The Ultimate DC/Marvel Tournament

[Genesis 1.0]

Here's the deal:

-Our thread was so badass, so unfailingly popular that the Hype itself was about to collapse from the level of OWNAGE we were emitting.

For the good of the Hype and the Internet as a whole, we're going to restart this thread from #1.

Please try to keep the level of AWESOME to an acceptable level.

[Genesis 1.0]

As stated by the Founder:

-----------------------------------------------RULES-----------------------------------------
Please read before voting.
1) I, Genesis 1.0 or someone I appoint will post a match.

2) Make a post clearly stating who you think will win and I will tally these posts and give a score. The higher score in the end is the winner. If your post is not clear your vote will be rejected.

3) The heroes are always fighting at their most recent power levels before they were dead/powerless unless otherwise noted.

4) Teams are always the most recent incarnation before they were disbanded.

5) Any power connection such as the Speedforce, Motherbox, Power Cosmic ect. is still in effect regardless of the location unless otherwise stated.

6)There are no ringouts, competitors must be defeated by one another unless otherwise mentioned.
7) Never vote against Azrael or Moon Knight! :mad:
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[Genesis 1.0]

http://i29.tinypic.com/2hgy9og.jpg

Gamora "The Most Dangerous Woman in the Universe"

VS

http://i32.tinypic.com/20qfcjm.jpg

Deathstroke "The Terminator"


Vote Stands: 7-1 Gamora

[WolfCypher]

Gamora.

Happy reopening

[PaleRider]

gamora

[Hound55]

Here's the deal:

-Our thread was so badass, so unfailingly popular that the Hype itself was about to collapse from the level of OWNAGE we were emitting.

For the good of the Hype and the Internet as a whole, we're going to restart this thread from #1.

Please try to keep the level of AWESOME to an acceptable level.
And as such Moon Knight vs Azrael will end the boards as we know them...

[greenrage36]

And as such Moon Knight vs Azrael will end the boards as we know them...

Actually we are all trembling in fear of the epic battle between Gleek & H.E.R.B.I.E... it's titanic might may cause it to spill over from the Marvel/DC non-fight thread!!!! lawdy, lawdy...but I can hear the walls a-shakin' from that one! :oldrazz:


(oh yeah..Gamora ftw)

:bh:

[Majic Walrus]

This fight seems familiar to me... Deathstroke FTW.

[Anubis]

Gamora

[TheCorpulent1]

Is everybody supposed to vote again or something? I thought we still had the count from the last thread.

[Silicon Surfer]

That was my understanding considering that the vote count is in the initial post of this thread.

[Sparta*]

Congrats on the new thread Genesis

this is a great match-up, i'll side with Deathstroke in a close fight

[Genesis 1.0]

Much appreciated to all the congrats. It takes the sting out when you have to restart because your thread's one of the most popular on the entire site.

The Most Dangerous Woman in the Universe SPANKS DC's Terminator as Deathstroke falls hard 10-2.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1261/moonknight.jpg

Moon Knight

VS

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/746/azraels.jpg

Azrael

[Silicon Surfer]

Azrael

[Genesis 1.0]

Meh, they're both bats*** crazy.

I'll go with the one for a mad god patron.

Moon Knight

1-1 TIE

[TheCorpulent1]

Azrael. He's not quite as crazy as Moon Knight.

[Genesis 1.0]

Meh, sometimes that's an asset and others....

2- Azrael

[SuperFerret]

Meh, sometimes that's an asset and others....

2- Azrael

The score is 2-Azrael? How many votes make up an Azrael? Is this some kind of inside joke, like how me and my friends know that the Hulk weighs exactly one wolf?

I vote Moon Knight and demand answers! :cmad:

[Sparta*]

I never liked Azrael but the guys got skills. I'll go with Azrael on this one

[Hound55]

When and where are they fighting?

[SuperFerret]

3 o'clock by the monkey bars.

[Genesis 1.0]

The score is 2-Azrael? How many votes make up an Azrael? Is this some kind of inside joke, like how me and my friends know that the Hulk weighs exactly one wolf?

I vote Moon Knight and demand answers! :cmad:

Heh, you know it was supposed to be 2-1 Azrael.:o

Now it's 3-2 Azrael.


Location: New York City: Midnight

[Hound55]

When (i.e. what phase of the moon) and where (I read Spector's Merc days as giving him an advantage if its outside of an urban setting - not that he's lousy in the city... the bulk of his Moon Knight work has taken place in the city, but he shares that with Azrael) are they fighting?

[Majic Walrus]

I can't vote against either!!!

Are these the pictured incarnations or the current incarnations. If it's current nigh-powerless Marc Spector and Suit of Sorrows Azrael then Az takes it EASY. If it's powered Moon Knight against Jean-Paul Moon Knight wins.

[Genesis 1.0]

When (i.e. what phase of the moon) and where (I read Spector's Merc days as giving him an advantage if its outside of an urban setting - not that he's lousy in the city... the bulk of his Moon Knight work has taken place in the city, but he shares that with Azrael) are they fighting?

1.) Half-Moon

2.) Like I said, NYC, nowhere specific.

MJ: Powered Moon Knight // Suit of Sorrows Azrael

3-2 Azrael

[Hound55]

Ah sh## then it's Az...

I was hoping to be able to go with Moon Knight. Even half-moon, Moon Knight is enhanced more than a regular human... but Suit of Sorrows is too much tech for me to be able to see him handle when being used by as well trained a guy as Az is...

Azrael.

[Majic Walrus]

SoS Az wins. I don't even really care for the character but between the the sword and teh suit he takes it against Marc.

[Genesis 1.0]

In a match that shows most people don't give a damn, Azrael out-crazies Moon Knight 5-2.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9458/ironlanternsmall.jpg

Iron Lantern

VS

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3049/eradicator.jpg

Eradicator

[TheCorpulent1]

I forgot what the Iron Lantern could do. Is he basically just a GL in Iron Man armor?

[Genesis 1.0]

Iron Lantern wears an armor that can generate a variety of effects, such as:

Constructs of green 'solid-energy,' often of tremendous size and/or complexity.
Plasma bolts
Semi-sentient computers.
Flight, including flight at speeds beyond that of light by the use of wormholes.
Time travel
Almost unlimited telepathic powers
Translation of virtually all languages
Force field generation
The armor gives him superhuman strength and durability.

