The Official Superman Casting Thread

[Timstuff]

Yeah, that's insane. I wonder what the implications will be for Marvel in the future?

Anyway, to keep things on topic, here's a new Cavill manip I just finished.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/Timstuff_photos/cavill_superman.jpg

[Webhead2006]

nice manip.

[Sam]

The Disney deal won't really take into effect for quiet some time. All the current contracts with other studios like Paramount, Sony, Fox, etc. still stand.

I know. But just imagine the marketing power Disner has.

TV shows, cartoons, toys, Disney Land, all kind of merchandises.

They are going to smash DC and show WB how to deal correct with properties they have under their belt.

[nintendo nerd]

Yeah, that's insane. I wonder what the implications will be for Marvel in the future?

Anyway, to keep things on topic, here's a new Cavill manip I just finished.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/Timstuff_photos/cavill_superman.jpg

Ugh. Looks like a guy stuck in the 80's.

[Webhead2006]

I know. But just imagine the marketing power Disner has.

TV shows, cartoons, toys, Disney Land, all kind of merchandises.

They are going to smash DC and show WB how to deal correct with properties they have under their belt.
Well it should be very interesting to see how things come about.

[Timstuff]

Disney only has the movie rights to whatever Marvel did prior to the acquisition, so Fox still has X-Men, Fantastic 4 and Daredevil, and Sony still has Spider-Man. They're not going to be "showing DC how to do it" any more than they already were for quite some time (although that still is a lot better than what DC has been up to). Also, please stay on topic.

[GreenKToo]

I like Cavill but i'm not digging that manip.:O

[cin0]

Disney/Marvel is going to eat WB/DC alive.

Sorry guys, this is it. So long, DC.

r u serious. disney is garbage, pairing with marvel wont change that. the only movies disney made that weren't for little kids was national treasure....and thats all i can think of. this just seems like a bad pair to me. disney marvel wont even bite wb dc dead. sorry for u, dc aint goin nowhere. especially not with all the movies they have goin that are finally somethin other than just batman and superman. marvel is just now comin out with good movies.

[GreenKToo]

You do know that touchstone pictures is owned by Disney don't you?
Plenty of non-kiddie films have been made by them.

[Webhead2006]

or miramax, hollywood pictures, and a few others. But yes lets try to get back to superman casting and leave the marvel/disney stuff here: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=17415043

So any one have any new or interesting names to dicuss.

[nintendo nerd]

or miramax, hollywood pictures, and a few others. But yes lets try to get back to superman casting and leave the marvel/disney stuff here: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=17415043

So any one have any new or interesting names to dicuss.

Why do you want some interesting names, when you want Welling for the role?

[cin0]

You do know that touchstone pictures is owned by Disney don't you?
Plenty of non-kiddie films have been made by them.

let's pretend that i said this then, them pairing together doesnt mean anything. especially since wb and dc are comin out with new and great movies with, and finally with characters other than batman and superman. its a great move by marvel to try to get ahead of dc, but dc just stepped its game up farther. dc's not goin anywhere.

[JamalYIgle]

Disney/Marvel is going to eat WB/DC alive.

Sorry guys, this is it. So long, DC.

BWahahahahahahaha !!!!!
That's really funny. Really really funny.

[FilmNerdJamie]

The Disney deal won't really take into effect for quiet some time. All the current contracts with other studios like Paramount, Sony, Fox, etc. still stand.

....and yet David Poland is now saying that Marvel's lack of funds is one of the reasons for the Disney buy-out. They basically don't have the money to produce Thor, Captain America, Avengers, etc. (the deal set up with Paramount is 100% for distribution only and Marvel was to pay for the films themselves) and that Disney may end up killing those projects. Ouch.

[Dark Knight]

Disney/Marvel is going to eat WB/DC alive.

Sorry guys, this is it. So long, DC.





Suuuuuuuuuuuuure it will.......:o :whatever:

[Dark Knight]

....and yet David Poland is now saying that Marvel's lack of funds is one of the reasons for the Disney buy-out. They basically don't have the money to produce Thor, Captain America, Avengers, etc. (the deal set up with Paramount is 100% for distribution only and Marvel was to pay for the films themselves) and that Disney may end up killing those projects. Ouch.




Wow! Now that would be an interesting development....if Disney just puts those films on the back burner....

[Webhead2006]

Why do you want some interesting names, when you want Welling for the role?
Nintendo nerd, yes i do like welling. i like his work on smallville most of the time and yes i would love to see him be a full blown superman. But he isnt the only dam person i wouldnt mind seeing play superman. I know their its tons of actors out their who could do a very good job with the role and it just doesnt have to be just one person like reeve, cain, welling, or even routh. Do i know who is the right person to don the suit next no. I do hope i can get behind who ever it might be if they can get the next film/reboot going and all that.

[RachelDawes]

....and yet David Poland is now saying that Marvel's lack of funds is one of the reasons for the Disney buy-out. They basically don't have the money to produce Thor, Captain America, Avengers, etc. (the deal set up with Paramount is 100% for distribution only and Marvel was to pay for the films themselves) and that Disney may end up killing those projects. Ouch.

That would suck, especially Thor, because I'm really looking forward to that project.

[Young Superman]

How about Sam Heughan as superman?

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^Thanks for not posting a picture!

[Timstuff]

That would suck, especially Thor, because I'm really looking forward to that project.

I'm not worried about it. Marvel needed money to get their movies made, and selling themselves to Disney got them a lot of it. Disney didn't pay 4 billion dollars just to get Iron Man 3 (since Iron Man 2 is still being distributed by Paramount).

[Webhead2006]

actually from what i been reading and seeing over in the disney/marvel thread disney doesnt really have a say on anything with the films still under fox, or sony for spiderman to those deals come to their deadlines in the next few yrs/decade or so. But yes from what i was reading marvel was paying for ironman 2, thor, cap, avengers and a 5th film(likely ironman 3) out of their own pockets and with paramount still having the rights to distrubute those 5 films. So yea the deal with disney does give them more money to work with now. And i dont see why disney would want to put a stopper on thor/cap when buying marvel to get the boy/male demo they want.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm not really worried but I do hope Disney doesn't turn into another WB. WB can't get Superhero movies out for s**t.

I'm still afraid that GL isn't going to be made.

[Webhead2006]

Yup there is alot of things for marvel fans to worry about, but right now things seem to stay the same and if things dont change that should be fine.

[Sam]

BWahahahahahahaha !!!!!
That's really funny. Really really funny.

Thank you, glad u like it! ;)

Im your fan, btw

[Sawyer]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Monteith

Looks-wise I think he would be great. Age-wise... eh. I'm willing to bet it will at least be another 3-4 years before we see a Supes film, regardless of all this lawsuit stuff. I'm sorry, I just really cant/dont want to visualize a Superman film being out by 2011. It just seems like its too soon.

And acting-wise... I'll need to see more of his stuff to know for sure if he could make a good Clark/Supes.

[Octoberist]

done by 2012.

The judge said that it has to be in production by 2011.

[Sawyer]

done by 2012.

The judge said that it has to be in production by 2011.

Oh, my bad. That sounds a little more reasonable, but still... I'm not so sure about this.

[Webhead2006]

yup all the judge said it has to be in production by 2011 what time point in 2011 i dont know if that was revealed. But whos to say the film would be out in 2012 they could take awhile with the film and its out 2013. But we just first have to find out if they can actually get something going by the deadline they have.

[B]

I can't see the point in releasing another film until this legal stuff is worked out. In 2013 WB are going to lose some key elements to the Superman story & brand thus making the character almost unrecognisable. There is a chance if they did release another film prior to 2013 that it could be a 1 off film again like Superman Returns as in the next film they'd not have the rights to use alot of things without either buying the rights from the Siegals or giving them some sort of usage fee..

I personally feel they should get all the legal issues sorted, work out something so that either WB pay the Siegals a "hire fee" for use of the aspects of the character they've regained in rights or just plain buy them back from them. Then start to move forward & reboot the Superman character rather than making a half assed rushed film..

[Webhead2006]

That is the tough thing what is really going on with the legal copyright stuff, and come 2013 what does the familes have, and what are they legally able to do, then what does dc/wb have and what can they use.

[Timstuff]

Warner Bros. will have pay the Siegels a liscense to use a lot of stuff. The question is, will it be a flat fee that covers everything, or are they going to be like "OK, the name Superman is 5 million dollars, Clark Kent is another million, Lois Lane 2 million, the origin story is 2 million..." etc. The latter would be very stupid IMO, and since Warner Bros. effectively owns half of the Superman license (by way of the iconic logo, the Daily Planet, Kryptonite, Lex Luthor, etc.) the Siegels really would have nothing to gain by withholding them from Warner Bros.

[Webhead2006]

I know hopefully things in the end will all work out for both parties they make some reasonable deal to keep the character fully intact and they just get a nice chunk of change.

[NotFadeAway]

I'm not really worried but I do hope Disney doesn't turn into another WB. WB can't get Superhero movies out for s**t.

I'm still afraid that GL isn't going to be made.

I'm right there with ya Spidey.

My friend and I got in a huge fanboy arguement during a three hour roadtrip about Disney buying Marvel, I was against it and he was for it.

[Young Superman]

Tom Welling for Superman Reboot.

[B]

Edit - Guy above removed manip so comment didn't apply :)

[NotFadeAway]

Tom Welling for Superman Reboot.

:dry:

[Webhead2006]

Cant wait to see how they plan to go/have the next clark kent look like. Like i said before i really hope they drop the reeve look. It has its place but really it should be a new look for the new times. Also then the new guy isnt stuck having to look like past superman and define the look of his supes on his own.

[NotFadeAway]

Cant wait to see how they plan to go/have the next clark kent look like. Like i said before i really hope they drop the reeve look. It has its place but really it should be a new look for the new times. Also then the new guy isnt stuck having to look like past superman and define the look of his supes on his own.

This is how I would have Clark look.

- Clark would wear his hair down. It would be neat, but down. It always bugged me that he wore his hair up as both Clark and Superman.

- Small but dark rimmed glasses. 21st century geekish, because Clark should be a bit of a NATURAL dork.

- Dresses casually classy. Polo shirts, button downs, black or brown turtle necks, khakis that can be used for both tuck in shirts and casual wear, green or brown in color.

- Clark would never, ever be seen in a pice of red or blue clothing, the opposite of Smallville's Clark.

