The Ultimate DC/Marvel Tournament

[Hound55]

I think Huntress would outlast Nightwing IMO... I could see Nightwing entering the fray fists flying and getting his arse handed to him whilst Huntress hang back a little with the crossbow after seeing Cassie (who's a considerably better a martial artist) get her arse handed to her.

Any writer would Nerf Bats to last to the end because of his "Awareness" which would see him sit back to try and "figure out" his opponents, where he'd hit Cage with the gas... Leaving him and Huntress against Iron Fist.

And Fist would wax the pair of them...

[Anubis]

I really don't see IF handing Cassie her ass. In fact, if anybody out of that group would kick IF's ass, it'd be her. Having a fancy light show, super hard fists, and healing abilities that take significant concentration I might add, don't really mean dick against somebody that's just a flat out better fighter.

I think I maybe some of Youse guys need to check and see if you may have gotten bit by a zombie or something.

[Hound55]

I really don't see IF handing Cassie her ass. In fact, if anybody out of that group would kick IF's ass, it'd be her.
I agree, hand-to-hand, if anyone could hand Rand his arse it'd be Cassie... but I don't think she could. And I think she'd come in too fast thinking she could and get slapped down early.

[Anubis]

The whole point of being a great fighter Intel's that she knows when to go full throttle and when to sit back and read her opponent. Cassie isn't a freakin' armature. She's been beating dudes to death since she was six.

[Genesis 1.0]

Cassie has the best chance and that's not saying much. Using the Iron Fist, what damage can she do? She's going full throttle, he's not going to hold back and that's a Iron Fist in her face.

Game Over.

9-8 Bat Family

[Hound55]

She has been beating dudes to death since she was 6... and she hasn't run into anyone like Fist in that time. So I read that she'll go in punch happy and over-confident and get her arse handed to her.

She'd been beating dudes to death since she was 6 because she had to to survive... she's now pretty damn confident in her ability to do that. Overconfident to me, because she's never come across one like Rand. I think she'll be coming on fast thinking she could take him and get slapped down early, despite being the best fighter on the Bat-family side.

[Chunin]

Iron Fist

[Genesis 1.0]

I'm with Hound, Iron Fist would crush Cassandra with the Fist.

9-9 TIE

[trustyside-kick]

Iron Fist and Cage

[PaleRider]

I really think Anubis had the number 1 point when he brought up the gas, thats taking Cage out right there. that leaves Danny against the rest of them and as much as I love danny and think he could take anyone of them one on one or even two on one he's not taking all out by himself.

[Genesis 1.0]

I know there's no legal limit on weed since it's illegal, but if there were, you'd be about 10 times over it.:awesome:

Iron Fist would bust the ass and assorted genitalia of any single one of the Bat Family. He's an excellent fighter and then you throw in the Fist which magnifies his abilities exponentially? He's stronger, faster, more durable, more agile, with killer senses and all around more powerful than any of them alone.

Starting to think Teth Adam hacked your f'n account.:o

Cage and Fist have the power advantage, Bat Family has the number advantage but so does the Hand or AIM. And they've beaten Hand ninjas by the dozens.:hehe:

As to the match as a whole, these fools never lead off with gas; flash bangs, batarangs, crossbow bolts, Blind Fist (Cassandra Handicap Special :hehe: ) but gas? No f'n way, and by he time they DO realize anything else is useless, the following characters will be done after taking a ton shot:

Huntress
Cassandra
Tim

Which leaves Bruce and Dick to take on Rand, who's going to go to the Fist quickly as usual.

Did I mention his already sick martial arts and body are astronomicaly increased?

Or the fact that he's got f'n telepathy againt foes?

Wait it says he destroyed a train packed with more explosive power than the A-Bomb we dropped on Hiroshima and he survived almost unharmed......

Hiroshima > Batman & Nightwing :o


9-7 Bat Family

Logic, Pale Rider. Pale Rider meet Logic.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea I think Cage would get some hits in before he goes down. And one hit from him on normal humans is enough to put them out of commission.

[GlasgowBat]

hmm.......

the bat family. just cos'.

well ok, that's not fair. there are 3 reasons for this vote;

I think that the bat-family would sneak this one through strength in numbers and considerable experience fighting opponents much more powerful than fist and cage.

It will piss a lot of people here off, who have an illogical hatred for all things batman; a hatred rivaled only by my appreciation for all things batman.

and finally........bias aside, i still think they would win on account of the seemingly improbable wins they have accomplished in the past

so.....tough ****.

[Silicon Surfer]

In order for the gas to affect Cage's superhuman physiology it would have to be many times the lethal potency for their normal foes. So unless they have decided to kill off their rogue's gallery or are allowed to specifically prepare for Cage they should not be carrying anything that would do more than aggravate him. While the Bats do tend to be prepared, they also have limited space to carry things and do not fight anyone of Cage's power on a regular basis.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

If one gas pellet takes down most Batfoes then 3 or 4 should work on Cage. It doesn't need to be more lethal he just needs to take more in.

[Silicon Surfer]

Spiderman has walked through gas that would take out a human with little effect. Cage is more powerful and durable still. Superhumans in the MU have more resistance to gases, poisons, etc than normal humans even if they don't have a true healing factor. Cage's lung capacity is still more or less normal AFAIK so he isn't going to take in more gas than a normal human. This whole scenario presumes that Cage will fall for the attack anyway. Cage may not be a genius but he isn't stupid either. He should see that they are about to employ something and make some effort to avoid it even if he doesn't know what it is.

[PaleRider]

Logic, Pale Rider. Pale Rider meet Logic.
you do have a point with not leading with gas, but I think once Bats sees that nothing else is working on Luke he'd go to that. I don't think hydra or aim agents compare to the bat family though. Those guys are like cobra's vipers. And don't get me wrong I like Danny Luke a lot more then the Bat family. It breaks my heart but I stand by my vote.

[Anubis]

Spiderman has walked through gas that would take out a human with little effect. Cage is more powerful and durable still. Superhumans in the MU have more resistance to gases, poisons, etc than normal humans even if they don't have a true healing factor. Cage's lung capacity is still more or less normal AFAIK so he isn't going to take in more gas than a normal human. This whole scenario presumes that Cage will fall for the attack anyway. Cage may not be a genius but he isn't stupid either. He should see that they are about to employ something and make some effort to avoid it even if he doesn't know what it is.


Spider-Man has a low level healing factor, Luke Cage does not.

He's just durable as hell. Still has to breath just like everybody else.

[Hound55]

you do have a point with not leading with gas, but I think once Bats sees that nothing else is working on Luke he'd go to that. I don't think hydra or aim agents compare to the bat family though. Those guys are like cobra's vipers. And don't get me wrong I like Danny Luke a lot more then the Bat family. It breaks my heart but I stand by my vote.
At which time I would think Cage and Fist would have already picked off quite a few...

I was going to suggest Hydra vs Kobra to Gen a while back, myself...

[Anubis]

Kobra's got those snake men and the dark mystics and s**t, but Hydra has had everything from giant robots to Avenger Clones, could really go either way.

[Genesis 1.0]

Why not the Hand? If there's anyone famous for overwhelming numbers, it's them.

Rider, the point is that Cage is going to take down at least 3 of the Bat Crew before they manage to gas him. Their group gets cut in half and Danny in Fist mode can take any 2 of the Bat Crew.

Again, even if it pisses on the multitude:

Hiroshima > Bat Family

10-10 TIE

[SuperFerret]

Gen, you take suggestions on matches involving non-DC/Marvel characters, right?

