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SuperMike335!!
10-18-2009, 05:35 PM
On the left are my top choices on the right are my 2nd choices

http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/Fannboi/Supes/untitled5.jpg



I'd take Hammer over Padalecki 10 fold.

I used to be ok with padalecki until I saw his side profile. He looks like an Elf way too much.

Hammer has one of the best faces I have seen for Superman.

All he needs to do is muscle up, and that is easily doable with how much time he has before filming would start.

His Masculine face already apparent with being very young helps too, and he would still be young enough for several sequels to tell an Epic Story.

In videos he has a perfect voice too. No thick accent, deep but friendly. Casting him for Batman was a huge mistake. Reminds me of the Worlds Finest where Superman had the Batman costume on when Batman was missing.

Armie Hammer even soundly like a strong name. Very good casting choice for Superman.

He is also my current favorite for the role, with my second choice being Cudmore.

http://www.gossipgirlreport.com/files/2009/02/allstarphotos131005-armie-hammer-gossip-girl-newscom.jpg

SuperMike335!!
10-18-2009, 05:54 PM
One more thing.

If I were Armie Hammer I would go find the Barber who trimmed my right sideburn 1" more than the other, before the above picture was taken, and punch him in the face. :woot:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4590750650781865649&ei=EJvbSsiAFInYrQK4sLToBg&q=punch+in+the+face#

\S/JcDc\S/
10-18-2009, 05:56 PM
One more thing.

If I were Armie Hammer I would go find the Barber who trimmed my right sideburn 1" more than the other, before the above picture was taken, and punch him in the face. :woot:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4590750650781865649&ei=EJvbSsiAFInYrQK4sLToBg&q=punch+in+the+face#


Maybe he did that himself shaving.

SuperMike335!!
10-18-2009, 08:53 PM
Maybe he did that himself shaving.

HHHHUUFF ***exhales***

YoU...killed...my...joke...:doh:

KalMart
10-18-2009, 08:59 PM
I would love to see a Superman movie that doesnt contain a superman that looks like he is from 90210 (Reeve doesnt, i know)

This would deff be a major departure from the previous stuff

At the same time, I hope that they don't go for some grotesque comic-booky, hulking roid-monster or the like. Supes in live-action should be tall and well-built, but not body-builder big, and not stand out as being three times the size of everyone else even while dressed as Clark Kent.

SuperMike335!!
10-19-2009, 08:42 AM
At the same time, I hope that they don't go for some grotesque comic-booky, hulking roid-monster or the like. Supes in live-action should be tall and well-built, but not body-builder big, and not stand out as being three times the size of everyone else even while dressed as Clark Kent.


Bodybuilder big is vague anyway, but I figure you are talking about the 300 pound looking, modern day steroid abusers.

Clark can be a big guy however. No not a Giant, certainly not 3x the size of other actors around him, I mean a run of the mill big guy. Someone who looks relatively thick (not like a Gorilla, but a thick man) in a suit who is around 6'4" is still well within the normal variation of human size, guys that size are a dime a dozen.

I stand by my point that if they have someone who looks like a modern Clint Walker, or similar type, rugged, tall, and strong (but not steroid abuser big), that would be a good combination, and would not be anything like what we see on the 90210 type.

elgaz
10-19-2009, 08:52 AM
It's strange, after 51 pages of this thread (and God knows how many in the last incarnation), I still haven't seen many actors who really nail the Superman look like Welling and Routh. The jury may be out on their acting (though personally I like them both, though I know not everyone else does) but they certainly have the right mixture of height, build, facial structure, but also that hard-to-find friendly but determined look. It shows just how hard it is to find that actor...............

nintendo nerd
10-19-2009, 09:19 AM
http://www.topnews.in/files/images/Owain-Yeoman1.jpghttp://www.coverbrowser.com/image/superman-for-all-seasons/1-1.jpg
He really does look like the for all seasons Superman nice find.:up:

http://sketchfu.com/images/drawings/33210.png

SuperMike335!!
10-19-2009, 10:22 AM
http://armie-hammer.com/media/billy/04.jpg

http://talking-gossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/armie-hammer1.jpg

My current first choice is Armie Hammer.

6'4"-6'5" and in good physical shape, should add more muscle before filming however.

Has a very good voice for the role, and seems to be a very skilled actor.

Look up some of his showreel.

Being 23 or 24 leaves him young enough to be young enough for several sequels as well.

Webhead2006
10-19-2009, 12:03 PM
i wouldnt be against jared or armie(totally agree he was wrong for batman).

Webhead2006
10-19-2009, 12:29 PM
yea that is why i keep saying myself we should have an all new look for superman. Sure needs to be built(classic body builder body) wide frame, good height 6'0-6'5 range, etc....

nintendo nerd
10-19-2009, 12:38 PM
yea that is why i keep saying myself we should have an all new look for superman. Sure needs to be built(classic body builder body) wide frame, good height 6'0-6'5 range, etc....

No.

Superman's look wasn't the problem in SR. Most of the audiences liked the way Supes looked.

NotFadeAway
10-19-2009, 12:41 PM
What I would give for Matthew Bomer to be taller, I really think he could nail the role. I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I don't care.

FilmNerdJamie
10-19-2009, 12:43 PM
The height issue didn't stop them from casting Daniel Craig as 007, and he worked out. An understatement, I know.

nintendo nerd
10-19-2009, 12:43 PM
http://armie-hammer.com/media/billy/04.jpg

http://talking-gossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/armie-hammer1.jpg

My current first choice is Armie Hammer.

6'4"-6'5" and in good physical shape, should add more muscle before filming however.



Has a very good voice for the role, and seems to be a very skilled actor.

Look up some of his showreel.

Being 23 or 24 leaves him young enough to be young enough for several sequels as well.

He looks very feminine.

KalMart
10-19-2009, 12:43 PM
Bodybuilder big is vague anyway, but I figure you are talking about the 300 pound looking, modern day steroid abusers.

And much of comic depictions in general, yes. Reeve at his largest is a good start for what could work well....not that we should look for another Reeve again, but physique-wise. As far as face/look....moving him out of his early-to-mid-twenties would be a good start towards avoiding the pretty-boy/'90210' look.

Webhead2006
10-19-2009, 12:53 PM
yup a good strong body like those classic body builder supermike and others talk about would be good/reeve's best supes body. But face wise i dont want another reeve looking good. As i said it would be great to finally step away from reeve's look to be the be all end all look for superman. Sure its a great look and all that. And has define the character for the past 30 yrs give or take. But its time for something new and all that.

NotFadeAway
10-19-2009, 12:57 PM
The height issue didn't stop them from casting Daniel Craig as 007, and he worked out. An understatement, I know.

So true.....Personally, I would just film around Bomer's shortcoming, but I can only imagine the hell that would unleash on this board.

Spider-Fan83
10-19-2009, 12:57 PM
He looks very feminine.
you must have some ugly woman around where your from if you think that’s feminine

Webhead2006
10-19-2009, 01:07 PM
in that one small picture above to me only thing that looks feminine is his lips, but in general i dont think of hammer as a girlie looking guy, really i think its probably due to his youthful looks at being only 22-24 right now right? But yea i would be down with him for clark kent/superman. Bulk up a bit and he would probably look great in the right suit.

I SEE SPIDEY
10-19-2009, 02:07 PM
http://sketchfu.com/images/drawings/33210.png:funny: Never blunt, are ya Nintendo Nerd?

elgaz
10-19-2009, 02:14 PM
Has that troll not been banned yet?

bruce_kent
10-19-2009, 03:04 PM
My suggestions:


http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/12037/lois%20monaghan.jpg

Michelle Monaghan as Lois Lane





http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/35895/917355-zane_is_luthor_super.jpg

Billy Zane as Lex Luthor


Bye

nintendo nerd
10-19-2009, 03:23 PM
you must have some ugly woman around where your from if you think that’s feminine

Not really. Mexico has some beautiful and sexy women. I'm lucky to have one. of those. :cwink:

nintendo nerd
10-19-2009, 03:24 PM
Has that troll not been banned yet?

Why am I a troll? Because I disagree with those horrible suggestions for Superman? We can and deserve someone better. So far,only Cavill looks the part. IMO.

nintendo nerd
10-19-2009, 03:26 PM
:funny: Never blunt, are ya Nintendo Nerd?

:yay:

Nightwing1977
10-19-2009, 03:32 PM
http://sketchfu.com/images/drawings/33210.png

That is uh...disturbing. What with you? :p :hehe:

SuperMike335!!
10-19-2009, 04:09 PM
Why am I a troll? Because I disagree with those horrible suggestions for Superman? We can and deserve someone better. So far,only Cavill looks the part. IMO.

You think this guy looks masculine: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BlQ-APA-U0A/Sjpan8qZB8I/AAAAAAAAA40/CJEs_5C0hpc/s400/Henry+Cavill+is+Upstreet+Sexy.jpg

And this guy is efeminate?

http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/arnie-hammer-as-morgan.jpg

SuperMike335!!
10-19-2009, 04:16 PM
Here are a few clips from Billy Graham the early years its a story about an preacher

http://www.tangle.com/view_video?viewkey=b62b0f6fe2c18482a3b3


Yeah very um, efeminate...:whatever:

Blackman
10-19-2009, 05:00 PM
Watch Hammer in Reaper he's much better. Billy Graham loooked like hot garbage imo. He's my top choice now

In regards to Bomer: I actually like him. I cant wait for the White Collar premiere. Looks like another great USA show that will go unnoticed by major award shows but I'll love it. But yeah for me Height is a problem

In regards to Cavill: Same thing as Bomer. I like him as an actor but IMO doesnt have the build. Hope he eventually gets to play Bats and/or Bond

Blackman
10-19-2009, 05:03 PM
i wouldnt be against jared or armie(totally agree he was wrong for batman).
Yeah it really seemed like they got the Batman and Superman casting reversed

Man of Tomorrow
10-19-2009, 05:23 PM
Hammer is such an out of the box choice for Superman but he has the potential to be a great one. Very different than Reeve, but could probably do his own take on Superman.

He's a really talented actor and has the right height at 6'5.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/264/armiehammer.jpg
http://static.episode39.it/character/2926.jpg


And he definitely does not look feminine. He is very young (born in 86) but would be right for the role by 2013.

Webhead2006
10-19-2009, 05:26 PM
totally, though dj was totally wrong for superman too, and personally would think both would be better off that film if it had happen. Though i still would love to see what the looks of costumes were going to be. Since we know there was some test suits the actors did try on.

Webhead2006
10-19-2009, 05:30 PM
totally the age was really the only thing i didnt like him for batman for jlm if it had happened, plus all if they were indeed trying to make this be connected to BB and all that. It would be all wrong. But yea with his young age right now, if superman doesnt happen to within the next 5-7 yrs he would still be in great age range.

Man of Tomorrow
10-19-2009, 05:41 PM
He would have been a strange cast for Batman regardless of his age.

He's got too much of a weird Brandon Routh wholesomeness to him.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7104/21072.jpg

But I guess he has the voice for Batman... somehow I can't see him threatening criminals on rooftops.

Man of Tomorrow
10-19-2009, 05:59 PM
With jet black hair dye and weight training, he could look the part by 2013 and beyond I'd say. Could work.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3144/normal204316.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9287/009ei.jpg

Blackman
10-19-2009, 06:02 PM
^^^definitely

SuperMike335!!
10-19-2009, 06:16 PM
Hammer is such an out of the box choice for Superman but he has the potential to be a great one. Very different than Reeve, but could probably do his own take on Superman.

He's a really talented actor and has the right height at 6'5.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/264/armiehammer.jpg
http://static.episode39.it/character/2926.jpg


And he definitely does not look feminine. He is very young (born in 86) but would be right for the role by 2013.

He's my top choice too.

Crook
10-19-2009, 06:19 PM
His face looks nothing like Superman to me.

SuperMike335!!
10-19-2009, 06:20 PM
Yeah it really seemed like they got the Batman and Superman casting reversed

I actually thought, at the time, that the reporter just messed it up.

Hammer just seems like he could make a really great Superman.

Makes me wonder what messed up criteria the casting director was using to make Hammer Batman, and Contra as Supes. Thats backasswards.

Man of Tomorrow
10-19-2009, 06:20 PM
I don't have a top choice but he's the only one out of the known upcoming actors that I could see working in the part.

Very difficult role to cast.

B
10-19-2009, 06:28 PM
Dunno about Armie Hammer, he kinda reminds me of Gaspard Ulliel (Hannibal Rising) which I suppose is why I think he looks like an evil guy pretending to be good.. if that makes sense.
He has got a good strong voice that would be great for the role but his general look based on the pictures above isn't really screaming Superman to myself..

Then again I've seen pictures of Reeve, Routh & Welling pre-Superman/Clark Kent & none of them exactly looked undoubtably Superman-like.

He does look a little young as well however assuming a reboot is 4 maybe 5 years away he'll maybe age well & he'll win me over but at the moment I'm more or less firmly in the "not quite right" category..

Man of Tomorrow
10-19-2009, 06:42 PM
I think we'd be lucky to get any known actor who could remotely pass as Superman at this point.

