Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions

[socool]

i wouldn't say it's bad but it's not very good. the camera is sooooo bad.

[DACMAN]

The combat is slow and simple, the web slinging sucks, the story is beyond stupid, and the voice acting is all over the top. Not to mention they just randomly threw characters into the game for no reason. Remember when the Punisher shows up out of no-where and tries to snipe Spider-Man? Then goes on to try and team up with him in a cut scene right after trying to blow his head off. I can understand liking it back when we were kids, but why now?

[socool]

The combat is slow, the web slinging sucks, the story is beyond stupid, and the voice acting is all over the top. I can understand liking it back when we were kids, but why now? I mean, watch this...

combat i half agree with, the web-slinging was unavoidable so that's a ridiculous point, the story was ok (nothing bad, nothing good) and the voice-acting is great, what are you smoking?

I think you are being too hard on this game.

[Ryuuie]

And Arkham Asylum has nostalgia as much as it has great gameplay.

Sure, Super-Joker is undoubtedly lame, but the game itself was good, as Monster Ock was undoubtedly lame, the game as a whole was amazing. Sure, the graphics suck now ten years later, and it was a quick game, but it has more than nostalgic factors, imo. It was a game that felt like the 90s series, it was one of the first superhero games that was worth the money to buy. And it was one in a few games that was amazing for N64.

And...I don't see how TSSM has beat TAS. TSSM didn't run for five seasons, so it's very hard to compare.

I would have like a lengthy post, but everyone else already said what I was going to say. XD

Pretty much what they all said though, TSSM is a lot better than TAS because of better animation, better storylines, no repeated animation over and over, Spidey's voice just...fit.., did I mention Greg Weisman and his great care for the Spider-Man mythos?

The 2000 game just did not age well. Yes, it reminds us of TAS, but once those nostalgia glasses are gone, it's just not a good game. Plus, TAS wasn't THAT good so I don't know if I want to be reminded of it as I play my really short game. =/

[Ipodman]

The graphics in this game looks very odd to me.

There are 4 types of "worlds" for each "dimension" right...?

Not one of them looks good honestly

[LightningFlash]

Do you even know what nostalgia is?

You should definitely read my earlier posts.

[LightningFlash]

I would have like a lengthy post, but everyone else already said what I was going to say. XD

Pretty much what they all said though, TSSM is a lot better than TAS because of better animation, better storylines, no repeated animation over and over, Spidey's voice just...fit.., did I mention Greg Weisman and his great care for the Spider-Man mythos?

The 2000 game just did not age well. Yes, it reminds us of TAS, but once those nostalgia glasses are gone, it's just not a good game. Plus, TAS wasn't THAT good so I don't know if I want to be reminded of it as I play my really short game. =/

I replyed to everyone, so read them for my responses to your statements, lol.

[Ryuuie]

I replyed to everyone, so read them for my responses to your statements, lol.

I know I read them and I don't agree with them. lol

[socool]

The graphics in this game looks very odd to me.

There are 4 types of "worlds" for each "dimension" right...?

Not one of them looks good honestly

really? i think Noir and Ultimate look pretty good. 2099 would be the best but the vines in the scorpion level are ugly. amazing is nice, nothing special though. i wouldn't say they're ugly though.

[Ryuuie]

really? i think Noir and Ultimate look pretty good. 2099 would be the best but the vines in the scorpion level are ugly. amazing is nice, nothing special though. i wouldn't say they're ugly though.

But...you just said the vines are ugly. lol

I think they did more work on Noir, Ultimate, and 2099. I hope not...

I do remember Thomas Wilson saying that all dimensions were worked on by different teams or something within Beenox.

[socool]

i meant they aren't ugly as a whole. i do want someone to point out the specific points that look bad. i looked at some high quality, large images and the graphics (aside for the vines in 2099) look good.

[DACMAN]

Spider-Man 2099 is one of my favorite comic characters of all time. But I'm really starting to think this game won't be all that good. I hope I'm wrong.

[socool]

Spider-Man 2099 is one of my favorite comic characters of all time. But I'm really starting to think this game won't be all that good. I hope I'm wrong.

really? why? it looks better than recent games. at least IMO

[ProjectPat2280]

Spider-Man 2099 is one of my favorite comic characters of all time. But I'm really starting to think this game won't be all that good. I hope I'm wrong.

Haha, wow, if you of all ppl dont think the game looks good then we are doomed to yet another mediocre Spider-Man title.

[Ipodman]

Im still interested in what the story is really like

[DACMAN]

really? why? it looks better than recent games. at least IMO

No free-roam, the swing mech. looks slow and clunky, too many different gameplay styles and not enough focus and polish on just one, the story sounds very uninspired and cookie cutter. And it seems like everyone else is turning a blind eye to the fact Spider-Man in the amazing universe can use his webshooters like Green Lanturn's ring. Even in the cartoon show in the 60's he made like bats and stuff, not giant fists and maces.

The game looks like a button masher and that's it. At least with the other games we also got an entire city to free-roam in while we button mash. I still think Spider-Man 3 was the best Spidey game ever. It had the most variety in gameplay, best story, and I loved the button pressing cinema things.

I mean, out of all the Spider-Man games we've gotten I can't believe only Spider-Man 3 has used the fact Peter Parker is a photographer as part of the gameplay. And Spider-Man 2's "press X here" gameplay doesn't count.

[DACMAN]

Im still interested in what the story is really like

All you need to know is Dan Slott wrote it. He sucks. The end.

[Syncos]

And it seems like everyone else is turning a blind eye to the fact Spider-Man in the amazing universe can use his webshooters like Green Lanturn's ring. Even in the cartoon show in the 60's he made like bats and stuff, not giant fists and maces.

First of all, are you kidding me? there was like 20 pages of posts in this thread complaining about that. Secondly. It's not, like Green Lantern's ring. Just because he can make a shaped projectile doesn't mean it's the same thing. Green Lantern can create a hand, in which once he punches you with, he can move the fingers and flip you off, if he likes. He has total control. I'm sure that's not what this is like at all. You're over exaggerating.

The game looks like a button masher and that's it. At least with the other games we also got an entire city to free-roam in while we button mash. I still think Spider-Man 3 was the best Spidey game ever. It had the most variety in gameplay, best story, and I loved the button pressing cinema things.

I mean, out of all the Spider-Man games we've gotten I can't believe only Spider-Man 3 has used the fact Peter Parker is a photographer as part of the gameplay. And Spider-Man 2's "press X here" gameplay doesn't count.

Spider-Man 2 will always be the best Spiderman game. First to introduce free roam NYC, and didn't have the brutal unfinished buggyness of the 3rd.

I love how in the same post, you complain about having multiple gameplay styles, and then complain that every other game hasn't had enough variance in their gameplay. You've got 4 separate teams developing 4 different playing styles. I'm sure they'd have the same amount of polish in each world as they would have if it was one universe, as they would have had the same amount of time to work on it.

[socool]

No free-roam, the swing mech. looks slow and clunky, too many different gameplay styles and not enough focus and polish on just one, the story sounds very uninspired and cookie cutter. And it seems like everyone else is turning a blind eye to the fact Spider-Man in the amazing universe can use his webshooters like Green Lanturn's ring. Even in the cartoon show in the 60's he made like bats and stuff, not giant fists and maces.

The game looks like a button masher and that's it. At least with the other games we also got an entire city to free-roam in while we button mash. I still think Spider-Man 3 was the best Spidey game ever. It had the most variety in gameplay, best story, and I loved the button pressing cinema things.

I mean, out of all the Spider-Man games we've gotten I can't believe only Spider-Man 3 has used the fact Peter Parker is a photographer as part of the gameplay. And Spider-Man 2's "press X here" gameplay doesn't count.

no free roam doesn't make a game suck, the swing mechanic apparently is a little sluggish, the game styles were all created at the same time by different studios, (so yes they do have enough polish) the story is barely revealed, we had a huge argument over spider-man's web attacks, according to hands on interviews only ultimate is a button-masher.

you are seriously critical on games. i think you choose certain games to hate and certain games to like. like spider-man 3. spider-man 3 had no story (none that i found), the slowest swinging ever and the worst camera. where is the "best spider-man game" part?

btw, dan slott doesn't suck at all. try reading some comics.

[The Incredible Hulk]

are there plans to release a demo on XBL?

[Ryuuie]

Thanks completely to mrk1976 on HeroHQ...we have this:

http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/VideoGameImages/SMSD/WiiandDS/NewImages/NP257SMSD.jpg

http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/VideoGameImages/SMSD/WiiandDS/NewImages/NP257SMSD2.jpg

Wii and Nintendo DS screens from the recent Nintendo Power.

Also, there is no talk of a demo right now.

[socool]

Noir in the Wii version is freakin ugly!!!

[ProjectPat2280]

are there plans to release a demo on XBL?

Doubt it. At least not before release. Activision rarely releases pre release demos.

Noir in the Wii version is freakin ugly!!!

Everything on the Wii is ugly.

[ProjectPat2280]

No free-roam, the swing mech. looks slow and clunky, too many different gameplay styles and not enough focus and polish on just one, the story sounds very uninspired and cookie cutter. And it seems like everyone else is turning a blind eye to the fact Spider-Man in the amazing universe can use his webshooters like Green Lanturn's ring. Even in the cartoon show in the 60's he made like bats and stuff, not giant fists and maces.

The game looks like a button masher and that's it. At least with the other games we also got an entire city to free-roam in while we button mash. I still think Spider-Man 3 was the best Spidey game ever. It had the most variety in gameplay, best story, and I loved the button pressing cinema things.

I mean, out of all the Spider-Man games we've gotten I can't believe only Spider-Man 3 has used the fact Peter Parker is a photographer as part of the gameplay. And Spider-Man 2's "press X here" gameplay doesn't count.


Ouch, thats sad when someone says Spider-Man 3 is the best Spidey title we've got. Spider-Man 3 is barely playable. I was just in that game a few days ago and yea, its pretty rough. With that said tho, id put that game near the top in Spidey titles. I still think Ultimate was my fav tho, but damn, we need a good Spider-Man title. Seriously.

[socool]

SM3 had a lot of potential but the swinging was laughably slow, the camera was glitchy indoors or out and the combat system was confusing. (half the moves i couldn't figure out how to do.)

USM and SM2 are tied as my favorite. I like the graphics, missions and swinging in SM2 better (i dont know why i like the graphics better, it's weird) but USM has some cool combat and a larger city along with a pretty good story.

[ProjectPat2280]

SM3 had a lot of potential but the swinging was laughably slow, the camera was glitchy indoors or out and the combat system was confusing. (half the moves i couldn't figure out how to do.)

USM and SM2 are tied as my favorite. I like the graphics, missions and swinging in SM2 better (i dont know why i like the graphics better, it's weird) but USM has some cool combat and a larger city along with a pretty good story.

Yea i dont think Spider-Man 3 did any one thing particularly well.

Gah i really hope SD is a fun game.

