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That I don't agree with your assesment of cuting JK's hair and giving him contacts would make him a perfect Cap.
All I said is that he would look like Captain America. I have never claimed that he was 'perfect', unlike others who say that because he doesn't look enough like him that automatically makes him the worst choice.
C. Lee
03-02-2010, 03:38 PM
All I said is that he would look like Captain America. I have never claimed that he was 'perfect', unlike others who say that because he doesn't look enough like him that automatically makes him the worst choice.
Excuse me for putting the word "pefect" in there....does this work better for you - I don't think that cutting his hair and putting in contacts makes him look like Cap at all.
RetroNaz
03-02-2010, 03:45 PM
lol this JK = Cap talk just brings out the best (or is it worst?) in everyone :hehe:
:fhm:
C. Lee
03-02-2010, 03:46 PM
To each his own.
But there's no doubt there is potential for much awesomeness in this film. I'm looking forward to seeing the rumored cameos on screen! :up:
I don't know your situation....but I am strapped financially at this time....going to the theater is a major expense for me (at least 40 mile round trip among the expenses)...so I rarely go these days. I am more willing to spend 5 bucks to rent a DVD than 40 for me and my wife to go to the theater.
RetroNaz
03-02-2010, 03:50 PM
I don't know your situation....but I am strapped financially at this time....going to the theater is a major expense for me (at least 40 mile round trip among the expenses)...so I rarely go these days. I am more willing to spend 5 bucks to rent a DVD than 40 for me and my wife to go to the theater.
Fiance and I rarely go. Infact we're using movie tickets we got for our engagement party which was early this year for IM2. But we'll find someway to catch the Captain on screen.
flickchick85
03-02-2010, 03:55 PM
C. Lee, wouldn't it be wiser to just wait for reviews and base your theater-going decisions on how good the movie is, rather than on how much the lead actor looks like a drawing of the character he's playing?
RetroNaz
03-02-2010, 03:58 PM
...He might not even get the role too.
flickchick85
03-02-2010, 04:00 PM
...He might not even get the role too.
Well I realize that, I'm just speaking hypothetically here.
Excuse me for putting the word "pefect" in there....does this work better for you - I don't think that cutting his hair and putting in contacts makes him look like Cap at all.Okay then. I disagree.
RetroNaz
03-02-2010, 04:04 PM
Well I realize that, I'm just speaking hypothetically here.
Yeah I know, it was meant more as a side salad to your post. Not trying to pick it :)
Brian Braddock
03-02-2010, 04:09 PM
I don't know your situation....but I am strapped financially at this time....going to the theater is a major expense for me (at least 40 mile round trip among the expenses)...so I rarely go these days. I am more willing to spend 5 bucks to rent a DVD than 40 for me and my wife to go to the theater.
:wow:
Man, that truly sucks.
After reading that, I dont think I'll be taking going to the cinema for granted for some time. I hope there's an upturn in your circumstances, C.Lee.
Reminds me of a poster on another thread a while back saying that he didnt have a cinema in his country (!!!), and so couldnt see films on the cinema, period (for the life of me, I cant recall what that country was).
Just goes to show that there's always somebody worse off than yourself, I guess. Scant consolation, I know..............
Rock Sexton
03-02-2010, 04:25 PM
:wow:
Man, that truly sucks.
After reading that, I dont think I'll be taking going to the cinema for granted for some time. I hope there's an upturn in your circumstances, C.Lee.
Reminds me of a poster on another thread a while back saying that he didnt have a cinema in his country (!!!), and so couldnt see films on the cinema, period (for the life of me, I cant recall what that country was).
Just goes to show that there's always somebody worse off than yourself, I guess. Scant consolation, I know..............
There's so much dog scat in the theaters that I barely go either. Don't get me wrong though, I love the theater experience and it's one of my most favorite things in life. Yet, I will not waste it on a good majority of the crap Hollywood sucks away our money with.
Rock Sexton
03-02-2010, 04:29 PM
And there's where people obsessing over things comes in. I didn't say anything about Krasinski....I actually said that I thought about Qualls playing pre super soldier formula Steve several YEARS ago....because he looks so 4F to begin with, he can be changed into any actor by the formula.
I didn't mean that you did. I was being sarcastic. I personally do not like the Kasinski choice at all. Can't stand it actually. But Qualls looks like him if he went anorexic.
flickchick85
03-02-2010, 04:29 PM
Yeah I know, it was meant more as a side salad to your post. Not trying to pick it :)
Ah I gotcha, no worries. :yay:
Rock Sexton
03-02-2010, 04:35 PM
It usually goes like this:
1. Krasinski nails the role, naysayers end up liking him. Act as if they never doubted him.
2. Krasinski nails the role, some naysayers are still against him because he wasn't their choice.
3. Krasinski is mediocre, naysayers either exaggerate his bad points or say he wasn't as bad as originally thought.
4. Krasinski is awful, naysayers crucify him and he will be hated by the fandom forever.
1. Krasinski doesn't nail the role, lovers end up jumping off a bridge.
2. Krasinski is mediocre, lovers make every excuse in the book for why everyone else is a hater.
3. Krasinski is awful, lovers will burn all their Krasinski memorabilia and pretend to have never known the guy or recommended him.
Docker2.0
03-02-2010, 04:37 PM
It's called hyperbole. Taking an extreme example to prove a point. Exaggerating.
The same tactic used when Ed Norton was brought up. I just thought I'd point out the irrelevancy of such rhetoric. But on the other hand if it flips a switch for you? Fine.
No.
Steve was nothing and then he became something. Steve went from 90 pound weakling to Charles Atlas. An Aryan Übermensch and charismatic leader who is an example to all the grunts who serve and die for him.
Janet Van Dyne would describe Cap and Thor as "dreamy" and "gorgeous". I've never heard him described as run-of-the-mill.
First of all... who said it's "all about the looks"? I want a good actor too. Are you saying that there is such a shortage of good looking good actors that the only course of action is to cast this guy who is totally opposite of the description of Steve Rogers? Because if that's the case then it's a sad day in film history.
As for Cap's symbolism... yeah. I know all about him. He's a paragon. He's better than you. And he took a serum to make sure of that. You know why? To stop the Nazis. Brilliant and pure.
As for hair color and contacts.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/Fantastic%20Four/Cast/6a00cdf39d6877cb8f00d4143ddc65685e-.jpg
We've seen how that works out.
More toned face? You mean going under the knife?
No. I won't. Cause he doesn't.
Dude. I don't know what comic books you've read, but they ain't Captain America.
Captain America is a hunk.
:cap: :cap: :cap: Preach!!!
LOL. I love how some people state that working out will help with JK's look. How is that going to fix his face? :huh:
It can't. I just can't understand how the heck people can see Cap in JK but can't it in Porter or any other actor that at least has the Cap look. :huh:
PumpkinBombxXx
03-02-2010, 04:47 PM
Marvel hasnt let us down yet (at least not with there own movies). So even thoe i will be bummed if JK gets it i figure it will still be good. However i feel that the only reason he would be considered for the part would be because the casting director is a huge fan of the office. I mean they screened hundreds if not thousands of people and they narrow it down to him, I enjoy his work but come on really. If this is not the case then he must have something special for this role because he is such an odd choice. Im guessing if he does get the role we will all be pleasently suprised
Ok ive changed my mind on JK he actually would make a good Cap. if you check out the photos in the manips thread flickchick posted some really good ones that i think you really can see steve rogers in them. He is now my number 1 choice. Im just so used to seeing him in the office
TikkiEXX
03-02-2010, 05:05 PM
Marvel hasnt let us down yet (at least not with there own movies). So even thoe i will be bummed if JK gets it i figure it will still be good. However i feel that the only reason he would be considered for the part would be because the casting director is a huge fan of the office. I mean they screened hundreds if not thousands of people and they narrow it down to him, I enjoy his work but come on really. If this is not the case then he must have something special for this role because he is such an odd choice. Im guessing if he does get the role we will all be pleasently suprised
i see what youre saying but that wouldnt be a very professional reason to cast someone. just because he,s a fan of The Office? thats not a very good reason to risk your job and reputation just because you like a TV show. but im sure they analysed his performance in The Office and whatever other movies he was in. and theres no way theyre giving anyone this part unless they have a good screentest and all that. if he really is at the top of the list(which is very debatable) he earned it just like if its Porter or Hedlund or whoever ends up with the part.
TikkiEXX
03-02-2010, 05:11 PM
Flickchick posted some good pics of John K. over in the manip thread that i hadnt seen before. they probably wont change anyones mind about him in the role but at least he doesnt look like a goof in them. no cheese eating grin or anything. lol
PumpkinBombxXx
03-02-2010, 05:11 PM
Sometimes thoe the director of a film cast someone just cause they want to work with them, say most movies from Quentin tarantino. Im not saying this is the case but it seemed like such an odd choice at first. gradually ive come around to JK as cap and actually hope he gets it
TikkiEXX
03-02-2010, 05:15 PM
Sometimes thoe the director of a film cast someone just cause they want to work with them, say most movies from Quentin tarantino. Im not saying this is the case but it seemed like such an odd choice at first. gradually ive come around to JK as cap and actually hope he gets it
yeah i saw your post in the Manip thread. those were some pretty convincing pics, lol. youre right some directors do seem to be almost fanboys for certain actors and actresses. i just cant recall JJ and Krasinsky ever working on anything together but its definately a possibility.
SpiderByte
03-02-2010, 05:17 PM
Screen tests were last week, if I remember, so probably in the next two weeks. They still need to get the rest of the cast.
Project862006
03-02-2010, 05:21 PM
Daniel Day Lewis needs to get off his thespian actor high chair and do a comic book movie like be the red skull
Rock Sexton
03-02-2010, 05:24 PM
Marvel hasnt let us down yet (at least not with there own movies). So even thoe i will be bummed if JK gets it i figure it will still be good. However i feel that the only reason he would be considered for the part would be because the casting director is a huge fan of the office. I mean they screened hundreds if not thousands of people and they narrow it down to him, I enjoy his work but come on really. If this is not the case then he must have something special for this role because he is such an odd choice. Im guessing if he does get the role we will all be pleasently suprised
Ok ive changed my mind on JK he actually would make a good Cap. if you check out the photos in the manips thread flickchick posted some really good ones that i think you really can see steve rogers in them. He is now my number 1 choice. Im just so used to seeing him in the office
Actually the screening possibilities were already hamstrung when all they offered was a pack of bubble gum and the eternity of a 9 picture deal.
redlion2
03-02-2010, 05:58 PM
Daniel Day Lewis needs to get off his thespian actor high chair and do a comic book movie like be the red skull
Now I would love to see that.
BETArayBill
03-02-2010, 06:24 PM
Daniel Day Lewis needs to get off his thespian actor high chair and do a comic book movie like be the red skull
after 9 red skull should be his penace
louiebling$
03-02-2010, 07:21 PM
I come in here everyday hoping that every time I click on this thread I will get some type of news but nope just JK bickering.
echostation
03-02-2010, 07:28 PM
Joe Krakatowa looks nothing like the American Captain or as more pronouncedly referenced Captain American, sorry but there's nothing even remotely resembling a good classic Kirby Steve Rogers look which is how I think the actor who plays the role should look, I know looks aren't everything but still Krasinsky is still way off the mark in terms of looks, in that sense the Supernatural actor looks much better role the role but probably won't get it cuz of scheduling difficulties
And in light of this whole blue and Tron debate, this film won't have that trouble, there is only ONE COSTUMED HUMAN FIGURE in dull blue or turquoise costume with Red White and a shield, ONLY ONE, TOTALLY DIFFERENT from the upcoming failure of of Tran 2 film as that is sequel of a box office and critical bomb AND most people don't know TRON AND the characters in that are MULTIPLE WEARING BLUE, see MULTIPLE CHARACTERS BLUE in that upcoming film and BRIGHT SHINING FLUORESCENT GLOWING BLUE,
Captain American's costume won't have lights or glowing features unless Tim Burton directed it (good one haha I know humoar), Tron 2 fail costumes have bright glowing lights with multiple people in blue AVATARESQUE VIRTUAL REALITY like the film Avatar, so that's big difference and that's why this film will succeed but no Tron 2 failure... yes good make sequel on film which was ages ago bomb and critical flop... getz reals
Coming back to main thread as above comments have ended all debate...I still think the others listed even Scott Porter would be better than Kraziknsky, what is so talented about him? too big ears, face looks chubby, looks like he'd be good for... NOTHING haha, just kidding, no just not good for this role, I'm sure he'd be great for something like Iron Fist or Dagger from Cloak and Dagger comic.
SpiderByte
03-02-2010, 07:28 PM
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii289/SpiderByte_photo/cap1.jpg
That would not be that horrible.
C. Lee
03-02-2010, 07:35 PM
C. Lee, wouldn't it be wiser to just wait for reviews and base your theater-going decisions on how good the movie is, rather than on how much the lead actor looks like a drawing of the character he's playing?
It might be if I based my movie attendance solely on what other people think.....but as I said in an earlier post...there many things that determine if I will take the time and expense to go to the theater.
Deaths Head II
03-02-2010, 07:36 PM
I come in here everyday hoping that every time I click on this thread I will get some type of news but nope just JK bickering.