What possible is WB could throw names like Jake Gylenhaal and Ryan Gosling into the mix for this.. assuming their desire to get known actors behind the Superman role is true.

Webhead2006
10-19-2009, 09:20 PM
oh totally i would love to know what miller and his casting director were thinking for most of the roles.

Webhead2006
10-19-2009, 09:24 PM
well you guys know i would love for the next guy not to be a Reeve looking clone. I would want to have the guy define his own look for the role.

Webhead2006
10-20-2009, 12:31 AM
Speaking of guys we mentioned we would like to see as superman Michael Shanks of Star Gate SG1 fame is getting to play a DC hero, be that for smallville's JSA episode. He will be Carter Hall/Hawkman. Which i think is a great casting decision on smallville folks.
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4615/michaelshanks4.jpghttp://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1850/carterhallsbigpicture.jpg

Timstuff
10-20-2009, 01:21 AM
I really dig the idea of Michelle Monaghan as Lois, especially if "Metropolis" Clark is going to be a naive 20-something newbie. As someone said a few pages back, Clark is the inexperience rookie and Lois is the big league veteran who has a vulnerable side. If they had Henry Cavill as Superman and Monaghan as Lois, I'd be happy. :up:

I've said it before though, and I'll say it again: I think this time around, Lex Luthor and Superman shouldn't have a big age gap between them. I'd really like for them to go the route of them having been friends during adolescence, and having an older Lex has only ever really been a convention in the Donner-verse anyway.

Webhead2006
10-20-2009, 01:23 AM
that could work, though i do personally like a good few years difference in clark and lex.

Jake Cassidy
10-20-2009, 05:48 AM
Love or hate Smallville, they have some really great casting fot the superheroes.

FilmNerdJamie
10-20-2009, 06:17 AM
Then again I've seen pictures of Reeve, Routh & Welling pre-Superman/Clark Kent & none of them exactly looked undoubtably Superman-like.

By all accounts, Routh did. That's how he got his first agent.

http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv243/FilmNerdJamie/brandonrouth21.jpg

Young Superman
10-20-2009, 06:34 AM
By all accounts, Routh did. That's how he got his first agent.

http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv243/FilmNerdJamie/brandonrouth21.jpg

He looks more Supermanish there then he did in the movie.

Man of Tomorrow
10-20-2009, 09:08 AM
By all accounts, Routh did. That's how he got his first agent.

http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv243/FilmNerdJamie/brandonrouth21.jpg

That was some great casting.


Unless we get another unknown this time around, we're pretty much screwed.


There aren't really any known actors in the biz right now that fit the physical criteria for the Superman role.... unless they want to pull a 'Nick Cage' and reimagine Superman.

Man of Tomorrow
10-20-2009, 09:14 AM
Speaking of guys we mentioned we would like to see as superman Michael Shanks of Star Gate SG1 fame is getting to play a DC hero, be that for smallville's JSA episode. He will be Carter Hall/Hawkman. Which i think is a great casting decision on smallville folks.


Geoff Johns doesn't disappoint.


The only interpretations of the DC heroes I didn't like on there were Aquabro and Black Tranny Canary.


Cyborg, Impulse, Zatanna, Legion, and even emo GA are well done.


Jury's still out on "The Blur" though.

Superman Prime
10-20-2009, 09:14 AM
No to Hammer.

Alien Anal
10-20-2009, 09:39 AM
It is kind of hard to choose an actor with out knowing what the tone of the film will be like.

It is like trying to cast Christian Bale in what could be a typically action adventure brendan fraiser movie. or vice versa.

Showtime
10-20-2009, 12:32 PM
Merged the Reboot Casting Thread with this one, no need for two.

Webhead2006
10-20-2009, 02:00 PM
yea i was wondering why those two threads were not merged sooner lol. Though i said it before should be interesting to see how they decide to go about casting superman in another film. Will they want to go with a bigger named guy, will they go with an up and raising star like a armie hammer/chris pine, or go for a full on unknown.

GreenKToo
10-20-2009, 03:36 PM
This guy is perfect. He'll be the right age when they get around to finally making it..

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3219/20001006origsupermanbab.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/20001006origsupermanbab.jpg/)

FilmNerdJamie
10-20-2009, 04:17 PM
Zing?

Webhead2006
10-20-2009, 08:36 PM
lol greenktoo

I SEE SPIDEY
10-20-2009, 10:01 PM
This guy is perfect. He'll be the right age when they get around to finally making it..

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3219/20001006origsupermanbab.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/20001006origsupermanbab.jpg/)Perfect!

RachelDawes
10-20-2009, 10:18 PM
This guy is perfect. He'll be the right age when they get around to finally making it..

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3219/20001006origsupermanbab.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/20001006origsupermanbab.jpg/)

I can't decide until I've seen his resume.

NotFadeAway
10-21-2009, 12:10 AM
Right now, I'd be happy with any of the following, in no specific order except the first

Brandon Routh
Matthew Bomer
Jared Padalecki
Eion Bailey
Daniel Cudmore
David Boreanaz
Wentworth Miller
Jim Caviezel
Josh Duhamel

Obviosuly the list gets narrowed depending on if they want to start again from the origin or have an established Supes.

While I have said this on multiple occasions, if he weren't too old I would be campaigning like hell for David Boreanaz. I would wonder just how different Boreanaz could be made to look as Superman and Clark Kent, but other than that, he has every quality I want in a Superman actor.

Webhead2006
10-21-2009, 12:25 AM
i always liked david's work. It would be interesting if he does/or did a live action dc hero character.

Nightwing1977
10-21-2009, 12:34 AM
This guy is perfect. He'll be the right age when they get around to finally making it..

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3219/20001006origsupermanbab.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/20001006origsupermanbab.jpg/)

He's too young looking for Supes. :oldrazz: :hehe:

And I don't know about Hammer. He kinda has that "pretty boy" look to him like Welling that I'm not fan of. Clark & Supes shouldn't look that handsome to be a supermodel, mind you! ;)

Nightwing1977
10-21-2009, 12:40 AM
Edit: double post

I SEE SPIDEY
10-21-2009, 02:22 AM
Hammer is the kind of pretty boy that I don't want for Supes.

Timstuff
10-21-2009, 04:10 AM
He would have been a strange cast for Batman regardless of his age.

He's got too much of a weird Brandon Routh wholesomeness to him.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7104/21072.jpg

But I guess he has the voice for Batman... somehow I can't see him threatening criminals on rooftops.

I don't see Batman in him, but he's perfect for Captain America. :up:

BTW, another Cavill Superman pic.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5417/cavillsuperman.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/cavillsuperman.jpg/)

GreenKToo
10-21-2009, 08:27 AM
I could dig Cavill. It won't happen of course, but I could see him as Supes.

SuperMike335!!
10-21-2009, 11:36 AM
What I think is odd is that many of the same people suggesting Cavill say that Hammer looks like a pretty boy?

He certainly does not come off as that at all in his acting, and most pictures.

The is one picture with a bright flash smoothing his features, and highlighting his eyes, and all fo the sudden he looks like a Pretty boy?

Compared to Cavill?

Cavill seems like the pretty boy, Hammer does not:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVwTzPKF3Y0

NotFadeAway
10-21-2009, 11:39 AM
i always liked david's work. It would be interesting if he does/or did a live action dc hero character.

The biggest thing working against Boreanaz now is his age. He is virtually too old to launch a comic book franchise with him as the title character. I was hoping that he would get Green Lantern/Hal Jordan role, he was my top choice, although I'm very happy with Ryan Reynolds. Other than Superman or Green Lantern, I can't really think of any DC hero roles for him, because lets face it Bale is going to be Batman for atleast a few more films, Nolan or no Nolan. I think Terminator Salvation proved Bale can be bought, I think his stint of money problems pre-Begins has alot to do with that.

Crazy thing is, Boreanaz came very close to playing Superman back in 2003. He was the only actor that both Warner Bro's and Brett Ratner could agree on to play big blue in JJ Abrams script, but Angel got renewed for it's 5th and final season. I wouldn't have had it any other way, the Ratner/Abrams Superman film likely would have blown because Ratner is a tool and the script was all over the place, and I love Angel so I'm happy with how those events unfolded.

NotFadeAway
10-21-2009, 11:44 AM
Ummm, guys, both Cavill and Hammer look like pretty boys. Thats comes with the Superman casting territory. Alot of actors with the right features look like pretty boys. That was something that both Chris Reeve and George Reeves had going for them, they weren't pretty looking.

This further proves my point that we should look outside the box and at more actors who fall in line with the George Reeves/Kirk Alyn look, we wouldn't be stuck with mostly pretty little things.

Webhead2006
10-21-2009, 08:02 PM
yea its to bad alot of interesting choices would now be out of the age range wb would want. Since they are like pushing 40s. We know they want 24-35yrs old range to start out with. I said before i would be down with guys like cavill, hammer, boomer, and a few others that i liked. Though none of them besides maybe hammer will even be in the age range if we are looking at 5+ yrs to next film goes into production.

Should be very interesting casting wars we will all be in next go around. Hopefully they will land with someone the fanbase will enjoy and it will be a good all around film.

markaudette
10-21-2009, 08:32 PM
Clint Walker, best remebered for his role in The Dirty Dozen has always been my prototypical Superman. He's definitely not in the running as a contender but I wanted to post a few pics of how I would like the next actor to look like.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5500/470.gif


http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1461/471s.gif

You KNOW you see it too. You KNOW IT!


http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/4707/2560125280101587001ggou.jpg


http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5078/clintwalker2.jpg


Growing up, my iconic image of Superman was drawn by Wayne Boring and Curt Swan, Those images of their Superman will forever be branded in my mind as the iconic look of Superman.

As a side note, I just don't want a baby-faced actor playing Superman.

SuperMike335!!
10-21-2009, 10:28 PM
Clint Walker, best remebered for his role in The Dirty Dozen has always been my prototypical Superman. He's definitely not in the running as a contender but I wanted to post a few pics of how I would like the next actor to look like.

You KNOW you see it too. You KNOW IT!


http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5078/clintwalker2.jpg


Growing up, my iconic image of Superman was drawn by Wayne Boring and Curt Swan, Those images of their Superman will forever be branded in my mind as the iconic look of Superman.

As a side note, I just don't want a baby-faced actor playing Superman.

Markaudette I would love to see the next Superman actor resemble Walker in the most ways possible. I think he is the perfect Criteria for the Casting Director to look for. Closest to him they can get.

He’s far best remembered for he being on the TV show Cheyenne. They had like 5 seasons with him. It was his show, and mostly because of his performance, that Warner Bros survived as an early studio. They owe quite a bit to Clint.

That said, I agree 100% (its why its part of my sig, and his face is in my avatar) that Clint was the most Superman looking, sounding, and body language of any Actor who has ever lived. He had the perfect voice, face, physique and acting talent.

To bad he was born 50 years too early, I think no one on earth could have been better as a Superman.

Thats one reason its hard to see some of these casting threads these days, its like a fight for 2nd place.

Off camera, Walker was much the same way he was in character. He did not like to take roles if he felt the movie was peddling bad morals. He was ok with playing a villain, so long as the moral of the feature was that crime does not pay. He even went so far as to toss scripts as soon as soon as he would read a four letter word for his character.

After he got older he also championed American Indian rights, and has refused to take side in political debates, preferring to be a man who thinks things should be better decided on good sound sensibility, rather than political loyalty. – again a Superman trait of not taking sides with the left or right wing. He stays above that.
 
 
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0907636/bio (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0907636/bio)

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4006/clintwalker001.jpg


These ones he was in his 30s, seemed like a Jim Lee Superman come to life:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaBq_uQT3Lk&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaBq_uQT3Lk&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsgpdC9Ht5k&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsgpdC9Ht5k&feature=related)

This one he is in his late 30's, almost 40, at that point he seemed like an impressive Alex Ross Superman.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3M-FxY55jU&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3M-FxY55jU&NR=1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DomYqMkzPtw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DomYqMkzPtw)

Webhead2006
10-21-2009, 10:35 PM
oh totally the casting wars we have had for years have been crazy at times. Though it would be curious if by the time next film does happen if someone like a clint walker showed up to test.

SuperMike335!!
10-21-2009, 10:48 PM
oh totally the casting wars we have had for years have been crazy at times. Though it would be curious if by the time next film does happen if someone like a clint walker showed up to test.

If that happened they should tell every one else auditioning for the part to go home.

I would put an \S/ on that day of my calendar as a new holiday too.

NotFadeAway
10-22-2009, 11:47 AM
I still want Michael Keaton for Perry White.

SuperMike335!!
10-22-2009, 12:29 PM
I still want Michael Keaton for Perry White.

I'd be cool with that.

http://www.pixartoystory.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/keaton.jpg

Didn't he play a costumed hero once when he was younger? :woot:

afan
10-22-2009, 01:02 PM
To bad he was born 50 years too early, I think no one on earth could have been better as a Superman.



http://splicedwire.com/00features/warburton3.jpg

Patrick Warburton in his youth IMO would be the ideal choice.

Crook
10-22-2009, 01:48 PM
Heh, glad you found that pic. I could never find it. He really did look like the ideal Supes (or even Batman) with that face and build.