[LightningFlash]

It'll be a fun game for sure.

I'm still most excited for Noir and 2099.

[The Joker]

I'm still most excited for Noir and 2099.

Me too. I've no interest in the USM universe.

[socool]

I have little interest. The design is nice, Deadpool is always awesome and Josh Keaton is a wonderful voice actor.

Still doesn't make me wanna play that dimension very much :p

[ProjectPat2280]

Yea, the only reason i want to play through Ultimate is because of Keaton. I actually dont care about any of the universes other than Amazing. I would of been content with just a classic spider-man game in the 616 universe with noir and 2099 as alt costumes.

Im still looking forward to seeing the different styles of Noir and 2099, but i already know i do not want a Shattered Dimensions 2. The next game needs to be classic 616 Spidey.

[socool]

making a shattered dimensions 2 would be horrible. it would be an exact remake. i hope they do make a pure 616 Spidey game with either GG or Ock as the main villain. But no matter who they choose, the other shouldn't be in it. It would degrade the villains...villainess? if you know what i mean...

[spideyboy_1111]

yeah story wise a sequel wouldn't be too good... but still be fun to play as other worlds (zombie, spider-girl, spider-ham, reign, house of m, 1602, etc...)

[ProjectPat2280]

making a shattered dimensions 2 would be horrible. it would be an exact remake. i hope they do make a pure 616 Spidey game with either GG or Ock as the main villain. But no matter who they choose, the other shouldn't be in it. It would degrade the villains...villainess? if you know what i mean...


Yea i agree.

I wouldnt be opposed to a game that featured Spidey taking on the Sinister 6, granted i would want the story to be a little bigger than just defeat the Sinister 6, but having that group in the game could be cool, maybe even have battles where you have to take on multiple members at once, almost like having multiple boss battles going on at once.

[ProjectPat2280]

yeah story wise a sequel wouldn't be too good... but still be fun to play as other worlds (zombie, spider-girl, spider-ham, reign, house of m, 1602, etc...)


No, lets get a good, classic 616 Spider-Man title before we start throwing in even more universes. Especially if those universes are Spider-Ham, Zombie etc etc.

[LightningFlash]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks a Shattered Dimensions 2 would be idiotic, lol.

I do, however, think we should get sequels from the four different universes(or prequels, whichever way you want to look at it); as in a game for 616 Spidey, a game for Noir, a game for 2099 and a game for Ultimate Spidey. It would obviously be challenging for Beenox and what not, but that idea would be pretty cool. They could take many different villains for all four games and they wouldn't even have to use the same villain for each game(as in, we could get a 616 Green Goblin seeing as how the Noir version of GG is in Shattered Dimensions).

[ProjectPat2280]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks a Shattered Dimensions 2 would be idiotic, lol.

I do, however, think we should get sequels from the four different universes(or prequels, whichever way you want to look at it); as in a game for 616 Spidey, a game for Noir, a game for 2099 and a game for Ultimate Spidey. It would obviously be challenging for Beenox and what not, but that idea would be pretty cool. They could take many different villains for all four games and they wouldn't even have to use the same villain for each game(as in, we could get a 616 Green Goblin seeing as how the Noir version of GG is in Shattered Dimensions).

Yea i guess, but again i still say we deserve a classic 616 based Spidey game before they start tossing in gimmicks like other universes. Spidey is no different than Batman when it comes to games. There was no great Batman title before AA and we didnt see dev's giving us alt Batman dimensions or the like.

I mean we do not have a great Spider-Man game. Period. We have some good ones(Ultimate, SM2) but we dont have that Arkham Asylum level game. No Spider-Man game has been mentioned for a Game of the Year award the way AA was. Give us that level of a Spider-Man title, then start doing Spider-Man 2099, or Noir etc etc.

[socool]

There aren't very many other versions of Batman though lol But still, I agree.

I do hope they can add a lot of the stuff from Shattered Dimensions into the other Spider-man games.

-I want an optional stealth mechanic. You can go stealth if you choose or you can go full head on like normal.
-Leveling up
-Collectables
-Alternate costumes
-Levels/missions that revolve around boss. This is a terrific idea that I'm glad Beenox added. The boss will feel like a threat if you have to fight him for a full hour.

[LightningFlash]

I'm not saying make the four different Spidey games into one solid continuity type of thing, I'm saying focus on these four universes and make distinct games. Of course do 616 first, but I'm also saying that after that game, maybe work on the other three universes, as I would love entire games focused on Noir and 2099. Ultimate Spider-Man isn't necessary, but if they follow that trend, then why not work on an USM game.

And we really don't need sequels for these games, imo. Just one game per universe with a great story for it, as in, for 616, a true gaming experience with Spider-Man vs Green Goblin.

And then with Noir, we could take the more mystical route.

And with 2099, we could go up against Venom 2099.

[ProjectPat2280]

There aren't very many other versions of Batman though lol But still, I agree.

I do hope they can add a lot of the stuff from Shattered Dimensions into the other Spider-man games.

-I want an optional stealth mechanic. You can go stealth if you choose or you can go full head on like normal.
-Leveling up
-Collectables
-Alternate costumes
-Levels/missions that revolve around boss. This is a terrific idea that I'm glad Beenox added. The boss will feel like a threat if you have to fight him for a full hour.

Haha yea, i know that. For every one Batman title there's like 3 Spidey titles.

I agree with what you stated tho. Id love the optional stealth attacks as well as the alts and collectibles and what not.

[LightningFlash]

There aren't very many other versions of Batman though lol

I would love a Green Lantern Batman game, haha.

But then, you'd pretty much be unstoppable.

[ProjectPat2280]

I'm not saying make the four different Spidey games into one solid continuity type of thing, I'm saying focus on these four universes and make distinct games. Of course do 616 first, but I'm also saying that after that game, maybe work on the other three universes, as I would love entire games focused on Noir and 2099. Ultimate Spider-Man isn't necessary, but if they follow that trend, then why not work on an USM game.

And we really don't need sequels for these games, imo. Just one game per universe with a great story for it, as in, for 616, a true gaming experience with Spider-Man vs Green Goblin.

And then with Noir, we could take the more mystical route.

And with 2099, we could go up against Venom 2099.

Yea i got ya. That could be cool.

[Benstamania]

I still wish that "Marvel Zombies" was in place of Ult. Spidey. I mean, I suppose it wouldn't have to involve the EXACT story line...maybe have Peter be one of the only remaining heroes left alive and he has to find a cure or something.

Ult. Spidey dimension was just an extremely lame choice, IMHO...

[ProjectPat2280]

I still wish that "Marvel Zombies" was in place of Ult. Spidey. I mean, I suppose it wouldn't have to involve the EXACT story line...maybe have Peter be one of the only remaining heroes left alive and he has to find a cure or something.

Ult. Spidey dimension was just an extremely lame choice, IMHO...

Yea, i agree that Ultimate is a bit anti-climatic.

Still pumped that Josh Keaton is doing the voice tho.

[socool]

OK, can we stop talking about a 616 game? I'm getting madly depressed it's not real.

[ProjectPat2280]

OK, can we stop talking about a 616 game? I'm getting madly depressed it's not real.

Haha i know how ya feel.

[LightningFlash]

Yea, i agree that Ultimate is a bit anti-climatic.

Anti-climatic is probably the best word representing Ultimate Spider-Man as the fourth universe.

It's no different than 616 Spidey as it's not a big of a jump as it is with Noir and 2099; it's only a younger Peter that has to use the black suit just to have a difference.

And to be the final universe to be revealed, it wasn't as grand as if we were given a much different Spidey than the other three(I would actually think a Spider-Girl reveal as the fourth would've raised more hair).

I still wish that "Marvel Zombies" was in place of Ult. Spidey. I mean, I suppose it wouldn't have to involve the EXACT story line...maybe have Peter be one of the only remaining heroes left alive and he has to find a cure or something.

A Marvel Zombie game is something I'm really hoping for.

Off-topic, but, eh, lol.

[ProjectPat2280]

Anti-climatic is probably the best word representing Ultimate Spider-Man as the fourth universe.

It's no different than 616 Spidey as it's not a big of a jump as it is with Noir and 2099; it's only a younger Peter that has to use the black suit just to have a difference.

And to be the final universe to be revealed, it wasn't as grand as if we were given a much different Spidey than the other three(I would actually think a Spider-Girl reveal as the fourth would've raised more hair).


Well as much as i dont care for Ultimate, i would of hated Spider-Girl. Iv never cared for that character at all, so im thrilled they kept that out, even if it means i have to control a symbiote infected Ultimate Spider-Man.

[LightningFlash]

Well, who knows; it could have been fun.

Imagine the dialogue exhange when all four met up to face the final villain.

"Wait...so there's a Spider-Girl?"

Lol.

[socool]

I just realized something.

If each level revolves around the boss, where do you think Spidey is going to be for Sandman, Lady Ock and Electro in their respective dimensions. I can't think of one for Sandman or Electro but I'm assuming Lady Ock will be a laboratory.

[spideyboy_1111]

No, lets get a good, classic 616 Spider-Man title before we start throwing in even more universes. Especially if those universes are Spider-Ham, Zombie etc etc.

oh i def want a 616 classic one too... they teased us with that back in the day.. Originally they were doing "Ultimate Spider-man" and then following it would be "Amazing Spider-man" or "Classic Spider-man" it was a working title.. but was suppose to be 616 based and got canned.

[socool]

oh i def want a 616 classic one too... they teased us with that back in the day.. Originally they were doing "Ultimate Spider-man" and then following it would be "Amazing Spider-man" or "Classic Spider-man" it was a working title.. but was suppose to be 616 based and got canned.

Spider-man: Origins. I remember that. it was supposed to be Spider-man during his earlier years right around the time he first gets his powers. I was freakin pumped for that.

[Ryuuie]

Noir in the Wii version is freakin ugly!!!Everything on the Wii is ugly.

I have a Wii (got it for my mom) but this made me laugh harder than I should have for some reason. xD

Ouch, thats sad when someone says Spider-Man 3 is the best Spidey title we've got. Spider-Man 3 is barely playable. I was just in that game a few days ago and yea, its pretty rough. With that said tho, id put that game near the top in Spidey titles. I still think Ultimate was my fav tho, but damn, we need a good Spider-Man title. Seriously.

SM3 had a lot of potential but the swinging was laughably slow, the camera was glitchy indoors or out and the combat system was confusing. (half the moves i couldn't figure out how to do.)

USM and SM2 are tied as my favorite. I like the graphics, missions and swinging in SM2 better (i dont know why i like the graphics better, it's weird) but USM has some cool combat and a larger city along with a pretty good story.

You know what, I don't care what you guys say. SM3 brings me more joy than WoS ever did and to me, that makes it decent. :P

...I want to know why the stupid camera doesn't really DO anything outside of camera missions. :| Sure, you can take pics, but it's not like you can SEE them or anything...

