The Official Superman Casting Thread

[Slugster]

I watched a doc about an unsolved murder and the guy acting like the victim had a great look, black hair, strong face, with a great jaw line and tall couldn’t see his build.
Anyway...
There is someone out there I’m sure of it but, the question is...Will Nolan find him.
My hope is yes and I’m sure he will at least find someone who can do a good job of acting but with Superman he must look the part.
I just hope they do the suit better and not try and make it look like a uniform with pads and plates. I completely agreed with the Batman because he is a non super hero but Superman is the Superhero and his suit is as Iconic as he is.

[nintendo nerd]

Cavill is an average actor. I love how some people think because someone is British = Great actor.

He is the worst actor in the Tudors, by far. Too bad his character didn't lose his head like the other cast members.

[That-Guy]

Eric Bana is 42 years old. Come on.

This ain't an origin movie, bud. Thus if they want to go with an older Superman, 42 is an okay age. Iron Man/Sherlock Holmes is 45 right now, after all.



Just for fun, here is a proposed cast of fairly big name (or at least well-known) actors that I think could work in this film, should Nolan & Co. go all out and pick up as many big names as possible (like he did with the Batman films).


Superman: Eric Bana
Lois Lane: Rachel Weisz
Lex Luthor: Billy Crudup
Brainiac: Stanley Tucci
Jimmy Olsen: Paul Dano
Lana Lang: Christina Hendricks
Jor-El: Ralph Fiennes
Lara: Kate Winslet
Jonathan Kent: Mark Harmon
Martha Kent: Holly Hunter
Perry White: Ed Harris
John Corben: Michael Shannon

[That-Guy]

Yeah, but Cavill could prolly act circles around Cudmore..
keep in mind I support neither.

Another thing..Nobodies opinion around here is fact unless you have proof to the contrary. It's your OPINION that Cavill couldn't pull off Superman, just like it's your OPINION that Cudmore would be better. You dont know who would be better in the role, and that's a fact.;)

Thank you. Couldn't have said it better myself.

As for the guy who claims Cavill is the worst actor on The Tudors, I'd wager that you either haven't watched much of the show, or you're simply biased because you don't want him to play Superman. Cavill is very solid. If he wasn't, they would have found a way to write him out of the show already (like they've done with a LOT of cast members).

[Derrick9592]

Hey guys, here's someone new, how bout Jesse Guillion? He's 6'3 and 24 years old (turning 25 in June). He seems to have the look.


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[Derrick9592]

Hey guys, here's someone new, how bout Jesse Guillion? He's 6'3 and 24 years old (turning 25 in June). He seems to have the look.


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[flickchick85]

Fella, this is a complete fabrication. Try researching your points first before stating them, because it does not make you look good however valid your overall position may be. Here are definitive claims right here on all his close-calls (skip to 1:20), from Cavill himself:

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People hang onto favorites, what's so new about that? You weren't here during the pre-BB days, but trust me, Bale's name was going around the internet for at least 3 years, all throughout the various film productions featuring Bats.

Superman requires a very particular look, and as such, I've had very few favorites for this role. Cavill is still on top for me simply because I haven't found anyone with a better look and the proper acting credentials.


ITA with ALL of this. That's why he's my #1 as well, though I'm certainly not opposed to some of these unknowns getting a shot.

And I'd like to add that I used to be very anti-Cavill during the casting of the other Superman movies because, imo, he simply looked too young. I mean, during the SR casting, the guy was 21-years-old. That's a kid, and he looked it. Superman wasn't supposed to be a kid. Isn't it possible that casting directors felt the same way? But over the last few years, he's really grown up. This is the FIRST Supes movie on which I've supported him for the role because not only does he have the acting skills (which was never the issue with him), but unlike before, he actually looks the part now.

To demonstrate my point, here he is in 2005, around the time of SR auditions:

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3670/013sdq.jpg

That's not Superman at all. That looks exactly like what he was at the time - a 21-year-old kid.

These pictures are of him about a year ago:
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3649/090m.jpg

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4079/hchenrycavillmenshealth.jpg


So the whole "his time has passed" argument is just crazy to me, because imo, his time was never back then - If McG's movie had gone through, his casting would've been a huge mistake, imo. Just too damn young (and young-looking). Right now, this is the very first time they are making a Superman movie where I think he's actually right for the role, in both acting (which again was never the issue) AND, finally, looks.

And he's good on the Tudors, imo - FAR from their weakest link. I can't stand JRM's over-acting in that show, actually.

[db85usa]

Yeah, but Cavill could prolly act circles around Cudmore..
keep in mind I support neither.

Another thing..Nobodies opinion around here is fact unless you have proof to the contrary. It's your OPINION that Cavill couldn't pull off Superman, just like it's your OPINION that Cudmore would be better. You dont know who would be better in the role, and that's a fact.;)

Yep. Leave it up to the experts, I say. Point is, Walsh, Cudmore, Cavill, anyone can show up for a screentest and bomb it.

[Bad Superman]

ITA with ALL of this. That's why he's my #1 as well, though I'm certainly not opposed to some of these unknowns getting a shot.

And I'd like to add that I used to be very anti-Cavill during the casting of the other Superman movies because, imo, he simply looked too young. I mean, during the SR casting, the guy was 21-years-old. That's a kid, and he looked it. Superman wasn't supposed to be a kid. Isn't it possible that casting directors felt the same way? But over the last few years, he's really grown up. This is the FIRST Supes movie on which I've supported him for the role because not only does he have the acting skills (which was never the issue with him), but unlike before, he actually looks the part now.

To demonstrate my point, here he is in 2005, around the time of SR auditions:

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3670/013sdq.jpg

That's not Superman at all. That looks exactly like what he was at the time - a 21-year-old kid.

These pictures are of him about a year ago:
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3649/090m.jpg

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4079/hchenrycavillmenshealth.jpg


So the whole "his time has passed" argument is just crazy to me, because imo, his time was never back then - If McG's movie had gone through, his casting would've been a huge mistake, imo. Just too damn young (and young-looking). Right now, this is the very first time they are making a Superman movie where I think he's actually right for the role, in both acting (which again was never the issue) AND, finally, looks.

And he's good on the Tudors, imo - FAR from their weakest link. I can't stand JRM's over-acting in that show, actually.

:up:

[db85usa]

This ain't an origin movie, bud. Thus if they want to go with an older Superman, 42 is an okay age. Iron Man/Sherlock Holmes is 45 right now, after all.



Just for fun, here is a proposed cast of fairly big name (or at least well-known) actors that I think could work in this film, should Nolan & Co. go all out and pick up as many big names as possible (like he did with the Batman films).

First of all, I'm not your bud. Second, this isn't Iron-Man and as far as we know, this won't be a Kingdom Come version of Superman either. There's no mask involved with Superman so with masked superheroes, it's easier to pull off with an older actor. Take Bale/Batman for example. 31 when cast as Batman and now he's 36, so he's in that good age range to close out the Batman franchise before turning 40. The general consensus is that the actor for Supes will be 25-30. Age will show on film for Superman.



Reeve 25-26 - Superman II (filmed at the same time as S:TM)


http://blog.newsok.com/nerdage/files/2009/06/christopher-reeve.jpg

Reeve 10 years later (Superman IV)


http://www.capedwonder.com/images/picture-folder/images/sIV/CW-SIV-Reeve-portrait-5.jpg


Anyone can see the difference in facial structure. I think Superman needs to be cast at a younger age 25-30 (or 31 in the same fashion as Bale, maybe 32-33 like Ryan Reynolds for GL.) Still, I'd rather not see an old man in a suit with a cape, let alone Eric Bana who is 42 years old and not to mention, was already the HULK/Bruce Banner in 03. So, this is a Superman Reboot. Do we really want to confuse everyone by casting someone as Superman who already played Hulk? Again, it's much easier to pull off the age matter with an actor like Downey who wears a mask for Iron-Man. Please don't compare completely two different characters from two different universes/franchises.

It's apples and oranges.

[That-Guy]

ITA with ALL of this. That's why he's my #1 as well, though I'm certainly not opposed to some of these unknowns getting a shot.

And I'd like to add that I used to be very anti-Cavill during the casting of the other Superman movies because, imo, he simply looked too young. I mean, during the SR casting, the guy was 21-years-old. That's a kid, and he looked it. Superman wasn't supposed to be a kid. Isn't it possible that casting directors felt the same way? But over the last few years, he's really grown up. This is the FIRST Supes movie on which I've supported him for the role because not only does he have the acting skills (which was never the issue with him), but unlike before, he actually looks the part now.

To demonstrate my point, here he is in 2005, around the time of SR auditions:

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3670/013sdq.jpg

That's not Superman at all. That looks exactly like what he was at the time - a 21-year-old kid.

These pictures are of him about a year ago:
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3649/090m.jpg

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4079/hchenrycavillmenshealth.jpg


So the whole "his time has passed" argument is just crazy to me, because imo, his time was never back then - If McG's movie had gone through, his casting would've been a huge mistake, imo. Just too damn young (and young-looking). Right now, this is the very first time they are making a Superman movie where I think he's actually right for the role, in both acting (which again was never the issue) AND, finally, looks.

And he's good on the Tudors, imo - FAR from their weakest link. I can't stand JRM's over-acting in that show, actually.

This is exactly how I feel. I wholeheartedly agree with you about Cavill back before SR... the guy WAS too young then. I didn't support him then either, for that very reason. He looked like Superboy then. But now, he does look like Superman, at least I think so. And, perhaps more importantly, he IS a good actor. It almost seems like a no-brainer for me at this point. Plus. he's supposedly ultra-ripped now due to his role in Immortals/War of the Gods, so he probably looks even more like Supes now.

[That-Guy]

First of all, I'm not your bud. Second, this isn't Iron-Man and as far as we know, this won't be a Kingdom Come version of Superman either. There's no mask involved with Superman so with masked superheroes, it's easier to pull off with an older actor. Take Bale/Batman for example. 31 when cast as Batman and now he's 36, so he's in that good age range to close out the Batman franchise before turning 40. The general consensus is that the actor for Supes will be 25-30. Age will show on film for Superman.



Reeve 25-26 - Superman II (filmed at the same time as S:TM)


http://blog.newsok.com/nerdage/files/2009/06/christopher-reeve.jpg

Reeve 10 years later (Superman IV)


http://www.capedwonder.com/images/picture-folder/images/sIV/CW-SIV-Reeve-portrait-5.jpg


Anyone can see the difference in facial structure. I think Superman needs to be cast at a younger age 25-30 (or 31 in the same fashion as Bale, maybe 32-33 like Ryan Reynolds for GL.) Still, I'd rather not see an old man in a suit with a cape, let alone Eric Bana who is 42 years old and not to mention, was already the HULK/Bruce Banner in 03. So, this is a Superman Reboot. Do we really want to confuse everyone by casting someone as Superman who already played Hulk? Again, it's much easier to pull off the age matter with an actor like Downey who wears a mask for Iron-Man. Please don't compare completely two different characters from two different universes/franchises.

It's apples and oranges.

Lighten up, will you?

It was only a suggestion. And since The Human Torch is now Captain America, Deadpool is Green Lantern and the Hulk was last played by a different actor, I think Bana could get away with playing a different superhero.

Also, while it is true that they would likely go for someone a younger, we don't know that's what will happen. Hell, we're getting a Robin Hood origin movie this summer with Russel Crowe, who is 46 and LOOKS it. Bana, at least right now, could pass for 32-35.

And since it's already been confirmed that this ISN'T an origin story, an older Superman might work well. Jon Hamm's name has also been floating around... he's 39, isn't he? But if they want an older Superman, he might work. Bana (possibly) could as well.

[That-Guy]

Hey I posted this over in the Superman casting thread but that place is giving me a headache so I thought I'd post it here as well.

Here is a potential cast of fairly big name (or at least well-known) actors that I think could work in this film, should Nolan & Co. go all out and pick up as many big names as possible (like he did with the Batman films). Obviously, a cast like this is damn near impossible, but I just wanted to see what you guys thought.


Superman: Eric Bana
Lois Lane: Rachel Weisz
Lex Luthor: Billy Crudup
Brainiac: Stanley Tucci
Jimmy Olsen: Paul Dano
Lana Lang: Christina Hendricks
Jor-El: Ralph Fiennes
Lara: Kate Winslet
Jonathan Kent: Mark Harmon
Martha Kent: Holly Hunter
Perry White: Ed Harris
John Corben: Michael Shannon

[batman44]

That would be sweet. Bana's role in Troy always makes me think Superman for reason and Tucci as Brainiac is just awesome.

[Frodo]

George Reeves was 37 once he started playing Superman in 1951. No one complained about his age then , save Reeves himself who may have towards the end of the series run. Most film goers won't climb the walls if the actor who is cast as Superman is 34 .

Yes, Chris Reeve was older when he did Superman 4 , but people at the time didn't complain about his age, they complained that the film was crap.

Imo, the character can be in his 20's but it doesn't mean the actor who plays him has to be the characters actual age .

If the guy is in his mid 30's like Reeves was and could pass for younger, i.e Tobey Macguire, he should at least get a screentest.

[db85usa]

This thread has taken a turn for the worst. It's gone from models with no acting history, to Cavill, formula one drivers, and now 42 year old Eric Bana. And then goes in a merry-go-round and keeps getting worse.

Are you serious? No wonder barely anyone is posting in this. It's filled with nothing but Cavill fans who keep collapsing the entire thread and others who persist to post unrealistic suggestions. This thread has unofficial written all over it. A mod should seriously consider closing the thread until the actual "Official Superman Casting" begins.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I agree if a 35 or so year old actor "looks" young enough, I don't care if they are playing a character younger than they are in real life. Because movies are pretend.

[db85usa]

George Reeves was 37 once he started playing Superman in 1951. No one complained about his age then , save Reeves himself who may have towards the end of the series run. Most film goers won't climb the walls if the actor who is cast as Superman is 34 .

Yes, Chris Reeve was older when he did Superman 4 , but people at the time didn't complain about his age, they complained that the film was crap.

Imo, the character can be in his 20's but it doesn't mean the actor who plays him has to be the characters actual age .

If the guy is in his mid 30's like Reeves was and could pass for younger, i.e Tobey Macguire, he should at least get a screentest.

This is entirely different than the point I was trying to make. If you cast someone as Superman at (geez age 42) and you're doing a planned trilogy and you don't film all 3 at once, what, he is going to be close to 50 by the time the trilogy is done? A 50 year old Supergrandpa in a suit? That's my point. They did it right with Reeve being 26 at the time.

[GreenKToo]

I'm not really on one side of the fence or the other.
They said it wasnt an origin, which could mean an older established Superman,
or it could mean a Superman that is younger and has just started out.
There is not enough info to make a guess one way or the other.

[That-Guy]

Thanks, yeah, Tucci is a great actor who can play a really cold-blooded bad guy. He could bring a lot to a character like Brainy, easily.

And yeah, I've been able to picture Bana as Supes for a while, since Troy and Black Hawk Down. I wish he hadn't taken the part in Hulk and held out for a different superhero character. But times are 'a changing and many actors who have played one comic book character are taking on another, so you never know.

[db85usa]

I'm not really on one side of the fence or the other.
They said it wasnt an origin, which could mean an older established Superman,
or it could mean a Superman that is younger and has just started out.
There is not enough info to make a guess one way or the other.

We know he's established. It could mean an older Superman but if they are taking a page out of John Byrne, then no. I'm perplexed by the idea of anyone over 40 playing Superman. That is insane. And now there's a comparison of Supes to Iron-Man and then the new Robin Hood -- wtf?

