The Official Superman Casting Thread

[Webhead2006]

adenjo, nice new name thrown in with jim parrack, i never seen his work. So i cant really judge him myself fairly. He does have a decent enough look. And bulk up a bit probably would fill the superman suit nicely.

[GreenKToo]

Isn't there a brandon routh thread to pimp the shows that he is gonna be in?
I fail to see how posting links to them here contributes to this thread.

[db85usa]

Isn't there a brandon routh thread to pimp the shows that he is gonna be in?
I fail to see how posting links to them here contributes to this thread.

Well until there's an official word that we get the 100% hint that Routh won't return as Supes, people are going to keep supporting him. We can assume but even so, with a new actor, there's still going to be a following for Routh just like there will be for Cavill if he's not cast. Until then, things are pretty much open for business.

[B]

Isn't there a brandon routh thread to pimp the shows that he is gonna be in?
I fail to see how posting links to them here contributes to this thread.

Word. :up:

[dark_b]

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9176:wizardworld-anaheim-exclusive-interview-scott-porter-talks-caprica-nomads-testing-for-captain-america-a-the-flash&catid=43:exclusive-features&Itemid=73

i think he would look good as superman

[GreenKToo]

Didnt I read somewhere that WB may look at the guys that were up for cap for Superman as well?
Maybe here was where I read it, not sure.

[That-Guy]

They probably should. LOL, I remember at one point (a while ago) I thought Chris Evans might make a good Superman. I still think he'd have been a PERFECT Kyle Raynor, but I doubt that character will ever be used in a GL movie, or if he is, it won't be for a long time.

[Mostpowerful]

Isn't there a brandon routh thread to pimp the shows that he is gonna be in?
I fail to see how posting links to them here contributes to this thread.

People ALWAYS derail threads here. Nothing new...

Besides, I was just answering to his question, that's all. I know Brandon will most likely won't suit up again. I'm not that naive. He's still the best person to portray the character, imo, but I don't think WB really care about that.

Any way, carry on...

[GreenKToo]

You never know what will happen. The film may collapse before it even gets going,
or the Powers that be may decide that they want a well known actor, or maybe they may even want routh.
As for me, i'm not really gonna believe anything until we hear a director has been hired. Been burned way too many times to get sucked in too much.

[That-Guy]

If they came out with a statement that they are definitely going for a well-known actor, who would you guys support?

[GreenKToo]

depends on the age range I guess. I cant really think of any 20 something well known actors that I could see as Supes. Not off hand anyhow.
If they said mid 30ish or there about, I could see Eric Bana or Caviezel as Supes. I'd prefer Caviezel of the two.

[Webhead2006]

personally i hope porter tests/nabs flash if it does finally get off the ground this time.

[That-Guy]

Bana I like, but I have trouble seeing Caviezel as Supes, even when he was younger. I guess it was ever since someone on this board mentioned that he looked like Bob Denver and could star in a Gilligan's Island remake. I've never been able to picture him as Superman since.

[Daybreak_st]

Off topic, but i just read an interview with Scott Porter and he mentioned interests in playing Mark Grayson from the comic Invinicible. Now that would be AWESOME!

[Daybreak_st]

Great comments by Kevin Feige on Marvel's approach to casting the lead actors:

SHH: How difficult has it been casting Cap and Thor? Obviously "Iron Man" set a high watershed that would make it tougher for these other movies, so are you approaching those movies very differently with a very different tone?
Feige: Well, it's a high bar, but it's the same thought process and the same creative process that we used when casting "Iron Man," we used when casting "Thor" and as we continue to cast "Captain America" is find the best people for the part, find the best actors for the role, whether they're famous or not, whether they have marquee value or not. Everyone in "Iron Man 2" has marquee value because they were also in "Iron Man 1." But before "Iron Man 1," they didn't necessarily, and we cast them not because of any perceived box office value, but because we believed they would be the best incarnation of these characters.

[GreenKToo]

and he's right. It shouldnt matter if the guy cast as Supes is well known or not as long as he is the right person for the part.

[Red Cherry Lips]

Let's hope and pray we get that in the next film.

[That-Guy]

and he's right. It shouldnt matter if the guy cast as Supes is well known or not as long as he is the right person for the part.

Very true. I'm totally cool with an unknown as long as it's someone who can act his ass off. I remember being in full support of Routh before Superman Returns because I had hoped Singer picked someone who looked that part and had geniune talent. Unfortunately, I was let down but I'd be all for a total unknown again as long as he can command the screen.

[GreenKToo]

Right now, i'm more anxious about who directs than who gets cast as Superman.
When he is announced we'll be able to tell with the first few words out of his mouth what we'll be able to expect.
The one word I dont want to hear, re-imagining.

[That-Guy]

Yeah...


But part of me is also DREADING that day, just a little bit. While it's true that every director has to start somewhere, I'm occasionally baffled by the directors who are chosen for some of these high-profile projects. Lately it's been on Marvel's end more, but still...

I just don't want to wake up tomorrow and hear that Shawn Levy is directing Superman.

[GreenKToo]

Berlanti, Vaughn, Levy;), Blomkamp..all would be alright.

[That-Guy]

Blonkamp... that could be interesting...

[MAN O STEEL]

Mathew Vaughn is my dream director. I hope Nolan has enough sense to see a good thing & proceed with Vaughn




Steve

[Puckenstein]

I'm a fan of True Blood (I'm a vampire, what did you expect?) but I don't see Parrack as Superman. If I were to cast him as any DC character it would probably be Ted Kord (Blue Beetle).

There was an actor on the show who's name I can't remember ... he was a member of that church dedicated to killing vampires ... who MIGHT (I say might) be a reasonable choice. If I remember his name I'll go look him up and see if I still feel the same way.


We're on the same wavelength, man. I was going to say that if you're going to nominate ANY actor from True Blood, it should be Wes Brown, who plays Luke McDonald. I can't find a height for him, but he's MUCH taller than Ryan Kwanten, who plays Jason Stackhouse, who comes in at 5'10".

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b57/Puckenstein/wes-brown.png

[Kal El Vis]

We're on the same wavelength, man. I was going to say that if you're going to nominate ANY actor from True Blood, it should be Wes Brown, who plays Luke McDonald. I can't find a height for him, but he's MUCH taller than Ryan Kwanten, who plays Jason Stackhouse, who comes in at 5'10".

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b57/Puckenstein/wes-brown.png

I actually get an "Owen Wilson vibe" from that picture though:

http://mediaswirl.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/owenwilsonpic12.jpg

[Webhead2006]

hopefully so greenktoo they will find the best suited guy be it known or unknown that was some nice comments from feige on marvel movie casting.

[Anubis Raptor]

I hope the next Superman has a build like the guy on the upper right corner

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/world-team-brit-week-2010-celebrity-soccer-KUVVzx.jpg

Is it me or does that guy you're talking about looks vaguely like Brandon Routh.

[Daybreak_st]

I hope the next Superman has a build like the guy on the upper right corner

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/world-team-brit-week-2010-celebrity-soccer-KUVVzx.jpg

So this is what the thread has come to "hey look at random soccer player number 8 from the right, he's got a great look for Superman!" :whatever:

Can you even tell what his "build" is? He looks tall and like brandon routh from a distance. Anything else is guess work.

[GreenKToo]

Yeah.....he looks just like routh huh.....;)

[elgaz]

I think a lot of people have entirely missed the point of that picture lol. Everyone knows it's Routh, he's an avid soccer fan, the OP was being sarcastic

[Daybreak_st]

:doh: My bad then, didn't know it was Routh, my apologies

[GreenKToo]

Lol, its kool. I was enjoying your not knowing.:D

[Daybreak_st]

Lol, its kool. I was enjoying your not knowing.:D

http://bloggingexperiment.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/simpsons-doh.jpg

[Slugster]

It just goes goes to show you... Some people see things differently than others and then there are some people on this board, who should not have any say who plays Superman, because the choices are way off.

Now Im not talkin about you Daybreak st., because you did notice that it looked like Brandon. but some of these others, pick guys who in no way look like Supes.

[Puckenstein]

It just goes goes to show you... Some people see things differently than others and then there are some people on this board, who should not have any say who plays Superman, because the choices are way off.

Now Im not talkin about you Daybreak st., because you did notice that it looked like Brandon. but some of these others, pick guys who in no way look like Supes.

This is a fairly silly post.

First of all, I think it's safe to say that NO ONE on this board has ANY say whatsoever as to who will be cast as Superman.

And secondly, to suggest that recognizing Brandon Routh in a football photo goes hand in hand with casting ability is just downright ridiculous.

[betamox]

This is a fairly silly post.

First of all, I think it's safe to say that NO ONE on this board has ANY say whatsoever as to who will be cast as Superman.

And secondly, to suggest that recognizing Brandon Routh in a football photo goes hand in hand with casting ability is just downright ridiculous.

"snap"
Testify brutha !

[That-Guy]

So... this thread has dissolved into a discussion about how much a photo of Brandon Routh looks like Brandon Routh.

WB, give us some news. PLEASE.

[Webhead2006]

Yes it will be so nice once we are actually in testing stage/about to start casting so we might actually have some real darn names to discuss about.

[Anubis Raptor]

So... this thread has dissolved into a discussion about how much a photo of Brandon Routh looks like Brandon Routh.

WB, give us some news. PLEASE.

Nearly sig worthy.

[GreenKToo]

It will probably go from no news, to news in rapid fire mode.

[Webhead2006]

probably so man.

[That-Guy]

Nearly sig worthy.

:hehe:

[Anubis Raptor]

I can't see how Henry Cavill can play Superman. I get to much of a Frodo Baggins/Elijah Wood vibe from him.

[That-Guy]

Hmmm... never got that vibe, but to each his own, I guess.

[TheWatcher]

I was watching that new show Happy Town last night and i came to the conclusion that Geoff Stults deserves a screen test. Why?
-He's 6'3 1/2 ft tall. Perfect height for Superman.
-He looks alot like John Brynes Superman.
-He's a pretty good actor.
-He's a former Football player(Muscle)
-He has that unknown factor.
http://ihopetheyservebeerinhell.com/archives/upload/2008/07/geoffstults.jpg
My 2 cents.