I know the feeling.
After looking at the pics in the manip thread, and watching various videos of Kras, I don't understand how anyone can think the guy is goofy looking. He's such an incredibly hansom man.
flickchick85
03-02-2010, 08:11 PM
It might be if I based my movie attendance solely on what other people think.....but as I said in an earlier post...there many things that determine if I will take the time and expense to go to the theater.
Fair enough, but just to be clear, what I meant was that if people liked the movie AND every indication (including the trailers, clips, etc) was that it's a good movie...would you still stay away because you don't like what the lead actor looks like?
Again, I'm not saying JK would be the perfect choice. As I've said, I agree with those who say it could either turn out to be a disaster or an inspired choice. I'm just willing to give him the benefit of the doubt (until given reason to do otherwise) and keep an open mind about it, and I'm trying to understand those who aren't. But I've still got my fingers crossed that it ends up being no one off this list.
Rock Sexton
03-02-2010, 08:34 PM
Marvel.....seriously..... just make it easy on yourselves and offer a quality contract instead of a 9 picture poison pill. That way you can cast Ryan McPartlin.....
"Captain Awesome"
For
"Captain America"
http://members.cox.net/rocksexton/captain3.jpg
Son of Coul
03-02-2010, 08:38 PM
heh, talk about chubby faces...
Rock Sexton
03-02-2010, 08:41 PM
heh, talk about chubby faces...
Rigggggght..........
http://z.about.com/d/mensfashion/1/0/j/c/RyanMcPartlin.jpg
Put your glasses back on.
Son of Coul
03-02-2010, 08:44 PM
It's undeniable he looks more like Cap than JK, but to put up a manip that makes his head look so damn fat is just kinda funny after all the complaints about JK's "chubby face".
SpiderByte
03-02-2010, 08:52 PM
Marvel.....seriously..... just make it easy on yourselves and offer a quality contract instead of a 9 picture poison pill. That way you can cast Ryan McPartlin.....
"Captain Awesome"
For
"Captain America"
http://members.cox.net/rocksexton/captain3.jpg
Yet you accuse KRASINSKI of chubbyness?
Your manipping skills must be terrible, if you stretched out the actors face to fit the mask. You shoulda changed the MASK to fit the FACE.
Parker Wayne
03-02-2010, 08:54 PM
McPatlin's not chubby in the face. It's just a terrible manip.
Rock Sexton
03-02-2010, 08:54 PM
Yet you accuse KRASINSKI of chubbyness?
Once again, if you think this is chubby face:
http://z.about.com/d/mensfashion/1/0/j/c/RyanMcPartlin.jpg
Then head straight to the eye doc to get those dots checked.
SpiderByte
03-02-2010, 08:55 PM
It looks brighter that's it. Just accept your boy has a puffy, beer face. lol.
You maniped your actor for that pic. In a way that it doesn't look bull**** like him.
Rock Sexton
03-02-2010, 08:57 PM
McPatlin's not chubby in the face. It's just a terrible manip.
I'll fix it so you guys can wipe your tears.
SpiderByte
03-02-2010, 08:57 PM
I used Cas' pic as the base, put Krasinski there.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii289/SpiderByte_photo/cap4copy.jpg
SpiderByte
03-02-2010, 09:00 PM
Once again, if you think this is chubby face:
http://z.about.com/d/mensfashion/1/0/j/c/RyanMcPartlin.jpg
Then head straight to the eye doc to get those dots checked.
Are you *****ing BLIND?!
http://members.cox.net/rocksexton/captain3.jpg
LOOK!
This dude's cheeks are clearly filled out. The pic you just posted: Not so much.
There is little resemblance between them, other than that they're white.
Oh, and the wings look like devil horns.
blinkuldhc
03-02-2010, 09:01 PM
Because krasinski is the most unlike everyone else on the list, I have to think he's gonna be the one cast.
Son of Coul
03-02-2010, 09:04 PM
I'll fix it so you guys can wipe your tears
:whatever: Who's crying?
Are you *****ing BLIND?!
http://members.cox.net/rocksexton/captain3.jpg
LOOK!
This dude's cheeks are clearly filled out. The pic you just posted: Not so much.
There is little resemblance between them, other than that they're white.
Oh, and the wings look like devil horns.
It's the same pic, he just messed with the original proportion for some reason and it made his neck look stubbier and fatter.
SpiderByte
03-02-2010, 09:10 PM
I made in five seconds a better manip than you did with the same picture. I used only two tools on it.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii289/SpiderByte_photo/RyanMcPartlin.jpg
And it resembles the original actor, unlike your McPufflin.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii289/SpiderByte_photo/captain3.jpg
Deaths Head II
03-02-2010, 09:14 PM
Edit: Nevermind.
SpiderByte
03-02-2010, 09:16 PM
The nine picture deal was for Sam Jackson, anyway.
SpiderByte
03-02-2010, 09:39 PM
And, as final, absolute proof, that an actor that barely resembles the character he is chosen to play can still be great, I would like to show you THIS:
http://eyeheartglasses.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/zachary_quinto_getty.jpg
This man:
Became THIS:
http://www.kimberlychong.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/spock_zachary_quinto.jpg
SpiderByte
03-02-2010, 09:43 PM
Because krasinski is the most unlike everyone else on the list, I have to think he's gonna be the one cast.
That's one of the reasons for me, too. :cwink:
Project862006
03-02-2010, 09:44 PM
you mean a hair cut and prosthetic ears lol
TikkiEXX
03-02-2010, 09:45 PM
Marvel.....seriously..... just make it easy on yourselves and offer a quality contract instead of a 9 picture poison pill. That way you can cast Ryan McPartlin.....
"Captain Awesome"
For
"Captain America"
http://members.cox.net/rocksexton/captain3.jpg
screw McPartlin. lol. hes more of a nobody than Krasinsky. if he wasnt doing that WB show im sure hed be in the mix. if money was no object then why not Pine or Damon? they can act circles around that dude. lol
OptimusPrime114
03-02-2010, 09:46 PM
And, as final, absolute proof, that an actor that barely resembles the character he is chosen to play can still be great, I would like to show you THIS:
http://eyeheartglasses.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/zachary_quinto_getty.jpg
This man:
Became THIS:
http://www.kimberlychong.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/spock_zachary_quinto.jpg
Nice example. Although they're gonna say nay.
Project862006
03-02-2010, 09:49 PM
not much of a change 3 steps.
step1/shave
step2/get a hair cut/wig
step3/prosthetic ears
OptimusPrime114
03-02-2010, 09:53 PM
not much of a change 3 steps.
step1/shave
step2/get a hair cut/wig
step3/prosthetic ears
Nevertheless, Zach Q. knew what he had to do to look like Spock.
So if John gets casted, he knows what he has to do.
Majik1387
03-02-2010, 10:10 PM
And, as final, absolute proof, that an actor that barely resembles the character he is chosen to play can still be great, I would like to show you THIS:
http://eyeheartglasses.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/zachary_quinto_getty.jpg
This man:
Became THIS:
http://www.kimberlychong.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/spock_zachary_quinto.jpg
Are you serious with this ****? :doh:
Rock Sexton
03-02-2010, 10:13 PM
Re-do ..... so my buddy's don't confuse him for John Krasinksiwhosamawhatsit....
http://members.cox.net/rocksexton/captain5.jpg
jab1118
03-02-2010, 10:14 PM
I get that krasinski doesn't look like Steve but the people on here saying he is ugly or looks like he has down sydrome are just playing redicules. He clearly a very handsome guy. It kind of reminds me of when I get into sports arguments like who's better Tom Brady or Peyton manning and by the end of the fight somebody is saying peyton manning sucks at football or will never be good and vise versa. First Krasinki doesn't look like Cap and now he's basically Steve Bushemi
Rock Sexton
03-02-2010, 10:20 PM
I made in five seconds a better manip than you did with the same picture. I used only two tools on it.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii289/SpiderByte_photo/RyanMcPartlin.jpg
To Helen Keller and Stevie Wonder maybe.....
Wolvieboy17
03-02-2010, 10:22 PM
Re-do ..... so my buddy's don't confuse him for John Krasinksiwhosamawhatsit....
Seriously? A joke about JK being an unknown, when you're suggesting Ryan McPartlin for the role?
Rock Sexton
03-02-2010, 10:24 PM
Seriously? A joke about JK being an unknown, when you're suggesting Ryan McPartlin for the role?
It's more of a reference to how supposedly "critically acclaimed" the Krasinski clan makes his acting out to be.
Rock Sexton
03-02-2010, 10:25 PM
I get that krasinski doesn't look like Steve but the people on here saying he is ugly or looks like he has down sydrome are just playing redicules. He clearly a very handsome guy. It kind of reminds me of when I get into sports arguments like who's better Tom Brady or Peyton manning and by the end of the fight somebody is saying peyton manning sucks at football or will never be good and vise versa. First Krasinki doesn't look like Cap and now he's basically Steve Bushemi
No. I did not say he looks like he has down syndrome in real life. I was referring to the manip someody made with his forehead enlarged like Timmy from South Park.
One person's trash is another person's treasure. You apparently find him to be an attractive man. Some of us don't. None of which is absolute, however looking like Steve Rogers he does not. Now that is absolute.
C. Lee
03-02-2010, 10:29 PM
Last warning everyone. I just deleted 10 stupid offensive posts. Next time I will delete the post makers too.
Majik1387
03-02-2010, 10:34 PM
Hi C. Lee. :indy:
TikkiEXX
03-02-2010, 10:41 PM
Mods are working overtime in this thread. just goes to show that people care...a little bit too much. lol
C. Lee
03-02-2010, 10:41 PM
Hi Maj.
Deaths Head II
03-02-2010, 10:44 PM
I can't wait to see this place explode when the final decision is made. http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/Deaths_Head_II/Smilies/emot-c00lbert.gif
Wolvieboy17
03-02-2010, 10:45 PM
It's more of a reference to how supposedly "critically acclaimed" the Krasinski clan makes his acting out to be.
No ones claiming he's Al Pacino, but when you compare him to the other contenders (and Ryan freakin McPartlin), as far as i'm concerned, he's Marlon Bloody Brando lol
jab1118
03-02-2010, 10:51 PM
No. I did not say he looks like he has down syndrome in real life. I was referring to the manip someody made with his forehead enlarged like Timmy from South Park.
One person's trash is another person's treasure. You apparently find him to be an attractive man. Some of us don't. None of which is absolute, however looking like Steve Rogers he does not. Now that is absolute.
Sorry I guess I read through your post to quickly this thread is hard to keep up with anymore. But still I cant see how anyone can say hes ugly he aint brad pitt but he is a leading man and there are no ugly leading men out there especially not getting cast competing for the same chick as Clooney.
Rock Sexton
03-02-2010, 10:54 PM
No ones claiming he's Al Pacino, but when you compare him to the other contenders (and Ryan freakin McPartlin), as far as i'm concerned, he's Marlon Bloody Brando lol
How do you figure? We're talking about network TV guys, aside from a bit part and an indie movie that Kasinski was in.
His acting skills are highly exaggerated on here. I'm not saying he's a turd of an actor, but the way guys are gloating over his "everyman" and how "likeable" .... :barf:
When I watched McPartlin in "Chuck" it made sense to me that he should be a Captain candidate. I mean the character "Mr. Awesome" is the guy everyone wants to be like, nearly perfect in every way. Me personally, this is the closest thing I've seen portrayed to Captain America by any of these guys we've all talked about.
Rock Sexton
03-02-2010, 10:58 PM
Sorry I guess I read through your post to quickly this thread is hard to keep up with anymore. But still I cant see how anyone can say hes ugly he aint brad pitt but he is a leading man and there are no ugly leading men out there especially not getting cast competing for the same chick as Clooney.
Happens a lot on here when the bullets start flying and arguments get twisted and confused. lol.
I don't think he's ugly. I think he's very dopey looking. I'm just being honest. People can crucify me all they want to or take it personally like I'm calling "them" ugly.
RetroNaz
03-02-2010, 11:05 PM
How do you figure? We're talking about network TV guys, aside from a bit part and an indie movie that Kasinski was in.
His acting skills are highly exaggerated on here. I'm not saying he's a turd of an actor, but the way guys are gloating over his "everyman" and how "likeable" .... :barf:
When I watched McPartlin in "Chuck" it made sense to me that he should be a Captain candidate. I mean the character "Mr. Awesome" is the guy everyone wants to be like, nearly perfect in every way. Me personally, this is the closest thing I've seen portrayed to Captain America by any of these guys we've all talked about.
Rock Sexton,
There was no gloating on my behalf of his everyman or likeable qualities. I was the one that originally brought these up as a way of identifying what potential traits we could see in his version of Captain America.
I would appreciate if you keep these comments to yourself as they don't help your argument in any way and only make you out to look somewhat aggressive. And it's not fair to paint an incorrect picture of me on here as I'm far from that type of person.
I can appreciate that you want McPartlin for the role, I think he is a good candidate and has a strong change of scoring the role, but please keep the non constructive talk out of it. I'll do my bit from my end too.
Rock Sexton
03-02-2010, 11:08 PM
Rock Sexton,
There was no gloating on my behalf of his everyman or likeable qualities. I was the one that originally brought these up as a way of identifying what potential traits we could see in his version of Captain America.