[That-Guy]

This thread has taken a turn for the worst. It's gone from models with no acting history, to Cavill, formula one drivers, and now 42 year old Eric Bana. And then goes in a merry-go-round and keeps getting worse.

Are you serious? No wonder barely anyone is posting in this. It's filled with nothing but Cavill fans who keep collapsing the entire thread and others who persist to post unrealistic suggestions. This thread has unofficial written all over it. A mod should seriously consider closing the thread until the actual "Official Superman Casting" begins.

There's nothing "official" about this thread other than the word happens to be in the title.

I think you need to take a valium, dude.

[Frodo]

This is entirely different than the point I was trying to make. If you cast someone as Superman at (geez age 42) and you're doing a planned trilogy and you don't film all 3 at once, what, he is going to be close to 50 by the time the trilogy is done? A 50 year old Supergrandpa in a suit? That's my point. They did it right with Reeve being 26 at the time.

Well, regardless of what they did with Reeve, the point that I was making was that casting a 26 year old isn't the only way to do it. As far as 3 films goes we don't even know if this will be a trilogy. If we can take anything from Nolan and crew history with the Batman films we know that they work on one story at a time and don't think in terms of a trilogy. We don't even know how old Superman will be in the story. We do know that Superman is established already .

A 42 is pushing it, but if Nolan and crew pick a guy who is 40 or 42 to play Superman I personally won't have a problem because it clearly isn't going to be an origin story. I can see why there would be those who'd be against it, but for me, it depends on the age of the character in the film. If Superman is suppose to be 35 in the film, then having someone who's 40 wouldn't be bad.

[That-Guy]

We know he's established. It could mean an older Superman but if they are taking a page out of John Byrne, then no. I'm perplexed by the idea of anyone over 40 playing Superman. That is insane. And now there's a comparison of Supes to Iron-Man and then the new Robin Hood -- wtf?

I'm beginning to think that you sir, are the reason fewer and fewer people are posting in this thread. Some of us are trying to have a discussion, while you appear to be just ranting and dismissing everyone else's ideas.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Superman is perpetually, what, 28, 29 in the comics? Get someone who looks like that, or at least similar, I guess.

[That-Guy]

Well, regardless of what they did with Reeve, the point that I was making was that casting a 26 year old isn't the only way to do it. As far as 3 films goes we don't even know if this will be a trilogy. If we can take anything from Nolan and crew history with the Batman films we know that they work on one story at a time and don't think in terms of a trilogy. We don't even know how old Superman will be in the story. We do know that Superman is established already .

A 42 is pushing it, but if Nolan and crew pick a guy who is 40 or 42 to play Superman I personally won't have a problem because it clearly isn't going to be an origin story. I can see why there would be those who'd be against it, but for me, it depends on the age of the character in the film. If Superman is suppose to be 35 in the film, then having someone who's 40 wouldn't be bad.

That's how I see it too. Ideally, we'd all want someone younger to stay on the safe side, but if an older actor walked in, did the best Superman screen test anyone's ever seen and looked the part, then it could be fine. Particularly if they are going for a more established Superman. Here's another example (that I'm sure db85usa won't get, but who cares), Daniel Craig was in his late 30s when cast as Bond, and that was an origin film of sorts. So if something like that could work, I don't see why a slightly older actor couldn't work as Superman if it fits the script.

[db85usa]

I'm beginning to think that you sir, are the reason fewer and fewer people are posting in this thread. Some of us are trying to have a discussion, while you appear to be just ranting and dismissing everyone else's ideas.

Actually if you look at, what, the last 10-15 pages? You'll see nothing but Cavill posts, Cavill avatars, Cavill everything. Ever taken into account that maybe people don't want to go over that again? It's been 6 or 7 years now.

The thread should definitely be closed until official casting begins. Because right now, what's the real point? There is no casting call or discussion or rumors going on. Nothing.

[That-Guy]

Actually if you look at, what, the last 10-15 pages? You'll see nothing but Cavill posts, Cavill avatars, Cavill everything. Ever taken into account that maybe people don't want to go over that again? It's been 6 or 7 years now.

The thread should definitely be closed until official casting begins. Because right now, what's the real point? There is no casting call or discussion or rumors going on. Nothing.

I've seen two Cavill avatars, and a few pictures put up, but no more than other actors. Perhaps in the last 10-15 pages there have been more Cavill pics than usual, but there were pages and pages of (the same) Walsh pictures and pictures of other actors like Cudmore who are continuously brought up.

We get it. You don't want Cavill for the role. That's fine. But a few of us, regardless of our views on him, have also been discussing other actors. I even said Walsh should screentest, because I'm trying to be open minded.

At the end of all of this, one actor will be cast. Some of us will be happy, others will be pissed, and probably the most will be unsure. Up until that point, people are going to support who they like, whether you want them to or not.

[NotFadeAway]

I would still like to throw out Paul Johannson's name for Jor-El, if Jor-El is even to appear in the next film.

[db85usa]

All this is, is a huge argument thread for people to support who they want while there's no announcement, no official wording on whether or not Routh will be coming back, what the conditions of the reboot are there's no official anything or rumors surfacing around. There's nothing. This is just continuous arguing back and forth on who the fans think should be cast as Supes or screentested. The Cavill supporters and non-supporters continually instigate arguments that just carry on forever. It's not going to stop until either A.) There's an official announcement on who's cast and he's not Cavill or B.) An open casting call begins and Cavill fans rush to vouch for Cavill to get the part. This is like the Gaza Strip of SHH!

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Daniel Craig was in his late 30s when cast as Bond, and that was an origin film of sorts.
Different characters, though. It must take many years of training, studying, and who knows what else to become a double 0. Clark becomes Superman just when he feels the time is ready.

[That-Guy]

Different characters, though. It must take many years of training, studying, and who knows what else to become a double 0. Clark becomes Superman just when he feels the time is ready.

That's true, but remember, this isn't an origin story.

[batman44]

If this thread annoys you then simply avoid it.

[db85usa]

That's true, but remember, this isn't an origin story.

Duh we know it's not an origin. You keep referring to an origin. What does that have to do with anything? John Byrne's vision does have an origin but does not carry an influence in the new script. There will be no origin presented for this new film which means Superman is already established, we already know this. It means Goyer and the script completely assume that we the audience know who Lois, Clark, Jimmy and Perry are along with Superman

There has not been an official announcement of that. It's just rumor and speculation. There's been nothing announced of what his age will be either but people need to be a little more realistic about the role in itself. Having an actor who is 25 playing a high school senior is one thing, but having an actor who is really 35-40 pretending to be a 25 year old looking superhero without a mask is another. It's easier said than done.

[Adenjo]

If this thread annoys you then simply avoid it.

This thread does indeed annoy.. But occasionally A new name gets thrown in that adds to the excitement..

A bit like knowing a really annoying girl who occasionally gets drunk and flashes her rack... We don't like her company.. But when she's got the drink in her we want to be around :D

[db85usa]

This thread does indeed annoy.. But occasionally A new name gets thrown in that adds to the excitement..

A bit like knowing a really annoying girl who occasionally gets drunk and flashes her rack... We don't like her company.. But when she's got the drink in her we want to be around :D

Yeah, I agree. I love seeing new names float around but the Cavill stuff absolutely kills the thread. It's like a clingy girlfriend or an ex that continues to stalk you.

[dark_b]

the Hanry Cavill obsession is scary.

only one actor on this planet that is able to play and look like superman?

dont buy it

[Man of Tomorrow]

This thread has taken a turn for the worst. It's gone from models with no acting history, to Cavill, formula one drivers, and now 42 year old Eric Bana. And then goes in a merry-go-round and keeps getting worse.

Are you serious? No wonder barely anyone is posting in this. It's filled with nothing but Cavill fans who keep collapsing the entire thread and others who persist to post unrealistic suggestions. This thread has unofficial written all over it. A mod should seriously consider closing the thread until the actual "Official Superman Casting" begins.

:up: This. The sheer brainlessness of many recent posts is starting to get ridiculous. This is turning into Bluetights.


You bring new unknown actor names to the table; that's the type of posting this thread needs.

I'd rather it be left open if you and others can keep doing that.


Yeah, I agree. I love seeing new names float around but the Cavill stuff absolutely kills the thread. It's like a clingy girlfriend or an ex that continues to stalk you.


It's always by the same few people too. That's not surprising

[That-Guy]

Duh we know it's not an origin. You keep referring to an origin. What does that have to do with anything? John Byrne's vision does have an origin but does not carry an influence in the new script. There will be no origin presented for this new film which means Superman is already established, we already know this. It means Goyer and the script completely assume that we the audience know who Lois, Clark, Jimmy and Perry are along with Superman

There has not been an official announcement of that. It's just rumor and speculation. There's been nothing announced of what his age will be either but people need to be a little more realistic about the role in itself. Having an actor who is 25 playing a high school senior is one thing, but having an actor who is really 35-40 pretending to be a 25 year old looking superhero without a mask is another. It's easier said than done.

I think I'm going to keep bringing up Cavill's name until it makes your head explode.

[db85usa]

:up: This. The sheer brainlessness of many recent posts is starting to get ridiculous. This is turning into Bluetights.


You bring new unknown actor names to the table; that's the type of posting this thread needs.

I'd rather it be left open if you and others can keep doing that.





It's always by the same few people too. That's not surprising

No, it's not surprising. I'm actually doing some work by researching actors, unknown actors trying to get people's opinions/feedback on it. To make sure they have the decent physical specs, a good background. I'd like more people to do the same until an actual casting call begins or a short list is made by Warner Bros. it would definitely feed the thread more energy but sadly not many people are up to such a task. Each suggestion gets lazier and lazier followed by the Cavillians.

[db85usa]

I think I'm going to keep bringing up Cavill's name until it makes your head explode.

You've done this already to the many people that don't support Henry Cavill for the past 6 or 7 years now.

[That-Guy]

You've done this already to the many people that don't support Henry Cavill for the past 6 or 7 years now.

Actually I haven't. I only began supporting Cavill after I started watching The Tudors, which was about 2 years ago. Get your facts straight before you start flinging accusations.

[shieldshero]

Just because somebody is showing support for Cavill doesn’t stop anyone throwing a new name into the mix, when they do come up with a new name, discussion will turn to that, in the mean time why not lighten up? Spend some time researching a new potential instead of freaking out about somebody else’s favourite casting choice.

While I’m posting my annual statement. imo Walsh has an ok look but poor acting skills, zero charisma and a fairly camp sounding voice, there’s a reason he’s not exactly making waves in the world of show business, he gets by on looks like a lot of good looking but mediocre actors. . .

I think people keep going on about Routh and Cavill, ’cos there hasn’t been that many solid alternatives suggested here. Of the suggestions it is older actors like John Hamm and Eric Bana that make more sense than the general male model looking types that have little in the way of acting ability. . .

I don’t actively support Cavill, but to think that a British director that is producing a superman movie and has a history of using British actors for American roles, including Batman himself would not at least take a look at who may be the best candidate the Uk will have to offer seems absurd. (remember they already did worldwide casting searches for Returns)
Regardless of WB’s previous requirements, What Nolan wants, Nolan will get imo. . .

just my 2 cents people. . .

[db85usa]

Actually I haven't. I only began supporting Cavill after I started watching The Tudors, which was about 2 years ago. Get your facts straight before you start flinging accusations.

2 years and 730 days later is still a long time, pal.

[db85usa]

Just because somebody is showing support for Cavill doesn’t stop anyone throwing a new name into the mix, when they do come up with a new name, discussion will turn to that, in the mean time why not lighten up? Spend some time researching a new potential instead of freaking out about somebody else’s favourite casting choice.

While I’m posting my annual statement. imo Walsh has an ok look but poor acting skills, zero charisma and a fairly camp sounding voice, there’s a reason he’s not exactly making waves in the world of show business, he gets by on looks like a lot of good looking but mediocre actors. . .

I think people keep going on about Routh and Cavill, ’cos there hasn’t been that many solid alternatives suggested here. Of the suggestions it is older actors like John Hamm and Eric Bana that make more sense than the general male model looking types that have little in the way of acting ability. . .

I don’t actively support Cavill, but to think that a British director that is producing a superman movie and has a history of using British actors for American roles, including Batman himself would not at least take a look at who may be the best candidate the Uk will have to offer seems absurd. (remember they already did worldwide casting searches for Returns)
Regardless of WB’s previous requirements, What Nolan wants, Nolan will get imo. . .

just my 2 cents people. . .

And you're from the UK. So, we obviously know in the hidden text who you support by saying you don't actively support Cavill.

[That-Guy]

Just because somebody is showing support for Cavill doesn’t stop anyone throwing a new name into the mix, when they do come up with a new name, discussion will turn to that, in the mean time why not lighten up? Spend some time researching a new potential instead of freaking out about somebody else’s favourite casting choice.

While I’m posting my annual statement. imo Walsh has an ok look but poor acting skills, zero charisma and a fairly camp sounding voice, there’s a reason he’s not exactly making waves in the world of show business, he gets by on looks like a lot of good looking but mediocre actors. . .

I think people keep going on about Routh and Cavill, ’cos there hasn’t been that many solid alternatives suggested here. Of the suggestions it is older actors like John Hamm and Eric Bana that make more sense than the general male model looking types that have little in the way of acting ability. . .

I don’t actively support Cavill, but to think that a British director that is producing a superman movie and has a history of using British actors for American roles, including Batman himself would not at least take a look at who may be the best candidate the Uk will have to offer seems absurd. (remember they already did worldwide casting searches for Returns)
Regardless of WB’s previous requirements, What Nolan wants, Nolan will get imo. . .

just my 2 cents people. . .

Great post. And I agree. Nothing is stopping anyone from throwing a new name out there. Just because a certain actor might be someone's top pick for the role doesn't mean he or she won't be open to someone new. I can only speak for myself, but I've brought up new names here (or names that haven't been brought up in a while) like Owain Yeoman and Eric Bana. I also really like Jon Hamm for the role.

I'm not sure why some people here seem to think that if Cavill happens to be your favorite choice, you're some obsessive nutjob who can't imagine anyone else in the role. That's simply ridiculous.

[shieldshero]

Actually I'd prefer a John Hamm type or at least an older actor. . . never heard Cavill do an American accent and can not abide dodgy accents in movies so. . . no I don't support Cavill, I think he has a good look for an origin movie, but if this isn't one then definitely someone who is more superMAN I guess. . .

[That-Guy]

2 years and 730 days later is still a long time, pal.

As you already pointed out, I'm not your "pal."

You should really consider seeing a shrink, if you don't already. I think you have some serious anger management issues.

And the fact that you claim to be calling actors' agents about auditioning for this is also a little creepy. I think you're taking the fans' role in this a bit too seriously.

[db85usa]

Great post. And I agree. Nothing is stopping anyone from throwing a new name out there. Just because a certain actor might be someone's top pick for the role doesn't mean he or she won't be open to someone new. I can only speak for myself, but I've brought up new names here (or names that haven't been brought up in a while) like Owain Yeoman and Eric Bana. I also really like Jon Hamm for the role.

I'm not sure why some people here seem to think that if Cavill happens to be your favorite choice, you're some obsessive nutjob who can't imagine anyone else in the role. That's simply ridiculous.

Do you only post on topics regarding Cavill and then reply to those who oppose him?