[Changeling]

I get the same exact vibe!!! I never was able to put my finger on why I didnt like him, but its cuz he reminds me of a hobbit!!!!

And the Stults guy, I don't think he's good looking enough for Superman.

[betamox]

I don't know so much about the Hobbit thing either but whether or not he'd make a good Superman, the best i can say in my opinion is, I don't know that he wouldn't. But i have grown to like the guy. I saw Blood Creek the other day and i liked him in it.

[That-Guy]

I can't help it... every picture I see of Stults, it looks like the bottom of his face is too big for the top half or something. He looks like Johnny Bravo to me.

[batman44]

Now I want a Johnny Bravo movie starring Geoff Stults.

[GreenKToo]

Lol. Glad i'm not the only one that thought that about Stults. I was thinking a cross between Leno and Bravo tho.

[Sam]

I can't help it... every picture I see of Stults, it looks like the bottom of his face is too big for the top half or something. He looks like Johnny Bravo to me.

Oh, man! You're right!

Stults for Johnny Bravo NOW!!

[TheWatcher]

Don't get me wrong,I want Henry Cavill. I was just throwing out another name.

[Slugster]

This is a fairly silly post.

First of all, I think it's safe to say that NO ONE on this board has ANY say whatsoever as to who will be cast as Superman.

And secondly, to suggest that recognizing Brandon Routh in a football photo goes hand in hand with casting ability is just downright ridiculous.

It was supposed to be silly.
The point was... Some times you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't!

HA!:oldrazz:

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Now I want a Johnny Bravo movie starring Geoff Stults.

"Wanna see me comb my hair really fast?"

[cerealkiller182]

Id be interested in seeing what Shultz has to offer

[Webhead2006]

dont know his name myself, i do recall some folks wanted him to test for captain america. But he doesnt look that bad. But i cant really judge his acting since i havent seen any of it myself.

[Captain America]

I can't see how Henry Cavill can play Superman. I get to much of a Frodo Baggins/Elijah Wood vibe from him.

I get the same exact vibe!!! I never was able to put my finger on why I didnt like him, but its cuz he reminds me of a hobbit!!!!

And the Stults guy, I don't think he's good looking enough for Superman.

Well part of acting is sometimes changing your complete look and feel to fit a role..... And besides..... What's wrong with a hobbit as superman?
http://images.auctionworks.com/hi/69/68807/superman_accent_350.jpghttp://www.pingvps.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/frodo_caricature.png















:hehe:

[super-t]

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

[GreenKToo]

That's just so wrong. Funny as hell, but wrong. :awesome:

[That-Guy]

Oh, man! You're right!

Stults for Johnny Bravo NOW!!

:hehe:

[Webhead2006]

hahaha

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

"Wanna see me comb my hair really fast?"
"Why don't you jump in the ball pit, Johnny?"
"Why don't you go jump in a river?"

[Anubis Raptor]

Whats wrong with a hobbit as Superman?

http://www.fatbmx.com/uploads3/200705/wk22/baco1.jpg

From: fatbmx.com

[Captain America]

delete

[Bad Superman]

I can't see how Henry Cavill can play Superman. I get to much of a Frodo Baggins/Elijah Wood vibe from him.

You should see him in The Tudors. :up:

[cronosred]

I was watching that new show Happy Town last night and i came to the conclusion that Geoff Stults deserves a screen test. Why?
-He's 6'3 1/2 ft tall. Perfect height for Superman.
-He looks alot like John Brynes Superman.
-He's a pretty good actor.
-He's a former Football player(Muscle)
-He has that unknown factor.
http://ihopetheyservebeerinhell.com/archives/upload/2008/07/geoffstults.jpg
My 2 cents.


After just having watched Happy Town I would have to say that's not a bad suggestion.

[Captain America]

Whats wrong with a hobbit as Superman?

http://www.fatbmx.com/uploads3/200705/wk22/baco1.jpg

From: fatbmx.com

Oh my god!! It's real life hobbit! :wow: IN A SUPERMAN RETURNS OUTFIT! EVEN WORSE!

[Kal El Vis]

I have a feeling an "old" name might get a call from WB regarding the reboot.

Who, might you ask?

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/men/josh-hartnett/pictures/josh-hartnett-picture-2.jpg

Josh Hartnett.

The guy is recognizable, but not "too big" for the role, and it's been a while since he was part of a blockbuster movie.

Just a feeling I have....

[Webhead2006]

they could look at him, but wasnt it him a few yrs ago was offered the role and he declined to take it. he probably wont take it now.

[Kal El Vis]

they could look at him, but wasnt it him a few yrs ago was offered the role and he declined to take it. he probably wont take it now.

And you base that on what, exactly?

Read this part again:

The guy is recognizable, but not "too big" for the role, and it's been a while since he was part of a blockbuster movie.He has now seen what a comic book movie has done for Robert Downey Jr., Christian Bale, and soon Ryan Reynolds.

I think he might think twice this time.

[Michael Corleone]

And you base that on what, exactly?

Read this part again:

He has now seen what a comic book movie has done for Robert Downey Jr., Christian Bale, and soon Ryan Reynolds.

I think he might think twice this time.

You're making the assumption that he is looking for something to jump his career to that level. He was very vocal at the time that he did not want to play a superhero. From his career choices I honestly don't think he wants to go that route.

[Kal El Vis]

You're making the assumption that he is looking for something to jump his career to that level. He was very vocal at the time that he did not want to play a superhero. From his career choices I honestly don't think he wants to go that route.

"At the time" was 7-8 years ago. And since then, he HAS played comic book characters.

The Salesman in Sin City

http://www.beyondhollywood.com/uploads/2008/05/josh-hartnett-sin-city.jpg


And Sheriff Eben Oleson in 30 Days of Night.

http://images.nymag.com/movies/reviews/30daysofnight071029_560.jpg

So if we are to base "assumption" on anything, it should be RECENT HISTORY.

Like I said above it was a feeling, and I'm sticking to it.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Have we really gotten bored enough to bring up Josh Hartnett?

[Majik1387]

There's a difference between playing superheroes and comic characters

[Kal El Vis]

Have we really gotten bored enought to bring up Josh Hartnett?

Does THIS answer your question?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yiGdQlKNmHQ/Sbmz-X2_4bI/AAAAAAAAAqQ/F1acOWWCPHo/s400/Bored-Baby-1284.jpg

[Kal El Vis]

There's a difference between playing superheroes and comic characters

It's a fine-line.

But hey, go back to arguing over guys who you have heard WON'T be in it already. THAT doesn't get old.

No sir!

[Majik1387]

It's not a fine line at all.:huh:

There's plenty of non-super human based comics.

[Kal El Vis]

It's not a fine line at all.:huh:

There's plenty of non-super human based comics.

It IS a fine line. Denying it because it doesn't suit your opinion doesn't make it any less true.

At the time that Hartnett said he didn't want to play Superman, he hadn't played a comic book character yet. SINCE THEN, he has played TWO. So to toss out something he said 7-8 years ago, and say "See! No dice!" without considering recent history doesn't hold water.

But to refresh your memories, I said it was a FEELING I had. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Hunter Rider]

Matthew Bomer has really impressed me in White Collar and I think he'd make an excellent Clark/Superman.

[Anubis Raptor]

Matthew Bomer has really impressed me in White Collar and I think he'd make an excellent Clark/Superman.


Matt definitely looks the part but he's...well....short:csad:

[Majik1387]

It IS a fine line. Denying it because it doesn't suit your opinion doesn't make it any less true.[quote]
No it isn't. And you denying the truth doesn't make it any less true.:huh:
[quote]At the time that Hartnett said he didn't want to play Superman, he hadn't played a comic book character yet. SINCE THEN, he has played TWO. So to toss out something he said 7-8 years ago, and say "See! No dice!" without considering recent history doesn't hold water.
At that time, he said he didn't want to play a SUPERHERO. He didn't say he was uninterested in comic book/graphic novel roles.
If you're gonna debate something that was said, make sure you know what was said.
Matthew Bomer has really impressed me in White Collar and I think he'd make an excellent Clark/Superman.
Definitely.:up:
Matt definitely looks the part but he's...well....short:csad:
Camera angles, boot lifts, camera magic, etc.

[Webhead2006]

totally sure he was in those two comic films but he wasnt palying a superhero, and i doubt he would want to do superman now.

[Slugster]

I dont know guys and gals... I dont think he looks bad at all.http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7807/supersuit5bystrib2.jpg

[Majik1387]

He doesn't look good at all either

[I SEE SPIDEY]

He doesn't look good at all either:funny:

[GreenKToo]

I liked hartnett back in the day, but after he mentioned he didn't want to be typecast as supes that kinda turned me off from wanting him.
It was like he was saying he was too good for the role or something.
Btw, how's that working out for him now.

[glofty726]

WORST CAST EVER KENT!!!!!!

Superman - Another unknown
Lois Lane - Rachel McAdams
Lex Luthor - Billy Zane

Jor EL - JIm Cazniezl (whatever it is)
Lara - Kate Beckensale (why not)

Ma Kent - Glen Close
Pa Kent - Dennis Quaid

Lana Lang - the red head from that 70's show
Jimmy - the kid from transfromers
Perry - Martin Sheen

Brainiac - i like your pick


right, and ur cast was LIGHTYEARS better

[That-Guy]

LOL, I think he might be onto something. How about this cast...

Superman - the dude from that show on USA
Lois Lane - hot chick from that movie about the demon cheerleader
Lex Luthor - some bald dude, maybe the cop on The Shield

Jor EL - the guy who won an oscar a few years back
Lara - that hot older babe who was in that movie where she cheats on Richard Gere

Ma Kent - someone old
Pa Kent - someone else old

Lana Lang - chick on Mad Men
Jimmy - the kid who played Eric Forman
Perry - guy who is married to Barbara Streisand

Brainiac - Tom Hanks

[Webhead2006]

lol that-guy

[NotFadeAway]

Josh Hartnett sucks lol We don't need another soul sucking, charisma-less actor in the role.