SuperMike335!!
10-22-2009, 01:48 PM
http://splicedwire.com/00features/warburton3.jpg

Patrick Warburton in his youth IMO would be the ideal choice.

In your Opinion Partrick Warputon would have been better.

I'd still prefer Walker 10 fold.

Ok, Puddy was the same exact height as the sourcebook stats (which are not even consistent, and ignored by the artists as well), but his acting style never said "Superman" to me.

He always comes across as a doofus. Most of the characters he plays either seem like they are arrogant and could care less about other poeple.

That or he is someone who has no idea what is going on. He also seems out of place like he could care less about what is going on around him, or is ignorant of it, unless he is angry, but not they way superman should look when he is angry.

I have not seen any of Patric Warburton's work when he was younger, and did not find any on youtube.

Nothing about him has ever just jumped out as "Superman".

The voice, general body language, and overall presence of Walker is as spot an as Possible for Superman.

Puddy = the Tick.

http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/movie-patricks/patrick-warburton-tick.jpg

Webhead2006
10-22-2009, 02:20 PM
speaking of patrick, i met him for a week last summer. He was a great guy, very nice.

SuperMike335!!
10-22-2009, 02:44 PM
speaking of patrick, i met him for a week last summer. He was a great guy, very nice.

Glad to hear that. :yay:

You rub elbows with many other actors?

My above post may have sounded been read a bit harsh, but that was not my intent.

He is a talented actor, I just never got a "Superman" vibe from him.

Webhead2006
10-22-2009, 04:46 PM
no i have only met a few, some local actors in my area, and also during same time i met patrick i also met actress amanda plummer who was in pulp fiction.

Dave_W
10-22-2009, 08:44 PM
Aaron Smolinski

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/205/aaronb.jpg

This is purely for a bit of fun, but this is how baby "I can lift a car over my head while dad fixes the wheel" Superman looks now!

Webhead2006
10-22-2009, 08:59 PM
not a bad look. i dont think i ever seen him in anything. So no judgement on him right now.

SuperMike335!!
10-22-2009, 10:25 PM
Aaron Smolinski



This is purely for a bit of fun, but this is how baby "I can lift a car over my head while dad fixes the wheel" Superman looks now!


He is 5'9", and I am seeing a contender for Brainiac more than Superman.

Actually I think he would make a very good Brainiac going by looks alone. Would be a lot of makeup and elborate costume, but I see something there that screams Brainiac.

Nightwing1977
10-23-2009, 05:28 AM
Aaron Smolinski

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/205/aaronb.jpg

This is purely for a bit of fun, but this is how baby "I can lift a car over my head while dad fixes the wheel" Superman looks now!

Do people really want someone that look like Singer to play Supes? I thought some are trying to forget about Singer. :D :hehe:

I don't like his big forehead either. People already made big deal about Bosworth's forehead as Lois back in the days when SR was being filmed. :p

afan
10-23-2009, 07:26 AM
I have not seen any of Patric Warburton's work when he was younger, and did not find any on youtube.

Nothing about him has ever just jumped out as "Superman".



Admittedly there is not much here, and it's probably a horrible film, but what there is seems a far cry from Seinfeld's Puddy or The Tick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d42tW8_G1pA

Dave_W
10-23-2009, 08:26 AM
Do people really want someone that look like Singer to play Supes? I thought some are trying to forget about Singer. :D :hehe:

I don't like his big forehead either. People already made big deal about Bosworth's forehead as Lois back in the days when SR was being filmed. :p

Like I said, it was a bit of fun as he's technically already played Supes before!

Superman Prime
10-23-2009, 01:13 PM
Nobody with a face too young. Also, nobody that looks like a total brute.

Nightwing1977
10-23-2009, 01:19 PM
Like I said, it was a bit of fun as he's technically already played Supes before!

Really? What he did? Video game or cartoon or what? It's the first time I heard of this guy, so sue me. ;)

SuperMike335!!
10-23-2009, 02:07 PM
Admittedly there is not much here, and it's probably a horrible film, but what there is seems a far cry from Seinfeld's Puddy or The Tick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d42tW8_G1pA

I think he looked more like Shazam actually, but thats just my taste.

I would rather have have a guy like Patric Warburton in the role than a lot of other people, I would however much prefer a more Clint Walker type of Actor.

You get some points for finding a trailer that sounds to be narrated by Optimus Prime. :woot:

Dave_W
10-23-2009, 04:54 PM
Really? What he did? Video game or cartoon or what? It's the first time I heard of this guy, so sue me. ;)

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/205/aaronb.jpg

is this kid...

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/672/1021membababylaunch.jpg

NotFadeAway
10-24-2009, 01:09 AM
So I checked out White Collar tonight to watch Matthew Bomer. And suprise suprise, his height didn't stand out at all, on a show that really had no reason to care about such a thing, and even if they did try and mask it a bit, I'm sure there wasn't much time put forth on the issue. Bomer looked just as tall as everyone else. Granted, his slender build stood out a few times, but weight training can help with that. And if your that worried about height, with Bomer or any other actor, just have them wear lifts when there appearing as Superman. There is no shame in that at all. You could take half of Bomer's charisma away and he would still have charisma coming out the wazzu. I really think the guy can be Superman's version of Chris Pine with Captain Kirk.

Infact, if lifts were needed for the next Superman actor, I think it should be implemented into tje movie as a storyline. Have Kal-El wear lifts as Superman as another nifty way to keep those around him from thinking Clark Kent and Supes are one in the same. That would be perfectly logical.

Webhead2006
10-24-2009, 01:10 AM
really?

SuperMike335!!
10-24-2009, 01:02 PM
Superman should not need lifts. I’d rather see him wear flat soles as Clark.
What I think is funny is how people will say that someone 2-3" too tall is horrible (source books list Superman at 6'3" sometimes 6'4") if they are 6'5" or 6'6", but then its just fine to have them be 3.5"-4.5" too short.

I'd much prefer that more work have to be done to make them look like Clark, than have to go out of their way to make Superman look taller.
Ideally the actor would be 6'3"-6'4", but if they had to go two inches one way, 6'6" would be better than 6'1", and
Much better than 5'11.5".

The head to body ratio is more "super hero" with a larger body and smaller head. The limb to trunk to head ratio is less favorable with someone under 6ft.

Sure you can put lifts under the shoes, but you cannot make up for the head to body ratio, that ends up looking like an obviously shorter than should be superman, like Dean Cain. He did not look tall enough, and that is not comparing him to other actors, even by himself, his proportions did not say "superman".

It would be far easier to have an actor a few inches too tall look only 6'3"
as Clark, because Flat sole shoes and slouching a bit can easily take off that much height on camera. Slouching alone can make a person seem a few inches shorter. Then whoever plays Lois can weal heels, or Platforms too.

Would give a better contrast to Superman and Clark, than having Superman wearing the lifts.

Id rather Clark be in Flats to look shorter, than a Superman who needs lifts to look taller.

Proportions change with height. Superman should have tall proportions.

My minimum for Superman is 6’1". Christopher Reeve was 6'4"-6'5" (may have rounded down to help get the role, but his limb length proportions looked great), Cain was 6ft flat (may be as short as 5'11").

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1571/001aaaproportionscompar.jpg

Webhead2006
10-24-2009, 01:17 PM
nice post supermike, i agree it would be to bad to get a slightly taller guy to be clark/superman. Compared to say making a 5'10/5'11 guy look like he is 6'4.

daywalker2007
10-24-2009, 08:00 PM
Aaron Smolinski

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/205/aaronb.jpg

This is purely for a bit of fun, but this is how baby "I can lift a car over my head while dad fixes the wheel" Superman looks now!

this guy looks like the bastard child of jared padalecki and neil patrick harris!

X Knight
10-24-2009, 09:18 PM
well......since they got 6'3" Jackman to play 5'3" Wolverine......then I say get a 5'3" actor to play 6'3" Superman.........:cwink: :oldrazz:

hey.....if it's ok and acceptable for a tall actor to play a short character, then it's perfectly acceptable for a short actor to play a tall character....:o

I mean.....it's not like the character is a certain height in the comics.....after all......who needs the comics when you make a CB movie........what a quaint and silly notion.....

I am being a bit sarcastic, of course. But I do find it ironic and funny how ppl who have no problem with a tall actor like Jackman playing a short character like Wolverine, suddenly become "purists" and cry foul when a short actor is proposed to play a tall character........

\S/JcDc\S/
10-24-2009, 09:29 PM
People get confused on Dean Cain because he had a football player body (broad shoulders for example), not just because he was drafted by the Bills either. He was 6ft, but didn't have a sleek shape to him so doesn't appear taller.

Webhead2006
10-24-2009, 09:32 PM
well it just wouldnt work right with a 5'3 guy trying to look over 6'0 and imposing. Then the rest of the cast would have to be like 5'0 or shorter which all wouldnt look right. I would be more fine with someone who is 5'11 with a few inches for lifts to a 6'5ish guy for max height. With superman his size and shape is very key factor.

X Knight
10-24-2009, 09:50 PM
well.....that's just my point. just as it wouldn't work for a short guy to play a tall character.....it wouldn't work for a tall actor to play a short character.......

Especially if there is a clear 1 foot or more difference in height. If the difference is only a few inches......then it doesn't really matter.

but....I digress......

in regards to the next Superman actor's height.....I think he should be at least 6'0".

At minimum, he could be 5'10 to 5'11".....with 3-4" inch lifts, that would bring him to the 6'1" to 6'3" height range. That coupled with camera angles and casting choices would be able to "compensate" for his shorter height......

Regardless, the actor NEEDS to have a strong, rugged look, with an imposing, muscular physique ( doesn't need to be bodybuilder huge ). Especially if the actor is on the shorter side in height.......

Webhead2006
10-24-2009, 10:20 PM
totally he need to have a wide frame, a body type that can put on the mass, has screen presence/charisma, etc......

SuperMike335!!
10-24-2009, 10:35 PM
As I mentioned before, the thing about height is that the body proportions change more favorably for a "super-hero" look with taller height.
Sure tricks can be done to make someone appear taller, but they cannot make up for the head to body ratio of a taller actor by putting a shorter guy on stilts.

Besides it is far easier to make someone seem shorter for the Clark scenes than it would be to convincingly make them look like Superman among humans when they cannot have a head to toe shot.

There are several anatomical changes that happen as height goes up, such as longer limb waist and wider clavicles. These things the human eyes notice, even if the person viewing the movie cannot describe what they are seeing. Something will just seem "short" about the actor.

Hugh Jackman is a good example. Heck if they can make him seem well under 6ft as Wolvereine (my wife thought he was only 5’7-5’8"), then it would be cake to make a 6’6" actor seem only 6’3", or even 6’2" as Clark.

I would not go any taller than 6’6" or shorter than 6’1". Obviously other things are important like voice, face, body language, and build.

If it comes down to two actors who both are great, and everything else was equal except for height, and one was 6’2", and the other 6’4", I would go with the taller one.

I SEE SPIDEY
10-24-2009, 11:49 PM
Jackman always looks tall to me on screen. I never thought he was under 6 feet.

Anyway, if the actor is perfect in everyother way, I'd be down for a Superman who is under 6ft.

Timstuff
10-25-2009, 12:16 AM
My minimum would be 6 feet. I don't see why Superman should be less than that since there are plenty of 6' tall actors out there to choose from, and not a lot who are shorter than that who would make good Superman material. On that same note, I think it's silly that people would insist the actors be "canon height" and no less, with the only acceptable error being for additional height. If the actor is 6' or taller they're already going to tower over a lot of other actors, so unless they need to be taller than another 6' actor it's not an issue (and even then the can use lifts). Christian Bale is 2" shorter than Batman's "canon height" but it's hardly an issue, so I don't see why it would be for Superman.

I SEE SPIDEY
10-25-2009, 01:08 AM
I would like to know one actor who is the same height as the comicbook character he played.

Nightwing1977
10-25-2009, 01:14 AM
I would like to know one actor who is the same height as the comicbook character he played.

Bale was pretty close to being the same height as Batman. Many bio said Batman is 6' 3" & Bale is either 6' 1" or 6' 2".

X Knight
10-25-2009, 01:16 AM
I would like to know one actor who is the same height as the comicbook character he played.

Jackie Earle Haley is like 5'5.5" - 5'6", while Rorschach is 5'6".....so that's pretty d**n close, imo........:o :oldrazz:

Spider-Fan83
10-25-2009, 06:39 AM
most bios only have Spider-man as like 5'9"-5'10"ish Tobeys is 5'8"-5'9"ish

Timstuff
10-25-2009, 09:42 AM
Bale was pretty close to being the same height as Batman. Many bio said Batman is 6' 3" & Bale is either 6' 1" or 6' 2".

According to IMDB Bale is 6' solid, and they are usually right about heights. The DC Wikia article for Batman lists Bats as being 6' 2".