Still, SM3 > WoS and that'll tie me over until September 7th. :P

I'm playing SM:SD on my PS3, btw. :D

[socool]

You know what, I don't care what you guys say. SM3 brings me more joy than WoS ever did and to me, that makes it decent. :P

...I want to know why the stupid camera doesn't really DO anything outside of camera missions. :| Sure, you can take pics, but it's not like you can SEE them or anything...

Still, SM3 > WoS and that'll tie me over until September 7th. :P

I'm playing SM:SD on my PS3, btw. :D

I agree. SM3 beats WoS.


I'm also getting SM:SD on my PS3...I'm running out of room on my Xbox

[Havok83]

Spider-Man 3 was the best Spider-Man game so far. And if not that one than Ultimate or SM2. Go back and play Spider-Man on the PSX, it sucks. I know you think it was awesome back when we were kids, but I'm telling you, it sucks. I still have it. It doesn't hold up well. THe only part of the entire game that holds up at all is the very end when you have to run from Monster Ock.

This game looks like it will be just a bit better than Friend or Foe.
No the PS1 games does not suck. It was definetly one of the best Spidey games ever made if not the best. It holds up very well and I still play it every couple of years and enjoy it


You know what, I don't care what you guys say. SM3 brings me more joy than WoS ever did and to me, that makes it decent. :P

...I want to know why the stupid camera doesn't really DO anything outside of camera missions. :| Sure, you can take pics, but it's not like you can SEE them or anything...

Still, SM3 > WoS and that'll tie me over until September 7th. :P

I'm playing SM:SD on my PS3, btw. :D
IDA. WoS was the best Spidey game in recent history. It had the best combat and levelling system in any Spidey game. That was pretty good. I didnt hate SM3 like others but it was a rather disapointment.

[Mario_Galaxy]

I'd love to see the old Spider-Man PSX games remade. I still wish we got a third one.

[Ryuuie]

IDA. WoS was the best Spidey game in recent history. It had the best combat and levelling system in any Spidey game. That was pretty good. I didnt hate SM3 like others but it was a rather disapointment.

WoS is not a Spider-Man game, it's a guy running around in a Spider-Man suit crying over his stupid girlfriend/wife/we don't even know and being a whiny ***** about it when she told him that she was fine and to go save the world.

Oh, he starts KILLING PEOPLE by kicking them off a building.

There's this one guy who you can't really claim to be Venom because he's trying to rule the world, something the REAL Venom would never do because he's only after Spider-Man and the ones he cares about.

Oh, apparently the guy who tries to be Spider-Man can't fight on his own and needs Luke Cage, Wolverine, Moon Knight, and Black Cat to help him. He also doesn't know ANY moves so Luke needs to help him there too.

He's weak as hell in the "Red Suit" and can't lift up a fricking CAR but if he's in the "Black Suit" he can throw cars with ease? I don't know who the impostor is, but the actual Spider-Man from the comics can lift cars with no symbiote needed.

This impostor also only knows one good move, taught to him by Luke Cage. Web Strike. Over and over and over and over and over and over. The man CAN do other things, but it doesn't matter as none of those other things are as strong as Web Strike. It WILL win you the game.

Did I mention he whines about MJ for the first half of the game and sounds like he got his nose broken prior to the game with that horrible voice?

WoS was not a Spider-Man game, it was a failed attempt at one. WoS tried to get the same hype as SM2 did after it was released, I sure don't see that anywhere.

SM3 isn't the BEST game out there, but neither is Spider-Man on the PS1/N64/PC.

There just hasn't BEEN a "Best Spider-Man Game Ever" since Activision took over and that's what people here and on other forums want.

SM PS1, SM2 PS1, SM: Mysterio's Menace, SM1 the Movie, SM2, SM3, FoF, USM...while they may still be fun, none of them have aged very well (and FoF is just a joke for the little kids).

[HELL N' SPIDERS]

What did you guys think of Spider-Man 2 on PS1?
I loved it. I thought the samurai part was kinda out there...but Electro as a main villain really rocked. The final battle was so fun.

And I loved the first one even more. The final escape from Carnage-Ock was awesome.

[venom892]

I love both those games.They remain my favorite Spidey games.

[socool]

What did you guys think of Spider-Man 2 on PS1?
I loved it. I thought the samurai part was kinda out there...but Electro as a main villain really rocked. The final battle was so fun.

And I loved the first one even more. The final escape from Carnage-Ock was awesome.

the graphics were strongly improved but some of the level design was freakin stupid. i.e. the entire Doc Conners lab level. Who has a lab that big and complex?! It was like the freakin S.H.I.E.L.D. base.

[Havok83]

What did you guys think of Spider-Man 2 on PS1?
I loved it. I thought the samurai part was kinda out there...but Electro as a main villain really rocked. The final battle was so fun.

And I loved the first one even more. The final escape from Carnage-Ock was awesome.
never played that one

[socool]

I just got my gameinformer and they were shown the last villain in Amazing. I guess it's official now...?

[Ryuuie]

I just got my gameinformer and they were shown the last villain in Amazing. I guess it's official now...?

Can you get a scan?

EDIT: Nevermind, GI posted an article. lol

IT'S A GIANT BEACH. haha Just as I thought. It looks nice.

http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/08/12/sandman-whips-up-a-storm-in-spider-man-shattered-dimensions.aspx

[socool]

Can you get a scan?

EDIT: Nevermind, GI posted an article. lol

IT'S A GIANT BEACH. haha Just as I thought. It looks nice.

http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/08/12/sandman-whips-up-a-storm-in-spider-man-shattered-dimensions.aspx

there you go. :p

he looks great but his location looks like something out of red dead redemption...

[The Caped Knight]

Can you get a scan?

EDIT: Nevermind, GI posted an article. lol

IT'S A GIANT BEACH. haha Just as I thought. It looks nice.

http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/08/12/sandman-whips-up-a-storm-in-spider-man-shattered-dimensions.aspx

I'm interested to see how this will unfold . I just hope the Finale boss battle in The Amazing Dimensions doesn't involve having to fight a giant Sandman again.

That gimmick has been done already to death, time for a new one.:whatever:

[socool]

full body picture.

http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/screenshots/Spider_2D00_Man_3A005F00_Shattered_5F00_Dimensions/Spider_2D00_Man_3A005F00_Shattered_5F00_Dimensions _5F00_Media/SandmanAmazi.jpg

[The Joker]

It's criminal that Sandman has been featured in more Spidey games this decade than the Green Goblin.

[LightningFlash]

Are his legs muddy...or are his feet missing?

[socool]

they aren't in the picture. they were cropped out.

EDIT: they're mud.

[ProjectPat2280]

It's criminal that Sandman has been featured in more Spidey games this decade than the Green Goblin.

LOL. Hell yea.

I love Flint Marko, he's one of the classics, but the fact Norman hasnt been the main bad guy in a Spider-Man game since the orig movie game is just appalling.

[Spider-ManHero12]

WOw, Sandman looks awesome. Here's hoping the fight will be great! :up:

[The Caped Knight]

It's criminal that Sandman has been featured in more Spidey games this decade than the Green Goblin.

In a way yes since Gobby is Spidey's 1 arch-nemesis . But I guess between the movie and Spectacular Spider-Man marvel's trying to boost Sandy from a B+ classical villain to an A+ villain .

[ProjectPat2280]

Oh and do you all see that giant mace Sandman is using, yea Spider-Man can do that same thing.....LAAAAMMMMEEEE

[LightningFlash]

I don't see how you could boost Sandman from the portrayal of the villain in Spider-Man 3, lol.

I look forward to seeing what the final 2099 villain looks like for the game.

[socool]

Oh and do you all see that giant mace Sandman is using, yea Spider-Man can do that same thing.....LAAAAMMMMEEEE

he can't do that...


he can make fists instead :(

[LightningFlash]

Yes, he can make a mace.

[ProjectPat2280]

he can't do that...


he can make fists instead :(

Haha, he can do both, thats even worse.

[The Joker]

I look forward to seeing what the final 2099 villain looks like for the game.

It's Doc Ock isn't it?

[LightningFlash]

The Amazing universe still looks depressing.

[LightningFlash]

It's Doc Ock isn't it?

Yep; Lady Ock.

[socool]

btw, to whoever said it, sandman and green goblin have appeared equally.

Sandman:
Spider-man 2 (PS1)
Spider-man 3 movie game
Spider-man: Shattered Dimensions

Green Goblin:
Spider-man 1 movie game
Ultimate Spider-man
Spider-man: Shattered Dimensions

[The Caped Knight]

It's Doc Ock isn't it?

Yeah Lady Octopus :doh:

[socool]

The Amazing universe still looks depressing.

what do you mean?

[The Joker]

btw, to whoever said it, sandman and green goblin have appeared equally.

Sandman:
Spider-man 2 (PS1)
Spider-man 3 movie game
Spider-man: Shattered Dimensions

Green Goblin:
Spider-man 1 movie game
Ultimate Spider-man
Spider-man: Shattered Dimensions

Movie games don't count because they're obligated to use the villains the movies used. That Hulk creature in USM was not the Green Goblin.

[socool]

Movie games don't count because they're obligated to use the villains the movies used. That Hulk creature in USM was not the Green Goblin.

yes it does. it's more goblin than amazing too.

[The Joker]

yes it does. it's more goblin than amazing too.

If you think this:

http://www.incognitocomics.co.uk/_pics/FS_2691001.jpg


is the same as this:

http://www.idrawdigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Green_goblin2.jpg


Then I feel sorry for you.

[LightningFlash]

what do you mean?

I mean...the look of it looks awful. I hate the 'comic' look, plus how Spidey can create giant weapons from his webbing...it better be realistic and show Spider-Man filling his web shooters afterwards. And I'm not a fan of the villain choices.

yes it does. it's more goblin than amazing too.

:doh:

[Ryuuie]

Still Norman Osborn. It counts, dude. :P

There is no Green Goblin in SM:SD. It's just "The Goblin". He's a mobster in Noir, not a supervillain.

[LightningFlash]

But we're saying GREEN GOBLIN.

Not Norman Osborn.

[socool]

I mean...the look of it looks awful. I hate the 'comic' look, plus how Spidey can create giant weapons from his webbing...it better be realistic and show Spider-Man filling his web shooters afterwards. And I'm not a fan of the villain choices.



:doh:

have some fun. seriously. you're so depressing.

If you think this:

http://www.incognitocomics.co.uk/_pics/FS_2691001.jpg


is the same as this:

http://www.idrawdigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Green_goblin2.jpg


Then I feel sorry for you.

don't. i'm right. ;)

[LightningFlash]

have some fun. seriously. you're so depressing.



don't. i'm right. ;)

Both of these remarks are stupid.

But to the response from my post...I will say this...

I know the game will be fun, but mostly for Noir and 2099; BUT...I still want a real 616 game. And this 616 universe looks like complete crap.

Excuse me for talking bad about 616 when it's complete crap? I'll try next time, I swear :up: :dry:

[SuperFerret]

There is no Green Goblin in SM:SD. It's just "The Goblin". He's a mobster in Noir, not a supervillain.

