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Nightwing1977
10-01-2009, 06:14 PM
On the other hand, a gay actor playing Superman? That will never happen.
Too bad some immature folks like Apologist, Emijayne, & many "Singer's Superman Sucks" posters keep claiming Routh is gay. We know none of the actors who play Supes are gay, but apparently some still think Routh is gay without solid proof to back it up. Sad, isn't it?
Why would anybody in there right mind care if a jewish guy played Superman?
Probably the anti-Semantics type. :facepalm:
FilmNerdJamie
10-01-2009, 06:17 PM
Too bad some immature folks like Apologist, Emijayne, & many "Singer's Superman Sucks" posters keep claiming Routh is gay. We know none of the actors who play Supes are gay, but apparently some still think Routh is gay without solid proof to back it up. Sad, isn't it?
It's my belief that any moron who runs labeling people with homophobic slurs are clearly fighting their own inner-homosexual.
Young Superman
10-01-2009, 06:22 PM
Agreed FilmNerdJamie
I SEE SPIDEY
10-01-2009, 06:27 PM
Agreed times two Jamie.
Sawyer
10-01-2009, 06:30 PM
Agreed times three. It seems like people are always trying to put a gay spin on everything Singer does. Yeah, Singer's gay, but it doesnt mean Routh is...
FilmNerdJamie
10-01-2009, 06:31 PM
I'm pretty sure Routh's wife is certain otherwise as opposed to the "He's a ***!" morons.
SuperMike335!!
10-01-2009, 06:39 PM
Anyhow, back to the point, I think Armie Hammer should at least get an Audition.
I think some black hair dye, and he would have the look. Working with a good coach for about 6 months and he would have the build.
He also has a good voice for Superman.
Rodrigo90
10-01-2009, 06:58 PM
Bryan Singer is gay? I would never have imagined it. But so what? Brandon Routh isnt gay either. Stop being homophobic.
Anyway...
Webhead2006
10-01-2009, 10:17 PM
I wasnt down for hammer for batman, i didnt he he was totally right for that role, mostly due to his young age and if they at one point or another did want jlm to be assoicated from BB/SR films. Though i think he has some solid skills,enjoyed his short guest run on reaper's season 2. I wouldnt mind to see him get invovled again with a superhero film down the road. Some folks over in the captain america threads brought up his name there as someone they would like to see test for steve rogers.
SuperMike335!!
10-01-2009, 10:43 PM
I wasnt down for hammer for batman, i didnt he he was totally right for that role, mostly due to his young age and if they at one point or another did want jlm to be assoicated from BB/SR films. Though i think he has some solid skills,enjoyed his short guest run on reaper's season 2. I wouldnt mind to see him get invovled again with a superhero film down the road. Some folks over in the captain america threads brought up his name there as someone they would like to see test for steve rogers.
I was not down for him as Batman either.
But on the other hand, I think his voice and presence is better for Superman.
He is thin, but not nearly as thin as Reeve was when he got the role.
I think by filming time Hammer could be in the right shape to play cap or Superman. It would take a bodybuilding coach, and about 6 months to get him in the right shape, but if casting were done early he could have more than that to work with. Look what Hugh Jackman did.
I would prefer Armie be superman. I think his voice suits the role well.
KalMart
10-01-2009, 10:47 PM
Considering that 3 of the 4 directors behind Superman movies were 100% Grade-A certified Jewish, I doubt that matters. On the other hand, a gay actor playing Superman? That will never happen.
If I had to pick one all-time actor to play Superman, it would have been Rock Hudson......
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3426/hudsonrockcolor15.jpghttp://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5351/sjff03img1144.jpg
.....who happened to be gay.
Webhead2006
10-01-2009, 10:53 PM
it would have been interesting to see those 30s-60s icons how they might have been if a big screen film happened in those early days or if they were still around come time for the 70s film.
SuperMike335!!
10-01-2009, 10:54 PM
If I had to pick one all-time actor to play Superman, it would have been Rock Hudson......
.....who happened to be gay.
I don't have an issue with Rock Hudson playing superman because he was gay, but I think he was a monster.
The guy was having sex with a man half his age for 8 months, and did not bother telling the yonger man he was HIV positive.
That is in my eyes unforgivable, a selfish pig, and a monster.
Being gay is one thing, but having sex with another person, for half a year knowing you have the disease, and not telling them? That is vile.
I SEE SPIDEY
10-01-2009, 11:14 PM
^It's off topic but you learn something new every day.
KalMart
10-01-2009, 11:22 PM
I don't have an issue with Rock Hudson playing superman because he was gay, but I think he was a monster.
The guy was having sex with a man half his age for 8 months, and did not bother telling the yonger man he was HIV positive.
That is in my eyes unforgivable, a selfish pig, and a monster.
Being gay is one thing, but having sex with another person, for half a year knowing you have the disease, and not telling them? That is vile.
Would you feel the same about another man if it were with a woman half his age? :O
KalMart
10-01-2009, 11:24 PM
it would have been interesting to see those 30s-60s icons how they might have been if a big screen film happened in those early days or if they were still around come time for the 70s film.
Or vice-versa.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pnkfFwSgYU
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8160/40spostera.jpg
Timstuff
10-01-2009, 11:36 PM
Probably the anti-Semantics type. :facepalm:
I am very much against semantics. They're such an inefficient way to conduct a debate!
SuperMike335!!
10-01-2009, 11:36 PM
Would you feel the same about another man if it were with a woman half his age? :O
Yes.
Yes I would feel just as sickened by such an act even if the perpetrator was heterosexual.
If it were another man with a woman half his age, or even his very own age, I would still feel just as sick knowing he exposed another person to a horrible deadly disease, and that the whole time he knew and did not tell his girlfriend.
Being gay has nothing to do with it.
I SEE SPIDEY
10-01-2009, 11:45 PM
I am very much against semantics. They're such an inefficient way to conduct a debate!Don't be a grammar nazi.:oldrazz:
KalMart
10-02-2009, 12:34 AM
Would that be a grammazi?
Sounds Italian.
KalMart
10-02-2009, 12:38 AM
Yes.
Yes I would feel just as sickened by such an act even if the perpetrator was heterosexual.
If it were another man with a woman half his age, or even his very own age, I would still feel just as sick knowing he exposed another person to a horrible deadly disease, and that the whole time he knew and did not tell his girlfriend.
Being gay has nothing to do with it.
Do you think that a heterosexual person would be more or less likely to be this deceptive? :O
I know where you're coming from, though. I used to like Woody Allen's movies from the 70's....and I still do....but if given the opportunity to work with him, I don't think I would.....and it's not because he's Jewish. :oldrazz:
Rodrigo90
10-02-2009, 04:20 AM
But you have. A Welshman playing Batman. An Englishman playing Commissioner Gordan. An Australian playing Wolverine.
Jake Cassidy
10-02-2009, 04:45 AM
A Canadian playing Hal Jordan. An Aussie playing Thor.
Jake Cassidy
10-02-2009, 04:46 AM
But he grew up in America since he was a baby, that he can talk like an American. That is why I'm all for an American to play Supes than someone trying too hard to sound like American.
Most British and Australian actors can do the American accent perfectly, so it's not a problem at all.
I SEE SPIDEY
10-02-2009, 04:55 AM
I don't know about perfectly.
Sam Worthington's accent in Terminator Salvation was pretty awful. I know people are going to disagree with me about this one but I think that Nicole Kidman's american accent is generally pretty bad. Gary Oldman's accent sometimes came through in The Dark Knight and he actually does a pretty good one. There are countless other actors who do well but are far from perfect.
I think that false to say that most of them do American accents perfectly. They might do them will enough but it's far from perfect IMHO.
Jake Cassidy
10-02-2009, 04:55 AM
Superman - Henry Cavill (The Tudors, Stardust, Whatever Works)
Brilliant young actor. 6'1, 26 years old. Has "super hero" written all over him.
http://hotcelebs.today.com/files/2009/02/henrycavillcb.jpg
Lois Lane - Michelle Monaghan (Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Eagle Eye, Mission Impossible III)
I've always thought Lois works better when she's a few years older than sweet naive Clark. Monaghan can play the jaded and mature, yet vulnerable reporter.
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/mission__impossible_iii/michelle_monaghan/missioniii1.jpg
Lex Luthor - Jon Hamm (Mad Men, The Day The Earth Stood Still)
I know he played Lex in a FunnyOrDie skit, but he'd kill the actual role. He could make Lex a threat in the board room or in a fist fight. Brilliant, sophisticated, suave, and tough.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2732523669_dd1b11abdf.jpg
Perry White - Martin Sheen (The West Wing, The Departed, American President)
No one better for the tough but fair boss.
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/dreamworks_skg/catch_me_if_you_can/martin_sheen/catch.jpg
Jimmy Olsen - Jesse Eisenberg (Adventureland, Zombieland, The Squid and the Whale)
Great at the young and innocent schtick.
http://www.zap2it.com/media/photo/2009-05/46815398.jpg?title=Jesse%20Eisenberg%20in%20%27Adv entureland%27
Metallo - Jeremy Renner (The Hurt Locker, 28 Weeks Later, S.W.A.T.)
Could bring real depth and menace to create a memorable and frightening villain.
http://blog.newsok.com/bamsblog/files/2009/07/jeremy-renner-hurt-locker-1.jpg
General Zod - Mark Strong (Sherlock Holmes, Kick-Ass, Body of Lies)
See Renner's description.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01152/arts-graphics-2004_1152510a.jpg
****in' awesome! :woot:
Jake Cassidy
10-02-2009, 04:59 AM
I don't know about perfectly.
Sam Worthington's accent in Terminator Salvation was pretty awful. I know people are going to disagree with me about this one but I think that Nicole Kidman's american accent is generally pretty bad. Gary Oldman's accent sometimes came through in The Dark Knight and he actually does a pretty good one. There are countless other actors who do well but are far from perfect.
I think that false to say that most of them do American accents perfectly. They might do them will enough but it's far from perfect IMHO.
Ok, maybe not perfect, but a lot of them are really damn good. For example: Simon Baker and Hugh Laurie. I can't count how many times I've heard/read that people didn't even know that they were not American. Do I have to mention Cate Blanchett? :woot:
You should try being Australian having to hear Americans trying to do our accent. It's excruciating. Robert Downey Jr. is the only one, that I've seen, who can nail it. :yay:
I SEE SPIDEY
10-02-2009, 05:03 AM
Ok, maybe not perfect, but a lot of them are really damn good. For example: Simon Baker and Hugh Laurie. I can't count how many times I've heard/read that people didin't even know that either of them were not American.
You should try being Australian having to hear Americans trying to do our accent. It's excruciating. Robert Downey Jr. is the only one, that I've seen, who can nail it. :yay:Yeah...we suck at accents for the most part.
Jake Cassidy
10-02-2009, 05:08 AM
I think it may have something to do with Aussies growing up watching a lot of U.S. tv shows and movies. So the accent is kind of etched in our brains. Whereas Americans don't sem to watch a lot of Aussie tv shows or movies.
It's just a theory. :woot:
dark_b
10-02-2009, 05:08 AM
thats because RDJ is a fantastic actor. accents is always hard to do.
