Say The Kingpin were in Spider-Man 4.

[BrollySupersj]

Who would you prefer to play him? I thought Michael Clark Duncan was pretty good but, I'd like to see if anyone else could do it.


I for one think Michael Chiklis wouldn't be such a bad choice. So who would you pick?

[Spider-ManHero12]

Michael Clark Duncan, IMO. :up:

[Demogoblin]

I would like to see MCD for continuity purposes but I dont know if he is the caliber of actor that Sam would put in SM4. Look at the other actors that have worked as villains for Sam (or been offered the opportunity): Willem Dafoe, Alfred Molina, Ben Kingsley, Thomas Hayden Church. Nothing against Michael Clark Duncan but he isnt in that league.

[Anubis]

They'd be better off going with Tombstone ala Spectacular Spider-Man or maybe Silvermaine.

[Blackman]

I wish they would worry about putting Kingpin in Daredevil before SP4 but If he was going to be in it. I say Ray Winestone

[Catman]

I would like to see MCD for continuity purposes but I dont know if he is the caliber of actor that Sam would put in SM4. Look at the other actors that have worked as villains for Sam (or been offered the opportunity): Willem Dafoe, Alfred Molina, Ben Kingsley, Thomas Hayden Church. Nothing against Michael Clark Duncan but he isnt in that league.

But who else is there though? How many big fat guys can act? I mean, John Goodman is getting pretty old.

[venomvsspidey]

But who else is there though? How many big fat guys can act? I mean, John Goodman is getting pretty old.


duncan's not fat.. :huh::huh::huh:

[King of Hearts]

I'm sticking with the Spider-Man cartoons and to me The Kingpin is a REALLY BIG dude in a suit not a tall, built guy in a suit. Idk, that's just me.

I mean, find a good plump actor, stuff him with some padding and it shouldn't be too bad right?

[Venom 1988]

If anything, Duncan is a husky, big boned guy. Anyways, wouldn't mind if he was The Kingpin. However, I'm not opposed to getting someone else for the job, but who exactly? No idea :oldrazz:

[Spiderine]

I know many of you probably won't like this idea but how about Joseph Cartagena better known as Fat Joe. He has the look and who knows he probably could pull it off. I don't consider Kingpin that complex of a character. Basically a bada$$ gangster crimelord under the guise of a businessman who is very powerful.

[HughJackFan420]

Michael Clark Duncan's performance was good in DD but a horrible choice for acting. i mean come on a black Kingpin??? we might as well have a Korean Spider-Man. anyways i'm sure there is a credible good white actor they can slap some prosthetics and make up on to give him the bulk he needs to represent Kingpin. i mean look at what they did with The Blob in Wolverin XMO

[HughJackFan420]

I know many of you probably won't like this idea but how about Joseph Cartagena better known as Fat Joe. He has the look and who knows he probably could pull it off. I don't consider Kingpin that complex of a character. Basically a bada$$ gangster crimelord under the guise of a businessman who is very powerful.

i like his look it would be perfect for Kingpin but again he's a Puerto Rican/New Yorican as they call it on the east coast. his accent wouldn't match up besides Kingpin is white and his speech voice accent should all match up with his intellect which I doubt Fat Joe has.

On a side note Fat Joe is a dope MC.

[NinjaCarm]

I hate Sam Raimi.... I justed to let everyone know that.

[Spider-Fan83]

I know many of you probably won't like this idea but how about Joseph Cartagena better known as Fat Joe. He has the look and who knows he probably could pull it off. I don't consider Kingpin that complex of a character. Basically a bada$$ gangster crimelord under the guise of a businessman who is very powerful.

if you wanna go that route, i might actually suggetion, Keith Loneker (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1442287872/nm0518828)(Out of Sight, Leatherheads, Lakeview Terrace)
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1700/998ooskeithloneker002.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/998ooskeithloneker002.jpg/)
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8342/actornickpaocohen156895.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/actornickpaocohen156895.jpg/)
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5647/610xnbv.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/610xnbv.jpg/)

[Fresh Prince]

Michael Clark Duncan's performance was good in DD but a horrible choice for acting. i mean come on a black Kingpin??? we might as well have a Korean Spider-Man. anyways i'm sure there is a credible good white actor they can slap some prosthetics and make up on to give him the bulk he needs to represent Kingpin. i mean look at what they did with The Blob in Wolverin XMO

So what if he was black he was good at the role. And race is not the issue. Micheal Clark Duncan looked the part of being big and bulksky like Kingpin was.

[Spider-Fan83]

my probelm with him, had nothing to do with the "race issue" ...

