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Silvermoth
10-21-2009, 12:38 AM
^I'd be alright with most of the people on that list. I'm not familar with some on your list so I can't comment.
You just did! Good show, good show!
WillardNation
10-21-2009, 12:39 AM
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WillardNation
10-21-2009, 12:40 AM
Casper Van Dien all the way. He's actually a military kid so he knows the military inside and out. And he looks just like Steve. Perfect fit.
http://www.insidesocal.com/outinhollywood/casper_van_dien_04.jpg
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Efergy/CasperVanDien.jpg
http://www.menshairstylesonline.com/Hair/Short-Mens-Hairstyles/Casper-Van-Dien-Taper.jpg
:facepalm: times a million
afrayedknot
10-21-2009, 12:50 AM
Do you think that Joe Johnston is as concerned about Brad Pitt's, Matt Damon's, or Leo Dicaprio's age as everyone else is?
Also, it's been argued by many people that the reason for a big name actor for Cap is "The Avengers" movie. He has to be convincing as the leader of a team of superheroes! And, I think that in order for that chemistry to work, it should be an actor that is believable as the leader of the award-winning cast.
Have the above-mentioned names been ruled out by the director, or have they just been ruled out by people in the forum?
Webhead2006
10-21-2009, 01:16 AM
My Short List
1. Scott Porter
2. Cam Gigandet
3. Chris Carmack
4. Trevor Donovan
5. Teddy Sears
Ackles would be a great choice but unrealistic.
I wouldnt mind any of these as steve rogers.
Sawyer
10-21-2009, 01:21 AM
Do you think that Joe Johnston is as concerned about Brad Pitt's, Matt Damon's, or Leo Dicaprio's age as everyone else is?
Also, it's been argued by many people that the reason for a big name actor for Cap is "The Avengers" movie. He has to be convincing as the leader of a team of superheroes! And, I think that in order for that chemistry to work, it should be an actor that is believable as the leader of the award-winning cast.
Have the above-mentioned names been ruled out by the director, or have they just been ruled out by people in the forum?
Not so much Damon and DiCaprio. But he should be worried about Pitt. That dudes getting old and he's starting to look it. I've always pictured Steve being late 20s.
Sawyer
10-21-2009, 01:24 AM
My Short List
1. Scott Porter
2. Cam Gigandet
3. Chris Carmack
4. Trevor Donovan
5. Teddy Sears
Ackles would be a great choice but unrealistic.
I dont see how...
daywalker2007
10-21-2009, 02:49 AM
its either Ackles or Gigandet for me!
Either would do a terrific job.
I would place Ackles slightly as favourite as he is an excellent actor, great charisma and could pull off any wisecracking scenes with the other avengers with ease.
Ackles for cap!!
I SEE SPIDEY
10-21-2009, 02:53 AM
^I love me some Ackles but he ain't getting the role.
Wally West
10-21-2009, 03:28 AM
Do you think that Joe Johnston is as concerned about Brad Pitt's, Matt Damon's, or Leo Dicaprio's age as everyone else is?
Also, it's been argued by many people that the reason for a big name actor for Cap is "The Avengers" movie. He has to be convincing as the leader of a team of superheroes! And, I think that in order for that chemistry to work, it should be an actor that is believable as the leader of the award-winning cast.
Have the above-mentioned names been ruled out by the director, or have they just been ruled out by people in the forum?
Its just people on the forum so far. There are alot of people insisting Cap would have to be enlistment age. That's a valid arguement, but I don't believe it's a deal breaker for the people casting this thing. Especially if it turns out they really want A-list talent to boost the film overseas.
I like comic book films to be as true to the sorce material as possible, but like any other comic film certain things can and probably will be tweaked for this. If they feel a specific actor is the right choice I have no doubts they would cast a 35-40 year old and pass them off in character as being a few years younger. And it's not like someone who was past enlistment age being allowed to serve in this instance would be impossible for audiences to believe. If they give him the serum he'll be running circles around any 18-25 year old he's serving with, so I don't see his age holding the story back.
Ace of Knaves
10-21-2009, 03:33 AM
Well it was a draft in WWII wasn't it?
Who says this 30-40 year old bloke got drafted, didn't meet the required health to serve or whatever, but he desperately wanted to serve his country, so volunteered for the Super Soldier serum couldn't work?
louiebling$
10-21-2009, 03:53 AM
I dont see how...
His schedule
Timstuff
10-21-2009, 04:17 AM
Something about Armie Hammer just screams "Steve Rogers" to me. I know that like with any little-known actor it's a long shot, but I hope he at least auditions.
http://static.episode39.it/character/2926.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9287/009ei.jpg
jab1118
10-21-2009, 04:42 AM
Hearing that marvel has a wishlist pretty much rules out unknown to lesser known actors in my mind. Also I think it sounds like some big stars will be offered the part first and I'm not sure how I feel about it i just hope no Pitt unless he is being offered the role of steves dad or something
:facepalm: times a million
I have to admit that Casper Van Dien's face and especially jawline would be pretty good but then the true problem with him gets in the way of that...he's not a good actor. :hehe:
Blackman
10-21-2009, 11:11 AM
Hearing that marvel has a wishlist pretty much rules out unknown to lesser known actors in my mind. Also I think it sounds like some big stars will be offered the part first and I'm not sure how I feel about it i just hope no Pitt unless he is being offered the role of steves dad or something
Not necessarily I think. When you look at Marvel's casting over the years. They like to do actors who either aren't huge names (Hemsworth, MacGuire) or who have never done a film like that before (Norton, RDJ).
Sure they do make films with some big names but I dont think their in the mindstate of DC who think they always need big name actors
Brian Braddock
10-21-2009, 11:19 AM
I have to admit that Casper Van Dien's face and especially jawline would be pretty good but then the true problem with him gets in the way of that...he's not a good actor. :hehe:
I posted this a while back:-
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/6a00e54fb7301c883400e553a1d4978833-.jpg
Now based on Van Diens's looks alone, that could pass for some sort of S.H.I.E.L.D. computer file on Steve Rogers.
But as you say, when you factor in Van Dien's acting ability, well..............:hehe:
His schedule
Unless The CW wants Supernatural for another season. Then season five/current season is the last one. That was the original plan anyway.
chris moore
10-21-2009, 11:45 AM
Well it was a draft in WWII wasn't it?
Who says this 30-40 year old bloke got drafted, didn't meet the required health to serve or whatever, but he desperately wanted to serve his country, so volunteered for the Super Soldier serum couldn't work?
The assumption everyone makes about Cap's age is that every single man who tried to enlist when the war broke out (or more importantly, when the US joined the war) was 18 or younger (and lying about their age).
I guess I'll just repost this every few pages to address the age issue as nobody wants to trawl through the last 20 pages or so to make sure they arent about to rehash an old issue.
"The thing about being old enough to join up doesnt mean every single person standing in line at the recruitment office back in '41 was 18 years old. Steve Rogers could easily be written as a 25 year old in 1941, thereby making him born during the first world war, the year before the US joined in. His father gets called up to fight in late 1917 as a result of the conscription act and he dies in service doing something heroic that saves his unit or something. Steve is raised not knowing his father, but surrounded by a supportive family of uncles, aunts etc as well as his mother who tells him often about his father and how bravely he fought.
The US enters the war in 1941, and Steve (now 25) goes down to join. Events progress as normal. Steve is then 29 in 1945 when he gets frozen. While he is in suspended animation between 1945 and the present day, whatever his physical makeup, simply being frozen in regular ice is not a true suspended animation process. So while he is young and vigourous and the SSS in his blood maintains his youth, he has aged maybe 2-3 years physiologically in the 72 years he's down there.
And there you go - a perfectly reasonable explanation for the character being physiologically 33 or so in modern times, and therefore absolutely fine to have an actor who looks 33ish when Steve is actually 25-29 in his beefed up Cap physique."
DocHoliday
10-21-2009, 11:59 AM
I know people are talking about Brad Pitt, Aaron Eckhart and Matt Damon but aren't all of those guys pushing 40 or over when we have heard they want a 23 to 35 year old actor.
It will probably be someone really unexpected getting the role.
For Damon I'm sure they'd make an exception. Jason Bourne FTW.
Project862006
10-21-2009, 03:23 PM
i think they might choose Matt Damon if they want a name simply because yes he may be pushing 40 he just does'nt look it at all
http://i38.tinypic.com/2z5t5ki.jpg
Gamma Goliath
10-21-2009, 04:37 PM
chris pine.
Young Superman
10-21-2009, 05:10 PM
Teddy Sears
Timstuff
10-21-2009, 05:35 PM
Armie Hammer
Blackman
10-21-2009, 05:43 PM
OJ Simpson
jaymes_e06
10-21-2009, 05:56 PM
Ummm.... RAPE!!!
Sawyer
10-21-2009, 06:13 PM
chris pine.
