The First Avenger: Captain America Described As “Raiders meets Rocketeer and Saving P

[Team Andino]

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/08/09/the-first-avenger-captain-america-described-as-raiders-meets-rocketeer-and-saving-private-ryan/

Earlier today I posted about a comment that director Louis Leterrier (The Incredible Hulk) made during an interview with the Los Angeles Times, while on the England set of his latest film Clash of the Titans. There were also a few other interesting tidbits have emerged from the interview concerning Leterrier’s future with Marvel, The Incredible Hulk 2, The Avengers and his thoughts on the early designs for The First Avenger: Captain America. Read the full interview over at LATimes (http://feeds.latimes.com/%7Er/The_Hero_Complex/%7E3/MzldeuLkkpc/leterriers-dream-an-avengers-epic-told-in-four-films-over-one-summer-.html), or check out the highlights below:



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Apparently, Leterrier is contracted to direct one more film with Marvel.
Right now it does not look like he will be directing a sequel to The Incredible Hulk. Likewise, right now I doubt that Marvel will be making a sequel to The Incredible Hulk.
His next Marvel film will likely be something else — “something different that I can really put my touch on.”
Like everyone else, Leterrier “would love to do the Avengers film.” And who wouldn’t, really?
He has seen some of the design work Marvel is doing for The First Avenger: Captain America and says it “looks amazing” and is “going to be so cool.” He describes it as “a period piece”like Raiders of the Lost Arkhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2.gif (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/08/09/the-first-avenger-captain-america-described-as-raiders-meets-rocketeer-and-saving-private-ryan/#) but “with more gadgets…” He later clarified, “It’s Raiders meets Rocketeer and Saving Private Ryan.” Which makes sense since Captain director Joe Johnston was the art director on Raiders, and the director of The Rocketeer.

The concept painting in the header of this story, and full size below, is not from the production of the movie (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/08/09/the-first-avenger-captain-america-described-as-raiders-meets-rocketeer-and-saving-private-ryan/#). Jonathan Mayer (http://elandain.deviantart.com/art/I-could-have-done-more-132286839) created the concept art, as an unsolicited pitch for the upcoming film. The painting is entitled “I Could Have Done More.” and shows The Captain in the aftermath of Normandy. I thought it was interesting enough to include with this story.


Check the link out for a pic, I'm happy to finally hear any news about this movie. I really hope they don't mess this movie up

[Judson Caspian]

Likewise, right now I doubt that Marvel will be making a sequel to The Incredible Hulk.
If not, it really contradicts what Tim Roth said recently about The Abomination. I don't think he was talking only about The Avengers.

[Aesop Rocks]

Picture with article. Not official concept art but a painting of what one would like to see the suit.

http://i27.tinypic.com/245iy45.jpg

[Aztec]

Raiders of the Lost Ark + The Rocketeer + Saving Private Ryan= Captain America?

PERFECT!! That's exactly what I want from this film.

[Aesop Rocks]

Is Rocketeer a movie I can see any where?

[FaT_tONle]

If not, it really contradicts what Tim Roth said recently about The Abomination. I don't think he was talking only about The Avengers.

No it doesn't... Roth was basically commenting that he was signed to three films, which can either be Hulk movies or Avenger movies or both. It doesn't mean Marvel has to use the character again or even make more Hulk movies in the future.

Is Rocketeer a movie I can see any where?

You should definitely catch that. I'm am sure it will look cheezy compared to today's standards but it was a decent film back in the day. And Connolley was hot as **** back then, so that counts for something.

[bubbadoom]

Hopefully this means they are keeping it all in the '40's. Maybe we will get the Invaders in a sequel. That could be pretty unique, the same character in two series of movies - one set in the past and the other in the present. Excelsior!

[Webhead2006]

Well its nice to hear that it could end up being compared to those films. I would be happy with that. As for your comments bubbadoom, it has pretty much been stated by marvel Captain america film will be all in ww2 setting like it should be. Now the only question is cap going to get frozen at end of the film, discovered by shield for a end credit scene and lead to avengers. Or will avengers start out with finding cap.

