The Ultimate DC/Marvel Tournament

[PaleRider]

yup gotta go with the crowd and say BP

[Genesis 1.0]

Heh, how many times must a good character, or at least a tough one, be doomed for it's meager intelligence? Rhino, Electro, Sandman, Absorbing Man, and the list goes on. Idiots all and capable of so much damage.

Croc's wily enough to have fooled Batman's superior intelligence on more than one occassion because in the end, animal instinct has more than a fair shot of upsetting the logical mind.

I say Croc surprises Panther at the outset and manages to score a knockout victory fairly quickly because that's his only real avenue of victory and because I have a soft spot for idjits.

Why else do I keep Anubis around?

Croc


7-1 Black Panther

[Ace of Knaves]

I see your logic there Gen. Cros isn't clever, he isn't a great tactician and all that. But, he has that raw animal instinct that has seen crocodiles survive since the days of the dinosaurs.

Having said that, I think T'Challa's versatility and adaptability see's him through. He's clever enough to realize taking Croc head on is gonna end bad for him every time. He'll know in his mind that if he gets close to Croc, he lets Croc get a hold of him, it's game over. And he has the agility and reflexes to not allow that to happen.

[Hound55]

If its the Croc I saw in Batman: Gotham Knight or a few other versions I'd go with him to beat T'Challa...

And BP ain't Bats in terms of intelligence... even with the tech.

[Genesis 1.0]

T'Challa's pretty f'n smart, a genuis in many fields as a matter of fact.

Bruce is no Reed Richards now.....

8-2 Black Panther

[Hound55]

Different kinds of smart though...

Reed's more science smart than Bruce but I'd give it to Bruce in field strategy.

Agreed that T'Challa is a smart cookie though.

[Silicon Surfer]

Black Panther's speed should enable him to avoid attacks long enough to find a way to win.

[CanaryFan]

T'Challa

[Docker2.0]

If its the Croc I saw in Batman: Gotham Knight or a few other versions I'd go with him to beat T'Challa...

And BP ain't Bats in terms of intelligence... even with the tech.

You don't know BP at all then. He invented prep time.

BP in minutes.

[Hound55]

Poorly worded on my part.

Even with BP's technological prowess, he's not as intelligent in handling situations.

Wasn't meaning down the prep-time path. Bats thinks on his feet better in my opinion than BP. Dude never stops thinking, ultimate cool head.

[Docker2.0]

Honestly, that's debatable, maybe even a match up one day if Genesis ever listens to people who pm's him fights! :argh:

[Harlekin]

Poorly worded on my part.

Even with BP's technological prowess, he's not as intelligent in handling situations.

Wasn't meaning down the prep-time path. Bats thinks on his feet better in my opinion than BP. Dude never stops thinking, ultimate cool head.
Have you read any Black Panther comics? He's intelligent and quick on the fly. That's pretty much his thing.

[Johnny Blaze]

Yeah, T'Challa's pretty much Marvel's Batman in terms of prep time and strategizing and such.
Dude's got contingency plans even for Galactus for ****'s sake.

[Genesis 1.0]

Honestly, that's debatable, maybe even a match up one day if Genesis ever listens to people who pm's him fights! :argh:

Yeah, I do listen to requests bro but Spider-Man / Batman was a tad too uneven. Just so you know I bothered, I even screened it through a few others and it was a definite no-go.

I HATE throwing down one sided matches.:cmad:

Send me a few off the top of your head and if they'e feasible, I'll gladly throw them out there as I have for alot of these other bums you see posting.:awesome:

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I'm sure Hound would like to take back that comment, now he's got an avalanche of crow to deal with.



You ever seen a Wakandan Kin wearing a pair of Crocs made of an actual metahuman's flesh? Well you have now as Marvel's Dark Knight brutally beats the mighty Croc 12-2. http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/733/gunsmiley.png

[Genesis 1.0]

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Gorilla Grodd

VS

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Psylocke


{{{Requested Match}}}

[SuperFerret]

Grodd.

[Silicon Surfer]

Grodd

[Genesis 1.0]

You do know that Psylocke is immune to telepathy, right?

That cuts out a major portion of Grodd's offense, in addition she has her telepathy and TK which means Psychic Knife AND TK Katana.

Grodd's still smarter and stronger but I'd say he's going to have enough to deal with just trying to defend himself against Betsy and then you throw in her screwing with him with telepathy and contesting TK and it's a wrap.

Psylocke

2-1 Grodd

[SuperFerret]

Is immunity to telepathy a ninja power or something? Since when does she have this, and why did anyone think that it's a good idea? Grodd's telepathy should help him resist hers and she's not immune to being beaten to death anyway.

[Silicon Surfer]

Grodd's own telepathy is immense and would completely negate anything Psylocke can do telepathically. Grodd also has high level telekinesis and some matter manipulation.

[SuperFerret]

He's also a gorilla, and we all know that talking gorilla tyrants > transracial mutant ninjas.

[Genesis 1.0]

Is immunity to telepathy a ninja power or something? Since when does she have this, and why did anyone think that it's a good idea? Grodd's telepathy should help him resist hers and she's not immune to being beaten to death anyway.

lawls SF is Hulking up again about character upgrades.:awesome:

To answer you, she's gained this since her rebirth in her new body. She's immune to telepathy and yet has regained her own telepathy from years back which has proven considerable enough to hold Emma back.

So Grodd's not going to touch her mind. As to beating her to death, there have been FAR stronger an faster guys than Grodd that have tried and failed miserably. A TK katana or Psychic Knife to Grodd's body, especially his head, will drop him like anyone else.

Grodd's own telepathy is immense and would completely negate anything Psylocke can do telepathically. Grodd also has high level telekinesis and some matter manipulation.

Man, you REALLY need to preface statements like this with an 'I think' or 'Should' otherwie people might get the impression you're spouting facts instead of your opinion of how the fight would go down.:cwink:

As to him negting Betsy, that's rather wishful thinking in the extreme or willfully ignoring another known telepathic & telekenetic threat. Betsy's got the edge of forcing Grodd to defend himself on both fronts while he only has the physical.

Betsy's psychic shields have withstood the likes of the White Queen so don't go slapping the 'END' sticker on the encounter without exploring the actual possibilities. In addition, she's one of the longest standing and adept TK users in the MU, again writing her off is shortsighted at best.

As to matter manipulation, she's shown immunity to magical and physical alteration as well as mental, so.......yeah.:o

While she on the other hand can still use her TK to rearrange matter and her Katana can cut through ANYTHING.

In closing, Betsy's age old 'TK that can shatter mountains' has been proven since like, last year when Marvel Girl said Psylocke's TK was beyond her own.:wow: :awesome:

2-1 Gorilla Grodd


Oh man, I went surfing and apparently Betsy can now make herself Invisible as well as the answer to your question Ferret, Jamie moified the structure of her new body to make her immune to all these things listed earlier.

[SuperFerret]

Is it any wonder why I can't stand 90% of the X-stuff?

[Genesis 1.0]

Heh, surprised you took it so well.

In light of all this, where's Grodd's avenue for victory? You cast that vote before you found out that Psylocke had become a Mutant god. :o

[SuperFerret]

Apply liberal amounts of feces and superstrength.

