :yay:
And I think the balehead you´re talking about is my friend,Amanda...
If I´m not wrong,she belongs to the Cinema em Cena forum.
I´ll ask her...
And I don´t hate Cavill,because I never seen him acting before,but I think he has a very boyish face for the role. I prefer someone like Cudmore,like Routh,like Walsh...with a man´s face,do u understand?
He doesn´t have the look I hope for Superman.:cwink:

Nice to meet another brazilian here!

I think Cavill is more mature now, and he's so charming and elegant, he could be a good Superman, better than the other suggestions, imo.

I SEE SPIDEY
03-12-2010, 08:44 PM
Hehehe...I´m just glad my boy Walsh is gettin more and more support....:awesome::awesome::awesome: !!!

Routh is still my first pic tho, but I´m slowly warming up to the idea of a whole new cast.


PoluxEither warm up to it or just ignore the new movie...because there undoubtedly will be an all new cast.

SuperMike335!!
03-12-2010, 08:51 PM
And I don´t hate Cavill,because I never seen him acting before,but I think he has a very boyish face for the role. I prefer someone like Cudmore,like Routh,like Walsh...with a man´s face,do u understand?
He doesn´t have the look I hope for Superman.:cwink:

That's where I stand to.

I mean everyone does imagine Superman differently, and some may imagine him with a more boyish look, the wide doe eyes and softer look.

Me; I see him much more like the Clint Walker type. Good looking for sure, but also Rugged and manly looking.

The strong Chin, Square Jaw, wide cheek bones, determined looking eyes etc...

Body language can be learned by most actors, but the body language that Walker naturally had and used in most of his acting would be perfect too, this commanding way of moving, powerful and rugged.

Anyway, that's how I imagine superman looking and acting, so the more masculine actors are my preference for the role.

db85usa
03-12-2010, 09:46 PM
He has a facebook page it's very spry but it's there !

It's a fan page -- with 1 fan and besides, I highly doubt it's him lol.

db85usa
03-12-2010, 09:52 PM
More footage of Harmon Walsh in action.

Abingdon (http://www.imdb.com/video/wab/vi1541865753/)

New Boobs (http://www.atom.com/funny_videos/new_boobs/)

betamox
03-12-2010, 10:44 PM
It's a fan page -- with 1 fan and besides, I highly doubt it's him lol.
Oh Ok i don't Facebook or Myspace so wasn't aware, does this fan want him to audition for Superman per chance ?

That-Guy
03-12-2010, 10:46 PM
I was watching The Mentalist last night... has anyone suggested Owain Yeoman for Superman? Pretty good actor from what I've seen and in great shape... Not the conventional "Reeve" look but I can see a little Superman in him. Plus he's a big dude, so that should appeal to all of the height aficionados. Reminds me of Quitely's All-Star Superman.

http://wwwimage.cbs.com/cms/files/images/primetime/the_mentalist/bios/Owain_Yeoman_0048r.jpg

baleheadbrasil
03-12-2010, 10:46 PM
Nice to meet another brazilian here!

I think Cavill is more mature now, and he's so charming and elegant, he could be a good Superman, better than the other suggestions, imo.


Sorry but Cavill as Superman in Superman Reboot NO WAY... :woot:
Don´t wanna think about this possibility...
I´d get very very disappointed if he was.


Nice to meet you,too

betamox
03-12-2010, 11:00 PM
I was watching The Mentalist last night... has anyone suggested Owain Yeoman for Superman? Pretty good actor from what I've seen and in great shape... Not the conventional "Reeve" look but I can see a little Superman in him. Plus he's a big dude, so that should appeal to all of the height aficionados. Reminds me of Quitely's All-Star Superman.

http://wwwimage.cbs.com/cms/files/images/primetime/the_mentalist/bios/Owain_Yeoman_0048r.jpg
I've heard this name mentioned once already somewhere !

Man of Tomorrow
03-12-2010, 11:09 PM
Yeoman is meh.

There height is there for sure, the look?...facially? Not so much.

http://images.zap2it.com/movies/people/299964/299964_h_ba.jpg


He would make a better Captain Marvel IMO. He has the big gentle kid vibe to him.

But there have been worse names here.

Webhead2006
03-13-2010, 12:08 AM
i would definately like to see a strong build on next superman actor, like supermike i think said reeve's sm3 build would be great to have now on an actor. This is probably going to be a very interesting casting time for this film.

Red Cherry Lips
03-13-2010, 12:48 AM
Either warm up to it or just ignore the new movie...because there undoubtedly will be an all new cast.

Yes, let's move forward to a new horizon. :up:

Dark Knight
03-13-2010, 03:32 AM
I don't think it's that funny. The guy honestly wants to see as many people possible screen test for the role because there's one chance to find that one in a million. The actor who won't have just the look, the voice, the hair, the nose, the eyes, whatever. When he's in that room, the filmmakers will say "This guy IS Superman." Got to admire SuperMike's passion for getting things done right this time around. I'm sure many, many die hard Superman fans would agree 100%.





Still a waste of time and energy. Most of these soap opera below average "actors" that are being suggested will not even come close to a "screentest"....and you know why? Most of them aren't good enough actors for Nolan and his team.

Rest assured....the Nolan(s) will look to cast a good actor FIRST and worry about looks second. So my recommendation would be for most you to target GOOD actors who are known to semi unknown actors.

Someone suggested Matthew Goode earlier and of course Henry Cavill has been mentioned many times in here before. Those are the types of ACTORS I think will be targeted. This is going off of Nolans MO when casting Batman.

Bale was known to semi unknown (especially here in the US) but was a good versatile actor first and foremost.

db85usa
03-13-2010, 07:17 AM
Still a waste of time and energy. Most of these soap opera below average "actors" that are being suggested will not even come close to a "screentest"....and you know why? Most of them aren't good enough actors for Nolan and his team.

Rest assured....the Nolan(s) will look to cast a good actor FIRST and worry about looks second. So my recommendation would be for most you to target GOOD actors who are known to semi unknown actors.

Someone suggested Matthew Goode earlier and of course Henry Cavill has been mentioned many times in here before. Those are the types of ACTORS I think will be targeted. This is going off of Nolans MO when casting Batman.

Bale was known to semi unknown (especially here in the US) but was a good versatile actor first and foremost.

Goode and Henry Cavill again? Well that's your opinion. Actually, (Harmon Walsh) for example, does show promise as an actor. He's an unknown, and I like that. I'm not saying he should be cast right this minute but a screen test, why not? He is a suggestion, the same as the names you mentioned above. Nobody knows who or what Nolan is looking for in Superman.

The point of the thread is to speculate as to who should play The Man of Steel given the basic criteria of Superman's traits and how we fans perceive him to be and which actor closely resembles such a person in our eyes on top of how well they can act. I can tell you right now, the two actors you mentioned above, do not fit this criteria.

But if you have any suggestions you should definitely make it known :)

Slamet
03-13-2010, 07:24 AM
Still a waste of time and energy. Most of these soap opera below average "actors" that are being suggested will not even come close to a "screentest"....and you know why? Most of them aren't good enough actors for Nolan and his team.

Rest assured....the Nolan(s) will look to cast a good actor FIRST and worry about looks second. So my recommendation would be for most you to target GOOD actors who are known to semi unknown actors.

Someone suggested Matthew Goode earlier and of course Henry Cavill has been mentioned many times in here before. Those are the types of ACTORS I think will be targeted. This is going off of Nolans MO when casting Batman.

Bale was known to semi unknown (especially here in the US) but was a good versatile actor first and foremost.



Well, when i mentioned about cavill i watched some of his films first. He's quite a gentlemen, i mean his not looks stupid on camera, except from laguna he looks need more improvement(i think). Hell yeah his acting capability worth for screen test, and the bonus is he has superman looks same with the comic book.

db85usa
03-13-2010, 07:27 AM
Well, when i mentioned about cavill i watched some of his films first. He's quite a gentlemen, i mean his not looks stupid on camera, except from laguna he looks need more improvement(i think). Hell yeah his acting capability worth for screen test, and the bonus is he has superman looks same with the comic book.

I take it the next person cast as Superman is going to wear stilts.

Slamet
03-13-2010, 07:29 AM
Goode and Henry Cavill again? Well that's your opinion. Actually, (Harmon Walsh) for example, does show promise as an actor. He's an unknown, and I like that. I'm not saying he should be cast right this minute but a screen test, why not? He is a suggestion, the same as the names you mentioned above. Nobody knows who or what Nolan is looking for in Superman.

The point of the thread is to speculate as to who should play The Man of Steel given the basic criteria of Superman's traits and how we fans perceive him to be and which actor closely resembles such a person in our eyes on top of how well they can act. I can tell you right now, the two actors you mentioned above, do not fit this criteria.

But if you have any suggestions you should definitely make it known :)

I agree, screen test was for everyone who can act. Except that Nolan has his own choice, wonder who...

betamox
03-13-2010, 08:45 AM
Still a waste of time and energy. Most of these soap opera below average "actors" that are being suggested will not even come close to a "screentest"....and you know why? Most of them aren't good enough actors for Nolan and his team.

Rest assured....the Nolan(s) will look to cast a good actor FIRST and worry about looks second. So my recommendation would be for most you to target GOOD actors who are known to semi unknown actors.

Someone suggested Matthew Goode earlier and of course Henry Cavill has been mentioned many times in here before. Those are the types of ACTORS I think will be targeted. This is going off of Nolans MO when casting Batman.

Bale was known to semi unknown (especially here in the US) but was a good versatile actor first and foremost.


This is a Superman movie the Character is probably the most recognized Pop culture figure there is, a well known actor would ruin that that's why it always has to be someone moderately known to an unknown. I think Goode and Cavill still fall into that catagory.

Frodo
03-13-2010, 09:43 AM
I think Goode and Cavill do as well along with a few other of the new choices suggested here. The funny thing is that, I think whoever gets picked is gonna get s*** from alot of fanboys, because he's not gonna fit the exact " look " they have in mind for Superman.

Man of Tomorrow
03-13-2010, 10:05 AM
Bale wasn't an unknown by any stretch of the imagination. He has some pretty notable film experience prior to Batman and a cult following thanks to American Psycho.


Nolan said he admires how Donner handled the casting of Superman. Someone like Harmon Walsh is more or less exactly where Reeve was prior to Superman, even having the theatre background:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/arts/2008/04/02/2008-04-02_edward_albees_plays_are_a_marriage_of_hu.html

http://www.playbill.com/images/photo/a/l/albeeamerica460a.jpg


Nolan and Warners will follow how Donner did the casting with Reeve. We will get a complete unknown as Superman.

baleheadbrasil
03-13-2010, 10:12 AM
^
Yes I think so...
Better,I´m sure about it!
Will be an unknown(or almost)as Superman...

That-Guy
03-13-2010, 11:30 AM
Matthew Goode?

I like him as an actor but unless they're going to stick him on a 5,000,000-calorie diet and shoot him up with steroids, he can't play Superman.

Nirvana
03-13-2010, 12:29 PM
George Clooney for Emil Hamilton!

SuperMike335!!
03-13-2010, 12:41 PM
George Clooney for Emil Hamilton!

:doh: I never want to see him near a DC property again.

People say he is a great actor, but he always come off exactly the same in every role. As Clooney. Even as Bat-cloone.

Always has that fith dimension, "look at the camera because the great ME is cool, so the audience knows I am looking at them".:o

Green Ghost
03-13-2010, 01:17 PM
People say he is a great actor, but he always come off exactly the same in every role. As Clooney. Even as Bat-cloone.


THANK YOU! :bow:
I thought I was the only one who see this...don't know why they nominated him for an Oscar again :o

Polux
03-13-2010, 02:52 PM
Right there with you guys, even tho I enjoy some of his movies, he can only play two characters : "Cool Clooney" and "Brooding Clooney", and they´re not even THAT different....

Polux

Red Cherry Lips
03-13-2010, 03:05 PM
:doh: I never want to see him near a DC property again.

