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piccolo
03-04-2010, 08:38 PM
I don't understand the "If they're wrong with JK, then Marvel is 2-1, and it's not that great of a record.
You're basically using a hypothetical to support your argument that Marvel isn't necessarily perfect with casting. "If they're wrong, then it supports my argument that they could be wrong."
And you're isolating an ad addendum to the main point of the post and using it to invalidate the entire thing. Which is just as ridiculous. Did you even read the rest...?
RetroNaz
03-04-2010, 09:10 PM
Yeah. Let's all just stop arguing about Krasinski for the next....24 hours. See how that goes.
Current time (here) is 9:25 P.M....24 hour ceasefire begins...NOW!
I'm up for that! I think this thread is in need of a bit of a holiday from it too. :hehe:
SpiderByte
03-04-2010, 09:18 PM
And you're isolating an ad addendum to the main point of the post and using it to invalidate the entire thing. Which is just as ridiculous. Did you even read the rest...?
*Gives "I'll kill you glare".*
Twenty. Four. Hours.
captaintass
03-04-2010, 09:35 PM
Captain America (being the pinnacle of human perfection) should be built like this:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/spidey_christine/Randy-Orton.jpg
RetroNaz
03-04-2010, 09:41 PM
lol some Randy Orton love in the room?
alexdunn
03-04-2010, 09:43 PM
ughhh
OptimusPrime114
03-04-2010, 09:46 PM
According to **************.com (ugh), Michael Cassidy says "No Captain America for Me" on his twitter page.
I SEE SPIDEY
03-04-2010, 09:55 PM
I love how people want actors to look exactly like there comicbook counterparts. In all honesty I do want and goodlooking guy who is in shape cast but I'm more concerned with acting ability and charisma.
I thought Brandon Routh "looked" like Superman but he showed himself to be too meh for the role, leading me to be happy about his recasting.
Colossal Spoons
03-04-2010, 09:56 PM
Randy's physique is entirely too lanky to be Cap, IMO
RetroNaz
03-04-2010, 09:56 PM
Any idea when the official word will be given guys? Or is it any day now?
Asgard
03-04-2010, 09:57 PM
Lol.
Capt America RKO-ing Red Skull. Book it Marvel!
Dude looks like Freddy Krueger on steroids sans 5th degree burns.
SpiderByte
03-04-2010, 09:57 PM
Okay, so it's down to five.
So far, so good with the peace.
8Diagrams(WU)
03-04-2010, 10:01 PM
You will never ever see a wrestler take on one of these main roles. They do have a direct translation of what the comics body shape is but the nature of the wrestling medium doesnt match well with a motion picture project. Directors arent big fans of that. Theres also the acting part of it to consider.
Were more than likely going to continue to see good looking people with work out physiques...even though I think were also moving away from the good loking people only criteria into an acting capability criteria in this new age
Asgard
03-04-2010, 10:05 PM
They do have a direct translation of what the comics body shape is but the nature of the wrestling medium doesnt match well with a motion picture medium.
Isnt wrestling just live theater with better choreographed fighting?
I SEE SPIDEY
03-04-2010, 10:05 PM
I can't wait till this damn thing is cast!
The fanboys will mostly stop arguing when Krasinski, Pine and Ackles don't get the role.
flickchick85
03-04-2010, 10:08 PM
I wish Peter Krause was in his mid to late 20's .....
He would KILL it. Great range as an actor. Commanding voice. Rugged, handsome looks.
http://www.reelmovienews.com/files/peter-krause.jpg
Hmmm...well, no doubt he could act the hell outta the part, but IDK about looking perfect if he were younger. I always thought Jason Dohring from Veronica Mars looked exactly like a younger Peter Krause (in his mid-20's), and he looks about as much like Cap's drawings as He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named (and is not Voldemort) does:
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6941/jdoh121.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1364/jdoh25.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6774/jdoh001835gc.jpg
But in the spirit of agreement, I do agree with you on Ryan McPartlin. I think he could have been a great choice, and I would certainly prefer him over anyone on this list. :yay:
Rock Sexton
03-04-2010, 10:08 PM
I love how people want actors to look exactly like there comicbook counterparts. In all honesty I do want and goodlooking guy who is in shape cast but I'm more concerned with acting ability and charisma.
I thought Brandon Routh "looked" like Superman but he showed himself to be too meh for the role, leading me to be happy about his recasting.
Not "exactly" like ...... we want a quality R-E-S-E-M-B-L-A-N-C-E. It's not humanly possible to get an exact look alike.
I cannot repeat this enough.
Rock Sexton
03-04-2010, 10:12 PM
Hmmm...well, no doubt he could act the hell outta the part, but IDK about looking perfect if he were younger. I always thought Jason Dohring from Veronica Mars looked exactly like a younger Peter Krause (in his mid-20's), and he looks about as much like Cap's drawings as He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named (and is not Voldemort) does:
But in the spirit of agreement, I do agree with you on Ryan McPartlin. I think he could have been a great choice, and I would certainly prefer him over anyone on this list. :yay:
Jason Dohring actually looks like the love child of Kasinski and Krause haha. Krause has more linear features.
I wish I could see the McPartlin audition. I'm really curious to know why he wasn't considered among the finalists.
Project862006
03-04-2010, 10:15 PM
Cassidy is out
http://www.**************.com/fansites/Poniverse/news/?a=15525
Spider-Fan
03-04-2010, 10:27 PM
Wonder if this means casting process is over, or if they just are eliminating 1-2 per round so to speak.
BenReilly
03-04-2010, 10:27 PM
The only casting choice that Marvel got dead on (and I was against it until I saw the movie) was RDJ for Iron Man.
Marvel didn't even want to cast RDJ and were against it at first. That brilliant piece of casting was Jon Favreau's idea. Favreau was the one that wanted to cast Downey and managed to convince the studio that he was the guy. Generally speaking, it's ironic seeing so many people credit Marvel for the Downey casting, when it was Favreau's doing.
Gamma Goliath
03-04-2010, 10:28 PM
This is ridiculous, I wish they would just tell us, I'm tired of people debating on whether JK should or shouldn't get the role, and its getting really boring trying to play "guess who" the captain america edition.
flickchick85
03-04-2010, 10:29 PM
I wish I could see the McPartlin audition. I'm really curious to know why he wasn't considered among the finalists.
Me too, but I remember reading a quote from JJ (too lazy to find a link right now) way before this list came out, saying that they were having a hard time finding someone who could not just be convincing as the heroic super-soldier, but also as the weakling outsider. I have a feeling if McPartlin had a major failing, it was that they didn't think he would be convincing as the latter. His uber-masculine voice probably didn't help on that front. :csad:
Project862006
03-04-2010, 10:34 PM
i dont think anyone can really do the pre serum well kras is like 6'3 and he isn't puny
I SEE SPIDEY
03-04-2010, 10:35 PM
Marvel didn't even want to cast RDJ and were against it at first. That brilliant piece of casting was Jon Favreau's idea. Favreau was the one that wanted to cast Downey and managed to convince the studio that he was the guy. Generally speaking, it's ironic seeing so many people credit Marvel for the Downey casting, when it was Favreau's doing.
Listen I'm the last one to give Marvel credit like others do because they'd only hit the nail on the head once but I'll give RDJ casting to them because in the end he wouldn't have been cast unless they allowed it to happen.
Rock Sexton
03-04-2010, 10:36 PM
Me too, but I remember reading a quote from JJ (too lazy to find a link right now) way before this list came out, saying that they were having a hard time finding someone who could not just be convincing as the heroic super-soldier, but also as the weakling outsider. I have a feeling if McPartlin had a major failing, it was that they didn't think he would be convincing as the latter. His uber-masculine voice probably didn't help on that front. :csad:
Perhaps...... but then again, for me I imagine Cap having that kind of commanding, "you better pay attention" kind of tone. They're going to have to bend a little bit with one or the other when it comes to super soldier and weakling outsider.
blinkuldhc
03-04-2010, 10:56 PM
They really should have turned this process into a reality show, if they're eliminating them on at a time
BenReilly
03-04-2010, 10:58 PM
Listen I'm the last one to give Marvel credit like others do because they'd only hit the nail on the head once but I'll give RDJ casting to them because in the end he wouldn't have been cast unless they allowed it to happen.
Yeah, but that's how it is for mostly any film. At the end of the day, the studio has to approve of who ever is cast. It's their money that's on the line. Just saying that Downey wasn't a studio choice, far from it.
So is it Vogel, Krasinski, and Crawford left? Go Vogel Go!
I SEE SPIDEY
03-04-2010, 11:22 PM
I seriously doubt they would pick Crawford. He shouldn't even be in the running because is a vapid waste of an actor. I can't think of a worse choice than him.
Gossip Girl could be a Superhero mining field. Crawford as Cap, Blake as Carol Ferris. Maybe Leighton Meester and Penn Badgely will be in superhero movies next.
Seriously, I think it will be Vogel. We know he wants it, and I can see him as both pre and post serum Steve.