[Judson Caspian]

No it doesn't... Roth was basically commenting that he was signed to three films, which can either be Hulk movies or Avenger movies or both. It doesn't mean Marvel has to use the character again or even make more Hulk movies in the future.
Yes, it does. He also said that they have already incorporated his character in a film, and it's unlikely it's only The Avengers.

[Isildur´s Heir]

I have really doubts that this movie will be all that great.
It´s all set on WWII, and i wouldn´t want it anyother way, but, even so, i have the feeling it will fall more on the Rocketeer than Saving Private Ryan, and bare in mind that i love the Rocketeer.
A great Captain America movie should be an extremely serious movie about war and it´s effects on everything that surrounds it, seen through the eyes of a living legend.
From the trenches, to the bombardments, to the concentration camps...all from the prespective of a guy that, all he really wanted was to serve his country, and found out it wasn´t about America, it was about the world.
And don´t even try to make it an all American movie, with flags waving in the air, because, contrary to what people think, Cap America is not about America as a country, but America as an ideal of liberty and equality, things that run across all the globe (but with diferent names, of course).
I bet it will not be like that.

[bubbadoom]

Yeah, I know Marvel is finally saying it's all WWII, I am just hoping the big freeze is saved for the Avengers prologue - keeping Cap active at the end of his solo movie for move WWII action in the sequels!

[Aztec]

Yeah, I know Marvel is finally saying it's all WWII, I am just hoping the big freeze is saved for the Avengers prologue - keeping Cap active at the end of his solo movie for move WWII action in the sequels!

No I'd rather this film go right up to the freeze. I'd like that moment to be his final WWII era heroic act. What better way to end is film than with the big bang?

Besides I want the end of the Cap movie to be Fury, Widow, Stark, Banner, and Thor in the Antarctic standing over Cap's frozen body.

[deathshead2]

Raiders of the Lost Ark + The Rocketeer + Saving Private Ryan= Captain America?

PERFECT!! That's exactly what I want from this film.Joe Johnston worked on Raiders and directed The Rocketeer. Sounds perfect. Alot of folks on /film hate the ideas for this movie.

[FaT_tONle]

Yes, it does. He also said that they have already incorporated his character in a film, and it's unlikely it's only The Avengers.

Could be an animated film. Could be a cameo in another Marvel film. Could be a reference to his character. Could be just the Avengers movie. Nothing in that article makes me believe that Marvel has intentions of doing more Hulk films.

[Webhead2006]

double post.

[Webhead2006]

Who says they could have hulk be another film after thor/cap/im2? And he is likely going to be a factor in avengers in some way. Plus marvel doesnt own full rights on that many guys at this point so its foolish to say they wouldnt think of another hulk solo film down the road.

[Dark Phantom]

I have really doubts that this movie will be all that great.
It´s all set on WWII, and i wouldn´t want it anyother way, but, even so, i have the feeling it will fall more on the Rocketeer than Saving Private Ryan, and bare in mind that i love the Rocketeer.
A great Captain America movie should be an extremely serious movie about war and it´s effects on everything that surrounds it, seen through the eyes of a living legend.
From the trenches, to the bombardments, to the concentration camps...all from the prespective of a guy that, all he really wanted was to serve his country, and found out it wasn´t about America, it was about the world.
And don´t even try to make it an all American movie, with flags waving in the air, because, contrary to what people think, Cap America is not about America as a country, but America as an ideal of liberty and equality, things that run across all the globe (but with diferent names, of course).
I bet it will not be like that.

I hate to share in your view of negativity. There's no doubt this will be a fun, entertaining film, but it might not be the ideal Captain America movie.
I have a feeling that instead of an in depth character study masterpiece, on par with "Saving Private Ryan", it will as you said be a fun action serial akin to "Raiders of the Lost Ark". Which isn't entirely bad, just not ideal.

[Canis Sapiens]

You know what?
I prefer "Raiders of the Lost Ark" to "Saving Private Ryan".