People say he is a great actor, but he always come off exactly the same in every role. As Clooney. Even as Bat-cloone.

Always has that fith dimension, "look at the camera because the great ME is cool, so the audience knows I am looking at them".:o


LOL! Bat-Cloone! He was great in "Up in the Air" but like my hubs said, "That role was made for him." :cwink:

ImWithTeamConan
03-13-2010, 03:13 PM
Henry Cavill for Supes still works for me.

I think Goode would be a better Lex Luthor.

db85usa
03-13-2010, 07:26 PM
Bale wasn't an unknown by any stretch of the imagination. He has some pretty notable film experience prior to Batman and a cult following thanks to American Psycho.


Nolan said he admires how Donner handled the casting of Superman. Someone like Harmon Walsh is more or less exactly where Reeve was prior to Superman, even having the theatre background:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/arts/2008/04/02/2008-04-02_edward_albees_plays_are_a_marriage_of_hu.html

http://www.playbill.com/images/photo/a/l/albeeamerica460a.jpg


Nolan and Warners will follow how Donner did the casting with Reeve. We will get a complete unknown as Superman.

Great pic, btw! I also believe Nolan will go after someone unknown. By the way, did you see my previous post about finding only one Harmon Walsh in the US? lol also, I believe Harmon has a bebo account... Not sure if it's him or if he uses it but the profile is private.

TheWatcher
03-13-2010, 08:55 PM
Superman-Ryan Mcpartlin
Lois Lane-Olivia Wilde
Lex Luthor-Ralph Fiennes
Brainiac-Hugo Weaving
Metallo-Dominic Purcell
Johnathan Kent-Greg Kinnear
Martha Kent-Julianne Moore
Jimmy Olsen-Micheal Cera
Perry White-Bruce Cambell

ArmsHeldOut
03-13-2010, 09:41 PM
Based on appearance alone, Harmon and Malambri are the ones to beat. Harmon actually looks like a cross between Reeve and Bale.

Webhead2006
03-13-2010, 11:13 PM
totally dark i cant wait to see what type of casting choices will come up with the nolans on board and likely will have pull on signing. Plus with his films doing well and alot of actors working with him. I think we could be in for a great looking cast.

cin0
03-14-2010, 12:54 AM
we'll see some british actors that's for sure.

ArmsHeldOut
03-14-2010, 12:59 AM
we'll see some british actors that's for sure.

I agree. Nolan also has a knack for using actors/actresses he's already worked with on previous films.

SuperMike335!!
03-14-2010, 11:43 AM
I agree. Nolan also has a knack for using actors/actresses he's already worked with on previous films.

In one of the articles Nolan mentioned something on the lines of admiring how Donner went about casting.

So I do think we are going to get another unknown as Superman, with more familiar faces in supporting roles.

I think that likely we are going to see faces we have seen in other Nolan movies.

kalelkilla
03-14-2010, 12:57 PM
I think Nolan is just going to use the blueprint of Batman Begins and apply it to Superman. He said something like "we know how to do this." Meaning we've done this before with Batman Begins and so we are just going to do it again but this time the dude has superpowers and is from another planet. I'm not against it, in fact I am for it. I kinda want to see "Superman Begins" showing us parts of the origin that we haven't seen on the big screen.

Showing us Superman as an established entity and also showing parts of his beginnings can easily be done. Even not showing the parts of the origin owned by the Shuster and Siegels is fine with me, I am more interested in Superman from age 18-33 anyway and I think that is what the mass audience wants to see as well. And yes I know this is in Smallville the TV series, but not many people watch Smallville compared to people that are going to see this movie.

Dark Knight
03-14-2010, 02:25 PM
Bale wasn't an unknown by any stretch of the imagination. He has some pretty notable film experience prior to Batman and a cult following thanks to American Psycho.


Nolan said he admires how Donner handled the casting of Superman. Someone like Harmon Walsh is more or less exactly where Reeve was prior to Superman, even having the theatre background:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/arts/2008/04/02/2008-04-02_edward_albees_plays_are_a_marriage_of_hu.html

http://www.playbill.com/images/photo/a/l/albeeamerica460a.jpg


Nolan and Warners will follow how Donner did the casting with Reeve. We will get a complete unknown as Superman.






Bale was considered a semi-unknown actor.... especially here in the US. Bale was a cult known actor among fanboys....but the general movie going audience had no idea who Bale was before Batman. Come on now....

Adenjo
03-14-2010, 02:35 PM
Bale was considered a semi-unknown actor.... especially here in the US. Bale was a cult known actor among fanboys....but the general movie going audience had no idea who Bale was before Batman. Come on now....

Was American psycho not popular in the US?
How about Reign of fire? Equilibrium?

Webhead2006
03-14-2010, 03:01 PM
totally kalel i would love for it to go like how you said above.

kalelkilla
03-14-2010, 03:08 PM
I think when directors and producers talk about "knowns" and "unknowns" I think what they really mean is "household name" and "not a household name." Christian Bale was not a "household name" before he was Batman. Now everyone kinda knows who he is meaning now he is definitely a "known actor." Tobey was the same before Spiderman and Chris Reeve was the same before Superman. They have been in movies and productions before, experienced actors, but they were not "household names" that everyone from your father to you little sister knew. The same can be said for Hugh Jackman before he was Wolverine.

SuperMike335!!
03-14-2010, 03:12 PM
Was American psycho not popular in the US?
How about Reign of fire? Equilibrium?

Not really that big over here.

Most people I know have not seen any of those 3.

I did not see Equilibrium.

Most of the people I know who saw BB saw Bale for the first time there.

The closest to knowing where he was from, that I hread anyone say in person in the USA was; "he kinda looks like an adult version of that kid from newsies". :doh:

That was about it.

Webhead2006
03-14-2010, 03:14 PM
well before batman begins i dont think i did see any of his films. But i knew who he was.

ArmsHeldOut
03-14-2010, 03:32 PM
Was American psycho not popular in the US?
How about Reign of fire? Equilibrium?


American Psycho had a nice cult following in the US, but it wasn't a mainstream hit.

Reign of Fire was a flop. I still haven't seen it.

Equilibrium appealed mostly to Bale's cult fans, but it wasn't widely embraced.

JStorm
03-14-2010, 03:53 PM
American Psycho had a nice cult following in the US, but it wasn't a mainstream hit.

Reign of Fire was a flop. I still haven't seen it.

Equilibrium appealed mostly to Bale's cult fans, but it wasn't widely embraced.

I couldn't agree more. I consider myself a movie fan and had no clue as to who Bale was, upon the announcement in '04.

Upon said announcement, a friend told me to watch American Psycho and Equilibrium. We actually watched them back-to-back, before which he told me Bale "was the guy from Reign of Fire."

Soon after Equilibrium I understood why it was considered a cult classic, per hardcore Bale fans. Then when we watched American Psycho, I didn't understand why it went unnoticed, as I enjoyed the film and any time Bateman was acting like a yuppie - which was most of the film - I kept saying "yup. . that's Bruce Wayne."

My friend knew immediately. I went over to his house and walked is asking about Bale and the two movies. Once I told him why I was interested, his response solidified what I found out later: "Oh. . WB cast Bale for Batman. That makes a lot of sense."

He went on to say that Bale had been around for quite sometime, yet the public would not immediately recognize the name because of his previous work.

Just like my recognition of Reign of Fire, I later begin to pinpoint other films that I dismissed: Little Woman, A Midsummers Night Dream, and Newsies.

To top my evening off of 'getting to know Bale,' my friend put in Empire of the Sun. We just watched a few scenes with Bale. After which I replied - "holy ****!! He has been around for longer than I thought."

cin0
03-14-2010, 08:56 PM
Was American psycho not popular in the US?
How about Reign of fire? Equilibrium?
I was just watchin reign of fire earlier today. of course people saw him but they didnt think about him bein in any of that after seein batman begins. wen i watched it today i remember thinkin " christian bale was in reign of fire?" but i had only seen it once b4.

bunk
03-14-2010, 11:04 PM
It depends on how you define "unknown". If you're talking household name—Bale wasn't one. Even after Begins came out, the average person would not know him by name. If you mean "unknown" in Hollywood, then clearly Bale would not have fit that description.

RetroNaz
03-14-2010, 11:38 PM
You could almost argue it took the famous shouting incident on T4 for Bale to become a house hold name.

Almost.

MAN O STEEL
03-15-2010, 05:32 AM
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6056/headshotv2.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/headshotv2.jpg/)






Steve

GreenKToo
03-15-2010, 07:13 AM
:up: very nice.

Young Superman
03-15-2010, 07:16 AM
Nice work Stevehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

BH/HHH
03-15-2010, 07:16 AM
Good manip :up:

db85usa
03-15-2010, 07:26 AM
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6056/headshotv2.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/headshotv2.jpg/)






Steve

Awesome :up: but you should have left the eyes alone... Still a very good manip!

GreenKToo
03-15-2010, 07:35 AM
I dunno. I kinda like the eyes. It would be another reason people don't see Superman as Clark. Clark's glasses could dull the brightness of the blue.

db85usa
03-15-2010, 07:53 AM
I dunno. I kinda like the eyes. It would be another reason people don't see Superman as Clark. Clark's glasses could dull the brightness of the blue.

Yeah. The original polaroid was a bit dark so Harmon's eyes were a little dark too. I actually really like the manip.

GreenKToo
03-15-2010, 07:58 AM
It seems to me it would be easier for Clark to just wear brown contacts or something. Keep the glasses of course, but sometimes things happen and clarks glasses get pushed down his nose, exposing his eyes.

Man of Tomorrow
03-15-2010, 08:05 AM
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6056/headshotv2.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/headshotv2.jpg/)






Steve


Sold. Great one.



I actually like the bright blue eyes.. reminds me of Birthright, the contacts would help with the identity.



With the glasses, he wouldnt have to wear them, the lenses would make his eyes appear dull.. but when he takes them off, he'd look outworldly.

SuperMike335!!
03-15-2010, 08:40 AM
It seems to me it would be easier for Clark to just wear brown contacts or something. Keep the glasses of course, but sometimes things happen and clarks glasses get pushed down his nose, exposing his eyes.


That is actually a very good idea. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

When you really think about it, his disguise would work better than most people give him credit for with the "I don't know how the glasses alone would hide him" bit.

Firstly, since he does not wear a mask as Superman, nobody in his world is looking for a secret identity. People do not even consider he would spend time as anyone else. He seems to towering and impressive, like a mythic demigod, that no one would think he could ever pass for a human.

The beneffit of that, is humans refuse to see what they are not looking for. People do not just miss it, they actually would not even believe him if he claimed to be Superman. They would think he was joking around.

I think there are several other things he would do anyway, as the way humans perceive identity has lot more to do with body langauge and speech pattern than it does facial features, height, and build.

He would change his posture, the way he walks, and even his speech pattern, and voice pitch. That makes a huge difference, and those are the most important things to change.

He parts his hair on the opposite side of his head than he does as Superman.

Clark can be a big man too, as the stereotype of men who grew up on farms being large gives him a free pass there.

He just has to look a little smaller than Superman.

That is easy enough, with the posture, and footwear. As Clark he can wear flat sole shoes, with no heel, making him relatively an inch shorter compared to others in normal shoes.

As SUperman he would have on a normal sole and heel, making up roughly 2" tall than he is barefoot. THis would help this disguise, as now he would seem to be 4" taller than Clark if you include the posture changes and footwear, which is a big contrast.

Now ADD to that brown contacts, and you have a disguise that goes way above and beyond. Nobody is going to notice who he is.

I suppose facial recognition technology may be able to tell, but nobody is going to check Superman vs. other people for an identity they do not consider it there.

He could even tell people, " I am actually superman is disguise", and they would think he was joking.

Webhead2006
03-15-2010, 11:15 AM
yea there is so much more they could do with the explaination of his clark identity and his superman identity. That is why i do hope we get to at least have a bit of origin or start off the film with his arrival to the city. Compared to it being him in action for a few months or yrs and we skip out on stuff like that. Being a whole new start to film series we need to see why things came to be this time around.

