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Double Down
08-04-2009, 12:10 PM
Due to the closure of the old one, we need a new one.
So, who should play Cap?
Compi716
08-04-2009, 12:16 PM
I can't think of anybody who makes me scream "YEAH!" like Bale as Batman. Cap is such a tricky subject, and the casting needs to be perfect. Some of the names thrown around (DiCaprio, Damon, Ackles, even Armie Hammer) have their positives, but they also have their negatives.
I honestly haven't seen a single [American] suggestion that truly grabbed me.
Double Down
08-04-2009, 12:18 PM
I can't think of anybody who makes me scream "YEAH!" like Bale as Batman. Cap is such a tricky subject, and the casting needs to be perfect. Some of the names thrown around (DiCaprio, Damon, Ackles, even Armie Hammer) have their positives, but they also have their negatives.
I honestly haven't seen a single [American] suggestion that truly grabbed me.
Same here. I have seen some "maybes," but there isn't one guy that I think is perfect so far.
Triad
08-04-2009, 12:43 PM
Well since we are starting fresh, I'll let my sig tell you my personal choices. There are others that would be great for the role, but Ackles is my top pick. Let's hope Marvel snags him right before he releases a movie that explodes internationally. That would be cool! (Does he have anything in production currently?)
That might be what they are thinking if they are eyeing Channing Tatum (which I hope not) considering G.I. Joe is about to be released.
WillardNation
08-04-2009, 12:54 PM
Out of everybody that's been mentioned, I really honestly think Chris Pine would be the best pick.
Eddie Dean
08-04-2009, 01:21 PM
I like Eric Dane, but he seems a little older than what Marvel is looking for. Garrett Hedlund seems like a decent choice too.
Triad
08-04-2009, 01:39 PM
What? No poll?
Double Down
08-04-2009, 01:45 PM
I can do that.
Who should be in the poll?
WillardNation
08-04-2009, 01:50 PM
Will Smith, Ben Ryan and John Cena. No one else. :grin:
Double Down
08-04-2009, 01:51 PM
No Abe Vigoda?
WillardNation
08-04-2009, 01:52 PM
oh yeah, of course.
louiebling$
08-04-2009, 02:03 PM
This new thread needs something...... hmmm.... what is it?
O yea.... Scott Motha****** Porter :o
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i266/Chiprocks1/fri-scottport.jpg
Project862006
08-04-2009, 02:29 PM
should add Armie Hammer
WeaponXProject
08-04-2009, 02:30 PM
Pitt
Damon
Leo
Pine
Ackles
Porter
Duhamel
Tatum
I'm think Ackles will destroy the poll this time.
Webhead2006
08-04-2009, 02:47 PM
well we got to remember right now they only want american born actors for the role, well at least for first rounds of casting calls. So ya i am not sure who i would like to play cap, but i am sure their is someone out their with the right look, and right talent to play the role. It could easily be someone we dont even know about or someone whos name wasnt thought of.
Brian Braddock
08-04-2009, 02:50 PM
Well, going off what I said in the last thread before it got closed, I think that McConuaghey sould be on the poll if only that he fits the criteria (blonde, athletic, household name etc) even if he's not that popular.
WeaponXProject
08-04-2009, 02:59 PM
Well, going off what I said in the last thread before it got closed, I think that McConuaghey sould be on the poll if only that he fits the criteria (blonde, athletic, household name etc) even if he's not that popular.
I agree, he really should be.
He's not a popular fan pick but he would be popular with General Audience for sure.
Double Down
08-04-2009, 03:04 PM
Pitt
Damon
Leo
Pine
Ackles
Porter
Duhamel
McConaughey
Tatum
Hammer
Is that the list? Anyone want any additions or subtractions?
louiebling$
08-04-2009, 03:13 PM
Ryan Mcpartlin
Garret Hudland?
louiebling$
08-04-2009, 03:16 PM
Ryan Philippe?
Colossal Spoons
08-04-2009, 03:31 PM
How about Ryan Reynolds?
catintheengine
08-04-2009, 04:37 PM
Jensen Ackles (I've been saying it for months with my friends, and I had no idea he had become such a big name in the race), or if you want a slightly older Captain America, go with Neal McDonough.
Though Eric Dane is certainly an interesting suggestion that I wouldn't mind.
WeaponXProject
08-04-2009, 04:40 PM
How about Ryan Reynolds?
LOLZ!
Maybe a few others Double Down but that's good enough for me. Maybe Hedlund, too.
Brian Braddock
08-04-2009, 04:44 PM
heh, yeah, I laughed at the RR shout too; very witty Spoons. :D
Of course, even if the suggestion was serious - he is Canadian.
cerealkiller182
08-04-2009, 07:16 PM
There has not been a WOW choice yet. Of course I know I definitely dont want Jensen Ackles or Scott Porter, they are simply not that good.
Philip Winchester is my favorite choice thus far. Garrett Hudlund's a little rough around the edges but I at least find him passable.
I wish people would stop with the 20-something losers though. I dont think any of the 20-something actors have the talent and/or charisma to perform as an innocently wide-eyed but war-experienced hero
louiebling$
08-04-2009, 08:00 PM
There has not been a WOW choice yet. Of course I know I definitely dont want Jensen Ackles or Scott Porter, they are simply not that good.
Philip Winchester is my favorite choice thus far. Garrett Hudlund's a little rough around the edges but I at least find him passable.
I wish people would stop with the 20-something losers though. I dont think any of the 20-something actors have the talent and/or charisma to perform as an innocently wide-eyed but war-experienced hero
And that all in YOUR opinion many of us think otherwise :cwink:
cerealkiller182
08-04-2009, 08:05 PM
Why do people feel the need to constantly point out "opinions" as if the readers and the writer didnt already know.
WTF happened to "I disagree." Its polite, straightforward, and has zero chance of sounding pretentious. And now theres no possible chance for discussion (on a discussion board of all places) because my pinion was written off not argued.
tamron
08-04-2009, 09:38 PM
Pitt
Damon
Leo
Pine
Ackles
Porter
Duhamel
McConaughey
Tatum
Hammer
Is that the list? Anyone want any additions or subtractions?
I'd add Garrett Hedlund, Gabriel Macht, Ryan McPartlin, Philip Winchester.
We could really do without McConaughey or Tatum, no one seriously wants them (especially Tatum) as Cap, do they?
Hedlund is my #1.
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3549/garretthedlund.jpghttp://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f304/STABaller/Captain_America.jpg
He needs to bulk up a bit, and he lacks the worldwide name recognition Feige appears to desire. But he has the major requirements for Cap: the look, the height (6'1'") and the voice, he's the right age (24), and he can act.
Double Down
08-04-2009, 10:27 PM
Any other suggestions -- pro or con? I will put the poll up tomorrow.
Should there be a certain number of actors?
Betty Ross
08-04-2009, 10:56 PM
Any other suggestions -- pro or con? I will put the poll up tomorrow.
I'm big on Patrick Wilson, and he has a few (probably very few) supporters here. I'd like to see him in the poll.
Colossal Spoons
08-04-2009, 11:03 PM
LOLZ!
Maybe a few others Double Down but that's good enough for me. Maybe Hedlund, too.
heh, yeah, I laughed at the RR shout too; very witty Spoons. :D
Of course, even if the suggestion was serious - he is Canadian.
He's everybody else in the Marvel Movieverse. Might as well start the RR clone-saga :(
Webhead2006
08-04-2009, 11:36 PM
Ya i def dont want to see tatum i have nothing againt the guy i think their is alot better options out their then him. As for age range yea i dont really want a 18-23 yr old playing the character the actor should be mid/late 20s possibly early 30s so 24-33 range is what i would say.
louiebling$
08-05-2009, 12:28 AM
Why do people feel the need to constantly point out "opinions" as if the readers and the writer didnt already know.
WTF happened to "I disagree." Its polite, straightforward, and has zero chance of sounding pretentious. And now theres no possible chance for discussion (on a discussion board of all places) because my pinion was written off not argued.
Oooookkkkkk?
I Disagree :huh:
tallsy_1
08-05-2009, 01:04 AM
I can't think of anybody who makes me scream "YEAH!" like Bale as Batman. Cap is such a tricky subject, and the casting needs to be perfect. Some of the names thrown around (DiCaprio, Damon, Ackles, even Armie Hammer) have their positives, but they also have their negatives.
I honestly haven't seen a single [American] suggestion that truly grabbed me.
I feel the exact opposite. I came into this feeling very unsure that they could find the right person. But now am much more confident, and would be quite happy with most of the names that have been discussed.
I certainly haven't heard any non-American suggestions that have been any better.
Superhero 101
08-05-2009, 01:31 AM
I just hope we get a Solid Actor who can nail the look and can act good
Wally West
08-05-2009, 01:50 AM
Out of everybody that's been mentioned, I really honestly think Chris Pine would be the best pick.
It would be interesting to see both Captain Kirks fighting together in Avengers lol. Seriously though I think Pine would be a great choice.
Speaking of Thor's casting, isn't CA coming out a few months after Thor? It's been awhile since they cast Thor, shouldn't we be hearing something about CA soon?
Bunker
08-05-2009, 01:55 AM
Jeremy Renner dammit.
Gamma Goliath
08-05-2009, 02:01 AM
http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/scott-reeves-flags-of-our-fathers-us-premiere-arrivals-0RxryR.jpg
Scott Reeves, Clint Eastwoods son, from flags of our fathers.
I think he has the look and the natural build, and obviously he's in flags of our fathers, so not a bad choice, plus he's Clint freaking Eastwoods son.
WillardNation
08-05-2009, 02:14 AM
It would be interesting to see both Captain Kirks fighting together in Avengers lol. Seriously though I think Pine would be a great choice.
Speaking of Thor's casting, isn't CA coming out a few months after Thor? It's been awhile since they cast Thor, shouldn't we be hearing something about CA soon?
I believe Feige said he'd be surprised if anything was announced before October.
and yeah, Pine FTW.
chris moore
08-05-2009, 05:03 AM
Ackles
Eric Dane
Armie Hammer
I'd be happy with any
Triad
08-05-2009, 05:04 AM
Definitely need to include McPartlin in the list, but I think that it goes without saying that Ackles is my first choice. I don't want to sound like a broken record, but I think that he has all of the criteria for the role, regardless of what the naysayers say. I can get behind many candidates such as Pine, but overall I'm hoping that Marvel gives him a shot first and foremost. Bottom line is that I'll support whoever they cast because my love of the character, but he is who I'm pulling for. I just have to brace myself for the inevitable letdown if he isn't cast....Afterall, I've been let down many times before when I rallied behind an actor for a role this early in the planning stages.
Keyser Soze
08-05-2009, 07:23 AM
There has not been a WOW choice yet. Of course I know I definitely dont want Jensen Ackles or Scott Porter, they are simply not that good.
Philip Winchester is my favorite choice thus far. Garrett Hudlund's a little rough around the edges but I at least find him passable.