I would appreciate if you keep these comments to yourself as they don't help your argument in any way and only make you out to look somewhat aggressive. And it's not fair to paint an incorrect picture of me on here as I'm far from that type of person.
I can appreciate that you want McPartlin for the role, I think he is a good candidate and has a strong change of scoring the role, but please keep the non constructive talk out of it. I'll do my bit from my end too.
Have I mentioned your name at all in ANY of my posts? Don't act so guilty.
RetroNaz
03-02-2010, 11:26 PM
Have I mentioned your name at all in ANY of my posts? Don't act so guilty.
"but the way guys are gloating over his "everyman" and how "likeable" .... :barf:" is what you wrote. I was one of the guys (and THE guy that started it) so I can assume your general dig was pointed towards me - among others.
I'm not guilty when the posts speak for themselves. That's all I'll say on the matter, I'll let you get back to what it is you're doing.
Rock Sexton
03-02-2010, 11:37 PM
"but the way guys are gloating over his "everyman" and how "likeable" .... :barf:" is what you wrote. I was one of the guys (and THE guy that started it) so I can assume your general dig was pointed towards me - among others.
I'm not guilty when the posts speak for themselves. That's all I'll say on the matter, I'll let you get back to what it is you're doing.
I don't call individual posters out unless provoked. Again, if I wanted to make it personal between you and I would take it to PM's.
And I stand by my comments, no matter how much you don't agree with my descriptors. My God, you act like not a shred of sarcasm exists on this site unless I post. :doh:
So anyway, Captain America..........
RetroNaz
03-02-2010, 11:44 PM
I saw this and got a laugh out of it, think you guys might do the same:
http://www.jossip.com/wp/docs/2009/01/6-faces-john-krasinski.jpg
Spider-Fan
03-02-2010, 11:57 PM
This JK debate has gotten so...boring
I'm just waiting for a casting announcement now.
RetroNaz
03-03-2010, 12:01 AM
I don't call individual posters out unless provoked. Again, if I wanted to make it personal between you and I would take it to PM's.
And I stand by my comments, no matter how much you don't agree with my descriptors. My God, you act like not a shred of sarcasm exists on this site unless I post. :doh:
So anyway, Captain America..........
Well I don't know you, and I don't know what your posting protocol is, so to be fair without that knowledge it simply looked like you were having a dig at me. Plus reading back on previous posts where you spoke up about other things I had written I assumed you saw me simply as one of these "Krasinski lovers".
For the record I'm not. I'm just open to the idea.
And no, I don't act like sarcasm doesn't exist in here. I've made sure that I've addressed this issue appropriately without resorting to any of it because to be honest I found the initial accusation to be offensive.
That's all. If that was not your intentions, then glad it's sorted.
As you were.
RetroNaz
03-03-2010, 12:02 AM
This JK debate has gotten so...boring
I'm just waiting for a casting announcement now.
Same. Or atleast a new name for people to pick at.
Same. Or atleast a new name for people to pick at.
Maybe I could start a rumor about Zac Efron being a finalist for the role. Then everyone would be united again! :funny:
Truth be told Crawford and Efron look errily alike IMO
louiebling$
03-03-2010, 12:34 AM
I can't wait to see this place explode when the final decision is made. http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/Deaths_Head_II/Smilies/emot-c00lbert.gif
O yea... it will be a sight to see... I'm just gonna sit back brab some popcorn and enjoy the show I know for a fact this is waht I will look like when viewing this thread :
:dry:
:applaud
And :lmao:
^You forgot :huh: and :doh:
flickchick85
03-03-2010, 12:46 AM
This JK debate has gotten so...boring
I'm just waiting for a casting announcement now.
Ditto. I'm gonna laugh (and possibly rejoice) if it's someone NOT on the list. The ones we were divided over before, like McPartlin, Ackles, etc...now would probably be considered a blessing by most of those who were opposed to them before. At least, I know I for one am starting to feel a strange and sudden longing for Ackles to be in the race, and I NEVER supported him before.
And if that were to turn out to be the case, then this whole list would have been a rather brilliant move by Marvel to unite us behind their choice, wouldn't it? A variation on the Hornberger Method, perhaps? :hehe:
Deaths Head II
03-03-2010, 12:58 AM
O yea... it will be a sight to see... I'm just gonna sit back brab some popcorn and enjoy the show I know for a fact this is waht I will look like when viewing this thread :
:dry:
:applaud
And :lmao:
This will be my face.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/Deaths_Head_II/1267407029851.jpg?t=1267599458
Wolvieboy17
03-03-2010, 12:59 AM
How do you figure? We're talking about network TV guys, aside from a bit part and an indie movie that Kasinski was in.
His acting skills are highly exaggerated on here. I'm not saying he's a turd of an actor, but the way guys are gloating over his "everyman" and how "likeable" ....
When I watched McPartlin in "Chuck" it made sense to me that he should be a Captain candidate. I mean the character "Mr. Awesome" is the guy everyone wants to be like, nearly perfect in every way. Me personally, this is the closest thing I've seen portrayed to Captain America by any of these guys we've all talked about.
First of all, Krasinski has done more than one indie movie, he's played lead actor in several films, one of which was set in the 40's/50's, and he was perfect, and he's played a minor role in a war film, but thats besides the point.
The whole point of the likability and the 'everyman' quality (to use the word being bandied about) is that he has to simultaneously portray a natural born leader and also endear himself to the audience, and that wont happen with an actor who is, as so many people have put it, perfect. An audience needs a character with some human elements that they themselves can actually relate to. You can be the buffest, prettiest, fastest strongest guy in the world, but people need something in that persons character that they can believe, and the more unbelievable you make things about or around said character, the larger the vulnerability or human quality needs to be.
Whilst Cap as a character has all these perfections, he would never EVER describe himself as perfect. Thats what makes him a great character, he sees himself as just an average man, he doesn't put himself above his fellow soldiers. Now, I'm not saying krasinski is my perfect Cap because he isn't, but I think on the basis of portraying this important aspect of Caps personality, JK has shown that he can build up this sort of audience endearment better than the others... call me crazy, but I find him slightly more humble than say, someone who calls himself 'captain awesome'. I'm judging this solely by the other people on the list, but just remember... muscle mass can be gained, hair can be dyed, theres even an extent of control over how the face is portrayed through lighting, but the one thing you can't fake is presence. You either have it or you don't, and whilst i don't think anyone on that list has an overwhelming presence, JK is the only one that is actually interesting to look at. When you look at his face you actually see a person, a character, as opposed to looking into the bland face of a generic hunk, where you see very little other than the same type of face we've seen in Hollywood movies for the last 50 years.
Rock, what baffles me is that, JK aside, you seem to be arguing all the points of what Cap should be anyway... You seem to be angling just for a muscly handsome action hero type... If thats the way you see Captain America, then I feel sorry for you having missed the best and deepest aspects of his character.
RetroNaz
03-03-2010, 01:47 AM
Maybe I could start a rumor about Zac Efron being a finalist for the role. Then everyone would be united again! :funny:
Haha I tried it in the Superman casting thread.
Needless to say there was utter pandemonium.
jab1118
03-03-2010, 02:21 AM
Yeah at this point we need a rumor or confirmation this has turned into John is good hes a good actor and hes the everyman vs but he is dopey looking and looks nothing like steve thread. Nobody is really gonna be switching side anymore. Just either cast him so we can have the this movie will suck, no it won't fight or cast someone else. But get it ****ing done already
MegaDexx
03-03-2010, 02:54 AM
With all the banter there has been on here about the prospect of John K. as Cap, we've all definetly proven one thing. And that is that NO ONE else on that list of candidates OTHER than John Krasinski is even remotely interesting or relevant for that matter. From Vogel, Ackles, McPartlin, to Porter. Thinking about them in the role of Cap or even talking about them puts one to :sleepy:
And for good reason... their just not that interesting. Oh sure, they may have prettier faces, but is that enough to go by? None of these other guys are applealing to me in the role of Steve Rogers. Now was John K. someone I would have initially thought of for the role of Cap? No, of course not. But that's just it. Many times the best ideas are the ones not thought of right away, and sometimes they come out of left field and you strike gold. Take Robert Downey Jr. with Iron Man for example. Don't you think Marvel could have cast any pretty faced, handsome CW type, straight out of GQ magazine for that role? Sure they could have. Those guys are a dime a dozen in Hollywood. All models turned wanna be actor types. But they didn't. WHY??... because while not the straight out of GQ type, RDJ was far more TALENTED an actor, and was that much more interesting and appealing to the general audience. They knew he would also add PERSONALITY to the character of Tony Stark. And we all know how that has turned out.:up:
With John K. being considered for Cap makes perfect sense in this aspect. Sure they could give it to any of those other guys on the list, but really, how appealing are any of them, past the fact that oh maybe they look a little more like Cap cause their prettier? The prospect of John K as Cap holds much more appeal for me and alot of other peolple, mainly because like RDJ, he's just more interesting as an actor than those other guys mentioned.
Webhead2006
03-03-2010, 03:12 AM
Yea first for one we have no clue one way or another from any of the offical channels who is going to land the role. Or who ever has landed the role if he has been selected already. I for one cant wait to see who it ends up being. As i said before i am willing to give who ever it is a chance. And hope they will pull off a great cap.
As for looks as many stated, in john's case bulking up, training, thin out his face, dye hair/get cut. He could totally end up looking much differently then he does now in the office. Same goes for any of the other picks. We have no clue how they will end up training/bulking up, and other stuff to get preped for the film. Plus we have no clue how the USO and the battlefield costumes will look on said actors. So we will just have to wait and see.
As for marvel i am sure they will end up with the right choice in the end. Sure all the guys on the short list isnt that big of a deal. But thats the thing. They were not going to go with a big A list star. They want an unknown/semi known guy. Plus as i pointed out. The reason they are probably giving the guy a low pay, and getting him signed for multi picture deals. Is so they have him ready to go for avengers/avengers sequels, and cap solo films. Plus with already having Big A listers like robert, don, scarlet jo, gwen, sam jackson, and edward(if he is in). They want to probably off set the production cost. So having fixed pay rates for all the actors. So they are not blowing like 50+ million dollars just on the actors. When they will need alot of money for production cost things.
Then on a funny side note. It would be odd if chance got the role. That would be two actors from that stupid gossip girl show that would be in a big comic book movie for 2011. With blake getting the carol ferris role for green lantern and all that. So it would be funny if marvel did nab him. But i am not wanting him myself either. For me as i said i am rooting for porter, helund, and vogel. Then john as 4th.
Rock Sexton
03-03-2010, 03:35 AM
First of all, Krasinski has done more than one indie movie, he's played lead actor in several films, one of which was set in the 40's/50's, and he was perfect, and he's played a minor role in a war film, but thats besides the point.
The whole point of the likability and the 'everyman' quality (to use the word being bandied about) is that he has to simultaneously portray a natural born leader and also endear himself to the audience, and that wont happen with an actor who is, as so many people have put it, perfect. An audience needs a character with some human elements that they themselves can actually relate to. You can be the buffest, prettiest, fastest strongest guy in the world, but people need something in that persons character that they can believe, and the more unbelievable you make things about or around said character, the larger the vulnerability or human quality needs to be.
Whilst Cap as a character has all these perfections, he would never EVER describe himself as perfect. Thats what makes him a great character, he sees himself as just an average man, he doesn't put himself above his fellow soldiers. Now, I'm not saying krasinski is my perfect Cap because he isn't, but I think on the basis of portraying this important aspect of Caps personality, JK has shown that he can build up this sort of audience endearment better than the others... call me crazy, but I find him slightly more humble than say, someone who calls himself 'captain awesome'. I'm judging this solely by the other people on the list, but just remember... muscle mass can be gained, hair can be dyed, theres even an extent of control over how the face is portrayed through lighting, but the one thing you can't fake is presence. You either have it or you don't, and whilst i don't think anyone on that list has an overwhelming presence, JK is the only one that is actually interesting to look at. When you look at his face you actually see a person, a character, as opposed to looking into the bland face of a generic hunk, where you see very little other than the same type of face we've seen in Hollywood movies for the last 50 years.
Rock, what baffles me is that, JK aside, you seem to be arguing all the points of what Cap should be anyway... You seem to be angling just for a muscly handsome action hero type... If thats the way you see Captain America, then I feel sorry for you having missed the best and deepest aspects of his character.
I don't need you to feel sorry for me. In fact you clearly do not understand what I want and have only demonstrated that you "think" Krasinksi represents somebody who could endear himself to main stream audiences while also maintaining a leadership role. This is not "fact", this is OPINION so please stop speaking to me as if it is anything but.
McPartlin doesn't "call himself Captain Awesome". That is a part that was written for him in the script. Remember that whole argument about the parts Krasinski has played and how the "faction" defended the fact that just because he hasn't played a character like CA, doesn't mean he couldn't? Remember that? It's ironic how quickly you'd write McPartlin off. Regardless have you watched the character? He's described by executives of the show as "the most fantastic human being that has ever lived" .....does this not sound like somebody who could lead and endear himself to the audience as well? They even go on to describe him as "hard charging, but sweet."