[Anubis]

Umbrella Academy vs the X-Men.

Spaceboy owns all.

[SuperFerret]

I was thinking Abe Sapien vs Nightwing in a sewer.

[louiebling$]

I would want to see The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles with Casey Jones Vs Daredevil,Elektra and The Hand.

[SuperFerret]

Wait... Umaga died?

[louiebling$]

Wait... Umaga died?
Yea he died yesterday of a Massive Heart attack

RIP

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah he did, haven't you checked a news wire lately?

[Genesis 1.0]

Gen, you take suggestions on matches involving non-DC/Marvel characters, right?

You know, it's called DC / Marvel but I've been thinking about it.

Han Solo vs Deadshot

Optimus Prime vs Iron Man

Hellboy vs Solomon Grundy

At least one of those is mixed.:awesome:

[SuperFerret]

Yea he died yesterday of a Massive Heart attack

RIP

Yeah he did, haven't you checked a news wire lately?

I don't watch the news. That's too bad. :csad:

You know, it's called DC / Marvel but I've been thinking about it.

Han Solo vs Deadshot

Optimus Prime vs Iron Man

Hellboy vs Solomon Grundy

At least one of those is mixed.:awesome:

Next match, please!

[Genesis 1.0]

Alright, done deal.

Waitin on Dread to send me the verdict on the current match.

[Genesis 1.0]

Judge Dread Has Spoken:



That sounds like hardly a fair fight; 2 vs. 5. Especially if we are talking the Bruce Wayne Batman in addition to his close associates, including Cassandra Cain, who was a fighting dynamo.

Even if one includes Iron Fist's new moves from his Fraction/Brubaker run, the "Bat-Family" takes this. Being outnumbered two to one would be alright if they were fighting generic HYDRA or Hand ninja, but these are five who can outfight dozens of opponents, including some metahumans (such as Killer Croc, who is essentially Luke Cage, only maybe weaker). Batman, of course, has no end of gadgets and prep-time. Cain alone could probably give Danny Rand a challenge, especially considering he's been defeated in fights by types such as the Cat (a two-bit Shang Chi wanna-be) and Black Panther. Luke Cage is potent, but he still has to breathe, and he is fighting at least 3-5 people who are known to use gas pellets.

I imagine Power Man & Iron Fist put up a considerable show, but this is really nothing the Batman 5 can't overcome. The only way the Marvel duo win is if they can TKO Batman quickly and just overwhelm the rest with sheer power, but I don't think they have enough. Not only has Batman fought many threats alone and with the JLA, but Nightwing was a Teen Titan as well. Robin and Huntress I see as the weak links of the Batman 5, but still good enough to serve as distractions. I mean, Batman was once able to land on his feet after a throw from Spider-Man, who has superhuman reaction time.

Cage & Rand lose, but to be honest, with 2 on 5, this is hardly a fair fight. Now if one had thrown in the Daughters of the Dragan and Shang-Chi, maybe it would be more fair.

Yeah, yeah, some of you chumps said nearly the same thing. Spare me. :o

Bat Family win 11-10.

[louiebling$]

Nexy match please :)




O and Gen you should strongly consider this match :o :awesome:
I would want to see The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles with Casey Jones Vs Daredevil,Elektra and The Hand.

Just saying :o

[Genesis 1.0]

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/1742/hellboy.jpg

Hellboy

VS

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/583/solomongrundy.jpg

Solomon Grundy

[Genesis 1.0]

You bastards stop rushing me. :o

0-0

[louiebling$]

Hellboy is winning this one

[[A]]

Hellboy.

[Genesis 1.0]

Got a bad feeling Hellboy is going to unload several massive holes in Grundy's chest before this is over.

Hellboy

3-0 Hellboy

[Docker2.0]

Hellboy but neither is a Marvel you bastard!! :argh:





But I love you man, in a straight non-homo way. :o

[Genesis 1.0]

Hey, that's what was requested by SF.

4-0 Hellboy

[Johnny Blaze]

Hellboy

How about busting out some Fables characters in the next match?

[Majic Walrus]

This match is a little unbalanced. Hellboy wins.

[Docker2.0]

Hey, that's what was requested by SF.

4-0 Hellboy

Next match I want Mika Tan vs. Jessica Lynn with a lot of whip cream involved. Deal?

[PaleRider]

damn I feel like this is going to be a land slide victory for Hellboy and that sucks cause this could go either way. The way Grundy was written in his most recent series he was almost like the dc hulk. Let me think about this one.

[Anubis]

Well, technically it is unbalanced, but not in Hellboy's favor. Grundy is usually waaaayy stronger, but, Hellboy usually finds a way to win. He's got like, the Thing's heart, only he manages to actually win most of the time. When it comes down to it, Grundy's still just a zombie. Wont be easy though.

[Hound55]

Depends on which version of Grundy we're talking...

High end Grundy was practically unstoppable, but he generally wasn't that level.

I can't go by "most recent" because I couldn't tell you where that would have him on the power scale...

Generally Hellboy would beat him, though.

[SuperFerret]

I think Hellboy would win (and it seems that the votes will go that way), but Grundy will kick the s**t out of him until Hellboy finds a way to put the zombie down.

That said, I'm going to throw Grundy a vote, because the actual fight would be a lot closer than the votes are making it seem.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea I think we would see the usual Hellboy tactic. Get smashed all over the place then finally, somehow, pulls out the win.

It would be a good fight but I'm going Hellboy because he has use of his brain and has the right hand of doom!!

[Silicon Surfer]

Grundy

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Solomon Grundy, cause this ain't Saturday!

[PemLam]

Grundy

[PaleRider]

Hellboy, but after he takes a real bad beating.

[GlasgowBat]

i suppose hellboy would end up winning this, after getting slapped around for a good wee while

[Sparta*]

Grundy

[Genesis 1.0]

Next match I want Mika Tan vs. Jessica Lynn with a lot of whip cream involved. Deal?

Deal.

As soon as the Hype gets an Adult Section.:awesome:

Hellboy always gets slapped around a bit but that just demonstrates his durability but Grundy is going to push that to the f'n limit.

What do ya get when you bring an unstoppable zombie and a demon with a drinking problem and a penchant for violence together? A great f'n fight. Innocents killed, buildings toppled, and plenty of Grundy's bootprints in Hellboy's ass but in the end, Hellboy puts Grundy back to sleep with a really big gun and an 11-5 victory.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6247/optimusprime1.jpg

Optimus Prime

VS

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4746/ironmansz.jpg

Iron Man

[IDW // Marvel]

[Anubis]

Optimus f**king Prime

[Genesis 1.0]

Heh, I knew it. :o

Tony's definitely out of his league in size but that's nothing new.

1-0 Optimus Prime

[SuperFerret]

Iron Man.

[Majic Walrus]

Optimus, really? Not that Optimus isn't a bad ass but I think he's a little outclassed here. Iron Man is smaller and therefore a harder target to hit. Combine that with Tony's raw power and I think Iron Man could whup Optimus pretty squarely.

[Genesis 1.0]

Optimus isn't going to suffer from a lack of eye coordination like Tony's human foes, he's using Cybertron's finest in tech and I'm quite certain he can track and lock onto Stark. He's stopped missles and things of that nature, he can blow of hole in Tony and considering the size and variety of weapons, there won't be much left when he does. Nevermind the fact that Prime has the Power & Experience edge.

Tony USES tech, Prime IS tech.