Rock Sexton
03-04-2010, 11:42 PM
OMG ..... 50% of the voters (8,714 voted) on the main page don't agree with any of the names on the list. :hehe:
flickchick85
03-04-2010, 11:45 PM
Perhaps...... but then again, for me I imagine Cap having that kind of commanding, "you better pay attention" kind of tone.
So did I, but judging from the voices of the guys left in the running, it doesn't appear that JJ & Co. feel the same way. None of the final candidates have particularly wimpy voices (of the ones I know, that is), but they aren't overtly deep or commanding voices, either.
I SEE SPIDEY
03-04-2010, 11:53 PM
Gossip Girl could be a Superhero mining field. Crawford as Cap, Blake as Carol Ferris. Maybe Leighton Meester and Penn Badgely will be in superhero movies next.
Seriously, I think it will be Vogel. We know he wants it, and I can see him as both pre and post serum Steve.Meester and Westwick are the only reason I still watch GG.
Meester would make a fine Lois Lane IMHO.
Deaths Head II
03-04-2010, 11:56 PM
I really don't see Crawford getting it. I'm really surprised he lasted this long.
I think it's down to Vogel and Krasinsky. Which is cool with me, because I'd be happy with either. :word:
Rock Sexton
03-05-2010, 12:00 AM
.......... Seriously let's just get Krause botox'ed up anywhere he might have wrinkles. Although in his defense, he is a young looking older man. I mean crap, we always have 20-30 year olds playing high schoolers these days.
I was thinking about him in the HBO series "Six Feet Under" and that guy did everything. There were times when he struggled, times when he was devastated, times when he was loving life, times when he was forceful and commanding, not to mention times when he was angry.
It's too bad we can't get a casting like that for Cap.
I SEE SPIDEY
03-05-2010, 12:07 AM
As long as the guy they get doesn't lack charisma and is a fairly decent actor who is hot er attractive, I will be fine.
piccolo
03-05-2010, 12:24 AM
*Gives "I'll kill you glare".*
Twenty. Four. Hours.
Byte me.
the_tortel
03-05-2010, 12:24 AM
i dont think anyone can really do the pre serum well kras is like 6'3 and he isn't puny
THANK YOU...I don't know how many times I've heard someone say something like "Krasinski just couldn't get fit enough for the role" or words to that effect, it's bull-crap!!
This guy is an active man, he takes care of himself, I bet he could run circles around any one of us... Especially me! I'm 6'1" myself, weigh 185, but I'm not a runner, definitely not in a runner's shape, very easily winded....but that's me!!
From what I've heard he is a very good runner, idk who this comedian was but he was going on about this story how his wife had a crush on John, and he was in a hotel gym and was on the treadmil next to his and he was making the comedian guy look like an old man and I think that only increased his jealousy...but either way I'm not basing my whole "he's already in good shape" argument on this guy's stand up special I saw on comedy central a couple months ago. I just know the guy's not a couch potato, and if he hit the weights he'd have the big ol' arms like the Captain America we've always wanted
As long as they guy they get doesn't lack charisma and is a fairly decent actor who is hot er attractive, I will be fine.
lol...
jab1118
03-05-2010, 12:25 AM
All of these guys just seem so small except for krasinski who has his own issues. I just don't see how marvel could narrow it down to these guys. I think that's the main reason I like John besides being a good actor which porter is too and I don't know any of these other guys. John is the only one of them with a bulkier build who would look imposing
The Shredder
03-05-2010, 12:27 AM
It's too bad we can't get a casting like that for Cap.
As far as wish list's go, it's a damn shame Aaron Eckhart's in his early 40's, rather than his early 30's. Would have been my ultimate choice.
piccolo
03-05-2010, 12:27 AM
Chace Crawford looks like a woman.
I SEE SPIDEY
03-05-2010, 12:57 AM
Chace Crawford looks like a woman.Exactly. Not only that but he has an annoying vacant look in his eyes and he is just an all around lame actor. He is nothing but a pretty face and to be honest I only find him to be attractive in a bland way.
If Marvel picks him I'd have no interest in ever watching Captain America.
louiebling$
03-05-2010, 01:55 AM
I want Crawford for Cyclops/Scott not Cap.
I SEE SPIDEY
03-05-2010, 02:06 AM
I'd perfer somebody who can act be Cyke.
Majik1387
03-05-2010, 02:16 AM
Captain America (being the pinnacle of human perfection) should be built like this:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/spidey_christine/Randy-Orton.jpg
No...:dry:
Any idea when the official word will be given guys? Or is it any day now?
Supposedly any day now
According to **************.com (ugh), Michael Cassidy says "No Captain America for Me" on his twitter page.
Cassidy is out
http://www.**************.com/fansites/Poniverse/news/?a=15525
No big disappointment for me
Isnt wrestling just live theater with better choreographed fighting?
No. It's bad "theatre" with horrible fight choreography
So is it Vogel, Krasinski, and Crawford left? Go Vogel Go!
You forgot Porter. I refuse to believe that blogger girl.
Chace Crawford looks like a woman.
Exactly. Not only that but he has an annoying vacant look in his eyes and he is just an all around lame actor. He is nothing but a pretty face and to be honest I only find him to be attractive in a bland way.
He doesn't look like a woman, he's just a pretty boy. Nothing wrong with that, but not what I want for cap, but I'd take him over Krasinski.
I SEE SPIDEY
03-05-2010, 02:44 AM
^Good thing you aren't casting the movie.
craigdbfan
03-05-2010, 02:49 AM
Chace Crawford is like the Cap as much as my left thigh is Ant Man.
Agent 194
03-05-2010, 02:50 AM
Ughhh.
craigdbfan
03-05-2010, 02:51 AM
Captain America (being the pinnacle of human perfection) should be built like this:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/spidey_christine/Randy-Orton.jpg
What the heck... :dry:
I SEE SPIDEY
03-05-2010, 03:04 AM
I do believe that the suppose straight male posters on Hype put up more pictures of naked men than the women or gay guys do. It makes a girl wonder sometimes..
Webhead2006
03-05-2010, 03:58 AM
Well actually i was going through all the picks a few days ago and all of them are 6ft+ minus vogel at 5'11. Which i dont think is to short at all. Since cap is only what 6'2 in the comics i believe. So with boots/mask-helmet vogel could be in right shape.
I feel sorry for poor michael cassidy on not getting the role. HE seems like a nice guy, and isnt to bad of an actor from what i seen of him. Though he wasnt who i wanted for cap myself. As for porter if he is out too for sure i feel reall bad for him. Since he is a huge comic fan and i really liked him as potential. But if he is out with that cw pilot if it goes to series. I would hope he might have another shot at a DC hero with doing the flash. If greg berlanti's version actually gets up and running(pun intended).
So if we are really down to Garrett hedlund, chance crawford, john krasinski, mike vogel, and that patrick flueger and that other guy. Out of this list i would perfer to go with hedlund or vogel. I think either of those two would be a good fit.
As for john i dont hate the guy, dont really know the guys work. Never really watched the office. But i agree he does have alot of good qualities about himself. That could work great for cap. Plus i am sure with the time given he on the right diet/training could get in much better shape. We have no clue how any of the picks will look come time to actual filming to start in late june.
Plus we dont know how hair/makeup will be, and how the costume will fit/look on said actor's body. So i am willing to give any of the guys a shot. I am sure any will probably end up doing a decent job as cap. So i cant wait to we know for sure who the heck it is.
Asgard
03-05-2010, 04:07 AM
I do believe that the suppose straight male posters on Hype put up more pictures of naked men than the women or gay guys do. It makes a girl wonder sometimes..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOm64YHDDik
captaintass
03-05-2010, 07:00 AM
Jeez, people! I was NOT advocating a wrestler (much less a crappy mic guy like Orton) to play Cap! I was saying that whoever is cast as Cap should be built like Orton...not BE Orton!
Give me some credit, please.
ultimatefan
03-05-2010, 07:02 AM
Seriously now, Johnson said his deadline to cast Cap was March 1st. This means we should be hearing an official announcement any moment now.
captaintass
03-05-2010, 07:11 AM
Randy's physique is entirely too lanky to be Cap, IMO
ENTIRELY? Don't know that I agree with that. I agree that Orton's physique isn't what I picture in my head as Cap BUT:
1) Hemsworth is Thor. Whoever is Cap can't put Thor to shame buffed-wise. A mere mortal shouldn't be bigger and stronger looking than an immortal warrior god.
2) They draw Cap HUGE in the comics. I mean, just look how thick his wrists and forearms are! Unattainable by a real person. Michael Jai White has a good combination of size and agility (go watch 'Blood and Bone') but alas, he's a little long in the tooth and has a higher melanin content than the part calls for. :)
8Diagrams(WU)
03-05-2010, 07:37 AM
ENTIRELY? Don't know that I agree with that. I agree that Orton's physique isn't what I picture in my head as Cap BUT:
1) Hemsworth is Thor. Whoever is Cap can't put Thor to shame buffed-wise. A mere mortal shouldn't be bigger and stronger looking than an immortal warrior god.