Yup, sounds to me like that's what would fit our description. Those sound like "human" elements to me alright. Watch a few interviews with him..... he's EXTREMELY likable, not to mention has a commanding voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncLpMzUDyi4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B75AmqfVVI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw4aemm1UjA
Nothing about Krasinski's screen presence or acting skills IMO make up for his lack of resemblance to one of the most iconic comic book figures of all time. That's why his looks are brought up so often. It would be one thing if he was this legendary actor. If he did have such amazing skill sets and range, where are all the parts? Where are all the accolades? He's not quite the accomplished gentleman just yet.
None of these guys fit that accomplished description. In fact the whole list from rumors to the recent run down is weak. It's what you get when you cast cheaply for a lead role.
louiebling$
03-03-2010, 03:46 AM
^You forgot :huh: and :doh:
Yes yes I did lol
And these :D
louiebling$
03-03-2010, 03:46 AM
^You forgot :huh: and :doh:
Yes yes I did lol
And these :D
Wolvieboy17
03-03-2010, 04:15 AM
I don't need you to feel sorry for me. In fact you clearly do not understand what I want and have only demonstrated that you "think" Krasinksi represents somebody who could endear himself to main stream audiences while also maintaining a leadership role. This is not "fact", this is OPINION so please stop speaking to me as if it is anything but.
McPartlin doesn't "call himself Captain Awesome". That is a part that was written for him in the script. Remember that whole argument about the parts Krasinski has played and how the "faction" defended the fact that just because he hasn't played a character like CA, doesn't mean he couldn't? Remember that? It's ironic how quickly you'd write McPartlin off. Regardless have you watched the character? He's described by executives of the show as "the most fantastic human being that has ever lived" .....does this not sound like somebody who could lead and endear himself to the audience as well? They even go on to describe him as "hard charging, but sweet."
Yup, sounds to me like that's what would fit our description. Those sound like "human" elements to me alright. Watch a few interviews with him..... he's EXTREMELY likable, not to mention has a commanding voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncLpM...eature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncLpMzUDyi4&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B75AmqfVVI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw4aemm1UjA
Nothing about Krasinski's screen presence or acting skills IMO make up for his lack of resemblance to one of the most iconic comic book figures of all time. That's why his looks are brought up so often. It would be one thing if he was this legendary actor. If he did have such amazing skill sets and range, where are all the parts? Where are all the accolades? He's not quite the accomplished gentleman just yet.
None of these guys fit that accomplished description. In fact the whole list from rumors to the recent run down is weak. It's what you get when you cast cheaply for a lead role.
First of all, I'm not part of any 'faction'. I speak only for myself, so don't try and lump me in with previous people's opinions. Second of all, what you did there was compare Ryan McPartlin's character from Chuck with Jim Halpert, which is a bad comparison... My initial opinion was based on the fact that JK has portrayed characters with LOADS more depth than Captain Awesome. If this is what we're going to go by, then I don't think RM is even in the same league... pitching a 2 dimensional comic relief character over a lead character from a realistically shot dramedy series?
Now, if you're saying that just because we haven't seen Ryan McPartlin do anything substantial yet doesn't mean he CANT, then fair enough, thats definitely a fair argument... but by that standard, this can be applied to just about anyone, and makes the whole point of that observation essentially redundant. I'll agree, McPartlin has a commanding voice, and he is fit and handsome, but as I stated before, that's not a priority in my mind for casting Cap.... Blonde, handsome boof heads are a dime a dozen in Hollywood.... but good luck trying to find one of them who can hold his own, without looking silly, or bland, next to RDJ, Ed Norton etc.
Also, the most Iconic comic book figure of all time? I can garantee, outside of America, and with a general audience particularly, no one is going to actually care whether he's blonde or looks exactly like the comic character... that is entirely a fanboy concern, and Marvel is marketing a movie at EVERYONE. They'll go with who they think can give a better performance as said character, not who looks the most like him.... Talent and persona should always come over the 'chesty bond' factor.
SpiderByte
03-03-2010, 05:25 AM
Re-do ..... so my buddy's don't confuse him for John Krasinksiwhosamawhatsit....
http://members.cox.net/rocksexton/captain5.jpg
He's still McPufflin.
Aesop Rocks
03-03-2010, 05:48 AM
Re-do ..... so my buddy's don't confuse him for John Krasinksiwhosamawhatsit....
http://members.cox.net/rocksexton/captain5.jpg
Is he...Is he taking a ****?
Brian Braddock
03-03-2010, 06:13 AM
This thread has gotten beyond ridiculous; it's arguably worse than when Avengerscaptain and Pluto were infesting the place with all their Ben Ryan crap - some posters seem to have lost all sense of subjectivity and all that's being produced is page after page of the same immature, repetitive drivel. Seriously, it's like reading a manuscript of an arguement between toddlers. C.Lee's working overtime deleting abusive posts and no mod should be called upon as mich as now.
I think I'm gonna give this thread a wide berth until casting is actually announced, and frequent a more serene place, like the Thor casting thread. Now that is a pleasant place to be - no negativity or conflict, just a sense of looking forward to seeing the end result on screen.
Aesop Rocks
03-03-2010, 06:15 AM
Dude, why are you go be coming back when it's announced? It's only going to be worse.
RetroNaz
03-03-2010, 06:18 AM
This thread has gotten beyond ridiculous; it's arguably worse than when Avengerscaptain and Pluto were infesting the place with all their Ben Ryan crap - some posters seem to have lost all sense of subjectivity and all that's being produced is page after page of the same immature, repetitive drivel. Seriously, it's like reading a manuscript of an arguement between toddlers. C.Lee's working overtime deleting abusive posts and no mod should be called upon as mich as now.
I think I'm gonna give this thread a wide berth until casting is actually announced, and frequent a more serene place, like the Thor casting thread. Now that is a pleasant place to be - no negativity or conflict, just a sense of looking forward to seeing the end result on screen.
I agree. I'm done with this thread too.
The Thor section is so much more...relaxed :)
Aesop Rocks
03-03-2010, 06:19 AM
Until the photo shoot pictures are released. :awesome:
chiefchirpa
03-03-2010, 06:27 AM
Umm, no casting yet?
Aesop Rocks
03-03-2010, 06:28 AM
Nah, but hopefully before mid-march.
Young Superman
03-03-2010, 06:35 AM
For those against Cap carrying a side arm during the war, cheack this out.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/0/09/Adventures_of_Captain_America_Vol_1_1.jpg
Aesop Rocks
03-03-2010, 06:38 AM
Cap should use a weapon during the war. Not Avengers.
Young Superman
03-03-2010, 06:43 AM
Agreed
RetroNaz
03-03-2010, 07:21 AM
Until the photo shoot pictures are released. :awesome:
haha so true. Hmm still here.
Must.Escape.Now.
:hehe:
MegaDexx
03-03-2010, 09:08 AM
http://members.cox.net/rocksexton/captain5.jpg
Is he...Is he taking a ****?
LOL!!!!!!!!:lmao:
The more you look at it, that's just what it looks like he's trying to do... And not succeeding either!
More fiber perhaps? :D
Posting this only to lighten the mood around here.
If we can have John K being drawn as Goofy, we can have this also :D
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4403474165_5bb478415c_o.jpg
FaT_tONle
03-03-2010, 09:41 AM
I agree. I'm done with this thread too.
The Thor section is so much more...relaxed :)
In Branagh I trust... in Johnston I pray.
Rock Sexton
03-03-2010, 12:07 PM
He's still McPufflin.
It's overkill now guys. I know you like to gang up on people on here, but grow up.
I touched up NOTHING on the picture. All I did was cut the suit out and place it on top of his face from a picture I got off google. McPartlin having a puffy face is the last comment he'd ever get in this life.
I gotta say, I don't have anything against Ryan McPartlin as Cap. The only thing I don't know about him is if he's a good enough actor to hold his own against all of the others in the Avengers. I've only ever seen him on Chuck.
Other than that he's clearly a handsome blonde dude with an air of likability to him.
The last part (likability) is obviously my own subjective opinion more than any of the others... I got into "trouble" last time I aired an opinion on the likability factor.
I really think everyone needs to turn down the fanboyism a notch. Take a step back. Breathe. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
I think it's also important to remember that two of the most revered comic book character performances (Keaton and Ledger) were widely condemned when they were first announced.
No matter who gets the part...history has shown that it's wise to give the actor a chance before you condemn them.
Everyone is passionate with their preferences, that is to be expected...but please, keep it civil and respectful in here. I would hate for a major thread like this to be closed because people can't keep their opinions in check.
Docker2.0
03-03-2010, 12:21 PM
In Branagh I trust... in Johnston I pray.
Yes I'm not very pleased with the things I'm hearing about the Cap movie. From the casting, to the dancing, to Cap not knowing who he is....................just not feeling it right now but hopefully JJ can pull it off..............which I'm honestly not sure he can.
FlawlessVictory
03-03-2010, 12:30 PM
An announcement on who got the role is expected in a couple of days.
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/captain-america-synopsis-9355
Project862006
03-03-2010, 12:35 PM
ok who ever is cap now has to hit the gym even more
http://www.**************.com/fansites/Poniverse/news/?a=15461
Joe Johnston has a pretty good career IMO. His main failures have been Jurassic Park III and Wolfman. The former being an unnecessary sequel and the latter being a gigantic mess during production for reasons out of his control.
A lot of people here love The Rocketeer, which was practically a superhero movie, and one set during the World War II era at that.
ok who ever is cap now has to hit the gym even more
http://www.**************.com/fansites/Poniverse/news/?a=15461
Yeah, Buckley as Bucky seems like a bad move as he is in great condition and it will be difficult to get anybody to look more physical than him.
Deaths Head II
03-03-2010, 12:44 PM
In Branagh I trust... in Johnston I pray.
I just saw The Rocketeer. Between that and October Sky, my faith in Johnston is relatively high.
SpiderByte
03-03-2010, 12:52 PM
I'm still for Krasinski.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii289/SpiderByte_photo/cap4copy.jpg
I'm not on my reg comp, so this pic shows up as a red X here, so I may have posted this already.
Huh, Collider still has Ackles as a contender...
FlawlessVictory
03-03-2010, 01:06 PM
I'm still for Krasinski.
Thanks for the reminder. Your sig wasn't making it clear enough for us. :oldrazz:
Webhead2006
03-03-2010, 01:12 PM
was reading that story a few hrs ago. Its not the first time a guy goes for one role and lands another in the same film. Now if he was bucky i am curious to see where they would take the character. We have no clue what marvel studios is planning with bucky right now. Though i would like for them to play with the idea he dies with cap, and in the future returns as winter soldier.
Though as its been stated we have no clue how characters/actors will look. By the time filming will happen for the film. Its a wait an see process. Just like everyone wondering how chris hemsworth is going to look like thor. And from recent photos we seen he got some good muscle mass on himself. As for who ever is cap we have no clue what their diet/training they will do it put on muscle will be. So we can just wait and see what happens. I am sure they will get in the best shape possible.
As for casting i could be very well possible they have their cap selected already, and are just finishing up making it official. Before the reveal it to the press and all that. We just dont know what is happening behind the scenes.
Project862006
03-03-2010, 01:12 PM
Huh, Collider still has Ackles as a contender...
i think both him and hedlund had schedule conflict but were both still expected to test
Webhead2006
03-03-2010, 01:15 PM
that was the report from the other week. We dont know for sure if ackles/helund did end up getting to test. Even though it would be great if ackles could do the role. He probably cant due to supernatural's schedule and when cap is going to be filming in london and all that.
blinkuldhc
03-03-2010, 01:51 PM
So, is Buckley the type of "big name actor" they're surrounding the unknown actor playing Cap?
OptimusPrime114
03-03-2010, 01:54 PM
So, is Buckley the type of "big name actor" they're surrounding the unknown actor playing Cap?
Actually, I heard Buckley may play Bucky instead.
redlion2
03-03-2010, 01:55 PM
Yeah, Buckley as Bucky seems like a bad move as he is in great condition and it will be difficult to get anybody to look more physical than him.
If this turns out to be true, I would have to agree somewhat. You can't have Bucky looking as if he's taken the SSS and Cap hasn't. So whoever is cast as Cap is gonna have to really hit the gym....HARD. I also find this interestng. If Buckley is Bucky, they're going to have to cast someone that looks/or can look slightly older. Hmmm.......
I still like JK, but I kinda hope this report about Buckley is a little off. I am kinda hoping that he is still in the running for Cap, since he already has the physique that is needed. He could spend the next three plus months reading CA comics to get into character. I would rather have someone like Haley Joel Osment as Bucky, though I think he is a pretty short guy.
blinkuldhc
03-03-2010, 02:05 PM
Actually, I heard Buckley may play Bucky instead.
That's what I mean. They said that they wanted to surround Cap with big names, and Buckley as Bucky isn't exactly that.
louiebling$
03-03-2010, 02:32 PM
In Branagh I trust... in Johnston I pray.
:lmao:
piccolo
03-03-2010, 02:57 PM
With all the banter there has been on here about the prospect of John K. as Cap, we've all definetly proven one thing. And that is that NO ONE else on that list of candidates OTHER than John Krasinski is even remotely interesting or relevant for that matter. From Vogel, Ackles, McPartlin, to Porter. Thinking about them in the role of Cap or even talking about them puts one to :sleepy:
More like John Krasinski is so misplaced for the role, no one else even comes close to inspiring the same level of appallment bordering on revulsion.