Ahem...

Still Norman Osborn. It counts, dude. :P

:awesome:

[ProjectPat2280]

Gah Ultimate Goblin is whack. So is any other hulked out version.

[socool]

Both of these remarks are stupid.

dude. where do you get off being an *******? really. the second one was a joke hence the wink. and the first one is true. you're depressed because it looks like a comic book? uh, wow.

[The Caped Knight]

I hate most if not all the villains look in the Ultimate Spiderman's universe .

[The Joker]

Gah Ultimate Goblin is whack. So is any other hulked out version.

There's nothing Goblin about it. No pumpkin bombs, no glider.....nada. He even wears purple pants like the Hulk!

[Spidey_62]

Sandman looks funny in that one image. In the one's from GI everything looks cool, though.

[Ryuuie]

Ahem...



:awesome:

Ok, so people are mad because there's no 616 Green Goblin, I get that. But it's still Norman Osborn under all those hulked-out muscles.

I like that 616 Goblin isn't in SM:SD. He shouldn't BE in SM:SD if you include Noir in it.

Noir's main villain for the first comic series was Norman Osborn, he wasn't a supervillain, just a crime boss. Vulture worked for him, along with the rest of the Enforcers.

The second Noir series brought the Crime Master as the main villain (though I guess you could argue the Nazis were the main villains in that...).

Point is, 616 Goblin doesn't belong in SM:SD if you're gonna put Noir in.

[Ipodman]

Couldnt they make the graphics better?

[socool]

There's nothing Goblin about it. No pumpkin bombs, no glider.....nada. He even wears purple pants like the Hulk!

LOL

since when do Goblin's carry pumpkin bombs and fly on a glider?

[HELL N' SPIDERS]

well in the ultimate universe he initially wasn't hulked out.
he was just more muscular green skinned and threw fire.
the ultimate spiderman game however destroyed him. they made him some stupid giggling fire thrower.
in the comics norman was calculated like he is in 616, and he took extra time to torture PETER not spiderman. in the comics he was unfreaking beleivably cool.
the game is what ruined him for me.

[The Joker]

since when do Goblin carry pumpkin bombs and fly on a glider?

Since Amazing Spider-Man #14.

[SuperFerret]

Since when are goblins huge hulking beasts?

[LightningFlash]

dude. where do you get off being an *******? really. the second one was a joke hence the wink. and the first one is true. you're depressed because it looks like a comic book? uh, wow.

:awesome:

Hey, for one, you asked me to further my explanation.

And for two...I will further my explanation once more I guess for the feeble-minded to understand(you)....

Amazing looks as horrible as Ultimate, which is sad and DEPRESSING when Noir and 2099 look like the far superior levels in this game. It should be the other way around; Amazing should have been the best levels to play in this game. And it won't be.

I'm not saying the comic-book feeling is a complaint everyone else has, but I do know that one gripe is Spidey using maces and fists, which is idiotic.

And I still say, if we get that, we need to see Peter filling his web shooters after the big feats. I say the 'X' button should do that.

[HELL N' SPIDERS]

LOL

since when do Goblin carry pumpkin bombs and fly on a glider?

im not sure if that was meant to be sarcastic or not.
you do know who the green goblin is right? haha

[Mario_Galaxy]

Screw Goblin and Ock. When do I get to see Hypno Hustler and Kangaroo?

[HELL N' SPIDERS]

^YES! haha

[Ryuuie]

Amazing looks as horrible as Ultimate, which is sad and DEPRESSING when Noir and 2099 look like the far superior levels in this game. It should be the other way around; Amazing should have been the best levels to play in this game. And it won't be.

How are you so sure that Amazing won't be the best to play? Have you played the game and not told us?

[LightningFlash]

Screw Goblin and Ock. When do I get to see Hypno Hustler and Kangaroo?

http://www.americanprofile.com/asset/file/art/58/19758/87y388.jpg

[SuperFerret]

Amazing and 2099 look like they'll be the most fun to play.

[The Caped Knight]

LOL

since when do Goblin's carry pumpkin bombs and fly on a glider?

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6884/amazingspiderman14.jpg

[LightningFlash]

How are you so sure that Amazing won't be the best to play? Have you played the game and not told us?

Because...Spider-Man shouldn't be wasting his webbing on making a giant fist.

Is he creating big objects because he has a small penis?

[The Joker]

Speaking of Doc Ock, although I am disappointed we're not getting Octavius, we are still getting Lady Ock. Anyone looking forward to seeing her?

She is very bad ass in her own right, she's quite smart and nearly as ruthless as Octavius himself, and unlike the Goblin in his alternate versions, still sports the signature trait that defines the villain, in this case four bad ass tentacles, and should still offer the same kind of battle as Octavius would.

[socool]

Since Amazing Spider-Man #14.

Since when are goblins huge hulking beasts?

i meant like mythological Goblin's. The one's Green Goblin was based off.

:awesome:

Hey, for one, you asked me to further my explanation.

And for two...I will further my explanation once more I guess for the feeble-minded to understand(you)....

Amazing looks as horrible as Ultimate, which is sad and DEPRESSING when Noir and 2099 look like the far superior levels in this game. It should be the other way around; Amazing should have been the best levels to play in this game. And it won't be.

I'm not saying the comic-book feeling is a complaint everyone else has, but I do know that one gripe is Spidey using maces and fists, which is idiotic.

And I still say, if we get that, we need to see Peter filling his web shooters after the big feats. I say the 'X' button should do that.

I'm not made you answered me. I'm made you insulted me because you have such a negative opinion.

btw, the X button is fists.

[LightningFlash]

I'm happy we are getting a version of Doc Ock. She created Hobgoblin and Scorpion to kill Spider-Man 2099 most likely.

[SuperFerret]

i meant like mythological Goblin's. The one's Green Goblin was based off.

Which were generally small, mischievously cruel bastards who would play tricks on people. The bat-glider riding, pumpkin-bomb throwing, bag of tricks carrying, 616 Green Goblin (with all his aforementioned Halloween-esque gear) is closer to that than the Ultimate Hulk-Goblin.

[LightningFlash]

I'm not made you answered me. I'm made you insulted me because you have such a negative opinion.

btw, the X button is fists.

Lol, I insulted you by giving a negative opinion? Wow...that's pretty shallow dude.

And...I'm trying to make a joke about the 'X' button....

is RT taken then?

[socool]

Lol, I insulted you by giving a negative opinion? Wow...that's pretty shallow dude.

And...I'm trying to make a joke about the 'X' button....

is RT taken then?

a negative opinion. guess that's a nice way of covering up calling me stupid. :dry:

[Ryuuie]

Because...Spider-Man shouldn't be wasting his webbing on making a giant fist.

Is he creating big objects because he has a small penis?

In the Noir comics, Spider-Man never ran and hid all the time, taking people out one by one. He was confident (sometimes overconfident) and faced his enemies head on.

He was nearly beaten to death by Sandman when he tried to fight him. He took on a mob of people (WITH guns) and took them out with one huge web net.

Noir Universe in SM:SD isn't being represented correctly, it's a crime drama universe not a stealth universe. Does that mean Noir will be bad too or are people just wanting it to be more like B:AA?

Ultimate Spider-Man never used tentacles when he wore the suit, he fought just like he normally would. Should we say Ultimate universe sucks because it's not like the comics?

Point is, even though the web-fighting looks absolutely ridiculous, we cannot say for certain that the universe will suck just because it's not like how we wish to remember Spider-Man. :|

Unless you've played it, that is. If you have, I wish you'd do more than say Amazing sucks. Tell us how Noir, 2099, and Ultimate are too.

[Mario_Galaxy]

What happened to Lady Ock in the comics anyway?

[LightningFlash]

a negative opinion. guess that's a nice way of covering up calling me stupid. :dry:

:huh:

There is no correlation in giving an opinion and calling someone stupid.

[The Joker]

What happened to Lady Ock in the comics anyway?

Last time I saw her was in Secret War back in 2005, when she was involved in a plot to kill Captain America.

[LightningFlash]

In the Noir comics, Spider-Man never ran and hid all the time, taking people out one by one. He was confident (sometimes overconfident) and faced his enemies head on.

He was nearly beaten to death by Sandman when he tried to fight him. He took on a mob of people (WITH guns) and took them out with one huge web net.

Noir Universe in SM:SD isn't being represented correctly, it's a crime drama universe not a stealth universe. Does that mean Noir will be bad too or are people just wanting it to be more like B:AA?

Ultimate Spider-Man never used tentacles when he wore the suit, he fought just like he normally would. Should we say Ultimate universe sucks because it's not like the comics?

Point is, even though the web-fighting looks absolutely ridiculous, we cannot say for certain that the universe will suck just because it's not like how we wish to remember Spider-Man. :|

Unless you've played it, that is. If you have, I wish you'd do more than say Amazing sucks. Tell us how Noir, 2099, and Ultimate are too.

The other mechanics for the other Spider-Men aren't completely laughable though.

And no, I haven't played any demos; maybe I should have when I was at Comic-Con, but, I didn't even feel a slight push to try the game out at the moment.

[socool]

:huh:

There is no correlation in giving an opinion and calling someone stupid.


umm. i'm pretty sure you just called me stupid right...

Both of these remarks are stupid.

there ^

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Prediction for Lady Ock's level:

In a homage to the Master Planner story, have a version of Ock's underwater lair, but in outer space instead. In 616 Spidey, it would be too goofy and over-the-top, but in the futuristic 2099 universe, it seems possible.

[LightningFlash]

umm. i'm pretty sure you just called me stupid right...



there ^

Well, for one, you said I was depressing.

And two...you said Hulk Goblin and 616 Goblin were the same.

So, granted...I think both of those statements were stupid.

And you calling me depressing first before I said your remarks were stupid mean...you were in the 'wrong' first.

Just saying.

[The Joker]

Prediction for Lady Ock's level:

In a homage to the Master Planner story, have a version of Ock's underwater lair, but in outer space instead. In 616 Spidey, it would be too goofy and over-the-top, but in the futuristic 2099 universe, it seems possible.

That would be cool. Plus they already did Ock's underwater Master Planner lair in the PS1 game. I loved that.

[LightningFlash]

Can Spider-Man 2099 swim with that suit?

[SuperFerret]

What is the deal with people's issues with things being goofy and over the top with Spider-Man?

[Ryuuie]

The other mechanics for the other Spider-Men aren't completely laughable though.

And no, I haven't played any demos; maybe I should have when I was at Comic-Con, but, I didn't even feel a slight push to try the game out at the moment.

No, you're right, they're not laughable. Maybe they want us to see how absurd it is BUT still have fun.

I think we can all agree it's 100% absurd even with natural web-shooters. But can you truly say it'll be a horrible playthrough just because of that without actually playing it yourself first?

In fact, from that one preview we saw a few days ago, Ultimate was the button-masher and wasn't as fun as the others and Noir has bad camera issues. Amazing and 2099 sounded like they were pretty solid.