Jake Cassidy
10-02-2009, 05:10 AM
^ Not always.
dark_b
10-02-2009, 05:13 AM
I think it may have something to do with Aussies growing up watching a lot of U.S. tv shows and movies. So the accent is kind of etched in our brains. Whereas Americans don't sem to watch a lot of Aussie tv shows or movies.
It's just a theory. :woot:i dont this thats the reason. from what i understand its hard to talk like an aussie. some are saying just talk like you are lazy.
but its harder :awesome:
Jake Cassidy
10-02-2009, 05:14 AM
^ It's not hard for me.
Nightwing1977
10-02-2009, 05:47 AM
It's my belief that any moron who runs labeling people with homophobic slurs are clearly fighting their own inner-homosexual.
That true. When they keep saying the same thing over & over without stopping, I question what they really are.
If I had to pick one all-time actor to play Superman, it would have been Rock Hudson......
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3426/hudsonrockcolor15.jpg
.....who happened to be gay.
He does have that Superman look & acting at the time his acting career skyrockted big time. This show it doesn't matter what one sexuality is in real life as long you make the character you're playing believable. :)
Don't be a grammar nazi.:oldrazz:
Relax. He hasn't grown a comb mustache like J. Jonah Jameson yet. :D :D
http://www.the-isb.com/images/SSS-JJJ01.jpg
Nightwing1977
10-02-2009, 05:52 AM
I don't know about perfectly.
Sam Worthington's accent in Terminator Salvation was pretty awful. I know people are going to disagree with me about this one but I think that Nicole Kidman's american accent is generally pretty bad. Gary Oldman's accent sometimes came through in The Dark Knight and he actually does a pretty good one. There are countless other actors who do well but are far from perfect.
I think that false to say that most of them do American accents perfectly. They might do them will enough but it's far from perfect IMHO.
There you go. We haven't seen Cavill pull off a fantastic, real American accent which is why I don't know if I want him for Supes. But then, I still want Routh to return for now.....literally. ;)
I SEE SPIDEY
10-02-2009, 06:09 AM
There you go. We haven't seen Cavill pull off a fantastic, real American accent which is why I don't know if I want him for Supes. But then, I still want Routh to return for now.....literally. ;)Don't worry, Cavill ain't gonna be Superman anyway, he is just my fantasy pick.
That-Guy
10-02-2009, 09:37 AM
Ok, maybe not perfect, but a lot of them are really damn good. For example: Simon Baker and Hugh Laurie. I can't count how many times I've heard/read that people didn't even know that they were not American. Do I have to mention Cate Blanchett? :woot:
You should try being Australian having to hear Americans trying to do our accent. It's excruciating. Robert Downey Jr. is the only one, that I've seen, who can nail it. :yay:
Yeah, Aussie actors in general do the best American accents. I didn't even REALIZE that Hugh Jackman and Julian McMahon were Australian until I saw them in interviews. Aussies are so good at them that I'm literally put off by Aussie actors who can do American accents convincingly (Hello, Sam Worthington).
SuperMike335!!
10-02-2009, 10:06 AM
Do you think that a heterosexual person would be more or less likely to be this deceptive? :O
I know where you're coming from, though. I used to like Woody Allen's movies from the 70's....and I still do....but if given the opportunity to work with him, I don't think I would.....and it's not because he's Jewish. :oldrazz:
No different. All humans can either chose to be Honest, or Lie. Even if the lie is lethal. Lies and Truth are a real choice. Honesty has nothing to do with what someone finds attractive.
I have no issue with Armie Hammer playing Superman as he is Jewish, I just remember in the past, several years ago, on another board people were up in arms about the suggestion of Jew to play Superman.
I think it would not only be fine, but fitting. His comic creators were Jewish. At the time, 1938, Nazi Germany had declared their men the Übermensch, and two young Jewish guys in America decided to come up with their own Superman, one who would fight for Truth Justice and the American way.
Armie being a Jew is therefor, in my Opinion almost fitting to play the character invented by a Seigel and Shuster.
I was actually surprised to find out Armie is Jewish. He is 6'5" had blonde hair and Blue eyes, not the typical stereotype, but that is the problem with stereotypes, they are often incorrect. I had no idea he was Jewish, when for a very long time I felt that Armie was terribly miscast as Batman, and would have made a far better Superman.
Even though he looks older and more masculine in that face than a normal 23 year old, Armie is young enough to still be in his 20s when this Legal situation is figured out.
Heck if WB gets moving on making a project start by say 2011, and they cast Armie, maybe such selection would sit in good favor with the families of Seigel and Shuster that they would come to an agreement sooner. Then again they may not care either way, but I doubt it would hurt.
Webhead2006
10-02-2009, 10:08 AM
Totally we have no clue how things are going to come about with the whole copyright case.
FilmNerdJamie
10-02-2009, 10:13 AM
I'm pretty sure that WB casting a Jewish actor as Superman would have zero effect towards the inevitable Siegel/Shuster settlement happening.
Webhead2006
10-02-2009, 10:14 AM
You are probably right their. There is bad blood between them still right?
SuperMike335!!
10-02-2009, 10:21 AM
I'm pretty sure that WB casting a Jewish actor as Superman would have zero effect towards the inevitable Siegel/Shuster settlement happening.
Like said, then again it might not, but sure would not hurt anything.
Regardless of his religion, Armie is only 23, and so young enough that he would still be under 30 when this mess is cleared up.
Timstuff
10-02-2009, 12:44 PM
Don't worry, Cavill ain't gonna be Superman anyway, he is just my fantasy pick.
Cavill was almost Superman twice, so I wouldn't rule him out as a serious contender for the role. Especially since he looks much more Superman-ly now that he's gotten a chance to fill out than he did back when the aborted projects he auditioned for were in pre-production. He wouldn't have gotten that far if he was incapable of faking a convincing American accent.
FilmNerdJamie
10-02-2009, 12:48 PM
Twice? What other version was he a contender for other than McG's incarnation?
Timstuff
10-02-2009, 12:52 PM
Well, it depends on how you consider it. Technically he was McG's choice, and then the project turned over to Ratner who also wanted to use Cavill, but if you consider that whole project under both directors to be only once I wouldn't argue that that's illegitimate.
FilmNerdJamie
10-02-2009, 12:55 PM
Ratner's top choice was Matthew Bomer, not Cavill. He was passed up twice for Superman Returns and then later for Justice League: Mortal. He won't be putting the red and blue suit on.
Nightwing1977
10-02-2009, 01:31 PM
Ratner's top choice was Matthew Bomer, not Cavill. He was passed up twice for Superman Returns and then later for Justice League: Mortal. He won't be putting the red and blue suit on.
He was consider for Justice League: Mortal? I didn't know that. Very interesting there. With the situation there, I wouldn't be surprise he will never play Supes. The only thing I remeber about who would play Supes was supposely some think Welling play him or D.J. Cotrona. Good thing the film didn't get pick up & neither of the 2 (or 3 ;)) play Supes either.
FilmNerdJamie
10-02-2009, 01:38 PM
He wasn't in the running for Superman Returns and Justice League: Mortal.
KalMart
10-02-2009, 02:42 PM
I wonder if Ben Kingsley being a Quaker made him a hard casting choice for Ghandi or Itzhak Stern.
Webhead2006
10-02-2009, 02:58 PM
who knows.
FilmNerdJamie
10-02-2009, 03:06 PM
Ghandi and Schindler's List weren't films made by committee like the next Superman film will be. Doubt it.
KalMart
10-02-2009, 03:57 PM
So will this committee 'filter' based on race/faith? Did Singer's being Jewish compensate for him being gay.....or vice versa? :oldrazz:
Like said, then again it might not, but sure would not hurt anything.
Would a non-Jewish choice hurt things? How devout are the S&S descendants?
FilmNerdJamie
10-02-2009, 03:59 PM
A director being turned down by a studio because they were Jewish or gay? That is fiction.
KalMart
10-02-2009, 04:10 PM
But that same committee would have had issues with Kingsley being a Quaker if they were making Ghandi or Schindler's List?
FilmNerdJamie
10-02-2009, 04:15 PM
Didn't say they would. Just that Schindler's List and Ghandi were director-centric projects. Neither were films meant to open on 4000 screens and sell cross-promotional crap like tee-shirts and Happy Meals.
Apples and oranges. But since we're on said subject, I seriously doubt they would care with Kingsley. Those films didn't cost $200+ million. Different expectations going into making them.
KalMart
10-02-2009, 04:17 PM
Didn't say they would. Just that Schindler's List and Ghandi were director-centric projects. Neither were films meant to open on 4000 screens and sell cross-promotional crap like tee-shirts and Happy Meals.
Apples and oranges. But since we're on said subject, I seriously doubt they would care with Kingsley. Those films didn't cost $200+ million. Different expectations going into making them.
What does the actor playing Superman being ...or not being...Jewish have to do with selling lots of T-shirts and Happy Meals....or its budget, for that matter? Wouldn't you think the people who'd be buying said merchandise and tickets wouldn't care if the actor is Jewish/Catholic/Christian/Episcopalian/ or even an atheist, as long as he looks and plays the part well? Or are you referring to studio nepotism?
FilmNerdJamie
10-02-2009, 04:45 PM
Like it or lump it, Warner Brothers will pick a part the actors in question for Superman. Why? Because they would be the "face" of the character for possibly an entire generation. That entails not just a potential series of crazy-expensive movies, but mountains of merchandising tie-ins. Fortunes and careers to be made. That means yeah...stupid ******** is going to be looked at. It's not right, but that's the truth.
KalMart
10-02-2009, 05:20 PM
Like it or lump it, Warner Brothers will pick a part the actors in question for Superman. Why? Because they would be the "face" of the character for possibly an entire generation. That entails not just a potential series of crazy-expensive movies, but mountains of merchandising tie-ins. Fortunes and careers to be made. That means yeah...stupid ******** is going to be looked at. It's not right, but that's the truth.
And again, regarding the fortunes etc. to be made, how will the actor being Jewish...as opposed to, say, Catholic or Christian...increase that likelihood or give them a marketing edge? Is there something inherently more marketable about a Jewish 'face' (however one may define that) than the others?
FilmNerdJamie
10-02-2009, 05:26 PM
I wasn't even the poster to bring up the Jewish factor. Maybe you should ask them?
SuperMike335!!
10-02-2009, 05:31 PM
So will this committee 'filter' based on race/faith? Did Singer's being Jewish compensate for him being gay.....or vice versa? :oldrazz:
Would a non-Jewish choice hurt things? How devout are the S&S descendants?
Heck, for all I know it would be no different with them, and the descendants may not even be practicing at all.
Honestly, when I made the comment that Seigel and Shuster wouldn't mind a Jew playing superman it was meant to be light hearted joke, as both guys were Jews, and likely would have loved to have seen another Jewish man play the role of the hero they invented at a time when Nazi Germany was at it peak in power.
Does that matter to the families today? Maybe, but Probably not.
I'd be surprised to find out if any of the Shuster or Seigel families even cared about the character Superman, or if there are any of them left old enough who are involved in the suit had even met Jerry or Joel.
I really did not intent to get a whole conversation going:doh: about weather it mattered one bit if the Actor was Jewish or Gay (I didn't even bring that up), or both for that matter.
All I care is that the guy has the physicality, the looks, voice and acting talent to pull off the role. Armie Hammer does seem to fit the bill.