Nice how you've convinced yourself that the intensity of the backlash to his casting is evidence of how much more perfect he is though, as opposed to the exact opposite.
More like John Krasinski is so misplaced for the role, no one else even comes close to inspiring the same level of appallment bordering on revulsion.
Nice how you've convinced yourself that the intensity of the backlash to his casting is evidence of how much more perfect he is though, as opposed to the exact opposite.
I don't think that he is implying that the debate over JK means that he is a perfect Cap. All he is saying is that his inclusion as a candidate has generated a buzz and would probably continue to do so if he were picked. I find it hard to believe that you would get much buzz at all over the other names. They wouldn't generate the kind of public interest that you would get with a JK selection, just for the simple fact that even among the GA people would be curious to see how it works out.
I'm far more interested in what Krasinski will bring to the role over the male models that make up the rest of the cast list.
More like John Krasinski is so misplaced for the role, no one else even comes close to inspiring the same level of appallment bordering on revulsion.
Nice how you've convinced yourself that the intensity of the backlash to his casting is evidence of how much more perfect he is though, as opposed to the exact opposite.
I think it's worth pointing out that more people have changed their minds and like the idea of JK being cast, than not.
Similarly, none of the other actors in the running have had a similar "conversion" of fans to the idea.
FlawlessVictory
03-03-2010, 03:18 PM
I'm far more interested in what Krasinski will bring to the role over the male models that make up the rest of the cast list.
Oh of course because a male actor that has a dopey looking face has more to offer the role than someone who is naturally more good looking. And why exactly are they "male models"? Did they actually do modeling work? Or do you feel insecure on some level towards them and feel the need to refer them in that derogatory manner.
How come when it comes to female casting it doesn't work the same way? The not so obviously "pretty" one should get as much consideration like JK does because her face has "character" and therefore she has something to bring to the role. Instead it's "she's not hot enough" and "her t*ts aren't big enough". :o Nice double standard.
piccolo
03-03-2010, 03:21 PM
I don't think that he is implying that the debate over JK means that he is a perfect Cap. All he is saying is that his inclusion as a candidate has generated a buzz and would probably continue to do so if he were picked. I find it hard to believe that you would get much buzz at all over the other names. They wouldn't generate the kind of public interest that you would get with a JK selection, just for the simple fact that even among the GA people would be curious to see how it works out.
Maybe. But that just says to me the studio is concerned with making as much money as possible on the movie, with much less regard to the actual quality of the product put out.
Which I understand is how studio's have to operate in order to stay profitable, they have to think about their bottom line first. But I don't have to like it. Especially when Captain America is one of my favorite characters and the one superhero who's look is absolutely crucial to his character.
Project862006
03-03-2010, 03:22 PM
Oh of course because a male actor that has a dopey looking face has more to offer the role than someone who is naturally more good looking. And why exactly are they "male models"? Did they actually do modeling work? Or do you feel insecure on some level towards them and feel the need to refer them in that derogatory manner.
How come when it comes to female casting it doesn't work the same way? The not so obviously "pretty" one should get as much consideration like JK does because her face has "character" and therefore she has something to bring to the role. Instead it's "she's not hot enough" and "her t*ts aren't big enough". :o Nice double standard.
lol i agree most fanboys want there heroes to be old looknig with a grittiness to them it is quite sad they need there heroes to be ugly or good looknig but gruffed up
Oh of course because a male actor that has a dopey looking face has more to offer the role than someone who is naturally more good looking. And why exactly are they "male models"? Did they actually do modeling work? Or do you feel insecure on some level towards them and feel the need to refer them in that derogatory manner.I say male models because they all look generically good looking without any of them standing out. Unlike John Krasinski who is good looking in a unique way (he has a large female fan following) Oh, and nice way to try and suggest I'm ugly!
How come when it comes to female casting it doesn't work the same way? The not so obviously "pretty" one should get as much consideration like JK does because her face has "character" and therefore she has something to bring to the role. Instead it's "she's not hot enough" and "her t*ts aren't big enough". :o Nice double standard.Um, it actually annoys me a great deal how actresses are treated by the fans when it comes to their looks in casting debates, which is why I avoid the Wonder Woman casting thread. (As in, I don't think actresses are right for the role just because I think they are the most attractive) You can't say I have double standards when you don't have any evidence of a conflicting standard!
So, calm down and try not to get too mad that your least favourite choice is getting a lot of support, okay?
SpiderByte
03-03-2010, 03:31 PM
^
I felt that burn from HERE.
And it's SNOWING!
Deaths Head II
03-03-2010, 03:38 PM
I always hate female casting debates too. They basically just boil down to this:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/Deaths_Head_II/1643hibgh-standards.jpg
FlawlessVictory
03-03-2010, 03:42 PM
I say male models because they all look generically good looking without any of them standing out. Unlike John Krasinski who is good looking in a unique way (he has a large female fan following)
So JK stands out because he is not as good looking and therefore has more to bring to the role? I just don't get that logic that I see around here. Yea, the other guys are mighty good looking. That to me is a good thing. And IMO, in a overall unimpressive list have just as much to bring to the role as JK does. Only difference to me is JK is dopier looking which doesn't in my book give him more "character" or an advantage in adding something to the role.
Oh, and nice way to try and suggest I'm ugly!
Didn't mean to suggest that but stated it in that way because I don't see the need to refer to them as "male models". It just comes off as because they are good looking they don't have much to offer which I disagree with. I apologize for the way that came out.
You can't say I have double standards when you don't have any evidence of a conflicting standard!
Right, it's not you but what I have been mostly coming across this board. That somehow JK gets the advantage because he is not as good looking as the others. I can't imagine how if this was a female lead how different it would be around here.
SpiderByte
03-03-2010, 03:49 PM
Well, first off, Captain America is not a woman, so he CAN'T be a female lead...
Project862006
03-03-2010, 03:53 PM
ackles probably has a bigger female following imo
SpiderByte
03-03-2010, 03:55 PM
Well, Ackles has Supernatural, so he can't be Cap.
So JK stands out because he is not as good looking and therefore has more to bring to the role? I just don't get that logic that I see around here. Yea, the other guys are mighty good looking. That to me is a good thing. And IMO, in a overall unimpressive list have just as much to bring to the role as JK does. Only difference to me is JK is dopier looking which doesn't in my book give him more "character" or an advantage in adding something to the role.Well, I'm not saying that because Krasinski is less good looking that he is better, it's your opinion that he is less good looking, I think he is just as good looking, but in a way that is better than the rest, who I think resemble male models, which have a certain look that I don't think suits the character.
Didn't mean to suggest that but stated it in that way because I don't see the need to refer to them as "male models". It just comes off as because they are good looking they don't have much to offer which I disagree with. I apologize for the way that came out.Well a few of them have weak resumes, but it is mainly aesthetics. I accept your apology.
Right, it's not you but what I have been mostly coming across this board. That somehow JK gets the advantage because he is not as good looking as the others. I can't imagine how if this was a female lead how different it would be around here.Yeah, most (male) people have that double standard. But again, people who support Krasinski don't think he isn't good looking.
archangel_jay
03-03-2010, 04:11 PM
im hoping Buckley for cap, couldn't see it at first but now like the idea.
From the other list id go with
Ackles
Krasinski
Hedlund
Vogel (can't see it but would consider him before the others i haven't listed
Rock Sexton
03-03-2010, 04:17 PM
More like John Krasinski is so misplaced for the role, no one else even comes close to inspiring the same level of appallment bordering on revulsion.
Nice how you've convinced yourself that the intensity of the backlash to his casting is evidence of how much more perfect he is though, as opposed to the exact opposite.
:applaud
blinkuldhc
03-03-2010, 04:42 PM
"Appallment bordering on revulsion"?
That pretty sums up why people detest fanboys and fanboy reactions to these types of news.
How can a casting choice be revolting? Seriously? Get a grip. If you disagree, fine. But to be appalled to the point of "revulsion" is a bit overboard.
The reason why you don't see the same type of "appalled" or "revolting" reaction to any alternative casting choice is because the type of people supporting Krasinski are probably the reasonable, level-headed ones who wouldn't throw hissy fits if someone else were chosen, either. Perhaps a lot of people "converted" to being Krasinski supporters not because they genuinely believe he's the perfect choice, but maybe because they're tired of hearing how he's supposedly a god-awful choice with goofy, terrible looks.
I don't think Krasinski is "perfect" for the role, but I am closer to endorsing him than I am to being "appalled" by or "revolt" at the choice of anyone else. There's no reason for such a reaction -- FFS it's just a movie, get over it.
Son of Coul
03-03-2010, 05:05 PM
"Appallment bordering on revulsion"?
That pretty sums up why people detest fanboys and fanboy reactions to these types of news.
How can a casting choice be revolting? Seriously? Get a grip. If you disagree, fine. But to be appalled to the point of "revulsion" is a bit overboard.
The reason why you don't see the same type of "appalled" or "revolting" reaction to any alternative casting choice is because the type of people supporting Krasinski are probably the reasonable, level-headed ones who wouldn't throw hissy fits if someone else were chosen, either. Perhaps a lot of people "converted" to being Krasinski supporters not because they genuinely believe he's the perfect choice, but maybe because they're tired of hearing how he's supposedly a god-awful choice with goofy, terrible looks.
I don't think Krasinski is "perfect" for the role, but I am closer to endorsing him than I am to being "appalled" by or "revolt" at the choice of anyone else. There's no reason for such a reaction -- FFS it's just a movie, get over it.
:applaud
flickchick85
03-03-2010, 05:21 PM
More like John Krasinski is so misplaced for the role, no one else even comes close to inspiring the same level of appallment bordering on revulsion.
A little melodramatic, but sure, that general sentiment may be part of it, yet it goes both ways: look at who is leading the "contenders" poll. I think it's fair to say that Krasinski is the candidate from that list who has inspired the most negative AND positive reactions, which I'm pretty sure was MegaDexx's point in the first place. So it would seem that Krasinski IS the most interesting candidate, in the sense that he's the one generating the most buzz and debate, and is less of a safe, conventional (or to some, "boring") choice than the others.
KangConquers
03-03-2010, 05:54 PM
Ideally Cap would have the looks of Ben Ryan or John Cena with the acting skills of Daniel Day Lewis...But that's not going to happen. We have our list of 6 or so, and I'm not fond of most choices.
Maybe I feel less "revoltion" because I'm a fan of the office, but JK is the only person who's acting abilities I trust; I have admittedly not seen about half the actors act, but the ones I have are embarassing.
All you who are picking Jensen Ackles might as well pick John Cena...Cena is about as good of an actor as Ackles and more masculine. You see Ackles as this middle ground between an Schwarzenegger/ Van Dam/ Lundgen type action hero and an actual actor, but what I see is a foppish pretty boy who can't handle even the most simple of dramatic roles: a WB teens show.
MegaDexx
03-03-2010, 05:59 PM
"Appallment bordering on revulsion"?
That pretty sums up why people detest fanboys and fanboy reactions to these types of news.
How can a casting choice be revolting? Seriously? Get a grip. If you disagree, fine. But to be appalled to the point of "revulsion" is a bit overboard.
The reason why you don't see the same type of "appalled" or "revolting" reaction to any alternative casting choice is because the type of people supporting Krasinski are probably the reasonable, level-headed ones who wouldn't throw hissy fits if someone else were chosen, either. Perhaps a lot of people "converted" to being Krasinski supporters not because they genuinely believe he's the perfect choice, but maybe because they're tired of hearing how he's supposedly a god-awful choice with goofy, terrible looks.
I don't think Krasinski is "perfect" for the role, but I am closer to endorsing him than I am to being "appalled" by or "revolt" at the choice of anyone else. There's no reason for such a reaction -- FFS it's just a movie, get over it.
Well said my friend, well said. :bow:
cerealkiller182
03-03-2010, 06:00 PM
All you who are picking Jensen Ackles might as well pick John Cena...Cena is about as good of an actor as Ackles and more masculine. You see Ackles as this middle ground between an Schwarzenegger/ Van Dam/ Lundgen type action hero and an actual actor, but what I see is a foppish pretty boy who can't handle even the most simple of dramatic roles: a WB teens show.
Amen
"Appallment bordering on revulsion"?
That pretty sums up why people detest fanboys and fanboy reactions to these types of news.
How can a casting choice be revolting? Seriously? Get a grip. If you disagree, fine. But to be appalled to the point of "revulsion" is a bit overboard.
The reason why you don't see the same type of "appalled" or "revolting" reaction to any alternative casting choice is because the type of people supporting Krasinski are probably the reasonable, level-headed ones who wouldn't throw hissy fits if someone else were chosen, either. Perhaps a lot of people "converted" to being Krasinski supporters not because they genuinely believe he's the perfect choice, but maybe because they're tired of hearing how he's supposedly a god-awful choice with goofy, terrible looks.
I don't think Krasinski is "perfect" for the role, but I am closer to endorsing him than I am to being "appalled" by or "revolt" at the choice of anyone else. There's no reason for such a reaction -- FFS it's just a movie, get over it.
