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Anubis
08-23-2009, 01:24 PM
Yeah, but all God's aren't created equal.
I'll throw one to Despero.
trustyside-kick
08-23-2009, 01:31 PM
But it's no worse than Despero being bitten by f'n SHARKS and being wounded from it. Or having a STEEL bar rip through you by a midling class hero, in no way a god.
5-2 Desak
Just because a shark bite could cause him to bleed doesn't mean they cause any great damage. All it shows is that his skin isn't invulnerable, but doesn't mean his muscles and what not aren't extremely durable. Also, it doesn't matter that it was a steel bar Aquaman threw at him, it was the force that threw the steel bar. Given Aquaman's battled it out with people like the Deep Six who give Supes a run for his money, it's not farfetched. The dude is strong. The driving force behind the attack is what matters, not the object used. I could stab you with a plastic fork, and yea its going to hurt more than if an infant tried to do the same to you.
I go with Despero btw, just felt I had to defend that. :clown:
Genesis 1.0
08-23-2009, 01:59 PM
Come on Trusty, that's just silly.
Your skin is your first line of defense, imagine what would happen if the Thing, Hulk, or even Superman were getting biten by sharks and getting opened up. It's be ridiculous because once you get past that, you can damage what's underneath. Desak on the other hand has notoriously durable skin that hasn't cracked even under constant battle wth gods.
Fact of the matter is he shouldn't have even felt that, those teeth SHOULD have broken on his skin. He suffers from a serious case of inconsistency, which usually dooms characters in these bouts, guys like your Sentry or Dr. Strange, but eviently the same rules don't apply to Despero.:whatever:
If steel and shark teeth can hurt him, then Desak's going to have him leaking otherwordly fluids all over the place in the process of kicking his ass.
Hell, if force and velocity matter so much, then he's F***** with a HUGE F, if he runs into anyone with a machne gun or God forbid, a tomahawk missle or any other type of exposive.
Bad eough getting an asswhipping without it being a bloody beating.:o
Anubis: That's mighty generous of you to give THAT much room to Despero. I'll remember your dismissal of godhood in future matches so don't go eating all that crow later, ya hear?:cwink:
Desak's going to be carving a very large, very ugly pink turkey.:o
5-4 Desak
Anubis
08-23-2009, 02:07 PM
Remember it, take a picture, write it down, I don't give a f**k. I've denounced that whole "But he's a God" defense since always. It's the defense of dumbasses.
trustyside-kick
08-23-2009, 02:14 PM
How can you call that, or any comicbook physics silly? Superman has a "bio-aura" that protects the clothes he wears for goodness sake, lol.
Am I denying that Desak cannot cut him up? OF COURSE I'm not denying that. But when Aquaman hurled that steel bar through Despero's shoulder, it was by complete surprise. And you saying a machine gun or anyone with an axe is just stupid. I think the driving force of Aquaman's throw is superior to the speed and force of a bullet. The sharks were able to puncture the skin enough to bleed. It doesn't mean they dug in super deep. All it shows is that Despero isn't invulnerable like Superman.
But it doesn't change the fact that Despero held his own while Power Girl, Superman, and Captain Marvel were all up on his butt. And before you try to call inconsistency on that just because Aquaman physically held his own alone for a good while? NONE of those people have any actual fighting style or skill. Superman and the others have superspeed...but don't USE it in a fight. How often do you see them dodge and crap? They are the stereotypical superbeings who just throw there fist and hope to hit their target. Whereas Aquaman's actually a tactician and fighter like Wonder Woman.
Desak is going to give Despero a run for his money, but Despero can take all the blows he needs and if that isn't enough he has his telepathy.
Anubis
08-23-2009, 02:25 PM
Nah, that was a case of bulls**t writing. Theres noway that should have happened. We're talking about a dude who has shrugged of the combined might of Captain Marvel, Supes, Wonder Woman and PG. And an effin' shark is gonna draw blood? No. Thankfully you can't really call inconsistency unless it happens on more than one occasion. All the above bull happened in the same arc, therefore it can be chalked up souly to bad writing.
Genesis 1.0
08-23-2009, 02:31 PM
Remember it, take a picture, write it down, I don't give a f**k. I've denounced that whole "But he's a God" defense since always. It's the defense of dumbasses.
...................
So why aren't you using it again?:o
Anubis
08-23-2009, 02:38 PM
....nice one.
Genesis 1.0
08-23-2009, 02:53 PM
....nice one.
Best I could do on short notice.
It was that or say "Yo Momma".
I'd say I chose correctly.:o
Silicon Surfer
08-23-2009, 03:47 PM
Despero's invulnerability seems to be based on psionics. If he sees it coming it can't hurt him. All the defeats that I have seen have one common quality, surprise. Aquaman and Zatanna attacked from behind while his attention was on other foes. He wasn't prepared to be zapped by Johnny Sorrow either. Despero is composed of energy not matter and it seems that he can't actually suffer any sort of lasting harm at all. All that happens is that he dissipates until he summons concentration enough to reform.
CanaryFan
08-23-2009, 05:16 PM
Whaaaa? You're joking, right?:o
You don't know **** if you actually think Gladiator's going to piss himself coming up against Adam, he wouldn't piss himself against Supes either. You see the counter-balance to his confidence is his overwhelming arrogance.
Hehehehe, maybe slightly overstated but as much of a vicious prick as Gladiator can be when he has the upper hand and his confidence soars he can be an equally large baby when his confidence gets shot to hell as it would against Teth, faster than it ever has before.
Desak for the current match.
Chunin
08-23-2009, 05:44 PM
desak
Genesis 1.0
08-23-2009, 05:47 PM
Despero's invulnerability seems to be based on psionics. If he sees it coming it can't hurt him. All the defeats that I have seen have one common quality, surprise. Aquaman and Zatanna attacked from behind while his attention was on other foes. He wasn't prepared to be zapped by Johnny Sorrow either. Despero is composed of energy not matter and it seems that he can't actually suffer any sort of lasting harm at all. All that happens is that he dissipates until he summons concentration enough to reform.
Where's the surprise with the sharks? And i he's fighting someone, he should be on guard, which would eliminate any real surprises with his intelligence it shouldn't take long to figure it out.
And if you mean surprise period, then he's screwed. 99% of the time you lose a fight becaue you never saw ____ coming until it was too damn late.
6-5 Desak
Silicon Surfer
08-23-2009, 06:08 PM
If I've seen the scene with the sharks I don't recall it so I can't comment on that. His defeats have come from foes that surprised him. He seems to be able to resist, presumably by force of will, any attack from a foe that he is aware of. However if he is attacked by someone he doesn't know about he doesn't know to resist the attack. Multiple opponents don't seem to be a problem.
Genesis 1.0
08-23-2009, 06:24 PM
If I've seen the scene with the sharks I don't recall it so I can't comment on that. His defeats have come from foes that surprised him. He seems to be able to resist, presumably by force of will, any attack from a foe that he is aware of. However if he is attacked by someone he doesn't know about he doesn't know to resist the attack. Multiple opponents don't seem to be a problem.
This goes to the root of my problem, which is what if he's caught off-guard by an attack from an opponent he wasn't expecting to come from said opponent. From what you're saying, he's able to endure anything based on what he's seen of them.
Silicon Surfer
08-23-2009, 06:47 PM
This goes to the root of my problem, which is what if he's caught off-guard by an attack from an opponent he wasn't expecting to come from said opponent. From what you're saying, he's able to endure anything based on what he's seen of them.