The armor is also able to convert nearby energy sources, such as heat or kinetic energy into electricity. The armor has jet skates that are now so powerful Iron Lantern can skate forward towing an entire train behind him.

Miniature panes can protect Iron Lantern's eyes when needed. In addition, the armor can be completely sealed for operations in vacuum or underwater, and is shielded against radiation.

The onboard systems of the armor are controlled by Hal Stark's brain patterns, read from a cybernetic interface in his helmet.

The armor has a uni-beam projector in its chest; pulse bolts that pick up kinetic energy (http://forums.superherohype.com/wiki/Kinetic_energy) along the way, so that they hit harder the further they have to travel and an electromagnetic pulse (http://forums.superherohype.com/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse) generator.

Other capabilities include generation of ultra-freon, creating and manipulating of magnetic fields, sonic blasts and a holographic generator to create decoys.

He's Hal Jordan, Charles Xaiver, Magneto, Mysterio, & Tony Stark on Space Crack.:o

[Anubis]

Actually, he's a Green Lantern with Tony Stark's brain.

Iron Lantern by the way.

[Genesis 1.0]

Actually, he's a Green Lantern with Tony Stark's brain.

Iron Lantern by the way.

Oh so what part of Tony or said Lantern has nearly unlimied telepathy?:o

Ultra freon? Or...

F*** it, it's just easier to say you're wrong.:o

1-0 Iron Lantern

[Anubis]

Technically, a GL can have unlimited telepathic powers. If the ring bearer wills it so.

[Genesis 1.0]

Technically, a GL can have unlimited telepathic powers. If the ring bearer wills it so.

.....Yeah. Let me know how that's worked for the rest of the Corps, much less those that have telepathic foes that tend to pop up.:o:o

[Anubis]

It's true. If you take an individual, smart enough to really take advantage of the fact that you can will the ring to do whatever you want it to, that GL would be able to all that stuff and more. The Ring is the greatest weapon in the universe, it has only one real flaw. The wielder.

[Genesis 1.0]

It's true. If you take an individual, smart enough to really take advantage of the fact that you can will the ring to do whatever you want it to, that GL would be able to all that stuff and more. The Ring is the greatest weapon in the universe, it has only one real flaw. The wielder.

Again, you've got nothing in actual practice, just theoy based on an ability on paper?

So by this same logic the Sentry is the most powerful guy in the MU.:o

[Silicon Surfer]

Hal Jordan has used his ring to protect his mind from telepaths, read minds, communicate telepathically, manipulate memories, and created protective bubbles that enabled those within to communicate telepathically.

[Silicon Surfer]

double post

[Anubis]

Again, you've got nothing in actual practice, just theoy based on an ability on paper?

So by this same logic the Sentry is the most powerful guy in the MU.


Uhhh, no, because he doesn't have a thought based weapon that is limited only by the wielder's imagination. Are you drunk or something?

Also, what Silicon said. If a card board cut out like Hal can figure such things out, imagine what a guy like Stark could do?

[Genesis 1.0]

Hal Jordan has used his ring to protect his mind from telepaths, read minds, communicate telepathically, manipulate memories, and created protective bubbles that enabled those within to communicate telepathically.

NONE of that equals up to unlimited telepathy. Admirable telepathic feats? Yes.

Uhhh, no, because he doesn't have a thought based weapon that is limited only by the wielder's imagination. Are you drunk or something?

Also, what Silicon said. If a card board cut out like Hal can figure such things out, imagine what a guy like Stark could do?

If I'm drunk, you're f'n high.

Sentry has done 90% of what Surfer listed and raised the f'n dead. So he doesn't need a ring and he's got telepathic powers. By your own rules he's capable of anything.

Don't cop out now, you're making an epic fool of yourself.:o

[SuperFerret]

NONE of that equals up to unlimited telepathy. Admirable telepathic feats? Yes.

Actually, what Anubis said has merit. If Hal (who's known for his fearlessness, not his imagination) can produce "admirable telepathic feats", then Stark (who's known for his ingenuity and imagination) would likely be able to have near "unlimited telepathy".

Iron Lantern wins.

Funny thing is, I can think of a lot more characters in the Marvel Universe that would be better Green Lanterns than some of the ones we have in DC.

[Majic Walrus]

Did I see Time Travel listed as a power?

Iron Lantern goes back before Eradicator was born and kills his pregnant mom Terminator style.

[Anubis]

So, what would that look like? He steps on a Kryptonian toaster or something?

[Genesis 1.0]

Actually, what Anubis said has merit. If Hal (who's known for his fearlessness, not his imagination) can produce "admirable telepathic feats", then Stark (who's known for his ingenuity and imagination) would likely be able to have near "unlimited telepathy".

Iron Lantern wins.

Funny thing is, I can think of a lot more characters in the Marvel Universe that would be better Green Lanterns than some of the ones we have in DC.

Practice > Theory

An argument based on ifs and buts, nothing concrete.

3-0 Iron Lantern

[Hound55]

Iron Lantern is too much. Too rounded.

****, the only thing better would be giving Bats a ring...

[Genesis 1.0]

Hell, you might as well shut down the DC Universe.

Eradicator, basically a mechanical Superman clone is getting NO respect. Shocking.

5-0 Iron Lantern

[Silicon Surfer]

Eradicator

[TheCorpulent1]

I'll go with Iron Lantern. The question of telepathy notwithstanding, I'd give any high-level GL a decent chance against Superman, so a super-smart, highly imaginative, highly willful GL-powered Tony Stark against a slightly less powerful Kryptonian robot seems like a no-brainer.

[Silicon Surfer]

The Eradicator IIRC has high level matter manipulation as well. Iron Lantern suit into soup can?

[Genesis 1.0]

Heh, I completely forgot about the matter manipulation, and since it's logical, that's probably be a high priority on it's list of attacks.

6-1 Iron Lantern

[Genesis 1.0]

The product of Tony Stark & Hal Jordan manages to completlely decimate the Kyrptonian war machine, as Iron Lantern trumps the Eradicator 6-1.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/840/840988/annihilation-conquest-20071211072531120.jpg

Conquest: Ultron

VS

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/403/brainiac.jpg

Brainiac

[Wilderbeast]

Ultron

[Silicon Surfer]

Brainiac simply hacks Ultron.

