The Ultimate DC/Marvel Tournament

[JewishHobbit]

I'd like to say Spidey but I think Batman and Nightwing can take this. I think people are focusing too much on Batman and I think Spidey would too. To me, Nightwing will be what defines the victor.

[C.B.C.D]

It wont be easy, not by a long shot, but I think Spider-Man will be the last man standing. With more prep time Batman could pull it off, but 10 minutes to figure out Spidey aint enough time.

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Spidey kinda makes up his moves on the go so there's not much Bruce and Dick could do to prep for the fight and I don't know if Batman would be able to discern how Spidey knows exactly when to move to avoid a hit.

Spider-Man.

[3dman27]

Consider me bananas. Spider-Man

and yours truly as well spidey

[Docker2.0]

Spiderman. When Genesis said Batman had prep time, my first reaction was Spidey doesn't have a chance. But then I realized that Spidey is not as good as Bats with prep time but he also is no stranger to it. He moves twice as fast, 10x as strong(Spidey is a 10 ton guy but has shown to lift more), not to mention that spidey sense that warns of him of any attack coming..............I just don't see Bats and Nightwing winning this except for bad writing.

[Genesis 1.0]

Really?

You had to include prep time?

Prep time?

As soon as I saw those words...

I mean, he uses prep time to take down Superman! He's had prep time to stage contingencies against the Justice League!

Batman and Nightwing, and anyone who says otherwise is bananas.

.....Yeah, well with this many, it must be Gorilla City.:o

I'll throw down with Parker to end the beatdown.

Spider Man absolutely crushes Batman & Nightwing 10-2.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

What's he gonna learn about Spidey in 10 minutes..

How fast and hard he can punch you in the face.

[Genesis 1.0]

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Batman, Nightwing, & Green Arrow

VS


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Spider Man



{{{10 Minutes of Prep Time & Green Arrow starts the fight at a high vantage of his choosing.}}}

LOCATION: Gotham City

[Genesis 1.0]

NOW let's see a more balanced fight. With Ollie in the mix, he should be able to provide some cover for the Bat Boys. Of course once he's found, he's dead but until then, it might tip the scales.

Give Ollie 10 Minutes to stock up on ammo and this should be damn fun.

Can 3 Peak Humans defeat one superhuman?

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Ollie has the range and the most obvious dangerous weapons so he draws Spidey's attention first. That buys Bats an extra minute of prep time, maybe two on a good day for Ollie but it also puts on a show for Bats to see Spideys abilities in action. That does make it a lot closer but I still gotta go with Spidey!

[Genesis 1.0]

Well it's gotta be closer, Punisher's given Spidey a hard time on several occasions.

1-0 Spider Man

[Sparta*]

IMO Spider-man goes down hard here

Bat family

[PemLam]

Still bananas. Spider-Man

[louiebling$]

Yea in the end Spidey is walking out this one still standing

[LOBO3315a]

I voted for BB in the earlier one. Not sure why it didn't post yesterday (stupid phone). As to the current matches, I say Spiderman could take Batman and Nightwing but if you add Oliver in there I think it makes it more even. Still Parker has won over prevailing odds before, so I wouldn't count him totally out. I say Spiderman wins, but is almost totally dead.
Just don't add another Peak Human into the mix. Lol.

[SuperFerret]

Parker's still on top of this. Guy took out a team of X-Men (the actual important ones too), and giving him ten minutes of prep time would include him knowing basically the best vantage point for a certain archer to be, at the very least.

[3dman27]

again puny parkers alter ego takes the down

[Parker Wayne]

Spider-man because I recall him single-handedly taking on and holding his own against the X-men

[Anubis]

Yeah, but the X-Men suck.


He also got his ass whipped by the Enforcers as I recall. So, throwing up various victories over groups works both ways. I think GA would put the DC guys over the edge on this one. I mean, between sonic batarangs and sonic arrows, I think they could just overwhelm him.

[Obelisk]

Nobody has better chemistry than Bats and Grayson, not to mention 10 minutes to grab the best tech and probably heavily armored Bat Suit.

Throw in Arrow & Pete's ging down. I'll go with DCs Finest.