That and just be a decent human being off the screen, since they will be playing a role seen as a hero. That does not mean they need to be an angel either, just not a ****head.
KalMart
10-02-2009, 05:32 PM
I wasn't even the poster to bring up the Jewish factor. Maybe you should ask them?
Maybe you shouldn't have responded. :oldrazz:
I'm not denying that there's a certain nepotism within studio ranks. But that's more about being self-serving than market analysis/strategy.
FilmNerdJamie
10-02-2009, 05:37 PM
You also must have missed the post I made where I said a Jewish actor playing Superman doesn't matter?
SuperMike335!!
10-02-2009, 05:41 PM
I think we are all on the same page about not caring if the next actor is gay or a Jew, so long as they nail the role, and are a very good Superman.
So the argument looks like this:
http://foreveranoob.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/fighting.jpg
KalMart
10-02-2009, 05:47 PM
Heck, for all I know it would be no different with them, and the descendants may not even be practicing at all.
Honestly, when I made the comment that Seigel and Shuster wouldn't mind a Jew playing superman it was meant to be light hearted joke, as both guys were Jews, and likely would have loved to have seen another Jewish man play the role of the hero they invented at a time when Nazi Germany was at it peak in power.
Does that matter to the families today? Maybe, but Probably not.
I'd be surprised to find out if any of the Shuster or Seigel families even cared about the character Superman, or if there are any of them left old enough who are involved in the suit had even met Jerry or Joel.
I really did not intent to get a whole conversation going:doh: about weather it mattered one bit if the Actor was Jewish or Gay (I didn't even bring that up), or both for that matter.
All I care is that the guy has the physicality, the looks, voice and acting talent to pull off the role. Armie Hammer does seem to fit the bill.
That and just be a decent human being off the screen, since they will be playing a role seen as a hero. That does not mean they need to be an angel either, just not a ****head.
Ah....but conversely....why would WB, who would be in charge of casting, care what Seigel and Shuster...or their descendants...feel about the actor's religion/background? :O
In all seriousness....I don't see the Superman story being a particularly Jewish one. I definitely see parallels/metaphors to American immigration, which could apply to many different races, but not so much a reaction to the Nazis. Maybe S&S, deep down, wanted it t be that....or it served as part of their inspiration. But instead of being representative of Judaism or Jewish folk, I see the story to be more about equality amongst all creeds. In that respect, Superman could be played by an actor who is Jewish, a Christian, Catholic, Buddhist, Muslim, whatever....because the story isn't about religion or secularism. But.....perhaps some out there feel that an actor being of a certain faith contradicts what Superman 'is about'. If that's the case, then those are issues that should be addressed outside of Superman, rather than using him as a vehicle for it.
KalMart
10-02-2009, 05:50 PM
You also must have missed the post I made where I said a Jewish actor playing Superman doesn't matter?
No I didn't, which was why I asked about your 'committee' comment, and why it would matter to them. You answered that there's a lot of money at stake...and again, I asked what the actor being Jewish has to do with that. What's the connection that they're trying to work into their plan there that they feel wouldn't work as well if he were not Jewish?
FilmNerdJamie
10-02-2009, 05:52 PM
And I explained the committee comment.
KalMart
10-02-2009, 05:55 PM
And I explained the committee comment.
You explained why you said it, but you didn't explain or illustrate why you believed it to be true. Why would the studios feel a Jewish actor for Superman would make the franchise more profitable than if he were not? Is there something about a Jewish 'face', as you put it, that will hike sales of T-shirts?
FilmNerdJamie
10-02-2009, 05:59 PM
I did explain. You're just not listening. That's why I'm ending this conversation. Goodbye.
KalMart
10-02-2009, 06:03 PM
I did explain. You're just not listening.
Yeah...the 'face' part...and T-shirts...which again, you failed to illustrate or support.
That's why I'm ending this conversation.
I'll bet it's because you can't.....but cheers. :O
SuperMike335!!
10-02-2009, 06:33 PM
Ah....but conversely....why would WB, who would be in charge of casting, care what Seigel and Shuster...or their descendants...feel about the actor's religion/background? :O
In all seriousness....I don't see the Superman story being a particularly Jewish one. I definitely see parallels/metaphors to American immigration, which could apply to many different races, but not so much a reaction to the Nazis. Maybe S&S, deep down, wanted it t be that....or it served as part of their inspiration. But instead of being representative of Judaism or Jewish folk, I see the story to be more about equality amongst all creeds. In that respect, Superman could be played by an actor who is Jewish, a Christian, Catholic, Buddhist, Muslim, whatever....because the story isn't about religion or secularism. But.....perhaps some out there feel that an actor being of a certain faith contradicts what Superman 'is about'. If that's the case, then those are issues that should be addressed outside of Superman, rather than using him as a vehicle for it.
Right, that is the feel to the comics, and ought to be. I think it is one reason why his religion was never defined. Sure he has a Priest as a friend, but that does not mean his is Catholic.
Anyhow, that is a good point about WB probably not caring one way or another about what S&S families think about the actor they cast.
Its not like the families are holding up the show on getting a movie made, if anything the judge was pushing WB at it so fast it froze.
RachelDawes
10-02-2009, 10:22 PM
I wonder if Ben Kingsley being a Quaker made him a hard casting choice for Ghandi or Itzhak Stern.
Kingsley is half Indian and half Jewish, so probably not. :cwink:
Webhead2006
10-02-2009, 10:28 PM
is there any comic villains any one would like kingsley to be. I think he could probably make a sweet adrian toomes vulture.
BenReilly
10-02-2009, 10:37 PM
is there any comic villains any one would like kingsley to be. I think he could probably make a sweet adrian toomes vulture.
Raimi actually met with Kingsley to play the Vulture in Spider-Man 3, before the character was cut from the script and was replaced with Venom.
Webhead2006
10-02-2009, 10:40 PM
ah cool well i would be down for vulture/shocker/mysterio/lizard/scorpion as villains i want to see happen within sm4-6.
KalMart
10-03-2009, 12:08 PM
Kingsley is half Indian and half Jewish, so probably not. :cwink:
Which, naturally, made him a Quaker. :oldrazz:
KalMart
10-03-2009, 12:12 PM
is there any comic villains any one would like kingsley to be. I think he could probably make a sweet adrian toomes vulture.
If there's a comic villain out there that is something like his role in Sexy Beast.
Webhead2006
10-03-2009, 12:17 PM
Never seen that
KalMart
10-03-2009, 02:45 PM
One of his most intense performances.....and Ian McShane is great in it as well.
Webhead2006
10-03-2009, 03:45 PM
oh ok i will look it up when i got the time.
Nightwing1977
10-03-2009, 07:25 PM
Which, naturally, made him a Quaker. :oldrazz:
Interesting. :D :D
http://petersontoscano.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/quaker_1.jpg
NotFadeAway
10-05-2009, 12:45 PM
I know I'm only saying this because I have recently fell in love with the HBO show" Bored to Death", but I could see Ted Danson making a hilarious Perry White.
I have felt for some time that with the Daily Planet staff, like Perry White, Jimmy Olsen, Cat Grant, etc etc they should go for FUNNY more than anything. This is where you can get alot of dialouge based humor. And this is why it's important for whatever actress plays Lois to have good comedic timing.
Jake Cassidy
10-05-2009, 05:39 PM
Ted Danson would be an awesome Perry White.
Brian2887
10-05-2009, 10:08 PM
Posted this in that other thread.. Thought I'd throw it in here too.
Superman - Henry Cavill (The Tudors, Stardust, Whatever Works)
Brilliant young actor. 6'1, 26 years old. Has "super hero" written all over him.
http://hotcelebs.today.com/files/2009/02/henrycavillcb.jpg
Lois Lane - Michelle Monaghan (Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Eagle Eye, Mission Impossible III)
I've always thought Lois works better when she's a few years older than sweet naive Clark. Monaghan can play the jaded and mature, yet vulnerable reporter.
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/mission__impossible_iii/michelle_monaghan/missioniii1.jpg
Lex Luthor - Jon Hamm (Mad Men, The Day The Earth Stood Still)
I know he played Lex in a FunnyOrDie skit, but he'd kill the actual role. He could make Lex a threat in the board room or in a fist fight. Brilliant, sophisticated, suave, and tough.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2732523669_dd1b11abdf.jpg
Perry White - Martin Sheen (The West Wing, The Departed, American President)
No one better for the tough but fair boss.
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/dreamworks_skg/catch_me_if_you_can/martin_sheen/catch.jpg
Jimmy Olsen - Jesse Eisenberg (Adventureland, Zombieland, The Squid and the Whale)
Great at the young and innocent schtick.
http://www.zap2it.com/media/photo/2009-05/46815398.jpg?title=Jesse%20Eisenberg%20in%20%27Adv entureland%27
Metallo - Jeremy Renner (The Hurt Locker, 28 Weeks Later, S.W.A.T.)
Could bring real depth and menace to create a memorable and frightening villain.
http://blog.newsok.com/bamsblog/files/2009/07/jeremy-renner-hurt-locker-1.jpg
General Zod - Mark Strong (Sherlock Holmes, Kick-Ass, Body of Lies)
See Renner's description.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01152/arts-graphics-2004_1152510a.jpg
Jake Cassidy
10-05-2009, 11:10 PM
I really like that.
willemjoker
10-06-2009, 12:10 AM
Just throwing this one out there - Chris Walken for Perry White.
SuperMike335!!
10-06-2009, 08:23 AM
I'd still like to see a test screen of Armie Hammer for Superman.
I think he has the look the height, and the voice. Getting the build is do-able. Needs Black hair dye, would set the budget back about 12.00$ USD.
Hugh Jackman was thin before he got his role as Wolverine, then he worked with a bodybuilding coach.
Webhead2006
10-06-2009, 10:24 AM
i think i said before that would be a good list of potentials for cast. I would be down with them. I dont know all of the choices works. But they would probably be good. As for the ted danson he could probably make an interesting perry, walken would be a curious one for perry.
elgaz
10-06-2009, 11:44 AM
Here's a new suggestion (I think!) for Clark Kent / Superman - Miles Fisher.
He's 26, and of a similar height and build to Henry Cavill. Needs some bulking up, but I think he has the 'look'. He has starred in Mad Men and more notably, Superhero Movie - where his Tom Cruise parody got a lot of praise. It's probably one of the best impersonations I've seen, so at least we know the guy has some kind of talent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjGmZJu8OnY
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lLsdaCVk3Kk/R-sYNPrQ8qI/AAAAAAAAOx8/w6qb43bKhCk/s320/MilesFisher02.jpg
Man of Tomorrow
10-06-2009, 11:46 AM
I'd still like to see a test screen of Armie Hammer for Superman.
I think he has the look the height, and the voice. Getting the build is do-able. Needs Black hair dye, would set the budget back about 12.00$ USD.
I mentioned him like 100 pages ago but Hammer is probably the only known upcoming actor I could see having a realistic shot at this, while also meeting the physical requirements for the role.
He's 6'5 and only born in 1986, despite coming off as older.
Considering it's official that we won't get a Superman film into development until after 2013 at the earliest, someone in THAT age range is probably what we'll get.
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9238/armiehammer1.jpg
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/264/armiehammer.jpg http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5872/alo029948.jpg
Based on his acting style, he'd probably be the equivalent of how Brendan Fraser would have appeared in the role.