I just found him to be a rather uninspirational casting pick, it seemed like kinda lazy casting on their behalf (especially at the time) as he just seemed like the go to guy for any, big, tough guy, gangster type role

[Oscorp]

if you wanna go that route, i might actually suggetion, Keith Loneker (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1442287872/nm0518828)(Out of Sight, Leatherheads, Lakeview Terrace)

He looks the part for sure! Haven't seen him in any movie yet though, so I can't judge him by his acting skills. However, he looks a little bit too unsecure for being Kingpin in those pics in my opinion, but as I said, I haven't seen him in any movie so who am I to judge? :yay:

I don't care if Kingpin would appear as black either by the way. I wouldn't complain if MCD would get the role again.

[HughJackFan420]

So what if he was black he was good at the role. And race is not the issue. Micheal Clark Duncan looked the part of being big and bulksky like Kingpin was.

yes it is the issue. that's one of the reasons Dare Devil was a horrible movie. that and the bad acting from the other actors. i mean if i put on a Capt America movie and Capt America was Japanes I'd be like WTF??? the whole point of comic book movies is trying to stay true to the comics and Dare Devil failed for several of those reasons. i have no issue w/race but when doing comic book movies it matter to the fans who are use to seeing a big huge white bald headed man for Kingpin. again they could've taken a credible white actor and thrown on some prosthetics and make up. it's not rocket science

[SpideyTheBest]

Duncan was perfect as The Kingpin. The race change didin't bother me at all.

[HughJackFan420]

i agree awesome performance by Duncan but wrong choice as far as who Kingpin is. if Duncan was white only then would it have been perfect.

[venomvsspidey]

i agree awesome performance by Duncan but wrong choice as far as who Kingpin is. if Duncan was white only then would it have been perfect.

opinion. Plain & Simple.

[American_Hobo]

I'm ok with Kingpin being in the movie.
I'm also ok with Michael Clark Duncan as Kingpin but however, they can try to look for a better guy.

[Spiderine]

I never really had a problem with MCD as Kingpin and that movie had more important problems IMO. But that's beside the point now, that was the past and that was an entirely different francise. Time to move on. If they were to introduce the character for Spiderman they need to explore new possibilities with no connections to that DD francise including MCD. I say Fat Joe or that guy Spiderfan 83 posted are viable options.

[Fresh Prince]

MCD should reprise the role as Kingpin if he was in Spiderman 4. And its about time Kingpin makes his way into the movies now anyways. So MCD for Kingpin again.

[Venom 1988]

Michael Clark Duncan's performance was good in DD but a horrible choice for acting. i mean come on a black Kingpin??? we might as well have a Korean Spider-Man. anyways i'm sure there is a credible good white actor they can slap some prosthetics and make up on to give him the bulk he needs to represent Kingpin. i mean look at what they did with The Blob in Wolverin XMO

Kingpin being black is not the same thing as Spider-Man being Korean :whatever:

[Fresh Prince]

Kingpin being black is not the same thing as Spider-Man being Korean :whatever:

:hehe::hehe::hehe:

[weezerspider]

MCD was fine for me. I honestly have no preference. They can keep him or get someone else.

[GoldGoblin]

Get a good actor and just use a fat suit to give him the look,like Ed Harris.

[Fresh Prince]

I just wanna see MCD become KP again in a better film.

[venomvsspidey]

MCD was fine for me. I honestly have no preference. They can keep him or get someone else.

I agree. 100% :woot:

[BrollySupersj]

Get a good actor and just use a fat suit to give him the look,like Ed Harris.

Or, they could use the camera tricks they used on MCD in The Green Mile, they just made him look taller and wider.

I think you're onto something with that Ed Harris buisness, I love that guy.:woot:

[webhead731]

No race offense here, but fat black guys are WAY more intimidating to me than fat white guys.

Fat black guys are usually badasses. I really wouldn't mind MCD. I liked him in Daredevil, especially the Director's Cut.

[SuperFerret]

I'd love to see MCD toss Tobey around some.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I liked him in Daredevil, especially the Director's Cut. Yeah, he was awesome in that film. His fight with Daredevil in the Directors Cut was great. :up:

[Fresh Prince]

I'd love to see MCD toss Tobey around some.

Yeah that be fun. Peter might cry afterwards.

[Oscorp]

Yeah that be fun. Peter might cry afterwards.

http://www.zetaminor.com/images/dvd_review_images/daredevil/daredevil_kingpin.jpg
"Hahahaha! You got to admit that I totally owned your butt Spider-Man! :woot:"

http://i27.tinypic.com/2gww2uq.jpg

[Joker]

My god, I never realized how funny Peter's crying face was. He looks like a duck.