1 good hit from Optimus puts Tony out of comission long enough for Prime to finish it.

Several hits for Tony to take down Prime.

Optimus Prime

2-2 TIE

[SuperFerret]

Tony uses tech, and Prime is tech, but Tony's taken down giant robots before, and he doesn't have to hold back because there's no risk of killing anyone, since y'know, robot.

[PaleRider]

Optimus f**king Prime

amen, yes thats a vote for Prime

[Genesis 1.0]

Tony uses tech, and Prime is tech, but Tony's taken down giant robots before, and he doesn't have to hold back because there's no risk of killing anyone, since y'know, robot.

So Optimus Prime is just another giant robot? :dry:

Optimus is a sentient robotic creature with a soul (Spark) and an insane amount of yars of experience fighting all manner of foes. You might as well compare the Hand to the JLA because 'there's aot of 'em and stuff'.:o

Prime is going to blow the Iron off Tony, leaving a simple man.

3-2 Optimus Prime

[SuperFerret]

Still a robot. Sentience and an artificial "soul" doesn't make him a "creature". As for everything else, we'll agree to disagree.

[Docker2.0]

Wow. Can't believe Prime is leading in votes against IM. IM would defeat Prime with ease. I know Prime is lovable and all but c'mon! He's just a giant robot that changes into a truck!


Tony for the win!

[[A]]

Iron Man.

[louiebling$]

Wow. Can't believe Prime is leading in votes against IM. IM would defeat Prime with ease. I know Prime is lovable and all but c'mon! He's just a giant robot that changes into a truck!


Tony for the win!
No this is not gonna be easy for Tony.

I'm going with Prime on this one.

[Docker2.0]

Other than transform and shoot a gun, what else can Prime do? He's probably around the 75 ton class while Tony is 100 class with tons of weapons. IM easily.

[Silicon Surfer]

Iron Man. Prime is just another tin can to be flattened. An emp would probably mess Prime up pretty good.

[Anubis]

Dudes, seriously, it's optimus F**king Prime. He's Captain America, only a 30 foot robot. There's noway in hell Stark can take him.

[Docker2.0]

I love Prime like the next man Anubis but dang.......he's just a robot.

[Anubis]

And Stark is just a dude in a suit, what's your point?

[Docker2.0]

A dude in a suit with tons of weapons. Prime hasn't shown he can do anything except fight as a robot, transform and shoot guns. Where as IM has all kinds of weapons, Tony is a genius and has banged plenty of chicks.

[SuperFerret]

Anubis's post made me realize something. Prime is naked.

[Docker2.0]

Anubis's post made me realize something. Prime is naked.

Dude has a T on his penis. Does that mean he has a tick or tenis? :huh:

[Anubis]

Here's the fight. Stark flies around a bit, shoots Prime with Repulsers, Prime slaps him outta the sky like a gnat, then puts his big as gun in his face and obliterates his ass.

[louiebling$]

A dude in a suit with tons of weapons. Prime hasn't shown he can do anything except fight as a robot, transform and shoot guns. Where as IM has all kinds of weapons, Tony is a genius and has banged plenty of chicks.
What the **** does tony's women have to do with a fight :huh:

[Docker2.0]

Ah the mysteries of life. :awesome:

[Sparta*]

Optimus I guess?

[Genesis 1.0]

Here's the fight. Stark flies around a bit, shoots Prime with Repulsers, Prime slaps him outta the sky like a gnat, then puts his big as gun in his face and obliterates his ass.


It'll take longer but that's the basic summary. Tony's losing all of his usual advantages, he can't really elude or use speed to disorient his opponent and he's not een bearing the most firepower.

As to the 75 ton comment; 1, I don't buy that at all, Prime's being underrated. 2, so Tony hasn't been beaten by guys with 75 tons or less?

Surfer, a race of sentient robots that created a civillization that makes anything on Earth look like crap never figured out how to shield themselves from EMPs while the drastically less advanced human beings have? Really?

EMPs not goig to do shiz.

5-4 Iron Man

[Anubis]

Pfft, EMP. Prime has sex with EMP's for breakfast.....yeah.

[SuperFerret]

That doesn't sound like a nutritious part of this balanced breakfast at all.

[Anubis]

But it certainly gets the transistors moving.

[SuperFerret]

But there's no orange juice. :csad:

[Silicon Surfer]

No electronics that I know of are immune to emp, including Marvel Earth's. When Magneto cut through the shield intended to cut him off from Earth, he was stated to have crashed every computer on Earth except the X-Men's. This would include those of Reed and Doom. If their tech can't resist an emp that isn't even specifically targeted at them what are the odds that Prime will resist an emp that is targeted at him.

[louiebling$]

No electronics that I know of are immune to emp, including Marvel Earth's. When Magneto cut through the shield intended to cut him off from Earth, he was stated to have crashed every computer on Earth except the X-Men's. This would include those of Reed and Doom. If their tech can't resist an emp that isn't even specifically targeted at them what are the odds that Prime will resist an emp that is targeted at him.
Because He is from another Planet..... its not the same tech as earths.

[Anubis]

Boosh!

[Genesis 1.0]

Exactly.

Earth's evolution has only included machines for a relatively short time. Prime's entire planet and it's inhabitants ARE machines, so their resistance and insight are focused on this.

Unless you think the entire planet goes down during solar flares like an AT&T phone in the wilds of Alabama. :o

[SuperFerret]

Who made the Transformers? Do they ever say anything about that?

[Anubis]

The Quninticons or however you spell their name.

[SuperFerret]

I'm guessing by their name that they're machines too. Something biological has to have invented them somewhere along the line.

[Hound55]

Well... this turned theological in a hurry...

[PemLam]

Prime

[Anubis]

I'm guessing by their name that they're machines too. Something biological has to have invented them somewhere along the line.

They're kind of a mix of both really.

here's something else. Cybertron is also a giant robot like Unicron, called Primus.

[Docker2.0]

Genesis is really losing it. Faster with the matches! :argh:

[Anubis]

You're just mad because you voted wrong and it's starting to catch up with you. :o

[SuperFerret]

Well... this turned theological in a hurry...

It's not theological, I'm not saying that a diety must've created them, but they are machinery, and machinery just doesn't spring up into existence on its own or evolve the same way that life does. Something alive must've had its hands in it somewhere along the line.

[Genesis 1.0]

Genesis is really losing it. Faster with the matches! :argh:

Damn, and here I am trying to be good thisweek. Haven't got all Hulked out and taken the shovel to someone's ass or anything and here you go rushing me.:doh:

In the words of Big Worm:

"First of all, don't be callin' here like you some straight up G, cause I'll cut ya balls off and hand 'em to ya, partna'. "

5-5 F'N TIE

[Docker2.0]

You're just mad because you voted wrong and it's starting to catch up with you. :o
Tis a tie so if i'm wrong, so are you. :o
Damn, and here I am trying to be good thisweek. Haven't got all Hulked out and taken the shovel to someone's ass or anything and here you go rushing me.:doh:

In the words of Big Worm:

"First of all, don't be callin' here like you some straight up G, cause I'll cut ya balls off and hand 'em to ya, partna'. "

5-5 F'N TIE

You are quoting a guy who's nickname is basically a penis?! :doh:

[Genesis 1.0]

You seem rather fixated on the man meat lately.

I'm not saying it's a window into your soul but....

It's a window into your soul. :o

[Ace of Knaves]

DUN DUN DUNNNN!!!!