If I went to Comic-Con, that'd be the first place I'd go to...every chance I could. Probably because that would be the only reason I would go. :P

[LightningFlash]

Ehh, I was most excited over Green Lantern and Supernatural.

Shoot, I didn't even know what day Shattered Dimensions was on.

When I do play SD, though, I'm at least going to try to not use any of that bogus web weapons.

[ProjectPat2280]

What is the deal with people's issues with things being goofy and over the top with Spider-Man?


Because things that are goofy and over the top are lame. Plus theres enough Spider-Man stories out there to NOT go goofy. Same with Batman. No one wants to see a game based off of the stupid Adam West version of Batman.

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Because things that are goofy and over the top are lame. Plus theres enough Spider-Man stories out there to NOT go goofy. Same with Batman. No one wants to see a game based off of the stupid Adam West version of Batman.

This couldn't be farther from the truth...

[Ipodman]

I would love to have an Adam West Batman game

[ProjectPat2280]

Ugh. Thank god the ppl who make the decisions don't listen to you two, because thats exactly how Batman needs to be portrayed, as an out of shape, middle aged dork.

[Ipodman]

Ugh. Thank god the ppl who make the decisions don't listen to you two, because thats exactly how Batman needs to be portrayed, as an out of shape, middle aged dork.

Huh? :huh:

[socool]

Because things that are goofy and over the top are lame. Plus theres enough Spider-Man stories out there to NOT go goofy. Same with Batman. No one wants to see a game based off of the stupid Adam West version of Batman.

maybe you should change your phrase. you're basically saying Kramer from Seinfeld is lame because he is over the top and goofy. he is anything but that. he is a great character on an even greater show.

[BizarroAids]

I would love to have an Adam West Batman game

Closest thing you'll get out of that is the B:Brave and the Bold game for Wii/DS.

[socool]

I don't even know why the are making a game about that...

[Ipodman]

Closest thing you'll get out of that is the B:Brave and the Bold game for Wii/DS.

Yea. :woot: Brave and the Bold is not given enough credit :cmad: :woot:

[Venom 1988]

I don't even know why the are making a game about that...
You say that as if its a bad thing.... >_>

[GamerSlyRatchet]

I don't even know why the are making a game about that...

...because it's based on a successful franchise and it was made to make more money on said franchise? Not to mention it actually looks good.

[socool]

...because it's based on a successful franchise and it was made to make more money on said franchise? Not to mention it actually looks good.

really? hmm...i think i'm gonna have to check it out...

[Ryuuie]

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9137/spidermansd360wii.jpg

Comparison thanks to someone on GameFAQs.

[SuperFerret]

Just judging by that, Amazing looks better on the Wii, Noir looks better on the 360 and 2099 is neutral.

[Ryuuie]

It looks brighter on the Wii...but better?

[SuperFerret]

Looks more like a comic book, thus better, to me, perhaps not to you, and likely not to most, but that could be because a lot of people have an irrational hatred for things that may be misconstrued as childish, such as cartoony images, or the Wii itself, while I prefer such things as they remind me why I like this stuff, namely Spider-man and video games, in the first place.

And... 10 commas. :up:

[Ryuuie]

Looks more like a comic book, thus better, to me, perhaps not to you, and likely not to most, but that could be because a lot of people have an irrational hatred for things that may be misconstrued as childish, such as cartoony images, or the Wii itself, while I prefer such things as they remind me why I like this stuff, namely Spider-man and video games, in the first place.

And... 10 commas. :up:

I don't hate Wii. XD I have a few games for the one I bought for my mom.

I just think that the PS3/360/PC graphics look better. Yes, Wii's graphics look more like a comic book, but they don't have much shading it appears...

[SuperFerret]

That's fine. I was just ranting, expressing my opinion and trying to fit as many commas in there as I could.

[Ryuuie]

That's fine. I was just ranting, expressing my opinion and trying to fit as many commas in there as I could.

Should've gone for 12 commas, that's a much better number than 10. :P

Or 24, but that'd be a lot of words to go with it...

[LightningFlash]

Kraven looks funky on Wii.

[Ryuuie]

Kraven looks funky on Wii.

It looks like he's eating that sword...or spitting it out. lol

[LightningFlash]

Not only that, but his head looks like it's sticking way too far out.

[Spider-ManHero12]

That would be cool. Plus they already did Ock's underwater Master Planner lair in the PS1 game. I loved that. Agreed!

I have a question, would you guys rather have had web shooters or organics for this game? I remember back in the PS1 game, there were webshooters and you needed to collect the catridges to refill. Kind of like ammo.

[Havok83]

Looks more like a comic book, thus better, to me, perhaps not to you, and likely not to most, but that could be because a lot of people have an irrational hatred for things that may be misconstrued as childish, such as cartoony images, or the Wii itself, while I prefer such things as they remind me why I like this stuff, namely Spider-man and video games, in the first place.

And... 10 commas. :up:
what you are looking at is a very small screenshot. The PS3/360 have that comic book look. They definetly look better than what teh Wii has to offer

http://www.ps3attitude.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Spider-Man_Shattered_Dimensions_1.jpg

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/spider-man-shattered-dimensions.jpg

[Spider-ManHero12]

If you think this:

http://www.incognitocomics.co.uk/_pics/FS_2691001.jpg


is the same as this:

http://www.idrawdigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Green_goblin2.jpg


Then I feel sorry for you. I cringe with disgust every time I see Ultimate Goblin. Terrible.

[Ryuuie]

http://www.ps3attitude.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Spider-Man_Shattered_Dimensions_1.jpg

Wait...why is Spider-Man kneeling in this but making that pose?

[LightningFlash]

I have a question, would you guys rather have had web shooters or organics for this game? I remember back in the PS1 game, there were webshooters and you needed to collect the catridges to refill. Kind of like ammo.

It would be best if he had organics(at least for Amazing) just so he wouldn't be wasting a full cartidge on a giant web mace.

Wait...why is Spider-Man kneeling in this but making that pose?

Well, he was praying before he went into battle...but that was until the three stooges decided to interrupt.

[Ryuuie]

Well, he was praying before he went into battle...but that was until the three stooges decided to interrupt.

That pose while kneeling shouldn't even be possible... :huh:

If he was jumping, I could see that but he's clearly kneeling on the floor.

Did Beenox fail at physics? :|

Anyway, it's not SM:SD news but...

http://marvel.com/news/all.13599.spider-man~colon~swinging_onto_iphones
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/08/13/spider-man-total-mayhem-iphone-ipod-touch/

Gameloft makes some damn good mobile games...I'd probably buy it. **** Venom though. :|

Also, Marvel needs to change the name for that page. I don't think people want Spider-Man's colon on their iDevice.

Although, maybe Venom catches him in this game and disembowels him from rage? :woot:

[Spider-ManHero12]

It would be best if he had organics(at least for Amazing) just so he wouldn't be wasting a full cartidge on a giant web mace. Very true.


Honestly, web shooters or organics don't really matter to me. I would love either one. Oranics seem to work best though in terms of current Spider-Man games. Mainly the free roam ones.

[SuperFerret]

Doesn't matter, as long as running out of webbing isn't possible.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Always liked the fact that Spidey had to improvise sometimes in the comics when he ran out of webbing. Never really liked the whole organic shooter thing outside of when he was wearing the symbiote suit. Think it would add a degree of difficulty to put that into the game. Nothing ridiculous like 5 shots per cartridge or antyhing like that, but enough to keep you honest.

[Havok83]

Doesn't matter, as long as running out of webbing isn't possible.
IA. I hated in the old games where you had to collect web cartridges. That realyl added nothing to gameplay and only took away from the fun

[Ryuuie]

Marvel just posted this on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYcESHk875E

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Awesome. :up:

[Havok83]

Marvel just posted this on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYcESHk875E
oh man I hate that costume. Always have

[Ryuuie]

oh man I hate that costume. Always have

I think you're the first person I've ever heard say that. :P

Though, I hate the symbiote suit and people seem to irrationally love it. :woot:

[Havok83]

I think you're the first person I've ever heard say that. :P

Though, I hate the symbiote suit and people seem to irrationally love it. :woot:
I dont get it. The Scarlet Spider suit is ugly. I think its beyond overrated and I dont see what the great appeal is. That definetly wasnt the best costume Ben Reilly wore

[Ryuuie]

I dont get it. The Scarlet Spider suit is ugly. I think its beyond overrated and I dont see what the great appeal is. That definetly wasnt the best costume Ben Reilly wore

I just like the hoodie he's wearing, really.

I could care less about the rest of the costume.

By the way, people who wanted to see a bigger pic of the box that mentions Silvermane, I'll be heading to GameStop tomorrow to pay off my preorder on the game, I can snap a better pic of that giant SM:SD box if they have it.

[venom892]

Marvel just posted this on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYcESHk875ELoving it!I hope we also get the other costume Ben Reily wore in the comics.

[LightningFlash]

Okay, so maybe I've found one perk for AU.

Loved Scarlet Spider. It'll be fun to play as SS in the Amazing universe.

[socool]

Okay, so maybe I've found one perk for AU.

Loved Scarlet Spider. It'll be fun to play as SS in the Amazing universe.

plus, that video showed a lot of different attacks that don't require the weird web-attacks. ;)

[LightningFlash]

Indeed; Scarlet Spider looks like he can do a lot without having to hit someone in the head with a web hammer.

[Nathan]

It would be best if he had organics(at least for Amazing) just so he wouldn't be wasting a full cartidge on a giant web mace.

I always found it silly to think that he'd have unlimited webbing, if his webshooters were organic. Where the hell does all the stuff come from? The body still has to produce it. Looking at the amount he is waisting, the body shouldn't be able to keep up with the production.

[LightningFlash]

If he did have organic, you'd think he could produce webbing as how a spider produces webbing.

[SuperFerret]

If he has organic webbing it would likely be like a spider's webbing, and he could run out, particularly if he was constantly using as much webbing as we see him use, but I have to ask you this: How cool and/or heroic is it to see Spider-Man go into kidney failure halfway through each level for the sake of some misguided attempt at realism?

[LightningFlash]

It woud definitely be quite hilarious.

[ProjectPat2280]

That Scarlett Spider alt looks fantastic. Awesome inclusion.

[socool]

I'm starting to think that Beenox is trying to hide the crazy web moves. 9 out of 10 articles list Amazing Spider- man combat as "agility", new gameplay videos use it much less, the scarlet spider trailer used it very little. I think Beenox realized the negative reactions to the weird web attacks and realized it's too late to change it. So they try and cover it up.

[ProjectPat2280]

I'm starting to think that Beenox is trying to hide the crazy web moves. 9 out of 10 articles list Amazing Spider- man combat as "agility", new gameplay videos use it much less, the scarlet spider trailer used it very little. I think Beenox realized the negative reactions to the weird web attacks and realized it's too late to change it. So they try and cover it up.

I think youre right. Those dumb web moves should of never made it in to the game in the first place and i think they realize it now. Too bad its too late.


