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paulogonza
02-23-2010, 10:14 AM
today is teh official announcement? because this guys like kasinsky is very ridicoulous like captain, i hope did not him.

Compi716
02-23-2010, 10:35 AM
The official announcement will be "this week." Nobody knows for sure what day (though I hope it's today!).

Lobo
02-23-2010, 11:21 AM
I'm guessing it gets out this afternoon either via trade or scooped by LR IESB etc

Punisher_MAX
02-23-2010, 11:35 AM
i really hope its either Hedlund, Ackles or McPartlin, they all look like they can pull of CA.

Docker2.0
02-23-2010, 11:40 AM
I'm with you there brother! :up:

Dr. Sid Jawtug
02-23-2010, 11:49 AM
i really hope its either Hedlund, Ackles or McPartlin, they all look like they can pull of CA.

Ackles needs to keep his ass on the CW. I don't need any of these subpar actors involved in this movie.

Punisher_MAX
02-23-2010, 11:56 AM
from watching him on Supernatural, he isnt a bad actor, i happen to like his character to be quite honest. If the script is good and the Director knows how to bring out the best in him I dont see why he shouldn't get the part.

Docker2.0
02-23-2010, 11:59 AM
Why did you even reply to that dude? He's obviously someone who uses another name but just created the new name to start up a dispute. Noone with 7 posts will make a statement like that unless they were a)already banned, b) doesn't use deodorant c) or as stated earlier, created the account for attention.

Punisher_MAX
02-23-2010, 12:00 PM
well i just felt i needed to speak out on why I like Ackles since everyone has stated their reasons in the last 171 pages...i didnt wanna be left out :D

Docker2.0
02-23-2010, 12:03 PM
Look at my sig! But even I know what he was doing.......but I put him in the category of B. He just types that way for some reason. :o

Punisher_MAX
02-23-2010, 12:07 PM
btw i've been reading that the guy cast hails from NBC...isnt the show McPartlin is on aired on NBC?

OB12
02-23-2010, 12:09 PM
The good thing about Ackles is that he is unknown in name, but I think his face has been out there enough that people have seen him and are familiar with him. I also believe that he is a good enough actor, that when surrounded by more veteran talent, he will deliver a good performance.

Punisher_MAX
02-23-2010, 12:12 PM
yeah Chuck is on NBC...so its probably McPartlin

FlawlessVictory
02-23-2010, 12:15 PM
On E! last night, Ryan Seacrest (I think it was him) talked to Robert Buckley about whether the Captain America story was true or false and he said that his name is in the hat for the role and he hopes to get it.

I can't find anything on E!'s website, (www.eonline.com (http://www.eonline.com)) but it was on the news last night.

Interesting, thanks for the info. So maybe a decision has not been made yet? If a decision had been made, wouldn't he be notified since he is a serious candidate?

Docker2.0
02-23-2010, 12:16 PM
Is it me or is everyone treating this Cap role like it's gold? I remember guys who refused to play Superman because of the curse of the cape but with Cap it's different. You hear from guys everywhere applying for the role. Maybe it was Ledger's performance as the Joker that made comic book movies serious again, I don't know but you are hearing the Cap role mentioned it seems by everyone and we as fans are waiting like foxes in the barnyard to see who got the role!

FlawlessVictory
02-23-2010, 12:19 PM
^Well, it's not big named actors vying for this role. Its actors that know if they land this role, it can really catapult their career.

OB12
02-23-2010, 12:20 PM
I didn't realize that Buckley was in such great shape. I mean he really has the physique that Cap should have. I have watched him on One Tree Hill but never really thought much of his look as it applies to Cap. Lighten his hair color and he would have a great look. His acting is ok, doesn't suck but doesn't really stand out either.

Chewy
02-23-2010, 12:36 PM
Interesting, thanks for the info. So maybe a decision has not been made yet? If a decision had been made, wouldn't he be notified since he is a serious candidate?
Not necessarily.

Dr. Sid Jawtug
02-23-2010, 12:48 PM
Why did you even reply to that dude? He's obviously someone who uses another name but just created the new name to start up a dispute. Noone with 7 posts will make a statement like that unless they were a)already banned, b) doesn't use deodorant c) or as stated earlier, created the account for attention.

Just because you think Ackles is pretty, doesn't mean he should get the role. If you are on the CW, I'm sorry but your acting ability should be immediately questioned. I am guessing it will be Pine. I just think he is the only one left that can hold the screen with RDJ. Chill on the insults, I'm new here. You reply to my comment as if you are Jensen. Chill! :fhm:

flickchick85
02-23-2010, 12:51 PM
Interesting, thanks for the info. So maybe a decision has not been made yet? If a decision had been made, wouldn't he be notified since he is a serious candidate?
Frankly, with a bombshell like this, I think they would notify as few people as possible if they wanted to keep a lid on things, so I doubt they would tell the ones who didn't get it. They'll find out with the rest of the world. Plus, we don't know if he was actually a serious candidate or not.

yeah Chuck is on NBC...so its probably McPartlin
Except the same source who said the guy hails from NBC also said it was not McPartlin. In fact, the NBC thing came in his response to McPartlin - something to the effect of, "nope, it's not McPartlin, but like him the guy does hail from NBC."

FlawlessVictory
02-23-2010, 01:00 PM
Frankly, with a bombshell like this, I think they would notify as few people as possible if they wanted to keep a lid on things, so I doubt they would tell the ones who didn't get it.

They want to notify as few people as possible yet some crew guy happens to know who has been cast and in turn told Twitter guy. Go figure. :rolleyes:

Rage
02-23-2010, 01:09 PM
Just because you think Ackles is pretty, doesn't mean he should get the role. If you are on the CW, I'm sorry but your acting ability should be immediately questioned. I am guessing it will be Pine. I just think he is the only one left that can hold the screen with RDJ. Chill on the insults, I'm new here. You reply to my comment as if you are Jensen. Chill! :fhm:

While I wouldn't be opposed to Pine... where does everyone think this dude got his acting chops? He's been in like a couple movies that have made it into the theatres... Smoking Aces, Star Trek and some Lindsey Lohan movie? How does that qualify him to hold the screen with RDJ?? I don't get it. He was a NOBODY before Star Trek and now he's the second coming of De Niro??

The guy was on a couple tv shows like ER and CSI Miami before getting a couple roles in movies like Just my luck and Princess Diaries 2... how is that any more/less impressive than Ackles who did some TV work (Dawson's Creek/Dark Angel/Smallville) before getting into features like My Bloody Valentine?

The ONLY thing that Pine has on him right now is Star Trek launching his mediocre career...

flickchick85
02-23-2010, 01:09 PM
Yep, that's generally how these things happen. They officially don't "notify" anyone, but someone's gonna talk.

louiebling$
02-23-2010, 01:10 PM
My GF said she was watching E News Last night and they reported that 2maro(which would be today) they were going to reveala blonde actor was cast in a superhero role... I asked her and showed her pics and she thinks it was either Robert Buckley or Ryan McPartlin she wasn't sure.

flickchick85
02-23-2010, 01:16 PM
My GF said she was watching E News Last night and they reported that 2maro(which would be today) they were going to reveala blonde actor was cast in a superhero role... I asked her and showed her pics and she thinks it was either Robert Buckley or Ryan McPartlin she was sure.
As already posted, Buckley was on E! News last night (I watched it), and he used to work at E!. They didn't say anything about "casting news" for today, they just said last night that they were hearing "rumblings" about Buckley being Cap (the same rumblings we've heard) and asked him if we were gonna see him as a superhero soon. He just said he's definitely trying to throw his hat into that ring. I don't think there's anything more to E's story than that. But I guess we'll see tonight.

Dr. Sid Jawtug
02-23-2010, 01:25 PM
While I wouldn't be opposed to Pine... where does everyone think this dude got his acting chops? He's been in like a couple movies that have made it into the theatres... Smoking Aces, Star Trek and some Lindsey Lohan movie? How does that qualify him to hold the screen with RDJ?? I don't get it. He was a NOBODY before Star Trek and now he's the second coming of De Niro??

The guy was on a couple tv shows like ER and CSI Miami before getting a couple roles in movies like Just my luck and Princess Diaries 2... how is that any more/less impressive than Ackles who did some TV work (Dawson's Creek/Dark Angel/Smallville) before getting into features like My Bloody Valentine?

The ONLY thing that Pine has on him right now is Star Trek launching his mediocre career...

While some of your points are valid. In no way do I think Pine is upper echelon like RDJ. I just think Pine as been proven capable of acting in a leadership role in a blockbuster movie. Where as if you hire Ackles, it is way more of a risk. One thing is for sure they will probably hire someone everyone in this board will hate. :fhm:

OB12
02-23-2010, 01:31 PM
Well, Pine was a risk for Star Trek before he was actually cast. Pine would be such an uninspired choice IMO. Let someone else have a breakout opportunity.

flickchick85
02-23-2010, 01:31 PM
While I wouldn't be opposed to Pine... where does everyone think this dude got his acting chops? He's been in like a couple movies that have made it into the theatres... Smoking Aces, Star Trek and some Lindsey Lohan movie? How does that qualify him to hold the screen with RDJ?? I don't get it. He was a NOBODY before Star Trek and now he's the second coming of De Niro??