Blackman
10-25-2009, 10:14 AM
I dont care about the exact height lol
Its just that when you see Supes in comics he usually towers over people. To me thats part of his identity

Young Superman
10-25-2009, 10:39 AM
Agreed Blackman

bruce_kent
10-25-2009, 11:18 AM
My suggestions:


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4QKHxj9Mv48/StzIpe2fguI/AAAAAAAANa0/m-sJb3NGiis/s320/lois+monaghan.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4QKHxj9Mv48/StzIpe2fguI/AAAAAAAANa0/m-sJb3NGiis/s1600-h/lois+monaghan.jpg)

Michelle Monaghan as Lois Lane



http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4QKHxj9Mv48/SuR51IXPY7I/AAAAAAAANbU/nrOtJGZnO3E/s320/ArnoldVosloo.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4QKHxj9Mv48/SuR51IXPY7I/AAAAAAAANbU/nrOtJGZnO3E/s1600-h/ArnoldVosloo.jpg)

Arnold Vosloo as Lex Luthor


Bye

Webhead2006
10-25-2009, 12:36 PM
vosloo would probably be an interesting lex.

SuperMike335!!
10-25-2009, 01:04 PM
I dont care about the exact height lol
Its just that when you see Supes in comics he usually towers over people. To me thats part of his identity

Exactly, "source book statistics" are almost completely ignored by the Artists themselves.

Jim lee, Alex Ross, Byrne, etc… All draw Superman towering over people.
6’4" is tall, but not towering over people the way their drawn superman looks, I would say they make him look 6’6"-6’7".

Not that we need the actor to be 6’7", for what I would like to see, my minimum is 6’1" with my max at 6’6".

Whoever they get, its very easy to make them look shorter as Clark if they need to.

Anyone can be made to look 3" shorter in a suit with adjusting their posture and thin sole shoes.

That and Clark is tall man, and it still works fine. That’s the benefit of having a Superhero who does not wear a mask. People get the idea he is a Fulltime Superhero, and so there are less people looking.

Clark also has an easy pass for being tall, that and 6’4" is still fairly common height. Now if Clark looked 6’8" he may stand out too much. If he only looks 6’4", that is still no big deal. If Superman is taller than 6'4", and Clark only looks that, that could be even better, as now there is more contrast with Superman and Clark.

That and an identity and personal perception is a lot less facial features, build and height, and a lot more to do with voice and body language is even bigger.

Disguise is an art form, and it would be shocking to a lot of the "super can’t be big cuz of Clark mantra people" how easy it still is in fact is to make a big man a disguise.

I think it would be so easy to conceal him as Clark, that if he actually told people he was Superman, they would think he was joking.

Webhead2006
10-25-2009, 01:14 PM
yea i said it earlier i would love to see the whole aspect about how he comes up with his metropolis look and his superman persona played into the story next go around.

Blackman
10-25-2009, 01:47 PM
Exactly, "source book statistics" are almost completely ignored by the Artists themselves.

Jim lee, Alex Ross, Byrne, etc… All draw Superman towering over people.
6’4" is tall, but not towering over people the way their drawn superman looks, I would say they make him look 6’6"-6’7".

Not that we need the actor to be 6’7", for what I would like to see, my minimum is 6’1" with my max at 6’6".

Whoever they get, its very easy to make them look shorter as Clark if they need to.

Anyone can be made to look 3" shorter in a suit with adjusting their posture and thin sole shoes.

That and Clark is tall man, and it still works fine. That’s the benefit of having a Superhero who does not wear a mask. People get the idea he is a Fulltime Superhero, and so there are less people looking.

Clark also has an easy pass for being tall, that and 6’4" is still fairly common height. Now if Clark looked 6’8" he may stand out too much. If he only looks 6’4", that is still no big deal. If Superman is taller than 6'4", and Clark only looks that, that could be even better, as now there is more contrast with Superman and Clark.

That and an identity and personal perception is a lot less facial features, build and height, and a lot more to do with voice and body language is even bigger.

Disguise is an art form, and it would be shocking to a lot of the "super can’t be big cuz of Clark mantra people" how easy it still is in fact is to make a big man a disguise.

I think it would be so easy to conceal him as Clark, that if he actually told people he was Superman, they would think he was joking.

See even to me 6' is kind of short. Usually for superhero roles I wouldn't care that much about height unless the person is like 5'5 because of lifts. But for Superman (and Thor and a lesser extent Wonder Woman) I think you need to have naturally tall and built actor

Some examples of actors who have good height and build
Armie Hammer
Jared Padalecki
Alexander Skarsguard
Christopher Reeves
Brandon Routh
Tom Welling

I dont necessarily want those guys for Clark/Superman but they do have the build and height I think necessary for whoever plays Supes next

SuperMike335!!
10-25-2009, 02:02 PM
Yeah thats why my bare minimum is 6'1". 6ft flat would be too short for my taste.

Routh was like 6'4", and Welling is 6'3".

Not that I want either to star in a Superman film, but they are well withing my range or 6'1" to 6'6".

I Am Jack's...
10-25-2009, 02:10 PM
My suggestions:


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4QKHxj9Mv48/StzIpe2fguI/AAAAAAAANa0/m-sJb3NGiis/s320/lois+monaghan.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4QKHxj9Mv48/StzIpe2fguI/AAAAAAAANa0/m-sJb3NGiis/s1600-h/lois+monaghan.jpg)

Michelle Monaghan as Lois Lane



http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4QKHxj9Mv48/SuR51IXPY7I/AAAAAAAANbU/nrOtJGZnO3E/s320/ArnoldVosloo.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4QKHxj9Mv48/SuR51IXPY7I/AAAAAAAANbU/nrOtJGZnO3E/s1600-h/ArnoldVosloo.jpg)

Arnold Vosloo as Lex Luthor


Bye

I totally agree with Monaghan as Lois, I think she's near perfect for the role.

Vosloo would be a good Lex, not great in my mind, but not bad.

I personally think Colm Feore is the perfect Lex Luthor.

http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/12037/colm%20luthor.jpg

Nightwing1977
10-25-2009, 03:53 PM
Routh was like 6'4", and Welling is 6'3".



I think they're both about the same height. Doubt Routh is 6' 4". It's either 6' 2" or 6' 3".

bruce_kent
10-25-2009, 05:11 PM
vosloo would probably be an interesting lex.

I think in Arnold Vosloo for Lex Luthor why remaind this other Lex Luthor:

http://www.ugo.com/tv/tv-villains/images/entries/lex-luthor.jpg

adult version of Lex Luthor in Smallville


http://www.jpjuegos.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/mk11.jpg

Lex Luthor in the videogame Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe


http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/superman/bios/villains/luthor/01.gif

and Lex Luthor in Superman: The Animated Series form Bruce Timm


I totally agree with Monaghan as Lois, I think she's near perfect for the role.

Vosloo would be a good Lex, not great in my mind, but not bad.

I personally think Colm Feore is the perfect Lex Luthor.

http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/12037/colm%20luthor.jpg

Bye

SuperMike335!!
10-25-2009, 05:18 PM
I think they're both about the same height. Doubt Routh is 6' 4". It's either 6' 2" or 6' 3".


Would not suprise me one bit.

I am not a Routh fan, but he does look to be around that. I would not be shocked if he was only 6'1", some actors heights are inflated, and some are deflated to help them get roles.

Christopher Reeve is rumored to have fudged his height downward to help him get the superman part, he may have been 6'5.5".

Either way all of the above were in range, and I don't think we need to get under 6'1".

MAN O STEEL
10-25-2009, 09:36 PM
Routh was like 6'4", and Welling is 6'3".


Routh is 6'2 & a half on the dot

Welling is 6'3 on the dot

&

Padalecki is the same height as Reeve 6'4 on the dot




Steve

Man of Tomorrow
10-25-2009, 09:48 PM
Welling and Routh are both listed as 6'2.5 (1.91 m) on IMDB and Celebrity Heights.

6'2 - 6'5 is the ideal height range for the character.


Then again, the Warners were fine with DJ Cotrona as Superman and he's 5'9

Snoo
10-25-2009, 10:22 PM
Since we're talking about height (man, I missed reading this thread)...

The first episode (http://watching-tv.ew.com/2009/10/24/white-collar-usa-network-review/) of the new tv series White Collar starring Matt Bomer in one of the leading roles just aired recently. It's getting very positive reviews and I've seen lots of women say how gorgeous and "perfect" this guy is, and the fact he was a Superman contender was also brought up. I enjoyed the ep very much, he's playing a master con man, such a sly, suave and very charming and "innocent-like" character. Good acting!

Unfortunately, no matter how Supermanly Matt looks - and now that I've seen him act I can say I do understand why Ratner cast him - he is still "only" 5' 11½" (1.82 m) tall. What a bummer. *bangs head on desk*

It's astounding to me how much better he looks in White Collar than those Toyota commercials! When you get the chance to see him on a full screen and up close, he is far more believable as a possible Superman than the commercials which, IMO, made him look like a dork, a poor man's Superman, a stand-in. I knew something bothered me about those commercials and after watching the ep, I have a feeling why. See, the potential for Superman is there, it really is. How could it not be when he's nicely built and toned, classically beautiful, with a runway model's looks? Plus, he's got charisma.

But all the potential can be screwed up easily by the make-up artist. One wrong decision there and it just doesn't work right as a whole. Us fans who like to look at every detail separately know this more than anyone. We look at superheroes very critically.
For instance, giving him the wrong haircut (and I think the commercial misfired in this area, especially with his Clark look... Where's all the great hair??), shortening it too much and using a lot of hair gel to tame that mane while nice hair should be an asset, always an asset. This is Superman! Show it off! When Two-Face from The Dark Knight has more luscious hair than Bomer!Superman, there's something seriously wrong. *laugh* (Btw, they blowdried Eckhart's hair to make it look so fine.) I'm not saying he should have long 80's hair but too short looks boyish. And this is just one example.

Here are some big caps I've found from the episode, look how stunning this guy is and how a bit longer hair suits him best:

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/saysnoo/shh/whitec1.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/saysnoo/shh/whitec2.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/saysnoo/shh/whitec3.jpg

NATURAL SPITCURL! And the smile.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/saysnoo/shh/whitec5.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/saysnoo/shh/whitec8.jpg

That serious, Supermanly look in his eyes.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/saysnoo/shh/whitec9.jpg


He's got better hair than Bruce Wayne in Batman Begins and that's saying something.

In short: He's got the hair, eyes, eyebrows, facial structure, smile, abs, and general body build that I think he could improve with training but would he look bigger thar than Routh? Not sure, I'm not a trainer. He's not that wide in the chest and shoulders. Is it just me? Facially he is amazing. But it's the height that seems to be the main reason for people dismissing him. That or pictures that don't really show off his qualities well. In White Collar he's dressed as fine as James Bond and he makes a great figure. He also has this innocent, wide-eyed look that can be very Clark-ish but also piercing and Supermanly. And he can do comedy and his voice is deep enough.

Doesn't this .gif remind you of goofy Clark a little? It's not Reeve goofy - it doesn't have to be - but a different kind of goofy that I think the modern audience would respond to. I don't know, more of a modern Clark for a reboot or something?

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/saysnoo/shh/ani_matt8.gif

More pics in my next post.

Snoo
10-25-2009, 10:26 PM
Here are some more caps and animated .gifs of Bomer from White Collar.

Caps:

Awkwaaaard.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/saysnoo/shh/whitec13.jpg

See, not that wide in the shoulders, right? Is it just me?
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/saysnoo/shh/whitec4.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/saysnoo/shh/whitec14.jpg

Nice profile.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/saysnoo/shh/whitec11.jpg


Notice the wide-eyed and piercing look at the end:

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/saysnoo/shh/ani_matt2.gif

Shirtless .gif:

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/saysnoo/shh/ani_matt7.gif

Webhead2006
10-25-2009, 11:31 PM
i said before boomer is one of the few guys we have mentioned for awhile i do like and would be down for if he was ever superman. Sure his height is a factor. Though thats a bit tough were do you want the bare minium be. Sure we dont want to see a 5'8 guy trying to be 6'+ it would probably look odd and weird if they did it wrong. I agree too the max should be 6'5-6'6. Though in the end boomer will probably not be in the running next go around beside to us fans on the net. I think he could be a good superman. I have liked what i saw of him in chuck and i still havent catched white collar show myself.

NotFadeAway
10-25-2009, 11:39 PM
I'm sorry, but to disqualify Bomer because of his height, when he has EVERYTHING else required for the role, is just wrong. As of right now, if Superman were cast tomorrow, Bomer is my top choice, hands down. He has everything needed both looks and acting wise, and height can be worked with on camera.

Bomer for Superman.

Webhead2006
10-25-2009, 11:58 PM
as i said i would be down for him if he was picked. How old is matt currently?

Man of Tomorrow
10-25-2009, 11:58 PM
A major no to Bomer. :doh:

Completely lacks the physical look required for Superman

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/images/thumbnails/tiffany-thiessen-10229-5.jpg



And there's really no point even debating it anymore, none of the old names WB had for the failed projects will be in the running for the reboot.


So no point crying over split milk. Move on.

http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv243/FilmNerdJamie/prius-japan3.jpg


Let's get some real suggestions in here..