:bow:
http://www.thinkmcflythink.com/
Go to the second article on the page, I think you may enjoy it.[/shameless plug]
BETArayBill
03-03-2010, 06:32 PM
Ideally Cap would have the looks of Ben Ryan or John Cena with the acting skills of Daniel Day Lewis...But that's not going to happen. We have our list of 6 or so, and I'm not fond of most choices.
Maybe I feel less "revoltion" because I'm a fan of the office, but JK is the only person who's acting abilities I trust; I have admittedly not seen about half the actors act, but the ones I have are embarassing.
All you who are picking Jensen Ackles might as well pick John Cena...Cena is about as good of an actor as Ackles and more masculine. You see Ackles as this middle ground between an Schwarzenegger/ Van Dam/ Lundgen type action hero and an actual actor, but what I see is a foppish pretty boy who can't handle even the most simple of dramatic roles: a WB teens show.
Have you ever watched an episode of supernatural? It's pretty clear you haven't recently because ackles has picked up his game considerbly to say he has the range of john cena is just foolish
That-Guy
03-03-2010, 06:41 PM
Yeah, I haven't seen all that much of Ackles' acting to either endorse him or condemn him, but I've seen coma patients that are better actors than John Cena. Cut Jensen some slack.
"Appallment bordering on revulsion"?
That pretty sums up why people detest fanboys and fanboy reactions to these types of news.
How can a casting choice be revolting? Seriously? Get a grip. If you disagree, fine. But to be appalled to the point of "revulsion" is a bit overboard.
The reason why you don't see the same type of "appalled" or "revolting" reaction to any alternative casting choice is because the type of people supporting Krasinski are probably the reasonable, level-headed ones who wouldn't throw hissy fits if someone else were chosen, either. Perhaps a lot of people "converted" to being Krasinski supporters not because they genuinely believe he's the perfect choice, but maybe because they're tired of hearing how he's supposedly a god-awful choice with goofy, terrible looks.
I don't think Krasinski is "perfect" for the role, but I am closer to endorsing him than I am to being "appalled" by or "revolt" at the choice of anyone else. There's no reason for such a reaction -- FFS it's just a movie, get over it.
Hahaha well said.
It's useless to try to find logic in the mind of a fanboy, it's like they cover their ears and go "LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!" when you try to suggest something else, so this is why I just sit back and enjoy the show, man :D
SpiderByte
03-03-2010, 07:06 PM
I can't wait for the nuclear detonation if Krasinski gets the role. It will be absolutely hillarious.
I'll spend the whole day trailing the admins to track their progress.
Oh, and on a side note, I'll make an approximate cast release date. I think it'll be....by the 18th.
piccolo
03-03-2010, 07:11 PM
"Appallment bordering on revulsion"?
That pretty sums up why people detest fanboys and fanboy reactions to these types of news.
How can a casting choice be revolting? Seriously? Get a grip. If you disagree, fine. But to be appalled to the point of "revulsion" is a bit overboard.
The reason why you don't see the same type of "appalled" or "revolting" reaction to any alternative casting choice is because the type of people supporting Krasinski are probably the reasonable, level-headed ones who wouldn't throw hissy fits if someone else were chosen, either. Perhaps a lot of people "converted" to being Krasinski supporters not because they genuinely believe he's the perfect choice, but maybe because they're tired of hearing how he's supposedly a god-awful choice with goofy, terrible looks.
I don't think Krasinski is "perfect" for the role, but I am closer to endorsing him than I am to being "appalled" by or "revolt" at the choice of anyone else. There's no reason for such a reaction -- FFS it's just a movie, get over it.
Yeah I probably went a little overboard, but this is a big deal to me. Bigger than Thor, bigger than Wolverine, bigger than anyone marvel has put on the bigscreen yet. Its Captain America, the icon, the spirit of America and lynchpin of the MU. Replace "appallment bordering revulsion" with "unusually negative" and its perfectly accurate. There are legitimate reasons he has sparked the most heated discussion thus far in the thread, and he does have the worst look for the part out of anyone proposed yet.
Captain America's appearance is a big part of his origin and his fight against the Red Skull's nazi fanatics, and Krasinski, as good-looking in his "own" way as he is, is not even close to what Cap is supposed to represent. He actually resembles the exact thing the Red Skull was fighting against, which defeats the point of the irony of the Cap/Skull relationship. Now, its not necessary to go out and get the most beautiful person ever to play the part, but there are certainly actors who's looks are more faithful to the character who also possess acting chops no worse than JK's.
piccolo
03-03-2010, 07:12 PM
A little melodramatic, but sure, that general sentiment may be part of it, yet it goes both ways: look at who is leading the "contenders" poll. I think it's fair to say that Krasinski is the candidate from that list who has inspired the most negative AND positive reactions, which I'm pretty sure was MegaDexx's point in the first place. So it would seem that Krasinski IS the most interesting candidate, in the sense that he's the one generating the most buzz and debate, and is less of a safe, conventional (or to some, "boring") choice than the others.
This isn't the movie for a risque, controversial casting choice. Its not Dr. Strange. Its Cap, and needing an actor who will look the part standing on his own and in future movies involving the rest of the Avengers. JK is not him, and never will be.
Doctor Jones
03-03-2010, 07:18 PM
Yup, when he's cast, it will be Ledger all over again. Maybe even worse.
MegaDexx
03-03-2010, 07:23 PM
Browsing around the Net, I've already seen several reputable sites reporting that John K all but has the role locked up. Now whether it's 100% true or not? I don't know. I see and I read, just like everybody else. BUT....
I've always said, where there's smoke there's fire. And with all the endless Krasinski talk and discussion all over the web, I definetly think there's some truth to it somehow. What I also think is that Marvel has been silently watching all this John Krasinski madness that has gone on since his name was revealed among the list of candidates. It would only make sense for Marvel to reveal the names of the actors in consideration to the public then see which name will generate the most buzz, positive or negative. Of course that has no baring on what Marvel doing which is auditioning the actors in the running for Cap. But in Hollywood everything factors in depending on the role. For the role of Captain America they want someone who's not so big a name (ie: Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt, or even Matt "I AM JASON BOURNE" Damon) in that the actor would overshadow the character, but at same time they don't want to cast just any empty shell pretty boy with questionable acting skills for a role of this magnitude either.
This is where I think someone like John Krasinski fits in perfectly. Not too big of a name, but not exactly an unknown, who also has a following and is popular enough with the general audience due to the part he plays on the Office. But most importantly has all the qualities they are looking for to play the role of Captain America, and not just strickly going on looks alone.
And speaking of looks?... I've seen a great many pics of John K for me to know he can totally look the part. Most photos of him he's smiling, or grinning, or just regular looking. But we're all movie fans here and movies are all about lighting and makeup and camera angles etc.
I'm not trying to convince and ardent anti Krasinski folks out there, but this is what John Krasinski CAN look like.
THE MAN YOU SEE HERE...
http://images1.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/John-john-krasinski-1147533_1024_768.jpg
WILL BECOME.....!!!!!
http://content.photos-room.com/previews/World_War_2_Captain_America_by_gangus.jpg
He's COMING!!!!!! :cap:
Could you at least reduce the image sizes? Jesus...
Changeling
03-03-2010, 07:35 PM
People dont want Krasinski because he's uglier than the rest of the choices. In fact, he isnt uglier, he just has a more unique look than the other guys. The other choices have a rather generic pretty boy look, but Krasinski is just as handsome, but in a more unique way.
I find him more hansom, personally.
*A message from your friendly neighborhood gay*
MegaDexx
03-03-2010, 07:42 PM
Could you at least reduce the image sizes? Jesus...
Hehe, sorry about that. Clicked on the wrong pic. :D
Gamma Goliath
03-03-2010, 07:43 PM
^^^lol
SpiderByte
03-03-2010, 07:50 PM
^
Not that that's a bad thing, not at all.
I live in New England, so, yeah.
Majik1387
03-03-2010, 07:53 PM
People dont want Krasinski because he's uglier than the rest of the choices. In fact, he isnt uglier, he just has a more unique look than the other guys. The other choices have a rather generic pretty boy look, but Krasinski is just as handsome, but in a more unique way.
For some reason all this talk of unique-ness working just makes me think of the old saying:
"You're not ugly, you're just unique(special, different)"
No matter how unique he looks, he's not Captain America material.
~A message from your realistic neighborhood gay~
:awesome:
Rock Sexton
03-03-2010, 07:54 PM
Hahaha well said.
It's useless to try to find logic in the mind of a fanboy, it's like they cover their ears and go "LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!" when you try to suggest something else, so this is why I just sit back and enjoy the show, man :D
As opposed to the "LA-LA-LA-LA-LA" that Krasinski fan-boys give when logic is expressed to them? :hehe:
Oh the irony.
Rock Sexton
03-03-2010, 07:57 PM
For some reason all this talk of unique-ness working just makes me think of the old saying:
"You're not ugly, you're just unique(special, different)"
No matter how unique he looks, he's not Captain America material.
~A message from your realistic neighborhood gay~
:awesome:
So true.
He's not fat, he's "big boned."
Spider-Fan83
03-03-2010, 08:01 PM
People dont want Krasinski because he's uglier than the rest of the choices. In fact, he isnt uglier, he just has a more unique look than the other guys. The other choices have a rather generic pretty boy look, but Krasinski is just as handsome, but in a more unique way.
it's not even that I'd call him ugly, I am sure he is considered a good looking, guy (amongst those who know more about how to judge that kinda thing then me) its' just he's more of an "every man" type, which I think is a big part of his charm and likeability, but, as more then that, as a "super man", I just don't think he'd be as likeable... or charming
but, that could just be me...
Parker Wayne
03-03-2010, 08:17 PM
I'm not saying that Krasinski is perfect for the role, but I'd accept him for now because Marvel is 2 for 2 so far (Hemsworth could make it 3 for 3) and if they didn't think an actor couldn't do the job they would object.
And looking at him in an interview with time magazine, I think looks may be the only problem. I can see him pulling off the mannerisms and all the other small things that makes Steve Rogers great and believe he could make a great Captain America.
That's my opinion. I honestly believe both sides have reason to rejoice and worry.
The reason Krasinski is both popular and reviled for Captain America is because he sticks out. He's not a pretty boy or muscular man (with respect to the other candidates), but he's a good actor. I'm willing to give him a chance, but I understand if other people wouldn't. I won't lose any sleep if Krasinski doesn't get the role, but it would be awesome if Scott Porter got it.
Parker Wayne
03-03-2010, 08:24 PM
Also, I heard Robert Buckley is being considered for Bucky.
http://screenrant.com/captain-america-cast-robert-buckley-as-bucky-rob-46989/
SpiderByte
03-03-2010, 08:53 PM
As opposed to the "LA-LA-LA-LA-LA" that Krasinski fan-boys give when logic is expressed to them? :hehe:
Oh the irony.
We're not dismissing your logic. We're just waiting for you to show some.
NEXUS 6
03-03-2010, 09:52 PM
Okay here are my two cents on the "Krasinski is too ugly"/ "no he's not" argument...
take em or leave em
John Krasinski may or may not be a handsome man. That is debatable (as has been made evident by the past thirty pages of this thread) However, I feel all of us can agree that he is not handsome in what can be termed a traditional sense.
Steve Rogers, throughout his sixty/seventy odd year history, has been predominantly portrayed as a conventionally handsome man... square jaw, proportional features, straight nose, etc...
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/35895/885229-steve_rogers_2_large.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/17809/335894-179938-captain-america_large.jpg
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In my opinion, John Krasinski's lack of traditional features does not display an accurate Captain America. It is not because he is ugly, it is because he is not the right kind of handsome.
cerealkiller182
03-03-2010, 09:54 PM
In my opinion, John Krasinski's lack of traditional features does not display an accurate Captain America. It is not because he is ugly, it is because he is not the right kind of handsome.
aka "Krasinski doesnt look like Captain America jumped off the page"
You can't expect that.
WillardNation
03-03-2010, 09:58 PM
Could you at least reduce the image sizes? Jesus...
Yes, my son?
Project862006
03-03-2010, 09:58 PM
http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/44645144.html
read myrealitynikki's post
also
"yeah apparently the director is Emily Blunts close friend or something and thats how John got asked to test for it and I heard hes a shoe in from Scott."
"I'm not 100% its just what scott told me friday that he wasnt proally getting it because of john's relationship with Emily and her relationship with the director whom i think directed Young Victoria or something." (She was in Wolfman)
Majik1387
03-03-2010, 10:02 PM
http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/44645144.html
read myrealitynikki's post
I'm just gonna take that with a grain of salt. Not because Porter's my fave choice of the contenders, but because we don't know the scheduling that would be taking place with his new show and the poster said she was hanging out with him apparently. Since it's the internet age, I'm sorta against believing random users saying they supposedly know celebrities.
Spider-Fan
03-03-2010, 10:04 PM
It's looking more and more like JK is getting this. Assuming all new is true.
I'm still waiting for an announcement before I comment further.
Project862006
03-03-2010, 10:06 PM
i am actually warming up to him these new photos and manips has convinced me
SpiderByte
03-03-2010, 10:12 PM
Yesssss!
Another one for JK!