[Oscorp]

Hahaha, you know, I was actually about to write 'duckface' instead of Spider-Man :D

[chamber-music]

I'm not sure how Marvel cut up the rights for certain characters considering how characters can be in multiple different titles in the comic but I bet Fox would sue Sony faster than you can say Watchmen if they put Kingpin in a Spiderman movie.

[Spider-Fan83]

I think you're onto something with that Ed Harris buisness, I love that guy.:woot:

idk, I'm sure he could actor the hell out of the role, but, I just can't picture him pulling off the fat guy look
plus isn't he kinda short, too, like 5'9ish or something

I like idea of a good actor in a fat suit, I think that could work, but, I think the actor would still have to be pretty tall, and have decent built to start with

[TheWrathOfGod]

Sam Raimi used him once before, who am I referring to?
Larry Drake.
Discussion is now over.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yeah that be fun. Peter might cry afterwards. ....

[venomvsspidey]

Yeah that be fun. Peter might cry afterwards.


i'd cry too after being tossed around like a doll. :facepalm

[Venom 1988]

Sam Raimi used him once before, who am I referring to?
Larry Drake.
Discussion is now over.

Wow I actually never thought of Larry Drake, good pick :up: :hyper:

[TheWrathOfGod]

I'know Larry Drake is awesome.
He is as much Wilson Grant Fiske as Samuel L. Jackson is (ultimate) Nick Fury.

[BrollySupersj]

What about Tobin Bell from the Saw movies? I think he could be a really intimidating Kingpin.

[venom892]

How?He resembles kingpin in no way.:huh:

[Anubis]

I don't think he knows who Kingpin is.

[webhead731]

Larry Drake is too Durant for Kingy.

I always thought Tobin Bell would make a great Vulture.

[BrollySupersj]

I don't think he knows who Kingpin is.

That directed at me?

[webhead731]

Apparently so. Some fans don't respect others' ideas. Tobin could make an interesting Kingpin. He needs more weight of course. But he is a badass. I'm not expecting Kingpin to be like 8 feet tall and wide. It's an interesting idea, saying you have no idea who Kingpin is was not necessary.

I'm sure I would have gotten the same response if I said "Heath Ledger for Joker!" back in like 2005 or something lmao.

[BrollySupersj]

How?He resembles kingpin in no way.:huh:

Neither did MCD, he's an African American for christsake. Is Kingpin black in the comics?Um...no, but he did a good job acting out the role. Tobin Bell can easily do the same.

[webhead731]

Exactly, use some camera tricks, fat suit, or just have the guy gain weight. He's a good actor and I think he could pull it off. But still, I say Tobin for Vulture.

[webhead731]

Here are some pics for you lame-o's who haven't seen SAW movies to give you guys an idea of what Tobin looks like.

http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2008_Saw_V/2008_saw_v_007.jpg

http://www.pitofhorror.com/newdesign/promo/sawIII/jigsaw&amanda.jpg

http://www.darkfocus.com/uploaded_images/saw2_jigsaw-728130.jpg

Maybe too old for Kingy? But age effects can work these days. I still say Vulture. He's such a great villain in the SAW series, he's like as interesting and creepy as Hannibal.

[chamber-music]

MCD may be African American but he was better than John Rhys-Davis as Kingpin

[Fresh Prince]

Tobin Bell be cool for Vulture.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ I guess so, but I still think Ben Kingsley is the best choice. He looks the part and is an amazing actor.

[SpideyTheBest]

^^ I guess so, but I still think Ben Kingsley is the best choice. He looks the part and is an amazing actor.

Plus, he was going to play him in Spider-Man 3 before his character was replaced by Venom.

[GoldGoblin]

Tobin Bell would make a better Silvermane.

[DACMAN]

I would like to see MCD for continuity purposes but I dont know if he is the caliber of actor that Sam would put in SM4. Look at the other actors that have worked as villains for Sam (or been offered the opportunity): Willem Dafoe, Alfred Molina, Ben Kingsley, Thomas Hayden Church. Nothing against Michael Clark Duncan but he isnt in that league.

HAHAHA! You mean in the same league as like Topher Grace. Ok.

[DACMAN]

Here are some pics for you lame-o's who haven't seen SAW movies to give you guys an idea of what Tobin looks like.

http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2008_Saw_V/2008_saw_v_007.jpg

http://www.pitofhorror.com/newdesign/promo/sawIII/jigsaw&amanda.jpg

http://www.darkfocus.com/uploaded_images/saw2_jigsaw-728130.jpg

Maybe too old for Kingy? But age effects can work these days. I still say Vulture. He's such a great villain in the SAW series, he's like as interesting and creepy as Hannibal.