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Actually I'd prefer a John Hamm type or at least an older actor. . . never heard Cavill do an American accent and can not abide dodgy accents in movies so. . . no I don't support Cavill, I think he has a good look for an origin movie, but if this isn't one then definitely someone who is more superMAN I guess. . .

Jon Hamm is my perfect choice for Superman, he has been for a while now. I don't want him to be some dreamboat pretty that looks like he's just over 20. Like you said, I want Superman.

Hamm would be the Superman criminals would be afraid of.

[Crook]

Wow, it's like some of you have just stepped into a casting thread for the first time. Topics get recycled all the time, especially when it comes to long-running threads like these. Don't like it? Don't read it. Or better yet, ignore it and partake in a separate discussion. This is a very general thread, there's no rule for how many concurrent subjects can coexist.

Complaining isn't gonna do anyone favors.

[betamox]

Hey guys, here's someone new, how bout Jesse Guillion? He's 6'3 and 24 years old (turning 25 in June). He seems to have the look.


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http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTk4OTc3MDQ4MV5BMl5BanBnXkFyZXN1bWU@._V1._SX33 3_SY500_.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/rexbitten/JesseGulliot2.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/rexbitten/JesseGulliot.jpg

I believe this actor was who this poster was trying to mention , i had a hard time finding any photos of him to make a judgement . So i thought i'd do the guy a favor and post since i found a couple .

[db85usa]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/rexbitten/JesseGulliot2.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/rexbitten/JesseGulliot.jpg

I believe this actor was who this poster was trying to mention , i had a hard time finding any photos of him to make a judgement . So i thought i'd do the guy a favor and post since i found a couple .

I had to go back to the post you were referring to. I totally missed it being in the heat of the moment. A great find this guy is. Now we're talking. This is what the thread needs, more unknown actors. I'm going to be absent, maybe someone else can find a demo reel or clips of the actor to post here?

[Red Cherry Lips]

I wonder if casting directors ever cruise these forums for ideas?

[Lucid]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/rexbitten/JesseGulliot2.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/rexbitten/JesseGulliot.jpgI'm going to try to post something neutral that we can all agree on: it's interesting because I look at this guy and think, "Hmm, maybe he has potential," but then it hits me... far more important than the actor's actual look, what will truly shape the success of the next Superman is simply pure screen presence. Routh proved that you can look like Superman and still be wooden and lack charisma. I agree that if the new actor is as bad as Routh, this franchise will sink and who knows when it'll recover. So posting pictures of random actors (although it's the purpose of this thread, I understand) is actually useless because it gives no sense of screen presence and charisma. Whoever the new actor is that's chosen must ooze Superman charisma and dominate every scene he's in in terms of screen presence because, like it or not, Christopher Reeve is the Superman standard, and he has charisma. The new actor must, at least, equal Reeve's charisma, not just "the look."

Now to the part that not everyone will agree on, I think Henry Cavill certainly has this ability, which is why I support him. He's the only candidate I've seen so far who has what I call "the magic." That x-factor, that aura, that hopeful, glowing, altruistic presence that just radiates "Superman." It's a quality that isn't just about the math, it's not in the measurements of his facial features, it's his on-screen charisma, which can't be taught or acted. You're either born with it or you're not, and Cavill was born with it.

The point here is, whether you like Cavill or not, I think we should all be thinking screen presence first, not just who has a square jaw.

[shieldshero]

I agree with what you're saying but also think if you're setting Christopher Reeve as the benchmark then you're destined to be disappointed. . . He was a one off, and yes Routh proved that even trying to imitate any aspect of his performance just doesn't work, I'll always believe Routh could have done 100% better in an original movie with a better script distanced from the Donnerverse, but I think the only way a new superman will work on screen again is to be completely different and fresh, away from anything we have seen before. . .

I'm yet to see a really young actor suggested who has the maturity in looks that Reeve had at such a young age, this guy Jesse Guillion for example imo looks too fresh faced and super boyish, even at 24. . . I would reserve total judgment until seeing some actual acting footage though. . .

Again, the only way I see superman becoming relevant again on screen to a general audience is to present a completely different look, maybe not even a perfect looking symmetrical face, after all superman is an alien who has super powers on earth but one of his powers isn't perfect looks, technically he can look like anybody all though he has to have an intelligence and wisdom in the eyes and a regal quality though. . .

but no, I'm not suggesting they bring back Nic Cage ;) . . .

[baleheadbrasil]

the Hanry Cavill obsession is scary.

only one actor on this planet that is able to play and look like superman?

dont buy it

Scary?
It´s disgusting! :barf:

[Showtime]

How about this? How about stop putting up the same pictures of the same person over and over again no matter who it is.

[Showtime]

How about this? How about stop putting up the same pictures of the same person over and over again no matter who it is.

[Webhead2006]

bana probably would have been a better supes then hulk. i just didnt think he was right for banner in the 2003 film.

[Lucid]

How about this? How about stop putting up the same pictures of the same person over and over again no matter who it is.I agree. Different pictures of the same people!

[Lucid]

I'm actually psyched to get a glimpse the first set photos from Immortals to see a supposedly ultra-ripped Henry Cavill. And yes, I'm a heterosexual male, haha :D This will be the only time I ever write a sentence like that ;)

[ArmsHeldOut]

And you're from the UK. So, we obviously know in the hidden text who you support by saying you don't actively support Cavill.

Just because he's from the UK, you automatically assume he's a Cavill supporter? How ignorant is that? Dude. :facepalm:

[Red Cherry Lips]

This thread never ceases to be uninteresting. :oldrazz:

[Webhead2006]

it should be a real game to see what type of casting decisions and stuff they go with this time around. i do hope we can find the best guy who can act out the character and make us believe he is clark/superman. As for the look sure it is important but also i dont want to see a carbon copy of reeve look any more. So as long as the have the right features of blue eyes(natural or contacts) dark hair, and strong facial features i would be fine there.

Also i agree with posts a few pages back, we will probably be like wtf when we do get clark/supes cast. IT happens all the time. Hopefully it will be a good WTF then a bad WTF moment. And with nolan on board in his producer role, i am sure they will be looking at a certain type of folks to fill the role.

Hopefully we will know in the next few months more details on how they are going to cast, what they are looking for. When casting is going to start up. Also hopefully when about they plan to get shooting.

As for the established thing, that is the issue we dont really know what they mean by established. will it be a superman that been around for 5-10 yrs and a late 30s actor could be picked then. or does it mean maybe a superman that just been in action for a few months and just gone public or been public a few months. So then a young mid/late 20s is what they are going to go for. Its very doubtful they would go with anyone 40 yrs old for superman.

Sure maybe if said actor between 35-40 yrs old is very youthful looking like say a johnny depp then maybe. But these films tend to always cast younger. So in the event they do get to do a new film series with this cast they have a nice young cast that wont get to old looking 8-9yrs later by time 3rd film of series is out. So the prime age they will want is probably 25-30 yrs old, and if any old probably 34 at the oldest range.

[That-Guy]

Do you only post on topics regarding Cavill and then reply to those who oppose him?

Actually, the person I see bringing up Cavill in every post here is you.

[That-Guy]

Yeah... Ang Lee should have never attempted a superhero film. I'm not a big fan of his work in general, but he reached a new low for me with that film.

[GreenKToo]

I'm kinda hoping for a mid 30ish type Superman...We've had the young, just starting out Superman, why not have the older, more established Superman this time around.
And dont say we cant have that because of a trilogy. There is no guarantee we even get a sequel, let alone a trilogy.

[Timstuff]

I think people get nervous about Cavill because he's the only realistic suggestion who has widespread popularity. Everyone else is either a nobody who barely has a resume (and thusly, a fairly fringe group of supporters), or has-beens like Welling and Routh who have already played the character and have no place in a reboot. It's possible that DC will throw us a curveball, like when Reynolds got cast as Green Lantern or when Evans got cast as Captain America, but we really don't know.

What I do know is, Christian Bale was the fan favorite to play Batman for quite a while, and I was one of those fans. Nolan paid attention, and when he was cast those were happy days. Right now, the closest thing that Superman has to a Christian Bale in terms both talent and fan support is Henry Cavill. No to the degree of Bale, but still, moreso than any of the other names that have shown up over the last 2 years.

After all this time, Cavill is still the most popular suggestion (again, not counting actors who have already played the character), and I suppose if you're holding out for someone better that can be a bit scary. I'm certainly not scared, though, and I don't think that the people who are should be. Cavill is a fine actor with a lot of talent, and having seen him extensively on The Tudors I'm confident that he can do the role justice. Give the man a chance, and I think he'll give us the Man of Steel we are hoping for.

[GreenKToo]

I wouldn't be opposed to him at all, BUT, from what we have seen and heard, he probably won't get it? (again, just going by what i've heard, could be wrong)

I'm not ruling anybody in or out right now except for Routh because it's a reboot, but its possible he could get a shot at it I guess.
and Welling, because.....well, just because.

[Puckenstein]

I'm kinda hoping for a mid 30ish type Superman...We've had the young, just starting out Superman, why not have the older, more established Superman this time around.
And dont say we cant have that because of a trilogy. There is no guarantee we even get a sequel, let alone a trilogy.
Studios are in the business of making money. And when you have a character as wildly popular as Superman, not exploiting that by making as many films as possible would be like flushing money down the toilet. The only way we wouldn't get a sequel, or a trilogy, or a tetralogy, is if the first film is a failure, à la Superman Returns.

[GreenKToo]

Yes I know that. SR is the main reason for my concern over the reboots success or failure.
Even with Nolan on board it will have to have the bejeebus marketed out of it so people will know its a brand new take.
Things like just showing the \S/ symbol and saying summer 2012, or whenever, won't cut it.
Show the new guy in the suit, show the villain, show a quick shot of Supes and the villain fighting, and show the A-list cast that we all know we'll prolly get.

That said, knowing how they did the marketing for TDK gives me comfort. I hope for at least that much for the reboot.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Cavill is "the most popular choice?" I guess that totally explains why WB never re-considered him for Superman Returns and Justice League: Mortal.

Yeah...that's the reason.

[baleheadbrasil]

Cavill is "the most popular choice...yes I agree
But very popular choices hardly get the role. Fact.
He is too obvious...

[That-Guy]

Cavill is "the most popular choice?" I guess that totally explains why WB never re-considered him for Superman Returns and Justice League: Mortal.

Yeah...that's the reason.

Singer was going to cast Routh in SR regardless of how well the other candidates performed, and since he had full creative control, he had the final say.

Justice League:Mortal... I don't know what was going on there. But if you'd rather have DJ Corona or whatever the hell his name is play Superman, then by all means, voice your support.

I think what TimStuff was saying was that, among fans, Cavill seems to be the most popular choice, or at least the one that has lasted the longest. Bomer had a following like that for a while too, but his supporters seem to have dropped off a bit.

[That-Guy]

Cavill is "the most popular choice...yes I agree
But very popular choices hardly get the role. Fact.
He is too obvious...

It's interesting that someone who named herself after BALE would use this logic.

[baleheadbrasil]

Interesting why?
Bale wasn´t the most popular choice for Batman.
Where have you heard this?

[baleheadbrasil]

Interesting why?
Are you trying to say that Bale was the most popular choice for Batman Begins?
There were many other actors suggested for the role before Bale.

[Alonsovich]

Interesting why?
Bale wasn´t the most popular choice for Batman.
Where have you heard this?

Ehhhh... were you here or in BOF's boards in 2003? He was not only popular... he was getting over 90% in most polls, dude... he was THE fan choice... now if you ask if he was Nolan's first choice? No he wasn't. Wasn't Goyer's either. Those names are Hugh Dancy and Jake Gyllenhaal. But as of fan choice... back in 2003 he was exclusively the only name being mentioned between us ever since Aronofsky and Miller were developing their Year One project...

[Crook]

Cavill is "the most popular choice?" I guess that totally explains why WB never re-considered him for Superman Returns and Justice League: Mortal.

Yeah...that's the reason.
I'm pretty sure he meant in terms of fan support. I don't think any of us have any idea who the studios are really eyeing. It's almost always lists of actors.

Interesting why?
Are you trying to say that Bale was the most popular choice for Batman Begins?
There were many other actors suggested for the role before Bale.
Yes, Bale was the most popular choice for the role. Everyone on the internet practically hugged and congratulated each other the day he got cast because of it. He was by far the one fans held in high regard for the role. LONG before Batman Begins.

If you weren't browsing through the forums in 2000-2003 you wouldn't know it.

Ehhhh... were you here or in BOF's boards in 2003? He was not only popular... he was getting over 90% in most polls, dude... he was THE fan choice... now if you ask if he was Nolan's first choice? No he wasn't. Wasn't Goyer's either. Those names are Hugh Dancy and Jake Gyllenhaal. But as of fan choice... back in 2003 he was exclusively the only name being mentioned between us ever since Aronofsky and Miller were developing their Year One project...
Where did you hear Hugh was Nolan's first choice? I know Goyer mentioned Jake, but if I recall Nolan has never talked about Hugh.

[baleheadbrasil]

Ehhhh... were you here or in BOF's boards in 2003? He was not only popular... he was getting over 90% in most polls, dude... he was THE fan choice... now if you ask if he was Nolan's first choice? No he wasn't. Wasn't Goyer's either. Those names are Hugh Dancy and Jake Gyllenhaal. But as of fan choice... back in 2003 he was exclusively the only name being mentioned between us ever since Aronofsky and Miller were developing their Year One project...


Hummm no I wasn´t...
In 2003 I didn´t have a computer. :woot:
But I read in a magazine that other actors were cogitated and had screentests, but only after,Bale got the role.

I did not know Bale was the most popular among the fans...
So I´m forgiven. :hehe:

[Webhead2006]

totally i didnt really like lee's film compared to LL/norton one.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Singer asked to see the finalists from the earlier versions. Cavill was not among the ones presented even though he was McG's pick. WB nudged Singer in Routh's direction.

Again. Cavill was off WBs radar twice times over even after everyone knew he had the role under McG's incarnation. What a part about this don't people understand? After ignoring him for seven years now, Jeff Robinov is going to say, "Hey, what about that guy from Whatever Works?"

Strike that. I forgot Cavill is "the most popular choice."

"But...but...Nolan cast a Welsh as Batman!" Yes, and as we know Batman is such an American icon saying phrases like "I stand for truth, justice and the American way!" and tons of merchandising with him behind the American flag. Cut to some moron looking far and wide of pictures with Batman and Robin next to the flag. You know, "to prove me wrong!" Superman is Americana. Batman isn't.

Yeah **** what Showtime and I have heard multiple times from the inside. All WB has is footage of Cavill auditioning and screen-testing in the suit. But they didn't have fanboys posting picture after picture, manip after manip and post after post saying how "he's the most popular choice." An obsessed fanboy on a forum said so!

Guess WB didn't get that memo.

[Rodrigo90]

I would love to see Tom Berenger as Perry. That would work.

[Alonsovich]

Where did you hear Hugh was Nolan's first choice? I know Goyer mentioned Jake, but if I recall Nolan has never talked about Hugh.

Hugh's name was all over the place at the time, I remember all the trades put him as the frontrunner, Nolan's favorite. He was scheduled to screentest, and never did because of scheduling problems. But at the time he was almost locked for the role...

[Webhead2006]

isnt he the host guy of dancing with the stars?

[Rodrigo90]

No,lol.

He is a great actor,Oscar nominated and he is in Inception.