The guy was on a couple tv shows like ER and CSI Miami before getting a couple roles in movies like Just my luck and Princess Diaries 2... how is that any more/less impressive than Ackles who did some TV work (Dawson's Creek/Dark Angel/Smallville) before getting into features like My Bloody Valentine?

The ONLY thing that Pine has on him right now is Star Trek launching his mediocre career...
It's not about roles, it's about performances. Pine was just plain awesome in Smokin' Aces. And he was very good in Bottle Shock as well. And he was perfect in Star Trek, in which he was basically carrying the film. The guy just has natural talent, charisma, and screen presence, unlike Ackles, imo. I've seen plenty of Supernatural, and I've never been particularly impressed with anything Ackles has done. He plays the smart-a** well, but that's about it, imo.

And come on, no one's calling Pine the second coming of DeNiro. We're just saying he clearly has what it takes to go toe-to-toe with RDJ in a summer superhero blockbuster and NOT be acted off the screen. (And please don't confuse that with, "he's AS GOOD an actor as RDJ" - not the same thing.) With Jensen Ackles, that's a little harder to picture for some of us. Pine's not in the same league as RDJ or DeNiro, but I'd say he's easily in a league above Ackles.

In fact, if we're talking former soap/current CW actors, I think Justin Hartley is on about equal ground as Ackles, and he has a better look and voice for Cap, imo. Just sayin. :cwink:

OB12
02-23-2010, 01:35 PM
Well, Pine was a risk for Star Trek before he was actually cast. Pine would be such an uninspired choice IMO. Let someone else have a breakout opportunity.

louiebling$
02-23-2010, 01:37 PM
As already posted, Buckley was on E! News last night (I watched it), and he used to work at E!. They didn't say anything about "casting news" for today, they just said last night that they were hearing "rumblings" about Buckley being Cap (the same rumblings we've heard) and asked him if we were gonna see him as a superhero soon. He just said he's definitely trying to throw his hat into that ring. I don't think there's anything more to E's story than that. But I guess we'll see tonight.
I I missed your post... I'm not sure I was looking for the video but I couldn't find it but we will see tonight.

louiebling$
02-23-2010, 01:37 PM
Stupid double post

flickchick85
02-23-2010, 01:54 PM
I I missed your post... I'm not sure I was looking for the video but I couldn't find it but we will see tonight.
No worries, it wasn't even my post - I just saw that someone else had mentioned it earlier. Anyway, yes, I'll definitely be watching E! News tonight, just in case.

louiebling$
02-23-2010, 02:08 PM
No worries, it wasn't even my post - I just saw that someone else had mentioned it earlier. Anyway, yes, I'll definitely be watching E! News tonight, just in case.
Hell the Trades might report the casting today before E News.

topdog1
02-23-2010, 02:18 PM
What about all those Robert Buckley is gay rumors? To quote Jerry Seinfeld, "not that there's anything wrong with that." But won't that absolutely kill this movie if it turns out to be true?

flickchick85
02-23-2010, 02:23 PM
Hell the Trades might report the casting today before E News.
Indeed, there are about a million sources more likely to break the news than E, lol. The only reason they might break it is if it's Buckley (because as I said, he's a former employee of theirs), so I really doubt and hope that's not the case.

But anyway, as I said, I was watching last night too, and I didn't see/hear anything about any "casting news tomorrow." So I'm not expecting anything today.

Son of Coul
02-23-2010, 02:42 PM
What about all those Robert Buckley is gay rumors? To quote Jerry Seinfeld, "not that there's anything wrong with that." But won't that absolutely kill this movie if it turns out to be true?
nope

Dr. Sid Jawtug
02-23-2010, 03:28 PM
The reason, among many, why Robert Buckley would be a bad choice as Cap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0nVyWaSxRQ&feature=fvw

Webhead2006
02-23-2010, 03:29 PM
Well i said it before with the marvel studios films they have so far picked solid casts. So i am sure the cap pick will turn out good, and with the right script/director could take who ever it is and turn out to get a killer cap with them. Plus who ever is playing the supporting roles could help out the actor. So cant wait to the news breaks on who it is.

Triad
02-23-2010, 03:41 PM
I'VE GOT IT! I KNOW WHO CAP WILL BE!

He "hails from NBC", has light-colored hair so a die-job will look fairly realistic
and his schedule is clear for the near future....



Conan O'Brien!

(J/K!)

blinkuldhc
02-23-2010, 03:55 PM
I have to say, it seems like they're looking for d-bags to play Cap.

SpiderByte
02-23-2010, 04:00 PM
I'VE GOT IT! I KNOW WHO CAP WILL BE!

He "hails from NBC", has light-colored hair so a die-job will look fairly realistic
and his schedule is clear for the near future....



Conan O'Brien!

(J/K!)

I'll meet your Conan O'Brien...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2-7AdSkZA7I/Riw4A-7Id4I/AAAAAAAADOY/ei2ucW7hrFI/s400/Colbert.jpg

and raise you a Stephen Colbert.

Project862006
02-23-2010, 04:28 PM
I have to say, it seems like they're looking for d-bags to play Cap.


i hate it when posters say this what makes the people suggested look like d bags?

afrayedknot
02-23-2010, 04:38 PM
Would anyone be surprised or disappointed if they cast against type?

WillardNation
02-23-2010, 04:43 PM
Like how far against?

Majmun
02-23-2010, 04:44 PM
What are they trying to do to us by delaying this for so long? I'm going to be so pissed if they give us someone who the consensus agrees would suck as CA after we've waited so long.

flickchick85
02-23-2010, 04:44 PM
Would anyone be surprised or disappointed if they cast against type?
I think there are very few choices that could actually surprise me at this point. And whoever they choose, no matter how odd I think the choice is, I'm determined to give them the benefit of the doubt until I'm given reason to do otherwise. So I'm gonna try to hold off on being disappointed, no matter the choice.

craigdbfan
02-23-2010, 04:54 PM
I think there are very few choices that could actually surprise me at this point. And whoever they choose, no matter how odd I think the choice is, I'm determined to give them the benefit of the doubt until I'm given reason to do otherwise. So I'm gonna try to hold off on being disappointed, no matter the choice.

Even Will Smith?

:p j/k

afrayedknot
02-23-2010, 04:55 PM
Like how far against?

Well, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of going against the conventional square-jawed, stereotypical jock-type being cast as Cap. I think it would be a good idea to cast someone who is not typically cast as a hero or a jock.

I SEE SPIDEY
02-23-2010, 05:02 PM
I can't wait till this role is cast so the Pine and Ackles bashers can stop bashing the two IMHO talented actors.

flickchick85
02-23-2010, 05:06 PM
Even Will Smith?

:p j/k
Damn you for testing my principles. :oldrazz:

Spidey-Quad
02-23-2010, 05:07 PM
Sorry, I do not agree. For Cap you do need that.

PumpkinBombxXx
02-23-2010, 05:17 PM
I would like to point out that RDJ was going nowhere when he signed on for Iron Man. So Pine could be a great choice for cap. I hate how every one is like ewww he cant hold up next to RDJ

Blackman
02-23-2010, 05:40 PM
I can't wait till this role is cast so the Pine and Ackles bashers can stop bashing the two IMHO talented actors.

co sign

Blackman
02-23-2010, 05:45 PM
I would like to point out that RDJ was going nowhere when he signed on for Iron Man. So Pine could be a great choice for cap. I hate how every one is like ewww he cant hold up next to RDJ

I honestly havent heard that many people complain about Pine. Sure they are a few people who are complaining but hes not that hated

KangConquers
02-23-2010, 05:58 PM
Would anyone be surprised or disappointed if they cast against type?

I want Cap to be the Steve Rogers I see in the comic books.

FaT_tONle
02-23-2010, 05:59 PM
This casting seems more dragged out than Harvey Dent. And we are talking about the lead guy. They better still be juggling some actors still. And push back the deadline if they are still debating. Otherwise just announce it. Are they waiting on some marketing opportunity to capitalize upon announcing the choice or what? It's soon to be March and there is nothing on the horizon, unless the to-be actor has a big film on the horizon, which doesn't seem to be the case.

marcvader
02-23-2010, 06:04 PM
Dammit, tell us... Tell us now!!

richardmvela
02-23-2010, 06:13 PM
I agree, it's just taking to long. Announce the name already, at this point the speculation is not fun just tedious.

DocHoliday
02-23-2010, 06:16 PM
It is getting that way.

Compi716
02-23-2010, 06:19 PM
It's actually incredibly frustrating. I mean, what is it? Have they not found an actor yet? Are they just keeping it from us? What is taking so long to announce?

richardmvela
02-23-2010, 06:26 PM
Am I the only one getting a feeling that this movie may be a bit rushed or delayed?

Dr. Sid Jawtug
02-23-2010, 06:29 PM
I have a feeling they want Pine but are having scheduling difficulties. So they are going to have to go with their second or even third choice, which will be kind of lame.
The man told us March 1st, if we don't hear by then, let the bit-ching commence.

marcvader
02-23-2010, 06:30 PM
All I know is I don't want to hear any excuses.

SpiderByte
02-23-2010, 06:47 PM
How about this:

Until March 2nd, nobody whines about casting release. They said by the 1st. So WAIT TILL THE FIRST BEFORE THE WHINING!

After that, ***** yourselves out to your hearts content.

SpiderByte
02-23-2010, 06:48 PM
How about this:

Until March 2nd, nobody whines about casting release. They said by the 1st. So WAIT TILL THE FIRST BEFORE THE WHINING!