I wish people would stop with the 20-something losers though. I dont think any of the 20-something actors have the talent and/or charisma to perform as an innocently wide-eyed but war-experienced hero
Vey valid point. What I can't stop thinking about, is Avengers. All these young, nameless pretty boys people keep suggesting.... imagine them sharing the screen with Robert Downey Jr, Ed Norton and Samuel L Jackson. RDJ alone would eat them alive and act them off-screen. They need an actor with the presence and gravitas to hold his own and look convincing alongside established names like that.
jab1118
08-05-2009, 11:11 AM
Vey valid point. What I can't stop thinking about, is Avengers. All these young, nameless pretty boys people keep suggesting.... imagine them sharing the screen with Robert Downey Jr, Ed Norton and Samuel L Jackson. RDJ alone would eat them alive and act them off-screen. They need an actor with the presence and gravitas to hold his own and look convincing alongside established names like that.
While i agree with you here i dont really think it matters who plays Cap RDJ is gonna come off as stealing almost every scene. SImply because the way he has decided to play Stark as this very funny quick witted Character. U could have the best actors on that list Leo, Pitt, Damon, while maybe not my choices but clearly the best actors, and Cap is gonna come off somewhat boring compared to stark. And thats okay Steves personality is kind of boring when compared to Starks, the bigger issue to me is the writing, find a way to make him just as interesting he could have the more emotional arc. Im not worried about Norton or Jackson, Norton while very good plays Banner as somewhat a boreing character, and Jackson forgot how to act years ago when he realized how cool he was. Now all he does is yell and talk about how cool he is
Project862006
08-05-2009, 01:02 PM
chris pine would be good when dealing with international appeal with his star trek fame but that would be 2 franchises maybe 3 if they continue cap
catintheengine
08-05-2009, 01:27 PM
Vey valid point. What I can't stop thinking about, is Avengers. All these young, nameless pretty boys people keep suggesting.... imagine them sharing the screen with Robert Downey Jr, Ed Norton and Samuel L Jackson. RDJ alone would eat them alive and act them off-screen. They need an actor with the presence and gravitas to hold his own and look convincing alongside established names like that.
That's a great point, but I still stick by my opinion that Ackles would be great for the part, and this COULD be his big break. Back in the 80's RDJ and SLJ weren't household names by any means, and Norton didn't really break out until the late 90's. There's nothing to say that Ackles (or any of the other names being tossed around) won't have that kind of success in a decade. I've only seen a handful of episodes of Supernatural, but I do find him to be an engaging actor in his role. We've been lucky thus far in that the big name actors who played Hulk and Iron Man didn't overshadow the very characters that they were playing, which is a risk you run when you cast actors of that stature.
Not to forget my other choice for Cap: Neal McDonough. The guy isn't a household name by any means, but I think a lot of people would know him if they saw him. Plus, he was in Band of Brothers and was excellent in that role so you know he's familiar with filming a WWII period piece. Plus, he's a bit older so if that's what the studio was looking for...
I'd be happy with either of them getting the part, honestly. I really don't think it's necessary to have an Oscar winner or anything in the part, just someone who can carry the character and act well. I think that McDonough is already plenty capable and that Ackles has the potential, he just needs the right role.
Just my two cents worth.
Webhead2006
08-05-2009, 01:39 PM
Ya hopefully we know in the coming months what is going to be.
Honestly, I would rather see Ben Affleck (not that I am suggesting him) play Cap than Matt Damon. While both are too old for the role, Affleck is only 36 while Damon is 38. Affleck is 6'3 while Damon is listed as 5'10 (which I doubt). Both have done their share of crappy movies and both have done good movies. They are basically on par with each other other than the physical characteristics, so... If Marvel wants Box Office clout in the star of Captain America, go with Affleck over Damon...but ideally, go with someone else :D
I like Jensen Ackles, Garrett Hedlund and Ryan McPartlin
Rage
tallsy_1
08-05-2009, 04:37 PM
All these young, nameless pretty boys people keep suggesting.... imagine them sharing the screen with Robert Downey Jr, Ed Norton and Samuel L Jackson. RDJ alone would eat them alive and act them off-screen. They need an actor with the presence and gravitas to hold his own and look convincing alongside established names like that.
I agree with this. And that's why I think that they will likely go with an established star (also for the overseas box office).
However, as I suggested in the other thread, if not, then Duhamel and Carmack should garner more consideration given they did well opposite James Caan (Las Vegas) and Alec Baldwin (Entertaining Mr. Sloane on Broadway) respectively.
Wally West
08-05-2009, 05:14 PM
Vey valid point. What I can't stop thinking about, is Avengers. All these young, nameless pretty boys people keep suggesting.... imagine them sharing the screen with Robert Downey Jr, Ed Norton and Samuel L Jackson. RDJ alone would eat them alive and act them off-screen. They need an actor with the presence and gravitas to hold his own and look convincing alongside established names like that.
Excellent point. On top of that, this is CAPTAIN AMERICA we're talking about, the other characters would be somewhat in awe of him. He's someone who has the presence to bark orders at a god, who respects him enough to follow them without thinking twice.
Whoever they cast is going to have to be someone capable of inspiring that type of respect among these iconic characters/actors. I agree that some of the younger names mentioned probably aren't capable of such a preformance (not that I'm dissing Ackles though - I love Supernatural, and I wouldn't be angry if he got the part, but I would be worried). That's why I'd like someone a bit more distinguished like Matt Damon or Leo Dicaprio. Of the younger actors I like Pine, his preformance in Star Trek was just brimming with self assurance, poise, and confidence. Tone down the overly cocky moments, and sarcastic wit in that preformance and it's not far from what is needed in CA.
protocida
08-05-2009, 05:38 PM
Steve Rogers/Captain America - ????
Gail Richards- Kate Beckinsale.
Bucky Barnes - Anton Yelchin.
Glenn Kowalsky - John Goodman.
Gabriel Jones - Tyreese Gibson.
Robert Rebel - Jamie Bell.
Doctor Faustus - Brendan Gleeson.
Red Skull - Viggo Mortensen.
WillardNation
08-05-2009, 05:46 PM
While i agree with you here i dont really think it matters who plays Cap RDJ is gonna come off as stealing almost every scene. SImply because the way he has decided to play Stark as this very funny quick witted Character. U could have the best actors on that list Leo, Pitt, Damon, while maybe not my choices but clearly the best actors, and Cap is gonna come off somewhat boring compared to stark. And thats okay Steves personality is kind of boring when compared to Starks, the bigger issue to me is the writing, find a way to make him just as interesting he could have the more emotional arc. Im not worried about Norton or Jackson, Norton while very good plays Banner as somewhat a boreing character, and Jackson forgot how to act years ago when he realized how cool he was. Now all he does is yell and talk about how cool he is
:up: totally agree.
Of the younger actors I like Pine, his preformance in Star Trek was just brimming with self assurance, poise, and confidence. Tone down the overly cocky moments, and sarcastic wit in that preformance and it's not far from what is needed in CA.
:up::up::up::up::up:
NEXUS 6
08-05-2009, 05:51 PM
If that Scott Reeves can act he is my number two (behind Gabriel Macht).
cerealkiller182
08-05-2009, 06:24 PM
Bailey Chase (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003082/)
all-American looking, not blonde but light brown, pushing 40 (37), good frame to work on. Like him a lot on Saving Grace. No one will like him Im sure, but a new, different name to throw out there
louiebling$
08-05-2009, 07:24 PM
My main thing is he is 40.... If they went with an Older Cap Then the Role Should go to Mark Valley IMO.
Gamma Goliath
08-05-2009, 08:30 PM
Yeah we need a younger cap, I never saw him as a war hero pushing forty.
cerealkiller182
08-05-2009, 08:38 PM
My main thing is he is 40.... If they went with an Older Cap Then the Role Should go to Mark Valley IMO.
Well I agree it should be Valley If they went with Captain America period, but there needs to be new blood. Its just the same names over and over, same thing happens in the Catwoman thread too *yawn* YA know, theres only so many times Marion Cottillard, Angelina Jolie, and Rachel Weisz can be compared to each other. Same goes for Cap.
tallsy_1
08-05-2009, 08:39 PM
I agree that Scott Reeves (Eastwood) is a good outside the box, high risk/high reward choice. It would be a marketing coup. Just saying "Clint Eastwood's son as Captain America" sells itself. People like my parents, who never go to comic book films, would be intrigued enough to see the movie. However, if he can't act, it would be an epic disaster of Waterworld proportions.
And I agree, no actors pushing forty unless it's Damon or Pitt.
cerealkiller182
08-05-2009, 08:48 PM
I agree that Scott Reeves (Eastwood) is a good outside the box, high risk/high reward choice. It would be a marketing coup. Just saying "Clint Eastwood's son as Captain America" sells itself. People like my parents, who never go to comic book films, would be intrigued enough to see the movie. However, if he can't act, it would be an epic disaster of Waterworld proportions.
And I agree, no actors pushing forty unless it's Damon or Pitt.
Looks the part, dont know his acting. Dont even remember him from Gran Torino.
Wally West
08-05-2009, 10:28 PM
Yeah we need a younger cap, I never saw him as a war hero pushing forty.
If someone gets injected with the supersoldier formula his age becomes FAR less relevant.
Gamma Goliath
08-05-2009, 10:29 PM
Well if anyone has seen scott reeves act, can they step foward an tell us if he's a keeper.
Project862006
08-05-2009, 10:30 PM
but not 40 lol a 30 year old is even pushing it for cap imo
Double Down
08-05-2009, 11:15 PM
I know some people had talked about Channing Tatum in the role. It was just announced that he will play the lead role in a movie based on "The Darkness" comic book.
aka Kal el
08-06-2009, 12:04 AM
Ryan Philippe?
DING DING! Have you seen him lately? He is definitely bulking up for something! I have never seen him this big! Like I said before an actor will NOT bulk up unless it is for a Specific ROLE! I guess we will just have to see in December.These are not the only contenders though.
Superhero 101
08-06-2009, 12:46 AM
I don't think him play Cap for some reason. But i can't seem to find pics of him buffed up could you post some?
louiebling$
08-06-2009, 12:48 AM
Well I agree it should be Valley If they went with Captain America period, but there needs to be new blood. Its just the same names over and over, same thing happens in the Catwoman thread too *yawn* YA know, theres only so many times Marion Cottillard, Angelina Jolie, and Rachel Weisz can be compared to each other. Same goes for Cap.Yea I agree with you there which is the reason I stopped going to the Catwoman casting thread lol but Chase has been thrown around here Before and I have also seen his name tossed around for GL. I've never seen his work,so I night have to check him out.
Looks the part, dont know his acting. Dont even remember him from Gran Torino. he was the White kid walking with the asian girl when she gets harrased by the black guys and Eastwood pulls up in the truck and does the fake hand gun thing and scares them.
DING DING! Have you seen him lately? He is definitely bulking up for something! I have never seen him this big! Like I said before an actor will NOT bulk up unless it is for a Specific ROLE! I guess we will just have to see in December.These are not the only contenders though. have you seen him in Five Fingers?
I was astonished on how much he has improved as an actor.
Chewy
08-06-2009, 02:06 AM
Chris Pine stands above the other candidates in my mind as the best candidate
WeaponXProject
08-06-2009, 10:16 AM
You can only pick one...there can only be one. :huh: This isnt Highlander! :oldrazz:
That-Guy
08-06-2009, 10:48 AM
Chris Pine would be great, but he's already playing one legendary Captain... not sure it would be a good idea for him to play another.
I voted for Ackles. Although the movie wasn't great, I thought he did a good job in My Bloody Valentine and he looks the part of a young Cap. Hedlund might also be good.