Has all of the alts been released? Im still hoping for the Ben Reily alt.

[socool]

I think youre right. Those dumb web moves should of never made it in to the game in the first place and i think they realize it now. Too bad its too late.


Has all of the alts been released? Im still hoping for the Ben Reily alt.

they had good intentions when implementing them.


and no, there are more alt. costumes not revealed yet.

[Ryuuie]

If he has organic webbing it would likely be like a spider's webbing, and he could run out, particularly if he was constantly using as much webbing as we see him use, but I have to ask you this: How cool and/or heroic is it to see Spider-Man go into kidney failure halfway through each level for the sake of some misguided attempt at realism?

Good God, man.

That is depressing as ****...but incredibly hilarious.

EDIT: I went to GameStop today, the manager works behind the counter...he was pretty hyped about the game and said he may do a midnight release. Check your GS stores to see if there may be one.

Anyway, about that supposed back-of-the-giant-GameStop-box...it's not from GameStop. I looked around the entire store, the manager went in the back, and we asked employees.... no one has ever seen it outside of the Internet at GameStop. As far as the manager knows, none of the GS stores in the entire state got any SM:SD boxes (yes, I was THAT thorough). They do have nice SM:SD posters for advertising the game.

By the way, they throw those posters away once the game is released, but they will give them away if anyone wants them. The GS I went to tosses them every other Sunday. This includes giant boxes and whatnot. I'm definitely gonna be getting the SM:SD one and maybe the PlayStation Move one. If you want one of those giant Halo: Reach boxes or Call of Duty fake boxes, just ask, I guess. :P

Anyway, yeah so...I don't know where this image came from:

http://www.esssalesinfo.com/activision/sman_ss.html

I was also at Walmart and didn't see it. Best Buy doesn't have it either.

[the_ultimate_evil]

yes it does. it's more goblin than amazing too.

you really need to get your head checked ultimate goblin is a moronic design and a blight on spider-man, and sadly it's what we may get in the new movie

[Ryuuie]

you really need to get your head checked ultimate goblin is a moronic design and a blight on spider-man, and sadly it's what we may get in the new movie

Goblins can be many shapes and sizes in mythology. :|

They're not JUST really thin and small. They can be large and ogre-ish as well.

[socool]

you really need to get your head checked ultimate goblin is a moronic design and a blight on spider-man, and sadly it's what we may get in the new movie

maybe to you. i can see why people prefer the 616 goblin (for the most part i do too) but ultimate green goblin is more...goblin than a guy in a suit. and i know "so spider-man being a spider would make him more spider." well, yes, but the "man" part is there for a reason. green goblin isn't called "green goblin-man" so i feel he should, for the most part, be more goblin than man.

[Ryuuie]

maybe to you. i can see why people prefer the 616 goblin (for the most part i do too) but ultimate green goblin is more...goblin than a guy in a suit. and i know "so spider-man being a spider would make him more spider." well, yes, but the "man" part is there for a reason. green goblin isn't called "green goblin-man" so i feel he should, for the most part, be more goblin than man.

Exactly. 616 Goblin is a guy in a suit, Ultimate Goblin is...an actual goblin created by science.

[Upset Spideyfan]

maybe to you. i can see why people prefer the 616 goblin (for the most part i do too) but ultimate green goblin is more...goblin than a guy in a suit. and i know "so spider-man being a spider would make him more spider." well, yes, but the "man" part is there for a reason. green goblin isn't called "green goblin-man" so i feel he should, for the most part, be more goblin than man.


By that logic Doctor Octopus should be called Doctor Octopus Man and the Vulture should be called Vulture Man and Rhino should be called Rhino Man. I get the impression you started with Ultimate rather than 616 - which is fine, but this line of reasoning seems wobbly.

[socool]

By that logic Doctor Octopus should be called Doctor Octopus Man and the Vulture should be called Vulture Man and Rhino should be called Rhino Man. I get the impression you started with Ultimate rather than 616 - which is fine, but this line of reasoning seems wobbly.

Well, yes, somewhat I agree. Somewhat I don't. Some of those villains should look more like their animal counterpart. Just some. Vulture would be the best villain to be turned more animal. Rhino would be a little odd. Definitely not Doctor Octopus.

By the way, I did start 616 first. However, I started Ultimate soon after and have read more ultimate than I have 616. I love both, don't get me wrong, but I still think the changes made in Ultimate were right. (Most times)

[Oscorp]

Well, yes, somewhat I agree. Somewhat I don't. Some of those villains should look more like their animal counterpart. Just some. Vulture would be the best villain to be turned more animal. Rhino would be a little odd. Definitely not Doctor Octopus.

By the way, I did start 616 first. However, I started Ultimate soon after and have read more ultimate than I have 616. I love both, don't get me wrong, but I still think the changes made in Ultimate were right. (Most times)

There are just so many things in your post there that makes me cringe.

[socool]

There are just so many things in your post there that makes me cringe.

I'm sorry. Was I supposed to run my opinion by you before posting it?

I didn't realize I had to agree with everyone...

[Gamma Goliath]

You don't. And no one is making an issue of it.

I wish theyed release a demo of this.

[socool]

You don't. And no one is making an issue of it.

I wish theyed release a demo of this.

It was sarcasm :p

I wish they would too. I don't think they will though

[Wolvieboy17]

I'm sorry. Was I supposed to run my opinion by you before posting it?

I didn't realize I had to agree with everyone...

Actually, you need to run things by me... It's in the small print. Don't ask me why, it's this whole annoying thing. Such a bother, but hey - We don't make the rules, right?

[LegendaryCaleb]

You want an old man to turn into a bird, socool?

[Maximum Carnage]

Is Ultimate Spider-Man still going on? Haha. I have every single issue 1-115 I think, not sure of the last issue I have. I actually have the first five copies signed by Bendis. ;D

[socool]

You want an old man to turn into a bird, socool?

not really. i just said it wouldn't be bad. any vulture works for me. i guess i'm not too picky.

Actually, you need to run things by me... It's in the small print. Don't ask me why, it's this whole annoying thing. Such a bother, but hey - We don't make the rules, right?

oh, my bad. can i have your email? i have a few opinions I want to post but I'm not sure if they are up to date...

:p

[Wolvieboy17]

oh, my bad. can i have your email? i have a few opinions I want to post but I'm not sure if they are up to date...

The last thing i've got written down from you is "I really like vanilla".

[E-Man]

This game looks great. Hopefully it's longer than the other ones. I don't like beating a game in the span of two days.

[socool]

This game looks great. Hopefully it's longer than the other ones. I don't like beating a game in the span of two days.

depends on your definition of "beat"

if you mean beat the story, it might take you 2 days. 3 if your slow, 1 if you rush. if you mean 100%, then it might take anywhere from 4 to 6.

[ProjectPat2280]

This game looks great. Hopefully it's longer than the other ones. I don't like beating a game in the span of two days.

Then stretch the game out over the span of a week.

[Ryuuie]

Is Ultimate Spider-Man still going on? Haha. I have every single issue 1-115 I think, not sure of the last issue I have. I actually have the first five copies signed by Bendis. ;D

Ultimate Spider-Man is still continuing as Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man.

This game looks great. Hopefully it's longer than the other ones. I don't like beating a game in the span of two days.

I beat M:UA 1 in about a week. ...I prefer to get stuck in my games and not be able to beat it for a month or so. :| I was slightly disappointed, but I replayed it so many times with different characters and costumes, I didn't care in the long run. :D

[E-Man]

Well most of the past Spider-man games I did everything in pretty much a span of two days. I'd play it once I had some free time, and it wouldn't take me but an evening to get through half of it. They were so fun, but ended so soon.:csad: I want them to add more missions and some extra replay value. It doesn't have to be as long as San Andreas, but I want it to be longer than 6-8 hours.

[socool]

Well most of the past Spider-man games I did everything in pretty much a span of two days. I'd play it once I had some free time, and it wouldn't take me but an evening to get through half of it. They were so fun, but ended so soon.:csad: I want them to add more missions and some extra replay value. It doesn't have to be as long as San Andreas, but I want it to be longer than 6-8 hours.

oh then this game is great. one playthrough is anywhere from 10-12. to unlock everything it's about 28 (sounds too long honestly, but...) of gameplay. it's not possible to unlock everything in one playthrough apparently.

[E-Man]

oh then this game is great. one playthrough is anywhere from 10-12. to unlock everything it's about 28 (sounds too long honestly, but...) of gameplay. it's not possible to unlock everything in one playthrough apparently.

Sounds just like I want. Playing as other versions of Spidey is really intriguing for me too. The 2099 version is what I'm really waiting to play as. That should be really fun.

[LightningFlash]

I've only maybe completed two games within two days.

I completed Halo: ODST in one night and Assassin's Creed in two days.

The quickest I've beaten a Spidey game was Ultimate Spider-Man, and that was four days.

[Dark_Lord]

I've only maybe completed two games within two days.

I completed Halo: Reach in one night and Assassin's Creed in two days.

The quickest I've beaten a Spidey game was Ultimate Spider-Man, and that was four days.

:wow: You've played Halo: Reach already? :wow:

:oldrazz:

[LightningFlash]

:wow: You've played Halo: Reach already? :wow:

:oldrazz:

Son of b, haha.

Totally meant ODST.

I was reading stuff on Reach, haha. I doubt I could beat Reach in one night though; heard the campaign will be far more impressive than ODST.

[socool]

Son of b, haha.

Totally meant ODST.

I was reading stuff on Reach, haha. I doubt I could beat Reach in one night though; heard the campaign will be far more impressive than ODST.

Reach will be awesome. This game SHOULD be awesome. I have a feeling it will only be "good"

[Ryuuie]

Reach will be awesome. This game SHOULD be awesome. I have a feeling it will only be "good"

I'd rather have "good" than "Oh god, another mediocre Spider-Man game".

I want a GOOD Spider-Man game. If the problem with crazy web abilities are the only huge issue, then awesome.

[socool]

i don't see the huge problem with the web attacks. some look stupid, some don't. the shapes look bad but the one where he pulls pieces off the ground doesn't look so bad.

[ProjectPat2280]

I'd rather have "good" than "Oh god, another mediocre Spider-Man game".

I want a GOOD Spider-Man game. If the problem with crazy web abilities are the only huge issue, then awesome.

Yea im with you, if those stupid web shapes are my biggest concern, then i think im gonna have a good time with the game.

[socool]

from what i've been hearing it sounds like the two problems are the camera in noir and the web-swinging in general. fix those two (mostly the web-swinging) and this game will be really fun.

[Ryuuie]

from what i've been hearing it sounds like the two problems are the camera in noir and the web-swinging in general. fix those two (mostly the web-swinging) and this game will be really fun.

If they're both fixed, then awesome. I wish we had more gameplay videos. =/

[socool]

If they're both fixed, then awesome. I wish we had more gameplay videos. =/

we totally will. there is 3 weeks left man!! we have 2 bosses, final villain reveal and a launch trailer guaranteed. who knows the amount of articles, gameplay videos and news we will get!