FilmNerdJamie
10-06-2009, 11:48 AM
Considering it's official that we won't get a Superman film into development until after 2013 at the earliest
Where was this said? :huh:
Man of Tomorrow
10-06-2009, 11:52 AM
Here's a new suggestion (I think!) for Clark Kent / Superman - Miles Fisher.
He's 26, and of a similar height and build to Henry Cavill. Needs some bulking up, but I think he has the 'look'. He has starred in Mad Men and more notably, Superhero Movie - where his Tom Cruise parody got a lot of praise. It's probably one of the best impersonations I've seen, so at least we know the guy has some kind of talent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjGmZJu8OnY
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lLsdaCVk3Kk/R-sYNPrQ8qI/AAAAAAAAOx8/w6qb43bKhCk/s320/MilesFisher02.jpg
Wow.
This guy could be the 'Brandon Routh' to Christian Bale's 'Christopher Reeve'
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4118/61444457.jpg
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/8269/musicvidpf2.jpg
Cast him as Batman if Bale ever jumps ship!
Acting Reel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNFK1hlifQg
Man of Tomorrow
10-06-2009, 11:54 AM
Where was this said? :huh:
DC Entertainment said the legal tie-ups are the reason there's no movement on Superman.
And none of that get's completely sorted out till 2013 at the earliest.
Knowing WB, actual development will probably take years after that too realistically.
Webhead2006
10-06-2009, 12:15 PM
yea we are probably looking at 2013/2014 the earliest to get actually development going if all the legal stuff gets settled between now and 2013. Though then we are stuck in the period of waiting to see what kind of direction they want to go in. And we know they havent been able to decide on something to commit to it fully since SR. Hopefully we can have something by 2014, i would hate it to end up more like superman 4-SR wait period.
As for that fisher guy, i dont know his work he does have a nice look to him. But yea we are probably going to have to look at guys right now who are like 17-25 years old right now. Since we know the studios are all looking to get folks 25-35 in range for these types of films nowadays. Plus we dont know how long its going to be to we get something going again.
FilmNerdJamie
10-06-2009, 12:17 PM
I know what DC Entertainment said. They never specifically said until 2013 is my point.
dark_b
10-06-2009, 12:21 PM
didnt they said 2011 ?
Webhead2006
10-06-2009, 12:36 PM
court said wb has to have a film in some form of production by 2011.
Don't WB lose the rights in 2013?
I thought they had to have some sort of movement on a Superman movie by 2011 otherwise they'd open themselves up to another damages lawsuit from the Siegel's.. ?
Webhead2006
10-06-2009, 10:53 PM
from what i remember it was court date for 2011(what ever point in the year i dont know) for wb to get a film in production or they would lose the film rights and the siegels could then sue WB on top of suing DC for more damages. The whole 2013 deal i believe is when the shuster heirs are legally able to enter the copyright battle the siegels have been in for how ever long they have been. Which means they can claim the copyright to action comics #1 superman and some other things. Though this whole battle is such a darn mess on who has what and what each is able to do. I am confused on the whole thing. Now i do know DC/wb owns the trademarks of certain things like the modern S shield, and modern look of superman, as well as kryptonite, and alot of other elements. So who knows what will happen. Though alot have said its likely to just get settled between now and 2013 with the families so then they get more money from the character and wb/dc to be able to continue using all elements to superman.
I SEE SPIDEY
10-06-2009, 10:59 PM
Here's a new suggestion (I think!) for Clark Kent / Superman - Miles Fisher.
He's 26, and of a similar height and build to Henry Cavill. Needs some bulking up, but I think he has the 'look'. He has starred in Mad Men and more notably, Superhero Movie - where his Tom Cruise parody got a lot of praise. It's probably one of the best impersonations I've seen, so at least we know the guy has some kind of talent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjGmZJu8OnY
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lLsdaCVk3Kk/R-sYNPrQ8qI/AAAAAAAAOx8/w6qb43bKhCk/s320/MilesFisher02.jpgIn this picture, this guy actually does kinda look like Bale's brother.
NotFadeAway
10-07-2009, 02:30 PM
In this picture, this guy actually does kinda look like Bale's brother.
Yes he does.....
NotFadeAway
10-07-2009, 02:32 PM
I honestly can't tell you if the guy can act the part or not because I haven't seen much him in anything but Entourage, but Jordan Belfi might be an option based on his looks.
Belfi plays Adam Davies on Entourage and was in Moonlight, which I've never seen, and it seems like he recieved good reviews for his role on the show.
KalMart
10-07-2009, 06:01 PM
Here's a new suggestion (I think!) for Clark Kent / Superman - Miles Fisher.
He's 26, and of a similar height and build to Henry Cavill. Needs some bulking up, but I think he has the 'look'. He has starred in Mad Men and more notably, Superhero Movie - where his Tom Cruise parody got a lot of praise. It's probably one of the best impersonations I've seen, so at least we know the guy has some kind of talent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjGmZJu8OnY
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lLsdaCVk3Kk/R-sYNPrQ8qI/AAAAAAAAOx8/w6qb43bKhCk/s320/MilesFisher02.jpg
In this picture, this guy actually does kinda look like Bale's brother.
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5527/joinedp.jpg
willemjoker
10-07-2009, 06:02 PM
Oh dear god, I knew I recognised him! I don't know if I could take him seriously as Supes after his pitch-perfect nauseating ******* on Entourage.
SuperMike335!!
10-07-2009, 11:46 PM
I mentioned him like 100 pages ago but Hammer is probably the only known upcoming actor I could see having a realistic shot at this, while also meeting the physical requirements for the role.
He's 6'5 and only born in 1986, despite coming off as older.
Considering it's official that we won't get a Superman film into development until after 2013 at the earliest, someone in THAT age range is probably what we'll get.
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9238/armiehammer1.jpg
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/264/armiehammer.jpg http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5872/alo029948.jpg
Based on his acting style, he'd probably be the equivalent of how Brendan Fraser would have appeared in the role.
I agree entirely that his age is a big asset for him, as 2013 he still is young enough for 2 or 3 sequels.
He does have a deeper voice than Fraser, and also has a more masculine looking face as well. Being 6'5" does not hurt one bit.
Also is entirely possible given the amount of time on his side that he could bulk up for the role too.
I SEE SPIDEY
10-07-2009, 11:50 PM
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5527/joinedp.jpgHA! It's so true.
dark_b
10-08-2009, 01:16 AM
in other words you get a happy ''Bale'' version. :)
daywalker2007
10-08-2009, 03:20 AM
miles fisher looks just like Bale, its quite remarkable,
check out this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNFK1hlifQg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUUA2j5tqUg
Rodrigo90
10-08-2009, 05:51 AM
http://www.golfdigest.com/images/magazine/2007/06/ar01_finalexam0707.jpg
Brad Garrett as Bizarro
FilmNerdJamie
10-08-2009, 06:13 AM
I'm saving Garrett to play the monster along with Ray Romano as the mad scientist in my version of Frankenstein.
NotFadeAway
10-08-2009, 11:45 AM
For awhile now, I have thought Alexander Skarsgard should be cast as Aquaman. Well, screw Aquaman. If Skarsgard looked right with darkened hair, I think he could easily pull off both Superman and Clark Kent.
I'm still jealous of Green Lantern, I would take Martin Campbell as Director and Ryan Reynolds as Superman in a heartbeat compared with what we recieved with Returns and what rushewd piece of dreck we might recieve in the future.
And I can't believe I'm going to put the guy over, but Tom Welling has regressed as an actor to the point that I would rather have Routh return than see Welling on the big screen.
dark_b
10-08-2009, 12:10 PM
For awhile now, I have thought Alexander Skarsgard should be cast as Aquaman. Well, screw Aquaman. If Skarsgard looked right with darkened hair, I think he could easily pull off both Superman and Clark Kent.
I'm still jealous of Green Lantern, I would take Martin Campbell as Director and Ryan Reynolds as Superman in a heartbeat compared with what we recieved with Returns and what rushewd piece of dreck we might recieve in the future.
And I can't believe I'm going to put the guy over, but Tom Welling has regressed as an actor to the point that I would rather have Routh return than see Welling on the big screen.every blond men on this planet that has darkened hair and eyebrows looks fake. :awesome:
dark_b
10-08-2009, 12:11 PM
miles fisher looks just like Bale, its quite remarkable,
check out this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNFK1hlifQg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUUA2j5tqUghe does a fantastic crazy Tom Cruise :hehe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ6zEB5A_EA&feature=related
Webhead2006
10-08-2009, 12:51 PM
man at this rate i have no clue who i really would want playing the role. Since there is so many factors in play right now and we have no clue if/when another film is ever going to happen. Sure i wouldnt mind seeing cavill, boomer, hammer, and some other names we have been talking about. But at this rate pretty much all will likely not be looked at if we are waiting 5+ yrs or more. Besides hammer.
RachelDawes
10-08-2009, 03:40 PM
miles fisher looks just like Bale, its quite remarkable,
check out this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNFK1hlifQg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUUA2j5tqUg
I can't watch him now without thinking of his Tom Cruise impression.
Frodo
10-08-2009, 04:27 PM
They guy is a dead ringer for Tom Crusie:wow:. He could play him in a biopic .
FilmNerdJamie
10-08-2009, 04:42 PM
They guy is a dead ringer for Tom Crusie:wow:. He could play him in a biopic.
Too tall.
Webhead2006
10-08-2009, 07:36 PM
yea cruise is very very short if i recall right?
I SEE SPIDEY
10-09-2009, 07:47 AM
in other words you get a happy ''Bale'' version. :)Yeppers.
RachelDawes
10-09-2009, 01:28 PM
In this picture, this guy actually does kinda look like Bale's brother.
in other words you get a happy ''Bale'' version. :)
When I first saw him, I thought he looked like a muppet version of Bale. After that image and the Tom Cruise impression there's no way I can see Fisher as Superman. :hehe:
S.uperman
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Steve
see, now i feel dumb. somethin told me it would be somethin that i should've figured out easily.
oh i hate the character myself due to kristen's take on the character on smallville. Havent liked the character much since season 2/3 time frame. but for lana at most i would like to see a few smallville days scenes when clark was a teen and at least show his relationship to lana, pete ross, maybe how they learned about his powers. It would just be small short scenes at most for origins in smallville time. Though i wouldnt mind if they did have a adult lana lang show up down the road in a new film series to see whats up with the character maybe have her be a romantic foil to clark to add a dynamic going with lois/clark's love relationship or something.
dang man y does everybody hate the stuff i love, i actually liked kristen kreuk as lana in all seasons.
Timstuff
10-10-2009, 12:44 PM
Here's a new suggestion (I think!) for Clark Kent / Superman - Miles Fisher.
He's 26, and of a similar height and build to Henry Cavill. Needs some bulking up, but I think he has the 'look'. He has starred in Mad Men and more notably, Superhero Movie - where his Tom Cruise parody got a lot of praise. It's probably one of the best impersonations I've seen, so at least we know the guy has some kind of talent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjGmZJu8OnY
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lLsdaCVk3Kk/R-sYNPrQ8qI/AAAAAAAAOx8/w6qb43bKhCk/s320/MilesFisher02.jpg
Wow.
This guy could be the 'Brandon Routh' to Christian Bale's 'Christopher Reeve'
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4118/61444457.jpg
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/8269/musicvidpf2.jpg
Cast him as Batman if Bale ever jumps ship!