[Genesis 1.0]

Which she'd transform into stinky butterflies. :)

[Silicon Surfer]

Grodd has proven strong enough to telepathically out power Captain Comet who has himself controlled thousands of minds simultaneously. He has also mind controlled all of Gorilla City. Each of the gorillas in Gorilla City is a super intelligent telepath. I can't think of anything any Marvel telepath has done that rivals this except perhaps Moondragon's supposed controlling of an entire planet which occurred "off camera" AFAIK. While Grodds telekinetic feats are few and the only one I have personally seen is his transformation of a human body into his gorilla body, his telepathic feats are at least the equal and probably superior to anything I have seen Nate Grey accomplish. Xavier has had trouble controlling a single non telepathic mind completely, Grodd has controlled all of Gorilla City whose population I don't know but probably numbers in the hundreds if not the thousands. Grodd is one of the two or three strongest telepaths in the DCU with only Despero and possibly the Shark to rival him.

[Anubis]

Well if she's a mutant God all of a sudden, doesn't that make this one of those one sided matches you were talkin' about? :o

[Genesis 1.0]

1.) It's a HELL of alot closer than Spidey / Batman.

2.) I hadn't researche all of Betsy's new upgrades.

3.) There are obviously still arguments to balance the match which stands in the lesser's favor. There's alot of matches I think are easy but throw them out and it goes in a completely different direction. As long as it's somewhat feasible.


Surfer, so you'e honestly comparing Grodd to Nate Grey?

I won't even go there.

[Docker2.0]

Yeah, I do listen to requests bro but Spider-Man / Batman was a tad too uneven. Just so you know I bothered, I even screened it through a few others and it was a definite no-go.

I HATE throwing down one sided matches.:cmad:

Send me a few off the top of your head and if they'e feasible, I'll gladly throw them out there as I have for alot of these other bums you see posting.:awesome:

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I'm sure Hound would like to take back that comment, now he's got an avalanche of crow to deal with.



You ever seen a Wakandan Kin wearing a pair of Crocs made of an actual metahuman's flesh? Well you have now as Marvel's Dark Knight brutally beats the mighty Croc 12-2. http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/733/gunsmiley.png

Batman and Spiderman isn't an uneven fight. I mean it is, but it's Batman. Dude beat Amazo and other super powered guys. PS-you'd be surprised how many votes Bats would get against him.


Oh! Gorilla Grodd gets my vote. See Louie! That's 3 DC in a row I voted for.

[Genesis 1.0]

See Anubis? These Grodd votes are mystifying in the face of the powers of Psylocke.

You never know what's going to go down even when it seems reasonable.

3-1 Grodd

[SuperFerret]

It seems reasonable to me that a vicious, bloodthirsty psychic ape with genius level intelligence isn't the pushover you're making him out to be.

[Genesis 1.0]

Pushover? Are you a pushover to lose in the face of greater power? I think not.

Where did I say this would be over lickity split? Invisible ink?

I also find it interesting that because Surfer supports your ballot, you don't contest his presumptions which actually DO make Betsy sound a pushover.

Funny how that goes, 'eh? Sweet irony or bitter hypocrisy.

[Docker2.0]

I like Psylocke but I just don't see her winning this fight.

[SuperFerret]

I wasn't talking to Surfer, so I wasn't reading his posts.

[Anubis]

I tend to forgive the Surfer due to fact that his knowledge on these characters tends to peek somewhere around the 70's/early 80's. You know, before that acid he took blew out his mind. :o

I don't know. Never heard of this Mutie God Psylocke, of course I stopped reading Clairmont after Extreme X-Men, and lord knows the bull s**t he's come up with since then in his senility. So, I'll go with Grodd cuz, when all else fails, you can't beat an ape with super strength that eats people.

[Docker2.0]

I tend to forgive the Surfer due to fact that his knowledge on these characters tends to peek somewhere around the 70's/early 80's. You know, before that acid he took blew out his mind. :o

I don't know. Never heard of this Mutie God Psylocke, of course I stopped reading Clairmont after Extreme X-Men, and lord knows the bull s**t he's come up with since then in his senility. So, I'll go with Grodd cuz, when all else fails, you can't beat an ape with super strength that eats people.

Mutie? C'mon man, that's racist. :dry:

[Anubis]

I'm a Mutie too, so, it's okay for me to say it.

[Hound55]

Betsy.

She's immune to Grodd's primary attack/defence, so it essntially comes down to hot, ninja chick in cut-away clothing vs a gorilla's raw strength.

[SuperFerret]

Betsy.

She's immune to Grodd's primary attack/defence, so it essntially comes down to hot, ninja chick in cut-away clothing vs a gorilla's raw strength.

How does that come up in her favor?

[Docker2.0]

And speed. I think people focus so much on gorilla's strength, they forget just how fast they are. Either way, she ain't walking away from this fight.

[Anubis]

He's also stronger than your average Gorilla. Like A Gorilla's strength, amped up to Captain America levels......for an ape.

[SuperFerret]

Yeah, and he's smart. Doesn't he also eat humans?

[Anubis]

That too. He's Hannibal Lecter....if he were a telepathic ape with super strength.

[SuperFerret]

Well, not really. Lecter was a cannibal, Grodd's just a carnivore, which is odd for a gorilla.

[Anubis]

But apes and humans are cousins, so technically, eating monkey's brains is cannibalism, also, I totally heard he ate an ape too. :o

[SuperFerret]

Cannibalism is eating your own species, so eating monkeys and apes is okay (though you might catch something).

[Silicon Surfer]

Grodd is strong enough to have survived a blow from the Flash that sent him into another state. That would put him into the class 100 range at the very least.

[Anubis]

In durability? Yeah. Actual strength does not equal invulnerability, but yeah, you're right. He's certainly durable enough to have survived a punch that started in Vegas and connected in Kansas.

[Infinity9999x]

Batman and Spiderman isn't an uneven fight. I mean it is, but it's Batman. Dude beat Amazo and other super powered guys. PS-you'd be surprised how many votes Bats would get against him.


Oh! Gorilla Grodd gets my vote. See Louie! That's 3 DC in a row I voted for.

And that's absolutely horrible writing.

[Genesis 1.0]

I tend to forgive the Surfer due to fact that his knowledge on these characters tends to peek somewhere around the 70's/early 80's. You know, before that acid he took blew out his mind. :o

I don't know. Never heard of this Mutie God Psylocke, of course I stopped reading Clairmont after Extreme X-Men, and lord knows the bull s**t he's come up with since then in his senility. So, I'll go with Grodd cuz, when all else fails, you can't beat an ape with super strength that eats people.

From the looks of it, he passed it around before his last dose.:awesome:

Hound: Yeah, that's what it comes to with the Gorilla befret of his greatest weapon. Usually people tell you brute strength alone isn't enough in the face of greater and more versatile power.

Unless it's Bubbles the Chimp here.


5-2 Gorilla Grodd

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Psylocke

[Ace of Knaves]

Grodd

[Majic Walrus]

She's immune to Grodd's primary attack/defence, so it essntially comes down to hot, ninja chick in cut-away clothing vs a gorilla's raw strength.


Exactly. Grodd wins.

[Genesis 1.0]

A highly trained veteran psychic with TK greater than than the scion of Phoenix is losing to Gorilla Grodd.