[louiebling$]

Spidey has taken ou the Sinister Six by himself...he can handle numbers

[Anubis]

Yeah, but the Sinister Six is usually comprised of idiots who don't work well with others.

[louiebling$]

True but ya can't argue that the SIX have a lot of different powersets that make up for their lack of cooperation whereas with bats/Nwing/Arrow have very similar fighting styles involving gadgets... Spidey will be able to pick up that rather quickly

[LOBO3315a]

Yeah, Spidey's unpredictable fighting style makes me think he closes the gap on Oliver, and KO's him in less time that it takes me to write this sentence. Then it's just 2 Pinnacle Humans who work really well together. To put it another way, do you think Captain America, Hawkeye and Bucky would stand a chance against Spidey? I don't think they would.

[louiebling$]

Me neither

[Mazrim Taim]

10 minutes and Bruce has the armor, gas explosive canisters, sonics, and plenty of things to go boom. Same for Ollie's trick arrows. Bat crew.

[PaleRider]

man this fight is really really hard for me. I think Spidey might take this but he would be hurt during it.

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Parker is also one of the top 7 geniuses of Marvel right? I think that should be taken into account too.

[JewishHobbit]

Well I thought Batman & Nightwing could take Spider-Man. Throw in Ollie to distract Spidey giving Bruce time to study his moves and it's a done deal.

Batman, Nightwing, Green Arrow

[Chunin]

The best analysis, fighting skill, and marksmanship in the dcu on 1 team? Ill go with those guys.

[Anubis]

Parker is also one of the top 7 geniuses of Marvel right? I think that should be taken into account too.


No, no, no. He's the dumbest Genius in Marvel.

[Docker2.0]

Spiderman. He's taken down teams before and he will do the same here.

[random_havoc]

Spider-Man has them webbed up by the end.

He can take multiple hits from beasts like Rhino, with that plus his superhuman speed/reflexes and spider-sense, there ain't nothing these guys can do to him.

[WildcatNC]

Spidey in a straight up fight, no prep time. To much superhuman for them.



Give Batman a few days to scout, prepare and do recon and the DC guys take him down.

[louiebling$]

Spidey in a straight up fight, no prep time. To much superhuman for them.



Give Batman a few days to scout, prepare and do recon and the DC guys take him down.
There's only 10 mins

[WildcatNC]

There's only 10 mins


Didn't see that the first time but I assumed very little, why I said Spider Man.


Just giving a nod to Batmans strengths. I think 10 min might be enough to take Parker out if they had already scouted him and knew his abilities/weaknesses/etc.


10 min total. Nah.

[Genesis 1.0]

I'll throw down with the Trio. Ollie's wreaking havoc at a distance with his best trick arrows, completely throwing Peter of balance. Batman and Nightwing working in tandem with various Wayne Tech and I wouldn't put it past Bruce to arm himself and Grayson in some heavier armor knowing how strong Spidey is.

They have the numbers, the experience, and as Anubis said, easily the brains category as well.

PUNISHER has nearly killed Spider Man. ALONE. WTF is keeping 3 guys better from doing worse? GTFO.

Batman, Nightwing, and Green Arrow


10-8 Spider Man

[CanaryFan]

If they all attack simultaneously with trick arrows, gas pellets and baterangs they have a good shot. Reflexes and spider sense won't do much good if there isn't a safe direction to move in and if they don't take him out on the first try they will set him up by attacking from 2 sides and leaving him one way to go but really they are leading him into the third shot. However if Spider-Man takes even one of them out the other 2 don't stand a chance.

I guess it depends on how the fight starts out. If the DC guys start out together at one end of a ware house/street/whatever and Spiey is at the other end Spidey will be on 1 of them before the can surround him and get any tactical advantage. If it starts with Spidey dropping in through the sky light right in the middle of them then they have a slight edge.

Could go either way but I'll vote for the Brave and the Bold

[steintym]

Spider-Man

[LOBO3315a]

Excellent choice, btw. This is one for the ages!