[Sparta*]

Brainiac

for the last match-up i'd give it to the Eradicator

[Genesis 1.0]

Ultron hacks and completely invades other mechanical beings as a matter of course. In addition, he's got a wide variety of powers, a nearly impervious body, an intellect that nearly matches Brainiac, & this version showed more raw power mixed with ruthless calculation than I've ever seen.

Ultron

2-2 TIE

[WolfCypher]

Ultron

[Genesis 1.0]

Conquest Ultron was probably his best incarnation, aside from he female metal version. THAT was delicious.

3-2 Ultron

[WolfCypher]

How did that work again? Iron Man turns into Femme Ultron?

[TheCorpulent1]

Conquest Ultron. If it were regular Ultron, Brainiac might stand a chance. Not so much against the Conquest version.

[Silicon Surfer]

According to Wikipedia the most recent version had physical strength enough to wound Superman and durability to match. That is more than enough to pound an adamantium body flat. Other versions have had telepathy, telekinesis, force fields, electrodes capable of nearly frying the pre-crisis Superman and of course the shrinking ray. I also disagree with Ultron being nearly as intelligent. While Ultron is very intelligent by human standards I don't consider him to be even remotely in the same class as Brainiac.

[Supertompa]

Brainiac is awesome but Ultron to so its hard but i vote for Ultron

[Anubis]

Brainiac

[Supertompa]

new fight soon ????

[Mazrim Taim]

ultron

[Chunin]

Conquest Ultron

[Majic Walrus]

Brainiac even though that picture of Conquest Ultron is badass.

[SuperFerret]

Ultron.

[Genesis 1.0]

How did that work again? Iron Man turns into Femme Ultron?

Basically. Hacked the Suit and used a program for the rebirth a sexier Ultron.:wow:

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/underwire/images/2007/05/23/femaleultron.png




In a battle of supremely intelligent artifical beings, Annihilation Conquest's Ultron emerges supreme over Brainiac, doubling his opponen 8-4.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5561/aquamanclassic.jpg

Aquaman

VS

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9202/blacksuitspidey.jpg

Spider-Man

Location: New York City, NY

[SuperFerret]

Hmm... tough fight. I'll give it to Aquaman, but it could go either way.

[TheCorpulent1]

Aquaman. Faster, stronger, and almost as agile.

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah, Arthur & Peter are two damn tough guys.

2-0 Aquaman

[TheCorpulent1]

So, how long do you guys think we'll get actual serious votes before the cheap Aquaman jokes start?

[Genesis 1.0]

Till Anubis shows up.

[TheCorpulent1]

Anubis actually likes Aquaman. :up:

[Anubis]

Aquaman, and f**k you Gen.

[Hound55]

That's showing black suit Spidey... Is it him, or the regular 616?

[Anubis]

That pic is just Spidey in a regular suit, that happens to be black.

[Silicon Surfer]

Spider Man, his webbing will make the difference along with Spider Sense.

[Anubis]

Bulls**t.

If Venom can break it, Aquaman can Break it.

[Hound55]

He might be able to break it but that doesn't cease to make it a valuable weapon, it then just matters how he uses it.

Spidey's resourceful, more agile... and personally I disagree with Corp and think he's faster (although I haven't seen figures... I'm just going by what I've seen).

[Anubis]

Aquaman can run nearly 200 miles per hour.

[Silicon Surfer]

Let's see, snag him with it and play crack the whip into the stratosphere and let him fall down and go boom, create a blade with it and fillet the fish, shoot webbing down his throat so that he chokes, make cestas and beat him to death with them, and no doubt a few uses that I haven't thought of. Not exactly useless.

[WolfCypher]

Assuming its just regular, non-Alien Black Suit Spider-Man vs. Aquaman...I still say Spider-Man.

Spidey has gone toe-to-toe with villains stronger than a fully submerged Aquaman. His agility and Spider-Sense has helped him as much as Wolverine's healing factor has been overused. Really, as long as Spidey outmanuvers Aquaman, AM's not going to win.

[SuperFerret]

How would Aquaman's telepathy interact with Parker's Spider-Sense, if at all? He's been able to mess with the primitive part of non-fish brains before, and I'd wager that Spider-Sense has primitive sensory components.

[Supertompa]

Spider man.

[Majic Walrus]

I underestimate Aquaman a lot because he's the "Shipwreck" of the JLA only being useful in watery environments. That being said New York is really close to water.

Aquaman has to fight tooth and nail for it but eventually he gets Peter to the shore and attacks him with mutant harbor fish and wins.

[TheCorpulent1]

People who think Aquaman's only useful in watery environments clearly haven't read much with him. He's just shy of the Martian Manhunter's strength, he no longer has his 1-hour water requirement thanks to his water hand, he has the equivalent of heightened senses on land given that they have to be sharper for living underwater, and he's tough enough to operate normally in the pressure near the bottom of the Marianas Trench.
Let's see, snag him with it and play crack the whip into the stratosphere and let him fall down and go boom, create a blade with it and fillet the fish, shoot webbing down his throat so that he chokes, make cestas and beat him to death with them, and no doubt a few uses that I haven't thought of. Not exactly useless.
Yes, all things Spider-Man would totally do, too. :dry:

Best case scenario, Spider-Man's wrapping Aquaman up in webbing, which Aquaman will easily just tear his way out of. SuperFerret's point about Aquaman's expanded telepathy is a good one, too: at the very least, he could keep Spider-Man off his game with it.

[SuperFerret]

Can Spidey make blades with his webbing? I was under the impression that at the most he could make crude bludgeoning weapons with densely packed web fluid, either way Orin's skin is far too tough for it to fillet him.

[Silicon Surfer]

He has created a sword and shield in the past and played crack the whip as well. It is so long ago, however, that I don't remember any details. His webbing is strong enough that a single shot has held the thing without reinforcing it afterward.

[Genesis 1.0]

Aquaman, and f**k you Gen.

*Takes a bow*

Where's this Water Hand crap coming from? You see a Water Hand in there? I don't think so b*****.:o

Alien Suit? Per that issue, it's just a black suit, symbolic more than anything.

It's a close one, I took my time thinking about this one and I say Spidey IS more Agile AND has better reflexes. His webbing is strong enough and his Spidey Sense is exotic enough to be an equalizer to Arthur's greater strength.

Spider-Man

4-4 TIE

[WolfCypher]

Bulls**t.

If Venom can break it, Aquaman can Break it.