Wow. Just wow.

6-3 Gorilla F'N Grodd

[The_Mighty_Thor]

What's this monkey business about Grodd winning?

[Genesis 1.0]

HA!

I see what you're doing there with your humor and your shining wit. :o

[PemLam]

Psylocke

[CanaryFan]

Betsy

[Lobo]

Betsy

[Genesis 1.0]

Guess I'm not the only sane one around here.

6-6 TIE

[Docker2.0]

What a freakin come back! :wow:

[Silicon Surfer]

Guess I'm not the only insane one around here.

6-6 TIE

true

[PaleRider]

I'll sit this one out. My gut vote was Grodd but I didn't know all the changes to Psylocke, they sound kind of dumb but since I haven't kept up on them I will not vote.

[Ace of Knaves]

Guess I'm not the only sane one around here.

6-6 TIE

Are you discriminating against the insane, sir?

What a freakin come back! :wow:

Maaaaaan...**** Psylocke and her stupid power increase. Grodd still flings giant craps at her.

[Hound55]

Grodd still flings giant craps at her.
That's pretty much what I can see him resorting to in this one...

[Ace of Knaves]

Those giant craps are quite heavy, and Psylocke is a puny human durability wise.

[Ace of Knaves]

Those giant craps are quite heavy, and Psylocke is a puny human durability wise.

[Hound55]

Those giant craps are quite heavy, and Psylocke is a puny human durability wise.
Give him enough prep-tim and he'll "fibre-up" for the event...

[Ace of Knaves]

Haha exactly. He'll get on a hearty diet of granary bread and wheat-a-bix :up:

[Chunin]

Psylocke

[Genesis 1.0]

true

The only thing insane is you comparing Bubbles the Mentalist to Nate F'N Grey.:doh:


Gorilla Grodd showcased his mental powers by putting normal sensible people under his control and forcing them to do the horrific but in the end it wasn't enough to defeat the mountain shattering telekenetic might of Psylocke as he falls to her Psychich Knife 7-6.

[Docker2.0]

Are you discriminating against the insane, sir?



Maaaaaan...**** Psylocke and her stupid power increase. Grodd still flings giant craps at her.

I was thinking it was classic Psylocke, though I didn't know she had an upgrade. Tell me about this crazy upgrade she has.............I haven't read the X-men in years.

[Ace of Knaves]

Neither have I really. And her stupid upgrade is a testament to why I don't read the X books. It was explained on the last page I think. But basically, she now has the power of Nate Grey.

[Genesis 1.0]

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The Avengers: Namor, Bucky, Captain America, Iron Man, Wolverine, Luke Cage, Torches, Wasp, Spider-Man, Spier-Woman, & Ms. Marvel

VS

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The Justice League of America: Geo Force, Wonder Woman, Batman, Red Arrow, Black Canary, Red Tornado, Vixen, Green Lantern, & Hawkwoman

[Genesis 1.0]

Having Dinah & Stewart = Extra 2, so no b*tching. :o

0-0

[Ace of Knaves]

OHHHHHHH! Great fight.

Imma go with the Avengers.

[PemLam]

Jla

[Genesis 1.0]

lawls SF is Hulking up again about character upgrades.:awesome:

To answer you, she's gained this since her rebirth in her new body. She's immune to telepathy and yet has regained her own telepathy from years back which has proven considerable enough to hold Emma back.

So Grodd's not going to touch her mind. As to beating her to death, there have been FAR stronger an faster guys than Grodd that have tried and failed miserably. A TK katana or Psychic Knife to Grodd's body, especially his head, will drop him like anyone else.



Man, you REALLY need to preface statements like this with an 'I think' or 'Should' otherwie people might get the impression you're spouting facts instead of your opinion of how the fight would go down.:cwink:

As to him negting Betsy, that's rather wishful thinking in the extreme or willfully ignoring another known telepathic & telekenetic threat. Betsy's got the edge of forcing Grodd to defend himself on both fronts while he only has the physical.

Betsy's psychic shields have withstood the likes of the White Queen so don't go slapping the 'END' sticker on the encounter without exploring the actual possibilities. In addition, she's one of the longest standing and adept TK users in the MU, again writing her off is shortsighted at best.

As to matter manipulation, she's shown immunity to magical and physical alteration as well as mental, so.......yeah.:o

While she on the other hand can still use her TK to rearrange matter and her Katana can cut through ANYTHING.

In closing, Betsy's age old 'TK that can shatter mountains' has been proven since like, last year when Marvel Girl said Psylocke's TK was beyond her own.:wow: :awesome:

2-1 Gorilla Grodd


Oh man, I went surfing and apparently Betsy can now make herself Invisible as well as the answer to your question Ferret, Jamie moified the structure of her new body to make her immune to all these things listed earlier.

Docker: THIS is her new upgrade details, otherwise known as what everyone chose to ignore.:o

[Genesis 1.0]

OHHHHHHH! Great fight.

Imma go with the Avengers.

*Takes a bow*

I was looking hard for a comprable team in number and power. You know what's tough? Find a Marvel squad to match to Titan Squad: Superboy, Cassie, Kid Flash, Raven, Robin, Gar, & Vic. Everyone I found was too powerful or too weak to go. If you have any ideas, PM me.:awesome:

1-1 TIE

[Lobo]

I'm going to go with JL...barely. I would like to see Diana smack Namor around, though :O

[Sparta*]

with the rosters listed I have to go with Marvel. If Superman was with the DC crew it'd be a different story.

[Genesis 1.0]

Heh, that would be one hell of a clash and Dinah ain't walking away from it clean.

Ms. Marvel / Tornado interests me.

2-2 TIE

[Ace of Knaves]

Cap vs Batman and Stark vs Stewart interest me.

[Majic Walrus]

This is an awesome and complicated fight. Surprisingly enough I'm going to go with the JLA.

WW, Batman, GL (even Stewart) and Hawkman can do some serious ****ing people up. The Avengers crew isn't too shabby either and they both have teamwork out the ass working for them.

Turning point in this match? Having Batman on your side.

JLA wins.

[Docker2.0]

Having Batman on your side?!?! See Genesis what I mean about a Spiderman/Batman match being voted more closely than you think! If JLA win, it won't be becuase of Batman, it would be because of WW. And for that reason, I'm going with the Avengers, though barely.

[Genesis 1.0]

This is an awesome and complicated fight. Surprisingly enough I'm going to go with the JLA.

WW, Batman, GL (even Stewart) and Hawkman can do some serious ****ing people up. The Avengers crew isn't too shabby either and they both have teamwork out the ass working for them.

Turning point in this match? Having Batman on your side.

JLA wins.

:hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::doh:

All Hail Majic Walrus I, The Crown Prince of Epic Fail!


I shouldn't even count your f'n vote after that shiz.:o

3-3 TIE

[Hound55]

Having Batman on your side?!?! See Genesis what I mean about a Spiderman/Batman match being voted more closely than you think! If JLA win, it won't be becuase of Batman, it would be because of WW. And for that reason, I'm going with the Avengers, though barely.
Walrus only gets one vote.

