The Official Superman Casting Thread [Archive] - Page 9

SuperMike335!!

10-31-2009, 02:16 PM

nice bomer manip man o steel.

Yea cin0 smallville's lana just got stupid and i just hated her mostly, not against KK who played her.

Yeah her story got out of hand.

They should have just had him tell her his secret 4 seasons ago, before he left to go to MetU.

And he should have been flying a while ago too.

Thats how I always thought that would go down, him telling her, then flying with her, telling her who he really was, her understanding, and then the tear drop ending of him having to leave to find his way in the world.

Webhead2006

10-31-2009, 02:25 PM

that would have been better then what they did but oh well cant change it now.

Back to casting i wonder how things will end up going next time.

RachelDawes

10-31-2009, 02:43 PM

Is this actually a fact that they want an American as Man of Tomarrow said or is it merely a rumor thats been mistaken for fact at this point?

That I can't say. It's probably a rumor, and I doubt anything is set in stone since we won't be getting a Superman movie for a long time.

My attempt at a Mathew Bomer manip

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7166/jhn1v2.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/i/jhn1v2.jpg/)

This is incredible! Bomer looks perfect as Superman. :wow:

NotFadeAway

10-31-2009, 03:00 PM

My attempt at a Mathew Bomer manip

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7166/jhn1v2.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/i/jhn1v2.jpg/)

Steve

Very nice:yay:

Also, I think Bomer could make either the Kingdom Come suit or the Superman X/Kell-EL suit look really slick.

Webhead2006

10-31-2009, 03:00 PM

that was a well made bomer manip. But yea on the serious note we likely are probably going to be 5-7 yrs to another film. Unless things do change in the near future with all the legal troubles. But then if the legal stuff is solved we know getting a script and a new direction will probably take awhile for wb to figure things out still.

Timstuff

11-01-2009, 01:39 AM

2x post

Timstuff

11-01-2009, 01:46 AM

My casting sheet continues to evolve...

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/633/supermancast02v3.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/i/supermancast02v3.jpg/)

Next person to get swapped out is probably going to be Karl Urban, since I've currently got 3 Star Trek guys in there and 3 Terminator Alumni (although it's 3 between 2 different continuities, so that doesn't quite count). ;)

GreenKToo

11-01-2009, 06:50 AM

Kiefer sutherland for metallo.

Eddie Dean

11-01-2009, 09:34 AM

GreenKToo

11-01-2009, 09:47 AM

Ohhh..I like it.

SuperMike335!!

11-01-2009, 10:26 AM

Clancy Brown could make a nice Perry. He's got the right mix of comedic and commanding, plus there's the nice little connection of him voicing Lex Luthor and all. :cwink:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3591/clancybrownlostinman.jpg

Why not?

He is a good actor too. Just get the old shaving cream out.

http://www.johncranetoday.com/tasks/sites/johncranetoday/assets/Image/barbasol.jpg

NotFadeAway

11-01-2009, 11:57 AM

SuperMike335!!

11-01-2009, 12:59 PM

The way I see it, there are two casting models that the next Superman movie should follow, the Batman Begins/Dark Knight model, and the Abrams Star Trek model. The BB/TDK model is to get a bunch of oscar level actors, while the Trek model would be to find a bunch of unheralded, but younger and charismatic actors that fit there parts, along with one big name guy like an Eric Bana.

I say we follow the Trek model......

Certainly.

With the unheralded, lesser known, or in some cases unknown, I think the quality is just as good.
Some "Oscar" actors are not really the best actors anyway. Often awards like the Oscars are more about Politics and favoritism than the ability to act. With an lesser known we get to suspend disbelief and see superman easier, and we don't end up seeing "so and so's latest film".

The most important thing is for the right criteria. Specific name drops on the thread are less usefull than just having the right criteria.

Likely we will not get Cavill, Bomer, etc... but if WB goes by the right criteria, we will see "superman" in the next actor.

NotFadeAway

11-01-2009, 01:00 PM

Certainly.

With the unheralded, lesser known, or in some cases unknown, I think the quality is just as good. With an lesser known we get to suspend disbelief and see superman easier, and we don't end up seeing "so and so's latest film".

The most important thing is for the right criteria. Specific name drops on the thread are less usefull than just having the right criteria.

Likely we will not get Cavill, Bomer, etc... but if WB goes by the right criteria, we will see "superman" in the next actor.

While your probbaly right that we won't get Bomer, I've said it before and I'll say it again, Bomer could be for Superman what Chris Pine was for Captain Kirk.

Webhead2006

11-01-2009, 01:20 PM

interesting new list.

Nightwing1977

11-01-2009, 04:23 PM

No, because none of us can afford to pay 5 figures to have him fly out and let us film him in a Superman costume. We are not going to see his or any actor's screen test before the movie is out, much less before it's even been cast!

You mean you, not WB? I'm sure WB can handle paying that much. It's important to have whoever is going to play Supes does a screen test.

We can only judge actors based on what work they've already done.

But have he done something like Superman? Not really. Beside, having a good body of work doesn't mean you're right for something like Supes. That doesn't work that way. Time & time again has shown even great actor will look terrible in a different role.

I have seen Cavill's work and I think he's better than Routh

Yeah, for a role that is not Superman compare to Routh.

Your entire argument against him seems to be hinged around "there might be something wrong with how he plays Superman or Clark, so I don't want him unless I see a screen test of him first." Actors don't come pre-packaged like that.

Really? Tell that to Robert Downey Jr. He is a great actor & he did a screen test for Iron Man anyway. Nolan did the same with Bale too despite him having more experience than Cavill. That is what a director should do when he look at an actor for a role, because chance are that Cavill doesn't do a screen test & then we see that he suck as Superman. I'm not saying he is going to suck, but he could be. Being a great actor on some tv show doesn't always translate on the big screen.

When it comes to fan-casting, can either pick someone who's got talent and look and hope for the best

And that why he need a screen test. It a better way to show he can nail it.

"I don't like any of the candidates I've seen, so I'll leave it to the director to figure out."

That what I'm ok with there. I didn't like the idea of Ledger as Joker when the news broke out, but I waited to see if Nolan was smart in his decision & it work.

The only way you're going to get a pre-packaged Superman is if you want someone who has already played him, and that's not going to happen.

But you seem to imply that Cavill is Superman like he already is based on his work.

Also, as Christopher Reeve said to Starlog, "Superman is 90% looks."

So, look is more important than acting? Interesting quote there from "Superman is 90% looks".

It's not like you need to have an Oscar to be qualified to play him-- just look at Reeve and Routh.

I never have a problem if someone who play Supes isn't an Oscar type. Just someone who can act the part along with having that look, which Cage doesn't based on his eyes & hairline.

SuperMike335!!

11-01-2009, 04:55 PM

^^^& Right.

Not many here are saying "No" to Cavil, but he still needs to pass the screen test.

I don't need to see it myself, but the test by WB needs to include a range of emotions, as well as intense physical action.

For both Clark, and Superman, as while Clark should not be a cartoon like the Donner version, his body language, voice, and posture are different than Superman.

COuld he make a great Superman? Maybe, but if he seems monotone durring the anger, rage, and action scenes of the test, then no.

Casting for Superman should not be based only on past work, or having the right look and being a "good" actor.

Maybe he will go in and be perfect. Still needs to test like all the unknown actors, and well known ones alike.

Frodo

11-01-2009, 05:03 PM

Good point. I'd add to it that Cavill May not want the role anyway. He may want to keep his options open to other things and not be tied down by Superman for a decade. Yeah, it's great career boost, but it's hard to escape that role once you put on the cape. I still think the next Supes will be someone we've never heard of. That's been the tradition in terms of casting the role at least from Alyn to Routh.

Timstuff

11-01-2009, 05:47 PM

If he was just playing Charles Brandon from The Tudors with an American accent I'd be satisfied, but I'm sure he could do more than that to give both Superman and Clark Kent identity. The "90% looks" phrase is not saying that acting is not important, but it IS saying that the hardest part of playing Superman is looking like Superman. Also, Superman's actual character is actually not quite as complicated to act for as some people here seem to be suggesting. There is the whole Clark / Superman thing, but like I said, a trained actor like Cavill shouldn't have any problem switching between imposing and meek.

Batman is difficult to play because he must switch between a charming playboy, a tormented self-isolationist, and a menacing predator. Spider-Man is difficult because he switches between being a sad nerd and a smart-mouthed daredevil. With Superman, the Clark Kent and Superman personas themselves aren't that difficult to achieve, but the fact that he has to look like both without wearing a mask is what makes it hard.

Cavill does look like both Clark Kent and Superman, and judging from his previous work both personas should be within is range just as much or more than they were for Brandon Routh. As with any actor he'll bring some of himself to the role, but to dismiss him just because he hasn't done a (new) screen test for the part or because he hasn't already played a superhero-like role seems to dismiss the notion that this thread should even exist in the first place. If Cavill lacks the credentials to play Superman, then who doesn't?

SuperMike335!!

11-01-2009, 07:11 PM

but to dismiss him just because he hasn't done a (new) screen test for the part or because he hasn't already played a superhero-like role seems to dismiss the notion that this thread should even exist in the first place.

Most here are Not "dismissing him". :yay:

Just saying that there does need to be another screen test, and that all actors auditioning for the role test, even if they have tested for a similar part in the past.

I say similar, because what is needed in the reboot will not be the exact criteria as SR had, as the Reboot is intended to be a different kind of Superman film, and likely Superman will not be characterized with the exact same type of personality or behavior.

So the role has to be tested for again, even if he did the test once in the past.

I am not, and I am sure most here are NOT dismissing him. Likely they are choking him up to the short list of people they think should get a screen test.

They may not be nominating him for their #1 pic, and may not be jumping up and down to champion him as the best candidate Superman Actor on earth and requesting to stop the search now either, but that does not mean they are all dismissing him.

I think he should definitely be on the short list, but I am not yet ready to say he is the only one, and no one else should be tested either.

Timstuff

11-01-2009, 10:00 PM

There might be someone better, and if so I'd certainly like to see who. However, of the candidates I've seen Cavill is by far my favorite, and I'll be rooting for him if he does audition. If he gets the part that's great, but if not that's fine too since it hopefully means they found someone better.

NotFadeAway

11-01-2009, 10:27 PM

I've really fallen hard for Bomer as Superman. It's the most convinced I've been about an actor's ability to portray want I want to see in Superman/Clark Kent since David Boreanaz.

Timstuff

11-01-2009, 11:56 PM

Lone

11-02-2009, 04:05 AM

This is incredible! Bomer looks perfect as Superman. :wow:

Indeed. If the photos of him now were available during the Pre-SR casting war days, I'm sure he would've won many posters over.

Oddly enough, his performance in Texas Chainsaw Massacre was what made me go "...holy ****, this guy would've made an awesome Superman.:doh:".