Ya know, I just thought...Aquaman will still have his hands full of webbing...

[greenrage36]

I vote for Spidey as well, although Aquaman is certainly no push-over..this actually would make for a pretty interesting matchup IMHO.

:bh:

[Majic Walrus]

Can Spidey make blades with his webbing? I was under the impression that at the most he could make crude bludgeoning weapons with densely packed web fluid, either way Orin's skin is far too tough for it to fillet him.

I don't think he could actually make a sharpened weapon with his webbing also the bludgeoning weapons are going to take some time to create because of the amount of webbing it would take to pull it off.

[Vengeance]

Aquaman

[Genesis 1.0]

Either way, Arthur is going to have his hands full with the webbing and it's damn tough and versatile.

5-5 TIE

[Sparta*]

This is a damn tough choice...this fight could really go either way

Spidey

[Hound55]

If I didn't make my choice clear earlier...

Spidey.

[Ace of Knaves]

Aquaman

[PaleRider]

aquaman

[Genesis 1.0]

7-7 TIE

As usual, when we have a tie, I bring in our impartial Judge & Executioner, Dread.



Hmm. Well, all things being equal, Aquaman would have the advantage of physical strength, speed, and stamina and his telepathy, which can work on other beings besides ocean creatures. Spider-Man knows New York well, and his spider-sense might make up some slack for being slower than Aquaman. Arthur is probably a better fighter overall, but Spider-Man has beaten quite a warrior enemies. On the other hand, in NYC, exposure to a water hydrant or the sewer to replenish Aquaman in a brawl isn't unlikely. It also should be noted that many of Spider-Man's victories over overpowered enemies came after some sort of dues ex machina; time to prepare some solution or serum, a conveniently placed wet cement foundation, etc. Most people even attribute the symbiote costume for his "punch and repeat" defeat of Fire-Lord way back. That or bad writing.

Barring such plot-centric breaks, I think Spider-Man would last longer against Aquaman than he should, but the most he should hope for is a draw, go the distance style. Aquaman doesn't have the rep, but he's no pushover. It also depends on how tough his webbing is, which is also dependent on the writer; in some eras, it was a struggle for even super-tough enemies to escape from, but since the 90's, it seems anyone above peak human can rip it easily. I just don't think Spider-Man can overcome the power gap without a retreat or some sort of convenient thing in the area. Draw or Aquaman victory, eventually.


In a long, drawn out, and extremely cool battle, the King of the Sea manages to defeat New York's Finest, Spider-Man 8-7.

[TheCorpulent1]

Woo, I did not expect a win for Aquaman here.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9576/darkclaw.jpg

Dark Claw

VS

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6565/deadpool94.jpg

Deadpool

[Mazrim Taim]

Dark Claw

[Anubis]

I'm gonna go DP here.

[TheCorpulent1]

I guess in theory Dark Claw should be able to take DP since he's supposed to be as smart as Batman. Deadpool's great and all, but Batman tends to come up with innovative solutions, and the Wolverine side of Dark Claw should keep him alive against DP long enough to do so.

Dark Claw.

[Anubis]

The fact that he's an amalgam of the two most overrated characters in comicdom is the reason why I'm going with the underdog.

[Genesis 1.0]

How Deadpool can be an 'underdog' against almost anyone below Iron Man level is beyond me.



2-1 Dark Claw

[Silicon Surfer]

Deadpool

[TheCorpulent1]

How Deadpool can be an 'underdog' against almost anyone below Iron Man level is beyond me.



2-1 Dark Claw
Both Batman and Wolverine have the advantage of popularity on their side, so they're routinely written way more tough than their powers/skills suggest they would be. Pretty much anyone would be an underdog against an amalgam of the two.

[Anubis]

Don't waste your time. Common sense is a foreign language to Gen. :o

[greenrage36]

Ummm..I'll go with Dark Claw due to the intellect factor as well...since I missed the DP/Wolvie matchup earlier..(where I would probably have gone with Wade,btw), I think in this particular cirucumstance he would be able to get the win...

[Ace of Knaves]

Hmm so this Dark Claw is a mix of Batman and Wolverine?

I think Deadpool could take this in the end. His healing factor and everything is better than Wolverines.

Depends if there is "prep time" I suppose :D

[Silicon Surfer]

As an amalgam of the two Dark Claw should also have the combined hubris and posturing of both.

[Ace of Knaves]

Has he got adamantium skeleton?

[Majic Walrus]

**** Dark Claw. He's not just Batman + Wolverine. He's more like Batman/2 * Wolverine^5

Deadpool wins.

[Genesis 1.0]

Don't waste your time. Common sense is a foreign language to Gen. :o

In the same manner intelligence and witticism is foreign to you.:o

I'll go with Dark Claw on this one, Logans' adamantium skeleton and claws, strength, durability, reflexes, senses, healing factor, and a beserker rage and centuries of experience honed to a razor's edge by Batman's intelligence and tactics?:wow:

And Wade's going to top that? In a word: NO.

Dark Claw



4-3 Deadpool

[CDOG]

dudes its so moonknight

[CDOG]

dudes its so moonkinght'

[Anubis]

Wrong match.

[Ace of Knaves]

In the same manner intelligence and witticism is foreign to you.:o

I'll go with Dark Claw on this one, Logans' adamantium skeleton and claws, strength, durability, reflexes, senses, healing factor, and a beserker rage and centuries of experience honed to a razor's edge by Batman's intelligence and tactics?:wow:

And Wade's going to top that? In a word: NO.

Dark Claw



4-3 Deadpool

Wade's healing factor, stamina and agility is better than Wolverines though.

And the Batman factor is cheating, he always wins fights he has no right winning. :oldrazz:

A Wolverine/Batman mix character is just the ultimate comic book cheat.

[Hound55]

To some extent intelligence and logic get countered by insanity and unpredictability...

One of the main reason why Batman gets Joker so often, IMO, is because I think Joker actually WANTS to do his thing in front of Bats face...

I don't see this as being THAT different from Deadpool/Wolverine because the X-Factor is still "How crazy is Deadpool and how will that effect things?"

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea, and I don't think Batman has ever encountered someone like Deadpool before, a guy who can re-grow his own head. A guy who would blow himself up if it meant taking his enemies out.

The only way to actually put Deadpool down for good is a) find a cure for cancer b) take away his healing factor. Could Batman do either of those things? Well, with "prep time" anything is possible I suppose.