2) They draw Cap HUGE in the comics. I mean, just look how thick his wrists and forearms are! Unattainable by a real person. Michael Jai White has a good combination of size and agility (go watch 'Blood and Bone') but alas, he's a little long in the tooth and has a higher melanin content than the part calls for. :)
This is a good point and I think this is an aspect they are keeping an eye on when casting. Thor is supposed to be a god. Hes the only one supposed to be huge and perfect looking in comparison to humans.
HUMANIMAL
03-05-2010, 07:57 AM
This is a good point and I think this is an aspect they are keeping an eye on when casting. Thor is supposed to be a god. Hes the only one supposed to be huge and perfect looking in comparison to humans.
xactly!!!
Majik, I was going by Jamie and not the blogger girl.
captaintass
03-05-2010, 08:16 AM
This is a good point and I think this is an aspect they are keeping an eye on when casting. Thor is supposed to be a god. Hes the only one supposed to be huge and perfect looking in comparison to humans.
To be fair, most heroes are portrayed as 'perfect looking' in the comics. I was just saying that Cap shouldn't be bigger than Thor. Cap should look perfect and so should Thor.
piccolo
03-05-2010, 08:20 AM
All this could have been solved by giving Skarsgaard Thor, and making Chris Hemsworth Cap. Both are near spitting images of the respective characters, and both are good actors.
I like Hemsworth as Thor, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying...
All this could have been solved by giving Skarsgaard Thor, and making Chris Hemsworth Cap. Both are near spitting images of the respective characters, and both are good actors.
I like Hemsworth as Thor, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying...
Hemsworth was most likely considered but didn't get the role because they wanted an American to play Cap.
Khemik@L
03-05-2010, 08:30 AM
This is a good point and I think this is an aspect they are keeping an eye on when casting. Thor is supposed to be a god. Hes the only one supposed to be huge and perfect looking in comparison to humans.
This is exactly why I try to avoid these pointless arguments:
No amount of arguing is gonna change anything. We can type until our fingers bleed it is not gonna change who is cast. And you wanna know why because they (the film makers) have all the facts and we the fan boys only have a fantasy base pre-constructed idea of what we think a person might look and act like as our fav hero.
We judge base on the persons past work/films/tv shows etc. And because we never saw the person acting like our fav hero we draw the conclusion that the person cannot act or look like him.
But guess what, the film makers actually get to see the actors as the character. Isn't that what a screen test is? Where they come to set dress up in the costume and read the lines? And that is what they base their decision on.
This is why I will always trust the film maker over the fan boy because the film maker have more facts to base their decision on as oppose to the fan boy. We may all be saying this guy is perfect as cap. But in the screen test he is horrible. Imma trust the guy that sees the bigger picture.
It's similar to how the fans want Daniel Day Lewis for just about every villain role. He is a great actor. He fits many of the roles that people suggest him for. But chances are he would never do it. And if he doesn't want to do it, then how can we expect him to be good at it?
SpiderByte
03-05-2010, 08:45 AM
12 hours of peace, guys. Good work.
12 hours more, and then maybe we can be nicer to each other.
Maybe :hehe:
I think we're saving all the nerd rage for the casting announcement :p
Nirvana
03-05-2010, 08:58 AM
Vogel, Crawford and Krasinski left? I'll be so pissed if Crawford gets it.
Here's why Porter is definitively out of the running..
After Marvel got burned by Zachary Levi, Marvel won't take the chance on losing an actor for a TV role. Especially since the casting is integral to future films, which need to occur on schedule (otherwise Downey, Norton, Jackson could be tied up -- Downey could age even moreso, etc)
If the pilot was received well, he'd be obligated to continue. Presumably, studios, especially smaller ones like CW wouldn't go forth with filming a pilot without some commitment from main leads if the show tests well.
Details:
http://themovieblog.com/2009/11/zachary-levi-left-thor-for-chucks-early-return
You forgot Porter. I refuse to believe that blogger girl.
If you're referring to Ausiello, the source of the pilot talk?
Timstuff
03-05-2010, 09:40 AM
Crawford would be better than Vogel. Vogel is not even 6' and he is not even close to the physique that Cap is supposed to have.
RetroNaz
03-05-2010, 09:52 AM
12 hours of peace, guys. Good work.
12 hours more, and then maybe we can be nicer to each other.
Maybe :hehe:
You do realise that once this is all over we reserve the right to go all out on each other when the casting announcement is official? :woot:
I think we need to get some preapproval from a mod, haha. 24 hours of absolute mayhem! woohoo!:hehe:
Dr. Sid Jawtug
03-05-2010, 09:52 AM
Scott Porter (my pick) has signed to do a show for the CW called Nomads. Does this mean he is out of the running?
The Shredder
03-05-2010, 09:54 AM
Vogel, Crawford and Krasinski left? I'll be so pissed if Crawford gets it.
You and me both.
The_Mighty_Thor
03-05-2010, 10:09 AM
Since marvel tends to put out 1 movie a year during summer blockbuster season that doesn't necessarily take a guy with a TV show out of the running. They just have to schedule things to shoot during the hiatus.
R_Hythlodeus
03-05-2010, 10:13 AM
Since marvel tends to put out 1 movie a year during summer blockbuster season that doesn't necessarily take a guy with a TV show out of the running. They just have to schedule things to shoot during the hiatus.
well it's mor like one solo movie and one team movie and probably some cameos in 14 months
Rock Sexton
03-05-2010, 10:41 AM
Jeez, people! I was NOT advocating a wrestler (much less a crappy mic guy like Orton) to play Cap! I was saying that whoever is cast as Cap should be built like Orton...not BE Orton!
Give me some credit, please.
Some are so rabid right now that they're just reading what they want to read. :hehe:
Majik1387
03-05-2010, 11:04 AM
Majik, I was going by Jamie and not the blogger girl.
Who? :huh:
If you're referring to Ausiello, the source of the pilot talk?
And who?:huh:
That-Guy
03-05-2010, 11:24 AM
Crawford would be better than Vogel. Vogel is not even 6' and he is not even close to the physique that Cap is supposed to have.
How is Crawford's physique close to Cap's? He's a twig.
Although, it looks like you and I see eye-to-eye on Superman casting.
Double Down
03-05-2010, 11:25 AM
Here's an ign article about fanboy casting outrage because of all the outrage over caps casting that's a good read http://movies.ign.com/articles/107/1072588p1.html
You have to love how unaware some people are. This is an actual comment from the article:
I think that fans are too picky about casting, people can change hair colour, they can build muscle, and a korean can play a japanese character. Most of these people did do a fantastic job.
Now, for Captain America, I don't think that John Krasinski would be a good Captain America at all!!! Jensen Ackles is clearly perfect for the role. He has got the look for it, and is a fantastic actor, he can play a variety of roles and pull them off with ease.
Here's an ign article about fanboy casting outrage because of all the outrage over caps casting that's a good read http://movies.ign.com/articles/107/1072588p1.html
Good article.
Man, fanboys can suck it, they are incredibly annoying.
Who? :huh:
And who?:huh:
You said "the blogger girl", so I presumed you were talking about Porter being cast in the pilot which would put him out of the running.
The info on the pilot was originally from EW's Ausiello (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/03/03/scott-porter-cw-nomads/) originally posted earlier in the thread.
So, it's very credible and not some blogger girl, in other words.
Just clarifying for Porter fans so they don't get their hopes up accordingly.
Majik1387
03-05-2010, 12:01 PM
You said "the blogger girl", so I presumed you were talking about Porter being cast in the pilot which would put him out of the running.
The info on the pilot was originally from EW's Ausiello (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/03/03/scott-porter-cw-nomads/) originally posted earlier in the thread.
So, it's very credible and not some blogger girl, in other words.
Just clarifying for Porter fans so they don't get their hopes up accordingly.
I see.
Well, I'm not trying to stretch my hope, but being cast in a pilot and possibly new series doesn't mean he wouldn't be able to film a movie.
Son of Coul
03-05-2010, 12:15 PM
You have to love how unaware some people are. This is an actual comment from the article:
Haha, almost reads like a joke.
Aesop Rocks
03-05-2010, 12:19 PM
To be perfectly honest, I really do think that John Krasinski has the role of Cap. Mike Vogel was cool in Cloverfield, but frankly he just didn't have "it", Michael Stahl-David did though and is a person I would have fought for to be Cap, if he auditioned. I could see Chance Crawford snapping under the pressure of being that important of a role, as his first acting gig. Here's to hoping they announce it soon.
flickchick85
03-05-2010, 12:23 PM
Vogel, Crawford and Krasinski left? I'll be so pissed if Crawford gets it.
Ugh, ditto. Crawford is a very lady-like kid with a very slight build and ZERO acting talent. Based on the several episodes of Gossip Girl I've seen, he was the worst actor in a cast mostly filled with bad actors. How the hell did he even make it this far? It's like Marvel mandated that JJ include in his set of "finalists" one or two choices that would appeal to the tween girl set, and JJ didn't like the idea, so he chose the worst two possible candidates from the demo to include. Just to make his actual candidates look better. The Hornberger Method strikes again! :hehe:
I see.