B
10-26-2009, 12:10 AM
Bomer was one of my top picks but kinda fizzled out after I heard hes only in & around 6ft tall (or shorter?), I'm still not totally against him though.. just not as keen. Such a pity hes not 6'3.. he has definatly got a Superman look about him.

Anyway, but with the way films are shot I don't think his height would matter as much as people think.
In beatdown scene in SR, just before hes pushed down the steps by Spacey, Routh & he are standing almost face to face in a staredown moment.

Brandon Routh is in & around 6'3, he also was wearing those boots with the thick ass sole(s) probably making him 6'4 when in Superman costume.
Kevin Spacey is I believe is 5'11? maybe shorter?.. & yet in the staredown the height difference wasn't that noticable at all. It actually looked like Spacey was only slightly smaller than Routh.. when in fact his eye level is practically at Routh's chest :D

B
10-26-2009, 12:12 AM
Completely lacks the physical look required for Superman

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/images/thumbnails/tiffany-thiessen-10229-5.jpg


Jeez this makes him look like a midgit :doh:

Snoo
10-26-2009, 12:47 AM
i said before boomer is one of the few guys we have mentioned for awhile i do like and would be down for if he was ever superman. Sure his height is a factor. Though thats a bit tough were do you want the bare minium be.
..
Though in the end boomer will probably not be in the running next go around beside to us fans on the net.

It wouldn't bother me if he were cast but if he sported his Toyota commercial look (I so dislike that little fuzzy pic of him as Superman), then I wouldn't be for it. You can hardly recognize him there! So, more White Collar, less dorkyness. I can't believe this is the same guy from years ago and from all the pics I've seen of him so far. He looks like a completely different person to me in White Collar. And it's such a great show that I'll definitely continue to watch.

Who knows, maybe this series will make some fans change their minds about him. It's a leading role, he's in almost all the scenes, and he's doing a great job so far. He's got great chemistry with the other male lead - his FBI partner. The show will have a high percentage of female viewers, you betcha, and the comments I've read about him are all along the lines of: "Well, hellooooo, sailor." :woot: He's really something. The show overall is well cast. I recommend it.

Don't know where the bare minimum is as for height for Superman, it was never a huge deal to me. Someone over 180 cm ranks as tall in my book but since Superman's height is so imposing in the comics, fans want a really tall person... If you want a more specific height, I'd say at least as tall as Batman? And if not, camera tricks could help the liiiiittle difference in case he was a tad shorter. But you just know it would irritate quite a few Superman fans if their hero needed tricks to be taller than Batman. Always this rivarly with the Dark Knight...

In general people want over 6 feet at least?

I'm sorry, but to disqualify Bomer because of his height, when he has EVERYTHING else required for the role, is just wrong. As of right now, if Superman were cast tomorrow, Bomer is my top choice, hands down. He has everything needed both looks and acting wise, and height can be worked with on camera.

Bomer for Superman.

See, I'm in no rush to disqualify him myself, my post makes it clear enough how impressed I am by him and that I've changed my mind but the height issue has always been a problem whenever he's discussed. It's like a dark cloud looming above everything else whenever his name pops up in convos.

It's a shame, really, because he is truly stunning facially and has good genes. The females in the general audience would have no problems warming up to him. He'd be a big draw, bring in more viewers. Even those who claim Superman's boring and they never liked him, couldn't deny he's at least beautiful and manly and with a fresh face, hahaha, so that would confuse them. It would be a sight to see! *evil grin* We'd win them over to our side for sure! Right now there's a big trend with females gravitating toward Batman and has been for a long time because Superman's so "dull". We need to knock them off their feet with the casting here, make him exciting and fresh.

Put White Collar Bomer next to Bale's Bruce Wayne (who's a real catch), and heck, I'd have eyes for Bomer only even if I wasn't a Superman fan. The more new people we bring into fandom, the better. Let's use all the tricks in the book! :woot:

To me personally he's a tall enough guy and what female doesn't like a tall guy? If he did great in auditions and could bulk up and look great in the suit, his height would be of no concern to me anymore. I don't know how others see it but I do understand why some have an issue with his height. It's not as if this was just a matter of hair color - that can be changed. But height is a biggie and I guess it depends on how much taller a camera trick can make him look. If his height is the only negative factor and everything else about Matt is overwhelmingly positive, wouldn't they cast him? Ratner did, so he was willing to oversee that one thing. Wouldn't they try to make it work?

Webhead2006
10-26-2009, 01:08 AM
that is a key problem with superman casting u want someone who is tall and has that imposing figure and all that. and with at least 6'0-6'1 you can probably still pull it off well plus or minus a few inchs of lifts that are not noticable and all that. Matt is as i said someone i would love to see as superman though like man of tomorrow said most of the many names we all talk about daily will likely either not be looked at by wb or if we are waiting a good many more years will be way out of the prime age range wb would be going for next time around. But i am sorta like supermike and some others i would like to see picks between 6'0-6'6 the max. 5'11 would be a slime bare minium i would go with if he has the right body type to bulk up and have an impressive frame and all that.

Asr
10-26-2009, 01:56 AM
Holy crap, I think Bomer should be Superman! :wow: I'm a fan of Cavill but Bomer could really work too!

SuperMike335!!
10-26-2009, 09:31 AM
I like Bomer’s look; he has a very RF mask face. The height is still an issue for me however.

Mainly because he clearly has the proportions and body head to head ratio of a shorter man, and this makes it obvious.

I do have high standards for this, literally as I feel superman should look tall compared to people as he looks in the comics. I have 6’1" to 6’6" as my range.

I realize that the range only gives 5" of flex room, and if you look at 5" on a ruler, it’s not a lot really.

It is however enough of a range that I am sure there is someone every bit as suited as Bomer, if not more so, who is just taller, even one who has a strong looking athletic build.

It should not be so hard to find a guy with the needed traits to play superman that we have to settle on a short one.


We will likely not pin the cape on Superman in this thread, but I think if WB people have viewed it, they may be writing up criteria, which is more important anyway really.

I’d be happy with a Bomer looking face (look up RF mask some time), with a good voice, good acting talent, strong looking build, from 6'1" to 6'6" frame. Somewhere that guy has to really exist. Likely there ara a dozen of them.

bruce_kent
10-26-2009, 10:51 AM
My suggestions:


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4QKHxj9Mv48/SuXE-PVALiI/AAAAAAAANbk/dlxxObgf7Ag/s320/Thomas+Gibson-SGG-039193.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4QKHxj9Mv48/SuXE-PVALiI/AAAAAAAANbk/dlxxObgf7Ag/s1600-h/Thomas+Gibson-SGG-039193.jpg)

Thomas Gibson as Clark Kent/Superman





http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4QKHxj9Mv48/StzIpe2fguI/AAAAAAAANa0/m-sJb3NGiis/s320/lois+monaghan.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4QKHxj9Mv48/StzIpe2fguI/AAAAAAAANa0/m-sJb3NGiis/s1600-h/lois+monaghan.jpg)

Michelle Monaghan as Lois Lane



http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4QKHxj9Mv48/SuR51IXPY7I/AAAAAAAANbU/nrOtJGZnO3E/s320/ArnoldVosloo.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4QKHxj9Mv48/SuR51IXPY7I/AAAAAAAANbU/nrOtJGZnO3E/s1600-h/ArnoldVosloo.jpg)

Arnold Vosloo as Lex Luthor


Bye

NotFadeAway
10-26-2009, 11:32 AM
as i said i would be down for him if he was picked. How old is matt currently?

I believe that he just turned 32. Thats also a problem, thats nearing my cut off age limit. It's sad to, because I love Bomer for the role.

NotFadeAway
10-26-2009, 11:39 AM
See, I'm in no rush to disqualify him myself, my post makes it clear enough how impressed I am by him and that I've changed my mind but the height issue has always been a problem whenever he's discussed. It's like a dark cloud looming above everything else whenever his name pops up in convos.

It's a shame, really, because he is truly stunning facially and has good genes. The females in the general audience would have no problems warming up to him. He'd be a big draw, bring in more viewers. Even those who claim Superman's boring and they never liked him, couldn't deny he's at least beautiful and manly and with a fresh face, hahaha, so that would confuse them. It would be a sight to see! *evil grin* We'd win them over to our side for sure! Right now there's a big trend with females gravitating toward Batman and has been for a long time because Superman's so "dull". We need to knock them off their feet with the casting here, make him exciting and fresh.

Put White Collar Bomer next to Bale's Bruce Wayne (who's a real catch), and heck, I'd have eyes for Bomer only even if I wasn't a Superman fan. The more new people we bring into fandom, the better. Let's use all the tricks in the book! :woot:

To me personally he's a tall enough guy and what female doesn't like a tall guy? If he did great in auditions and could bulk up and look great in the suit, his height would be of no concern to me anymore. I don't know how others see it but I do understand why some have an issue with his height. It's not as if this was just a matter of hair color - that can be changed. But height is a biggie and I guess it depends on how much taller a camera trick can make him look. If his height is the only negative factor and everything else about Matt is overwhelmingly positive, wouldn't they cast him? Ratner did, so he was willing to oversee that one thing. Wouldn't they try to make it work?

I agree with everything you wrote. I again would like to make the analogy that Bomer as Superman would have the same effect Chris Pine playing Captain Kirk had. There was just something about Pine that drew in both Trek fanboys and the general audience. Pine just had the "it" factor, and I think Bomer has it as well. The height problem is really BS to me, it's like Jack Nicholson said in Mars Attacks, you have 2 out of the 3 government branches still working, and that isn't bad. I apply that same logic to Bomer, he has everything but the height, and that isn't bad. And if I may bring up Daniel Craig again, he isn't the worlds tallest man and they made that work in the new Bond movies.

I'll say it again, I would have no problem placing Bomer in lifts while he is in the Superman costume.

As a shorter guy, I'm around 5'7-5'8, I feel Bomer's pain.

I'm sad, because as a realist, I know that there is a 99.9% chance I will never see my current top choices ofr Superman and Lois on screen, and that would be Matthew Bomer and Evangiline Lilly.

Webhead2006
10-26-2009, 11:42 AM
ah ok fade thanks yea if he was even looked at in a few years he would be out of the age range. Though they will probably want someone in the age range right now of an armie hammer who if its a few years away he would be in that prime 25-35 yrs old range still.

NotFadeAway
10-26-2009, 11:48 AM
ah ok fade thanks yea if he was even looked at in a few years he would be out of the age range. Though they will probably want someone in the age range right now of an armie hammer who if its a few years away he would be in that prime 25-35 yrs old range still.

Since you mentioned Armie Hammer, I my as well give my take on him. I'd like to see him in more work than Reaper, although he was entertaining and did flash charisma on the show. He definetly has youth on his side, and has plenty of physical tools, but in my opinion, he is kinda douchey looking, although that can obviously be changed.

Timstuff
10-26-2009, 11:54 AM
I'm sorry, but to disqualify Bomer because of his height, when he has EVERYTHING else required for the role, is just wrong. As of right now, if Superman were cast tomorrow, Bomer is my top choice, hands down. He has everything needed both looks and acting wise, and height can be worked with on camera.

Bomer for Superman.

It's not just the height-- it's the whole body. He's got narrow shoulders and a slim torso. Lifts are not going to change that, and trying to fix it with camera angles is going to make his head look too big. Bomer's face could be Superman's, but his body can't. It's not that he's 5' 11" instead of 6' 3", it's that his body just plain looks too small to be Superman.

SuperMike335!!
10-26-2009, 11:56 AM
Since you mentioned Armie Hammer, I my as well give my take on him. I'd like to see him in more work than Reaper, although he was entertaining and did flash charisma on the show. He definetly has youth on his side, and has plenty of physical tools, but in my opinion, he is kinda douchey looking, although that can obviously be changed.


Look up Billy the Early years, where he portrays the young Billy Graham.

Shoot, here is a link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVwTzPKF3Y0

Webhead2006
10-26-2009, 01:27 PM
i wouldnt mind hammer myself here for superman, and he is in prime age right now if we are waiting another 5-7 yrs minium to still be a good contender age and all that. I when i said him early was just throwing out we are likely to see someone probably of hammer's age right now who might be looked at when ever we get around. Now if its 5 yrs and he was to be picked hammer would then be what 28-29 yrs old right? That would be a nice prime starting out age superman.

SuperMike335!!
10-26-2009, 01:49 PM
It's not just the height-- it's the whole body. He's got narrow shoulders and a slim torso. Lifts are not going to change that, and trying to fix it with camera angles is going to make his head look too big. Bomer's face could be Superman's, but his body can't. It's not that he's 5' 11" instead of 6' 3", it's that his body just plain looks too small to be Superman.

Exactly, that precisely what I meant by the head, body, limb, trunk, and shoulder width ratios being more Superhero like the taller you go.
 
If you look at the ratios a lot of comic artist’s use for characters like Superman, he would be 7ft.
 
Now 7ft is way too tall for an actor playing him, but it just shows the artist intention is for him to look very tall. The bare flat minimum of 6'1" I think is the shortest that would work, as well as the top end being 6'6", because it is possible to make anyone look 3" shorter as Clark without a lot of work.
 