After that, ***** yourselves out to your hearts content.

FaT_tONle
02-23-2010, 06:48 PM
Johnson announcing a deadline was an asanine move to begin with. You announce it when you find your man. You don't set a public deadline that forces you to find a lead at a certain point. If its March 10th and they still haven't announced it, then it's going to look like they are behind schedule, and every delay from then on will give off the vibe that the move is being rushed to meet the July 2011 release. Maybe they want to announce this on Oscar week to minimize publicity. God only knows.

paulogonza
02-23-2010, 07:00 PM
very strange this kind of thing, why so mysterious with a simple cast announcement, thor was casting decades before filming, green lantern either, only cap is this delay. something wrong is happening

Chewy
02-23-2010, 07:01 PM
What the **** is all of this talk about not having announced in March? They've cast their actor and will announce him this week, unless word leaks early. You guys need to chill and stop freaking out

KangConquers
02-23-2010, 07:12 PM
What the **** is all of this talk about not having announced in March? They've cast their actor and will announce him this week, unless word leaks early. You guys need to chill and stop freaking out

I'll believe it when I see it.

flickchick85
02-23-2010, 07:20 PM
It could be that they are still working out the logistics with the actor's schedule too, keeping it from being a truly done deal. I mean, if he is working on a TV show as well, whatever it may be, that's a likely obstacle that they'd have to work through with the production studio of said show, which can take a while.

That said, I agree with Chewy - I think he IS cast and will be announced later this week, and we probably just have to chill for, at most, a few days.

jab1118
02-23-2010, 07:29 PM
Everytime I get on this website and I don't see on the front page ..........IS CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!!!! I want to break something

Son of Coul
02-23-2010, 07:45 PM
I agree with flickchick and Chewy. About pretty much everything they said in this thread, for that matter. Chill out. Pretend the movie's coming out in 2013 and the casting announcement's supposed to come in about two years. That way when it comes soon, it'll be astounding.

ImWithTeamConan
02-23-2010, 07:50 PM
Am I the only one getting a feeling that this movie may be a bit rushed or delayed?

This is what worries me. Thor seems like its all systems go. We don't even have any members of the cast for Cap yet.

Eddie Dean
02-23-2010, 07:54 PM
What if it's Jake Gyllenhaal? He's worked with Johnson before and on of his earliest roles was in Homicide on NBC. :awesome:

Chewy
02-23-2010, 07:57 PM
This is what worries me. Thor seems like its all systems go. We don't even have any members of the cast for Cap yet.
Thor went through this exact same casting process and people were freaking out in a pretty similar way the few weeks leading up to Hemsworth's casting, because Branagh had said that they were close to casting the role. Just like Johnston said about Cap a few weeks ago.

irapogi
02-23-2010, 08:02 PM
raaaaageeeeee, still no casting, ffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

haha, cheers, whatever the case, i hope it's the best choice possible.
i have faith in marvel studios. always will. :)

KangConquers
02-23-2010, 08:11 PM
Thor went through this exact same casting process and people were freaking out in a pretty similar way the few weeks leading up to Hemsworth's casting, because Branagh had said that they were close to casting the role. Just like Johnston said about Cap a few weeks ago.

That doesn't make me feel better, given Thor was delayed a year.

Project862006
02-23-2010, 08:14 PM
he already has his hero franchise

KangConquers
02-23-2010, 08:16 PM
raaaaageeeeee, still no casting, ffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

haha, cheers, whatever the case, i hope it's the best choice possible.
i have faith in marvel studios. always will. :)

“Faith... Must be enforced by reason...When faith becomes blind it dies.”- Gandhi

SpiderByte
02-23-2010, 08:23 PM
This is the general mood of nintey percent of the people here right now:

IF CASTING ISN'T RELEASED RIGHT NOW IT MEANS THEY MUST BE PUSHING BACK THE SCHEDULE, OR REARRANGING THE ACTOR'S SCHECDULE, OR SOME OTHER RIDICULOUS THING THAT ISN'T TRUE!

PAAAAAAAAAAAAANIIIIIIIIIIIIC! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

DocHoliday
02-23-2010, 08:29 PM
This is the general mood of nintey percent of the people here right now:

IF CASTING ISN'T RELEASED RIGHT NOW IT MEANS THEY MUST BE PUSHING BACK THE SCHEDULE, OR REARRANGING THE ACTOR'S SCHECDULE, OR SOME OTHER RIDICULOUS THING THAT ISN'T TRUE!

PAAAAAAAAAAAAANIIIIIIIIIIIIC! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

I disagree, respectively. I think it's a combo of JJ talking and these false casting reports and the twitter guy. It feels like it is building toward an announcement and I think it is making people a bit ansy when they hear nothing. No biggie, though.

KangConquers
02-23-2010, 08:42 PM
This is the general mood of nintey percent of the people here right now:

IF CASTING ISN'T RELEASED RIGHT NOW IT MEANS THEY MUST BE PUSHING BACK THE SCHEDULE, OR REARRANGING THE ACTOR'S SCHECDULE, OR SOME OTHER RIDICULOUS THING THAT ISN'T TRUE!

PAAAAAAAAAAAAANIIIIIIIIIIIIC! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

it happened with Thor.

Chewy
02-23-2010, 08:45 PM
Thor got pushed back several months before they cast Hemsworth, not around the time he was cast.

louiebling$
02-23-2010, 09:39 PM
The casting will be released soon... people need to chill and have patience.

I'm just as antsy as the rest of ya but moaning and groaning ain't gonna make the announcement come any faster.

Triad
02-23-2010, 09:54 PM
Everytime I get on this website and I don't see on the front page ..........IS CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!!!! I want to break something
Yeah I gotta agree. It really pisses me off everytime I log on to SHH and see the pic of that Lars Ulrich-lookin' mofo from R.I.P.D. staring back at me instead of an iconic pic of Cap with the headline reading:
"THE WAIT IS OVER! THE FIRST AVENGER IS...!"
(that and the fact that I truly can't stand Lars Ulrich!) :hehe:

KangConquers
02-23-2010, 10:07 PM
Yeah I gotta agree. It really pisses me off everytime I log on to SHH and see the pic of that Lars Ulrich-lookin' mofo from R.I.P.D. staring back at me instead of an iconic pic of Cap with the headline reading: "The wait is over! The First Avenger is...!" (that and the fact that I truly can't stand Lars Ulrich!) :hehe:

AGREED!!! That smug bastard looking back at me. It's like "What the **** is an R.I.P.D.? Why isn't Cap up?"

Lobo
02-23-2010, 11:16 PM
This is the general mood of nintey percent of the people here right now:

IF CASTING ISN'T RELEASED RIGHT NOW IT MEANS THEY MUST BE PUSHING BACK THE SCHEDULE, OR REARRANGING THE ACTOR'S SCHECDULE, OR SOME OTHER RIDICULOUS THING THAT ISN'T TRUE!

PAAAAAAAAAAAAANIIIIIIIIIIIIC! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Haha this is damn near sig worthy! :D

Webhead2006
02-24-2010, 12:51 AM
I think there are very few choices that could actually surprise me at this point. And whoever they choose, no matter how odd I think the choice is, I'm determined to give them the benefit of the doubt until I'm given reason to do otherwise. So I'm gonna try to hold off on being disappointed, no matter the choice.
That is how i feel too man, as for why we dont know yet. Maybe marvel doesnt want to reveal it yet, or maybe it isnt totally finalized yet? Plus we got all this week and start of next week for it to be revealed if its going to be revealed prior/on the first of march.

Also i dont see how the film would be in trouble/delayed if we dont have a name within the next week. Pre production has been on going for months, joe is moving prep to london to get things set up there. Since filming is going on there. They will probably be starting to do set work in london. Plus for who ever is the actor picked for cap he still has a good 4+ months to bulk up, and do other training/costume fittings and all that.

chiefchirpa
02-24-2010, 03:01 AM
Why can't people pent up their rage until March 2 2010?

Dave40
02-24-2010, 03:20 AM
I hope Im wrong,but I think the movie is going to be delayed:csad:.Maybe they are going to re-schedule the Captain America and The Avengers release dates to have more time to do it right.

Webhead2006
02-24-2010, 03:37 AM
why would it be delayed there is tons of time before they are due to start production around june 28th i believe. From what we know they could have their steve already picked. Now if thats true, that gives that guy as i said aroind 4 months to bulk up and other prep work. then they have to sign the supporting roles which could be happening now-right up before production even starts.

blinkuldhc
02-24-2010, 04:19 AM
YEah...no reason for it to get delayed. So long as there is a finished script and a director, and it's not too CGI heavy, then the movie should finish on schedule IMO.

I mean, Avatar was shot in like 30 days, they can make this work.

knowsbleed
02-24-2010, 04:30 AM
I mean, Avatar was shot in like 30 days, they can make this work.

Huh? :huh:

NIGHTSWING
02-24-2010, 09:09 AM
Speaking of Thor! Do you guys think we will see Chris as Thor before they give us Cap's name? Or could Marvel give us both all at once on the same day to reallly make our heads spin! Spin me!

Young Superman
02-24-2010, 09:14 AM
good question

Canis Sapiens
02-24-2010, 09:16 AM
Nah, I believe we'll have Cap's name first. I think we're seeing an official Thor picture in, like, two months.