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/M_R/Oa_Oh/OctoberRoad/season1_additions/october-road-tom-berenger3.jpg

[Webhead2006]

i wouldnt mind if cavill did get the role, will he probably not. As for going older actor, i just dont really see it happening. Since we all know studios tend to like going with younger actors for films they are hoping to go into at least a 2-3 picture deal. The oldest they will probably go is 33-35.

[Crook]

I don't remember this at all. I know he was one of the very first names to show up when Nolan got on, but he pretty much faded into obscurity not long after that. I suppose in the end it doesn't matter, but I was always under the impression Bale was Nolan's first choice.

[Crook]

I don't remember this at all. I know he was one of the very first names to show up when Nolan got on, but he pretty much faded into obscurity not long after that. I suppose in the end it doesn't matter, but I was always under the impression Bale was Nolan's first choice.

[Webhead2006]

oh sorry i was mixing him up with the dancing guy. The name looked familar to his my mistake.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Singer asked to see the finalists from the earlier versions. Cavill was not among the ones presented even though he was McG's pick. WB nudged Singer in Routh's direction.

Again. Cavill was off WBs radar twice times over even after everyone knew he had the role under McG's incarnation. What a part about this don't people understand? After ignoring him for seven years now, Jeff Robinov is going to say, "Hey, what about that guy from Whatever Works?"

Strike that. I forgot Cavill is "the most popular choice."

"But...but...Nolan cast a Welsh as Batman!" Yes, and as we know Batman is such an American icon saying phrases like "I stand for truth, justice and the American way!" and tons of merchandising with him behind the American flag. Cut to some moron looking far and wide of pictures with Batman and Robin next to the flag. You know, "to prove me wrong!" Superman is Americana. Batman isn't.

Yeah **** what Showtime and I have heard multiple times from the inside. All WB has is footage of Cavill auditioning and screen-testing in the suit. But they didn't have fanboys posting picture after picture, manip after manip and post after post saying how "he's the most popular choice." An obsessed fanboy on a forum said so!

Guess WB didn't get that memo.Just thought that this should be quoted.

[That-Guy]

Singer asked to see the finalists from the earlier versions. Cavill was not among the ones presented even though he was McG's pick. WB nudged Singer in Routh's direction.

Again. Cavill was off WBs radar twice times over even after everyone knew he had the role under McG's incarnation. What a part about this don't people understand? After ignoring him for seven years now, Jeff Robinov is going to say, "Hey, what about that guy from Whatever Works?"

Strike that. I forgot Cavill is "the most popular choice."

"But...but...Nolan cast a Welsh as Batman!" Yes, and as we know Batman is such an American icon saying phrases like "I stand for truth, justice and the American way!" and tons of merchandising with him behind the American flag. Cut to some moron looking far and wide of pictures with Batman and Robin next to the flag. You know, "to prove me wrong!" Superman is Americana. Batman isn't.

Yeah **** what Showtime and I have heard multiple times from the inside. All WB has is footage of Cavill auditioning and screen-testing in the suit. But they didn't have fanboys posting picture after picture, manip after manip and post after post saying how "he's the most popular choice." An obsessed fanboy on a forum said so!

Guess WB didn't get that memo.

Just curious, how are you getting all of this inside information? I'm not disputing it, but I keep hearing you and Showtime claiming that you know what's really going on. Just curious how you apparently know so much. I was always under the impression that Singer wanted Routh more than the studio did, but I may have been mistaken.

Anyway, at this point, I'm not going to claim I know what direction the studio is going. As long as they cast a great actor (and I still believe that you need a GREAT actor to play Superman... this bizarre idea that you just need someone average to play him is ridiculous), I don't care who they pick, American, Welsh, Russian, whatever. But I do think that if they are only limiting themselves to American-born actors, they're doing themselves a disservice. Look at what happened with the Captain America casting process... they ended up test Sebastian Stan, who is Romanian (at least by birth). And he did land a part. While it wasn't Cap, it was Bucky, who would eventually become Cap if they decided to follow the comics (though I doubt this would ever happen in a movie).

[ChickenScratch]

I love this thread. people are being forwarded as "popular choices" and "fan choices" when it's pretty much just a couple people. Inflated sense of importance anyone?

[db85usa]

I don't remember this at all. I know he was one of the very first names to show up when Nolan got on, but he pretty much faded into obscurity not long after that. I suppose in the end it doesn't matter, but I was always under the impression Bale was Nolan's first choice.

Bale was his first choice it was reported several times that Nolan loved Bale and thought he had everything they were looking for from the start while Goyer and others liked him too but were somewhat on the fence (in the beginning.) Soon after that Bale was definitely Nolan's favorite and Cillian Murphy's screentest for Bats was so good too but Nolan decided that wasn't going to happen so he chose Bale instead and then ended up offering Murphy the role of Scarecrow.

[db85usa]

Yeah... Ang Lee should have never attempted a superhero film. I'm not a big fan of his work in general, but he reached a new low for me with that film.

For sure. I never understood why Ang Lee was chosen for HULK. Not a fan of his work either. I hated the split screen direction in Hulk, the ethnic music, what the hell was all that? Were they trying to do a comic book movie as if it were an actual comic or what? Either way, it didn't work for me and probably for a lot of people. Bana definitely would have made a better superhero back then or years prior. His role in Star Trek albeit small, was mesmerizing to say the least. Where he could really shine today is a main villain, I think.

[db85usa]

Not to be rude or anything but the people against Hugo Weaving (and although he might be Red Skull, uncomfirmed) the actor is very talented. He was very cool as Agent Smith, V, Elrond. His voice is memorable kind of like Christopher Walken, when you hear it, you know who it is.

Now a lot of people keep throwing Johnny Depp's name in the comic-book entertainment industry. There's this assumption that because of his versatility he would easily fit into a villainous role. This is a two way street. Others are against Weaving but support Depp left and right. If anything, both Depp and Weaving are lazy castings with the assumption that they would shine with their versatility in a villainous role with ease. It could work, it could not.

There are other actors just as talented and capable if not more talented that could represent certain characters in a very different way. However, I do think having a big name actor as versatile as Johnny Depp would be nothing but a HOLY SH$% moment for the Superman franchise. I would support him without a doubt but I'm saying, let's keep looking for some more guys too!

[GreenKToo]

Can't speak for all, just me. This would be my holy shet cast.

Superman: as of now Harmon Walsh.

Lois Lane: Rose Byrne.

Jor-el: Jim Caviezel

Lara: Catherine Zeta Jones or Sandra Bullock

Jonathan: Kurt Russell

Martha: Susan Sarandon or Meryl Streep.

Lex: Johnny Depp, day-Lewis, or Josh Brolin

Brainiac: Jason Isaacs or Hugo Weaving

Perry: Alec Baldwin or Ed Harris

Jimmy: Anton Yelchin

Morgan Edge: Ian McShane

John Corbin: Kiefer Sutherland

Dr. Emil Hamilton: Gary Sinise

[db85usa]

Can't speak for all, just me. This would be my holy shet cast.

Superman: as of now Harmon Walsh.

Lois Lane: Rose Byrne.

Jor-el: Jim Caviezel

Lara: Catherine Zeta Jones or Sandra Bullock

Jonathan: Kurt Russell

Martha: Susan Sarandon or Meryl Streep.

Lex: Johnny Depp, day-Lewis, or Josh Brolin

Brainiac: Jason Isaacs or Hugo Weaving

Perry: Alec Baldwin or Ed Harris

Jimmy: Anton Yelchin

Morgan Edge: Ian McShane

John Corbin: Kiefer Sutherland

Dr. Emil Hamilton: Gary Sinise


I would wet my pants if this were the cast. What I like about your list is you have two actors for certain roles that could work either way. Either Isaacs or Weaving would be a solid choice for Brainiac. Day-Lewis and Depp are both solid suggestions for Lex. I would choose Ed Harris over Alec Baldwin for Perry White. Harris sounds like an excellent choice! I would choose Streep over Sarandon.

Kurt Russell for Johnathan is another awesome choice. Rose Byrne for Lois, yes. Great pick. Jim Caviezel seems like a lock for most fans around here. I definitely would love to see Jesus as Jor-El! Just kidding, I love Caviezel and would die if he got cast.

Why the sudden change to Harmon Walsh though? Yeah everyone knows I support the guy. I also think a lot of others should test for the role. Yes, even Cavill, the guy I support least. Screentests would be the fairest way to judge an actor anyway.

[Alonsovich]

Bale was his first choice it was reported several times that Nolan loved Bale and thought he had everything they were looking for from the start while Goyer and others liked him too but were somewhat on the fence (in the beginning.) Soon after that Bale was definitely Nolan's favorite and Cillian Murphy's screentest for Bats was so good too but Nolan decided that wasn't going to happen so he chose Bale instead and then ended up offering Murphy the role of Scarecrow.

Not exactly... Bale was filming the Machinist movie at the time where he was in a pitiful physical shape and generated doubts even about screentesting. He pulled off to come in a decent weight into the test in the very last minute, testing in one of the Kilmer suits. That's why Dancy's name kept up coming as the frontrunner for a pair of months.

[FilmNerdJamie]

So looks like the new Spider-Man (http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8999:logan-lerman-is-the-front-runner-for-spider-man-after-all&catid=41:news&Itemid=71) has been cast. Superman should be the next one on everyone's radar.

[Timstuff]

Just curious, how are you getting all of this inside information? I'm not disputing it, but I keep hearing you and Showtime claiming that you know what's really going on. Just curious how you apparently know so much. I was always under the impression that Singer wanted Routh more than the studio did, but I may have been mistaken.

Anyway, at this point, I'm not going to claim I know what direction the studio is going. As long as they cast a great actor (and I still believe that you need a GREAT actor to play Superman... this bizarre idea that you just need someone average to play him is ridiculous), I don't care who they pick, American, Welsh, Russian, whatever. But I do think that if they are only limiting themselves to American-born actors, they're doing themselves a disservice. Look at what happened with the Captain America casting process... they ended up test Sebastian Stan, who is Romanian (at least by birth). And he did land a part. While it wasn't Cap, it was Bucky, who would eventually become Cap if they decided to follow the comics (though I doubt this would ever happen in a movie).

Also, Superman may be a part of Americana, but he is not exclusive to americans, especially in how he is admired. Superman means a lot to people all over the world, not just Americans. The phrase "And the American Way" was added to the intro of the live action TV series due to the red scare. If you look back to the original Max Fleischer cartoons, the phrase was just "Truth and Justice." Unlike Captain America, Superman was not designed to be a propaganda tool, and was retrofitted as one during the war like most comic heroes were. The war was something that affected everyone, and kids wanted to see their heroes do something about it in the pages of their comic books.

That was then though, and this is now. Superman is an international icon, and has been for decades. To say "only an American can play him" is pretty absurd. Here's a fun little fact: Liam Neeson is going to play Abraham Lincoln in a film directed by Spielberg. He was not born in the US, so should he be disqualified from playing one of our greatest presidents? I would say heck no, because he's a brilliant actor and I think he could bring the role to life like no other actor before him.

Captain America has "America" in his name, so I think that it's fair to say that an American ought to play him. With Superman though, he's much bigger than a single country. He looks out for the whole planet, and I don't think the geography of the actor's birthplace should be a pre-requisite for who can play him. Clark Kent wasn't born in America, after all!

[Man of Tomorrow]

So looks like the new Spider-Man (http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8999:logan-lerman-is-the-front-runner-for-spider-man-after-all&catid=41:news&Itemid=71) has been cast. Superman should be the next one on everyone's radar.

I was the first to suggest his name in the Spider-man reboot forum.. and start the movement to support him for the role

I'm shocked.


Casting threads do work. :dry:

[Alonsovich]

So looks like the new Spider-Man (http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8999:logan-lerman-is-the-front-runner-for-spider-man-after-all&catid=41:news&Itemid=71) has been cast. Superman should be the next one on everyone's radar.

Hmmmm... Porter?

[That person]

So looks like the new Spider-Man (http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8999:logan-lerman-is-the-front-runner-for-spider-man-after-all&catid=41:news&Itemid=71) has been cast. Superman should be the next one on everyone's radar.

Why is it that I always get big Marvel casting news on the Superman forum?

[arrivals]

I would be quite pleased if it was Scott Porter, at least he can act.

[B]

I was the first to suggest his name in the Spider-man reboot forum.. and start the movement to support him for the role

I'm shocked.

Casting threads do work. :dry:

Your a badass.

Sony should thank you seeing as you where the FIRST person because I'm sure it was your comment that helped cast him, of this I am positive.

[Alonsovich]

Your a badass.

Sony should thank you seeing as you where the FIRST person because I'm sure it was your comment that helped cast him, of this I am positive.

:D:D:bow::bow:

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Your a badass.

Sony should thank you seeing as you where the FIRST person because I'm sure it was your comment that helped cast him, of this I am positive.

Really? I saw people suggest him off and on at various websites for a while :confused:

I don't think one person here was the first. Just an obvious name to throw in the mix, that many thought of upon news of starting over...






















Of course you were being facetious anyways :doh:

:yay:

[Man of Tomorrow]

Damn straight.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=333282

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=17932328&postcount=26

And despite your sarcasm, the studio does check the online sites and boards, hence Sony's damage control at a lot of leaks that surfaced regarding this project.


The online support definitely made an impact. The fan response to Logan as Spider-man was even addressed by Logan himself in interviews.

Logan's name as #1 in the casting poll by leaps and bounds is definitely noticeable.. and this is the 'Spider-man Hype.'

So promoting him on there wasn't in vain..


Casting threads can be useful if used properly. Next, we need to get Harmon Walsh on the screentest list for Superman.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Really? I saw people suggest him off and on at various websites for a while :confused:


We started a movement for him on here pretty much immediately after the reboot was announced. I know that casting thread was created as soon as the news broke.


I'm glad he's the frontrunner. Most of the other suggestions were just ridiculously bad.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

We started a movement for him on here pretty much immediately after the reboot was announced. I know that casting thread was created as soon as the news broke.


I'm glad he's the frontrunner. Most of the other suggestions were just ridiculously bad.

Then too bad you didn't start an Andrew Garfield movement. ;)

He was the best choice imo.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Then too bad you didn't start an Andrew Garfield movement. ;)

He was the best choice imo.


You're right. He would have been great as well.


Maybe he could work as the next Jimmy Olsen ...who knows

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/352/pic13r.jpg

[betamox]

So looks like the new Spider-Man (http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8999:logan-lerman-is-the-front-runner-for-spider-man-after-all&catid=41:news&Itemid=71) has been cast. Superman should be the next one on everyone's radar.

Whuh ? Hmmm...Ummm

let me try again

Who ? What ? When ?

[\S/JcDc\S/]

You're right. He would have been great as well.


Maybe he could work as the next Jimmy Olsen ...who knows

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/352/pic13r.jpg

Upon hearing the news he immediately went to the Jimmy Olsen category for me. Funny, Spidey is just a super-powered Olsen. Never realized it before ;)

[GreenKToo]

He looks like a good fit for wally west to me.

[GreenKToo]

Thanx..
As for Walsh, well, I support him over all the other choices given so far, I have since his name first came out.
It's just that I dont think he's as likely to get it as anybody else is at this point, so i'm not very vocal about it (Yet).
Heck, i've even thrown other names into the hat, but so far I still like Walsh the best

Two more picks for Lara. Diane Lane and Teri Hatcher.