I'm going for Prime. I just don't see how Stark can really hurt him. Enough to put him down anyway. Whilst Prime could hurt him physically by smashing him with his fists or with his wide array of weapons. And I agree I think all Transformers would be immune to Earth created EMPs.

So Prime.

[Genesis 1.0]

One of Earth's Finest hereoes takes on Cybertron's Last Prime, in a battle of epic proportions. Tony lets it all hang out with Repulsors at max and missles raining but in the end, his technology fails him in the face of the invincible Optimus F'N Prime with a 6-5 victory.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6818/captmarvelsupes.jpg

Captain Marvel & Superman

VS

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6614/thorbill.jpg

Thor & Beta Ray Bill

[Genesis 1.0]

Can you feel that?

Don't worry, it's just that Big Match feel baby. http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/733/gunsmiley.png

[louiebling$]

I don't know who the DC guys are :(

[SuperFerret]

Superman and Stand-In-Shadows-Man

[Silicon Surfer]

i have no idea who the guy with Superman is.

[SuperFerret]

Possibly that Geo-Force loser or whatever his name is.

[louiebling$]

So Superman and who?

[PemLam]

So it's basically Superman versus the Thor twins. If it's Geo-Force, he's pretty much a non-factor.

[SuperFerret]

Jumping to conclusions, I'm gonna give this to the Hammer Bros.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

No idea who that is either. Image title says Supermand uo?

[SuperFerret]

Superman Duo. :awesome:

[Genesis 1.0]

F_____ me. I was in a rush ladies, hell I didn't even have time to throw down the names there.

Fixed.

0-0

[Silicon Surfer]

Superman and Captain Marvel

[[A]]

Captain Marvel and Superman.

[SuperFerret]

I'm sticking with Team Thor.

[louiebling$]

Thor and Beta Ray Bill

[Genesis 1.0]

Heh, I can see Thor and Bill flaunting their hammers while Clark & Marvel crack their knuckles.

2-2 TIE

[Anubis]

Thor and Bill

Either one of them would own the Big Red Cheese, which means Supes versus the two of em. No chance.

[Teth-Adam]

thor is a god, but marvel has the combined power of 7 gods. he is one of the greastest fighters of the dc universe, and doesnt really have any weaknesses. he is immeasurably powerful, and has beaten superman several times.

Captain marvel and superman win

[The_Mighty_Thor]

thor is a god, but marvel has the combined power of 7 gods. he is one of the greastest fighters of the dc universe, and doesnt really have any weaknesses. he is immeasurably powerful, and has beaten superman several times.



Ummm, no! He has attributes from 7 gods not the total power from each of the 7.


Thor and Bill

[Teth-Adam]

he has the greatest attributes of seven gods, the best of them. and is by far more powerful than thor, and superman is capable of beating bill

[Teth-Adam]

how can peple question shazams power, when he is a more powerfull version of superman, minus the vunerablities.

[Anubis]

Because after they go at it for awhile he's gonna try and do the SHAZAM trick, both being able to control whether, lightening, all that, will simply direct it back at him, turning him back into a kid. It wont work on Superman, it damn sure ain't gonna work on Thor or Bill.

[Docker2.0]

Thor and Bill

Either one of them would own the Big Red Cheese, which means Supes versus the two of em. No chance. What this guy said.

he has the greatest attributes of seven gods, the best of them. and is by far more powerful than thor, and superman is capable of beating bill

But it's not by Thor's graces that the lightning even strikes Billy to turn to Captain Marvel. So Thor and Bill get this.

[Teth-Adam]

its magic lighting, it wont obey thor, it can only be controlled by shazam. shazam rarely use the lightning anyway. also, i dont think its going to take him that long to beat thor,

[Anubis]

He always uses Lightning. He does that trick everytime he comes up against somebody he can't just beat the f**k out of, and he wont be able to beat the f**k outta Thor or Bill. Wisdom of Solomon my ass.

[Teth-Adam]

I think he just might be able to, and even if he does use it, so what, he wouldnt use it to change, and thor wouldnt have power over it.

[Teth-Adam]

I think he just might be able to, and even if he does use it, so what, he wouldnt use it to change, and thor wouldnt have power over it.

[SuperFerret]

Thor is a god, Shazam is a wizard. Gods can usually trump wizards, anyway, there's nothing to say that Thor can't control magic lightning.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

It's not magic lightning, it's just magically summoned. It's been stated in CM comics numerous times so I wish people would quit saying that. Thor prevented the Lightning from turning Billy back into CM in the Marvel DC crossover. It obeyed him just fine there.

When it comes down to it they all have incredible power and are all in each others ball park range. This ain't gonna be won by who's the most powerful, it'll be won by how they use that power. I'll put my money on the warrior born over the boyscout and the little kid in a super heroes body!

[Anubis]

Lightnings lightning, magic or otherwise. Even if he couldn't flat out control it he could absorb it into Mjolnir or Stormbreaker (depending on who is kicking his ass at the moment.) and redirect it right back at him. So either way he's f**ked. Also, pictured is classic Cap'n marv. Unless Gen states otherwise (That it's SHAZAM aka the sidekick formally known as Captain Marvel Jr.) he touches that lightning, he's turning back into a kid.

[Silicon Surfer]

Either Superman or Captain Marvel could solo both Thor and Bill with relatively little difficulty. Far greater strength, super speed and Superman's heat vision put most of the advantages on their side. The only chance Thor and Bill would have is to use magic instead of physical combat which Thor does very rarely and Bill AFAIK not at all.

[Anubis]

Dude, seriously, it's time to get outta the 70's. These dudes are physically equals in strength. This crazy thought that somehow Supes and CM are stronger than either of them is ridiculous.

[Silicon Surfer]

Dude, seriously, it's time to get outta the 70's. These dudes are physically equals in strength. This crazy thought that somehow Supes and CM are stronger than either of them is ridiculous.

Even the more recent stuff, like moving the moon, places Superman into and entirely different strength class than Thor. What is ridiculous is trying to compare their strength at all because it doesn't compare. I don't like the modern Superman at all and wasn't really crazy about the pre-crisis one either but they are both vastly more powerful than Thor physically.

[SuperFerret]

Why are superheroes constantly moving the goddamn moon? I bet global warming is their fault.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Thor has never tried to move the moon so how do you know he couldn't? Thor has lifted the world serpent which is large enough to surround the entire earth and it fights back, I bet that's a much tougher feat. Superman's heat vision would mean very little to a guy who has stood in the center of the sun. If Supes vision was one millionth as hot it would set the earths atmosphere on fire every time he used it.

[SuperFerret]

Thor has never tried to move the moon so how do you know he couldn't? Thor has lifted the world serpent which is large enough to surround the entire earth and it fights back, I bet that's a much tougher feat. Superman's heat vision would mean very little to a guy who has stood in the center of the sun. If Supes vision was one millionth as hot it would set the earths atmosphere on fire every time he used it.

Thor knows better.


Vote Thor if you love kittens! (Kittens hate global warming. Honest, just ask one.)

[[A]]

Even the more recent stuff, like moving the moon, places Superman into and entirely different strength class than ThorSeriously.. wtf? What was that about..? I don't keep up with current storylines so..

[Anubis]

He moved War World, which was the size of the moon, but, after he took a dip in the freaking sun and got a power up. Conveniently forgotten details there Surfer. ;)

I'll go you one better. Bill was destroying planets in his battle with Stardust. No super special power ups either.