Triad
08-06-2009, 11:14 AM
Yeah, My Bloody Valentine 3-D is never going to make you a household name! I really dig him on Supernatural, though. My vote has been cast. McPartlin and Pine are my runner-ups, but as WeaponXProject stated, we can only choose one, so it's gotta be Ackles for moi.
Double Down
08-06-2009, 11:22 AM
You can only pick one...there can only be one. :huh: This isnt Highlander! :oldrazz:
:woot:
I did it largely to differentiate it from the other poll -- to do something new. Plus, on the other one, you had people voting for every actor ... because they could.
On this one, you get to cast one actor for the role. It takes a little more thought than just picking four or five guys. :up:
By and large, I tried to make sure everyone got their choices in the poll. And, as an aside, I looked up "Scott Reeves" on imdb and they have him listed as Scott Eastwood, so that is the name I went with.
Triad
08-06-2009, 11:41 AM
That's cool DD. I prefer it this way anyhow. You'll have to commit to your pick and that way their numbers will reflect who is the true fan favorite.
Brian Braddock
08-06-2009, 12:11 PM
Havent voted yet as I'm finding it soooooo friggin' hard to actually nail down one name.
WeaponXProject
08-06-2009, 12:21 PM
:woot:
I did it largely to differentiate it from the other poll -- to do something new. Plus, on the other one, you had people voting for every actor ... because they could.
On this one, you get to cast one actor for the role. It takes a little more thought than just picking four or five guys. :up:
By and large, I tried to make sure everyone got their choices in the poll. And, as an aside, I looked up "Scott Reeves" on imdb and they have him listed as Scott Eastwood, so that is the name I went with.
No, it's a good idea for the poll.:up:
As for Eastwood's son. Hell no, he is terriblely bad as in Gran Torino and his delivery is bad in other movies. Not to mention he looks like the ugliest version of Clint possible. Bad pick, I don't see why anyone would pick someone with no credentials, no size and looks.
jab1118
08-06-2009, 01:41 PM
DING DING! Have you seen him lately? He is definitely bulking up for something! I have never seen him this big! Like I said before an actor will NOT bulk up unless it is for a Specific ROLE! I guess we will just have to see in December.These are not the only contenders though.
I just saw him like a week or two ago do an interview on my local sports station because he came home and was at a phillies game. And had the same thought. I never really liked him for cap I always thought he came off a little feminin but I don't kno. Maybe it was cause he was looking thicker but I am definently more open to him he has a deep voice o sometimes u don't notice cause of the characters he plays. And while he isn't my number one choice he may be the right type of name that would be perfect for cap just about everybody recognizes him and knows his name but he definently ain't a star and getting a role like this would make him one. He is sort of along the lines of ledger getting joker
Brian Braddock
08-06-2009, 02:09 PM
Phillippe certainly seems to be working out for something.
Definately thicker.
My problem with Ryan Phillipe is that he's really Short. I think that whomevver plays Cap needs to be atleast 6' tall (taller than RDJ and Norton but shorter than Hemsworth)
Rage
WeaponXProject
08-06-2009, 02:21 PM
I don't see Phillippe as Cap really at all. I don't think he could handle it, he's falling off alot in the last couple of years. As for putting on weight its probably for a DTV movie again. I haven't seen him in a big hit since......... Crash. Who knows? I'd let him try out for the part though if I were Marvel.
Triad
08-06-2009, 02:51 PM
Yeah, I'm not really diggin on Phillippe either. If he got the part I would support him, but I would be a little disappointed initially.
Brian Braddock
08-06-2009, 03:28 PM
As would I - the way I figure it, unless the casting is catastophically bad, as Cap fans we've got to get behind whoever is cast.
About the height thing though- anyone who regularly goes on the Superman casting thread knows that lifts in the shoes are the way to go. :cwink:
Seriously, I dont think some posters can go a couple of posts on there without mentioning how a 5'11'' actor would be able to wear 5 inch lifts to make him tall enough for the role (anyone who does go on there regularly probably knows who I'm talking about too).
:hehe:
goh78
08-06-2009, 03:38 PM
My problem with Ryan Phillipe is that he's really Short. I think that whomevver plays Cap needs to be atleast 6' tall (taller than RDJ and Norton but shorter than Hemsworth)
Rage
Jesus, RDJ wears lifts. It's not a problem. They couldn't find an actor who looked like Gollum either but that worked out well. It's called movie magic.
Wally West
08-06-2009, 04:17 PM
Jesus, RDJ wears lifts. It's not a problem. They couldn't find an actor who looked like Gollum either but that worked out well. It's called movie magic.
lol. How true. Not only that but in LOTR they made elijah wood apear 3 feet shorter than Ian McKellen in some scenes using only perspective and angled camera tricks - without cgi.
Brian Braddock
08-06-2009, 04:24 PM
You dont say!!!!!
I honestly thought they used real Hobbits. ;) :D
Look, the way I see it - it's basically the same kind of deal as with the suggestions of casting an older actor and using CG to de-age him; sure, it can be done but why go to all that needless effort and expense when you can just cast a guy who's aS close to the correct height as can be?
Using forced perspective just to accommodate a particular actor would be putting an unneccessary restriction and time-consuming restraint of the filmakers imo.
Chris B
08-06-2009, 04:40 PM
I think Ben McKenzie could pull it off. Though I'll admit that him being a little on the shorter side could be a problem.
UnionJack
08-06-2009, 06:29 PM
For me it has to be Jensen Ackles.
He is very good in Supernatural, not a MASSIVE name (yet people will know of him) so won't be asking for too much £$£$£$£ yet still young enough to pull it off for a good few films.
Project862006
08-06-2009, 06:43 PM
Phillipe cant do it not disrespect but he is kinda of a pussy lolol i watched Franklyn and i could not buy him as a bad ass
Wally West
08-06-2009, 07:59 PM
You dont say!!!!!
I honestly thought they used real Hobbits. ;) :D
Look, the way I see it - it's basically the same kind of deal as with the suggestions of casting an older actor and using CG to de-age him; sure, it can be done but why go to all that needless effort and expense when you can just cast a guy who's aS close to the correct height as can be?
Using forced perspective just to accommodate a particular actor would be putting an unneccessary restriction and time-consuming restraint of the filmakers imo.
I don't think they're going to consider a 3 foot or 8 foot actor for the role, so it's not gonna come to that. Making someone apear 4 inches taller/shorter on film is a different story and doesn't require much effort, money or time to accomplish. Not that Im suggesting they go that route, most of my favorites are around the right height. I was just using LOTR as an exagerated example of what's possible.
aka Kal el
08-06-2009, 08:59 PM
I don't think him play Cap for some reason. But i can't seem to find pics of him buffed up could you post some?http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/20/ryan-phillippe-good-vibrations/
Project862006
08-06-2009, 09:52 PM
i cant by him as a tough guy he just reminds me of JT
BizarroAids
08-06-2009, 09:54 PM
I'd pick someone like Patrick Wilson over Ryan Phillipe...I just can't see him as Cap at all. I'm sure there's an unknown out there that fits him perfectly.:csad:
jab1118
08-07-2009, 10:46 AM
I used to be very much against phillips. But now I would say I'm not for or against just open. I would let him audition he's a pretty good actor and hey maybe he could do it if u gave him a shot
goh78
08-07-2009, 02:15 PM
Ever since Cruel Intentions I've had an overwhelming urge to punch him square in the face.
Brian Braddock
08-07-2009, 02:28 PM
In fairness, his character was the kind of rich, self-serving, arrogant, pretentious prick that you probably would punch in the face.
I guess that you actually did want to punch Phillippe in the face is a testament to his performance.
WeaponXProject
08-07-2009, 04:40 PM
I'd pick someone like Patrick Wilson over Ryan Phillipe...I just can't see him as Cap at all. I'm sure there's an unknown out there that fits him perfectly.:csad:
Me too. I'm definitely a Patrick Wilson supporter and think Phillippe would scratch before he'd punch.
Ever since Cruel Intentions I've had an overwhelming urge to punch him square in the face.
That means he did his job then. He was supposed to make you hate him.
Gamma Goliath
08-08-2009, 02:10 AM
I just saw channing tatum, in gi joe, I liked the movie, but channings performance was painfuly wack. He was the weakest link of the of the cast. His performance can be compaired to john cena.
I'm still kinda looking at scott eastwood, even though I've never seen him act.
bruce_kent
08-08-2009, 02:18 AM
http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/paul-wesley-vampire-diaries-stefan.jpg
¿And Paul Wesley from Smallville & Vampire Diaries, what do you think?. ...
Bye
WillardNation
08-08-2009, 04:36 AM
Never seen him act but he doesn't look the part at all.
Aesop Rocks
08-08-2009, 11:09 AM
Dear everyone: Channing tatum is not going to be captain america. He's a piss poor actor and for being the main character in g.i no he cant carry it well.
Project862006
08-08-2009, 12:34 PM
breaking news: no one here wanted tatum so your rant is a waste of time
Webhead2006
08-08-2009, 02:01 PM
Ya and i dont think even channing would want the part either.
ChinoXL
08-08-2009, 03:21 PM
To bad Jason Lewis voice is not as deep (that can easily change with some training) and his acting has not really been shown enough to know if it's good or not....but he looks like Captain America love child
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI4KsJIYcs8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUkDqlJcQSo
Has the look but the acting will only be truely shown through "the pardon"
and he's certainly in shape for it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc79K_PrKOw&feature=related
but at the end of the day i chose ackles too
Triad
08-08-2009, 04:49 PM
Yeah, Lewis definitely has the right look (Especially with a little more muscle), but that voice is horrendous!
I SEE SPIDEY
08-08-2009, 04:52 PM
http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/paul-wesley-vampire-diaries-stefan.jpg
¿And Paul Wesley from Smallville & Vampire Diaries, what do you think?. ...
ByeI liked him in this terrible T.V movie he played in.
afrayedknot
08-08-2009, 06:54 PM
To all those continuing to support Jensen Ackles (or any other "CW"actor):
Do you remember when "Angel" was a popular series and how everyone thought David Boreanaz would be the perfect Bruce Wayne? I just think these casting suggestions are along the same lines. They may be good for television, but just don't have what it takes to carry a film, let alone a franchise.
I SEE SPIDEY
08-08-2009, 08:09 PM
I never supported Boreanaz for any such role because I don't find him to be that good of an actor... even on T.V.
bruce_kent
08-08-2009, 08:10 PM
Jensen Ackles as IMDB.com is rumored as a candidate for Captain America, here are the links that let this out:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458339/
http://captainamerica-thefirstavenger.blogspot.com/2009/08/rumorville-jensen-ackles-como-steve.html
Bye
To all those continuing to support Jensen Ackles (or any other "CW"actor):
Do you remember when "Angel" was a popular series and how everyone thought David Boreanaz would be the perfect Bruce Wayne? I just think these casting suggestions are along the same lines. They may be good for television, but just don't have what it takes to carry a film, let alone a franchise.
Jensen Ackles also came off as very douchbaggy in the one interview I've seen him in (Jimmy Kimmel Live). Boreanaz atleast seems like a pretty nice guy. But you make a good point, he hasn't quite made a splash on the big screen yet. Shouldn't discount anybody from the CW/UPN/WB though. Kristen Bell seems to have been pretty accepted ever since Veronica Mars premiered and hasn't lost any steam since it was cancelled. But maybe more of that stigma counts for male actors. It's easier for them coming from Fox shows.
afrayedknot
08-08-2009, 10:19 PM
Unknown and lesser known actors may be fine for second-tier heroes. In the case of Kristen Bell, acting in supporting roles (in films with good buzz) have helped her career. I just don't think actors like Jensen Ackles are taken seriously enough. Maybe some supporting roles, some indie films, and not always playing the lead might help their range and credibility. But as far as supporting a major film, I would think they would want a world-recognizable star.