I can understand why he didn't make it. The only way he could would be to tip the bias with additional stipulations and then that gets tricky... you can throw rational thought out the door (although rational thought never walked through said door the second Bats or GL are mentioned...) because those little "nudges" to "even things up" can be read to be more or less powerful, so I can understand why Gen likes keeping fights simple between two evely matched opponents rather than trying to make up ground by the scenario of the fight itself.

[Hound55]

This is an awesome and complicated fight. Surprisingly enough I'm going to go with the JLA.

WW, Batman, GL (even Stewart) and Hawkman can do some serious ****ing people up. The Avengers crew isn't too shabby either and they both have teamwork out the ass working for them.

Turning point in this match? Having Batman on your side.

JLA wins.
# and then you go and spoil it all, by saying something stupid like what you reeeeeea-lly think... #

Its Hawkwoman too, unless that was a slip of the tongue.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Jla

[Docker2.0]

Walrus only gets one vote.

I can understand why he didn't make it. The only way he could would be to tip the bias with additional stipulations and then that gets tricky... you can throw rational thought out the door (although rational thought never walked through said door the second Bats or GL are mentioned...) because those little "nudges" to "even things up" can be read to be more or less powerful, so I can understand why Gen likes keeping fights simple between two evely matched opponents rather than trying to make up ground by the scenario of the fight itself.

The reason why I say it will be a close fight(kind of anyway) is becuase of the mistakes Spidey is known to make before he rallies back. Whereas Bats is known to exploit mistakes. I'm not saying Bats would win, but I'm saying the fight might be closer than one expects. Now if it's Bats vs the Hulk, there is no way he's walking away from that, despite that STUPID comic that came out years ago!

[GlasgowBat]

ehh.....i think diana, Reddy and GL are the main reason the JL win this one........they are capable of taking the big hitters in the avengers, quickly making up for a numbers deficit which, as genesis pointed out, is largely irrelevant

[Silicon Surfer]

Jla

[Hound55]

Wasp's in the picture but not in the list.

Is she in this or not?

[CanaryFan]

Justice League

[Majic Walrus]

The reason why I say it will be a close fight(kind of anyway) is becuase of the mistakes Spidey is known to make before he rallies back. Whereas Bats is known to exploit mistakes. I'm not saying Bats would win, but I'm saying the fight might be closer than one expects. Now if it's Bats vs the Hulk, there is no way he's walking away from that, despite that STUPID comic that came out years ago!

Gen: Can I nominate Docker2.0 for a fail award for bringing up Hulk?

[Genesis 1.0]

Wasp's in the picture but not in the list.

Is she in this or not?

Geez she's small.

Yes.


Walrus: I think you're both headed in that direction.:o

I'm going Avengers based on the fact that aside from Dinah & Stewart, the rest of the DC team can be overpowered by the Avengers. Canary can't use her Cry without hurting her own squad.

I'll take Iron Man, Ms. Marvel, & Namor over the stalwarts of the DC crew. And those 3 are a minumum, the way it's running there'd be at least a Torch and Spiderwoman left over as well.

7-4 JLA

[Majic Walrus]

You take Namor over Hawkman?

[Hound55]

I'm going Avengers based on the fact that aside from Dinah & Stewart, the rest of the DC team can be overpowered by the Avengers. Canary can't use her Cry without hurting her own squad.

I'll take Iron Man, Ms. Marvel, & Namor over the stalwarts of the DC crew. And those 3 are a minumum, the way it's running there'd be at least a Torch and Spiderwoman left over as well.

7-4 JLA
I don't know... Canary's cry is directional-based, isn't it?

Combine that with how good a martial-artist she is and I'll figure she's a good enough ring-general to isolate some choice folk away from her teammates and hit 'em with one (or even open the fight with one to try and help the JLA to get the jump on them).

That said I don't think it'll be a huge factor in this anyway.

Going to take a while to think about this one, there's a lot of pieces in play...

[Genesis 1.0]

You take Namor over Hawkman?

:dry:

1.) It's Hawkwoman

2.) Even if it were Hawkman, HELL YES.

Namor beats the brakes off guys like Hulk and you think I'm taking Hall? I love 'em, Wolverine with Wings, but no.


I don't know... Canary's cry is directional-based, isn't it?

Combine that with how good a martial-artist she is and I'll figure she's a good enough ring-general to isolate some choice folk away from her teammates and hit 'em with one (or even open the fight with one to try and help the JLA to get the jump on them).

That said I don't think it'll be a huge factor in this anyway.

Going to take a while to think about this one, there's a lot of pieces in play...

It's been a broad blast most of the time, but she's shown the ability to direct it, yes. Problem is, you're going to take teammates going toe to toe, locked up with the enemy, no way she nails one without hitting the other. People don't fight standing still, she risks doing as much damage as helping.

And if you're talking about getting a jump on the other team, then at least 3 of the DC crew will be burnt to a crisp by the Torches before they get to close.:awesome:

In conclusion, it IS a very difficult battle.

[Majic Walrus]

:dry:

1.) It's Hawkwoman

Oh


2.) Even if it were Hawkman, HELL YES.

Namor beats the brakes off guys like Hulk and you think I'm taking Hall? I love 'em, Wolverine with Wings, but no.


Damn.

[Docker2.0]

Geez she's small.

Yes.


Walrus: I think you're both headed in that direction.:o

I'm going Avengers based on the fact that aside from Dinah & Stewart, the rest of the DC team can be overpowered by the Avengers. Canary can't use her Cry without hurting her own squad.

I'll take Iron Man, Ms. Marvel, & Namor over the stalwarts of the DC crew. And those 3 are a minumum, the way it's running there'd be at least a Torch and Spiderwoman left over as well.

7-4 JLA
How am I headed for a fail?!?! He made the Batman comment not me! I said it was crazy for Bats to beat the Hulk!!! :argh:

[Docker2.0]

:dry:

1.) It's Hawkwoman

2.) Even if it were Hawkman, HELL YES.

Namor beats the brakes off guys like Hulk and you think I'm taking Hall? I love 'em, Wolverine with Wings, but no.




It's been a broad blast most of the time, but she's shown the ability to direct it, yes. Problem is, you're going to take teammates going toe to toe, locked up with the enemy, no way she nails one without hitting the other. People don't fight standing still, she risks doing as much damage as helping.

And if you're talking about getting a jump on the other team, then at least 3 of the DC crew will be burnt to a crisp by the Torches before they get to close.:awesome:

In conclusion, it IS a very difficult battle.

Wow! I can't believe someone thinks Hawkman would beat Namor. Namor is so underrated in the MU, it's not even funny.

[Majic Walrus]

How am I headed for a fail?!?! He made the Batman comment not me! I said it was crazy for Bats to beat the Hulk!!! :argh:

You brought up the Hulk in a fight that did not include the Hulk.

Remember that next time there's a fight with Captain America and Major Glory and I bring up Batman. :whatever:

[Docker2.0]

Nah I'm saying that in comics Bats is made to beat everyone from Superman to the Hulk. Not bringing him up per say............

[PaleRider]

Jla, WW and GL push it over for me.

[Silicon Surfer]

I haven't seen this version of Geo-Force but the pre-crisis original was fairly formidable. He could among other things levitate large chunks of earth and use them as projectiles. I notice that nobody is mentioning him as a factor. Is he another one they have wimped out.