I would Clark show up for his first day at the planet completely overdressed, with a suit like the one Reeve wore. This would then lead to Clark getting teased, with Jimmy saying "someone, get this man a fedora".

[Webhead2006]

that sounds like a nice idea for clark look.

[cronosred]

Tom Welling for Superman Reboot.

I'm a fan of Smallville and I like Welling but I don't want someone who doesn't want to wear the suit to play Superman in the next big screen attempt. At this point I'll be amazed if they get him to wear the real suit in the finale of the show.

[Webhead2006]

well he does seem more open to the idea nowadays and all that. But who knows. I too would love to see welling be superman on the big screen. Though i know he isnt likely going to be picked. He isnt the only person i would be down with seeing as supes. I would be down with boomer/cavill too, then their is tons and tons of actors i dont know of known/semi known who would probably do very well in the role.

[B]

This is how I would have Clark look.

- Clark would wear his hair down. It would be neat, but down. It always bugged me that he wore his hair up as both Clark and Superman.

- Small but dark rimmed glasses. 21st century geekish, because Clark should be a bit of a NATURAL dork.

- Dresses casually classy. Polo shirts, button downs, black or brown turtle necks, khakis that can be used for both tuck in shirts and casual wear, green or brown in color.

- Clark would never, ever be seen in a pice of red or blue clothing, the opposite of Smallville's Clark.

I would Clark show up for his first day at the planet completely overdressed, with a suit like the one Reeve wore. This would then lead to Clark getting teased, with Jimmy saying "someone, get this man a fedora".

I'd like Clark to be relaxed in his dress sense, yet still neat enough for a reporter, Dean Cain's was quite fitting for the time when it was made. I think what Tom Welling's Clark wears most of the time when hes not in his flannel or red/blue t-shirts is pretty spot on for a casual yet reporter look of the 21st century..
Suits are ok though, just not ones that look 'too' formal...

Glasses wise the pair Routh used in Superman Returns or the pair Welling wore Smallville episode 'Apocalapse' are pretty much the same & I think they are ideal.

His hairstyle shouldn't be styled as Clark, it should be a relaxed hair parting. With Superman his hairstyle should reflect having to fly about at super speed. If he is to have a little 'flick' it should be a natural one & not styled like the SR version.. Basically I want his hairstyle to look Superman like but at the same time not look like he has to get a comb out every time he stops flying to save someone...

I'm a fan of Smallville and I like Welling but I don't want someone who doesn't want to wear the suit to play Superman in the next big screen attempt. At this point I'll be amazed if they get him to wear the real suit in the finale of the show.

I don't think there was ever a suggestion from him that if he was asked to wear the suit he'd have flat out refused. I think it was all blown out of proportion with an answer he gave about being type cast.

At the end of the day I'm happy that Tom Welling will at the very minimum get to complete his Smallville Superman story.
He would be my ideal casting for a movie however I'm not against other actors taking the role, so I wouldn't cry about it unless the actor whom is cast is.. well think DJ Cotrona/Nicolas Cage..

[Webhead2006]

oh totally dj and nick cage are totally wrong for superman, though i do like some nick cage films.

[B]

I love the majority of Nicolas Cage films I've seen, hes a superb actor..

However look wise he doesn't resemble Superman in the slightest

[X Knight]

This is how I would have Clark look.

- Clark would wear his hair down. It would be neat, but down. It always bugged me that he wore his hair up as both Clark and Superman.

- Small but dark rimmed glasses. 21st century geekish, because Clark should be a bit of a NATURAL dork.

- Dresses casually classy. Polo shirts, button downs, black or brown turtle necks, khakis that can be used for both tuck in shirts and casual wear, green or brown in color.

- Clark would never, ever be seen in a pice of red or blue clothing, the opposite of Smallville's Clark.

I would Clark show up for his first day at the planet completely overdressed, with a suit like the one Reeve wore. This would then lead to Clark getting teased, with Jimmy saying "someone, get this man a fedora".

y'know.....that reminded me of how the Power Rangers used to always dress in civilian clothes with colors that matched their Ranger color.......lol.

[Lightning54SC]

How about this guy for Superman?

http://www.4freeimagehost.com/resized/PUSHf35ed155576e.jpg

He already plays a superman like character on Heroes. I find him to be a pretty good actor.

you realize hes only 5-9 ha

[Webhead2006]

he is a decent actor though i doubt we would even see milo as superman. Closest we have to that is him in heroes lol. Though he is better suited for other roles in my opinion.

[darknite17]

Tyler Hoechlin

22 years old and 6ft 1inc

Does not look like Reeve, but does look like Superman.

http://content5.catalog.photos.msn.com/ft/share0/6ec1/0/5673008.jpg

[Webhead2006]

He has an interesting look to him. Dont know his work, so i cant judge him at this time.

[Kryptonian Warrior]

Tom Welling for Superman Reboot.
Now there's a fresh idea that nobody has ever heard before. :whatever:

[darknite17]

I've only seen him in Road to Perdition playing Hanks son, but he was only a kid. If the creators are looking for a proven talent then they might have to go with someone older, like Henry Cavill.
The project is too big for WB to miscast the title role. Personally from a visual POV Superman has to be over 6 foot, atheletic build and blue eyes as depicted over the decades.

[darknite17]

Welling has never convinced me as Superman during action scenes for some reason, maybe the "no tights, no flights" policy of Smallville backfired. But then again if the right director was at the helm then maybe Tom would'nt be a bad shout.

[Webhead2006]

I said it before i do like tom and i would love to see what he could do for a big screen superman. But he isnt the only guy i would want. I dont have many names i like, but i know there is tons of folks out their i dont know of who has that right look, skills, persona, etc.... out there that the role needs.

[darknite17]

Persona is crucial. I think that if you are a Hollywood party-boy that don't genuinly have passion for the project, then that can resonate on camera. I'm 80% sure that it will be a completely unknown. I just hope that WB are scouting for talent and not relying on fans to do their work for them!

I've always felt, after watching Beowulf, that thats the direction WB should go with Superman and still get a stellar cast to voice the characters.
Maybe after James Cameron's Avatar, audiances will have a new found respect for this style of film making. Trust me.. Disney(Pixar)/Marvel will do pure motion-capture movie first.

[B]

Persona is crucial. I think that if you are a Hollywood party-boy that don't genuinly have passion for the project, then that can resonate on camera. I'm 80% sure that it will be a completely unknown. I just hope that WB are scouting for talent and not relying on fans to do their work for them!

I've always felt, after watching Beowulf, that thats the direction WB should go with Superman and still get a stellar cast to voice the characters.
Maybe after James Cameron's Avatar, audiances will have a new found respect for this style of film making. Trust me.. Disney(Pixar)/Marvel will do pure motion-capture movie first.

:dry:

You mean a Superman movie like Beowulf in terms of computerised?

Can't say I'd be too keen on the idea, I don't think I'd want it over a live action proper film..

However in saying that everything could almost be made near perfect in terms of look..
If Batman & Superman's animated show(s) are anything to go buy they usually come out well in keeping with cannon, story & sound as well..

Hopefully WB won't do anything hasty, I'm hoping they will clear these legal issues up first before attempting to do another Superman film..
I fear 1 more bad film & Superman can kiss the big screen goodbye for another 10 years..

[Webhead2006]

oh yea if they do another film and it bombs we can pretty much kiss superman good bye from films for a long time :( I really do hope they can get the whole copyright stuff resolved with the families and all that. So superman stays fully intact. Hopefully the next film can be a great success.

[Frodo]

Tyler Hoechlin

22 years old and 6ft 1inc

Does not look like Reeve, but does look like Superman.

http://content5.catalog.photos.msn.com/ft/share0/6ec1/0/5673008.jpg

He's a bit too young now, but in several years he could work. I think Cavill is about the right age and has the look as well. On a side note , I actually think Hoechin could play a young Elvis .

[LL2K2]

This is how I would have Clark look.

- Clark would wear his hair down. It would be neat, but down. It always bugged me that he wore his hair up as both Clark and Superman.

- Small but dark rimmed glasses. 21st century geekish, because Clark should be a bit of a NATURAL dork.

- Dresses casually classy. Polo shirts, button downs, black or brown turtle necks, khakis that can be used for both tuck in shirts and casual wear, green or brown in color.

- Clark would never, ever be seen in a pice of red or blue clothing, the opposite of Smallville's Clark.

Check, check, check - his hair is down neatly, he's wearing modern horn-rims, and he's got something of a preppy look going with the sweater vest over a shirt and tie:

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5963/srclarksuit1.jpg

[Mostpowerful]

I said it before i do like tom and i would love to see what he could do for a big screen superman. But he isnt the only guy i would want. I dont have many names i like, but i know there is tons of folks out their i dont know of who has that right look, skills, persona, etc.... out there that the role needs.

Yes, yes, you HAVE.. NO doubt about that. :hehe:

[MAN O STEEL]

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1992/rghjjkiv3blue.png (http://img170.imageshack.us/i/rghjjkiv3blue.png/)





Steve

[Young Superman]

Great work steve.

[Crook]

Check, check, check - his hair is down neatly, he's wearing modern horn-rims, and he's got something of a preppy look going with the sweater vest over a shirt and tie:

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5963/srclarksuit1.jpg
Wow, you did not read his post at all. Where in the world do you see "small, 21st century glasses"? Or modern casual-wear as indicated?

Everything CK is wearing in that picture screams "old era".

[Adenjo]

Issues with Welling.....

Welling DOES have the look. You could put him in the red,yellow and blue right now and he'd LOOK like Superman.

However, I watched the comic con interview footage a while ago and he was asked about Smallville and the bloke could talk about was the filming process.. Not one mention of how proud he was to be part of the Superman timeline.

And recently reported over at Superman homepage...
In the clip reel we just saw Clark is wearing a dark outfit with the Superman symbol on his chest. What's that all about?
That is the symbol of the House of El. I've gotten away for many years with the blue t-shirt and the red jacket. Very easy wardrobe for me, very simple, straightforward, very comfortable. This new wardrobe, the leather jacket is a little warmer, you have to learn how to not step on your jacket when you're in a fight sequence. You learn that pretty quick - it doesn't take many times before you figure that out! Anyway, he's trying to establish a call sign for himself. Even though Clark isn't putting his own face out there it's his way of taking accountability for what he's doing.