[scatterax]

spidey

[Sparta*]

really surprised spidey is getting so many votes...I think he'd get annihilated against batman, GA and nightwing

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

I'll throw down with the Trio. Ollie's wreaking havoc at a distance with his best trick arrows, completely throwing Peter of balance. Batman and Nightwing working in tandem with various Wayne Tech and I wouldn't put it past Bruce to arm himself and Grayson in some heavier armor knowing how strong Spidey is.

They have the numbers, the experience, and as Anubis said, easily the brains category as well.

PUNISHER has nearly killed Spider Man. ALONE. WTF is keeping 3 guys better from doing worse? GTFO.

Batman, Nightwing, and Green Arrow


10-8 Spider Man

What's stopping them from doing worse is the fact they they don't kill and maim like the Punisher and they don't have as much knowledge about Spidey as Punisher does.

[C.B.C.D]

When did Green Arrow join the fight. Not that it would matter much, Ollie doesnt work well with Batman so I think he'd be more of a negative than a positive.

[SuperFerret]

The Punisher is a lunatic and never seems to care where his bullets land (despite constant suggestions otherwise, I haven't seen anything that proves he does).

[Genesis 1.0]

What's stopping them from doing worse is the fact they they don't kill and maim like the Punisher and they don't have as much knowledge about Spidey as Punisher does.

Oh STFU with that bulls____.

Oldest and most lame excuse in the book: Person A won't Kill and therefore are less capable than Person B. Well Dick, Ollie, we can't kill so we might as well hang up the tights, we obviously can't kick any ass without murdering someone.

F'N Lame. :o

Spider Man swoops into a 3 on 1 situation with three of the DC Universe's Finest and gets all he can handle with extreme tech and explosives out the hizzle but in the end, it's not enough to overcome overwhelming power as Peter wins 12-9.

[Genesis 1.0]

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Steve Rogers: Captain America


VS

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Deathstroke the Terminator

[3dman27]

cap

[Crockett]

Cap as well.

[louiebling$]

FF******K... another tough one:argh:.. your on a roll Gen :up:

[Genesis 1.0]

Heh, why thank ya there partner. Mighty kid of ya. :O

2-0 Captain America

[PemLam]

I'll throw a vote to Deathstroke.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Cap

[steintym]

Cap

[Docker2.0]

Cap

[CanaryFan]

Deathstroke

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Deathstroke. Cap and Batman are on par with fighting abilities and it's been shown that Deathstroke has repeatedly and easily beaten the living crap out of Batman so there's nothing stopping the same thing from happening to Cap.

[Lobo]

Cap defeats his evil DC counterpart

[Sparta*]

Cap A!

[Genesis 1.0]

Daaaaaamn, didn't expect such an overwhelming number of votes for Rogers.

Personally, I'll throw down with Slade. He's shown greater use of both his reflexes and his intellect than Cap has even though they both are shining examples of Super Soldiers. In no way is Cap a slouch, so this won't be easy, but I think Slade will be able to calculate the odds and then overcome them.

Not to mention Slade's healing factor seems as good if not better than Cap's.

Deathstroke

7-4 Captain America

[louiebling$]

Since Cap is receiving a number of votes and ill be biased to him because he is my favorite comic book character... I'm going Deathstroke

[SuperFerret]

I think this was done before, and I'll vote the same. Rogers.

[trustyside-kick]

Deathstroke

[LOBO3315a]

Deathstroke. If you take 2 guys who are essentially the same in strength, speed and fighting ability, give one an impenetrable shield, and the other one a gun, 8 times out of 10 the guy with the gun is gonna win.

[Obelisk]

Balongna, Cap uses a shield better than anyone can use a gun. But i'll go Slade based on his greater brain.

[Anubis]

Cap. Doesn't matter if Slade has him in strength, speed, and healing. Cap finds a way. It's that unquantifiable Badass factor.

[JewishHobbit]

Deathstroke

[C.B.C.D]

I say Deathstroke.

Cap's edge is the shield, and in his hands its a huge edge. But Deathstroke will be fighting for the kill, and there is no limit to what he'd do to win. Cap would be holding back in that respect and limit himself by going for a capture.