Infinity9999x
08-09-2009, 01:03 AM
Unknown and lesser known actors may be fine for second-tier heroes. In the case of Kristen Bell, acting in supporting roles (in films with good buzz) have helped her career. I just don't think actors like Jensen Ackles are taken seriously enough. Maybe some supporting roles, some indie films, and not always playing the lead might help their range and credibility. But as far as supporting a major film, I would think they would want a world-recognizable star.
Not always, I mean, look at movies like X-men (Wolverine), Superman: The Movie, and even to a smaller extent, Batman Begins. (You could hardly call Bale world-recognizable. Reign of Fire, Swing Kids, and the Newsies were his biggest hits until Begins.)
And to be honest, Cap is less popular with the general public than any of the superheroes whose movies I mentioned above. He's no where near the level of Batman, Superman, or Wolverine in terms of general public awareness. Heck, the only thing that put Cap in the realm of general public awareness in the past ten years was when he was "killed" in the comics, and that's already been forgotten.
However, a big name actor would certainly help with the marketing, but I have a hard time thinking of one that I would want for Cap. I think Brad, Damon, and DeCaprio all have the chops to do it, but Brads getting old and Damn and DeCaprio both don't have the look.
alexlachiusa
08-09-2009, 01:09 AM
I'm seriously tossing up between Jensen Ackles, Channing Tatum & Chris Pine.
WillardNation
08-09-2009, 05:39 AM
I'm seriously tossing up between Jensen Ackles, Channing Tatum & Chris Pine.
You should probably go with Chris Pine. :grin:
Give Ackles Hawkeye and Tatum nothing.
aka Kal el
08-09-2009, 11:44 AM
I'm seriously tossing up between Jensen Ackles, Channing Tatum & Chris Pine.
I know some of you don't like this but you have to also include Paul Walker especially after the performance of the last Fast & furious movie. It's just how things work.....sorry:word:
louiebling$
08-09-2009, 02:17 PM
I'm am actually curious to see walker in a military role.
donk70
08-09-2009, 06:17 PM
Tatum has the look, but does he have enough clout to carry a flick?
jab1118
08-09-2009, 06:36 PM
To all those continuing to support Jensen Ackles (or any other "CW"actor):
Do you remember when "Angel" was a popular series and how everyone thought David Boreanaz would be the perfect Bruce Wayne? I just think these casting suggestions are along the same lines. They may be good for television, but just don't have what it takes to carry a film, let alone a franchise.
I think that people overestimate Ackles fame. On a board like this u would think he is a star on tv hes not. He is on a marginal "hit" show on a network nobody watches. And I say "hit" because ratings that make a hit on the CW is a show that any other network is canceling
I'm am actually curious to see walker in a military role.
Preferably a non speaking one where he dies quickly and violently
WillardNation
08-09-2009, 07:18 PM
I think that people overestimate Ackles fame. On a board like this u would think he is a star on tv hes not. He is on a marginal "hit" show on a network nobody watches. And I say "hit" because ratings that make a hit on the CW is a show that any other network is canceling
I had never heard of him before this board.
Infinity9999x
08-09-2009, 07:28 PM
I had never heard of him before this board.
Neither did I.
And why does IMDB have him cast as Cap for the movie already?
cerealkiller182
08-09-2009, 07:37 PM
Neither did I.
And why does IMDB have him cast as Cap for the movie already?
IMDB is kinda like wikipedia. It can be user generated although I think they have people fact checking more so than wiki does.
Gamma Goliath
08-09-2009, 10:22 PM
I don't think Channing will get the role, not after seeing him in gijoe.
He doesn't have the talent, voice or presence for the role.
WillardNation
08-10-2009, 12:57 AM
Yeah, I just got out of GI Joe, good movie but Tatum IS a pretty horrible actor.
Carlo Comicus
08-10-2009, 04:13 AM
http://www.beyondhollywood.com/mark-valley-and-john-barrowman-on-captain-america/
Majik1387
08-10-2009, 04:27 AM
Scott Porter for Cap.:up:
louiebling$
08-10-2009, 06:36 AM
Scott Porter for Cap.:up:
He is still my number one and IMO the best possible canidate :up:
How tall is Ackles anyway? Everyone talking about heights made me think; if CA is played by an average-heighted (?) actor, then RDJ can lose the lifts, Ackles could wear some and suddenly Chris Hemsworth is a truly massive Thor!!! :woot:
Regarding the chosen CA, he could quietly tell Tony Stark (as he's about to make a chirp), "now's not the time for comments, Mr. Stark" and have Tony actually look abashed and....... shup up! RDJ can make what the CA actor says, powerful imo. I think Ackles is good enough, but the great actors in the film will lift and sometimes (when needed) carry him.
Oh wait, this is the solo film thread, damn - I've still voted for Ackles; there's a reason I'm not sitting on the acadamy awards voting panel :cwink:.
WeaponXProject
08-10-2009, 04:45 PM
Neither did I.
And why does IMDB have him cast as Cap for the movie already?
Me neither.
Imdb also has Johnny Depp starring in the Sincity 2 and 3 with it already in pre-production for the last 2 years.
Imdb sux unless your looking to see what an actor/actress has already done.
I'm also kind of done with Channing Tatum after seeing him in GI Joe, though its not gonna be a performance oriented movie to begin with, I didn't like him in it.
But I also don't like 95% of the TV choices on here, either.
Webhead2006
08-10-2009, 11:03 PM
and watch it will probably turn out to be someone we are not even thinking of at this time. like for gl ryan came out of the blue.
NEXUS 6
08-11-2009, 12:24 AM
Why isn't Macht in the poll?:csad:
I vote none of the above!
(Though I wouldn't be depressed if Hedlund was cast.)
Majik1387
08-11-2009, 03:36 AM
Because Macht is too old. Half the poll is too old/looks too old as well.
I SEE SPIDEY
08-11-2009, 05:33 AM
Why isn't that guy from that terrible Sin City rip off not in the poll? I haven't the slightest idea why...
Spider-Fan83
08-11-2009, 02:51 PM
for a lesser known...
I still kinda think, Sears, is worst a mention in the new thread here
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/10/teddy20sears3364200.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/teddy20sears3364200.jpg/)http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3786/raisingthebar.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/raisingthebar.jpg/)
WeaponXProject
08-11-2009, 03:17 PM
Because Macht is too old. Half the poll is too old/looks too old as well.
What is too old? Cap doesn't look boyishly young, atleast traditionally not.
afrayedknot
08-11-2009, 03:20 PM
I wonder . . . could Cary Elwes have pulled it off back in the day?
WeaponXProject
08-11-2009, 04:09 PM
I wonder . . . could Cary Elwes have pulled it off back in the day?
Nope but he could have been Angel or Banshee.
Webhead2006
08-11-2009, 05:33 PM
well we know this is going to be an origin pic for cap so they probably want to stick with 25-33 range so they are young enough yet mature looking, and could be locked down in a multi pic deal and still be young to do 2-3 films over the cours of the next 3-6 yrs.
WeaponXProject
08-11-2009, 06:14 PM
well we know this is going to be an origin pic for cap so they probably want to stick with 25-33 range so they are young enough yet mature looking, and could be locked down in a multi pic deal and still be young to do 2-3 films over the cours of the next 3-6 yrs.
Everything you just said makes me think that the smart pics, that we can think of, is Leo. Say what you will about how he looks now but an actor can transform himself into a character...there is no doubt in my mind he could gain weight, get stronger and command the stage.
No offense but with these T.V. actors I'm afraid we will end up with a SyFy original movie with lots of f/x and no presence. That is one of my major worries with this movie is if the actor has stage command and presence. 75% of these guys don't have that for a movie this big, imo.
Triad
08-12-2009, 12:38 AM
I still say that even though he is a virtually unknown TV actor, a lot of you are selling Jensen Ackles' abilities short. He has the look, the charisma, the voice, the age and (most importantly) the acting talent, IMHO! He just hasn't had the right film-role yet..."My Bloody Valentine 3-D" just ain't gonna cut it! Maybe ole' Wing-head can be his breakout role? I think that he has it in him.
Don't get me wrong - I'll support whoever Marvel & Johnston chooses, but I will be let down if Ackles isn't even tested. According to the current poll results, it looks like a few of you agree with me.
NEXUS 6
08-12-2009, 01:20 AM
Is anybody else really adamant about not having some young punk (i.e. Jensen Ackles) playing Captain America. Most of these guys wouldn't survive a day of the training that is required for the role. I want somebody who is willing and able to do what Christian Bale did in preparation for Batman.
Grand Sophy
08-12-2009, 02:13 AM
Why the disdain for tv actors? Leonardo DiCaprio started as a television actor, as did George Clooney, Tom Hanks, Will Smith, John Travolta, Bruce Willis and Eddie Murphy, among many others. Brad Pitt was on "Another World" and Alec Baldwin was on "The Doctors", both soaps, during the 80's. A lot of big name movie and theatre actors are currently on television shows--does that make them less skilled? To take Jensen Ackles as an example, one reason he hasn't had a break out movie role is because he's been highly in demand and steadily employed in television since he was 18. Why? Because he's a good and reliable actor, who plays the role he's been hired to play, whether it's a fun one (Dark Angel, Supernatural) or a bland one (Dawson's Creek, Smallville). I'm sure if he were cast as Captain America (kind of unlikely, given he's locked in until 2011 at least for Supernatural) he would do whatever was necessary to prepare for the role, although probably without the Bale-type histrionics.
Blackman
08-12-2009, 02:45 AM
Because Macht is too old. Half the poll is too old/looks too old as well.
well we know this is going to be an origin pic for cap so they probably want to stick with 25-33 range so they are young enough yet mature looking, and could be locked down in a multi pic deal and still be young to do 2-3 films over the cours of the next 3-6 yrs.
Thank you. I'm tired of the suggestions for older ppl for cap. I mean Brad Pitt? Cap is supposed to be the peak of human form. Unless you're half man, half amazing that doesn't happen at 45
Is anybody else really adamant about not having some young punk (i.e. Jensen Ackles) playing Captain America. Most of these guys wouldn't survive a day of the training that is required for the role. I want somebody who is willing and able to do what Christian Bale did in preparation for Batman.
??lol young punk. Steve is a young so...yeah. I would take a "young punk" who can act than an aging actor.
and how do you know whether someone would last a day or not? You cant really say that about any actor unless they're in a hospice. Thats a real feeble reason to not support someone. And stop comparing actors to Bale not everyone can lose weight, gain weight, lose it again like Bale can. Thats like a talent of his lol. You cant expect everyone to be able to do that.
Ackles is actually a well liked actor. I havent seen anyone deny his acting abilities after seeing Supernatural ( I heard he was god awful in Smallville I nvr saw him). The only person I saw who disliked him had a series beef with The CW in general. Ackles isnt my top choice for Steve maybe because I cant picture him with blond hair but if he gets picked its better then Brad Pitt, Damon, McConaughey imo. It's so funny to me that you're worried about a young punk getting cast when thats what Rogers is before the serum. To me it's like saying "No that guy is no good for Batman, he's too brooding" or "No to that guy as James Bond, he's too good looking"
That all being said my choice is not on the poll: Ben McKenzie
http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/Fannboi/People/20080131053957RyanAtwood.jpg
alexlachiusa
08-12-2009, 05:30 AM
How tall is Ackles anyway?