Still no hint of pride about Superman.. it's just a role.. A job. There's no love there people.

Now whenever Routh is asked about the man of steel you can practically see the pride/love ooze out of him.

Being Superman isn't about just wearing a costume on screen.. When you take on the role you take on the persona.


End of rant. Thanks for listening :)

[cin0]

i guess u never saw him when he was bein interviewed about meeting christopher reeve and any of his commentaries on the dvd's.

[cin0]

Tyler Hoechlin

22 years old and 6ft 1inc

Does not look like Reeve, but does look like Superman.

http://content5.catalog.photos.msn.com/ft/share0/6ec1/0/5673008.jpg


why does everybody keep chooseing actors that are barely in there twenties to play superman. they still look like teenagers, IMO no one under the age of 25 should be cast as superman. dean cain almost wasnt even cast as clark when he auditioned for "Lois & Clark" and he was 26, but they thought he looked too boyish. if a superman movie he still wouldnt have even started workin at the daily planet untill he was about 24 or 25. he doesnt look like superman to me, he looks more like a young clark.

[Webhead2006]

that is a problem there some folks who are at that age of 18-24 yrs old can usually still have that boyish look to them. But then we get folks like Chris reeve who was 24 if i recall right and he had that more mature look on him. So even if someone was say 22-24 yrs old hopefully they would have that more mature look in them. I agree i do want to see a mature looking guy for superman, but we do have to remember they will probably as we know want to be looking at someone 22-33 in range cause all the studios love to have younger guys they can hold on to for like 6-9 yrs for a series of pictures.

[ScottishFogg]

Martin Sheen
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2489/perry.jpg



Wow . . . Anyone else think Martin Sheen could make a great "Kingdom Come" Superman?

[Webhead2006]

i think he would be better for perry, dan turpin, or even pa kent.

[cin0]

that is a problem there some folks who are at that age of 18-24 yrs old can usually still have that boyish look to them. But then we get folks like Chris reeve who was 24 if i recall right and he had that more mature look on him. So even if someone was say 22-24 yrs old hopefully they would have that more mature look in them. I agree i do want to see a mature looking guy for superman, but we do have to remember they will probably as we know want to be looking at someone 22-33 in range cause all the studios love to have younger guys they can hold on to for like 6-9 yrs for a series of pictures.

yea, that would be better. but i think it would be hard to find someone that young that could still have that mature look. but if they can that would be perfect.

[Webhead2006]

Yea it is hard these days, when you are looking at most 20 something actors today most tend to have that youthful look in them. Though i am sure there is others out there in the age range who have that older/mature look but the young age.

[cin0]

so, far i havent heard that many people express how clark isnt even a character in the movies at all. if they do a movie they better give clark more to do than just bein clumsy and embarassin himself around lois. the only time ive ever seen clark as an actual character was when he was bein played by dean cain. that's how he should be portrayed rather than just bein the nerdy character that no one would expect to be superman. i know ive said this about a thousand times, but i dont think anyone is listenin at all.

[Webhead2006]

I agree there cin0 i would like to see good development from his superman side and his clark kent side. I too would like to drop the total nerd/clumsy take on clark. I am sure a good reason and storyline could be formed where clark is a normal guy, and the way he acts around dp folks, and what not can be very different then how he handles himself as superman. So really i guess i am more in the camp i would like clark kent be who he is really, and superman is just what he can do.

[ScottishFogg]

The problem with that is, "Clark Kent" is Kal-El's disguise. If Kal-El had no dual identity, he'd just be Superman. Maybe he doesn't have to be clumsy and nerdy, but he does have to be different than Superman. That's what keeps people from putting two and two together -- not the glasses. They see Superman and then they see Clark Kent and . . . well, "there's no way that guy could be that guy!"

[Frodo]

that is a problem there some folks who are at that age of 18-24 yrs old can usually still have that boyish look to them. But then we get folks like Chris reeve who was 24 if i recall right and he had that more mature look on him. So even if someone was say 22-24 yrs old hopefully they would have that more mature look in them. I agree i do want to see a mature looking guy for superman, but we do have to remember they will probably as we know want to be looking at someone 22-33 in range cause all the studios love to have younger guys they can hold on to for like 6-9 yrs for a series of pictures.

That's true. Even Routh got complaints about looking too young and he was 26 or 27 when he got the role . Looking back at Reeve in the first Superman, he does look quite young when you compare him to George Reeves a generation before.

[Webhead2006]

well he was young but i though looking at first reeve film he had that maturity to him.

[RachelDawes]

so, far i havent heard that many people express how clark isnt even a character in the movies at all. if they do a movie they better give clark more to do than just bein clumsy and embarassin himself around lois. the only time ive ever seen clark as an actual character was when he was bein played by dean cain. that's how he should be portrayed rather than just bein the nerdy character that no one would expect to be superman. i know ive said this about a thousand times, but i dont think anyone is listenin at all.

I'm listening, and I definitely want to see Clark as a competent reporter. Someone else said that even if Clark weren't a total klutz Lois wouldn't recognize him because she would insist that Superman was taller, handsomer, etc. I like that idea.

[Webhead2006]

totally its all on the writers how they want to have differences in how clark is clark at the daily planet, and then when he is superman.

[Superman_20]

Superman: Brandon Routh

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/3953/supermanbrandonwt1.jpg


Lois Lane: Evangeline Lilly

http://theaterofmine.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/evangeline-lilly-picture-2.jpg
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Perry White: Bruce McGill

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Lex Luthor: Christopher Waltz

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Jimmy Olsen: Shia LeBouf

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[Gamma Goliath]

i think i just threw up in mouth a little bit, lol not really

[Puckenstein]

I don't think Shia would "stoop" to playing Jimmy Olsen, so y'all should just get that out of your heads right now.

[Adenjo]

Personally I thought Sam Huntingtons Jimmy was brilliant.
Why did that sound like a sexual innuendo?

Anyhow... I'd be gald to see Routh back as Superman (Rouths Superman and not him doing a Chris Reeve impression)
Huntington back as Jimmy Olson.

Lois Lane - Zooey Deschanel
Lex Luthor - Bruce Willis
Perry White - Anthony Hopkins
Jonothan kent - Kurt Russell
Martha kent - Goldie Hawn

More to follow.....

[Webhead2006]

Well with the no plans going on right now, its likely another peg in SR cast isnt likely going to see the light of day in another film. If anything does happen in next few years its most likely going to be a total clean slating of everything. But who knows what is going to happen.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Shut the forum down at this point. :down

[Lucid]

Wow, after reading a few pages of this thread I'm really glad fans aren't in control of casting. I'm starting to think Bryan Singer didn't do such a s**tty job. Oh wait, yes he did, but the funny thing is that his cast would fit right in here with all these other random fantasy casting choices that don't work and don't go together.

My advice to fans would be to be far more thoughtful and meticulous in your casting choices. Who is 100% ideal, not just who "kinda works"? Who emits every single quality down to the detail that the character requires? And chemistry is also huge. If Henry Cavill is your Superman, you're probably going to want a different Lois than if Michael Trucco is your Superman. The same actress isn't going to match with both those guys and vice versa.

Also, this is the REBOOT casting thread, not the "Let's go down the list and post every actor who was in Superman Returns" thread. Oh, and that goes for Smallville as well. We get it. You don't have a fraction of originality in your bones. You're not an individual. You think that whoever some apathetic casting director in the valley cast as Clark Kent on a CW tv show so that they could just get their paycheck and get the hell out of the office that evening and see their kids, is actually the best person for the role. I feel very very sorry for you, but please leave this thread to those with some imagination.

While I'm ranting, Shia LaBeouf is not going to play Jimmy Olsen. He's an A-list movie star now, he's not going to do some 3rd rate part in a movie. I know this is a "fantasy" casting thread, but can we aim for even a sliver of reality?

I know this is all just fun and games and this post is pretty negative, I'm sorry, but these last few pages of casting were so flagrantly egregious that I couldn't help but post. Just so this post isn't all negative, props to Ursa and Eddie Dean. Your casts are pretty damn good.

Oh, and by the way, the whole "Cavill is too young" debate is so 2004. Haven't we all seen him in Whatever Works? He looks like this now:

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1867/whateverworks9.jpg

[RachelDawes]

^Wouldn't it be something if Cavill were too old now? If the next movie is a decade or so away WB might want to cast a bit younger for the part.

[Frodo]

Well ,Even if they started casting tomorrow there's no guarantee Cavill would get or want the role .I think he'd be good but that's just me.

[Webhead2006]

yea if the next film isnt likely to be to 5-7 years from now if they are truly waiting to get all the drama settled, we would probably want to be looking at actors who are late teens-25 years old currently.

[Adenjo]

Oh, and by the way, the whole "Cavill is too young" debate is so 2004. Haven't we all seen him in Whatever Works? He looks like this now:

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1867/whateverworks9.jpg

He's still only 6ft tall.. And looks like his nose has been broken at least once....

[Lucid]

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[sithgoblin]

I like you, Lucid.

[Lucid]

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[Webhead2006]

i never had an issue with cavill myself, i agree he has a good superman look to him, he is in a good height range, could probably easily bulk up and get into the right body for the role. As for his acting well myself i never really seen anything of his work. I might try to in near future to judge him more fairly and all that. But in the end like someone said before at this rate we we will likely not see a film to the earliest 2014/2015 so year another 5-7 years from now. If things cant get settled before 2011/2013 issues still in place. So cavill/boomer/welling/routh and all the others we all have talked about wanting to be in the role will likely then be over the age wb would want then. If its a reboot and new beginings deal. Its sad some guys we all like like the ones above or others i cant even think about right now who currently are in the right age will likely be out if it is another 5+ years wait.

[Adenjo]

Dude, did you step out of a time machine? These are the same old tired, phantom criticisms. First, he's 6'1". Considering that they made Meryl Streep look 6'5" in Julie & Julia, I don't think 1-2 inches between Henry Cavill and the "ideal" is a problem. If you look in the dictionary under the word "nitpick" it says: Adenjo.

And second, I agree that his nose did used to look a little weird back when he was 20 years old and the casting wars were on, but he's grown into his face as he's aged and I haven't noticed anything weird with his nose in recent photos (like in the above photo his nose looks perfect, far better than Routh's giant schnoz) or especially in movies, which I might add is what you have to watch him in to gauge his Superman-ness. It's a world of difference. That's what convinced me that he is perfect for Superman. I saw a few photos and I thought, "Eh, just another pretty boy candidate," and then I saw him in live action and I thought, "Holy God, it's Superman!" Watch Woody Allen's Whatever Works when it comes out on DVD. You'll be convinced.