[Slugster]

Im sure someone will look good as superman and be able to act and Im sure Nolan and friends will look far and wide to find him. But... IT PROLLY WONT BE HENRY CAVILL! I personally dont think he would be that good of a choice.
But I think someone other than anyone named here will be the choice. I just hope he looks good, and built well and acts good or learns to.
I catch myself looking at comercals and other TV show actors and thinking He might do good as Superman. or even in mags.
There are a lot of choices. Cavill is just one. He would be a good James Bond, Not Superman.

[Webhead2006]

for me i like both hugo and depp's work. They are both very talented, and if we get to see them in comic book films that is totally cool and i would love to see what they could bring to the characters they would play.

[Webhead2006]

cant wait to we have some actual names coming from studio/trades testing. So we can see what type of direction in looks/actors they are going to go for superman/clark.

[Alien Anal]

So i think im gonna go with Tom Hardyhttp://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg18/AlienAnal/67_tomHardy_0122.jpg
Sure he doesnt have that typical superman look but i dont really think christopher reeves
looked that much like superman (imo)

I would like to see superman get away from the overlly handsom american latino look.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg18/AlienAnal/tom_hardy-bronson.jpg

[The ?ion]

Tom Hardy? I have never heard of him, but in that first picture, he looks like Shia LaBeouf...twenty-eight years from now. Surrrrrrrrrvey SAYS? DING!! No.

[Alien Anal]

you do have a point.

[The ?ion]

Don't get me wrong though. I agree, it perhaps would not do too much harm to have a Superman that isn't always square jawed or with a cleft chin. I don't know about not handsome though. They will never cast an ugly or even an average person, in the role of a super hero, unless the hero is an alien/monster or old. Heck, just look at the casting of Wolverine. Rather than short, incredibly hairy and gruff looking, we got six foot, relatively clean and handsome. Society won't permit for otherwise.

[gillberg2k1]

I'm still stuck on Jim Caviezel and Eion Bailey.

Obviously, Jim still looks good for his age, but sequels could certainly be a problem down the line.

Bailey is, in my opinion, perfect at 33. He also tested for Batman, as I know that Nolan was a fan of his work. In my opinion, his look is spot on and he's yet to have any breakthrough film roles (he had a very minor role in Fight Club), and he's still a relatively unknown actor. I have yet to see anyone with a better look, and this includes all of the underwear models that I've seen posted in this thread.

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/754/754565/eion-bailey-villa1_1168496614-000.jpg

[The ?ion]

Eion Bailey. I do not believe I have seen any of his work, but he certainly looks the part.

[Webhead2006]

eion would be a nice pick, i would love to hear if he tests, and 33 isnt a bad age if they are going for a 28-30yr old supes.

[gillberg2k1]

Jim Caviezel seems like a lock for most fans around here. I definitely would love to see Jesus as Jor-El! Just kidding, I love Caviezel and would die if he got cast.

With the history Caviezel had during the pre-production of Returns, I think it's about time the man got what he practically begged for, even if it is as Jor-El and not Kal-El.

Little known fact, but I think it's safe to bring it up since all these years have past now. As many of you remember, the buzz at the time (starting in 2002 with Ratner, then all the way through 2004 when Singer jumped on board) was that he was practically signed, sealed, and delivered. Ever wonder why all those rumors were so heated at the time?

Caviezel was such a favorite of certain executives at WB, that he began training for the part. He started preparing immediately, and was extremely dedicated to living up to the fans expectations and hopes from the character standpoint. His respect for Reeve was immense because of how much he loved the Donner films, and he really wanted to do the role justice. If you do a Google search, you can find a few old interviews where he kinda hints at what was going on. I believe he says something to the effect of how much of an honor it would be and how he's always sought out these iconic roles. Essentially, he was ready to rock n roll. But, stuff like this happens all the time. It's just a shame it didn't work out with a guy who is clearly such a gifted actor.

Ultimately, the studio didn't get their way, and we got Brandon Routh, who was younger and obviously lesser known. Jim had also just come off of massive exposure and media attention from The Passion of The Christ, which was a turn off for Singer.

As much as some people like Singer's decision to go with Routh, I think the WB may have been right on this one. Jim is an excellent actor, he had the look, and was extremely passionate about the role.

In my opinion, it'd be a shame if he weren't involved in this project in some capacity.

[Alonsovich]

I'm still stuck on Jim Caviezel and Eion Bailey.

Obviously, Jim still looks good for his age, but sequels could certainly be a problem down the line.

Bailey is, in my opinion, perfect at 33. He also tested for Batman, as I know that Nolan was a fan of his work. In my opinion, his look is spot on and he's yet to have any breakthrough film roles (he had a very minor role in Fight Club), and he's still a relatively unknown actor. I have yet to see anyone with a better look, and this includes all of the underwear models that I've seen posted in this thread.

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/754/754565/eion-bailey-villa1_1168496614-000.jpg

:up::up::up::up::up:

[ArmsHeldOut]

I'm still stuck on Jim Caviezel and Eion Bailey.

Obviously, Jim still looks good for his age, but sequels could certainly be a problem down the line.

Bailey is, in my opinion, perfect at 33. He also tested for Batman, as I know that Nolan was a fan of his work. In my opinion, his look is spot on and he's yet to have any breakthrough film roles (he had a very minor role in Fight Club), and he's still a relatively unknown actor. I have yet to see anyone with a better look, and this includes all of the underwear models that I've seen posted in this thread.

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/754/754565/eion-bailey-villa1_1168496614-000.jpg

Bailey definitely looks the part, but people generally expect Superman to be well over 5 '10" or 5"11". I'm sure he can be made to look taller though.

[GreenKToo]

So looks like the new Spider-Man (http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8999:logan-lerman-is-the-front-runner-for-spider-man-after-all&catid=41:news&Itemid=71) has been cast. Superman should be the next one on everyone's radar.
I'm curious. If you had to guess, what age range do you think they'll want for Supes?
When we find that out, it's gonna rule lots of actors either in or out.

[dark_b]

Damn straight.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=333282

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=17932328&postcount=26

And despite your sarcasm, the studio does check the online sites and boards, hence Sony's damage control at a lot of leaks that surfaced regarding this project.


The online support definitely made an impact. The fan response to Logan as Spider-man was even addressed by Logan himself in interviews.

Logan's name as #1 in the casting poll by leaps and bounds is definitely noticeable.. and this is the 'Spider-man Hype.'

So promoting him on there wasn't in vain..


Casting threads can be useful if used properly. Next, we need to get Harmon Walsh on the screentest list for Superman.
http://i41.tinypic.com/mb38kh.gif

[B]

Right Click > Save :up: ^^

[baleheadbrasil]

There are a lot of choices. Cavill is just one. He would be a good James Bond, Not Superman.

He could be a good James Bond...
But I´m happy with Daniel Craig and in a next future,I want my Bale as Bond! :woot:

[GreenKToo]

http://i41.tinypic.com/mb38kh.gif


My fellow hypesters. We, the brave few, are about to embarq on a civil war of sorts.
Be brave, be true to your casting picks. Take no prisoners and damn the fracking torpedoes.

Huge battles are about to occur between the Cavill camp, Walsh camp, Routh camp, and all the other camps.
Many will fight, few will survive. Tis true that many will also face banishment by the High council of the Mods as well for atrocities committed against their fellow hypesters.

Have courage in this deep breath before the plunge.

At the end, when the dust clears, only one pick will be left standing....good luck to us all and Gods bless us everyone.
(Now, where did I put that dang popcorn.):word::oldrazz:

[Alonsovich]

My fellow hypesters. We, the brave few, are about to embarq on a civil war of sorts.
Be brave, be true to your casting picks. Take no prisoners and damn the fracking torpedoes.

Huge battles are about to occur between the Cavill camp, Walsh camp, Routh camp, and all the other camps.
Many will fight, few will survive. Tis true that many will also face banishment by the High council of the Mods as well for atrocities committed against their fellow hypesters.

Have courage in this deep breath before the plunge.

At the end, when the dust clears, only one pick will be left standing....good luck to us all and Gods bless us everyone.
(Now, where did I put that dang popcorn.):word::oldrazz:

And I fear this Casting War II is going to be like WWII was to WWI... with the end casting being like Hiroshima and Nagasaki... :o

[Puckenstein]

I'm still stuck on Jim Caviezel and Eion Bailey.

Obviously, Jim still looks good for his age, but sequels could certainly be a problem down the line.

Bailey is, in my opinion, perfect at 33. He also tested for Batman, as I know that Nolan was a fan of his work. In my opinion, his look is spot on and he's yet to have any breakthrough film roles (he had a very minor role in Fight Club), and he's still a relatively unknown actor. I have yet to see anyone with a better look, and this includes all of the underwear models that I've seen posted in this thread.

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/754/754565/eion-bailey-villa1_1168496614-000.jpg

Do we have a recent photo of Bailey? That Pancho Villa shot is nearly a decade old.

[Alonsovich]

Do we have a recent photo of Bailey? That Pancho Villa shot is nearly a decade old.

This (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ne5Lb2SiFHg/SjFTzne-kXI/AAAAAAAAhe0/0QTWaxbT9WY/s1600-h/eion+cavern.jpg) is from 2009...:o

[Dude101]

I haven't posted in a long time. I really wish Routh could return cause I feel bad for the guy. Hes not coming back tho. So my choice now is Harmon Walsh. I just feel he has "IT".

[gillberg2k1]

This (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ne5Lb2SiFHg/SjFTzne-kXI/AAAAAAAAhe0/0QTWaxbT9WY/s1600-h/eion+cavern.jpg) is from 2009...:o

:up:

[GreenKToo]

And I fear this Casting War II is going to be like WWII was to WWI... with the end casting being like Hiroshima and Nagasaki... :o
Lol, oh yeah. it's gonna be real ugly.

[NotFadeAway]

At 33, Eion Bailey might be a bit too old, but I was big on him back in the middle of the decade and I wouldn't mind seeing him get a screentest.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Since the last casting wars took place, a good bit of time has passed. People who were still around their mid 30's are now in the over 40 club and I think it's time they be eliminated as possibilities.

Say your farewell's to:

ACTOR: BORN:

Brad Pitt- December 18, 1963

Matthew Fox- July 14, 1966

Henry Ian April 17, 1967
Cusick-

Eric Bana- August 9, 1968

Jim Caviezel- September 26, 1968

Jude Law- December 29, 1972
(for justice)



Old fan favs still young enough from past casting war:

Josh Hartnett- July 21, 1978

Eion Bailey- born 8 June 1976
(remember the "Bailey boosters"? :) )

Henry Cavill- born 5 May 1983

Daniel Cudmore- (born January 20, 1981

(perfect age imo, but
acting is in question)

Matthew Bomer- October 11, 1977
(please no...)

Orlando Bloom- January 13, 1977
(Granted he was mostly talked about for a role likely as villain in SR sequel)

Jake Gyllenhaal- December 19, 1980
(no thanks)

I may add more to this as memories of the ole' days pop in my head :D

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Oh ya, Hayden Christensen is still young enough as well.

(quick photobucket search...)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l121/PotterWoodDiggory/Hayden%20Christensen/182.jpg

Eh some SW fans hate on him but I thought he was great in SG as well as LAAH.

[Webhead2006]

i to would mind him for jorel.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

AND look with Hayden no CGI required, he can fly already :eek:

http://i39.tinypic.com/23salq1.jpg



:D

[dark_b]

get out
http://i43.tinypic.com/143kdia.jpg

[baleheadbrasil]

Since the last casting wars took place, a good bit of time has passed. People who were still around their mid 30's are now in the over 40 club and I think it's time they be eliminated as possibilities.

Say your farewell's to:

ACTOR: BORN:

Brad Pitt- December 18, 1963

Matthew Fox- July 14, 1966

Henry Ian April 17, 1967
Cusick-

Eric Bana- August 9, 1968

Jim Caviezel- September 26, 1968

Jude Law- December 29, 1972
(for justice)



Old fan favs still young enough from past casting war:

Josh Hartnett- July 21, 1978

Eion Bailey- born 8 June 1976
(remember the "Bailey boosters"? :) )

Henry Cavill- born 5 May 1983

Daniel Cudmore- (born January 20, 1981

(perfect age imo, but
acting is in question)

Matthew Bomer- October 11, 1977
(please no...)

Orlando Bloom- January 13, 1977
(Granted he was mostly talked about for a role likely as villain in SR sequel)

Jake Gyllenhaal- December 19, 1980
(no thanks)

I may add more to this as memories of the ole' days pop in my head :D

Summarizing:Cudmore is the best choice :hehe: in age terms of course
Cavill is the newest of all...:wow:
Summarizing:Cavill is very young for the role. :woot:
I knew it. :funny:

[ArmsHeldOut]

This (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ne5Lb2SiFHg/SjFTzne-kXI/AAAAAAAAhe0/0QTWaxbT9WY/s1600-h/eion+cavern.jpg) is from 2009...:o

Here's a good film reel featuring Eion Bailey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycqp727dVyg

Right now, he's my top pick for the role of Superman.

[GreenKToo]

Walsh or Bailey would make me happy. Both scream Superman to me, and that's what I want.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Oh ya, Hayden Christensen is still young enough as well.

(quick photobucket search...)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l121/PotterWoodDiggory/Hayden%20Christensen/182.jpg

Eh some SW fans hate on him but I thought he was great in SG as well as LAAH.He would be terrible in the role. He's been terrible is every special effects feature that I've seen him in.

He was terrible in the Star Wars movies and he was terrible in Jumper. I liked Shattered Glass and he did well there but he is only okay at playing whiney little punks, not action heros.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

He would be terrible in the role. He's been terrible is every special effects feature that I've seen him in.

He was terrible in the Star Wars movies and he was terrible in Jumper. I liked Shattered Glass and he did well there but he is only okay at playing whiney little punks, not action heros.


Who would have been great in Jumper?? :eek:

Anyways, you are of the popular internet opinion. I know I'm in the minority on this one and expect to be flogged for thinking it could work.

Hear me out though, comparatively speaking... I think he'd have a similar dynamic for a modern[Superman storyline, as Chris Pine did portraying Cap. Kirk.

I'm not saying to make Clark a wise-ass, but it would be cool if he came to the planet with a bit of confidence. You can still give him glasses but if a story is up for grabs and Lois says "I've got this one Smallville" he'd say "Not if I get there first..." and of course he'd smile cause he knows if he wants he can super speed/fly there :)

I want to see Clark good at his job.

I know you have to tread softly in how much you modernize, cause you don't want to turn him into Peter Parker... But a different edge would invest the audience into his character more.

JMHO.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

dbl post

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Btw what about the other Chris from ST? Hemsworth (ya ya Thor blah blah). How do you think he would work out?

http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/9357/superman1-cast-superman.jpg

[GreenKToo]

Isn't he gonna be THOR?

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Isn't he gonna be THOR?


I edited that in a few minutes before your post, but some reason it made it a separate post instead of an edit :confused:

I figured people would bring that up, just asking if his look would work.

I wonder if in a modern film people would accept someone not as "Reeve'esque" is all.

[Frodo]

Audiences will. If anything it may be those fanboys looking for another Reeve that won't. I think at this point, that's not very many.

[GreenKToo]

If he wasn't gonna be Thor then yeah..I'd be all for him.

[ArmsHeldOut]

I edited that in a few minutes before your post, but some reason it made it a separate post instead of an edit :confused:

I figured people would bring that up, just asking if his look would work.

I wonder if in a modern film people would accept someone not as "Reeve'esque" is all.

Sure. The actor need not look like Reeve to be a good Superman. He should, however, look like Superman in some way -- even off screen. (Welling, for example, doesn't look anything like Reeve.)

