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spideyboy_1111
06-10-2010, 10:12 AM
Didnt he pull off that stuff in that one episode tho? And isnt Spider-Carnage a clone of Parker's? Isnt Parkers clone as smart as he is?

ok, never base your knowledge off the spider-man animated series.... he is a clone, ben reilly infact.

Spider-Carnage


During the Web of Carnage[10][11][12][13] arc, Ben Reilly was bonded with the symbiote Carnage. While incarcerated at Ravencroft, the symbiote left Cletus Kassidy and bonded with John Jameson. While trying to stop a rampaging Jameson, the symbiote changes host to bond with Reilly to form Spider-Carnage. Throughout this period, Ben struggled for control of himself, trying to prevent it from taking over.

Ben Reilly decides the only person able to help him rid himself of the Carnage symbiote is Peter Parker. After arriving at Ben Reilly's apartment, Peter, unaware that Ben is bonded with Carnage, turns the conversation toward resolving the mystery of the skeleton found in the smoke stack, which testing showed also was a clone of Peter Parker. Ben's internal thought struggle to kill Peter Parker then becomes more and more intense until Ben tells Peter to leave.

After Peter's departure, Ben continues to struggle with thoughts of killing Peter Parker. The symbiote convinces Ben that he has to protect Seward Trainer from Parker, who was on his way to visit Seward in the hospital to find out what he knew about the cloned skeleton. As Ben continues to struggle with thoughts of killing Peter Parker, he finds himself on the roof of the hospital fighting for control of himself. The symbiote nearly dominates Ben Reilly as hospital security guards attempt in vain to engage him. The rooftop fight causes Peter Parker to investigate and he is surprised to find a "Spider-Carnage". Spider-Carnage immediately attacks Parker and nearly knocks him off the roof of the hospital. Peter reaches out to Ben Reilly and pleads with him to fight the symbiote that is nearly in complete control of him. Ben barely regains control of himself and warns Peter to stay away from Seward or he would not be responsible for his actions against Peter.

Reilly was eventually able to free himself of the symbiote, after a long inner battle with the creature, overcoming it with the strength of his character. Shortly after separating from Ben, the symbiote rejoined with Kassidy. Seward Trainer disappeared while Ben fought his battle with the Carnage symbiote. Ben had his bank account frozen and his possessions stolen before, finally, the Grind was burned down and Ben was framed for arson.

he didnt do anything "smart" persay... and quite personally... no one with a symbiote has ever been "that smart" when taken over. so thats my point of why it would come off very weird.

ProjectPat2280
06-10-2010, 10:18 AM
Well Reilly is still Parkers clone and id assume dude isnt a mindless drone. So i dont think it'd be odd at all to see S-C be the overall villain, with that said tho, i rather see the overall villain be someone who has attempted something like this before. Either someone of cosmic powers or one of Spidey's villains who have tried to take over the world before.

spideyboy_1111
06-10-2010, 10:24 AM
Well Reilly is still Parkers clone and id assume dude isnt a mindless drone. So i dont think it'd be odd at all to see S-C be the overall villain, with that said tho, i rather see the overall villain be someone who has attempted something like this before. Either someone of cosmic powers or one of Spidey's villains who have tried to take over the world before.

see i disagree with you strongly about spider-carnage... peter alone isn't smart enough to pull of interdemensional chaos so why would his clone? The whole motif of it all sounds alot like (osborn, ock, dr. doom, beyonder, annihilus, kingpin, silvermane, mephisto etc...)

ProjectPat2280
06-10-2010, 10:39 AM
see i disagree with you strongly about spider-carnage... peter alone isn't smart enough to pull of interdemensional chaos so why would his clone? The whole motif of it all sounds alot like (osborn, ock, dr. doom, beyonder, annihilus, kingpin, silvermane, mephisto etc...)


His clone coupled with a symbiote could provide him the know how to pull it off. They take some liberties. Thats not hard to fathom...at all. But like i said, i rather see it be someone like you mentioned, Ock, Doom etc. If i had my way it'd be Osborn, but that aint happening.

spideyboy_1111
06-10-2010, 10:47 AM
symbiotes arn't smart though... there not going to "add" the brains to anything.

THE LIZARD#1
06-10-2010, 12:44 PM
I don't think Spider-Carnage is going to be the 4th dimension. Like someone pointed out earlier, 2099 said "Each has its own selfless hero." Spider-Carnage is far from that.

spideyboy_1111
06-10-2010, 01:15 PM
i dunno... i could see his story be about trying to get rid of it... or maintain goodness or something

LightningFlash
06-10-2010, 01:48 PM
I vote 'nay' on Spider-Carnage being the final villain. I want something that feels different than the series finale of the old cartoon.

Now Spider-Carnage being playable and fighting heroes, that might be pretty cool, and with the fact that after three different universes, we start to get into B-villain territory and even C-level. Having the fourth take on heroes such as Iron Man, Hulk, maybe even Punisher(it'll be different for sure, imo) would be a nice change of pace, and THEN having the good Spideys having to team up with Spider-Carnage would be fun at the end.

At last, another edit:

What if Spider-Carnage is placed in a alternate sort of universe where the heroes are evil? That would make Spider-Carnage a "selfless hero", but the other Spideys see him as evil as Carnage is in his name.

LightningFlash
06-10-2010, 01:51 PM
Edit: double post.

ProjectPat2280
06-10-2010, 04:39 PM
I vote 'nay' on Spider-Carnage being the final villain. I want something that feels different than the series finale of the old cartoon.

Now Spider-Carnage being playable and fighting heroes, that might be pretty cool, and with the fact that after three different universes, we start to get into B-villain territory and even C-level. Having the fourth take on heroes such as Iron Man, Hulk, maybe even Punisher(it'll be different for sure, imo) would be a nice change of pace, and THEN having the good Spideys having to team up with Spider-Carnage would be fun at the end.

At last, another edit:

What if Spider-Carnage is placed in a alternate sort of universe where the heroes are evil? That would make Spider-Carnage a "selfless hero", but the other Spideys see him as evil as Carnage is in his name.

I vote 'nay' on any symbiote appearing in any form, but from the end of that last trailer, im assuming thats Spider-Carnage.

Spidey_62
06-10-2010, 07:00 PM
New video interview with Thomas Wilson, Pre-E3. (http://screwattack.com/videos/Pre-E3-Activision-Event-Spider-Man-Shattered-Dimensions)

So apparently one villain in one of the dimensions is getting a sex-change and it's not Venom.:woot:

Ok, not really; but one male Spidey villain will be female in another dimension.

socool
06-10-2010, 07:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gfv1J32-XY

this vid describes the spider-sense. each universe will have one distinct spider-sense ability.

Amazing-see through walls
Noir-night vision
2099-slow down time

but they will all have one core ability and that is the spider-sense will be able to highlight usable objects and show enemy's health.

MikeFrost
06-10-2010, 09:05 PM
Let's hope it's not Female Doc Ock...

LightningFlash
06-10-2010, 09:35 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/ff/LadyOctopus.png

Thinking about this though, a female Doc Ock makes the most sense. If it's not a female Venom, I can't really think of any other female version of a villain.


Edit: Maybe a female Mysterio?

spideyboy_1111
06-11-2010, 04:19 AM
well... most of spidey's villains already have a female counter part... and i'd love to see really any of them (scorpia/scorpion, lady ock/doc ock, quicksand/sandman, calypso/kraven, she-venom or scream/venom, i think his only other main villains who havent had a true female version villain would be (mysterio, lizard, electro, vulture, rhino, shocker, hobgoblin)

KevanG
06-11-2010, 05:36 AM
What about Elektra? :p Kidding

Spider-ManHero12
06-11-2010, 07:50 AM
New video interview with Thomas Wilson, Pre-E3. (http://screwattack.com/videos/Pre-E3-Activision-Event-Spider-Man-Shattered-Dimensions)

So apparently one villain in one of the dimensions is getting a sex-change and it's not Venom.:woot:

Ok, not really; but one male Spidey villain will be female in another dimension. Awesome interview. So, I wonder who'll get the sex change? Lol.

ProjectPat2280
06-11-2010, 11:33 AM
Who ever it is, i hope they are B List. I'll be pissed if its Doc Ock.

Mario_Galaxy
06-11-2010, 12:22 PM
A female Hypno Hustler?

MikeFrost
06-11-2010, 12:30 PM
Walrus Girl!

LightningFlash
06-11-2010, 01:18 PM
well... most of spidey's villains already have a female counter part... and i'd love to see really any of them (scorpia/scorpion, lady ock/doc ock, quicksand/sandman, calypso/kraven, she-venom or scream/venom, i think his only other main villains who havent had a true female version villain would be (mysterio, lizard, electro, vulture, rhino, shocker, hobgoblin)

Well I think we can cross out Venom, as it's been confirmed it won't be a female Venom. And we're getting Kraven, plus Calypso will be on DS(but I wouldn't call them the same type of person just as a different gender), and I'm almost positive that Sandman will show up. I doubt we will get a female Scorpion version, as it just won't make sense seeing as how Activistion has screwed Scorpion up so many times in past games, if the villain were to show up, we deserve the real version.

My best bet is 'Lady Ock', unless they do a sex change of a villain that doesn't have a female counterpart(my suggestion was a female Mysterio).

Edit: UNLESS....

the 'Carnage' spoilers are true, but it's not Spider-Carnage, it's.....

wait for it....


AUNT CARNAGE

:hehe:

Ryuuie
06-11-2010, 02:00 PM
Well I think we can cross out Venom, as it's been confirmed it won't be a female Venom. And we're getting Kraven, plus Calypso will be on DS(but I wouldn't call them the same type of person just as a different gender), and I'm almost positive that Sandman will show up. I doubt we will get a female Scorpion version, as it just won't make sense seeing as how Activistion has screwed Scorpion up so many times in past games, if the villain were to show up, we deserve the real version.

My best bet is 'Lady Ock', unless they do a sex change of a villain that doesn't have a female counterpart(my suggestion was a female Mysterio).

Edit: UNLESS....

the 'Carnage' spoilers are true, but it's not Spider-Carnage, it's.....

wait for it....


AUNT CARNAGE

:hehe:

Where was it confirmed that we won't see Anne Weying (She-Venom)?

LightningFlash
06-11-2010, 04:56 PM
Where was it confirmed that we won't see Anne Weying (She-Venom)?

On that last interview with Thomas Wilson. He mentioned that a villain will be getting a sex change, and they showed She-Venom, but a caption said "this isn't the villain btw" or something like that. I don't see why that would be in the video if it was a lie, so I'm pretty sure it was confirming that She-Venom won't be showing up.

Ryuuie
06-11-2010, 05:01 PM
On that last interview with Thomas Wilson. He mentioned that a villain will be getting a sex change, and they showed She-Venom, but a caption said "this isn't the villain btw" or something like that. I don't see why that would be in the video if it was a lie, so I'm pretty sure it was confirming that She-Venom won't be showing up.

Ahh. Ok. I wasn't saying it was a lie, just that I didn't see it and wanted confirmation to add to the main thread.

Pac-Master
06-14-2010, 02:26 PM
G4 just showed gameplay of Shattered Dimensions, complete with 2099!!!

socool
06-14-2010, 03:06 PM
don't post a link. it's not like any of use don't want ot see it... :whatever:

Nathan
06-14-2010, 03:14 PM
It's on TV... I already asked for a link in another thread.