Nirvana
02-24-2010, 09:34 AM
I'm almost positive that we'll see a Thor teaser with Iron Man 2.

Also, why would this get delayed? Incredible Hulk started filming 12 months before release date and it came out on its release date. The cast will be announced soon.

OB12
02-24-2010, 09:48 AM
I am not really sure why some are so worried about this film being delayed. They don't start filming until June which will probably end in Sept/Oct giving them 8 or 9 months for post production. That seems fairly reasonable to me given that there are going to be less fantastical elements in this movie requiring less CGI and relying more heavily on actual stunt work.

FlawlessVictory
02-24-2010, 10:16 AM
I just don't get why it's taking so long to announce that Will Smith is Captain America.

Lobo
02-24-2010, 10:18 AM
So Jaimie tweeted that Zachary Levi stopped by the Thor set. We know at one point he was set to play Fandral who is blond and buff. Maybe he came by to tell them he's Cap. Let the rumours begin! :woot:

louiebling$
02-24-2010, 10:21 AM
I just don't get why it's taking so long to announce that Will Smith is Captain America.
Because they are negotiating his sons's coontract he is playing bucky... they are a package deal.

FlawlessVictory
02-24-2010, 10:26 AM
So Jaimie tweeted that Zachary Levi stopped by the Thor set. We know at one point he was set to play Fandral who is blond and buff. Maybe he came by to tell them he's Cap. Let the rumours begin! :woot:

If Twitter guy is right, I would consider Levi a doozy and obviously he hails from NBC.

Because they are negotiating his sons's coontract he is playing bucky... they are a package deal.

:woot:

FlawlessVictory
02-24-2010, 10:31 AM
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r450/RHINO88_album/Zachary-Levi.jpg

:cap:

A pic of him with shorter hair.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u102/FlawlessVictory_photos/ZacharyLevi.jpg


I think it could work.

NIGHTSWING
02-24-2010, 10:48 AM
If Twitter guy is right, I would consider Levi a doozy and obviously he hails from NBC.



:woot:

Dr. Watson! You have found our Cap! It's him.






If the twitter guys is right! :) I think he's right!

Compi716
02-24-2010, 11:19 AM
What else has Levi done besides Chuck? In the pictures posted above he doesn't look too bad for Cap...but his role in the show is pretty doofy, and not Cap-like at all. Has he done anything that shows he could potentially pull off the role?

ComicBookGuy
02-24-2010, 11:27 AM
Maybe it's Adam Baldwin :P He can draw from his days on set of Full Metal Jacket.

FlawlessVictory
02-24-2010, 11:27 AM
What else has Levi done besides Chuck? In the pictures posted above he doesn't look too bad for Cap...but his role in the show is pretty doofy, and not Cap-like at all. Has he done anything that shows he could potentially pull off the role?

Looking at his IMDB page (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1157048/), not much. However, just because he never played a certain type of character before does not mean he is incapable of doing so.

I really do believe if Twitter guy is telling the truth then our Cap is Levi.

SuperTidus
02-24-2010, 11:38 AM
Looking at his IMDB page (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1157048/), not much. However, just because he never played a certain type of character before does not mean he is incapable of doing so.

I really do believe if Twitter guy is telling the truth then our Cap is Levi.

Hey Fellas! Longtime reader, but never really joined the forum until now. :woot:

Anyways, as much as I'd love to see Levi wearing the flag since I'm a HUGE Chuck fan. Ryan McPartlin hails from that show, so there's still that curve ball. Yea, the whole age argument is still there for McPartlin, but there's no harm in offering more confusion to our frustrations. :doh:

Brian Braddock
02-24-2010, 11:40 AM
What else has Levi done besides Chuck? In the pictures posted above he doesn't look too bad for Cap...but his role in the show is pretty doofy, and not Cap-like at all. Has he done anything that shows he could potentially pull off the role?

Havent seen him in anything else but I said pages back that McPartlin's been given the chance to show a little more range in Season 3. Well, the same goes for Levi -I'm currently a few episodes in and it's clear that this season is all about Chucks metamorphosis from cowardly, slacker geek to responsible, heroic badass.

Levi's pulling it off convincingly too.

Brian Braddock
02-24-2010, 11:43 AM
:cap:

A pic of him with shorter hair.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u102/FlawlessVictory_photos/ZacharyLevi.jpg


I think it could work.

Damn, he looks different.

In a good way. I didnt think it would be possible but now, I'm seeing potential.

FlawlessVictory
02-24-2010, 11:43 AM
Hey Fellas! Longtime reader, but never really joined the forum until now. :woot:

Anyways, as much as I'd love to see Levi wearing the flag since I'm a HUGE Chuck fan. Ryan McPartlin hails from that show, so there's still that curve ball. Yea, the whole age argument is still there for McPartlin, but there's no harm in offering more confusion to our frustrations. :doh:

Yea, I hear ya, definitely frustrating! And Welcome to the Hype! :)

Compi716
02-24-2010, 11:51 AM
Havent seen him in anything else but I said pages back that McPartlin's been given the chance to show a little more range in Season 3. Well, the same goes for Levi -I'm currently a few episodes in and it's clear that this season is all about Chucks metamorphosis from cowardly, slacker geek to responsible, heroic badass.

Levi's pulling it off convincingly too.
Well that's good. I mean, if it is Levi he can pull a Ledger on us and blow everybody out of the water. I think the problem is picturing him as Steve Rogers. When I think of Levi, I think of the way he looks on Chuck. Looking at this pic Rage posted though...
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r450/RHINO88_album/Zachary-Levi.jpg
The first thought that comes to mind is "Dayuuum..." He certainly has "the look" there.

OB12
02-24-2010, 11:57 AM
I don't watch Chuck, so I can't really comment on Levi's acting ability but I would say that his look for Cap could be OK. I think there are better options because it seems like it would be difficult for Levi to achieve the type of physique that Cap requires. He looks like his frame is big enough but I am concerned that he would be able to get the kind of muscle definition that Cap should have.

FaT_tONle
02-24-2010, 11:58 AM
I hope Im wrong,but I think the movie is going to be delayed:csad:.Maybe they are going to re-schedule the Captain America and The Avengers release dates to have more time to do it right.

I would admit a delay is highly unlikely at this point, but if there are more pre-production issues with it and Avengers can't find a director and moves to 2013, I see no reason Marvel wouldn't push Cap to 2012 as their main tentpole that year. They haven't put out two movies in the same year since they opened up in 2008. I think a delay will also factor in with Avengers, so the two are not mutually exclusive. Cap could take the July 4th weekend in 2012, and Spidey can take Avengers current release date. Doesn't necessarily mean Cap is in developmental hell. Just means Marvel's long term vision needs another year to develop. As long as IM3 is still on for 2014 I'll be okay with that.

Project862006
02-24-2010, 12:43 PM
how does levy looks like cap there lol he looks more like JFK

Dr. Sid Jawtug
02-24-2010, 12:49 PM
If anything Levi could pull off a mean Bucky. This twitter guy is an idiot messing with us nerds.

sdn
02-24-2010, 12:52 PM
I love Zach Levi as an actor - I think he's very talented.

Rage
02-24-2010, 12:54 PM
Well that's good. I mean, if it is Levi he can pull a Ledger on us and blow everybody out of the water. I think the problem is picturing him as Steve Rogers. When I think of Levi, I think of the way he looks on Chuck. Looking at this pic Rage posted though...

The first thought that comes to mind is "Dayuuum..." He certainly has "the look" there.

That's a photo manipulation. I put Robert Redford's hair on Levi, changed his eye colour to blue and lightened his eyebrows...

Levi has put on some weight (for his potential role in Thor) and could continue to do so. He's a bit of a camelion. I see photos of him where he looks really "doofy" and others where he looks like a "douchie" model type :D

It's funny... I brought him up as a joke... but the choice doesn't seem that bad (considering some of the alternatives)

TikkiEXX
02-24-2010, 12:55 PM
im starting to not care. lol. all these Twitter rumors sound kind of bogus and most of the guys people bring up in casting rumors arent anything to get excited about. hell according to rumors the whole cast of Chuck is in the running to be Cap. lol. im expecting them to cast someone noones thought of anyway. maybe a theatre actor or something, i dunno.

Iceman
02-24-2010, 01:04 PM
This been posted?


I've learned that Marvel Studios and director Joe Johnston are ready to test candidates for Captain America, and I’ve got their wish list. I’m told that the contenders include Chace Crawford, John Krasinski, Scott Porter, Mike Vogel and Michael Cassidy. They also wanted Garrett Hedlund, but he so far hasn’t made a test deal. The role is enticing, but Marvel is known for driving hard bargains on its superhero deals. There's a salary scale, but if you're not a known quantity like Gossip Girl's Crawford or The Office's Krasinski, the offer is around $300,000 for the first film. And whoever gets the role will have to sign for another nine options for future films that include sequels, Avengers movies, or anything else Marvel decides. In fact, I’m told reliably that Captain America director Johnston recently reached an impasse with Marvel and briefly walked off the film when Marvel informed him the budget was too high and he’d have to take a pay cut. They found common ground and he returned to the fold, but it reinforces Marvel’s reputation for hard bargaining, something that all the Iron Man 2 participants discovered.

Compi716
02-24-2010, 01:07 PM
Woah...

louiebling$
02-24-2010, 01:07 PM
This been posted?
Yes FINALLY A list!