[Silicon Surfer]

Thor has never tried to move the moon so how do you know he couldn't? Thor has lifted the world serpent which is large enough to surround the entire earth and it fights back, I bet that's a much tougher feat. Superman's heat vision would mean very little to a guy who has stood in the center of the sun. If Supes vision was one millionth as hot it would set the earths atmosphere on fire every time he used it.

The World Serpent's entire weight wouldn't add up to anything close to the moon. Thor also couldn't lift the serpent because anything that size would still have virtually all of it's body on the ground even when Thor was lifting the part he was holding. In the myths IIRC Thor didn't actually get the serpent off the ground but impressed the giants nonetheless.

[Anubis]

And yet, he did. It's a f**king comic book. Technically Supes shouldn't be able to move a planet. He would push right threw.

[Silicon Surfer]

He moved War World, which was the size of the moon, but, after he took a dip in the freaking sun and got a power up. Conveniently forgotten details there Surfer. ;)

I'll go you one better. Bill was destroying planets in his battle with Stardust. No super special power ups either.

I wasn't referring to the War World incident about which I have never heard. I was referring to the incident, about which I have only seen scans, in which Superman, WW and I think MM moved the moon. Why they did it I have no clue.That War World must be a real tiny one if it is only the size of the moon. The original pre-crisis version went behind a star and was still visible while doing it.

[Anubis]

Bring that one up too, you already mentioned the fact that it wasn't Supes alone, it was GL, and Wonder Woman helping. (Awesome scene in an awesome story by the way. MM was on the Watchtower with all the White Martians as they scrapped the moon across the Earth, setting the moon on fire!) Those other two weren't fake lifting. If anything, Kyle was doing most of the work.

[CanaryFan]

It's hammer time!!!!!

Thor and BRB.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

The World Serpent's entire weight wouldn't add up to anything close to the moon. Thor also couldn't lift the serpent because anything that size would still have virtually all of it's body on the ground even when Thor was lifting the part he was holding. In the myths IIRC Thor didn't actually get the serpent off the ground but impressed the giants nonetheless.


In the comics he did lift the serpent. How would you know how much the fictional world serpent weighs? Thor is supposed to be 6'6" but he's supposed to weigh 640lbs. Plus the moon is floating in space where it weighs nothing. I could push the moon through space if it wasn't in earths gravitational pull. Superman didn't lift the moon's weight, he fought the gravitational pull to get it where he wanted it. The world serpent is closer to earths gravity, is probably equal or bigger in size and fights back. That's still the bigger feat. Plus Thor has never tried to move the moon. Saying Superman is stronger because he accomplished something his opponent has never tried is ridiculous.

[Anubis]

Well, Captain America never tried to move the moon. :o

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Then for all we know he could be stronger than Superman.:oldrazz:

[Majic Walrus]

As much as I love the Captain he's not enough to take out Thor and Bill. Supes is a non-issue because Thor could take out Supes pretty easily.

Superman is vulnerable to magic. Like the kinds Gods use. Like Thor.

Captain Marvel could take down Bill or Thor easily, but not both.

Thor and Bill. :(

[Docker2.0]

My gawd Majic. First you make crazy post about Bats beating Caps. Now you make good post about Thor beating Supes. Hard for a guy to insult you that way! :argh:

[Anubis]

Pretty Easy? Get the f**k outta here. Best either of em is gonna do is hold Supes until Cap inevitably f**ks up. When are people gonna realize that that whole vulnerability to magic ain't what it's cracked up to be. Supes, whose supposedly vulnerable to magic, took seven mystical blasts of SHAZAM's lightning in that fight in Kingdom Come. Anybody else would been dead after the first, and despite the bleeding ears, he won that fight. He's taken blasts from Ancient Sorcerers, fought Titans, even managed to not die from a Hephaestus made tiara slicing his throat. Magic hurts, but it's anything but an automatic win.

[Docker2.0]

I don't think Thor can beat Supes easy, but I do think Thor can beat him 6.5/10.

[Anubis]

I can agree to that.

[Silicon Surfer]

Thor is also vulnerable to heat. And Superman can roast him as easy as looking at him.

[Anubis]

Well, that depends. Only time he's ever been shown to be vulnerable to heat was when he fought Bill, before that and a few times after he's done everything from survive a nuke at ground zero to walk into a Volcano.

[Silicon Surfer]

Well, that depends. Only time he's ever been shown to be vulnerable to heat was when he fought Bill, before that and a few times after he's done everything from survive a nuke at ground zero to walk into a Volcano.

Sorry but I have to take those stories with a pound of salt. A grain isn't enough.

[Anubis]

One instance trumps several as long as it fits your world view? Do you work for Fox News?

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Once again, Thor has stood in the center of the freakin sun! If Supes heat vision was one millionth of that heat he would ignite the earths atmosphere. Supes can't hurt Thor with heat vision.

[Hound55]

Pretty Easy? Get the f**k outta here. Best either of em is gonna do is hold Supes until Cap inevitably f**ks up. When are people gonna realize that that whole vulnerability to magic ain't what it's cracked up to be. Supes, whose supposedly vulnerable to magic, took seven mystical blasts of SHAZAM's lightning in that fight in Kingdom Come. Anybody else would been dead after the first, and despite the bleeding ears, he won that fight. He's taken blasts from Ancient Sorcerers, fought Titans, even managed to not die from a Hephaestus made tiara slicing his throat. Magic hurts, but it's anything but an automatic win.
Agreed.

Magic is A weakness.

Having a chunk of Kryptonite is your best counter measure, then a long, LONG way down the track magic is your next one.

The fact that you have a better chance against him bringing magic than you would going toe-to-toe doesn't mean that David Copperfield can come out in the swishy pants and pick him apart... It just means that he's relatively vulnerable to it compared with his otherwise freakish durability.

And Heat vision isn't going to bother Thor either... its already been explaine why.

To me its most likely that Bill or Thor will pick Billy's ass and the double will see them dispose of Supes.

I think given enough time one could pick Supes apart solo... but Captain Marvel will get beaten before it comes to that for the reasons Anubis has already mentioned. The second he realises BRB or Thor aren't getting one-shotted he'll try the lightning and it'll be over fast.

[Genesis 1.0]

Damn Docker, you're turning into a Marvel Walrus. When's the last time you went DC?:hehe:

One instance trumps several as long as it fits your world view? Do you work for Fox News?

HEY! None of that FOX bashing while I'm around ya whipper snapper.:cmad:

On another note, while reading through the last 3 pages, I've laughed my ass off hard ad I have you to thank for that.:awesome:


thor is a god, but marvel has the combined power of 7 gods. he is one of the greastest fighters of the dc universe, and doesnt really have any weaknesses. he is immeasurably powerful, and has beaten superman several times.

Captain marvel and superman win

This post makes my eyes rain. :csad:


7-4 Thor & Beta Ray Bill http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/733/gunsmiley.png

[Sparta*]

Supes and Marvel

[Ace of Knaves]

This will be a planet smasher! I think the hammer twins have got enough, just barely, to take out the boyscout and the wizard.