Young Superman

11-02-2009, 04:30 AM

http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/8914/Superman.png
Nuff said.

Timstuff

11-02-2009, 05:23 AM

O RLY?

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1633/lolcat3615c1ee4ee1c3fc5.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/lolcat3615c1ee4ee1c3fc5.jpg/)

:hehe:

Nightwing1977

11-02-2009, 11:40 AM

There is the whole Clark / Superman thing, but like I said, a trained actor like Cavill shouldn't have any problem switching between imposing and meek.

But could he be good enough to pull it off? Even Bale is a good trained actor based on his years of work & he still audited for Batman. I want to see Cavill's screen test as Supes before I give him the thumb up. If he nail it, I'll support him in the role. But right now, he is a big question mark despite being a good actor. For all we know, Supes might not work for him but he would be good as Luthor instead. Anything is possible.

With Superman, the Clark Kent and Superman personas themselves aren't that difficult to achieve, but the fact that he has to look like both without wearing a mask is what makes it hard.

I disagree it's not difficult to achieve both Clark & Supes's personality with how one has to be mild mannered & one a strong, powerful super human. Clark has to be a nerd type that many wouldn't know he is really Superman. Even Lex didn't buy that Clark is really Superman in the comic one time when John Byrne did the book.

As with any actor he'll bring some of himself to the role, but to dismiss him just because he hasn't done a (new) screen test for the part or because he hasn't already played a superhero-like role seems to dismiss the notion that this thread should even exist in the first place.

I'm not dissing him as you think. I'm just trying to not act like he can't do any wrong or he is Supes already when he hasn't play the role yet, good actor or not. What wrong with giving him a screen test anyway? Even Hugh Jackman is a better actor than Cavill will ever be & he still did screen test to play Wolverine in the first X-Men film. And it's work with how brilliant he was. I want to see the same for Cavill before I start treating him like he's the savior of playing Supes.

Nightwing1977

11-02-2009, 11:41 AM

O RLY?

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1633/lolcat3615c1ee4ee1c3fc5.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/lolcat3615c1ee4ee1c3fc5.jpg/)

:hehe:

Ha ha!! At least we agree on something with this pic. :hehe::up:

NotFadeAway

11-02-2009, 11:59 AM

O RLY?

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1633/lolcat3615c1ee4ee1c3fc5.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/lolcat3615c1ee4ee1c3fc5.jpg/)

:hehe:

"Shakes head"

Isn't he just too cool!

NotFadeAway

11-02-2009, 12:08 PM

I'm still skeptical. Frankly, he looked pretty whimpy to me in the Toyota commercial, and I'm not just talking about muscles-- overall, he just doesn't look like he has the frame for a superhero, in addition to being under 6 feet tall (6' 1" would be my bare minimum for Supes). If for some reason he managed to impress the director enough to get cast I'd give him a chance, obviously, but I'd prefer someone with a more heroic stature.

Like I've said, I personally feel like Bomer's build can be worked around. And even if he does look smallish compared to a Reeve or even Routh, I'm ok with that. I don't know if that makes me a bad fanboy, but it's just my personal thought.

I know somewhere Double Down will be smiling about this, but I was disappointed with Henry Cavill in Whatever Works. I had very high hopes for him to impress, and he didn't. I don't know if thats Woody Allen's fault or not, and I'm obviously not saying Cavill should be condemned for Whatever Works. He obviously has flashed talent. I still need to watch season 3 of Tudors, I usually have to get in the mood and then I knock out any entire season of the show in under two weeks.

SuperMike335!!

11-02-2009, 12:40 PM

O RLY?

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1633/lolcat3615c1ee4ee1c3fc5.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/lolcat3615c1ee4ee1c3fc5.jpg/)

:hehe:

So someone invaded his privacy and took a non-flattering picture of him, right after waking up, has not even shaved yet, trying to get his e-mail. Maybe his internet connection was down?

Ok, so he does not stay in great shape year round.

Arnold Schwarzenegger did not stay in contest shape year round.
That is me being fair to Welling. I am not out pimping him as the next Superman.

I would Prefer someone who looks more Masculine for the adult Superman. He was picked to play the teenage Clark for a reason.

That being said, the studio and makeup team does do work to make him look more boyish for the show too.

With a shorter haircut, not too short, but more conservative, and tapered on the sides, he would look less boyish and more manly. Anyhow, he should be allowed to screen test for the role.

Personally, I am not sold on him as Superman either, I don't think he is still that interested in doing it anyway, or ever was for that matter.

That picture really is not fair to the guy however. If I followed anyone around with a camera, until I got the perfect moment to snap off a picture of them looking their worst, standing in an awkward, I could make anyone look like crap.

RachelDawes

11-02-2009, 09:04 PM

Indeed. If the photos of him now were available during the Pre-SR casting war days, I'm sure he would've won many posters over.

Oddly enough, his performance in Texas Chainsaw Massacre was what made me go "...holy ****, this guy would've made an awesome Superman.:doh:".

Lol, what did he do in the movie that convinced you he'd be the perfect Superman?

LL2K2

11-02-2009, 10:16 PM

...

LL2K2

11-02-2009, 10:19 PM

http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/8914/Superman.png
Nuff said.

Superboy. 'Nuff said. :dry:

cronosred

11-02-2009, 11:09 PM

Superboy. 'Nuff said. :dry:

Nope not even Superboy, he's the Blur. :csad::csad::csad:

Lone

11-03-2009, 12:28 AM

Sorry dp.

Lone

11-03-2009, 12:28 AM

Lol, what did he do in the movie that convinced you he'd be the perfect Superman?

He has a heroic die trying, Superman vs Doomsday kinda vibe going on in that movie..:csad:

GreenKToo

11-03-2009, 07:18 AM

Meh. I can't believe they are calling him the ''Blur''......Why not the ''streak'' or ''what was that" or ''WTF?''.
All equally stupid names.

SuperMike335!!

11-03-2009, 08:10 AM

Meh. I can't believe they are calling him the ''Blur''......Why not the ''streak'' or ''what was that" or ''WTF?''.
All equally stupid names.

Well, "streak" is a little to close to "skid mark". :awesome:

elgaz

11-03-2009, 08:52 AM

In fairness to Welling, that photo above was taken on his time off from the show and also looks like it was taken very early in the morning. The guy works out more during filming and I don't think anyone would look great in a pic when it looks like they've just climbed outta bed.

Also, it's been a long time since he looked like a young teen on Smallville .... he looked like Superboy in the first few seasons but is starting to look more his age now.

http://supermanhomepage.com/images/smallville9/S09E04-echo10.jpg

Webhead2006

11-03-2009, 11:26 AM

cronosred

11-03-2009, 12:43 PM

I would rather have someone cast as Superman who actually wants to play Superman. After nine seasons of Smallville I think it's pretty obvious Welling doesn't want to wear the suit.

SuperMike335!!

11-03-2009, 01:38 PM

yea he has a more mature look now adays on the show, yes during the year years when welling was like 25-29yrs old during the highschool years of the show they did make him look a bit younger and boyish.

Cutting his hair a bit shorter to give his head a more squared/rectangular sillouette and making the lips more regular flesh color would easily make him look more Manly/Masculine.

I think the makeup team for the show is making him look more boyish on purpose.

Big puffy haircut with a round sillouette, and I think they are putting red/pink lipstick on him to to make his face look more effeminate/boyish.

Webhead2006

11-03-2009, 01:58 PM

well we know we are probably going to be a long time coming for next film. So who even knows who wants to play the role and who will end up being looked at. There is so many factors in play that we dont know what is going to happen. But in the end hopefully th next casting time wont be a major hurdle to get over.

Showtime

11-03-2009, 10:34 PM

It's not going to be any of these guys if the film comes out 4 or 5 years from now. Cavill, Bomer, Welling, and Routh will be a page in the History of Superman book.

Showtime

11-03-2009, 10:34 PM

It's not going to be any of these guys if the film comes out 4 or 5 years from now. Cavill, Bomer, Welling, and Routh will be a page in the History of Superman book.

I SEE SPIDEY

11-03-2009, 10:45 PM

It's not going to be any of these guys if the film comes out 4 or 5 years from now. Cavill, Bomer, Welling, and Routh will be a page in the History of Superman book.True. I just bring em up because we don't have anything else to chat about.

FilmNerdJamie

11-03-2009, 11:04 PM

It's not going to be any of these guys if the film comes out 4 or 5 years from now. Cavill, Bomer, Welling, and Routh will be a page in the History of Superman book.

"Uh-uh! If I post pictures of the same actor constantly and say he's the best choice, then that means he is and WB would be 'stupid' to disagree with me!?!?!"

I SEE SPIDEY

11-03-2009, 11:10 PM

"Uh-uh! If I post pictures of the same picture constantly and say he's the best choice, then that means he is and WB would be 'stupid' to disagree with me!?!?!"Bad Jamie, bad.:hehe:

Webhead2006

11-04-2009, 11:28 AM

it should be fun to see what choices do come along next casting time if/when that does ever happen. For all we know there could be someone we dont know alot about right now or not even know yet who could be a good contender. But yea superman is the more troublesome one to cast. I hope next go around it wouldnt be to hard.

Young Superman

11-05-2009, 07:32 PM

How about Matt Dallas from Kyle XY as Superman?

Webhead2006

11-05-2009, 07:33 PM

i know alot compared him to superman during the show's run.

11-05-2009, 07:37 PM

I think hes about 5'11 or so I think..

Face wise I don't think he looks that far off, theres a picture of him on google with glasses & if he had a haircut, shave & trimmed his eyebrows abit he might not be a bad choice..

Hes abit too small though I think if he is only 5'11..

Young Superman

11-05-2009, 07:44 PM

So's Mathew Bomer

11-05-2009, 07:48 PM

Yeap

Showtime

11-05-2009, 07:53 PM

How about Matt Dallas from Kyle XY as Superman?

I don't think that is a bad idea. He's on Eastwick right now.

Webhead2006

11-05-2009, 08:05 PM

he is didnt know he was doing that show now?

11-05-2009, 08:09 PM

Some places are saying hes 6ft but heres the picture I seen. I don't think hes that far off, haircut, shave & eyebrow trim would make him look closer to Supes I feel.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5530/mattdallasu.jpg

Matt Dallas

Webhead2006

11-05-2009, 09:03 PM

i did enjoy kyle xy while that show was running. Plus he is on the young side right? So I wouldnt mind if he had a test.
I just found a nice photo of him shaved and wearing glasses that looks clark kentish:
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8404/seemattdallasatnewyorkf.jpg

Gamma Goliath

11-05-2009, 09:21 PM

he looks like a harry potter knock off

Webhead2006

11-05-2009, 09:32 PM

well maybe if his hair was combed nicely he wouldnt be harry potter ish lol.