As for casting of superman i brought up the point before and some others have too. Maybe we should look at some theater actors to test for the role.

Crook
03-15-2010, 12:44 PM
Hey guys, how about Christian Bale? Don't laugh, it almost happened! :p

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/03/15/christian-bale-superman-wolfgang-petersen-batman-vs-superman/

In an exclusive interview, Petersen – director of such blockbuster fare as “Air Force One,” “Outbreak,” “The Perfect Storm” and “The Neverending Story” (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2010/03/12/wolfgang-petersen-says-its-unbelievable-that-he-wasnt-approached-for-neverending-story-blu-ray/) – told us that Bale was among the two actors he met with for the role of Superman, with Josh Harnett (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1469810/story.jhtml) being the second candidate. And according to the helmer, the film nearly happened.

“It was pretty close,” said Petersen. “And then the studio got a single Superman script I think from J.J. Abrams at that time, and [Warner Bros. chief] Alan Horn was so torn – because it’s such a fascinating concept to do a Batman versus Superman film. And I still think it would be to do that. But the studio decided to try separate version of Superman and Batman, and then maybe think about down the road if you want to bring them together in one film.”

The Abrams project wound up being attached to director Brett Ratner, and the project moved far enough along to audition actors. Brendan Fraser told MTV News (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/04/22/brendan-fraser-on-the-superman-movie-that-never-was/) that he was among those who suited up in the iconic costume for a screen test. But like Petersen’s iteration, the Ratner/Abrams effort collapsed, and Warner Bros. joined with Bryan Singer for his Brandon Routh-led movie.

For Petersen, the loss of the Superman project was tempered by the studio giving him the green light on another film in development: his big-budget Greek mythology epic starring Brad Pitt and Orlando Bloom.

“On the other hand they had ‘Troy,’" he explained. "And right away [the studio said] it’s not ['Batman vs. Superman'], but how about ‘Troy’? So it was not so terrible for me because I loved the ‘Troy’ project. (Ed. Note: If you haven’t seen the director’s cut of “Troy,” do yourself a favor and check it out.)

As for Batman, we all know what happened with Gotham's Caped Crusader. And for Petersen, there’s only good will towards Christopher Nolan. In fact, he’s as big a fan as anyone. “I loved ‘Dark Knight,’” he exclaimed. “I was completely sucked into it, blown away by it. I thought right away it deserved an Academy Award for Best Picture, and I was really disappointed that it didn’t get it. I thought Heath Ledger was just phenomenal. I am a big fan of that movie.”

That-Guy
03-15-2010, 01:11 PM
I've always wondered what Bale might have been like as Superman. I definitely think he's more suited to Batman, but I think he could have pulled off an interesting Supes too.

batman44
03-15-2010, 01:11 PM
Lol, that manip is hilarious.

MAN O STEEL
03-15-2010, 01:48 PM
Bale would have been horrible as Superman. Facially there is literally no resemblance to the character, he also doesn't carry himself well outside in his own personal life & I don't want the character represented by a goon. Also for me he doesn't have the height. I think Bales like, what?, 6 on a good day?. Hell ppl had a hard enough time with Routh's height & that dudes almost 6'3. I just can't see a Bale Superman going anywhere, I'm glad Batman came along & saved us from......, well Superman, ironically enough :woot:.





Steve

SuperMike335!!
03-15-2010, 02:00 PM
Bale would have been horrible as Superman. Facially there is literally no resemblance to the character, he also doesn't carry himself well outside in his own personal life & I don't want the character represented by a goon. Also for me he doesn't have the height. I think Bales like, what?, 6 on a good day?. Hell ppl had a hard enough time with Routh's height & that dudes almost 6'3. I just can't see a Bale Superman going anywhere, I'm glad Batman came along & saved us from......, well Superman, ironically enough :woot:.

Steve

Agreed.

Wath the **** are **** doing? Canth YOu ******* sthee we thrying to film a stheen!! :woot:

Cypher00
03-15-2010, 02:06 PM
Bale was in the running for Batman: Year One before the Nolan version came along. But I have a really hard time believing they wanted to cast him as Superman in a Batman vs Superman film. Maybe the meeting with Bale was for the Batman role in the film and Peterson is confused. How could they look at Bale's work in American Psycho and Equilibrium and think Clark Kent/Superman (or NOT think Bruce Wayne/Batman)?

GreenKToo
03-15-2010, 02:11 PM
Thats just about crazy enough to be true.

Superman Prime
03-15-2010, 02:13 PM
A little known fact is that Bale tried out as Robin for the Schumacher films.

GreenKToo
03-15-2010, 02:14 PM
Your kidding??

Superman Prime
03-15-2010, 02:20 PM
Lol. That was rumored for a while, but Bale apparently debunked it. Then again. . . who knows.

SuperMike335!!
03-15-2010, 02:22 PM
Bale was in the running for Batman: Year One before the Nolan version came along. But I have a really hard time believing they wanted to cast him as Superman in a Batman vs Superman film. Maybe the meeting with Bale was for the Batman role in the film and Peterson is confused. How could they look at Bale's work in American Psycho and Equilibrium and think Clark Kent/Superman (or NOT think Bruce Wayne/Batman)?

Well, they were suggesting Nicolas Cage for superman at one point. :doh:

RachelDawes
03-15-2010, 02:25 PM
Hey guys, how about Christian Bale? Don't laugh, it almost happened! :p

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/03/15/christian-bale-superman-wolfgang-petersen-batman-vs-superman/

This article makes it sound like Petersen planned to direct a Batman vs Superman film. Perhaps he talked with Bale about playing Batman and Hartnett with playing Superman?

Cypher00
03-15-2010, 02:31 PM
Yeah, he was asked about in an interview with UK GQ in 2008:
Is it true you auditioned for the role of Robin in Batman & Robin? No, that one isn't true. And I never would have done. Let me tell you, if Robin somehow crops up in one of the new Batman films along the line, I'll be chaining myself up somewhere and refusing to go to work

So if he did audition for the role, he is really embarassed about it now and won't admit so. But I doubt he did-he didn't seem to be drawn to heavily commercial stuff like that in the mid 90s.

Changeling
03-15-2010, 02:32 PM
I can see a big name like Johnny Depp being cast as Lex..

Changeling
03-15-2010, 02:33 PM
This article makes it sound like Petersen planned to direct a Batman vs Superman film. Perhaps he talked with Bale about playing Batman and Hartnett with playing Superman?
He was going to direct Batman vs Superman

Daybreak_st
03-15-2010, 02:33 PM
Has anyone suggest Christopher Gorham for clark/superman? I know he's too short 6' but i was thinking he's pretty much played the character in Jake 2.0. Even if you could find someone like him, i think you'd get the clark is kind of geeky, automatically, then he'd have to bulk up a lot (although he's got a good build) to portray superman accurately. Also he's an example of skinny face/neck and buff build similar to earth one superman.

Metropolis clark
http://simaolang.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/henry-ugly-betty.jpg

Regular clark
http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/G_L/Ha_Hh/Harpers_Island/crops/harpers-island52.jpg

Superman (minus the odd facial expression and glasses)
http://www.insidesocal.com/outinhollywood/,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,gorham20.jpg

GreenKToo
03-15-2010, 02:34 PM
I remember him wanting to direct a B Vs S, but I thought it was Law and Farrell in the roles.

Daybreak_st
03-15-2010, 02:39 PM
you know based on what nolan said about getting high profile people for roles, not saying he'll do it, but if he did cast a well known actor Josh Harnett may be more willing to play supes with someone like nolan behind it, he's still in his early 30s.

http://blogs.herald.com/.a/6a00d83451587d69e201157016d41e970b-800wi

http://kensfield.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/josh-hartnett-picture-1.jpg

I still prefer an unknown, but of all the hollywood actors he's about the only one who's got the basic look, at least that i've found. He'd have to seriously bulk up tho.

kalelkilla
03-15-2010, 02:42 PM
Yeah I remember him always talking about jude law and colin farrel for the lead roles...he never mentioned Bale and Hartnett before. I think he is changing his story or he had multiple people in mind to play the role, but I never heard of Bale in the running.

db85usa
03-15-2010, 02:43 PM
you know based on what nolan said about getting high profile people for roles, not saying he'll do it, but if he did cast a well known actor Josh Harnett may be more willing to play supes with someone like nolan behind it, he's still in his early 30s.

http://blogs.herald.com/.a/6a00d83451587d69e201157016d41e970b-800wi

http://kensfield.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/josh-hartnett-picture-1.jpg

I still prefer an unknown, but of all the hollywood actors he's about the only one who's got the basic look, at least that i've found. He'd have to seriously bulk up tho.

Man this thread is going backwards...

Daybreak_st
03-15-2010, 02:43 PM
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTk4MzY5ODY5OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjQ4ODg3MQ@@._ V1._SX299_SY400_.jpg

See he's already hanging out with alfred :hehe:

GreenKToo
03-15-2010, 02:58 PM
I liked hartnett untill, if memory serves, he said that he didnt want typecast as Supes so he turned it down.
Personally, I wouldnt care if I were typecast as a skunk as long as I got to work.

db85usa
03-15-2010, 02:58 PM
I remember him wanting to direct a B Vs S, but I thought it was Law and Farrell in the roles.

This is correct. The B vs S was on the shelf for a long, long time and both Law and Farrell had formally agreed to do it after being offered while the contracts were being developed but neither were officially cast. Jude Law then abruptly backed out after not wanting to do any future Superman films and in came Josh Hartnett who was offered a three-picture deal reportedly worth $100 million who later turned it down.

Brett Ratner came onto the project to direct the next Superman film. Then the whole Brendan Fraser for Superman rumors started, etc.

Now, below is the most obvious and one good reason why casting an unknown as Superman is a safe way to go.

Per Wikipedia: Ratner approached Josh Hartnett and Jude Law as Superman, but conceded that finding a famous actor for the title role had proven difficult because of contractual obligations to appear in sequels. "No star wants to sign that, but as much as I've told Jude and Josh my vision for the movie, I've warned them of the consequences of being Superman. They'll live this character for 10 years because I'm telling one story over three movies and plan to direct all three if the first is as successful as everyone suspects."

Superman (film series) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_%28film_series%29)

Daybreak_st
03-15-2010, 03:10 PM
Per Wikipedia: Ratner approached Josh Hartnett and Jude Law as Superman, but conceded that finding a famous actor for the title role had proven difficult because of contractual obligations to appear in sequels. "No star wants to sign that, but as much as I've told Jude and Josh my vision for the movie, I've warned them of the consequences of being Superman. They'll live this character for 10 years because I'm telling one story over three movies and plan to direct all three if the first is as successful as everyone suspects."

Superman (film series) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_%28film_series%29)

Good point. Tom Welling has been with smallville for 10 years if that's any indication of how an unknown will handle things. And routh expressed tons of interest in returning to the role. With an unknown you get much less ego and little if any other film commitments, they'll listen to direction given be available for sequels.

db85usa
03-15-2010, 03:19 PM
Good point. Tom Welling has been with smallville for 10 years if that's any indication of how an unknown will handle things. And routh expressed tons of interest in returning to the role. With an unknown you get much less ego and little if any other film commitments, they'll listen to direction given be available for sequels.

Exactly.

To an unknown actor, being offered the role of Superman is a dream, but to a known actor, it's just another offer.

solidsnake86
03-15-2010, 03:51 PM
you know based on what nolan said about getting high profile people for roles, not saying he'll do it, but if he did cast a well known actor Josh Harnett may be more willing to play supes with someone like nolan behind it, he's still in his early 30s.


At the time his star was on the rise so I don't blame him for saying no, couple it with the fact that typecasting was big. Now though, he hasn't done much and if you look at actors like Robert Downey Jr. it has done wonders for his career.