Not only as films, but as templates for the Cap movie. It's just a gut feeling, I think an overserious movie, with concentration camps et al would be a disaster at the box office. First, because all this drama is not the kind of thing the general audience wants to see in a summer movie. Second, you can make a fun, intelligent, action packed movie set in WW II without having to go the "Schindler's List" or "The Pianist" route. You have "The Cross of Iron", "The Great Escape" and now "Inglorious Basterds" as examples of fantastic WW II films that don't take themselves so seriously, are only preocupied in showing the good guys kicking some nazi asses, and are all the better for it.

Cap, IMO, should have that kind of tone. Hey, it worked for Indy. :oldrazz:

[louiebling$]

I am diggin the direction they are going with Cap :up:

[Jake Cassidy]

Is Rocketeer a movie I can see any where?

You should definitely catch that. I'm am sure it will look cheezy compared to today's standards but it was a decent film back in the day. And Connolley was hot as **** back then, so that counts for something.

Rocketeer is one of my favourite movies ever. It's bloody fantastic. :woot:

It's also the hottest Jennifer Connelly has ever been and that's saying something. :yay:

[jab1118]

You know what?
I prefer "Raiders of the Lost Ark" to "Saving Private Ryan".

Not only as films, but as templates for the Cap movie. It's just a gut feeling, I think an overserious movie, with concentration camps et al would be a disaster at the box office. First, because all this drama is not the kind of thing the general audience wants to see in a summer movie. Second, you can make a fun, intelligent, action packed movie set in WW II without having to go the "Schindler's List" or "The Pianist" route. You have "The Cross of Iron", "The Great Escape" and now "Inglorious Basterds" as examples of fantastic WW II films that don't take themselves so seriously, are only preocupied in showing the good guys kicking some nazi asses, and are all the better for it.

Cap, IMO, should have that kind of tone. Hey, it worked for Indy. :oldrazz:
I couldn't agree more u don't get why people would want a overly serious war movie for cap. I mean I want them ti deal with the war and it's effect and all that but u don't want it to be depressing. And to be honest imputing cap into a saving private Ryan movie would be a bomb and come off as sort of disrespectful IMO. And a cap film needs to keep the same tone as the other marvel movies. It can be more serious but don't go crazy

[KatarHol]

The Rocketeer is in my top 5 favorite movies of all time,i love EVERYTHING about that movie,if Cap comes close to the tone and look of that movie,i will be very,very happy. Too bad Bill Campbell is too old for Cap,he's got the height and the look,and the earnest quality of Cap,just make him blond and he would have been perfect.

[Mister J]

“It’s Raiders meets Rocketeer and Saving Private Ryan.”
I can't really ask for a better angle than that. :up:

I'm cautiously optimistic about this film. I want it to be ****ing incredible, but putting everything is the right balance is a tricky deal.

[Cracker Jack]

Nothing in that article makes me believe that Marvel has intentions of doing more Hulk films.

How about this one

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2009/08/leterriers-dream-an-avengers-epic-told-in-four-films-over-one-summer-.html

GB: I met Gale Ann Hurd at a producer conference in Los Angeles not long ago and she mentioned the plan to move forward with a sequel to your film “The Incredible Hulk.” Is that something you would be doing?

LL: Well, so far, no. I am contracted to do one more film with Marvel so when I’m done here with this I will go back to say to them, “Guys you need me? Is there something I can do?”

[FaT_tONle]

How about this one

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2009/08/leterriers-dream-an-avengers-epic-told-in-four-films-over-one-summer-.html

Well that's a different article... plus that was a while back and Hurd has basically given us nothing since then.

[Cracker Jack]

Don't be the party pooper. :oldrazz:

[Webhead2006]

yea awhile go their may have no been news/plans to do more hulks but things could change and all that. It still was a modest sucess for marvel and a enjoyable film. I would love ot see another. Also cant wait to see how thor/cap and im2 all shape up.

[Lobo]

Is Rocketeer a movie I can see any where?

Ever heard of an invention called a dvd? :dry:

[RachelDawes]

I like the picture attached to the article. That's a really different version of the costume.

[Aesop Rocks]

Ever heard of an invention called a dvd? :dry:

Really? Really?

[Agent 194]

Is Rocketeer a movie I can see any where?