[Silicon Surfer]

I believe that Thor also stated his weakness to heat in his battle with Firelord when Firelord came to Earth looking for Gabriel. Thor in the sun or withstanding a nuclear explosion is ********. That is far above his durability level as it has been for the last 45 years. Marvel in the 90's specifically placed him in a durability category 3 places below that required to survive a nuclear explosion. They placed him in the Superhuman category. Changes do occur to characters yes, but not that radically. If he had the Odinpower to use to protect himself I could accept it but without that, not a chance. He simply doesn't have that power and an individual writer cannot give it to him against the weight of the entire history of the character and the decisions of management, even past management that may not be in power any longer. It would require a decision of management and even then It would have to be done with a degree of rationality behind it. I don't accept that something is true about a character just because it has been shown in a comic or two and Marvel itself has said the same thing in the past. Marvel has said something to effect that a comic is an individual writers retelling of the original event not the event itself which may not have occured as the writer showed it.

[Ace of Knaves]

I thought Thor did have the Odinpower at the moment?

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I believe that Thor also stated his weakness to heat in his battle with Firelord when Firelord came to Earth looking for Gabriel. Thor in the sun or withstanding a nuclear explosion is ********. That is far above his durability level as it has been for the last 45 years. Marvel in the 90's specifically placed him in a durability category 3 places below that required to survive a nuclear explosion. They placed him in the Superhuman category. Changes do occur to characters yes, but not that radically. If he had the Odinpower to use to protect himself I could accept it but without that, not a chance. He simply doesn't have that power and an individual writer cannot give it to him against the weight of the entire history of the character and the decisions of management, even past management that may not be in power any longer. It would require a decision of management and even then It would have to be done with a degree of rationality behind it. I don't accept that something is true about a character just because it has been shown in a comic or two and Marvel itself has said the same thing in the past. Marvel has said something to effect that a comic is an individual writers retelling of the original event not the event itself which may not have occured as the writer showed it.

So basically what your saying is that only the events that fit your personal preference or suport your favorite characters winning a battle are real and all others are BS! Thor has been shown as resistant to heat more times than he has been shown to be effected by it. The writers couldn't come up with another way to have him lose to Bill so the wrote in a weakness for heat without checking his past history. Your own quote above shows how crap like that happens and how the marvel company as a whole explains it away. Thor has fought Mephisto, Satur,fire breathing monsters, flame weilding demons, stood in the middle of explosions, battled in the Asgardian realm of fire demons, been in volcanos and stood in the sun. He has proven himself uneffected by heat more times than I can remember or could count but you give us one story where some dumb ass writer says he's vulnerable to heat and call it proof and then go on to make the above quote? You just made my day!:o

[GlasgowBat]

....there are some occassions which make me dspair for the futute of the human race.

this is one such occasion.

Captain Marvel has the individual speciality powers of 7 gods. Strength, speed, durability and wisdom being four of them. He is the strongest, possibly fastest, easily toughest character in this fight, and i'd bet the wisdom of solomon makes him the most intelligent as well. As for the lightning issue, th only evidence that thor could control the lightning is found in the DC/marvel crossover....which also had storm beat wonder woman and lobo lose to logan. so i'm not even going to consider that as anything other than nonsensical drivel...and anyone who cites it as nonsensical peddlers of drivel.


superman is....well, superman. Any fight with thor is going to be a close one. The way i see it, superman and marvel have the edge.

[louiebling$]

I think we should bring Corp in to settle this Whole Thor/Heat Weakness, or even Dread.

[SuperFerret]

Just in case anyone really cares, Captain Marvel has the attributes of 2 gods, a demigod, a hero, a king and a titan. Black Adam is actually the member of the Marvel family that has the attributes of 6 deities.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Just in case anyone really cares, Captain Marvel has the attributes of 2 gods, a demigod, a hero, a king and a titan. Black Adam is actually the member of the Marvel family that has the attributes of 6 deities.

Mary had the power of 7 gods.

[SuperFerret]

Mary had the power of 7 gods.

Not really. Hippolyte and Ariadne weren't technically goddesses, though they have connections to various gods.

And it's 6, SHAZAM has six letters.

[Genesis 1.0]

So basically what your saying is that only the events that fit your personal preference or suport your favorite characters winning a battle are real and all others are BS! Thor has been shown as resistant to heat more times than he has been shown to be effected by it. The writers couldn't come up with another way to have him lose to Bill so the wrote in a weakness for heat without checking his past history. Your own quote above shows how crap like that happens and how the marvel company as a whole explains it away. Thor has fought Mephisto, Satur,fire breathing monsters, flame weilding demons, stood in the middle of explosions, battled in the Asgardian realm of fire demons, been in volcanos and stood in the sun. He has proven himself uneffected by heat more times than I can remember or could count but you give us one story where some dumb ass writer says he's vulnerable to heat and call it proof and then go on to make the above quote? You just made my day!:o

Never thought I'd say his again.....

Surfer, You Just Got Served. http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/733/gunsmiley.png

Glasgow: I don't even bother correcting you anymore, it's kinda pointless.


Just in case anyone really cares, Captain Marvel has the attributes of 2 gods, a demigod, a hero, a king and a titan. Black Adam is actually the member of the Marvel family that has the attributes of 6 deities.

Nice to have that cleared up for Glasgow & Teth.

8-6 Thor & Beta Ray Bill

[Anubis]

I thought Thor did have the Odinpower at the moment?


Technically at the moment his Hammer has the Odinpower in it.

[Ace of Knaves]

Ahh ok. Thanks. Well that means Thor is a bit of a beast at the mo does it not? More beastly than he used to be anyway?

[Anubis]

Kinda remains to be seen. Guess we'll see when he and Doom go at it.

[Silicon Surfer]

So basically what your saying is that only the events that fit your personal preference or suport your favorite characters winning a battle are real and all others are BS! Thor has been shown as resistant to heat more times than he has been shown to be effected by it. The writers couldn't come up with another way to have him lose to Bill so the wrote in a weakness for heat without checking his past history. Your own quote above shows how crap like that happens and how the marvel company as a whole explains it away. Thor has fought Mephisto, Satur,fire breathing monsters, flame weilding demons, stood in the middle of explosions, battled in the Asgardian realm of fire demons, been in volcanos and stood in the sun. He has proven himself uneffected by heat more times than I can remember or could count but you give us one story where some dumb ass writer says he's vulnerable to heat and call it proof and then go on to make the above quote? You just made my day!:o

I also referred to the Master Edition Handbook which represents the official decision of the management which contradicts your position as of that time. You conveniently ignore that. The decisions of management take precedence over any number of stories. I believe that the story with Firelord came before the BRB story although I am not certain. If so the incident with BRB would have been the second occasion of which I am aware. Neither story contradicts any previous story that I can recall ever reading. Although Thor possesses some enhanced durability due to his great strength and the physiology that supports it he has no actual invulnerability. This has been implied by the fact that he has over the years used his hammer to protect himself from bullets, and used it to absorb energy blasts before they could hit him. Where have the Marvel editors supported your viewpoint? They have supported mine.

[Johnny Blaze]

Thor and Bill

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I also referred to the Master Edition Handbook which represents the official decision of the management which contradicts your position as of that time. You conveniently ignore that. The decisions of management take precedence over any number of stories. I believe that the story with Firelord came before the BRB story although I am not certain. If so the incident with BRB would have been the second occasion of which I am aware. Neither story contradicts any previous story that I can recall ever reading. Although Thor possesses some enhanced durability due to his great strength and the physiology that supports it he has no actual invulnerability. This has been implied by the fact that he has over the years used his hammer to protect himself from bullets, and used it to absorb energy blasts before they could hit him. Where have the Marvel editors supported your viewpoint? They have supported mine.

First no where in the handbook does it say Thor is weakened or vulnerable to heat. Also in the most recent version of the handbook Thor is listed at the highest level of durability.