He has fought large numbers of people with multiple powers without that being a problem AFAIK so presumably he is invulnerable to any attack from a known opponent. He is also probably the most powerful telepath in the DCU so an opponent that he is aware of surprising him in any way is probably pretty rare. In his place the first thing I would do when encountering a foe for the first time is scan his mind to learn all his powers and battle tactics even if I didn't plan to attack him mentally.
Majic Walrus
08-24-2009, 07:15 AM
*Waits to pounce on MajicWalrus' vote and reasoning*
I vote Despero because apparently Desak's amulet only works against Gods.
:dry:
I'm kidding of course. Desak wins, although he's not as good a character as Despero... and... Genesis and Hound both suck. :p
TheCorpulent1
08-24-2009, 11:20 AM
I'm going with Despero. Desak's amulet is useless against Despero since Despero's not a god, and his power level before merging with the Destroyer armor wasn't enough to stop King Thor, who's right around Despero's level--maybe even a bit under, given how easily Despero was tossing the likes of Superman and Captain Marvel around in JLA/JSA: Virtue and Vice. Plus, Despero's telepathic. That always helps in a fight against a non-telepath.
The_Mighty_Thor
08-24-2009, 03:57 PM
yeah but Supergirl has taken Despero on by herself before.
Anubis
08-24-2009, 04:01 PM
Did she win?
TheCorpulent1
08-24-2009, 04:03 PM
Wasn't that when it was Matrix as a super-powerful Earth angel or something?
Anubis
08-24-2009, 04:06 PM
Not only that but L-Ron was inhabiting his body at the time.
Genesis 1.0
08-24-2009, 06:20 PM
In a long, bloody, regenerative battle from Hela and back, Despero and Desak had a battle worthy of gods but it was the God Destroyer Desak who walks away with a slim 7-6 victory.
TheCorpulent1
08-24-2009, 06:28 PM
In a long, bloody, regenerative battle from Hela and back, Despero and Desk had a battle worthy of gods but it was the God Destroyer Desak who walks away with a slim 7-6 victory.
That mahogany finish can be a real bastard. :csad:
SuperFerret
08-24-2009, 06:32 PM
In a long, bloody, regenerative battle from Hela and back, Despero and Desk had a battle worthy of gods but it was the God Destroyer Desak who walks away with a slim 7-6 victory.
Despero was robbed! Here's an artists rendering of him shortly after defeating Desk.
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6472/despero1.jpg
See the mangled remains in the background? Proof!
Silicon Surfer
08-24-2009, 06:47 PM
Despero should have fought back instead of laughing so hard when he saw Desak's power level. I guess even Desak can pull out a win against an opponent who is laughing too hysterically to fight back.
Genesis 1.0
08-24-2009, 06:52 PM
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9700/wraith.jpg
Wraith
VS
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6809/cyborgo.jpg
Cyborg
Genesis 1.0
08-24-2009, 06:56 PM
Despero should have fought back instead of laughing so hard when he saw Desak's power level. I guess even Desak can pull out a win against an opponent who is laughing too hysterically to fight back.
Heh, wtf?
Surfer, Corp, AND Ferret all bitter about an outcome?:wow:
Damn, keep up the drama. Great for ratings.:cwink:
TheCorpulent1
08-24-2009, 07:01 PM
I'm not bitter, I just find misspellings funny. :oldrazz:
I'll go with Wraith for this match. He has too many weird powers that Cyborg doesn't seem to have counters to.
Silicon Surfer
08-24-2009, 07:06 PM
Wraith ftw.
Genesis 1.0
08-24-2009, 08:23 PM
Yeah, Wraith is a really unique character with a bright future if Marvel plays their cards right. Really untapped.
Victor on the other hand is an established powerhouse but hed definitely have some real problems with Wraith's abilities. Doesn't help that they can both heal themeselves from damn near anything.
2-0 Wraith
greenrage36
08-24-2009, 08:35 PM
I think I'll toss a vote to Wraith as well...too many unpredictable powers (as far as Cyborg is concerned that is)...
I'll go with Vic in a surprise upset victory.
Genesis 1.0
08-24-2009, 09:39 PM
Wraith's fresh, I was going in the Hawkman direction but his healing factor and soul consuming particles would overhwlem Hall. Then I was leaning toward Dr. Light, but I don't know if he'd be able to penetrate Arthur's shields, which would be a mismatch.
Stone's experience and raw power seem to be a decent counter to Wraith's unpredictablity.
3-1 Wraith
Anubis
08-24-2009, 10:31 PM
Wraith, crappy as he may be.
TheCorpulent1
08-25-2009, 08:52 AM
Yeah, I didn't see a lot of potential in Wraith, myself. He was a cosmic emo dude. We've already got one of those in Phyla.
Anubis
08-25-2009, 02:40 PM
She's a Cosmic Emo Lesbian/Dragon f**ker. Different animal really.
Genesis 1.0
08-25-2009, 04:18 PM
You don't see potential, first and foremost in a new cosmic character and in one that has the ability to travel through the air, has a weapon capable of forming itself into possibly any number of weapons, is apparently immortal, nearly immune to pain, has a Wolverine or higher level factor, and is capable of producing pure darkness due to creatures that devour souls?
Really?
And you like, who, Hercules?
Pffffffft.
4-1 Wraith
TheCorpulent1
08-25-2009, 04:20 PM
A character's more than just their powers. Wraith was a dopey emo b**** in Annihilation: Conquest. I went into his mini-series with as open a mind as anyone, but I found myself hating the guy as it progressed. By the time the A:C mini itself hit, I wished he would just go away.
Genesis 1.0
08-25-2009, 04:39 PM
A character's more than just their powers. Wraith was a dopey emo b**** in Annihilation: Conquest. I went into his mini-series with as open a mind as anyone, but I found myself hating the guy as it progressed. By the time the A:C mini itself hit, I wished he would just go away.
Powers are a primary part of who the character is, Peter Parker just isn't as interesting if he has a mundane powerset. I liked this character and it's not as if h's set in stone, lot of established characters have changed their personaities over the years.
He's fresh, he's got plenty of time, and I liked his attitude.
Anubis
08-25-2009, 04:56 PM
I don't even give a s**t about his powers. I went in looking for Space Clint Eastwood, and instead got a Space Fallout Boy roadie.
TheCorpulent1
08-25-2009, 05:22 PM
Yeah, they mis-marketed him a bit. I was expecting a hardcore, tough-as-nails Western badass too. The reality failed to live up to that expectation, though.
But to each his own. Even the red Hulk's got fans.
Genesis 1.0
08-25-2009, 05:29 PM
Never seen two people have a period 365 days a year.:o
You make the IWC look reasonable.
Anubis
08-25-2009, 05:29 PM
Mostly retards though.
TheCorpulent1
08-25-2009, 05:40 PM
Yeah, you know, I'm willing to chalk a lot of things up to playful banter, but you often cross the line into being outright obnoxious, Genesis, and this is one of those times. A simple disagreement about preferences for a character is no reason to get so snotty and start throwing insults.
And you quit encouraging him, Nubs.
Anubis
08-25-2009, 05:42 PM
Moi'?
Majic Walrus
08-25-2009, 06:31 PM
Wraith.
Genesis 1.0
08-26-2009, 04:23 PM
Yeah, you know, I'm willing to chalk a lot of things up to playful banter, but you often cross the line into being outright obnoxious, Genesis, and this is one of those times. A simple disagreement about preferences for a character is no reason to get so snotty and start throwing insults.