Pac-Master
06-14-2010, 03:16 PM
don't post a link. it's not like any of use don't want ot see it... :whatever:

Sorry dude but it was on TV. Maybe G4's site will post it later. I had no clue it was coming on either. I just got lucky.

socool
06-14-2010, 03:20 PM
oh. my bad...i didn't think there would be anything on tv that was special either!!! :csad:

JustABill
06-14-2010, 03:46 PM
well... most of spidey's villains already have a female counter part... and i'd love to see really any of them (scorpia/scorpion, lady ock/doc ock, quicksand/sandman, calypso/kraven, she-venom or scream/venom, i think his only other main villains who havent had a true female version villain would be (mysterio, lizard, electro, vulture, rhino, shocker, hobgoblin)
Lizard's technically got his female counterpart in the hero, Komodo. Her origin links directly back to Connors.

GoldGoblin
06-14-2010, 06:42 PM
This game looks like crap.

ProjectPat2280
06-14-2010, 06:57 PM
This game looks like crap.

Explain. Or are you just going off past history of Spidey titles.

Sebastos
06-14-2010, 08:42 PM
I thought the footage that was shown was pretty good.

Dark_Lord
06-14-2010, 09:05 PM
HERE (http://e3.g4tv.com/videos/46379/E3-2010-Live-Spider-Man-Shattered-Dimensions/) is the footage from G4, for those that didn't see it.

ProjectPat2280
06-14-2010, 09:08 PM
So far i think the game looks good, but i HATE the web based combat for the Amazing universe. They shoulda saved that for another universe.

Spidey_62
06-14-2010, 09:37 PM
I think the overall character animation looks pretty polished and fluid. Y'know, not jerky and whatnot. I liked that preview, looks cool.

Spider-Vader
06-14-2010, 09:45 PM
This game looks like crap.

You're a troll in the game forums.

Ryuuie
06-14-2010, 10:33 PM
So far i think the game looks good, but i HATE the web based combat for the Amazing universe. They shoulda saved that for another universe.

I've never seen Amazing Spider-Man punch or kick someone. :csad:

Wait, he may have once... but only once.

Jick09
06-14-2010, 10:40 PM
My excitment dropped quite a tad after the video.

The combat doesn't looks as interesting anymore. I didn't like how Spidey fought Kraven and Goblin and the boss fights looked downright boring. There was no excitment in it.

MikeFrost
06-14-2010, 10:53 PM
Spidey pulling "stuff" from the scenery with his webs is a massive copout when there's not actually anything in the scenery to throw... If they can't make it look good, why do they include such over the top web moves?

Ryuuie
06-14-2010, 11:33 PM
My guess is they've seen WAY too much of the old 60s Spider-Man show where he made things out of his web.

I just want to see him punch someone... it's starting to remind me of the 90s show where he wasn't allowed to punch or kick anyone. =/

Upset Spideyfan
06-14-2010, 11:46 PM
Spidey used to make insane things in the comic as well.

Ryuuie
06-14-2010, 11:51 PM
Spidey used to make insane things in the comic as well.

Yea... in the 60s. :P

He also used to bribe people with Hostess Twinkies and talk them out of drugs. Will we get that in this game too? Cause... if you're gonna include the web weapons...

:P

I still have the comic with Spidey, Storm, and two others talking people out of taking drugs. It was... interesting.

LightningFlash
06-14-2010, 11:56 PM
I hate watching demos being played because I am always thinking, "This guy sucks", lol. So the gameplay is probably crappy because of the guy who's playing it, haha.

My gripe is still Amazing Spider-Man. I am not fond of his web-based attacks with creating web hammers and web rocks and what not. I'd rather use my webbing some, but to also kick and punch the crap out of the villain. At least 2099 looks to have a great gameplay system going on, and Noir will just feel like Arkham Asylum.

GoldGoblin
06-14-2010, 11:57 PM
Explain. Or are you just going off past history of Spidey titles.

^
Cause spidey 2099 sucks.

Ryuuie
06-15-2010, 12:00 AM
I hate watching demos being played because I am always thinking, "This guy sucks", lol. So the gameplay is probably crappy because of the guy who's playing it, haha.

My gripe is still Amazing Spider-Man. I am not fond of his web-based attacks with creating web hammers and web rocks and what not. I'd rather use my webbing some, but to also kick and punch the crap out of the villain. At least 2099 looks to have a great gameplay system going on, and Noir will just feel like Arkham Asylum.

It's probably someone at Beenox playing and being forced to use web weapons over and over and over and over. :P

I still say, if they give us those corny things, throw in the Twinkies and anti-drug bits that the 60s also had. :D

Cause spidey 2099 sucks.

:P Yea, and the WHOLE GAME is centered around him, hmm?

JustABill
06-15-2010, 12:14 AM
^
Cause spidey 2099 sucks.
LMFAO. Tell another Joke! Tell another!

No, seriously. You make Dane Cook look HILARIOUS.

Upset Spideyfan
06-15-2010, 12:21 AM
Yea... in the 60s. :P

He also used to bribe people with Hostess Twinkies and talk them out of drugs. Will we get that in this game too? Cause... if you're gonna include the web weapons...

Dude, be serious for once.


OF COURSE, we're going to include all of that.

Ryuuie
06-15-2010, 12:25 AM
Dude, be serious for once.


OF COURSE, we're going to include all of that.

Cool, cause that's how I'll beat Kraven then! :D


To be serious though, a What If? Mode for Amazing Spider-Man with all the weird campy 60s stuff like that would be pretty funny.

Anyone think of any What If? Modes that would make sense for the other 3 dimensions?

Drz
06-15-2010, 03:03 AM
Gameplay seemed fun.

spideyboy_1111
06-15-2010, 03:17 AM
Lizard's technically got his female counterpart in the hero, Komodo. Her origin links directly back to Connors.

i said villain. not hero. im well aware of komodo

Oscorp
06-15-2010, 05:09 AM
Naah, after watching that vid, I got quite disappointed.

socool
06-15-2010, 09:54 AM
the clip really didn't interest me but it really didn't disappoint either. im still gonna buy this game because, frankly...im too much of a fan for my own good.

GoldGoblin
06-15-2010, 06:35 PM
LMFAO. Tell another Joke! Tell another!

No, seriously. You make Dane Cook look HILARIOUS.

^
Your like a sheep,you like everything that they give you.

ProjectPat2280
06-15-2010, 06:40 PM
My guess is they've seen WAY too much of the old 60s Spider-Man show where he made things out of his web.

I just want to see him punch someone... it's starting to remind me of the 90s show where he wasn't allowed to punch or kick anyone. =/

Im with you. I think Amazings combat should of been focused on quick strikes. Hitting one guy, bouncing off that dudes shoulder to quickly strike another guy or something. Almost like Batman: Arkhams Asylums combat.

ProjectPat2280
06-15-2010, 06:41 PM
^
Your like a sheep,you like everything that they give you.

Do you have any evidence of that? Because your evidence as to why this game will suck, well, sucked.

socool
06-15-2010, 07:09 PM
Im with you. I think Amazings combat should of been focused on quick strikes. Hitting one guy, bouncing off that dudes shoulder to quickly strike another guy or something. Almost like Batman: Arkhams Asylums combat.


:doh: i shouldn't be suprised that i saw this but i still can't help myself from facepalming it...

ProjectPat2280
06-15-2010, 07:28 PM
:doh: i shouldn't be suprised that i saw this but i still can't help myself from facepalming it...


Explain.

I think Arkham Asylums combat would fit perfectly for Spider-Man. Actually i think its would fit better for Spidey.

socool
06-15-2010, 07:28 PM
i somewhat agree but it seems like everyone is comparing Spider-man to Batman now.

ProjectPat2280
06-15-2010, 07:41 PM
i somewhat agree but it seems like everyone is comparing Spider-man to Batman now.


Im not comparing anything. I just think the combat featured in Arkham would fit Spidey. I could see Spidey bouncing from one enemy to another with quick acrobatic strikes.

Nathan
06-15-2010, 07:49 PM
i somewhat agree but it seems like everyone is comparing Spider-man to Batman now.

Actually, Spider-Man had the bouncing combat first in the Ultimate game. They should've expanded on that for this game.

ProjectPat2280
06-15-2010, 07:51 PM
Actually, Spider-Man had the bouncing combat first in the Ultimate game. They should've expanded on that for this game.

Yea thats what i meant. Like you, i think they should of expanded on that. I could see some really cool potential for some great looking moves. Instead we get dumb web combat.

MikeFrost
06-15-2010, 11:25 PM
What's even more ironic is that everything is pointing to them having a Symbiote based dimension and yet they chose to make Amazing Spiderman the one who can shapeshift his webs...

:doh:

LightningFlash
06-16-2010, 12:22 AM
Well if anything, Symbiote Spidey(Poison) will have gameplay as Symbiote Spidey had in WoS, where he would probably use massive tentacles and what not instead of webs, which could still shape shift into objects and still look different than Amazing Spidey.

I'm looking forward, as of now, 2099, then Noir, and then Amazing.

JustABill
06-16-2010, 12:28 AM
^
Your like a sheep,you like everything that they give you.
WOW. KEEP EM COMING. YOU GOOD SIR ARE HILARIOUS. :hehe:

Me a sheep? Yeah, and George W. Bush is the most intelligent president we ever had and we just got out of the most prosperous age in centuries. :rolleyes:

LightningFlash
06-16-2010, 12:41 AM
^^ Wow, seriously, bringing in George W. Bush?

Because that totally makes you cool...

ProjectPat2280
06-16-2010, 12:26 PM
^^ Wow, seriously, bringing in George W. Bush?

Because that totally makes you cool...


LOL.

Yea i think you missed the bus on those jokes being funny.




Anyway, when is SDCC? I wanna know when this last dimension will be revealed.

zenith16
06-16-2010, 01:10 PM
My guess is they've seen WAY too much of the old 60s Spider-Man show where he made things out of his web.

I just want to see him punch someone... it's starting to remind me of the 90s show where he wasn't allowed to punch or kick anyone. =/ oh man, Ryuuie of all people here how did you forget that you can throw Punch's in
all parts of this game including Amazing using both the nunchuk controller of the Wii and now the PlayStation move part of this game ? How man? how? how?? You fell in to projectpat territory(well he just wants to complain) (Remembering is another issue cause he may not have ever payed attention to that part of it) but you in not Remembering that part....

You can still deck the hell outta and kick the villain if you want to man. wow.

GoldGoblin
06-16-2010, 01:47 PM
LOL.

Yea i think you missed the bus on those jokes being funny.


^
Cause he is a Dane Cook wanabee.

MikeFrost
06-16-2010, 02:04 PM
Well if anything, Symbiote Spidey(Poison) will have gameplay as Symbiote Spidey had in WoS, where he would probably use massive tentacles and what not instead of webs, which could still shape shift into objects and still look different than Amazing Spidey.

It might look different but it will play exactly the same way.

That's what I'm saying: they could've made Amazing the more classic counterpart and not go over the top with it and then use the other dimensions for that kind of gameplay.

Spider-ManHero12
06-16-2010, 02:14 PM
That video was awesome if you ask me. Looks pretty damn fun.

Ryuuie
06-16-2010, 02:46 PM
oh man, Ryuuie of all people here how did you forget that you can throw Punch's in
all parts of this game including Amazing using both the nunchuk controller of the Wii and now the PlayStation move part of this game ? How man? how? how?? You fell in to projectpat territory(well he just wants to complain) (Remembering is another issue cause he may not have ever payed attention to that part of it) but you in not Remembering that part....

You can still deck the hell outta and kick the villain if you want to man. wow.