[Mazrim Taim]

Deathstroke

[Chunin]

The man that uses more of his brain AND beat the JLA. Can Cap? I think not.

[SuperFerret]

He uses less of his brain.

[Parker Wayne]

Even though I think that fight against the JLA in Identity Crisis was BS, I'll say Deathstroke

[Anubis]

We have this stupid conversation everytime Deathstroke comes up. Somebody says he can use 90% of his brain, and somebody else points out that that's not really saying anything because you use 80% just walking and chewing gum at the same time. Some writer heard that old wives tale about how humans only use 10% of their brain and added that crap to Deathstrokes origin, not realizing that he was, in fact, using less of his brain than everybody else.

[trustyside-kick]

He uses less of his brain.

Ongoing battle because of how they STATE this ability. The point is, it is supposed to be that he uses his head faster and better. Bottom line. :awesome:

Never-ending argument please end, plx. :doh:

[WolfCypher]

Deathstroke

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Wait if Batman and Captain America are on par and Deathstroke BEAT the living tar out of Batman and told him he could kill him at any given time doesn't that give Deathstroke the advantage??

[Harlekin]

Who said Bats and Captain America are on par?

I give it to Cap as well.

[Genesis 1.0]

F____ me, PLEASE let that Deathstroke / JLA bull die already. :cmad:

14-10 Deathstroke

[PaleRider]

Cap. in an awesome fight

[trustyside-kick]

F____ me, PLEASE let that Deathstroke / JLA bull die already. :cmad:

14-10 Deathstroke

I believe that previous post was referencing one of the JLA/Avengers Crossovers.

[Genesis 1.0]

I believe that previous post was referencing one of the JLA/Avengers Crossovers.

Mmmmmkay and who doesn't know that?:o

[trustyside-kick]

Mmmmmkay and who doesn't know that?:o

Well you said "Deathstroke/JLA bull" and only scenario that would come to mind would be Identity Crisis. The comment you were responding to was mention Deathstroke fighting Batman and that didn't happen in Identity Crisis either. So I'm trying to understand what "Deathstroke/JLA bull" you are referring to because it was never brought up here. :oldrazz:

[WildcatNC]

This is a tough one.

I'm going with Cap. Deadpools daddy could very well take him though.

[Genesis 1.0]

The man that uses more of his brain AND beat the JLA. Can Cap? I think not.

:o

14-12 Deathstroke

[trustyside-kick]

:o

14-12 Deathstroke

This confusion wouldn't have happened if you quoted that post when you replied. :cmad: :o :doh: :awesome:

[Genesis 1.0]

lol, you should trust me more, Trusty. :o

[trustyside-kick]

Hey hey, the name infers that I'm a person you can trust, not that I trust you all. :awesome:

[Genesis 1.0]

lol, you hypocritical bastard. You and your misleading misnomers. :o

[SuperFerret]

We have this stupid conversation everytime Deathstroke comes up. Somebody says he can use 90% of his brain, and somebody else points out that that's not really saying anything because you use 80% just walking and chewing gum at the same time. Some writer heard that old wives tale about how humans only use 10% of their brain and added that crap to Deathstrokes origin, not realizing that he was, in fact, using less of his brain than everybody else.

Ongoing battle because of how they STATE this ability. The point is, it is supposed to be that he uses his head faster and better. Bottom line. :awesome:

Never-ending argument please end, plx. :doh:

I know. I just like telling people that Slade's 10% retarded.

[Anubis]

He uses his brain faster, and better than everybody else in the DCU, who apparently only use 10% if their brains....which means that everybody in the DCU is just barely functionally retarded.

[WolfCypher]

Not to mention Slade's healing factor seems as good if not better than Cap's.

It better be better than Cap's. Slade's taken bullets with great damage, but was still kicking. One little bullet, and Cap died. Just like that.

[Anubis]

Actually, it was four time bullets in his chest, and he didn't die.

[Genesis 1.0]

Fact Check Pwned. :o

[louiebling$]

flawless victory!

[Genesis 1.0]

In a ginormous turnout for an all around all star spectacle, the Marvel Universe's finest shining example of a Superhero, Captain America took on the DC Universe's Ideal Super Villain, Deathstroke the Terminator, but in the end, Good Triumphs over Epic Evil 14-12.