And you quit encouraging him, Nubs.
Are you seriously telling me you're taking what I'm saying to heart?
Really?
Mod or not, that's just sad. If that's the case, then Walrus and Aubis should be suing me for verbal abuse. In any case, to avoid further damaging your feelings, I'll avoid color commentary regarding anything you decide to throw up.
Ageed?
In other news:
The inexperienced, enigmatic Wraith sondly defeats the wily veteran Victor Stone 6-1.
Genesis 1.0
08-26-2009, 04:36 PM
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3545/twoface.jpg
Two Face
VS
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/2810/mysteriop.jpg
Mysterio
Location: Gotham City
SuperFerret
08-26-2009, 05:33 PM
Mysterio
Genesis 1.0
08-26-2009, 07:35 PM
Mysterio's illusions are damn good, but he's no deadly fighter. If he wants to win he's going to have to get in close or trick Two Face into falling off a cliff or some such. He comes into view and Harvey's gonna kill him.
1-0 Mysterio
Silicon Surfer
08-26-2009, 08:14 PM
Mysterio is one of the villains that I have never liked. I simply cannot suspend disbelief strongly enough to buy into the idea that anyone, even a little kid, would be fooled by illusions created by someone without powers. Someone like Mastermind yeah, very formidable. Mysterio, absolutely not. Two Face ftw.
Genesis 1.0
08-26-2009, 08:26 PM
Heh, Mysterio is damn good with those illusions, your dislike aside. He's managed to fool Peter on more than one occassion. I know you're not disputing that, so I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
If Mysterio can remain the Man Behind The Curtain, he's safe.
1-1 TIE
SuperFerret
08-26-2009, 08:30 PM
Mysterio's use of hallucinogenic gases makes his illusions more real and disorientating, and even if he shows himself, I'm not sure Harvey will be able to focus enough to shoot him dead.
Silicon Surfer
08-26-2009, 08:32 PM
I know that they are supposed to be effective having read the Spider Man comics for 40 years but despite that I cannot help but see Mysterio's illusions failing against everybody every time. Pure irrationality especially since I strongly prefer subtlety and finesse over power in general.
greenrage36
08-26-2009, 08:48 PM
Hmmmmmmmm...I think Mysterio might be able to score a 'beginner's luck' win over Harvey, but any match up past that...I just don't see fishbowl winning.
*Unless he pulls off some kinda coin-illusion that always favors Mysterio surviving (aka the non-scarred side always being shown after a toss)..he might be able to hold out for a win that way....although if I actually read that in a comic I might have to :whatever: a few times, lol.
SuperFerret
08-26-2009, 08:50 PM
I think Beck has a better chance at winning the more he knows about Harvey, that way he can design illusions to play off of Dent's already fragile psyche.
Genesis 1.0
08-26-2009, 09:39 PM
Ferret: That's the damn truth. Harvey's mind is held together with paper clips and chewing gum.
But that's what makes him so damn lethal.
2- Mysterio
Anubis
08-26-2009, 09:54 PM
You people are aware that that suit gives him super strength right? He'd crush Two Face like he was nothing.
SuperFerret
08-26-2009, 10:26 PM
You people are aware that that suit gives him super strength right? He'd crush Two Face like he was nothing.
I was not aware of this. Cool.
The_Mighty_Thor
08-26-2009, 10:43 PM
Mysterio
Hound55
08-27-2009, 02:53 AM
Without any prep time mentioned this becomes more even...
With it it may as well be against Arcade in Murderworld...
Even then I'll still say Mysterio... He's got enough tricks up his sleeves that Two Face will have trouble seeing the man behind the illusion...
With any serious amount of prep time Mysterio destroys Two Face though.
Majic Walrus
08-27-2009, 08:06 AM
Mysterio
Genesis 1.0
08-27-2009, 06:12 PM
I'll give Harvey a vote, he's one crazy mutha and he's going to let off a fe rounds on general principle at the start of the match before Mysterio has time to think.
Hell, Harvey's character has a long history with dumb luck.
6-2 Mysterio
Mazrim Taim
08-27-2009, 06:20 PM
Mysterio
Genesis 1.0
08-28-2009, 06:08 PM
Harvey Dent walks into a waking nightmare greater than his everyday life as the underrated Mysterio pulls a victory out of Two-Face's ass.
Genesis 1.0
08-28-2009, 06:12 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/xiancoymahn/50%20Comic%20Hotties/ComicHotties14.jpg
Raven
VS
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/40/75732-44406-scarlet-witch_super.jpg
Scarlet Witch
(Kurt Busiek Version)
{{REQUESTED MATCH}}
greenrage36
08-28-2009, 06:56 PM
mmmmm....I'll say Scarlet Witch
SuperFerret
08-28-2009, 07:01 PM
I'll toss Raven a vote.
Harvey Dent walks into a waking nightmare greater than his everyday life as the underrated Mysterio pulls a victory out of Two-Face's ass.
That sounds painful. :csad:
Silicon Surfer
08-28-2009, 07:17 PM
Raven
The_Mighty_Thor
08-28-2009, 07:19 PM
Wanda
Genesis 1.0
08-28-2009, 09:06 PM
I'll toss Raven a vote.
That sounds painful. :csad:
It was, just ask Harvey.:o
I'm going with Wanda, the Busiek version was a match for Raven in power, if not a little greater and her chaos magic was highly effective instead of streaky as she was originally.
It's going to be long, drawn out, and WEIRD, but I see Scarlet taking it.
3-3 TIE
Anubis
08-28-2009, 09:09 PM
Raven
It was, just ask Harvey.:o
I'm going with Wanda, the Busiek version was a match for Raven in power, if not a little greater and her chaos magic was highly effective instead of streaky as she was originally.
It's going to be long, drawn out, and WEIRD, but I see Scarlet taking it.
3-3 TIE
Gotta agree with that.
CanaryFan
08-28-2009, 10:58 PM
The Scarlet Witch
Genesis 1.0
08-28-2009, 11:43 PM
Weirdness abounds.
4-4 TIE
Majic Walrus
08-29-2009, 06:48 AM
Raven.
Chunin
08-29-2009, 03:50 PM
Scarlet Witch
WolfCypher
08-29-2009, 09:29 PM
I'll give this one to Scarlet Witch. Both have shown that when they totally lose control, all hell breaks loose, but Wanda can go so far as to alter reality. Raven just doesn't quite measure up at her fullest.
Genesis 1.0
08-30-2009, 01:09 AM
In a Battle of Epic Weirdness, nobody is more bizzare and unpredictable than Wanda. Chaos Magic trumps Dark Sorcery as the Scarlet Witch picks up the 6-5 victory.
Genesis 1.0
08-30-2009, 01:36 AM
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6682/powergirl.jpg
Power Girl
VS
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4276/thanosboom.jpg
Thanos
Silicon Surfer
08-30-2009, 03:53 AM
Thanos
Ace of Knaves
08-30-2009, 03:59 AM
Thanos.
SuperFerret
08-30-2009, 04:02 AM
Thanos
The_Mighty_Thor
08-30-2009, 05:13 AM
Thanos
greenrage36
08-30-2009, 06:26 AM
Um...Thanos...I think he's got an outside chance on this one..if he plays his cards right...no really, folks..he's the little cosmic train that could!!
Majic Walrus
08-30-2009, 11:46 AM
Boobs = Power
Power Girl Boobs > Thanos Boobs
Power Girl > Thanos
Power girl wins because she's awesome and she's got big boobs.