PlayStation Move and Kinect won't be used in SM:SD. :P

However, I did see some punches and kicks thrown in. Still, it looks like Amazing will mostly be Web Weapons instead of actual punching.

socool
06-16-2010, 03:18 PM
@Ryuuie: You can play all of Amazing without throwing a single punch or kick, or by ONLY throwing punches and kicks. Your choice. I wouldn't worry too much.

@ProjectPat: The last dimensions will be revleaed at San Diego Comic Con. It's from July 22nd to July 25th. So we still have a month to wait.

zenith16
06-16-2010, 03:49 PM
PlayStation Move and Kinect won't be used in SM:SD. :P

However, I did see some punches and kicks thrown in. Still, it looks like Amazing will mostly be Web Weapons instead of actual punching. hmm it would seem you have indeed forgotten the part that you can switch from 3rd person to "first person hand to hand combat," during the boss fights.

which will be fist a flying for the latter of what i just mentioned. And it'll heavy on that part there if you choose play so. Of all people I know you should know this. since you actually pay attenting to these things.

which is why I mentioned "play station move" to begin with. If they haven't fully added that component yet? they will eventually. since the wii will be useing that part. it just makes sense there from players perspective. I can't say any thing on Kinect. yet.

ProjectPat2280
06-16-2010, 05:56 PM
oh man, Ryuuie of all people here how did you forget that you can throw Punch's in
all parts of this game including Amazing using both the nunchuk controller of the Wii and now the PlayStation move part of this game ? How man? how? how?? You fell in to projectpat territory(well he just wants to complain) (Remembering is another issue cause he may not have ever payed attention to that part of it) but you in not Remembering that part....

You can still deck the hell outta and kick the villain if you want to man. wow.


What in the blue hell are you rambling about?

My "complaining" is just about how Activision deals with their properties, which i have MORE than enough evidence to back up all my "complaints".

As for not liking the web based combat, i think i have plenty supporters on that as well. Most of us here think that using giant web maces and hammers should be reserved for another dimension, say a symbiote. Next time you call someone out, make sure you have your facts straight.

ProjectPat2280
06-16-2010, 05:56 PM
@ProjectPat: The last dimensions will be revleaed at San Diego Comic Con. It's from July 22nd to July 25th. So we still have a month to wait.

Thanks for the info.

zenith16
06-16-2010, 07:25 PM
ProjectPat2280[/LEFT];18437548]What in the blue hell are you rambling about?

My "complaining" is just about how Activion deals with their properties, which i have MORE than enough evidence to back up all my "complaints".

As for not liking the web based combat, i think i have plenty supporters on that as well. Most of us here think that using giant web maces and hammers should be reserved for another dimension, say as symbiote. Next time you call someone out, make sure you have your facts straight. oh my facts are straight. that game play in Amazing is meant for those of g4's Adam Ses age and those that actually saw that 60's spider cartoon and enjoyed and laughed( cause of the goofiness) at it. and not in the negative sense of it.


The freaking game was made to appeal to the broad spectrum of spider-man fans through out the ages. and the first Exposure most keep running in to on the Average joe mention is that era.

and not hear *****in about it. I don't care about the thing with Activions. those are valid. but half of your complaints on other stuff at times baffle me. Especlially what seem to be your exposer to co op that seem to only of the res 5 veriety when there other older more known styles which won't force to play that way.

Any way I 'm sure their trying to figure what other universe to use besides that of the symbiotes.

ProjectPat2280
06-16-2010, 07:41 PM
oh my facts are straight. that game play in Amazing is meant for those of g4's Adam Ses age and those that actually saw that 60's spider cartoon and enjoyed and laughed( cause of the goofiness) at it. and not in the negative sense of it.


The freaking game was made to appeal to the broad spectrum of spider-man fans through out the ages. and the first Esposer most keep running in to on the Average joe mention is that era.

and not hear *****in about it. I don't care about the thing with Activions. those are valid. but half of your complaint on other stuff at times baffle me. I 'm sure their trying to figure what to use be sides a symbiote.

LOL.

Your facts aren't straight, because other than the web based combat i haven't said that many negative things about the game. I mean Im skeptical, but for the most part i think the game looks quite good. Im not crazy about the inclusion of the monster Goblin as i rather have the classic villain, but i definitely am more interested in this game then i was Web of Shadows.

If the web based combat is an homage to the 60's thats fine, but it was stupid back then and its still stupid now.

zenith16
06-16-2010, 07:45 PM
yeah well the 60's on wasn't really made and put there to appeal to every one. Just those that that enjoyed that era as adam ses mentioned in that g 4 video. His gen not your gen not mine, his. and may be those oddites that found it fun or funny and enjoyed it just for that reason. you can call it stupid all you like. But that part ain't about you and even if I chose not to like it, it ain't about me ether. it's larger pic there their trying to appeal to and not every body's gonna like every thing. can't make every one fully happy or in the case from where your Speaking a cerain group overly happy on every level of it.

ProjectPat2280
06-16-2010, 07:50 PM
yeah well the 60's wasn't really made to appeal to every just those that that enjoyed that era as adam ses memtioned in that g 4 video. his gen not your not mine his. and may those oddites that found it fun or funny and enjoyed it just for that reason.

I guess. I feel they should of focused on the combat being a little less over the top in terms of using ur webs as giant maces. Leave that kind of stuff to Sandman, or have symbiote spidey do it. I think amazings combat should of been similar to how it was in the USM game. But maybe you wont have to use the giant web hammers and what not.

zenith16
06-16-2010, 07:56 PM
they showed that you won't have use it all the time in that part of the game as I mentioned. certain sections show you first person style hand to hand(just fists) with some of the bosses. I 'm sure you can do that to all of them, but your allowed to just use your fists and feet against them in that mode. that should make up for it. if not in third person. if it's not shown enough in the third person part of it.

Ryuuie
06-16-2010, 08:14 PM
wow.... Took me for-f**ing-ever to get logged in on my phone (don't ask).

anyway, let it be known that I don't mind the web weapons. I just worry that it'll be all that will be mainly used. I liked the 60s show a tad more than the 90s due to that being what started me watching Spidey, but if I want to punch someone then I want to punch someone. :p

yay for typing on awesome qwerty phones. :D

also yay for opera mobile!

ProjectPat2280
06-16-2010, 08:45 PM
they showed that you won't have use it all the time in that part of the game as I mentioned. certain sections show you first person style hand to hand(just fists) with some of the bosses. I 'm sure you can do that to all of them, but your allowed to just use your fists and feet against them in that mode. that should make up for it. if not in third person. if it's not shown enough in the third person part of it.

Well i dont count the first person sections due to their limited nature. Like Ryuuie stated, i just hope im not forced into using these giant web weapons for all my combat.

socool
06-17-2010, 07:31 PM
tour booth of Shattered Dimension!!!
http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6266554/?hd=1

looks really cool. the dodge move looks perfect. and i noticed that the emblems in each dimension are the same symbol on the back of that dimensions Spider-man.

socool
06-17-2010, 07:33 PM
i fixed the link incase anyone pressed on the wrong one

Nathan
06-17-2010, 08:03 PM
Watching the video right now. I really love how Noir's gameplay looks. He seems to really effortlessly be able to zip around the environment.

Door Noob
06-17-2010, 08:13 PM
Aside from the Noir I'm not really digging the other two universes so much.

Spidey_62
06-17-2010, 08:27 PM
18 minutes long, wow!:wow:

Spidey_62
06-17-2010, 10:55 PM
That gameplay looks a lot better than the stuff a few days ago I thought. Goes to show a good demonstrator can make a difference.:yay:

MACH
06-18-2010, 06:43 AM
I have to be honest, I'm pretty excited after watching that video. Ive been excited from the beginning but some of the combat stuff they have shown recently looks really fun and although I am a little disappointed it isnt an "open" world, at the same time I really feel like they exausted that idea(atleast with this gens consoles) with the last few games.

Having been playing through Spider-Man Web Of Shadows recently I actually do think it is the best game. Obviously the glitches automatically make it one of the worst, as does the voice acting(has actually gotten to a point where I play it with no vocal sound at all, even through the cutscenes), the plot and little things that were obvious to add(weather changes etc). But a major plus point for it was the webswinging(sorry not really a fan of Spidey 2's how to hit a wall gameplay), the fact they went with a comic book rather than a movie, the graphics(in places) but most of all the gameplay! Although I spammed the hell out of it: the webbing a guy and pulling towards him and pulling of the spinning him around you while kicking him, simply awesome! The combat really made you feel like Spidey and NONE of the other games have managed to do that. And it would appear that judging by those videos the combat is still intact and slightly updated which makes it even cooler!

I think now they dont have to worry about the open world(or the webs actually attaching to a building it would seem), we could actually end up with a game that is full on combat and fun, with less glitches, plenty of treats to come back for etc. I'm especially loving the fact in the video it was said we will be getting extra costumes! This easily could be Spidey's Arkham!

More importantly than that though, I think this could be the Next-Gen version of the original Spider-Man ps1 game! And while that didnt allow you a total free world, lets be honest, it was probably the best Spidey game.

MACH
06-18-2010, 06:47 AM
Side note: Still no clue what the 4th dimension is but find it REALLY strange they are saving it for comic-con...........that would have us thinking its something that comic fans will really want.....but what is left? Are people really that interested in a symbiote character again? Doubtful....

Spider-X
06-18-2010, 10:29 AM
Side note: Still no clue what the 4th dimension is but find it REALLY strange they are saving it for comic-con...........that would have us thinking its something that comic fans will really want.....but what is left? Are people really that interested in a symbiote character again? Doubtful....

Personally...I love the symbiotes. Carnage, Venom, and Black Suit Spidey all look awesome. Carnage is a psychotic insanely-powered terrifying serial killer and Venom is a bad ass looking morally twisted lunatic. They make great villians IMO. The idea that the 4th dimension might be a planet of the symbiotes dimension has me excited. Web of Shadows didn't get the symbiotes right and the way this game seems to be getting handled leads me to believe they would do the symbiotes some well deserved justice.

ProjectPat2280
06-18-2010, 01:22 PM
So far i think the game looks really good in motion. The acrobatics in Amazing look spot on.

socool
06-18-2010, 01:55 PM
So far i think the game looks really good in motion. The acrobatics in Amazing look spot on.

they do and when Spidey is swinging the screen becomes blurred around the edges. looks fantastic!

Drz
06-18-2010, 02:39 PM
Well i liked the 18 minute footage. I just hope those missions/archievements where you need to kill enemies with X or Y style won't be too forced or repetive. :)

Ryuuie
06-18-2010, 05:11 PM
the game length worries the ***** out of me...

more on this tomorrow.

Drz
06-18-2010, 05:15 PM
Oh definatly. Whenever developers say 12 hours, good players can get good unlockables and complete the game in like 8-11 hours.

Ryuuie
06-18-2010, 07:26 PM
Oh definatly. Whenever developers say 12 hours, good players can get good unlockables and complete the game in like 8-11 hours.

Not just that.

A lot of previous interviews (including the WonderCon one) said that we get 3 levels in the game that are broken into 4 acts each.

If each level is only 1 hr, then that's only 3 hrs total of gameplay.

I haven't had a chance to see the vid until tomorrow, but if they don't mean that each of the 12 ACTS are an hour long, then this game is short as **** and completely not worth the cash.

I hope I'm severely wrong. I'll have to wait until tomorrow to check it out fully.

Nathan
06-18-2010, 07:40 PM
Even if the play time should be only 8 hours, it wouldn't bother me, as long as the game is awesome. Heck, I finished Spider-Man on the PS1 like twice a day, several times. And I still continued to replay the game for weeks.