[Genesis 1.0]

Is ALL your knowledge pre-crisis? Anubis said 70s early 80s and from the past month or so, I'm starting to believe him.

First, it's the same guy, Brion to my knowledge. As to Geo Force, he's more Stompa to me, causing quakes although he's shown a propensity for using boulders and such. However if something's sharp enough he can be cut, not even supernatural sharp just sharp, and he'll bleed.

In addition, he, like your Atlantean's in reverse, has to remain on earth, as in soil, to be at his best. Prolonged distance from having both feet down and he weakens and eventually dies. Which is similiar to his original version.

A wide variety of people that are fast enough to dodge his uses and deal damage, just off the top, Spiderwoman, Spidey, Torch, or even Wolverine since he can be stabbed.

8-4 JLA

[Silicon Surfer]

I pretty much quit reading DC not long after the Crisis. I have picked up some things since then like the Zero Hour run, Connor's meeting with the pre-crisis Superboy, etc. When they changed the original Legion and started rewriting histories for no real reason that was too much. Marvel I was reading extensively through the '90's. In the mid 90's I was working part time at a comic shop and read my way through the stock when business was slow which was most of the time. A few years ago the only comic shop in the area closed and I lost ready access and largely quit reading. I pick up a few every now and then when I encounter them. I have read Annihilation and all the tie-ins. There are issues posted in forums every now and then as well.

[Majic Walrus]

That read like the most awkward resume ever.

[Silicon Surfer]

Wikipedia confirms what I thought but wasn't certain of, that Geo-Force has considerable superhuman strength as well as a few things that I didn't know about. He can also fly at great speeds and turn organic matter to stone. It also says that he can hurl lava blasts as well as manipulate gravity.

[SuperFerret]

That read like the most awkward resume ever.

No, the most awkward resume ever contains the words "nun" and "exotic dancer".

[Harlekin]

My gut reaction was to go with the JLA, but this is a tough one, I have to think on it. As has been noted, Geo Force is being overlooked. He's one of the stronger DC characters and could probably take on - at least - Ms. Marvel in that regard. Thing is though, if the JL big guns (minus GL) can just hold off the Avengers big guns for a bit, Stewart should be able to start picking off the street levellers on the other side. Then they all team up to take the rest of the Avengers.

[Genesis 1.0]

Wikipedia confirms what I thought but wasn't certain of, that Geo-Force has considerable superhuman strength as well as a few things that I didn't know about. He can also fly at great speeds and turn organic matter to stone. It also says that he can hurl lava blasts as well as manipulate gravity.

None of which, aside from the strength he's been shown doing since his resurfacing. In fact having his powers melded with Tara has weakened him considerably cross the board.

As to your explanation, now I get it and it makes sense. Still doesn't excuse you equating Grodd to X-Man, but I understand. You have reasons.

Walrus, on the other hand.....

:o

[Genesis 1.0]

My gut reaction was to go with the JLA, but this is a tough one, I have to think on it. As has been noted, Geo Force is being overlooked. He's one of the stronger DC characters and could probably take on - at least - Ms. Marvel in that regard. Thing is though, if the JL big guns (minus GL) can just hold off the Avengers big guns for a bit, Stewart should be able to start picking off the street levellers on the other side. Then they all team up to take the rest of the Avengers.

Dunno Har, like I said earlier, by that line of thought, the Torches will crisp most of the street level and possibly Hawkwoman before they have a chance to have any real effect. Even Geo Force and easily Batman can be taken down by Wasp in the chaos of battle. Sting to the skull, eye, nose, and they're done.

Marvel's squad has the advantage of range in greater numbers. As to Torando, well he's shown himself to be a fallacy against stiff resistance one too many times. Being an android make Stark his worst nightmare. Which leaves Stewart and Dinah in a Handicap match.

[SuperFerret]

Is Red Tornado whole in this fight or is he the broken up torso pictured?

[louiebling$]

The Avengers

[Silicon Surfer]

The Wikipedia article says that while Geo-Force's durability seems to have decreased, his other powers have increased. In fact they increased to the point that he was having trouble controlling them.

[Ace of Knaves]

And that could back fire on him and his team mates.

[GlasgowBat]

stark won't be in the fight very long, seeing as GL, or diana would swat him like he was nothing.

so tornado will be more than free to cause some damage.

Geo Force has a set of powers which are difficult for things like this; it's almost ipossible to judge how he'd use them

[GlasgowBat]

eh....double post

[Ace of Knaves]

I think you underestimate Iron Man.

[GlasgowBat]

against a green lantern ring? against wonder woman?

i think not.

[Ace of Knaves]

Well the extremis gives him enhanced durability, speed, strength and reflexes too. It wouldn't be too easy for them.

[Silicon Surfer]

As I understand it, he doesn't have Extremis anymore.

[Anubis]

Well, right now he's a vegetable. At the time that that team was together, he had it though.

[Chunin]

Avengers

[[A]]

The Justice League of America.

[Teth-Adam.]

wonderwoman is basicly as powerful as supes, and greenlantern is more than capable of tearing starks suit apart. reddy and geo will also cause a lot of damage, and with the rest of league backing them up, i cant see them losing

[Ace of Knaves]

WW isn't anywhere near Supes level. Namor could handle her I reckon...just. Ms Marvel and Spider-Woman could take Stewart too I think.

[Teth-Adam.]

you clearly no nothing of wonderwoman, and as such, should refrain from commenting on her. Diana can trades blows with superman showing she is of similar stregnth and speed, and can take a hit. Add the fact that she is the greastest skilled fighter of a super race of warrior women, and it is clear that namor wouldn't even be a threat to her.

[Teth-Adam.]

also, i think that with one of the most powerful weapons in the universe, stewart could beat marvel, and spiderwoman.

[Genesis 1.0]

you clearly no nothing of wonderwoman, and as such, should refrain from commenting on her. Diana can trades blows with superman showing she is of similar stregnth and speed, and can take a hit. Add the fact that she is the greastest skilled fighter of a super race of warrior women, and it is clear that namor wouldn't even be a threat to her.

I'm just going to quote myself when dealing with an idiot of your particular ilk.


Ah the beloved defense of fools and the simple minded; if you disagree with them then you must not know much about the subject. How quaint. You couldn't find a pair of knockers at a strip club and following those same mental failures you couldn't make a valid point in this debate so you opt out with this online cowardice utilized by so many other weak minded individuals before you.

THIS is why most people use the name DACMAN when referring to the pinnacle of fanboy idiocy in any avenue of comics or otherwise. Your fanaticism has transcended comics as a whole.

Congrats, your self-destructing brain cells have made you famous.

Now sit down, stfu, lest I rain ungodly fury down on your mentally disabled ass.:o


Two of the premiere teams of their respective universes come head to head in a clash of the Titans as Captain America leads the Avengers against Batman & the Justice League. In the end, theJLA pull off a miracle and Dinah is the only one left standing to claim a 10-5 JLA victory.

[CanaryFan]

Black canary was the only one left standing? Didn't see that coming.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://i45.tinypic.com/b81o36.jpg

Bane

VS

http://i47.tinypic.com/2149tvk.jpg

Captain America (Steve)

Condition: Minus Shield

[Genesis 1.0]

Black canary was the only one left standing? Didn't see that coming.