Nah. I cant see him wanting to be apart of another franchise just yet.
DACMAN
10-21-2009, 07:34 PM
I posted this a while back:-
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/6a00e54fb7301c883400e553a1d4978833-.jpg
Now based on Van Diens's looks alone, that could pass for some sort of S.H.I.E.L.D. computer file on Steve Rogers.
But as you say, when you factor in Van Dien's acting ability, well..............:hehe:
He was great in Starship Troopers 1. Who's directing is everything.
And I don't care what anyone says, that guy looks just freaken like Steve Rogers.
Jake Cassidy
10-21-2009, 07:40 PM
Ryan Kwanten from 'True Blood' would be fantastic as Cap. But he's Australian so it isn't going to happen, which is a real shame.
i think they might choose Matt Damon if they want a name simply because yes he may be pushing 40 he just does'nt look it at all
http://i38.tinypic.com/2z5t5ki.jpg
he would be my absolute #1 pick, but i heard he already said he doesn't want the role.
Brian2887
10-21-2009, 08:00 PM
1. Armie Hammer
http://armie-hammer.com/media/billy/04.jpg
2. Scott Porter
http://www.poptower.com/images/db/260/420/300/scott-porter.jpg
3. Cam Gigandet
http://cullenboysanonymous.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/cam-gigandet-picture.jpg
4. Teddy Sears
http://www.chair17productions.com/images/ptr/raise_the_bar_sears_promo_s2_3rev.jpg
5. Leonardo Dicaprio
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/blood_diamond/leonardo_dicaprio/blooddiamond1.jpg
I'll be surprised if it's not one of these guys. Personally, I'm kinda rooting for Hammer. Classic look, good age, and badass name.
Webhead2006
10-21-2009, 08:47 PM
yea i said before i would be down with hammer for cap, as for the others above i dont really know their work. and leo i dont think would be the best. Though we have no clue how things will go to we get some casting slides/names rumored to be testing/looked at.
tamron
10-21-2009, 10:20 PM
Garrett Hedlund. I'm convinced he can deliver a great Cap.
cerealkiller182
10-21-2009, 10:21 PM
Not 100%. but i think hedlund is a better choice than most
WeaponXProject
10-22-2009, 12:20 PM
I'm not sure n e more, I still think screen presence and command is important which makes me lean towards star power.
That person
10-22-2009, 01:08 PM
So to those who insist on "star power", how does Scott Eastwood fit in? He might not be a renouned actor in his own right, but his name is HUGE, nonetheless. He seems to hit all the other checkmarks as well: Blonde hair, blue eyes, early 20's, square chin, American decent build that can get better, and talent. Currently he's my top choice, although I'd like to see Hammer (if they can make Hsmsworth 5" lifts that don't look absurd), Winchester, Gigantet, Hedlund or Macht.
daderade
10-22-2009, 04:08 PM
i am almost willing to bet that Channing Tatum guy is going to get it.
tamron
10-22-2009, 04:16 PM
i am almost willing to bet that Channing Tatum guy is going to get it.
I hope you're wrong. Otherwise all hope for this film and Avengers is lost, imho.
Webhead2006
10-22-2009, 05:14 PM
i serious doubt channing would be pick, he has gi joe to play with, and i think he was asked about cap and said he didnt want it. Sure he is young and has a decent look. But marvel can go with alot better actors who are semi known and all that.
daderade
10-22-2009, 05:32 PM
i really want Chris Pine to do it.....but like i said, i have a fear.....ive had terrible visions.....Channing Tatum will be Captain America!
Webhead2006
10-22-2009, 07:24 PM
pine is likely going to be to busy to do it, since he has a bunch of films on his plate, then when ever star trek 2 happens. AS i said i doubt marvel would pick channing of all folks to be steve. There is alot more qualified known and unknown actors out there better then him. I have nothing against him. I havent seen alot of his work. But i think there is better folks out there. Plus look at marvel studios films track record so far. We have gotten some quality names out there.
daderade
10-22-2009, 10:48 PM
probably...much like Thor, it will be someone nobody thought of, but is perfect.
Webhead2006
10-23-2009, 12:08 AM
yea most likely, then they will build up supporting roles with some more known/unknown guys and bam.
Triad
10-23-2009, 01:13 AM
I know that this is a totally unrealistic fantasy, but my ideal pick for the perfect Captain America would be a young Kurt Russell in peak physical condition. If only we could travel back in time....
Webhead2006
10-23-2009, 02:16 AM
oh yea maybe back in his early disney film days or just after that would have been a prime kurt russell.
daderade
10-23-2009, 03:17 AM
my top 5...in no particular order
Chris Pine, Cam Gigandet, Gabriel Macht, Justin Hartley and Brad Pitt(i know he is a little older, but he doesnt really look it, and with makeup like in Benjamin Button...)
Triad
10-23-2009, 03:19 AM
oh yea maybe back in his early disney film days or just after that would have been a prime kurt russell.
Around or just before the original Escape from New York movie. But a little more buff.
Brian Braddock
10-23-2009, 06:08 AM
The Kurt Russell that we saw in 'Soldier' would have been great as a more experienced Cap.
Young Superman
10-23-2009, 06:16 AM
I can't see Kurt Russell as Cap but I think he would have made a great classic 616 Nick fury.
WillardNation
10-23-2009, 08:15 PM
^true dat
I Am Jack's...
10-23-2009, 08:36 PM
I can't really give a numbered list of my choices for Cap, I can pretty much only give my number one choice, but I'll list some actors I wouldn't mind in the role:
1. Jensen Ackles, my top choice for the role, has basically everything required to play Cap, I.E. height, athletic build, strong, square jaw, All-American look, tons of charisma, a commanding voice, and is great at doing dramatic scenes, and light-hearted ones too.
These are in no particular order:
Chris Pine, I think he's the ABSOLUTELY PERFECT Hawkeye, but I wouldn't be pissed if he was cast as C.A.
Patrick Wilson, amazing actor, I think he would be able to pull it off no problem, though he is also perfect for a different Avenger as Pine is for Hawkeye. That Avenger is Hank Pym!
Garret Hedlund, I'd want him to be Winter Soldier (but not Bucky, he doesn't fit that part of the character) or Angel in X-Men, but I doubt he'd be bad, I think we'll get a good performance from him in Tron 2.
Aaron Eckhart, personally I belive he is and looks too old for Cap, and I just can't see him as the type of soldier the character of Captain America is. Though he is one hell of an actor, so he wouldn't be the worst choice in the world.
NEXUS 6
10-23-2009, 10:01 PM
I know that this is a totally unrealistic fantasy, but my ideal pick for the perfect Captain America would be a young Kurt Russell in peak physical condition. If only we could travel back in time....
Couldn't agree more. I posted a while back that he is perfect for Cap maybe a few years before he did Soldier.
WeaponXProject
10-24-2009, 05:46 PM
So to those who insist on "star power", how does Scott Eastwood fit in? He might not be a renouned actor in his own right, but his name is HUGE, nonetheless. He seems to hit all the other checkmarks as well: Blonde hair, blue eyes, early 20's, square chin, American decent build that can get better, and talent. Currently he's my top choice, although I'd like to see Hammer (if they can make Hsmsworth 5" lifts that don't look absurd), Winchester, Gigantet, Hedlund or Macht.
No he's ugly and has no talent. He will not be a candidate. Have you seen him act?
probably...much like Thor, it will be someone nobody thought of, but is perfect.
I doubt it, do you remember Marvel saying they wanted an international star. The reason Thor was cast a stage actor is because Branagh picks stage actors. Thor is not expected to be as big to me as Captain America is going to be, imo.
tamron
10-24-2009, 06:38 PM
I know that this is a totally unrealistic fantasy, but my ideal pick for the perfect Captain America would be a young Kurt Russell in peak physical condition. If only we could travel back in time....
If we're talking all-time, prime Robert Redford would be my pick for Cap.
cerealkiller182
10-24-2009, 06:39 PM
If we're talking all-time, prime Robert Redford would be my pick for Cap.
yea pretty much
idrnkurmlkshks
10-24-2009, 06:41 PM
No Aaron Eckhart? I'm pretty sure The Dark Knight was his audition, and we all learned we "should buy American!"
daderade
10-24-2009, 07:17 PM
a younger Thomas Jane would be better
idrnkurmlkshks
10-24-2009, 08:01 PM
Agreed, but Punisher screwed that up I'd imagine.
daderade
10-24-2009, 09:17 PM
technically no, since the wrote that one off in place of the new one.
Webhead2006
10-24-2009, 09:55 PM
aaron would be nice but since we know its an origin pick he is likely over the age range marvel wants to go for.