[Hound55]

Remove his head and keep it in the Bat-Cave in a glass case along with the big coin and metal dinosaur...

Batman vs Lobo's the closest I can think of to try and make some form of comparison...

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea that used to work. But I've noticed recently they have given Deadpool the ability to re-grow a whole new head. He doesn't even need to re-attach it anymore. It's a bit inconsistent really, dunno if I like it.

[Genesis 1.0]

Wade Wilson's insanity overcomes the overwhelming intelligence and experience of Dark Claw with a midling 5-4 victory.

EDIT: Add 1 from Lobo for Dark Claw.

[Lobo]

I'd have voted Dark Claw, nonetheless Wade still wins the match up here.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7743/titannus.jpg

Titannus

VS

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/6306/wonderwomanb.jpg

Wonder Woman

[SuperFerret]

Ouch. Surfer beats her badly, though he'd be impressed by her determination.

[Lobo]

You put Diana up against the Surfer? :csad:

Silver Surfer :down

[Anubis]

This is almost as one sided a fight as that Living Lightning/Storm match in the Marvel fight thread.

SS

[Genesis 1.0]

Hmmm, you would think that Diana would get more credit considering her credentials.

Well if Surfer's too much for her, I've changed things around...

Titannus, who has defeated the entire Defenders consisting of Spider-Man, She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel, the Hulk, Wolverine, Nova, AND Dr. F'n Strange.

0-0

[Anubis]

That's still kinda one sided. Like you said, he beat the s**t outta all those people at the same time. He's more of a JLA threat really.

[Genesis 1.0]

Dunno about that, I don't think anyone would take him over Supes alone, much less the JLA unless you're talking mid-carders.

I tossed up Sentry / WW a while back and Sentry outclasses her in power on every level and she still got the win.

So where's the beef?

[Anubis]

The difference is that Sentry is wishy washy at best. Whether he'll actually fight or cower in a corner like a b***h is anyone's guess. That guy? He tends to beat the s**t outta any and all that comes near him. In a flat out brawl? She might stand a chance. MIGHT. Maybe her skill could make a difference, but the guys just too powerful from what I've seen. I'd class him up there around Despero in raw power. I mean, the only way they managed to kill him was to make him rip his own head off, and even then that was kinda temporary.

Like I said, the guy is seriously up there.

[Silicon Surfer]

Titannus

[Genesis 1.0]

The difference is that Sentry is wishy washy at best. Whether he'll actually fight or cower in a corner like a b***h is anyone's guess. That guy? He tends to beat the s**t outta any and all that comes near him. In a flat out brawl? She might stand a chance. MIGHT. Maybe her skill could make a difference, but the guys just too powerful from what I've seen. I'd class him up there around Despero in raw power. I mean, the only way they managed to kill him was to make him rip his own head off, and even then that was kinda temporary.

Like I said, the guy is seriously up there.

Been saying it for years and I continue to say so: Bulls**t. Sentry's power isn't even disputable and I won't waste another hour debating it like I did the last time. The sentiment is f'n wrong.

In any case, WW can't handle Surfer and she can't take Titannus. and loses to them both respectively:

Titannus: 1-0

Surfer: 3-0



Useless biatch.:o

[Genesis 1.0]

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3623/supermankickass.jpg

Kingdom Come Superman

VS

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7743/titannus.jpg

Titannus

[SuperFerret]

KC Superman

[Anubis]

Been saying it for years and I continue to say so: Bulls**t. Sentry's power isn't even disputable and I won't waste another hour debating it like I did the last time. The sentiment is f'n wrong.

In any case, WW can't handle Surfer and she can't take Titannus. and loses to them both respectively:

Titannus: 1-0

Surfer: 3-0



Useless biatch.:o

I think she could take the Hulk, Firelord, Airwalker, Drax, and Gamora. (which would be an awesome fight by the way.)

KC Supes by the way. (cuz I don't wanna be responsible for another match being brought up)

[Genesis 1.0]

I think she could take the Hulk.

With Speed as her only edge and even that's dubious.:o

As to the current match, I don't know if I'd take KC Supes over Hulk, Dr. Strange, & Nova.....

Titannus in a planet buster.

2-1 Kingdom Come Superman

[Lobo]

KC Superman.

I'd take her over Hulk, too. Maybe that should be her next match up?

[greenrage36]

Supes..not easily, but not a huge drawn-out struggle either..

[Hound55]

KC Supes.

And in terms of Vs Hulk it'd depend on which Hulk we're talking about...

And I thought the Wonderwoman bouts were a tad one-sided with either SS or Titannus as well... but in fairness to Gen it's not easy to find a match since if you put WW in a close match people say she wins comfortably.

It's kind of working the odds and countering that bias... like if it were a Batman, Supes, Wolverine or Deadpool bout...

[SuperFerret]

Diana could have some good match-ups that aren't particularly typical. Magneto, Absorbing Man, Hank Pym, Enchantress, Vision, Namor, Klaw, Havok, and Juggernaut could give her a decent fight without an obvious winner. Hercules, Wonder Man, and Ms. Marvel are more thought of opponents, and many of Thor's rogues gallery would work. I'd even think it interesting to see her against Dr. Doom, though more for the story than a match up.

[Hound55]

Personally, I see Magneto, Pym, Namor, Juggernaut to be fairly one sided-bouts on varied sides...

[SuperFerret]

Personally, I see Magneto, Pym, Namor, Juggernaut to be fairly one sided-bouts on varied sides...

Still, that's four out of a number I posted. Plus, I think for those four especially, there're very good, evenly matched matches in store for us.

[Majic Walrus]

KC Supes wins

[Genesis 1.0]

Titannus is just as durable and has a wider variety of ways to implement his powers, AND he's a better tactican.

So of course he's losing.


6-1 Kingdom Come Superman

[Silicon Surfer]

Titannus since no post crisis Superman could possibly be good enough to win anything.

[Mazrim Taim]

Titan

[Genesis 1.0]

Superman's Kingdom has Come after a clear cut 6-3 double or nothing victory over the mighty Wonder Woman beating Titannus.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7530/captainatomwgood.jpg

Wildstorm Captain Atom

VS

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1474/silversurferhand.jpg

Annihilation Silver Surfer

[Lobo]

Captain Atom

[greenrage36]

Hmmm..I wasn't too up on Captain Atom, so I went and checked Wikipedia for the stats on him. I think it might be prudent to ask which Captain Atom is actually represented (Allen or Nathaniel)...