Second the handbook means absolutely nothing if the management doesn't instruct their writers to reference it, which they obviously don't. The handbook isn't written by management or editors and it isn't reviewed with any more scrutiny than any other book put out by the company. It's just another book they can put out cheap to make money off of.

Third management didn't decide to have Thor tell firelord he was weakened by heat or to have him stand in the sun, the writers did that. The editors allowed and published both stories.

Fourth Thor using his hammer to deflect bullets is on par with him telling firelord he is weakened by heat. It's one stupid example of bad, uniformed writing amidst hundreds maybe thousands of stories where he either said or showed that he was invulnerable to mortal weapons. That includes having bullets bounce of his body before.

Finally where have the editors supported my viewpoint? How about when they published hundreds of stories as described in my previous post. See the editors review each script before the comic gets the go ahead to be illustrated. If it makes it to publication that means the editors approved of it. So on the one hand we have your two out of character examples that made it to publication and on the other hand we have my hundreds of examples that got published. Yeah, the editors are really on your side and you're clearly winning this debate!:whatever:

[PemLam]

Supes and CM

[Silicon Surfer]

First no where in the handbook does it say Thor is weakened or vulnerable to heat. Also in the most recent version of the handbook Thor is listed at the highest level of durability.

Second the handbook means absolutely nothing if the management doesn't instruct their writers to reference it, which they obviously don't. The handbook isn't written by management or editors and it isn't reviewed with any more scrutiny than any other book put out by the company. It's just another book they can put out cheap to make money off of.

Third management didn't decide to have Thor tell firelord he was weakened by heat or to have him stand in the sun, the writers did that. The editors allowed and published both stories.

Fourth Thor using his hammer to deflect bullets is on par with him telling firelord he is weakened by heat. It's one stupid example of bad, uniformed writing amidst hundreds maybe thousands of stories where he either said or showed that he was invulnerable to mortal weapons. That includes having bullets bounce of his body before.

Finally where have the editors supported my viewpoint? How about when they published hundreds of stories as described in my previous post. See the editors review each script before the comic gets the go ahead to be illustrated. If it makes it to publication that means the editors approved of it. So on the one hand we have your two out of character examples that made it to publication and on the other hand we have my hundreds of examples that got published. Yeah, the editors are really on your side and you're clearly winning this debate!:whatever:

I have seen many instances where Thor spun his hammer as a shield. I do not recall ever seeing even a single instance of Thor withstanding weapons with his own durability except perhaps blunt weapons. They may exist but they must be relatively recent and rare. They certainly do not represent Thor over the length of the character's history. I consider my point to have been made but you are apparently fanatically determined to cling to your belief. There is no point in continuing this discussion.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I have seen many instances where Thor spun his hammer as a shield. I do not recall ever seeing even a single instance of Thor withstanding weapons with his own durability except perhaps blunt weapons. They may exist but they must be relatively recent and rare. They certainly do not represent Thor over the length of the character's history. I consider my point to have been made but you are apparently fanatically determined to cling to your belief. There is no point in continuing this discussion.

Actualy Thor being invulnerable to mortal weapons goes way back to his earliest comics, I would call that the length of his characters history. I don't consider any of your points to have been made so is that your way of saying making crap up isn't working out this time so you're gonna bail?

[Genesis 1.0]

For four of the greatest defenders of Life, they sure managed to f___ up an entire planet with this one. Thor & Beta Ray Bill took on Superman & Captain Marvel in a planet buster of epic proportions but in the end, Asgard's Finest busts up Big Blue and Beta Ray Bill rearranged the face of Billy Batson as they fight to a 9-7 conclusion.

[Docker2.0]

Ha! I won! I beat you again Genesis! 2-0 my way! :cool:

[Genesis 1.0]

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2458/creeperf.jpg

Creeper

VS

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6008/wolverinet.jpg

Wolverine

[Docker2.0]

Wolverine. But I know he will lose cause the Wolverine hate is rampant.

[louiebling$]

Wolverine

[Genesis 1.0]

Docker, How can you win when I didn't even vote? :o

2-0 Wolverine

[Silicon Surfer]

The Creeper because I hate Wolverine. :)

[Anubis]

Creeper, cuz Wolverine doesn't have the crazy necessary to take him down. Same reason why DP kicks Wolvie's ass, the Creeper does...without the guns.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Creeper, one shriek into wolverines super hearing and it's over.

[PaleRider]

creeper.

[Majic Walrus]

Creeper. Not only does he have a considerable healing factor and incredible endurance and agility. He's totally bat**** ****ing crazy.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea Creeper. Sonic scream + super acute hearing = a very bad day for Wolverine

[[A]]

Blanka.. er, Creeper.

[Chunin]

Logan has beaten guys 20 times stronger nd more powerful than Creeper.

Woverine hate FTL.

[Anubis]

Who has he beat?

[Genesis 1.0]

Dunno about 20 times, but he's definitely beaten better AND fought through fights with a hell of alot more serious injuries than a blown eardrum.

Hell, Logan's insane sense of smell has helped him track down and gut his opponents far more than his superior hearing. So that's a BS reason.

Logan's more Durable, more lethal, with better senses, and easily a better healing factor. Creeper's no genuis, he's insane and he likes going head to head which is a recipe for F'N disaster with a beserk Wolverine. Logan's going to slice him up into Green Eggs and Ham.

Can't beat a man if you can't keep him down.

Wolverine B_____es.

7-4 Creeper

[SuperFerret]

Creeper.

Since when does Wolverine have SuperHearing?

[Chunin]

Cable, Sabertooth, Omega Red, Bishop, Cyclops, Gambit, Beast, Banshee, Punisher, Hawkeye, Sebastian Shaw, Reaver Pierce, SHIELD, Hand, Silver Samurai, Daredevil, Elektra, Blob, AIM, and more than I can count. Any of them could beat Creeper.

[SuperFerret]

Cable, Sabertooth, Omega Red, Bishop, Cyclops, Gambit, Beast, Banshee, Punisher, Hawkeye, Sebastian Shaw, Reaver Pierce, SHIELD, Hand, Silver Samurai, Daredevil, Elektra, Blob, AIM, and more than I can count. Any of them could beat Creeper.

You woefully underestimate the Creeper, and I noticed Wolverine isn't on that list, so I'll just put you down for a vote for Creeper. :awesome:

[Genesis 1.0]

Creeper.

Since when does Wolverine have SuperHearing?

Didn't really remember him having any but it's a convienent to use in this case I suppose.:o

[Sparta*]

Ill vote for Logan

[Chunin]

You can put me down for whatever but Creeper's not winning this fight.

[SuperFerret]

:awesome:

[Genesis 1.0]

Dunno about 20 times, but he's definitely beaten better AND fought through fights with a hell of alot more serious injuries than a blown eardrum.

Hell, Logan's insane sense of smell has helped him track down and gut his opponents far more than his superior hearing. So that's a BS reason.

Logan's more Durable, more lethal, with better senses, and easily a better healing factor. Creeper's no genuis, he's insane and he likes going head to head which is a recipe for F'N disaster with a beserk Wolverine. Logan's going to slice him up into Green Eggs and Ham.

Can't beat a man if you can't keep him down.

Wolverine B_____es.

7-4 Creeper

Like I said, Wolverine cantake anyting Creeper can dish with that healing factor and Durability and Creeper can't do so with the same efficency. An axe in the chest is NOTHING compared to what Logan can do to him with those claws.