1. Did I step out of a time machine? It's not me refering to people as "dude" :D

2. Yes the arguments about Cavill have been circulating since the beginnings of time... But so have the Cavill supporters and their blind allegiance to Henry "always the bridesmaid never the bride" Cavill.

3. Actually in the dictionary under "nitpick" it says to be excessively concerned with or critical of inconsequential details. .. Thing is, I don't see a bloke who not tall enough to play the Superman as being "inconsequential".

4. Lifts in the shoes is cheating. Superman shouldn't cheat.

5. Yes I know he can't really fly and that by flying using SFX is cheating.

6. But now who's nit picking? :D


All joking aside, I saw Cavill in a few episodes of the Tudors.. I wasn't impressed to be honest.. I watched the show inorder to see if he had the presence of Superman and sadly IMO he didn't.
Same goes for Bomer, I love the show Chuck and thought he was cool in it.. But he just lacked the height AND the presence of Superman.
Welling has the presence.. So does Routh..
But if we are looking at filming 5 years down the line lets be realistic we're looking at an actor who we've probably not even seen act yet.

[GreenKToo]

Anybody else think its odd that the next time we see a superman film, it COULD be at a different studio? Thats not likely of course, just saying.....

[Webhead2006]

that is possible if things do go very south with the families and wb/dc. But then the families would only have certain aspects of superman right like only 60ish% of what makes him superman. Would you really want to see a 60% superman "running" around at sony/universal/paramount/etc.....

[Timstuff]

Thank you Lucid! I am sick of hearing people demand that the actor be exactly Superman's canon height. Cavill is only off by 2 inches, and it's easy to fake the rest. It's not like with Sam Worthington where his supporters wanted him to wear 5" lifts so he could play Captain America. Cavill is already tall enough that he could easily play Superman with little to no Hollywood height correction trickery.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Give me a ****in break. There's a canon height? Sweet Jesus, whatever happened to using camera tricks? Made Angus Scrim the Tall Man in four Phantasm films (first two awesomeness, the last two crap) to great affect.

[solidsnake86]

Cavill reminds me of the kubert superman action figure from last son, especially the hair. As for the height issue, leave it to us to bicker about a persons height. Being six feet is already tall enough, in the end 2 or three inches in the real world is nothing and no one will be able to tell when watching the film. If they found an actor who looks and can act the part but is not up to the canon height they going to cast them regardless of what we say.

[Timstuff]

The thing is, it's an easy way to automatically disqualify a lot of people. Some people just say "Oh, this actor is not 6' 3", so they can't possibly play Superman" and then eliminate tons of candidates just like that. And it just so happens that Brandon Routh is 6' 3", so this imaginary 6' 3" "requirement" is suspiciously convenient. :o

If Brandon Routh and Henry Cavill were walking down the street, you would not be able to tell the difference in their height. The taller a person is, the less noticeable a mere 2 inches is going to be. They would have to both be standing upright, back to back, and wearing the same kind of shoe for anyone to really notice IRL.

[solidsnake86]

In batman begins everyone looks like they are towering over bale, was he not supposed to be cast as batman.

Although Timstuff I don't think people are using this requirement to pimp routh for the character, thats stretching it a little bit. Really its in the context of the film. Say that justice league movie went forward with the guy playing batman being 6,5" and the guy playing superman being 5,8". Thats questionable especially since cotrona was a big guy to begin with.

[FilmNerdJamie]

In regards to the height issue, I have two words: Daniel Craig. He's the shortest of the 007s at 5'10" and yet the over-whelming consensus is he's second only to Connery.

[Alonsovich]

Are we really talking about casting something that is possibly at least half a decade or more away?:o

The next Supes could very well be right out of high school in this very same moment and still not know if he wants to take a shot at acting...

[Webhead2006]

Yea if its another 5-7 years we are probably looking at guys who are either 20 yrs old right now, or just about 25 yrs old now. But height wise yea i see no problem with being at 6'0 ft tall I would even take 5'11 at the shortest end for requirement. As long as they are not way to short, and lifts are not to visable on the guy if needed.

[Webhead2006]

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[Webhead2006]

Triple post

[Frodo]

The height issue aside , the issue becomes whether Cavill would even want the role to begin with . He may not want to be tied down by Superman. And he may be considered too old by the time the next Superman goes into production anyway. I tend to think the next actor to play Supes won't be someone we've heard . Right now the issue is moot since we won't be getting a Superman film for quite some time , but I think he'd be ok.

[Adenjo]

The next Supes could very well be right out of high school in this very same moment and still not know if he wants to take a shot at acting...
That's a great comment :up:

[Webhead2006]

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[Webhead2006]

at the rate things are going its probably going to be someone we dont know about yet, or a rising star right now who hasnt hit it big yet. So if it is only another 5-7 years to we get another film and we knowing they will probably want someone within a 25-33year old range, We will probably have to look into someone who is between 17-at most 25 years old currently.

So with that is there any decent talents in the 17-25 pool that any one knows.

[Timstuff]

Who cares, I'm not looking that far ahead. I want to see a Superman film in production by the 2011 court deadline, so I'm going to continue looking at actors who would be the right age in 2011. I'm not going to assume the movie will be made in 10 years, go through a list of Disney Channel castoffs and then assume they'll look like Superman in 10 years. If we're going to stoop that low, we might as well not even bother with actual names and just post pictures of what we would like the actor to look like.

[Adenjo]

go through a list of Disney Channel castoffs and then assume they'll look like Superman in 10 years.
many a true word spoken in jest my friend...

we might as well not even bother with actual names and just post pictures of what we would like the actor to look like.
it's one way of doing it :)

[Webhead2006]

Yes it would be great if things could get settled in the coming year between the siegels and wb and wb can get something going by the court 2011 deadline. Cause really it would be another blow for wb right to loose the film rights correct? Cause wouldnt even when the shuster's heirs come into play in 2013 to retain other aspects to the copyright. If wb could hold onto the film rights the families would still if they wanted a film done have to go through them? So it would be a prime barging chip for wb to keep right?

[Nightwing1977]

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Steve

Not bad at all. Keep up the good work. :)

Wow . . . Anyone else think Martin Sheen could make a great "Kingdom Come" Superman?

Too short. He's like 5' 7". I know old people shrink with age, but Supes can't shrink that short!! :wow: :wow:

[willemjoker]

I'd like to throw Eion Bailey's name back into the ring:

http://www.hbo.com/films/panchovilla/img/castandcrew/506x315_elon_bailey.jpg
http://www.nndb.com/people/175/000107851/eion-bailey-2-sized.jpg
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[Rodrigo90]

Corey Sevier as Superman/Clark Kent
Eliza Dushku as Lois Lane
Clive Owen as Lex Luthor
Robert De'Niro as Perry White
Jamie Bell as Jimmy Olsen
Gerard Butler as Zod
Jim Caviezel as Jor-El
Rachel Weisz as Lara-El
Dennis Quaid as Jonathon Kent
Sigourney Weaver as Martha Kent
Daniel Craig as James Corbern/Metallo

[JBElliott]

The best bet would be to find an unknown with the build and look and presence of Clint Walker and who can act.

[SuperMike335!!]

The best bet would be to find an unknown with the build and look and presence of Clint Walker and who can act.


Right, there are so many actors to pick from, including a massive talent pool of unknowns just waiting for a chance, I think the only real issue is to just have the right criteria to narrow down the field with.

I am onboard with finding someone like Walker. Had he been born in 1977, instead of 1927, I would say cast him right now.

As it is, I suggest finding someone similar. Chances are there are a dozen unknown guys who look like him and would jump at the chance, then narrow down the field from there on acting talent, or ability to pull off a Superman and Clark type of characters.

I don’t think we are going to discover someone here ourselves this time. Mostly because there is not such a uniform idea of what superman should be like as say, Batman.

It seems there is more a general consensus (not everyone, but a higher percentage) among Batman fans, and a large number came together picking Bale.

This time I don’t see that happening with Superman. Mostly because many fans have a diametrically different view of what Superman ought to be like.

I doubt we will be all pointing in general consensus at one actor enough for WB to cast him.

The best we can really hope to do is make suggestions for the criteria.

I think someone who is much like Walker was in his 30’s, during the TV show run of Cheyenne would be perfect.

The goal for WB should be to find a modern version of him, who can act.

[-JKR-]

Already opened a thread for this in the Misc. Superman Films section, but YEAH... I wanna shock you! That's what a Superman reboot in the late '90s would have looked like!

The japanese fansite timburton.jp (http://www.timburton.jp/movies/supermanlives/090921costumetest.php) has leaked an images of what seems to be Nic Cage during his costume test for Tim Burton's Superman Lives. I warn you, keep away children and pregnant women:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3061/cagesuperman.jpg

[-JKR-]

They also got some concept art and stuff of how Braniac would have been like. Well, there's Jon Peters' spider!

-ABWwAwl1hE&feature=related

[SuperMike335!!]

This:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3061/cagesuperman.jpg






= This:


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[B]

Usually I'd say thats an overstatement, but in this case..its very accurate

It just puts things into perspective doesn't it on how lucky we have been with both Superman Returns & Smallville..

Its not that hard to believe if that is in fact genuine when you consider the model Burton released with the Superman Lives costume & the promotional art that surfaced as well..

I dread to think how, even a finished/movie ready rubber suit like that would have looked on screen..

[RachelDawes]

That Nicholas Cage picture is one of the ugliest things I've ever seen. If that movie had been made I think Superman would've been done on the big screen forever.

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[sammall]

That Nicholas Cage picture is one of the ugliest things I've ever seen. If that movie had been made I think Superman would've been done on the big screen forever.

Funny .. :hehe:
It does seem weird, but I guess that is Tim Burton's style.

[Kal-El Fan]

That looks like Cage's head manipped onto an action figure especially when you watch the "video."

[Webhead2006]

woah if that really was what cage would have worn if that burton superman film happen that would have been nuts. As to what you said super mike i agree with you. This time around things need to be done differently for casting superman.

[Kal-El Fan]

If it's real, I'm sure it was just a "proto-suit" to figure out the sculpt, design, etc. This looks to be the Superman Lives equivalent of Reeve's screen test suit.