She gets knocked out and is buried under Hawkwoman's smoking wings and emerges just as WW, Iron Man, Human Torch, and Ms. Marvel eliminate each other wondering wtf happened and why she can see out of only 1 eye.

Sorry CF.:o

0-0

[Johnny Blaze]

Cap

[Silicon Surfer]

Cap

[[A]]

Captain America :cap:.

[Genesis 1.0]

Might I remind you all that Bane is as intelligent as Batman, as tactically gifted as any non-superhuman in the DCU and quite a few superhuman ones, is superhumanly strong and even in his base form is stronger than a peak man. He's also one of the best martial artists the DCU has.

Bane has beaten a great tactical mind and physical foe in Bruce.

In addition, Cap is WITHOUT his shield.

3-0 Cap

[louiebling$]

Cap still has far more experience than Bane does IMO

I think Cap will take this one but he he is gonna be battered Bruised and possibly some broken limbs.

[louiebling$]

Cap still has far more experience than Bane does IMO

I think Cap will take this one but he he is gonna be battered Bruised and possibly some broken limbs.

[Docker2.0]

Might I remind you all that Bane is as intelligent as Batman, as tactically gifted as any non-superhuman in the DCU and quite a few superhuman ones, is superhumanly strong and even in his base form is stronger than a peak man. He's also one of the best martial artists the DCU has.

Bane has beaten a great tactical mind and physical foe in Bruce.

In addition, Cap is WITHOUT his shield.

3-0 Cap

Bane has barely beaten Batman and the only reason he broke his back was becuase Bats didn't sleep in days. And if Bane is as great as you say, then why are you giving him the advantage by taking away Cap's shield? But I still say Cap will beat his arse faster than a midget grows up. Cap is strong as well as a great tactitian. Cap by a mile! Oh! My vote counts twice. Make it happen!

[SuperFerret]

Steve

[Anubis]

Shield or not I think he could take Bane. Wont be easy though.

Bane is severly underrated.

[SuperFerret]

He is, and he's not gonna make it easy for Rogers, but Cap's still gonna walk away from this better off than Bane will.

[PaleRider]

Shield or not I think he could take Bane. Wont be easy though.

Bane is severly underrated.

agreed with this, thats a vote for steve. But I like Bane and I think he is very underrated.

[Ace of Knaves]

Agreed. Bane is underrated. But Cap's been doing this **** against foes just as, if not more powerful than Bane for a while.

Cap

[PemLam]

Cap

[CanaryFan]

Captain America

[Sparta*]

Definatley Captain America, with ease i'd say

[Docker2.0]

Wow! Bane hasn't gotten one vote, even with that bogus stipulation to take away Cap's shield. Genesis! I want my vs suggestion!! :argh:

[Anubis]

Your vs suggestion is stupid, and it's been done.

[GlasgowBat]

[/I]

Now sit down, stfu, lest I rain ungodly fury down on your mentally disabled ass.:o





hahahahahahaha! seriously? did you just tell someone on the internet to "stfu"? and then threaten them with "fury"? oh, my mistake, "ungodly" fury? i really can't believe this.

you have some sort of authority? or power? no, i didn't think so. your just some guy, who enjoys acting like a hardcase on the internet. On the internet.

nobody is impressed, and nobody cares; get over yourself. Besides, on this occassion the guy is correct. to say wonder woman would be seriously challenged by iron man shows either bias, or ignorance of the character. Wonder Woman has be shown to stand toe-to-toe with superman, and has fared fairly well. she is of that class.

on this, bane without venom is losing. hell, with venom he'd probably lose. Almost certainly. He only defeated bruce with venom becuase he had launched a surprise attack at the culmination of a campaign to break him down, leaving batman physically and mentally exhausted even before the fight began.

As for him being one of the best martial artists in the DCU.....nah. it's just not true. He is skilled, very skilled, but there is a reason why he needs venom to be at his most dangerous. he consistently uses his size, strength and reach when fighting, to compensate when combating foes with superior skill.

Cap has every advantage besides strength and ruthlessness. He'll take it.

[Ace of Knaves]

That's just Gen's way, he was joking.

And no, Wonder Woman isn't on Supermans level. She's near it, but she ain't on it. And she probably would take Stark apart. But who says Stark would be stupid enough to fight her? Namor could take WW out.

[Teth-Adam.]

For gods sake genisis, why are you trying to make this personal, me and knaves disagreed, i made my arguement, and then you acuse me of being a coward?

Anyway, bane isnt as smart as batman, and isnt as good a tactian, and his fighting abilities are far from the best. cap wins

OH NO! now i might face an ungodly wrath.

[Ace of Knaves]

He's joking fella! You need to not take it personally :D

[Anubis]

Yeah fellas, no reason to get all butt hurt over such things. It's the style in which this thread is accustomed.

[Majic Walrus]

Cap has every advantage besides strength and ruthlessness. He'll take it.

This is wrong.

Bane has the upper hand in one on one combat. He has the upper hand on strength and speed. He's also got the upper hand on tracking abilities and I would guess he's got the upper hand on ruthlessness.

His only real deficit is in the area of versatility. Bane is an excellent fighter and skilled tactician and could probably take down 90% of the DCU and Marvel.

However I think that Bane would need far greater prep time to be at peak efficiency.

That said. I go with Cap 6/10 times even though Bane deserves more votes.

[Genesis 1.0]

Rating :hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:

Look I just had a little bird with a red highlighted name give me some pointed advice so I'll keep this short, sweet, and to the point.

You don't want to get dragged through the mud and have nothing to fall back on but cut a paste, vanilla, 'Yo Momma' class comebacks? Then don't say stupid shiz and if you DO, be prepared to explain it. Just like everyone else, even the Hype's Rainman; Walrus.:o

I say out of the box shiz all the time and if anyone has a problem with it, as they tend to since they don't know any better, then they bring me up on it. Know how many times Anubis has tried to drag me? And time after time I kick him in the nads and send him on his way and he thanks me for it.

That's right, I said it.

This s**t is MA, we wipe our asses with Rated-R content and if you can't play then get the hell out of the way.


NOW

Bane's more inelligent and analytical than even Steve, he's shown himself capable of going hand to hand with the best and figuring them out in he course of a battle. He's also got accelerated healing with Venom and Cap's had fits with Crossbones and Red Skull, you can't tell me that Bane is less. This is the first meeting and I'll give Bane the edge.

Bane

[Genesis 1.0]

WTF, did I just agree with Walrus a-F'N-gain?

:o


In a physical battle that pits the evil Bruce Wayne on VENOM, Bane, against everyone's #1 Hero, Captain America, it's a no contest as Cap beats Bane at his own game 13-1 wihout his famed shield.

[Teth-Adam.]

"tracking" ??? what does that have to do with anything

[Genesis 1.0]

http://i48.tinypic.com/2l9o9zn.jpg

Nova

VS

http://i45.tinypic.com/2weci79.jpg

Aztek

[Majic Walrus]

WTF, did I just agree with Walrus a-F'N-gain?

:o


In a physical battle that pits the evil Bruce Wayne on VENOM, Bane, against everyone's #1 Hero, Captain America, it's a no contest as Cap beats Bane at his own game 13-1 wihout his famed shield.