Having said that, Hemsworth isn't a good match for Supes in my opinion.

[GreenKToo]

some black hair dye and a different style for his hair would do wonders.

[That-Guy]

Also, Superman may be a part of Americana, but he is not exclusive to americans, especially in how he is admired. Superman means a lot to people all over the world, not just Americans. The phrase "And the American Way" was added to the intro of the live action TV series due to the red scare. If you look back to the original Max Fleischer cartoons, the phrase was just "Truth and Justice." Unlike Captain America, Superman was not designed to be a propaganda tool, and was retrofitted as one during the war like most comic heroes were. The war was something that affected everyone, and kids wanted to see their heroes do something about it in the pages of their comic books.

That was then though, and this is now. Superman is an international icon, and has been for decades. To say "only an American can play him" is pretty absurd. Here's a fun little fact: Liam Neeson is going to play Abraham Lincoln in a film directed by Spielberg. He was not born in the US, so should he be disqualified from playing one of our greatest presidents? I would say heck no, because he's a brilliant actor and I think he could bring the role to life like no other actor before him.

Captain America has "America" in his name, so I think that it's fair to say that an American ought to play him. With Superman though, he's much bigger than a single country. He looks out for the whole planet, and I don't think the geography of the actor's birthplace should be a pre-requisite for who can play him. Clark Kent wasn't born in America, after all!

That's an excellent point about Neeson and Lincoln. It's kind of silly that they still want to adhere to the idea that Superman is American propaganda, when that was never the original idea for the character. And honestly, you could just view "the American Way" as Supes' belief that everyone has a right to freedom and peace. While America may be the nation that pioneered the idea, it's a universal concept.

[ArmsHeldOut]

some black hair dye and a different style for his hair would do wonders.

Like I said, I think the actor chosen for the role should look the part off screen as well. It's just a nice touch -- especially for the much younger fans. I know Reeve's hair was naturally brown, but medium to darker shades of brown aren't that far away from black.

Thinking back to when I was a small child, I remember seeing Reeve and thinking, "That's Superman!" or "that's the guy who played Superman!" A new generation of kids treated to a new Superman deserve no less. My thoughts.

(Anyway, Hemworth is busy playing Thor.)

[Timstuff]

I just thought of a great name for Cavill supporters: The Cavill Cavalry! :D

[FilmNerdJamie]

As we all know, an Oscar-bait movie (that's been on and off for years now and will probably not happen) is the exact same as a $200 million franchise movie. What with all those Lincoln action-figures, Happy Meal tie-ins and what not.

Get a real argument, please.

[Lucid]

That's an excellent point about Neeson and Lincoln. It's kind of silly that they still want to adhere to the idea that Superman is American propaganda, when that was never the original idea for the character. And honestly, you could just view "the American Way" as Supes' belief that everyone has a right to freedom and peace. While America may be the nation that pioneered the idea, it's a universal concept.

I don't think America has a monopoly on freedom and peace. In fact, Scandinavia is the most progressive, peaceful, altruistic part of the world. In that case, the actor who plays Superman should be Norwegian, right? You see how silly this all is. Superman is a difficult enough character to cast to begin with. It's moronic to place arbitrary stipulations on it that make it even harder to cast. Just cast Henry Cavill and get it over with. Christ! The guy's perfect for the role. It's not rocket science.

I just thought of a great name for Cavill supporters: The Cavill Cavalry! :D

Cavilliers.

[betamox]

Here's a good film reel featuring Eion Bailey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycqp727dVyg

Right now, he's my top pick for the role of Superman.

You've probably had people say he's on the short side for Superman at 5'10
but i will say that video reel is very impressive.
And the dude did an episode of Buffy which made me like him that much more i remembered him from "The Pack"

[GreenKToo]

Good point about the Lincoln film. There is big difference between a small film like that and an event film like Superman.
Personally, I as a fan (and an American) would have no problem with a non-American actor filling the role if he's the best fit.
But apparently W.B. doesn't feel that way.

[That-Guy]

As we all know, an Oscar-bait movie (that's been on and off for years now and will probably not happen) is the exact same as a $200 million franchise movie. What with all those Lincoln action-figures, Happy Meal tie-ins and what not.

Get a real argument, please.

And what exactly would your argument be? Because shortly into Superman’s history, he was used as American propaganda, therefore any actor who plays him HAS to be an American? I guess you’ve never seen a movie where a British/Australian/etc. actor pulled off a convincing American accent.

Tell me, does having your head that far up your ass get you all of that “inside” information you keep talking about?

[batman44]

Since Josh Hartnett was supposedly in the running for Thor, I wonder if he would stilll have a problem playing Superman.

[That-Guy]

I don't think America has a monopoly on freedom and peace. In fact, Scandinavia is the most progressive, peaceful, altruistic part of the world. In that case, the actor who plays Superman should be Norwegian, right? You see how silly this all is. Superman is a difficult enough character to cast to begin with. It's moronic to place arbitrary stipulations on it that make it even harder to cast. Just cast Henry Cavill and get it over with. Christ! The guy's perfect for the role. It's not rocket science.

Sorry, wasn't trying to say America has a monopoly on freedom and peace (God knows, our country sure as hell hasn't been a model for peace for the last decade). I was just stating that Superman stands for an idea, not one particular nation. I don't know why some people (WB apparently) can't seem to grasp that concept.

I'd rather have a great actor from England, New Zealand, Scandanavia or South Africa than an American like Channing Tatum.

[FilmNerdJamie]

And what exactly would your argument be? Because shortly into Superman’s history, he was used as American propaganda, therefore any actor who plays him HAS to be an American? I guess you’ve never seen a movie where a British/Australian/etc. actor pulled off a convincing American accent.

Tell me, does having your head that far up your ass get you all of that “inside” information you keep talking about?

Actually, you would the ones with your heads up your ass. We've told you multiple times they're not going for Cavill. The evidence is right. there. Yet some of you refuse to listen. No amount of manips and "Nu-uhs!" are ever going to change that. This has absolutely nothing to do with personal opinion(s). Just stating facts.

Excuse me for not being obsessed with an actor 100% because he looks the part. As well as knowing what I'm talking about.

I realize that's a foreign concept for some of you.

[That-Guy]

Actually, you would the ones with your heads up your ass. We've told you multiple times they're not going for Cavill. The evidence is right. there. Yet some of you refuse to listen. No amount of manips and "Nu-uhs!" are ever going to change that. This has absolutely nothing to do with personal opinion(s). Just stating facts.

Excuse me for not being obsessed with an actor 100% because he looks the part. As well as knowing what I'm talking about.

I realize that's a foreign concept for some of you.

Perhaps we are. But if you look back a few pages, I tried to ask you (in a very civil manner) where you're getting all of this information. But the only (apparent) response you've given is to keep making smartass comments and treating us like a bunch of idiots.

So you'll forgive me if I'm not convinced of something just because you said it.

[gillberg2k1]

You've probably had people say he's on the short side for Superman at 5'10
but i will say that video reel is very impressive.
And the dude did an episode of Buffy which made me like him that much more i remembered him from "The Pack"

Absolutely. Eion is a solid actor, and I think that's something that a lot of these unknown, left field choices are missing. If Nolan is godfathering this project, I'm expecting an actor who can actually...act.

He is short. No doubt. But it's not something I'd be terribly concerned about. There are plenty of ways on film to create the illusion of him being taller.

My picks are Eion Bailey as Superman, with Mr. Jim Caviezel as Jor-El. I don't think it'll get much better than that, in my humble opinion.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Perhaps we are. But if you look back a few pages, I tried to ask you (in a very civil manner) where you're getting all of this information. But the only (apparent) response you've given is to keep making smartass comments and treating us like a bunch of idiots.

So you'll forgive me if I'm not convinced of something just because you said it.

You basically asked me to "prove" the info was legit. AKA "Name your sources!" That has always been a weak-sauce "defense." In fact, it was brought up 100% because you didn't like what I was saying.

I guarantee if me or Showtime had even the slightest of info leaning towards Cavill, we wouldn't be questioned.

[That-Guy]

Absolutely. Eion is a solid actor, and I think that's something that a lot of these unknown, left field choices are missing. If Nolan is godfathering this project, I'm expecting an actor who can actually...act.

He is short. No doubt. But it's not something I'd be terribly concerned about. There are plenty of ways on film to create the illusion of him being taller.

My picks are Eion Bailey as Superman, with Mr. Jim Caviezel as Jor-El. I don't think it'll get much better than that, in my humble opinion.

I remember Bailey's name getting mention way back in the day, for both Superman and Batman. I personally think he looks a little bit more like The Punisher, but probably with some more muscle he could look very convincing as Superman.

I'm not sure of his acting though, only because I've hardly seen him in anything but small parts. But from what I have seen, he seems pretty natural and real, which is always good.

[Lucid]

Sorry, wasn't trying to say America has a monopoly on freedom and peace (God knows, our country sure as hell hasn't been a model for peace for the last decade). I was just stating that Superman stands for an idea, not one particular nation. I don't know why some people (WB apparently) can't seem to grasp that concept.

I'd rather have a great actor from England, New Zealand, Scandanavia or South Africa than an American like Channing Tatum.Oh, no worries, man. Totally agree with you! I'm glad there are Cavill supporters on here like you. Keep up the good work!

Actually, you would the ones with your heads up your ass. We've told you multiple times they're not going for Cavill. The evidence is right. there. Yet some of you refuse to listen. No amount of manips and "Nu-uhs!" are ever going to change that. This has absolutely nothing to do with personal opinion(s). Just stating facts.

Excuse me for not being obsessed with an actor 100% because he looks the part. As well as knowing what I'm talking about.

I realize that's a foreign concept for some of you.Perhaps we are. But if you look back a few pages, I tried to ask you (in a very civil manner) where you're getting all of this information. But the only (apparent) response you've given is to keep making smartass comments and treating us like a bunch of idiots.

So you'll forgive me if I'm not convinced of something just because you said it.

Once again, totally agree with That-Guy. Why would WB arbitrarily exclude one of the best candidates to carry their massive, potentially lucrative, and currently fragile franchise? That's nonsensical. FilmNerdJamie, unless you're directing the movie, your word is equal to everyone else's.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Once again, totally agree with That-Guy. Why would WB arbitrarily exclude one of the best candidates to carry their massive, potentially lucrative, and currently fragile franchise? That's nonsensical. FilmNerdJamie, unless you're directing the movie, your word is equal to everyone else's.

You agree with it 100% because that's what you want to hear. Typical fanboy.

And Cavill is one of the best candidates...how? I guarantee most of you have never even watched The Tudors. You want him because he's British (and that somehow equates to be a great actor?) and mostly because he already looks the part.

Once again. Cavill was never reconsidered for Superman Returns and Justice League: Mortal. Even after everyone knew he was going to play the character in McG's version. No amount of BS "excuses" will amount to why he was passed over after that.

[That-Guy]

You basically asked me to "prove" the info was legit. AKA "Name your sources!" That has always been a weak-sauce "defense." In fact, it was brought up 100% because you didn't like what I was saying.

I guarantee if me or Showtime had even the slightest of info leaning towards Cavill, we wouldn't be questioned.

It's a bit of a conundrum. If asking someone to name their sources is weak defense, I would argue that your defense, which appears to be "there's no way I can prove anything so I'm not going to bother" is equally weak.

Regardless, I think some people here, like you, presumably, are under the impression that anyone who favors Cavill for the role refuses to acknowledge other candidates. I can't speak for anyone else, but that's not the case with me. While I think he might be the best choice (even if WB, as you say, has ZERO interest in him) that's not to say that I feel he's the ONLY choice. I don't understand why people who like one particular actor for the role are getting hammered over it.

[gillberg2k1]

I remember Bailey's name getting mention way back in the day, for both Superman and Batman. I personally think he looks a little bit more like The Punisher, but probably with some more muscle he could look very convincing as Superman.

I'm not sure of his acting though, only because I've hardly seen him in anything but small parts. But from what I have seen, he seems pretty natural and real, which is always good.

That natural and real quality you speak of is part of why I like him so much, especially for Clark. I just watched that edit reel of some of his work on youtube, and there's definitely something to it that I dig.

[That-Guy]

Lucid - thanks for the compliment. Yeah, I don't know why WB would exclude an actor - any actor who is a proven talent - just because he tried out for the part before for a different project.

Jamie - I'm not British... I don't think that just because an actor is British that makes him good. That's ridiculous. Some people might think that I guess, but that's a ridiculous notion. And I have watched every episode of The Tudors. That show was what made me support Cavill in the first place. As I said before, I wasn't sold on him beforehand, mainly because at the time of SR and JLM, he was too young. Perhaps THAT might have been the reason WB didn't want him back then?

But he's not now. So if WB gets over their apparent diehard American propaganda approach to Superman, perhaps they'll take another look at him. And like it or not, with Immortals coming out, his career IS likely on the rise.

[FilmNerdJamie]

It's a bit of a conundrum. If asking someone to name their sources is weak defense, I would argue that your defense, which appears to be "there's no way I can prove anything so I'm not going to bother" is equally weak.

Yet again you have your head up your own rear. Because you don't like the info, it's questionable. Typical fanboy.

A number of posters will remember Showtime and myself started a thread because we knew the "Nolan producing Superman" story was coming. We did this...an hour or so before it hit. I'd say that constitutes "proof." But for some, it won't because once again it's not what they want to hear.

Regardless, I think some people here, like you, presumably, are under the impression that anyone who favors Cavill for the role refuses to acknowledge other candidates. I can't speak for anyone else, but that's not the case with me. While I think he might be the best choice (even if WB, as you say, has ZERO interest in him) that's not to say that I feel he's the ONLY choice. I don't understand why people who like one particular actor for the role are getting hammered over it.

So says the dude with the Cavill as Superman avatar and questioning any nay-sayers.

[That-Guy]

It's an avatar, Jamie. I thought it was a cool manip; one of the best I've seen. And it happened to be of the actor I like most for the role. That's about as far as it goes. Does your avatar indicate that you think Jason Bateman is the greatest actor who ever lived?

I've never seen an avatar cause so much controversy here.

[FilmNerdJamie]

That makes perfect sense. He wasn't deemed too young back in 2003 when he had the role under McG. But he was too young in 2004 for Superman Returns and 2007 for Justice League: Mortal.

[Changeling]

Guys, Jamie isn't full of ****. Him and Showy know their stuff.

[FilmNerdJamie]

It's an avatar, Jamie. I thought it was a cool manip; one of the best I've seen. And it happened to be of the actor I like most for the role. That's about as far as it goes. Does your avatar indicate that you think Jason Bateman is the greatest actor who ever lived?

Wow. Just. So...so stupid.

[cronosred]

Absolutely. Eion is a solid actor, and I think that's something that a lot of these unknown, left field choices are missing. If Nolan is godfathering this project, I'm expecting an actor who can actually...act.

He is short. No doubt. But it's not something I'd be terribly concerned about. There are plenty of ways on film to create the illusion of him being taller.

My picks are Eion Bailey as Superman, with Mr. Jim Caviezel as Jor-El. I don't think it'll get much better than that, in my humble opinion.

Eion Bailey is my No.1 choice right now followed by Walsh, Caviezel would make a great Jor-El.

[Changeling]

I think all of you should just kinda calm down. Anyone is allowed to support whoever they want, no matter how realistic it is that they will be cast.