Genesis 1.0
08-30-2009, 02:55 PM
Nice Van Wilder Logic there, MJ. Miss the old Sting Avatar by the way.
Heh, this match is going completely different than I thought it would. Power Girl's an elite powerhouse in the DCU and pound for pound, the toughest female in either universe, with Barda thrown into the mix, IMO. Thanos is smarter by a wide margin and has a wider variety of powers, but Power Girl has him in Speed which usually factors so strongly into these matches.
Thanos is going to take a pounding in this one and Power Girl's main avenue for success is to end it as quickly as possible before Thanos has a chance to figure her out.
Wonder how his would have gone if I'd ued Captain Marvel instead.
5-2 Thanos
Nice Van Wilder Logic there, MJ. Miss the old Sting Avatar by the way.
Heh, this match is going completely different than I thought it would. Power Girl's an elite powerhouse in the DCU and pound for pound, the toughest female in either universe, with Barda thrown into the mix, IMO. Thanos is smarter by a wide margin and has a wider variety of powers, but Power Girl has him in Speed which usually factors so strongly into these matches.
Thanos is going to take a pounding in this one and Power Girl's main avenue for success is to end it as quickly as possible before Thanos has a chance to figure her out.
Wonder how his would have gone if I'd ued Captain Marvel instead.
5-2 Thanos
You can't leave Diana out when it comes to tough females in either verse.
Genesis 1.0
08-30-2009, 04:02 PM
Meh, ya break a few necks and all of a sudden you're badass. :o
:mad: You know damn well she shouldn't be left out :cmad:
Anyway PG knocks Thanos out w/ a swing of her boobs. I know I already voted, just figured I'd elaborate on how it would go down :o
PaleRider
08-30-2009, 04:53 PM
thanos, and it would be a long fight but not a hard fight for him.
Anubis
08-30-2009, 05:00 PM
Thanos
Genesis 1.0
08-30-2009, 07:53 PM
:mad: You know damn well she shouldn't be left out :cmad:
Anyway PG knocks Thanos out w/ a swing of her boobs. I know I already voted, just figured I'd elaborate on how it would go down :o
Yeah, I'm just messing with ya. I DO believe Barda's tougher and PG and her are about even.:o
Somehow I don't see the 'ol Boob Swing of Doom working on Thanos, especially if Skreet happens to see.
That's some bad mojo.:hehe:
Going to stand in defense of those lovely globes....and I mean her eyes.:cwink: Spped kills and I think she'll blitz Thanos before he can get settled.
8-3 Thanos
Silicon Surfer
08-30-2009, 09:43 PM
Will she get through Thanos' force field or will she flatten and k.o. herself? Thanos also has telepathy to fall back on and P.G. has never been mentally impressive in any way.
Majic Walrus
08-31-2009, 08:27 AM
Nice Van Wilder Logic there, MJ. Miss the old Sting Avatar by the way.
That's what I'm good for. :) Sting avvy went away with the survivor challenge it was related to. I changed to remember the banning of dearest Wiseman. :(
Wonder how his would have gone if I'd ued Captain Marvel instead.
What part of Mightiest Mortal don't you guys understand?
The_Mighty_Thor
08-31-2009, 08:44 AM
What part of Mightiest Mortal don't you guys understand?
What part of Titan don't you understand?
Nice Van Wilder Logic there, MJ. Miss the old Sting Avatar by the way.
Heh, this match is going completely different than I thought it would. Power Girl's an elite powerhouse in the DCU and pound for pound, the toughest female in either universe, with Barda thrown into the mix, IMO. Thanos is smarter by a wide margin and has a wider variety of powers, but Power Girl has him in Speed which usually factors so strongly into these matches.
Thanos is going to take a pounding in this one and Power Girl's main avenue for success is to end it as quickly as possible before Thanos has a chance to figure her out.
Wonder how his would have gone if I'd ued Captain Marvel instead.
5-2 Thanos
I kind of wonder how it had gone if you used Orion.
Anubis
08-31-2009, 10:26 AM
I'm not entirely sure Superman could beat Thanos, much less PG.
Genesis 1.0
08-31-2009, 03:37 PM
That's what I'm good for. :) Sting avvy went away with the survivor challenge it was related to. I changed to remember the banning of dearest Wiseman. :(
What part of Mightiest Mortal don't you guys understand?
Ah, well it kicks your current one's ass.:o
Oh Captain Marvel's had his ass handed to him before in this thread.
I kind of wonder how it had gone if you used Orion.
Consider it booked at a later time.
I'm not entirely sure Superman (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=327908&page=15#) could beat Thanos, much less PG.
Now that's a statement, Thanos' variety of powers and Intellect would definitely pose a problem. Good idea.
Thanos, One of the Greatest in all of comics blew the roof off with Comic's Hottest Superhero and proved that Titan Eternal trumps Kryptonian blood with a stunning 8-3 victory.
Genesis 1.0
08-31-2009, 05:11 PM
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2767/zauriel.jpg
Zauriel
VS
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1619/blackbolt.jpg
Black Bolt
Sparta*
08-31-2009, 05:18 PM
Ill go with Black Bolt
Genesis 1.0
08-31-2009, 05:26 PM
I felt this match would kick ass seeing as both of these guys are true heavyweights without the EXTREME physical strength and durability that we've seen in alot of the recent matches.
BB's got the most powerful voice in comics, matter mnipulation, concussive force blasts, the Master Blow, flight, AND force fields.
Zauriel has some superhuman strength, durability. He's also got damn good speed, a sonic scream of his own that's devestating, a bond with Magic itself, extreme fighting skills, nearly impervious armor, and oh yeah, a flaming sword controlled by his will that can cut through ANYTHING.
And when I say anything, I mean anything. Intangibles like Manhunter beware, you're not safe either. Hell, he can cut through dimensions and he makes it look easy and un-hax like unlike some I know....
Bottom line is this fight's going to level anything around.
1-0 Black Bolt
Anubis
08-31-2009, 05:41 PM
Eh, I'll throw one to Zauriel. Maybe he can cut through BB's bulls**t.
Genesis 1.0
08-31-2009, 05:51 PM
Voice bull***** or bull***** in general?
1-1 TIE
Anubis
08-31-2009, 05:54 PM
A little bit from column A, and a little bit from column b. :o
The_Mighty_Thor
08-31-2009, 06:13 PM
Black Bolt
SuperFerret
08-31-2009, 06:57 PM
Zauriel.
greenrage36
08-31-2009, 08:21 PM
Pretty decent match Gen :up:!
I think I'll go with Blackbolt, in the offchance he might be able to avoid the holy sword hack/slash.
Genesis 1.0
08-31-2009, 08:45 PM
Zauriel.
They made that Mountain Dew commercial for you.:wow:
Thanks, Rage.
If he does dodge a swipe from that sword, a Master Blow or a close range shout would probably reduce Zauriel to mush, armor or no.
It's just a close match.
3-2 Black Bolt
SuperFerret
08-31-2009, 08:48 PM
In all honesty, I kinda hate the commercial, since people took it more as "ferrets are more vicious than grizzly bears" as opposed to "grizzly bears are less likely to attack you than a ferret would".
But I've got a deathmatch coming up, so I need to look like I can maim someone.
Hound55
08-31-2009, 08:57 PM
Depends where it as to whether Black Bolt can unleash the voice because if he can Zauriel is f***ed...