If we're talking all-time, prime Robert Redford would be my pick for Cap.
for me, it would be ed harris.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYtPJwBD1ng/SFqaaAWIi0I/AAAAAAAAD7s/rV2_z4fqPXg/s1600/Ed-Harris.jpg
NEXUS 6
10-25-2009, 03:34 PM
My Top Three of all time, in no particular order
Charlton Heston
Kirk Douglas
Kurt Russell
and Redford as a runner up.
Wolvieboy17
10-25-2009, 09:08 PM
The reason Thor was cast a stage actor is because Branagh picks stage actors. Thor is not expected to be as big to me as Captain America is going to be, imo.
Actually, he was a star on an Australian soap opera called 'Home and Away'.
goh78
10-26-2009, 11:40 AM
Not sure if anyone as mentioned this guy...
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0935721/
Eric Winter. Was in craptastic movies such as Harold and Kumar 2 and The Ugly Truth, but wasn't too bad in either. Def has the look.
jaymes_e06
10-26-2009, 12:16 PM
^Yeah I have brang him up to a luke warm/ scathing response.
Wolvieboy17
10-26-2009, 12:24 PM
Thats what you get for branging with reckless abandon.
jaymes_e06
10-26-2009, 12:30 PM
^Umm.... What? :huh:
Timstuff
10-26-2009, 12:45 PM
Typos are funds.
JamesBuchananWS
10-26-2009, 06:23 PM
No matter who is picked. I hope that the actor that is picked to portray Capt. - he'ld damn well better make sure to act like someone out of the 1930-40's era.
Not some modern snot nosed punk.
NEXUS 6
10-26-2009, 07:44 PM
Not some modern snot nosed punk.
Exactly. Which is why frickin Channing Tatum should not be in this movie. (And he can't act).
Gamma Goliath
10-26-2009, 07:57 PM
i agree whole heartedly, his acting resembles john cena's
WeaponXProject
10-26-2009, 08:07 PM
Actually, he was a star on an Australian soap opera called 'Home and Away'. I had heard of him being a stage star. Which is typical Branagh and not Joe Johnston.
If we're talking all-time, prime Robert Redford would be my pick for Cap.
I'm with you, I always thought of him. By the way watched the Natural the other day and forgot the ending was opposite the books completely...
DACMAN
10-26-2009, 08:10 PM
My Top Three of all time, in no particular order
Charlton Heston
Kirk Douglas
Kurt Russell
and Redford as a runner up.
I always thought Kurt Russell would have been the perfect Wolverine.
Triad
10-26-2009, 10:42 PM
After seeing Reindeer Games, I was pushing for Gary Sinese for Wolvie. I know it was a little of a stretch, but I bet he would have owned the role if he would have got it. (If he was even up for it, IDK.)
Antonello Blueberry
10-27-2009, 05:17 AM
Sinise was one of the actors considered early on for Wolverine.
Timstuff
10-27-2009, 12:37 PM
Sinise would have been great as Wolvie, too. I do love Jackman in the role, though.
Anyway, back on topic. Remember how much I think Armie Hammer looks like Steve Rogers? :D
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2156/mv5bnjiznza1mtcwml5bml5.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/i/mv5bnjiznza1mtcwml5bml5.jpg/)
Webhead2006
10-27-2009, 12:43 PM
i wouldnt mind if he was cast. I think he is better suited for cap then he was if jlm had actually happend and he was to be batman. Though he probably would have looked crazy in the batman suit.
Chewy
10-27-2009, 01:16 PM
Chris Pine is still my ideal pick, but that looks even less likely than it did before (and it was never terribly likely to being with) due to his Jack Ryan casting.
The more I see of Cam Gigandet the more I think he may be the man for the job. He's got the look and he seems to have the talent.
Garrett Hedlund is also an interesting choice, and I think he could do great things with the role.
As for the 'unknown' debate, let me toss in my two cents. In my mind there is a great deal of difference between casting an 'unknown', ala Brandon Routh, as the lead in your big budget movie and casting a 'rising star', ala Chris Hemsworh, as the lead in your big budget movie. Routh was plucked from complete obscurity, thrust into the limelight as an iconic character in his first sizable role in a studio movie. A guy like Chris Hemsworth, on the other hand, has been at it for a few years, landed gigs in studio movies that are initially small but grow to be more plump roles, and built up his resume to the point where a casting agent would notice him. Do I think Marvel will cast an unknown? No. Do I think Marvel will cast a rising star? Absolutely. And, imo, guys like Cam Gigandet and Garrett Hedlund are rising stars.
Young Superman
10-27-2009, 01:26 PM
Teddy Sears
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Skoh-lE8sO0/SLSLiATNCRI/AAAAAAAAJ5U/R47SFxcMTB4/s400/RTB_PK_18_Teddy+Sears+PH+Kyle+Christy.jpghttp://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/blogs/popwrap/200906/Images/200906_teddy-sears-interview.jpg
Compi716
10-27-2009, 02:18 PM
Teddy Sears
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Skoh-lE8sO0/SLSLiATNCRI/AAAAAAAAJ5U/R47SFxcMTB4/s400/RTB_PK_18_Teddy+Sears+PH+Kyle+Christy.jpghttp://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/blogs/popwrap/200906/Images/200906_teddy-sears-interview.jpg
Very good choice.
Young Superman
10-27-2009, 02:33 PM
Thanks
chris moore
10-27-2009, 04:38 PM
Armie Hammer is surely pushing top choice in the 'more unknown' category!
Armie for Unknown
Eric Dane for more famous but not big price tag
Jensen Ackles in the back up option
louiebling$
10-27-2009, 10:38 PM
I'm sorry... Eric Dane is TOO OLD!
Webhead2006
10-28-2009, 12:32 AM
should be interesting if we get any casting slides released before we hear of any potential actors for the role.
danger
10-28-2009, 12:37 AM
Just a random choice...
Mike Vogel
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6696/mvogel2.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9158/mikevogel.jpg
Young Superman
10-28-2009, 12:47 AM
Too sort he's only 5' 10" .
danger
10-28-2009, 01:07 AM
matt damon- 5'10
leo dicaprio- 5'11
matthew mccaughnehey- 5'10
ryan phillipe- 5'8
jeremy renner- 5'9
and most of the others you all mentioned are either 6'0 or 6'1
so you're point is?
louiebling$
10-28-2009, 02:54 AM
I like Vogel a lot but his height is a factor.
chris moore
10-28-2009, 04:49 AM
I'm sorry... Eric Dane is TOO OLD!
We've been over this age thing ad nauseum. Aside from it being perfectly acceptable for Cap to chronologically be 25 when he joins up, the supersoldier serum enhances everything about his physicality (including the shape of his face even). Therefore his face looking 30-33 is also fine and believeable. Dane is only 36, but is youthful looking - but is broad (doesnt matter how much muscle Tobey put on for Spidey - he's still slight and the same goes for the Dicaprio fans, the man could bulk, but he'd still have a narrow shoulderwidth), has the voice, the jaw, the height, and is a great actor so far. On Greys he gives an air of commanding respect even when he's being a wise-ass. That translates well.
Those who say about Cap needing to be 18 when he joins up constantly get rebuffed by those who say Iron Man etc are never going to take orders or look up to a kid, so they say Cap needs to look much older. An actor in his early 30's lives in that happy middle ground
Timstuff
10-28-2009, 04:50 AM
matt damon- 5'10
leo dicaprio- 5'11
matthew mccaughnehey- 5'10
ryan phillipe- 5'8
jeremy renner- 5'9
and most of the others you all mentioned are either 6'0 or 6'1
so you're point is?
The point is HAMMER TIME!
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/Timstuff_photos/armie_hammer_captain_america_02.jpg
Steve Holt
10-28-2009, 04:53 AM
very good choice.
win!!!!!
Young Superman
10-28-2009, 05:20 AM
Teddy Sears - 6'3
Timstuff
10-28-2009, 05:37 AM
I wouldn't mind Sears.
tamron
10-28-2009, 07:16 AM
Garrett Hedlund - 6'2"
chris moore
10-28-2009, 08:50 AM
Garrett Hedlund - perpetual teenager by the looks of him. Sorry
petey
10-28-2009, 10:20 AM
I still dig on Jensen Ackles as The Cap. It would be diffrent to see him up with heavy hitting actors. Maybe even show his skill as a bankable actor. Idk where all the anti-jensen comes from.
Steve Holt
10-28-2009, 10:46 AM
Sears so far is the most promising choice, he has a different looking face to Hemsworth which is a huge plus considering they're both blondish blue-eyed caucasians, not to mention the 40's look to him. He's got the acting chops, he's got the perfect height between Hemsworth and RDJ, He looks youthful yet at the same time very mature.
Armie Hammer's ok but he seems Thor sized and has a rounded baby face, he seems better suited to Captain Marvel (DC)
Triad
10-28-2009, 10:52 AM
Garrett Hedlund - perpetual teenager by the looks of him. Sorry
I have to agree.