NotFadeAway

11-05-2009, 11:13 PM

Webhead2006

11-05-2009, 11:27 PM

well for me i am a huge spidey fan as u can tell, read more marvel stuff, as for dc i do try to enjoy their cartoons/live action films. I just really hope once gl happens we can finally start getting at a few others big names for dc. Cause i am all for any character to have their shot in the silver screen. As for cap i cant wait to see how casting goes for that film.

Timstuff

11-06-2009, 03:04 AM

So I've been thinking. With the Superman franchise in limbo for what appears to be quite sometime, we should all ban together and invade the Captain America board. Cap is the closest thing to Superman that there is, and that movie will actually happen in the near future, or atleast faster than a Superman movie. Cap is one of only two Marvel characters I truly care about, along with Punisher. I love most of the characters at the end of the day, but I'm more of a DC guy that gets sick of having the C-Men and Spider-Man shoved down my throat. Strangely enough Cap and Punisher are Marvel's version of Superman and Batman, and no, Daredevil is not marvel's Batman. Atleast in my opinion.....

Who is with me?

Actually, I think Batman is more analogous to Iron Man than Punisher. Punisher is more like an oposite of Batman, since he straight up kills for revenge, wheras Batman refuses to kill because he wants to restore justice and safety.

Here's how I'd break down the Marvel and DC analogues:

Superman = Captain America
Batman = Iron Man
Flash (Wally West) = Spider-Man
Wonder Woman = Thor
Nightwing = Daredevil
Catwoman = Black Cat (easy one, lol)
Deathstroke = Deadpool (another easy one, I know)
Lex Luthor = a bunch of different Marvel guys (Kingpin, Norman and Harry Osborn, Justin Hammer, ect)
Darksied = Apocalypse (OK, yet another easy one)
Killer Croc = The Lizard

It can go on with it for quite a while. It all depends on how much thought you feel like investing in the subject. :awesome:

GreenKToo

11-06-2009, 06:58 AM

isnt there a quicksilver at marvel? he's kinda like the flash isnt he?

SuperMike335!!

11-06-2009, 09:36 AM

Not feeling it looking at Matt Dallas. He looks like Wuss.

He looks like another of the all to common man-boy's in hollywood now.

I'd like the next Superman to look more Masucline.

It is ok for Clark to be a Masculine looking man as well.

It seems the vast majority of suggestions look like wimps. Superman does not have too look that wimpy to blend in as Clark, and if they have to go one way or the other; someone who makes and easy Clark but is hard to make look like Superman, or Someone who is easy to make look like Superman, but more effort needs to be put into making a Clark that could pass for human, I would far rather take the latter.

Here is an article I tend to agree with on many points.

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/film/article3805205.ece

We don't need an ogre, but rather someone on the lines of a Clint Walker or Greg Peck etc... These guys whose faces just looked like they could hold there own in a real fight, and not get bossed around easily.

Even Chris Reeve looked like a guy I would not want to scrap with. Sure he was still a little too skinny in S1 and S2, but still much better than when his skinny butt was cast. By S3 he was very close to what I think Superman ought to be built like.

Regardless of his physique however, Reeve had a face that looked like he could take a punch. He looked rugged and strong. His facial features just said so. That is a Masculine face.

http://www.nirvanaclub.com/news/reeve.jpg

Things that make a face look more masculine is how high the features are set on the head, with Reeve they are relatively high, making his strong jawline more pronounced. Bigger forhead and and lower face = more effeminate, higher face and lower jaw = masculine.

Reeve's eyes are not too big, as a bigger eye opening makes someone look more effeminate, smaller makes them look more masculine. This is why on the animated series STAS, they would make Superman's eyes so small, and hardley ever add color to them.

Reeve did not have brightly colored lips either, and again this makes him look more masculine.

Because of his wide cheekbones, strong jaw, and higher face placement, combine with his neck to overall sillouette of his head giving it a more rectangular look, that makes things look more masculine as well.

That is why the face and head itself also need to transition into a strong neckline. Pencil neck is an easy way to make thinks look boyish.

SuperMike335!!

11-06-2009, 10:05 AM

There are a lot of things that are responsible for making someone look more masculine, or more boyish. Sometimes they are hard to describe, if you don't know specifically what to look for, but most people can just "see it", all together. They may not be able to put their finger on the exact differences, they may notice one or two things, but they just see the over all, and can tell when someone looks boyish, or rugged and manly.

These features also do not tend to improve with age over 24. After that they just age to look older, eventual crows feet, wrinkles and one day sagging skin. The masculine vs. boyish look does not get better with age over 24 in most cases, as after the age of 24 natural testosterone levels start to slowly decline as men age. Mark Hammil never looked more masculine as he got older, neither did most of the "man boys" in Hollwood’s past. Likely there are plenty of Unknown actors who look masculine, and have the Superman look.

After the age of 24, there is only one type of substance that will make anyone look more masculine; Androgenic Anabolic Steroids, such as Testosterone, or its chemically enhanced cousins like Boldenone, Methandrostenolone, Stanozol, Masteron etc….

In most men, testosterone levels are all over the place, some are literally 4x that of others, and still in the "normal" range. Its effects on facial features are so pronounced that when you know what to look for, you could actually arrange pictures of faces, with tested testosterone levels, and put them into a fairly accurate line up of who has the lowest to highest, based on faces alone. That is even for guys who are not using AAS, I mean in natural guys it varies a lot.

Young Superman

11-06-2009, 10:07 AM

Hey SuperMike335!!, do you have any more Clint Walker as Superman manips.

SuperMike335!!

11-06-2009, 10:10 AM

I am actually convinced that Christopher Reeve actually did use Steroids. Yes I know, it’s a heavy accusation, well not really, you see at the time he played Superman, they had not yet become illegal in the USA. That was not until 1990. Many people did not know the potentially harmful side effects while when Reeve was playing Superman.

http://www.chrisreevehomepage.com/images/interview/ScavulloOnMen1977.jpg

It even has effects on the eyes, the eye ball itself does not shrink, but men with higher levels of testosterone do have slightly thicker tissues around the eyes, giving the appearance of smaller eyes. You up the testosterone, or similar chemicals, and they will look smaller. To an extent, even bodybuilders using massive doses don’t get such small eyes holes they cannot see, there is a finite amount of growth that can take place here, past a certain dose no further growth will develop.

Back to the point about how testosterone effects features, you can see a lot of facial feature changes in Christopher Reeve from before he was cast, to S3. Huge difference. That is not just from lifting weights and being a few years older. Come on, he hired David Prowse, a Bodybuilder, to help get him in shape.

David obviously introduced Reeve to Roids. Reeve went from 175 to 215 in less than 60 days, that is gaining muscle far faster than anyone naturally does, no matter how hard they train, and his facial features got more manly too. What exactly was causing this? This was at a time that AAS was perfectly legal, and everyone thought they were as safe as children’s vitamins.

Today AAS are not exactly legal (not that this stops a lot of actors from using it however) but I would prefer the new actor not have to go that route to manly himself up.

Clint Walker for example had a better physique most of his adult life than Reeve had at his very best, and Walker was on TV before anyone knew what steroids were. The thing is Walker likely had a higher testosterone level naturally than Reeve did, and Reeve's only got close to that high while using AAS.

So if you want to find an actor who looks as masculine as Walker or Reeve, then they need to look that manly to start with, at least in the face. They can get into shape without steroids, so long as they don’t need to gain more than 10 pounds and cut up a bit, but they need to have the MAN-face, to start with. Unless you think he ought to look like a SuperBoy, OR break the law actor have to use Androgenic Anabolic Steroids.

Webhead2006

11-06-2009, 10:48 AM

SuperMike335!!

11-06-2009, 11:14 AM

this is the problem with superman casting, there is so many factors that have to come in place if we want to get someone who has that certain look to pull off the character. I really do wonder how wb and who ever is the director next go will try to go with?

I just hope they don't make a hastey decision. They need to get a very big field of unknowns, who meet the general physical dimensions, and then narrow it down on look and acting ability.

They should collect such a large and good field to start with that it gets really hard to decide with the top 5 after being narrowed down.

Not hard to decide as in they all sort of have "it", but rather hard to decide because every one of the top 5 have "it" very good and all of the physical requirements too.

Sam

11-06-2009, 11:52 AM

Actually, I think Batman is more analogous to Iron Man than Punisher. Punisher is more like an oposite of Batman, since he straight up kills for revenge, wheras Batman refuses to kill because he wants to restore justice and safety.

Here's how I'd break down the Marvel and DC analogues:

Superman = Captain America
Batman = Iron Man
Flash (Wally West) = Spider-Man
Wonder Woman = Thor
Nightwing = Daredevil
Catwoman = Black Cat (easy one, lol)
Deathstroke = Deadpool (another easy one, I know)
Lex Luthor = a bunch of different Marvel guys (Kingpin, Norman and Harry Osborn, Justin Hammer, ect)
Darksied = Apocalypse (OK, yet another easy one)
Killer Croc = The Lizard

It can go on with it for quite a while. It all depends on how much thought you feel like investing in the subject. :awesome:

Darkseid = Thanos

Webhead2006

11-06-2009, 12:18 PM

I just hope they don't make a hastey decision. They need to get a very big field of unknowns, who meet the general physical dimensions, and then narrow it down on look and acting ability.

They should collect such a large and good field to start with that it gets really hard to decide with the top 5 after being narrowed down.

Not hard to decide as in they all sort of have "it", but rather hard to decide because every one of the top 5 have "it" very good and all of the physical requirements too.
Yea i hope they do that, find alot of folks with the basic stuff they want in the next superman. Then make a process of elminating folks to they come down to a top 5 or top 10 list and then go on from there.

Wolfman

11-06-2009, 01:42 PM

Very interresting stuff, Supermike. If that's true, Routh was all natural in Superman Returns. Not that there ever was any doubt though.

Webhead2006

11-06-2009, 02:47 PM

well alot of folks back then did it right, and it was before the time we know the bad side effects of the drug and all that. So they probably didnt think it was wrong then.

I SEE SPIDEY

11-06-2009, 10:44 PM

Whocares if he used them? I'm just saying.

Webhead2006

11-06-2009, 11:47 PM

yea it doesnt really matter now since he has been dead for a few yrs, and prior to the whole horse accident he probably stopped using them if he did use them and all that.

Young Superman

11-07-2009, 12:52 PM

Kate Mara for Lana Lang
http://images.askmen.com/galleries/celeb-profiles-actress/kate-mara/pictures/kate-mara-picture-1.jpghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/1/17/Lana_Lang_001.jpg

SuperMike335!!

11-07-2009, 01:04 PM

Whocares if he used them? I'm just saying.

I'm not judging him for it at all. I agree with you, he did not do anything wrong.

As I said, back when he was likely using them, it was thought to be as healthy as children's vitamins.