Well, I'm not trying to stretch my hope, but being cast in a pilot and possibly new series doesn't mean he wouldn't be able to film a movie.
Normally no, but after Marvel was burned by the almost exact same thing happening with Thor (except this time with a main character), they're not going to settle for possibly being second fiddle. Not for a summer blockbuster that other summer films are depending upon.
Yes, he could, but I doubt Marvel would be willing to take the risk. If he gets injured filming the tv show, that'd ruin their tight schedule for the CA film and in turn, Avengers, etc.
Anyways, sorry.
tallsy_1
03-05-2010, 01:20 PM
If Porter thought he was still in the running for something this big, he wouldn't have taken the part in the pilot. I'm slightly disappointed because he was a fine candidate.
I do know that this isn't going as smoothly as hoped because some agents are still selling their clients to the studio. They wouldn't be wasting their time, if the studio/director thought it had a sure thing.
dsfjr1190
03-05-2010, 01:32 PM
How did we go from awesome leads in IM and TIH, to these chumps as finalists for the role of Captain America?
Its highly disappointing...
flickchick85
03-05-2010, 01:35 PM
If Porter thought he was still in the running for something this big, he wouldn't have taken the part in the pilot. I'm slightly disappointed because he was a fine candidate.
I do know that this isn't going as smoothly as hoped because some agents are still selling their clients to the studio. They wouldn't be wasting their time, if the studio/director thought it had a sure thing.
This supports my theory that it will be none of the above, and end up being a last minute, out-of-the-blue choice like Hemsworth.
Iceman
03-05-2010, 01:37 PM
Any news in the last few days or is it still the same shortlist with no decision date set yet?
Iceman
03-05-2010, 01:38 PM
How did we go from awesome leads in IM and TIH, to these chumps as finalists for the role of Captain America?
Its highly disappointing...They always said they wanted an unknown. Still I thought the list of unknowns would be a lot better..in all aspects.
flickchick85
03-05-2010, 01:39 PM
Any news in the last few days or is it still the same shortlist with no decision date set yet?
The short list has gotten shorter. Cassidy is out, and Porter's supposedly out as well, though that hasn't been confirmed.
Rock Sexton
03-05-2010, 01:43 PM
They always said they wanted an unknown. Still I thought the list of unknowns would be a lot better..in all aspects.
Still scratching my head at the concept of Captain freaking America being portrayed by an absolute nobody.
http://yellowcat413.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/bush-dumb-look-scratching-head.jpg
Iceman
03-05-2010, 01:46 PM
The short list has gotten shorter. Cassidy is out, and Porter's supposedly out as well, though that hasn't been confirmed.Thanks. :up:
Iceman
03-05-2010, 01:49 PM
Still scratching my head at the concept of Captain freaking America being portrayed by an absolute nobody.
http://yellowcat413.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/bush-dumb-look-scratching-head.jpgI can understand the idea of going with someone who doesn't have a well known face for an iconic character but not if they're going to set their standards so low. Now I would rather they paid Matt Damon $50m cash upfront even if it leaves less for other stuff, & I'll contribute $200 myself if he agrees lol.
Spider-Fan
03-05-2010, 01:52 PM
What is confusing about the unknown idea? They want the audience to see Captain America, not the actor portraying him, which is what happens a lot with big name actors. This is why they cast Reeve as Superman.
If they want an unknown... they should stay away from JK because he is a known "face" and people associate him with Jim on the Office.
Spider-Fan
03-05-2010, 02:03 PM
He is still an unknown, cause he has no name recognition. Nobody knows his name. Yes, he is a major character on a popular show, but that doesn't make him well known. Jim is not an iconic TV character like Sylar was when Heroes first aired.
Carlo Comicus
03-05-2010, 02:03 PM
Porter confirm he is out.
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/03/05/captain-america-casting-update-smallville-and-friday-night-lights-actors-off-the-list
As reported by io9 (http://io9.com/5486682/another-captain-america-tester-bites-the-dust-thats-2-down), Porter posted, "Ain't Cap. Thank you all for the prayers though, I appreciate them all so very much."
Bruce Malone
03-05-2010, 02:03 PM
The reason i'm thinking they will go with Krasinski is because while he's not a megastar he is not an unknown actor he does have quite the following and the office is quite successful.
The previous two marvel movies did not have unknowns as the leads and with the casting of ryan reynolds as GL i think studios are taking the cue of casting known actors.
Young Superman
03-05-2010, 02:03 PM
If they want an unknown... they should stay away from JK because he is a known "face" and people associate him with Jim on the Office.
Agreed Rage.
Porter confirm he is out.
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/03/05/captain-america-casting-update-smallville-and-friday-night-lights-actors-off-the-list
As reported by io9 (http://io9.com/5486682/another-captain-america-tester-bites-the-dust-thats-2-down), Porter posted, "Ain't Cap. Thank you all for the prayers though, I appreciate them all so very much."
Dang. That's gotta be disappointing.
Deaths Head II
03-05-2010, 02:07 PM
Porter confirm he is out.
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/03/05/captain-america-casting-update-smallville-and-friday-night-lights-actors-off-the-list
As reported by io9 (http://io9.com/5486682/another-captain-america-tester-bites-the-dust-thats-2-down), Porter posted, "Ain't Cap. Thank you all for the prayers though, I appreciate them all so very much."
So it's officially down to Crawford, Krasinsky, and Vogel (barring a surprise new choice).
Please not Crawford...please not Crawford...please not Crawford...
Young Superman
03-05-2010, 02:11 PM
This is good and bad at the same time. He's not Cap but maybe he can be Barry Allen / The Flash.
Carlo Comicus
03-05-2010, 02:12 PM
So it's officially down to Crawford, Krasinsky, and Vogel (barring a surprise new choice).
Please not Crawford...please not Crawford...please not Crawford...
I hope it's Vogel.
Crawford: eeagghh.
flickchick85
03-05-2010, 02:13 PM
Dang. That's gotta be disappointing.
Seriously. I can't imagine being this close to getting something so big that you want so much, and just barely missing out. I didn't think he was right for Cap, but he's a talented actor and seems like a real stand-up guy with a true love for comics, so I hope he gets one of these superhero roles someday. *cough*Flash*cough*
Also, did I miss something about Flueger being out of the race as well?
And I'll join in on the "please not Crawford" mantra now...
Son of Coul
03-05-2010, 02:16 PM
I can understand the idea of going with someone who doesn't have a well known face for an iconic character but not if they're going to set their standards so low. Now I would rather they paid Matt Damon $50m cash upfront even if it leaves less for other stuff, & I'll contribute $200 myself if he agrees lol.
...
Yeah, Porter would make a good Flash. I think JK is going to get it, Vogel has a decent look but less screen presence. Crawford is just a miserable option.
FlawlessVictory
03-05-2010, 02:25 PM
Porter confirm he is out.
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/03/05/captain-america-casting-update-smallville-and-friday-night-lights-actors-off-the-list
As reported by io9 (http://io9.com/5486682/another-captain-america-tester-bites-the-dust-thats-2-down), Porter posted, "Ain't Cap. Thank you all for the prayers though, I appreciate them all so very much."
Would rather see Porter as Flash anyway.
Yeah, Porter would make a good Flash. I think JK is going to get it, Vogel has a decent look but less screen presence. Crawford is just a miserable option.
Agreed. It looks like JK is our Cap. Disappointing for me. I hope the first pics of him and trailer impress me and prove me wrong otherwise this movie will be a rental for me.
SpiderByte
03-05-2010, 02:30 PM
I'd be happiest with Krasinksi, but I'd be very willing to see Vogel.
Crawford...not so much.
What, no supporters for Crawford? Well, I guess I have to step up to the plate.
CRAWFORD FOR CAP!!
scifiwolf
03-05-2010, 02:41 PM
I'm hoping that Marvel isn't pushing for Crawford as a means to draw in a younger audience or something like that. I'd think that the huge mainstream success of Iron Man across all demographics proved that a quality movie doesn't need a gimmick in the casting of the lead.
At this point, I'm guessing this is really down to JKras or Vogel, and one of them has gotten the part. It sounds like actors and agents are being contacted today. If this is true, we'll get unofficial reports in Twitter/blog posts, with something from Marvel on Monday. If it's not true, I think it may be another week.
That-Guy
03-05-2010, 02:42 PM
I'm still holding out for Hedlund, out of the names that were initially mentioned. I know that the original article said that they couldn't work out a screen test deal, but they hinted that he might not be completely out. Makes me wonder if someone (maybe JJ) is interested in him but the Marvel execs are being tightasses.
BETArayBill
03-05-2010, 02:50 PM
Crossing fingers for another hemsworth casting cureveball.
I am guessing that the announcement is imminent. If people on the short list are hearing that they didn't get it, then I am thinking that the decision has been made or very close to it. There is probably not much more discussion to do when deciding between 3 candidates than 5 candidates.