I like Sears, Hammer, McPartlin & Donovan at the moment. I'd be open to other suggestions too though.
Spider-Fan83
10-28-2009, 10:54 AM
I know who I recently started to reconsider, or at least who I think could deserve a second look at (I briefly consider him awhile back, but, he never really got to much consideration from others, an I never really hear him be brought back up by anyone else) but, given some of the names that get mentioned, unknowns, and knows alike, he certainly isn't the worst idea out there
(and I know I am going to get some crap for, but..)
Shane West
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7273/echelonconspiracyjpg595.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/echelonconspiracyjpg595.jpg/)
he's 31 now, he is atleast 6'1"
Chewy
10-28-2009, 11:17 AM
Garrett Hedlund - perpetual teenager by the looks of him. Sorry
I'm going to have to disagree on that one (http://www.accesshollywood.com/comic-con/comic-con-2009-jeff-bridges-garrett-hedlund-and-olivia-wilde-talk-tron-legacy-july-23-2009_video_1138824)
He looks like a 25 year old.
louiebling$
10-28-2009, 11:41 AM
We've been over this age thing ad nauseum. Aside from it being perfectly acceptable for Cap to chronologically be 25 when he joins up, the supersoldier serum enhances everything about his physicality (including the shape of his face even). Therefore his face looking 30-33 is also fine and believeable. Dane is only 36, but is youthful looking - but is broad (doesnt matter how much muscle Tobey put on for Spidey - he's still slight and the same goes for the Dicaprio fans, the man could bulk, but he'd still have a narrow shoulderwidth), has the voice, the jaw, the height, and is a great actor so far. On Greys he gives an air of commanding respect even when he's being a wise-ass. That translates well.
Those who say about Cap needing to be 18 when he joins up constantly get rebuffed by those who say Iron Man etc are never going to take orders or look up to a kid, so they say Cap needs to look much older. An actor in his early 30's lives in that happy middle ground
His knees are Shot , His wrinkles are showing, he is greying up the man doesn't age well on top of that he wouldn't be able to do any of his stunts because of his knee's.
Cap doesn't need to be young... they can alter his origin to fit the age of the actor they are casting. For example, in the 1990 movie, they had Steve already older, but instead of being frail and weak... he had polio... and that is why he was not allowed to enlist.
IF... they wanted to go with an older actor... they could just slightly alter the origin... ther is no law saying that Cap must be young when he enlists.
Just playing devil's advocate here :D
Ace of Knaves
10-28-2009, 01:27 PM
Well you are right. Someone who enlists or is drafted doesn't necessarily need to be 18 or whatever.
I SEE SPIDEY
10-28-2009, 01:31 PM
Shane West?
I avoid movies that he is in. No thanks.
Webhead2006
10-28-2009, 01:46 PM
i am not sure who i would like there has been a few names i do like teddy spears, armie hammer, jensen ackles and a few others. But we will probably not know what marvel is looking for in steve rogers choice to we get some casting details/slides. Or hear of X person testing and then we can see if they are going with that X guy here is some Y guys who are simular and likely to be testing.
Chewy
10-28-2009, 01:57 PM
Maybe it's just me but I don't see the appeal in Armie Hammer. He's got a bad case of baby-face and he was not at all good in the trailer I saw for that Billy Graham movie.
danger
10-28-2009, 06:43 PM
at 5'10, he would still be taller than RDJ, and I don't think it's important that he's taller than thor. 5'10 is a workable height to film around.
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6608/mikevogelinunascenadelf.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1782/thedeathsofianstonemike.jpg
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/2161/30n9e85.jpg
That person
10-28-2009, 06:51 PM
No he's ugly and has no talent. He will not be a candidate. Have you seen him act?
*sigh* Why do people insist that the actor for Cap be eligible for Sexiest Man Alive? As for his acting skills, I don't think he's done enough for anyone to really judge that. My question had more to do with whether or not he had the "name recognition" so many people are obsessed about
filmguy619
10-28-2009, 09:24 PM
Scott Porter should play the Cap. Either him or anybody except Channing Tatum.
Webhead2006
10-29-2009, 12:37 AM
Tatum i serious doubt would even be looked at. Just look at guys who have been in the marvel studios films. We got some serious talented guy. Why would they go and give steve rogers who is an important character to him.
louiebling$
10-29-2009, 01:14 AM
Scott Porter should play the Cap. Either him or anybody except Channing Tatum.
:up:
Always show love for a fellow Porter supporter :up:
WillardNation
10-29-2009, 01:51 AM
*sigh* Why do people insist that the actor for Cap be eligible for Sexiest Man Alive? As for his acting skills, I don't think he's done enough for anyone to really judge that. My question had more to do with whether or not he had the "name recognition" so many people are obsessed about
Have you ever seen a Captain America comic? Steve Rogers is by no means an unattractive man.
Triad
10-29-2009, 01:52 AM
I'm still really hoping Ryan McPartlin tests. I think he could rock the role!
Timstuff
10-29-2009, 02:32 AM
The suggestions I like so far:
Armie Hammer
Teddy Sears
Ryan McPartlin
:up:
hugekent
10-29-2009, 06:30 AM
My main problem with age is not that Captain America is supposed to be young, it's that the guy cast is going to be playing CA for a number of years. Even someone like Phillipe who's around 35 will be 40 by the time the second Avengers movie comes out (if it does).
Triad
10-29-2009, 01:11 PM
The suggestions I like so far:
Armie Hammer
Teddy Sears
Ryan McPartlin
:up:
Yeah, those are my favs too, but in this order:
1. Ryan McPartlin ("Captain Awesome" would be an "awesome" Captain America, IMHO!)
2. Armie Hammer
3. Teddy Sears
...and maybe this Trevor Donovan guy? Scott Porter isn't bad either but his Ray Liotta mouth kinda throws me off. Chris Pine would be cool too, but I think most of us agree that probably won't happen due to scheduling around his current commitments. And Jensen Ackles? I don't know. I used to be a big supporter, but I've kinda fell away from him due to acting ability. Maybe he's capable of more than what I've seen so far though, so who knows?
The bottomline is that there are plenty of actors that could pull off the role, but finding THE perfect one that embodies all the character's requirements is the real test.
My vote is McPartlin.
I would love for Marvel's unofficial "wist list" to get leaked... that would give us an idea of what they are thinking.
Rage
Triad
10-29-2009, 05:24 PM
^ Amen to that!
Webhead2006
10-29-2009, 10:55 PM
well yea that would be great to see.
louiebling$
10-29-2009, 11:37 PM
I'm sure we will be getting news any minute now............ and the wait continues :(
Timstuff
10-29-2009, 11:48 PM
Marvel is messing with us. I bet they haven't even started on a script yet. They're like a kid who's way behind in their homework who tells their parents "yeah, it's coming along great!" :o
Wolvieboy17
10-29-2009, 11:57 PM
Well Brian Michael Bendis has seen the script.
Webhead2006
10-30-2009, 02:18 AM
umm yea they have a draft in that is liked by the studio and all that. if i recall right. We got to remember joe just officially started full time pre production work this month. Plus filming isnt going to be happening to june/july 2010. So that leaves plently of time for casting/training of casted roles and a costume fitting and all that. Say if casting start up next moth that gives them 7 months before they are scheduled to start production.
marcvader
10-30-2009, 06:27 AM
I thought filming was starting Feb-March.
Silvermoth
10-30-2009, 06:33 AM
I wonder who will play Abraham Erskine. It would be interesting to hear people's thoughts on him.
Steve Holt
10-30-2009, 08:35 AM
I wonder who will play Abraham Erskine. It would be interesting to hear people's thoughts on him.
David Paymer
Good call! I like it Steve Holt (and the handle is pretty cool too)
Rage
Webhead2006
10-30-2009, 02:06 PM
I thought filming was starting Feb-March.
Nope all reports i have seen this past year stated the film would begin filming between june/july time frame of 2010. since the film has a mid summer 2011 release date. Their is no way the film could even start in feb/march. When the director officially didnt start prep work to this month, and casting hasnt even started yet.
tamron
10-30-2009, 06:48 PM
I wonder who will play Abraham Erskine. It would be interesting to hear people's thoughts on him.
Harvey Keitel.
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3801/263117127387abrahamersk.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9730/0801230923381harveykeit.jpg
It'd add a touch of star power to the film, and hopefully make Erskine's death even more impactful.
Spider-Fan83
10-30-2009, 07:20 PM
Dennis Farina (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001199/)??
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8843/image3jl.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/image3jl.jpg/)http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1122/image2ou.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/image2ou.jpg/)
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5020/image4pm.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5505/image1kem.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/image1kem.jpg/)http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3021/p191315n16402cch1aa.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/p191315n16402cch1aa.jpg/)
Brian Braddock
10-31-2009, 07:53 AM
Much as I like Farina, Keitel's an absolute legend and would be great as Erskine (wont in be Reinstein though?).