[Webhead2006]

what did reeve's screen test suit look like?

[Kal-El Fan]

It was thrown together really fast. It looked like a cheap homemade Halloween costume.
You can see it here: http://www.capedwonder.com/newwebsite/images/CW-STM-Reeve-screentest-01.jpg

[Webhead2006]

thanks for the link man, i heard over the years about his screen test but i doubt recall ever seeing it. As fir that test suit it does look pretty cheap but things were diffent then in the 70s. I do like the S shield/cape, its the belt that looks really bad in that.

[what_19]

It was thrown together really fast. It looked like a cheap homemade Halloween costume.
You can see it here: http://www.capedwonder.com/newwebsite/images/CW-STM-Reeve-screentest-01.jpg


i think this is a great example of a piece of "clay" that ended up being molded into a great superman...look how skinny the guy looks! he is sweating in the pits! and yet he turned out to be what most of us consider a perfect superman prototype....

yeh i know, not for everybody, but for a lot he is the perfect superman, looks wise at least....

and for the above, i agree nic cage would have been horrible...but maybe it would have been the shakeup that supes needs to get him back in the publics eye...relevant again...

alot of people were against burtons batman, and look where we are now.

i'm basically just saying that posting random pics of people who should be supes doesnt mean jack ****...it comes down to that person not only training for supes, but actually giving a damn about the character.

if they announced that chris reeve, as he looked in that pic, was cast for supes, can you imagine the ****storm that would have rained for the next 18 months?

[I SEE SPIDEY]

That Cage pic is awful but I'm still not thanking my lucky stars I got Superman Returns and Smallville. The first two or the seasons of Smallville were fine but thats about it.

[elgaz]

Issues with Welling.....

Welling DOES have the look. You could put him in the red,yellow and blue right now and he'd LOOK like Superman.

However, I watched the comic con interview footage a while ago and he was asked about Smallville and the bloke could talk about was the filming process.. Not one mention of how proud he was to be part of the Superman timeline.

And recently reported over at Superman homepage...
In the clip reel we just saw Clark is wearing a dark outfit with the Superman symbol on his chest. What's that all about?
That is the symbol of the House of El. I've gotten away for many years with the blue t-shirt and the red jacket. Very easy wardrobe for me, very simple, straightforward, very comfortable. This new wardrobe, the leather jacket is a little warmer, you have to learn how to not step on your jacket when you're in a fight sequence. You learn that pretty quick - it doesn't take many times before you figure that out! Anyway, he's trying to establish a call sign for himself. Even though Clark isn't putting his own face out there it's his way of taking accountability for what he's doing.


Still no hint of pride about Superman.. it's just a role.. A job. There's no love there people.

Now whenever Routh is asked about the man of steel you can practically see the pride/love ooze out of him.

Being Superman isn't about just wearing a costume on screen.. When you take on the role you take on the persona.


End of rant. Thanks for listening :)

Wow .... talk about taking things out of context. That was one interview about a character he has devoted almost a decade to, it's bit much to assume he's going to be gushing with pride at every opportunity. Sometimes they simply answer the questions that are put to them.

For what it's worth, there are numerous interviews with other cast members on Smallville where they mention how dedicated Welling is, how he has a lot of input to the writing/stories so that Clark is portrayed the right way, how he respects the character and tries to play with him with a certain dignity, etc. He may not boast about his pride in interviews, but the man has been playing the Clark Kent role for longer than anyone else ever has - and is still making a big effort to further it.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Corey Sevier as Superman/Clark Kent
Eliza Dushku as Lois Lane
Clive Owen as Lex Luthor
Robert De'Niro as Perry White
Jamie Bell as Jimmy Olsen
Gerard Butler as Zod
Jim Caviezel as Jor-El
Rachel Weisz as Lara-El
Dennis Quaid as Jonathon Kent
Sigourney Weaver as Martha Kent
Daniel Craig as James Corbern/MetalloAre you joking? I mean I hate to be an A-hole but that is one terrible choice.

[dark_b]

Already opened a thread for this in the Misc. Superman Films section, but YEAH... I wanna shock you! That's what a Superman reboot in the late '90s would have looked like!i think the reaction from everyone here is
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3686/287hx8ojpg.gif (http://img225.imageshack.us/i/287hx8ojpg.gif/)

we all expected bad. but i think noone even in their nightmares expected this. this is really the worst possible costume ever. everything is wrong. everything.


i know that its supposed to be a test. but why does he have long hair? was this in the time when he filmed conair?

[dark_b]

That looks like Cage's head manipped onto an action figure especially when you watch the "video."he is wearing a muscle suit. he would have to have a lot of make up around the neck so that they would combine the fake muscles with hes real neck. since its so open.

[SuperMike335!!]

look how skinny the guy looks! he is sweating in the pits! and yet he turned out to be what most of us consider a perfect superman prototype....

yeh i know, not for everybody, but for a lot he is the perfect superman, looks wise at least....

if they announced that chris reeve, as he looked in that pic, was cast for supes, can you imagine the ****storm that would have rained for the next 18 months?

To me Reeve was Really Really good. Clint Walker would have been 100% perfect, but he was born 30 years too soon at that time.

You hit the nail on the head in saying that Someone needs to get in shape for the role. Reeve added 45 pounds of muscle, literally in less than 6 months before filming.

He hired David Prowse to help get him in shape for the role.
These days however, we do need an actor to be "closer" to the kind of shape Superman was in than Reeve was, as for legal reasons, there is no way another actor is going to gain more than 10 pounds of muscle, tops, in less than 6 months.

There is a very good reason for this. You see, to get in shape for the role, Reeve ate, slept, trained, and lived bodybuilding. He did everything, working with Prowse an expert at the time, that any competative bodybuilder would do.

That includes Androgenic Anabolic Steroids. I’m ok saying it. Reeve did not just use AAS and sit on the couch, he worked his butt off and ate like an animal to gain muscle. He went from 6’4.5" tall and only 175 pounds, all the way up to 220 by the time of filming SM1. He actually got up to around 235 by the time of SM3.

Anyhow, the initial gain in muscle of anyone who starts bodybuilding, and has never touched a dumbbell before is going to be big, but to quantify that "big", 10 pounds of muscle in under 6 months is huge, even for a beginner. Usually beginners gain a lot of muscle early one, but nobody gains 45 pounds that fast. Not unless they meet all of 3 criteria.

Being a beginner. That means their body will naturally be able to gain muscle easily, as they are no-where close to their genetic limit for lean body weight.
The person works their butt off and does everything right. We are talking 1-2 solid hours in the gym every day with an expert coach, hardcore training. They get plenty of sleep, and eat a high protein meal every 3 hours.
The person also is using AAS, properly dosed and working with a doctor to monitor for side effects.
In the case of Reeve, that was 1978. Anabolic Steroids did not even become a schedule 3 substance in the united states until 1990, with the ASCA being passed in 1989. Back in 1978, every bodybuilder was using them, and the first thing Prowse likely did was get Reeve started on a vitamin and supplement program, which likely would have at the least included Methandrostenolone (Dianabol).

Granted, I am not accusing Reeve of anything immoral. One it was his body after all, and Two it was perfectly legal back then. Dianabol was just nicknamed "supervitamins", everyone who knew what barbell was took them.

Now I am not saying that it isn’t possible for someone to get as big as Reeve was in build, at his height, or even bigger natural.

In Clint Walker’s prime he was more impressively built than Reeve ever was. The thing is, Walker was athletic and involved in bodybuilding for many years (albeit long before steroids were in circulation). Clint did not build his physique virtually over night like Reeve did either.

It would have been possible for Reeve to get as big as he got without steroids, most natural guys can achieve that look easily, but it just ain’t possible to go from 175 natural to 220 natural in under 6 months without AAS.

That is why I say the next actor needs to be closer to the build Reeve Already had for SM3 by casting time. Because AAS will not be an available tool for them the way it was in Reeve’s era. Without them, a guy who has no previous training could gain maybe only 10-15 pounds of muscle, tops, in under 6 months.

Now, it is nothing new for Actors to get a hookup with AAS the way they do with many other drugs, I just preffer they not have to go that route.

[RachelDawes]

i know that its supposed to be a test. but why does he have long hair? was this in the time when he filmed conair?

I think it was planned for Superman to have long hair to make him more goth. In a test video made for some WB executives, Cage was described as wearing a black suit with a silver S and having long, stringy hair like Burton's.

[SuperMike335!!]

I think it was planned for Superman to have long hair to make him more goth. In a test video made for some WB executives, Cage was described as wearing a black suit with a silver S and having long, stringy hair like Burton's.

That's the big problem with Burton, he "Burtons" everything.
For some stuff it is fun, others, it is the absolute wrong feel for the material.

Studio executives do not always have a good feel for characters, often they do not.

This is an example of wag the dog with the tail. The executives think that because he did good work on Batman, that he would have been good at any other Superhero, so why not Superman?

The problem is that they did not know which end the dog was on. Burton did good with Batman, because Batman is a dark character, who exists in a Dark environment, with Dark rouges. Creepy is great for them.

Other elements work too, such as having a stylized rubber suit for Batman, at that time. Makes sense, as Batman himself is not bullet proof, and the rubber may have been an expensive body armor.

It worked because the subject matter worked for Burton, but
waging the dog with the tail was the assumption that any Superhero would be suited to Burton, since he did good with one superhero genre.

We do not need them to try and find at tested hand at the superhero genre, as any other director may have just been suited to that other superhero.

Rather we should have a director who understands the strong male hero action genre, that Superman fits into.

[SuperMike335!!]

The problem with that is, "Clark Kent" is Kal-El's disguise. If Kal-El had no dual identity, he'd just be Superman. Maybe he doesn't have to be clumsy and nerdy, but he does have to be different than Superman. That's what keeps people from putting two and two together -- not the glasses. They see Superman and then they see Clark Kent and . . . well, "there's no way that guy could be that guy!"

Yes, he does have to be different than Superman. I agree, not overly clumsy or nerdy, but less vocal than Superman.

What keeps people from putting two and two together, is that Superman does not wear a mask.

There is no looking for a secret identity if no one even thinks there is one.
He has no expensive gadgets to pay for, no sidekicks, no liabilities other than kryptonite.

Now Batman is a guy who people would look for. The stuff he has looks costly, and he wears a mask. Someone like that will have people trying to put two and two together.