That-Guy
03-05-2010, 02:53 PM
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking could happen. I don't have a problem with JK, but he just doesn't seem to fit the "unknown" mold they said they were looking for. I like Vogel, but I'm not sure that he's Cap material, either. And Crawford... I'm sorry, but seriously... while I don't want to see a steroid-pumping John Cena type as Cap, the actor should at least look like a man.
SpiderByte
03-05-2010, 02:53 PM
double post*
SpiderByte
03-05-2010, 02:56 PM
Still, the final casting will be announced soon. They've already completed the screen testing by now, so we should get a final call soon.
I'm okay with Krasinksi or Vogel.
However, if Vogel gets cut....then there will be a huuge upsurge of Krasinski supporters, even if it is a "better-him-than-crawford" situation.
Oh, and new rule to the ceasfire: 24 hours UNLESS the final casting is announced in the next 6 hours.
That-Guy
03-05-2010, 02:58 PM
True dat. Either Kras or Vogel are a much better than Crawford.
But can you image the fan reaction if Crawford IS the guy?
I don't even want to think about that, ugh.
flickchick85
03-05-2010, 03:00 PM
I'd be perfectly fine with Vogel or Krasinski at this point, and I'm still not convinced anyone is actually even considering Crawford, lol.
But yes, it would seem an announcement is imminent. A decision's been made, it'll leak first, and we'll get some official confirmation by Monday. *fingers crossed*
Trying to imagine Crawford leading RDJ, Norton, and Hemsworth into battle. Yuck.
I can't imagine it being Crawford, marvel studios ain't stupid, they just can't put this guy leading Robert Downey Jr, it would be ridiculous.
piccolo
03-05-2010, 03:02 PM
Warming to Vogel as Cap. Would prefer a left-field choice but Vogels got my backing if its between those three.
Crawford or Krasinski will be a travesty.
C'mon marvel, give the guy a chance to make a name in hollywood!
OptimusPrime114
03-05-2010, 03:02 PM
Would rather see Porter as Flash anyway.
Agreed. It looks like JK is our Cap. Disappointing for me. I hope the first pics of him and trailer impress me and prove me wrong otherwise this movie will be a rental for me.
I guess we can all agree that Crawford should not be Cap.
Iceman or Human Torch, maybe. But not Cap.
I could get behind Crawford as Nightwing or Link in a Zelda movie, but Cap? No way.
Doctor Jones
03-05-2010, 03:05 PM
Then people would rather want Krasinski.
So JJ said they finished casting casting on March 1st. We should be getting something real soon.
It'd be funny if Krasinski got it they made an in joke on it in The Office. Maybe if he's going to buff up there can be an episode where the office notices his changed physique. Michael freaks out and is jealous and follows Jim around town to see how he became bulkier.
Project862006
03-05-2010, 03:07 PM
hoping for hedlund still
Then people would rather want Krasinski.
So JJ said they finished casting casting on March 1st. We should be getting something real soon.
It'd be funny if Krasinski got it they made an in joke on it in The Office. Maybe if he's going to buff up there can be an episode where the office notices his changed physique. Michael freaks out and is jealous and follows Jim around town to see how he became bulkier.
I could actually see the Office doing some funny bits with Jim's change in appearance. I think it would be great.
scifiwolf
03-05-2010, 03:11 PM
You know, I've been wondering what the atmosphere has been like on the set of The Office in the last week. If there haven't been some pranks on JK yet, I imagine there will be if he actually were to get the role.
flickchick85
03-05-2010, 03:11 PM
I could actually see the Office doing some funny bits with Jim's change in appearance. I think it would be great.
It would be convenient timing for them since he just became a dad. That's pretty substantial motivation for change right there.
Nirvana
03-05-2010, 03:11 PM
One thing for sure: I'm so happy that Ackles didn't get it. :up:
SpiderByte
03-05-2010, 03:12 PM
Then people would rather want Krasinski.
So JJ said they finished casting casting on March 1st. We should be getting something real soon.
It'd be funny if Krasinski got it they made an in joke on it in The Office. Maybe if he's going to buff up there can be an episode where the office notices his changed physique. Michael freaks out and is jealous and follows Jim around town to see how he became bulkier.
Imagine Dwight's reaction :hehe:
flickchick85
03-05-2010, 03:13 PM
One thing for sure: I'm so happy that Ackles didn't get it. :up:
Shhhh....there could still be a left-field curveball. But I agree.
SpiderByte
03-05-2010, 03:15 PM
Ackles is too busy with Supernatural anyways. And he's awesome at it, too.
Project862006
03-05-2010, 03:16 PM
whats so wrong with jensen from i have seen he is a fine actor
Triad
03-05-2010, 03:18 PM
I'm jumpin on the Vogel bandwagon. To me he fits Cap better than Krasinski. JK is a good actor and all & I'm sure we could do far worse (Channing Tatum or John Cena...even though they look the part more!) but he has an awkwardness about him that I really do not think is right for the character. (Let's hope that isn't what JJ is going for!) Not totally on board for MV's voice though, but I can live with it. I'm still hoping (praying?) that they will throw us a curve ball & spring someone else on us at the last minute.
flickchick85
03-05-2010, 03:19 PM
whats so wrong with jensen from i have seen he is a fine actor
I don't want this to turn into a bashing thread again (unless we're united in bashing Crawford!), so for now I'll just say I respectfully disagree. Well no, I'll agree that his acting talents are "fine," but I don't think I could call them "good." :yay:
Triad
03-05-2010, 03:21 PM
Too bad Mark Valley is so damn old!
FlawlessVictory
03-05-2010, 03:21 PM
I'm still hoping (praying?) that they will throw us a curve ball & spring someone else on us at the last minute.
I'm hoping as well. No one on that list does it for me.
SpiderByte
03-05-2010, 03:23 PM
Thing about curveballs, is that they could go either way. It could be the greatest surprise ever, or we could get someone absolutely horrible.
Majik1387
03-05-2010, 03:24 PM
I'm jumpin on the Vogel bandwagon. To me he fits Cap better than Krasinski. JK is a good actor and all & I'm sure we could do far worse (Channing Tatum or John Cena...even though they look the part more!) but he has an awkwardness about him that I really do not think is right for the character. (Let's hope that isn't what JJ is going for!) Not totally on board for MV's voice though, but I can live with it. I'm still hoping (praying?) that they will throw us a curve ball & spring someone else on us at the last minute.
Dare I ask what's awkward about Vogel?
SpiderByte
03-05-2010, 03:24 PM
http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Casting-For-The-First-Avenger-Captain-America-To-Be-Announced-Soon-1524896.html
We'll find out soon enough!!!
Triad
03-05-2010, 03:26 PM
Dare I ask what's awkward about Vogel?
Not Vogel, Krasinski.
FlawlessVictory
03-05-2010, 03:28 PM
http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Casting-For-The-First-Avenger-Captain-America-To-Be-Announced-Soon-1524896.html
We'll find out soon enough!!!
Casting For The 'First Avenger: Captain America' To Be Announced SoonOk, but what's the defintion of soon?
scifiwolf
03-05-2010, 03:29 PM
Spider-Byte, that news is from a month ago and incredibly inaccurate.
FlawlessVictory
03-05-2010, 03:30 PM
^LOL, just saw the date on that.
Triad
03-05-2010, 03:31 PM
Ok, but what's the defintion of soon?
Yeah and how old was that disproved info?! John Barrowman, Aaron Eckhart & Will Smith?! Jeesh!
SpiderByte
03-05-2010, 03:31 PM
Oops. I thought it said March 4th, not Feb.
Still, it'll probably be announced soon, with the fact that already half the contenders have been kicked.
flickchick85
03-05-2010, 03:31 PM
ETA: Never mind, you all beat me to it.
Well to add something new, whether or not he'd be a good Cap, one thing's for sure about Krasinski - if he were cast, the Avengers set would be a fun place to be. He and RDJ are both cut-ups, and I imagine they'd hit it off pretty well.
Majik1387
03-05-2010, 03:33 PM
Not Vogel, Krasinski.
Sorry, misread it.:woot:
Acronyms are sneaky.:oldrazz:
Project862006
03-05-2010, 03:35 PM
sometime in 2010
Triad
03-05-2010, 03:36 PM
ETA: Never mind, you all beat me to it.
Well to add something new, whether or not he'd be a good Cap, one thing's for sure about Krasinski - if he were cast, the Avengers set would be a fun place to be. He and RDJ are both cut-ups, and I imagine they'd hit it off pretty well.
Agreed.
moguy
03-05-2010, 03:46 PM
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but Porter is out.
http://io9.com/5486682/another-captain-america-tester-bites-the-dust-thats-2-down
Aesop Rocks
03-05-2010, 03:47 PM
Still scratching my head at the concept of Captain freaking America being portrayed by an absolute nobody.
http://yellowcat413.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/bush-dumb-look-scratching-head.jpg
Steve Rogers was an absolute nobody before he became Cap. :cwink:
Majik1387
03-05-2010, 03:48 PM
Not sure if this has been posted yer, but Porter is out.
http://io9.com/5486682/another-captain-america-tester-bites-the-dust-thats-2-down
:csad::csad::csad::csad::csad:
Timeto edit my manip with Vogel...