He's about 6"1, the reason he looks short on Supernatural is because Jared is 6"4 so naturally he's going to look shorter in comparison.
Jensen would make a better Hawkeye anyway.
jimbo 007
08-12-2009, 12:55 PM
Is anybody else really adamant about not having some young punk (i.e. Jensen Ackles) playing Captain America. Most of these guys wouldn't survive a day of the training that is required for the role. I want somebody who is willing and able to do what Christian Bale did in preparation for Batman.
Why wouldn't a younger actor survive a day of the training. Guys like Ackles or Porter are already in good shape so it's not like physical training is anything new too them. (I'm not saying they're my top choices; just examples.) If anything a younger actor would have an easier time with the training.
I'm not saying older actors can't get into shape either. Just look at guys like Hugh Jackman and Gerald Butler. I'm not saying they're old by any means (or choices for Cap); just examples of actors older than guys like McPartlin or Pine but still in incredible shape.
jimbo 007
08-12-2009, 01:00 PM
On a side note; I didn't intend for that ":csad:" to appear by the title. I don't want NEXUS 6 to think I was "unhappy" about his post. I'm still getting the hang of posting on the boards so if I mess up it isn't intentional. :huh:
louiebling$
08-12-2009, 02:45 PM
My only gripe with Ben McKenzie is his height.
TheDarkKnight08
08-12-2009, 03:14 PM
Captain America is going to be extremely difficult to cast. No one really gives off that ultra-American feel that Steve rogers needs to have. Have of the people mentioned have this feel, like Aaron Eckhart or Brad Pitt, but their age makes them diffcult to envision in the role. The other half consists of these young, flavor of the month actors that just LOOK the part, but acting-wise will probably not even compare especially when next to RDJ or Ed Norton. I thought Patrick Wilson wouldn't be too bad a choice, esepcially with his hair grown out and a bigger build. Other than that, I think C.A. going to the hardest to cast.
Who knows, though? Look at what happened with Thor and Chris Hemsworth.:cwink:
jimbo 007
08-12-2009, 04:25 PM
Although I understand everyone who's concerned about putting a younger acter in a film with guys like RDJ or Norton it has been done before with much younger actors. Haley Joel Osment was in "The Sixth Sense" with Bruce Willis and he (Osment) was nominated for best supporting actor at the Oscar's. Also, Dakota Fanning was with Densel Washington (an Oscar Winner) in "Man on Fire".
So if these two can hold their own against veteran actors I'm sure some of the young guys on the list can do the same with RDJ and Norton.
TheDarkKnight08
08-12-2009, 04:29 PM
Although I understand everyone who's concerned about putting a younger acter in a film with guys like RDJ or Norton it has been done before with much younger actors. Haley Joel Osment was in "The Sixth Sense" with Bruce Willis and he (Osment) was nominated for best supporting actor at the Oscar's. Also, Dakota Fanning was with Densel Washington (an Oscar Winner) in "Man on Fire".
So if these two can hold their own against veteran actors I'm sure some of the young guys on the list can do the same with RDJ and Norton.
The actors you just mentioned were kids in kid roles.
The people mentioned here are 20-something flavors-of-the-month who's experience doesn't go beyond a couple of teenie-bopper movies and TV shows being mentioned for what is perhaps one of the most interesting characters in comic book history and the most important piece of the Avengers puzzle. Who knows, when cast they might surprise us, but til then, I'm skeptical.
WeaponXProject
08-12-2009, 08:36 PM
Why the disdain for tv actors? Leonardo DiCaprio started as a television actor, as did George Clooney, Tom Hanks, Will Smith, John Travolta, Bruce Willis and Eddie Murphy, among many others. Brad Pitt was on "Another World" and Alec Baldwin was on "The Doctors", both soaps, during the 80's. A lot of big name movie and theatre actors are currently on television shows--does that make them less skilled? To take Jensen Ackles as an example, one reason he hasn't had a break out movie role is because he's been highly in demand and steadily employed in television since he was 18. Why? Because he's a good and reliable actor, who plays the role he's been hired to play, whether it's a fun one (Dark Angel, Supernatural) or a bland one (Dawson's Creek, Smallville). I'm sure if he were cast as Captain America (kind of unlikely, given he's locked in until 2011 at least for Supernatural) he would do whatever was necessary to prepare for the role, although probably without the Bale-type histrionics.
The difference is Leo went from an early age straight to movies. Most of those actors didn't spend 12 years on T.V. shows not talked about and then get a big break. I've seen Ackles and no I don't think he has what it takes for a lead in a 150 million dollar movie. I do think he has a chance to be a supporting role in other superhero films. But the way I'm thinking is if he was such a good actor he would have gotten bigger roles by now. Why has he been floating around on T.V. so long?
I am pretty surprised there are so many pics of just a face, now Ackles is a little better than that, and the lack of faith that a talented actor could transform himself into a character.
In the end, it's a very unclear decision with most of us saying "too old, too young or no experience". I am picking the best candidates out of what Kevin Feige is saying and that seems to be an "international star" or something close. So I've grounded myself in what they've been looking for and I think Leo, Pine, Pitt and a few others we probably haven't thought of are more likely than T.V. actors.
That all being said, I also have some picks that are pretty much my "supplement picks" or picks if they can't get him, him, him, or him...like Pine. Not much experience, one fun performance but not great. I'm getting to the point with this that pretty much 1/4th of the fanbase is going to be pissed no matter who gets casts.
Good luck to whoever gets it.:up:
jaymes_e06
08-12-2009, 09:25 PM
I wouldn't mind Jensen but there has got to be someone better doesn't there?
Triad
08-12-2009, 10:10 PM
I hope that there is.
The bottomline for me is I want this movie to have the perfect actor in the part. No matter who that is, I want him to embody the spirit of the character.
I hope it will be mostly faithful to the source material, nail-biting exciting, highly entertaining and an overall big success for Marvel.
Project862006
08-12-2009, 10:30 PM
age
acting experiance
all American look
height
good looking
mainstream/world wide appeal
Leading man quality
build
Chris Pine is the only choice mentioned with these qualities imo
jaymes_e06
08-12-2009, 10:36 PM
I could see it but he's on 6 foot. I'm 6 foot and I don't find myself that tall I think he would still have to where some platforms a la RDJ in IM.
Project862006
08-12-2009, 10:38 PM
he is same size as jensen and i keep seeing his name brought up lol
Wally West
08-12-2009, 10:40 PM
I could see it but he's on 6 foot. I'm 6 foot and I don't find myself that tall I think he would still have to where some platforms a la RDJ in IM.
That's fine by me. I'll take the right actor for the role wearing platforms anyday over a less talented actor who happens to be a couple of inches taller.
Blackman
08-13-2009, 12:58 AM
age
acting experiance
all American look
height
good looking
mainstream/world wide appeal
Leading man quality
build
Chris Pine is the only choice mentioned with these qualities imo
I agree Pine has all of those except build. Pine nowhere near has the Captain build he's skinny as hell. That could be changed though so thats not a big deal. Also he's not that tall but once again that can be changed
My problem is this, he doesn't seem that "tough" to me. I know orignally pre-serum Rogers isnt a tough guy he's kind of skinny, not really an all American hero guy. But after the serum it all changes, Pine reminds me of more what a pre serum Steve would be like and thats my problem with casting Pine. and he has a bit of a mush mouth
There are alot worse guys then Pine though so if he's chosen I wouldnt be mad
My only gripe with Ben McKenzie is his height.
damn I didnt even know he was 5'9. Still platforms would be bad. I dont thin that Cap is one of those roles where you NEED a naturally tall actor like Superman or Thor
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Back to your point Project862006 I think McKenzie fits alot of those. His role on the OC would help put butts in the seats so there is his mainstream appeal, but then again some people would be mad and be like"You cast a OC actor as Cap?? F*** this movie" but those people probaly wont be the majority. Also He has that all American look to me and he's a good actor
Check out SouthLAnd I think it's on Hulu
That's fine by me. I'll take the right actor for the role wearing platforms anyday over a less talented actor who happens to be a couple of inches taller.
I agree with you for the most part
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The biggest problem is having an actor who can be post serum and pre serum. The actor would have to get skinny to be like wimpy and almost sickly looking and then bulk up and be muscular another time in the production. Out of the Avengers solo films I definetly think that playing Steve Rogers/Captain America would be the hardest
jaymes_e06
08-13-2009, 01:10 AM
Ben McKensie I could totally see. I loved Southland but the hieght thing just ruins it for me. Pine seems to be the best choice but I still think there is someone we have yet to find that is even better for the role.
Grand Sophy
08-13-2009, 02:47 AM
Most of those actors didn't spend 12 years on T.V. shows not talked about and then get a big break.
Hah! You obviously didn't look at George Clooney's early bio.
I'm thinking is if [Ackles] was such a good actor he would have gotten bigger roles by now. Why has he been floating around on T.V. so long?
Probably because they keep offering him jobs. Doris Egan, who was a writer on Dark Angel, Smallville, Tru Calling, and is now on House, tells an amusing story (http://tightropegirl.livejournal.com/8725.html) of how she kept trying to recruit him for her shows. He's told his agent to not even tell him about offers he can't take. Honestly, I'd rather see him on 22 episodes of Supernatural than a 2 hour Captain America movie, if it was an either/or situation.
Snobbery against tv actors seems kind of outdated. Most up and coming movie actors nowadays cut their teeth on television roles first.
Spider-Fan83
08-13-2009, 05:42 AM
Hah! You obviously didn't look at George Clooney's early bio.
ya, but, he after those 12+ years of tv when he final got his big break in movies, he didn't jump straight into the lead of big summer blockbuster...
he did another 12+ of random movie roles, earing his dues
tamron
08-13-2009, 08:29 AM
ya, but, he after those 12+ years of tv when he final got his big break in movies, he didn't jump straight into the lead of big summer blockbuster...
he did another 12+ of random movie roles, earing his dues
Clooney's first big film role was Batman & Robin, which he shot while still on E.R. That film's quality not withstanding, it was certainly a summer tentpole type of film.
Brian Braddock
08-13-2009, 11:25 AM
You dont count From Dusk Till Dawn as Clooney's first big film role?
I mean, granted, it wasnt a summer tentpole movie but it wasnt exactly in indie that no-one ever saw either. It got quite a lot of hype being that it was Dr Ross' breakout film.
And I believe it was that which was shot when making E.R. He's gone on record about how tiring shooting both at the same time was.
I think he'd left the show by the time B&R came around.
EDIT:- after looking further, I apologise Tamron - he didnt leave ER until 1999.
Young Superman
08-13-2009, 11:30 AM
Teddy Sears for Captain America DANGIT!!!!!!
catintheengine
08-13-2009, 12:16 PM
Why has Ackles been 'stuck' on TV for so long?
Maybe he prefers it. That's a very real possibility.