[Genesis 1.0]

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Cannonball & Iceman


VS

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Black Lightning & Booster Gold


{{{ Requested Match}}}

[WildcatNC]

Black Lite'nin and Booster Gold.

[louiebling$]

Cannonball and Iceman

[CanaryFan]

Team DC

[steintym]

Cannonball and Iceman

[Anubis]

Hmmm, I'll have to think about this one.

[Docker2.0]

Cannonball and Iceman. Difference maker is going to be Iceman. If he drops the temp just low enough, Booster Gold will be taken out of it making it 2 on 1 and I just don't see Black Lightning beating them both.

[Parker Wayne]

Black Lightning and Booster Gold

[PemLam]

Black Lightning/Booster Gold

[J'adore]

Black Lightning and Booster Gold

[Sparta*]

Sam & Bobby

[LOBO3315a]

Isn't Cannonball nigh-invulnerable when blasting, still? Wouldn't that make him very hard for team DC to take down?

Bobby and Sam FTW.

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah he's nearly invulnerable while in blast mode, but Booster has a nigh impenetrable shield and BL can use his own abilities to shield him, so it's not a knockdown victory on either side.

Seeing Bobby take on BL would be just AWESOME. I already know Booster and Sam are going to head straight for each other.

Personally? I dunno yet, it's gonna be damn close.

5-5 TIE

[SuperFerret]

Booster and BL. People forget, Booster survived a hit from Doomsday back when that meant something.

[Genesis 1.0]

He's also been hit and hit by blasts and been thrown several hundred feet or into buildings / the ground / etc and expressed pain.

Also note that he's been knocked out how many times since his inception? Obviously that shield isn't an end-all to attacks.

6-5 Black Lightning & Booster Gold

[SuperFerret]

It's not, but I think it'll stand up to a few Cannonball strikes.

[LOBO3315a]

Which is why I think Sam would go after BL after figuring out BG's shield can't be penetrated by him. BL can block bullets, but deflecting a man-sized object going as fast as Sam can is outside his power set, I believe.

With BL down, I think Bobby and Sam could come up with a way to take down Booster's artifacts.

[Mazrim Taim]

Cannonball inc

[Docker2.0]

Which is why I think Sam would go after BL after figuring out BG's shield can't be penetrated by him. BL can block bullets, but deflecting a man-sized object going as fast as Sam can is outside his power set, I believe.

With BL down, I think Bobby and Sam could come up with a way to take down Booster's artifacts.

Plus Bobby could freeze molecules or something like that. I just see Iceman being the x-factor here(yes pun intended!)and I don't see anyone taking him down if he plays dirty.

[Docker2.0]

Watch The Cape! Great show!

[Docker2.0]

double post

[Docker2.0]

triple post!

[Chunin]

Gold Lightning

[Chunin]

Gold Lightning

[Anubis]

I'm gonna go with Iceman and Cannonball.

[Obelisk]

The battle turns on the strongest and most experienced guy, Black Lightning. He'll be the last man standing.

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Team DC!

[PaleRider]

I think DC would pull this off.

[louiebling$]

The battle turns on the strongest and most experienced guy, Black Lightning. He'll be the last man standing.
BL Has more experience then Bobby? I dunno about that

[Genesis 1.0]

I'll go Cannonball and Drake, there's nothing Booster can really do to him but he can batter Booster into unconsciousness with sheer repeated force, while Drake will have his hands full with BL, Sam comes in for the assist and that's that.

Cannonball & Iceman


Seasoned vet meets the Comic World's Odds & Ends as Bobby Drake teams with Sam Gunthrie to take on the wily and powerful, Black Lightning and everyone's favorite Time Thief, Booster Gold. In the end, it's Booster's shield and BL's Power that delivers them a 10-8 victory.