PaleRider
08-31-2009, 09:46 PM
black bolt
Genesis 1.0
08-31-2009, 09:54 PM
In all honesty, I kinda hate the commercial, since people took it more as "ferrets are more vicious than grizzly bears" as opposed to "grizzly bears are less likely to attack you than a ferret would".
But I've got a deathmatch coming up, so I need to look like I can maim someone.
Heh, I always thought of them as reclusive little rodents, so I can't exactly champion your cause BUT I did draw the correct message from the commercial and I found it amusing.
Go SF!:cwink:
Hound: You know the drill, just run the simulation in your mind based on what you know.
I think it's clear he's going to use his voice, it just hinges on how effective Zauriel allows it to be i.e. escape, some sort of magical or heavenly shielding, ect.
Maybe even a scream of his own to cushion, deflect, or create enough of a bubble inside the blast to survive.
4-2 Black Bolt
Hound55
08-31-2009, 10:02 PM
Apologies, thought my choice was clearer.
Generally, Black Bolt since there's no stipulations that suggest anything that might tip the balance back towards Zauriel.
Because without such stipulations, Zauriel is f***ed.
Silicon Surfer
08-31-2009, 10:20 PM
Zauriel. Since he uses sonic attacks himself it is logical for his armor to have at least some resistance to sonic attacks or he would inflict damage on his own armor.
Hound55
08-31-2009, 10:46 PM
Zauriel. Since he uses sonic attacks himself it is logical for his armor to have at least some resistance to sonic attacks or he would inflict damage on his own armor.
Capable of defending the likes of Black Bolt..?
Anubis
08-31-2009, 10:51 PM
You don't think Armor made by God itself is strong enough to take a shout from a guy digs hairy chicks?
Hound55
08-31-2009, 10:56 PM
A lot of him's exposed...
I think the sound would reverborate inside the armour and Zauriel would trickle out of his boots in some kind of hommous like paste...
Silicon Surfer
09-01-2009, 01:04 AM
Electronic sound neutralization. :)
Genesis 1.0
09-01-2009, 06:09 PM
A lot of him's exposed...
I think the sound would reverborate inside the armour and Zauriel would trickle out of his boots in some kind of hommous like paste...
After a long and destructive battle, I see ^^^THAT as the end result. Not at all easy but Black Bolt would crawl to this one.
Black Bolt
6-4 Black Bolt
Majic Walrus
09-01-2009, 06:11 PM
Black Bolt. Here's how the fight goes.
Z: I am Zauriel defender of--
BB: **** you.
Game over.
Genesis 1.0
09-01-2009, 06:24 PM
You gotta give Zauriel way more credit than that. The sword and speed alone is trouble.
7-4 Black Bolt
Anubis
09-01-2009, 06:41 PM
If he can move Faster than the speed of sound. BB's kinda screwed. Pop up behind him and punch him in the back of the head. Game over.
Genesis 1.0
09-01-2009, 06:58 PM
Yeah....
The same way most of Superman, WW, Manhunter, Sentry, Gladiator, Surfer, ect. SHOULD blitz people and they DON'T 99% of the time. Zauriel never does and I see no reason to assume he will now.
He's going to take this one head on and eventually, in a damn good fight, he's going to lose.
Yeah....
The same way most of Superman, WW, Manhunter, Sentry, Gladiator, Surfer, ect. SHOULD blitz people and they DON'T 99% of the time. Zauriel never does and I see no reason to assume he will now.
He's going to take this one head on and eventually, in a damn good fight, he's going to lose.
If they wrote any of those guys to their potential, there would be no more crime or villains.
SuperFerret
09-01-2009, 07:16 PM
Black Bolt is also rarely ever written to use his voice, even in a tough fight, so it may not even be a factor.
Anubis
09-01-2009, 07:18 PM
Goes both ways, like a confused young flautist at band camp.
Genesis 1.0
09-01-2009, 09:25 PM
Black Bolt is also rarely ever written to use his voice, even in a tough fight, so it may not even be a factor.
Black Bolt's used his voice more often and more recently than any of those characters have blitzed someone lacking superior speed, much less Zauriel.
Saying Black Bolt won't use his voice in a fight is like saying Surfer won't use the Power Cosmic, or to the case, Zauriel won't use his Flaming Sword. It's their primary ability, of course they're going to utilize it.
No Pie For You!
Silicon Surfer
09-01-2009, 10:07 PM
Black Bolt has been subjected to intense conditioning since birth never to use his voice under any circumstances.
SuperFerret
09-01-2009, 10:19 PM
Black Bolt's used his voice more often and more recently than any of those characters have blitzed someone lacking superior speed, much less Zauriel.
Saying Black Bolt won't use his voice in a fight is like saying Surfer won't use the Power Cosmic, or to the case, Zauriel won't use his Flaming Sword. It's their primary ability, of course they're going to utilize it.
No Pie For You!
Black Bolt has, for years, only used his voice in the most dire of dire situations, but then again, Wolverine used to try and supress his inner animal, so I guess in the name of trying to be a badass, Black Bolt will soon be singing GWAR tunes everytime he shows up.
Genesis 1.0
09-02-2009, 07:49 PM
Black Bolt has been subjected to intense conditioning since birth never to use his voice under any circumstances.
...........
And that means absolutely nothing when he has used it. Oh and he's taken a nasty hit from Gladiator, I've got a good feeling he's more than durable enough to take on Zauriel.
The King of the Inhumans expands his territory to Heaven as he trumps one of their most deadly weapons in Zauriel after a 7-4 screamer.
Genesis 1.0
09-02-2009, 07:57 PM
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7066/kylerayner.jpg
Green Lantern: Kyle Rayner
VS
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5159/novaooe.jpg
Nova Centurion: Richard Rider with Worldmind
SuperFerret
09-02-2009, 08:01 PM
Nova's name is really Dick Rider? Wow.
The_Mighty_Thor
09-02-2009, 08:35 PM
Kyle
Genesis 1.0
09-02-2009, 08:48 PM
Nova's name is really Dick Rider? Wow.
I expect that from Walrus, but not you.:csad:
SuperFerret
09-02-2009, 08:53 PM
Your expectations of me are too high. I've always gone for the easy joke.
Anubis
09-02-2009, 09:07 PM
Rayner.
SuperFerret
09-02-2009, 09:09 PM
Also, I vote Kyle.
Genesis 1.0
09-02-2009, 09:11 PM
I'll go with Richard, he's just as innovatie, tough, powerful, and intelligent thanks to Worldmind. Perhaps I should have made that more clear in the match that this was before he lost Worldmind and that clusterf*** on Earth began.
He's got more than enouh power and he's got his own shielding capabilities s well.
4-1 Kyle Rayner
Silicon Surfer
09-02-2009, 10:07 PM
Nova
greenrage36
09-03-2009, 12:09 AM
Yowza...another tough match! I think if Richard can defend long enough, he might be able to to overcome Kyle when his ring juice is low...the only problem is, I don't think he CAN...and man, I love Nova!
So, GL for this win :csad:
CanaryFan
09-03-2009, 07:48 AM
I could see it going either way but I'll toss a vote to Nova.
Hound55
09-03-2009, 08:03 AM
Kyle, which is a shame because I really wanted to say Dick Rider...
Majic Walrus
09-03-2009, 08:06 AM
I expect that from Walrus, but not you.:csad:
I was going fo it but he just beat me to it.
Also this match I'm going with Rayner. If you'd like an explanation why just look up how the power ring of the Green Lanterns is the most powerful thing ever.
WolfCypher
09-03-2009, 04:44 PM
If it ain't Ion, then Nova.