In Clark/Superman's case, no sees anything other than a fulltime superhero.

Clark exists so that Superman can live a normal life. If he has to be so over the top dork/nerd that he is a social reject, what is the point?
I do think that Clark would act different than Superman. Clark would act more normal. Superman is in some ways more over the top, very bold, very outspoken.

Think STAS superman compared to Clark. One is rather outspoken, very bold, they other is more in the background. Not over the top nerd, but just less outspoken, stands with a more relaxed posture, reports and is proactive, but not reactive. Reactive is Superman.

Clark is a normal person. Tall and broad shouldered, but he’s also a big farm kid from a small town in the big city. He has glasses, but that is just a bit of a throw off.

Even if someone notices the similarity, it wont matter. He could even claim to be superman, and people at the daily planet would laugh at him.

The biggest thing that hides Clark, is that nobody is looking. They assume Superman is Superman, all the time.

[Webhead2006]

By that cage pic is crazy and all that. I said that last night when it was out. Crazy they were really going to go with that before the film was pulled. Also interesting factors supermike on bodybuilding and all that.

[Webhead2006]

Those are some good points supermike about clark and superman personas. I still in mindset i want clark to be the real person, and superman is the disguise.

[Nightwing1977]

Already opened a thread for this in the Misc. Superman Films section, but YEAH... I wanna shock you! That's what a Superman reboot in the late '90s would have looked like!

Thank godness that one never took off. While I know many dislike SR, but at least Superman in that film look like Superman than what Burton was going to do with Cage as Supes. :wow:

[SuperMike335!!]

Those are some good points supermike about clark and superman personas. I still in mindset i want clark to be the real person, and superman is the disguise.

Absolutely.

Clark is a normal person, and the real person.

If a real person tried what superman does, they would get shot and die.

Hence the Superman persona.

It lets him do what he does, and in doing so he isn't a normal person as Superman. He does not want to live as superman fulltime, and that is because he sees himself as Clark.

[dark_b]

if Kent is the real person then he can not act shy and geeky. because he isnt right?

[Rodrigo90]

Are you joking? I mean I hate to be an A-hole but that is one terrible choice.

I still prefer Sam Worthington for Superman.

But people complain that he is too small and he doesnt sound good as an American (Which he doesnt). But cmon. Better than Nic Cage right?

[nintendo nerd]

I still prefer Sam Worthington for Superman.

But people complain that he is too small and he doesnt sound good as an American (Which he doesnt). But cmon. Better than Nic Cage right?

There are dozens of people who are better than Nic Cage. And Worthington doesn't look like Superman.

[MAN O STEEL]

if Kent is the real person then he can not act shy and geeky. because he isnt right?


Wrong. To me Clark kent, The real persona inhibits, like all ppl, 3 sides to himself. A geeky side, which everyone has, a heroic side & a dark side. These are all human, natural qualities. When you see Clark on the farm, he exhibits all of these qualities & more i.e fear, sadness happiness etc etc. Only when he's CK at the planet he uses part of his shy, geeky persona to blend into background & seem even less like someone who could be a Superman. When he's Superman he exhibits, the heroic, strong, silent part of his true persona & inforces it to a point that he becomes a symbol, a myth that can't be hurt, that never faulters or fails. In reality, to answer your question as short as possible, Clark can act geeky & shy because he, much like all humans exhibits many qualities. Were all shy, geeky, strong, heroic, selfish, mean, kind etc etc.




Steve

[Rodrigo90]

There are dozens of people who are better than Nic Cage. And Worthington doesn't look like Superman.

I think he does. Especially the early years of the comics.

[Webhead2006]

I do like burton's film and would have been interesting to see what he would have done. But i agree with films nic is a decent actor, just not the right type for superman.

[Webhead2006]

Wrong. To me Clark kent, The real persona inhibits, like all ppl, 3 sides to himself. A geeky side, which everyone has, a heroic side & a dark side. These are all human, natural qualities. When you see Clark on the farm, he exhibits all of these qualities & more i.e fear, sadness happiness etc etc. Only when he's CK at the planet he uses part of his shy, geeky persona to blend into background & seem even less like someone who could be a Superman. When he's Superman he exhibits, the heroic, strong, silent part of his true persona & inforces it to a point that he becomes a symbol, a myth that can't be hurt, that never faulters or fails. In reality, to answer your question as short as possible, Clark can act geeky & shy because he, much like all humans exhibits many qualities. Were all shy, geeky, strong, heroic, selfish, mean, kind etc etc.




Steve
I agree there, we totally need to see the clark kent side more in future films. He was raised as a human and has human thoughts, and emotions that help shaped him into the man he becomes.

[SuperMike335!!]

if Kent is the real person then he can not act shy and geeky. because he isnt right?


Well sure he can be.

It is HOW geeky is he? Quantify nerd. To some extant we are all nerds (I imagine the forum has more than its fair share, and I am one of them too).

Not Geeky and nerdy to the point that is over the top like the Donner Superman.

He would not be the extrovert that Lois & Clark TV show had.
Somewhere in-between, my favorite was the STAS characterization for Clark. They got it right.

That version was a bit of a nerd, and geeky too.

He had a bit of naiveté in being the Big Farm kid out of place in the fast paced big city as well.

Suffice to say that the personality of Clark and Superman was not exactly the same, but they were not polar opposites either. One is more reserved, and he can be sort of nerdy, while Superman is outspoken and Bold.

The extent of difference does not mean that Clark needs to be over the top nerd or geek to the point that he now seems out of place all together as a journalist in a hard hitting Newspaper office.

[Rodrigo90]

http://sparklingwhine.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/eliza-dushku-2009-fox-upfronts-09.jpg

Eliza as Lois Lane 100%

[MAN O STEEL]

Eliza Dushku looks like an ageing, reformed crackwhore in that pic. I'll pass.





Steve

[Rodrigo90]

Its not just the looks. She has the attitude and charisma as Lois.

[elgaz]

I'll pass also, yes she's a brunette, slim and attractive etc - but she just doesn't have that Lois quality I think.

[SuperMike335!!]

Opinions likely vary as much on Lois as they do on Superman, and lex for that matter but I really do like Erica Durance as Lois.

I may be the only person on earth with this opinion, likely as I have not read it anywhere, but I never felt Tom Welling as the Adult Superman, while at the same time liking Erica Durance as Lois.

Even though Tom is actaully an adult, he just seems "teenager" or boyish to me. Not that youth is really the issue, it is just that he seems less Masculine than what I expect for Superman.

Maybe because I have the idea of Superman being like Clint Walker in his pirme, and while Tom has similar feature, he sort of seems like the "Younger Brother Mervin" version.

Now the odd thing, is that I see Erica as a very good casting for Lois. She seems so much like an Adult Lois to me that I feel she seems out of place on the TV show, and would seem better as Lois in a Superman Movie.

If not her, another like her. To me she comes off as a strong bold woman, and not girly the way a lot of Lois actress suggestions feel.

[Webhead2006]

There is so many people to choose from. It should be interesting when another film goes where they will decide to go on.

[Gamma Goliath]

it sucks that they have no plan for supes, what does that mean for this place though?

[SuperMike335!!]

it sucks that they have no plan for supes, what does that mean for this place though?

People will still post.

Maybe it will be good for the people who have like 4000+ post a month.

They will have to get re-aclimated to sunlight.

[Webhead2006]

would have to talk to the mods to see if they want to keep it going for a few months or close it up.

[Kal-El Fan]

I think it was planned for Superman to have long hair to make him more goth. In a test video made for some WB executives, Cage was described as wearing a black suit with a silver S and having long, stringy hair like Burton's.
Superman would have had long hair in this film after his return from the dead, because that's what happened in the comics. At the time the comic came out, long hair was really "cool."

[RachelDawes]

Ah, so there was a comics base for that design choice. I thought it was just Burton being Burton. Good to know.

[Nightwing1977]

Like few others here said, pass on Eliza as Lois. She isn't a bad looking gal, but I just can't see her as Lois.

[cin0]

this might sound dumb but wat does stas stand for i tried to think about it but i dont know wat title that is.

[MAN O STEEL]

S.uperman

T.he

A.nimated

S.eries






Steve

[Webhead2006]

i could see her working, but i agree there is others i think that would be more suited for the role over eliza.

[mjbull23]

To me Reeve was Really Really good. Clint Walker would have been 100% perfect, but he was born 30 years too soon at that time.



You hit the nail on the head Mike. Clint Walker would have floored people with his almost identical resemblance to Superman. Reeve was an A- resemblance wise, I think Walker would have merited an A+ if he were around to play the role in this day and age.

[NotFadeAway]

Guys,


I think we should just cast Tim Tebow as Superman. I mean, he has already been called Superman by adoring fans, like Routh and Welling, and after the hit he took today, he might start thinking about life after football.

[Webhead2006]

who is he

[Nightwing1977]

who is he

He's a quarterback for the Florida Gators. Fade better be joking about him as Supes or else. :argh:

[NotFadeAway]

He's a quarterback for the Florida Gators. Fade better be joking about him as Supes or else. :argh:

Don't worry, I'm just messing around:cwink:

[Webhead2006]

ok thanks i was just wondering who he is. i dont really follow football myself.

[Rodrigo90]

http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/12499/sam_worthington.jpg
Superman

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_y2Pxq1jHI8A/STIl_F0DhpI/AAAAAAAACgY/ACV0JKNU9uA/s400/Eliza+Dushku+long+hairstyles.jpg[/quote]
Lois Lane

http://rookery2.viary.com/storagev12/1196000/1196292_c405_625x1000.jpg
Lex Luthor


http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_03/deniroG0205_468x506.jpg
Perry White

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/celeb/top_100/jamie_bell.jpg
Jimmy Olsen

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_QLewB1ym7VU/SXo3zKFQqLI/AAAAAAAAAdE/M_zJnZNn2Eg/s400/gerard_butler.jpg
General Zod

http://007vancouver.com/IMAGES/daniel_craig.jpg
Metallo

http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/96/27/0000039627_20070509163905.jpg
Supergirl

http://www.langthorneyouthfest.org.uk/images/adewale.jpg
Steel

[GreenKToo]

Clive needs a serious trim.

[Webhead2006]

some interesting pick there.

[NotFadeAway]

ok thanks i was just wondering who he is. i dont really follow football myself.

