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dark_b
11-17-2009, 06:33 AM
Remember when Bradley Cooper doing A-Team got leaked? What happened with someone put a camera in his face and asked him about it? He lied his ass off.

Again, McAdams could certainly be telling the truth and I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt. But...actors do lie, folks.true.

for all the Mcadams fans. be happy that she didnt say that she was testing. because then it would be over for her.

Showtime
11-17-2009, 12:08 PM
http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/11/16/spider-man-4-rachel-mcadams-shoots-down-casting-rumor/

How can that be. We had an insider giving us info. From this very thread:

on november 3, i made a post that official news will be coming and before that alot of gossip, news and rumors about the fourth spider-man and I even gave a HUGE hint a few days before the news of racheal mcadams ( well known actress auditioning for a role as felicia ) on the drag me to hell effects thread. I am sorry that I couldnt openly blab it out so that I can prove anything but, it was STILL THERE DAYS BEFORE the news broke out. Thats as far as I was going to go and even making reference to a cat coming out of the bag. within the past 6 days and even other websites are starting to mention that there has been ALOT of commotion going on about the fourth film LATELY, not before. ohh and as far as pissing people off, I really dont care because I will stand up for the people that I work with and it's pissing people off that I wasnt full of it so they closed the thread once my point was proven. I dont care what anyone says, you wanted news you got it in SIX DAYS and I left a hint about it. Steve from countingdown was also right and some mod on here said that listening to him was a mistake when he was right on the money about hearing news. Face it pal, the black cat is all over the web now and remember that I stated WELL KNOWN ACTRESS and racheal my friend is a very well known actress. You wanted proof and answers now your getting them, ENJOY IT. You still think im full of it then fine whatever I did the best I can to post every time things were getting hectic with news gossip and rumors until finally the cat came out of the bag and its only time for the official word. I always tell people to wait for the offical word because you never know with hollywood nowadays and thier fabrications to hide the truth.

Also whats this stuff about spider-man 3 having 3 villains when there was actually 4. Black suited spider, Venom, sandman, and new goblin. So technically if there could be three for part 4. Also, when was james franco announced as a villain during the time that we all were focusing on black suited spidey, venom, and sandman ? Point being, there was no point for an annoucement because he was already part of the cast. keep that one in mind and dont count the lizard out. It all depends on the studio because they call the shots. Just like the majority blamed sam for the green goblin power ranger suit, when it was in fact willem dafoe who rejected the other designs. Then again everyone will blame sam if things dont work out your way.

well since the official news thread got closed I was going to say, read between the lines and notice the date was a few days before the cat came out of the bag. Today is the 9th where the news came out and I posted this on the 7th. I couldnt admit to it cause I would have gotten in trouble but, I was hoping that someone would have figured it out. Also I did twist a little lie there cause you cant find the well known actress audioning for the role of feclicia anywhere, I just couldnt admit it was from me :) So how does everyone feel about racheal mcadams ? ohh and rocco you had me there with alison lohman and the whole well known aspect of it, I had to improvise there lol


because they finally realized that I wasnt full of it and decided to smack themselves silly instead of an apology for putting me down when I WAS RIGHT ON TARGET!

Its funny on how they are posting news about it now... ohh wait a minute was that official im sorry at this point actually news that just came out on the hype or did I use up my nine lives lol

Feels like old times on when people doubted me for that pic of eddie brock and that i photoshopped it but, that was much worse than what I had to put up with on here at least some people believed me.

geez I guess the websites above and many others out there are not legit...

Sorry but, I tried to give out a hint days before the black cat news was out on the drag me to hell thread. If you know of any rumors about a well known actress trying to audition for the role of felicia out there on the web then please let me know. I also tried telling everyone to keep thier eyes peeled on the news, gossip, and rumors and it's been occuring ALOT lately. I am very sorry that I cannot go any further than that and im also sorry if I ticked anyone off but, you have no idea on how difficult this has been for me when I come on here and people are bashing the people that I have worked with and looked up to when they dont know the full story to it on how things really work out there even when I tried to explain things. I already learned my lesson that no matter how hard I try to convince some people, they are just too damn stubborn and for those of you who trusted me, thanks. I dont understand why every one on here get so touchy when it comes to things like this because I always encourage those to wait for the official word but being on this forum has been the worst experience. I used to be a whiny fan boy that just complained on how they ruined my childhood heroes but, after understanding how things really work I grew nothing but respect for those people in the industry that I would at least be thankful to be able to see the characters come to life on the big screen and that things can always be worse. I trust in sam raimi for spider-man 4 and I hope that many of you decide to give him a chance and just do your research before assuming and putting the blame on the wrong people when it's indeed the studios that have the FINAL say with every thing and not the director.

yeah and stan lee is getting two liners for the next one... give me a break we all knew dylan could return and the same with bruce thats NOTHING NEW compared to an actual villain... not everyone could have predicted that the black cat ( out of all of the spider-man villains ) was going to be in the fourth film. If I said a hunter or a doctor and the black cat came up then I would have been wrong. I gave you something and its not my fault if you didnt pick up on the hints DAYS before it happened. Also people asked for proof and I gave it to them because I have nothing to hide now its being turned around on me for providing proof. twisting my words around like 3 to 4 years instead of the 3 to 4 months, then saying that I stated 10 days or after thanksgiving when I said it MORE THAN A MILLION TIMES THAT STEVE FROM COUNTINGDOWN SAID THAT ! NOT ME. YOU ALL GOT YOUR PRECIOUS NEWS THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING TO BE EXPECTED WITHIN SIX FRIGGIN DAYS, SMILE AND BE FRIGGIN HAPPY ABOUT IT ALREADY ! GEEZ...