Genesis 1.0
09-03-2009, 07:01 PM
I was going fo it but he just beat me to it.
Also this match I'm going with Rayner. If you'd like an explanation why just look up how the power ring of the Green Lanterns is the most powerful thing ever.
I KNEW it.:o
And no, Venom, it's definitely not.
If Nova can take and defend against Skrull armadas and the hordes of Annihilus, then he can hold off Kyle and then drop his ass.
7-4 Kyle Rayner
PaleRider
09-03-2009, 08:27 PM
I KNEW it.:o
If Nova can take and defend against Skrull armadas and the hordes of Annihilus, then he can hold off Kyle and then drop his ass.
agreed, Nova
Anubis
09-03-2009, 08:33 PM
Yeah, but, Rayner could do the same thing, so, what's your point?
trustyside-kick
09-03-2009, 08:37 PM
Kyle Rayner
Genesis 1.0
09-03-2009, 09:06 PM
agreed, Nova
Rider would so lower the boom on his ass.:o
There can be only one galactic police force in the comic universe and Kyle Rayner just ensured that the Green Lantern Corps remains #1 with a close run 7-5 victory over Nova.
Genesis 1.0
09-03-2009, 09:11 PM
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6384/betaraybill.jpg
Beta Ray Bill
VS
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7579/martianmanhunter.jpg
Martian Manhunter
Genesis 1.0
09-03-2009, 09:12 PM
I've been getting good feedback on nearly every match and this blockbuster follows in that tradition.
^You like planet destroying matches don't you? ;)
J'onn
SuperFerret
09-03-2009, 09:37 PM
My favorite martian.
Anubis
09-03-2009, 09:39 PM
Hmmm, i'll go Bill.
The_Mighty_Thor
09-03-2009, 10:11 PM
Beta Ray Bill
Genesis 1.0
09-03-2009, 10:21 PM
^You like planet destroying matches don't you? ;)
J'onn
To be fair, Bill's more of the smashing type, J'onn is more finesse.:o
2-2 TIE
Silicon Surfer
09-03-2009, 10:49 PM
Horse-Face Harry gets it in ways that cannot even be described on these boards. Martian Manhunter ftw.
Majic Walrus
09-04-2009, 08:57 AM
Yeah, but, Rayner could do the same thing, so, what's your point?
That's what I'm talking about!
Also J'onn owns this fight.
Genesis 1.0
09-04-2009, 03:11 PM
Horse-Face Harry gets it in ways that cannot even be described on these boards. Martian Manhunter ftw.
Heh, if you say so.
4-2 MM
CanaryFan
09-04-2009, 03:15 PM
Beta
Sparta*
09-04-2009, 03:17 PM
BRB for me
WolfCypher
09-04-2009, 03:43 PM
Manhunter
Genesis 1.0
09-04-2009, 09:09 PM
5-4 Beta Ray Bill
Hound55
09-04-2009, 09:49 PM
Man, I love J'onn, but I'm just having trouble seeing him take this short of phasing through BRB's brain... and I think he'll hold back on that just too long allowing Beta Ray Bill to get the drop on him.
J'onn has the ability to get it done but to me it would involve out of character actions... So I'll take Beta Ray Bill.
Silicon Surfer
09-05-2009, 12:45 AM
J'onn can enlarge himself thereby increasing himself enormously. Doing that while invisible would make the fight effortless. Since J'onn is himself a survivor of a destroyed culture when his telepathy tells him about Bill destroying world after world trying to kill Galactus the kid gloves will come off.
Genesis 1.0
09-05-2009, 01:11 AM
Beta Ray Bill pummels the Mighty Martian Manhunter into Green Jello after a knock down fight and a close 6-4 victory.
Genesis 1.0
09-05-2009, 02:13 AM
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4324/etrigan1.jpg
Etrigan The Demon
VS
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9913/ghostrider1.png
Zarathos controlled "Ghost Rider"
{{World War Hulk}}
Genesis 1.0
09-05-2009, 02:16 AM
For those who don't know, during the World War Hulk arc, it was quoted that Ghost Rider, rather thepower he draws on, was as strong as Green Scar Hulk and could have defeated him but chose not to. THAT takes a hell of alot of power.
And he's going to need it, the Chain, the Penance Stare, Hellfire Breath, and the Mystical Chains sprouting out his chest, neck, ass and wherever else to deal with the Demon.
WolfCypher
09-05-2009, 02:19 AM
Ghost Rider.
Mazrim Taim
09-05-2009, 02:42 AM
Ghost Rider
Silicon Surfer
09-05-2009, 02:56 AM
Ghost Rider
Hound55
09-05-2009, 04:51 AM
Although I normally wouldn't think purely down the line of:
x beats y
y beats z
Therefore x beats z... We're talking about a character that is supposed to be a match for Green Scar World War Hulk... ith the other guy being Etrigan the Demon.
While I'm open to hearing how I may be wrong I'll stick my vote with Ghost Rider...
Majic Walrus
09-05-2009, 07:19 AM
Yarva Demonicus Etrigan.
Change, change the form of man.
Free the prince forever damned.
Free the might from fleshy mire.
Boil the blood in heart of fire.
Gone, gone the form of man,
Rise the demon Etrigan!
The_Mighty_Thor
09-05-2009, 07:53 AM
The Rider
SuperFerret
09-05-2009, 11:49 AM
Etrigan, even though he's supposed to be a match for World War Hulk, I haven't seen actual evidence that backs that up, so Etrigan should be able to take him.
Genesis 1.0
09-05-2009, 12:32 PM
Etrigan's a real physical powerhouse who I wouldn't place beneath most of your superheroes, but in this case, he's actually outclassed in strength. I'd say he's slightly more versatile in the powerset department, but not by much. Both of these guys should be immune to flames so there's that.
Both Zatharos and Etrigan have matter manipulation skills and they're both ridiculously ruthless. I wonder how the Pennance Stare would affect the Demon....
6-3 Ghost Rider
Anubis
09-05-2009, 12:57 PM
The Rider
Genesis 1.0
09-05-2009, 03:27 PM
I'll go with Etrigan in a very close match. He's got a really nasty and versatile powerset AND he's shown himself Durable enough to take most of what Zarathos can deal, not all, but enough to live.
As long as he avoids the Pennance Stare.
7-4 Ghost Rider
CanaryFan
09-06-2009, 01:07 PM
The Demon
Ace of Knaves
09-06-2009, 01:26 PM
Ghost Rider in a very brutal and epic battle that I would love to see happen.
Genesis 1.0
09-06-2009, 01:30 PM
In a battle that rages from Hell and back again, Etrigan the Demon gives a Zarathos powered Ghost Rider all he can handle but in the end must pay Pennance as Ghot Rider wins 8-5.
Majic Walrus
09-06-2009, 01:56 PM
Gen I love your end of battle closing statements. :D
Genesis 1.0
09-06-2009, 02:01 PM
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9154/trigon.jpg
Trigon the Terrible
VS
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6259/dormammu.jpg
Dormammu
{{{Location: Negative Zone}}}
Genesis 1.0
09-06-2009, 02:03 PM
Gen I love your end of battle closing statements. :D
Heh, I figured it was better than saying "______ wins 8-5".
BAM! Take THAT traditional matches.:o
Anubis
09-06-2009, 02:04 PM
Trigon
Genesis 1.0
09-06-2009, 02:10 PM
That shot of Dormammu just looks so badass.