Adenjo
03-15-2010, 04:15 PM
It seems to me it would be easier for Clark to just wear brown contacts or something. Keep the glasses of course, but sometimes things happen and clarks glasses get pushed down his nose, exposing his eyes.
When I first read this my first thought was "contacts.. No F'cking way"
Then I had this image of a brown eyed Clark with no time to change using heat vision and the brown eyes melting away to make way for the crystal blue.....

betamox
03-15-2010, 05:39 PM
Bale would have been horrible as Superman. Facially there is literally no resemblance to the character, he also doesn't carry himself well outside in his own personal life & I don't want the character represented by a goon. Also for me he doesn't have the height. I think Bales like, what?, 6 on a good day?. Hell ppl had a hard enough time with Routh's height & that dudes almost 6'3. I just can't see a Bale Superman going anywhere, I'm glad Batman came along & saved us from......, well Superman, ironically enough :woot:.





Steve
Awesome ! and i agree totally

Webhead2006
03-15-2010, 07:14 PM
Yea it would probably be alot easier for an unkown to be locked on for 3 picture deal and wanting to do the role.

SuperMike335!!
03-15-2010, 08:06 PM
Greg Kovacs for MoCap of any heavyweight Superman Villain. :awesome:

Found out he was a Superman fan. Heaviest bodybuilder ever to step on an IFBB stage, 6'4" and like 328 pounds on stage, over 400 offseason (they are more ripped at competition time, so they weigh less then). :wow:

His physique went down hill near the end of his competative career, but those who know him claim he is still pretty huge. :woot:

Here he is back when he was in his prime, winning the Canadian Nationals. Interesting music he picked.

sl2Jv91lpWU

GreenKToo
03-15-2010, 08:19 PM
When I first read this my first thought was "contacts.. No F'cking way"
Then I had this image of a brown eyed Clark with no time to change using heat vision and the brown eyes melting away to make way for the crystal blue.....
I just thought it would be a little extra something to help his clark persona more.
That would be a good scene, seeing his contacts melt away.

SuperMike335!!
03-15-2010, 08:26 PM
I just thought it would be a little extra something to help his clark persona more.
That would be a good scene, seeing his contacts melt away.

I too would like to see such a scene. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

baleheadbrasil
03-15-2010, 10:39 PM
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6056/headshotv2.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/headshotv2.jpg/)






Steve

:awesome: :awesome::awesome::awesome::awesome:

Webhead2006
03-15-2010, 11:45 PM
would be a cool thing to go with supermike.

kalelkilla
03-16-2010, 01:51 PM
I hope that Nolan and Goyer go into a little more detail about just how Clark Kent keeps people from not thinking he is Superman, especially Lois. That is the big elephant in the room in every Superman incarnation that the mass audience just can't get past.

The contacts is a great idea going toward that direction. I don't need them to show me every little detail but I think that Clark and Superman have to be so different that it never even crosses her mind.

Even if Lois just assumes that he is Superman all the time and therefore never even thinks that he lives among us in disguise during most of the day would be good for me.

Webhead2006
03-16-2010, 02:18 PM
totally kalelkilla i cant wait to see how they will play out the clark kent/superman personas and how all characters will be played out.

SuperMike335!!
03-16-2010, 02:26 PM
I hope that Nolan and Goyer go into a little more detail about just how Clark Kent keeps people from not thinking he is Superman, especially Lois. That is the big elephant in the room in every Superman incarnation that the mass audience just can't get past.

The contacts is a great idea going toward that direction. I don't need them to show me every little detail but I think that Clark and Superman have to be so different that it never even crosses her mind.

Even if Lois just assumes that he is Superman all the time and therefore never even thinks that he lives among us in disguise during most of the day would be good for me.

Agreed. They need to point out how it works, too many people get hung up on it.

Normally I do not like it when details are spoon fed to the audience, but sometimes you have to when the majority miss it.

They should point out to the Audience that people in his world believe he is Superman fulltime, and that they do not even consider he would spend time as someone else.

They also need to point out how humans refuse to see things they are not looking for. This is easy enough to show.

Could point that out like this:

d0QVvbhMm24

What I do not understand is how no other medium, other than STAS, has pointed out how EASY the secret is kept. That it has little to do with glasses, but rather nobody looks for the secret identity of a guy who does not wear a mask.

BH/HHH
03-16-2010, 02:32 PM
Agreed. They need to point out how it works, too many people get hung up on it.

Normally I do not like it when details are spoon fed to the audience, but sometimes you have to when the majority miss it.

They should point out to the Audience that people in his world believe he is Superman fulltime, and that they do not even consider he would spend time as someone else.

They also need to point out how humans refuse to see things they are not looking for. This is easy enough to show.

Could point that out like this:

d0QVvbhMm24

What I do not understand is how no other medium, other than STAS, has pointed out how EASY the secret is kept. That it has little to do with glasses, but rather nobody looks for the secret identity of a guy who does not wear a mask.

That scene is quality, it shows perfectly that no one even suspects him. Like you say if you're not looking you don't notice.

Zorex
03-16-2010, 02:33 PM
That scene from STAS is GREAT! Love it. Something like that (but, obviously, written appropriately for the context of the film) would be great.

Webhead2006
03-16-2010, 02:39 PM
that would be a great scene to fit in some how.

XxDelta09xX
03-16-2010, 03:54 PM
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6056/headshotv2.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/headshotv2.jpg/)






Steve

That's Awesome this is who I want for Superman.:woot:

BH/HHH
03-16-2010, 03:59 PM
That's Awesome this is who I want for Superman.:woot:

If he looks like that would be hard to argue

db85usa
03-16-2010, 05:39 PM
If he looks like that would be hard to argue

What makes you think otherwise? Walsh does have a very good look IMO, I also think he can act pretty well for a complete unknown. The photo for the manip Steve used is a recent photo of Harmon, btw.

cin0
03-16-2010, 05:49 PM
walsh seems to be the new favorite.

Dark Knight
03-16-2010, 06:31 PM
Was American psycho not popular in the US?
How about Reign of fire? Equilibrium?





Your reaching. As I said before.....Bale as cult fave actor and known amongst cult genre fanboys....especially after AP.

The general movie going audience still had no idea who Bale was until BB really.

When Bale was cast as Batman....I remember telling people who are not big Batman fans or movie fans in the know....who was cast as Batman and the popular response was who is Christian Bale??

I responded by saying the guy from American Psycho and some said...ohhh him? Or they would say they never saw that film and don't know who he is.

Zorex
03-16-2010, 07:15 PM
I'm not at all knocking anyone's opinions here at all, please bear that in mind. (That being said, I'm fully prepared for some... less-than-positive feedback.) I'm just having trouble understanding the sudden great love for Walsh. I know everyone must be really excited for things to get rolling on a new movie under Nolan's guidance (I know I am), but... I don't know. There are plenty of actors in the world that would make some degree of a good-looking Supes. I guess I just don't see what makes this guy so special.

What I do know is, I'm going to excitedly wait and see what director/other creative team ends up on the film, and hope/trust they cast as well as they did with the two Nolan Bat-films. If they think Walsh, or someone as unknown as him, is the the guy, then cool. I'll have faith (enough) in their judgement on who's best to be the Superman for their film.

db85usa
03-16-2010, 07:29 PM
And someone to tame those eyebrows, yikes! :p

Definitely a test-worthy look.

Is this why you're not on the Harmon Walsh bus? :woot:

I'll agree with your previous post, definitely a test-worthy look.

I'm sure WB/Nolan have someone in mind, if not a few. It's just fun to speculate and throw out names. I hate repeating myself, but I think Walsh has a good look and I like the fact that he's an unknown. Given Nolan's respect for the 1978 film and how the casting was done and the fact that it was Christopher Reeve, an unknown was cast as Superman.

To quote Wikipedia and Brett Ratner who was a previous director lined up for the project Superman: Flyby,

"Brett Ratner signed to direct in September 2002, originally expressing an interest in casting an unknown for the lead role, while filming was to start sometime in late 2003.[39] Ratner approached Josh Hartnett and Jude Law as Superman, but conceded that finding a famous actor for the title role had proven difficult because of contractual obligations to appear in sequels."

"No star wants to sign that, but as much as I've told Jude and Josh my vision for the movie, I've warned them of the consequences of being Superman. They'll live this character for 10 years because I'm telling one story over three movies and plan to direct all three if the first is as successful as everyone suspects."

Ratner's point is true in every sense of the word. It was talked about in previous posts in the thread about the definition of "unknown", however, things MIGHT change this time around under the direction of Nolan because of his reputation for Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

But even so, I still think it's going to be difficult to get a mid-known or full known star to take on the main role of :supes: regardless of who's running the show. Whoever is cast has the incredible high risk of being typecast maybe for 10 years, but possibly his entire career. That can be argued in the case of Brandon Routh -- though SR wasn't exactly the smash-hit WB was looking for so to speak and I still haven't watched Routh in anything besides SR...

Anyway, Superman is the most iconic comic-book superhero of our generation and is an entirely different universe vs. Batman, Spider-Man, Iron-Man, or any other superhero for that matter. It's MUCH easier to find an actor and put a mask over his head and ask him/her to portray a legendary superhero. It seems obvious to me that casting an unknown brings the best possible chance of translating all of this onto film. These are the main reasons why I like Walsh to get a screen test and hope many other actors that fall into the unknown category do too. Harmon Walsh is just my top choice at the moment.

JMHO.

Zorex
03-16-2010, 08:08 PM
Very cool. Thank you for not biting my head off. :p

And, no, his powerful eyebrows are not the issue, haha. I guess, as I tried to describe in my post, I am perplexed by the excitement over and fixation on this one out of who-knows-how-many unknown/non-household name actors.

You are quite right about how uncertain the lead role casting me be, given the character's casting track record vs. Nolan's (at least, in terms of his Batman movies). As you said in different words, one of the things that most defines Superman apart from other heroes is one of things that might make him so difficult to cast. Sure, having the look and being able to convincingly and satisfyingly pull off such a virtuous, powerful, humble, multi-faceted action-adventure character of modern myth is tough, but having little to no separation, i.e. no masks, between the visual/physical reality of the character and your self... that is equally as tough. Tough on your own career, you could say.

With Goyer and Nolan fans of the original Donner film, and the way it was cast, bodes well, in my opinion, for this film. If, however, they find a well-known actor, or someone with prior wide exposure, who they think really fits the role/embodies the character for their film... then I'm good. You can't expect an actor to embody the entirety of character's existence... despite sticking to a pretty much Classic look for so long, he has changed. We can only hope that the filmmakers write a fantastic adaptation of the character, one that is not necessarily any one specific, published version of the character or telling of his story, a film that really bears the soul of the character, and that they can find the right actor to play the Superman in that film.

I'm sure I'll jump into the casting commotion further down the line, but right now, it's so early on... I'm just going to keep praying they get the film going in the right direction. :)

db85usa
03-16-2010, 08:17 PM
Very cool. Thank you for not biting my head off. :p

And, no, his powerful eyebrows are not the issue, haha. I guess, as I tried to describe in my post, I am perplexed by the excitement over and fixation on this one out of who-knows-how-many unknown/non-household name actors.

You are quite right about how uncertain the lead role casting me be, given the character's casting track record vs. Nolan's (at least, in terms of his Batman movies). As you said in different words, one of the things that most defines Superman apart from other heroes is one of things that might make him so difficult to cast. Sure, having the look and being able to convincingly and satisfyingly pull off such a virtuous, powerful, humble, multi-faceted action-adventure character of modern myth is tough, but having little to no separation, i.e. no masks, between the visual/physical reality of the character and your self... that is equally as tough. Tough on your own career, you could say.

With Goyer and Nolan fans of the original Donner film, and the way it was cast, bodes well, in my opinion, for this film. If, however, they find a well-known actor, or someone with prior wide exposure, who they think really fits the role/embodies the character for their film... then I'm good. You can't expect an actor to embody the entirety of character's existence... despite sticking to a pretty much Classic look for so long, he has changed. We can only hope that the filmmakers write a fantastic adaptation of the character, one that is not necessarily any one specific, published version of the character or telling of his story, a film that really bears the soul of the character, and that they can find the right actor to play the Superman in that film.