I have yet to find someone I like as much as Matthew Bomer. You know I don't give a crap about his height, it can be fixed. Bomer and Evangiline Lilly are still my top two choices for Superman and Lois, with Henry Cavill and Leighton Meester being the younger 2nd string choices. I know those two names are beating the proverbial dead horse, but I have yet to find anyone as good within the proper age group, and I have tried.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Josh Harnett is a zero now career wise and he isn't a good enough actor to even get buzz on hilmself again.

When his agent and hollywood were pimping him the public just didn't bite. We don't give a s**t about him. He is old news now and never should be brought up again in relation to this or anyother movie. Also, 30 Days of Night was a terrible movie IMHO.

Lilly said that she doesn't have a passion for acting and has said several times that she is practically going to quit acting after Lost goes off air. It's just a no-go with her even in a fantasy casting setting and frankly I don't think she has the chops to pull the role off. She is also far to dour, I want Lois to be funny this time out. That doesn't mean that she isn't serious about things that she should be serious or that she should be a cartoon character but I think that she should be a character.

[Slugster]

OMG! Guys Im sorry I did that last night about 3am and drunk! HAHA!!!
Yeah NO HE DON'T LOOK GOOD.

[bapi]

Hartnett would be great! I really think he's underrated. He just needs his Brokeback Mountain...

[DarkSovereignty]

Does THIS answer your question?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yiGdQlKNmHQ/Sbmz-X2_4bI/AAAAAAAAAqQ/F1acOWWCPHo/s400/Bored-Baby-1284.jpg
omg its waldo! lol... any way after seeing (500) days of summer I kept thinking to myself that Joseph Gordon-Levitt looked like a younger Dean Cain. He's certainly got the talent, how JGL?

[Anubis Raptor]

@Majik1387

Matt is 5'11 and Superman is like 6'3-6'4. Unless he has on platform boots, the most it can push him up to is 6'1 without making him look silly/goofy, IMO.

[Hunter Rider]

Lilly said that she doesn't have a passion for acting and has said several times that she is practically going to quit acting after Lost goes off air. It's just a no-go with her even in a fantasy casting setting and frankly I don't think she has the chops to pull the role off. She is also far to dour, I want Lois to be funny this time out. That doesn't mean that she isn't serious about things that she should be serious or that she should be a cartoon character but I think that she should be a character.

Evangeline definitely has the chops, I'd say she is a better actress than the previous Lois's. Also Kate is a dark troubled character on LOST, in real life Evangeline is funny and lively, she could easily bring that to the role just as she has brought what the writers wanted for Kate.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Eh, I liked Lilly on Lost but she was always the worst actor on the show...IMHO ofcourse.

[Sebastos]

omg its waldo! lol... any way after seeing (500) days of summer I kept thinking to myself that Joseph Gordon-Levitt looked like a younger Dean Cain. He's certainly got the talent, how JGL?

Levitt is a terrific actor, but he's no Superman.

[Kal El Vis]

No it isn't. And you denying the truth doesn't make it any less true.:huh:

Fail.

At that time, he said he didn't want to play a SUPERHERO. He didn't say he was uninterested in comic book/graphic novel roles.
If you're gonna debate something that was said, make sure you know what was said.

Just for clarification, just like I said, he didn't want to play SUPERMAN at the time. Nothing about "superhero's":


Have you been approached for “Superman” again?

I was approached a couple of times for it. I’m not going to do it.

They tried again?
They tried to get me a couple of times and it just wasn’t for me.

A big franchise doesn’t hold any interest to you?
Depending on what it was. If it was a franchise that I thought… If the character was up my alley, I’d do it. But there aren’t that many characters the big studios have been making that have been intriguing to me.So know what YOU are talking about, and what was ACTUALLY said.

[SuperAl]

what about Timothy Olyphant for Superman? The guy is a solid actor, hes made some crappy movies but he was great in The Crazies and hes doing a good job in the new FX series Justified.

[Kal El Vis]

what about Timothy Olyphant for Superman? The guy is a solid actor, hes made some crappy movies but he was great in The Crazies and hes doing a good job in the new FX series Justified.

Something about Olyphant's voice....bugs me. I just can't see him as Supes.

But if you want someone with a similar look, how about Josh Duhamel?

http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/news/News_Josh_Duhamel_Las_Vegas.jpg

Hey, what's that on his shirt that he's covering up??

[Captain America]

what about Timothy Olyphant for Superman? The guy is a solid actor, hes made some crappy movies but he was great in The Crazies and hes doing a good job in the new FX series Justified.

I Wouldn't mind that :supes::up:

[echostation]

He doesn't have the right look...

They need another new comer, as unfortunate as it is that Brandon Routh looks just so perfect for Superman, his acting isn't great... so we need someone who not only looks the role but more importantly can act solid as well, I can't picture Olyphant doing it...

This casting decision will actually be harder than others as they went to such great lengths to get someone who looked fantastic for the role, maybe they can just go over all the old audition tapes and select someone who did a damn good job and who's an unknown...

[SuperAl]

i like the idea of casting an older actor rather than going young for Superman. This cast is important especially if they wanna make a justice league movie. Him and batman should at least look older than most of the other members of the league. I just like the idea of someone like Matthew Fox from Lost or Timothy Olyphant being casted as Superman because they seem like they have that leader quality to them and have played roles where they are the leader. Brandon Routh wouldve looked way too clean cut compared to Bale and even Ryan reynolds. I think Marvel kinda failed casting Evans as captain america, it'll be weird seeing Evans giving orders to all these guys that look older than him.

echo, not exactly sure what the "right look" is. Square jaw is prolly the only quality that i can think of when i think of a superman look in a actual person. Brandon Routh certainly didnt really look like superman to me. he had a smooth, clean cut, male model, never got into a fight, type of look to him, he also looked like he was incapable of growing facial hair.

[Captain America]

He doesn't have the right look...

They need another new comer, as unfortunate as it is that Brandon Routh looks just so perfect for Superman, his acting isn't great... so we need someone who not only looks the role but more importantly can act solid as well, I can't picture Olyphant doing it...

This casting decision will actually be harder than others as they went to such great lengths to get someone who looked fantastic for the role, maybe they can just go over all the old audition tapes and select someone who did a damn good job and who's an unknown...

I Agree... It's always nice to see a new-comer pull off a big role like this.

I know I'm gonna catch heat for this... But I still really like the idea of hayden christensen as superman... I Don't think people even put much thought into the idea of him as supes because of how he did in star wars, But that wasn't all together his fault, back then he was a new actor getting into a titan of a film, in a titan of a role, with a titan director, and enormous expectations... and a not so great script. So I think people sort of banish the idea of him in anything because of that. I Personally think he's a great actor and is rapidly rising

[SuperAl]

I Agree... It's always nice to see a new-comer pull off a big role like this.

I know I'm gonna catch heat for this... But I still really like the idea of hayden christensen as superman... I Don't think people even put much thought into the idea of him as supes because of how he did in star wars, But that wasn't all together his fault, back then he was a new actor getting into a titan of a film, in a titan of a role, with a titan director, and enormous expectations... and a not so great script. So I think people sort of banish the idea of him in anything because of that. I Personally think he's a great actor and is rapidly rising

Have you seen Jumper or Awake? he was pretty horrible in both those films as well.

[Webhead2006]

yea i cant wait to see how casting goes about this time around. what will they be looking for in the actor, what is the look they are going for. How old/young they are shooting for/how old they are going to have the character and all that.

[Captain America]

Have you seen Jumper or Awake? he was pretty horrible in both those films as well.

Yep, I've seen em', And I thought he did a pretty good job

[Kal El Vis]

I Agree... It's always nice to see a new-comer pull off a big role like this.

I know I'm gonna catch heat for this... But I still really like the idea of hayden christensen as superman... I Don't think people even put much thought into the idea of him as supes because of how he did in star wars, But that wasn't all together his fault, back then he was a new actor getting into a titan of a film, in a titan of a role, with a titan director, and enormous expectations... and a not so great script. So I think people sort of banish the idea of him in anything because of that. I Personally think he's a great actor and is rapidly rising

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[Captain America]

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[Kal El Vis]

They need another new comer, as unfortunate as it is that Brandon Routh looks just so perfect for Superman, his acting isn't great...

Perfect for Superman???

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[Kal El Vis]

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[Captain America]

Perfect for Superman???

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[Kal El Vis]

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You lost me with this one.....

[Captain America]

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We should get back on topic now :woot:

[Kal El Vis]

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We should get back on topic now :woot:

Ok, back on topic:

I think Sam Winchester himself would be a good pick for Supes.

Jared Padelecki

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6'4, 27 years old, good actor.

[Captain America]

sounds alright :up:

[GreenKToo]

*IF* you wanted an older supes, then Eric Bana or Jim Caviezel would fit.

[Changeling]

If they're doing an older Supes I really hope Hamm gets it.

[Captain America]

If they're doing an older Supes I really hope Hamm gets it.

:up:

[Changeling]

Hamm sounds like a realistic choice. A lot of fans would be behind him

[RachelDawes]

Something about Olyphant's voice....bugs me. I just can't see him as Supes.

But if you want someone with a similar look, how about Josh Duhamel?

http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/news/News_Josh_Duhamel_Las_Vegas.jpg

Hey, what's that on his shirt that he's covering up??

I'm surprised I never thought of him before. I've only seen him in TF and can't remember how well he acted.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Hamm sounds like a realistic choice. A lot of fans would be behind him

Hamm and anyone in his age range is beyond unrealistic.

They aren't going for an older Superman given WB's current plan.

Especially considering BB/TDK take place in a world where Superman isn't established yet.

Superman will be relatively young; most definitely younger than Bale's Batman.

[cerealkiller182]

Especially considering BB/TDK take place in a world where Superman isn't established yet.


Based on what?

[dark_b]

common sense

[cerealkiller182]

Is this one of the stupid things where if Superman were around wouldnt there be talk of him, cause that is one of the worse excuses ever?

[Webhead2006]

i wouldnt mind to see what hamm could bring to the table as an older supes. But its probably wont ever be that. Since we all know studios love to go with younger guys. But i wouldnt mind him if he was picked.