FNJ knows his ****, but you can support who ever you want

[Timstuff]

Actually, you would the ones with your heads up your ass. We've told you multiple times they're not going for Cavill. The evidence is right. there. Yet some of you refuse to listen. No amount of manips and "Nu-uhs!" are ever going to change that. This has absolutely nothing to do with personal opinion(s). Just stating facts.

Excuse me for not being obsessed with an actor 100% because he looks the part. As well as knowing what I'm talking about.

I realize that's a foreign concept for some of you.

My sources are bigger than your sources.

[That-Guy]

Wow. Just. So...so stupid.

I’ll leave you with this. Perhaps you’re not full of crap, and you do have the inside track on this film. All I can do is admit that I don’t, and I’m not going to pretend that I do. However, I’m not going to put 100% of my stock in anything that is said on these boards, because I have no idea if you, or Showtime, or anyone else has some inside information. So even if you said tomorrow that Cavill (or Bomer, Bailey or anyone else I thought was a good choice) was suddenly the frontrunner, I wouldn’t be completely convinced, and you can take that to the bank.

Of course, you probably don’t believe me, but again, that’s the nature of this sort of thing. Also, I apologize for the “head up the ass” comment. That was out of line. Despite how tense things have been on this board for the past few weeks, I really do hope we can get back to a enjoyable discussion here because well, I think we’re all pretty excited to see what happens with this film. Hopefully some news will break soon.

[db85usa]

Really have to side with Jamie on this. It is sad that the Cavill fans fail to realize that there's more out there than just Henry Cavill and that he's probably not the best candidate for the role after all these years. People come here to provide new and refreshing suggestions and they are mostly opposed by Cavill fans. Personally, I think he is an average actor and that's based off of more than 'The Tudors' alone. In the mean time, I hope to see some new suggestions on here every now and then because I don't think Cavill is the one destined for the role of Superman.

[Timstuff]

Unless Warner Bros. writes "Americans ONLY" on the casting call, I think it's fair to say anything could happen. Sure, there might be some "Uhmurrickuh REWLZ!" guy on the comittee overseeing this movie, but at the end of the day it all comes down to who Nolan and the Director want, and I doubt that Warner Bros. would veto them if the actor they wanted wasn't an American. Especially if Cavill's name gets popular amongst fans in the coming months, since as we saw with Batman Begins the fanbase did have a bit of sway in getting Christian Bale's name on the short list.

[db85usa]

Unless Warner Bros. writes "Americans ONLY" on the casting call, I think it's fair to say anything could happen. Sure, there might be some "Uhmurrickuh REWLZ!" guy on the comittee overseeing this movie, but at the end of the day it all comes down to who Nolan and the Director want, and I doubt that Warner Bros. would veto them if the actor they wanted wasn't an American. Especially if Cavill's name gets popular amongst fans in the coming months, since as we saw with Batman Begins the fanbase did have a bit of sway in getting Christian Bale's name on the short list.

Well, I do think WB is bias for the "American Only" thing but I'm completely on the fence with that topic. There are incredible actors out there from different parts of the world. However, nothing's impossible and there's a chance that the "American Only" prerequisite could change with Nolan at the helm.

[gillberg2k1]

Especially if Cavill's name gets popular amongst fans in the coming months, since as we saw with Batman Begins the fanbase did have a bit of sway in getting Christian Bale's name on the short list.

I hate to be the one to say it, as it's certainly neat to think that a fanboy community can impact a major studio tentpole franchise, but as someone who knew several people involved in the production of Begins, Bale's casting had absolutely NOTHING to do with fanboy preferences. Christian had actively taken an interest in the part since the announcement of Aronofsky's involvement with Year One and his agent felt that it would be a great role to further his career (turns out they were right), so they made their interest known.

The fact that Nolan also had interest in Christian is a complete coincidence. Many at the studio were surprised to hear of Christians online support WELL after he had already been cast. While Nolan states that Christian was his "first choice," and hell, maybe he was, there was a long period of time where there were some major potential conflicts, not to mention Bale looking absolutely awful after doing The Machinist. Trust me, when these issues came up, fanboy support did not magically cause the studio to turn a blind eye and dive in to the Bale lovin' or keep him on any sort of short list, as neat of a story as that would be.

It just so happened that things worked out, and it was an absolutely awesome moment for fans of Bale and the character.

[Timstuff]

Well then I guess it all depends on how good of an agent Cavill has. Still, I'm not going to write him off as a possibility just because there's someone at Warner Bros. who is biased against having anyone other than an American play Superman.

[C. Lee]

I think some people need to calm down in here.....

[ArmsHeldOut]

Absolutely. Eion is a solid actor, and I think that's something that a lot of these unknown, left field choices are missing. If Nolan is godfathering this project, I'm expecting an actor who can actually...act.

He is short. No doubt. But it's not something I'd be terribly concerned about. There are plenty of ways on film to create the illusion of him being taller.

My picks are Eion Bailey as Superman, with Mr. Jim Caviezel as Jor-El. I don't think it'll get much better than that, in my humble opinion.

I wouldn't call him short -- just too short for Superman, but I'm confident they can make him look taller. And he isn't exactly Michael J. Fox [Fox is 5'4" in case you wanted to know]. Some sites actually list Bailey as being 5'11" or 6'0." In my opinion, if the actor [chosen] has 95% of what it takes for the role, the rest can be easily fixed or overlooked.

Think about it. Reeve was way too skinny, and although he had the natural blue eyes, his brownish hair wasn't quite dark enough; so he underwent a strict regimen to get in shape and dyed/colored his hair black. Routh was a close match for Supes too -- but not quite! His eyes are brown. Solution? Routh used contacts. No one's perfect [for Supes] from the very start.

If#1: If they make the guy look taller on screen, it certainly doesn't lower the bar in my opinion. The issue is being addressed [unless they screw up somehow].

If#2: If someone with better acting chops and the right height comes along, that's the guy you go with. If not, Bailey's your man. (That film reel was just too good!)

::locks in vote for Bailey::

[solidsnake86]

You basically asked me to "prove" the info was legit. AKA "Name your sources!" That has always been a weak-sauce "defense." In fact, it was brought up 100% because you didn't like what I was saying.

I guarantee if me or Showtime had even the slightest of info leaning towards Cavill, we wouldn't be questioned.

I'm guessing WB has a list already of potential candidates? But how far along do you think nolan and goyer are right now in terms of the project?

I guess it would depend on the director situation and if J-Nolan is finished his batman script.

[B]

If WB where letting non-Americans audition for Superman/Clark Kent previously, so much so that they even allowed a non-American to be cast in McG's project at a time when for all they knew that project was still happening, then it is safe to assume they are not against a non-American in the role in the slightest providing he can pull off a convincing 'American-esque' performance & of course providing they look the part.

Because one thing is for sure, if a studio had absolutely no intention of allowing a non-American in the role they would waste their own time (and money) in letting non-Americans read & go through screentests for the part just to make it look like they have an obsurdly high regard for political correctness.

Batman/Bruce Wayne is just as much an American character as Superman/Clark Kent (infact moreso because the Batman/Bruce Wayne character IS American whereas Superman is technically an alien) & a vaguely known (at the time) Welsh actor was cast as Batman beating off I'm sure hundreds of American candidates..
All the evidence to me suggests WB will consider/allow anyone if they visually look the part & can pull off the role/not show their nationality.

Also in regards to the several comments regarding Henry Cavill: Cavill was overlooked for Superman Returns & whoever was supposedly directing that JLA film.. doesn't mean ****.
Different directors, different opinions.Routh auditioned for McG's Superman & McG gave the part to Cavill, being overlooked by McG didn't stop Routh getting the role when Singer took the project over.. so no being overlooked previously isn't a show of proof that Cavill isn't even going to be considered this time assuming he gets/goes for an audition..

[gillberg2k1]

I wouldn't call him short -- just too short for Superman, but I'm confident they can make him look taller. And he isn't exactly Michael J. Fox [Fox is 5'4" in case you wanted to know]. Some sites actually list Bailey as being 5'11" or 6'0." In my opinion, if the actor [chosen] has 95% of what it takes for the role, the rest can be easily fixed or overlooked.

Think about it. Reeve was way too skinny, and although he had the natural blue eyes, his brownish hair wasn't quite dark enough; so he underwent a strict regimen to get in shape and dyed/colored his hair black. Routh was a close match for Supes too -- but not quite! His eyes are brown. Solution? Routh used contacts. No one's perfect [for Supes] from the very start.

If#1: If they make the guy look taller on screen, it certainly doesn't lower the bar in my opinion. The issue is being addressed [unless they screw up somehow].

If#2: If someone with better acting chops and the right height comes along, that's the guy you go with. If not, Bailey's your man. (That film reel was just too good!)

::locks in vote for Bailey::

What can I say? We're on the exact same page. You said it all, my friend.
:up:

[\S/JcDc\S/]

But the only (apparent) response you've given is to keep making smartass comments and treating us like a bunch of idiots.


Don't waste your time. The bickering won't end until Showtime steps in, and keep in mind he is pretty tight with that particular individual.

Just ignore it.

[Dark Knight]

Lucid - thanks for the compliment. Yeah, I don't know why WB would exclude an actor - any actor who is a proven talent - just because he tried out for the part before for a different project.

Jamie - I'm not British... I don't think that just because an actor is British that makes him good. That's ridiculous. Some people might think that I guess, but that's a ridiculous notion. And I have watched every episode of The Tudors. That show was what made me support Cavill in the first place. As I said before, I wasn't sold on him beforehand, mainly because at the time of SR and JLM, he was too young. Perhaps THAT might have been the reason WB didn't want him back then?

But he's not now. So if WB gets over their apparent diehard American propaganda approach to Superman, perhaps they'll take another look at him. And like it or not, with Immortals coming out, his career IS likely on the rise.






Agreed with everything you just said.

Cavill was simply not old enough the first time around and from what I understand that is one of main reasons it cost him the role of Bond in Casino Royale. Martin Campbell almost cast him Casino and he was contention for Green Lantern as well as one of the Supes films and also auditioned for Nolans BB.

He is going to be headlining Immortals aka Dawn of War soon and the guy has charisma oozing out of him and charm. He will end up probably being in some romantic comedies and epic actioners after Immortals.

If he doesn't wind up auditioning, SCREEN testing or end up being in contention for this Nolan produced Supes reboot film, than something would be seriously wrong with some WB execs.

[Dark Knight]

Also in regards to the several comments regarding Henry Cavill: Cavill was overlooked for Superman Returns & whoever was supposedly directing that JLA film.. doesn't mean ****.
Different directors, different opinions. Routh auditioned for McG's Superman & McG gave the part to Cavill, being overlooked by McG didn't stop Routh getting the role when Singer took the project over.. so no being overlooked previously isn't a show of proof that Cavill isn't even going to be considered this time assuming he gets/goes for an audition..






Exactly!

I was just about to say the same thing.

However, if WB's execs want to be silly, narrow minded and short sighted by excluding any actor who is NOT an American to play Supes in the reboot film, than someone has issues over there.

[Timstuff]

People have jokingly called Cavill "one of the most unlucky actors in the business," because he's made it onto the short list for a lot of big roles (and in some cases was the director's favorite) but for one reason or another was not able to get the part. I think he's definitely leading man material, though, even if he hasn't gotten his big break yet.

[daywalker2007]

No,lol.

He is a great actor,Oscar nominated and he is in Inception.

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/M_R/Oa_Oh/OctoberRoad/season1_additions/october-road-tom-berenger3.jpg

Great actor, its good to see him back in a big movie. This guy's talent has been way underused in recent years.

[GreenKToo]

C'mon guys. We dont even have a fracking director yet and folks are already arguing over casting.
At least wait and see what the director ( and Nolan ) have in mind for their Superman.
For all we know it could be a 30ish something actor.

Nolan will make sure that whoever it is thats picked will be a great actor, but i'm not so sure he will pick an actor with the kinda look we're wanting or expecting. (Ledger)

The dude thats picked could end up being well known, 5'11, 190lbs, with brown hair.
Or he could look like he just steped out of the comics. We just don't know enough yet. Certainly not enough to be arguing over it.

Just relax and wait on the director announcement, THEN worry about casting.

[Alonsovich]

I wouldn't mind him in the role at all... but this Cavill/no-Cavill thing is starting to stink like the Welling stuff in the Casting War I... ZE GERMANS IST BACK!...:o

[GreenKToo]

Yeah. Me for instance, I want Walsh, but without knowing what direction they want to go that pick is just preliminary. I'm sure it will change too, probably more than once.

[Bad Superman]

Déjà vu early 2004. . . .

[Daybreak_st]

I hate to be the one to say it, as it's certainly neat to think that a fanboy community can impact a major studio tentpole franchise, but as someone who knew several people involved in the production of Begins, Bale's casting had absolutely NOTHING to do with fanboy preferences. Christian had actively taken an interest in the part since the announcement of Aronofsky's involvement with Year One and his agent felt that it would be a great role to further his career (turns out they were right), so they made their interest known.

The fact that Nolan also had interest in Christian is a complete coincidence. Many at the studio were surprised to hear of Christians online support WELL after he had already been cast. While Nolan states that Christian was his "first choice," and hell, maybe he was, there was a long period of time where there were some major potential conflicts, not to mention Bale looking absolutely awful after doing The Machinist. Trust me, when these issues came up, fanboy support did not magically cause the studio to turn a blind eye and dive in to the Bale lovin' or keep him on any sort of short list, as neat of a story as that would be.

It just so happened that things worked out, and it was an absolutely awesome moment for fans of Bale and the character.


I just have to say thank you for posting this! :woot: I can't tell you how annoying it is to see the level of delusion of some fans thinking that posting on this site will get their favorite person cast. It's refeshing to see someone who knows what their talking about and makes logical sense. So thank you for making the point very clear that while fanboy support is nice it by no means will get someone cast for a role. Maybe people can stop taking themselves so seriously on this site and stop the petty bickering :doh:

[Daybreak_st]

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[That-Guy]

Agreed with everything you just said.

Cavill was simply not old enough the first time around and from what I understand that is one of main reasons it cost him the role of Bond in Casino Royale. Martin Campbell almost cast him Casino and he was contention for Green Lantern as well as one of the Supes films and also auditioned for Nolans BB.

He is going to be headlining Immortals aka Dawn of War soon and the guy has charisma oozing out of him and charm. He will end up probably being in some romantic comedies and epic actioners after Immortals.

If he doesn't wind up auditioning, SCREEN testing or end up being in contention for this Nolan produced Supes reboot film, than something would be seriously wrong with some WB execs.

Yeah, regardless of what happens with Superman, I think Cavill will burst into the mainstream after Dawn of the Immortal War of the Gods hits (they just need to pick a title and stick with it already! :woot:). Like you said, I think that at the time he was trying out for Supes and Bond before, he WAS too young. I know I was one of the people here who didn't like him for the role until a couple years ago, regardless of the fact that McG cast him in his Superman project.

I just hope we get some director news soon. Then we'll probably get some info on who is screentesting (although if it goes anything like Captain America did, that could lead to a whole LOT of new fights here, lol).

Of some of the other names mentioned here, I like Eion Bailey and Owain Yeoman. Walsh has the look too, I think... but those caterpillar eyebrows are honestly distracting. Maybe they could think them out.

[ArmsHeldOut]

What can I say? We're on the exact same page. You said it all, my friend.
:up:

I'd seen Bailey's work in Fight Club and heard his name tossed around before, but I hadn't really considered him for the role until you mentioned him in this very thread -- so thanks.

Seems like he's also catching on with other SHH members, based on some of the replies I've been seeing here.