Son of Coul
03-05-2010, 03:48 PM
ETA: Never mind, you all beat me to it.
Well to add something new, whether or not he'd be a good Cap, one thing's for sure about Krasinski - if he were cast, the Avengers set would be a fun place to be. He and RDJ are both cut-ups, and I imagine they'd hit it off pretty well.
Ah I know, I'd kill to be an intern or something there.
Aesop Rocks
03-05-2010, 03:50 PM
Speaking of Vogel, I would have rather had Michael Stahl-David in the running...
piccolo
03-05-2010, 03:53 PM
Did Jensen Ackles ever screen test or was he just fanboy speculation?
TheFuture
03-05-2010, 03:53 PM
Captain America being portrayed by an unknown doesn't matter, sure if an A lister was cast such as DiCaprio or Damon then yeah that would be awesome, but the truth is that Marvel were never going to get an A lister in the true sense. That being said I'm disappointed they are not going with the reliable solid actors like they did with Norton and RDJ.
Majik1387
03-05-2010, 03:58 PM
Captain America being portrayed by an unknown doesn't matter, sure if an A lister was cast such as DiCaprio or Damon then yeah that would be awesome, but the truth is that Marvel were never going to get an A lister in the true sense. That being said I'm disappointed they are not going with the reliable solid actors like they did with Norton and RDJ.
Regarding Norton and RDJ, was there ever a list of finalists for Iron Man and Hulk? And were Norton and RDJ on them?
Aesop Rocks
03-05-2010, 03:58 PM
I really like the unknown idea, it's true to the comics so much that Steve pre-Cap was an unknown and now here is this guy, no one has ever heard of getting a life-changing role.
TheFuture
03-05-2010, 04:00 PM
Regarding Norton and RDJ, was there ever a list of finalists for Iron Man and Hulk? And were Norton and RDJ on them?
I'm not sure, I'm pretty confident that I read somewhere that RDJ wasn't Marvel's first choice though.
eth322
03-05-2010, 04:00 PM
I believe that Marvel is selecting the best person to accurately portray Captain America: a person that was once a 90lb nobody who becomes the leader of the Avengers.
In order to do this, you can't have an "A" list actor. You have to have somebody that can put some personal experience into the character by maturing into the character.
SpiderByte
03-05-2010, 04:10 PM
True point, eth, true point.
Final casting should be released really soon.
I'm moving my date from the 18th to 5-10th.
Aesop Rocks
03-05-2010, 04:11 PM
Any day now, Byte. But yeah, March 1st-15th is my "area".
BETArayBill
03-05-2010, 04:12 PM
If chace Crawford gets cast I my eyes will vomit.
Son of Coul
03-05-2010, 04:13 PM
This thread is now about why Chace Crawford is the worst person alive.
Nirvana
03-05-2010, 04:13 PM
Maybe in the next few hours?
Rock Sexton
03-05-2010, 04:13 PM
What is confusing about the unknown idea? They want the audience to see Captain America, not the actor portraying him, which is what happens a lot with big name actors. This is why they cast Reeve as Superman.
Eh? How could I not "see" Captain America if he was portrayed by a more seasoned actor like say John Krause or somebody?
Once again, difference of opinion. I find Captain America to be one of the most standout, if not THE stand out member of the team. Him being portrayed by an unknown naturally leaves him to be usurped by vets like RDJ, Jackson, etc.
I wan't Mark Valley. I don't care if he's 45.
Aesop Rocks
03-05-2010, 04:15 PM
Eh? How could I not "see" Captain America if he was portrayed by a more seasoned actor like say John Krause or somebody?
Once again, difference of opinion. I find Captain America to be one of the most standout, if not THE stand out member of the team. Him being portrayed by an unknown naturally leaves him to be usurped by vets like RDJ, Jackson, etc.
I really like the unknown idea, it's true to the comics so much that Steve pre-Cap was an unknown and now here is this guy, no one has ever heard of getting a life-changing role.
Steve Rogers was an absolute nobody before he became Cap. :cwink:
:yay:
flickchick85
03-05-2010, 04:16 PM
Ah I know, I'd kill to be an intern or something there.
Oh man, that would be amazing. If only there were a "Make-A-Wish" foundation for healthy people. :cwink:
Son of Coul
03-05-2010, 04:16 PM
http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx235/Lye-West/ADMIN/Canons/Crawford.jpg
look at his stupid face.
Son of Coul
03-05-2010, 04:17 PM
Oh man, that would be amazing. If only there were a "Make-A-Wish" foundation for healthy people. :cwink:
brb faking butt cancer
BETArayBill
03-05-2010, 04:18 PM
This thread is now about why Chace Crawford is the worst person alive.
At least we can all agree on that.
TheFuture
03-05-2010, 04:18 PM
I have two weeks off from Uni now, if in two weeks time when I'm walking back into Uni still not knowing who is playing Steve Rogers I'm hunting JJ down. :cwink:
Rock Sexton
03-05-2010, 04:18 PM
:yay:
A convincing actor can play that role without having to be an unknown. That's why they are called "actors".
Aesop Rocks
03-05-2010, 04:18 PM
Happy, you gotta nip it in the bud
Aesop Rocks
03-05-2010, 04:19 PM
A convincing actor can play that role without having to be an unknown. That's why they are called "actors".
I take it you're not used to new approaches to things? It's cool, "change" is a scary concept. :o :oldrazz:
Rock Sexton
03-05-2010, 04:19 PM
I take it you're not used to new approaches to things? It's cool, "change" is a scary concept. :o :oldrazz:
So is sarcasm when used excessively. :wow:
flickchick85
03-05-2010, 04:19 PM
brb faking butt cancer
:hehe:
Also, what is with Chace Crawford's hair? Something tells me it's naturally curly-frizzy as hell, as it's been perm-ed beyond recognition.
Majik1387
03-05-2010, 04:20 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/john_krasinski.jpg
look at his stupid face.
Fixed
Aesop Rocks
03-05-2010, 04:20 PM
So is sarcasm when used excessively. :wow:
Be nice, I just woke up. :csad: :oldrazz:
Aesop Rocks
03-05-2010, 04:21 PM
Fixed
Hey, that stupid face is still in the running though. :cwink: :oldrazz:
Rock Sexton
03-05-2010, 04:21 PM
be nice, i just woke up. :csad: :oldrazz:
lol.
Son of Coul
03-05-2010, 04:21 PM
Man the threat of bans has actually made these threads much scarier. Instead of a bloodbath it's just these sarcastic little passive-aggressive remarks building up the tension higher and higher...
Majik1387
03-05-2010, 04:21 PM
Hey, that stupid face is still in the running though. :cwink: :oldrazz:
So is Crawford's.:cwink:
Aesop Rocks
03-05-2010, 04:22 PM
DON'T YOU TURN MY JOKE AGAINST ME!! :cmad: :oldrazz:
Rock Sexton
03-05-2010, 04:23 PM
Fixed
Seriously, I just do not like his look AT all.
Aesop Rocks
03-05-2010, 04:24 PM
Rock, it's almost like your hatred for Krasinski is fueled with a personal deep hate for the guy. :funny:
Rock Sexton
03-05-2010, 04:24 PM
Man the threat of bans has actually made these threads much scarier. Instead of a bloodbath it's just these sarcastic little passive-aggressive remarks building up the tension higher and higher...
Tension?
Bro, we're talking about comics. Enough with the tension. We all have our points of contention, but seriously let's be done with the forum spats.
Majik1387
03-05-2010, 04:25 PM
DON'T YOU TURN MY JOKE AGAINST ME!! :cmad: :oldrazz:
:awesome:
Seriously, I just do not like his look AT all.
I just don't see anything to like about him for Cap
Rock Sexton
03-05-2010, 04:26 PM
Rock, it's almost like your hatred for Krasinski is fueled with a personal deep hate for the guy. :funny:
Correction: I hate him for the part. It's really that simple. It's kind of a waste of time and energy personally hating somebody that you don't know.
Aesop Rocks
03-05-2010, 04:28 PM
Krasinski is one of the guys good for Cap because of his presence. You're just drawn to a person like that, which is why Jim Halpert feels so realistic. Awe heck, I'll admit that Krasinski doesn't look like Steve, but I think they're going past that. They're capturing the essence of the character, which John completely has.
cerealkiller182
03-05-2010, 04:30 PM
Krasinski is one of the guys good for Cap because of his presence. You're just drawn to a person like that, which is why Jim Halpert feels so realistic. Awe heck, I'll admit that Krasinski doesn't look like Steve, but I think they're going past that. They're capturing the essence of the character, which John completely has.
I agree....sorta. Just out of the list I think he is the best. Not overall.