[Ipodman]

I used Spidey in MUA and basically web swing thru most levels

[socool]

I used Spidey in MUA and basically web swing thru most levels

haha! that was random...but i did it too :p

[LightningFlash]

I used Spidey in MUA and basically web swing thru most levels

Ultimate Alliance was a great game, imo. UA2, however, I didn't really enjoy playing it. Plus, I wasn't a huge fan of the new look of the heroes, especially Wolverine's look.

I agree with Ryuuie though, SD may not even be close to being a great game, but I'd rather have a good game instead of a terrible one; and SD will be a good game nonethless. A great Spider-Man game will come in due time though. Soon we'll have a great writer that'll do a Spider-Man v Green Goblin game, as Dini wrote a great story for a Batman v Joker game.

[E-Man]

I think MUA2 had better gameplay than the first, but it wasn't as deep as the first. You only have four powers, and it is a little too easy to level up. It's fun playing because it felt better while playing, but I wish that I had an opportunity to use more powers. Spidey's web mace move was too awesome for words. I hope they put something like that in this game.

[Ryuuie]

I think MUA2 had better gameplay than the first, but it wasn't as deep as the first. You only have four powers, and it is a little too easy to level up. It's fun playing because it felt better while playing, but I wish that I had an opportunity to use more powers. Spidey's web mace move was too awesome for words. I hope they put something like that in this game.

http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af4/VideoGameImages/SMSD/Amazing/sd10.jpg

Yep.

If anyone thinks it's not a mace :P...

http://vocabmadeeasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/mace.jpg

[socool]

the mace is waaaay better than this

http://a.imageshack.us/img819/2011/stupidp.jpg

[ProjectPat2280]

They both suck equal amounts. Im going to avoid using those stupid things at all costs.


Why not save that nonsense for the symbiote, i mean itd be dumb there too but slightly less so.

[socool]

They both suck equal amounts. Im going to avoid using those stupid things at all costs.

wow. so the giant fist is equal to a mace? i agree they both suck but there is no way the fist is equal to the mace, imo.

i will end up upgrading both for the web of destiny trophy.

[E-Man]

Those pics are awesome!

[Ipodman]

yea MUA 1 or 2 is fun to play... I dont really know whether I should be excited for Shatter Dimensions or not... but in the end (and Im not speaking for evryone), I'm just playing it because its Spider-man. its X-men. Or Marvel or whatever. As a game, is it really that good? I dont know.. Im not a huge gamer.

[Ryuuie]

but in the end (and Im not speaking for evryone), I'm just playing it because its Spider-man. its X-men. Or Marvel or whatever. As a game, is it really that good? I dont know.. Im not a huge gamer.

You're entitled to play for whatever reason you want, but honestly, this kind of thinking is what got us so many mediocre Spider-Man free-roamers.

Because Activision KNOWS people with your same mindset will buy it no matter how terrible.

That's why we got the kiddy Friend or Foe, that's why we got the garbage known as Web of Shadows, that's why we got Spider-Man 3 (which isn't the BEST game of all time, but it could've been better), that's why we got Ultimate Spider-Man.

This time though, Activision actually listened to those who said "Stop doing free-roaming Spider-Man because you SUCK at it" and apparently seem to be giving us a game that while may not be GotY or Best Superhero Game Ever, it'll at least be enough to break the horrible curse Spider-Man games have had.

[socool]

You're entitled to play for whatever reason you want, but honestly, this kind of thinking is what got us so many mediocre Spider-Man free-roamers.

Because Activision KNOWS people with your same mindset will buy it no matter how terrible.

That's why we got the kiddy Friend or Foe, that's why we got the garbage known as Web of Shadows, that's why we got Spider-Man 3 (which isn't the BEST game of all time, but it could've been better), that's why we got Ultimate Spider-Man.

This time though, Activision actually listened to those who said "Stop doing free-roaming Spider-Man because you SUCK at it" and apparently seem to be giving us a game that while may not be GotY or Best Superhero Game Ever, it'll at least be enough to break the horrible curse Spider-Man games have had.

Friend or Foe was made for little kids...it just didn't turn out well.

[Ipodman]

Well... the trailers and promotion for Shattered Dimensions generally seem pretty cool. Other than the graphics which seems very outdated but they are going for some sort of different worlds for each character so I dont know. I'm waiting for reviews.

[socool]

Well... the trailers and promotion for Shattered Dimensions generally seem pretty cool. Other than the graphics which seems very outdated but they are going for some sort of different worlds for each character so I dont know. I'm waiting for reviews.

see, i think the graphics are actually fairly surprising. i pulled up a few huge screenshots and looked them over. i mean, they are far from perfect but they look pretty nice.

[Wolvieboy17]

Ryuuie, you can't blame 'Free Roam' as a concept for what made those games suck. Free Roam is still a perfectly acceptable format for a Spidey game, there just needs to be some inspiration in the development. It's not 'Linear' game format that makes Shattered Dimensions look interesting, nor is that what made Batman AA good, it's the developers devotion and passion of the source material! If the devs are committed enough, their love will be reflected in the game, whether its linear, free roam or a Krazy Kart racer. I still think a free roam Spidey game with the level of detail of Batman AA would be amazing. Free Roamers are my favourite type of game, but they're not a type of game that can be rushed. You need to take your time, and put effort and detail into the world otherwise we get Spider-man Web of Shadows.

[Ipodman]

The graphics could have been done a few years ago... it doesnt look detailed enough for me...

[Ryuuie]

Ryuuie, you can't blame 'Free Roam' as a concept for what made those games suck. Free Roam is still a perfectly acceptable format for a Spidey game, there just needs to be some inspiration in the development. It's not 'Linear' game format that makes Shattered Dimensions look interesting, nor is that what made Batman AA good, it's the developers devotion and passion of the source material! If the devs are committed enough, their love will be reflected in the game, whether its linear, free roam or a Krazy Kart racer. I still think a free roam Spidey game with the level of detail of Batman AA would be amazing. Free Roamers are my favourite type of game, but they're not a type of game that can be rushed. You need to take your time, and put effort and detail into the world otherwise we get Spider-man Web of Shadows.

The fact that 2 different developers already tried free-roaming Spidey and both had repetitive games is enough for me to say that free-roaming Spider-Man games are just really played out.

[MACH]

The fact that 2 different developers already tried free-roaming Spidey and both had repetitive games is enough for me to say that free-roaming Spider-Man games are just really played out.

I agree, but I think it has more to do with the consoles right now just not being good enough to give us real detail. Its easy to make a GTA game seem so full and have so much going on, I mean a lot of the missions are just back and forth, collecting or more often than not, shooting. With Spidey, its a whole City that you need to be able to go high and low through at the drop of a hat. Not to mention the fact that nobody has really done a good sandbox game yet that actually uses that many proper buildings WITH an inside.

I think we're a few years off the level of detail thats wanted by everyone.

Having said that, I was really disappointed when Arkham Asylum wasnt freeroam, but now its one of my all time favourite games. I think theres a good chance that Shattered Dimensions could be way up there too.

[Syncos]

I agree, but I think it has more to do with the consoles right now just not being good enough to give us real detail. Its easy to make a GTA game seem so full and have so much going on, I mean a lot of the missions are just back and forth, collecting or more often than not, shooting. With Spidey, its a whole City that you need to be able to go high and low through at the drop of a hat. Not to mention the fact that nobody has really done a good sandbox game yet that actually uses that many proper buildings WITH an inside.

I think we're a few years off the level of detail thats wanted by everyone.

Having said that, I was really disappointed when Arkham Asylum wasnt freeroam, but now its one of my all time favourite games. I think theres a good chance that Shattered Dimensions could be way up there too.

It's been awhile since I played it. But i'm pretty sure Arkham Asylum had a good bit of Free Roam for a linear story. You could go all across the island. I'm not sure it was possible, but I always felt like I could go to more than one building at any given point (except for the end).

[MACH]

It's been awhile since I played it. But i'm pretty sure Arkham Asylum had a good bit of Free Roam for a linear story. You could go all across the island. I'm not sure it was possible, but I always felt like I could go to more than one building at any given point (except for the end).

True, but it wasnt a city was it. At the time(before the release) I was quite disappointed it was just gonna be Arkham.

But I do see your point, there is a free roam element to it. Hopefully Shattered Dimensions' levels are big enough to feel just as good.

[ProjectPat2280]

A free roam Spider-Man game, could be done right, right now. Its not the consoles, its the developers and Activision. Period. However, like someone else stated, to do a free roam game correctly takes a LOT of time. You don't get the detail in Red Dead Redemption in a year and a half. Games like that take upwards of 3 to 4 years to develop and Activision would NEVER spend that kind of time and money on the Spider-Man license. I guarantee you, you give a developer like Rockstar 4 years to make an open world Spidey title and no one will be complaining that there isnt any detail in the city. Its all about the time, effort and talent you put in to a game. Activision doesnt feature very many talented development teams and they sure as hell wont spend a lot of time on their games. Thats not their business model.

[Ryuuie]

Ryuuie, you can't blame 'Free Roam' as a concept for what made those games suck.

Wait a minute, after rereading this, it's clear you didn't really understand what I said and took to believing I was blaming free-roam.

No, I was blaming people who will play a Spider-Man game JUST BECAUSE it's a Spider-Man game.

Yes, I was one of the people saying that Activision needs to stop with free-roaming Spidey games because they simply cannot get it right. I guarantee you that if we have a free-roamer for the new Spider-Man movie, it will be just as bland as the others.

However, people who play ANY Spider-Man game no matter how bad they are, are the reason why we got so many bad games in the first place. If people stopped to think "Do I really want to spend $40-$60 on a game when the game isn't that good and there are obviously better ones out there?"

I can understand wanting to go and try the game, but that's what renting is for. Activision won't get your money that way and they won't incorrectly think that you like the game even if you returned it two days later.

EDIT: In other news, I think I may have found the most boring interview ever for SM:SD.

http://theflickcast.com/2010/08/16/spider-man-shattered-dimensions-developer-interview-and-alternate-costumes-revealed/

They take each question and answer SO damn seriously as if we're talking about BP's oil leak or something. Doesn't help that the questions (and answers) have been heard before.

[Wolvieboy17]

But again Ryuuie, it's not the combination of Spidey and Free Roam that doesn't work, it's more than free roam doesn't lend itself to a strict time limit for completion, which is often the case with any Activision Spidey game, because they try and have one out every year, especially a movie tie in. A linear game has more potential to be succesful, in this regard, because they can potentially use the time more productively.

I still think though that one day, hopefully when Activision loses the Spidey rights, someone can take the time to make a proper spidey free roam game that is every bit as detailed as Batman AA. It just needs the right devs who are prepared to take their time (or more importantly, ALLOWED to take their time). If there was any game format that worked well within the superhero genre it is free roam, but I still don't really feel there has been a free roam superhero game where I FEEL like a superhero. Games like inFamous have come close, but I still think theres alot of unexplored territory.