Acting Reel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNFK1hlifQg
Dang! If Bale steps down from playing Batman for Batman 4 (which he probably will), this guy certainly has potential to fill his shoes. :wow:
Webhead2006
10-10-2009, 12:45 PM
well cino i never had a problem with her during seasons 1 and 2 when she was just the girl next door character but by the the seasons 3-7, and her 5 episode arc in season 8 they just continuly put her character in stupid storylines and the whole draging out of the lana and clark relationship they just totally killed the character's likeablity to me.
\S/JcDc\S/
10-10-2009, 02:10 PM
Dang! If Bale steps down from playing Batman for Batman 4 (which he probably will), this guy certainly has potential to fill his shoes. :wow:
He reminds me a lot more of Tom Cruise's acting style.
yJ6zEB5A_EA
Timstuff
10-10-2009, 02:36 PM
Well he was essentially playing Tom Cruise in that movie, so for that role it was sort of to be expected. ;)
batman strikes
10-10-2009, 05:34 PM
How do you post pictures on the site? I just found one of Henry Cavill wearing Clark Kent like glasses, it kind of gives you an idea of what he might look like as Clark Kent.
http://henrycavillfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=2
You need to be registered to see the picture though.
batman44
10-10-2009, 06:09 PM
Is this the picture?
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/midnite4/DC%20comic%20casting/henry-cavill-neo2-magazine-06.jpg
batman strikes
10-10-2009, 06:35 PM
Yeah that's the one. Obviously that not exactly what he would look like if he played Clark Kent, but it gives you an idea what he looks like with glasses on.
batboy99
10-10-2009, 07:10 PM
Wow.
This guy could be the 'Brandon Routh' to Christian Bale's 'Christopher Reeve'
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4118/61444457.jpg
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/8269/musicvidpf2.jpg
Cast him as Batman if Bale ever jumps ship!
Acting Reel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNFK1hlifQgThat's not Bale? Holy crap that looks EXACTLY like him.
Webhead2006
10-10-2009, 07:33 PM
doesnt look bad with glasses.
RachelDawes
10-10-2009, 08:41 PM
How do you post pictures on the site? I just found one of Henry Cavill wearing Clark Kent like glasses, it kind of gives you an idea of what he might look like as Clark Kent.
http://henrycavillfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=2
You need to be registered to see the picture though.
You should host the picture at imageshack or photobucket or wherever and then put the URL in IMG tags.
batman strikes
10-11-2009, 12:37 AM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/midnite4/DC%20comic%20casting/henry-cavill-neo2-magazine-06.jpg
It was this picture that batman44 posted. But if you guys want me to put it on imageshack then I will.
MAN O STEEL
10-11-2009, 04:57 AM
I didn't really put alot of effort into this, I just wanted you guys to get an idea of what he'd look like sans beared 'n' long hair. Dunno if it helps, maybe someone else could give it a crack.
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7778/henrycavillneo2magazine.jpg (http://img514.imageshack.us/i/henrycavillneo2magazine.jpg/)
Steve
Timstuff
10-11-2009, 05:21 AM
Very nice! I already knew he looked like Superman, but it's quite reassuring to see that he looks like Clark too! :up:
Hurry up and make this darned movie, WB! :cmad:
Webhead2006
10-11-2009, 02:10 PM
yea will be a great day once the whole lawsuit thing is resolved so then production can actually get a dam move on.
He looks very Reeve'ish in that picture ^^ :up:
Nightwing1977
10-11-2009, 11:49 PM
Too tall.
They should make him small. Make him look small like the Hobbit in Lord of the Rings films. :D :D
Obviously that not exactly what he would look like if he played Clark Kent, but it gives you an idea what he looks like with glasses on.
With a beard & longer hair?? :wow:
Frodo
10-11-2009, 11:57 PM
I didn't really put alot of effort into this, I just wanted you guys to get an idea of what he'd look like sans beared 'n' long hair. Dunno if it helps, maybe someone else could give it a crack.
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7778/henrycavillneo2magazine.jpg (http://img514.imageshack.us/i/henrycavillneo2magazine.jpg/)
Steve
Totally screams CK. Good Work.:awesome:.
NotFadeAway
10-14-2009, 12:10 PM
Ditch the scarf and I'm digging it.
NotFadeAway
10-14-2009, 12:12 PM
So, are we basically looking for younger actors who will be ready for the part in 2013?
Webhead2006
10-14-2009, 12:41 PM
well we do know most studios want to go with younger guys so yea its likely be the 24-33/34 yrs old range by the time they will do a film again. Which we have no darn clue when that will be. So if its less then 5 yrs then year we are looking at folks who are likely 17-27yrs old presently who in the next few years would still be in the range they want. Then also we would need to know what type of film they are going with. Cause that would be a factor in casting too. Though hopefully when another film does happen it wont take forever to land the next superman/clark kent.
Young Superman
10-14-2009, 04:39 PM
If they went for a mature and older supermanhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=278235&page=4#), I think Michael Trucco would be perfect. He has the height (6'3), the voice, the commanding presense and a stunning resemblence to the Jim Lee Superman.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gPfXA7JgTxg/SlYoNzM0BoI/AAAAAAAALEU/792jqOZzRUg/s400/Michael-Trucco-719388-934.jpghttp://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/33405965_cd1a3b7bc3.jpg
Webhead2006
10-14-2009, 05:12 PM
some of us brought up his name months back. I would be curious to see what he could do with the character. Though we are likely not going to see a older superman film for a long while. Since they like going with younger guys and all that.
SuperMike335!!
10-14-2009, 06:14 PM
I'm not really concerned with trying to find specific actors to suggest, as likely the person cast will be unknown.
Its more important to get the right criteria to narrow down the field.
I know some folks here get so heart set on getting a specific actor they sort of become blind to other suggestions.
As I said, its more important to have the right criteria.
Webhead2006
10-14-2009, 06:43 PM
I wonder what type of search they will be looking for next go around for the character.
Young Superman
10-14-2009, 07:22 PM
My perfect Superman actor would be a his late 20s/early 30s a handsome, muscular man with chiseled features, 6'3" and 225 pounds. with ice blue eyes and jet black hair.
SuperMike335!!
10-14-2009, 10:17 PM
Id go similar, with the features and eye color. Straight nose, normal eye spacing size, square Jaw Clint Walker looking face or similar. Hair color really does not matter as it can black hair dye is cheap.
Obviously the guy has to be a decent actor, and have a deep but not gravel voice.
With a size range of 6'3" to 6’6" with a powerful build. I don't care how much they actually do weigh, so long as the build looks right.
Sourcebook stats on Superman vary, and its not like many of the aritist that have been drawing the character for years even bother to look up the source book stats. THey just draw (or paint) him looking like they feel he should look. Alex Ross Superman looks about 6’6" and very powerfully built, so does the Jim Lee version.
The DC encyclopedia I have lists Superman at 6'3" and 235", but I have seen in other source books 6'3" 225, 6'5" 250, and so on, so its not even consistent. I just go by the way I see him drawn and then go by what I think that ought to look like if fleshed out. Alex Ross is easy with his painting style that makes things look ultra real compared to the more cartoon type art.
Clint Walker was 6'6", and while offhand that may sound too tall, looking at Clint in videos, it seems like with a slight posture adjustment he would seem within the normal height range enough to just be a run of the mill, see them every day, big guy, and not a giant. He is the reason the top end of my range is 6'6". As far as build Clint weighed 255 as well, and still looked like he could have held even more muscle and not looked like a freak. But true weight of the actor really does not matter, so long as the build "looks" right on screen.
Rodrigo90
10-15-2009, 05:49 AM
Matthew G. Taylor as Superman
GreenKToo
10-15-2009, 07:33 AM
Makes me wonder if we dont see a ''name'' actor for the role next time. Not an A lister mind you, but one that the public would recognize.
Changeling
10-15-2009, 09:10 AM
I think thats what we'll get. Well get a bigger name I think.
GreenKToo
10-15-2009, 09:37 AM
I hope they go the BB route and have a stellar cast...
Get folks like Alec Baldwin for Perry
Dennis Quaid for Jonathan
Keifer Sutherland for Metallo.
Daniel Day-Lewis for Lex.
FilmNerdJamie
10-15-2009, 09:39 AM
For Superman/Clark Kent? Won't happen. Maybe not a flat-out unknown in the vein of Routh or Reeve. But maybe a lesser-known "that guy!" actor (in the vein of Tobey Maguire or just recently with Chris Pine).
But the role is considered a career-killer. That reputation won't go away anytime soon (if ever). You'll never see a "name" actor wearing the red-and-blue suit.
GreenKToo
10-15-2009, 09:42 AM
I hope they go the BB route and have a stellar cast...
Get folks like Alec Baldwin for Perry
Dennis Quaid for Jonathan
Keifer Sutherland for Metallo.
Daniel Day-Lewis for Lex.
Jim Caviezel for Jor-el
Get a cast similar to that and folks will come in droves.
GreenKToo
10-15-2009, 09:44 AM
For Superman/Clark Kent? Won't happen. Maybe not a flat-out unknown in the vein of Routh or Reeve. But maybe a lesser-known "that guy!" actor (in the vein of Tobey Maguire or just recently with Chris Pine).
But the role is considered a career-killer. That reputation won't go away anytime soon (if ever). You'll never see a "name" actor wearing the red-and-blue suit.
Your prolly right, but i'd love to see him surrounded by a similar cast like I posted above.
What about Daniel Gillies as Superman? He was in spider-man 2, he played J. Jonah jameson's son. He is 33, 5'11.
SuperMike335!!
10-15-2009, 10:01 AM
Matthew G. Taylor as Superman
He fits my Criteria well.:woot:
Good name drop.
All I had to do was say my Criteria, and you found someone that fits it that fast?
I never heard of the guy before, but he does have some acting credits over at imdb, and is still an unknown. He looks strong, and likely would in tight material, and in a suit he does not look like a Gorilla either.
He is 6'6", top of my range, but with a little posture and slouching he would look only about 6'3" or 6'4" as Clark.
The only thing is so far I have only seen him in roles where he was supposed to look imposing and menacing. His voice is very deep, that does not mean he could not come off as friendly however. I'd have to hear him sounding friendly to be completely sold, as Superman should only sound like what I have heard from Taylor when he is facing down a villain.
I think he should definitely get an audition. He does strike me as a good Alex Ross Superman, but maybe a bit younger. I'd say for a Role like Superman he would likely need to spend more of his time beforehand cutting weight, he would likely need to drop about 15 pounds, but that’s likely not too hard. Up the cardio, cut back on the calories a bit.
No these are not before and after pictures, they look like they were taken the same day. It illustrates well what I have said in the past about clothes that can easily hide muscle size and definition.
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6246/mv5bnta0nzqzntq1mv5bml5.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7083/mv5bmti4ntq4mty2nl5bml5.jpg
FilmNerdJamie
10-15-2009, 10:09 AM
They knew pretty early on the development of Superman Returns that they wanted Routh (i.e. WB nudged Singer in his direction and he agreed). So there wasn't much of a "search" back in 2004.
Since then, the playing-field for young unknown actors coming on the scene has grown quiet a bit from 2003 (the last full-blown casting search for the role under McG). As Showtime has said (...and said...) before, it won't be someone previously linked to the part. It'll be another fresh-faced unknown most likely.