[Webhead2006]

i wouldnt mind to see what hamm could bring to the table as an older supes. But its probably wont ever be that. Since we all know studios love to go with younger guys. But i wouldnt mind him if he was picked.

[Ring Deacon]

I was looking over the new season of True Blood and found another actor in their cast that could play a pretty good Man of Steel. Joe Manganiello who will be playing Alcide Herveaux a shapeshifter. You man remember him from Spiderman 1 and 3 as Flash Thompson. He is 6'5" so he will fit the height that Supes should be with no problem.

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[SuperAl]

Hamm and anyone in his age range is beyond unrealistic.

They aren't going for an older Superman given WB's current plan.

Especially considering BB/TDK take place in a world where Superman isn't established yet.

Superman will be relatively young; most definitely younger than Bale's Batman.

or you just say that Clark kent didnt decide to become a public icon and hero as superman until he saw someone like Batman, a human risking his life to protect others. And then he realizes he can have a bigger purpose. There case solved.

[Majik1387]

WB won't be casting old...

[SuperAl]

WB won't be casting old...

Bale was in his 30s when he was casted as batman, i believe he is 36 now and Jon Hamm is only 3 years older than him. WB has already casted old if your considering mid 30s as a older actor. Ryan Reynolds is about 34 years old right now. My guess is theyll find someone in the same age group. Don't forget Nolan is gonna have a major say in who gets picked, i dont see him wanting to fill such a big role with some 20 yr old kid.

[Crook]

Oh, bless your optimistic heart. :O

The rest of the world will be over here laughing at the idea of a 40-year old actor playing Superman, for the first film in a planned franchise. :o

[SuperAl]

Oh, bless your optimistic heart. :O

The rest of the world will be over here laughing at the idea of a 40-year old actor playing Superman, for the first film in a planned franchise. :o

Are you suffering from dyslexia or did you not see that i wrote 30s?

[Crook]

I know exactly what you wrote. But you've indicated Hamm is "only" 39 as if that's the same thing as casting someone in their early to mid-30s (who looks young). Hamm is nearing his 40s and looks like it. No actor on the same playing field has a shot at any of these superhero roles.

[Majik1387]

Bale was in his 30s when he was casted as batman, i believe he is 36 now and Jon Hamm is only 3 years older than him. WB has already casted old if your considering mid 30s as a older actor. Ryan Reynolds is about 34 years old right now. My guess is theyll find someone in the same age group. Don't forget Nolan is gonna have a major say in who gets picked, i dont see him wanting to fill such a big role with some 20 yr old kid.
Late 30s into 40s is how old I'm talking.

Late 20's into mid 30s is most likely the age that whoever will play the new Superman will be.

[elgaz]

I was looking over the new season of True Blood and found another actor in their cast that could play a pretty good Man of Steel. Joe Manganiello who will be playing Alcide Herveaux a shapeshifter. You man remember him from Spiderman 1 and 3 as Flash Thompson. He is 6'5" so he will fit the height that Supes should be with no problem.

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Not a bad choice, looked at a few pics of him on google images and he definitely has the build for a potential Superman - very broad and muscular.

[Daybreak_st]

I know exactly what you wrote. But you've indicated Hamm is "only" 39 as if that's the same thing as casting someone in their early to mid-30s (who looks young). Hamm is nearing his 40s and looks like it. No actor on the same playing field has a shot at any of these superhero roles.

Like Robert Downy Jr. being 40 in the first Iron Man film?

[That-Guy]

Yeah, I don't get why so many people are dead set against a late-30's, early 40's Superman when Iron Man, one of the best and most successful superhero films to date, featured an actor in his 40's. I think Supes' age just depends on the time in his career that the movie takes place.

I have heard people here argue that RDJ looked more mid-30s that 40s in Iron Man... that might be true, but I honestly think both Jon Hamm or Eric Bana look younger than him.

[Crook]

Like Robert Downy Jr. being 40 in the first Iron Man film?
No. For one, Robert does not look old for the role, and second, his maturity lends itself well to the character. Tom Cruise was attached to the role for years, and he was already in his mid-to-late 30s when the project was trying to get lifted. Wouldn't be fitting to cast a 20-something for Tony. Ditto for Lex Luthor.

I love Jon Hamm, in fact, a decade ago he would've made a pretty badass Bruce Wayne. But the guy, especially now, is so wrong for Supes. I would not remotely buy him in the role for his mature looks alone. I'd venture I wouldn't be alone. Can you imagine Jon as a Kansas "farmboy" or the Big Blue "boy scout"? That's an incredibly huge stretch. Hamm as Jor-El, now that's something I'd be more than happy to get behind. He commands authority and looks like he's had loads of life experiences.

[That-Guy]

But who says Superman has to be naive? IMO, that's one of the common misconceptions that turns people off. Superman is a true blue do-gooder, but he's also supposed to be highly intelligent and used to dealing with unbelievable challenges. Maybe Hamm wouldn't be right, I don't know... but I do think that Supes should be authoritative and commanding... you don't command respect unless you have some experience.

[Crook]

I'm confused cause I must be the one you're talking to, yet I've not once suggested Supes presenting naivete or lack of commanding presence.

[NotFadeAway]

Are you suffering from dyslexia or did you not see that i wrote 30s?

Rounding......and I agree, Hamm is too old. I feel for you though, my favorite choice of all time, David Boreanaz, is also too old.

[NotFadeAway]

I like the idea of Superman being younger than Batman, btw.

[That-Guy]

I'm confused cause I must be the one you're talking to, yet I've not once suggested Supes presenting naivete or lack of commanding presence.

You had mentioned Supes' image as a farmboy and a boy scout... I just meant that they need to tread lightly when they delve into this aspect of his personality because it can make him appear naive and that can turn people off.

Also, your comment about Hamm looking like he has had loads of life experiences... while you might be right that Hamm isn't the man for the job (though I think he might be good) I was just saying that an actor who gives off the impression that he's been through a lot in his life might work really well for Superman.

[Webhead2006]

yea i seriously doubt we will see anyone around 38-45 yrs old playing superman. Looking at this at a potential series of hopefully 3 films every 2 yrs. Going with someone who is 38 yrs now he would be 40 by time film is out, 43/44 by second film, and close to 48 yrs old by a 3rd film.

The sweet spot for casting is 25-33/34 yrs old. Cause it gives you a bit a of a leaway on how you can go about the character. If the actor looks a bit more mature they can play the character to be older, and if they look younger they can get away with playing the character a little younger. That is another thing we dont know for sure right now how old they are going to have the clark kent/superman character be yet for the film. So that could be the point where age is important.

Now if they are going for character to be 30-35 yrs old then year 30s+ would be right to go. But if they are going to have the character be anywhere between 25-29 yrs old you want to go with a younger guy. Now as for that joe guy, he does have a good look. But i only known his work from the spider-man movie which he didnt do much besides being typical jock guy. I would need to myself look at some of his other work to judge how i like his acting and all that.

[Crook]

You had mentioned Supes' image as a farmboy and a boy scout... I just meant that they need to tread lightly when they delve into this aspect of his personality because it can make him appear naive and that can turn people off.
I used those terms to associate with the physical (rather than spiritual) archetypes they represent; usually youthful, homely, and a touch of sensitivity. Hamm is the complete opposite of this. He looks as cold as he is somber (perfect for Bats).

Also, your comment about Hamm looking like he has had loads of life experiences... while you might be right that Hamm isn't the man for the job (though I think he might be good) I was just saying that an actor who gives off the impression that he's been through a lot in his life might work really well for Superman.
Of course, I'm merely attributing Hamm's best traits with that of Jor-El. I stopped talking about Supes there.

[That-Guy]

Understood, my mistake.

[Changeling]

Hamm would be great at playing an edgier kind of Superman, and I feel we need a more badass and edgy Superman for the new movies. The do-gooder character of Superman isnt very popular with the GA.

[That-Guy]

Yeah, I think that's the problem. They need to write Superman in a way that is tougher and edgier but they need to take care not to turn him into Batman with super powers. This really isn't too hard though... a lot of the comics have pulled this off remarkably well. If Singer's crew had actually picked up a few and read them, they might have been able to pull this off with SR, but well...

[Man of Tomorrow]

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[Man of Tomorrow]

The studio does want a darker, edgier Superman.. action-driven, "angry god"

That was the premise with "Superman Unleashed" and what we're destined to get in "The Man of Steel"


They are pushing for action, and blame 'romance' as the failure of SR.. thus the reboot will likely be very action oriented, much less emotional stuff.


But I am certain it won't be 40 year old John Hamm in the suit looking like someone's dad dressed up as Superman.

[That-Guy]

But Superman IS someone's dad... or did you forget about Jason Lane? :hehe:

[Daybreak_st]

The studio does want a darker, edgier Superman.. action-driven, "angry god"

That was the premise with "Superman Unleashed" and what we're destined to get in "The Man of Steel"


But I am certain it won't be 40 year old John Hamm in the suit looking like someone's dad dressed up as Superman.

The only person to utter the term "angry god" was Bryan Singer. That was specific for "his" vision of the sequel. There's not much merrit to it now. I have no doubt more action will be involved, how edgy it gets is up in the air, as those statements were made long before Nolan and Goyer were involved. I'm sure they'll make a serious, action oriented, intelligent superman film, but until we learn more about their vision, very different from Singer's vision, it's hard to nail down exactly what they'll be going for.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Wrong.

"Angry God" was said by Thomas Tull of Legendary Pictures. It had nothing to do with Bryan Singer.

And Robinov reinforced it saying following Dark Knight, Supes would be darker.

Having Nolan has the consultant for this project is pretty much in line with that.

[NotFadeAway]

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[NotFadeAway]

When really, Superman Returns failed for the pure fact that it was a bad, bland film with a dated story full of nothing and cardboard acting.

[That-Guy]

When really, Superman Returns failed for the pure fact that it was a bad, bland film with a dated story full of nothing and cardboard acting.

But... but... Superman lifted giant objects! And he saved a plane! :hehe:

[Daybreak_st]

Wrong.

"Angry God" was said by Thomas Tull of Legendary Pictures. It had nothing to do with Bryan Singer.