Deaths Head II
03-05-2010, 04:32 PM
JK is the only guy on the list I can see being able to stand up against RDJ's charisma and likability. I have never met anyone in real life that watches the Office that doesn't love Jim (there have been people on the internet that hate him but those same people often find Dwight to be a relatable character...). I think Cap having that likability would be an incredibly great thing.
Aesop Rocks
03-05-2010, 04:33 PM
I agree....sorta. Just out of the list I think he is the best. Not overall.
Oh completely, I'm stating this for the list. I'd still much rather see Eckhart or Damon take the role.
Project862006
03-05-2010, 04:58 PM
personally Think Hedlund if he tests is the best out of the list
paulogonza
03-05-2010, 06:08 PM
weel if they want krasisnki only because he can act very well, than put Al Pacino like captain america.
Rick Roll'd
03-05-2010, 06:21 PM
I wan't Mark Valley. I don't care if he's 45.
I second that he is a realitive unknown great actor that can commit to the role has the right look only problem is age but he looks young enough so I don't think that's too big a problem now a days
Young Superman
03-05-2010, 06:46 PM
personally Think Hedlund if he tests is the best out of the list
agreed
Iceman
03-05-2010, 06:51 PM
Trying to imagine Crawford leading RDJ, Norton, and Hemsworth into battle. Yuck.Man :csad:
Whoever is cast from this list is going to have a tough job being the leader. Not sure that any are up to it.
I can't imagine it being Crawford, marvel studios ain't stupid, they just can't put this guy leading Robert Downey Jr, it would be ridiculous.But they did put him on the shortlist.
Imagine Dwight's reaction :hehe:Now that would be funny!! :woot:
Fixedlol
SpiderByte
03-05-2010, 06:58 PM
http://www.reelcomix.com/741-Dolph-Lundgren-is-Captain-America.html
....
This better be complete and utter bull*****, or I will throw things at people I don't know.
Double Down
03-05-2010, 07:02 PM
^ That's from July.
Double Down
03-05-2010, 07:03 PM
This thread is now about why Chace Crawford is the worst person alive.
There is a theory making the rounds that Crawford is on the list solely to take the heat off Krasinski amongst fanboys. It wouldn't be a shock if Vogel is the next name to be removed from the list (so to speak). That would leave only Krasinski and Crawford and how many would really support Crawford amongst those two?
Again, it's only a theory some have, but it does make sense.
Son of Coul
03-05-2010, 07:03 PM
That's from July 19... and completely absurd...
OptimusPrime114
03-05-2010, 07:06 PM
That's from July 19... and completely absurd...
Totally.
Aesop Rocks
03-05-2010, 07:06 PM
You can tell when posters go over the edge, they start googling "captain america casting" and read/post everything. :p
Son of Coul
03-05-2010, 07:15 PM
There is a theory making the rounds that Crawford is on the list solely to take the heat off Krasinski amongst fanboys. It wouldn't be a shock if Vogel is the next name to be removed from the list (so to speak). That would leave only Krasinski and Crawford and how many would really support Crawford amongst those two?
Again, it's only a theory some have, but it does make sense.
Well I dunno much about this Vogel fella but for all we know that's why a bizarre choice like Krasinski's there. But then again, there's been a surprising upsurge of support for him on the web, me included, so who knows.
I'd definitely say it isn't Crawford, but I wouldn't push Vogel out of the picture either. And if it is Crawford, then damn, he must've done some pretty incredible audition work. Even though I don't see him as Cap at all he would've beaten out a lot of people who most people could see, so I just like to think of it that way.
Danalys
03-05-2010, 07:22 PM
JK is the only guy on the list I can see being able to stand up against RDJ's charisma and likability. I have never met anyone in real life that watches the Office that doesn't love Jim (there have been people on the internet that hate him but those same people often find Dwight to be a relatable character...). I think Cap having that likability would be an incredibly great thing.
Cap isn't about relatability he's about being something to aspire to. the only people who can relate at all are people somewhat equally heroic.
AdWolF16
03-05-2010, 07:30 PM
i dismissed the idea of Krasinski as Cap when his name was first brought up, but really warmed up to him as soon as i really started to think about it. but i'm still very concerned about audiences being able to think of him as anything but Jim from the Office. think about it: the actors who portray the big superheroes are either well-known as actors to the general audience (e.g., Halle Berry, Wesley Snipes, Michael Keaton, Jessica Alba, etc.) or either unknown or only peripherally known to the general audience (e.g., Hugh Jackman, Tobey Maguire, Eric Bana, Ray Stevenson, Brandon Routh, etc.). but perhaps aside from Patrick Stewart (who was too perfect as Prof X to count), Krasinski is the only one i can think of who is only known, if at all, as one specific character. nobody really thought "Charlie Chaplin as Iron Man?" or "Chuckie Sullivan as Daredevil?", and even the people who said "Mr. Mom as Batman?" didn't really only know Keaton from that role.
so to me, this is different than the old "the audience won't see Superman, they'll see Nicolas Cage" situation, because audiences don't necessarily think of any particular Nicolas Cage character when they see him. but will audiences be able to see Captain America when not only John Krasinki, but silly prankster Jim Halpert, is under the mask?
Man :csad:
But they did put him on the shortlist.
lol
Who knows how this things work? who's to say that a friend of a friend didn't push for him to be on this short list? even if he don't have the gig ultimatly, it's free publicity..
hoping that that guy has not the final word :woot:
cerealkiller182
03-05-2010, 07:54 PM
personally Think Hedlund if he tests is the best out of the list
agreed, but I thought I read he is already out
Project862006
03-05-2010, 08:00 PM
i hope cap is done right because he easily can turn into Cyclops from X Men
SpiderByte
03-05-2010, 08:05 PM
As far as the final 3 go, my order is this:
Krasinski
Vogel
Profit!
Crawford
Iceman
03-05-2010, 08:20 PM
i dismissed the idea of Krasinski as Cap when his name was first brought up, but really warmed up to him as soon as i really started to think about it. but i'm still very concerned about audiences being able to think of him as anything but Jim from the Office. think about it: the actors who portray the big superheroes are either well-known as actors to the general audience (e.g., Halle Berry, Wesley Snipes, Michael Keaton, Jessica Alba, etc.) or either unknown or only peripherally known to the general audience (e.g., Hugh Jackman, Tobey Maguire, Eric Bana, Ray Stevenson, Brandon Routh, etc.). but perhaps aside from Patrick Stewart (who was too perfect as Prof X to count), Krasinski is the only one i can think of who is only known, if at all, as one specific character. nobody really thought "Charlie Chaplin as Iron Man?" or "Chuckie Sullivan as Daredevil?", and even the people who said "Mr. Mom as Batman?" didn't really only know Keaton from that role.
so to me, this is different than the old "the audience won't see Superman, they'll see Nicolas Cage" situation, because audiences don't necessarily think of any particular Nicolas Cage character when they see him. but will audiences be able to see Captain America when not only John Krasinki, but silly prankster Jim Halpert, is under the mask?The guy is a bit typecast as he has a great role & character in The Office which completely dominates the rest of his body of work. So I agree that it doesn't really fit with what I imagined (& agreed with to an extent) the point of being an unknown was.
http://www.reelcomix.com/741-Dolph-Lundgren-is-Captain-America.html
....
This better be complete and utter bull*****, or I will throw things at people I don't know.Is that link even older than your last one? :woot::woot:
There is a theory making the rounds that Crawford is on the list solely to take the heat off Krasinski amongst fanboys. It wouldn't be a shock if Vogel is the next name to be removed from the list (so to speak). That would leave only Krasinski and Crawford and how many would really support Crawford amongst those two?
Again, it's only a theory some have, but it does make sense.Wouldn't be the weirdest thing ever. For example if the director is making what the studio view to be a risky choice it would make sense to put a douche on the shortlist & have him as the last remaining contender so in the end people would back their guy. In actual fact they just chose a whole bunch of douches so it became a bit of a non issue, but still save superdouche for last! I can't believe they would seriously consider Crawford for Captain America for 9 films. This role is the cornerstone of Marvel Studio's business plan & they're going to take such a huge risk?
i hope cap is done right because he easily can turn into Cyclops from X MenIn that case it wouldn't matter who was cast as we wouldn't see him onscreen at all...not even for his death. :woot:
Deaths Head II
03-05-2010, 08:22 PM
Cap isn't about relatability he's about being something to aspire to. the only people who can relate at all are people somewhat equally heroic.
I said likable, not relatable. Cap should be likable. I don't know how you can even argue the fact Captain America should be super likable and charismatic, even if you don't think JK has those qualities. If Cap is a dullard then he's not inspiring anyone.
Bruce Malone
03-05-2010, 10:28 PM
If it comes down to vogel and Krasinski from a physical standpoint wouldn't you want a 6'3" guy playing cap rather than 5'10" guy?
That's why im suprised guys here are more caught up on facial features than actual physicality.
Majik1387
03-05-2010, 10:36 PM
If it comes down to vogel and Krasinski from a physical standpoint wouldn't you want a 6'3" guy playing cap rather than 5'10" guy?
That's why im suprised guys here are more caught up on facial features than actual physicality.