I'm sure I'll jump into the casting commotion further down the line, but right now, it's so early on... I'm just going to keep praying they get the film going in the right direction. :)

:up: excellent post. Thanks for not biting my head off either, lol.

I like speculating and also rumors, info, news, etc. So, following the next Superman project ever since Nolan came on board has been exciting mainly because of his track record and a lot of people have faith in Nolan handling this the right way including myself. Nolan did something that very FEW filmmakers have done -- He resurrected a dead franchise and not only that, he delivered a sequel FAR superior to the original! Aside from his ties with Batman, he's made other very good quality films. I've seen every one of them and will continue to see his future projects as well.

The main role of Superman obviously is the most exciting part (for me anyway) to stay updated with. Since Nolan came along, my worries about story, director, music, and etc. have been completely forgotten. I'm pretty much 100% focused on who's going to be cast because it's the actors who are going to work the magic on film and given that it's Christopher Nolan currently in control, I have no doubt he and his future crew will find the right magicians to perform :yay:

kalelkilla
03-16-2010, 08:25 PM
I kinda like Walsh for the role, but obviously he is going to have some major competition. I've seen some of his acting and he looks pretty solid. I mean I'm kinda like in the "just let Nolan do his thing camp" but that is kinda boring hahaha.

I think what's best about the casting forum is that we get to show people how we think Superman should look like on the screen...I'm not really pulling for any particular actor...but I def know what I want and what I do not want and Walsh could definitely work but in the end I'm gonna back whoever they choose.

db85usa
03-16-2010, 08:40 PM
I kinda like Walsh for the role, but obviously he is going to have some major competition. I've seen some of his acting and he looks pretty solid. I mean I'm kinda like in the "just let Nolan do his thing camp" but that is kinda boring hahaha.

I think what's best about the casting forum is that we get to show people how we think Superman should look like on the screen...I'm not really pulling for any particular actor...but I def know what I want and what I do not want and Walsh could definitely work but in the end I'm gonna back whoever they choose.

Well said. I think the competition is actually going to be fierce and that's a great thing. I also think a lot of actors may even vouch for the role. I'm no casting director but finding Harmon Walsh was honestly by a stroke of luck and digging. I too think it's boring to sit back and not speculate I mean, it's the point of the thread up to this point.

It's all a crap shoot. Really, what are the odds of WB or Christopher Nolan actually seeing all of this fan speculation over the role let alone Harmon Walsh? Everyone's got an opinion but like you said, in the end, I'm gonna back whoever they choose too but until then, Walsh is my favorite hands down.

betamox
03-16-2010, 10:29 PM
Well said. I think the competition is actually going to be fierce and that's a great thing. I also think a lot of actors may even vouch for the role. I'm no casting director but finding Harmon Walsh was honestly by a stroke of luck and digging. I too think it's boring to sit back and not speculate I mean, it's the point of the thread up to this point.

It's all a crap shoot. Really, what are the odds of WB or Christopher Nolan actually seeing all of this fan speculation over the role let alone Harmon Walsh? Everyone's got an opinion but like you said, in the end, I'm gonna back whoever they choose too but until then, Walsh is my favorite hands down.
I totally agree with both of you about this. It doesn't really matter how much any of us rant and rave over our favorite for this role if those that matter and those we think should be tested never find one another. Whose to say ? But like you i know my idea of Superman and will support that idea until the actual casting choice is made. Once that day comes all i want is Superman and i won't care who he is or how he got there.

B
03-16-2010, 10:40 PM
http://blogs.herald.com/.a/6a00d83451587d69e201157016d41e970b-800wi

http://kensfield.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/josh-hartnett-picture-1.jpg


*enters thread*

What the..?

I appear to have inadvertently travelled through time somehow as I appear to be in 2004..

SuperMike335!!
03-16-2010, 10:52 PM
Do Not like Hartnet for the role.

Webhead2006
03-16-2010, 11:28 PM
I'm not at all knocking anyone's opinions here at all, please bear that in mind. (That being said, I'm fully prepared for some... less-than-positive feedback.) I'm just having trouble understanding the sudden great love for Walsh. I know everyone must be really excited for things to get rolling on a new movie under Nolan's guidance (I know I am), but... I don't know. There are plenty of actors in the world that would make some degree of a good-looking Supes. I guess I just don't see what makes this guy so special.

What I do know is, I'm going to excitedly wait and see what director/other creative team ends up on the film, and hope/trust they cast as well as they did with the two Nolan Bat-films. If they think Walsh, or someone as unknown as him, is the the guy, then cool. I'll have faith (enough) in their judgement on who's best to be the Superman for their film.

YEa i dont know that walsh work myself either. But i dont see anything wrong with him if he wanted to have a test for the role. I am sure we are going to hear about many many names like we have currently happening with captain america for marvel. But i am sure with nolan on board now we will probably see some very interesting and good casting calls.

Johnny Drama
03-17-2010, 12:26 AM
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/Supes-1.jpg

SuperDaniel
03-17-2010, 01:22 AM
As long as it not a well known, mainstream, actor, i`ll be ok.

MAN O STEEL
03-17-2010, 03:18 AM
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9178/sivportrait3v2harmonwal.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/sivportrait3v2harmonwal.jpg/)





Steve

db85usa
03-17-2010, 03:38 AM
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9178/sivportrait3v2harmonwal.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/sivportrait3v2harmonwal.jpg/)





Steve

Simply awesome! Thanks Steve, great work! Walsh definitely has an excellent look for an unknown.

sf2
03-17-2010, 04:22 AM
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/Supes-1.jpg
a very solid casting. i like them all, except for pa kent. i would prefer pa kent to look like a regular old folk, not an action hero.

GreenKToo
03-17-2010, 08:01 AM
I fully expect to be floored by some of the names we will hear in the overall casting rumors.
Wouldnt be surprised if its names *like* Depp, Day-Lewis, Hanks, Sarandon, etc.

GreenKToo
03-17-2010, 08:05 AM
Somebody needs to e-mail that manip of Walsh to someone that has *friends* in high places.
I'm not saying he is the best thing since sliced bread, but he certainly needs a look.

ImWithTeamConan
03-17-2010, 08:30 AM
As much as I dug Routh for the role, he's not going to be Superman ever again. Nolan's going to want a clean slate and he's going to pick his Superman. Routh was the right Supes at the wrong time.

GreenKToo
03-17-2010, 08:49 AM
Just about everybody, including me, is thinking an unknown will get the role, but after thinking about it a little, now i'm not so sure. Bale wasn't a complete unknown when Nolan cast him. Sure, he wasn't a household name, but he had been in a few films.
The next guy that gets cast as Superman could be similar to Bale. Not a household name yet, but not a complete unknown either.

Young Superman
03-17-2010, 09:39 AM
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9178/sivportrait3v2harmonwal.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/sivportrait3v2harmonwal.jpg/)





Steve
Now that's Superman.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif:super:

baleheadbrasil
03-17-2010, 09:49 AM
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9178/sivportrait3v2harmonwal.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/sivportrait3v2harmonwal.jpg/)





Steve

Great great work! :up: :supes:

kalelkilla
03-17-2010, 10:08 AM
Is that really Walsh's body? Cuz if it is... sign that boy up!

That-Guy
03-17-2010, 10:16 AM
Not familiar with this Walsh dude... but that manip makes him look great for the part.

baleheadbrasil
03-17-2010, 12:03 PM
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/Supes-1.jpg

Good cast,but I´d choose Meryl Streep for Ma Kent and another actor for Pa Kent not Dennis Quaid. The rest is OK!!!
Approved. :up:

Lobo
03-17-2010, 12:13 PM
Hartnett balked at the part in 04 but how much do you want to bet he'd jump at the chance now, especially w/ Nolan's involvement?

SuperMike335!!
03-17-2010, 12:29 PM
As long as it not a well known, mainstream, actor, i`ll be ok.

Heck, I cannot think of any well known mainstream actor who fits the bill anyway.

GreenKToo
03-17-2010, 01:07 PM
Nor can I. Nolan may surprise us and pick a guy from totally outta left field for the role.
We all assume the actor picked, with some help from make up etc, will be 6'2 plus, 210 plus, black haired, blue eyed, and looked like he stepped out of the comics.
What if Nolan instead picks a fairly well known actor that's 5'10, 190lbs, with brown hair and brown eyes and doesnt change a thing about him onscreen. Would you trust his choice?

Superman Prime
03-17-2010, 01:12 PM
For nearly five years Nolan has never given me a reason to distrust his creative choices. There is a chance he'll cast an actor as Superman who is very unexpected and "left field". . . but Nolan has earned the right for me to reserve judgment until I see the final product.

GreenKToo
03-17-2010, 01:14 PM
I dont think we'll have to worry about a Nic Cage type tho, lol.

Superman Prime
03-17-2010, 01:17 PM
Btw, Johnny Drama, I like your choices for Perry and especially Metallo. Daniel Craig would be near perfect for that. I'm not too crazy about those other choices.

MAN O STEEL
03-17-2010, 01:27 PM
I think the only thing to worry about from Nolan's end is the casting of Lois Lane. We all know that the casting of both katie Holmes & Maggie 'I'm extremley unattractive yet get the leads' Gyllenhall was really not the way to go as IMO both were just wrong for those roles, so casting for women may not be his strong suit. Put that side by side with the fact that we've never really gotten a great live action Lois lane outside of Hatcher & IMO Durance & since Bosworth left such a bad taste in our mouths I think it's really important to tread carefully when casting.




Steve

Zorex
03-17-2010, 01:32 PM
Nor can I. Nolan may surprise us and pick a guy from totally outta left field for the role.
We all assume the actor picked, with some help from make up etc, will be 6'2 plus, 210 plus, black haired, blue eyed, and looked like he stepped out of the comics.
What if Nolan instead picks a fairly well known actor that's 5'10, 190lbs, with brown hair and brown eyes and doesnt change a thing about him onscreen. Would you trust his choice?

Well, there's a good chance one's faith in or opinion of the actor picked will change between the initial casting announcement, and release of marketing materials closer to release that showcase how the actor looks on film.

Regarding your hypothetical casting...

I am confused by your wording. You say, they cast this actor and don't change a thing about his look for the film, but then ask if you trust the choice. Are they announcing their intention from the get-go to not change his appearance at all? In that case, then no. I would not be on board with that. If, however, you meant that, release of the film rolls around and everyone discovers that the guy looks... well, as you described... then I don't think you're in trust territory anymore. The choice is there, on the screen, as the character, living in the world of the film. I think most fans, even most general audience members at large, will know early on if they're down with it or not. You're beyond the point of trusting, and it either works for you or it doesn't.

Daybreak_st
03-17-2010, 02:06 PM
I think the only thing to worry about from Nolan's end is the casting of Lois Lane. We all know that the casting of both katie Holmes & Maggie 'I'm extremley unattractive yet get the leads' Gyllenhall was really not the way to go as IMO both were just wrong for those roles, so casting for women may not be his strong suit. Put that side by side with the fact that we've never really gotten a great live action Lois lane outside of Hatcher & IMO Durance & since Bosworth left such a bad taste in our mouths I think it's really important to tread carefully when casting.

Steve

You make a great point. It really depends how involved he is on the casting end, depending on the director and studio, they could feel the same way about his other female leads and want to go in a different direction. Or the situation maybe similar to what happened with Green Lantern, the studio having their favorite, the director having his, and Nolan having his. Then it's a showdown to see who gets the role. Who knows.


As far as casting superman goes i don't think it will be a well known actor, the closest guy i can think of is Josh Hartnett, no one else really fits the bill. My guess is open casting call or a left field pick, maybe a foreign actor (australian, british, canadian, etc) that few people in the US are aware of.