1-0 Trigon
SuperFerret
09-06-2009, 02:15 PM
Trigon.
Genesis 1.0
09-06-2009, 02:31 PM
On a naeutral field, Trigon seems to be getting the nod.
Personally, the amount of power Dormammu can bring to bear, which I think is slightly greater than Trigon, is tempered by a much greater factor in Dormammu's favor: Intelligence. He's far more intelligent and tactical than I've ever seen Trigon. THAT'S what swings it for me.
Dormammu
2-1 Trigon
Okay you went from planet shattering matches to universe imploding ones. Kudos :up:
Trigon after an epic war of mystic might
Silicon Surfer
09-06-2009, 04:05 PM
Neither of them usually display any subtlety or strategy to speak of. They so outclass their opposition that they take a very straightforward approach. Dormammu was stated early on to be more alien in thought than evil. Trigon on the other hand is nothing but evil and far less restrained in the use of his power. Trigon ftw.
Genesis 1.0
09-06-2009, 04:23 PM
Okay you went from planet shattering matches to universe imploding ones. Kudos :up:
Trigon after an epic war of mystic might
Hell yeah baby!
Surfer: I don't buy that Trigon is more evil in nature than Dormammu or that being alien in thought is somehow more restrained than being evil.
Trigon is a brute who shows very little in the way of strategy and has a terminal case of tunnel vision. Dormammu faces guys with a much higher visible IQ than Trigon, Strange to name the most obvious, and only loses in cases of plot machina. In addition, I've never seen Dormammu shy away from using power fo victory, ever.
4-1 Trigon
The_Mighty_Thor
09-06-2009, 04:28 PM
Dormammu
Silicon Surfer
09-06-2009, 04:40 PM
Dormammu is concerned with his own dimension above all else and doesn't use any more power than he thinks is necessary in order to ensure that he has enough power left to handle any problems in own domain. This still leaves him with enormous power which he doesn't hesitate to use to further his plans.
Genesis 1.0
09-06-2009, 05:04 PM
In all these fights, you assume they're playing for keeps and you bse that maximum based on on. By this set of criteria, I say Dormammu has the power and Intelligence edge and the victory.
4-2 Trigon
greenrage36
09-06-2009, 05:56 PM
I've give another vote towards Dormammu
Genesis 1.0
09-06-2009, 11:14 PM
4-3 Dormammu
Hound55
09-07-2009, 02:31 AM
Negative Zone?!?
Dormammu. And I think it's quite comfortable, personally...
Ace of Knaves
09-07-2009, 02:46 AM
Dormammu.
Genesis 1.0
09-07-2009, 12:30 PM
Negative Zone?!?
Dormammu. And I think it's quite comfortable, personally...
That's what I'm thinkng, it won't be a cake walk but Dormammu would eventually crush a basic brute like Trigon.
5-4 Dormammu
Majic Walrus
09-08-2009, 06:28 AM
Dormammu for me too.
Ahura Mazda
09-08-2009, 07:33 AM
Dormammu
That's what I'm thinkng, it won't be a cake walk but Dormammu would eventually crush a basic brute like Trigon.
5-4 Dormammu
Crush the guy who has reshaped the Earth on a whim?
Genesis 1.0
09-08-2009, 11:33 AM
Crush the guy who has reshaped the Earth on a whim?
..........
Basically.:o
In a battle that spans time, space, and one dark dimension, two of the most powerful and sinister characters in either Universe, Dormammu emerges victorious over Trigon 8-4 in a battle of Mystical One Ups-Manship.
Genesis 1.0
09-08-2009, 11:58 AM
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9308/archangelbadass.jpg
Archangel
VS
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/33/deathstroketheterminato.jpg
Deathstroke
Anubis
09-08-2009, 01:02 PM
Surprisingly interesting match. I'll have to think on this.
Genesis 1.0
09-08-2009, 02:03 PM
Surprisngly?
I've been pumping out damn interesting matches.
The_Mighty_Thor
09-08-2009, 03:01 PM
Warren
I gotta give you credit Gen, some damn cool match ups lately. I'm going with Mr Worthington as well
PaleRider
09-08-2009, 03:33 PM
I had to think about this one and I'm going to go with Archangel.
Silicon Surfer
09-08-2009, 03:54 PM
Sooner or later one of Warren's blades would connect. He throws them in such huge numbers that no matter how fast Slade is there will be one that he can't dodge. Archangel ftw.
Anubis
09-08-2009, 04:52 PM
Surprisngly?
I've been pumping out damn interesting matches.
I meant considering who is being used. I guess I should have said, I never woulda thought about those two going at it.
And I guess i'll go Archangel. They are an extremely good match really.
WolfCypher
09-08-2009, 05:13 PM
Slade
Genesis 1.0
09-08-2009, 05:39 PM
I meant considering who is being used. I guess I should have said, I never woulda thought about those two going at it.
And I guess i'll go Archangel. They are an extremely good match really.
Ah, I'm so used to our usual cutthroat banter.:o
And yeah, this is a really unusual match in my opinion. Most of the guys you'd throw at Slade are ground and pound, and even if you used someone with fight, he'd still probably end up nerfing 'em.
Warren is a really versatile, very underrated character whose powerset is ideally set for a guy like Wilson but hardly easy seeing as Deathstroke always carries a host of weapons that would prove problematic for anyone on the ground or in the air.
They're both insanely ruthless, but the amount of offense Warren can muster coupled with the fact that those blades come coated with a paralyzing agent seal it for me. Wilson's heaing factor will cure the problem but it's still going to take some time and the moment he slows down or worse, stops, Warren's going to skewer him.
Archangel
6-1 Archangel
Majic Walrus
09-09-2009, 06:11 AM
Deathstroke. Cause blah blah blah I'm gen blah blah blah Deathstroke is ruthless and he kicked the entire JLAs ass and you can call it abd writing but he's awesome on Marvel vs DCU too even though that's totally not cannon blah blah blah.
Silicon Surfer
09-09-2009, 06:17 AM
The poison is powerful stuff, even Wolverine was affected by it.
SuperFerret
09-09-2009, 07:40 AM
I so hate the metal wings on Warren. It's like someone was sitting around and thinking (and I use the term lightly), "hmm... Wolverine is popular and Angel isn't, so let's give Angel blades on his wings, because everyone knows that superheroes like to cut people up, and it'd be easier than trying to make him interesting without changing his powers".
That said, Archangel wins.
Genesis 1.0
09-09-2009, 06:45 PM
The poison is powerful stuff, even Wolverine was affected by it.
My point exactly and in that moment of paralysis, he's going to get sliced into pieces.
MJ: I wouldn't mind you telling me just how....
You know what?
It's just easier to say you're an idiot.:o
Thank You, Please Come Again.:hehe:
SF: Woah, what's with the Arch hate? I think they DID change his personality and modified his powers, yes, but it was withn complete correlation with his shift in personality. It's actually not that drastic a shift in abilities, it's more the attitude than anything.
What's more comic than a soft, good natured guy turning into a cold hearted bastard? Complete 180s are a fundamental part of comics and in some cases, character developmnt.
Worked for Bucky, Iron Man, and a crap load of other characters.
7-2 Archangel
SuperFerret
09-09-2009, 07:54 PM
It's more of a "I don't like my superheroes using lethal force" thing, which blades and poison fall under. Also, feathered wings look better, and did we really need another blue mutant?
BTW, I've got an idea for a match up, it came to me during my Anatomy final, I'll be PMing it to you shortly.
greenrage36
09-09-2009, 08:22 PM
Hmmm....