Are we best friends now?

[Anubis]

Rating :hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:

Look I just had a little bird with a red highlighted name give me some pointed advice so I'll keep this short, sweet, and to the point.

You don't want to get dragged through the mud and have nothing to fall back on but cut a paste, vanilla, 'Yo Momma' class comebacks? Then don't say stupid shiz and if you DO, be prepared to explain it. Just like everyone else, even the Hype's Rainman; Walrus.:o

I say out of the box shiz all the time and if anyone has a problem with it, as they tend to since they don't know any better, then they bring me up on it. Know how many times Anubis has tried to drag me? And time after time I kick him in the nads and send him on his way and he thanks me for it.

That's right, I said it.



This s**t is MA, we wipe our asses with Rated-R content and if you can't play then get the hell out of the way.


NOW

Bane's more inelligent and analytical than even Steve, he's shown himself capable of going hand to hand with the best and figuring them out in he course of a battle. He's also got accelerated healing with Venom and Cap's had fits with Crossbones and Red Skull, you can't tell me that Bane is less. This is the first meeting and I'll give Bane the edge.

Bane

I think your memories a bit off there punchy. Excessive ownage will do that.

Also, you spelled intelligent wrong.

Oh and Nova.

[Majic Walrus]

"tracking" ??? what does that have to do with anything

Being able to find someone even if they run away.

[CanaryFan]

Nova

[Ace of Knaves]

Aztec ain't no *****. But Nova is as Stark put it "different" these days.

Gotta go with the man named Dick Ryder.

[Silicon Surfer]

Nova

[Genesis 1.0]

I think your memories a bit off there punchy. Excessive ownage will do that.

Also, you spelled intelligent wrong.

Oh and Nova.

Speaking from experience I see.:awesome:

Oh hell I was busy getting ready to throw up the next match, I didn't cross every T, any T for that matter.:o


Aztek is one tough, diverse, and ultimately powerful guy for DC so if there's anyone that can match the abilities at Nova's beck and call, it's the Ultimate Man who can go from density manipulaton to intangibility and most powers in between.

4-0 Nova

[Majic Walrus]

I'm going with Aztek on this one. I know that Nova's no slouch but I think that Aztek has the versatility to be able to win out over Nova.

[Docker2.0]

Nova.

[Harlekin]

Nova.

[Teth-Adam.]

walrus, this is an arena match up, and i dont think cap would run away, so tracking abilities are irrelevant.
think aztek might win, but not sure, not voting just yet

[PemLam]

Nova

[Majic Walrus]

walrus, this is an arena match up, and i dont think cap would run away, so tracking abilities are irrelevant.
think aztek might win, but not sure, not voting just yet

On another thread we determined that areas don't have to be cage matches, there could be an area that is an island for all we know.

Either way I don't think Cap would run either. But I mentioned it because his sense's still give him an edge.

[[A]]

Nova.

[Genesis 1.0]

Rich is damn god, but nobody expects a guy with THIS type of variety in power and the only way he'll find out about several of them is to be hit as a result and that's the last thing he needs.

Aztek

8-2 Nova

[Anubis]

He can do a lot, but not much can actually hurt Nova short of a 4-D bomb explosion, and he's not gonna use that. He's not as strong, nor as fast. Nor does he have a damn near omnipotent computer giving him advice on what to do and what his opponent is doing energy wise.

[Genesis 1.0]

Hadn't Rider lost Worldmind? It thought he was too reckless.

In any case, how many times has Nova been beaten by guys that really don't have insane power?

[Ace of Knaves]

Since his series started up again? None really.

[Anubis]

And yeah, he's had worldmind back for some time now. Now with awesome Ko Rel personality action. :up:

[Genesis 1.0]

Awww hell yeah. :)

The Human Rocket flies guns blazing into battle with DC's Most Underrated Hero, Aztek in a battle of Variety. In the end, it's clear there's only one Ultimate Man in this contest as Nova wins 8-2.

[Docker2.0]

Once again I defeat Genesis.


Docker2.0-10

Genesis1.0-0.

:awesome:

[Genesis 1.0]

http://i49.tinypic.com/19kro9.jpg

Cyborg

VS

http://i48.tinypic.com/ip8w1f.jpg

Sandman

[Genesis 1.0]

Once again I defeat Genesis.


Docker2.0-10

Genesis1.0-0.

:awesome:

What the f___ are you talking about?

Since when does one opinion defeat another? Or is it because more people say it that it becomes true?:o

Fail.:awesome:

[Docker2.0]

What the f___ are you talking about?

Since when does one opinion defeat another? Or is it because more people say it that it becomes true?:o

Fail.:awesome:

My opinion has deeper meaning than yours. You'll understand that later in life son. :awesome:

As for this fight, it's going to be close but I'm going with Sandman. I was going to go with Cyborg but then I realized that once sand gets into crap it's hard to get out. Once Sandman gets into Cyborg's hardware(no porn jokes! :cmad:)then I just don't see Cyborg getting out of it and beating him. Not to mention Sandman is a 100 ton guy and I don't think Cyborg is nowhere near that level. Sandman in minutes.

[Genesis 1.0]

My opinion has deeper meaning than yours. You'll understand that later in life son. :awesome:

As for this fight, it's going to be close but I'm going with Sandman. I was going to go with Cyborg but then I realized that once sand gets into crap it's hard to get out. Once Sandman gets into Cyborg's hardware(no porn jokes! :cmad:)then I just don't see Cyborg getting out of it and beating him. Not to mention Sandman is a 100 ton guy and I don't think Cyborg is nowhere near that level. Sandman in minutes.

Heh, says Walrus Jr.:o

I found it interesting that Sandman can even control his form if turned to glass.:dry:

1-0 Sandman

[Silicon Surfer]

Sandman

[Docker2.0]

Heh, says Walrus Jr.:o

I found it interesting that Sandman can even control his form if turned to glass.:dry:

1-0 Sandman

Well why don't you man up and vote then! :argh:

[GlasgowBat]

going to go with sandman......

[PemLam]

Sandman

[Majic Walrus]

Sandman is totally underrated. Sandman FTW.

[Docker2.0]

:eek: This is going to be a strange week I see.

[CanaryFan]

Cyborg

[Genesis 1.0]

What I find interesting is the fact that usually guys with power and little intelligence, usually get the shaft to less powerful guys that are smarter. It's happened to Electro, Rhino, and more recently, Killer Croc but Sandman gets a pass? Flint's a f'n moron just like Electro 8 times in 10 and Vic consistently showcases his innovative tactics and in this case, overwhelming intelligence.

F____ it, I'll be Devil's Advocate and go Cyborg in the face of you people's mind boggling inconsistency.

6-3 Sandman

[SuperFerret]

Well, way to take my reasoning and vote and then post it before I get a chance to. I've got half a mind to vote for Sandman out of spite.

Cyborg.

:o

[[A]]

Sandman.