That 5" range is open enough to find plenty of options when WB actually gets to casting.

nintendo nerd
10-26-2009, 05:32 PM
I want Bomer for the role of Bilbo Baggins


http://www.conversationmarketing.com/bilbobaggins.jpg

RachelDawes
10-26-2009, 05:35 PM
Bomer's face is so perfect for Superman, but then I prefer a youthful, handsome Superman to a rugged one. Now we just need a younger, taller version of him.

\S/JcDc\S/
10-26-2009, 05:54 PM
Bomer's face is so perfect for Superman, but then I prefer a youthful, handsome Superman to a rugged one. Now we just need a younger, taller version of him.

I think his face is one of his worst attributes for Supes, go figure :confused:

Webhead2006
10-26-2009, 10:04 PM
what you think is wrong with it \S/?

NotFadeAway
10-27-2009, 10:58 AM
Look up Billy the Early years, where he portrays the young Billy Graham.

Shoot, here is a link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVwTzPKF3Y0

Thanks for the link.....good showing for Hammer.

I just had an interesting idea. If Alexander Skarsgard was cast as the adult Clark Kent/Superman, Hammer could be his Jeff East. Also, I might retract this upon further thought.

NotFadeAway
10-27-2009, 11:00 AM
Say Matthew Bomer was cast as Superman, and the only complaints he generated were about his height. I'd be ok with that, but then again, I've never become caught up in the whole height/head size/should width/etc portion of casting Superman.

SuperMike335!!
10-27-2009, 11:17 AM
Its not like we need to actually take a caliper and measure exact limb to height to head size ratios.

It is however obvious to the human eye most of the time, when someone is shorter than claimed to be, and wearing thick boots.

The big head on thin frame/short body just stands out, same as short legs compared to the torso.

Even if someone does not know anything about taller vs. short ratios, they will still notice something looks "off" or "not quite right" with the body, when it is supposed to be around 6'3" or 6'4".

Anyway, the point with Bomer is moot, because he will likely be out of age range when the movie is cast.

They will be looking for someone young enough so several sequels can be made if the movie works as planned.

That, and 6'1" to 6'6" is not such a hard range to find guys in. I am convinced there are a dozen male actors out there, with the talent, and just as good, if not better look than Bomer.

The real key is to spend a lot of time auditioning different men, and really getting a big field to narrow it down from.

I doubt we are so short handed on untapped "Superman" looking actors that we will be down to the choice of someone who is otherwise great, but just a few inches too short, and no better options.

Webhead2006
10-27-2009, 11:24 AM
totally supermike next go around i hope they have a good long casting castings/auditions. Also for them to have a clear list of what they want visually, and what type of acting skills said actor should have. I am also sure there is probably loads of actors out there we dont even know about or who are not even in the acting field right now that could end up being a good fit.

Timstuff
10-27-2009, 12:26 PM
Just a quick reminder: HENRY CAVILL

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8342/henryhenrycavill5315253.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/i/henryhenrycavill5315253.jpg/)

6' 1"
square jaw
acting skilz
the ladies love him
athletic build
25 years old

:D

nintendo nerd
10-27-2009, 12:44 PM
Just a quick reminder: HENRY CAVILL

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8342/henryhenrycavill5315253.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/i/henryhenrycavill5315253.jpg/)

6' 1"
square jaw
acting skilz
the ladies love him
athletic build
25 years old

:D

:facepalm:

batman44
10-27-2009, 12:45 PM
He's actually 26.

Timstuff
10-27-2009, 01:03 PM
Whatever, same difference.

SuperMike335!!
10-27-2009, 01:36 PM
Just a quick reminder: HENRY CAVILL

6' 1"
square jaw
acting skilz
the ladies love him
athletic build
25 years old

:D

I think he should get an Audition for sure, but its not a case closed deal. If they find someone with an even better look, taller, and who can act just as well, and does not have to work to conceal on accent for example.

However, if he holds the accent, and does the Audtition better than anyone else, then sure.

Has he done any action roles, where he has had to get very physical, agressive in body language?

What is his range as far as showing anger, and such other strong emotions?

He seemed kind of monotone in most of the youtube videos I found.

Timstuff
10-27-2009, 03:20 PM
He had a duel scene in Count of Monte Cristo when he was younger, and did some dueling in The Tudors (not much though, since it's not an action show). Nothing big time, but I honestly doubt that it's going to be an issue regardless of who they cast (unless the actor has a brittle bone condition or something). Most of Superman's on-screen feats are accomplished through special effects, and unless we're going to see Supes doing "Krypton-Fu" like in the the Abrams treatment (ick), I see no pressing need for an actor who already has lots of action credentials.

As for his acting abilities, judging from his work on The Tudors I think Superman is well within his range. The real question is whether or not he'd make a good Clark Kent, which I suppose they'd need a screen test to determine. He's certainly capable of looking like Clark, though!

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7778/henrycavillneo2magazine.jpg

SuperMike335!!
10-27-2009, 04:37 PM
He had a duel scene in Count of Monte Cristo when he was younger, and did some dueling in The Tudors (not much though, since it's not an action show). Nothing big time, but I honestly doubt that it's going to be an issue regardless of who they cast (unless the actor has a brittle bone condition or something). Most of Superman's on-screen feats are accomplished through special effects, and unless we're going to see Supes doing "Krypton-Fu" like in the the Abrams treatment (ick), I see no pressing need for an actor who already has lots of action credentials.

As for his acting abilities, judging from his work on The Tudors I think Superman is well within his range. The real question is whether or not he'd make a good Clark Kent, which I suppose they'd need a screen test to determine. He's certainly capable of looking like Clark, though!



The picture in the Sweater is not really selling me on his Clark look. That picture looks more like a Brooding college student pondering the theories of Marx than a Reporter.He should get an Audition, but I don't think we are going to be pinning the cape on Superman here. You are right, the actor doesn't need to have a lot of action credentials. It should however be part of the Audition. The next superman is going to have to do some fighting, with more than just powers.

In most of Cavil's stuff he comes off very calm, Monotone, and I am not seeing a guy who looks like he could take a punch. He's seems like he would be easy enough to pound the heck out of. Now that does not mean he cannot come across as tough, I just have not seen it from him in anything YET. It also needs to be part of the Audition Criteria.

Regardless, ability to sell a brawl type of fight should be part of the Audition goals anyway, so they would find out there. Dueling with swords is different than a brawl like fight seen.

In the past such as the Donner movies, most of the fights were heavy on effects (dated by todays standard), but what a lot of Superman fans are looking forward to is a Super Brawl, with at least on Villain who can last a few rounds with Superman beating on eachother.

Not any formal Martial art (was he serious with Krypton Fu?), but a good brawl, with taking some punches, and landing some too.
So far, to me anyway, Cavil seems like a pretty boy, more than I would expect for Superman. Maybe its something about his eyes, just seems a little too soft for a guy who can take a punch. Not that the Actor has to be ugly, they do need to be good looking, but both good looking and tough looking, and to me Cavill seems like pretty.

Again, however all that stuff would be in the Audition. I do think he should get one. He is a good actor, and I leave the opinion open and he could still change my mind. I don't think that stuff was in the SR version of Auditions back in 2006, as nothing remotely like a fight or being tough other than having powers and lifting things ended up on screen, this time they need to test every actor for that stuff as well.

I SEE SPIDEY
10-27-2009, 05:21 PM
My sister said that she'll try and catch White Collar because of how gorgeous Matt Bomer is. And he is just that.

Bomer was and still is my second pick when it comes to fantasy casting. With the exception of the height there is no doubt that he has a great look for Superman. So does Cavill and so does Routh. My problem with Routh is that I didn't care for his acting in the role, thats the only problem I have with him because he does, infact, look like Superman.

I'm not one of those people who thinks that only one guy has the Superman look.

FilmNerdJamie
10-27-2009, 06:47 PM
I'm not one of those people who thinks that only one guy has the Superman look.

Thank God.

B
10-27-2009, 10:30 PM
I'm not one of those people who thinks that only one guy has the Superman look.

Does anyone?

When it comes to 'the look' its pretty much about personal taste mostly, there is a few.. guidelines I suppose you could call them for the look. Pretty much as long as the actor falls within those guidelines there will always be some people who will like the casting. Ultimately I am beyond caring, heck even if Triple H was cast as Superman I'd still go see the film regardless of how I feel about the casting.

One thing is for sure, it doesn't matter who plays Superman in the next film. There will be some people who love the casting & some that don't... can't please everyone. :O

Webhead2006
10-28-2009, 12:05 AM
Totally there is a certain aspects in a person's look i want to see for superman. But i dont want all superman to end up looking like reeve for ever. I think its time for a new look. But yes certain things need to be there, but not to be totally identital to past looks.

Timstuff
10-28-2009, 12:27 AM
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3594/henrycavill03.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/i/henrycavill03.jpg/)

:D

Lucid
10-28-2009, 03:59 AM
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Timstuff
10-28-2009, 04:12 AM
I just finished my latest "Superman Begins" casting sheet. Take a look and tell me what you you all think!

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/Timstuff_photos/superman-cast-02.jpg

Young Superman
10-28-2009, 05:29 AM
I just finished my latest "Superman Begins" casting sheet. Take a look and tell me what you you all think!

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/Timstuff_photos/superman-cast-02.jpg
Awesome cast.:up::D

Blackman
10-28-2009, 05:32 AM
I like your Jor El and Lara choices there my top ones as well
MOnaghan as Lois...eh I dont mind her so I guess she could pull it off shes more Catwoman to me
Quaid and Bullock as Pa and Ma...I dont really like it. Quaid is fine, Bullock not so much. I think it's because I dont know they seem so...youthful
Kevin Dunn. I like him so it would be cool to see him get work in a big movie again
Vosloo as Braniac...Only seen him in GI Joe
Urban as Metallo...That could work
Hall as Luthor. Left field choice. I dont really see him in the role that much
Yelchin as Jimmy. Maybe. I like him as an actor so that could be good
Cavill as Superman. I dont really like him that much for the role

Timstuff
10-28-2009, 05:50 AM
With the Sandra Bullock suggestion, I picked her because I think the actors for John and Martha need to be young-looking enough that they can look the right age when they discover Baby-Kal's ship, as well as his adult parents. Bullock might be considered too hot to be Martha, but the fact of the matter is that she is old enough to have a son who's in his 20's, even though time has been remarkably kind on her. Changing her haircut, giving her glasses, and giving her a more minimalist makeup treatment during the scenes with adult Clark could go a long way to make it look like she's aged over the course of the film, though (same could be said for Quade, as well as putting a touch of gray in his hair).

Alien Anal
10-28-2009, 10:30 AM
The problem with fan boy casting is that we can really only see the actors do their best "superman" impression in their acting as another character

We might just get that Cavil dude but there is a good chance he will be directed to act a particular way that wont be what we wanted.

nintendo nerd
10-28-2009, 11:20 AM
I just finished my latest "Superman Begins" casting sheet. Take a look and tell me what you you all think!

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/Timstuff_photos/superman-cast-02.jpg

Wasting so much time on a cast on a cast you will NEVER see on the big screen. :o

GreenKToo
10-28-2009, 12:37 PM
I like your cast, but I would change a few.

I'd rather have a huge name for Lex..someone like Depp or day-Lewis..

Genna Davis would be my pick for Martha.

Hugo weaving for Brainiac...yeah, I know, he's done alot of similar roles, but if it ain't broke....

Alec Baldwin would be my choice for Perry

Kiefer Sutherland for Metallo.

I SEE SPIDEY
10-28-2009, 12:40 PM
Nintendo Nerd, we are all wasting time on a messageboard talking about mostly unimportant s**t for hours on end.

GreenKToo
10-28-2009, 12:45 PM
(GASP!!) unimportant to who?? :mad: :p

I SEE SPIDEY
10-28-2009, 12:55 PM
(GASP!!) unimportant to who?? :mad: :plol, non nerds.:o

Timstuff
10-28-2009, 12:57 PM
Genna Davis would be my pick for Martha.

Darnit, why couldn't I have thought of that? :cmad:

I'm putting my updated casting sheet. Sandra Bullock was mostly on there because I couldn't think of anyone better and I wanted to get it finished.

Webhead2006
10-28-2009, 01:04 PM
nice list timstuff, i would be down for pretty much all of the list.

Timstuff
10-28-2009, 01:15 PM
2.0 of the casting sheet, now with 100% more Geena Davis.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/Timstuff_photos/superman-cast-02-1.jpg

nintendo nerd
10-28-2009, 01:16 PM
lol, non nerds.:o

http://m3moore.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/nerd.jpg

I SEE SPIDEY
10-28-2009, 01:20 PM
Interesting sig.

nintendo nerd
10-28-2009, 01:24 PM
Interesting sig.