Son of Coul
02-24-2010, 01:08 PM
If that's for real, then... Krasinski... REALLY WAS A CHOICE??? Bizarre.

Maze
02-24-2010, 01:14 PM
:)

Exciting times

Thanks Iceman

http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/02/captain-america-contenders-krasinski-cassidy-vogel-fluger-more.html

Rage
02-24-2010, 01:15 PM
Interesting. I have no idea who Chace Crawford or Michael Cassidy are... but I like Scott Porter and Garrett Hedlund. Vogel is a bit to short my taste... but not a bad actor. Krasinski could be interesting... but I prefer someone else, as I don't want to see Jim as big as a house in the next season of the Office. :D

Sounds like it could be legit... I wouldn't discount it... but I wouldn't live and die by this "news" article.

Maze
02-24-2010, 01:20 PM
John Krasinski 1 rst choice then Scott Porter for me.

Octoberist
02-24-2010, 01:22 PM
this Scott Porter guy is the ultimate underdog when it comes to superhero casting. I think he's been involved with a number of superhero movies (Justice League, Green Lantern, Superman, etc) and nothing freakin' happens!

OB12
02-24-2010, 01:22 PM
Yeah, of those listed, Krasinski is the only one that works for me.

louiebling$
02-24-2010, 01:23 PM
Chase Crawford was my pick for The New Cyclops

Chewy
02-24-2010, 01:24 PM
Hedlund and Porter are the best choices on that list

Project862006
02-24-2010, 01:26 PM
hope heldund gets it out of those names hope they actually strike a deal and not let money get in the way

Maze
02-24-2010, 01:28 PM
It is legit, it has hit the hollywood reporter some minutes later :)

Son of Coul
02-24-2010, 01:28 PM
I love Krasinski as Jim but I don't peg him as Captain America at all, in appearance or persona. After looking up the others, they at least have the look, but I've never seen them act so I dunno.

Prison Mike
02-24-2010, 01:31 PM
Scott Porter is my first choice. I love John Krasinski but I never would have pegged him for Captain America. Of course that doesn't mean he doesn't have what it takes. If he's being screen tested for the part, the director obviously saw potential in him.

SWAT
02-24-2010, 01:32 PM
Wow, us fanboys are better at finding actors than Marvel... :p

Project862006
02-24-2010, 01:34 PM
final 3 imo should be Porter/Hedlund and Krasinski just for a curveball

OB12
02-24-2010, 01:34 PM
See, I think all of the those other guys look too slight in build to really carry off Cap convincingly, with possibly the exception of Vogel who seems kinda short. Krasinski, while lanky, at least has a large enough frame to pack on some good muscle and look like a super soldier. Plus, he also has a pretty classic look.

I am really non-plused about Porter, I don't see what makes people think he would be a good Cap.

Octoberist
02-24-2010, 01:35 PM
I love Krasinski as Jim but I don't peg him as Captain America at all, in appearance or persona. After looking up the others, they at least have the look, but I've never seen them act so I dunno.

Krasinski is my choice for The Flash.

Chewy
02-24-2010, 01:35 PM
In the search for a likable, all-American hero that can fill the red, white, and blue costume of Captain America and stand toe-to-toe alongside Iron Man, one potential candidate that hasn't been mentioned is The Office star John Krasinski (http://www.moviefone.com/celebrity/john-krasinski/2207444/main?icid=movsmartsearch). Deadline Hollywood (http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/) just released a short list of candidates for the role that includes Chace Crawford, John Krasinski, Scott Porter, Mike Vogel and Michael Cassidy. However, Cinematical received word yesterday through an anonymous tipster that Krasinski is all but a sure thing for the role of Marvel's star-spangled Avenger in Joe Johnston (http://www.moviefone.com/celebrity/joe-johnston/1129279/main)'s upcoming film The First Avenger: Captain America (http://www.moviefone.com/movie/the-first-avenger-captain-america/33906/main). Surprised?

It's exactly the kind of off-the-beaten-path casting that reaped huge rewards for Marvel when they put Robert Downey Jr. (http://www.moviefone.com/celebrity/robert-downey-jr/1789971/main?icid=movsmartsearch) in the Iron Man armor. Krasinski is charismatic and funny, he's the right age for the part, and he's filled with the sort of wide-eyed youthfulness that plays up Captain America's steadfast WWII-era optimism. Whoever they choose needs to be someone that can realistically muster an equal amount of screen presence as Downey Jr (for that eventual Avengers team flick), and I think Krasinski is better suited to this task than some of the recently rumored names (like Robert Buckley (http://screenrant.com/robert-buckley-cast-as-captain-america-rob-46070/)). Some weight training and the right script, and he just might be a perfect, albeit completely unexpected, fit for the part.

If true, it's an inspired choice. I've been around long enough to remember people crying foul over the casting of Michael Keaton as Batman or some unknown named Hugh Jackman getting the role of Wolverine right at the last minute. Remember the fan outcry when they announced pretty-boy Heath Ledger as the Joker? That turned out pretty well, didn't it? I have no doubt that Krasinski would do his best to bring the Marvel character to life, if the rumor holds true.

Do note that as of now this is still a rumor, and negotiations are a tricky animal. Until officially confirmed, file this under a big fat maybe.
SOURCE (http://www.cinematical.com/2010/02/24/exclusive-is-john-krasinski-our-captain-america/)

Chewy
02-24-2010, 01:38 PM
Krasinski fits all of Johnston's comments (although his status as an "unknown" is arguable) and he fits all of Twitter Guy's comments, too

Son of Coul
02-24-2010, 01:38 PM
Most of the choices seem a little too much like Hollywood pretty boys, but again I haven't seen them act. Whoever they pick has to have a classic rugged way of carrying himself, a stern oldschool guy's guy, like Clint Eastwood or something. Of course not EXACTLY like that, just not some typical cw teen melodramatic actor, they gotta capture that old feel.

Son of Coul
02-24-2010, 01:41 PM
Krasinski is my choice for The Flash.
That I could see.

But who knows, maybe Halpert will knock it out of the park.

kvz5
02-24-2010, 01:42 PM
http://twitter.com/elmayimbe

Folks, I can confirm that yesterday @erikdavis had Krasinski as Captain America & reached out to me. I told him to post it. Damn.

Stay tuned folks, that Captain America story is not all for today. We got a HUGE SCOOP that would get Nikki Finke's panties moist.

kvz5
02-24-2010, 01:42 PM
double post

Octoberist
02-24-2010, 01:44 PM
it better be huge Elmayimbe. better be!

flickchick85
02-24-2010, 01:45 PM
Actually, I have a feeling that Twitter guy was referring to Krasinski (it fits ALL of his comments, including the "doozy"), but was misinformed as to how done a deal he was. He probably found out that Krasinski was working on a "deal" and assumed it was THE deal rather than the "testing deal" Finke was talking about.

Anyway, out of this list, I'm crossing my fingers for Scott Porter...AND Krasinski (what's happening to me?!). Because this is otherwise a terrible list, imo. Chace Crawford? Michael Cassidy? WTF.

TikkiEXX
02-24-2010, 01:47 PM
i think i can live with Krasinski as Cap. i think he may be able to pull it off. im sure he has more range than just comedy and its his big chance, i think hed go all out if he got the part. but the other guys on the list look pretty good too.

TheComicbookKid
02-24-2010, 01:51 PM
Based on what happend with GL, it might be Krasinski. Weird.

Ricky_Tan
02-24-2010, 01:52 PM
krasinski is a good choice

batsfan81
02-24-2010, 01:53 PM
Remember when Green Lantern wax cast they had locking deals on Reynolds, Cooper and Timberlake and the next day Reynolds was confirmed.

Blackman
02-24-2010, 01:55 PM
Hedlund and Porter are the best choices on that list
Agreed but they said HEdlund dropped out of the role.

Project862006
02-24-2010, 01:55 PM
Garret Hedlund is my choice

terry78
02-24-2010, 01:55 PM
To be honest, Crawford looks like him. He would have to get a tad more built, but he looks like him, that you can't deny. But Porter is who I'm gunning for.

OB12
02-24-2010, 01:57 PM
Krasinski is definitely a choice out of left field, but I really think he works well the more I think about it. Out of those listed I think he has the best acting chops and he is someone you can really pull for, very likeable. Plus I think he would bring a lot to an ensemble cast including RDJ, Norton, and Jackson.

kvz5
02-24-2010, 01:59 PM
Twitter guy confirmed the JK choice:

http://schofizzymoviereview.blogspot.com/2010/02/captain-america-is-enlisted.html

Canis Sapiens
02-24-2010, 01:59 PM
The Twitter guy says it's Krasinski:

Nikki Finke ran Marvel's short list for Captain America, but we all know who it really is http://twurl.cc/28k1

batsfan81
02-24-2010, 02:00 PM
Based on what happend with GL, it might be Krasinski. Weird.


Yeah when GL was announced they said they had locking deals on the 3 contenders then Reynolds was announced the next day.

kvz5
02-24-2010, 02:00 PM
Twitter guy confirmed the JK choice:

http://schofizzymoviereview.blogspot.com/2010/02/captain-america-is-enlisted.html

afrayedknot
02-24-2010, 02:01 PM
Actually, I have a feeling that Twitter guy was referring to Krasinski (it fits ALL of his comments, including the "doozy"), but was misinformed as to how done a deal he was. He probably found out that Krasinski was working on a "deal" and assumed it was THE deal rather than the "testing deal" Finke was talking about.