Old age or no, the Kingpin is suppose to be HUGE. It's part of his character they can't ignor.

[DACMAN]

Shave his head and bingo. Wilson Fisk. Plus he has the bad guy crime boss thing already down.


http://www.aolcdn.com/getty/E/2007-03-27/73690599MA042_deborah-lin-james-gandolfini-actor.jpg

[Fresh Prince]

Dude from Sopranos. Nice! Tobin Bell be definatley be Vulture.

[venom892]

Tobin Bell would make a better Silvermane.See that casting makes more sense.

[chamber-music]

Robbie Coltrane would make a good Kingpin I think

[venomvsspidey]

Robbie Coltrane would make a good Kingpin I think


he's too busy saving hogwarts and HP. :hehe::hehe: good choice though!

[Spider-Fan83]

how about, David Morse (in a fat suit)
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2523/image1bcp.jpg

[Spiderine]

No, but Davis Morse would make a great Roderick Kingsley.

[markstrange]

http://www.wroclawska.net/galerie/galeria-padman/1.jpg
Leon Russom as Kingpin.

[Spider-Fan83]

I can see where you'd think of him, but, isn't he kinda on the short side...
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3177/18477694.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/18477694.jpg/)http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3286/prisonbreak253.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/prisonbreak253.jpg/)
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8259/dominicpurcellwentworth.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/dominicpurcellwentworth.jpg/)

[BrollySupersj]

how about, David Morse (in a fat suit)
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2523/image1bcp.jpg

Now that is not a bad idea. Not bad at all.:woot:

[markstrange]

I can see where you'd think of him, but, isn't he kinda on the short side...


I see what u mean, but I like him for it anyway. Its kind of hard to find anyone that fits Kingpins physical description. If one could come up with someone better I'd change my mind.

David Morse would be interesting, i guess, Leon Russom would be better.

[SpeterMan3]

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/SpeterMan3/dr-phil.jpg
:up:








:hehe:

[Fresh Prince]

How about Kevin Spacey.

[DACMAN]

You guys suck at casting. I'm sorry. Seriously, Dr. Phil? Really?

[3dman27]

Sam Raimi used him once before, who am I referring to?
Larry Drake.
Discussion is now over.

the shadows farley claimore as fat boy fisk? works for me

[markstrange]

Sam Raimi used him once before, who am I referring to?
Larry Drake.
Discussion is now over.

This guy?
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8950/mv5bnja0mzkxodqxml5bml5.jpg

Really?

[SpeterMan3]

You guys suck at casting. I'm sorry. Seriously, Dr. Phil? Really?
Twas a joke. Seriously. Really.
:hehe:

[SpeterMan3]

Okay, this one's only halfway a joke. How about James Avery?

[venomvsspidey]

Okay, this one's only halfway a joke. How about James Avery?
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3139/jamesaveryi.jpg

:up: NICE.

[Fresh Prince]

Kevin Spacey be a great Kingpin.

[markstrange]

Larry Drake as kingpin: The more I think about it the more I like it. It also seems like something Sam Raimi would do.

[Spider-ManHero12]

This guy?
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8950/mv5bnja0mzkxodqxml5bml5.jpg

Really? He somewhat has the face for it.

[Fresh Prince]

Ray Wise as Kingpin.

[Spider-Fan83]

You guys suck at casting. I'm sorry. Seriously, Dr. Phil? Really?
ya, come on, if any talk show host should be kingpin its...
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5117/wilkos.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/wilkos.jpg/)





:hehe:

[Fresh Prince]

Can Steve Wilkos even act?

[Spider-Fan83]

:facepalm

[Spiderine]

Fat Joe for Kingpin.

[3dman27]

ya, come on, if any talk show host should be kingpin its...
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5117/wilkos.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/wilkos.jpg/)





:hehe:

steve,steve,steve

[markstrange]

I HATE that guy! :cmad: Jerry springer too! the both of them need to go jump from a skyscraper into the worlds largest pile of dung. The pile of dung reaching the top of the building of course, so that the have to sink all the way to the bottom....very, very, very slowly!

[Fresh Prince]

Anthony Anderson for Kingpin.

[markstrange]

No to Anthony Anderson as the Kingpin, but I like him, he needs to be in the movie.

[Fresh Prince]

Anthony Anderson would play who then?

[markstrange]

Tom Selleck as kraven the hunter... LOL

[Fresh Prince]

Tom Selleck be a great Kraven.

[Spider-Fan83]

Anthony Anderson would play who then?
maybe alil too old, but, I might suggetion him for Randy Robertson
though, they did make Robbie older (and kinda heavy set) so, I could almost see him passing as his son

[Fresh Prince]

Anthony Anderson could play Rhino.