Can't hide my feelings :yay:

I SEE SPIDEY
10-28-2009, 01:26 PM
Can't hide my feelings :yay:I've noticed.:cwink:

Young Superman
10-28-2009, 02:06 PM
Jared Padalecki is my top pick for the role of Clark Kent/Superman in a reboot.
http://i26.tinypic.com/2qi8ahd.jpghttp://th02.deviantart.net/fs28/300W/i/2008/112/2/7/Action_comics__s_Superman_by_JoshTempleton.jpg

nintendo nerd
10-28-2009, 02:35 PM
Jared Padalecki is my top pick for the role of Clark Kent/Superman in a reboot.
http://i26.tinypic.com/2qi8ahd.jpghttp://th02.deviantart.net/fs28/300W/i/2008/112/2/7/Action_comics__s_Superman_by_JoshTempleton.jpg

Nothing screams Superman.

Man of Tomorrow
10-28-2009, 02:58 PM
Jared and the Reeve-ish Superman next to him is like night and day.

GreenKToo
10-28-2009, 03:26 PM
I can't help be wonder if WB might be looking at ''re-imagining'' Superman, you know, something like what Burton was going to do....Nothing has suggested that of course, but I still can't help but wonder.

Wolfman
10-28-2009, 06:18 PM
Nothing screams Superman.

Jared Padalecki was also suggested as Conan the Barbarian over at the misc. films board... :whatever:

B
10-28-2009, 09:29 PM
He'd need to be playing a 18 year old Conan & even then he could still do with throwing on a bit more muscle :D

I dunno about Jared Padalecki.. he pretty much looks like a boy to me. Then again he'll probably be about 35 by the time the next film is made so he could well be a valid shout.. :P

I find it odd that after so many people complained that Brandon Routh looked too young for the role, that here we are 3 years down the line with suggestions of people who look even younger than he did at the time :O

Man of Tomorrow
10-28-2009, 09:48 PM
He just doesn't resemble Superman facially

http://missleahyeung.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/jared-padalecki-8.jpg


I think he's a decent actor however from what little I've seen of Supernatural.

RachelDawes
10-28-2009, 09:50 PM
Jared Padalecki was also suggested as Conan the Barbarian over at the misc. films board... :whatever:

I don't think he was suggested so much as it's been rumored that he's being looked at for the role.

RachelDawes
10-28-2009, 09:53 PM
I think his face is one of his worst attributes for Supes, go figure :confused:

What don't you like about his face?

Webhead2006
10-29-2009, 12:00 AM
i do like jared on supernatural grown alot since his gilmore girls days. I would be ok with him, like a few others.

As for reimaging i dont think they need to go all out crazy like burton was trying to do and all that. That will just alinate the fans and general movie goers who knows the basis of superman character and all that.

Timstuff
10-29-2009, 01:58 AM
He just doesn't resemble Superman facially

http://missleahyeung.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/jared-padalecki-8.jpg


I think he's a decent actor however from what little I've seen of Supernatural.

Oink oink!

Blackman
10-29-2009, 06:40 AM
Timstuff, what program did you use to make your casting thing. Just MS Paint?
I think I want to make one of my casting

El Payaso
10-29-2009, 07:23 AM
Oink oink!

:joker:

Bruce_Begins
10-29-2009, 09:01 AM
NO to Jared Padalecki, Jim Caviezel, Matthew Bomer, Henry Cavill look more like Superman than him.

Timstuff
10-29-2009, 12:10 PM
Timstuff, what program did you use to make your casting thing. Just MS Paint?
I think I want to make one of my casting

Photoshop.

markaudette
10-29-2009, 07:53 PM
You know what my problem is?

As I get older, my image of Superman also gets a little older.

I just don't want an actor who looks youthful. I prefer healthy looking to baby faced.

Timstuff
10-29-2009, 08:09 PM
Are you saying that young people aren't healthy? :huh:

Nightwing1977
10-29-2009, 10:14 PM
Whatever, same difference.

Not really. A year older is quite different. ;)



As for his acting abilities, judging from his work on The Tudors I think Superman is well within his range. The real question is whether or not he'd make a good Clark Kent, which I suppose they'd need a screen test to determine. He's certainly capable of looking like Clark, though!



But is his role the same like Superman in The Tudors? A guy who is 2 different people: one a mild mannered human & the other is a tough, strong super being. I don't see that in The Tudors, so I can't just praise him for being the right person for Supes yet until he can prove he has it. Like say.....screen test.

And you suppose they need a screen test for him? Of course they should!! It silly to cast him just because some say he look like the role & can act or that he is a popular choice. Chance are, he might suck at the screen test. It dumb to hired someone & not give them a screen test. Hell, Clooney is a good actor & didn't even do screen testing for Batman & Robin. We all know how that turn out. :p

He just doesn't resemble Superman facially

http://missleahyeung.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/jared-padalecki-8.jpg




Neither does Cavill & some still want him in the role. :D :D

nintendo nerd
10-29-2009, 10:25 PM
It's really sad that after all this months of new suggestions for Superman, nobody looks as good as this guy:

http://www.topnews.in/files/images/BrandonRouth4.jpg

Too bad he won't be playing supes again :csad:

Webhead2006
10-29-2009, 10:48 PM
well who knows when we will ever be in the real casting stage for superman. Hopefully the next guys on board wont be going through so much problems trying to cast the role.

cronosred
10-29-2009, 11:12 PM
It's really sad that after all this months of new suggestions for Superman, nobody looks as good as this guy:

http://www.topnews.in/files/images/BrandonRouth4.jpg

Too bad he won't be playing supes again :csad:


After all this time I think the only problem I really had with Routh was that when I watched this movie I felt like I was watching a guy trying to do a Chris Reeve impression. Had Singer let him do an original version I think I probably would have liked him more. I'm curious if they'll keep the cameo in Green Lantern because If they show someone as Clark/Superman I would think they would be tied to that actor for the next Superman movie.

B
10-29-2009, 11:25 PM
There have been several people suggested who'd fit the role well & that is just the people that 'the internet' can think off.

With the some 6 billion(?) people in the world I'm pretty sure there are thousands of actors whom are unknown to us & more than capable of the role.

All the actors whom have portrayed the character have come from pretty much nothing.. finding people like Routh, Welling & most importantly Reeve certainly where not flukes/one-offs.

Timstuff
10-29-2009, 11:47 PM
But is his role the same like Superman in The Tudors? A guy who is 2 different people: one a mild mannered human & the other is a tough, strong super being. I don't see that in The Tudors, so I can't just praise him for being the right person for Supes yet until he can prove he has it. Like say.....screen test.

If that's the case, why even bother with this thread if the only valid suggestions are people who have essentially already played Superman? That's like saying "I don't want this actor as Hannibal Lecter because I've never seen him play a serial killer." Cavill is a good actor and looks like Superman, so that's as good a place to start as any. Also, he was almost Superman on Abrams' cancelled project, so clearly he was doing something right to get that far.

Webhead2006
10-29-2009, 11:55 PM
yea there could be many great people who could play superman we dont even know of right now or someone we do know but didnt expect them to be a contender for the superman role. Whos to really say what will happen.

As for the clark kent cameo for GL i still doubt it will be left into the film once it goes into production. With superman a no go right now. It would be a dumb move to put anyone in that cameo when we dont know if/when another film will happen let alone what the film will be.

markaudette
10-30-2009, 12:44 AM
To clarify what I last posted: I like my Superman to looking a little husky. A little barrell chested rather than svelte. Physically imposing.

And there's no way I would post pics who I would like to see take the mantle. Because casting Superman just about has to be one of the hardest casting jobs in all of movie history. Even harder than than Wolverine (you all know why...). And I don't have good enough of an eye to even begin to say who I think would make a good candidate.

Honestly, I still accept Brandon Routh as Superman. Pack on about 35 more pounds of pure muscle, take a few more Superman acting lessons, get a director who lets Brandon chew through some dialog and I am a happy camper.

GreenKToo
10-30-2009, 08:21 AM
I won't hold my breath on an *actual* closeup cameo of superman..IMHo, if its anything at all, it will prolly be something like showing Superman at a distance flying. Or, C.K.'s nameplate on a desk at the D.P, with a shot of the back of an actors head sitting at a desk playing him...
There are lots of ways they can do it without actually having to show an actors face portraying him...

Timstuff
10-30-2009, 10:42 AM
Here's another pic of Cavill with glasses.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8929/2agu3ih.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/2agu3ih.jpg/)

Looks like Clark to me!

solidsnake86
10-30-2009, 10:45 AM
I won't hold my breath on an *actual* closeup cameo of superman..IMHo, if its anything at all, it will prolly be something like showing Superman at a distance flying. Or, C.K.'s nameplate on a desk at the D.P, with a shot of the back of an actors head sitting at a desk playing him...
There are lots of ways they can do it without actually having to show an actors face portraying him...

Thats probably exactly what there going to do, have his name plate on the desk and just show the torse or his back. I don't know why people have such a hard time understanding how there going to do the scene, superman wasn't even mentioned in the script, it was clark kent so nothing is being taken away from GL.

markaudette
10-30-2009, 11:22 AM
I'd love for all the prospective directors to make a 3 minute test reel of some inconic Superman moments. Then release it for the fans to vote on ...or something.

It won't happen but it would be nice to be on the extreme fringe of the outer edge of the inside of the very beginnings of what could be the next great rebirth of the Superman movie franchise.

Man of Tomorrow
10-30-2009, 11:41 AM
It's really sad that after all this months of new suggestions for Superman, nobody looks as good as this guy:

http://www.topnews.in/files/images/BrandonRouth4.jpg

Too bad he won't be playing supes again :csad:



:doh: It would be really unfortunate if WB doesn't want to go for another unknown again...



I'm skeptical that we'll get someone with the 'Superman look' this time around

Timstuff
10-30-2009, 11:48 AM
It depends on what you consider an "unknown." Do you consider an unknown to be someone who hasn't gotten their big break yet, or to be someone who has little to no experience outside of commercials and / or soaps-- or even someone who has never acted in a pofessional production?

IMO saying you want an actor whom you've never heard of for a role is essentially declaring indifference. It's not an actual opinion of who you want, it's just stating that you're not satisfied with any of the options you've already seen.

I'm skeptical that we'll get someone with the 'Superman look' this time around

The "superman look" is subjective. Personally, I think Henry Cavill looks exactly like Superman ought to, and yet others can't see it. On the same token, I don't really see Superman in Routh as much as a lot of other people do, even though many of them will insist that he's perfect. Pretty much everyone seems to agree that Reeve looks like Superman, but not necessarily for the same reasons. Routh has a lot of the qualities Reeve had, but they're not necessarily all qualities I'd associate with Superman. On the other hand, I think Cavill has a lot of the qualities I associate with Superman, but not a lot of qualities that many people associate with Reeve.

Man of Tomorrow
10-30-2009, 12:04 PM
It depends on what you consider an "unknown." Do you consider an unknown to be someone who hasn't gotten their big break yet, or to be someone who has little to no experience outside of commercials and / or soaps-- or even someone who has never acted in a pofessional production?

IMO saying you want an actor whom you've never heard of for a role is essentially declaring indifference. It's not an actual opinion of who you want, it's just stating that you're not satisfied with any of the options you've already seen.


An unknown = Routh before SR. Someone who wasn't even on the fanboys' radar.

Because at this point there's really no 'known' actors that work as Superman physically... unless WB wants to pull a 'Superman Lives' and change the appearance of the character..



The "superman look" is subjective. Personally, I think Henry Cavill looks exactly like Superman ought to, and yet others can't see it. On the same token, I don't really see Superman in Routh as much as a lot of other people do, even though many of them will insist that he's perfect. Pretty much everyone seems to agree that Reeve looks like Superman, but not necessarily for the same reasons. Routh has a lot of the qualities Reeve had, but they're not necessarily all qualities I'd associate with Superman.

The biggest problem with trying to move away from the Reeve look for Superman is 70-80% of DC comicbook artists currently (and have before) use Reeve as a visual template for Superman.

And there's no indication that's gonna change anytime soon..


So I can understand the association between that look and Supes.




On the other hand, I think Cavill has a lot of the qualities I associate with Superman, but not a lot of qualities that many people associate with Reeve.

Hoping for Cavill is about as pointless as hoping for Routh at this point though. They aren't gonna pull up the candidates from the previous failed projects.

Nightwing1977
10-30-2009, 12:12 PM
Cavill is a good actor and looks like Superman, so that's as good a place to start as any.



Being a good actor doesn't mean any roles you play, you will nail it. Like I said before, good actors are not always going to be great at everything they play. Spacey a fantastic actor & many hate his performance as Luthor. That is a perfect example right there. Until Cavill has shown his screen test as Supes, he is a big question mark & I'll wait first before I label him as some "savior" to do Supes right.

And looking like him (I don't see what he has beside the weird cheekbone/jaw, which doesn't look right for Supes) isn't the only thing he need. He haven't shown he can play Superman yet.



Also, he was almost Superman on Abrams' cancelled project, so clearly he was doing something right to get that far.



Really? Routh played Superman, so I guess he was doing something right to get that role. ;)

But Cavill being almost Supes doesn't mean he was doing something right as I mention before. Not to mention people complain Routh was too young when he was hired, but Cavill would've been a hell lot younger during the abandoned Abrams's story. Can't people wait & see his screen test first before saying he is Superman? It's fine if some of you guys want him in it, but some need to see his screen test before claiming he won't do any wrong at all in the role like it's a fact.