[Ryuuie]

But again Ryuuie, it's not the combination of Spidey and Free Roam that doesn't work, it's more than free roam doesn't lend itself to a strict time limit for completion, which is often the case with any Activision Spidey game, because they try and have one out every year, especially a movie tie in. A linear game has more potential to be succesful, in this regard, because they can potentially use the time more productively.

I still think though that one day, hopefully when Activision loses the Spidey rights, someone can take the time to make a proper spidey free roam game that is every bit as detailed as Batman AA. It just needs the right devs who are prepared to take their time (or more importantly, ALLOWED to take their time). If there was any game format that worked well within the superhero genre it is free roam, but I still don't really feel there has been a free roam superhero game where I FEEL like a superhero. Games like inFamous have come close, but I still think theres alot of unexplored territory.

The problem with free-roaming and Spider-Man is that the ideas are all rehashed over and over. The story can be ripped straight from the comics, word for word, scene for scene and you'd still get repetition. You'd have to stop with the story sometime and then you'd end up with nothing to do but stop petty crimes every so often while swinging around aimlessly.

Sure, you could hunt down people to gain information and help advance the plot or take some photos, but he doesn't do photos all the time and he doesn't just stalk thugs to get information. He stops petty crimes and sometimes runs into the big bads along the way.

Don't even mention how you could "walk around NY as Peter and have love troubles and all that!" because seriously, it's a Spider-Man game. We may get SOME scenes with him out of costume, but I honestly don't know why people expect to play as Peter in some boring task as "Go to X and take a picture!" or "Oh my god, I gotta go meet MJ so we can have dinner!"

Spider-Man is best suited for linear gaming with levels and a solid story that you don't have to stray from just to swing around the city for a while.

SM2, USM, SM3, WOS...all free-roamers...all incredibly repetitious. If we do get another free-roaming Spider-Man let's wait at LEAST five to six years to come up with a way to break the repetition. During that time, a good linear game with a solid story is all that we need. If SM:SD is good, then another free-roamer would be just another step backwards in the eyes of many.

[DACMAN]

SM2, USM, SM3, WOS...all free-roamers...all incredibly repetitious. QUOTE]

Spider-Man 3 isn't repetitious at all. That game had lots of variety. Ultimate Spider-Man wasn't so bad either. I will give you SM2 and WOS were extremely repetitious.

[QUOTE]If SM:SD is good, then another free-roamer would be just another step backwards in the eyes of many.

This game is already a step backwards in many peoples eyes. I have friends that aren't buying just because it isn't free-roam.

[MACH]

Oh dear:


From facebook: "Hero HQ Another Shattered Dimensions developer interview, with a breakdown of ALL the alternate costumes!"

http://theflickcast.com/2010/08/16/spider-man-shattered-dimensions-developer-interview-and-alternate-costumes-revealed/

[socool]

This game is already a step backwards in many peoples eyes. I have friends that aren't buying just because it isn't free-roam.

your friends are morons.

[ProjectPat2280]

your friends are morons.


No his friends are that typical, casual gamer. I see them all the time at work. They ask questions like "does this game have kill streaks?" I say "no it doesnt" so they immediately put it down.

[socool]

No his friends are that typical, casual gamer. I see them all the time at work. They ask questions like "does this game have kill streaks?" I say "no it doesnt" so they immediately put it down.

...so i was right. :p


they don't like a game because it's a step in a different direction or doesn't follow the pack. if Arkham City was free roam, they would hate it based on those thoughts. not saying they would have, but thats how they seem.

[Ipodman]

I rather not have "Free Roam"... at least not for this game...

Free roam is more suitable for massive online rpgs dont ya think

[ProjectPat2280]

Free roam is more suitable for massive online rpgs dont ya think

Red Dead Redemption would beg to differ.

[MACH]

Red Dead Redemption would beg to differ.


I actually didnt enjoy that game that much.....first few days I thought it was amazing! And visually it really is beautiful! But as far as gameplay goes, its just the same back and forth that GTA4 had(not that I didnt LOVE GTA4 just a bit bored of that now). To each his own though I guess.

[Benstamania]

Strangely, I've yet to preorder this....

[Ryuuie]

SM2, USM, SM3, WOS...all free-roamers...all incredibly repetitious.

Spider-Man 3 isn't repetitious at all. That game had lots of variety. Ultimate Spider-Man wasn't so bad either. I will give you SM2 and WOS were extremely repetitious.

This game is already a step backwards in many peoples eyes. I have friends that aren't buying just because it isn't free-roam.

I'm playing SM3 right now, it IS repetitive. I can't tell you how many car chases I've had to stop. In fact, for the petty crimes, that's ALL I had to do. Once or twice, I had maybe one or two gang wars but really it's nothing but car chases.

USM was chasing the boss of the moment. Every. Single. Time. Repetitious and boring. Should've just called it Ultimate Spider-Man: The Chasing Game.



Oh dear:


From facebook: "Hero HQ Another Shattered Dimensions developer interview, with a breakdown of ALL the alternate costumes!"

I feel sorry for your friends.

http://theflickcast.com/2010/08/16/spider-man-shattered-dimensions-developer-interview-and-alternate-costumes-revealed/

God that article is horrible. :| It's so boring.

I don't think that those are ALL of our costumes, at least I hope not.

But the fact that Acti/Beenox are being so silent doesn't help the case any.

[Wolvieboy17]

Ryuuie, the reason your argument that another free roam spidey game will be repetitive, is flawed, is that you're basing that on the assumption that there is nothing new to do within a Spidey based Sandbox, which is just wrong. There is so much that hasn't been done. Essentially, all we've been given before, is a handful of story missions, some fighting moves and a few combat/crime/race side missions. That doesn't rule out a fsuccessful future of free roam spidey games at all.

I for one still enjoy the basics of those games. Swinging around a city as Spidey is pretty much the main thing thats still fun in those games. It's the fact that there is no sense of 'role' that makes it repetitive. You don't feel as though you have a place.

Think of games like Red Dead Redemption. They flesh out a world so realistic that you really feel a sense of character and your place in the world. Spidey is a game that could really benefit from the little details. Sure we look like him, and can fight like him, but its the little things that you wish you could do, to enhance the feeling. Things like Web yoyo, or being able to string guys up from street lamps. I know these have been done to varying degrees, but little things like this all add up.

For one thing, I don't feel like they've ever nailed the movement of spidey well. Think of games like Assassins Creed and the free running. Spidey should definitely have a movement system like that.

Anyway, I guess i'm just more creatively minded than you Ryuuie, since I don't think we can rule out something from EVER happening based on minor evidence :P

[Ryuuie]

Ryuuie, the reason your argument that another free roam spidey game will be repetitive, is flawed, is that you're basing that on the assumption that there is nothing new to do within a Spidey based Sandbox, which is just wrong. There is so much that hasn't been done. Essentially, all we've been given before, is a handful of story missions, some fighting moves and a few combat/crime/race side missions. That doesn't rule out a fsuccessful future of free roam spidey games at all.

I for one still enjoy the basics of those games. Swinging around a city as Spidey is pretty much the main thing thats still fun in those games. It's the fact that there is no sense of 'role' that makes it repetitive. You don't feel as though you have a place.

Think of games like Red Dead Redemption. They flesh out a world so realistic that you really feel a sense of character and your place in the world. Spidey is a game that could really benefit from the little details. Sure we look like him, and can fight like him, but its the little things that you wish you could do, to enhance the feeling. Things like Web yoyo, or being able to string guys up from street lamps. I know these have been done to varying degrees, but little things like this all add up.

For one thing, I don't feel like they've ever nailed the movement of spidey well. Think of games like Assassins Creed and the free running. Spidey should definitely have a movement system like that.

Anyway, I guess i'm just more creatively minded than you Ryuuie, since I don't think we can rule out something from EVER happening based on minor evidence :P

If swinging around is the ONLY reason you find those games fun, then you've not only proved my point that everything else is repetitive and boring but you repeatedly waste your money on mediocre games when there are MANY others out there that don't suck. I'm not paying $60 to swing around, I want to DO something other than swing.

RDR isn't the best free-roaming game out there so I'm not sure why people keep referencing it as if it's the best ever created. As previously mentioned, it's like GTA IV just with horses.

The "little things" for Spider-Man HAVE been done, you can do them in SM3, the Web Yo-Yo is even used in missions even. You can also string people up from lampposts with just one webline OR four to hang them there. If you skipped SM3, you would've missed it since the travesty known as WoS removed it all in favor of horrible fighting and repetitive moves.

Creativity doesn't really have anything to do with it because, when it comes down to it, all Spider-Man games are just swinging around, fighting, and those petty crimes. The meaningless tasks and story are what bring each free-roam title down. However, there's not much you can do with those tasks that don't borderline on "Well, why didn't they just make this into a game than just shove it into this one?" If you have too many plots and bosses, you'll end up with SM3 the movie or even another WOS.

I guess I want more than a cheap Spider-Man game than you do, Wolvieboy17. I want a GOOD game and a free-roam Spider-Man game made by Activision simply isn't good. At all. You can argue until you're blue in the face, but the fact is that Activision just can't do it so they shouldn't bother trying anymore. You can come up with thousands of "good ideas" but the chance of them happening are pretty low considering who we're dealing with here.

This argument will be more relevant once the license drops, but that's not until seven years from now, so you got a good wait on you.

I'd like to know what you think we can do other than the ridiculous "Go take photos" or "Go stop petty crime #4 over and over" or "Have mini-boss fights all the time". Keep in mind, this is a Spider-Man game, not Peter Parker: The Video Game so no dating crap either.

[Wolvieboy17]

Ryuuie, you have beautifully and spectacularly succeeded in missing the point, and deluding your own argument out of my post, and for that I say well done sir.

To list all the things you misquoted would take too long, so i'll distill it down to this...

I don't own and have never owned any of the Spidey games other than SM 2. I have, however, played and completed all of them. Whilst I would still, from time to time, if I was in a Spider-Man mood, enjoy just swinging around and beating up thugs, it DID get repetitive.

Where you arguments falls, and continues to do so, is that it is not the fault of FREE ROAM for this repetiveness, but rather just shoddy game design. Basically you are saying, instead of having a repetitive structure of 'swing, fight, story mission repeat' you would rather a linear 'beat em up, fight, boss fight, cutscene repeat'.


You've jumped to assumptions about my argument that were total bull, and then had the audacity to accuse me of being some kind of mindless Spidey Merch consumer. Well correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it YOU who obsesses and screeches over the release of ANY new Marvel game? That seems to be all you do. Complain about Activision, try and tell people how it's the FAN'S fault for things like why Carnage was in MUA 2, or why WOS happened etc.

And out of curiosity, since you missed the point of me referencing RDR (not labelling it as THE BEST FREE ROAM EVER') what would you classify as the best free roam game, and tell us all how it isn't repetitive?