I think I'll go with Warren as well, although the argument that Warren will eventually catch up to Slade might be used the other way around too..I'm pretty sure Slade has prepared himself to fight against flying folks, and think this will actually be a pretty close match, especially if Warren's flight can be slowed or compromised
Majic Walrus
09-09-2009, 11:25 PM
My point exactly and in that moment of paralysis, he's going to get sliced into pieces.
MJ: I wouldn't mind you telling me just how....
You know what?
It's just easier to say you're an idiot.:o
Thank You, Please Come Again.:hehe:
SF: Woah, what's with the Arch hate? I think they DID change his personality and modified his powers, yes, but it was withn complete correlation with his shift in personality. It's actually not that drastic a shift in abilities, it's more the attitude than anything.
What's more comic than a soft, good natured guy turning into a cold hearted bastard? Complete 180s are a fundamental part of comics and in some cases, character developmnt.
Worked for Bucky, Iron Man, and a crap load of other characters.
7-2 Archangel
Am I suppsed to be MJ?
Seriously... You could've gone with Majic or Walrus or MW or Maj or Wal but you chose to go with MJ? Like Mary Jane?
Listen GI. Deathstroke has EVERY thing that Archangel has with the exception of flight. I don't think it's unrealistic to believe that poison feathers can be simulated by paralytic weapons that Deathstroke might carry... Although in reality he wouldn't need to use a poison feather because he could just SHOOT Warren in the ****ing bird head.
But do you know what Warren doesn't have? Enhanced mental capacity allowing him to be a super-tactician. Not only is Deathstroke like basically the bad guy version of Batman he's totally badass. Here's how this fight plays out.
Warren comes flying in shoots a poison feather at Deathstroke, it doesn't pierce his armor. Warren tries to hit him and Deathstroke cuts his face off. Then he says something badass.
:argh:
Also we need more DC emotes.
Majic Walrus
09-09-2009, 11:26 PM
Hmmm....
I think I'll go with Warren as well, although the argument that Warren will eventually catch up to Slade might be used the other way around too..I'm pretty sure Slade has prepared himself to fight against flying folks, and think this will actually be a pretty close match, especially if Warren's flight can be slowed or compromised
You know what compromises flying? Getting shot to death!
CanaryFan
09-10-2009, 07:28 AM
Worthington
greenrage36
09-10-2009, 12:29 PM
You know what compromises flying? Getting shot to death!
HA! Yeah..that's kinda what I hinted at..although truth be told, I'm sure Archangel has had guns/weapons fired at him before...maybe just once or twice though...
I still think if Arcangel presses his attack he can win this..before Slade has time to counter his moves/battle-plan, (granted it ain't gonna be too long)..
Sparta*
09-10-2009, 12:44 PM
Very close match but i'm going to go with Slade
Genesis 1.0
09-10-2009, 08:20 PM
Am I suppsed to be MJ?
Seriously... You could've gone with Majic or Walrus or MW or Maj or Wal but you chose to go with MJ? Like Mary Jane?
Listen GI. Deathstroke has EVERY thing that Archangel has with the exception of flight. I don't think it's unrealistic to believe that poison feathers can be simulated by paralytic weapons that Deathstroke might carry... Although in reality he wouldn't need to use a poison feather because he could just SHOOT Warren in the ****ing bird head.
But do you know what Warren doesn't have? Enhanced mental capacity allowing him to be a super-tactician. Not only is Deathstroke like basically the bad guy version of Batman he's totally badass. Here's how this fight plays out.
Warren comes flying in shoots a poison feather at Deathstroke, it doesn't pierce his armor. Warren tries to hit him and Deathstroke cuts his face off. Then he says something badass.
:argh:
Also we need more DC emotes.
That's probably the most reasonable and logical an argument I've ever seen from you.
Congrats.
Of course it's compleely wrong, but it is Maj.:awesome:
Slade Wilson, The Terminator, one of the most badass men in all of comics, discovers that even he must answer to the Archangel of Death as he falls to Warren Worthington 9-2, a crushing defeat.
Genesis 1.0
09-10-2009, 08:35 PM
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9724/drlight.jpg
Dr. Light
VS
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6068/marvelboy.jpg
Marvel Boy
Anubis
09-10-2009, 09:31 PM
Hmmm, I don't know. Dr. Rape I mean Dr. Light did beat the s**t outta like, 50 Titans. Only thing I ever seen Marvel Boy do was beat up the Runaways and the Kid Avengers.
Majic Walrus
09-11-2009, 05:59 AM
HA! Yeah..that's kinda what I hinted at..although truth be told, I'm sure Archangel has had guns/weapons fired at him before...maybe just once or twice though...
I still think if Arcangel presses his attack he can win this..before Slade has time to counter his moves/battle-plan, (granted it ain't gonna be too long)..
Archangel has probably been shot at before, but not by someone with the skills and abilities of Slade.
That's probably the most reasonable and logical an argument I've ever seen from you.
Congrats.
Of course it's compleely wrong, but it is Maj.:awesome:
Slade Wilson, The Terminator, one of the most badass men in all of comics, discovers that even he must answer to the Archangel of Death as he falls to Warren Worthington 9-2, a crushing defeat.
Thanks.
This is ********. :wall:
Majic Walrus
09-11-2009, 06:31 AM
Dr. Light would rape Marvel Boy.
:dry:
Silicon Surfer
09-11-2009, 06:49 AM
Dr. Light
Genesis 1.0
09-11-2009, 06:42 PM
Ah, the return of the Dr. Rape moniker.
Marvel's skill and abilities are quite formidable and he's more than powerful enogh topunch through damn near anything Arthur can throw up. He's also got the perfect set for a blitz. All it's going to take is one good shot from Marvel, be that energy or physical, and it's Lights out.
Tough as nails, Marvel's hands down more durable than Light.
Marvel Boy
3-1 Dr. Light
Anubis
09-11-2009, 07:33 PM
I think you underestimate his durability. He took a heck of a beating when he fought the titans.
WolfCypher
09-11-2009, 07:38 PM
Is Dr. Light in his right state of mind? Is this after he regained his "potential"?
Hound55
09-11-2009, 07:45 PM
To me Doc Rape has enough to keep Marvel Boy swinging, wear him down and take more than 50% of bouts.
Dr. Light.
Genesis 1.0
09-11-2009, 08:15 PM
I think you underestimate his durability. He took a heck of a beating when he fought the titans.
Magneto can wreak massive havok with groups but get in close and he's vulnerable. Their powers don't lie in durability, they rely on their power keeping their opponents at bay.
-Yes, no short changing here. Post-Potential.
4-1 Dr. Light
The_Mighty_Thor
09-11-2009, 09:56 PM
Marvel Boy
WolfCypher
09-12-2009, 12:09 AM
Dr. Light, Serial Rapist.
SuperFerret
09-12-2009, 12:13 AM
This guy:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/superferret/normal_drlight7.gif
Anubis
09-12-2009, 12:16 AM
That's his rape finger.
Mazrim Taim
09-12-2009, 08:36 AM
Noh-Varr, Heir of the mantel Mar-vell
SuperFerret
09-12-2009, 11:06 AM
That's his rape finger.
Funny thing is, that works regardless of whether it's Dr. Light or a cartoon George Lucas.
Genesis 1.0
09-12-2009, 10:14 PM
All Dr. Light heard was Marvel Boy and he went at it balls to the wall as he spanks Noh-Varr 6-3, a rock solid victory.
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