Thinking a bit out of the box though, I'm thinking that Phillip Baker Hall would be an interesting choice.
Webhead2006
10-31-2009, 12:42 PM
i dont know who that guy is but he does strike simularity to the comics page there too. I believe erskine/reinstein is one and the same, one is just a cover name. I am not sure, i heard of both names before.
Brian Braddock
10-31-2009, 12:46 PM
Yeah, it was the codename. I seem to recall it featuring in the Incredible Hulk - wasnt Reinstein's name on the container in the deep freeze?
That person
10-31-2009, 06:13 PM
Have you ever seen a Captain America comic? Steve Rogers is by no means an unattractive man.
You're right about that much, but I think the standard is a bit too high. With a decent makeup artist, Eastwood could easily meet the threashold.
Spider-Fan83
11-01-2009, 02:57 PM
Much as I like Farina, Keitel's an absolute legend and would be great as Erskine (wont in be Reinstein though?)
actually, I totally agree
I almost didn't even bother to post my idea, after seeing Keitels suggested...
but, you know, I already searched for the comparison pictures, and did all the cutting, pasting, saving, uploading,...ect. blah blah blah
so, I decided to post it, anyway
The Avatar
11-01-2009, 03:59 PM
keitel and star power in the same sentence? lol
Ace of Knaves
11-01-2009, 04:03 PM
Keitel is a well known and well respected actor.
The Avatar
11-01-2009, 04:24 PM
I can't even remember the last time he starred in a movie. You actually have to some star roles in big movies before you have star power.
Ace of Knaves
11-01-2009, 05:21 PM
That's because character actors are very rarely the lead.
He isn't A-List, but anyone who has a clue about movies knows who Keitel is. And if they don't? Then they are stupid, frankly.
WeaponXProject
11-01-2009, 07:34 PM
*sigh* Why do people insist that the actor for Cap be eligible for Sexiest Man Alive? As for his acting skills, I don't think he's done enough for anyone to really judge that. My question had more to do with whether or not he had the "name recognition" so many people are obsessed about
Uh, Captain America is the "all American" man. Lil' Eastwood isn't talented, isn't really breaking out and doesn't show much promise. He's only bit parts in Pop's movies. How he became an idea is bc we've had everyone under the son thats blonde or light brown haired put on here that's ever been in a film over the last 5 years.
Brian Braddock
11-02-2009, 06:14 AM
That's because character actors are very rarely the lead.
He isn't A-List, but anyone who has a clue about movies knows who Keitel is. And if they don't? Then they are stupid, frankly.
Damn straight, Ace;
Keitel's deserving of a place alongside DeNiro and Pacino in my eyes.
Wolvieboy17
11-02-2009, 06:28 AM
Totally. Man, I loved Bad Luitenant. Aren't they doing a sequel to that without Harvey? Shame, Shame shame...
In regards to Erskine or Reinstein, I doubt they'd cast a big name like Harvey, when he probably wouldnt have a big role in the movie anyway... Basically he creates a serum and then gets killed...I can't see them focusing on him too much.
Wolvieboy17
11-02-2009, 06:30 AM
keitel and star power in the same sentence? lol
Hmmmm well he's no Jensen Ackles :P
Nightwing
11-02-2009, 07:56 AM
What do you guys think of someone like Dicaprio as Cap?
Wolvieboy17
11-02-2009, 08:25 AM
What do you guys think of someone like Dicaprio as Cap?
I wouldn't mind as long as it suited a specific vision the director has, ala Iron Man/Batman, and isn't just a shameless attempt to boost publicity for the movie.
Brian Braddock
11-02-2009, 10:39 AM
What do you guys think of someone like Dicaprio as Cap?
I think it'll practically guarantee CGI muscles and the utilisation of a muscle suit.
:hehe:
Wolvieboy17
11-02-2009, 11:47 AM
I think it'll practically guarantee CGI muscles and the utilisation of a muscle suit.
I think overly buff cap would just look silly in a movie verse... He doesn't need to look like a body builder to convey his strength... I think a semi-leaner marines body build would do fine, like a matt damon build, or Tom Jane from the punisher, but with broader shoulders... They can show Cap off more with fighting finesse and strategic skills rather than just a muscle man.
Brian Braddock
11-02-2009, 11:54 AM
I'm not talking big muscles either, I've always advocated Cap has being made of up quality, lean and ripped muscle. This is, I seriously have my doubts that Dicaprio could achieve something even to a Matt Damon 'Bourne' or Thomas Jane 'Punisher' build, let alone something approximating a build that's supposed to be the peak of human physical fitness.
Like I said, CGI for the shirtless scenes and muscle suit for everything else for Dicaprio imo.
Pump all the iron, take all the right supplements and do all the cardio you want, if you havent got the right ingredients in the 1st place, you cant make the correct cake. Leo hasnt got the genetics required imo.
If only Leo had Gigandet DNA running through his veins. You gotta appreciate the irony - if only there was a real life SSS that Dicaprio could take......................
Webhead2006
11-02-2009, 11:57 AM
he should be buff but yea doesnt need to be like a crazy modern day roid user bodybuilder. But he should has a good wide frame, good muscle definition and all that.
jab1118
11-02-2009, 01:20 PM
While I agree that i dont think Leo has exactly the right frame he has never really tried to get crazy ripped for a movie yet in his career either. a few years ago i would have thought the same about Gyllenhaal but have you seen the chest on him for prince of persia? A little juice goes a long way
Ace of Knaves
11-02-2009, 01:54 PM
Yea has DiCaprio ever had to really pack on the pounds for a role before?
Apparently he is a massive fan of Cap, and if he got the gig I'm sure he'd work his ass off to get in shape.
Antonello Blueberry
11-02-2009, 03:39 PM
While I agree that i dont think Leo has exactly the right frame he has never really tried to get crazy ripped for a movie yet in his career either. a few years ago i would have thought the same about Gyllenhaal but have you seen the chest on him for prince of persia? A little juice goes a long way
Gyllenhaal has always been in a good shape. He was when he was mentioned as Tobey replacement for Spider-Man and when he was being considered for Superman and Batman.
http://spectacle.provocateuse.com/images/spectacles/jake_gyllenhaal_08.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/Antoblueberry/Jake-Gyllenhall2.jpg
jaymes_e06
11-02-2009, 03:52 PM
^He looks like The Crow there. He should get the part for the sequel/reboot.
Webhead2006
11-02-2009, 06:10 PM
jake G is in wicked good shape, i wouldnt mind if cap's actor looked like him in persia film.
Webhead2006
11-02-2009, 06:12 PM
jake G is in wicked good shape, i wouldnt mind if cap's actor looked like him in persia film.
Brian Braddock
11-03-2009, 08:07 AM
Ok, maybe I did Dicaprio as bit of a disservice there. I guess if the likes of James Spader get get in the great shape he was in for Supernova - then anyone can do it.
Thing is, it's more than just 'getting into shape'. Jab1118 used the term 'crazy ripped' above, and I happen to think this is an ideal way to describe Cap. Not only is he muscular, but he's quality lean muscle mass with sinewy vascularity.
That's damn hard to acheive. Only those with the right genetics in the 1st place are likely to achieve it.
I guess it's a trade off - do we go for an A list actor like Leo who would undoubtedly bring in the crowds, act the role out of the park while looking passable as a product of the Super Soldier Serum or do we go with an unknown/relative unknown who may well be able to act the role almost/just as good as well as looking a whole lot more 'jakked', but will` definately not have the box-office pulling power?
Son of Coul
11-03-2009, 09:10 AM
To be honest, doesn't matter who we choose. Marvel Studios has been picking perfect people out of left field that are better than our choices, unlike other studios who WOULD pick a mainstream (un)popular actor who's completely out of place like say, Nicholas Cage as Ghost Rider or Jessica Alba as Invisible Woman.
Still, it's fun to pick.
Brian Braddock
11-03-2009, 09:32 AM
I hope you're right, dude.
I guess what I'm saying is that I hope they find a guy who not only fits the bill acting wise, but also has the features and body too.
Someone with a muscular, yet lean and vascular look like Gary Daniels below (sigh - If only Gary was American and could act to the standard required):-
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/tekken02.jpg
I think the closest we've had suggested to that so far is Cam Gigandet.
Antonello Blueberry
11-03-2009, 09:53 AM
Btw, does anyone have the Hardcase video starring Gary Daniels?
Brian Braddock
11-03-2009, 10:03 AM
The old Malibu comics short? Man, I've wanted to see that for years.
Webhead2006
11-03-2009, 11:38 AM
yea cap doesnt need to be a super doped up jacked guy. He should have good muscle mass and size sure. But not crazy big.