[Lobo]

Cyborg, one of his arms turns into a vacuum :oldrazz:

[Genesis 1.0]

SF: HA! :o


The hard hitting, extremely powerful dumbass known as Flint Marko takes on the man that literally IS genuis tech, Vic Stone. Cyborg puts up a damn good fight and scatters Flint to the wnd but those winds of fortune change to a Sandstorm as he falls 7-5 to the Sandman.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://i45.tinypic.com/21n16k2.jpg

Solomon Grundy

VS

http://i50.tinypic.com/a4wuuh.jpg

Wendigo

[SuperFerret]

Wendigo.

[Anubis]

Wow, good match.

Grundy

[Genesis 1.0]

{edt}

[Genesis 1.0]

Thanx.:awesome:

Intelligence is NOT a factor in this one. :o

1-1 TIE

[Silicon Surfer]

Grundy

[Majic Walrus]

Intelligence totally is a factor. As dumb as Grundy is he's still smarter than Wendigo and I think he's a big tougher too.

Grundy takes it.

[Anubis]

I wonder if Wendigo would get sick if he bit him in the balls.

[Majic Walrus]

I wonder how often you think about balls during these match ups.

[[A]]

Solomon Grundy.

[Anubis]

I wonder how often you think about balls during these match ups.


Surprisingly, not as often as you'd think.

[Majic Walrus]

:lmao:

[PaleRider]

good fight, I think Grundy takes it.

[Docker2.0]

This is a very tough match up. I'm going with the Wendigo. But it's a tough one really.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Grundy

[Ace of Knaves]

Wendigoooooooooooooooooooo!

[Hound55]

For a second then I thought it was going to be Rulk... :hehe:

Wendigo... but a hell of a lot closer than if it were Red Hulk (goes without saying though...)

[PemLam]

Wendigo

[PemLam]

Double Post

[[A]]

For a second then I thought it was going to be Rulk... :hehe:me too :funny:

[Lobo]

Grundy

[Sparta*]

S/Grundy

[Teth-Adam.]

depends on grundy, sometimes he can be beaten up by batman, sometimes he trades blows with supes, if its one of the more recent grundys, i think he'll win, but its hard to tell because he's so inconsistant.

[Anubis]

In situations where a character has varying powerlevels, you always go for the one that matches the person they're fighting. Makes things much easier.

[Anubis]

Double Post



Google anal warts.

[CanaryFan]

Sol

[Genesis 1.0]

Intelligence totally is a factor. As dumb as Grundy is he's still smarter than Wendigo and I think he's a big tougher too.

Grundy takes it.

Heh, starting to wonder if you're smarter than Grundy.:o

In only one incarnaton has Grundy shown Intelligence to a level that means a damn in this match. Normal Grudy has the brain capacity of the Hulk. He gets mad, he smashes, that's it. Wendigo is relentless animal fury, that's it.

Intelligence is nil, it's all instinct.

I'LL take Wendigo in this match, he's faster than Grundy and stronger in the average incarnation, and Grundy's more Durable but in the end, I think Wendigo beats him down long enough to aquire a victory.

Wendigo

9-6 Solomon Grundy


btw, WHAT IF Grundy eats Wendigo? Does the curse respond to him as an undead creature?:o

[Docker2.0]

I think Wendigo is being very underestimated here. He's a beast of pure hunger and instinct and dude is fast. Grundy is strong and possibly stronger than the Wendigo but I think Wendy's speed is what will determine the outcome of this. Not to mention his claws and teeth.

[Genesis 1.0]

Adamantium class claws. :o

[Majic Walrus]

Heh, starting to wonder if you're smarter than Grundy.:o

In only one incarnaton has Grundy shown Intelligence to a level that means a damn in this match. Normal Grudy has the brain capacity of the Hulk. He gets mad, he smashes, that's it. Wendigo is relentless animal fury, that's it.

Intelligence is nil, it's all instinct.

I'LL take Wendigo in this match, he's faster than Grundy and stronger in the average incarnation, and Grundy's more Durable but in the end, I think Wendigo beats him down long enough to aquire a victory.

Wendigo

9-6 Solomon Grundy


btw, WHAT IF Grundy eats Wendigo? Does the curse respond to him as an undead creature?:o

Wendigo is blind fury. At least Grundy can figure out how to pick something up and smash you with it.

[Chunin]

Wendigo

[Genesis 1.0]

Wendigo is blind fury. At least Grundy can figure out how to pick something up and smash you with it.

WTF are you talking about? :o

Wendigo has picked up fallen logs and boulders to hit anyone from Logan to Hulk.


In a Battle of Brainless Beastial Brutality, the one and only Solomon Grundy takes on the Curse of the Ancient North in a bloody clash. Undead flesh is slashed to tatters but nothing can stop Mr.Saturday Night from defeating Wendigo 9-7.

[[A]]

^ the match was over.

[Ace of Knaves]

THe world is over... until Gen posts the next match.

[Genesis 1.0]

Good choice, Smaug. One of the few, the proud, the Intelligent. :o

9-8 Grundy

[Genesis 1.0]

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Captain Cold

VS

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Avalanche

[[A]]

Avalanche.

[Docker2.0]

Avalanche.

[Silicon Surfer]

Avalanche

[Ace of Knaves]

Haha I love that tag line "He loves only Cold!" :funny: Ridiculous.

Imma have to think about this one.

[Genesis 1.0]

Avalanche directs his blasts through his hands, Cold with his guns. They're both ranged fighters with no superhuman physical attributes and either of them could defeat the other with a good connect.

Cold could unsettle Avalanche even if he misses, making it impossible for Avalanche to even stand on frozen ground or even freezing him to the ground. Avalanche will probably focus on ground disruption in lieu of hitting a finishing blow, as he usually does.

Avalanche is used to working on a team where someone can capitalize on his powers, but he's solo in this one. Captain Cold is used to being solo, even though he's been on several teams. Fighting the Flash regularly has to sharpen your A-game.

3-0 Avalanche

[Genesis 1.0]

Oh, why the f___ does Captain Cold look like the Mole Man with a parka? :o

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[Anubis]

Captain Cold

Best Ice related villain there is.

[Genesis 1.0]

Captain Cold

Best Ice related villain there is.

Mr. Freeze says F___ you too.:awesome:

3-1 Avalanche

[Anubis]

It's the truth. You'd think with Freeze being a doctor, he'd be as good with the cold as the Captain is, but it's like he never takes the time. He just freezes people. Cold has f**king mastered it. I once seen him use a wide beam, froze an entire room. The guy thought, heh, you missed, took a step and his legs came off. I've never seen Avalanche use his powers as well as Cold does.

[Genesis 1.0]

Two things to consider in this fight that may work in Ava's favor:

1.) His powers affect living tissue in additions to causing earthquake class vibrational blasts, so prolonged exposure will literally break Cold's cells down.

2.) He could distort the feeze beam with his vibrational ability, given the power.

No doubt Cold is FAR more intelligent and as such, has managed to produce some badass effects with a basic seeming weapon. Nevermind the guns, that's his greatest advantage in this fight and he'll need it facing a guy that's fought X-Teams with the likes of Iceman in them.

Like I said from the start, this one could fall either way depending on who manages to really connect with a good blow.

[CanaryFan]

Captian Cold

[Genesis 1.0]

3-2 Avalanche

[SuperFerret]

The Captain stops the oncoming Avalanche cold. :awesome:

[Genesis 1.0]

:-

I'll go Avalanche.

4-3 Avalanche