Anyway, out of this list, I'm crossing my fingers for Scott Porter...AND Krasinski (what's happening to me?!). Because this is otherwise a terrible list, imo. Chace Crawford? Michael Cassidy? WTF.

I feel the same way. I can't explain it, but I can actually get excited about Krasinki! And, if we're taking the Twitter guy seriously, he's the only one that could be considered a "doozy."

OB12
02-24-2010, 02:07 PM
Great choice! Krasinski will bring something great to this film.

Chewy
02-24-2010, 02:08 PM
Twitter Guy ran his story

This news has been a long time coming, but it is finally here, well sorta. Nikki Finke has ran Marvel and Paramount's short list for Captain America! The list is comprised of a 5 semi-unknowns, but one stands out as the real mccoy. Never in a million years would have I thought of this choice, but now that the cat is out of the bag, it just might be one of the best castings in a long while. Find out who all is on Marvel's shortlist and who will actually dawn the stars and stripes for Marvel after the jump...


Nikki Finke lists Chace Crawford, John Krasinski, Scott Porter, Mike Vogel and Michael Cassidy as the potential candidates for Captain America. Truthfully, only one of these guys has the ability to carry out the role and he is...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Z3BUX71Sca8/S4MzEMSsg3I/AAAAAAAAI1w/eb6kR9N3CDc/s320/John-Krasinski-Elle-large.png (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Z3BUX71Sca8/S4MzEMSsg3I/AAAAAAAAI1w/eb6kR9N3CDc/s1600-h/John-Krasinski-Elle-large.png)
Actor John Krasinski will be Captain America in the Joe Johnston directed film "The First Avenger: Captain America." As we previously knew, Johnston and Marvel intended to hire a lesser name actor and surround him with bigger names. Krasinski is a perfect fit under the microscope that Paramount, Marvel and director Joe Johnston had in mind.

First and for most, Krasinski has a perfect look for Steve Rogers and a WWII era film. Krasinski most well know for his role of Jim Halpert on NBC's The Office, will make a perfect specimen of the dweeb like Steve Rogers who becomes Captain America. Furthermore, Krasinski is not that far from obtaining a little definition that would give a more fit and muscular look for the role. And yes we all can imagine working a storyline on The Office where Jim begins a new workout regiment.

I have been sitting on this news for a few weeks now, primarily because if I ran the scoop earlier, a close friend could have lost his job, not to mention the loss of his trust. Now that a few sites have scored the scoop, there is no reason to wait any longer. Over the time that I have stewed on this news, I have grown more and more excited. I have always liked John Krasinski on The Office and think he has the potential to be a perfect Captain America. Lastly, how great is it gonna be to see Robert Downey Jr., Chris Hemsworth, John Krasinski and Edward Norton sharing the screen in the upcoming "The Avengers" movie slated for 2012!?!

Stay tuned for more news on "The First Avenger: Captain America" as it develops...SOURCE (http://schofizzymoviereview.blogspot.com/2010/02/captain-america-is-enlisted.html)

afrayedknot
02-24-2010, 02:08 PM
This seems like a win for everyone!

Project862006
02-24-2010, 02:09 PM
elmayimbe Twitter


Fanboys are gonna love & talk about what we got...

BETArayBill
02-24-2010, 02:09 PM
Twitter guy confirmed the JK choice:

http://schofizzymoviereview.blogspot.com/2010/02/captain-america-is-enlisted.html

John Krasinski? Please tell me your joking.

batsfan81
02-24-2010, 02:11 PM
I love the choice , Hedlund would have been good too.

Son of Coul
02-24-2010, 02:13 PM
Holy ****, now that I'm thinking about it, Jim on The Office, while he does have a sense of humor, he's pretty reserved and not wacky or anything by any means. He's a pretty good actor on the serious parts of the show, though as I mentioned I have yet to see him yelling convincingly. But I'd imagine that's part of the testing, so there's always that too... I'll trust the studio.

Compi716
02-24-2010, 02:14 PM
Wow, so is it all but official that John Krasinski is Cap?!

I must say, at first I was very skeptical towards the idea, but after reading Schofizzy's article and the one from Cinematical, I am TOTALLY on board. They both bring up excellent points about why he'd do well, and no one can deny that Krasinski has an incredible likeability factor about him.

I give it a thumbs up. Another crazy out of left field choice that has potential to be awesome!

Project862006
02-24-2010, 02:18 PM
ehh latino reviews twitter news was goyer is writing superman script

OB12
02-24-2010, 02:21 PM
You put Krasinski opposite Viggo Mortensen as the Red Skull and you have the beginnings of a great cast.

Figs
02-24-2010, 02:25 PM
Pretty interesting that Krasinski is a possible choice. He's great on The Office(my favorite character) and it would be cool to see him do a more serious kind of role.

batman44
02-24-2010, 02:26 PM
If John Krasinski is indeed Captain America, it's an interesting choice. It wasn't one that immediately made me really excited, but I think has potential to be really good.

OptimusPrime114
02-24-2010, 02:28 PM
Wow, so is it all but official that John Krasinski is Cap?!

I must say, at first I was very skeptical towards the idea, but after reading Schofizzy's article and the one from Cinematical, I am TOTALLY on board. They both bring up excellent points about why he'd do well, and no one can deny that Krasinski has an incredible likeability factor about him.

I give it a thumbs up. Another crazy out of left field choice that has potential to be awesome!

Nice to know some people are open-minded.

Sometimes the actors you need for these roles are the ones you'd least expect.

Like Michael Keaton with the 89 Batman

Like Heath Ledger as the Joker

Like Robert Downey, Jr. as Iron Man

I can go on and on, but If it is true and John is Cap, I am willing to be open-minded. I mean it could be worse: THEY COULD HAVE CASTED CRAWFORD! (who would be cool as Iceman in X-Men: First Class, btw)

Majmun
02-24-2010, 02:28 PM
Might as well cast Rainn Wilson for Red Skull.

http://i48.tinypic.com/bj7f28.jpg

FlawlessVictory
02-24-2010, 02:30 PM
John Krasinski? Please tell me your joking.

Agreed. Krasinski, IMO, is a bad choice. Too dopey looking. Don't like it.

SuperTidus
02-24-2010, 02:30 PM
Krasinski is a surprise, no doubt. Of all the guys there, I think he's got the best acting chops (what matters most) to pull off a good Captain America.

However, we are still going off what "twitter guy" said and not sure how credible that is. Still need to wait for that official casting release.

P.S. I'm all for Krasinski, as it'll make the Mrs. more excited to come watch too since she's loves The Office.

NIGHTSWING
02-24-2010, 02:31 PM
John Krasinki? Not my first pick, but what the hell! Go get em John! :)

Blackman
02-24-2010, 02:31 PM
Im not really digging this Krasinski choice

But I guess I have faith

OptimusPrime114
02-24-2010, 02:31 PM
Agreed. Krasinski, IMO, is a bad choice. Too dopey looking. Don't like it.

Like Tobey Maguire?

Son of Coul
02-24-2010, 02:33 PM
If it's Krasinski, this is crazy weird, but so were Ledger and Downey Jr, so who knows. I was on the fence like a half hour ago, but I'm warming up to it. It's just surreal at first to hear Jim Halpert going to be killing Nazis, and I know an actor's not defined by his character, but it is a bit strange.

However Krasinski's clearly more mature and... I guess "brighter" than your expected pretty boy cw actor I was describing. What I mean is when you watch interviews with him he's not doing the typical shoveling **** that most actors expected in the role would, he's real and sharp and funny. This is crazy-ass news, but I have to say I dig it, if true.

Project862006
02-24-2010, 02:33 PM
it will take more than weight training and hair dye he does look too dopey looking

it is like casting jason siegel as a super hero

FlawlessVictory
02-24-2010, 02:33 PM
Like Tobey Maguire?

I don't think Maguire is dopey looking but Krasinski has that long face with a funny nose. Eh, whatever, I'll give him a shot I guess but I'm not liking it.

Webhead2006
02-24-2010, 02:33 PM
Great we finally have a list of names. Now with these guys named i would perfer to have porter, hedlud, and maybe vogel. Dont know chance's work and cassidy i liked him in a few roles i have seen but i dont really see cap in him.

Chewy
02-24-2010, 02:34 PM
Krasinski isn't my first choice but I can kind of see where he might potentially work, maybe. He better be hitting the gym hard, though

Compi716
02-24-2010, 02:35 PM
Now all we need is some real official confirmation.

The one thing I'm still a bit confused on is this "test list." Now, Deadline confirmed that, but Schofizzy says it IS Krasinski and Cinematical says they HEARD it MIGHT be Krasinski. So many different reports!

bapi
02-24-2010, 02:35 PM
No Krasinski, please! He looks like Brendan Fraser, god!

Project862006
02-24-2010, 02:36 PM
imo gym really wont cut it either he has a long face a big nose and huge ears lol

afan
02-24-2010, 02:37 PM
One thing for sure.........he's got some serious gym work to do.


Like Michael Keaton with the 89 Batman


We are talking Captain America please pay attention to the "no rubber muscle physique zone!" signs.

batman44
02-24-2010, 02:38 PM
I think Krasinski definitely has that WWII era look to him.