And Robinov reinforced it saying following Dark Knight, Supes would be darker.

Having Nolan has the consultant for this project is pretty much in line with that.


Yeah those quotes still come before Nolan was ever involved. And didn't they say those same things about all of there DC projects? Something along the lines of "pushing our characters as dark as the story will allow" something like that? Yet once Martin Cambell came aboard Green Lantern didn't he say something about it being more in tone with Iron Man rather than the DArk Knight? What i'm saying is those quotes which were given before Nolan was involved. What direction the film actually takes has more to do with what Goyer has written and the director actually does. And didn't Goyer say something about "fun" in his quotes referencing the Bryne era (if that rumor hasn't been debunked yet). And the term "edgy" doesn't sound like a term someone as intelligent as Nolan would say. It's one of those cheap terms some studio guy throws out to sound cool.

[Timstuff]

When really, Superman Returns failed for the pure fact that it was a bad, bland film with a dated story full of nothing and cardboard acting.But... but... Superman lifted giant objects! And he saved a plane! :hehe:

And don't forget the stalking! Superman's creepy voyeuristic stares had the Twilight fangirls swooning!

[NotFadeAway]

But... but... Superman lifted giant objects! And he saved a plane! :hehe:

lol-erz:woot:

But really, I don't blame the lack of fist fighting for the failure of Returns, never have. Thats what returns fans want you to believe, and thats how WB might spin it to avoid admitting a mistake, but it wasn't the one and only cause. Sure, it was ONE of the reasons, but one of a few.

- The story flat out sucked. A sequel to a 25 years old film that tried getting away with using those characters in the modern day, campy Lex for example. Literally, other than the stupid kid, NOTHING happened in the film. Superman returned on the rocket, watched some news, went back to metropolis, re-debuted, flew around with a stone look on his face a few times, stopped a giant continent, read of Brando's lines at the very end, and thats all. And he did so in the form of a dated version of the character and those surrounding him. You litteraly had Parker Posey playing Miss Tessmaucher, it was the same damn thing all over again for crying out loud. Please, someone tell me it wasn't. It was a lazy attempt at remaking Superman: The Movie in the form of a sequel. Same old stuff going on...

- The acting sucked. Everyone knows how I feel about Routh, Bosworth somehow ended us as Lois Lane despite all the good choices out there, the overrated Spacey played a ham, Parker Posey annoyed me with her Tessmaucher rip-off, etc.

- This ties into the 1st. The film was dull. There was no charm, wit, or a villian with a menacing presence anywhere is this film.


- The film played up all the negative stimula about Superman in the general audience.

These are some of the reasons the film failed, not just because of a lack of action. Sayig so is a lie, denial, or both.

[Webhead2006]

well i hope they dont make the character himself dark which is wrong. Though the world and villains can be dark. And superman is the light that cleans it all up like fans said. But i doubt we will see angery god and all that. Hopefully nolan and goyer find the best traits of the character and write him in the way we fans want to see the character displayed in this modern comic book film world. Superman should be the bright bold symbol of hope. Where as batman is the dark gloomy character and all that.

[NotFadeAway]

well i hope they dont make the character himself dark which is wrong. Though the world and villains can be dark. And superman is the light that cleans it all up like fans said. But i doubt we will see angery god and all that. Hopefully nolan and goyer find the best traits of the character and write him in the way we fans want to see the character displayed in this modern comic book film world. Superman should be the bright bold symbol of hope. Where as batman is the dark gloomy character and all that.

You know I agree 100%

[SuperDaniel]

lol-erz:woot:

But really, I don't blame the lack of fist fighting for the failure of Returns, never have. Thats what returns fans want you to believe, and thats how WB might spin it to avoid admitting a mistake, but it wasn't the one and only cause. Sure, it was ONE of the reasons, but one of a few.

- The story flat out sucked. A sequel to a 25 years old film that tried getting away with using those characters in the modern day, campy Lex for example. Literally, other than the stupid kid, NOTHING happened in the film. Superman returned on the rocket, watched some news, went back to metropolis, re-debuted, flew around with a stone look on his face a few times, stopped a giant continent, read of Brando's lines at the very end, and thats all. And he did so in the form of a dated version of the character and those surrounding him. You litteraly had Parker Posey playing Miss Tessmaucher, it was the same damn thing all over again for crying out loud. Please, someone tell me it wasn't. It was a lazy attempt at remaking Superman: The Movie in the form of a sequel. Same old stuff going on...

- The acting sucked. Everyone knows how I feel about Routh, Bosworth somehow ended us as Lois Lane despite all the good choices out there, the overrated Spacey played a ham, Parker Posey annoyed me with her Tessmaucher rip-off, etc.

- This ties into the 1st. The film was dull. There was no charm, wit, or a villian with a menacing presence anywhere is this film.


- The film played up all the negative stimula about Superman in the general audience.

These are some of the reasons the film failed, not just because of a lack of action. Sayig so is a lie, denial, or both.
Exactely! Bryan Singer just had a bad idea from the start.

[GreenKToo]

lol-erz:woot:

But really, I don't blame the lack of fist fighting for the failure of Returns, never have. Thats what returns fans want you to believe, and thats how WB might spin it to avoid admitting a mistake, but it wasn't the one and only cause. Sure, it was ONE of the reasons, but one of a few.

- The story flat out sucked. A sequel to a 25 years old film that tried getting away with using those characters in the modern day, campy Lex for example. Literally, other than the stupid kid, NOTHING happened in the film. Superman returned on the rocket, watched some news, went back to metropolis, re-debuted, flew around with a stone look on his face a few times, stopped a giant continent, read of Brando's lines at the very end, and thats all. And he did so in the form of a dated version of the character and those surrounding him. You litteraly had Parker Posey playing Miss Tessmaucher, it was the same damn thing all over again for crying out loud. Please, someone tell me it wasn't. It was a lazy attempt at remaking Superman: The Movie in the form of a sequel. Same old stuff going on...

- The acting sucked. Everyone knows how I feel about Routh, Bosworth somehow ended us as Lois Lane despite all the good choices out there, the overrated Spacey played a ham, Parker Posey annoyed me with her Tessmaucher rip-off, etc.

- This ties into the 1st. The film was dull. There was no charm, wit, or a villian with a menacing presence anywhere is this film.


- The film played up all the negative stimula about Superman in the general audience.

These are some of the reasons the film failed, not just because of a lack of action. Sayig so is a lie, denial, or both.
Overall I agree. The acting wasnt the best and it sorely lacked more and bigger action scenes. but to be fair, it did have some bright spots, at least for me it did. for instance...
: the plane/shuttle save.
: the saving of richard, lois, and jason from the sinking yacht.
: the scene with Supes flying up and recharging in the sun's rays.

Singer made this film for him and him alone, and even tho I wasn't crazy about it, I can't say I really blame him for that.
I wish WB would give me 200 million and say ''here, make your superman film anyway you like''.

I had a feeling we were in trouble when singer said he had never read a Supes comic but was a big fan of Donner's version. I ignored it and stayed quiet tho because I wanted a Superman film so bad. Then the news came that no Supervillain would be in it but I trusted Singer and hoped it would work out.
Not this time.
I've taken may superman colored glasses off, and I will complain to high heaven if it looks like the reboot is in the same kinda trouble, and I would hope that everyone else would as well.

[That-Guy]

Yeah, you guys pretty much hit the nail on the head with SR. Singer was so in love with Superman '78 that he just wanted to make an updated version of it, guised as a sequel. I suppose that approach could work with a property where the only thing you have to base your story on is the groundwork laid by the original. Basically, had Superman '78 and its sequels been the only time Superman had ever appeared anywhere (i.e. no comic books, no other movies, no TV shows or cartoons) then an updated version of the film might have felt refreshing.

But that's not the case here. There are millions of stories that Singer and his writers could have used to influence the film. But they couldn't get off the Donner kick.

[Night Owl]

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[Webhead2006]

yea fade i just really hope nolan and goyer will be able to look at the various source stories they may or may not be looking at. Then see what makes the characters really tick. So then they make a well rounded out characters. That are real, and honnor what the characters are in the comics. There is so much more they can do with these characters and it sucks film wise we really havent seen that much done. So hopefully they will find the right balance of things this time. Cause if they dont we can really kiss superman good bye probably.

[TheWatcher]

The Man of Steel
Superman/Clark Kent-Henry Cavill or Ryan Mcpartlin
Lois Lane-Olivia Wilde
Lex Luthor-Paul Bettany or Billy Zane
Brainiac-Jason Isaccs
Jimmy Olsen-Anton Yelchin
Perry White-Bruce Campbell
Johnathan Kent-Jeff Bridges
Martha Kent-Diane Keaton(?)
Superman:Last Son
Same cast minus Brainiac.
General Dru-Zod-Rufus Sewell
Ursa-Charlize Theron
Non-Owain Yeoman
Man of Tomorrow
Darkseid-Micheal Ironside with CGI/Makeup ala Hellboy.
Orion-Daniel Craig
Mister Miracle-Casey Affleck
Big Barda-Jodi Lynn O'Keefe
Highfather-Ian Mckellen

Thoughts?

[Webhead2006]

i like some of those names.

[LL2K2]

lol-erz:woot:

But really, I don't blame the lack of fist fighting for the failure of Returns, never have. Thats what returns fans want you to believe, and thats how WB might spin it to avoid admitting a mistake, but it wasn't the one and only cause. Sure, it was ONE of the reasons, but one of a few.

Speed Racer. Poseidon. Lady in the Water. Three WB films with one major factor: all failed miserably at the box office - far worse than SR supposedly did.

- The story flat out sucked. A sequel to a 25 years old film that tried getting away with using those characters in the modern day, campy Lex for example. Literally, other than the stupid kid, NOTHING happened in the film. Superman returned on the rocket, watched some news, went back to metropolis, re-debuted, flew around with a stone look on his face a few times, stopped a giant continent, read of Brando's lines at the very end, and thats all. And he did so in the form of a dated version of the character and those surrounding him. You litteraly had Parker Posey playing Miss Tessmaucher, it was the same damn thing all over again for crying out loud. Please, someone tell me it wasn't. It was a lazy attempt at remaking Superman: The Movie in the form of a sequel. Same old stuff going on...