Likely he was not using abusive doses ether.

My point was mostly that the next actor cannot be so far away from look like Superman was when Reeve was first cast, as there is no way they are going to get that much more masculine and buff in only 60 days, or to the degree Reeve looked by SM3 in any short amount of time.

The extreme changes that Reeve made to his body and face were only legal to do back in his era.

It is very possible to get, and be on a regular basis as big, and even bigger than Reeve got, without using anything illegal. It just is not going to happen in 60 days. It would take a few years. That and the facial changes just won't happen.

The point of that is; the criteria for unknown actors should include looking as "Manly" in the face, and at least as strongly built as Reeve did after his changes, since making those changes in a short time span is no longer legal, and the risks are now known.

cin0

11-07-2009, 02:37 PM

here's my pick for lana

Kristina Anapau
http://www.variety.com/graphics/photos/_muga/anapau_kristen.jpg

Webhead2006

11-07-2009, 03:24 PM

yea hopefully who ever is picked as clark/superman next go will already have a nice built on him, which then if he was selected very early into the casting process and filming not happening for a good 5-7months down the road. I would think would give the guy plently of time to bulk up more with right diet and training.

Young Superman

11-07-2009, 06:06 PM

here's my pick for lana

Kristina Anapau
http://www.variety.com/graphics/photos/_muga/anapau_kristen.jpg
Nice pick.

SuperMike335!!

11-07-2009, 06:10 PM

here's my pick for lana

Kristina Anapau
http://www.variety.com/graphics/photos/_muga/anapau_kristen.jpg

****Naaaahhhh!****

THat was great!

Now I need to go change my undies. :awesome:

Nightwing1977

11-08-2009, 12:37 AM

http://supermanhomepage.com/images/smallville9/S09E04-echo10.jpg

Is Tom Welling trying to beat up Harry Knowles there? :hehe: :hehe:

True. I just bring em up because we don't have anything else to chat about.

Being bored, aren't we? ;)

Bad Jamie, bad.:hehe:

His punishment is no Milkbone for the week & no more chasing cats too. :p :p

Timstuff

11-10-2009, 12:41 PM

I just saw Whatever Works yesterday. Cavill was decent in it, but I wouldn't recommend the it as a movie if you want to see him act, because he really didn't have a lot to do in it. Also, I didn't particularly care for the movie itself. If Transformers 2 was a retarded movie made for people who hunt deer and ride ATVs, then Whatever Works was a retarded movie made for people who eat tofu and ride electric scooters.

FilmNerdJamie

11-10-2009, 01:02 PM

Old Woody hasn't been the same in years.

"That's what she said!"

Timstuff

11-10-2009, 02:24 PM

I don't really follow Allen's movies, but I hope for his sake that WW is not a very good example of his career.

NotFadeAway

11-10-2009, 11:41 PM

My choice for Lana Lang is Daneel Harris, who also happens to be my choice to replace Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane Watson. I'm happy Tobey is coming back and all because he really is the perfect Peter Parker in my mind, but Dunst is just awful, I've never liekd her as MJ. I'm upset that the first Spidey flick skipped over Gwen Stacey and onto MJ, but thats a different subject.

Webhead2006

11-11-2009, 12:16 AM

totally fade i agree dunst was totally miscast for mj.

TheWrathOfGod

11-11-2009, 12:28 AM

Sam Worthington would be a fine Supes. Jim Caviezel should have gotten it in 2006.

Timstuff

11-11-2009, 12:32 AM

IMO Worthington is too short (5' 11"), and I think his work in Terminator Salvation is a bit overrated in proportion to how much praise / recommendation he gets because of it.

craigdbfan

11-11-2009, 12:39 AM

I thought he was 6' 2"?

I SEE SPIDEY

11-11-2009, 12:45 AM

EDIT: I already saw why Jamie went bye-bye for a while.

Bruce Malone

11-11-2009, 12:46 AM

I thought he was 6' 2"?

6'2" lol he's shorter than bale who's 6'

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1/2009/05/natalie-worthington/sam-worthington-natalie-mark-17.jpg

I SEE SPIDEY

11-11-2009, 12:50 AM

If Worthington is 6'2," I'm the tallest woman in the world.

Please come back to me with the Worthington choice when he has proved himself as an actor because he damn sure didn't do anything special in that last mediocre Terminator movie.

TheWrathOfGod

11-11-2009, 01:07 AM

According to IMDB he's 6'2''. Christopher Reeve was 6'4''. Also...WHO CARES HOW TALL HE IS? Worthington has proven himself as an actor. You don't think starring in a Terminator film, James Cameron movie, and Clash of the Titans remake is hitting it big? He's a fine choice, a hell of a lot better than all of the fanboy hype for Tom Welling.

I SEE SPIDEY

11-11-2009, 01:13 AM

TheWrathOfGod

11-11-2009, 01:17 AM

Tom Welling isn't going to be Superman in a bigscreen movie so why bring him up?

And I agree his height isn't the problem but his looks for the character are meh to me and I have yet to see the proof that he is the bestest actor ever like alot of Hyper's claim.

He's not the best actor, but you don't need to be if you're playing Superman. Also I think that a dramatic reinvention of the character is needed if Superman is going to hit the big screen again anytime soon.

I SEE SPIDEY

11-11-2009, 01:22 AM

I agree but I perfer somebody more in the vain of Chris Pine than Worthington.

TheWrathOfGod

11-11-2009, 01:27 AM

I agree but I perfer somebody more in the vain of Chris Pine than Worthington.

Chris Pine now has to carry the burden of being Kirk for the rest of his life. They could use a mask of his face in the next Halloween film if they want.

Young Superman

11-11-2009, 01:35 AM

Owain Yeoman for Superman!
http://www.topnews.in/files/images/Owain-Yeoman1.jpghttp://www.coverbrowser.com/image/superman-books/24-2.jpg

Webhead2006

11-11-2009, 02:00 AM

didnt someone mention him like a month or so ago?

craigdbfan

11-11-2009, 02:05 AM

Yes, and absolutely no to this guy. You might as well give the part to the Pillsbury doughboy then.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f129/PoisonGrace/pillsbury_doughboy.jpg

I SEE SPIDEY

11-11-2009, 02:44 AM

^:lmao:

The worse part of For All Seasons was the character design.

Chris Pine now has to carry the burden of being Kirk for the rest of his life. They could use a mask of his face in the next Halloween film if they want.Eh, if he has hits outside of Trek he might come out okay.

Superman Prime

11-11-2009, 03:42 AM

Timstuff

11-11-2009, 04:29 AM

Yeoman looks like someone with a low IQ.

Anyway, Superman Prime, I actually mentioned Chris Pine as a possible candidate for Lex Luthor. I think he could potentially be quite interesting in a villainous role.

Webhead2006

11-11-2009, 04:41 AM

Yea I doubt pine would ever be superman. I too could possible see him for various villain roles.

NotFadeAway

11-11-2009, 09:58 AM

totally fade i agree dunst was totally miscast for mj.

It's weird with the me and the Spidey films. The things that I liked I REALLY liked, but the things that I didn't like I REALLY didn't like.

Also, remember how I mentioned Captain America a few days ago. I think it's funny that I'm facing the same problem casting that character that I have with wanting Matt Bomer as Superman. I want Ben McKenzie for Cap, but people think he is too short.

Webhead2006

11-11-2009, 03:25 PM

oh totally we fans are such a picky bunch of folks on how we want our heroes/villains to look/act/sound at times. In the end we just have to hope they hire quality actors, and they honnor the character right.

Webhead2006

11-11-2009, 03:25 PM

SuperMike335!!

11-11-2009, 06:13 PM

Owain Yeoman looks very strange to say the least.

Here's a cool pic of Chris Pine holding himself with the self-confidence of Superman:

http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/m/cloverfield_premier_5_170108/chris_pine_1724511.jpg

He's got the right facial features, and while he makes the minimum height I'd like to see Superman with (6'1" to 6'6") 3 extra inches of his height are in his head.

I'm just seeing this when looking at his picture:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tJ0CtJ8MFX0/SFWHJ_Y_rzI/AAAAAAAAAEk/LKLD_NumdmQ/s320/HulkLeader2.gif

Webhead2006

11-11-2009, 09:54 PM

lol

Asr

11-11-2009, 10:00 PM

Not an actor but what do you guys think of Chuck Wicks? (country singer)

http://i33.tinypic.com/2n1arm8.jpg

Webhead2006

11-11-2009, 10:01 PM

Has a good look for superman i think. Though i rather stick to actors then some singer trying to move into acting world. Not all have made the transition well.

Blackman

11-11-2009, 10:01 PM

Not an actor but what do you guys think of Chuck Wicks? (country singer)

http://i33.tinypic.com/2n1arm8.jpg
I mean....it kind of answers itself if he isnt an actor or someone who is trying to be an actor

Eddie Dean

11-12-2009, 02:35 PM

A new casting sheet I made when I was bored...

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6676/supermancast.png

Webhead2006

11-12-2009, 03:05 PM

Not a bad list there eddie dean, i like a bunch of your picks.

NotFadeAway

11-12-2009, 05:58 PM

I'll again throw Enver Gjokaj's name out there. Yes, he has a foreigner look about him, with the slavic nose and all, but Superman is the ultimate immigrant, not Captain America, and the guy was born and raised in the United States. He is only 26, he has shown the tools to be quite the character. Now, IMBD has him listed at 5'9, but on Dollhouse he stood fairly eye to eye with Tahmoh Penikett, who is 6'2-6'3.

bunk

11-12-2009, 06:09 PM

I like Kruger as Lois and Viggo as Lex.

Mr. Earle

11-12-2009, 08:08 PM

I like Kruger for Lois. Brainiac would be under a lot of make up so the voice is the most important thing and Ken's... meh....
I propose Clancy Brown for Lex. He was Luthor in S:TAS and he was great. I just think that in the reboot, with Superman being young, Lex cant be too much older and Clancy is pretty old now.

For Superman i really liked Dean Cain's face. Hamm is too old anyway and to me he looks like a Silver Age character. I thought the reboot would be about a modern Superman.

NotFadeAway

11-12-2009, 11:48 PM

So I have wanted to ask this question for some time, when the hell did Jon Hamm's name start getting thrown around here and there. I either don't remember, obviously, or it started during one of my breaks from the board.

Webhead2006

11-13-2009, 12:40 AM

i think it was when u were gone for a bit fade, myself i dont recall when his name first poped up. .

I SEE SPIDEY

11-13-2009, 12:48 AM

Sometime during Mad Men's second season is when I remember his name being thrown around.

FilmNerdJamie

11-13-2009, 06:04 AM

Brett Harrison would be my pick to replace Tobey Maguire as Webhead.

bunk

11-13-2009, 06:15 AM

Yes, but what about Superman?