Keep this in mind. Singer went through tons of auditon tapes supposedly. So a lot of people audition before. That was what, 5 years ago? What if some of those actors have more acting experience now, and a more superman look to them (like what if back then the guy was 21, clearly too young for the role) Now he'd be in his late 20s, maybe have a better build and better look, etc. So you have a whole host of guys who've auditioned before who may want to try again. Then you've got guys who've never tried before but once the casting call goes out may try for the role. That's a lot of people to choose from :wow:

I'm sure they'll find a solid superman. I just hope the guy can play a solid supes AND clark and beliveably distinguish the two.

Superman Prime
03-17-2010, 02:11 PM
Keep in mind that Rachel Dawes was an original character without any sort of legacy or expectations to live up to. She was set up almost purely to die, her inspirational tidbits in BB aside. As a character she was without many functions to perform, so the role didn't call for a great actress whose talent would have ended up wasted.

SuperMike335!!
03-17-2010, 02:19 PM
Nor can I. Nolan may surprise us and pick a guy from totally outta left field for the role.
We all assume the actor picked, with some help from make up etc, will be 6'2 plus, 210 plus, black haired, blue eyed, and looked like he stepped out of the comics.
What if Nolan instead picks a fairly well known actor that's 5'10, 190lbs, with brown hair and brown eyes and doesnt change a thing about him onscreen. Would you trust his choice?

For me, I would not trust his choice at all in such a case.

I'd hear the news and go :doh:

My confidence is not so high in any director or team. I will trust but verify.

I remember all of that "in singer I trust" posted all over the net 5 years ago in signatures.

I do not put faith in any movie team unless I like the news that is comming out. Can they prove me wrong, sure, I will see the movie and give it a chance.

Offhand, I do have a feeling Nolan is going to use more familiar faces in support roles, and go for a Superman matching unknown again.

He did mention liking the style that Donner used for casting Superman.

While Ledger was an offwall well known choice for the Joker, the main character Batman was well cast with Bale, so I strongly hope we get a good fitting superman actor.

SuperMike335!!
03-17-2010, 02:20 PM
Sorry guys, I feel rant coming on...

For the movie to work, the absolute most important thing from a visual standpoint is for the Audience to buy Superman the second they see him.

They cannot be spending the whole movie trying to sell the idea that he is superman, that must happen in the first impression. The very first second we see him in costume.

If they have an actor who easily looks like, sounds like, and acts like Superman, the Audience will buy him as Superman, and be much more forgiving of a Clark that seems a bit obvious.

That can be addressed easily anyway, just by pointing out to the Audience the fact that in his universe, no one even considers he has a secret identity, as he does not wear a mask as Superman.

Now on the other hand, if the Audience sees a Clark that does not seem like he could ever possibly be Superman, but they do not instantly buy him as Superman when they see him in costume, there is no way to fix that bad first impression

Even 6'2" and 210 is on the smaller side IMHO. His source book stats are 6'3" and 225, sometimes 6'4" and 235, not that its too big of a deal as mostly only fanboys know such stats. Even if you figure 6'3" and 225, that is still a big man if the guy has a very low bodyfat%.

Most comic book artists pay no attention to the sourcebook stats, and draw him WAY larger than that, even if you adjust for the exaggeration of the comic book style.

The point of that, is that if 6'3" 225 is the baseline, and they have to go ethier direction, I prefer they go in the same direction the comic artists, and get a guy 6'4" or 6'5", instead of 6'1" or 6'2".

To me, that goes back to looking like Superman first and foremost.
They can worry about making him look more like Clark later. They can even cheat with makeup and camera angles if they have to. This is Hollywood after all.

If they have an actor who easily looks like, sounds like, and acts like Superman, the Audience will buy him as Superman, and be much more forgiving of a Clark that seems a bit obvious.

That can be addressed easily anyway, just by pointing out to the Audience the fact that in his universe, no one even considers he has a secret identity, as he does not wear a mask as Superman.

Right now there is likely a huge crowd of unknown actors who have talent, and who are 6'3" or taller and 225 pounds of muscle or more, who just have not gotten a break.

Modern movie makers have been going for boymen actors for so long, that is what modern fans have come to expect. There are a ton of guys who look soft featured, or have pointy chins, or wide doe eyes etc... "boymen". You see them in most leading roles these days. It's like the target audience of all movies now are 14 year old girls.
 
There is no mental disease associated with people who are tall and muscular that causes them to not be able to act. Often they are just given hardly any lines to work with, and only one take, because they are being relegated to hired goon #3.

Right now, I am 100% confident the best way to go is to find a talented lesser known actor, who is tall and muscular, and who has a good face and voice for the role. Someone we can easily see as a Superman. Now if there is a well known guy I just am not thinking of, who fits the bill so be it.

GreenKToo
03-17-2010, 02:22 PM
Oh I trust nolan, I was just wondering if others here would still feel the same if he cast an actor like I mentioned above and left the brown hair and eyes as is.
Thats very unlikely of course, just curious.

B
03-17-2010, 02:24 PM
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9178/sivportrait3v2harmonwal.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/sivportrait3v2harmonwal.jpg/)





Steve

Cool manip. :up:

But I'm not a fan of his look for Superman.. at least based on that picture.

betamox
03-17-2010, 02:42 PM
Sorry guys, I feel rant coming on...

For the movie to work, the absolute most important thing from a visual standpoint is for the Audience to buy Superman the second they see him.

They cannot be spending the whole movie trying to sell the idea that he is superman, that must happen in the first impression. The very first second we see him in costume.

If they have an actor who easily looks like, sounds like, and acts like Superman, the Audience will buy him as Superman, and be much more forgiving of a Clark that seems a bit obvious.

That can be addressed easily anyway, just by pointing out to the Audience the fact that in his universe, no one even considers he has a secret identity, as he does not wear a mask as Superman.

Now on the other hand, if the Audience sees a Clark that does not seem like he could ever possibly be Superman, but they do not instantly buy him as Superman when they see him in costume, there is no way to fix that bad first impression

Even 6'2" and 210 is on the smaller side IMHO. His source book stats are 6'3" and 225, sometimes 6'4" and 235, not that its too big of a deal as mostly only fanboys know such stats. Even if you figure 6'3" and 225, that is still a big man if the guy has a very low bodyfat%.

Most comic book artists pay no attention to the sourcebook stats, and draw him WAY larger than that, even if you adjust for the exaggeration of the comic book style.

The point of that, is that if 6'3" 225 is the baseline, and they have to go ethier direction, I prefer they go in the same direction the comic artists, and get a guy 6'4" or 6'5", instead of 6'1" or 6'2".

To me, that goes back to looking like Superman first and foremost.
They can worry about making him look more like Clark later. They can even cheat with makeup and camera angles if they have to. This is Hollywood after all.

If they have an actor who easily looks like, sounds like, and acts like Superman, the Audience will buy him as Superman, and be much more forgiving of a Clark that seems a bit obvious.

That can be addressed easily anyway, just by pointing out to the Audience the fact that in his universe, no one even considers he has a secret identity, as he does not wear a mask as Superman.

Right now there is likely a huge crowd of unknown actors who have talent, and who are 6'3" or taller and 225 pounds of muscle or more, who just have not gotten a break.

Modern movie makers have been going for boymen actors for so long, that is what modern fans have come to expect. There are a ton of guys who look soft featured, or have pointy chins, or wide doe eyes etc... "boymen". You see them in most leading roles these days. It's like the target audience of all movies now are 14 year old girls.
 
There is no mental disease associated with people who are tall and muscular that causes them to not be able to act. Often they are just given hardly any lines to work with, and only one take, because they are being relegated to hired goon #3, or in his case mutant goon #3.

Right now, I am 100% confident the best way to go is to find a talented lesser known actor, who is tall and muscular, and who has a good face and voice for the role. Someone we can easily see as a Superman. Now if there is a well known guy I just am not thinking of, who fits the bill so be it.



Well said, thank you

GreenKToo
03-17-2010, 02:55 PM
IMO, I think the next guy will have very little resemblence to reeve or routh just for the fact that its a reboot.....

I dont envy them their job. Its gonna be tough finding the right guy.

Superman Prime
03-17-2010, 03:07 PM
Mike, I don't know why you think pretty much every sentence needs to be a new paragraph, but it takes up an unnecessary amount of space.

betamox
03-17-2010, 03:22 PM
Mike, I don't know why you think pretty much every sentence needs to be a new paragraph, but it takes up an unnecessary amount of space.
So does any post that isn't directly related to the topic on hand, but !
Well here we are.

Webhead2006
03-17-2010, 03:52 PM
yea we are more then likely going to see another uknown for the role. with what nolan said about how he would go with casting. Though it doesnt knock out some better known guys giving an audition/test. Then it will probably be done to a top list of say 3-5 with probably 2 well known actors, 2 unknown actors, and then maybe an out of field field choice. So they have a bit to go by with their finalists.

Zorex
03-17-2010, 04:30 PM
IMO, I think the next guy will have very little resemblence to reeve or routh just for the fact that its a reboot.....

I dont envy them their job. Its gonna be tough finding the right guy.
I agree with both points. After Returns was cast with a guy that reminded an awful lot of people an awful lot of Christopher Reeve, and the fact that this movie is going to be a new start for Superman on the big screen, I anticipate they'll be casting someone who doesn't bear much resemblance to either man.

I, of course, don't envy them either. Hell of a job, that's for sure...

SuperMike335!!
03-17-2010, 05:32 PM
Well said, thank you

You're Welcome. :yay:

SuperMike335!!
03-17-2010, 05:50 PM
Mike, I don't know why you think pretty much every sentence needs to be a new paragraph, but it takes up an unnecessary amount of space.

You got a problem with how I post? You got people here who post 5 pictures in a row and 3 people who quote them taking up 8x as much space. The reason I learned to break things up is we have a ton of people who come on and miss something, and then try to argue using logic already stated.
So in short, I break stuff up to avoid arguments based on Mr.Magoo. Also if someone wants to dissagree it makes it easier for them to cut it out of the quotes.

Johnny Drama
03-17-2010, 05:56 PM
You got a problem with how I post? You got people here who post 5 pictures in a row and 3 people who quote them taking up 8x as much space. The reason I learned to break things up is we have a ton of people who come on and miss something, and then try to argue using logic already stated.
So in short, I break stuff up to avoid arguments based on Mr.Magoo. Also if someone wants to dissagree it makes it easier for them to cut it out of the quotes.


Quite


Effing


True,


man.

SuperMike335!!
03-17-2010, 05:59 PM
IMO, I think the next guy will have very little resemblence to reeve or routh just for the fact that its a reboot.....

I dont envy them their job. Its gonna be tough finding the right guy.

100% agree.

I would not keep "looks like Reeve" as part of the criteria Either.

I think the best way to do it is to get the right criteria down first. Make a list if physical credentials, to start narrowing it down.

Get a lot of actors, known, semi-known, or unknown entirely, who meet the criteria of looks already. Then narrow them down for who has enough talent, and then further with those to the one who best fits the role.

Superman Prime
03-17-2010, 06:10 PM
You got a problem with how I post? You got people here who post 5 pictures in a row and 3 people who quote them taking up 8x as much space. The reason I learned to break things up is we have a ton of people who come on and miss something, and then try to argue using logic already stated.
So in short, I break stuff up to avoid arguments based on Mr.Magoo. Also if someone wants to dissagree it makes it easier for them to cut it out of the quotes.

Yes, it's slightly obnoxious. I brought it to your attention in case you were oblivious to that fact, but apparently you do it for a purpose.

SuperMike335!!
03-17-2010, 06:18 PM
Yes, it's slightly obnoxious. I brought it to your attention in case you were oblivious to that fact, but apparently you do it for a purpose.

Well, yes, You do make a valid point. I will tone it down a bit then, at least when I get into a rant and maybe put 2 or 3 of those sentences together to take up a little less space on the longer posts.

betamox
03-17-2010, 06:18 PM
Yes, it's slightly obnoxious. I brought it to your attention in case you were oblivious to that fact, but apparently you do it for a purpose.
Hey Prime sorry about my snappy remark earlier it was uncalled for and i really don't like coming across sounding so snarky !

db85usa
03-17-2010, 08:49 PM
I think the only thing to worry about from Nolan's end is the casting of Lois Lane. We all know that the casting of both katie Holmes & Maggie 'I'm extremley unattractive yet get the leads' Gyllenhall was really not the way to go as IMO both were just wrong for those roles, so casting for women may not be his strong suit. Put that side by side with the fact that we've never really gotten a great live action Lois lane outside of Hatcher & IMO Durance & since Bosworth left such a bad taste in our mouths I think it's really important to tread carefully when casting.