Height =/= Physicality. It only means height.
Vogel has the overall look. So what if he's a couple of inches shorter. Lifts in the shoes and camera angles fix it just fine; It's working for RDJ.
The_Mighty_Thor
03-05-2010, 10:36 PM
Height doesn't matter that much really. Does Tom Cruise look like the midget he is in any of his movies? 5'10" is almost 6 feet and Hemsworth is only 6'3". Cap should be noticably shorter than Thor.
SpiderByte
03-05-2010, 10:43 PM
Couldn't they just make Thor taller, if Cap needs to be shorter?
SpiderByte
03-05-2010, 10:49 PM
over 24 hours without total war. Congrats guys!
That person
03-05-2010, 10:52 PM
Forgive me for not being able to keep up with this very well, but when was Flueger officially declared to be out of the running?
Parker Wayne
03-05-2010, 10:59 PM
over 24 hours without total war. Congrats guys!
:applaud:up::cap:
C. Lee
03-05-2010, 11:05 PM
Couldn't they just make Thor taller, if Cap needs to be shorter?
Always remember...John Rhys Davies played a dwarf.
blinkuldhc
03-05-2010, 11:09 PM
Always remember...John Rhys Davies played a dwarf.
Is he really 6'1"????
C. Lee
03-05-2010, 11:20 PM
Is he really 6'1"????
Yep. Watch some of his other movies...like Raiders of the Lost Ark....
Deaths Head II
03-05-2010, 11:59 PM
I wonder if they'll give Thor high heels like they did with Cyclops in the X-Men films. It always made me laugh when I spotted them.
Grand Sophy
03-06-2010, 12:18 AM
ScreenRant (http://screenrant.com/captain-america-casting-updates-neal-bledsoe-rob-47424/) summarizes the casting choices.
hugekent
03-06-2010, 01:06 AM
I wonder if they'll give Thor high heels like they did with Cyclops in the X-Men films. It always made me laugh when I spotted them.
If Krasinski is cast you would think scenes between he and Hemsworth would require Thor to have lifts on.
Gamma Goliath
03-06-2010, 01:09 AM
so anyone else think vogel is getting the part?
dsfjr1190
03-06-2010, 01:14 AM
so anyone else think vogel is getting the part?
God, I hope so.
Yes and I am excited about it as he was one of my choices :).
Jake Cassidy
03-06-2010, 01:23 AM
I hope it's Vogel, too.
danger
03-06-2010, 01:28 AM
It's funny, months and months ago, I popped in here and mentioned mike vogel. I think only one or two people liked the idea.
Deaths Head II
03-06-2010, 01:41 AM
It's funny, months and months ago, I popped in here and mentioned mike vogel. I think only one or two people liked the idea.
It's because he showed up on the list that people starting warming up to the idea of him in the role. Probably because they knew it meant Marvel was considering him and seeing something Cap-like in him. It's the same case with JK.
Not the case with Crawford though. :hehe:
the_tortel
03-06-2010, 02:09 AM
I support Crawford for the "worst person alive" consolation prize
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/the_tortel/chace.jpg
Mr. Chace Crawford kills puppies...
Weapon of choice: kittens
Asgard
03-06-2010, 02:18 AM
Lol, Chace.
A poster said that hed never accept a beer bottle sucker as Capt America and I agree.
WillardNation
03-06-2010, 02:20 AM
So I'm getting caught up on this season of Chuck and I can't help but think that Mcpartlin seriously would've made an awesome Cap. (pun kind of intended). He's seriously the closest looking out of the whole bunch, he's got a good strong voice and (even though Chuck doesn't really give him room to show much range) from what I can tell he's a fairly good actor. BUT again, I trust in Marvel.......
Young Superman
03-06-2010, 04:09 AM
Vogel wouldn't be a bad chocie.
afrayedknot
03-06-2010, 04:26 AM
Just out of curiosity, have any movies been made with "fanboy" dream casting?
Webhead2006
03-06-2010, 04:37 AM
saw the news the other day(friday) about scott porter. Darn shame he is out of the list officially from his own words. i really feel bad for the guy. He is a huge comics fan and now has lost out alot of roles. Though i hope he tests for flash if that actually gets into production this go around.
Saw the news of the rob bledsoe guy. I doubt he was testing for steve rogers himself. Since if the remaining list of guys we know of are the finalists for steve. That rob guy was probably testing for some other role. Maybe one of the invaders who knows.
Now that cassidy and porter are out. The two i really would like to see in the role are mike vogel or garrett helund. As for chance heck no dont want him, as for that patrick flueger and Wilson Bethel. i dont really know their work. So i am neutral on those guys. Then as for krasinski as i said he isnt who i would first pick for the role.
But he had to have alot of good qualities in his test/could bring to the role of steve rogers. To marvel to make it this far into the casting stages. So if he was the one to officially be named i would be open for him. Who knows he could probably end up as a very good captain america. And as i and others have stated many times over. With the 4+ months to shooting he could get in much better shape. Its all about diet he goes on. Then what training/weight lifting programs he does. He could easily tone his body to lose any fat in face, and bulk up.
Hopefully we will know for sure who is cap in the next few days. Cant wait to we know for sure. So all this casting debates could end. So we can get to just the good/bad qualities of the pick. And wait to see how things shape up in the coming months.
afrayedknot
03-06-2010, 04:38 AM
I was just watching "Hostage" and was amazed at how much of a chameleon Ben Foster is. I think if Krasinski gets the role, Hollywood magic and strict diet and exercise might do wonders.
craigdbfan
03-06-2010, 04:39 AM
Lol, Chace.
A poster said that hed never accept a beer bottle sucker as Capt America and I agree.
That'd be me sir. :hehe:
Like I said before the minute he took this picture he was automatically disqualified as ever being Cap.
http://images.hollywoodgrind.com:9000/images/2008/6/chace-crawford-sucks-bottle.jpg
Steve Holt
03-06-2010, 05:25 AM
I was just watching "Hostage" and was amazed at how much of a chameleon Ben Foster is. I think if Krasinski gets the role, Hollywood magic and strict diet and exercise might do wonders.
hahahaha, i love ben foster. he's a great actor. but he's played the same character in like 5 different movies
louiebling$
03-06-2010, 06:11 AM
saw the news the other day(friday) about scott porter. Darn shame he is out of the list officially from his own words. i really feel bad for the guy. He is a huge comics fan and now has lost out alot of roles. Though i hope he tests for flash if that actually gets into production this go around.
Saw the news of the rob bledsoe guy. I doubt he was testing for steve rogers himself. Since if the remaining list of guys we know of are the finalists for steve. That rob guy was probably testing for some other role. Maybe one of the invaders who knows.
Now that cassidy and porter are out. The two i really would like to see in the role are mike vogel or garrett helund. As for chance heck no dont want him, as for that patrick flueger and Wilson Bethel. i dont really know their work. So i am neutral on those guys. Then as for krasinski as i said he isnt who i would first pick for the role.
But he had to have alot of good qualities in his test/could bring to the role of steve rogers. To marvel to make it this far into the casting stages. So if he was the one to officially be named i would be open for him. Who knows he could probably end up as a very good captain america. And as i and others have stated many times over. With the 4+ months to shooting he could get in much better shape. Its all about diet he goes on. Then what training/weight lifting programs he does. He could easily tone his body to lose any fat in face, and bulk up.
Hopefully we will know for sure who is cap in the next few days. Cant wait to we know for sure. So all this casting debates could end. So we can get to just the good/bad qualities of the pick. And wait to see how things shape up in the coming months.
Umm where did Porter count himself out :huh:
I need a link
Majik1387
03-06-2010, 06:13 AM
Forgive me for not being able to keep up with this very well, but when was Flueger officially declared to be out of the running?
I don't think he ever was dropped from the running. I wouldn't be disappointed with him either though.
so anyone else think vogel is getting the part?
God, I hope so.
Yes and I am excited about it as he was one of my choices :).
I hope it's Vogel, too.
Same here.
I support Crawford for the "worst person alive" consolation prize
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/the_tortel/chace.jpg
Mr. Chace Crawford kills puppies...
Weapon of choice: kittens
That'd be me sir. :hehe:
Like I said before the minute he took this picture he was automatically disqualified as ever being Cap.
http://images.hollywoodgrind.com:9000/images/2008/6/chace-crawford-sucks-bottle.jpg
:whatever:
Majik1387
03-06-2010, 06:14 AM
Umm where did Porter count himself out :huh:
I need a link
On his facebook.:csad:
louiebling$
03-06-2010, 06:22 AM
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but Porter is out.
http://io9.com/5486682/another-captain-america-tester-bites-the-dust-thats-2-down
Aww **** Me!
:csad:
:waa:
:csad:
:waa:
:waa:
This ****ing Sucks
craigdbfan
03-06-2010, 06:23 AM
:whatever:
Believe it.
Majik1387
03-06-2010, 06:25 AM
Believe it.
Yeah because a movie studio will look at ONE picture that's nothing edgy in Hollywood and will be like hell no.
Bull****.
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