FilmNerdJamie

11-13-2009, 06:29 AM

Someone brought him as their Jimmy Olson of choice. You can certainly see that, but I've seen him as a potential Spider-Man as far back as his show The Loop.

GreenKToo

11-13-2009, 08:05 AM

They can put it on my tombstone........''Hugo Weaving for Brainiac''

Mr. Earle

11-13-2009, 08:22 AM

They can put it on my tombstone........''Hugo Weaving for Brainiac''
Hell yeah!!!
And since Darkseid will moslty be CGI and makeup, i propose the man that did his voice in STAS. Michael Ironside. The best villain voice ever imho!
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Eric Roberts for Mongul. I know, i know, i chose from STAS again but he does a great voice and Mongul will be makeup and cgi as well.
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sf2

11-13-2009, 08:30 AM

A new casting sheet I made when I was bored...

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6676/supermancast.png

nice.
too bad superman looks older than his father. lol

Webhead2006

11-13-2009, 01:18 PM

Bret i agree would probably make a great spider-man, i did enjoy him in Cw's reaper.

NotFadeAway

11-13-2009, 06:50 PM

Thank you Webhead and I See Spidey.

I could see Bret Harrison as Spidey.

Jake Cassidy

11-13-2009, 07:42 PM

nice.
too bad superman looks older than his father. lol

His father dies when he's a baby. :huh:

Webhead2006

11-14-2009, 12:22 AM

Yea bret was very funny and charming character on reaper, sad that show didnt get a 3rd season.

Adenjo

11-14-2009, 01:54 AM

nice.
too bad superman looks older than his father. lol
Personally I'd like a younger more dynamic Jor-El

His father dies when he's a baby. :huh:
Exactly.. Jor-El and lara should both be young
sad that show didnt get a 3rd season.
Tell me about it...
"Sam, now Gods getting involved in all this reaper business, ultimately leading up to an epic battle between the forces of good and evil.. Sadly we've been cancelled so no-one will ever see it"...

Young Superman

11-14-2009, 02:38 AM

Jor-El and lara should both be young
Agreed 100%

Webhead2006

11-14-2009, 02:38 AM

totally, though i heard rumors their was a comic series in the works to continue the show in a way. but i dont know if that is happening or got dropped.

Adenjo

11-14-2009, 02:57 AM

totally, though i heard rumors their was a comic series in the works to continue the show in a way. but i dont know if that is happening or got dropped.

It needs something.. Reaper deserved to at least get an ending.

But back to casting..

I've always seen Jor-El as a young dynamic man.. A great scientist but often looked down upon by his peers because of his youth.

Marlon Brando walking up to his fellow scientists and warning of the destruction of Krypton? His fellow scientists would have listened.
But a young (perhaps reckless even?) Jor-El would be ignored.. prompting him to attempt to save his family (ultimately only saving his newborn son).
So i'd go for Jor-El being about the same age as our Superman.

Whoever he may be :)

flickchick85

11-14-2009, 03:37 AM

I definitely agree Jor-El should be much younger than Brando. But not too young. I think in the flashbacks he should still be somewhat older than Clark's current age.

My current dream cast:

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5936/hc518220189492546153843.jpghttp://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4079/hchenrycavillmenshealth.jpg

Henry Cavill - Clark Kent/Superman

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2600/jhgqfeature6v.jpg

Jon Hamm - Jor-El

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1563/markstronggenzspan.jpg

Mark Strong - Lex Luthor

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/3707/600fullmichellemonaghan.jpg

Michelle Monaghan - Lois Lane

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/174/antonyelchinf.jpg

Anton Yelchin - Jimmy Olsen

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4017/ianmcshane.jpg

Ian McShane - Perry White

I'm hoping for Brainiac as the main villain, but I honestly have no clue who should play that role. I think there are many actors that could, and each would have a VERY different take on the character. I like several of the suggestions here. Hugo Weaving seems like an obvious choice but I'd be concerned about "Mr. Smith" deja vu. As far as I'm concerned, they should just go for the best actor they can get, and let whoever it is just do their own thing (imagine what Daniel Day-Lewis would do with it, like he'd ever go for this type of gig, lol).

Mr. Earle

11-14-2009, 06:10 AM

You have to make Jor-El older than Clark. You just have to so that there is some kind of illusion that Clark is his son. You cant show them being of the same age. And then, Jor-El has always been portrayed as a wise man, and wisedom comes with age. How would it look like if a 25 year old Jor-El gave advice to Clark in the Fortress about huge life dilemmas? Not to mention that he was the one that put a lot of criminals including Zod in the Phantom Zone (making it personal for them to seek and destroy his son). So a 25 year old Jor-El couldnt have done that.

Also, let me remind you that since this is going to be a reboot, Clark must be young. You just cant cast John Hamm because you like Madmen. Jesus Christ people get a grip!

And finally, the other members of the council could ignore Jor-El's warnings either because of a conspiracy by Zod, either because Brainiac was involved (see STAS) or because they dont believe that something of such magnitude could ever happen to an advanced civilization like them.

annie.j88

11-14-2009, 07:07 AM

ian mcshane is waaaay too creepy to be perry white

cin0

11-14-2009, 09:56 AM

Nice pick.
thanks

Eddie Dean

11-14-2009, 10:59 AM

What really sold me on Hamm on Superman is his gig on 30 Rock. I knew he could pull of a dramatic role from Mad Men, but in 30 Rock he was absolutely hilarious and I think he could really bring something to Clark that's very different than the Reeve version.

And Nice cast, flickchick. Hamm would make a good Jor-El, if he can't play Superman. :cwink:

Webhead2006

11-14-2009, 11:05 AM

not a bad picks there, i personally agree i would like to see a younger or roughly same age as adult clark kent for jorel next go around.

flickchick85

11-14-2009, 02:08 PM

ian mcshane is waaaay too creepy to be perry white
Aww, that's just good acting! He's not always creepy, just very good at playing villains. I didn't get a creep factor from him in We Are Marshall, and I thought he downright amusing in Woody Allen's Scoop, even though he was playing a "ghost" (a newspaper man's ghost, I might add). Mainly though, I picked him because I love the way he sounds when barking orders at people and his dry wit.

What really sold me on Hamm on Superman is his gig on 30 Rock. I knew he could pull of a dramatic role from Mad Men, but in 30 Rock he was absolutely hilarious and I think he could really bring something to Clark that's very different than the Reeve version.

And Nice cast, flickchick. Hamm would make a good Jor-El, if he can't play Superman. :cwink:
Thanks, and yeah, I love Jon Hamm and think he would make an excellent Superman AND Clark Kent, but Mr. Earle's right - for a reboot they'd just have to go younger. But he's the exact age I think Jor-El should be (assuming whoever plays Superman is in his 20's), so he'd be great for that, imo.

I SEE SPIDEY

11-14-2009, 02:34 PM

Brett Harrison would be my pick to replace Tobey Maguire as Webhead.:up:

NotFadeAway

11-15-2009, 02:12 PM

Webhead2006

11-15-2009, 02:40 PM

i wouldnt mind if any of those guys did g et the chance to test. Though we will just have to see how things go.

GreenKToo

11-15-2009, 02:43 PM

Don't have a clue on who for Superman or Lois....but,

Ian McShane for Morgan Edge

Daniel day-Lewis for Lex

Alec Baldwin for Perry White.

Hugo weaving for Brainiac.

Jim Caviezel for Jor-el.

Catherine zeta-Jones for Lara

Kurt Russell for Jonathan

Genna Davis for Martha

Webhead2006

11-15-2009, 02:44 PM

though would be good picks greenktoo.

GreenKToo

11-15-2009, 03:00 PM

yeah, most will be too old when they get around to making it though, lol.:csad:

Jake Cassidy

11-15-2009, 03:00 PM

I've said it before, these are the guys I test for Superman:

Matt Bomer
Henry Cavill
Enver Gjokaj
Scott Porter
Alexander Skarsgard

As for Jor-El, I'd either go with Jim Caviezel or Paul Johannson depending on who is cast as Superman. Bomer/Gjokaj would get Johansson while Cavill/Skarsgard would get Caviezel, and Porter could go either way.

Actors I'm dead set on are Michael Keaton for Perry White, Chris Marquette for Jimmy, Lena Headey as Lara, Tom Berenger as Jonathan Kent, Connie Britton as Martha Kent, Brent Spiner as Dr. Hamiliton, and Leonard Nimoy as Sul-Van.

Most of that is great, but you can't have Porter and Skarsgard there. They're Flash and Aquaman, respectively. :yay:

Wouldn't Tom Berenger be a little too old opposite Connie Britton?

Michael Keaton as Perry is absolutely brilliant. :woot:

Who do you like for Lex and Lois?

Young Superman

11-15-2009, 03:02 PM

GreenKToo

11-15-2009, 03:07 PM

She is six foot, but if that's a problem, they could easily work around it....not like it will happen anyway.

Jake Cassidy

11-15-2009, 03:18 PM

^ You're choices are pretty good GreenKToo. Now it's my turn:

Superman - Henry Cavill
Lois Lane - Emily Blunt
Lex Luthor - Viggo Mortensen
Brainiac - Jason Isaacs
Metallo - Kiefer Sutherland
Jonathan - Dennis Quaid
Martha - Robin Wright
Perry - Ed Harris
Jor-El - Jim Caviezel
Lara - Maria Bello

Sawyer

11-15-2009, 03:38 PM

Bomer is still my main choice. I dont care how old he gets.

NotFadeAway

11-15-2009, 03:46 PM

Most of that is great, but you can't have Porter and Skarsgard there. They're Flash and Aquaman, respectively. :yay:

Wouldn't Tom Berenger be a little too old opposite Connie Britton?

Michael Keaton as Perry is absolutely brilliant. :woot:

Porter and Skarsgard due fit Flash and Aquaman like a glove, but, I see a little Superman in them as well, and that takes priority, with all due respect. There are plenty of other great Flash choices out there, and Superman > Aquaman. Although, I have been thinking that Skarsgard would make a kick ass Green Arrow.

Berenger would be a little old for Britton. My thought is you could either age Britton up a little bit, or cast my second choice for Jonathan Kent, which is Michael Biehn.

Thank you for the Keaton woot:yay:

NotFadeAway

11-15-2009, 04:02 PM

Most of that is great, but you can't have Porter and Skarsgard there. They're Flash and Aquaman, respectively. :yay:

Wouldn't Tom Berenger be a little too old opposite Connie Britton?

Michael Keaton as Perry is absolutely brilliant. :woot:

Who do you like for Lex and Lois?

With Lex and Lois, it's like Supes, I have several choices that I bounce between.