Steve

Totally agree. Whoever plays Lois, her character can't afford to take a back seat to the story the way Rachel Dawes did for Batman if in fact Lois Lane is treated as the female lead character in The Man of Steel. Obviously there needs to be chemistry between her and Clark and Superman -- an emotional connection or attachment that doesn't need to be forced and overdone the way it was in SR which was convoluted, predictable, and dull.

They do need to tread careful but, I wouldn't mind seeing a change in the relationship. It's becoming apparent that we may not see another dorky and clumsy Clark Kent ala Christopher Reeve. If that's true, then chances are we may see a different take on Lois Lane to go along with it. Therein lies the real question... Can the audience and fans truly tolerate Lois Lane as the main love interest once again? Or is it time for an entirely new and different approach?

Nolan and Co. may flirt with the idea of the TV show, "Lois & Clark." A lot of people really admired the way the show handled the relationship as if they were a team of investigators with the Daily Planet. I found both Teri Hatcher's Lois Lane and Dean Cain's Clark Kent to be very refreshing and entertaining to say the least. It's going to be interesting when the casting call for Lois Lane begins and how her character is going to be presented.

RachelDawes
03-17-2010, 09:29 PM
Totally agree. Whoever plays Lois, her character can't afford to take a back seat to the story the way Rachel Dawes did for Batman if in fact Lois Lane is treated as the female lead character in The Man of Steel. Obviously there needs to be chemistry between her and Clark and Superman -- an emotional connection or attachment that doesn't need to be forced and overdone the way it was in SR which was convoluted, predictable, and dull.

They do need to tread careful but, I wouldn't mind seeing a change in the relationship. It's becoming apparent that we may not see another dorky and clumsy Clark Kent ala Christopher Reeve. If that's true, then chances are we may see a different take on Lois Lane to go along with it. Therein lies the real question... Can the audience and fans truly tolerate Lois Lane as the main love interest once again? Or is it time for an entirely new and different approach?

Nolan and Co. may flirt with the idea of the TV show, "Lois & Clark." A lot of people really admired the way the show handled the relationship as if they were a team of investigators with the Daily Planet. I found both Teri Hatcher's Lois Lane and Dean Cain's Clark Kent to be very refreshing and entertaining to say the least. It's going to be interesting when the casting call for Lois Lane begins and how her character is going to be presented.

I think the audience would be more unhappy if Lois and Clark didn't have a romance.

Webhead2006
03-17-2010, 10:35 PM
well for me personally i want to see the romance happen between lois and clark but build it up through the new film series. Start off with lois not really caring for clark. but over the course of the film series they find they work well together and then a deeper more meaningful relationship forms between them.

As for the clark kent/superman actor. i totally agree we dont need to have a reeeve looking guy again. i been saying it for awhile myself. i want them to find a new look within said choosen actor for superman. its high time to have a new defining face for the character. I do really love reeve's superman and his look. But i dont want that to be the only defining film look for modern film goers.

db85usa
03-17-2010, 11:55 PM
I think the audience would be more unhappy if Lois and Clark didn't have a romance.

I didn't say they shouldn't have a romance but could an audience tolerate Lois as the main love interest once again or would it be time to introduce a new take on her, i.e. having her and Kent being a team like they were in Lois & Clark. You can only do the girl loves superhero plot so many times before it gets dated. I mean, look at the previous Spider-Man films... I couldn't stand Mary Jane and I'm sure a lot of people couldn't. What purpose did she serve anyway? Lois in SR, I really didn't even care for at all. I still to this day have never understood why Bosworth even got the nod.

And Rachel Dawes (the character), no disrespect but I felt her character was very weak in both Batman films. The whole love interest stuff is nothing new, so I was presenting the question as a what if? What if the romance is more subtle this time around and we instead see Lois and Clark actually work together at the Daily Planet or Superman and Lois work together much like for example, how Batman and Alfred in BB and TDK work together, or Gordon working alongside Batman.

It was new, and entertaining. Something Batman fans hadn't seen on film because it was a reboot. In a reboot, things change and new twists, and an unseen portrayal of characters are presented. Of course Alfred has always had Bruce's back but it ran a lot deeper and was portrayed a heck of a lot more in Nolan's universe. As for the next Superman film, I would prefer a stronger Lois Lane who can take care of herself that way Superman can focus on the much larger problem(s) at hand, (the main villain/conflict.)

It comes off as extremely campy to have Lois being in danger all the time as a result of her relationship with Superman. I don't think anyone should know about Lois and Superman's relationship except for the audience. And since the next Superman is a reboot, it's safe to assume that maybe Lois and Clark/Superman's relationship will be different.

GreenKToo
03-18-2010, 07:02 AM
I think Lois needs a little competition..maybe a Lana thats a knockout.
Maybe even have her be a little better looking than Lois. But at the end of the day, Supes falls for Lois.

Lobo
03-18-2010, 07:14 AM
^I'd use Cat Grant for that

elgaz
03-18-2010, 07:16 AM
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9178/sivportrait3v2harmonwal.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/sivportrait3v2harmonwal.jpg/)





Steve

Great manip, but not just feeling this guy as Superman, too much like Bale in his features. And yes I know in the comics and animations Kent and Wayne look very alike, but I don't think it will work on screen.

GreenKToo
03-18-2010, 07:30 AM
^I'd use Cat Grant for that
That'd be fine as well.:yay:

GreenKToo
03-18-2010, 07:33 AM
I dont think it matters if he has a slight resemblence to bale. just as long as he doesnt look like a twin of routh is whats important to me.

elgaz
03-18-2010, 07:35 AM
As far as Superman build goes, I think he needs to be at least 6"4 and I echo SuperMike's comments on broad shoulders/chest, etc.

I know he had totally the wrong face & hair, but Dolph Lundgren in the late 80s had - what I consider to be - the perfect build for a potential Superman. Broad shoulders, big arms, big chest, 6"5 in height, narrow waist - perfect triangular male torso which is often utilised by comic artists, although overblown to excessive proportions. Anyone who's seen Rocky 4 will know that this guy looked like a powerhouse even though he wasn't quite as muscular as some bodybuilders and olympians, it was more down to his overall height and shape and the broadness of his torso.

However, he wasn't so so big that he looked like a bodybuilder in a suit.

IMO this is the kind of build they need to be looking for when casting Superman. He's the biggest and best of all heroes and in perfect physical condition, he needs to look like a God amongst men. Walsh, Cavill etc just dont have this build and even if they bulk up they'll never have this natural height or be broad enough.

http://www.momofreaksout.com/media/2/20061006-Lundgren.jpg

http://faultytowershotel.blogspot.com/uploaded_images/dolph-lundgren-745632.jpg

http://gonet.cz/%7Etri65dnigalerie/porad/600/a/aba155d0c22e44a78613b6828de4ad77.jpg

http://www.nostalgiaholic.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/youngdolph1.jpg

Daybreak_st
03-18-2010, 08:04 AM
I didn't say they shouldn't have a romance but could an audience tolerate Lois as the main love interest once again or would it be time to introduce a new take on her, i.e. having her and Kent being a team like they were in Lois & Clark. You can only do the girl loves superhero plot so many times before it gets dated. I mean, look at the previous Spider-Man films... I couldn't stand Mary Jane and I'm sure a lot of people couldn't. What purpose did she serve anyway? Lois in SR, I really didn't even care for at all. I still to this day have never understood why Bosworth even got the nod.

And Rachel Dawes (the character), no disrespect but I felt her character was very weak in both Batman films. The whole love interest stuff is nothing new, so I was presenting the question as a what if? What if the romance is more subtle this time around and we instead see Lois and Clark actually work together at the Daily Planet or Superman and Lois work together much like for example, how Batman and Alfred in BB and TDK work together, or Gordon working alongside Batman.

It was new, and entertaining. Something Batman fans hadn't seen on film because it was a reboot. In a reboot, things change and new twists, and an unseen portrayal of characters are presented. Of course Alfred has always had Bruce's back but it ran a lot deeper and was portrayed a heck of a lot more in Nolan's universe. As for the next Superman film, I would prefer a stronger Lois Lane who can take care of herself that way Superman can focus on the much larger problem(s) at hand, (the main villain/conflict.)

It comes off as extremely campy to have Lois being in danger all the time as a result of her relationship with Superman. I don't think anyone should know about Lois and Superman's relationship except for the audience. And since the next Superman is a reboot, it's safe to assume that maybe Lois and Clark/Superman's relationship will be different.

Yeah i agree, something like Lois and Clark that focuses on them as partners, really develops each character's personality would be infinetly more enjoyable than another love story. Not saying the love story isn't important, i think it is, but i too would like it to develop over time, Lois can be facinated by superman without being head over heals, as was shown in STAS. I like how lois and clark were friends in the L&C tv show. That's how i think they should focus on the new film. Give them something to do, investigate, etc. Then have their feelings start off maybe with a slight curiousity about each other and grow over the film series. Both L&C and Smallville have shown us that the approach can work well, and elevates Lois beyond the "damsel in distress" or simple "superhero love interests" it makes her more likable like Pepper Potts in Iron man, more of a fully fleshed out very likable supporting character.

Man of Tomorrow
03-18-2010, 09:23 AM
Walsh is pretty much Routh's height.

That's good enough for Superman.

Young Superman
03-18-2010, 09:45 AM
I Lana's in the reboot then Kate Mara for Lana Lang.
http://www.katemara.net/wp-content/uploads/kate_mara-768273.jpghttp://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/27444/851601-ll11.jpg

Daybreak_st
03-18-2010, 10:05 AM
just thought of this guy, Greg Plitt. DR. Mahatten's body was based on him. He had a small part in "The Good Shepard". He's had a few other acting credits but who knows his skill level. Here he is:

more info here: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/greg_plitt_interview.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Plitt



http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2009/greg_plitt_interview_csm.jpg (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2009/greg_plitt_interview_c.jpg)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/enlarge.gif Click Image To Enlarge.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2009/greg_plitt_interview_l.jpg


He could definitely screen test, but i'm not sure about acting range and i really want a good actor first and formost. But the dude has a great superhero build, he's 6'1 (a little shorter for supes) and like 195.

Daybreak_st
03-18-2010, 10:10 AM
Here's my pick for lana:

Here's another choice for Lana Lang

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/rachelle-lefevre-push-los-angeles-premiere-Iaq9Jh.jpg

Her name is Rachelle Lefevre, she has an extensive movie/tv career although i'd say she was unknown to general adudiences:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachelle_Lefevre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachelle_Lefevre)

She seems like a good choice for adult lana while this girl

http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/18/67/33/35/18978246.jpg
plays a young lana in flashbacks. Her name is Molly quinn.

Frodo
03-18-2010, 11:19 AM
Yeah i agree, something like Lois and Clark that focuses on them as partners, really develops each character's personality would be infinetly more enjoyable than another love story. Not saying the love story isn't important, i think it is, but i too would like it to develop over time, Lois can be facinated by superman without being head over heals, as was shown in STAS. I like how lois and clark were friends in the L&C tv show. That's how i think they should focus on the new film. Give them something to do, investigate, etc. Then have their feelings start off maybe with a slight curiousity about each other and grow over the film series. Both L&C and Smallville have shown us that the approach can work well, and elevates Lois beyond the "damsel in distress" or simple "superhero love interests" it makes her more likable like Pepper Potts in Iron man, more of a fully fleshed out very likable supporting character.

I'm for this approach as well. I'd prefer they don't try to shoehorn the romance into the first film. The first film should be about rivals becoming partners . I also think Lois should be intrigued by Superman instead of falling at first sight.