But done on a much bigger level.

- The acting sucked. Everyone knows how I feel about Routh, Bosworth somehow ended us as Lois Lane despite all the good choices out there, the overrated Spacey played a ham, Parker Posey annoyed me with her Tessmaucher rip-off, etc.

Here's a fact: The film swept the Saturn Awards. Brandon Routh was named Best Superhero (Spike Scream Awards) and Best Newcomer (Empire Magazine) - both voted on by fans.

- This ties into the 1st. The film was dull. There was no charm, wit, or a villian with a menacing presence anywhere is this film.

Lex stabbing Superman with Kryptonite and his goons beating the crap out of him wasn't menacing enough?

- The film played up all the negative stimula about Superman in the general audience.

And the positive, too. Ask yourself this: how would you feel if you were a well-known person returning to your home after being away for many years - and no one cares until you do something tremendous?

Or if you left behind someone you cared about very deeply, you discover they've moved on (although given the gap in time, it would be plausible), and they tell you flat-out that you're not needed ("The world doesn't need a savior, and neither do I")?

That's why he did what he did in the film - the shuttle rescue, NK, the earthquake. He represented hope.

These are some of the reasons the film failed, not just because of a lack of action. Sayig so is a lie, denial, or both.

You're entitled to your opinion, but that is just uncalled for. But at least this film did what no other adaptation has - represented where it came from:

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9250/supermanreturnsstillcap.jpg

[Antonello Blueberry]

For those who want Billy Zane as Luthor, here's the trailer for the latest epic in which he plays a villain:
http://twitchfilm.net/news/2010/05/billy-zanes-finest-hour.php

[GreenKToo]

Zane was the fan favorite back in the day. I wouldn't be opposed to him but I had rather have a bigger name in the role.

As for Jonathan, I have Kurt Russell stuck in my mind.

[Bad Superman]

The main cast should be signed for at least three films. I'm kind of a continuity freak.

[GreenKToo]

I agree. I hate it when a main cast member is recast. I can understand it under certain circumstances, like a death, sickness, etc.

[That-Guy]

I used to be a fan of Billy Zane for Lex. But I think the issue I have with him now is that these days, I tend to associate him with crappy DTV and made-for-TV movies. It's not totally his fault that his career has kind of gone south, but well... I agree, I kind of want a huge name for Lex.

Plus, I can't shake the feeling that if Zane wasn't bald, he wouldn't even cross anyone's mind for the role.

[Bad Superman]

I used to be a fan of Billy Zane for Lex. But I think the issue I have with him now is that these days, I tend to associate him with crappy DTV and made-for-TV movies. It's not totally his fault that his career has kind of gone south, but well... I agree, I kind of want a huge name for Lex.

Plus, I can't shake the feeling that if Zane wasn't bald, he wouldn't even cross anyone's mind for the role.

Ever since I saw him in Titanic I could see hiim as Lex. After seeing him with his bald look, I have no doubt he would do a fine job.

[Webhead2006]

yea i wouldnt mind zane if he was picked, but i think we could get someone a little bit better.

[NotFadeAway]

The main cast should be signed for at least three films. I'm kind of a continuity freak.

As am I......I agree, three film deal for all actors EXCEPT Superman. Get the Superman actor signed to either a four film deal or a three solo film and one ensemble hero(jla) deal.

[NotFadeAway]

Ok, I'm not saying Matthew Fox should be cast as Superman, because he is too old and kind of a douche in real life, but to anyone who watches Lost, I felt like Fox had a VERY Superman like scene at the end of this weeks episode. Superman should be emotional like that, he should be visibly shaken and upset when bad things happen that he can't do anything about.

[betamox]

Ok, I'm not saying Matthew Fox should be cast as Superman, because he is too old and kind of a douche in real life, but to anyone who watches Lost, I felt like Fox had a VERY Superman like scene at the end of this weeks episode. Superman should be emotional like that, he should be visibly shaken and upset when bad things happen that he can't do anything about.
I think a little of that would be a good idea !

[Webhead2006]

well we do know most actors for these types of films do get signed on for a possibly multi picture deal in case the film is a sucess and they do make sequels, so yea who ever is lois/clark/perry/jimmy/lex will all probably be nailed down to a potential deals for sequels.

[NotFadeAway]

I think a little of that would be a good idea !

Thank you.

I hate that the studio and some fanboys want Superman to be some ice cold bad ass. Thats another thing Returns messed up for the character. Everyone and there mother thought Superman was too emo in returns, right there with the whole "No fight scenes/super powered" villian excuse, when in reality the script was flat, Routh can barely emote, and you have Real estate tycoon Lex running around in a wig with camp humor and "goons", one of which was named Brutus. Really, Brutus. Hired muscle named Brutus. I heard several sarcastic laughs upon the mention of a man named Brutus. Yea........thats campy right there. These things are why there were so many people who didn't take the film seriously.

[That-Guy]

Yeah, I've never understood the "Emo Superman" complaints about SR. To be "emo" you have to actually be emotional. Maybe so much to the point where it's annoying and everyone wants to curbstomp you when you walk into the room, but it is what it is.

Superman in SR was not emotional. He was completely devoid of a personality. He was as blank as a mannequin. Blame the script, blame Routh, I don't care... there was nothing "emo" about that Superman. He was just... there.

I want Superman to be compassionate and strong-willed... badass when he needs to be, but most of the time, calm, collected and in control. However, when something drastic happens, it should affect him... because even though he's not human per se, he has a (mostly) human personality. But he should also recognize that he can't afford to let certain things move him as deeply it would an ordinary man; he has to be able to overcome all obstacles.

[Dark Knight]

I have a feeling an "old" name might get a call from WB regarding the reboot.

Who, might you ask?

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/men/josh-hartnett/pictures/josh-hartnett-picture-2.jpg

Josh Hartnett.

The guy is recognizable, but not "too big" for the role, and it's been a while since he was part of a blockbuster movie.

Just a feeling I have....







I would have no problem if Hartnett was cast as Supes.

All he would have to do is bulk up.

[GreenKToo]

Thank you.

I hate that the studio and some fanboys want Superman to be some ice cold bad ass. Thats another thing Returns messed up for the character. Everyone and there mother thought Superman was too emo in returns, right there with the whole "No fight scenes/super powered" villian excuse, when in reality the script was flat, Routh can barely emote, and you have Real estate tycoon Lex running around in a wig with camp humor and "goons", one of which was named Brutus. Really, Brutus. Hired muscle named Brutus. I heard several sarcastic laughs upon the mention of a man named Brutus. Yea........thats campy right there. These things are why there were so many people who didn't take the film seriously.
You know what i'd like to see? Something like seeing the villain put Superman in a postion where he MUST choose who to save. He and Brainiac are fighting at super speed, collateral damage is happening all around. Supes can hear pleas for help from trapped people even while fighting....
Does he save the old couple trapped in a collapsed building, or the police officer trapped in his crashed, burning, car.
Because of Brainiac, even Supes can't save both.

Then, after the choice is made, I want to see Superman so angry at having to make that choice that he is literally shaking with rage.
Supes eyes crackle with power and glow bright red and smoke.
He then proceeds to put a major league a$$ kicking on Brainiac.

I hope the actor they pick can pull off a scene like that.

[GreenKToo]

I think you either have a fetish over tights or your a troll. I'm betting troll.

[Bad Superman]

We're witnessing the effects of having too much tequila on Cinco de Mayo.

[Webhead2006]

greenktoo that would be a cool scene to see.

[Slugster]

You know the SR suit could have been a great suit had it had brighter reds and yellows, a bigger S, open neck, a cape with an S instead of a shower curtain with no S, trunks in stead of speedoes, and Brandon had his hair parted on the left as Superman. Brandon said almost everything in that movie as a line not a whole conversation. and a lot of his time on screen was CGI or whatever.
So can Brandon act?

[Octoberist]

this might be a bold choice, but what about Tom Hardy for Superman? He has pouty lips but he's a damn good actor and he's damn ripped thanks to his work in Bronsan.

[Slugster]

trunks on tights?
Nope
Speedoes are better.
Too big S - Not very good
Old Superman is outdated.
They updated Batman, worked
They updated Superman,worked but only fans crying about everything now.

Ya know I have been a Superman fan all the way back to the 60s. Im prolly old enough to be your Dad ??? But One thing I do know Everytime anyone has tried to change the suit it hasn't worked.
SR tried small changes to the suit and not only did it not work, it has been made fun of and in my opinion hurt the movie it's self.
They tried in the 80s to change the suit and ended up going right back to the classic suit because it lost money.
The movie could have been an epic but Singer spent too much time redoing the Donner films more than making its own movie.
Superman had a child "UH NO!" Superman after growing up still couldnt land a space craft. and a Lex luthor was just as campy as the last.
Now there were some good things too like the plane save and rooftop bullet. It could have been so much better but it lacked vision and an huge epic fight. The cartoon Doomsday movie was better and thats how a superman movie should be done.
I mean its SUPERMAN the 1st and most powerful of all of them. and his compitition was just so so a bald guy trying to sale ocean front property to people after killing "BILLIONS" it's STUPID!

[Kal El Vis]

trunks on tights?
Nope
Speedoes are better.
Too big S - Not very good
Old Superman is outdated.
They updated Batman, worked
They updated Superman,worked but only fans crying about everything now.

I think this dude is speaking "Bizarro speak". You know, saying the opposite of what they mean?

Let me try and translate:

trunks on tights?
Nope

Yes, I believe trunks over the tights would be appropriate in the rebooted Superman film.

Speedoes are better.

I am not a fan of speedo's.

Too big S - Not very good

I did not like the tiny "S" in Returns, and prefer a larger symbol.

Old Superman is outdated.


I am a fan of Classic Superman.

They updated Batman, worked

I did not like how they updated Batman in the recent films.

They updated Superman,worked but only fans crying about everything now.

Superman Returns was a travesty, and the only people who like it are not really Superman fans.

How'd I do??

[Nightwing1983]

trunks on tights?
Nope
Speedoes are better.