With Lex, the idea of Michael C. Hall, which at first I rejected, has really started to grow on me and I think it's going to stick. Jason Isaacs is my longtime standby choice, you couldn't go wrong. Jaquin Phoenix if he gets his head back in the game. Michael Emerson would be good, but out of the Lost actors I'd rather have Lilly as Lois. Of course, you can throw out a name like Daniel Day-Lewis, but were not getting him so it's a moot point. So lets say my top three are Hall, Isaacs, and Phoenix.

With Lois, picturing Evangiline Lilly as Lois warms my fanboy heart. But at the moment she is one of those snobby, no studio film picture actresses, and because of that I have a hard time moving forward with Lois casting because I feel Lilly is so perfect. I like Emily Blunt. Lizzy Caplan, another True Blood alum. If you want a hott piece, test Emmanuelle Chriqui. You couldn't go wrong with Kristen Bell. I just don't know, I need some time to find a choice I can get fully behind other than Lilly.

Young Superman

11-15-2009, 04:06 PM

Michael Keaton as Perry is absolutely brilliant. :woot:

Agreed:woot:

Mr. Earle

11-15-2009, 04:52 PM

Casting the role of Superman is like the hardest casting ever!
The actor needs to have so many qualities! First of all he has to be a good actor. Then he has to be very tall (i cant forgive Bale's height, but at least he is not playing Superman), he has to be good looking, he has to look manly and not boyish and he has to have a certain "good guy" and confident voice.
That Bomer guy looks pretty good in the pictures but i dont know if he has any of the qualities i mention above. Oh, and btw, to me Routh looked like a boy and not like the goddamn SuperMAN so i didnt like him.

Of all the people that donned the costume, Dean Cain was the best IMHO. He had the pretty face, he looked like a man and not like a teen movie star, he had the jaw, the voice, and if i remember correctly the build for it. And i liked how he just pulled his hair back as Superman without that stupid hair curl. It looks nice and natural in the comics but in real life its just horrible and unnatural.

Jake Cassidy

11-15-2009, 05:17 PM

Porter and Skarsgard due fit Flash and Aquaman like a glove, but, I see a little Superman in them as well, and that takes priority, with all due respect. There are plenty of other great Flash choices out there, and Superman > Aquaman. Although, I have been thinking that Skarsgard would make a kick ass Green Arrow.

Berenger would be a little old for Britton. My thought is you could either age Britton up a little bit, or cast my second choice for Jonathan Kent, which is Michael Biehn.

Thank you for the Keaton woot:yay:

Just for the record I like Porter as Flash, Skarsgard as Aquaman and Michael Fassbender as Green Arrow.

Berenger is great, but Michael Biehn would be much better.

Keaton is still the best Batman. :woot:

Jake Cassidy

11-15-2009, 05:20 PM

With Lex and Lois, it's like Supes, I have several choices that I bounce between.

With Lex, the idea of Michael C. Hall, which at first I rejected, has really started to grow on me and I think it's going to stick. Jason Isaacs is my longtime standby choice, you couldn't go wrong. Jaquin Phoenix if he gets his head back in the game. Michael Emerson would be good, but out of the Lost actors I'd rather have Lilly as Lois. Of course, you can throw out a name like Daniel Day-Lewis, but were not getting him so it's a moot point. So lets say my top three are Hall, Isaacs, and Phoenix.

With Lois, picturing Evangiline Lilly as Lois warms my fanboy heart. But at the moment she is one of those snobby, no studio film picture actresses, and because of that I have a hard time moving forward with Lois casting because I feel Lilly is so perfect. I like Emily Blunt. Lizzy Caplan, another True Blood alum. If you want a hott piece, test Emmanuelle Chriqui. You couldn't go wrong with Kristen Bell. I just don't know, I need some time to find a choice I can get fully behind other than Lilly.

Daniel Day-Lewis would be perfect as Lex. It's a shame that he'd never do it. Hall and Isaacs would be great, although Isaacs would be the perfect Brainiac. My pick for Lex is Viggo Mortensen.

Lilly and Blunt are my top 2 for Lois. Bell, Caplan and Chriqui would be good, too.

You really like 'True Blood', don't you? :woot:

Jake Cassidy

11-15-2009, 05:36 PM

NotFadeAway, I hope I'm not getting annoying, but who would like as Brainiac, Metallo and Supergirl?

I like Jason Isaacs, Kiefer Sutherland and Amber Heard.

NotFadeAway

11-15-2009, 07:20 PM

Just for the record I like Porter as Flash, Skarsgard as Aquaman and Michael Fassbender as Green Arrow.

Berenger is great, but Michael Biehn would be much better.

Keaton is still the best Batman. :woot:

Question, which Flash do you like Porter for, Barry Allen or Wally West? Porter would be my top choice for an origin film about Barry.

And I would personally flip Skarsgard and Fassbender, although either man could do either role. But Skarsgard would be GA and Fassbender Aquaman, provided Skarsgard didn't become Superman.

You really think Biehn would be better than Berenger, because I really do have a hard time choosing between the two for my top JK choice. Biehn would go alot better with my choice of Britton for Martha.

As much as I love Christian Bale, I do wonder what Keaton could have done with the Begins script. Keaton was great, it was a shame he was in Tim Burton's Batman films. Keaton is an underrated actor in general as far as I'm concerned.

NotFadeAway

11-15-2009, 07:30 PM

Daniel Day-Lewis would be perfect as Lex. It's a shame that he'd never do it. Hall and Isaacs would be great, although Isaacs would be the perfect Brainiac. My pick for Lex is Viggo Mortensen.

Lilly and Blunt are my top 2 for Lois. Bell, Caplan and Chriqui would be good, too.

You really like 'True Blood', don't you? :woot:

Yea, it is a shame about Day-Lewis being a movie snob, not just for Superman, but alot of properties out there. Hell, not only would ha nail Lex, he would be an awesome Jor-El as well. I like your choice of Viggo Mortensen, I don't think of him enough. I did read that he turned down the Ducard/Ra's role that Liam Neeson played in Begins.

Evangiline Lilly is by far and large my top choice. There is no one else I'm 100% sold on, although I like all the choices I listed. I like Blunt alot, but her American accent can be iffy and it seems as if it can take away from her performance, plus she is the oldest looking 25 year old ever. Caplan can come across very hippie dippie. Kristen Bell has already done the whole chick reporter thing. And I think that very beautiful Chriqui could do everything required on the surface, but I don't know how far her acting abilities could allow you to take the character, I haven't seen her in the proper material. I've had the biggest crush on her since 100 Girls, so I'd love to see her character take off because of a role like Lois, I just don't know though.

For me personally, True Blood is the greatest thing since sliced bread:yay:. That and Dexter.

Jake Cassidy

11-15-2009, 07:38 PM

Question, which Flash do you like Porter for, Barry Allen or Wally West? Porter would be my top choice for an origin film about Barry.

And I would personally flip Skarsgard and Fassbender, although either man could do either role. But Skarsgard would be GA and Fassbender Aquaman, provided Skarsgard didn't become Superman.

You really think Biehn would be better than Berenger, because I really do have a hard time choosing between the two for my top JK choice. Biehn would go alot better with my choice of Britton for Martha.

As much as I love Christian Bale, I do wonder what Keaton could have done with the Begins script. Keaton was great, it was a shame he was in Tim Burton's Batman films. Keaton is an underrated actor in general as far as I'm concerned.

Wally.

Biehn is the man. Simple as that.

I actually prefer the Burton movies over the Nolan movies, though I like all of them.

NotFadeAway

11-15-2009, 07:44 PM

NotFadeAway, I hope I'm not getting annoying, but who would like as Brainiac, Metallo and Supergirl?

Trust me, your in no danger of annoying me, I love talking about this stuff.

Alright, I have my own personal idea for Braniac that likely will never see the light of day for numerous reasons. I would go with the TAS storyline that Jor-El created Braniac in it's computer state. Using that storyline, I would have Braniac take on the form of Jor-El as a tribute to it's creator, it's father if you will. So the same actor would play both characters obviously, and I think this would be a great way for Braniac to screw with Superman. So, I suppose Caviezel and Johannson would be my choices for Braniac as well.

Now, as for individual actors, I agree with you that Isaacs would be a great Braniac. Sam Neil would also be a good choice.

As for my Metallo, my top choice is Oleg Taktarov.

I haven't really given much thought to Supergirl. Let me do some brainstorming and I'll get bacy at ya.

Jake Cassidy

11-15-2009, 07:49 PM

Sam Neill is awesome.

Who is Oleg Taktarov? Never heard of him.

Young Superman

11-15-2009, 07:49 PM

I still think Jared Padalecki would make a good Superman.

NotFadeAway

11-15-2009, 07:50 PM

Wally.

Biehn is the man. Simple as that.

I actually prefer the Burton movies over the Nolan movies, though I like all of them.

I deff. think Porter could play a good Wally. However, I have pretty much given up on the idea of a Wally movie, although I would go with Wally over Barry in a heartbeat.

Biehn is awesome, I wish he had more roles in general.

The first Burton Batman was pretty good, I still enjoy it to this day. I didn't care for Batman Returns though. Burton needed to remain handcuffed. I personally Burton would be better off sticking with his own original material.

NotFadeAway

11-15-2009, 07:52 PM

Sam Neill is awesome.

Who is Oleg Taktarov? Never heard of him.

Here you are:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0847727/

I think this man would make an intimidating, imposing, bad ass Metallo, which is the only way to do it in my opinion.

Jake Cassidy

11-15-2009, 07:52 PM

Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman is so ****in' hot that I don't really care that much about the rest of the movie. :woot:

Michael Keaton deserves credit for creating the 'batman voice'. Before him there was only Adam West and Super-Friends.

These probably aren't very popular choices but I'd also like Sienna Miller or Olivia Wilde as Lois.

Jake Cassidy

11-15-2009, 07:55 PM

Here you are:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0847727/

I think this man would make an intimidating, imposing, bad ass Metallo, which is the only way to do it in my opinion.

I remember him. He's the guy who got cut up in Bad Boys II.

I would much prefer Kiefer Sutherland, Karl Urban or Kevin McKidd.

Another Lex suggestion: Damian Lewis.

NotFadeAway

11-15-2009, 07:56 PM

Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman is so ****in' hot that I don't really care that much about the rest of the movie. :woot:

These probably aren't very popular choise but I'd also like Sienna Miller or Olivia Wilde as Lois.

Michelle Pfeiffer was smokin as Catwoman, that movie and Wolf were Pfeiffer at her hottest.

I can see were you are coming from with Wilde as Lois. And while your bringing up Sienna Miller, I want to run something by you. What do you think about giving her Mysteries of Pittsburgh co-star Jon Foster a look as Superman?

Jake Cassidy

11-15-2009, 07:57 PM

I deff. think Porter could play a good Wally. However, I have pretty much given up on the idea of a Wally movie, although I would go with Wally over Barry in a heartbeat.

Biehn is awesome, I wish he had more roles in general.