OB12
02-24-2010, 02:38 PM
Physically, Krasinski is probably going to make a better Cap than most of those names on the list. Tall frame, long arms and legs will lend itself well to getting long, lean muscles that Cap should have. His face is also full of character and he certainly gives off a wholesome vibe.

OptimusPrime114
02-24-2010, 02:38 PM
it will take more than weight training and hair dye he does look too dopey looking

it is like casting jason siegel as a super hero

Now that you mention it, he'd be great as Starfox.

Blackman
02-24-2010, 02:39 PM
Any news when Marvel will officially announce?

PS: Damn shame that Hedlund dropped out

OptimusPrime114
02-24-2010, 02:40 PM
One thing for sure.........he's got some serious gym work to do.



We are talking Captain America here a "no rubber muscle physique zone!"

I mean acting, not physical!

catlas
02-24-2010, 02:40 PM
I think he is referring to the shock at casting choices..not physique..had Keaton had to..then I am sure he would have bulked up...but what he brought blew a lot of people away...like Ledger..and Downey...if IF J.K. is the guy..he can bulk up easily enough...at least enough to be "believable" as a hero...

Changeling
02-24-2010, 02:40 PM
Krasinski is ****ing perfect I love this choice so much

HUMANIMAL
02-24-2010, 02:41 PM
seein that collage, all others besides krasinski maybe look the part more...but arent charismatic at all...i see six blonde ken's:-)

Son of Coul
02-24-2010, 02:42 PM
Another thing is it'd be great to finally get a superhero that doesn't look like a ****ing model. I've mentioned this desire before but it was written off with that terrible "superhero movies aren't supposed to be realistic" excuse. Though looking at him in that collage with all the other candidates is pretty funny (and a little satisfying), like "hah, all the beautiful buff guys in America tried out for Cap and were beaten by this dopey mother****er, take that!"

catlas
02-24-2010, 02:42 PM
seein that collage, all others besides krasinski maybe look the part more...but arent charismatic at all...i see six blonde ken's:-)
That was my only thing with most of the canidates (not to take away from any ability they might have) they all look like Calvin Klien underwear models..very cookie cutter for the most part..nothing of note stood out to me ..

Son of Coul
02-24-2010, 02:44 PM
^'zackly, no real personality to them.

Project862006
02-24-2010, 02:44 PM
Any news when Marvel will officially announce?

PS: Damn shame that Hedlund dropped out

it did'nt say he dropped out it said

They also wanted Garrett Hedlund (Tron Legacy), but he so far hasn’t made a test deal.

Changeling
02-24-2010, 02:44 PM
My choices would be Porter or Krasinski. Preferrably Krasinski. Save Porter for Flash or Superman

HUMANIMAL
02-24-2010, 02:45 PM
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1168/capndoublehead.png (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/capndoublehead.png/)
looks more like cap on this photo than on most others ive seen till now

Chris B
02-24-2010, 02:46 PM
I really think Krasinki would surprise a lot of people. Vogel wouldn't be bad. Hedlund had become my top choice recently, so I'm disappointed to see him fall of their radar. I'd be open minded about Porter. The others, I'm not sure about.

Project862006
02-24-2010, 02:47 PM
no he does'nt lol

afan
02-24-2010, 02:48 PM
I mean acting, not physical!

The shock associated with Keaton's casting was because of his physical presence, not his skill as an actor....at least for me.

SuperTidus
02-24-2010, 02:48 PM
Humanimal's picture ^^^ I think shows what could be a WWII homegrown Steve Rogers. Not some Calvin Klein pretty-boy of this generation, but a wholesome American guy in the 40s.

Did I mention he can easily bulk up and he's got the acting skills?

OptimusPrime114
02-24-2010, 02:51 PM
seein that collage, all others besides krasinski maybe look the part more...but arent charismatic at all...i see six blonde ken's:-)

I concur.

Project862006
02-24-2010, 02:53 PM
sure he can but he looks nothing and i mean nothing like Steve Rogers

also i hope these 2 guys get there scheduling conflicts sorted out

Garret Hedlund, already starring in Disney's "Tron," was also on the list to test but has fallen off, at least for now, because of scheduling conflicts. Insiders say he may still make the testing round. Jensen Ackles is another actor who had scheduling conflicts.

HUMANIMAL
02-24-2010, 02:55 PM
Humanimal's picture ^^^ I think shows what could be a WWII homegrown Steve Rogers. Not some Calvin Klein pretty-boy of this generation, but a wholesome American guy in the 40s.

Did I mention he can easily bulk up and he's got the acting skills?

exactly...all claim that we need one who can stand besides RDJ and Norton to lead. i think its more important to have a good actor instead of one that looks like a doll.

BoredGuy
02-24-2010, 02:55 PM
I'm sure Krasinski could act the part, but he will never get anywhere near Cap shape by June...Porter seems like the best choice on that list.

TheFuture
02-24-2010, 02:58 PM
A collage of Hollywood's young male talent... aka... Captain America Contenders!

http://www.internapse.com/main/img/15.jpg

Ha, look at them, they all look like pretty boys bar Krasinski, for that alone he gets my vote. I think this could work amazingly well, we're talking about Captain America here, one of us average joes who got a chance of a lifetime. I would BELIEVE in Krasinski as Steve Rogers, he looks like the type of guy that you'd you want to support because he's one of your own. The rest of them just look like unrelatable pretty boys.

SuperTidus
02-24-2010, 02:58 PM
exactly...all claim that we need one who can stand besides RDJ and Norton to lead. i think its more important to have a good actor instead of one that looks like a doll.

Agreed, the looks of the character can easily be remedied by a good actor. These examples have been thrown around before, but Hugh Jackman looked nothing like Wolverine, Ledger like The Joker, RDJ like Stark and even Bale like Bruce Wayne.

Despite that all those actors showed us (well, me at least) that they could nail those characters, and now I can't think of anyone else playing them. So I'll give Krasinski a chance.

HUMANIMAL
02-24-2010, 02:58 PM
my first choice was always thomas jane.i dont think kransinski looks like steve rogers from the comics...but more like steve rogers from the movie...remember the face from the one who played captain in that older movie?

afan
02-24-2010, 02:59 PM
Ok I'm gettin' ready to duck......but I am not sure how his nose....... it's.......prominent, will look in Captain America's mask.

kvz5
02-24-2010, 03:02 PM
sure he can but he looks nothing and i mean nothing like Steve Rogers

also i hope these 2 guys get there scheduling conflicts sorted out

Garret Hedlund, already starring in Disney's "Tron," was also on the list to test but has fallen off, at least for now, because of scheduling conflicts. Insiders say he may still make the testing round. Jensen Ackles is another actor who had scheduling conflicts.


Yeah I find it interesting that Ackles was brought up on this list so it does seem like he was considered as well. I guess the 6th season of Supernatural prevented it from happening.

Blackman
02-24-2010, 03:02 PM
I always picture People who complain about pretty boy/Calvin Klein model looking actots as these jealous/easily sexually threatened guys. People realize that Cap is supposed to look good.

And as far as Charisma/personality goes: Vogel, Hedlund, and Porter all have loads of that as evidenced by alot of their works

FlawlessVictory
02-24-2010, 03:03 PM
Agreed, the looks of the character can easily be remedied by a good actor. These examples have been thrown around before, but Hugh Jackman looked nothing like Wolverine, Ledger like The Joker, RDJ like Stark and even Bale like Bruce Wayne.

Despite that all those actors showed us (well, me at least) that they could nail those characters, and now I can't think of anyone else playing them. So I'll give Krasinski a chance.

The thing with the casting of those heroes(RDJ, Bale, Jackman) those guys are extremely good looking. I like that in a hero, as is Ryan Reynolds and Chris Hemsworth. Krasinski on the other hand, he's just more goofy looking. Not bad looking but not on that level I like to see my superhero be. :woot:

BETArayBill
02-24-2010, 03:03 PM
I'm still holding my breath until I see something offical and hoping it's not Krasinski or any of those other guys except maybe porter.

HUMANIMAL
02-24-2010, 03:03 PM
to me steve rogers face should have edges ans flaws...he is no pretty boy at all.

Project862006
02-24-2010, 03:04 PM
Hedlund and Porter are not a pretty boys the rest are tho

FlawlessVictory
02-24-2010, 03:05 PM
I always picture People who complain about pretty boy/Calvin Klein model looking actots as these jealous/easily sexually threatened guys. People realize that Cap is supposed to look good.

Agreed. No reason why we can't have good looking and talented actor for the role of Cap. Some people are saying it's more important to have talent. Why can't we have both.

And IMO, Cap should be a damn handsome man.

Superark
02-24-2010, 03:06 PM
out of those choices I prefer Vogel. I remember thinking of him years ago for Captain America when watching Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I never would have thought he actually would be a choice all these years later

TheFuture
02-24-2010, 03:06 PM
I always picture People who complain about pretty boy/Calvin Klein model looking actots as these jealous/easily sexually threatened guys. People realize that Cap is supposed to look good.

And as far as Charisma goes Vogel, Hedlund, and Porter all have loads of that as evidenced by alot of their works

No, it's because I don't think a pretty boy Captain America will transfer well onto the big screen. Every man, woman and child should want to get behind Cap as THE leader, with a guy like Krasinski you've got a better chance of that happening than with the rest of them up for the role.

dsfjr1190
02-24-2010, 03:07 PM
Bad news if this is true.