[markstrange]

I'd be okay with that ^

[BrollySupersj]

Anthony Anderson could play Rhino.

Anthony Anderson shouldn't be anyone from Spider-Man.

[Venom 1988]

Tom Selleck be a great Kraven.

Anthony Anderson could play Rhino.

I'm just curious but....is there something wrong with you? :huh:

[venomvsspidey]

Anthony Anderson could play Rhino.

just stop...please..

[markstrange]

I don't like Rhino. So for me, No to Rhino in any spider-man film. I mean, if I want to see someone bash there head into things I'll re-watch X-Men: The Last Stand. Anthony Anderson would at least make the character worth watching. That being said I probably would not complain that Rhino was in it... as long as hes not a main villain.

I've been thinking about venom in the Spider-Man movies. Is he dead? If not then is he going to mix with the Cletus Kasady and become Carnage rather then have Carnage be a different symbiote all together?

[Eddie Dean]

Brendan Gleeson...

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1497/gleesonchurchhill.jpg

[Oscorp]

EDIT: nvm

[HughJackFan420]

they just need a great slightly younger then mid-age WHITE actor and slap on the necessary prosthetics to give him the Kingpin bulk and it would work.

[Fresh Prince]

just stop...please..

It was a joke lighten the hell up will ya.

[Fresh Prince]

I don't like Rhino. So for me, No to Rhino in any spider-man film. I mean, if I want to see someone bash there head into things I'll re-watch X-Men: The Last Stand. Anthony Anderson would at least make the character worth watching. That being said I probably would not complain that Rhino was in it... as long as hes not a main villain.

I've been thinking about venom in the Spider-Man movies. Is he dead? If not then is he going to mix with the Cletus Kasady and become Carnage rather then have Carnage be a different symbiote all together?

Agreed, he is funny and has charisma. And Rhino could just be used as an opening movie villian similar to Scarecrow from The Dark Knight.

Rhino casuing destruction down town and Spiderman has to go and stop him. Be a good short fight with Spidey coming out the victor and Rhino going to jail.

[Adrian89]

Anthony Anderson does some funny $h!t, but with him as Kingpin or Rhino, I wouldn't be able to take the movie seriously haha.

[venomvsspidey]

It was a joke lighten the hell up will ya.

we will go with that.

[Spider-Fan83]

this is going to probably sound like a pretty crazy idea, and thought he's kinda (ok, maybe more then kinda) old, now
but, what about....

...John Lithgow
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6074/image1nm.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/image1nm.jpg/)

[CalebYourMaster]

Brendan Gleeson...

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1497/gleesonchurchhill.jpg
heck yes.
great actor for the role.

[Sawyer]

I wish they would worry about putting Kingpin in Daredevil before SP4 but If he was going to be in it. I say Ray Winestone

:up:

[Rodrigo90]

I want Derek Mears to play him.

[willemjoker]

Maury Chaykin would be my pick

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5c/Chaykin-Wolfe-1.jpg
http://www.nerowolfe.org/nwm/nwm_cast/image/MC.jpg

[Rodrigo90]

http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/derek-mears_new-jason.jpg

[Joker831]

James Gandolfini is perfect for this role. He is such an underrated actor, not just capable of playing wiseguy's/hitmen, but definitly one of his area's. HIs work on The Sopranos is widely acclaimed...and again not just for the mob stuff, his struggles with his family and whatnot. He has a movie coming out that some say he may take best actor oscar home for called "Welcome to The Riley's". Not to mention he will be playing Ernest Hemmingway in 2010. I think he'd make a great Kingpin and be a good addition to this big time movie.

http://img1.tvloop.com/img/showpics/e7/9d/l343b97880000_2_27773.jpg
http://www.moviesharkdeblore.com/assets/images/James_Gandolfini.jpg
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/startracks/070305/james_gandolfini.jpg


If not him, Brendan Gleeson was a great suggestion on here. Another fantastic actor.

[BrollySupersj]

Alot of good suggestions in this thread, I like the idea of James Gandolfini.

[The Flea]

Although I like the Suggestions of Drake and Gleeson, I feel they may be too old to pull off the part.

I wouldn't want to go with a fat suit either, just isn't convincing enough.

I do like the Gandolfini suggestion. He's a bigger guy and already has played that type of role before.

I was trying to think of bigger body sized good actors and all I got was Philip Seymour Hoffman. He's a good actor and showed he can pull off a villain in MI3, but he does kinda look a bit dorky and would have to work on the body type a bit more. What you guys think?

[The Flea]

jack nicholson?