MACH
06-18-2010, 07:43 PM
To be fair, I beat Arkham in less than 8 hours! And with collectables I got another few hours top. Short doesnt actually mean not worth the cash, if the experience is worth replaying. Thats not to say I wouldnt like a longer game though....

MikeFrost
06-18-2010, 08:00 PM
To be honest, the swinging seems kinda slow and doesn't give you momentum at all. Whenever he jumps off the end on a swing he does it vertically, without no forward speed applied whatsoever.

Also, is anyone else tired of him saying the "I HATE YOU SPIDERMAN" line? I'm beginning to think he really does :P

Spider-Vader
06-18-2010, 08:20 PM
The web based combat looks fun to me.

ProjectPat2280
06-18-2010, 08:43 PM
Not just that.

A lot of previous interviews (including the WonderCon one) said that we get 3 levels in the game that are broken into 4 acts each.

If each level is only 1 hr, then that's only 3 hrs total of gameplay.

I haven't had a chance to see the vid until tomorrow, but if they don't mean that each of the 12 ACTS are an hour long, then this game is short as **** and completely not worth the cash.

I hope I'm severely wrong. I'll have to wait until tomorrow to check it out fully.

Yea, im assuming he meant each of the 12 acts was about an hour long. Theres no way the game is only going to be 3 hours total.

To be fair, I beat Arkham in less than 8 hours! And with collectables I got another few hours top. Short doesnt actually mean not worth the cash, if the experience is worth replaying. Thats not to say I wouldnt like a longer game though....

Yea length doesn't necessarily make or break a game. I beat God of War III in 8 hours and you wanna try and argue that that game isnt a stellar title? Like you, im all for 15-20 hours of gameplay, but with todays development costs, i expect 8-10 hours. If they can give me that with great gameplay and an engaging story, ill keep coming back.

Dark_Lord
06-18-2010, 08:52 PM
Not just that.

A lot of previous interviews (including the WonderCon one) said that we get 3 levels in the game that are broken into 4 acts each.

If each level is only 1 hr, then that's only 3 hrs total of gameplay.

I haven't had a chance to see the vid until tomorrow, but if they don't mean that each of the 12 ACTS are an hour long, then this game is short as **** and completely not worth the cash.

I hope I'm severely wrong. I'll have to wait until tomorrow to check it out fully.

Actually....He said that the game is split into 3 acts. Each act has 4 missions. One for each dimension. He said that each mission would be about 1 hour long. That would be the game about 12 hours long. Of course when developers talk about the length of their game, it usually ends up being shorter that they actually said it would be.

Oscorp
06-19-2010, 06:40 AM
Looks pretty good actually, especially the 2099 universe looks pretty epic. I wanted a new villain to be revealed but I guess I'll have to wait for that a little bit more :P

LightningFlash
06-19-2010, 02:00 PM
Why do we only know four villains?

If there are thirteen villains, you'd think they would be nice enough to let us know at least eight villains by this time already. Maybe at Comic-Con they'll show four more villains?

I mean, I don't see why you would hide more than half of the villains to the public until the game came out.

Alchemyst
06-19-2010, 02:05 PM
Yea, im assuming he meant each of the 12 acts was about an hour long. Theres no way the game is only going to be 3 hours total.



Yea length doesn't necessarily make or break a game. I beat God of War III in 8 hours and you wanna try and argue that that game isnt a stellar title? Like you, im all for 15-20 hours of gameplay, but with todays development costs, i expect 8-10 hours. If they can give me that with great gameplay and an engaging story, ill keep coming back.

Let's hope this game has alot to offer, I'm really having a rough time keeping faith in this game due to the fact that Activision IMO delivers on a half-ass scale

Oscorp
06-19-2010, 02:19 PM
Why do we only know four villains?

If there are thirteen villains, you'd think they would be nice enough to let us know at least eight villains by this time already. Maybe at Comic-Con they'll show four more villains?

I mean, I don't see why you would hide more than half of the villains to the public until the game came out.

Yeah I agree, that's one of the things I was hoping to see the most...at least one villain reveal more for either Amazing or 2099. Just a little glimpse at least. The Kraven battles seem quite boring so far so I want something else from the Amazing universe to look forward to at least.

Spidey_62
06-19-2010, 02:30 PM
It was hard to hear over all the talking, but was Kraven being voiced by Gregg Berger there?

He voiced Kraven and Mysterio in TAS, he also does a lot of voice work for video games (even voiced Kingpin in WoS).

ProjectPat2280
06-19-2010, 03:05 PM
Let's hope this game has alot to offer, I'm really having a rough time keeping faith in this game due to the fact that Activision IMO delivers on a half-ass scale

Oh im with you man. This is one game i wont be picking up until after iv played it. When it comes to Spidey, they've burned us enough. I mean im liking what i see so far, but its still Activision and you just cant trust anything they, or their developers say.

Alchemyst
06-19-2010, 03:09 PM
Oh im with you man. This is one game i wont be picking up until after iv played it. When it comes to Spidey, they've burned us enough. I mean im liking what i see so far, but its still Activision and you just cant trust anything they, or their developers say.


hell yeah, and what people don't realize is when you watch a video, they're only gonna show what they consider to be the good parts of the game, the flaws don't become apparent until you've purchased it. I would like to get this game jus like the next man, but I'm getting kinda sick of the lack of effort. Believe me, I will be waiting until a review comes out before I purchase it

socool
06-19-2010, 06:04 PM
watch, this game will have no flaws and it will be amazing. we will end up trusting Activision again and they will burn us with a half-assed, rushed follow up. watch. lol! the reason Spider-man games are so rushed is because Spider-man is not their top priority. They know Spidey is a money-cow and will put Spidey games out there to fund their bigger projects (i.e. Call of Duty) The only way we can get a good Spidey game is either when Activision losses the rights or they accidentally make a good one... (as mentioned on the beginning of the post.)

ProjectPat2280
06-19-2010, 07:05 PM
watch, this game will have no flaws and it will be amazing. we will end up trusting Activision again and they will burn us with a half-assed, rushed follow up. watch. lol! the reason Spider-man games are so rushed is because Spider-man is not their top priority. They know Spidey is a money-cow and will put Spidey games out there to fund their bigger projects (i.e. Call of Duty) The only way we can get a good Spidey game is either when Activision losses the rights or they accidentally make a good one... (as mentioned on the beginning of the post.)


Haha i have no doubt that if this title is fantastic, they'll just release a shallow follow up for the next 2 or 3 titles. Altho saying Spidey is a cash cow for them might not be accurate. WoS didnt sell too well. The Spider-Man name doesnt quite have the same pull it did a few years ago. Activision is pretty much funded by CoD at this point. Im assuming the reason for the last few Spidey titles sucking is because Activision has already recouped the money they spent for the license and just didnt really see a need to put a lot of time and effort into the development of those titles.

Alchemyst
06-19-2010, 08:00 PM
Haha i have no doubt that if this title is fantastic, they'll just release a shallow follow up for the next 2 or 3 titles. Altho saying Spidey is a cash cow for them might not be accurate. WoS didnt sell too well. The Spider-Man name doesnt quite have the same pull it did a few years ago. Activision is pretty much funded by CoD at this point. Im assuming the reason for the last few Spidey titles sucking is because Activision has already recouped the money they spent for the license and just didnt really see a need to put a lot of time and effort into the development of those titles.

Exactly, they've already raked in just about all they could with Spidey. After this game, the next Spider-man game we may see is one based on the upcoming reboot who knows

DACMAN
06-20-2010, 08:30 AM
Side note: Still no clue what the 4th dimension is but find it REALLY strange they are saving it for comic-con...........that would have us thinking its something that comic fans will really want.....but what is left? Are people really that interested in a symbiote character again? Doubtful....

Well let's see there's


Spider-Carnage
Symbiote Spidey
Spider-Girl
Zombie Spider-Man
Captain Universe Spider-Man
House of M Spider-Man
Movie Spider-Man
Ultimate Spider-Man


Personally I think it's Zombie Spider-Man...

http://www.comicmonsters.com/CMimages/Zombie_Spiderman.jpg

...but my fingers are crossed for Spider-Girl or Ultimate Spider-Man.

MACH
06-20-2010, 08:40 AM
It seems to me that some people not only run away with an assumption but also are extremely cynical.....lets be honest, the Spidey games up until now havent been that bad. They have had flaws sure(and the last one was super glitchy no doubt) but they havent been so awful that you cant play and enjoy them!(I for one have played through, beaten and played again over and over, ALL of them). This idea that activision doesnt give a **** is just kinda silly. I think you'll find that sometimes deadlines just arent met and thats why a product doesnt come out at the best standard. I love it when people talk about Spider-Man 2 like it was the cream of the crop! The best thing about it was that it was such a huge step forward as they finally gave us an open world. Apart from that..... BALLOON KID ANYONE?!?! Webswinging into walls constantly?!?!No matter how long you played or how good you got at it!(and I played so many hours on that game that the timer stopped!!)

I think some people should just be a little more positive and see what happens. There are a lot of people to please with a franchise that is so popular. If the game comes out and you do hate it then by all means have a rant, but going on and on about how "they are trying to screw us over", "all they care about is money", "spidey is a cash-cow" all just seems a little silly no?

So far I think they have been pretty brave going with 4 different Spider-man, 2 of which are really not even known outside the comic book community. On top of that giving us (FINALLY) decent actors that know how to play Spidey! And all this when apparently web of shadows didnt sell well? Fair play to them I say, I look forward to the finished results.

MACH
06-20-2010, 08:47 AM
Well let's see there's


Spider-Carnage
Symbiote Spidey
Spider-Girl
Zombie Spider-Man
Captain Universe Spider-Man
House of M Spider-Man
Movie Spider-Man
Ultimate Spider-Man


Personally I think it's Zombie Spider-Man...

http://www.comicmonsters.com/CMimages/Zombie_Spiderman.jpg

...but my fingers are crossed for Spider-Girl or Ultimate Spider-Man.

I just dont see how Zombie Spider-Man could work....I think the most obvious is Spider-Carnage...or some kind of symbiote Spidey(just judging from the trailer....

I would love House of M(again not sure how this would work though) or Ultimate Spidey(although it does seem too similar to Amazing)....and Spider-Girl would be soooo fricking cooool! Just for the fact it would be soooo different!

But Spider-Carnage(with Ben Reilly) would be awesome....obviously isnt another dimension though.

ProjectPat2280
06-20-2010, 11:10 AM
It seems to me that some people not only run away with an assumption but also are extremely cynical.....lets be honest, the Spidey games up until now havent been that bad. They have had flaws sure(and the last one was super glitchy no doubt) but they havent been so awful that you cant play and enjoy them!(I for one have played through, beaten and played again over and over, ALL of them). This idea that activision doesnt give a **** is just kinda silly. I think you'll find that sometimes deadlines just arent met and thats why a product doesnt come out at the best standard. I love it when people talk about Spider-Man 2 like it was the cream of the crop! The best thing about it was that it was such a huge step forward as they finally gave us an open world. Apart from that..... BALLOON KID ANYONE?!?! Webswinging into walls constantly?!?!No matter how long you played or how good you got at it!(and I played so many hours on that game that the timer stopped!!)

I think some people should just be a little more positive and see what happens. There are a lot of people to please with a franchise that is so popular. If the game comes out and you do hate it then by all means have a rant, but going on and on about how "they are trying to screw us over", "all they care about is money", "spidey is a cash-cow" all just seems a little silly no?