Chewy
03-03-2010, 10:15 PM
Where's Aesop and his list? :awesome:
Betty Ross
03-03-2010, 10:15 PM
http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/44645144.html
read myrealitynikki's post
also
"yeah apparently the director is Emily Blunts close friend or something and thats how John got asked to test for it and I heard hes a shoe in from Scott."
"I'm not 100% its just what scott told me friday that he wasnt proally getting it because of john's relationship with Emily and her relationship with the director whom i think directed Young Victoria or something." (She was in Wolfman)
lol.. I definitely didn't expect to see a ONTD conversation pop up here. The direct link to what she said is here (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/44645144.html?thread=7275337752#t7275337752). I'm eirinn in that thread. She pretty much said she's known Porter for 4-5 years and spoke to him on Friday, when he was still in the running. Back then he said he thought Krasinski had it in the bag because of the Blunt/Johnston connection. Then a few days ago, Porter told her that he (Porter) was officially out of the running. Porter even said that Crawford didn't screen test.
So yeah, don't take it as gospel but it does play into the Krasinski rumors we've been hearing.
Parker Wayne
03-03-2010, 10:16 PM
Yeah I miss Aesop's list.
OptimusPrime114
03-03-2010, 10:20 PM
Aesop, You better put me on the list!
flickchick85
03-03-2010, 10:23 PM
This isn't the movie for a risque, controversial casting choice. Its not Dr. Strange. Its Cap, and needing an actor who will look the part standing on his own and in future movies involving the rest of the Avengers. JK is not him, and never will be.
Then that's the fundamental point where we disagree: I don't think there are any roles that are outside the realm of unconventional thinking. Cap included. I don't particularly care if the actor naturally looks the way the character was drawn, as long as he looks like he could embody the qualities the character is written to possess. And based on what JJ has said about his vision of Cap, I could see Krasinski doing exactly that. AND I could see him fitting in with the rest of the Avengers cast, which is where the other final candidates fall drastically short, imo, as they all either play or recently played high schoolers or some other main character's kid brother. Sadly, Krasinski's the only one on the list who has the presence of a man, and not a boy.
Which is why, as I've said, I think it's a terrible list to begin with. So I'm still crossing my fingers for a Hemsworth-esque curve ball here, but barring that, I really do think JK is the best option on the list.
Project862006
03-03-2010, 10:23 PM
ahh the chick is saying porter thinks kras got it due to his connection he is not sure yet tho
i hope he does'nt get it due to the emily blunt connection tho
Asgard
03-03-2010, 10:25 PM
So from Scott's POV, John got the hook up.
Aesop Rocks
03-03-2010, 10:28 PM
I aint looking for that ****. :o
flickchick85
03-03-2010, 10:32 PM
Frankly, Porter seems too nice and professional to go around spouting stuff like that, imo. Many people have already made the JJ-Emily Blunt-Krasinski connection, and any one of them could've said that to stir the pot. Grain of salt, people.
Rock Sexton
03-03-2010, 10:39 PM
We're not dismissing your logic. We're just waiting for you to show some.
Still waiting for yours as well.....
I've been shown interpretation and personal taste from you guys - not logic.
Majik1387
03-03-2010, 10:41 PM
Frankly, Porter seems too nice and professional to go around spouting stuff like that, imo. Many people have already made the JJ-Emily Blunt-Krasinski connection, and any one of them could've said that to stir the pot. Grain of salt, people.
Agreed
WillardNation
03-03-2010, 10:41 PM
I'm just gonna take that with a grain of salt. Not because Porter's my fave choice of the contenders, but because we don't know the scheduling that would be taking place with his new show and the poster said she was hanging out with him apparently. Since it's the internet age, I'm sorta against believing random users saying they supposedly know celebrities.
Me and Chase Crawford are BFF's. :woot:
For reals though, at my last job I put down Scott Baio as a beneficiary on my life insurance. Funniest insurance meeting EVER.
Rock Sexton
03-03-2010, 10:43 PM
Okay here are my two cents on the "Krasinski is too ugly"/ "no he's not" argument...
take em or leave em
John Krasinski may or may not be a handsome man. That is debatable (as has been made evident by the past thirty pages of this thread) However, I feel all of us can agree that he is not handsome in what can be termed a traditional sense.
Steve Rogers, throughout his sixty/seventy odd year history, has been predominantly portrayed as a conventionally handsome man... square jaw, proportional features, straight nose, etc...
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/35895/885229-steve_rogers_2_large.jpg
In my opinion, John Krasinski's lack of traditional features does not display an accurate Captain America. It is not because he is ugly, it is because he is not the right kind of handsome.
Wait .......hold the d*mn phone.....
You mean to tell me that this doesn't look like the familiar Steve Rogers?
http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the_office/Images/john-krasinski-4.jpg
I'm appalled.... LOL
I can understand if people like this acting, but to suggest on any level that Krasinski resembles him is pure blasphemy. It's like one of those pictures that people have to stare at to convince themselves of what it really is.
Majik1387
03-03-2010, 10:43 PM
Me and Chase Crawford are BFF's. :woot:
Hook me up! :cwink:
For reals though, at my last job I put down Scott Baio as a beneficiary on my life insurance. Funniest insurance meeting EVER.
Hahaha sounds like it'd be great. :yay:
Rock Sexton
03-03-2010, 10:45 PM
Yes, my son?
LOL .... enjoyed this post.
Rock Sexton
03-03-2010, 10:47 PM
Then that's the fundamental point where we disagree: I don't think there are any roles that are outside the realm of unconventional thinking. Cap included. I don't particularly care if the actor naturally looks the way the character was drawn, as long as he looks like he could embody the qualities the character is written to possess. And based on what JJ has said about his vision of Cap, I could see Krasinski doing exactly that. AND I could see him fitting in with the rest of the Avengers cast, which is where the other final candidates fall drastically short, imo, as they all either play or recently played high schoolers or some other main character's kid brother. Sadly, Krasinski's the only one on the list who has the presence of a man, and not a boy.
Which is why, as I've said, I think it's a terrible list to begin with. So I'm still crossing my fingers for a Hemsworth-esque curve ball here, but barring that, I really do think JK is the best option on the list.
I'm just surprised that anyone can be such an acting purist when it comes to comic book heroes who are also heavily defined by their look.
God I hope there's a Hemsworth-like curve ball ......hope you're right.......
C. Lee
03-03-2010, 10:52 PM
Here's a piece of logic everyone should think about.....many comments are making my probation finger itchy.....logicly there are two ways to stop the itch....(1) snarky comments are ceased (2) probate all who make snarky comments.
louiebling$
03-03-2010, 11:05 PM
Here's a piece of logic everyone should think about.....many comments are making my probation finger itchy.....logicly there are two ways to stop the itch....(1) snarky comments are ceased (2) probate all who make snarky comments.
I say submit to the itch and make an example... its the only way people are gonna take it seriously because warnings aren't working and frankly I'm annoyed with all of it.
Submit to the itch Lee :hehe:
Submit :twisted:
WillardNation
03-03-2010, 11:12 PM
Yeah! Show no mercy! Make examples of people! Show them *****es who's boss! :indy:
Parker Wayne
03-03-2010, 11:14 PM
I submit! :bow::bow::bow:
flickchick85
03-03-2010, 11:17 PM
I'm just surprised that anyone can be such an acting purist when it comes to comic book heroes who are also heavily defined by their look.
Well, here's where you go, "yep, that explains it" - I don't read comics. I mean, I've read Watchmen, and a couple of random Catwoman stories people on the Batman boards recommended, but that's it. I grew up on the early 90's cartoons (Batman, X-men, Spidey), so most of my knowledge comes from those, and they were so long ago that the visuals are pretty much blurs in my memory at this point. But I do love these superhero movies when done right, and my best guy-friend is a massive comics reader, so we talk about the characters and their stories a lot. And that's what interests me about these movies - the characters and stories. So I guess I'm not as married to the visuals as most of you comics readers are, which is why its easier for me to picture out-of-the-box choices working, while I can still understand why some hardcore fans would have a problem with it.
C. Lee
03-03-2010, 11:19 PM
It would be simpler if people just didn't act so grade schoolish and learn to discuss with civility. It's bad enough the way people talk about other posters....but when people can't even discuss an actor without resorting to acting like a third grader, it just gets pretty darn annoying. Once someone starts saying things like how some actor looks retarded....then nothing they say after that is worth considering in an intelligent conversation.
As a former colleague of CLee's, making his trigger finger itchy is not a good idea. Especially if you actually enjoy posting here.
louiebling$
03-03-2010, 11:28 PM
I was really just joking... trying to scare some of the newbs :hehe:
RetroNaz
03-03-2010, 11:34 PM
Here's a piece of logic everyone should think about.....many comments are making my probation finger itchy.....logicly there are two ways to stop the itch....(1) snarky comments are ceased (2) probate all who make snarky comments.
http://virtualreligion.net/forum/images/emperor.jpg
Do what must be done. Do not hesitate. Show no mercy.
RetroNaz
03-03-2010, 11:37 PM
But seriously, it's got to stop. I stopped posting in here because of the snarky behaviour which dominated the proper conversations in here.
Now it's just a lame Krasinski vs the world feud.
^Which is really annoying.
The Porter "news" if true, makes Mike Vogel my #1 choice.
It also make Porter the new Henry Cavill.
Cavill lost out on Bond, Supes, Bats, and GL
Porter would have lost out on Flash, Supes (JLM), GL, and Capatain America.
Porter is loved by WB and very much wants to play a superhero. Should he not be Cap, I'd say he's a shoe in for Berlanti's Flash movie.
Majik1387
03-03-2010, 11:46 PM
To be fair, I see just as much grade school pettiness from both sides on Krasinski, don't just be blaming one side.
Also if Porter is really out, Vogel is also my second choice.:up:
Wolvieboy17
03-03-2010, 11:48 PM
Okay, heres an idea to try and get us all back on track...
Imagine, for a moment, that all the possible contenders looked the same. They all had classically handsome faces, and athletic bodies. Imagine then, to choose, looks were entirely not an issue. Who then would people go for? Lets see if we can be entirely objective... For instance, I found scott porter to have a really annoying face, but if I take that away, it makes it easier to weigh up pros and cons.
Come on people, lets get objective! lol
flickchick85
03-03-2010, 11:50 PM
^Which is really annoying.
The Porter "news" if true, makes Mike Vogel my #1 choice.
Another note about this "news": I feel the need to admit that I read ONTD quite often, and as someone in that post already pointed out, the person on ONTD who delivered that "news" about Porter and Krasinski is also the same person who, in a Glee post, had some rather fanciful claims about his/her experiences with that cast as well. He or she strikes me as someone who lives a very vivid imaginary Hollywood life. So again, grain of salt, folks.
That said, Vogel seems less boyish to me than Porter, so he'd probably be my back-up choice as well.
RetroNaz
03-03-2010, 11:50 PM
Nice try Wolvie, I commend you on that. I just don't think I have the energy for it anymore. I'm a little burnt out by all the other nonsense to enjoy talking about his casting anymore - yet I keep coming in here to check up on the latest news and info.
Wolvieboy17
03-03-2010, 11:58 PM
Nice try Wolvie, I commend you on that. I just don't think I have the energy for it anymore. I'm a little burnt out by all the other nonsense to enjoy talking about his casting anymore - yet I keep coming in here to check up on the latest news and info.
I guess i'm just a trooper lol.
RetroNaz
03-04-2010, 12:08 AM
I guess i'm just a trooper lol.
lol most certainly sir. A good attitude to have in these parts :up:
Rock Sexton
03-04-2010, 12:21 AM
It would be simpler if people just didn't act so grade schoolish and learn to discuss with civility. It's bad enough the way people talk about other posters....but when people can't even discuss an actor without resorting to acting like a third grader, it just gets pretty darn annoying. Once someone starts saying things like how some actor looks retarded....then nothing they say after that is worth considering in an intelligent conversation.
C. Lee,
I respect you as a mod, but you're blowing the reference out of portion. I didn't say Kraz was retarded looking. I said the photoshop of him gave him an enlarged forehead like one and looking more like Timmy from South Park.
I apologize for trying to get a laugh. However, I do think he looks dopey/goofy and it has zero to do with my maturity.
Rock Sexton
03-04-2010, 12:24 AM
Well, here's where you go, "yep, that explains it" - I don't read comics. I mean, I've read Watchmen, and a couple of random Catwoman stories people on the Batman boards recommended, but that's it. I grew up on the early 90's cartoons (Batman, X-men, Spidey), so most of my knowledge comes from those, and they were so long ago that the visuals are pretty much blurs in my memory at this point. But I do love these superhero movies when done right, and my best guy-friend is a massive comics reader, so we talk about the characters and their stories a lot. And that's what interests me about these movies - the characters and stories. So I guess I'm not as married to the visuals as most of you comics readers are, which is why its easier for me to picture out-of-the-box choices working, while I can still understand why some hardcore fans would have a problem with it.
I'm not an avid comic book fan either. I just happen to be familiar with some of the more major characters. I associate guys like Thor, Captain America, etc. with their look as well as their story.
Rock Sexton
03-04-2010, 12:28 AM
But seriously, it's got to stop. I stopped posting in here because of the snarky behaviour which dominated the proper conversations in here.
Now it's just a lame Krasinski vs the world feud.
Consider the genesis of it all.