Yeah, better for comedy.

Too big S - Not very good
Old Superman is outdated.

Um... how?


They updated Batman, worked
They updated Superman,worked but only fans crying about everything now.

There's a difference between "updating" something and making arbitrary changes. And yes, that applies to the Batman films, too. I think the newer costumes are straight-up ugly.

Brandon's costume was ridiculous. People might make fun of the "underwear on the outside," but I really don't see how an even sillier garment still on the outside of his costume is any sort of improvement. And the S should be big and mighty, because it's @#$%ing Superman. If anything, they should've made it bigger. The boots were ugly. They put tacky little Ses all over the costume, but Heaven Forbid it should have the S on the back of the cape so that he looks more distinct from behind.

The only thing "updated" was the material they used, extraneous details (which, itself, might be on its way out sometime), and the fact that the cape was bigger. That's it. Otherwise, it's just

[superslacker]

Hello, I just found this thread. I tried to find the information for myself, but quit after a few pages and figured I would create an account and post a question of my own.

I was wondering if anyone could tell me when they will actually be casting for this film? If anyone knows the date, or dates, and would be kind enough to reply it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

[Kal El Vis]

Hello, I just found this thread. I tried to find the information for myself, but quit after a few pages and figured I would create an account and post a question of my own.

I was wondering if anyone could tell me when they will actually be casting for this film? If anyone knows the date, or dates, and would be kind enough to reply it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

No one knows for sure yet, but I expect an announcement some time before the San Diego Comic Con in July.

[Slamet]

trunks on tights?
Nope
Speedoes are better.
Too big S - Not very good
Old Superman is outdated.
They updated Batman, worked
They updated Superman,worked but only fans crying about everything now.

Yea, updating the superman outfit would be works, but what they did in SR it just wrong!

[Captain America]

Yea, updating the superman outfit would be works, but what they did in SR it just wrong!

Well put :up:

[GreenKToo]

Hello, I just found this thread. I tried to find the information for myself, but quit after a few pages and figured I would create an account and post a question of my own.

I was wondering if anyone could tell me when they will actually be casting for this film? If anyone knows the date, or dates, and would be kind enough to reply it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.
Like it was already said, nobody knows yet, but you can bet some resourceful individual here will post it beforehand.

[sf2]

...
I mean its SUPERMAN the 1st and most powerful of all of them. and his compitition was just so so a bald guy trying to sale ocean front property to people after killing "BILLIONS" it's STUPID!

hey, don't look down the bald old man. didn't he kick superman's ass badly and make him cry like a little boy in the movie? he can torture ur so called 'SUPER'man further if he wanted to you know? hahaha... the most powerful of all the the superhero??? r u joking? he can't even beat any layman without his superpower you know?

[GreenKToo]

Blame that on the writers, not Superman. And yeah, he is the most powerful hero in DC.

[Dark Knight]

this might be a bold choice, but what about Tom Hardy for Superman? He has pouty lips but he's a damn good actor and he's damn ripped thanks to his work in Bronsan.






Too bad Tom Hardy is not taller......

[Webhead2006]

as for casting stage that is a bit tough call right now. since we dont have an official director signed on, and no official potential start date(beyond we know they have to be filming within any point of next yr). I said myself in other posts i can see scheduling going like this. Director officially announced between now-july. Now if that happens the director can start doing prep work and all that. So then lets say filming were to start up around march/april 2011. So we then have director doing prep work between july 2010-march 2011 that would give the guy about 9 months to do prep work. Which also time for locking down a studio for filming, location shoot places, and props/costume/sets getting built/made. give or take when a couple months. As for casting if we were to start production by march/april 2011. i would figure we should get into casting hopefully by sept/oct frame for at least clark kent actor. So it gives the actor at least 4-5months to work out and all that. Then others can be cast between then and start of filming counting on the character they are.

[Anubis Raptor]

Some of these choices are really absurd.

[Webhead2006]

who you talking to anubis?

[Anubis Raptor]

who you talking to anubis?

I was just speaking in general after overlooking a few pages. No one in particular though, my lad.

[NotFadeAway]

double post

[NotFadeAway]

Well, I'm finally going to sit down and watch "The Tudors" season three this coming week because I have some down time. I'll be doing some Henry Cavill scouting in the process, and I stumbled upon his movie Town Creek, so I'll get back at ya about Cavill later.

[Webhead2006]

ok man i was just wondering.

[Catman]

What about these guys for Superman?

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1//2010/05/dean-cain-brandon-routh/dean-cain-brandon-routh-05.jpg

[Mr. Earle]

Blame that on the writers, not Superman. And yeah, he is the most powerful hero in DC.
I think that's the Flash but its not important anyway.

[GreenKToo]

If Flash is so powerful, then why can't he even carry a film.:oldrazz:
I kid I kid. I like the Flash.

[smooth3006]

Rounding......and I agree, Hamm is too old. I feel for you though, my favorite choice of all time, David Boreanaz, is also too old.


john hamm is too old, i hate the fact his name comes up in everything lately. i know a few fans that are very upset he didn't get cast as captain. :doh:

my choices would be:

brandon routh or josh hartnet for superman/clark

billy zane as lex

anne hathaway as lois lane


:applaud

[smooth3006]

Wrong.

"Angry God" was said by Thomas Tull of Legendary Pictures. It had nothing to do with Bryan Singer.

And Robinov reinforced it saying following Dark Knight, Supes would be darker.

Having Nolan has the consultant for this project is pretty much in line with that.


we don't need a dark superman, this is why im not a fan of nolan being involved.

[smooth3006]

what material? it looks like a cheap material that would look pathetic for a big budget superman movie.


ohhhhhhhhhhhh i forgot male superman fans need to see tight wet muscles on the actor. cute.



weren't you banned for awhile before? i never see you post anything positive in any thread....EVER! :doh:

[NotFadeAway]

What about these guys for Superman?

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1//2010/05/dean-cain-brandon-routh/dean-cain-brandon-routh-05.jpg


Ahh, two of the biggest issues with the character in live action over the steady course of a horrible two decades.

[NotFadeAway]

weren't you banned for awhile before? i never see you post anything positive in any thread....EVER! :doh:

Lets be fair.......it's kind of hard to stay positive in this thread, on this board, and about Superman in general. I'm sure that somewhere, someone is still optimistic about and impressed with Superman Returns. Which means someone out there in on there hands and knees, throwing there fists and getting emotional ala Boyz in The Hood, screaming.......

IT WAS A VAGUE, ROMANTIC MOVIE AHHHHHHH IT WAS A CHARACTER FILM WITH SUBTLE WRITI.....you can stop now.

[Webhead2006]

totally we have no clue how things could turn out this time. Either it will be a smashing sucess, a modest sucess, or a total failure. Hopefully all the execs have learned from past superman mistakes and we will get the best film possible.

[Ultimate_Superman]

totally we have no clue how things could turn out this time. Either it will be a smashing sucess, a modest sucess, or a total failure. Hopefully all the execs have learned from past superman mistakes and we will get the best film possible.The WB wants nothing more then a smashing success from Superman this time around. A modest success was Superman Returns they want something ground breaking or close to Spider-Man numbers. And before you guys say Superman Returns failed remember one thing had Singer stuck to the plain and done a smaller movie as he promised in first place and not a big project we would have had a sequel to that movie. Remember despite some peoples feelings towards the movie the WB was all set and ready to move forward with a sequel to it (even after getting the box office in) so it couldn't have been that much of a failure in their eyes. So you got to look at it this way they want a smash hit and wont settle for anything less.

[cin0]

wat basketball team is that their playin for?

[Tojo]

Yeah, I don't get why so many people are dead set against a late-30's, early 40's Superman when Iron Man, one of the best and most successful superhero films to date, featured an actor in his 40's. I think Supes' age just depends on the time in his career that the movie takes place.

I have heard people here argue that RDJ looked more mid-30s that 40s in Iron Man... that might be true, but I honestly think both Jon Hamm or Eric Bana look younger than him.

Er, but Tony Stark is coffee and doughnut eating mortal man, Kal-el is extra-terrestial super-being, who ages much slower than a human being. He is supposed to look spectacular, like a greek god. Hamm doesn't inspire that in me, he's handsome and looks like someone alex ross would cast, but to me he just looks like someone's dad. And at 40, he is way too old for Superman.

WB would NEVER, ever ever cast a 40yr old as Superman, it's middle aged in our society. He'll be 27-30 range i'm sure, if not younger(hopefully not). Because i'm pretty sure we're not looking at a mature superman here, but then again only Nolan knows.

And RDJ was wearing alot of make-up in IM2, as anyone who saw Sherlock Holmes(make-up was not used) can testify.

[Tojo]

LOL, I think he might be onto something. How about this cast...

Superman - the dude from that show on USA
Lois Lane - hot chick from that movie about the demon cheerleader
Lex Luthor - some bald dude, maybe the cop on The Shield

Jor EL - the guy who won an oscar a few years back
Lara - that hot older babe who was in that movie where she cheats on Richard Gere

Ma Kent - someone old
Pa Kent - someone else old

Lana Lang - chick on Mad Men
Jimmy - the kid who played Eric Forman
Perry - guy who is married to Barbara Streisand

Brainiac - Tom Hanks

lol that made me laugh so much :woot:

[elgaz]

So ............... my gf has never watched 24, and I've been introducing her to the early seasons and also rewatching them myself. We're on season 2 at the moment and Kim Bauer's boyfriend Miguel has just been introduced, and it struck me that the actor who plays him (Innis Casey) has a good potential Superman look, though he obviously needs to bulk up. Don't really know much about him but here's a few pics.