Frodo
03-18-2010, 11:29 AM
As for the clark kent/superman actor. i totally agree we dont need to have a reeeve looking guy again. i been saying it for awhile myself. i want them to find a new look within said choosen actor for superman. its high time to have a new defining face for the character. I do really love reeve's superman and his look. But i dont want that to be the only defining film look for modern film goers.

Again , I totally agree. I think alot of fans have an emotional connection to Chris Reeve , and he was great in the role. However , there will never be another Chris Reeve no matter how hard people try to find one. The new Superman should have his own look seperate and apart from Reeve , Routh, or anyone else who's played the role.

That-Guy
03-18-2010, 11:32 AM
As far as Superman build goes, I think he needs to be at least 6"4 and I echo SuperMike's comments on broad shoulders/chest, etc.

I know he had totally the wrong face & hair, but Dolph Lundgren in the late 80s had - what I consider to be - the perfect build for a potential Superman. Broad shoulders, big arms, big chest, 6"5 in height, narrow waist - perfect triangular male torso which is often utilised by comic artists, although overblown to excessive proportions. Anyone who's seen Rocky 4 will know that this guy looked like a powerhouse even though he wasn't quite as muscular as some bodybuilders and olympians, it was more down to his overall height and shape and the broadness of his torso.

However, he wasn't so so big that he looked like a bodybuilder in a suit.

IMO this is the kind of build they need to be looking for when casting Superman. He's the biggest and best of all heroes and in perfect physical condition, he needs to look like a God amongst men. Walsh, Cavill etc just dont have this build and even if they bulk up they'll never have this natural height or be broad enough.

http://www.momofreaksout.com/media/2/20061006-Lundgren.jpg

http://faultytowershotel.blogspot.com/uploaded_images/dolph-lundgren-745632.jpg

http://gonet.cz/%7Etri65dnigalerie/porad/600/a/aba155d0c22e44a78613b6828de4ad77.jpg

http://www.nostalgiaholic.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/youngdolph1.jpg

LOL, I never noticed how much Dolph looked like Vanilla Ice on 'roids in Rocky IV.

Superark
03-18-2010, 11:40 AM
I Lana's in the reboot then Kate Mara for Lana Lang.
http://www.katemara.net/wp-content/uploads/kate_mara-768273.jpghttp://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/27444/851601-ll11.jpg


:up: really good choice! I think she'd be a great choice for Lois too

Young Superman
03-18-2010, 11:50 AM
Thanks

daywalker2007
03-18-2010, 11:57 AM
That's Awesome this is who I want for Superman.:woot:

I have to say Walsh looks absolutely perfect in that manip.

I can see now why everyone is saying this guy suits the character.
He definitely does. Slick back the hair a bit more, and he would be perfect!

SuperMike335!!
03-18-2010, 01:30 PM
****** We have another winner!!! *****

Let me introduce you guys to James Scott:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1668673/bio (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1668673/bio)

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5278/jamesscottfulljune20.jpg

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7972/42261917.jpg

6’4"

31 Years old.

Not a lot of experience, besides 3 soaps operas, but you got to start somewhere.

Excellent look and physique.

Hopefully he can hide his British accent as well as seemingly every other British actor.

He has that kind of build that looks like jacked shirtless, and likely in tight clothing, but just dissapears into a suit.

Would be a world Class shame if he doesn’t screen test.

I think I may have found me new favorite after watching this video:

rUJh3oVD_WY&feature=related

SuperMike335!!
03-18-2010, 01:44 PM
Few More of 6'4" James Scott:

http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/1779/20091014jamesscottforar.jpg

http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/8642/jamesscottejdimera.jpg

http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/6739/jamesscottcloseupjune20.jpg

Looks Manly. Check :cyclops:

Just get let the makeup team do a little work, blue contacts should work well with his hazel eyes too.

His hair even looks like one could pull down a loose lock of the hair into a good "S" curl.

SuperMike335!!
03-18-2010, 02:01 PM
crud...double post.

SuperMike335!!
03-18-2010, 02:03 PM
And yet a couple more:

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5443/jamesscottnbc2009.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8115/10523424c6d5781eb1e41b6.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8844/ejwedding.jpg

BTW he also studied acting at LAMDA:

London Academy of Music and Dramatic Art

MAN O STEEL
03-18-2010, 02:08 PM
His face is not doing it for me at all. I see nothing of Superman in his face. Everything else about him seems good from the height to the voice & the acting seems ok to, but the face is just bleh, not Superman to me, no makeup in the world could change that. I like that you put another guy out there though, we need some more ppl throw around.





Steve

ImWithTeamConan
03-18-2010, 02:24 PM
I thought the same thing: there's something oft-putting about the shape of his face. Maybe it's the angle in some of those pics.

Webhead2006
03-18-2010, 02:49 PM
elgaz i agree that guy in his prime in the 80s would be a great body for superman actor to have, supermike nice to see another name thrown out. He has a good look i dont know his work. But agree most of these guys we are talking about should if they want try and test for the role. Frodo totally i want to finally get past reeve being the modern defining look for superman. i dont want the next got being stuck to look like reeve, or act like reeve. its time to find a new face/look for the character.

SuperMike335!!
03-18-2010, 02:53 PM
I thought the same thing: there's something oft-putting about the shape of his face. Maybe it's the angle in some of those pics.

I dunno, maybe just those pics, see if I can find any better ones. He has thin eyebrows, but that is the thing a makeup team corrects anyway. In some of the pictures his hair is a bit big in style too, but again that is easily correctable.

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/2445/jamesscott2128227.jpg

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1893/ej7709m.jpg

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4472/68779jamesscott02.jpg

ChickenScratch
03-18-2010, 02:57 PM
Not digging that pick. He seems ok, but he doesn't have the Superman look to him. Plus I've got a mental block against non-Americans playing the part. And yes I know Batman is now a Brit, but still, I can't accept a non-American Superman.

Superman Prime
03-18-2010, 03:04 PM
He comes across to me as a smooth-talking mobman.

Man of Tomorrow
03-18-2010, 03:10 PM
He doesn't resemble Superman facially.

Thumbs down for me.

SuperMike335!!
03-18-2010, 03:16 PM
Well, this is the last pic I will post of the guy then, as it seems everyone thinks he has the wrong facial features.

Not sure we are looking at the same guy though? He looks similar to how I imagine Superman looking.

Is it you want someone who looks like Reeve?

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6485/n161502038311088959180.jpg

betamox
03-18-2010, 03:21 PM
Well, this is the last pic I will post of the guy then, as it seems everyone thinks he has the wrong facial features.

Not sure we are looking at the same guy though? He looks similar to how I imagine Superman looking.

Is it you want someone who looks like Reeve?

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6485/n161502038311088959180.jpg

This guy testing would be a good idea, although i still like Walsh better
the one thing i have trouble with is the blinking he did quite a bit of it in that video.

Dark Knight
03-18-2010, 03:22 PM
^I'd use Cat Grant for that





Agreed!

It's time we see Cat Grant give Lois some competition in this Nolan Supes reboot film.

Dark Knight
03-18-2010, 03:24 PM
Well, this is the last pic I will post of the guy then, as it seems everyone thinks he has the wrong facial features.

Not sure we are looking at the same guy though? He looks similar to how I imagine Superman looking.

Is it you want someone who looks like Reeve?

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6485/n161502038311088959180.jpg






Ahhh....screw it.....give him a SCREENTEST huh Mike?

Screw it and lets see what happens....maaaaaaybe he can act! LOL

Sheesh...

SuperMike335!!
03-18-2010, 03:30 PM
This guy testing would be a good idea, although i still like Walsh better
the one thing i have trouble with is the blinking he did quite a bit of it in that video.

Don't know if that is something he controls when he acts or not. Harmon Walsh has a lisp too, but he may control that well while acting.

Anyway, if they screen test enough guys they will get one who has the look, physical credentials and acting talent.

Some people have off stuff that shows up in more candid videos, where they are not really acting, that they can controle while the camera is running and it counts.

SuperMike335!!
03-18-2010, 03:33 PM
Ahhh....screw it.....give him a SCREENTEST huh Mike?

Screw it and lets see what happens....maaaaaaybe he can act! LOL

Sheesh...

No reason to be rude.

MAN O STEEL
03-18-2010, 03:45 PM
Quick James Scott manip. Didn't do to much to the costume or anything, just wanted it to be a quick job. Not a fan of his look but judge for yourself I guess.

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7217/supermaniii075v12.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/i/supermaniii075v12.jpg/)




Steve

Daybreak_st
03-18-2010, 04:00 PM
just thought of this guy, Greg Plitt. DR. Mahatten's body was based on him. He had a small part in "The Good Shepard". He's had a few other acting credits but who knows his skill level. Here he is:

more info here: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/greg_plitt_interview.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Plitt



http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2009/greg_plitt_interview_csm.jpg (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2009/greg_plitt_interview_c.jpg)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/enlarge.gif Click Image To Enlarge.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2009/greg_plitt_interview_l.jpg



He could definitely screen test, but i'm not sure about acting range and i really want a good actor first and formost. But the dude has a great superhero build, he's 6'1 (a little shorter for supes) and like 195.



What about this guy, does anyone know anything about him?

Green Ghost
03-18-2010, 04:03 PM
Well, this is the last pic I will post of the guy then, as it seems everyone thinks he has the wrong facial features.

Not sure we are looking at the same guy though? He looks similar to how I imagine Superman looking.

Is it you want someone who looks like Reeve?

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6485/n161502038311088959180.jpg

:dry: don't see it. sorry, but there isn't anything that says Superman or Clark Kent...

Dark Knight
03-18-2010, 04:23 PM
No reason to be rude.






Not being rude and nothng personal.... just having fun with ya man.

Hey...I dig your favorite choice in Cudmore as a potential Supes though.

BH/HHH
03-18-2010, 04:49 PM
Quick James Scott manip. Didn't do to much to the costume or anything, just wanted it to be a quick job. Not a fan of his look but judge for yourself I guess.

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7217/supermaniii075v12.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/i/supermaniii075v12.jpg/)




Steve

Not for me, he looks like his face is pressed up against glass :D

batman44
03-18-2010, 05:42 PM
Considering all the craziness that's been going on with Captain America, I can't wait till the Superman casting process starts.

MAN O STEEL
03-18-2010, 05:44 PM
Not for me, he looks like his face is pressed up against glass :D


http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7217/supermaniii075v12.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/i/supermaniii075v12.jpg/)






Steve

Webhead2006
03-18-2010, 05:53 PM
not a bad manip up a few posts man o steel. also i really hope we will see a bunch of key supporting characters make it into this film who hasnt been in the films yet.

elgaz
03-18-2010, 06:00 PM
+1 for SuperMike's suggestion of James Scott, I definitely see a Superman look there

B
03-18-2010, 06:09 PM
James Scott:

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5278/jamesscottfulljune20.jpg

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7972/42261917.jpg

6’4"

31 Years old.

Not a lot of experience, besides 3 soaps operas, but you got to start somewhere.

Excellent look and physique.

Hopefully he can hide his British accent as well as seemingly every other British actor.

He has that kind of build that looks like jacked shirtless, and likely in tight clothing, but just dissapears into a suit.

Would be a world Class shame if he doesn’t screen test.


Not a bad suggestion, definatly worthy of a screen test at the very least as are almost all the suggestions that people are throwing around in here :up:

db85usa
03-18-2010, 06:55 PM
Quick James Scott manip. Didn't do to much to the costume or anything, just wanted it to be a quick job. Not a fan of his look but judge for yourself I guess.

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7217/supermaniii075v12.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/i/supermaniii075v12.jpg/)




Steve

This guy doesn't have the look whatsoever and this pretty much sealed the deal. However, excellent manip Steve :up:

Superman Prime
03-18-2010, 06:59 PM
I wouldn't say he "doesn't have the look whatsoever". Strong jaw and chin, squinted eyes. He looks like Superman in that manip even if he is a big step away from Reeve.