So far I think they have been pretty brave going with 4 different Spider-man, 2 of which are really not even known outside the comic book community. On top of that giving us (FINALLY) decent actors that know how to play Spidey! And all this when apparently web of shadows didnt sell well? Fair play to them I say, I look forward to the finished results.


Have you spent ANY time paying attention to how Activision operates? Thinking that 'all Activision cares about is money' is a silly statement is asinine. Are you familiar with CoD? What about Guitar Hero? Look at what they are doing to those franchises(now granted CoD has been above avg in quality but how long do you expect that to last with this business model), listen to what their CEO says on a regular basis. It'll shock you at how ridiculous that company is. As for saying past Spidey titles haven't been that bad, thats a bit of a stretch. WoS - 68 from Metacritic, Spider-Man 3 - 63, Spider-Man: FoF - 60. Of the last 4 Spidey titles only USM has rated above a 70 from Metacritic.

I mean you can see why a LOT of fans aren't ready to jump on this bandwagon cant you? We have yet to see an Arkham Asylum level quality Spider-Man title from Activision and i think Spidey fans deserve that.

Now, with all that said, im far more interested in Shattered Dimensions than i was at the same time for Web of Shadows. I think they are taking a neat and unexpected approach. Hopefully the game will be fantastic, but they have history working against them, which is why myself and others are still skeptical.

Spider-ManHero12
06-20-2010, 11:20 AM
As i said a few days ago in the HERO HQ Forum, that new 18 minutes footage looks fantastic. :up:

Spider-ManHero12
06-20-2010, 11:20 AM
As i said a few days ago in the HERO HQ Forum, that new 18 minutes footage looks fantastic. :up:

MACH
06-20-2010, 11:54 AM
Have you spent ANY time paying attention to how Activision operates? Thinking that 'all Activision cares about is money' is a silly statement is asinine. Are you familiar with CoD? What about Guitar Hero? Look at what they are doing to those franchises(now granted CoD has been above avg in quality but how long do you expect that to last with this business model), listen to what their CEO says on a regular basis. It'll shock you at how ridiculous that company is. As for saying past Spidey titles haven't been that bad, thats a bit of a stretch. WoS - 68 from Metacritic, Spider-Man 3 - 63, Spider-Man: FoF - 60. Of the last 4 Spidey titles only USM has rated above a 70 from Metacritic.

I mean you can see why a LOT of fans aren't ready to jump on this bandwagon cant you? We have yet to see an Arkham Asylum level quality Spider-Man title from Activision and i think Spidey fans deserve that.

Now, with all that said, im far more interested in Shattered Dimensions than i was at the same time for Web of Shadows. I think they are taking a neat and unexpected approach. Hopefully the game will be fantastic, but they have history working against them, which is why myself and others are still skeptical.


Thats fair enough, though I still feel you are being slightly dramatic. I also dont think that reviews are always correct. Plenty of games I dont enjoy get amazing reviews. I can only state my own opinion from playing the games, and ive mostly enjoyed them. And as far as Arkham goes, I LOVED IT! BUT thats ONE good Batman game and how many bad ones? lol

Not trying to argue. Just think sometimes its easy for people(not saying you specifically) to fill the boards with constant moaning and drama and it gets a little dull.

Glad to hear you at least have a little bit of positivity towards the new Spidey game though. It does look like its gonna be really fun!

Syncos
06-20-2010, 12:15 PM
Yea, im assuming he meant each of the 12 acts was about an hour long. Theres no way the game is only going to be 3 hours total.



Yea length doesn't necessarily make or break a game. I beat God of War III in 8 hours and you wanna try and argue that that game isnt a stellar title? Like you, im all for 15-20 hours of gameplay, but with todays development costs, i expect 8-10 hours. If they can give me that with great gameplay and an engaging story, ill keep coming back.

I beat the first Bioshock in just over 4 hours. And it's one of the best games i've played.

Superhero 101
06-20-2010, 12:34 PM
So far i am really digging Spiderman 2099 and Noir

socool
06-20-2010, 12:52 PM
Here is the underlining proof that Amazing Spider-man is voiced by James Arnold Taylor.

listen to 5:40 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?)
v=FoEbXJSFfQE&feature=youtube_gdata

and then James’ voice here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnzy08A8Ezo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnzy08A8Ezo)

now tell me that it’s not James voicing Spidey…

Spidey_62
06-20-2010, 02:52 PM
It seems to me that some people not only run away with an assumption but also are extremely cynical.....lets be honest, the Spidey games up until now havent been that bad. They have had flaws sure(and the last one was super glitchy no doubt) but they havent been so awful that you cant play and enjoy them!(I for one have played through, beaten and played again over and over, ALL of them). This idea that activision doesnt give a **** is just kinda silly. I think you'll find that sometimes deadlines just arent met and thats why a product doesnt come out at the best standard. I love it when people talk about Spider-Man 2 like it was the cream of the crop! The best thing about it was that it was such a huge step forward as they finally gave us an open world. Apart from that..... BALLOON KID ANYONE?!?! Webswinging into walls constantly?!?!No matter how long you played or how good you got at it!(and I played so many hours on that game that the timer stopped!!)


I think you kinda suck at the swinging in that game if you say you keep swinging into walls constantly. Just saying, take no offense!:rimshot:

But I do agree with you completely that Spidey games get a lot of undeserved flack. Not all of them are as good as the PS1 game or SM2 (imo) but the rest aren't the demon spawn's a lot of people I read on other sites make them out to be.

I'm betting socool is right that James Arnold Taylor is voicing Amazing Spidey, sounds a lot like him.

LightningFlash
06-20-2010, 04:59 PM
I'll say this.


Spider-Carnage - I could see it.
Symbiote Spidey - Spider-Carnage might be better than Poison, imo.
Spider-Girl - It wouldn't make sense for them to keep saying Spider-Men and to pull a fast one such as Spider-Girl.
Zombie Spider-Man - My personal preference at this moment.
Captain Universe Spider-Man - Not really.
House of M Spider-Man - Can't say I know anything about this one, lol.
Movie Spider-Man - Heck no.
Ultimate Spider-Man - Which is pretty much "Reboot Movie Spider-Man", lol. And again, heck no. Plus the combat will obviously have too much resemblance over Amazing.

MACH
06-20-2010, 07:25 PM
I think you kinda suck at the swinging in that game if you say you keep swinging into walls constantly. Just saying, take no offense!:rimshot:

But I do agree with you completely that Spidey games get a lot of undeserved flack. Not all of them are as good as the PS1 game or SM2 (imo) but the rest aren't the demon spawn's a lot of people I read on other sites make them out to be.

I'm betting socool is right that James Arnold Taylor is voicing Amazing Spidey, sounds a lot like him.

Swinging into walls constantly MAY have been slightly exaggerated lol. What I really meant was that I just didnt think the swing system was that good. I was quite happy with the swinging in WoS. To me a Spidey game should allow me to be Spidey with a ease, a learning curve sure, but still ease. Spidey 3 was too far that way though definitely.

DACMAN
06-21-2010, 06:19 AM
I thought Spider-Man 3 had the most realistic swing ever. All the others are overblown, but still fun.

DACMAN
06-21-2010, 06:34 AM
I'll say this.
Spider-Girl - It wouldn't make sense for them to keep saying Spider-Men and to pull a fast one such as Spider-Girl.

If you think about it, that could be a big reason they keep saying "Spider-Men." It would blow everyone away. And let's be honest. Out of all the ones I mentioned she's the most popular. There's a reason they saved her for last. Anyone else and it'll be just "meh."

Nathan
06-21-2010, 06:37 AM
Sadly, it's not gonna be Spider-Girl. When Gamestop leaked those Captain Universe costumes, the last Spidey didn't look female.

socool
06-21-2010, 10:52 AM
Sadly, it's not gonna be Spider-Girl. When Gamestop leaked those Captain Universe costumes, the last Spidey didn't look female.


this^^

it's not Spider-Girl. Don't get yourself worked up...

DACMAN
06-21-2010, 03:12 PM
That would have been so awesome...:(

I guess rather than her I'd like to see Ultimate. I kind of think it's Ultimate because we haven't seen a Spidey yet in a normal New York setting.

Nathan
06-21-2010, 03:18 PM
Well, we have seen screens and footage of Amazing Spider-Man in a construction site setting. Ultimate would be redundant. I think they'd want to give us a Spider-Man that looks visually different from Amazing, like Noir and 2099 do. Not just have the 4th Universe be a scrawny version of Amazing. With the quick glimbse of what I'm sure was Carnage, I'm convinced that the 4th universe will be symbiote based.

ProjectPat2280
06-21-2010, 03:27 PM
Well, we have seen screens and footage of Amazing Spider-Man in a construction site setting. Ultimate would be redundant. I think they'd want to give us a Spider-Man that looks visually different from Amazing, like Noir and 2099 do. Not just have the 4th Universe be a scrawny version of Amazing. With the quick glimbse of what I'm sure was Carnage, I'm convinced that the 4th universe will be symbiote based.


Yea i thought the same thing as well. I was sure that was Carnage at the end of that last trailer we were given.

socool
06-21-2010, 03:40 PM
the last dimension being a symbiote based one is almost...given! look at the clues

-leaked image showed a Spidey in all black
-End of E3 trailer showed a symbiote
-Possessed/zombified S.H.I.E.L.D. agents in E3 trailer
-Beenox mess-up on website with a symbiote Spidey thumbnail instead of 2099.

it's a symbiote.

Nathan
06-21-2010, 03:43 PM
-Beenox mess-up on website with a symbiote Spidey thumbnail instead of 2099.

it's a symbiote.

That's news to me. Did someone take a screenshot?

Spider-ManHero12
06-21-2010, 07:20 PM
But I do agree with you completely that Spidey games get a lot of undeserved flack. Not all of them are as good as the PS1 game or SM2 (imo) but the rest aren't the demon spawn's a lot of people I read on other sites make them out to be. Agreed. :up:

Spidey_62
06-21-2010, 07:21 PM
the last dimension being a symbiote based one is almost...given! look at the clues

-leaked image showed a Spidey in all black
-End of E3 trailer showed a symbiote
-Possessed/zombified S.H.I.E.L.D. agents in E3 trailer
-Beenox mess-up on website with a symbiote Spidey thumbnail instead of 2099.

it's a symbiote.
Those zombified SHIELD agents had red goop on them, as well.

socool
06-21-2010, 07:28 PM
That's news to me. Did someone take a screenshot?
yea um here:

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/AlphaDog/SMSD/symbiote_leak.png

:D thoses heads are supposed to be 2099

ProjectPat2280
06-21-2010, 07:32 PM
edit.

nevermind

LightningFlash
06-21-2010, 09:42 PM
I kind of think it's Ultimate because we haven't seen a Spidey yet in a normal New York setting.

Amazing Spider-Man is fighting some thugs in a construction site, plus not all of Spidey's villains will be located outside of NYC.

Ultimate Spider-Man will not be used.

ProjectPat2280
06-21-2010, 10:46 PM
Amazing Spider-Man is fighting some thugs in a construction site, plus not all of Spidey's villains will be located outside of NYC.

Ultimate Spider-Man will not be used.

Yea its deff not Ultimate. Ultimate, as others have said, would be no different than Amazing.