If it's Allen I see Surfer taking this in a brief but bombastic clash..

If it's Natheniel...I think it's closer and could go either way..although my gut reaction is still Norrin...

*almost didn't vote as I really don't know Cap. Atom that well..but what the heck....

[Anubis]

Captain Atom from Armageddon was Cap at his most powerful. He had fused together with Wildstorm's Void and ultimately ended up causing a big bang upon his exit from the WSU. This guy was seriously powerful and could quite frankly be on the same level as SS. So, I'll go SS. Cuz, Atom never really had the time to explore his powers, and while they are vast and comparable to the Surfer's, the Surfer's had em longer.

[Silicon Surfer]

Silver Surfer. I don't know Captain Atom from Captain Kangaroo but the Surfer was quite powerful before and with an upgrade I don't see very many people in any universe getting a win off of him. And I don't think that Galactus is going to bother with a minor upgrade. Since he did it it should be major.

[Genesis 1.0]

Damn, I actually agree with Anubis on this one. Atom in Wildstorm was easily his most powerful AND of all the characters in the DCU, he matches up with Surfer's specific powerset as close as nearly anyone.

He didn't have them nearly (not even close) as long as Norrin but the sheer amount of power is daunting. Given a little more time and I'd have him owning 80% of the DC Universe.

Annihilation Surfer was badass in a way that's tough to describe considering how powerful Surfer is at his basic level. Faster, stronger, far more powerful, and a brutal edged focus to use it, which I think is the best part.

Can't say who I'd take right now, but it's damn close and this battle is going to cause HELLA property damage on a cosmic scale.

3-1 Silver Surfer

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm gonna go with the Surfer. Captain Atom was very powerful in the Armageddon mini, but the Surfer's also very powerful in basically the same (or more) ways, plus he's got experience on his side. Captain Atom sort of bumbled his way through his Wildstorm opponents, often lucking out by instinctively trying a new power that happened to work out well for him. The Surfer knows what he's doing way more than Nate and they're comparable in power, so that experience counts for a lot.

[Hound55]

Surfer.

Both are crazy powerful, Norrin's more efficient with it since he's got the experience.

Captain Atom's best bet is to go blunt edged and unlease and then I think he risks offing himself too...

So I've got Surfer or at best (for Cap. Atom) a draw...

[Majic Walrus]

Cap Atom.

[PaleRider]

i love Cap. Atom but Have to go with Silver Sufer. Anubis did say it best.

[Sparta*]

Norrin, good match-up though

[Genesis 1.0]

1.) Thanks Sparta.

i love Cap. Atom but Have to go with Silver Sufer. Anubis did say it best.

Don't encourage him.:o

.....

I'll go with Surfer as well in a close bout.


The Greatest Herald of the Devourer of Worlds manages to defeat an equal foe in Captaim Atom 8-2 in a closeout victory.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5752/onslaught600.jpg

Onslaught


VS


http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3408/steelsmall.jpg

Entropy Aegis Armor

[Genesis 1.0]

This is Onslaught after absorbing both Franklin Richards and X-Man, adding their power to his own.

[WolfCypher]

Then that Onslaught.

[Genesis 1.0]

Aegis DID one-shot a sentinent D-Day.

1-0 Onslaught

[SuperFerret]

Onslaught or a draw.

Onslaught explodes when defeated.

[Anubis]

Onslaught

Onslaught could probably one shot a Sentient D-Day.

[TheCorpulent1]

Onslaught.

[Ace of Knaves]

Onslaught.

[Lobo]

Onslaught :(

[Silicon Surfer]

I'm not at all familiar with the Entropy Aegis Armor so I'll abstain but Onslaught never possessed the powers of Franklin or Nate. He managed to telepathically manipulate their powers while he had them imprisoned but he never possessed the powers himself. He tried to absorb their powers but failed.

[Majic Walrus]

Onslaught... ugh.

[Genesis 1.0]

That Aegis armor was ridiculously powerful, a god in his own right and with a nigh bottomless well of power to draw from. Pretty much nothing he came against ever even put a scratch on it.

Besides, when it's built by Darkseid from Imperiex's remains, how can you go wrong?

Entropy Aegis

7-1 Onslaught

[Sparta*]

I'll throw a vote to Entropy, if anything just to not vote for Onslaught lol

[Silicon Surfer]

Hmmm if the Entropy Armor is that Advanced then it is probably capable of absorbing all the PIS energy that Onslaught is charged with. I've changed my mind and I will vote for the Entropy Armor.

[Chunin]

Onslaught

[Genesis 1.0]

I'll throw a vote to Entropy, if anything just to not vote for Onslaught lol

Heh, Onslaught gets the same amount of hate as Sentry or Rulk.

Haters.:o

Hmmm if the Entropy Armor is that Advanced then it is probably capable of absorbing all the PIS energy that Onslaught is charged with. I've changed my mind and I will vote for the Entropy Armor.

Yeah, he kicked ALOT of ass and it was literally eating his soul, so of course that made it more badass. Nevermind the fact he could also time travel.:o

Dunno about absorbing Onlaught's power, but he's more than capable of slugging it out.


8-3 Onslaught

[Sparta*]

Heh, Onslaught gets the same amount of hate as Sentry or Rulk.

Haters.:o



Yeah, he kicked ALOT of ass and it was literally eating his soul, so of course that made it more badass. Nevermind the fact he could also time travel.:o

Dunno about absorbing Onlaught's power, but he's more than capable of slugging it out.


8-3 Onslaught

If it makes you feel better I hate Rulk and Sentry far more then Onslaught :p

[Genesis 1.0]

If it makes you feel better I hate Rulk and Sentry far more then Onslaught :p

Yeah, it does.

Although how you and th others could possibly hate somsone as awesome as Sentry is beyond me.:o

[TheCorpulent1]

I hate Rulk more than both and Onslaught more than the Sentry. But I do still hate the Sentry. At least, any version of the Sentry past his initial series of one-shots.

[Anubis]

I agree with Corp, though i'm completely indifferent to Onslaught, cuz I never read that s**t.

[Genesis 1.0]

Meh, you guys are too critical.