Yes and it would be worth your while. There's a smoking hot, young Jennifer Connelly as the female lead in it. She had a little weight (baby fat) on her too. Man, she was great. She's too Hollywood skinny now.

I really like the description of the movie as elements of those movies. Now if they just stay with the traditional costume.

[Triad]

I have really doubts that this movie will be all that great.
It´s all set on WWII, and i wouldn´t want it anyother way, but, even so, i have the feeling it will fall more on the Rocketeer than Saving Private Ryan, and bare in mind that i love the Rocketeer.
A great Captain America movie should be an extremely serious movie about war and it´s effects on everything that surrounds it, seen through the eyes of a living legend.
From the trenches, to the bombardments, to the concentration camps...all from the prespective of a guy that, all he really wanted was to serve his country, and found out it wasn´t about America, it was about the world.
And don´t even try to make it an all American movie, with flags waving in the air, because, contrary to what people think, Cap America is not about America as a country, but America as an ideal of liberty and equality, things that run across all the globe (but with diferent names, of course).
I bet it will not be like that.
While I like your vision of the direction that FA:CA should take, I have to admit that there still could be room for some Raiders of the Lost Ark swash-buckling fun & humor. Too much seriousness probably wouldn't play well to the masses. I think if Marvel & Johnston can actually pull off a hybrid of Rocketeer, Raiders & Saving Pvt. Ryan, they could have an all-out hit on their hands! It will be tough to achive the right balance, but I'll bet that it can be done. I'm still leery of Penn's involvement in writing the script, though. His past projects leave me wondering if he's up to the challenge. We shall see.
My excitement level just went up a few notches! Thanks Louis Leterrier!

[Dark Phantom]

I'm all for swash buckling fun, but when I think of "Saving Private Ryan", besides the serious tone, is the epic classic scale. There is no doubt that "Raiders" fits that bill as well, afterall they were both directed by Speilberg. I'm just saying that I want Joe Johnston to have really classic imagery as well as iconic music in this film to invoke a really strong emotional impact. James Horner anyone?

I want that feeling of "America! F*** YEAH!!!!".

[Isildur´s Heir]

While I like your vision of the direction that FA:CA should take, I have to admit that there still could be room for some Raiders of the Lost Ark swash-buckling fun & humor. Too much seriousness probably wouldn't play well to the masses. I think if Marvel & Johnston can actually pull off a hybrid of Rocketeer, Raiders & Saving Pvt. Ryan, they could have an all-out hit on their hands! It will be tough to achive the right balance, but I'll bet that it can be done. I'm still leery of Penn's involvement in writing the script, though. His past projects leave me wondering if he's up to the challenge. We shall see.
My excitement level just went up a few notches! Thanks Louis Leterrier!
But the thing is, fun, action, excitment...all those things are inherent to the comic book genre, so, that´s why i didn´t addressed that.
But, imo, all comic book movies, if done properly, should be very serious movies, because they are about the men and women behind the masks and not the other way around (that´s why, 80% of comic book movies suck or are just popcorn fun).
Captain America should be even more, because it deals with the mother of all wars.

[Spider-Vader]

This is what I wanted for a Cap movie. Raiders is the perfect start for Cap IMO.

I have a feeling if Hulk is popular in the Avengers, Marvel will give him another movie. TIH was pretty well recieved, it just wasn't that popular at the BO because of 'Hulk' & Universal's s*** promotion.

[Dark Phantom]

But the thing is, fun, action, excitment...all those things are inherent to the comic book genre, so, that´s why i didn´t addressed that.
But, imo, all comic book movies, if done properly, should be very serious movies, because they are about the men and women behind the masks and not the other way around (that´s why, 80% of comic book movies suck or are just popcorn fun).
Captain America should be even more, because it deals with the mother of all wars.

Exactly! I'm going to use Watchmen as a perfect example. Say what you will about the film, but you have to admit that the tone coincided both entertainment (through stylized action) and in depth character study. An ideal Captain America should have its own unique style in imagery, while developing characters through serious provocative themes.

[KangConquers]

Well that's a different article... plus that was a while back and Hurd has basically given us nothing since then.

I have also expressed doubts that we'll see an Incredible Hulk 2. Maybe a threeboot in 2015 or something, but not a direct sequel.