Mister J
06-22-2010, 05:55 PM
New screenshots (I think/hope)

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/2716/12911storystoryfull7230.jpg (http://img576.imageshack.us/i/12911storystoryfull7230.jpg/)
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/4403/12911storystoryfull7243.jpg (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/12911storystoryfull7243.jpg/)
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4403/12911storystoryfull7243.jpg (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/12911storystoryfull7243.jpg/)

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4403/12911storystoryfull7243.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/i/12911storystoryfull7243.jpg/)
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/4403/12911storystoryfull7243.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/i/12911storystoryfull7243.jpg/)
I remember a move in S-M 2 called the 'Web Hammer'. It was nothing like that first pic. :woot:

venom892
06-22-2010, 08:47 PM
Okay that Web Hammer is a bit too ridiculous.

socool
06-22-2010, 10:18 PM
it looks really bad in pictures, but i barely notice it in motion.

Havok83
06-22-2010, 10:42 PM
Yea its deff not Ultimate. Ultimate, as others have said, would be no different than Amazing.
but what if Ultimate is symbiote based. THat most definetly would offer different gameplay than Amazing

ProjectPat2280
06-22-2010, 11:59 PM
but what if Ultimate is symbiote based. THat most definetly would offer different gameplay than Amazing


You mean, as in the jumping Venom? Or just symbiote Spidey?

I think we are getting one symbiote. Now if that symbiote is from Ultimate, i dont know, but i think enough signs point to the symbiote(leaked gamestop photo, what appears to be carnage at the end of the previous trailer, a deleted mention of Carnage as a character in the game etc etc)

ProjectPat2280
06-23-2010, 12:00 AM
Okay that Web Hammer is a bit too ridiculous.


Yea i hate it. It looks like something that should come from Sandman, albeit made of sand instead of web fluid.

Oscorp
06-23-2010, 04:29 AM
Yea i hate it. It looks like something that should come from Sandman, albeit made of sand instead of web fluid.

I don't have that big of a problem with it. I mean, I think it's pretty clear that the "hammer" isn't made of his web. It's clearly a huge block of stone that he webs up and slings around. I don't see the problem in that :huh:

Shockdingo
06-23-2010, 10:28 AM
Ditto

Nathan
06-23-2010, 11:01 AM
I don't have that big of a problem with it. I mean, I think it's pretty clear that the "hammer" isn't made of his web. It's clearly a huge block of stone that he webs up and slings around. I don't see the problem in that :huh:

And what does he web up when he creates the perfectly shaped, giant mace?

ProjectPat2280
06-23-2010, 11:59 AM
And what does he web up when he creates the perfectly shaped, giant mace?

Well clearly its just a perfectly maced shaped stone that he webs up.

Hush
06-23-2010, 01:15 PM
2099 looks like its going to be the best to play and honestly im only buying the game to play that mode.

socool
06-23-2010, 01:44 PM
And what does he web up when he creates the perfectly shaped, giant mace?

Well clearly its just a perfectly maced shaped stone that he webs up.

the mace is made of web but when he does the "God of War" spinning with his webs, you can see he is just pulling pieces of the ground up and spinning them around.

Havok83
06-23-2010, 02:53 PM
You mean, as in the jumping Venom? Or just symbiote Spidey?

I think we are getting one symbiote. Now if that symbiote is from Ultimate, i dont know, but i think enough signs point to the symbiote(leaked gamestop photo, what appears to be carnage at the end of the previous trailer, a deleted mention of Carnage as a character in the game etc etc)
i meant symiote Spiderman

Ryuuie
06-23-2010, 09:13 PM
I watched both videos and I have a mini review of both!

GAMESPOT E3 VIDEO:
First off, I don't care if Spidey swings from the air, really. Leave something like that for open-world games only. Not level-based.

Second... Spider-Man Noir seems like he knows what he's doing over Amazing Spider-Man. haha It's as if Noir Spider-Man is more about kicking some ass and beating the bad guys, there's no joy in this for him. Whereas, Amazing seems as if he's just in it to have fun while he's kicking ass. I could tell this just by how the two swung in the air.

I like this little change in mood, not just the environment, powerset, and costume but the characters perosnalities seem to change from world to world. Every move Amazing Spider-Man makes just screams "This is FRICKING AWESOME!" while Noir seems to just be "Whatever you did, you're going to pay for it." with everyone he encounters.

I could seriously imagine Wooldoor Sockbat's "WHEEEEEE!!" (Drawn Together) come from Amazing Spider-Man in at LEAST one cutscene time while fighting someone. :P Yes, I DO think it's James Arnold Taylor in Amazing. :) I, for one, like that choice of voice actor.

Holy CRAP 2099's world looks incredibly busy. Things always seem to move and be active on the screen at all times.

I can't get a good feel for Spider-Man 2099's personality, but it's like a sort of refined version of Noir's no nonsense personality with a bit of "... This place is WAY too busy for this...". His fighting style adds to this by being so quick-paced as if to say "Ok, I need to get through this and stop Hobgoblin because this is getting dangerous to everyone else".

The simplistic pause menu reminds me of old school SNES games. I really like how it's just a few choices and that's about it.

Also, the GameSpot guy said "Spider-Man: Web of Shadows". :P If I were Thomas, I would've f***ed with him and said the consoles that SM:WOS (360/PS3/Wii/DS/PSP/PS2/PC) released on instead of SM:SD's consoles (360/PS3/Wii/DS). >)

IGN E3 VIDEO:
It seems like Thomas recycled a lot of his words from GameSpot when he did the IGN interview. :P

Anyway, one line I DEFINITELY caught from Hobgoblin 2099 "Ain't gravity a *****?" when Spider-Man 2099 got hit by a piece of debris. I had to go back and play the video again to see if I heard it right.

I have played pretty much EVERY Spider-Man game to date (including the first Atari one via an emulator). I have NEVER heard a line like that in any game (or maybe I just never paid attention). Since they said Dan was the one writing those lines, I'm definitely glad to see him on board with this game. Reading the Spider-Man comics, a line that has that word in it would be said in the comics (at least the modern ones).

Hell, Spider-Man himself called Bullseye a douchebag (though, he minced the words up a bit like oyu would if you said "sofa king..." you know the rest). I'm liking how this game feels a bit edgier than the last ones.

socool
06-23-2010, 09:46 PM
haha! no way "Aint gravity a *****?" That's awesome. I was afraid this game would be too kidish.

Sebastos
06-23-2010, 09:50 PM
Noir and 2099 look awesome.

LightningFlash
06-23-2010, 10:36 PM
I'm still not a fan of Amazing Spidey's web-based weapons. It'll be fine for Spidey to just web someone up or shoot web balls, but a mace and hammer...doesn't make me interested.

At least we have 2099 and Noir though. And hopefully the fourth universe looks semi-enjoyable.

Oscorp
06-24-2010, 03:52 AM
sorry, double post

Oscorp
06-24-2010, 03:52 AM
And what does he web up when he creates the perfectly shaped, giant mace?

Well clearly its just a perfectly maced shaped stone that he webs up.

The mace is ridiculous, yes. But the big blocks aren't, in my opinion. You complained about the blocks.

ProjectPat2280
06-24-2010, 10:47 AM
The mace is ridiculous, yes. But the big blocks aren't, in my opinion. You complained about the blocks.


They are the same thing. They're both ridiculous. Thats what we are saying. Be it a giant hammer or a giant mace, it just looks dumb. But oh well, they're in the game and hopefully we wont be forced to use those moves and can still progress through the game just fine.

Spider-ManHero12
06-24-2010, 11:08 AM
2099 looks like its going to be the best to play and honestly im only buying the game to play that mode. I'm buying the game because i'm so excited to play ever universe, obivously, but I do think 2099 is going to be the most fun.


Also, I see that they posted Black suit spidey picutre instead of 2099. Lol.

Nathan
06-24-2010, 11:16 AM
Yeah, it's pretty much official now, with all the leaks and screw ups. The last universe is definitely Symbiote Spidey.

socool
06-24-2010, 11:57 AM
for those of you complaining about the web-based combat. i don't think you should have a problem. from what i can tell by the controls, it seems these are the face buttons:

A/X-Jump
X/Square-Attack
B/Circle-Grab/Web/Climb
Y/Triangle-Dimension specific move.

Dimension specific move would be web-based combat in Amazing, stealth take down in Noir and the speed attacks in 2099. so you could play all of amazing without ever pressing Y/Triangle and beat that universe because you still have other means of attacks (punch, kick, web, web strike, grab, ect.)

Syncos
06-24-2010, 12:20 PM
I kinda wish that the Symbiote suit was an alternate costume for each reality. Like cosmic.

LightningFlash
06-24-2010, 02:05 PM
Symbiote Spidey...

great.

Well at least there's Noir and 2099, lol.

Will it be pure symbiote, like Poison, or Spider-Carnage?

Ryuuie
06-24-2010, 03:58 PM
Let's hope Dan can make it a decent Symbiote Spider-Man...

I just finished playing a bit of WOS and... I don't hate it as much as I used to but it's still a mediocre game. You just don't feel like Spider-Man..at all.

Honestly, I felt like a guy swinging around on a rope in a Spider-Man outfit with exaggerated movements. The Symbiote Suit was worse since it was the Spider-knockoff...with oil all over him. I didn't feel the same personality change between the two like you distinctly can with Amazing vs Noir or Amazing vs 2099 in SM:SD.

If Symbiote Spider-Man is supposed to be broody and angry, then it's just not there. At all. Not even in the cutscenes.

Havok83
06-24-2010, 06:40 PM
Are people surprised about the symbiote? That one was pretty much a given once the game was announced

DACMAN
06-24-2010, 09:10 PM
If you guys actually watched the videos you'd see that he does make that hammer out of nothing but webs. It looks stupid.

LightningFlash
06-24-2010, 10:00 PM
Are people surprised about the symbiote? That one was pretty much a given once the game was announced

Well a lot of people, including myself, had hoped that they would do something different than a Symbiote Spider-Man universe as the symbiote had played a huge part in the last three Spider-Man games, let alone was one of the key factors that ruined the last Spider-Man movie. So, yah, you should understand why some of us do not want another Symbiote Spidey.

Poison, I wouldn't care for(I did at one moment with mostly thinking it MIGHT have a different gameplay, but then had the thought of Zombie Spider-Man, which made me want that way more than Poison), BUT Spider-Carnage could be very interesting. Now, when it comes to gameplay, both could end up being/looking the same as Amazing Spider-Man's, but then it could play out as WoS did(same attitude and what not, but Symbiote Spidey used more tentacles than webs), so it's all really a 50/50 chance.

I am fine with Amazing, Noir and 2099, just because it fits the Present, Past, and Future premise, but I would have enjoyed it much more if we had the fourth universe be Zombie Spider-Man. But, next time I suppose.

Havok83
06-24-2010, 11:05 PM
Well a lot of people, including myself, had hoped that they would do something different than a Symbiote Spider-Man universe as the symbiote had played a huge part in the last three Spider-Man games, let alone was one of the key factors that ruined the last Spider-Man movie. So, yah, you should understand why some of us do not want another Symbiote Spidey.




I can understand why some may not want it but the symbiote is one of the most well known aspects of Spidey's history. Its very popular and has played an integral role. From a developing standpoint, it offers a different gameplay experience from regular Spiderman which is easy to implement and they have experience with. Hearing that there would be 4 worlds with 4 different types of gameplay, symbiote seemed like a shoe in. That was pretty obvious and it would have been more shocking had they left it out of the game

BlackLantern
06-26-2010, 12:36 AM
Well a lot of people, including myself, had hoped that they would do something different than a Symbiote Spider-Man universe as the symbiote had played a huge part in the last three Spider-Man games, let alone was one of the key factors that ruined the last Spider-Man movie. So, yah, you should understand why some of us do not want another Symbiote Spidey.