Timstuff
10-30-2009, 12:15 PM
Hoping for Cavill is about as pointless as hoping for Routh at this point though. They aren't gonna pull up the candidates from the previous failed projects.

What baggage does Cavill carry with him that makes him undesirable as a candidate? With Routh it's SR, and with Welling it's Smallville. So what Superman-related project has Cavill actually appeared in that would cause the studio to see him as damaged goods?

Timstuff
10-30-2009, 12:30 PM
Can't people wait & see his screen test first before saying he is Superman?

No, because none of us can afford to pay 5 figures to have him fly out and let us film him in a Superman costume. We are not going to see his or any actor's screen test before the movie is out, much less before it's even been cast! We can only judge actors based on what work they've already done. I have seen Cavill's work and I think he's better than Routh, and on top of that I think he's got a great look as Superman. Your entire argument against him seems to be hinged around "there might be something wrong with how he plays Superman or Clark, so I don't want him unless I see a screen test of him first." Actors don't come pre-packaged like that. When it comes to fan-casting, can either pick someone who's got talent and look and hope for the best, you can typecast someone who has essentially played the same character in another movie, or you can simply say "I don't like any of the candidates I've seen, so I'll leave it to the director to figure out."

The only way you're going to get a pre-packaged Superman is if you want someone who has already played him, and that's not going to happen. Also, as Christopher Reeve said to Starlog, "Superman is 90% looks." If an actor has the look, talent, and charisma, it should not matter if they've played "a complex dualistic character" before. The hardest part about playing Superman is an always will always be looking like Superman. Of course being able to convincingly convey emotion is important too, but the look is the part that is usually of top concern to directors, so much that Superman Lives completely fell apart largely because Nick Cage couldn't look like Superman, even though Burton had great faith in his acting ability. It's not like you need to have an Oscar to be qualified to play him-- just look at Reeve and Routh.

NotFadeAway
10-30-2009, 01:25 PM
What baggage does Cavill carry with him that makes him undesirable as a candidate? With Routh it's SR, and with Welling it's Smallville. So what Superman-related project has Cavill actually appeared in that would cause the studio to see him as damaged goods?

Excellent point. I don't think enough people see that.

Was Christian Bale disqualified from Batman contention because he auditioned for Robin in Batman Forever.....No he was not. And to believe that Chris O'Donnell was choosen over Bale. Thank God! Which is kinda how I feel about Routh getting cast in Returns over a Cavill or Bomer, thank God, because Cavill and Bomer still have a shot.

NotFadeAway
10-30-2009, 01:32 PM
These are the actors that I would bring in for a screen test:

Matt Bomer (the height bugaboo)

Henry Cavill (speaks for itself)

Scott Porter (looks like Kirk Alyn)

Alexander Skarsgard (how would he look with darkened hair?)

Armie Hammer (I liked the Billy Graham footage, but I'm still curious if he can made to look less douchey)

Joshua Jackson (looks like George Reeves, imo. I think he could nail Clark Kent, but I don't know about Supes.)

Enver Gjokaj (looks really foreign, but hey, the character is from another planet. Either way, I'd cast this guy in a live action adaption of Red Son.)

Webhead2006
10-30-2009, 01:42 PM
I won't hold my breath on an *actual* closeup cameo of superman..IMHo, if its anything at all, it will prolly be something like showing Superman at a distance flying. Or, C.K.'s nameplate on a desk at the D.P, with a shot of the back of an actors head sitting at a desk playing him...
There are lots of ways they can do it without actually having to show an actors face portraying him...
That I would go about it to myself if they wanted to keep that cameo in. Though i still say why bother with a superman/clark kent cameo right now. When we know superman on film is going no where right now. I rather drop it so we dont have to worry about how it would look or who would be in the cameo if we actually saw anyone.

So then when ever superman does get back on track he has a clean slate and starts fresh and new. Also doesnt have to worry about being one thing over another.

As for superman's look i have said it a few times. As much much as i liked the Reeve movies/reeve's look for superman. Which has been the defining look for the past 30 odd years or so. I really think the next time around we should get out of that look mold. So the next guy can define his superman for the next generation or so.

RachelDawes
10-30-2009, 02:04 PM
Excellent point. I don't think enough people see that.

Was Christian Bale disqualified from Batman contention because he auditioned for Robin in Batman Forever.....No he was not. And to believe that Chris O'Donnell was choosen over Bale. Thank God! Which is kinda how I feel about Routh getting cast in Returns over a Cavill or Bomer, thank God, because Cavill and Bomer still have a shot.

I believe that audition was just an internet rumor.

Dark Knight
10-30-2009, 02:37 PM
Here's another pic of Cavill with glasses.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8929/2agu3ih.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/2agu3ih.jpg/)

Looks like Clark to me!







Sure does......just needs to shave and bulk up!

Dark Knight
10-30-2009, 02:47 PM
2.0 of the casting sheet, now with 100% more Geena Davis.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/Timstuff_photos/superman-cast-02-1.jpg




Like the casting overall.

I would replace Monaghan with Anne Hathaway as Lois.

I would cast Ed Harris as Perry White and cast Daniel Day Lewis or Hugo Weaving or Viggo Mortensen as Braniac.

There has to be another actress that would be a better fit for Martha Kent though right?

I think the chemistry between Cavill and Hathaway would be outstanding after thinking about it.

batman strikes
10-30-2009, 02:49 PM
But wasn't Christian Bale considered for Batman vs. Superman and Batman Year One. So there is a slight possibility that Cavill and Bomer will be looked at again.

Webhead2006
10-30-2009, 03:12 PM
actually if i recall wolfgang wanted jude law and collin farrel for batman/superman in his film.

Man of Tomorrow
10-30-2009, 04:16 PM
Excellent point. I don't think enough people see that.

Was Christian Bale disqualified from Batman contention because he auditioned for Robin in Batman Forever.....No he was not. And to believe that Chris O'Donnell was choosen over Bale. Thank God! Which is kinda how I feel about Routh getting cast in Returns over a Cavill or Bomer, thank God, because Cavill and Bomer still have a shot.

Bale himself debunked that rumor.

Man of Tomorrow
10-30-2009, 04:20 PM
What baggage does Cavill carry with him that makes him undesirable as a candidate? With Routh it's SR, and with Welling it's Smallville. So what Superman-related project has Cavill actually appeared in that would cause the studio to see him as damaged goods?

Nothing to do with baggage.


The impression I got from TMT is that Warners wants the next Superman project to have zero ties to any of the failed attempts; and they will essentially be looking for new actors that weren't tied to the Burton/Ratner/McG/Singer stuff.


And Welling was never associated with any of this to begin with, his case is irrelevant.

B
10-30-2009, 05:12 PM
Here's another pic of Cavill with glasses.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8929/2agu3ih.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/2agu3ih.jpg/)

Looks like Clark to me!

I'm definatly digging Cavill's look for Clark/Superman :up:

Hes the perfect age, blue eyes, strong face & has no 'baggage' with any other Superman project.. at least that the general public would be aware off.
Hes definatly my favourate for the role based on the people I'm aware of that could have a valid chance :up:


The impression I got from TMT is that Warners wants the next Superman project to have zero ties to any of the failed attempts; and they will essentially be looking for new actors that weren't tied to the Burton/Ratner/McG/Singer stuff.

Who told you that?

Doesn't seem very logical that WB would rule him out based on his association with a film that never got out of the blocks..

Ruling people like Welling & Routh out I could easily believe as their respective projects where both made/are being made.

NotFadeAway
10-30-2009, 05:27 PM
Yea Man of Tomorrow. What do you say to that?

Webhead2006
10-30-2009, 05:39 PM
well we all know we have no clue what is going to happen with casting next time around.

Man of Tomorrow
10-30-2009, 05:51 PM
That's what I got from TMT and FNJ's posts. Ask him about Cavill's likelihood.

I remember him or Show mentioning the candidates of the failed projects are ancient history now to WB.

B
10-30-2009, 06:05 PM
I don't even think WB knows what they are going to do yet nevermind anyone else knowing..

Logically it doesn't make much sense that they'd rule out a perfectly acceptable candidate for the part, simply because he had a connection to a film involving the same character that never really got out of the blocks.

Man of Tomorrow
10-30-2009, 06:08 PM
When has logic ever applied to their decisions?

There's also the fact they want an American actor in the role, Show mentioned that as well.

I'd consider that illogical as well, but it's their call to make.. and it doesn't help Cavill.

I SEE SPIDEY
10-30-2009, 06:10 PM
Sorry guys but I don't think Cavill has a chance.

B
10-30-2009, 06:21 PM
When has logic ever applied to their decisions?

Good point :D

There's also the fact they want an American actor in the role, Show mentioned that as well.

I'd consider that illogical as well, but it's their call to make.. and it doesn't help Cavill.

Where did it say all this?

I know Superman is essentially an American character.. but then again so is Batman & Christian Bale was picked ahead of I'm sure alot of American candidates for that role.

I don't think it would matter what nationality the actor was, providing they looked the part & didn't have a definitive accent from any particular place England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland etc or at least have the ability to disguise their accent.

RachelDawes
10-30-2009, 07:46 PM
I know Superman is essentially an American character.. but then again so is Batman & Christian Bale was picked ahead of I'm sure alot of American candidates for that role.

I believe WB's thinking is that Superman is like DC's version of Captain America and needs to be played by an American, unlike Batman.

I don't think it would matter what nationality the actor was, providing they looked the part & didn't have a definitive accent from any particular place England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland etc or at least have the ability to disguise their accent.

I don't want a nationality test, either. It's already so hard to cast a good Superman; why impose needless limits on what actors you can consider?

B
10-30-2009, 08:12 PM
I believe WB's thinking is that Superman is like DC's version of Captain America and needs to be played by an American, unlike Batman.

Dunno, I'd think think that would be kinda discriminating if someone was perfect for the role in every way look, voice, acting ability.. the lot & was then subsequently denied the role on the basis that he was not a born American.

Is this actually a fact that they want an American as Man of Tomarrow said or is it merely a rumor thats been mistaken for fact at this point?

I don't want a nationality test, either. It's already so hard to cast a good Superman; why impose needless limits on what actors you can consider?

Exactly, if they can disguise their accent to the same fashion people like Hugh Jackman, Heath Ledger, Hugh Laurie, Christian Bale etc etc all can then they are good to go I feel.

batman strikes
10-30-2009, 08:22 PM
I believe WB's thinking is that Superman is like DC's version of Captain America and needs to be played by an American, unlike Batman.



I don't want a nationality test, either. It's already so hard to cast a good Superman; why impose needless limits on what actors you can consider?

I kind of get what WB is going for here... but on the other hand Superman is technically an immigrant that was brought up in this country, so it would be kind of stupid to not look at other people from other countries for the role.

Webhead2006
10-30-2009, 11:44 PM
Yup for all we know all the present names we are talking about (minus maybe armie hammer due to his young age) could likely not even be on the radar by the time we get another film going.

NotFadeAway
10-31-2009, 01:25 AM
I can see why WB would want an American to play Superman, because it is a very iconic character for the country. But at the same time, Superman is the ultimate immigrant and it wouldn't bother me a bit for a foreign actor to play Superman because it would have a nice melting pot touch, and one of the men who created Superman happened to be Canadian.

But, now that I think about it, little Kal-El is somewhat of an illegal immigrant......hmmm. Oh well, Clark Kent pays his taxes and Superman saves the world, so I guess it's no big deal.

And by the way, with another episode of White Collar down, I want Bomer that much more. I can honestly say I have no problem with his build and height, if that would be the only critique, thats fine by me.

Webhead2006
10-31-2009, 02:07 AM
Yea i wouldnt mind if he is american or english or what not. As long as he can have a good american accent, and looks cassucian that is important.

Webhead2006
10-31-2009, 02:07 AM
Yea i wouldnt mind if he is american or english or what not. As long as he can have a good american accent, and looks cassucian that is important.

Timstuff
10-31-2009, 03:31 AM
His name isn't "Supermerica," so I don't really see Supes' situation as being comparable to Captain America's. He is DC's equivalent to Captain America, and he does embody our ideals, but he is also an immigrant, so I don't see what's wrong with having a Brit play him-- especially that Cavill is arguably about as close we're going to get to a perfect candidate. 26 years old, 6' 1", black hair, blue eyes, square jaw, sturdy shoulders, etc. and on top of all that he's a good actor. WB would be morons to throw all that out just because he wasn't born in America or because he was considered for the role in projects that got canceled.

MAN O STEEL
10-31-2009, 09:39 AM
My attempt at a Mathew Bomer manip


http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7166/jhn1v2.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/i/jhn1v2.jpg/)





Steve

cin0
10-31-2009, 09:55 AM
well cino i never had a problem with her during seasons 1 and 2 when she was just the girl next door character but by the the seasons 3-7, and her 5 episode arc in season 8 they just continuly put her character in stupid storylines and the whole draging out of the lana and clark relationship they just totally killed the character's likeablity to me.

ok, i feel u.

Webhead2006
10-31-2009, 12:33 PM
nice bomer manip man o steel.

Yea cin0 smallville's lana just got stupid and i just hated her mostly, not against KK who played her.