Wally West
08-13-2009, 03:02 PM
The biggest problem is having an actor who can be post serum and pre serum. The actor would have to get skinny to be like wimpy and almost sickly looking and then bulk up and be muscular another time in the production. Out of the Avengers solo films I definetly think that playing Steve Rogers/Captain America would be the hardest
I get what you're saying, but the serum was used on Tim Roth in the TIH right. After the first few doses, he obviously had reached the penicle of human ability without showing signicant changes to his physique. But I guess, unlike Roth's character in TIH, Steve was not a soldier prior to taking the serum, so the changes might apear more drastic in his case.
catintheengine
08-13-2009, 03:41 PM
For that reason, I really wouldn't be unhappy if Rogers IS a soldier (at least for a short time) before he gets the serum.
I went with Garrett Hedlund. My top 5 is probably Hedlund, Phillipe, Gigandet, Pine, and Teddy Sears
Cereal you do realize that that war hero is a twenty-something, though right?
cerealkiller182
08-13-2009, 06:38 PM
Cereal you do realize that that war hero is a twenty-something, though right?
Of course I know that, but there isnt a single 20 something I think could handle the role so I dont really care how old hes supposed to be.
WillardNation
08-13-2009, 10:04 PM
For that reason, I really wouldn't be unhappy if Rogers IS a soldier (at least for a short time) before he gets the serum.
that wasn't the same serum
tamron
08-13-2009, 10:14 PM
You dont count From Dusk Till Dawn as Clooney's first big film role?
I mean, granted, it wasnt a summer tentpole movie but it wasnt exactly in indie that no-one ever saw either. It got quite a lot of hype being that it was Dr Ross' breakout film.
And I believe it was that which was shot when making E.R. He's gone on record about how tiring shooting both at the same time was.
I think he'd left the show by the time B&R came around.
EDIT:- after looking further, I apologise Tamron - he didnt leave ER until 1999.
I was posting off the top of my head. I thought B&R was prior to FDTD. I simply remembered B&R was filmed while Clooney was still on E.R. because George talks about doing double duty on the behind the scenes featurette on the B&R DVD.
bruce_kent
08-14-2009, 05:16 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_aL1uOzvhcNo/Rv04PR6SaeI/AAAAAAAAAIE/F18X2qMrzZo/s400/Chad.Michael.Murray_Danny.Rand.jpg
And Chad Michael Murray of One Tree Hill as Captain America?, In my opinion is better option than Ryan Atwood in the paper, there are also rumors that it might leave the series in the seventh season, also had a small appearance on Dawson's Creek as well that Jensen Ackles, and is an excellent dramatic actor, that actor is well known worldwide and is born in America
Bye
Gamma Goliath
08-14-2009, 07:11 PM
How's his size, voice and acting ability.
bruce_kent
08-14-2009, 07:47 PM
http://www.grrltv.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/michael-cassidy-zumalive712637cwnetworkwintertc.jpg
And the actor Michael Cassidy Smallville and canceled the series Privileged? After the onset of the cancellation of this series has no other projects mostly known, but is an excellent actor, and it might be a good choice for Captain America to interpret in the film The First Avenger of Joe Johnston, was also born in Oregon in United States
Bye
Kaboom
08-14-2009, 10:08 PM
Dylan Bruno
jaymes_e06
08-14-2009, 11:03 PM
How's his size, voice and acting ability.
Good, bad, and the worst.
aka Kal el
08-15-2009, 12:03 AM
I agree Pine has all of those except build. Pine nowhere near has the Captain build he's skinny as hell. That could be changed though so thats not a big deal. Also he's not that tall but once again that can be changed
My problem is this, he doesn't seem that "tough" to me. I know orignally pre-serum Rogers isnt a tough guy he's kind of skinny, not really an all American hero guy. But after the serum it all changes, Pine reminds me of more what a pre serum Steve would be like and thats my problem with casting Pine. and he has a bit of a mush mouth
There are alot worse guys then Pine though so if he's chosen I wouldnt be mad
damn I didnt even know he was 5'9. Still platforms would be bad. I dont thin that Cap is one of those roles where you NEED a naturally tall actor like Superman or Thor
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Back to your point Project862006 I think McKenzie fits alot of those. His role on the OC would help put butts in the seats so there is his mainstream appeal, but then again some people would be mad and be like"You cast a OC actor as Cap?? F*** this movie" but those people probaly wont be the majority. Also He has that all American look to me and he's a good actor
Check out SouthLAnd I think it's on Hulu
I agree with you for the most part
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The biggest problem is having an actor who can be post serum and pre serum. The actor would have to get skinny to be like wimpy and almost sickly looking and then bulk up and be muscular another time in the production. Out of the Avengers solo films I definetly think that playing Steve Rogers/Captain America would be the hardestage
acting experiance
all American look
height
good looking
mainstream/world wide appeal
Leading man quality
build
Love em or hate em this describes Paul Walker. Acting Experience (showed real range in Running Scared), All American look (really are we even going to argue this?) Height 6ft 3, **Mainstream Worldwide Appeal** The Fast and Furious franchise has made Paul Walker a household name around the world! Leading man quality, Build (already has a good frame just needs to bulk up a little) He also has the right voice. I finally saw GI JOE and I did not buy Tatum as Duke. When he called attention I thought someone step on a Chihuahua. Whether you like him or not Walker is a very likely candidate. I highly doubt Marvel is going to risk an unknown unless they are extremely confident and the fact that Walker has a successful franchise give or take is weighing heavily in his favor. Oh just one more little thing His fighting scenes in the movies lead to a passion for martial arts. He has studied various forms of Jujitsu, Taekwondo, Jeet Kune Do and Eskrima and Keysi . BTW Keysi was the technique Bale used in Batman. So here you have a bankable star that is already experienced in fighting techniques with proven BO results...Gee let me think :word:
jaymes_e06
08-15-2009, 02:03 AM
^Look at my avatar for reply to your statement....:dry:
I SEE SPIDEY
08-15-2009, 02:10 AM
Although he was pretty decent in Running Scared Paul Walker is a s**t actor who shouldn't be considered for anything.
He isn't perfect or good for Captain America because he just plan isn't a good actor.
catintheengine
08-15-2009, 09:50 AM
While Paul Walker isn't my first choice, or even my second, there are far worse choices out there for Cap.
Walker was pretty good in Pleasantville (even though that's a completely different style of movie from what CA would have to be), and he DOES have the all-American look.
I'm liking Teddy Sears more and more he's 6'3, 32 old enough to satisfy angry fanboys, looks young enough to portray the character's actual age he was frozen, and carry the franchise for a few years, has a good voice, a classic 1940's look to him and can act. Also noticeably younger than RDJ which I feel is an important dynamic between the two characters
http://i28.tinypic.com/2vcgen6.jpg
He's in pretty good shape, too. Warning Shirtless male :o
http://i25.tinypic.com/apfeo.jpg
Webhead2006
08-15-2009, 12:57 PM
I dont know this teddy's guy work but i do agree he has the right look to him.
echostation
08-15-2009, 01:26 PM
no ben mackenzie, chris carmack or that one tree hill loser... they all suck as actors, seriously ben mackenzie's acting skills are really quite crap, I've seen loads of OC and he just stands there like the dumbest sack of crap alive... way too much melodramatic overboard acting on these guys' parts and none of them have the right look besides being white and blond.
I'm liking this Teddy Sears option, he seems solid and definitely has the right look too.
Spider-Fan83
08-15-2009, 02:11 PM
as much as I would prefer a natural blonde hair, blue eyed actor for the role (probably more, so, them most)
I thinking were running low on choice that fit, within those limits, maybe it’s time to start thinking beyond the blonde hair...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_aL1uOzvhcNo/Rv04PR6SaeI/AAAAAAAAAIE/F18X2qMrzZo/s400/Chad.Michael.Murray_Danny.Rand.jpg
And Chad Michael Murray of One Tree Hill as Captain America?,
In my opinion is better option than Ryan Atwood in the paper, there are also rumors that it might leave the series in the seventh season, also had a small appearance on Dawson's Creek as well that Jensen Ackles, and is an excellent dramatic actor, that actor is well known worldwide and is born in America
Bye
http://www.grrltv.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/michael-cassidy-zumalive712637cwnetworkwintertc.jpg
And the actor Michael Cassidy Smallville and canceled the series Privileged?
After the onset of the cancellation of this series has no other projects mostly known, but is an excellent actor, and it might be a good choice for Captain America to interpret in the film The First Avenger of Joe Johnston, was also born in Oregon in United States
Bye
...hearing these suggestions, couldn't help, but, think of their dark haired co-stars like...
James Lafferty (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0480798/) (from, one tree hill)
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8320/jameslafferty.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/jameslafferty.jpg/)
Brian Hallisay (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1878999/) (from,Privileged)
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5446/photo001tim.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/photo001tim.jpg/])
...as also fitting the look, (maybe, even alil more so,) aside from the hair
(not that I am suggestion them, just using them as examples)
tamron
08-15-2009, 02:51 PM
Teddy Sears is definitely a contender, he has a lot of the criteria. I just wonder if he can carry a film. I have no doubt he could play off of Downey, Jackson, Norton, in an ensemble Avengers film, I just don't know if he could carry a solo Cap film.
donk70
08-15-2009, 03:03 PM
I believe that with a commodity as hot and appealing as Captain America, Marvel and the producers will want a bankable actor in the role. I know a lot of you don't care for Channing Tatum in the role, but thanks to GI Joe he is a bankable star with some clout. If they had to make a decision today, I feel they would go with Tatum.
Just my .02, of course.
Infinity9999x
08-15-2009, 03:18 PM
I believe that with a commodity as hot and appealing as Captain America, Marvel and the producers will want a bankable actor in the role. I know a lot of you don't care for Channing Tatum in the role, but thanks to GI Joe he is a bankable star with some clout. If they had to make a decision today, I feel they would go with Tatum.
Just my .02, of course.
I don't think GI Joe has given him any clout. It was slammed by the critics. It's doing moderately at the BO, but it's certainly not a huge hit.
donk70
08-15-2009, 03:31 PM
I don't think GI Joe has given him any clout. It was slammed by the critics. It's doing moderately at the BO, but it's certainly not a huge hit.
Maybe clout is a poor choice of words. But he has a recognizable name. From the direction that Marvel is going with the other Avengers (sans Thor, of course) they want a "star" in the lead role.
It's too bad Brad Pitt wasn't 10 years younger. He would be perfect.
Oh, and you might want to look again. GI Joe had one of the better August openings in recent years.
Infinity9999x
08-15-2009, 06:15 PM
Maybe clout is a poor choice of words. But he has a recognizable name. From the direction that Marvel is going with the other Avengers (sans Thor, of course) they want a "star" in the lead role.
It's too bad Brad Pitt wasn't 10 years younger. He would be perfect.
Oh, and you might want to look again. GI Joe had one of the better August openings in recent years.
I agree 100% with Pitt. Ten years ago he would have been perfect for Cap, and it helps that we know Pitt has the acting chops to do a good job.
And I'm just looking at the amount it's making. It's at about 149mil W.Wide right now. So I'm guessing it might pull Batman Begins numbers, but I'd bet against it. I doubt it's going to have the legs Begins did.
And I'm iffy on Tatum. He hasn't done anything that impresses me yet, though I haven't seen Joe (though I haven't heard good things), or Fighting.
Project862006
08-15-2009, 06:37 PM
yeah he was'nt good in joes very mediocre
Hurm...