Nightwing
11-03-2009, 01:01 PM
Exactly, he just needs to have a good build and look like a true super soldier. Specially for actions sequences. I'm pretty Leo can bulk up for the role, any actor can with the right diet and exercise routines. Jake in Prince of Persia is a good example of that.
Young Superman
11-03-2009, 01:06 PM
Teddy Sears for Captain America
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Skoh-lE8sO0/SLSLiATNCRI/AAAAAAAAJ5U/R47SFxcMTB4/s400/RTB_PK_18_Teddy+Sears+PH+Kyle+Christy.jpghttp://finickypenguin.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/captain-america.jpg
Nightwing
11-03-2009, 01:19 PM
He's from Raising The Bar right?
Young Superman
11-03-2009, 01:21 PM
yeah
Brian Braddock
11-03-2009, 02:24 PM
Y'know, I'm watching Inglorious Basterds and thinking that it's a bit of a shame Til Schweiger isnt American.
Still, since he is German and all, maybe there a role for him in Cap yet.
Ace of Knaves
11-03-2009, 02:46 PM
How ist thou watching Inglorious Basterds?!?! All the torrents I've seen of it are crap.
Brian Braddock
11-03-2009, 04:01 PM
Davidmovies.
Picture quality's not great but it's passable.
Compi716
11-03-2009, 04:42 PM
I could see them getting Gyllenhaal, or someone like him, to play Cap. Gyllenhaal is a name, attracts enough audience (or so it's believed), and he's a fine actor. Now, I'm not saying he's my choice - honestly, I've yet to find anyone who just screams "Cap!" in the same way that Bale did when he was brought up as a Batman suggestion back in 2003/2004 - but I could maybe see it working.
Webhead2006
11-03-2009, 04:54 PM
well we have no clue how casting is going to go yet.
Brian Braddock
11-03-2009, 05:00 PM
Loz, we really dont, do we? http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon11.gif
Son of Coul
11-03-2009, 05:48 PM
I voted Chris Pine. Yeah, he's Kirk now, but he'd make a great Cap if he bulks the **** up. He showed he could be a good leader as Captain Kirk, even to his seniors. I don't know if he's American, but he's certainly got that half-pretty boy/half-rugged All American Captain America look and I could totally see him stepping ahead of the other cast members, glancing back at them, then looking his threat in the eye and yelling "Avengers Assemble!"
afrayedknot
11-03-2009, 11:45 PM
yea cap doesnt need to be a super doped up jacked guy. He should have good muscle mass and size sure. But not crazy big.
Wasn't Tim Roth's character in "The Incredible Hulk," Emil Blonsky, injected with the Super Soldier Serum? He didn't look very big or well-defined to me.
And, just how often do we expect to see Steve Rogers without his shirt on, anyway?
WillardNation
11-03-2009, 11:58 PM
Wasn't Tim Roth's character in "The Incredible Hulk," Emil Blonsky, injected with the Super Soldier Serum? He didn't look very big or well-defined to me.
And, just how often do we expect to see Steve Rogers without his shirt on, anyway?
that was a different serum
afrayedknot
11-04-2009, 12:09 AM
that was a different serum
So, the serum given to Emil Blonsky made him a super soldier, but just didn't give him bulk or definition?
louiebling$
11-04-2009, 12:32 AM
It wasn't the FULL SS.... just a small dose.
irapogi
11-04-2009, 12:59 AM
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/scott-porter.jpg
i still vote SCOTT PORTER
anyways, since's cap's a few months after thor (i looked at the new sked)
when do you think we should start expecting announcements? or is thor just too soon. i'd assume they'd start pre prod as early as q1 next year, so shouldn't we get news soon? what do you all think?
louiebling$
11-04-2009, 01:15 AM
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/scott-porter.jpg
i still vote SCOTT PORTER
anyways, since's cap's a few months after thor (i looked at the new sked)
when do you think we should start expecting announcements? or is thor just too soon. i'd assume they'd start pre prod as early as q1 next year, so shouldn't we get news soon? what do you all think?
He's still my Number one aswell :up:
That's a GREAT Pic I haven't seen it thanks for posting it
Young Superman
11-04-2009, 04:22 AM
Scott Porter's The Flash not Cap.
Steve Holt
11-04-2009, 07:53 AM
teddy sears for captain america
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_skoh-le8so0/slsliatncri/aaaaaaaaj5u/r47sfxcmtb4/s400/rtb_pk_18_teddy+sears+ph+kyle+christy.jpghttp://finickypenguin.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/captain-america.jpg
win!!!!
Brian Braddock
11-04-2009, 07:55 AM
Wasn't Tim Roth's character in "The Incredible Hulk," Emil Blonsky, injected with the Super Soldier Serum? He didn't look very big or well-defined to me.
The SSS given to Blonsky, although it was only a small dose (as Ross states in the movie) did give him a bit of added mass and definition. It's obvious for all to see when they watch the movie that CG was applied to Roth's body to make it look as if he was slightly bigger and more cut.
And, just how often do we expect to see Steve Rogers without his shirt on, anyway?
Well, given they're probably going to want to show the physical difference between Steve pre SSS and post SSS Steve, as seen in the origin:-
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/CaptainAmerica1-customsize_500400.jpg
I'd say we can at least expect 1 occasion.
Young Superman
11-04-2009, 10:47 AM
Agreed.
Ace of Knaves
11-04-2009, 10:49 AM
Yea you can definitely see Blonksy get more cut in TIH. I watched it last night.
Brian Braddock
11-04-2009, 10:56 AM
Funnilly enough though, I actually dont think the definition CG fx they used was that great - it just kinda looked like they used digital airbrushing.
I'd definately hope for something better with Cap; I guess there are a couple of ways to go, depending on the actor cast:-
Buff actor = CG required for pre-SSS Steve only
Not so buff actor = CG required for pre-SSS Steve and CG for post SSS Steve (body shot)
Webhead2006
11-04-2009, 11:59 AM
i would go with buff actor, and then either have just a few scenes of him pre sss and either the actor who is picked his head it put on a stunt body or we only see his face and then other times stunt body showing how skinny/frail he was. like what happened in spider-man 1 after peter was bite by the spider and he took his cloths off in his room we had a skinny body and then poof he was all buff.
As for casting since the film isnt going to go into production to about june, and joe just getting into full on prep work since last month. i bet casting will be between dec-march/april then there will probably still be a few spots not assigned to just before filming starts or even after filming has started.
Spider-Fan83
11-04-2009, 12:22 PM
just get, David Gallagher, for young, skinny, Steve
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/64/davidgallagherhot.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/i/davidgallagherhot.jpg/)
Brian Braddock
11-04-2009, 12:31 PM
DJ Qualls.
:D
Spider-Fan83
11-04-2009, 12:54 PM
DJ's certainly skinnier, but, I was thinking more in terms of fitting the look, facially,(but, stilling small enough) so, that CGing, or make up,…, isn't as necessary, David could pretty easily pass as a younger skinnier version of most of the names that have been suggested
jab1118
11-04-2009, 12:56 PM
I got a feeling that they are not gonna spend to much time on pre serum steve probably just kind of a montage and an explanation of the whole he was rejected story. This movie has a lot to cover if its gonna end with steve being frozen.
louiebling$
11-04-2009, 01:53 PM
Scott Porter's The Flash not Cap.
Id prefer him for Cap :o
Gamma Goliath
11-04-2009, 08:59 PM
can he act?
Compi716
11-04-2009, 09:37 PM
If Mark Valley were younger, he'd be pretty good. I saw a commercial for Human Target, and I could see him as a seasoned Steve Rogers.
louiebling$
11-04-2009, 11:26 PM
can he act?
Yea he can
If Mark Valley were younger, he'd be pretty good. I saw a commercial for Human Target, and I could see him as a seasoned Steve Rogers. Yes he is the perfect cap his only flaw is his age :(
Artistsean
11-05-2009, 02:26 AM
Mark Waid said he has written Captain America for a while and that Jon Hamm should play Captain America, and that anyone who thought otherwise had rocks for brains.
Spider-Fan83
11-05-2009, 04:31 AM
I think its kinda funny that he's always mentioned for all these superhero roles, now
(not that I think its a bad idea)
I remember alil before, mad men, came out, I suggested him for a role, an everyone just mocked and bash on the idea, so, badly, calling him too old, too short,....
then like a year later, everyone loves the guy, and wants him for ever role out there
Keyser Soze
11-05-2009, 06:29 AM
Jon Hamm is great, and I wanted him for Green Lantern, but he's pushing 40 now, so I don't see him playing Captain America.
In terms of younger actors, I still think they should prioritise talent over looks. A talented actor can be made to look the part. But a guy who looks the part can't necessarily be made into an actor capable of a convincing performance. I quite like the idea of Ryan Gosling, who is a nice balance of being VERY talented and not miles and miles away from looking the part. But he's Canadian, which might work against him here.