[Genesis 1.0]

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The Creeper

VS

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Wolverine

[louiebling$]

Wolverine

Though I think Daken might have been more interesting

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

The Creeper. Wolverine can survive anything but he'd probably be incapacitated by the pain from Creeper's laugh which is already excruciatingly painful for normal people and more so for guys with super hearing. In hand to hand they'd be pretty tied up since they can both heal super fast. Nobody mention Wolverine's raging. Genesis won't like it :csad:

[louiebling$]

Wolverine's Berzerk is the Game Changer in this one :o

[Genesis 1.0]

The Creeper. Wolverine can survive anything but he'd probably be incapacitated by the pain from Creeper's laugh which is already excruciatingly painful for normal people and more so for guys with super hearing. In hand to hand they'd be pretty tied up since they can both heal super fast. Nobody mention Wolverine's raging. Genesis won't like it :csad:


You say something, boy? :argh:

1-1 TIE

[WolfCypher]

Wolverine.

It makes me happy to say.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Creeper

[LOBO3315a]

Good fight. Wolverine would win, but it would probably take days, and several berzerker rages for him to finish Creeper off.

[PemLam]

Berzerker rages FTW! Wolverine

[3dman27]

beware ...the CREEPER

[steintym]

Wolverine

[PaleRider]

creeper

[Anubis]

Creeper

[SuperFerret]

Creeper.

[Docker2.0]

Wolverine. They are dead even in different ways but in the end, I think Wolverine pulls it out some kind of way.

[Sparta*]

Creeper

great matchup Gen, had to think long and hard on this

[Genesis 1.0]

Thanks Sparta.

I'm going with Wolverine in a razor thin one, fact of the matter is he can literally chop Creeper up with his openings and Creeper simply can't to the same extent because of Logan's skeleton. Simple matter of time, it's going to take longer for Creeper to heal because of the inevitable extent of his injuries than it will Logan, thereby giving him that smaller edge that'll eventually deliver him Creeper's head.

Wolverine

7-7 TIE

[trustyside-kick]

Creeper

[scatterax]

wolverine

[Mazrim Taim]

Logan

[Chunin]

Wolverine

[Genesis 1.0]

10-8 Canada's Finest

[WildcatNC]

Wolverine.


He will use the discipline taught to him in Japan to control his anger rather than hack at him like hes chopping wood. Then he will deliver a royal arse whoopin using the martial training of a century of wars and spec op/martial arts training and honed instincts.

Creeper is stout, but Logan brings to much to the table.

[CanaryFan]

Creeper

[Genesis 1.0]

Wolverine.


He will use the discipline taught to him in Japan to control his anger rather than hack at him like hes chopping wood. Then he will deliver a royal arse whoopin using the martial training of a century of wars and spec op/martial arts training and honed instincts.

Creeper is stout, but Logan brings to much to the table.

Where's Anubis when you need him?:o


11-9 Wolverine

[Anubis]

Right here, rolling his eyes at the absurdity of that statement.

[Genesis 1.0]

Right here, rolling his eyes at the absurdity of that statement.

:pal::applaud:lmao:

Damn I knew it was coming.

[WildcatNC]

:pal::applaud:lmao:

Damn I knew it was coming.


I made sure to throw that in there for you. :cwink:

Its still accurate though. He's "the best there is at what he does" for a reason, and it isn't because he loses his temper.


:wolverine

[SuperFerret]

All he does now is lose his temper. Logan's a shadow of the interesting and good character he once was.

[Anubis]

Gotta go with what's current. What a character is more likely to do. And what he's more likely to do is get mad and start trying to go stabby, stabby.

[Obelisk]

Have to go with Creeper's greater agility.

[Silicon Surfer]

Creeper, everybody beats Wolverine.

[Genesis 1.0]

The unstoppable adamantium killing machine known as Wolverine takes on the light hearted screeching demon of Gotham City, The Creeper in a battle of the nigh immortals but in the end it's the Creeper lying in the gutter and Logan still the Best In the World At What He does with an 11-10 victory.

[Genesis 1.0]

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The Asgardian Destroyer

VS

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Superboy Prime

[C.B.C.D]

Superboy Prime would crack the Destroyer open like a tin can and suck out the energy.

[SuperFerret]

The Destroyer wins by default, as he has no opponent here.

[3dman27]

destroyer

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