Poison, I wouldn't care for(I did at one moment with mostly thinking it MIGHT have a different gameplay, but then had the thought of Zombie Spider-Man, which made me want that way more than Poison), BUT Spider-Carnage could be very interesting. Now, when it comes to gameplay, both could end up being/looking the same as Amazing Spider-Man's, but then it could play out as WoS did(same attitude and what not, but Symbiote Spidey used more tentacles than webs), so it's all really a 50/50 chance.

I am fine with Amazing, Noir and 2099, just because it fits the Present, Past, and Future premise, but I would have enjoyed it much more if we had the fourth universe be Zombie Spider-Man. But, next time I suppose.

are you ****ing serious?? really?? are you that hard up for gore and comics you want to see Spidey chomping on people?? really??

Havok83
06-26-2010, 04:23 AM
are you ****ing serious?? really?? are you that hard up for gore and comics you want to see Spidey chomping on people?? really??
too sadistic? LOL

http://www.artpusher.net/Comic/spiderman-zombie.jpg

zenith16
06-26-2010, 06:15 AM
are you ****ing serious?? really?? are you that hard up for gore and comics you want to see Spidey chomping on people?? really?? lol I think you misunderstand what LF was getting at. And the fact and I did mention this in this thread prior to some one else here. That the Spider man of that world reverted back to his normal super human spider man self due to his recuperative/ regeneration abilities. He was basically the only hero who did of that mess of a world due to that.


Any way it's would funny to see each of the three other spideys before him each slapping this spider around saying stop snaking on 2099 spidey. hey how many "f" ing times do I have to tell you not to munch on innocents. Stop trying to eat one of my X-Men buddy's, they just got here to give me Intel. God damn do i need a leach for you? Now stay here and try not to eat anyone just cause their moving.

BlackLantern
06-26-2010, 07:07 AM
I just hate the Marvel Zombies series

0neDisturbedSOB
06-26-2010, 10:54 AM
Have they revealed the 4th dimension for the game? I'm actually hoping for the Manga Spider-Man they released a few years back with him being a kid training with ninjas. I think it would look great cel shaded, and there's a lot of interesting things to explore story/combat wise.

BlackLantern
06-26-2010, 11:01 AM
that was another stupid idea that should have been aborted before seeing the light of day...I think it's leaked that its Symbiote Spider-Man which is meh-tacular

0neDisturbedSOB
06-26-2010, 12:07 PM
I don't see how that's stupid at all. It's never been done, and it's A LOT more creative than "symbiote Spider-Man" which has been done to death. If they really want to push the Spider-Man game and attempt something different, do just that. I'm tired of the same old crap with these games. I enjoyed Ultimate Spider-Man because it was somewhat different. Even "friend or foe" was a different take on the character.

I vote Manga Spider-Man. None of this Zombie crap.

The Hill
06-26-2010, 03:02 PM
I wouild have loved to seen the 1602 version of Spidey, shame it's too new.

Nathan
06-26-2010, 03:15 PM
Isn't Noir more recent?

The Hill
06-26-2010, 03:24 PM
Peter in 1602 costume with powers is more recent, I believe. Could be wrong.

Havok83
06-26-2010, 03:27 PM
Isn't Noir more recent?
He is. He made his debut last year (well technically at the very end of 2008). The 1602 version, I believe was in 2005

BlackLantern
06-26-2010, 03:37 PM
yea...Noir is the newer "idea"

LightningFlash
06-26-2010, 05:04 PM
are you ****ing serious?? really?? are you that hard up for gore and comics you want to see Spidey chomping on people?? really??

Yes, I get a boner everytime I think of zombies, especially zombie superheroes.

:whatever:

No, the reason I would prefer Zombie Spider-Man is because it would fit with the "alternate" besides the already Past, Present, and Future aspect of the game. A fourth would need to be an "alternate" of something that Spider-Man isn't meant to be.

But I suppose if the fourth is of Poison then it would fill that "alternate" void with the sense of the "What if?" aspect.

But, anyways, I'm excited for 2099 and Noir, and right now, if the symbiote is the fourth, that'll be the last levels I complete(2099, Noir, Amazing, then symbiote).

Saint
06-26-2010, 06:57 PM
Frankly, I think the wrong approach has been taken with this game. The developers need to stop worrying about gimmicks like alternate dimensions and start worrying about translating the core Spider-Man experience into a quality gameplay mechanic. Take the Arkham Asylum approach: the first priority needs to be to produce a solid simulator for the character. Sadly, Activision is probably too dedicated to putting out these games as often as possible for an Arkham-quality Spider-Man game to be made any time soon.

BlackLantern
06-26-2010, 07:37 PM
I like this approach...Spider-Man is a varied character and its cool to see the different interpretations....especially 2099, a lot of younger fans today have no knowledge of that line

venom892
06-26-2010, 07:59 PM
I think the game has major potential,It's just up to Activision to tap it.They've shown in the past they don't care about putting out a quality product but just want something to cash in on Spider-man's name brand.

BlackLantern
06-26-2010, 08:02 PM
it's not a crime to be greedy....so lets not let the thread turn into an "activision is the devil" session

Saint
06-26-2010, 08:31 PM
it's not a crime to be greedy....so lets not let the thread turn into an "activision is the devil" session

The issue isn't that they want money, the issue is that they let that interfere with the quality of the product. You don't get a more legitimate complaint than that. They can be as greedy as they want, unless the games they put out suck. Since their Spider-Man games, generally speaking, do suck, then clearly there's a problem that needs to be addressed here.

Saint
06-26-2010, 08:34 PM
I like this approach...Spider-Man is a varied character and its cool to see the different interpretations....especially 2099, a lot of younger fans today have no knowledge of that line

Variety may well be a fine approach to take, after they've successfully developed a gameplay mechanic for the core Spider-Man experience.

BlackLantern
06-26-2010, 08:35 PM
but they aren't the only one to produce ****** Spider-Man games, look at almost every licensed super hero game...they all suck to a degree and only recently have become good or exceptional

that Superman game for XBox was **** on toast, and it was an Xbox exclusive that had DC guys working on it...and I couldn't even tell you who made that

Saint
06-26-2010, 08:41 PM
but they aren't the only one to produce ****** Spider-Man games, look at almost every licensed super hero game...they all suck to a degree and only recently have become good or exceptional

that Superman game for XBox was **** on toast, and it was an Xbox exclusive that had DC guys working on it...and I couldn't even tell you who made that

So what? That other companies have also failed to produce quality superhero games doesn't make the problem with Activision any less significant. They need to modify their approach to these games, as do many publishers and developers.

Havok83
06-26-2010, 09:57 PM
Does anyone know how this game will be structured? Will you rotate between the 4 different worlds/characters throughout the game? Can you choose who you want to play as in any order? Are they of equal length or is more devoted to Amazing?

BlackLantern
06-26-2010, 09:59 PM
I believe you can play them in any order once you hit a specific point

Dark_Lord
06-27-2010, 12:21 AM
Does anyone know how this game will be structured? Will you rotate between the 4 different worlds/characters throughout the game? Can you choose who you want to play as in any order? Are they of equal length or is more devoted to Amazing?

The game has 3 acts and each act has 1 mission from each dimension. Unless I'm mistaken, you can do the missions in any order you like during each act, but you have to finish each act before moving to the second mission of a dimension.

jacobed
06-27-2010, 05:52 AM
So Spider-Man somehow split this tablet thing up into 4 different dimensions, So which one of them is like the actual Spider-Man, the one that started the whole mess or is there a 5th Spidey

Ryuuie
06-27-2010, 06:20 AM
So Spider-Man somehow split this tablet thing up into 4 different dimensions, So which one of them is like the actual Spider-Man, the one that started the whole mess or is there a 5th Spidey

Probably Amazing's fault. Everything is Amazing's fault. :P He's just that unlucky. Poor guy.

Dark_Lord: Yea, you're right.

socool
06-27-2010, 12:12 PM
Amazing Spidey is 616 Spidey. The original in other words. The tablet breaks while he is fighting a..."bad dude" as Beenox likes to call it... :whatever:

Ryuuie
06-27-2010, 12:52 PM
Amazing Spidey is 616 Spidey. The original in other words. The tablet breaks while he is fighting a..."bad dude" as Beenox likes to call it... :whatever:

Didn't one guy from Beenox say it was Spider-Man's fault it broke in the first place? lol

BlackLantern
06-27-2010, 01:00 PM
the 4th Spidey should be Super Hero Squad Spidey

Spider-Vader
06-27-2010, 01:31 PM
But he hasn't been on the show yet! :oldrazz:

BlackLantern
06-27-2010, 01:51 PM
I think he appears in the video game though

0neDisturbedSOB
06-27-2010, 02:02 PM
I'm still hoping for Manga Spider-Man. Gives us something different in a Spider-Man game.

BlackLantern
06-27-2010, 02:04 PM
different, yes....Manga Spider-Man was stupid...and there is a difference between a different idea and a stupid idea...Manga Spider-Man is the latter

0neDisturbedSOB
06-27-2010, 02:10 PM
Eh, now you're just repeating yourself. It's a lot more original than SHS Spider-Man which would basically be Amazing/Spectacular with a different look. Manga Spider-Man had an entirely different moveset, and the story is interesting. Symbiote Spider-Man is lame. Movie Spider-Man has been done to death. Noir, and 2099 are great additions. Keep the trend going with something original and that's never been done before.

LightningFlash
06-27-2010, 03:07 PM
different, yes....Manga Spider-Man was stupid...and there is a difference between a different idea and a stupid idea...Manga Spider-Man is the latter

And SHS Spider-Man isn't a stupid idea?

Ryuuie
06-27-2010, 03:13 PM
SHS Spider-Man never appeared in the show due to Spectacular Spider-Man and since we're getting an Ultimate Spider-Man 'toon, he'll probably never appear.

However, he appeared in the game.

0neDisturbedSOB
06-27-2010, 03:24 PM
I could see them doing the Scarlet Spider as the 4th dimension, but I don't see how it would differ from Spectacular/Amazing's dimension.

dtud
06-27-2010, 03:25 PM
The game has 3 acts and each act has 1 mission from each dimension. Unless I'm mistaken, you can do the missions in any order you like during each act, but you have to finish each act before moving to the second mission of a dimension.

I know that Beenox said that there are twelve missions, but I hope that there is a prelude mission so that we can learn the controls and get introduced to the game.

Lets say the main bad guy breaks in to a museum to steal the tablet, then it should be a short mission where you try stop it and fight him at the end. (Obviously the the tablet breaks and ****s hit the fan.)

BlackLantern
06-27-2010, 03:26 PM
And SHS Spider-Man isn't a stupid idea?

No...not at all...SHS has proven to be a rather successful line for Marvel

MOVIELORD101
06-27-2010, 04:24 PM
No...not at all...SHS has proven to be a rather successful line for Marvel

And yet the cartoon is a retarded piece of ****. That should tell you something!:cmad:

BlackLantern
06-27-2010, 04:25 PM
I happen to like the cartoon....people forget that its directed at a very very young audience

Thor and Cap are awesome in that cartoon

MOVIELORD101
06-27-2010, 04:53 PM
I happen to like the cartoon....people forget that its directed at a very very young audience

Thor and Cap are awesome in that cartoon

I know, but they got the characters wrong, ESPECIALLY the Hulk and all the villains!

Ryuuie
06-27-2010, 06:02 PM
I know, but they got the characters wrong, ESPECIALLY the Hulk and all the villains!