I agree. Wally is far more interesting than Barry, imo. As for who could play Barry, I'd have to say Ryan Kwanten.

It was great to see Biehn and Jeff Fahey in 'Planet Terror'.

NotFadeAway

11-15-2009, 07:59 PM

I remember him. He's the guy who got cut up in Bad Boys II.

I would much prefer Kiefer Sutherland, Karl Urban or Kevin McKidd.

Another Lex suggestion: Damian Lewis.

I like the Karl Urban choice, and I never would have considered Kevin McKidd until just now.

Jake Cassidy

11-15-2009, 08:00 PM

Michelle Pfeiffer was smokin as Catwoman, that movie and Wolf were Pfeiffer at her hottest.

I can see were you are coming from with Wilde as Lois. And while your bringing up Sienna Miller, I want to run something by you. What do you think about giving her Mysteries of Pittsburgh co-star Jon Foster a look as Superman?

I take it you haven't seen 'The Fabulous Baker Boys'. :yay:

As for Jon Foster. Maybe.

NotFadeAway

11-15-2009, 08:03 PM

I agree. Wally is far more interesting than Barry, imo. As for who could play Barry, I'd have to say Ryan Kwanten.

It was great to see Biehn and Jeff Fahey in 'Planet Terror'.

I'd go with Peter Krause as an older Barry Allen and Joshua Jackson, who is probably too old now, as Wally West.

Biehn and Fahey were great in Planet Terror, and I still laugh about Biehn calling Tom Savini a dumbass after Savini shot him on accident.

Jake Cassidy

11-15-2009, 08:04 PM

^ Yeah, mate. 'Planet Terror' gets a lot of flack, but I love it.

Never thought of Krause as Barry before, but I can see it.

NotFadeAway

11-15-2009, 08:10 PM

I take it you haven't seen 'The Fabulous Baker Boys'. :yay:

As for Jon Foster. Maybe.

I actually have never seen the Fabolous Baker Boys.

Yea, I'm not saying Foster should be considered. I just saw something there, but I'm very very far from endorsing him. Bomer is still my top, with the other four I mentioned being very close behind.

NotFadeAway

11-15-2009, 08:12 PM

^ Yeah, mate. 'Planet Terror' gets a lot of flack, but I love it.

Never thought of Krause as Barry before, but I can see it.

I LOVED Planet Terror, I don't care what anybody says.

Krause has been my Barry choice for some time now. He is obviously too old for an origin flick at this point, but, if you open a flick with an established Barry with Wally taking his place, he is perfect.

Jake Cassidy

11-15-2009, 08:15 PM

Another suggestion for Lois:

Rachel Nichols

Young Superman

11-15-2009, 08:21 PM

I actually prefer the Burton movies over the Nolan movies, though I like all of them.
Me too.

NotFadeAway

11-15-2009, 08:23 PM

Another suggestion for Lois:

Rachel Nichols

Deff. worthy of a screentest.

Another Metallo suggestion: Alexis Denisof.

Jake Cassidy

11-15-2009, 08:29 PM

Deff. worthy of a screentest.

Another Metallo suggestion: Alexis Denisof.

Nice one, mate. :woot:

Another Metallo suggestion: Sean Bean

Another Lois suggestion: Linda Cardellini

NotFadeAway

11-15-2009, 08:42 PM

Nice one, mate. :woot:

Another Metallo suggestion: Sean Bean

Another Lois suggestion: Linda Cardellini

Damn fine suggestions. Sean Bean as Metallo has crossed my mind before but not for some time. Thank you.

If they started filming tomorrow, you could toss Linda's name in the hat. At 33, her time is running out, but still, she would make a very solid Lois Lane.

Jake Cassidy

11-15-2009, 08:47 PM

^ Any thoughts on Supergirl yet?

Jake Cassidy

11-15-2009, 08:53 PM

More suggestions for Lois: Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Minka Kelly, Morena Baccarin

wattabrownsound

11-15-2009, 09:06 PM

i don't know who said it in one of the threads but it was something along the lines of "clark shouldn't be young enough to come off as one of your buddies that you'd stay up 2 in the morning drinking with". i agree. i also think he shouldn't be young enough that he'd fit right in at Rob's party in Cloverfield. If its an established superman i'd like to see an older Clark/Superman.

NotFadeAway

11-15-2009, 09:24 PM

More suggestions for Lois: Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Minka Kelly, Morena Baccarin

Damn, I was forgetting Mary Elizabeth Winstead. I knew I was forgetting someone from my original list I posted for you, and she is it. I think she could play the part rather well, and I would tap MEW like a fountain.

Minka Kelly is banging hot, and Morena Baccarin would be a fine Lois provided she grew her back.

No, I haven't thought of a Supergirl yet. I'm thinking.....maybe Maggie Grace.

Webhead2006

11-15-2009, 10:47 PM

I totally agree and hate that superman seems to be the toughest one to cast for any times a superman film has been tried and all that. Sure there is a select few i wouldnt mind to see as the role right now. But they are not the only ones i would be fine with. I am sure there is tons of known/unknown guys to me that could probably hit it out of the park for clark/supes. But right now its all about how long to next film happens, whats its direction, and what is the age range they are going to cast in and all that.

As for other roles there is so many actors/actress that would be great, but like superman we first need to know what type of direction the characters will be in. Then how old they are looking for them.

Mr. Earle

11-16-2009, 07:03 AM

^ Any thoughts on Supergirl yet?Megan Fox. Its not a difficult role so she could do just fine. But by the time they ll bring in Supergirl Fox will be in her 30ies. But tell me you dont want to see her in spandex.

Lex Luthor

11-16-2009, 07:48 AM

More suggestions for Lois: Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Minka Kelly, Morena Baccarin

I could see Morena Baccarin as Lois. :up:

GreenKToo

11-16-2009, 10:11 AM

Yea, it is a shame about Day-Lewis being a movie snob, not just for Superman, but alot of properties out there. Hell, not only would ha nail Lex, he would be an awesome Jor-El as well. I like your choice of Viggo Mortensen, I don't think of him enough. I did read that he turned down the Ducard/Ra's role that Liam Neeson played in Begins.

Evangiline Lilly is by far and large my top choice. There is no one else I'm 100% sold on, although I like all the choices I listed. I like Blunt alot, but her American accent can be iffy and it seems as if it can take away from her performance, plus she is the oldest looking 25 year old ever. Caplan can come across very hippie dippie. Kristen Bell has already done the whole chick reporter thing. And I think that very beautiful Chriqui could do everything required on the surface, but I don't know how far her acting abilities could allow you to take the character, I haven't seen her in the proper material. I've had the biggest crush on her since 100 Girls, so I'd love to see her character take off because of a role like Lois, I just don't know though.

For me personally, True Blood is the greatest thing since sliced bread:yay:. That and Dexter.
If Day-Lewis wouldnt do it, then i'd go after Depp to play Lex.

Mr. Earle

11-16-2009, 10:22 AM

He is too small and tiny and weak looking. I want a guy who looks and sounds like the STAS Lex.
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GreenKToo

11-16-2009, 08:55 PM

I'd prefer an actor that will put butts in the seats and give a sequel a chance at happening. I'm not dead set on Depp, in fact i'd prefer day-Lewis, but no one can argue Depp wouldn't pull folks in.

SuperMike335!!

11-16-2009, 09:12 PM

I think that if it is a good solid entertaining movie it will put butts in seats for more repeat viewing, which is the most important factor in making money.

I'm not sold on Depp.

But, I would not go so far as to say he should not audition.

He should get a test screening.

I SEE SPIDEY

11-16-2009, 09:29 PM

A studio doesn't care if a bunch of nerds don't know rather Depp can act or play the role-I had to stop typing for a minute to laugh at that ridiculousness I just wrote-all they care about is money. If Depp wanted to be Lex, WB wouldn't turn him down because they aren't stupid.

And I'm quite sure that Depp doesn't do screentests anymore.

Webhead2006

11-16-2009, 10:35 PM

i do like depp myself very talented actor, and gets alot of butts in the seats(females). So i would be down to see him as lex. He really gets into his roles and all that.

NotFadeAway

11-16-2009, 11:38 PM

If Day-Lewis wouldnt do it, then i'd go after Depp to play Lex.

While I don't personally see the version of Lex I want in Depp, I have to agree with my fried I See Spidey in that if Depp wants the role, WB won't turn him away.

I personally feel like Depp is overexposed in general.......

I would like to again point out that whoever plays Lex needs to agree to a multi-picture deal. Thats another reason Day-Lewis cannot be had.

I SEE SPIDEY

11-16-2009, 11:44 PM

While I don't personally see the version of Lex I want in Depp, I have to agree with my fried I See Spidey in that if Depp wants the role, WB won't turn him away.

I personally feel like Depp is overexposed in general.......

I would like to again point out that whoever plays Lex needs to agree to a multi-picture deal. Thats another reason Day-Lewis cannot be had.Overexposed or not I'd be excited if he got the role because he is a great actor to me. He damn sure would be a better fit than Spacey was IMHO.

But you know everybody is intitled for their opinions as long as they opinion doesn't suggest that Johnny Depp is an up and coming actor who screentests for movies.:o

That all being blabbered I seriously doubt that JD is going to be in the next Superman movie but anything is possible I guess.

NotFadeAway

11-17-2009, 12:20 AM

Overexposed or not I'd be excited if he got the role because he is a great actor to me. He damn sure would be a better fit than Spacey was IMHO.

But you know everybody is intitled for their opinions as long as they opinion doesn't suggest that Johnny Depp is an up and coming actor who screentests for movies.:o

That all being blabbered I seriously doubt that JD is going to be in the next Superman movie but anything is possible I guess.

Don't worry, I laughed at the notion of Depp auditioning as well.

I loved Johnny Depp pre-POTC, and I think he is an amazing actor, one of the best. I he just got so commercial after POTC, and I naturally rebel against actors that become extremely commercial and get 10-13 yeard old girls to go figuratively go "Oh Muah Gawd, he is soooooo hott I wanna marry him". Nothing personal against Depp, he is a wonderful actor.

I SEE SPIDEY

11-17-2009, 12:57 AM

Don't worry, I laughed at the notion of Depp auditioning as well.

I loved Johnny Depp pre-POTC, and I think he is an amazing actor, one of the best. I he just got so commercial after POTC, and I naturally rebel against actors that become extremely commercial and get 10-13 yeard old girls to go figuratively go "Oh Muah Gawd, he is soooooo hott I wanna marry him". Nothing personal against Depp, he is a wonderful actor.I have no problem with him being popular because he seems like a nice fellow and he can act. Ofcourse no matter how talented actors and actresses can be reported on too much.

I don't really see why you would have a problem with 10 to 13 year old girls thinking that he's hot but too each his/her own. I just don't rebel like that but I hear ya. I mostly perfer to pick on overexposed untalent folk, like Megan Fox for instance.