I SEE SPIDEY
10-15-2009, 10:14 AM
For Superman/Clark Kent? Won't happen. Maybe not a flat-out unknown in the vein of Routh or Reeve. But maybe a lesser-known "that guy!" actor (in the vein of Tobey Maguire or just recently with Chris Pine).
But the role is considered a career-killer. That reputation won't go away anytime soon (if ever). You'll never see a "name" actor wearing the red-and-blue suit.The verdict is still out on Routh but all of the other Superman actors have fallen into a black hole after playing him.
FilmNerdJamie
10-15-2009, 10:21 AM
No "name" actor in their right mind will take the role - minus Nicolas Cage, obviously. Well-known and documented history of that. The selling point has never been (nor will it ever be) about whose wearing the red-and-blue, but Supes himself, the myth, etc.
For all the talk from executives, filmmakers and what not to the contrary, it'll always fall back to an unknown. For all the hatred Ratner gets from fanboy morons for X-Men: The Last Stand, even he had the right sense to push for one during his tenure on board. Ditto with McG.
I SEE SPIDEY
10-15-2009, 10:29 AM
No "name" actor in their right mind will take the role - minus Nicolas Cage, obviously. Well-known and documented history of that. The selling point has never been (nor will it ever be) about whose wearing the red-and-blue, but Supes himself, the myth, etc.
For all the talk from executives, filmmakers and what not to the contrary, it'll always fall back to an unknown. For all the hatred Ratner gets from fanboy morons for X-Men: The Last Stand, even he had the right sense to push for one during his tenure on board. Ditto with McG.Agreed.
SuperMike335!!
10-15-2009, 10:38 AM
Not that it has to be Matthew Taylor, but he is an unknown, and does have a good likeness to the Alex Ross Superman.
According to his Wiki page, he has gone back to school to further improve his acting skill. I still have to see him sounding not menacing. He has a very deep voice, but if he can sound freindly, like Walker (who also had a deep voice) then I would like to see him in the role.
Anyway, Unknown is still the way to go. I consider Taylor Unknown, but there may be another who nails it even better.
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/681/mathewgtaylorsuperman.jpg
GreenKToo
10-15-2009, 10:39 AM
I dont think we'll have to worry about it anytime soon...the way things are going the actor that will play him eventually is prolly still in diapers right now..
I kid of course but not really.
GreenKToo
10-15-2009, 10:46 AM
Daniel Cudmore maybe?? Lol, he might actually be too big..
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1005/danielcudmoreinberlinge.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/i/danielcudmoreinberlinge.jpg/)
SuperMike335!!
10-15-2009, 11:12 AM
Daniel Cudmore maybe?? Lol, he might actually be too big..
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1005/danielcudmoreinberlinge.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/i/danielcudmoreinberlinge.jpg/)
I've suggested him in the past. I would support the idea, as I think it is easy enough to make him look a few inches shorter as Clark.
The big reason people are not on board with it is they cannot imagine trying to make him look shorter than his 6'7". Some sources list him at 6'8", but his own myspace page said 6'7".
If its possible to make him seem just a few inches shorter as Clark maybe more people would not mind seeing him as Superman. He has the build, face, and voice, and can sound friendly.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6484/supermandanielcudmoresurt7.jpg
GreenKToo
10-15-2009, 11:17 AM
DAAANG!! that IS Superman right there..
SuperMike335!!
10-15-2009, 11:22 AM
One thing that really works with Cudmore is his build type. In tight fitting clothes, or shirtless he seems huge, while in regular clothes he seems average shape.
To make him seem just a bit shorter as Clark (and he can get away looking 6'4", as that is relatively common) Cudmore could slouch, and wear thin sole shoes.
Cast a taller actress (5'10" +) as Lois as well would help, let her wear heels, and Cudmore would seem as short as 6'3" or 6'4" when being Clark.
Webhead2006
10-15-2009, 12:15 PM
Some interesting names above. Yea personally i would love if the supporting cast like the kents/perry/lex luthor are some big quality names like we got in batman, to spiderman, to xmen/ ironman. As for superman yea they will likely never go with a big A lister name like a brad pitt or something like that, one reason probably would be their pay being to high and all. But hopefully they can get someone like as you guys said above who is maybe a doing well in stint in television work, or just getting big like pine before trek who has done some solid films not now is very popular due to trek, or toby was prior to doing spidey that would be nice. Should be an interesting ride what type of actor they want to go with. But yea there does seem to be the case playing superman/or superboy(late 80s live action show) hasnt been the best move career wise post superman roles.
GreenKToo
10-15-2009, 01:48 PM
lol, thats a damn bunch of yea's there webhead....
I'm just messing with ya.:twisted:
Nightwing1977
10-15-2009, 02:28 PM
Cudmore is way too tall. He is like 6' 9" & I prefer a natural 6' 2"-6'4" actor instead. Plus, why bother wasting money or using tricky camera angle whenever Cudmore is onscreen as Supes? It's cheaper to use the actor's height I suggested. Also, Cudmore isn't talented enough for the role along with having a gap teeth. If Clark has a gap teeth, people are going to figure out his secret identity once they see him flashing it as Supes. :p :hehe:
GreenKToo
10-15-2009, 03:26 PM
The height problem could be solved by using camera tricks like in LOtR's, forced perspective. Thats not expensive at all considering how much is usually spent on films like this.
and as for his teeth, well thats what dentists get paid to fix everyday.
It doesnt matter anyway. Cudmore is just one of dozens that will be discussed here for Supes, and we'll all most likely be wrong when the selection is finally made.
gar19rett
10-15-2009, 03:57 PM
I think Routh should get another chance he was good just a crappy story he was dealt
RachelDawes
10-15-2009, 04:15 PM
If we're casting young, why not Ethan Peck? He looks perfect for the role.
It sucks that Superman has a rep for being a career killer. We'll never see a big name actor in the role. *Fumes* :cmad:
dark_b
10-15-2009, 04:25 PM
If we're casting young, why not Ethan Peck? He looks perfect for the role.
It sucks that Superman has a rep for being a career killer. We'll never see a big name actor in the role. *Fumes* :cmad:
he he.............you serious?
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1675/35jvuy0.gif (http://img251.imageshack.us/i/35jvuy0.gif/)
Mostpowerful
10-15-2009, 04:58 PM
Not that it has to be Matthew Taylor, but he is an unknown, and does have a good likeness to the Alex Ross Superman.
According to his Wiki page, he has gone back to school to further improve his acting skill. I still have to see him sounding not menacing. He has a very deep voice, but if he can sound freindly, like Walker (who also had a deep voice) then I would like to see him in the role.
Anyway, Unknown is still the way to go. I consider Taylor Unknown, but there may be another who nails it even better.
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/681/mathewgtaylorsuperman.jpg
Ew, ugly and too rough for supes.
Daniel Cudmore maybe?? Lol, he might actually be too big..
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1005/danielcudmoreinberlinge.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/i/danielcudmoreinberlinge.jpg/)
I've suggested him in the past. I would support the idea, as I think it is easy enough to make him look a few inches shorter as Clark.
The big reason people are not on board with it is they cannot imagine trying to make him look shorter than his 6'7". Some sources list him at 6'8", but his own myspace page said 6'7".
If its possible to make him seem just a few inches shorter as Clark maybe more people would not mind seeing him as Superman. He has the build, face, and voice, and can sound friendly.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6484/supermandanielcudmoresurt7.jpg
This guy again, yeah, he is also too rough looking. Just not handsome or graceful enough for Supes. In short, he is kinda ugly for the character, imo. I like faces like Routh, Bomer. Supes needs to seem friendly, approacheable and likeable, as well as commanding when necessary.
Don't see it in these guys. There is not magic, nothing, just muscles.
bigbluefan
10-15-2009, 05:22 PM
This guy again, yeah, he is also too rough looking. Just not handsome or graceful enough for Supes. In short, he is kinda ugly for the character, imo. I like faces like Routh, Bomer. Supes needs to seem friendly, approacheable and likeable, as well as commanding when necessary.
Don't see it in these guys. There is not magic, nothing, just muscles.
Gotta agree with you, its more than about build and why its such a hard role to cast. It's a pity about Routh, he just looks so right for the part now, I can't think past him :dry:
SuperMike335!!
10-15-2009, 05:32 PM
Ew, ugly and too rough for supes.
This guy again, yeah, he is also too rough looking. Just not handsome or graceful enough for Supes. In short, he is kinda ugly for the character, imo. I like faces like Routh, Bomer. Supes needs to seem friendly, approacheable and likeable, as well as commanding when necessary.
Don't see it in these guys. There is not magic, nothing, just muscles.
In your Opinion they are too ugly for superman, your just saying that because you are anti-anyone who isn't Brandon Routh.
SuperMike335!!
10-15-2009, 05:38 PM
Cudmore is way too tall. He is like 6' 9" & I prefer a natural 6' 2"-6'4" actor instead. Plus, why bother wasting money or using tricky camera angle whenever Cudmore is onscreen as Supes? It's cheaper to use the actor's height I suggested. Also, Cudmore isn't talented enough for the role along with having a gap teeth. If Clark has a gap teeth, people are going to figure out his secret identity once they see him flashing it as Supes. :p :hehe:
His myspace page said 6'7", which is about an 1 inch over what my max was (my range was 6'3" to 6'6"), and being that he has the look, build, and voice, the only trick would be to make him seem 3" shorter as Clark, thats not so hard to do.
Dark_Lord
10-15-2009, 05:50 PM
In your Opinion they are too ugly for superman, your just saying that because you are anti-anyone who isn't Brandon Routh.
Hmm...
This guy again, yeah, he is also too rough looking. Just not handsome or graceful enough for Supes. In short, he is kinda ugly for the character, imo. I like faces like Routh, Bomer. Supes needs to seem friendly, approacheable and likeable, as well as commanding when necessary.
Don't see it in these guys. There is not magic, nothing, just muscles.
SuperMike335!!
10-15-2009, 06:39 PM
Hmm...
She considers the face of Bomer like Routh's.
So what? If its not Routh himself, she will want Actors like him. Thats her Opinion, she prefers the Routh look.
I think Superman should be more like the Clint Walker type, and the more like him someone is, the more I like them in the role.
If someone is a close match to Walker, she will just call them ugly looking, because she is baised toward boyish looking male actors like Routh.
The problem with Bomer is the same problem with Routh, when the rest of the Audience sees him, they will say "he doesn't look like Superman", because they expect someone who looks more Masculine.
SuperMike335!!
10-15-2009, 06:59 PM
These ladies don't seem to think hes ugly.
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/lc/twilight_party_070609/daniel_cudmore_2447197.jpg
Webhead2006
10-15-2009, 07:39 PM
i been saying it for awhile i would like to get away from the reeve/routh look for superman. So the next guy isnt stuck playing the character like past actors or what not. It would be great for the next guy to define and make a new look for his superman.
GreenKToo
10-15-2009, 07:49 PM
She considers the face of Bomer like Routh's.
So what? If its not Routh himself, she will want Actors like him. Thats her Opinion, she prefers the Routh look.
I think Superman should be more like the Clint Walker type, and the more like him someone is, the more I like them in the role.