[FaT_tONle]

The day we start getting threeboots is the day the genre has officially been p***ed on.

[Spider-Vader]

I'm all for swash buckling fun, but when I think of "Saving Private Ryan", besides the serious tone, is the epic classic scale. There is no doubt that "Raiders" fits that bill as well, afterall they were both directed by Speilberg. I'm just saying that I want Joe Johnston to have really classic imagery as well as iconic music in this film to invoke a really strong emotional impact. James Horner anyone?


John Williams FTW. :woot:

[The Ace of Knaves]

Picture with article. Not official concept art but a painting of what one would like to see the suit.

http://i27.tinypic.com/245iy45.jpg

That's very cool. Who is it as Cap?

[The Ace of Knaves]

John Williams FTW. :woot:

Yea John Williams would be my choice.

Cap needs a really strong, unforgettable theme. Williams could create something special.

[Rage]

The day we started getting threeboots is the day the genre has officially been p***ed on.

Batman - Batman Forever - Batman Begins... That seems like a threeboot!! :D

[FaT_tONle]

Schumacher films were not complete reboots.

[Triad]

Yeah, If I remember correctly, The actors that played Alfred and Commissioner Gordon were constants in the first 4 films.

[Aesop Rocks]

That's very cool. Who is it as Cap?

Nope, Red Skull.

[The Ace of Knaves]

Nope, Red Skull.

Wha...? :hehe: No I meant who is Cap in the picture. :D

[Team Andino]

The day we start getting threeboots is the day the genre has officially been p***ed on.
Poor poor Punisher....:unishr:

I keep hoping for a sequel with Thomas Jane....:csad:

[Rage]

Schumacher films were not complete reboots.

Okay...

Batman (1966) starring Adam West

Batman (1989) starring Michael Keaton

Batman Begins (2005) starring Christian Bale

or...

Superman and the Mole-Men (1951) starring George Reeves

Superman (1978) starring Christopher Reeve

Superman Returns (2006) starring Brandon Routh


It's not that uncommon :oldrazz:

[Spider-Vader]

That's very cool. Who is it as Cap?
I think it's Steve. It looks like it's based on his costume he wore in WW2 in the Ultimate universe. I like it.

Yea John Williams would be my choice.

Cap needs a really strong, unforgettable theme. Williams could create something special.
A mix between Indy & Saving Private Ryan seems good for me. Maybe a little bit of Superman.

[Rage]

I think that the mini series Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty strikes a great balance of humour (early with him discovering his power) and seriousness (late with him questioning everything about WWII and his involvement)

This movie needs to have a deep side to it. Captain America is a guy who risks his life... just so he can fight the worst possible enemy to his very core beliefs. That needs to eminate from this movie. Nazi = Evil! Cap needs to be the guy that goes to war not because Pearl Harbor was bombed, but because of what the Nazis are doing to the people of Europe and Asia. THey need to play up the indifference in most americans at the time to the war (because the US was making money hand over fist) and not have Pearl Harbor be the catalyst for Steve Rogers. Steve would have been in WWII way before PH if he could get into the army before the SSS experiment. I think they should mention or show him attempting to join the Canadian Military or RTF because HE HATES WHAT THE NAZIS ARE DOING (not because of Pearl Harbor)

[CaptainCanada]

Steve would have been in WWII way before PH if he could get into the army before the SSS experiment. I think they should mention or show him attempting to join the Canadian Military or RTF because HE HATES WHAT THE NAZIS ARE DOING (not because of Pearl Harbor)
Steve canonically signed up long before Pearl Harbour; he has a very full career in 1940.

I agree, though; when I've thought about how I'd a purely WWII Cap movie, after the scene where he's rejected by the army recruiting office, I'd have him head off to a train station to catch a ride to Montreal, only to be intercepted by the general who recruits him to the program ("4-F is 4-F in Canada too. But there's another way...").

[Lone Wolf]

I'm still optimistic about the film, but I really can't ask for a better example for a Cap film then the one described. :up:

[Spidey_62]

Wow, that sounds amazing. All three are fantastic movies, Cap being a mesh of those is perfect.