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/81/l_2a41a732db8f6878725799be033fdbd8.gif

http://static.cinemarx.ro/poze/postere/actori/inn/Innis-Casey-37769-137.jpg

http://image.qpicture.com/image/i/artist-innis-casey/295635.jpg

[Nimibro]

supes-henry cavill

lex luthor-ralph fiennes

lois lane-keri russel?/olivia wilde/anne hathaway

jonathan kent-sam neill

martha kent-sissy spacek

jimmy olsen-frankie muniz/jamie bell

perry white-tommy lee jones

jor-el-jim cazievel/thomas jane

lara-sara stewart

brainiac-hugo weaving/patrick stewart

sequels:

general zod-gerard butler

parasite-thomas haden church

[Webhead2006]

well yea i do hope a smashing big success for this next superman film. since we know it has to be or superman on film is likely going to be dead for a long long time. i was just saying we dont know how things will ultimately go yet. since we dont have enough details and all that. But i am hoping nolan, goyer will do great stuff for superman like they did with batman.

[GreenKToo]

It will all depend on the Marketing. At the least it should be on par with what TDK's was.
They MUST let the public know that THIS film has a supervillain and lots of action. That point will need to be hammered home.
I don't think i'd hold back on revealing what the supervillain looks like either, i'd reveal him in the teasers. Same with Supes, show us a shot or two of the new suit.

If this were the first Superman film ever, then I could see holding back and not revealing too much, but it's not. Alot is riding on this film.

They need to make the public go ''DAMN, I gotta see that!!''
What better way to do that by showing a quick shot of Supes and Brainiac in a mid air brawl over Metropolis with NUMEROUS highrise buildings in the background in ruins. Think of the destruction in Cloverfield, but X 10.

[InKaH]

I always thought George Eads from CSI had a good Superman look about him (facially). A touch of hair dye and some blue contacts and I think he could look the part. Not a bad actor either?

http://www.buddytv.com/artist-photos/George_Eads/9th_Annual_Screen_Actors_Guild_Awards/LRS-018946.jpg

[Webhead2006]

he would be nice but i believe he is nearing 40s or what not.

[Dark_Lord]

Don't ask me why I did this. I have no idea. It's late and I'm really, really bored. I know it didn't come out good, but I just made it for fun. I'm not really suggesting him.

Anyway...Castiel (Misha Collins) as Superman. :oldrazz:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8206/supermancastiel.jpg

[GL1]

Just had to chime in on two things:

Lex stabbing Superman with Kryptonite and his goons beating the crap out of him wasn't menacing enough?

That particular scene wasn't nearly menacing enough for me. It was, more or less, a simple curb stomping. Beyond his ability to inflict physical pain, Lex Luthor was irrelevant psychologically.

And the positive, too. Ask yourself this: how would you feel if you were a well-known person returning to your home after being away for many years - and no one cares until you do something tremendous?

Or if you left behind someone you cared about very deeply, you discover they've moved on (although given the gap in time, it would be plausible), and they tell you flat-out that you're not needed ("The world doesn't need a savior, and neither do I")?

That's why he did what he did in the film - the shuttle rescue, NK, the earthquake. He represented hope.

I don't think hope is Superman's defining characteristic, nor do I think he gave hope to anyone. Until the deeds were done, no one was optimistic, and once the deeds were done, there was no reason to 'hope' they were already saved. Batman didn't provide hope when he stopped Ra's Alghul's train, and Superman didn't provide hope when he caught the plane.

The really good things about Superman in comics, his morality/strong sense of belief, which does inspire and can bring hope, and his insane sense of responsibility and the need to save as many as possible. Basically, a hero complex. I think Singer got the latter, but on the first he just decided to "prove" that Superman is needed, to make it a pragmatic decision, instead of a personal one. And a pragmatic hero, isn't really much of a hero, is he?

But at least this film did what no other adaptation has - represented where it came from:

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9250/supermanreturnsstillcap.jpg

I find it incredible that you don't feel any other adaptation has represented where it came from, as finding a more faithful, more entertaining, deeper or more epic adaptation of Superman is easy as pie. But you're right, none of the others did an homage to Action Comics #1 that I've seen.

[GreenKToo]

Teh green is too lite. :oldrazz:

[Kal El Vis]

That particular scene wasn't nearly menacing enough for me. It was, more or less, a simple curb stomping. Beyond his ability to inflict physical pain, Lex Luthor was irrelevant psychologically.

I'll go you one better:

That scene betrayed what Superman is REALLY all about.

Superman is who he is because of the man, not because of the powers. Whining and not throwing a SINGLE PUNCH because of kryptonite?

That's not Superman.

I don't think hope is Superman's defining characteristic, nor do I think he gave hope to anyone. Until the deeds were done, no one was optimistic, and once the deeds were done, there was no reason to 'hope' they were already saved. Batman didn't provide hope when he stopped Ra's Alghul's train, and Superman didn't provide hope when he caught the plane.

That scene could have been 100X more powerful if the people reacted with sadness and questions when he landed that plane. No one saying anything, then you hear a voice call out "Where were you?" and things of the sort. It would have demonstrated a world that had "moved on", not one who says "Hey, you're back! Bygones be bygones, big guy!".

The really good things about Superman in comics, his morality/strong sense of belief, which does inspire and can bring hope, and his insane sense of responsibility and the need to save as many as possible. Basically, a hero complex. I think Singer got the latter, but on the first he just decided to "prove" that Superman is needed, to make it a pragmatic decision, instead of a personal one. And a pragmatic hero, isn't really much of a hero, is he?

The title character in Superman Returns wasn't much of a hero at all, really.

I find it incredible that you don't feel any other adaptation has represented where it came from, as finding a more faithful, more entertaining, deeper or more epic adaptation of Superman is easy as pie.

You ain't lyin'.

[db85usa]

You know what i'd like to see? Something like seeing the villain put Superman in a postion where he MUST choose who to save. He and Brainiac are fighting at super speed, collateral damage is happening all around. Supes can hear pleas for help from trapped people even while fighting....
Does he save the old couple trapped in a collapsed building, or the police officer trapped in his crashed, burning, car.
Because of Brainiac, even Supes can't save both.

Then, after the choice is made, I want to see Superman so angry at having to make that choice that he is literally shaking with rage.
Supes eyes crackle with power and glow bright red and smoke.
He then proceeds to put a major league a$$ kicking on Brainiac.

I hope the actor they pick can pull off a scene like that.

Similar to Batman when he had to choose between Harvey and Rachel? This was sort of done already in S:TM when all hell broke loose leaving Lois dead and then he got so pissed he did something that was forbidden in order to undo her death. I would like to see something along those lines of what you're talking about but with a twist of course.

On another note, I've noticed that some posters are opposed to the idea of Superman being "Dark" -- I think we should tread carefully and think about what that exactly means. I'm assuming here but it COULD mean that the next film and the Superman character will be a little more personal, more psychological than what we've seen before. "Dark" doesn't always mean apocalyptic, end of the world, evil, etc.

The boyscout version of Superman worked 30+ years ago but as for today, expect things to be different. Sure, in SR we got an updated Donner universe/version of Supes but to me it didn't work out that well. This time, we'll see a Superman we have not seen on film yet IMO. And why would anyone be opposed to something refreshing and new?

[Webhead2006]

i like the guy who plays castial in supernatural but he doesnt really seem the right type for superman. Maybe more for a character like the question or something like that i would think is better place for him to go.

[Dark_Lord]

i like the guy who plays castial in supernatural but he doesnt really seem the right type for superman. Maybe more for a character like the question or something like that i would think is better place for him to go.

I don't think he looks right either. That's why I said that I made the manip because I was bored and it was just for fun. I could see him as the question though (like you said).

[Webhead2006]

i know what you were saying, i was just agreeing he isnt right for superman but a host of other dc guys he could work well with.

[Changeling]

I brought up Josh Hartnett again awhile ago, and everybody hated the choice. Now, a few months later everyone seems cool with it. Its funny.

But yeah, I'd love Hartnett as Superman

[Changeling]

I like Matt Dallas as Superman too

[cin0]

I'll go you one better:

That scene betrayed what Superman is REALLY all about.

Superman is who he is because of the man, not because of the powers. Whining and not throwing a SINGLE PUNCH because of kryptonite?

That's not Superman.




that's exactly how i felt. i was thinkin he would get up and at least try to fight back instead of getting pulled by his hair and screamin "im still superman!". he didnt even try to get up.

[GreenKToo]

I'm not feeling Matt Dallas. I dont mean this disrespectful toward the guy, but I get a creepy vibe when looking at his pics.

[betamox]

I brought up Josh Hartnett again awhile ago, and everybody hated the choice. Now, a few months later everyone seems cool with it. Its funny.

But yeah, I'd love Hartnett as Superman

Just for the record i'd be disappointed with Hartnett as Superman !

Not to be argumentative because i've seen him mentioned a few times recently and didn't voice my opinion on it. But if i had to choose he wouldn't be among those i'd be thinking of .

[Webhead2006]

well i really cant wait to see what names we will actually be seeing testing for it this time.

[GreenKToo]

Didn't showtime say he wouldn't be surprised if the prospects come outta the same crop that tested for Cap?

[Webhead2006]

i am sure a few will probably test, hopefully it would be some of the better choices out there. But we dont really know what the criteria they will be wanting yet.

[GreenKToo]

Hundreds I would guess...unless nolan, goyer, and the as of yet unnamed director already have someone in mind.

[ZombieONE]

moved post

[Webhead2006]

yea thats the thing we dont know whats the case for casting, will it be a wide open casting call, will it be a closed one, will they first go after certain few actors and if they decline to take the role go for open casting.......

[Man of Tomorrow]

IMO this guy would be the perfect Jimmy Olsen for the reboot.

Nicholas Purcell. He's the star of Nick's "The Troop"

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1617132/

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/quiz/298000/298499_1254636216573_360_450.jpg http://www.nick.co.uk/shows/thetroop/img/jake.jpg

Clips:

http://that-imta-blog.blogspot.com/2010/04/nicholas-purcell-and-troop-back-for.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BexS0x7no0E&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qyfs4YLcWY

[batlovescatDC]

^ Good find! Jimmy is one of those roles that I have a really hard time coming up with casting choices for. Just too many actors that I.... 1. don't think can pull off the look of the role and 2. would just get on my last nerves in the role of jimmy. Like this Superbad kid that so many people want for the role... I'd shoot myself.

[That-Guy]

I don't care who plays Jimmy, just as long as it's not Michael Cera or his apparent acting clone, Jesse Eisenberg. But yeah, that kid looks perfect.