If someone is a close match to Walker, she will just call them ugly looking, because she is baised toward boyish looking male actors like Routh.
The problem with Bomer is the same problem with Routh, when the rest of the Audience sees him, they will say "he doesn't look like Superman", because they expect someone who looks more Masculine.
Well, it really doesnt matter what I, she, or anyone else thinks. All that matters is what WB thinks and they seem to be wanting to get away from the donnerverse, and I take that to mean that the reeve and routh look is probably gone as well.
Aparna
10-15-2009, 08:10 PM
At Mostpowerful - I'm not going to agree/disagree with you, but just because someone doesn't like SR doesn't mean they're not a superman fan ;) Ahh that was page one and we're on 49 now so whaaatever.
I don't really like Matthew Taylor, he's ermmm... not superman.
I hope no one laughs at me but I did like Tom Welling as Superman in Smallville. I don't know if he'd be good for the movie because he's not exactly superman in many peoples' eyes but still... that's just my opinion. Not forcing everyone to agree with me haha
Lucid
10-15-2009, 08:50 PM
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I Am Jack's...
10-15-2009, 09:16 PM
Brandon Routh. I don't think any other choices are better. He's got the height, build, look, and I think he has great promise as an actor. I for one loved his performance in SR, and he will only improve as the years go by.
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/12037/brandon%20superman.jpg
I do like Cavill as well, but he's the next Batman IMO.
Michelle Monaghan - Lois Lane
Colm Feore - Lex Luthor
nintendo nerd
10-15-2009, 09:43 PM
He fits my Criteria well.:woot:
Good name drop.
All I had to do was say my Criteria, and you found someone that fits it that fast?
I never heard of the guy before, but he does have some acting credits over at imdb, and is still an unknown. He looks strong, and likely would in tight material, and in a suit he does not look like a Gorilla either.
He is 6'6", top of my range, but with a little posture and slouching he would look only about 6'3" or 6'4" as Clark.
The only thing is so far I have only seen him in roles where he was supposed to look imposing and menacing. His voice is very deep, that does not mean he could not come off as friendly however. I'd have to hear him sounding friendly to be completely sold, as Superman should only sound like what I have heard from Taylor when he is facing down a villain.
I think he should definitely get an audition. He does strike me as a good Alex Ross Superman, but maybe a bit younger. I'd say for a Role like Superman he would likely need to spend more of his time beforehand cutting weight, he would likely need to drop about 15 pounds, but that’s likely not too hard. Up the cardio, cut back on the calories a bit.
No these are not before and after pictures, they look like they were taken the same day. It illustrates well what I have said in the past about clothes that can easily hide muscle size and definition.
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6246/mv5bnta0nzqzntq1mv5bml5.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7083/mv5bmti4ntq4mty2nl5bml5.jpg
Doesn't look like Superman at all. Superman has to look friendly, kind. I wouldn't trust this guy at all.
SuperMike335!!
10-15-2009, 09:50 PM
Well, it really doesnt matter what I, she, or anyone else thinks. All that matters is what WB thinks and they seem to be wanting to get away from the donnerverse, and I take that to mean that the reeve and routh look is probably gone as well.
I will not miss him.
I never felt that Routh looked like Superman.
He never seemed like what I imagine Superman to for me.
The Presence of Routh that I got felt like Jason Biggs.
Again, I don’t really think we, those of us on this forum, will be finding the Actor that ends up getting the role at the end of the day.
Superman should be tall, powerfully built, like a world class athlete, with chiseled facial features, he should seem friendly, but at the same time imposing when he needs to be.
We can list the criteria we feel the actor should have, or an example of the "type" of Actor, but I think there is someone who would floor the audience with Superman presence that nobody has heard of here.
Doesn't look like Superman at all. Superman has to look friendly, kind. I wouldn't trust this guy at all.
I think he has the right kind of facial features, and is a good example of how a physique can look powerful, yet in normal clothes be hidden. That being said, in his showreel, he comes off as too imposing. Not untrustworthy, but menacing, with a scary voice.
Thats why I said I would need to see him being able to seem friendly.
Webhead2006
10-15-2009, 10:12 PM
Yea i see nothing wrong with that guy supermike mentioned earlier. I dont know his work, but his look/body i think are ok.
SuperMike335!!
10-15-2009, 10:29 PM
Yea i see nothing wrong with that guy supermike mentioned earlier. I dont know his work, but his look/body i think are ok.
It was actually Rodrigo90 who mentioned him.
I just looked up the pictures on imdb, and thought he had a look close to my criteria. That was based off of the pictures however.
The reason I am not sold however is that Matthew G. Taylor comes off as threatening and too imposing in his video showreel. I have not seen any work of his where he seems friendly.
I have said Daniel Cudmore in the past, credit goes to GreenKToo who suggested him this time, and still think he would work. What I like about him is he reminds me of Clint Walker, who is what I imagine Superman to be like more than any other real person. Being that Clint himself is too old to play the role today, I think his traits make good criteria.
Really though it would work better, to find 100 unknown actors who are similar to Walker, then narrow the field down from there.
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4006/clintwalker001.jpg
There has to be a number of guys who look like this today, who can also act.
Webhead2006
10-15-2009, 10:34 PM
well hopefully next go around they look at alot of different qualities and find that person/persons that are testing in the role come that time in the future.
Supermike, who are some present day actors you think fit the bill of that clint walker guy?
RachelDawes
10-15-2009, 10:50 PM
he he.............you serious?
You think he doesn't? He's 6'1", has dark hair, kind of resembles Routh. I don't know about his acting skills but I think he's got a Superman look to him.
SuperMike335!!
10-15-2009, 11:04 PM
well hopefully next go around they look at alot of different qualities and find that person/persons that are testing in the role come that time in the future.
Supermike, who are some present day actors you think fit the bill of that clint walker guy?
I don't know of any other than Cudmore off the top of my head, mostly because they would be unknown to start with.
I'm not even sure what database too look for them on. Doing a google search using the criteria is difficult, as you end up getting all sorts of the wrong stuff, or big-names who are unfit for the role.
I am confident there is not just one, but a decent amount that have a close enough look that would make a good Superman, and can act, but finding them on google is a needle in a hay stack.
Likely the best way to find them would be for WB to list the look of Clint Walker or Similar when doing the casting auditions, and put the word out so that enough men will come in for an audition, that they can start to narrow down the list then, using the correct criteria.
Webhead2006
10-15-2009, 11:11 PM
ok i thought you had a few more names to throw out. But yea if they clearly make a clear list of details they want i am sure there is tons of unknown and semi known actors/soon to be actors out there to test from. But hopefully when the next film tests for roles they dont have to take forever to land clark/superman.
Nightwing1977
10-15-2009, 11:50 PM
Henry Cavill. Wow. I'm still flabbergasted by people who don't see Superman/Clark Kent in this guy.
And I'm flabbergasted you don't see Routh as Superman/Clark Kent. See the difference there? Why you care if there are many others who don't want him for the role? :doh:
Beside, I can't judge him just on look like some are here. I have to see his audition test for Supes first & then playing him in the film. For all we know he might be a good actor, but terrible as Supes. You can be a great actor & still suck at playing certain characters. No actor is perfect.
Webhead2006
10-15-2009, 11:52 PM
who knows how cavill would be/could have been as superman if he had the role.
Young Superman
10-16-2009, 12:55 AM
I don't think that this moivie is gonna happen for a long time.
Webhead2006
10-16-2009, 01:03 AM
probably so its likely going to be another long wait like it was in 90s/early 00s.
Rodrigo90
10-16-2009, 06:10 AM
I still say Sam Worthington
GreenKToo
10-16-2009, 06:47 AM
I don't think that this moivie is gonna happen for a long time.
DING! DING! DING!....Winner.
elgaz
10-16-2009, 06:50 AM
I think Victor Webster was brought up in the old casting thread? No idea what his acting is like, but looks wise he isn't far off. He's 36 and 6"3.
http://img08.pics.livedoor.com/008/0/d/0de3025a12577ce3d5a9-L.jpg
http://www.celebopedia.net/victor-webster/images/victor-webster.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l277/MagykGurl/Collision%20of%20the%20Covenants/victorwebster-coop2.jpg
GreenKToo
10-16-2009, 06:52 AM
He was who I was wanting back in the SR casting days.
GreenKToo
10-16-2009, 06:54 AM
Its kinda hard to suggest certain actors untill we know exactly what they wanna do...
Origin? or an older established Superman?
dark_b
10-16-2009, 09:55 AM
what is the difference between fanboy internet casting and director casting?
the difference is that when directors cast actors they see this :
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9238/auditionphotos.jpg (http://img80.imageshack.us/i/auditionphotos.jpg/)
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2203/supermanv.jpg (http://img65.imageshack.us/i/supermanv.jpg/)
they see the actor giving their interpretation for the role. they see them saying the lines from the script.
what can we the fanboys do? we can only look at previous roles from the actors. when an actor acted like superman then we can see it. we will never look at an actor who played an autistic boy who trained hes cow to win a horse race. this could be the guy who made a big impression on the casting day . but of course we will not look at him.
maybe an actor who was in 2 bad movies made an big impression on the director. maybe he nailed the character. but of course we dont know because we only have 2 bad movies to judge hes whole acting.
maybe an actor with a black wig looks like superman. but of course he always shaves hes head so we will never know. they will know because they will put on him a cheap wig. we will only see hes shaved ugly head.
what am i trying to say? that those threads are fun. but they are what they are . i mean just look at some actors here. after 10 years fanboys still think that the actor needs to have big muscles to be cast as superman. didnt history showed us that the actor can gain muscle mass?
stop looking at actors who are 6'4,blue eyes,black hair ,210 and come from kansas(joke). stop looking for gwen a blond girl. every girl can become blond. stop looking for MJ a redhead actress.
Right now, I'd be happy with any of the following, in no specific order except the first
Brandon Routh
Matthew Bomer
Jared Padalecki
Eion Bailey
Daniel Cudmore
David Boreanaz
Wentworth Miller
Jim Caviezel
Josh Duhamel
Obviosuly the list gets narrowed depending on if they want to start again from the origin or have an established Supes.
Blackman
10-16-2009, 10:06 AM
My ideal casting is a Routhboot but I wouldnt mind if these guys are cast in a Superman origin series. Established Supes I would have to go with Jim Caviezel
http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/Fannboi/Supes/ALO-029948.jpg
http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/Fannboi/Supes/alo-057482.jpg
GreenKToo
10-16-2009, 10:14 AM
I'd add michael trucco to my list.
You cant rule anyone in or out at this point.
Webhead2006
10-16-2009, 10:47 AM
well i think we can probably rule out any one over 35... even though their is some guys i like over that age range. But if/when next film happens its going to probably be a proper reboot to film series. Now the only question will be is it going to be a just fresh to the scene superman origin flix, or if he is going to be an established superman of maybe a year or two and we gets flashs to first days.......
moguy
10-16-2009, 10:51 AM
More confirmation that Routh is out.
And the WB isn't shying away from Routh because they don't like him - in fact, "they love him" - but because "they want the next Superman movie to be its own beast. Unlike Superman Returns, it's not going to be a homage to the Dick Donner movies. They're thinking bigger - bigger names, bigger movie"
http://www.moviehole.net/200921064-caffeinated-clint-one-offs
Webhead2006
10-16-2009, 11:28 AM
that was talked about the other day moguy.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Routh get the lead in another franchise at WB
SuperMike335!!