It's cool

Don't really like the guy myself, but alot of folks do. It's a situation I'm familiar with.

[NotFadeAway]

Watched the Smallville season premiere. WOW is all I have to say. Welling is not even trying anymore, that was as wooden as I have ever seen him, and it wasn't because of what there trying to do with the character. He was better in season one.

Actually, I don't even think the show itself is trying anymore. Horrid episode.

[Webhead2006]

well i thought it was an alright episode, but this isnt the place to talk about it. As for superman will be interesting to see what type of person they will go after next time around.

[FilmNerdJamie]

You'll have to excuse webhead. He's licking the wounds of Smallville tanking on Friday night (i.e. he's drinking the CW's official "It did better than wrestling did and thus it did awesome!" excuse/kool-aid).

Nonetheless, that doesn't change the fact that he's right. This isn't a thread about Smallville.

[redtail]

If we are looking for a new name for Superman/Clark, someone at bluetights mentioned Ethan Peck, the grandson of Gregory Peck. Six/one, black hair, really deep voice, decent frame for muscle, 23, and as good an actor, or better, than Welling or Routh. He also has some charisma, unlike Routh, and decent chemistry with his shows love interest, unlike Welling.

Just a thought

[RachelDawes]

^Just looked him up on imdb. I can definitely see Superman in him, but he also gives off a supervillain vibe.

[Webhead2006]

ah he is that dude in the ten things i hate about you tv show.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't see Superman in him at all.

[Young Superman]

Henry Cavill is my second choice for Superman
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/10959/supercavillve1.jpg

[Webhead2006]

thats a nice manip of him.

[Young Superman]

I found it on Google.

[Webhead2006]

i think it might have been posted here ages ago too.

[Young Superman]

That would explain why he looks sorta Superboyish in that manip.

[Timstuff]

Yeah, he's filled out a lot more since then.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/618/hen.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/hen.jpg/)


:up:

[KalMart]

Guys,


I think we should just cast Tim Tebow as Superman. I mean, he has already been called Superman by adoring fans, like Routh and Welling, and after the hit he took today, he might start thinking about life after football.

Former Giants backup QB Jesse Palmer


http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5491/p1palmer.jpghttp://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9571/040526palmer.jpg

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yeah, he's filled out a lot more since then.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/618/hen.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/hen.jpg/)


:up:My dream is to have him as Superman and Anne Hathaway as Lois.

It won't happen but a fangirl can dream.

[Nightwing1977]

My dream is to have him as Superman and Anne Hathaway as Lois.

It won't happen but a fangirl can dream.

Fangirl? I thought you're more of a fan. Fanboy/fangirl are the type that are too angry when things doesn't go their way & sometime bash other for not sharing their opinions or view. You're too goody good to be a fangirl, but a fan suit you fine.....I think. :D :D

[Timstuff]

Anne Hathaway is one of my top choices for Lois too. As for Cavill, I think we can count on the director and studio at least looking at him, seeing as he almost got the part in the past and he's the most persistent fan favorite who isn't Tom Welling or Brandon Routh.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Fangirl? I thought you're more of a fan. Fanboy/fangirl are the type that are too angry when things doesn't go their way & sometime bash other for not sharing their opinions or view. You're too goody good to be a fangirl, but a fan suit you fine.....I think. :D :DFair enough.:yay:

Question:

In your avatar, is that you with Rosario Dawson?

[Nightwing1977]

Question:

In your avatar, is that you with Rosario Dawson?



Yep!! You have to excuse how I open my mouth in the pic, since maybe the guy took the pic quick before I could smile right. But then, who wouldn't make a face like that when meeting Rosario & having his arm around her shoulder? :D :D

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yep!! You have to excuse how I open my mouth in the pic, since maybe the guy took the pic quick before I could smile right. But then, who wouldn't make a face like that when meeting Rosario & having his arm around her shoulder? :D :DYou have a bigger pic? Because I can hardly see anything.

[Jake Cassidy]

My dream is to have him as Superman and Anne Hathaway as Lois.

Me too. :woot:

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Me too. :woot::woot:

[Timstuff]

Here's something I made up about a year ago (before Michael Cera was in every movie and Joaquin Phoenix quit acting to become a Geico caveman):

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/Timstuff_photos/Supermancast3.jpg

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Here's something I made up about a year ago (before Michael Cera was in every movie and Joaquin Phoenix quit acting to become a Geico caveman):

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/Timstuff_photos/Supermancast3.jpgYour introduction to this post was dead on and funny as hell.

I would trade Urban for Michael Shannon and get rid of Cera because I'm tired of him but I like the rest.

[MAN O STEEL]

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6210/sivportrait3v2copy.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/sivportrait3v2copy.jpg/)





Steve

[Webhead2006]

some solid choices there timstuff.

[Timstuff]

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6210/sivportrait3v2copy.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/sivportrait3v2copy.jpg/)

Steve

Excellent!

[SuperMike335!!]

I find it interesting how much variance there is in what people think Superman would look like.

[Webhead2006]

Totally every one of us fans have different things we are looking for in the next person to be superman.

[Timstuff]

I don't really get why Sam Worthington always appears in casting threads like this. I mean, what has he been in besides Terminator Salvation that has earned him such a big following? :huh:

[FilmNerdJamie]

It's 100% because of the Cameron association imo. Look at Jessica Alba. Cameron "discovered" her for his series Dark Angel and everyone loved her. You'd swear people hated from Day One with how they act towards her now.

[Rodrigo90]

Everyone wanted him for Green Lantern.

Much more suited for the Man of Steel.

As I feel for Emily Blunts talents shouldnt go to waste and she would be good for Catwoman.

[dark_b]

It's 100% because of the Cameron association imo. Look at Jessica Alba. Cameron "discovered" her for his series Dark Angel and everyone loved her. You'd swear people hated from Day One with how they act towards her now.
i think people liked Alba because she was hot.

you know what i mean
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/4634/b692yq.gif (http://img121.imageshack.us/i/b692yq.gif/)

[NotFadeAway]

Here's something I made up about a year ago (before Michael Cera was in every movie and Joaquin Phoenix quit acting to become a Geico caveman):

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/Timstuff_photos/Supermancast3.jpg

I would be very happy with this cast. I do feel that if Cavill is Superman, Caviezel needs to be Jor-El. The two worked very well together in The Count of Monte Cristo.

I agree with Spidey about Cera. I'm already tired of his act.

[SuperMike335!!]

I'm not sold on Worthington as Superman, not yet anyway.

I think he would make a good Bizzaro.

He just comes off too much as an antihero thug to me.

That could be because he seems to give that so well in Terminator Salvation.

[RachelDawes]

I don't really get why Sam Worthington always appears in casting threads like this. I mean, what has he been in besides Terminator Salvation that has earned him such a big following? :huh:

He's been cast as a leading man in a lot of roles lately so everyone assumes there must be something to him.

[dark_b]

I'm sold on Worthington as Superman, not yet anyway.

I think he would make a good Bizzaro.

He just comes off too much as an antihero thug to me.

That could be because he seems to give that so well in Terminator Salvation. he will play something similar in Avatar.

[Brian2887]

Superman - Henry Cavill (The Tudors, Stardust, Whatever Works)
Brilliant young actor. 6'1, 26 years old. Has "super hero" written all over him.
http://hotcelebs.today.com/files/2009/02/henrycavillcb.jpg

Lois Lane - Michelle Monaghan (Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Eagle Eye, Mission Impossible III)
I've always thought Lois works better when she's a few years older than sweet naive Clark. Monaghan can play the jaded and mature, yet vulnerable reporter.
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/mission__impossible_iii/michelle_monaghan/missioniii1.jpg

Lex Luthor - Jon Hamm (Mad Men, The Day The Earth Stood Still)
I know he played Lex in a FunnyOrDie skit, but he'd kill the actual role. He could make Lex a threat in the board room or in a fist fight. Brilliant, sophisticated, suave, and tough.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2732523669_dd1b11abdf.jpg

Perry White - Martin Sheen (The West Wing, The Departed, American President)
No one better for the tough but fair boss.
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/dreamworks_skg/catch_me_if_you_can/martin_sheen/catch.jpg

Jimmy Olsen - Jesse Eisenberg (Adventureland, Zombieland, The Squid and the Whale)
Great at the young and innocent schtick.
http://www.zap2it.com/media/photo/2009-05/46815398.jpg?title=Jesse%20Eisenberg%20in%20%27Adv entureland%27

Metallo - Jeremy Renner (The Hurt Locker, 28 Weeks Later, S.W.A.T.)
Could bring real depth and menace to create a memorable and frightening villain.
http://blog.newsok.com/bamsblog/files/2009/07/jeremy-renner-hurt-locker-1.jpg

General Zod - Mark Strong (Sherlock Holmes, Kick-Ass, Body of Lies)
See Renner's description.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01152/arts-graphics-2004_1152510a.jpg

[elgaz]

Very good casting there - I especially like Mark Strong as Zod.

My only gripe (and this goes with a lot of other casting choices in this thread) is Jimmy Olsen - IMO he should come across as a young and immature character, but not necessarily a kid as such. Some of the choices for Olsen are very young - think of his portrayal in the '78 film.

[Nightwing1977]

I don't really get why Sam Worthington always appears in casting threads like this. I mean, what has he been in besides Terminator Salvation that has earned him such a big following? :huh:

Funny, but this is how I see the same with Cavill too. Beside that tv show, I don't know what else he did that scream Supes. Not to mention he isn't American. I felt a 100% American should play Supes.

[Brian2887]

Very good casting there - I especially like Mark Strong as Zod.

My only gripe (and this goes with a lot of other casting choices in this thread) is Jimmy Olsen - IMO he should come across as a young and immature character, but not necessarily a kid as such. Some of the choices for Olsen are very young - think of his portrayal in the '78 film.

While Eisenberg has played a lot of kids, he's actually 25, a year younger than Cavill. He could play Olsen either like a part time college kid or like a photographer with a couple years under his belt.

[Brian2887]

I felt a 100% American should play Supes.

I disagree completely. I almost would rather have Cavill played by a foreign actor. America is Superman's adopted home., so a briton or an aussie might add a layer to the performance.

[batman44]

Love the cast Brian2887, no complaints.