08-15-2009, 07:06 PM
What are your thoughts on Bradley Cooper (The Hangover) for Captain America?
No thanks. I think the one character that he really fits is Ollie Queen/Green Arrow
WeaponXProject
08-15-2009, 07:37 PM
Hah! You obviously didn't look at George Clooney's early bio.
Probably because they keep offering him jobs. Doris Egan, who was a writer on Dark Angel, Smallville, Tru Calling, and is now on House, tells an amusing story (http://tightropegirl.livejournal.com/8725.html) of how she kept trying to recruit him for her shows. He's told his agent to not even tell him about offers he can't take. Honestly, I'd rather see him on 22 episodes of Supernatural than a 2 hour Captain America movie, if it was an either/or situation.
Snobbery against tv actors seems kind of outdated. Most up and coming movie actors nowadays cut their teeth on television roles first.
You obviously didn't look at the other actors early careers. Because a lot of them got off the ground seemingly right after their early start on T.V. and seriously you are comparing Jensen to them or just listing some of the biggest stars to make a bad point.
And focus on One actor, in Clooney, to prove your point who has had a rather up and down box office career when it comes to big movies. I mean I only like O, Brother Where Art Thou, Michael Clayton and the first hour of Dusk til Dawn. All his other performances are phoned in. His career is more about his charm and looks than movie roles. He is a big star but more of a big heart throb than a great actor like the rest of your list.
Back to Supernatural and Ackles, I really think he should stick with Supernatural and not Captain America, that I agree with. Literally I don't know what point you are making by saying he only does shows from one writer. I like the guy but he is 32 and not gone anywhere. That should be a hint that not many others want him. Looking forward to him in Resident Evil 4 though...:whatever: I've been pretty against him but like I've said, he can have a tryout for the role. I'd have not problem with that.
I'm sticking with Leo and Pine maybe a few other choices but I'm really not down with most the T.V. guys listed. Most haven't had convincing performances to lead Captain America.
Spider-Fan83
08-15-2009, 07:40 PM
I don't think GI Joe has given him any clout. It was slammed by the critics. It's doing moderately at the BO, but it's certainly not a huge hit.
farther more, idk if he'd even be interested in the role….
I don’t remember where, but, I heard this thing once about how he almost didn’t take the g.i.joe role cause, he thought it, “glorified war” (I guess he’s feeling all high a mighty on the war issue, since that, stop-loss, movie he did) of course after reading the script he realized it had nothing to do with real war lol
WeaponXProject
08-15-2009, 08:46 PM
farther more, idk if he'd even be interested in the role….
I don’t remember where, but, I heard this thing once about how he almost didn’t take the g.i.joe role cause, he thought it, “glorified war” (I guess he’s feeling all high a mighty on the war issue, since that, stop-loss, movie he did) of course after reading the script he realized it had nothing to do with real war lol
I think someone like him should be interested in any role to get that bad taste out of his mouth from the GIJoe movie. I mean it made Sienna Miller into a mindless sly hottie instead of showing some of her acting ability. It was just to silly to even get into.
Not to mention, Stop Loss sucked. I thought it had gotten really bad once the first 40 minutes were passed. Especially Phillippe in it. His accent was laughable and the film was directed poorly. Really shoved the theme in your face the whole time.
I wouldn't want Channing after GIJoe but I also don't think it is a movie to judge acting when seeing. Like Michael Bay movies. They are sooo hammy with bad dialogue and going scene to scene so quickly you can't get anything but a flat character.
Project862006
08-15-2009, 09:26 PM
sienna miller was good in gi joe actually imo one of the best performances
donk70
08-15-2009, 09:34 PM
sienna miller was good in gi joe actually imo one of the best performances
This isn't about GI Joe, it's about Cap
Take your derailing some place else
Webhead2006
08-15-2009, 09:44 PM
Well yea they probably want a bankable actor and its a smart idea for marvel to do it get more folks butts into the seats. But i doubt channing will do it. I believe i read an interview recently he said he didnt have an interest in the cap character.
donk70
08-15-2009, 09:58 PM
McConahay (sp?) has the build for it, but could he lose the Texas accent?
KatarHol
08-16-2009, 01:01 AM
I vote for Leo. He doesn't have the height,but he has the star power to match RDJ,he could bulk up fairly quickly and he has a good,bleeding heart earnest quality that Cap needs,he just lacks a strong voice,but i'm sure he could manage it and maybe surprise us,remember Robbie Benson in Beauty and the Beast?
I'd say the most perfect actor would be Will Smith if Cap didn't have WWII roots. He's got the build,height,charisma,and that wholesome "good" quality about him,but it wouldn't be realistic for WWII and i'm not a fan of switching races on characters.......Ripcord excepted.
Majik1387
08-16-2009, 01:05 AM
Both are terrible choices.
Blackman
08-16-2009, 01:07 AM
^^^who do you want as Cap
and I agree to no Leo
Majik1387
08-16-2009, 01:18 AM
I'm still all for Scott Porter over everyone else so far, but I wouldn't mind Jensen Ackles, Travis Van Winkle, or Chris Carmack if Porter couldn't take the role. I'm not quite for Channing Tatum, but I'm not anti-Tatum either. The rest of the poll are terrible suggestions honestly. The majority are way too old and/or look too old for what Marvel Studios seems to be going for in their movies.
I'm also not getting involved in any TV Actor < Movie Actor bull, since it's all really just a waste of time to me.
KatarHol
08-16-2009, 01:20 AM
What about Aaron Eckhart? He's got the look perfectly,is it set in stone that Cap is in his '20s?
Also,if you gave Mad Men star(something Hamm) blond hair,he's got a look that fits Cap also,hell,leave his hair black,it doesn't really matter as long as the character was right,he'll wear a mask mostly anyway.
Blackman
08-16-2009, 01:24 AM
I'm still all for Scott Porter over everyone else so far, but I wouldn't mind Jensen Ackles, Travis Van Winkle, or Chris Carmack if Porter couldn't take the role. I'm not quite for Channing Tatum, but I'm not anti-Tatum either. The rest of the poll are terrible suggestions honestly. The majority are way too old and/or look too old for what Marvel Studios seems to be going for in their movies.
I'm also not getting involved in any TV Actor < Movie Actor bull, since it's all really just a waste of time to me.
I agree
I SEE SPIDEY
08-16-2009, 01:28 AM
While Paul Walker isn't my first choice, or even my second, there are far worse choices out there for Cap.
Walker was pretty good in Pleasantville (even though that's a completely different style of movie from what CA would have to be), and he DOES have the all-American look.That was a very simple role any blond pretty boy could have pulled it off.
And yeah he looks good...it's to bad he makes Keanu Reeves look like a young Robert Deniro and I actually like Reeves but even I know he isn't a terribly wonderful actor.
Also if Tatum is a big star after GI JOE then Chris Pine and Bradly Cooper must be the biggest stars in the world right now.
Compi716
08-16-2009, 01:29 AM
I'm liking Teddy Sears more and more he's 6'3, 32 old enough to satisfy angry fanboys, looks young enough to portray the character's actual age he was frozen, and carry the franchise for a few years, has a good voice, a classic 1940's look to him and can act. Also noticeably younger than RDJ which I feel is an important dynamic between the two characters
http://i28.tinypic.com/2vcgen6.jpg
The only face suggested that actually makes me think Steve Rogers. Well done.
Blackman
08-16-2009, 01:30 AM
Walker is a bad actor to me very wooden. He seems uncomfortable at least in what Ive seen him in
Majik1387
08-16-2009, 01:32 AM
What about Aaron Eckhart? He's got the look perfectly,is it set in stone that Cap is in his '20s?
Also,if you gave Mad Men star(something Hamm) blond hair,he's got a look that fits Cap also,hell,leave his hair black,it doesn't really matter as long as the character was right,he'll wear a mask mostly anyway.
I honestly don't care much for Eckhart, and neither did anyone else pre-TDK. He's an alright actor, but I don't know, I'm just not much of a fan.
Jon Hamm is also too old for the role and he looks it. Not much of a fan of him as an actor either.
I'm not discounting any actors because of the wrong hair color. With a good hair and makeup team on crew, there are wigs and dye jobs for that.
And sure he'll wear a mask most of the time, but that's a lame excuse really, especially when considering there are actors out there who don't need to use that excuse.
Teddy Sears has a good look, but I don't know about his acting as I apparently have only seen him in a Dollhouse and a Samantha Who? episode.
edit: I apparently also seen him on Ugly Betty.
I SEE SPIDEY
08-16-2009, 01:33 AM
Teddy Sears is actually pretty good on Raising the Bar, he plays one of my favorite characters on the show.
Blackman
08-16-2009, 01:35 AM
Eckhart was good in Thank You for Smoking
but still I dont want to see him as Cap
Majik1387
08-16-2009, 01:37 AM
Eckhart was good in Thank You for Smoking
but still I dont want to see him as Cap
I agree, and again, I'm not saying he can't act, I'm just not a fan, and no one here really advocated him for anything before TDK, and now his name is being thrown around almost as much as Jolie's.
Grand Sophy
08-16-2009, 01:52 AM
You obviously didn't look at the other actors early careers...
Literally I don't know what point you are making by saying he only does shows from one writer... Looking forward to him in Resident Evil 4 though...
That wasn't a triumphant "Hah", that was a hah of amusement, because I'm old enough to remember when George Clooney was considered a show killer. He kept being recast despite his record of failure because the producers saw something in him, a charisma that goes beyond being a competent actor. It's hard to predict who will have that on the big screen (I'm guessing that's what you meant by the presence needed for the role), but I do think Clooney has that star quality. (ETA I'm not suggesting him for Cap, though.)
You may have misunderstood the article. Doris Egan fought to hire Ackles for a first season episode of Dark Angel. She then moved on to Smallville, where she tried to hire him again but couldn't because he'd been hired for the second season of Dark Angel. She moved on to Tru Calling, and wanted him for the male lead, but couldn't get him because he'd just been hired by--Smallville. His two year contract there was cut short because the WB wanted him for Supernatural. He's always been in demand, he just seems to prefer the steady work provided by television.
Don't believe everything on IMDB. Ackles said this summer that he hasn't been cast in or even approached for Resident Evil 4, although the rumour's been floating around for ages.
Blackman
08-16-2009, 01:52 AM
When does Cap even start shooting?
Depending on the shooting my top choice and others might be out
Grand Sophy
08-16-2009, 02:01 AM
When does Cap even start shooting? Next summer.
Aesop Rocks
08-16-2009, 03:04 AM
I'm liking Teddy Sears more and more he's 6'3, 32 old enough to satisfy angry fanboys, looks young enough to portray the character's actual age he was frozen, and carry the franchise for a few years, has a good voice, a classic 1940's look to him and can act. Also noticeably younger than RDJ which I feel is an important dynamic between the two characters
http://i28.tinypic.com/2vcgen6.jpg
This. Win.
chris moore
08-16-2009, 06:14 AM
I like that difference in his looks. Almost 40's style and modern. Could be good for his transition to modern times. LIke he looks like the pic on the left up until the point he wakes up in modern times (whichever movie they do that in), then as a part in helping him adjust, whoever does the helping takes him to get some of the 40's feel styled out of him - to help him fit in more. Good excuse for some funny moments there with his discomfort at his being offered highlights or something when its being cut.