10-16-2009, 12:28 PM
ok i thought you had a few more names to throw out. But yea if they clearly make a clear list of details they want i am sure there is tons of unknown and semi known actors/soon to be actors out there to test from. But hopefully when the next film tests for roles they dont have to take forever to land clark/superman.
I hope it does not take too long as well.
At the same time I would rather they not rush it too.
RachelDawes
10-16-2009, 12:29 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Routh get the lead in another franchise at WB
It sounds that way, especially when the execs carry on with how much they love him. At least he'll never lack for work.
Nightwing1977
10-16-2009, 01:22 PM
I don't think that this moivie is gonna happen for a long time.
Sadly, it look like it's going that way. Unless WB stop waiting & give it another chance with a right story and a good scriot. :(
Ratner's top choice was Matthew Bomer, not Cavill. He was passed up twice for Superman Returns and then later for Justice League: Mortal. He won't be putting the red and blue suit on.
He was also passed up for the role of Hal Jordan.
Blackman
10-16-2009, 04:39 PM
Was he also passed up for Batman?
I heard he was then I heard he wasnt but everywhere says he was
Also was passed of for Bond
Personally I hope he ends up being Bats and Bond
Yes, his name came up at some point during the Begins casting phase, obviously he didn't get it. The role I like him for is Namor.
FilmNerdJamie
10-16-2009, 05:04 PM
Apparently, he didn't make it past the first round for Green Lantern. Don't know about Batman Begins, but he wasn't one of the finalists.
Aparna
10-16-2009, 05:30 PM
Wasn't Victor Webster in Charmed? And I'd like to see Lois Lane recast, I don't really like Kate Bosworth at all
batman44
10-16-2009, 06:08 PM
He never auditioned for Batman, he said so himself.
Also what's the deal with two Superman casting threads?
I Am Jack's...
10-16-2009, 06:12 PM
Wasn't Victor Webster in Charmed? And I'd like to see Lois Lane recast, I don't really like Kate Bosworth at all
I think we can all agree to that :yay:
Michelle Monaghan for Lois!
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/12037/lane%20monaghan.jpg
Frodo
10-16-2009, 06:47 PM
Funny enough, I think the Mentalist's Owain Yeoman is a dead ringer for the Superman for All Seasons drawing of Supes. He has kinda looks like he was drawn by Tim Sale and I actually think he could do a good acting job but too many would be against him because of his looks I think . But if they were ever going for the Daniel Craig , outside the box type of Casting , I'd go with him.
Showtime
10-16-2009, 07:45 PM
Out of left field a bit, but Johann Urb...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/IronGiant29/Johann-Urb-e01.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/IronGiant29/eastwick_urb_gallery_primary.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/IronGiant29/urb.jpg
Young Superman
10-16-2009, 08:32 PM
Funny enough, I think the Mentalist's Owain Yeoman is a dead ringer for the Superman for All Seasons drawing of Supes. He has kinda looks like he was drawn by Tim Sale and I actually think he could do a good acting job but too many would be against him because of his looks I think . But if they were ever going for the Daniel Craig , outside the box type of Casting , I'd go with him.
http://www.topnews.in/files/images/Owain-Yeoman1.jpghttp://www.coverbrowser.com/image/superman-for-all-seasons/1-1.jpg
He really does look like the for all seasons Superman nice find.:up:
I SEE SPIDEY
10-16-2009, 09:24 PM
Out of left field a bit, but Johann Urb...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/IronGiant29/Johann-Urb-e01.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/IronGiant29/eastwick_urb_gallery_primary.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/IronGiant29/urb.jpgNever seen his acting but he does have a decent look.
Webhead2006
10-16-2009, 09:42 PM
what has he done show? he has an interesting look but i know nothing about him or his acting skills.
I Am Jack's...
10-16-2009, 10:00 PM
Personally, I think Yeoman would make a pretty good Captain Marvel, but he isn't my first choice for that role.
But he is a dead ringer for that version of Supes which Young Superman posted.
Webhead2006
10-16-2009, 10:52 PM
i agree there he does look pretty simular to that superman drawing. wasnt Yeoman in a few episode of TSCC?
Jake Cassidy
10-17-2009, 12:20 AM
Personally, I think Yeoman would make a pretty good Captain Marvel, but he isn't my first choice for that role.
But he is a dead ringer for that version of Supes which Young Superman posted.
Yeah, I was thinking that he'd be a good Captain Marvel too. :yay:
Jake Cassidy
10-17-2009, 12:20 AM
i agree there he does look pretty simular to that superman drawing. wasnt Yeoman in a few episode of TSCC?
He was in the first episode. He was the terminator pretending to be the teacher. :yay:
Webhead2006
10-17-2009, 12:27 AM
I thought it was that guy.
Frodo
10-17-2009, 12:37 AM
He's a pretty good actor too and he pulls of an American accent well. He's a big guy, but he does have a gentle giant/goofy quality to him at least on Mentalist.
Webhead2006
10-17-2009, 12:48 AM
how old is he?
dark_b
10-17-2009, 04:50 AM
Out of left field a bit, but Johann Urb...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/IronGiant29/Johann-Urb-e01.jpg
he is nto full blond so making hes hair black wouldnt be so bad. we would have to see him with dark hair. hes face looks good. good chin and godo facial features. he is not super skinny which means that in 4-6 months he would be able to gain enough muscle mass for the man of steel.
Frodo
10-17-2009, 09:46 AM
how old is he?
He's 31 and he's 6'4 according to imdb.
SuperMike335!!
10-17-2009, 10:58 AM
Not really digging Owain Yeoman.
While he may resmeble the Superman for Allseasons art, I was not a big fan of that type of Art.
I like the Jim Lee version the best, then Alex Ross.
Webhead2006
10-17-2009, 11:16 AM
thanks frodo.
Frodo
10-17-2009, 01:36 PM
No problem Webhead2006. I like Owain because he has all the qualities for Supes yet he has a different look from Reeve or Welling . At the same time, He has a presence and I could believe he is Superman as opposed to an younger actor trying to convey those qualities. Then again , the next film isn't for years away so he'd be out of contention but I think he'd be good. He'd be different in terms of looks, but I see that as a positive.
Young Superman
10-17-2009, 01:53 PM
Not really digging Owain Yeoman.
While he may resmeble the Superman for Allseasons art, I was not a big fan of that type of Art.
I like the Jim Lee version the best, then Alex Ross.
I like the version John Byrne the best, then Gary Frank.
KalMart
10-17-2009, 04:29 PM
http://www.topnews.in/files/images/Owain-Yeoman1.jpghttp://www.coverbrowser.com/image/superman-for-all-seasons/1-1.jpg
He really does look like the for all seasons Superman nice find.:up:
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4232/leno.jpg
Frodo
10-17-2009, 04:54 PM
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4232/leno.jpg
Don't see it .:cwink:. I think Conan would make an excellent Luthor.
\S/JcDc\S/
10-17-2009, 06:40 PM
I think we can all agree to that :yay:
Michelle Monaghan for Lois!
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/12037/lane%20monaghan.jpg
She's ok, but I still think fanboys had it right the first time when everyone unified on the choice of Evangeline Lilly for Lois. Now we have new choices then that would work, but I do believe she would have fit well.
\S/JcDc\S/
10-17-2009, 06:42 PM
More confirmation that Routh is out.
http://www.moviehole.net/200921064-caffeinated-clint-one-offs
Months ago I had talked with Showtime about this, not only did they want a big name but it was to the point that "If they could get Brad Pitt, they would probably do it" (which didn't mean he was their top choice, but that they decided bringing in big names instead of unknowns would be a good idea)
Go big or go home philosophy I suppose :o
Nightwing1977
10-18-2009, 12:10 AM
Don't see it .:cwink:. I think Conan would make an excellent Luthor.
Actually, Conan would be a great Jimmy Olsen. In fact, he is actually Jimmy if he is in his 40s & is very tall. :D :D
Man of Tomorrow
10-18-2009, 01:00 AM
So here's an up and coming actor who could work in the role after bulking up
Brian Hallisay (6'2)
He looks different enough compared to Reeve/Routh.
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5161/brianhallisay04.jpg http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9040/foreverblue4.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9640/rprivledged.jpg
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/883/hal1k.png
Alien Anal
10-18-2009, 03:57 AM
http://www.topnews.in/files/images/Owain-Yeoman1.jpghttp://www.coverbrowser.com/image/superman-for-all-seasons/1-1.jpg
He really does look like the for all seasons Superman nice find.:up:
I would love to see a Superman movie that doesnt contain a superman that looks like he is from 90210 (Reeve doesnt, i know)
This would deff be a major departure from the previous stuff
MAN O STEEL
10-18-2009, 06:35 AM
I would love to see a Superman movie that doesnt contain a superman that looks like he is from 90210 (Reeve doesnt, i know)
This would deff be a major departure from the previous stuff
True, but going as far as to cast a guy who looks like Joey from Full House is going a bit far isn't it?. Just sayin :cwink::hehe:
Steve
Webhead2006
10-18-2009, 01:03 PM
not a bad new name man of tomorrow, dont really know his work. I think i might have seen something he did but i dont recall right now. As for the look i said myself many times i would really love if the next guy to play the role isnt looking like reeve or forced to look/act like reeve's superman. I would love if the next guy got to define the character for himself and have an all new look to build his version upon. But sure we need to have 6'0+ muscular, dark hair and either blue eyes/can pull off blue contacts good. But we dont need to have a carbon copy look again.
Nightwing1977
10-18-2009, 02:29 PM
True, but going as far as to cast a guy who looks like Joey from Full House is going a bit far isn't it?. Just sayin :cwink::hehe:
Steve
Ha ha!! He does almost look like Dave Coulier. :funny:
Blackman
10-18-2009, 03:22 PM
On the left are my top choices on the right are my 2nd choices
http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/Fannboi/Supes/untitled5.jpg
http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/Fannboi/Supes/untitled2.jpg
http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/Fannboi/Supes/untitled-3.jpg
RachelDawes
10-18-2009, 04:08 PM
He never auditioned for Batman, he said so himself.
Also what's the deal with two Superman casting threads?
I guess the first casting thread assumed there'd be a sequel.
SuperMike335!!
10-18-2009, 05:19 PM
not a bad new name man of tomorrow, dont really know his work. I think i might have seen something he did but i dont recall right now. As for the look i said myself many times i would really love if the next guy to play the role isnt looking like reeve or forced to look/act like reeve's superman. I would love if the next guy got to define the character for himself and have an all new look to build his version upon. But sure we need to have 6'0+ muscular, dark hair and either blue eyes/can pull off blue contacts good. But we dont need to have a carbon copy look again.
Yep.
Even then, a platnum blond guy could still be made to look black hair with Hair dye done by the Pros.
Its not that hard to do. The pros who work on makeup can sort all that stuff out.
We need the:
1. Ability to act in the role
2. The proper face
3. The proper voice
4. Be in the correct height range
5. The correct build or close enough they could have it by film time
Opinions will vary on what the above is however (many of us think what superman should be like differently)
Eye color and hair color are both not important is they can be changed easily and convincingy.
If the actor has black hair and blue eyes great, thats wonderful, but not a must have.
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