They're not wrong, SHS isn't in the 616 universe. It has a base in 616, but it's not 616.

Hulk can be bright blue and glowing with radiation and they still wouldn't be "wrong".

They're 100% correct for the universe that they exist in.

Spidey_62
06-27-2010, 06:11 PM
Josh Keaton even voiced Spidey in the SHS game.

MOVIELORD101
06-27-2010, 06:31 PM
They're not wrong, SHS isn't in the 616 universe. It has a base in 616, but it's not 616.

Hulk can be bright blue and glowing with radiation and they still wouldn't be "wrong".

They're 100% correct for the universe that they exist in.

I........screw it.:facepalm:

BlackLantern
06-27-2010, 06:41 PM
I do hope the game is better than WoS...which I thought was a good concept, but it does get repetitive after the first hour or so and the mission structure is a bit weird

LightningFlash
06-27-2010, 07:28 PM
No...not at all...SHS has proven to be a rather successful line for Marvel

Okay....but how would it be any different than Amazing Spider-Man?

It wouldn't.

At least my idea of Zombie Spider-Man would make sense and have a different gameplay.

I happen to like the cartoon....people forget that its directed at a very very young audience

Lol.

You shouldn't say those two things in the same sentence.

:hehe:

BlackLantern
06-27-2010, 08:10 PM
I have no problem with saying I like it..and yes its for little kids....I have an 8 and a 6 yr old nephew who love it to death and we can all watch it together...both me and their dad agree that they are bit too young for Batman :TAS or Justice League right now, but they like their superheroes so SHS and Brave and the Bold is what they are watching

MOVIELORD101
06-27-2010, 08:15 PM
I have no problem with saying I like it..and yes its for little kids....I have an 8 and a 6 yr old nephew who love it to death and we can all watch it together...both me and their dad agree that they are bit too young for Batman :TAS or Justice League right now, but they like their superheroes so SHS and Brave and the Bold is what they are watching

At least BATB is accurate in portraying it's heroes' personalities, damnit!

BlackLantern
06-27-2010, 08:20 PM
it doesn't need to be comic book accurate....its a very self contained universe Marvel specifically created for that line, it has Super Hero City and Villainville....I like that, its cute....

how is BATB any more accurate??...it has a silver age Batman and Green Arrow, a modern age Blue Beetle and Atom (Jaime and Dr. Choi), Silver Age GLs and Aquaman

BlackLantern
06-27-2010, 08:21 PM
to get back on topic.....I look forward to the game, but like most Spidey games Ill probably wait a bit to buy it....I grabbed both SM3 and WoS right at release and got burned for it

MOVIELORD101
06-27-2010, 08:36 PM
it doesn't need to be comic book accurate....its a very self contained universe Marvel specifically created for that line, it has Super Hero City and Villainville....I like that, its cute....

how is BATB any more accurate??...it has a silver age Batman and Green Arrow, a modern age Blue Beetle and Atom (Jaime and Dr. Choi), Silver Age GLs and Aquaman

Geeks........:whatever:

Tron Bonne
06-27-2010, 08:46 PM
Lol, geek-filled or not, BL is right. BATB really isn't all that accurate to the heroes. In some cases, maybe, but in just as many cases they are pretty off or fairly distorted from their comics counterparts from the episodes I've seen (the best example that comes to mind right off is Aquaman).

MOVIELORD101
06-27-2010, 08:58 PM
Lol, geek-filled or not, BL is right. BATB really isn't all that accurate to the heroes. In some cases, maybe, but in just as many cases they are pretty off or fairly distorted from their comics counterparts from the episodes I've seen (the best example that comes to mind right off is Aquaman).

Oh yeah, that's right! He always acted so full of himself on BATB.

zenith16
06-27-2010, 09:18 PM
I think with that show it's kind a satyr exaggerated view of how batman and some heroes view Aquaman, and how batman views most of the other heroes around him as whole. if you do remember how JL and JLU John Stewart saw Aquaman as full of him self before Aquaman wife set him strait. but I guessing since Aquaman was acting like a high and mighty ruler in that show he'd come off like that to certain people. . and maybe batman never said it but it's possible in some level he veiws him like this. maybe.

It's just done in jest, but their saying he views how some of the other heroes he hangs out with. Take for Example "green arrow" in some of the ways they act as silly. look at his and green arrow 's competetions. who always starts them. and don't for get the green arrow mobile. it was said by one of the comic writers that when they first met batman said that green arrow ripped off some of his idea's that was one of them next to the green ripping of the batcave with his own spin on it. and he asked olli if he ever had an orginal idea of his own on things like that.

BlackLantern
06-27-2010, 09:20 PM
back to Spider-Man....hope the game does well and its cool that Kraven is one of the big villains

Ryuuie
06-27-2010, 09:55 PM
* The game will feature many well-known voices as bosses and other various NPCs.

* Sometimes you will leave New York to go different places to chase your main boss, such as Amazing Spider-Man going to a jungle to face Kraven.

* The Web of Destiny is a new challenge system that “encourages replay value and challenges gamers to “approach levels in different ways and unlock new abilities, movies, concept art, behind-the-scenes featurettes, and alternate suits”.

* Each dimension will have their own cameos.

* Spider Emblems will be collectable throughout the game.

* Completing challenges in the game such as defeating bosses will unlock “Spider-Essence”.

Went to the megathread and grabbed that. :P Can use something from this to talk about, I suppose.

Oh, by the way, looks like the Wii and DS will NOT get Cosmic Spider-Man and it is 360 and PS3 exclusive. GameStop doesn't have it up as a pre-order bonus for those platforms. I SWEAR they had it up before (and even the official SM:SD site lists both Wii and DS as having the exclusive).

Guess it's a mistake on GS's part. I tweeted News Lad on Twitter about it, he's still checking into it.

BizarroAids
06-28-2010, 12:57 AM
Are the Spider Emblems similar to the ones in WOS?? Or do you get rewards for it?

Ryuuie
06-28-2010, 01:00 AM
Are the Spider Emblems similar to the ones in WOS?? Or do you get rewards for it?

Sounds like they'll be used to unlock things.

I don't know what "Spider-Essence" is but it sounds like XP. We may be able to customize our Spideys like in WOS.

Spider-ManHero12
06-28-2010, 11:04 AM
Josh Keaton even voiced Spidey in the SHS game. Very true. :up:

Spidey_62
06-30-2010, 02:04 PM
New pic of Spidey 2099 in the Cosmic suit from Gamestop.

http://www.gamestop.com/gs/images/bonus/Cosmic-Spide_2099LG.jpg

The Guardian
06-30-2010, 05:37 PM
New pic of Spidey 2099 in the Cosmic suit from Gamestop.

http://www.gamestop.com/gs/images/bonus/Cosmic-Spide_2099LG.jpg

:awesome::up:

Nathan
06-30-2010, 08:16 PM
Meh...

LightningFlash
06-30-2010, 10:38 PM
His mouth reminds me of a venus flytrap.

BlackLantern
07-01-2010, 07:38 AM
I was hoping for Spider-Ham

socool
07-01-2010, 01:38 PM
oh god this looks stupid!!!
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/2011/stupidp.jpg

Oscorp
07-01-2010, 01:59 PM
Ok now that's stupid! Wtf!? :S

venom892
07-01-2010, 02:16 PM
Jesus Christ they couldn't come up with a better way to distinguish amazing?

BlackLantern
07-01-2010, 02:32 PM
that looks fun....do we not like fun here?? is this not a comic book character or must all comic book characters now be very serious and realistic??

Compi716
07-01-2010, 03:45 PM
Am I one of the only people here who think all the web hammers and fists look cool as hell? I mean, come on! It's a giant fist made of webbing! That's all kinds of awesome!

socool
07-01-2010, 03:46 PM
i was fine with it when it was just hammers and stuff. the fist looks useless. he has fists, why would he need to make one out of web? i dont get that

SpideyForPrez
07-01-2010, 04:04 PM
Do the web hammers and fists look cool? No. Do they look like fun? Yes. Hell Yes!

We're talking about a video game here. It's fine that Spidey does even crazier stuff than in the comics/cartoons... so long as it actually makes for good gameplay, that remains to be seen. I would hate it if he started doing stuff like that in the comics or in a cartoon regularly, but this is just a video game. No biggie. Save your complaints for poor villain choices/designs.

Drz
07-01-2010, 04:12 PM
I love the fact he's having these Absurd weapons at his proposal. It makes the game feel FUN!

Ryuuie
07-01-2010, 04:45 PM
Do the web hammers and fists look cool? No. Do they look like fun? Yes. Hell Yes!

We're talking about a video game here. It's fine that Spidey does even crazier stuff than in the comics/cartoons... so long as it actually makes for good gameplay, that remains to be seen. I would hate it if he started doing stuff like that in the comics or in a cartoon regularly, but this is just a video game. No biggie. Save your complaints for poor villain choices/designs.

He DID do stuff like this regularly back in the 60s Spider-Man comics and in the old Spider-Man cartoons (like Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends and the 1967 cartoon). Amazing Spider-Man in Shattered Dimension is based off of this Spider-Man.

It's still 616, but it's TECHNICALLY in the past... so, if you want to do the "past, present, future" thing, it'd be:

1930 - Spider-Man Noir - Past
1960 - Amazing Spider-Man - Present-ish
2099 - Spider-Man 2099 - Future

They never said it was based on 2010 Spider-Man or anything, so really, the web-hammers and whatnot are accurate if you want to base him in the 1960s era.

They're most likely trying to stray from the things like BND and whatnot and pull in some older Spider-Man fans who like more than just TAS, SSM, the movies, and current comics.

I just don't want the web weapons to be as gimmicky as Web Strike was in WoS. Seriously, that SINGLE MOVE will win you the entire game once you finish that short tutorial...

SpideyForPrez
07-01-2010, 05:09 PM
Oh I know he did stuff like that in the old cartoons. I always liked that part out of the 60's toon where a little net of web catches a whole speeding car.

I was just trying to say that complaining about the web moves is a waste of time. 1. Because it's not the first time he's done crazy web moves. And 2. Because it'll probably make for fun gameplay.

I kind of liked the web strike in WOS at first, it did make the fights too easy and most of the boss fights revolved around the move, but it was fun at first. From one of the previews it looks they modified the web strike for this game so villains can counter it. One clip shows Circus Goblin in Noir catching Spidey as he comes in and slams him down.

Ryuuie
07-01-2010, 05:24 PM
Oh I know he did stuff like that in the old cartoons. I always liked that part out of the 60's toon where a little net of web catches a whole speeding car.

I was just trying to say that complaining about the web moves is a waste of time. 1. Because it's not the first time he's done crazy web moves. And 2. Because it'll probably make for fun gameplay.

I kind of liked the web strike in WOS at first, it did make the fights too easy and most of the boss fights revolved around the move, but it was fun at first. From one of the previews it looks they modified the web strike for this game so villains can counter it. One clip shows Circus Goblin in Noir catching Spidey as he comes in and slams him down.

Didn't Venom do that in WoS?

SpideyForPrez
07-01-2010, 05:32 PM
Hmm, if I remember correctly I think he just batted you away in a very lazy motion. And sometimes it just didn't do anything, you'd collide and the enemy would just take it without effect. But I'm not 100% on that, WOS didn't make the biggest impression on my memory. I remember playing the PS1 game more vividly.

BlackLantern
07-01-2010, 05:39 PM
in various books and cartoons....Ive seen Spidey make web parachutes, web shields, web slingshots....so web fists and web hammers aren't a far leap from that