Project862006
02-24-2010, 03:09 PM
maybe Jason Segel should be the Flash
http://electricityandlust.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/jason-segel.jpg

TheFuture
02-24-2010, 03:10 PM
Agreed. No reason why we can't have good looking and talented actor for the role of Cap. Some people are saying it's more important to have talent. Why can't we have both.

And IMO, Cap should be a damn handsome man.

Krazinski is handsome, just not pretty boy handsome. :oldrazz:

Webhead2006
02-24-2010, 03:10 PM
hopefully we will have the official word soon. but if the news is right that they are still testing these guys we probably wont hear it to end of the week/start of new week. if they are still looking to look at a few others like hedlund.

DocHoliday
02-24-2010, 03:10 PM
As I said the other day I have no problem with this. I'd rather sacrifice a bit of the look of the character than cast someone who cannot act well.

afan
02-24-2010, 03:11 PM
No, it's because I don't think a pretty boy Captain America will transfer well onto the big screen. Every man, woman and child should want to get behind Cap as THE leader, with a guy like Krasinski you've got a better chance of that happening than with the rest of them up for the role.


Krasinski does not look like a leader.
http://emrlds.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/krasinski_interview0003.jpg

Changeling
02-24-2010, 03:11 PM
This is such a perfect choice. I couldnt see it being believable for some twenty something underwear model pretty boy to lead the Avengers, but John Krasinski is a pretty decently sized star, and he's established himself as a great actor. I love the choice, bulk him up a little and dye his hair and youve got a great Cap.

mclay18
02-24-2010, 03:11 PM
Bad news if this is true.

Why? I like some of the candidates Johnston and Marvel have lined up -- like Vogel, Krasinski and Porter. Not so sure about Crawford and the others.

SuperTidus
02-24-2010, 03:12 PM
I always picture People who complain about pretty boy/Calvin Klein model looking actots as these jealous/easily sexually threatened guys. People realize that Cap is supposed to look good.

And as far as Charisma/personality goes: Vogel, Hedlund, and Porter all have loads of that as evidenced by alot of their works

Sexually-threatened? Sure, he's banging Emily Blunt. Why wouldn't I be?

But still Krasinski is not a bad looking guy, I'm just saying the guy is a good actor and I feel safe with someone with good acting skills.

Also, would I like a guy like Ackles to be Cap over Krasinski? Hells Yes, I would. Because he's got both the looks and the acting prowess. But of the list, I'm taking Krasinski. My opinion.:oldrazz:

HUMANIMAL
02-24-2010, 03:15 PM
superman is the only hero i can think of who should look handsome...well thor maybe too cause he isnt from this world. all others should look charismatic and not handsome (humanly i guess) especially when it comes to movies imo.

Project862006
02-24-2010, 03:15 PM
This is such a perfect choice. I couldnt see it being believable for some twenty something underwear model pretty boy to lead the Avengers, but John Krasinski is a pretty decently sized star, and he's established himself as a great actor. I love the choice, bulk him up a little and dye his hair and youve got a great Cap.

No one here is asking for such a thing people here are suggesting people like ackles/porter/hedlund/macpartlin/etc.Those are not pretty boy underwear models they are guys who look like Steve Rogers but also got the acting chop to go with it.

Son of Coul
02-24-2010, 03:19 PM
It's not that I'm "sexually threatened" by the pretty boy actors, that doesn't even really make sense, like they're going to steal all the good-looking actresses I'd otherwise be dating? I don't mind an attractive hero, RDJ is perfect as Stark and he's ****ing sexy as hell. Yeah I said it.

Krasinski looks like far more of a leader than any of the other guys, and it's not like he's ugly or anything. It just makes more sense to have the classic oldschool 40s guy NOT be a pretty boy. I look at my grandfather's old war pictures and they sure as hell were no pretty boys.

Aesop Rocks
02-24-2010, 03:20 PM
The thing about John Krasinski is simply that everyone almost instantly thinks of the goofy Jim Halpert character. I know I did. Then I watched Away We Go which is a very dramatic role. One he was amazing in. I'm slowly growing for him as Cap, but if he's not cast I won't throw a ***** fit.

TheFuture
02-24-2010, 03:21 PM
Krasinski does not look like a leader.


Just because he looks a little dorky makes him not fit to be a leader? That is quite a superficial view IMO, being a leader is about a lot more than just looking good. He needs to be humble and have endearing qualities. He needs to have a touch of "the everyman" about him. Plus, you picked a crappy picture :cwink:;

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kvr9png50t1qa2x7v.jpg

SuperTidus
02-24-2010, 03:21 PM
Krasinski does not look like a leader.
http://emrlds.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/krasinski_interview0003.jpg

You're right. He doesn't look like a leader. In fact, he could pass as just another WWII soldier, right? But that's the beauty I see!
This is Steve Rogers pre-super soldier serum. Just a skinny, normal dare I say "doofy" kid who couldn't make the squad. Bulk him up via the serum, and we could see a transformation that makes him the leader Cap is.

Nirvana
02-24-2010, 03:21 PM
Of all the contenders, John Krasinski is my favorite and I believe he can pull it off.

Nirvana
02-24-2010, 03:22 PM
Of all the contenders, John Krasinski is my favorite and I believe he can pull it off.

Double Down
02-24-2010, 03:22 PM
http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy226/itsjustmovies/john-krasinski-10426-1.jpg

:up:

Compi716
02-24-2010, 03:23 PM
Ha, look at them, they all look like pretty boys bar Krasinski, for that alone he gets my vote. I think this could work amazingly well, we're talking about Captain America here, one of us average joes who got a chance of a lifetime. I would BELIEVE in Krasinski as Steve Rogers, he looks like the type of guy that you'd you want to support because he's one of your own. The rest of them just look like unrelatable pretty boys.
Agreed 100%

The thing with the casting of those heroes(RDJ, Bale, Jackman) those guys are extremely good looking. I like that in a hero, as is Ryan Reynolds and Chris Hemsworth. Krasinski on the other hand, he's just more goofy looking. Not bad looking but not on that level I like to see my superhero be. :woot:
I don't think RDJ was ever considered to be extremely good looking...

Look, the main thing with Cap is "relateability". He's a guy who couldn't cut it for the army, and was transformed into something greater. He's really just an average guy - less than average at the start, actually - who gets the chance to become something more. The actor needs to portray that, and there needs to be that visible vulnerability within him.

Look at some of the "CK model" actors. It sort of looks like they popped out of the womb that way. Krasinski seems like the kind of guy who, if he was in incredible shape, would give off the impression that he earned it, while still maintaining the confidence he needs.

And he's not a bad looking guy either. There's a reason why the "Women of 'The Office'" all like him.

Son of Coul
02-24-2010, 03:24 PM
You're right. He doesn't look like a leader. In fact, he could pass as just another WWII soldier, right? But that's the beauty I see!
This is Steve Rogers pre-super soldier serum. Just a skinny, normal dare I say "doofy" kid who couldn't make the squad. Bulk him up via the serum, and we could see a transformation that makes him the leader Cap is.
This exactly, in fact I could see that picture coming straight from a WWII soldier right before war, historical clothing accuracies aside.

batdude
02-24-2010, 03:24 PM
I'd really rather Ackles did it. None of these guys really do it for me.Just not feeling it guys.

danger
02-24-2010, 03:25 PM
I don't know if people looked different during the 1940's, but he definitely looks the part...
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/1429/john3.jpg
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4631/82319192.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/783/johnkrasinski3708.jpg

yeah, this guy isn't handsome at all

HUMANIMAL
02-24-2010, 03:28 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kvr9png50t1qa2x7v.jpg








its manip time :-)

Project862006
02-24-2010, 03:29 PM
but he looks nothing like Steve Rogers it is not like Steve Rogers is some unique looking dude

Krasinski is perfect for pre serum cap thats about it imo

blinkuldhc
02-24-2010, 03:29 PM
I think it's hilarious that some posters are lukewarm or even critical of krasinski's looks. The man is good looking, no h0mo. He has been on the Most Beautiful People list for the last 4 years and was named sexiest groom. Sure, he's not conventionally good looking like mcpartlin or hedlund, but I think that's a good thing. His look is less forgettable than the cookie cutter guys.

He looks like a handsome 1940s man, instead of a "hot" surfer guy that many fans seem to be enamored with (like mcpartlin, ackles, Buckley).

At this point, fans seem too worried about his face, which I think is ridiculous. He is a bona fide actor, not a model dabbling in acting. He's got the deep commanding voice, the statuesque presence, and the acting experience.

Heath ledger redefined joker and made the character his own, I trust that krasinski will do the same. I'd rather see a real world depiction of steve Rogers, rather than a carbon copy emulation of a comic book drawing come to life.

Nirvana
02-24-2010, 03:30 PM
Okay, I'm sold on Krasinski. :up:

Project862006
02-24-2010, 03:32 PM
joker also had green hair and clown face paint and 99% of the time you couldn't even tell it was heath's face

Son of Coul
02-24-2010, 03:32 PM
Totally agreed with Compi on relatability. He portrays an everyman on The Office and that's probably one of the reasons he was considered in the first place. I would very honestly feel very distanced if Rogers was some beautiful teen heartthrob, but with JK you feel like it could happen to a normal guy like you, which is part of what's so fun about the Cap character. When I look at the others I just don't buy them not making the cut in the army and being all down because they can't serve their country and forming strong political and moral values and stuff.