In a battle of gods, one of Marvel's Most Hated defeats one of the Most Underrated Heroes of All Time as Onslaught destroys the Entropy Aegis 8-3.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2582/mrmajesticbig.jpg

Mr. Majestic

VS

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9551/kingthor1.jpg

King Thor

[Anubis]

whoa, good match. Majestic.

[Lobo]

Whatever Planet they fight on loses.

[Anubis]

Horribly.

[Genesis 1.0]

For those who don't know Majestic, here's a short list of his notable feats bsed on canon collected on the net:

-Scans any object and understands it on a molecular level

-Can build insanely complex machines to solve problems in NANOSECONDS

-High resistance to any magical attack, basically shrugs off high level magic

-Strength enough to move around PLANETS at will

-Use seye beams to change composition of Jupiter

-Spent weeks in the Sun

-Created a new Sun

-Moved over 1,000 times the speed of light

Basically super strength, super speed, super intelligence, multi-purpose laser vision, and energy/matter manipulation powers, Mr. Majestic also has super senses beyond anything else in Wildstorm.

[Genesis 1.0]

Maybe King Thor would be a better bout?

[Anubis]

Couldn't hurt.

[Genesis 1.0]

It's been a while since I read any Majestic and after going through those feats, Thor's not looking too good. Especially since Majestic damn near shrug of any magical attack.

THIS should be more even.

We'll see if Corp agrees.

[Anubis]

His opinion in a Thor fight is the only one that matters.

[WolfCypher]

I'll vote for whoever Corpulent votes for :o

[Silicon Surfer]

Based on that list of feats I'll choose Majestic. It actually looks like one of his few real matches would be PC Mordru.

[SuperFerret]

Majestic is like Superman with Reed Richards brain, only amped up to 11. I'm not sure how Thor would fare against him.

I'll vote Mr. M.

[TheCorpulent1]

I know it says King Thor, but that picture isn't even of Thor, let alone a specific one of his several "king" incarnations, so I'm gonna vote with classic Thor for now. Superman's got a weakness to magic and I still tend to give him even odds against classic Thor. So I'm going with Majestic in this round. I love Thor but I'm under no delusions about his capabilities. Truth is, in terms of practical fighting feats, Thor's kind of a s***ty allegedly "major" powerhouse.

As far as King Thor goes, I can think of two iterations that I would say could take Majestic--one with ease, no less: 1) the Reigning version, from a future where Thor had held the Odinpower for centuries, and 2) the Ragnarok version, from when Thor sacrificed both eyes to gain knowledge of rune magic and could access the full potential of the Odinpower.

[Majic Walrus]

I agree with Corp.

[Genesis 1.0]

Corp, are you really busting my balls over the pic? I said it's King Thor and my word is law dammit.

As to the match, I agree with 2 of the sentiments expressed:

-Wherever they fight is SCREWED. There won't be anything left but rubble or space dust.

-Majestic is essenially Supes with more power and a Reed Richards or Braniac level brain.

In addition, he's also faster than I've ever seen Thor in any incarnation, Corp feel free to shine some light if necessary, AND he's got a monster resistance to powerful Hoo Doo, which in my opinion, tips the scales.

Mr. Majestic


4-2 Mr. Majestic

[CanaryFan]

King Thor

[Genesis 1.0]

Even with his main asset's reduced efficency, he is KING Thor.

4-3 Mr. Majestic

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm not busting your balls over a picture, I'm pointing out that your match-up is unclear. "King Thor" is a meaningless term. There are several different versions of Thor classified as "King Thor," each of which has a different measure of control over the Odinpower and therefore a different overall power level. That would affect the outcome of the match in my mind, so I don't actually have enough information to vote based solely on the words "King Thor" and a picture of Thor's clone.

As for speed, Thor can move as fast as lightning according to his earliest appearances. It's not often showcased, though, and it has, like every other power Thor's ever had, been remarkably inconsistent over Thor's existence. The natural instinct most writers seem to have is to characterize Thor as a strong guy who can 1) hit things with a hammer or 2) hit things with lightning. It's kind of pathetic. So, really, considering him to have super-speed is about as valid as considering him to not have super-speed.

[Genesis 1.0]

Alright, let memake it perfectly clear for my Thor officianado. I'm referring to the King Thor that debuted at the end of Issue #44 after finally accepting his role as King folowing Odin's death. The same issue where he dons the new kickass costume.

Under whatever guise you wish to call him during that time: King Thor, or Reigning Thor, it's THAT specific powerset.

Dammit Corp, leave it to you to force me to be THAT specific concerning a character.

As to the speed of the 2, Thor's fast as lightning and Mr. Majestic has traelled from Earth to Saturn in the time it took his opponent to finish a sentence. Nevermind the fact that he's traveled at thousands of times the speed of light from the Milky Way and back.

Majestic Speed > Thor Speed

4 - 3 Mr. Majestic

[Lobo]

Seeing as I only voted for the planet losing previously, allow me to vote Majestic, he's like pre-crisis Supes with the mind of Brainiac, as you noted earlier.

Lightning varies in speed, but at fastest I believe is half the speed of light.

[Silicon Surfer]

IIRC from science class it travels at about 1100 mph.

[Genesis 1.0]

IIRC from science class it travels at about 1100 mph.

Yeah.....

King Thor's screwed.:o

5-3 Mr. Majestic

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Heh, I didn't even know there was a new thread. I was wondering why the old one hadn't been updated.

King Thor, The power boost he got as King Thor should be enough and although it was never specificaly stated I assume all his powers got a boost including his speed so King Thor is faster than lightning. How much faster??????????

[Lobo]

IIRC from science class it travels at about 1100 mph.

It varies I googled :O

[TheCorpulent1]

Alright, let memake it perfectly clear for my Thor officianado. I'm referring to the King Thor that debuted at the end of Issue #44 after finally accepting his role as King folowing Odin's death. The same issue where he dons the new kickass costume.

Under whatever guise you wish to call him during that time: King Thor, or Reigning Thor, it's THAT specific powerset.

Dammit Corp, leave it to you to force me to be THAT specific concerning a character.

As to the speed of the 2, Thor's fast as lightning and Mr. Majestic has traelled from Earth to Saturn in the time it took his opponent to finish a sentence. Nevermind the fact that he's traveled at thousands of times the speed of light from the Milky Way and back.

Majestic Speed > Thor Speed

4 - 3 Mr. Majestic
Was that so hard? :oldrazz:

I'm gonna go with Majestic still. That version of King Thor was basically just classic Thor but a but stronger and tougher. He didn't really know how to use the Odinpower for anything.