Young Superman
11-05-2009, 09:36 AM
Teddy Sears for captain america (http://forums.superherohype.com/#),
Check out how much he looks like Steve.
http://l.yimg.com/l/tv/us/img/site/05/41/0000050541_20080801101206.jpg?y=626&sig=EL3wVJVtxQbo0NdKEoan4w--http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/2/2f/Marvels_Project_Vol_1_5_McNiven_Variant.jpg
Nightwing
11-05-2009, 11:56 AM
^ I don't know about Sears, but that is one great pic of Cap. :up:
damfino
11-05-2009, 01:19 PM
It's so weird how difficult it is to name a young, buff, blonde American who can act. They'll probably cast someone older, if only because I can't think of any big names under 30 who would fit. The ones mentioned so far seem like real long shots, or I just don't like. :oldrazz:
Garrett Hedlund is a decent suggestion, but to me his face is just a shade too goofy. But, just to try someone new, does anyone have any thoughts on his Friday Night Lights co-star Lucas Black? He's not quite right - his Southern accent, just to start - but if they do go younger, I think he could be a good example to go off of. He's an established but not yet famous actor who's already held his own with big names, and even though he's wiry in this pic, I can picture him bulking up.
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3581/legionposter04.jpg
Or is Under-30 just too young?
In the shade-over-30 category, I'm huge fans of both Scott Porter and Jensen Ackles and it would be awesome if either of them got it. But honestly, I can't picture them in the role. (But they're both unknowns, so if they were cast, that means they auditioned and were convincing enough, which hey, sweet.)
Brian Braddock
11-05-2009, 01:42 PM
Isnt he the dude from Tokyo Drift?
damfino
11-05-2009, 02:19 PM
Isnt he the dude from Tokyo Drift?
LOL, yeah. I didn't see it though, so...was he horrible in it? He was a respectable child actor at least, and I really liked him in Friday Night Lights. He was also in Jarhead, another one I didn't see, which may or may not give him more credibility. Like I said, I don't know if he'd work, but I think someone similar to him could. Maybe.
I don't know, the whole age thing is throwing me off. Even Chris Pine, who proved you can be young and a leader, still doesn't fit with how I picture Cap.
Brian2887
11-05-2009, 05:42 PM
Steve Rogers / Captain America - Scott Porter (Friday Night Lights, Speed Racer, Prom Night)
http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/scott-porter-photo.jpg
Bucky Barnes - Scott Mechlowicz (Eurotrip, Mean Creek, Peaceful Warrior)
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/lions_gate_films/peaceful_warrior/_group_photos/nick_nolte5.jpg
Gail Richards - Alison Lohman (Drag Me To Hell, Big Fish, Matchstick Men)
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/thinkfilm/where_the_truth_lies/alison_lohman/truthlies3.jpg
Dr. Erksine - Harvey Keitel (Reservoir Dogs, Taxi Driver, Bad Lieutenant)
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_yorker_films/taking_sides/harvey_keitel/sides.jpg
Red Skull - Til Schweiger (Inglourious Basterds, Tomb Raider, Far Cry)
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/the_bourne_identity/til_schweiger/bournepre.jpg
Cross Bones - Nathan Jones (Troy, The Condemned, The Protector)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/213/509851510_f07fbe49ce.jpg
Webhead2006
11-05-2009, 05:55 PM
nice choices there.
louiebling$
11-05-2009, 08:25 PM
That cast would be Fantastic :up:
I love every choice cept Bucky... I can see it but somethings not right... great over all though :applaud
DocHoliday
11-05-2009, 08:55 PM
LOL, yeah. I didn't see it though, so...was he horrible in it? He was a respectable child actor at least, and I really liked him in Friday Night Lights. He was also in Jarhead, another one I didn't see, which may or may not give him more credibility. Like I said, I don't know if he'd work, but I think someone similar to him could. Maybe.
I don't know, the whole age thing is throwing me off. Even Chris Pine, who proved you can be young and a leader, still doesn't fit with how I picture Cap.
He wasn't good lol. Nut to be fair other than the dude who played Han no one was. Although I must say, that it has the best cars/stunt work.
hugekent
11-06-2009, 01:46 AM
I would be very happy with Brian2887's casting choices, except for Alison Lohman. I just don't think she's very attractive.
Silvermoth
11-06-2009, 06:46 AM
cool list Brian2887. Mine looks a little like this...
Steve Rogers- Cam Gigandet (Pandorum, Never back down)
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4352/comicconunborn8.jpg
James Barnes- Joseph Gordon Levitt (Brick, 500 days of Summer)
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2192/josephgordonlevitt20201.jpg
The Red Skull- Robert Carlyle (Trainspotting, 28 weeks later)
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4471/renardbyrobertcarlyle.jpg
Gail Richards- I'm okay with Alison Lohman
Abraham Erskine- Terry O'Quinn (Lost, The West Wing)
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/121/164481635small.jpg
and I would love Bruno Ganz (Downfall) to reprise his role as Hitler. I would also love to see FRD and Eleanor (as well as Churchill) but I can't think of a good choice for them
Lucas Black is too short to play Cap and Cam Gidget just doesn't exude the Cap Vibe. I do like Scott Porter and Garret Hedlund though.
Gamma Goliath
11-06-2009, 05:51 PM
i like j.g. levitt as bucky
Triad
11-06-2009, 08:29 PM
Wasn't he in G.I. Joe? I just got through watching it finally. Now I can officially say that Channing Tatum had better stay as far away from Cap as possible! Holy crap he was horrible! Sienna Miller was smokin' though!
Project862006
11-06-2009, 08:44 PM
i have come to the realization tatum should only play bad guys or bad good guy his best role was GTRYS
Octoberist
11-06-2009, 10:49 PM
Wasn't he in G.I. Joe? I just got through watching it finally. Now I can officially say that Channing Tatum had better stay as far away from Cap as possible! Holy crap he was horrible! Sienna Miller was smokin' though!
Please watch Brick and 500 Days of Summer for more of Levitt's skills.
Steve Holt
11-07-2009, 10:31 AM
Just watched more Raising The Bar, Teddy Sears IS Steve Rogers!!!!
Young Superman
11-07-2009, 11:31 AM
Agreed
jab1118
11-07-2009, 12:25 PM
No way could i see cam gigandet as Cap first I think he sucks as an actor second he is much better suited to play bad guys something about him just makes you dislike him. Even that picture of him makes we want to punch him in the face
Gamma Goliath
11-07-2009, 12:32 PM
Please watch Brick and 500 Days of Summer for more of Levitt's skills.
I actually like him in gi joe. He played evil pretty well.
I didn't even realize it was him.
Triad
11-07-2009, 01:48 PM
Hmmm...do you think it could be because of the big mechanical facemask with monocle? :cwink:
Timstuff
11-07-2009, 03:43 PM
Don't you think that Levitt is going to eventually start getting tired of playing the main main character's buddy soldier?
daderade
11-07-2009, 05:52 PM
lol i still have a bad feeling that its going to be Channing Tatum...LOL mark my words!!!(ok dont, i hope its not true)
Project862006
11-07-2009, 07:25 PM
he is better suited to play a bad guy imo
Triad
11-07-2009, 09:57 PM
He is best suited to play a corpse, imo! Sorry.
tamron
11-07-2009, 10:50 PM
Just some ideas for the cast. I currently have no one in mind for Bucky. Feige hinted at the inclusion of The Invaders back in July, so I included them as well.
Steve Rogers/Captain America - Garrett Hedlund
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3549/garretthedlund.jpg
Franklin Roosevelt - David Strathairn
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/969/fdrz.jpg http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4351/strathairn13777400.jpg
Adolf Hitler - David Bamber
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6626/davidbamberhitlervalkyr.gif
Gail Richards - Lizzy Caplan/Vanessa Redgrave
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1696/lizzycaplan305x397.jpg http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2062/vanessaredgrave.jpg
Namor - Jonathan Rhys-Meyers
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3281/jonathanrhysmeyers35723.jpg
Red Skull - Luke Goss
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5222/lukegoss.jpg
Union Jack - Jason Statham
Dr. Abraham Erskine - Harvey Keitel
Jim Hammond/The Human Torch - Alexander Skarsgard
Silvermoth
11-07-2009, 10:59 PM
Love that idea for FDR :up:
Young Superman
11-07-2009, 11:19 PM
Agreed, that's a great pick for FDR.
Gamma Goliath
11-07-2009, 11:33 PM
lol i still have a bad feeling that its going to be Channing Tatum...LOL mark my words!!!(ok dont, i hope its not true)
Yeah I have a pretty good feeling he won't be cap. I do believe marvel studios are smarter than that.
They're probably going to pick a young guy with charisma, acting ABILITY, and longevity.
I like chris pine, his acting and charisma has escalated to the point where he can "hang" with downy jr., norton and sam l. jackson.