7-5 Creeper

[SuperFerret]

Oh, we're going off of the new "I can regenerate from anything" berserker Wolverine. I keep thinking that it's from back when he was written well. :o

[Genesis 1.0]

Meh, even before his most current run from skeletal remains, he was capabe of taking what Creeper could dish.

[Chunin]

People hate logan for no reason.

[Ace of Knaves]

Logan has beaten guys 20 times stronger nd more powerful than Creeper.

Woverine hate FTL.

Dunno about 20 times, but he's definitely beaten better AND fought through fights with a hell of alot more serious injuries than a blown eardrum.

Hell, Logan's insane sense of smell has helped him track down and gut his opponents far more than his superior hearing. So that's a BS reason.

Logan's more Durable, more lethal, with better senses, and easily a better healing factor. Creeper's no genuis, he's insane and he likes going head to head which is a recipe for F'N disaster with a beserk Wolverine. Logan's going to slice him up into Green Eggs and Ham.

Can't beat a man if you can't keep him down.

Wolverine B_____es.

7-4 Creeper

And you can put AT LEAST 75% of those wins down to POPULARITY. Not logic.

**** Logan gives Hulk a harder time than Thor. Why is that? It's definitely nothing to do with logic.

Wolverine gets completely baffled and bamboozled by the sonic scream, Creeper comes in for the kill.

Deadpool has got a better healing factor than both these guys, and the ONLY reason I voted for him beating Creeper was because he is basically a walking arsenal. He has guns, RPGs, grenades, swords, the kitchen sink. Wolverine has got none of that.

Creeper.

Since when does Wolverine have SuperHearing?

He's got enhanced senses.

[Genesis 1.0]

You must be F'N insane if you really think it's that easy.

Logic has NOTHING to do with that either.

[Ace of Knaves]

Well yea it wouldn't be easy, I was exaggerating.

But seriously, bringing out examples of Wolverines wins doesn't mean ****. Because anyone who knows their comics, like I'm sure you do Gen, knows that logic is thrown out the window when it comes to the likes of Wolverine.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Creeper.

Since when does Wolverine have SuperHearing?

Since always. All his animalistic hunting senses are heightened. Smell hearing and sight.


Also Creepers laugh/shriek causes paralysis or a comatose state in its victims and with heightened hearing Logan won't be avoiding that. Logan's going down and it has nothing to do with blown ear drums.

[PemLam]

Wolverine

[CanaryFan]

The Creeper

[[A]]

Go Blanka.

[louiebling$]

Hahah we should have gotten Blanka vs Creeper :hehe:

jk

[Docker2.0]

I knew Logan would lose becuase of hatred for the guy. I blame you Genesis! :argh:

[louiebling$]

I knew Logan would lose becuase of hatred for the guy. I blame you Genesis! :argh:
Not Gens fault Wolverine has been written ridiculously that fans forget how much of a threat wolverine truely is :o

[Ace of Knaves]

I don't hate Wolverine. In all honesty I prefer him to Creeper. But I ain't stupid, most of Wolverines wins are simply because he is "Mr Over Exposure" not because he actually could win. Like I said, he gave Rulk a hard time, but Rulk obliterated Thor? C'mon...

[Hound55]

Wolvie.

Creeper's not creative with his s*** like DP is, so I think that ends those comparisons right there.

Wolvie's going to leave this thing with blown out ears for sure, but for the guy who seems permanently hung over, that's just going to bring the berzerker rage even sooner...

Creeper screams, Wolvie covers ears in pain... agony... anger... rage... Wolvie's hands drop from his ears, adamantium retracts, Creeper screams again but this time in pain as Wolvie puts a few "speedholes" in him...

DP's a different story. Different kind of crazy, yet nuts nonetheless.

[SuperFerret]

I nominated this thread for Thread of the Year. So, y'know, my votes should count for two for a month.

[Genesis 1.0]

Wolvie.

Creeper's not creative with his s*** like DP is, so I think that ends those comparisons right there.

Wolvie's going to leave this thing with blown out ears for sure, but for the guy who seems permanently hung over, that's just going to bring the berzerker rage even sooner...

Creeper screams, Wolvie covers ears in pain... agony... anger... rage... Wolvie's hands drop from his ears, adamantium retracts, Creeper screams again but this time in pain as Wolvie puts a few "speedholes" in him...

DP's a different story. Different kind of crazy, yet nuts nonetheless.

EXACTLY. Logan would shred this guy.:o

SF: I'll make you a deal, you've got a 2 for 1 coupon to use in any upcoming match.:awesome:


Insanity battles Rage, Agility against Durability, Screams versus Healing, all these things come to bear as the Creeper takes on th #1 rated Badass in the MU in a bloody struggle. Alas in the end, the Insanity trumps all as the Jr. Clown Prince of Crime rolls to an 8-7 victory.

[SuperFerret]

EXACTLY. Logan would shred this guy.:o

SF: I'll make you a deal, you've got a 2 for 1 coupon to use in any upcoming match.:awesome:


Insanity battles Rage, Agility against Durability, Screams versus Healing, all these things come to bear as the Creeper takes on th #1 rated Badass in the MU in a bloody struggle. Alas in the end, the Insanity trumps all as the Jr. Clown Prince of Crime rolls to an 8-7 victory.

Sweet! I plan on wasting it. :up:

[[A]]

..perhaps an animal-based character..?

[Genesis 1.0]

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/75/thexmen.jpg

The X-Men

VS

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/1469/theoutsiders.jpg

The Outsiders

[louiebling$]

I nominated this thread for Thread of the Year. So, y'know, my votes should count for two for a month.
I'm going to follow your footsteps :up:

[[A]]

I am an outsider--outside of everything ♪♫

Um, The Outsiders.

[[A]]

-double-

[Genesis 1.0]

Emma & Metamorpho are the Game Breakers for me in this match.

1-0 Outsiders

[Docker2.0]

I'm voting Xmen. Nightcrawler is a underrated mofo. Emma Frost and Metamorpho would cancel each other out, though I think Emma Frost would take him with her mental abilities.

[Majic Walrus]

Outisders

[PaleRider]

eh it's close but I think X-Men.

[Genesis 1.0]

So...who's going to take on Colossus?

2-2 TIE

[Silicon Surfer]

X-Men

[louiebling$]

X-Men are winning this one

[louiebling$]

So...who's going to take on Colossus?

2-2 TIE
I think Black Lighting will see a Shiny Metal man and want to go play.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

x-men

[Johnny Blaze]

X-Men

[SuperFerret]

The Outsiders will be bringing some heavy opposition here, but the X-Men will wind up winning. I'm gonna save my coupon. :awesome:

[PemLam]

X-Men

[Genesis 1.0]

8-2 x-men

[Anubis]

Outsiders

[Majic Walrus]

I think Black Lighting will see a Shiny Metal man and want to go play.

Yep.

[Docker2.0]

Organic metal so it's different. Ask Jeph Loeb. :o

[SuperFerret]

Metal isn't typically harmed when conducting electricity.

[X-Woman]

X-Men.

:xmen:

[Silicon Surfer]

Colossus has taken everything Storm can summon without harm, Black Lightning isn't even going to annoy him.

[Hound55]

Colossus has taken everything Storm can summon without harm, Black Lightning isn't even going to annoy him.
Probably not, but I think it would be enough to see Black Lightning WANT TO target him first, setting that as the match-up.

Emma makes the difference to me.

X-Men with the win.

[Sparta*]

X-men win....barely...and only because of Emma. Otherwise they'd all be taken out by Metamorpho