Keyser Soze
08-16-2009, 09:43 AM
It's strange that both Green Lantern and Thor have been cast, but we haven't even heard any real rumors about Captain America casting yet. I hope things get moving soon.
Carlo Comicus
08-16-2009, 10:25 AM
Don't believe everything on IMDB. Ackles said this summer that he hasn't been cast in or even approached for Resident Evil 4, although the rumour's been floating around for ages.
I'm agree. Ackles only win a Geek Files poll on the possible actor who could play Cap. Nothing more. And recently, him and co-star Padalecki revealed they will return for a sixth season of Supernatural.
Carlo Comicus
08-16-2009, 10:26 AM
We will wait until October for an official announce.
It's strange that both Green Lantern and Thor have been cast, but we haven't even heard any real rumors about Captain America casting yet. I hope things get moving soon.
I don't think Cap needs nearly as much post as those two, it's just gunfire, acrobatics, explosions etc. I'm not worried they've been saying October. We'll start to get rumors then.
I agree, and again, I'm not saying he can't act, I'm just not a fan, and no one here really advocated him for anything before TDK, and now his name is being thrown around almost as much as Jolie's.
He was my choice for Ollie pre TDK
Webhead2006
08-16-2009, 01:53 PM
well the reason we havent had much news on cap is first it doesnt go into production to next summer june or july i believe. Plus joe johnston the director has been busy finishing up on his wolfman movie. So he really hasnt had the time yet to start preping cap.
Wally West
08-16-2009, 02:35 PM
well the reason we havent had much news on cap is first it doesnt go into production to next summer june or july i believe. Plus joe johnston the director has been busy finishing up on his wolfman movie. So he really hasnt had the time yet to start preping cap.
I thought I read something recently stating that The Wolfman was supposed to be out this fall, and has been pushed back until Feb. I hope he gets that film wrapped and taken care of soon so he can get busy with Cap. I also read an interview with Chris Pine recently where he said that the Star Trek sequel was aiming for a 2011 release. If they don't get the ball rolling soon there are going to be a lot of actors out of contention due to other commitments.
Carlo Comicus
08-16-2009, 03:14 PM
I thought I read something recently stating that The Wolfman was supposed to be out this fall, and has been pushed back until Feb.
Yes, maybe for some negative screen test or "too much terrific screen test". Is not confirmed. I hope is the 2nd option.
Wally West
08-16-2009, 03:41 PM
Yes, maybe for some negative screen test or "too much terrific screen test". Is not confirmed. I hope is the 2nd option.
I just checked into it and the official website for The Wolfman has the release date set at Feb 12th. (I'm hoping it turns out for the best too btw)
Hopefully Joe will have enough completed on the project before then that he can at least take a break to get some of the important casting out of the way for CA. I'd hate to see it reach the point where it's no longer a matter of chosing the best actor for the role and becomes a matter of chosing the best actor still available.
Project862006
08-16-2009, 05:54 PM
wow i think Teddy Sears is perfect for cap
Webhead2006
08-16-2009, 09:22 PM
Yea i am sure joe and his producers/etc..... will be able to find the best suited actors for their roles.
aka Kal el
08-16-2009, 09:44 PM
Yes, maybe for some negative screen test or "too much terrific screen test". Is not confirmed. I hope is the 2nd option.
Unfortunately it is the first all the rest is just spin. Reminds me of a little movie about windmills starring Johnny Depp and may have suffer the same fate.:word:
catintheengine
08-16-2009, 11:01 PM
What about Aaron Staton?
I honestly don't care much for Eckhart, and neither did anyone else pre-TDK. He's an alright actor, but I don't know, I'm just not much of a fan.
Jon Hamm is also too old for the role and he looks it. Not much of a fan of him as an actor either.
I'm not discounting any actors because of the wrong hair color. With a good hair and makeup team on crew, there are wigs and dye jobs for that.
And sure he'll wear a mask most of the time, but that's a lame excuse really, especially when considering there are actors out there who don't need to use that excuse.
Teddy Sears has a good look, but I don't know about his acting as I apparently have only seen him in a Dollhouse and a Samantha Who? episode.
edit: I apparently also seen him on Ugly Betty.
He was in the episode where the Dolls "woke up" he played Mike. You should check him out on Raising the Bar
Triad
08-17-2009, 11:09 AM
Sears looks like a contender. He does have the acting ability & the look, IMHO. But as with many of our choices, he will need to bulk up for the role if he was to get it. (Does that go without saying?)
Brian Braddock
08-17-2009, 12:23 PM
I reckon it's certainly an advantage for an actor to already have a decent body from which to build on in order to get in 'Cap' shape.
Judging by those pics I'd say Sears is no stranger to a dumbbell or cardio.
I highly doubt that Teddy Sears or Jensen Ackles will be cast as Cap. From what we've heard, the actor will be American and a house hold name. My guess is they will mess with cap's origin and make him older to start and go with someone like Matthew McConaughey or (and I hate to say it) Paul Walker. Both have helmed box office hits before and are recognizable to the GA.
As much as I would love Ackles or McPartlin... I fear that we will get someone more famous and less talented :D
My bet would be Leo. Sears is my preferred choice at the moment, though.
donk70
08-17-2009, 02:02 PM
I would think Leo needs alot of work. He looks too soft in my opinion
ChinoXL
08-17-2009, 03:14 PM
I highly doubt that Teddy Sears or Jensen Ackles will be cast as Cap. From what we've heard, the actor will be American and a house hold name. My guess is they will mess with cap's origin and make him older to start and go with someone like Matthew McConaughey or (and I hate to say it) Paul Walker. Both have helmed box office hits before and are recognizable to the GA.
As much as I would love Ackles or McPartlin... I fear that we will get someone more famous and less talented :D
I would not be surprised one bit if they chose Matthew McConaughey
ChinoXL
08-17-2009, 03:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpJOgXhBLaA
Not to mention he has a badass voice in Reign of Fire (just trying to look at the good points) I really liked him in that movie
Brian Braddock
08-17-2009, 03:39 PM
He was fantastically badass in 'Reign of Fire'; 'Frailty' too.
I'm not his biggest fan but I wouldnt be as upset as some on here if he were cast. I mean, I can see downsides to it bit I can also see the upsides too.
At the moment, the pros outweigh the cons; I could certainly see why Marvel would go for him too, given that he's an established international movie star with undoubted name recognition.
He'd have to work on the accent though,
Brian Braddock
08-17-2009, 03:42 PM
I would think Leo needs alot of work. He looks too soft in my opinion
Your'e not kidding - have you seen the recent photos of Leo partying in Ibiza?
To say he looks a little 'dough-ey' at the moment would be an understatement.
jaymes_e06
08-17-2009, 03:53 PM
Why are people ragging on MM so much? Has no one seen A Time to Kill? I think he's been doing a lot of fluff films lately that don't involve a great deal of acting ability but when he is challenged he usually does a great job. Contact he did good too.
jaymes_e06
08-17-2009, 03:53 PM
Why are people ragging on MM so much? Has no one seen A Time to Kill? I think he's been doing a lot of fluff films lately that don't involve a great deal of acting ability but when he is challenged he usually does a great job. Contact he did good too.
Your'e not kidding - have you seen the recent photos of Leo partying in Ibiza?
To say he looks a little 'dough-ey' at the moment would be an understatement.
He can get in shape, and you can't deny that he is an international star that would help sell the film world wide. No one can question his acting, either.
Brian Braddock
08-17-2009, 04:10 PM
Why are people ragging on MM so much? Has no one seen A Time to Kill? I think he's been doing a lot of fluff films lately that don't involve a great deal of acting ability but when he is challenged he usually does a great job. Contact he did good too.
I think that's the reason;
He's been blessed with looks, charisma and talent but he's so damned lazy as an actor when choosing projects. I think that's were his bad rep comes from.
I gree when he's challenged he produces the goods - Cap could be such a challenge.
Brian Braddock
08-17-2009, 04:15 PM
He can get in shape, and you can't deny that he is an international star that would help sell the film world wide. No one can question his acting, either.
Oh certainly, none of thats in doubt as far as I'm concerned - but just how good a shape can he get into?
It's all well and good saying that anyone can get in shape, but certain people have more limitations than others. All the nutrients, supplements, best trainers and gyms that money can buy are worthless if you dont have the right ingredients to start with.
Some of the guys mentioned on here clearly have the edge on him, genetics-wise. They'd be able to acheive a shape that approximates something resemling a super-soldier better imo.
I agree everyone has their own unique body type and easier for some to bulk up then others. I'm just sayig he fits the bill for international star. Though, I'll give more credit to that statement when we hear it from the director.
Webhead2006
08-17-2009, 04:28 PM
YEa i got nothing bad to say about MM i do agree with all that he is good actor, has good charm, and can get a good body for the role. If he was picked i hope joe would make him do a kick butt performance and not be a lazy/phoned in type some folks say about some of his films. Yes we know they being marvel wants someone who is american and is known to some degree casting hasnt even started yet and we dont know for sure how things might go. Maybe they will look at a few big names they test and marvel/joe dont like what they see, so then some lesser knowns like ackles/spears could be tested, and then if those semi knowns are not liked they could go to full unknowns.
Blackman
08-17-2009, 04:41 PM
whose MM? Matthew McConaughey?
If thats it hes alright. Ive only seen him in Tropic Thunder which he was hilarious in and We Are Marshall which he was good in
Cant really see him as Cap tho doesnt seem like the type if you understand what Im saying.
On another note: Ive been looking for the Justice League Mortal script and I stumbled up a photo of Armie Hammer who Ive nvr seen before and I was like "Damn, he doesnt look like Batman, but he really looks like Steve Rogers/Captain America" he's the right age too. The only problem is Ive nvr seen him act. Can anybody vouch for his acting or recommend some good stuff hes been in
TheDarkKnight08
08-17-2009, 04:45 PM
My votes on Patrick Wilson. Great actor, definitely with experience, and he can rock a super-hero suit (see Watchmen)
http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/Mionne02/Patrick%20Wilson/8.jpg
Brian Braddock
08-17-2009, 04:46 PM
Reign of Fire might be an eye-opener for you then, Blackman.
a Cockney Christian Bale and a badass military man loon Matthew McConaughey vs Dragons.
The films not great or anything but there are some aspects make for good viewing.
jaymes_e06
08-17-2009, 04:48 PM
My votes on Patrick Wilson. Great actor, definitely with experience, and he can rock a super-hero suit (see Watchmen)
http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/Mionne02/Patrick%20Wilson/8.jpg
Hmmm... Never thought of him. He might work actually.
Majik1387
08-17-2009, 04:55 PM
:facepalm to these past couple of posts.
Brian Braddock
08-17-2009, 05:06 PM
Elaborate please.
Brian Braddock
08-17-2009, 05:10 PM
Anyways, isnt the use of the :facepalm a bit, well, :facepalm nowadays?
:oldrazz:
Majik1387
08-17-2009, 05:21 PM
Seeing as it's the only time I've used that face palm thing, I think it's a perfect use of it.
MM cannot act. Plain and simple. I'll agree he's a performer, but an actor? No.
Everyone keeps saying Reign of Fire and Frailty, in which he was no more than decent.
I've yet to see A Time to Kill, but seeing the plot and the rest of the cast, I have a feeling I'd be more impressed with the ensemble than him.
Leo is overrated as hell, too old, and he looks it.
Wilson, while I like as an actor, is past his prime for CA. And that pic posted just proves it.
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