Ace of Knaves
11-08-2009, 05:03 AM
Channing Tatum proved to me he can be a good actor in Guide to Recognizing your Saints. Let's be fair, that's the ONLY film he has ever done that was actually a proper role. And I thought he was one of the best things about the film.
Now I'm not saying Tatum for Cap, but I think if he keeps getting meaty roles that ain't just stupid action roles, I think we'll see him progress as an actor.
Timstuff
11-08-2009, 06:26 AM
I dunno... To me, he comes across as a male version of Megan Fox. Maybe he did put out a decent perfomance in that one movie you mentioned, but from what I've seen his acting was like cardboard.
BTW, I think Chris Pine would make a good Lex Luthor. :p
tamron
11-08-2009, 11:21 AM
Bucky - Logan Lerman
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4046/loganlerman.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img4/4046/loganlerman.jpg
Triad
11-08-2009, 11:32 AM
Chris O'Donnell would be a good Bucky IMO. I know that he's a little older, but you have to admit that he still looks in his mid to late 20's. Just as long as they go the route of Bucky being a regular G.I. and not Cap's younger side-kick. (After already playing Robin, one side-kick role is probably enough!) I actually really would have liked him to play Cap but I believe that his height (5'10") would have been an issue.
Ace of Knaves
11-08-2009, 11:32 AM
I dunno... To me, he comes across as a male version of Megan Fox. Maybe he did put out a decent perfomance in that one movie you mentioned, but from what I've seen his acting was like cardboard.
BTW, I think Chris Pine would make a good Lex Luthor. :p
From what you've seen of Guide to Recognizing Your Saints? Or his other movies?
Coz cardboard is no way to describe his performance in GRYS.
But if you are talking about his other roles then yea, you're right. But what do those roles require in terms of actual acting ability? Nothing.
Triad
11-08-2009, 11:44 AM
I gotta admit that I haven't seen much of his work, but what I have tends to make me agree with Timstuff. His performance has been very slow & wooden. When he is to express emotion, it wasn't believable to me and it always seems that he was reciting his lines rather than actually speaking. Also, I hate that he always has that urban hood-ish speech pattern. Does he think that makes him seem to be more of a hard-a**?
I will take your recommendation to see Guide to Recognizing Your Saints and give him a fair evaluation though. Just as it stands right now, I would NOT want to see him in the Captain America role.
Wolvieboy17
11-08-2009, 11:49 AM
That might have been the role and writing more than Tatums talent... Considering we've seen him play a marine or army dude in G.I. Joe, and we know how bad he was as that, I don't think cap would be much different.... Also, Marvel ain't gonna hire him after the flop that was G.I. Joe... I think its a safe bet he won't be chosen.
Webhead2006
11-08-2009, 11:54 AM
yea no why he would be picked, look at what they been pulling for the other marvel studios films. There is tons of much better guys then him out there.
Brian Braddock
11-08-2009, 12:00 PM
Yeah, Marvel are showing that they're putting real thought into their casting; often pulling off real casting coups in the process resulting in some real quality actors filling out roles.
Timstuff
11-08-2009, 12:32 PM
From what you've seen of Guide to Recognizing Your Saints? Or his other movies?
I haven't seen GRYS. I was referring to Step Up and GI Joe.
I Am Jack's...
11-08-2009, 04:43 PM
Well, I saw other users post their cast for a Cap movie, so I thought I'd post mine :yay:
Jensen Ackles as Captain America
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/12037/ackles%20cap%202.jpg
Jamie Bell as Bucky Barnes
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/12037/barnes%20bell.jpg
Mads Mikkelsen as Red Skull
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/12037/mikkelsen%20red%20skull.jpg
Ralph Fiennes as Baron Zemo
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/12037/baron%20zemo%20fiennes.jpg
daderade
11-08-2009, 06:12 PM
I think it will probably be someone nobody has guessed. Maybe Fred Savage lol. But seriously i think they should find someone between the ages of Hemsworth and Downey, otherwise Downey is going to feel like a very old man in a cast of kids(not kids....same age as me lol)
Triad
11-08-2009, 06:58 PM
Good list, "I Am Jack's..."
I'm not totally on board for Ackles yet, but I wouldn't hate it if he really can pull it off. He looks & sounds the part, but I'm not yet convinced of his acting ability. Also I'm not familiar with Jamie Bell, but he looks kinda Bucky-ish. It's your villains that I'm so freakin' hyped about! I've long said that Mikkelsen is THE PERFECT fit for the Red Skull & Fiennes would be great as Zemo! Inspired!
Triad
11-08-2009, 06:59 PM
EDIT: Double post.
Webhead2006
11-08-2009, 11:09 PM
not a bad list there.
hugekent
11-09-2009, 01:57 AM
Channing Tatum was dreadful in that movie about dancing. Cringeworthy acting.
Brian Braddock
11-09-2009, 06:36 AM
Seems to me cringeworthy acting and dance movies pretty much go hand in hand.
DocHoliday
11-09-2009, 10:34 AM
Yeah, I'd have to say no to Tatum. I still would at least try to get Matt Damon. Chris Pine would be very good as well.
Triad
11-09-2009, 11:01 AM
seems to me cringeworthy acting and dance movies pretty much go hand in hand.
Amen to that!
Blackman
11-09-2009, 11:16 AM
Well, I saw other users post their cast for a Cap movie, so I thought I'd post mine :yay:
Jensen Ackles as Captain America
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/12037/ackles%20cap%202.jpg
Jamie Bell as Bucky Barnes
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/12037/barnes%20bell.jpg
Mads Mikkelsen as Red Skull
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/12037/mikkelsen%20red%20skull.jpg
Ralph Fiennes as Baron Zemo
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/12037/baron%20zemo%20fiennes.jpg
:doh:dammit why couldnt Ackles be Hal Jordan:cmad:
I wouldnt mind at all if he gets cast as Cap. I just want to see him have a successful film career after Supernatural ends. Also he definitely has the ability to play Steve well. Good casting overall.
On Tatum: Tatum actually isnt a bad actor. I mean he was decent in Coach Carter, A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints, and Stop Loss. Hes just one of those actors with ability to stars in really crappy movies like Josh Hartnett and Kate Beckinsale.
That being said I think his "mush" mouth wouldnt be good for Cap. Thats why I even changed my top choice from Chris Pine.
My top choice now is Ben McKenzie
http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/Fannboi/Marvel/BenMcKenzieAlbertoERodriguezGetty.jpg
Webhead2006
11-09-2009, 12:39 PM
i really doubt marvel would even look at tatum for cap. When they can get much better quality actors.
louiebling$
11-09-2009, 01:04 PM
I would definitly be on board with Ben :up:
Ben MacKenzie is a decent enough actor... but to small to play Captain America...
And I don't get all this love for Chris Pine... prior to Star Trek the guy had a co-starring role in a Hilary Duff movie and a bit part in Smokin' Aces (that I can remember) Sure he did good in Star Trek... but to suggest that he could hold his own or be on par with Norton/Downey/Jackson/Cheatle is kinda getting ahead of ourselves.
I still think that Marvel is going to shoot for the stars and try to get Leo.
Nightwing
11-09-2009, 01:27 PM
Ben MacKenzie is a decent enough actor... but to small to play Captain America...
And I don't get all this love for Chris Pine... prior to Star Trek the guy had a co-starring role in a Hilary Duff movie and a bit part in Smokin' Aces (that I can remember) Sure he did good in Star Trek... but to suggest that he could hold his own or be on par with Norton/Downey/Jackson/Cheatle is kinda getting ahead of ourselves.
I still think that Marvel is going to shoot for the stars and try to get Leo.
Agree with both of these.
Blackman
11-09-2009, 01:39 PM
Ben MacKenzie is a decent enough actor... but to small to play Captain America...
And I don't get all this love for Chris Pine... prior to Star Trek the guy had a co-starring role in a Hilary Duff movie and a bit part in Smokin' Aces (that I can remember) Sure he did good in Star Trek... but to suggest that he could hold his own or be on par with Norton/Downey/Jackson/Cheatle is kinda getting ahead of ourselves.
I still think that Marvel is going to shoot for the stars and try to get Leo.
If you mean McKenzie is too short. Hes the same height as RDJ and worst comes to worst he could wear lifts like RDJ, Daniel Craig, and even Brad Pitt have worn in movies. Cap isnt one of those roles that you need a naturally tall guy like Thor or Superman
And about having a guy who can hold his own with big name actors look at Chris Hemsworth. Never put in a big budget film for more than 10 mins until upcoming Thor. I know it hasnt come out yet but the fact that hes even being put in a movie directed by 4 time Oscar nominee, costarring with one of the best young actress in Hollywood: Natalie Portman along Hannibal freaking Lecter says alot. I mean his resume is even smaller than Pine's, McKenzie's or even Tatum's
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