For those who may have missed this video the first time I posted it, here's a great film reel highlighting some of Eion Bailey's best work to date.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycqp727dVyg

[That-Guy]

Bailey seems like a good dude too... from his wikipedia page:

During a trip to Peru, Bailey had a life changing experience while witnessing a group of children travel 24 miles on foot to school. This compelled him to use his background in TV and Film for the greater good and led to the creation of Imagine This! TV, a reality TV show chronicling one week philanthropic projects for people all around the world. The network uses an open-source collaboration platform that encourages input from its viewers. Bailey is currently working on getting broadcast distribution for the TV show.

Not that you have to act any certain way offscreen to play Superman, but I suppose it helps.

[NotFadeAway]

The only thing with Bailey is that he looked 33 back in 2004-2005. But, I really Bailey as an actor and I want him to get a test, just like he should have earlier in the decade, and I would be onboard with him being cast.

It's refreshing to names like Bailey can still surface despite the love for crappy male underwear models. Thats what has kinda kept me away from this thread. Not the fiighting over guys like Cavill, atleast Cavill is a real actor. I can't stand the constant suggestion of acting talent void male models and there douchey stills being posted everywhere.

[That-Guy]

Yeah, that bugs me too... I know everyone wants new suggestions here and that's totally understandable. But I think people just want to cast this movie on looks because everyone knows how Superman is supposed to appear. I could deal with a Superman who looks slightly less like what we're used to if he can win me over with his acting chops.

[NotFadeAway]

Yeah, that bugs me too... I know everyone wants new suggestions here and that's totally understandable. But I think people just want to cast this movie on looks because everyone knows how Superman is supposed to appear. I could deal with a Superman who looks slightly less like what we're used to if he can win me over with his acting chops.

I agree 100%. I have felt this way for years myself. Thats why I always yack and yack about going more for a George Reeves/Kirk Alyn type in terms of look, it would be easier to find along with acting quality and those guys look nothing like a Chris Reeve and they did just fine. It can happen again folks, just open your mind to it.

The male model pining drives me up a wall. These guys have virtually no acting experience most likely due to being void of any and all acting talent, anf they either look like douches that you want to root against, or metrosexuals. It's disturbing.

I will bet a fully functioning kidney that a guy like Scott Porter would OWN guys like Daniel Cudmore or the newly beloved guy Harmon Walsh(LMFAO this guy screams Lacoste catalogue) in a performance as Superman.

[Showtime]

Don't waste your time. The bickering won't end until Showtime steps in, and keep in mind he is pretty tight with that particular individual.

Just ignore it.

I think C. Lee stepping in and telling people to calm down and handing out a couple warnings should have been enough. I guess we have to play good cop/bad cop.

In regards to me "being tight" with FilmNerdJamie. "That particular individual" has 5 infractions, I have given him 4 of them. Keep that in mind.

If this thread can't be civil, we can just close it and I can give some people more infractions. I don't care if there is a casting thread or not, especially at this stage. So hopefully people will learn the value of their ignore button and/or break some bread.

[That-Guy]

I agree 100%. I have felt this way for years myself. Thats why I always yack and yack about going more for a George Reeves/Kirk Alyn type in terms of look, it would be easier to find along with acting quality and those guys look nothing like a Chris Reeve and they did just fine. It can happen again folks, just open your mind to it.

The male model pining drives me up a wall. These guys have virtually no acting experience most likely due to being void of any and all acting talent, anf they either look like douches that you want to root against, or metrosexuals. It's disturbing.

I will bet a fully functioning kidney that a guy like Scott Porter would OWN guys like Daniel Cudmore or the newly beloved guy Harmon Walsh(LMFAO this guy screams Lacoste catalogue) in a performance as Superman.

I have yet to see Porter in anything, but he seems to get a lot of positive buzz on these boards. Most people seem to think he's pretty good so I'll have to check out some of his work.

LOL, the one thing that disturbs me the most about all the male models being mentioned is the fact that it tends to cause people to post a bunch of pictures of dudes in their underwear. I get that that they wanted to show that such-and-such guy has a "super" physique... but honestly, it makes this thread feel a little stange.

[GreenKToo]

Lol, porter is not exactly an oscar caliber actor himself. He would do alright tho i'm sure.

[gillberg2k1]

I'd seen Bailey's work in Fight Club and heard his name tossed around before, but I hadn't really considered him for the role until you mentioned him in this very thread -- so thanks.

Seems like he's also catching on with other SHH members, based on some of the replies I've been seeing here.

For those who may have missed this video the first time I posted it, here's a great film reel highlighting some of Eion Bailey's best work to date.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycqp727dVyg

Absolutely. Again, there's just something about him that I can't put my finger on, and I think that's why I dig him so much for the role. I couldn't help but think of Clark and Lois during that elevator banter scene from ER.

Of course, it's still very very early. For all I know, he may not even be interested in the role. But he's still the guy I feel the best about.

As far as Cavill, he's just sort of...there. I think he's got the right look for a younger, hipper Superman, which was clearly what McG was going for, so I think it would have worked at the time. I don't know that that's the route they're going with this time around, and personally, I wasn't too impressed with his work on any sort of level. Things can obviously change, though and I'm certainly not going to slam anyone who still supports him for the role.

At the end of the day, the group of actors getting so much support around here is still an impressive one, and unfortunately we'll be lucky if even two or three of them get called in for a test.

[That-Guy]

Very true. Heh, anyone remember Victor Webster? That dude from Mutant X? I stumbled onto his name today while googling Superman actor rumors. Brings back the memories of Ratner's Superman, McG's Superman, Wolfgang Peterson's Batman Vs. Superman... those were the days, lol.

[GreenKToo]

It was his name, David Boreanaz, Jude Law, Cavill, and Josh Hartnett that most fans were talking about for Supes.
And of course Welling.

[Timstuff]

McG was going for a very young look for Superman though, and Cavill was 21 and looked it back then. I didn't support him in the role back then, partially because I had Welling goggles on at the time, and also because he didn't seem like he'd be able to put the man in Superman. He's really filled out a lot though and looks very much like how I think an on screen superman ought to, and from his work I think he can carry a film. I think that what will be the make or-break moment for him could be Immortals / War of the Gods. If he really is as ripped as they say in that movie, and he's able to carry it, I think it will ease the doubt of a lot of people.

Far less talented actors have played Superman in the past, so I think he deserves at least an audition.

[That-Guy]

Something just occurred to me. I know that a few people have been supporting Cudmore for the role, but something about him kept rubbing me the wrong way. What little I've seen of his acting hasn't impressed me, but more than that, he reminded me of someone. I finally realized who it is.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/that-guy/sndn12.jpg?t=1271104978

On the other hand, if they ever remade that film, he'd be perfect as Ricky.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/that-guy/Daniel_Cudmore_2.jpg?t=1271105025

[That-Guy]

Something just occurred to me. I know that a few people have been supporting Cudmore for the role, but something about him kept rubbing me the wrong way. What little I've seen of his acting hasn't impressed me, but more than that, he reminded me of someone. I finally realized who it is.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/that-guy/sndn12.jpg?t=1271104978

On the other hand, if they ever remade that film, he'd be perfect as Ricky.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/that-guy/Daniel_Cudmore_2.jpg?t=1271105025

[Lucid]

You agree with it 100% because that's what you want to hear. Typical fanboy.

And Cavill is one of the best candidates...how? I guarantee most of you have never even watched The Tudors. You want him because he's British (and that somehow equates to be a great actor?) and mostly because he already looks the part.

Once again. Cavill was never reconsidered for Superman Returns and Justice League: Mortal. Even after everyone knew he was going to play the character in McG's version. No amount of BS "excuses" will amount to why he was passed over after that.Wow. You don't know me. I have attacked people on these boards myself, but it's always because of the substance (or lack thereof) behind their opinions. I never make wild, ignorant assumptions about someone and then attack them for it. Be more intelligent and respectful toward people, please. No matter how "in the know" you are, that doesn't give you permission to be a a**hole.


Cavill was simply not old enough the first time around and from what I understand that is one of main reasons it cost him the role of Bond in Casino Royale. Martin Campbell almost cast him Casino and he was contention for Green Lantern as well as one of the Supes films and also auditioned for Nolans BB.

He is going to be headlining Immortals aka Dawn of War soon and the guy has charisma oozing out of him and charm. He will end up probably being in some romantic comedies and epic actioners after Immortals.

If he doesn't wind up auditioning, SCREEN testing or end up being in contention for this Nolan produced Supes reboot film, than something would be seriously wrong with some WB execs.Exactly. Beautifully said. It can't get any clearer than that.

[ArmsHeldOut]

The only thing with Bailey is that he looked 33 back in 2004-2005. But, I really Bailey as an actor and I want him to get a test, just like he should have earlier in the decade, and I would be onboard with him being cast.


He actually doesn't look a whole lot older than he did 5 years ago. That said, I think his age works considering WB isn't going with an origin film.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I kinda like Eddie Cibrian.

[C. Lee]

No matter how "in the know" you are, that doesn't give you permission to be a a**hole.

Nor does it give you permission to continue name calling after 2 mods told everyone to stop it yesterday....you have an infraction now....be more civil in the future.

[Puckenstein]

Henry Cavill is made with bits of real Brit, so you know he's good.

[NotFadeAway]

Lol, porter is not exactly an oscar caliber actor himself. He would do alright tho i'm sure.

Porter has more of chance to win an oscar than the ogre looking giant Cudmore or Lacoste guy Walsh(I'm still LMFAO-ing at this.)

Not that you suggested those guys or anything friend, I'm just saying.

[db85usa]

I think some people need to calm down in here.....

Haha I agree. This is getting out of hand. Like GreenK said we should wait on a director being announced. Thing's won't really progress until then. Right now we don't know diddly-squat other than Goyer this, Nolan that. For all we know, WB could reject the script and decide to go a different route. They're in control ATM.

On the other hand, I'm not opposed for other actors being suggested (preferably unknown) in the thread which is somewhat lacking quite a bit. I might have to go back to the drawing board :wow:

[NotFadeAway]

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[NotFadeAway]

He actually doesn't look a whole lot older than he did 5 years ago. That said, I think his age works considering WB isn't going with an origin film.


Then lets get the man a test suit and an audition. He damn sure needs it, I agree whole heartedly. I'm still wrapping my head around the no origin clause, but if that is truly the case than early thirties are ok as long as the actors tend to age well.

A younger David Boreanaz would still be a perfect Superman in my mind. At 38, the man is just too old for any Superman movie, but I really think he would have been perfect.

[db85usa]

Porter has more of chance to win an oscar than the ogre looking giant Cudmore or Lacoste guy Walsh(I'm still LMFAO-ing at this.)

Not that you suggested those guys or anything friend, I'm just saying.

There is no logical reason of explanation for any fan to ever believe that an actor in a leading role of a superhero film or comic-book film will ever win an Oscar. Seriously, your posts are borderline obnoxious. You need a reality check.

[GreenKToo]

Like I said, Nolan and company could pick somebody we haven't even suggested.
Can't wait to see the fireworks around here if they do.

[Krug3r]

I would love to see Cavill be the Man of Steel. I was just watching the first episode of the fourth season of Tudors...and Cavill sure is a very fine actor and despite the beard I don't think he looks like a boy.

Either way, If Cavill is not Superman, I really hope they don't go with a complete unkown, only if he can show proof of real acting skills and not just looks.

I don't really like the choices that have been thrown here.
Routh still has the same problem, for me, that he had on SR which is his acting. He looks like he is really trying to act...it's not natural. I saw him on Chuck and it was like seeing an actor playing an actor on a spy show, everything very artificial.

I think a good actor is more believable as Superman, than an actor that looks more the part and with less acting skills.

Nolan did some great casting in Batman and some not so great. I'll wait and see who they choose as a Director. I really hope that they announce something good in San Diego.

[RachelDawes]

Like I said, Nolan and company could pick somebody we haven't even suggested.
Can't wait to see the fireworks around here if they do.

There will probably be fewer fireworks if a man unmentioned here is cast because he won't have a built-in fanbase or enemy-base. God help us if a an actor with an equal number of lovers and haters, like Cavill, is cast.

[NotFadeAway]

There is no logical reason of explanation for any fan to ever believe that an actor in a leading role of a superhero film or comic-book film will ever win an Oscar. Seriously, your posts are borderline obnoxious. You need a reality check.

Hi, I'm NotFadeAway, and being obnoxious/pretentious is kind my thing. Hopefully you can follow suit with some and begina finding this trait endearing and borderline AntiHero-esque.

I' sorry, but it helps me stay sane. Seeing talentless male models over and over makes m baffled with anger.

Just think, I've gotten better. Tell him fellow members, tell thim how far I've come from Routh bashing in every post.

[db85usa]

Hi, I'm NotFadeAway, and being obnoxious/pretentious is kind my thing. Hopefully you can follow suit with some and begina finding this trait endearing and borderline AntiHero-esque.

I' sorry, but it helps me stay sane. Seeing talentless male models over and over makes m baffled with anger.

Just think, I've gotten better. Tell him fellow members, tell thim how far I've come from Routh bashing in every post.

You do realize a great portion of actors in Hollywood either modeled at one point or came directly from a modeling agency, right? It's a good place to find unique looking people but most of the good suggestions here such as Cudmore, Hammer, Walsh, either modeled or have acting under their belt. Think of modeling as a stepping stone for greener pastures.

Just because Superman will already be established in the next film doesn't mean the actor who plays him will be.

[Asgard]

Link (http://www.imdb.com/search/name?birth_date=1978,1985&gender=male&height=1829,1931&sort=starmeter)

That's a list of actors from IMDB's database that are 25-33 years old and are 6' to 6'4.

There's 2,789 candidates for the role.

Happy searching! :)

[db85usa]

Link (http://www.imdb.com/search/name?birth_date=1978,1985&gender=male&height=1829,1931&sort=starmeter)

That's a list of actors from IMDB's database that are 25-33 years old and are 6' to 6'4.

There's 2,789 candidates for the role.

Happy searching! :)

Ahhh this makes things much easier :) unfortunately, not enough candidates IMO lol.

[Asgard]

Lol.

Increase the birth year and/or height range. I changed the birth years to 1977 - 1986 and the list went up to 3,485 names.

[Webhead2006]

i wouldnt mind myself if it was an non american who scored the role of superman. Sure it would be nice if it was an american. But as long as they are caucasian looking, and can speak in a good american accent i would be fine there. I also definately want someone who isnt reeve looking again. It would be nice for a new look to define the character for this next film generation(if we can last 2-3 films). Hopefully we will know soon enough when casting will start and more details on what type of actors/look they want to go this time.

[Changeling]

Jonathan Bennet
Owain Yeoman
Ben Barnes
Matthew Goode

Some new choices I think

[GreenKToo]

Only 3,485?? pffft, no fun there.

Side note. Is anybody else having problems with the site? like opening pages and posting?
I at first thought it was just my PC, but I then tried it from another PC and I still got the same thing...It's SLLLOOOWWWWW.

[betamox]

Only 3,485?? pffft, no fun there.

Side note. Is anybody else having problems with the site? like opening pages and posting?
I at first thought it was just my PC, but I then tried it from another PC and I still got the same thing...It's SLLLOOOWWWWW.
It just took me 6 minutes to reply to your post here so yes , what you said .:doh:

[Daybreak_st]

Yes crazy slow! Also does anyone get the message that what you typed is too short, must be at least 3 characters long or something like that? I'm getting that message when i try to post from home.