The moment anyone started anti-Kraz posts, the pro-faction got offended, almost like it was them personally getting attacked. Go back and start re-reading the thread, you'll see for yourself.
It works both ways. I'm all for more civil play around here.
RetroNaz
03-04-2010, 12:34 AM
Consider the genesis of it all.
The moment anyone started anti-Kraz posts, the pro-faction got offended, almost like it was them personally getting attacked. Go back and start re-reading the thread, you'll see for yourself.
It works both ways. I'm all for more civil play around here.
No offence, but IMO you are one of the worst offenders in here.
Rock Sexton
03-04-2010, 12:43 AM
No offence, but IMO you are one of the worst offenders in here.
None taken. Right back at you.
C. Lee
03-04-2010, 12:45 AM
C. Lee,
I respect you as a mod, but you're blowing the reference out of portion. I didn't say Kraz was retarded looking. I said the photoshop of him gave him an enlarged forehead like one and looking more like Timmy from South Park.
I apologize for trying to get a laugh. However, I do think he looks dopey/goofy and it has zero to do with my maturity.
I'm not blowing it out of proportion. You said that you thought he looked like a "special ed" kid. When others called you on the carpet for that (because people in special ed have all types of looks) you changed your story to say you meant to say the manip makes him look like he has 'downs syndrome'.
You need to apologize for trying to get a laugh by making fun of and belittleing how other people look. I think that someone who spends almost all of his posts to constantly call an actor a succesion of names like goofy/dopey/etc as someone who is acting like a troll.
I am not for Krazinsky to be Cap....but I don't have to make my side seem superior by constantly making snide remarks about those who do like him or to spend all my time on the Hype calling the actor names. So in my opinion it definately deals with your emotional maturity when you continue to act this way.
If you can not discuss and debate without acting that way...then it would be best for you not to post in this thread.
Let's keep the discussion to the casting, not each other guys. Like C. Lee, I also have a twitching ban finger.
RetroNaz
03-04-2010, 12:46 AM
None taken. Right back at you.
Well atleast we finally agree on something :up: haha.
Rock Sexton
03-04-2010, 12:54 AM
I'm not blowing it out of proportion. You said that you thought he looked like a "special ed" kid. When others called you on the carpet for that (because people in special ed have all types of looks) you changed your story to say you meant to say the manip makes him look like he has 'downs syndrome'.
You need to apologize for trying to get a laugh by making fun of and belittleing how other people look. I think that someone who spends almost all of his posts to constantly call an actor a succesion of names like goofy/dopey/etc as someone who is acting like a troll.
I am not for Krazinsky to be Cap....but I don't have to make my side seem superior by constantly making snide remarks about those who do like him or to spend all my time on the Hype calling the actor names. So in my opinion it definately deals with your emotional maturity when you continue to act this way.
If you can not discuss and debate without acting that way...then it would be best for you not to post in this thread.
Once again it was not a dig at how he "really" looks. It was the photoshop'ed enlarged forehead. If that was an offense worthy of being "called onto the carpet" then I think the whole entire board needs to be sifted thru with a fine tooth comb. I've seen plenty-a-post on this board with juvenile humor so to insinuate I ravage the board with immaturity is not even close to the truth. There's so much of it on here, it's actually what makes it fun..... except when it's posters calling individual posters out. That I don't agree with. I've kept the majority of my comments directed at Krasinski, but it seems to get a reaction as if I'm talking directly to the posters who get huffy about it.
Secondly, it has nothing to do with "superiority" or "maturity"..... it is my right to have an opinion that he looks goofy/dopey just as it is your right or anyone elses right to think he's handsome. It's a contrast of opinion. Is calling DJ Qualls "goofy" a maturity issue as well? No. I think you get my point.
louiebling$
03-04-2010, 12:56 AM
Let's keep the discussion to the casting, not each other guys. Like C. Lee, I also have a twitching ban finger.
Submit to the twitch :hehe:
Peer pressure....peer pressure...... peer pressure... come one Marx all the cool mods are doing it :o
Rock Sexton
03-04-2010, 12:58 AM
Well atleast we finally agree on something :up: haha.
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ImWithTeamConan
03-04-2010, 12:58 AM
Since we've heard nothing after that whole fiasco about the screen tests, I would assume one of two things:
1. Krasinski is it (happy day!)
2. Someone from left field is on the way
C. Lee
03-04-2010, 01:04 AM
Once again it was not a dig at how he "really" looks. It was the photoshop'ed enlarged forehead. If that was an offense worthy of being "called onto the carpet" then I think the whole entire board needs to be sifted thru with a fine tooth comb. I've seen plenty-a-post on this board with juvenile humor so to insinuate I ravage the board with immaturity is not even close to the truth. There's so much of it on here, it's actually what makes it fun..... except when it's posters calling individual posters out. That I don't agree with. I've kept the majority of my comments directed at Krasinski, but it seems to get a reaction as if I'm talking directly to the posters who get huffy about it.
Secondly, it has nothing to do with "superiority" or "maturity"..... it is my right to have an opinion that he looks goofy/dopey just as it is your right or anyone elses right to think he's handsome. It's a contrast of opinion. Is calling DJ Qualls "goofy" a maturity issue as well? No. I think you get my point.
I spend most of my time on here "sifting" through the site and handing out warnings for crass behavior.Right now I am in here.
Your posts against Krazinsky gets responses because you tend to add a snide comment about the posters who like him...which then makes it personal.
Yes, it is your right to have an opinion and express it. But as with anything....too much is too much. I said in one post that I thought D. J. Qualls was goofy looking. Besides the fact that he makes his living with his offbeat looks....saying it once is one thing, saying it a few dozen times a day is another.
Rock Sexton
03-04-2010, 01:09 AM
I spend most of my time on here "sifting" through the site and handing out warnings for crass behavior.Right now I am in here.
Your posts against Krazinsky gets responses because you tend to add a snide comment about the posters who like him...which then makes it personal.
Yes, it is your right to have an opinion and express it. But as with anything....too much is too much. I said in one post that I thought D. J. Qualls was goofy looking. Besides the fact that he makes his living with his offbeat looks....saying it once is one thing, saying it a few dozen times a day is another.
Seriously. I'm at a loss from the irony of the post. I'm just being honest. Literally the SAME thing has been said a thousand times by both sides of the argument ..... it's not really that surprising as both sides have strong opinions.
But again, my comments were directed at Krasinksi. The mere fact that I didn't think he was good looking seemed to enrage the pro-faction as some sort of personal insult. Then when somebody didn't like the comments or my flair for sarcasm in describing him, personal shots were taken and I responded like-wise. I'm not going to say I'm innocent, I've probably fired off a couple of sarcastic comments at people, but again it's something I've seen thousands of times in all my time reading this board.
.........so Captain America .....when is this movie coming out again? :cwink:
RetroNaz
03-04-2010, 01:22 AM
Since we've heard nothing after that whole fiasco about the screen tests, I would assume one of two things:
1. Krasinski is it (happy day!)
2. Someone from left field is on the way
I'm almost willing to put money on Krasinski scoring the role.
It'd be sweet though, if the someone from left field turned out to be Pine :)
WillardNation
03-04-2010, 01:39 AM
I spend most of my time on here "sifting" through the site and handing out warnings for crass behavior.Right now I am in here.
Your posts against Krazinsky gets responses because you tend to add a snide comment about the posters who like him...which then makes it personal.
Yes, it is your right to have an opinion and express it. But as with anything....too much is too much. I said in one post that I thought D. J. Qualls was goofy looking. Besides the fact that he makes his living with his offbeat looks....saying it once is one thing, saying it a few dozen times a day is another.
Seriously. I'm at a loss from the irony of the post. I'm just being honest. Literally the SAME thing has been said a thousand times by both sides of the argument ..... it's not really that surprising as both sides have strong opinions.
But again, my comments were directed at Krasinksi. The mere fact that I didn't think he was good looking seemed to enrage the pro-faction as some sort of personal insult. Then when somebody didn't like the comments or my flair for sarcasm in describing him, personal shots were taken and I responded like-wise. I'm not going to say I'm innocent, I've probably fired off a couple of sarcastic comments at people, but again it's something I've seen thousands of times in all my time reading this board.
There's only one way to solve this: 10 rounds of bare knuckle boxing. I'll ref.
ImWithTeamConan
03-04-2010, 02:05 AM
I'm almost willing to put money on Krasinski scoring the role.
It'd be sweet though, if the someone from left field turned out to be Pine :)
Read my mind mate, but the odds look bleak at the moment.
RetroNaz
03-04-2010, 02:06 AM
Read my mind mate, but the odds look bleak at the moment.
Yeah scheduling and $ probably stopped it from being a done deal. (assuming the rumours of him being in talks for the role were true ofcourse)
Webhead2006
03-04-2010, 03:04 AM
Well it would be disapointing if porter didnt get the role. He is one of the few from the list we know i wouldnt mind seeing as cap. and i really hope he lands a superhero role in the next few yrs. As for him being cast in a pilot for CW, well from what i read they have 5 pilot orders casting/filming right now. But who knows how many if any will actually get series order. So for all we know he could do this pilot, it doesnt get picked up for series and he is free for the late summer shoot date for cap.
As for the buckley/bucky rumor. well even if buckley ends up as bucky. And if its john k for cap. We dont know how they will end up looking come time for filming. And if these two or buckley and one of the others is cap it will probably be like thor. Thor/loki relatively unknown actors and the rest of the cast is bigger names, like the doctor guy, any big military characters, plus the invaders, and red skull.
MegaDexx
03-04-2010, 03:15 AM
This feels like the calm before the storm. Can you feel the anticipation building? I sure can. Many opinions have been expressed in this thread, some For, some Against, and some in the middle. We can all agree that were all passionate Cap fans that's for sure.
I'll just say this before signing off, the way things are looking coupled with reports being heard, and the hype that's been building up, both here and around the Net. They're all pointing to one thing happening....
http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww260/Think_Mcfly_Think/krasinskirogers.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=126 7237457333
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3697/captain20america20stat2bl9.jpg
It's Coming!!! :cap:
Majik1387
03-04-2010, 03:22 AM
I'd like to see that Krasinski pic before photoshop, because his head's shape looks really odd to me
Rock Sexton
03-04-2010, 03:38 AM
There's only one way to solve this: 10 rounds of bare knuckle boxing. I'll ref.
JCVD "Kickboxer" style ......:hehe:
http://members.cox.net/rocksexton/kickboxer.jpg
Young Superman
03-04-2010, 03:48 AM
I'm still hoping for Garrett Hedlund to be cast as Steve Rogers / Captain America.
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5433/mrhedlunddotcom1721.jpghttp://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/captain-america.jpg
The Shredder
03-04-2010, 04:05 AM
http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww260/Think_Mcfly_Think/krasinskirogers.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=126 7237457333
It's Coming!!! :cap:
Not bad. :up:
Probably one of the least photoshopped pics I've seen of JK in this thread, but the simplicity works and is probably one of my favourites of him that I've seen so far.
SpiderByte
03-04-2010, 05:27 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/romcas/CapKrasinski3c2.jpg
I now am 150% sure JK could work as Cap.
Not bad. :up:
Probably one of the least photoshopped pics I've seen of JK in this thread, but the simplicity works and is probably one of my favourites of him that I've seen so far.
http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww260/Think_Mcfly_Think/krasinskirogers.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=126 7237457333 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/romcas/_____ajkltwpdvd143b.jpg
Sorry to disagree/disappoint you Shredder but that picture has been heavily photo-shopped, a lot more then it seems (not just the blond hair & shirt which one focuses on). Just had a look at the original picture (as features wise, didn’t look like any pic of JK I’d seen), the face (left side in particular) & chin have been photo-shopped to give him a more squared jaw, the nose has been subtlety changed to give it a thinner appearance and the ears have been reduced as well.
Unless JK has extreme plastic surgery wouldn’t use this pic to judge how he’ll look as Cap (very very nice subtle photo-shopping though whoever did it, Megadexx?)
MessiahDecoy123
03-04-2010, 06:05 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/romcas/CapKrasinski3c2.jpg
No way Krasinski gets that big. It's not that easy to pack on that much muscle.
Aesop Rocks
03-04-2010, 06:08 AM
http://i46.tinypic.com/2079qux.jpg
Aesop Rocks
03-04-2010, 06:09 AM
http://i49.tinypic.com/2yx3qti.jpg
Oh I'm sorry, should I stop proving you wrong?
Aesop Rocks
03-04-2010, 06:11 AM
http://i50.tinypic.com/wugkgi.jpg
Brian Braddock
03-04-2010, 06:21 AM
The thing about that though is that Equilibrium pic proves that Bale had one all important thing going for him in regards to his speedy replenishment of muscle lost for the Machinist which Krasinski [from the looks of him] wont have; namely muscle memory. Something that's been discussed on here previously.
Bales body had been conditioned to be in shape after years of training.
MessiahDecoy123
03-04-2010, 06:29 AM
Bale was the exception not the rule. If you think any actor can put on 60 pounds of muscle in a couple of months, you're sorely mistaken.
Antonello Blueberry
03-04-2010, 06:33 AM
But what will they do with a muscle bound Krasinki in the Office?
I think they will use a body double and a muscle suit.
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