[Gamma Goliath]

Superman - Henry Cavill (The Tudors, Stardust, Whatever Works)
Brilliant young actor. 6'1, 26 years old. Has "super hero" written all over him.
http://hotcelebs.today.com/files/2009/02/henrycavillcb.jpg

Lois Lane - Michelle Monaghan (Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Eagle Eye, Mission Impossible III)
I've always thought Lois works better when she's a few years older than sweet naive Clark. Monaghan can play the jaded and mature, yet vulnerable reporter.
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/mission__impossible_iii/michelle_monaghan/missioniii1.jpg

Lex Luthor - Jon Hamm (Mad Men, The Day The Earth Stood Still)
I know he played Lex in a FunnyOrDie skit, but he'd kill the actual role. He could make Lex a threat in the board room or in a fist fight. Brilliant, sophisticated, suave, and tough.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2732523669_dd1b11abdf.jpg

Perry White - Martin Sheen (The West Wing, The Departed, American President)
No one better for the tough but fair boss.
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/dreamworks_skg/catch_me_if_you_can/martin_sheen/catch.jpg

Jimmy Olsen - Jesse Eisenberg (Adventureland, Zombieland, The Squid and the Whale)
Great at the young and innocent schtick.
http://www.zap2it.com/media/photo/2009-05/46815398.jpg?title=Jesse%20Eisenberg%20in%20%27Adv entureland%27

Metallo - Jeremy Renner (The Hurt Locker, 28 Weeks Later, S.W.A.T.)
Could bring real depth and menace to create a memorable and frightening villain.
http://blog.newsok.com/bamsblog/files/2009/07/jeremy-renner-hurt-locker-1.jpg

General Zod - Mark Strong (Sherlock Holmes, Kick-Ass, Body of Lies)
See Renner's description.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01152/arts-graphics-2004_1152510a.jpg
nice dude

[jak123]

Here's something I made up about a year ago (before Michael Cera was in every movie and Joaquin Phoenix quit acting to become a Geico caveman):

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/Timstuff_photos/Supermancast3.jpg


Good choices there Tim. Any ideas for Lana?


I really think that Jared Padalecki would be perfect for Superman. He's tall, has the look, and is a pretty good actor.

[Timstuff]

Eh, Padalecki has a little too much nose and forehead for me...

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8080/supernaturalseason508.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/supernaturalseason508.jpg/)

Anyway, I'm not sure who I'd pick as Lana. In the first movie she'll probably only show up in Smallville and if they're casting 20 somethings for the leads, they'll probably go with more tweenish-looking actors for the Smallville scenes so it'll likely be an unknown. If she shows up in a sequel though, mayve Isla Fisher?

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn110/olympicchick08/LiveJournal/Girls/IslaFisher.jpg

[Webhead2006]

nice casting choices i would be down with a majority of them. Dont really know the zod/jimmy choices that well myself. As for the sam worthington talk, i thought he did ok job in terminator salvation. Havent seen him in anything else yet. But ya i wouldnt want him for superman. I agree he would probably be better suited for a villain like metallo or some other.

[Webhead2006]

she would be a solid pick in my book.

[SuperAl]

Is lana even really necessary for the movie? I kinda have grown to hate that character because of smallville lol

[Webhead2006]

oh i hate the character myself due to kristen's take on the character on smallville. Havent liked the character much since season 2/3 time frame. but for lana at most i would like to see a few smallville days scenes when clark was a teen and at least show his relationship to lana, pete ross, maybe how they learned about his powers. It would just be small short scenes at most for origins in smallville time. Though i wouldnt mind if they did have a adult lana lang show up down the road in a new film series to see whats up with the character maybe have her be a romantic foil to clark to add a dynamic going with lois/clark's love relationship or something.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Lana would be okay but I probably wouldn't want her until the 3rd flick.

[Timstuff]

Not to derail the thread, but I kind of hope they keep the Clark / Lex past friendship connection in the movie, seeing as it's not even exclusive to the Smallville TV series in the first place. Also, it'd really help if they cast different actors for Clark and Lex from their scenes in the past (Clark and Lex could be 14 and 17 in Smallville, then 24 and 29 in Metropolis) since that would help suspend the audience's disbelief. When Lex and Clark were friends, Clark looked different from how he does as both "mild mannered" Clark and Superman, so the connection would be less obvious (although I do think that Luthor should eventually learn Clark / Superman's secret, since it'd be a great plot twist).

I think having some flashbacks of Smallville with Clark and Lex being friends would be a nice nod to the TV series (back when it was still good), as well as offering a more personal connection to the whole Superman and Lex Luthor rivalry and differentiating the reboot from the Donner franchise.

[Rodrigo90]

I prefer Sam Worthington. I think he looks more like the early years of the character. I just wish he would work on his American accent. lol.

I wouldnt mind Henry Cavill either. You probably wouldnt get my choices in 1 movie. The budget would be over Five Hundred Million,lol.

Still 1 of my choices would be nice.

[jak123]

Fisher would be quite good. If they do end up using Lana, I like to see maybe Danielle Panabaker play the part.
http://www.beauty-and-the-bath.com/image-files/danielle-panabaker_fs.jpg

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Not to derail the thread, but I kind of hope they keep the Clark / Lex past friendship connection in the movie, seeing as it's not even exclusive to the Smallville TV series in the first place. Also, it'd really help if they cast different actors for Clark and Lex from their scenes in the past (Clark and Lex could be 14 and 17 in Smallville, then 24 and 29 in Metropolis) since that would help suspend the audience's disbelief. When Lex and Clark were friends, Clark looked different from how he does as both "mild mannered" Clark and Superman, so the connection would be less obvious (although I do think that Luthor should eventually learn Clark / Superman's secret, since it'd be a great plot twist).

I think having some flashbacks of Smallville with Clark and Lex being friends would be a nice nod to the TV series (back when it was still good), as well as offering a more personal connection to the whole Superman and Lex Luthor rivalry and differentiating the reboot from the Donner franchise.I wouldn't cry if they made them childhood friends but for some reason I really don't want them to be.

Fisher would be quite good. If they do end up using Lana, I like to see maybe Danielle Panabaker play the part.By the time the movie is made she'll be old enough.:awesome:

Also, I dig her. I wouldn't at all mind her as Lana Lang.

[Lucid]

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[Krug3r]

I like the cast but would prefer anymore Zod....and Mark Strong as Lex

[Rodrigo90]

I want Brad Garrett as Bizarro.

[SuperMike335!!]

I think prefer not to have Zod there as the villain anyway.

There are a lot of other Superman Rouges that with a little imagination could be plenty a big enough threat to be a job for Superman.

We have had Zod already, and we have had Luthor there as the Primary Villain in all other Superman movies, except 3, where we had another 80s style business guy who served the same niche.

If Lex is there, I prefer he not be the primary villain/threat. I prefer corporate lex to exist in Superman's world, but the main villain should be given to one that has not appeared in a movie before.

Bizzaro, Parasite (who can be very tough), Livewire (sort of like the STAS version), Metallo can be up-powered as well, and even Toyman could be dangerous with a little revamp.

There are others I have left out but they could all be made tougher and better suited villains to be used in a movie.

Zod we have already had.

[Nightwing1977]

I disagree completely. I almost would rather have Cavill played by a foreign actor. America is Superman's adopted home., so a briton or an aussie might add a layer to the performance.

But he grew up in America since he was a baby, that he can talk like an American. That is why I'm all for an American to play Supes than someone trying too hard to sound like American.

[Webhead2006]

yea i wouldnt mind if they took that smallville/comics take they were friends for a time when clark was a youth. Though i would also be down with them first meeting in metropolis and all that.

[SuperMike335!!]

Take another look at Armie Hammer.

He was being considered for batman in a JLA movie at one point, but now that is sort of over with, I think he would make a better Superman.

He is 6'5", and in decent shape. With the right bodybuilding coash he could be in great shape by filming time.

He would require hair dye, but he seems to have the right kind of look.

http://www.zap2it.com/media/photo/2009-02/45049201.jpg

[RachelDawes]

Not to derail the thread, but I kind of hope they keep the Clark / Lex past friendship connection in the movie, seeing as it's not even exclusive to the Smallville TV series in the first place. Also, it'd really help if they cast different actors for Clark and Lex from their scenes in the past (Clark and Lex could be 14 and 17 in Smallville, then 24 and 29 in Metropolis) since that would help suspend the audience's disbelief. When Lex and Clark were friends, Clark looked different from how he does as both "mild mannered" Clark and Superman, so the connection would be less obvious (although I do think that Luthor should eventually learn Clark / Superman's secret, since it'd be a great plot twist).

I don't want Clark and Lex to have known one another as kids. I'm tired of the comic cliche of heroes and villains having some sort of personal connection to one another. Besides, I don't know what SV Clark would look like to make him appear so different from DP Clark and Supes.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Hammer was flat out cast as Batman for Justice League: Mortal. And don't think they also didn't read him for Superman while he was there.

[RachelDawes]

What do you mean "ready him for Superman"?

[FilmNerdJamie]

Accidentally putting a single letter to the end of a word can certainly change the intention of what I was saying! Ha! My mistake and thanks for catching it.

[SuperMike335!!]

Hammer was flat out cast as Batman for Justice League: Mortal. And don't think they also didn't read him for Superman while he was there.


My point was that he looks more like Superman than Batman, to me anyhow, maybe he did fine as Superman but even better as Batman, or maybe the criteria itself the casting director was looking for was the problem. After all they picked a guy who looks nothing like Superman.

Anyway, the project is now shelved. I think Armie should at least get another audition if Superman legal issues get solved soon enough.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I have to admit, Hammer has a very good look in that pic.

[SuperMike335!!]

http://www2.pictures.fp.zimbio.com/Stars+Set+Gossip+Girl+VHk2Xrl8Os9l.jpg

http://mm.news-record.com/drupal/files/imagecache/nrcom_article_image_landscape/Images/hammer.jpg

Can someone manip this next one so that he has Glasses and black hair?

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site577/2008/1008/20081008_031059_billyfilm08_400.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCrgDK7QWfc interview with him.

Some people may have an issue with him being Jewish, but I think the Seigel and Shuster families would not take any issue with it...

[FilmNerdJamie]

Considering that 3 of the 4 directors behind Superman movies were 100% Grade-A certified Jewish, I doubt that matters. On the other hand, a gay actor playing Superman? That will never happen.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Why would anybody in there right mind care if a jewish guy played Superman?

[batman44]

I wouldn't mind Hammer.