[Genesis 1.0]

Heh, I didn't even know there was a new thread. I was wondering why the old one hadn't been updated.

King Thor, The power boost he got as King Thor should be enough and although it was never specificaly stated I assume all his powers got a boost including his speed so King Thor is faster than lightning. How much faster??????????

He was NEVER shown anywhere near 1,000's of times the speed of light. When it comes to speed, Thor's just screwed this match, he can't match Majestic.

And yes, Corp, it was.

5-4 Mr. Majestic

[trustyside-kick]

Posting just to subscribe since Thor is so outmatched. But will toss in my un-needed vote for Majestic anyway. Didn't realize a new thread was made.

[Genesis 1.0]

Welcome back to the fold.


The King is Dead, Long Live the King! Mr. Majestic, owner of the most pimp name in comics soundly drubs one of the most powerful guys in the Marvel Universe, former King Thor 6-4.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8494/blackadam.jpg

Black Adam

VS

http://i32.tinypic.com/14t7lzq.jpg

Gladiator

[Genesis 1.0]

Heh, if Anubis thought the last match was good....

You know, all these battles tend to be planet destroyers. Adam nor Kallark really give a **** when it comes to winning at all costs.

[Lobo]

Holy ****. I think maybe I need to flip a coin here.

[Genesis 1.0]

Heh, now THAT tells me this match kicks ass.

These guys are actually alot alike, simply with different goals and quite frankly, they're pretty much evenly matched.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Black Adam

[Silicon Surfer]

Gladiator

[Genesis 1.0]

1-1 tie

[SuperFerret]

Black Adam

[Hound55]

This match would have to be happening in deep space.

We've clearly run out of planets to host fights by now...

[Anubis]

I'll go Glads. Though I think he's gonna lose a limb or two in the process. Good match Gen.

[Genesis 1.0]

Heh, I think both of these guys are going to need a healing factor upgrade after this one. Then again, I don't see one of them walking away from this alive.

This match would have to be happening in deep space.

We've clearly run out of planets to host fights by now...

Heh, it'll start out on one of the millions of planets in a mutual universe, it'll probably end in an asteroid belt that used to be a planetary system.

This is going to be damn close, but I'll go Black Adam. It's overused, but maybe Adam taking Glads to the limit will shake his confidence for a second, and in that opening, I expect Adam to capitalize, if he has anything left.

OR

Being taken to the limit will just piss Kallark off....

3-2 Black Adam

[trustyside-kick]

Black Adam. Once Glads sees how ruthless of a beast this guy is his confidence will go way way down. :cwink:

[Hound55]

Since we're going with most recent version I'll go with Black Adam because he's been straight fire recently... not that Gladiator's a slouch.

Dude's been on a mission since the whole 52 thing and the death of the Black Marvel family... that'll knock the wind out of Glaadiator's sails, he doesn't see folk as determined AND powerful AND ruthless as Black Adam often.

[Mazrim Taim]

Gladiator

[Chunin]

Kallark is stronger and he's been head of the Imperial Guard for a long time which means he's seen his share of various powerful species. I don't think he'll be overpowered by one tough guy when he's beaten dozens of his type before.

Gladiator

[Lobo]

Black Adam

[CanaryFan]

Teth. Gladiators never faced anyone like him and he'll wet himself within minutes of meeting him.

[Genesis 1.0]

Teth. Gladiators never faced anyone like him and he'll wet himself within minutes of meeting him.

Whaaaa? You're joking, right?:o

You don't know **** if you actually think Gladiator's going to piss himself coming up against Adam, he wouldn't piss himself against Supes either. You see the counter-balance to his confidence is his overwhelming arrogance.

Kallark's been doing this for a LONG time and he comes into every fight thinking he can kick ______'s ass, it doesn't matter. He fought Vulcan, kicked his ass, and then ripped out an eye.:wow:

7-4 Black Adam

[Majic Walrus]

Black Adam.

[Genesis 1.0]

In a titanic battle of EPIC proportions, 2 of the best in the DC & Marvel Universe fought it out but only Black Adam walked away with an 8-4 victory over Gladiator of the Imperial Guard.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3755/desak1.jpg

Desak The God Destroyer
w/ Amulet of Power

VS

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6472/despero1.jpg

Despero

[Genesis 1.0]

For those who don't know Desak, it's pretty simple: his only job is to kill gods. Literally. He's wiped out entire Pantheons on gods on his own with little effort and fights only at that level.

His Amulet sucks the power of each god he's killed and adds it to his own.

One of the few worthy of Despero.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Desak

[SuperFerret]

It seems like a tough one, given what Desak can do, but I think Despero could pull out a win here.

[Hound55]

*Waits to pounce on MajicWalrus' vote and reasoning*

[WolfCypher]

If Desak is as powerful as I imagine, DESAK!

[Genesis 1.0]

*Waits to pounce on MajicWalrus' vote and reasoning*

Heh, you're learning. One thing though, he has no real reasoning.:o

I usually make it a rule never to vote against Despero but in this case, Desak's got just enough to edge him out wth the Amulet. Fighting gods 24/7 raises your game a whole hell of alot.

3-1 Desak, God Destroyer

[Silicon Surfer]

Despero

[Mazrim Taim]

Desak

[Ace of Knaves]

Desak.

[Genesis 1.0]

I told him it'd pay off. Just say your prayers, take your vitamins, eat your Wheaties, and kill gods all your life and you'll BE somebody.


5-2 Desak

[SuperFerret]

Don't forget to drink your school and stay in milk. Or something.

[Silicon Surfer]

And then after you merge with one of the most powerful things in creation, the Destroyer Armor you get one shotted by the god you were trying to kill and get killed by him .....for the second time.

[Genesis 1.0]

A monumental fail seeing as that same armor had to be tamed by Galactus for fear of it's power. But sure, Thunder Boy, you can decapitate it.

Riiiiiiight.:o

But it's no worse than Despero being bitten by f'n SHARKS and being wounded from it. Or having a STEEL bar rip through you by a midling class hero, in no way a god.

Like I said before, Desak's been killing entire pantheons of gods, it's his only mission in life andhe's become damn good at it, the best I'd say. With the Amulet storing the power of the gods he's killed, he's not only Despero's match, he's that much better.


5-2 Desak