[Rage]

Steve canonically signed up long before Pearl Harbour; he has a very full career in 1940.

I agree, though; when I've thought about how I'd a purely WWII Cap movie, after the scene where he's rejected by the army recruiting office, I'd have him head off to a train station to catch a ride to Montreal, only to be intercepted by the general who recruits him to the program ("4-F is 4-F in Canada too. But there's another way...").

I just see it as an easy out to have him sign up after pearl harbour... as a parallel to those that did so after 911... It would be an easy device for a screen writer to use that would strike a cord with the american public... but would really deminish Cap's character.

I like the idea that he has attempted to join the Canadian Military, the Brits ect... but he's just too weak to be accepted by any of them. That desperation to do the right thing and fight the good fight is what drives the engine inside Steve Rogers and makes Captain America the hero he is.

I just hope that they treat the character right and don't take the easy shortcuts (like Pearl Harbour) to make the movie more accessible to the GA.

[roach]

I just see it as an easy out to have him sign up after pearl harbour... as a parallel to those that did so after 911... It would be an easy device for a screen writer to use that would strike a cord with the american public... but would really deminish Cap's character.

I like the idea that he has attempted to join the Canadian Military, the Brits ect... but he's just too weak to be accepted by any of them. That desperation to do the right thing and fight the good fight is what drives the engine inside Steve Rogers and makes Captain America the hero he is.

I just hope that they treat the character right and don't take the easy shortcuts (like Pearl Harbour) to make the movie more accessible to the GA.

I would do it as he tries to join the army in 1940 and is turned down but is met by General Phillips who volunteers him for Project Rebirth (him trying to join Canadian army or Britain's wouldnt sit right with me..should he be the American symbol of freedom if he is quick to give up citizenship just to fight). When Hitler started making his moves no one in America want to fight because of the great loss of life in WW1. Infact Neutrality Laws were in effect that prevented America from fighting in the war. Also remember that at that time no one knew about the concentration camps until towards the end of the war.
I see Cap's career as a spybuster until Dec 7th. He goes against spies, assassins and saboteurs and when Pearl Harbor is attacked he goes to Europe and is a part of the fight.

[Rage]

Would he have to give up his citizenship to go join another countries army? I don't think so. I think you can serve in the US armed forces as a foreigner...the recruiters were constantly after me when I lived down in the states going to college.

[Hypestyle]

hmm... I wonder what Disney's promotional resources will add.. hopefully they can help get it in many more territories.. help push merchandise at all the disney stores and theme park merchandise stands..

[Timstuff]

The Rocketeer IMO was the best superhero movie of the 1990's. I friggin' love that movie, and it's long been a favorite of my family, which is why the instant I heard Johnston was going to direct Cap, I knew they'd gotten the perfect guy for the job. He was actually one of my top choices to direct a Superman reboot a while back, but he's also an excellent choice for Captain America since he's familiar with doing a movie in that period. Raiders + Rocketeer + Saving Private Ryan = ZOMG.

[roach]

Would he have to give up his citizenship to go join another countries army? I don't think so. I think you can serve in the US armed forces as a foreigner...the recruiters were constantly after me when I lived down in the states going to college.

US doesnt require it but Britain and Canada do

[conan69]

"The Rocketeer IMO was the best superhero movie of the 1990's. I friggin' love that movie, and it's long been a favorite of my family, which is why the instant I heard Johnston was going to direct Cap, I knew they'd gotten the perfect guy for the job. He was actually one of my top choices to direct a Superman reboot a while back, but he's also an excellent choice for Captain America since he's familiar with doing a movie in that period. Raiders + Rocketeer + Saving Private Ryan = ZOMG."


I agree.

The Rocketeer is still in my top 10 of comic book films. I read some of the comics back in the day, and saw it in the theater 3 times and agree its a underrated film.

Johnsons involvement has me hopeful about Cap.

[Rage]

Lets hope that its "Raiders" and not "Crytsal Skull" I watched that pile of dung again last night and hated it more than I did the first time. Let's hope Johnson sticks to the realism of SPR and grit of Raiders and not the phony looking CGI of Crystal Skull