Jake Cassidy

11-17-2009, 05:03 AM

Depp was gonna be either Lex or Jor-El in McG's movie wasn't he? Or was he just who McG wanted?

Actually, Depp as Lex is entirely possible. He is a huge comic geek. I'm pretty sure that he's a big Superman fan.

Webhead2006

11-17-2009, 12:53 PM

i dont think he was ever officially signed on, though i dont know myself. I do remember hearing his name during the McG days.

GreenKToo

11-17-2009, 02:08 PM

I remember that. If memory serves it was rumored he was going to be Jor-el.

Webhead2006

11-17-2009, 09:12 PM

Yea i think that is what i remembered, i think he could have made a great jorel.

NotFadeAway

11-17-2009, 11:58 PM

I have no problem with him being popular because he seems like a nice fellow and he can act. Ofcourse no matter how talented actors and actresses can be reported on too much.

I don't really see why you would have a problem with 10 to 13 year old girls thinking that he's hot but too each his/her own. I just don't rebel like that but I hear ya. I mostly perfer to pick on overexposed untalent folk, like Megan Fox for instance.

It's because I'm just wierd like that. Plus, my sister was one of those "Oh Muah Gawd, Johnny Depp" girls after POTC. That contributes.....

Don't worry, I don't like Megan Fox either. She has no true talent and she has a trashy vibe about her. Trashy hott, yes:oldrazz:, but still trashy.

Webhead2006

11-18-2009, 01:21 AM

totally i dont like megan fox either, she she is a hot looking lady and all that. But i rather have someone with more talent and good looks then just getting good looks and no talent.

Jake Cassidy

11-18-2009, 02:38 AM

It doesn't matter which forum or what topic it is, Megan Fox always gets brought up. Strange isn't it?

I love her. I don't care what anybody thinks. :woot:

GreenKToo

11-18-2009, 07:13 AM

She has some pretty a$$......eh.......eyes, yeah thats it, eyes...heh heh.

FilmNerdJamie

11-18-2009, 08:42 AM

Her 15 minutes are just about up...

Webhead2006

11-18-2009, 02:10 PM

probably so jaime.

Blackman

11-18-2009, 04:25 PM

wait until TF3...then after that her 15 minutes will be up

Jake Cassidy

11-18-2009, 06:11 PM

Who knows? In 5 years time she could be the biggest female movie star in the world.

OK, probably not, but stanger things have happened. :woot:

FilmNerdJamie

11-18-2009, 06:22 PM

Fox only burned bridges by biting the hand that fed her (i.e. Michael Bay). Needless to say, that mentality comes back to haunt to people.

Jake Cassidy

11-18-2009, 06:40 PM

Can we please get back to Superman? That's what this thread is for, right?

Webhead2006

11-19-2009, 12:22 AM

So superman, lets see...... Hmmmm i cant think of any new names to bring up lol.

Jake Cassidy

11-19-2009, 02:31 AM

Me neither. I think we've gone through them all.

kalelkilla

11-19-2009, 11:09 AM

Josh Holloway for Superman.

Webhead2006

11-19-2009, 01:40 PM

yea to me there is lot of guys out there known that could probably do the role well plus guys whos names i cant recall at this time. Same with unknowns/semi known there is probably someone out there with good skills that we might not know of right now that could be the ideal guy.

Jake Cassidy

11-19-2009, 04:57 PM

NotFadeAway, this is for you. I'm curious to see what you think.

Alexander Skarsgard:

We've both brought him up as a potentianl Superman or Aquaman.

But what about Lex? A little unconventional, I know, but he could nail it, imo.

Eddie Dean

11-19-2009, 04:59 PM

I can see him making a good Metallo.

MAN O STEEL

11-19-2009, 06:23 PM

http://www.christopherreeve.org/atf/cf/%7B3D83418F-B967-4C18-8ADA-ADC2E5355071%7D/Will-Reeve-IMG_1796.jpg

Will Reeve, Chris's son. Given a reboot may still be 4 or so yrs away from production he'd be a good age & he looks alot like his dad now.

Steve

Blackman

11-19-2009, 06:41 PM

but can he act

11-19-2009, 07:08 PM

Would people not find it kinda creepy if Christopher Reeve's son ended up playing Superman..?

+ If we are going for a Reeve-a-like again I'd rather stick with Brandon Routh.

Fresh Prince

11-19-2009, 09:24 PM

Why not the guy from Never Back Down...Sean Faris....He has the looks and acting skills to pull off Superman.

Webhead2006

11-19-2009, 10:04 PM

Hmmm i dont think i seen much of that guy myself, the name is familar to me though.

Reeve's son yea he does look remarkible like his dad. Though i said it myself, as much as i do love reeve's look. I dont want the next film to be stuck doing that look again and again and again. It would be nice for the next superman to be able to define the look for his superman and not have it being another identital to reeve's superman.

SuperMike335!!

11-20-2009, 08:52 AM

I think very highly of Reeve as Superman, but his look is not the only look that works.

I would much rather that "looking like Reeve" is not part of the criteria. Its ok if the person does, but it should not be specifically what WB looks for.

Square Jaw, mascline face, tall, strong looking build, with a voice that is deep but not menacing is what is needed.

The problem with using Reeve to cast off of, is the copy of a copy scenario.

You may get someone who looks 90% like Reeve, but the 10% where they differ, they are 10% further away from the "Superman" look.

Rather if they cast for Superman, you get a guy who looks like Superman, even if a little less reseblance to Reeve.

Webhead2006

11-20-2009, 12:17 PM

Totally i dont want to get into the whole copy/clone/imitating reeve deal for the next guy. He who ever he will be should be able to make the character and look all his own. We just need to have the basic criteria elements and then the rest can be different.

Blackman

11-20-2009, 06:37 PM

Webhead2006

11-20-2009, 06:38 PM

very good casting list there. I could see a good portion of them working great.

SuperMike335!!

11-20-2009, 08:48 PM

I never realized how tedious making a casting sheet is.

ANy ways heres my Superman Reboot trilogy casting sheet. Not every character on the sheet will appear in ever movie

http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/Fannboi/Supes/Untitled-2copy.jpg

I like it all, with just 1 exception; that have Michael Ironside do the voice for Darkseid. Since Darksied is Hulk sized, likely needs a voice actor. Ironsides did his voice in STAS. Ironside being Darkseid is like Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime. "They is just like Peas and Carrots. "

Eddie Dean

11-20-2009, 09:00 PM

Not bad Blackman, although I would prefer Ray Winstone for Turpin.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1882/raywinstonethepropositi.jpg

Jake Cassidy

11-20-2009, 09:59 PM

Great list, Blackman. I prefer Cavill over Hammer and MEW over Peregrym, but it still works.

I agree with Supermike about Michael Ironside as Darkseid.

Webhead2006

11-20-2009, 10:52 PM

that would be a cool thing to have for darkseid.

louiebling$

11-21-2009, 01:42 AM

Mr. Earle

11-21-2009, 05:13 AM

Actually, Hammer seems like a nice choice for Supes. The only gripe i have is that he looks like 20 years old. For the first film, that would be OK, but at some point, Superman has to be a super MAN.
All in all, great choices Blackman!
I like it all, with just 1 exception; that have Michael Ironside do the voice for Darkseid. Since Darksied is Hulk sized, likely needs a voice actor. Ironsides did his voice in STAS. Ironside being Darkseid is like Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime. "They is just like Peas and Carrots. "I agree with this.

Also, Eric Roberts for Mongul. He voiced him in STAS.

sithgoblin

11-21-2009, 05:25 AM

Cavill is too old to play Superman in his first years.

Are you... serious?

Mr. Earle

11-21-2009, 05:48 AM

Are you... serious?
I mistaked Cavill with Caviesel and i thought you guys wanted the latter as Superman. Haha, my bad.

GreenKToo

11-21-2009, 07:13 AM

I like it.
If it were mine, i'd have Alec Baldwin as Perry, day-Lewis or Depp as Lex, and Weaving as Brainiac.
I like Russell as Jonathan. I suggested him the other day.
At this point, I don't have a fav for Superman.

GoblinWhirlwind

11-21-2009, 08:03 AM

How about a good suggestion? Eddie Cibrian... tall, muscular, great look.

http://thumbnails24.imagebam.com/5699/1a446e56980720.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/1a446e56980720)

Webhead2006

11-21-2009, 01:31 PM

he is from csi maimi right?

Young Superman

11-21-2009, 02:54 PM

Clark Kent/Superman-Jared Padalecki
http://i26.tinypic.com/2qi8ahd.jpg

Great pick for Soperman Lobo.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

Young Superman

11-21-2009, 02:59 PM

Here's a manip of Jared Padalecki as Superman NOT MINE!
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs50/i/2009/269/c/a/JUSTICE_LEAGUE_MOVIE_HEROES_by_Derrick9592.jpg

Timstuff

11-21-2009, 03:43 PM

IMO Padelecki is too boyish looking. Superman doesn't have to be 100% stone-faced, but he does have to have at least fairly strong looking facial features.

How about a good suggestion? Eddie Cibrian... tall, muscular, great look.

http://thumbnails24.imagebam.com/5699/1a446e56980720.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/1a446e56980720)

Someone suggested him a while back, but many people complained that he is too stiff on CSI, and that he might not be able to carry a movie.

SuperMike335!!

11-21-2009, 03:49 PM

IMO Padelecki is too boyish looking. Superman doesn't have to be 100% stone-faced, but he does have to have at least fairly strong looking facial features.

Someone suggested him a while back, but many people complained that he is too stiff on CSI, and that he might not be able to carry a movie.

Well, he is 36, but if say the movies were being filmed back to back with effects to add later, he may work.

He is tall enough, and likely could get into the right shape.

I'm not sold on him by any account yet, but he may as well get a screen test.

I'm a firm believer in having as many people who "may work" test for the role.

GoblinWhirlwind

11-21-2009, 05:02 PM

Jon Hamm is the one I really want, but Cavill and Cibrian right behind him. Anyone else is lackluster like "Really??" to me.

Mr. Earle

11-21-2009, 05:15 PM

Jon Hamm could only be Superman in a Kingdom Come movie, not a reboot that starts from the beginning.

Blackman

11-21-2009, 05:48 PM

Not bad Blackman, although I would prefer Ray Winstone for Turpin.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1882/raywinstonethepropositi.jpg
I want him as Kingpin in a Daredevil movie but I wouldnt mind him as Turpin

I like it all, with just 1 exception; that have Michael Ironside do the voice for Darkseid. Since Darksied is Hulk sized, likely needs a voice actor. Ironsides did his voice in STAS. Ironside being Darkseid is like Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime. "They is just like Peas and Carrots. "
I do like Ironside but hes nowhere near Cullen's Optimus. So to me he can be replaced