Today from that other site:

Originally Posted by IcEXMaNuSa
im getting some weird news here, it seems that rachel being the top contender for the black cat was false. I dont know if thats accurate yet but, one of my co-workers is hearing that her reps are saying that she never intended to be in the film at all. Anyone here about this as well ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by rocco2216
Who was never intended to be in the film? Rachel McAdams? or Black Cat?

Quote:
Originally Posted by IcEXMaNuSa
I just posted the news, rachel was never intended for spidey 4. The other actress did confirm the strong lead role though and that she might not get it. It's a well know actress though just wasnt rachel.
:dry:

Don't believe everything you read or hear. Mcadams might very well end up being Black Cat, and the character could very well be in the film, but don't be fooled by imitations.

DerSpider-Boy
11-17-2009, 12:20 PM
That guy simply was a psycho...

FilmNerdJamie
11-17-2009, 01:05 PM
You losers need a reality check. He's been right about everything so far! :cmad:

Seriously though, isn't it a weird "coincidence" that his "sources" told him McAdams wasn't the top contender after she publicly denied being involved. Weird, huh?

Spider-Fan
11-17-2009, 01:59 PM
I'm encouraged that this is getting denied, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. It just might mean nothing is official and their trying to wait til it becomes official before confirming.

However, if this BC in SM4 thing turns out to be false...WOOHOO!!! I'm happy :up:

ross2287
11-17-2009, 02:52 PM
Did any of you honestly think Black Cat was going to be in this? And did any of you honestly think McAdams was going to play her?

Honestly?

Dark_Lord
11-17-2009, 03:02 PM
Did any of you honestly think Black Cat was going to be in this? And did any of you honestly think McAdams was going to play her?

Honestly?

Just because McAdams isn't playing Black Cat, doesn't mean she (Black Cat) won't be in it. Wasn't Black Cat going to be in Spider-Man 2 at some point?

omid17
11-17-2009, 03:33 PM
I'm encouraged that this is getting denied, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. It just might mean nothing is official and their trying to wait til it becomes official before confirming.

However, if this BC in SM4 thing turns out to be false...WOOHOO!!! I'm happy :up:agreed

Did any of you honestly think Black Cat was going to be in this? And did any of you honestly think McAdams was going to play her?

Honestly?the British chick confirmed that she auditioned for the role so... but i hope we don't see BC in SM4

Scarlet Spider
11-17-2009, 03:50 PM
Just because McAdams isn't playing Black Cat, doesn't mean she (Black Cat) won't be in it. Wasn't Black Cat going to be in Spider-Man 2 at some point?

Yeah, Black Cat was featured in early drafts of Spider-Man 2.

Michael Chabon mentioned that when he was hired, the script that they had at the time had (along with Doc Ock) Black Cat, The Lizard, and Harry as the new Goblin.

LI_v2Q0-ai8

FilmNerdJamie
11-17-2009, 04:08 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Julia Stiles in Talks for Spider-Man 4
Posted by Matt Patches at 1:57 PM

UGO has learned that Julia Stiles has met with a casting company in New York to discuss the upcoming Spider-Man 4!

This makes sense based on the recently debunked rumor that Rachel McAdams was set to star. Could this mean we'll be seeing the Black Cat saving Spidey's last dance? We haven't heard specifics about which role she was eyeing and assume it's all early talks, but why not?

More after the jump!

Personally, she'd be a great fit. Stiles is an underrated actress and unlike McAdams (who's about to star in the upcoming Sherlock Holmes), hasn't had a leading lady role in a franchise film. Yeah, we saw her in Bourne, but playing Black Cat would get her out from behind a computer screen and bouncing across building tops!

http://movieblog.ugo.com/movies/exclusive-julia-stiles-in-talks-for-spider-man-4

I'm sure our psycho ex-poster will claim "he knew this the whole time" :whatever:

Showtime
11-17-2009, 05:22 PM
http://movieblog.ugo.com/movies/exclusive-julia-stiles-in-talks-for-spider-man-4

I'm sure our psycho ex-poster will claim "he knew this the whole time" :whatever:

Of course he will. "See! This is the big actress I was talking about!" "I told you!"

It is all rather funny.

FilmNerdJamie
11-17-2009, 05:26 PM
"Outscooped" yet again, eh?

Changeling
11-17-2009, 05:38 PM
Whoa sweet

Spider-ManHero12
11-17-2009, 05:58 PM
^^ Agreed! She's another really good choice, if you ask me. :up:

DerSpider-Boy
11-17-2009, 06:08 PM
^^ Agreed! She's another really good choice, if you ask me. :up:

I'm not sure... I don't like her... her face, her eyes... they're weird.. :dry:

Fresh Prince
11-17-2009, 06:11 PM
http://movieblog.ugo.com/movies/exclusive-julia-stiles-in-talks-for-spider-man-4

I'm sure our psycho ex-poster will claim "he knew this the whole time" :whatever:

Julia Stilles????

Sebastos
11-17-2009, 06:14 PM
I like Julia, I don't see her as Black Cat though.

david icke
11-17-2009, 06:17 PM
No chance Julia Stilles is the up for the black cat, she is not the 'bouncing across rooftops' type. My guess is she'll be up for some boring official type that is linked to the Bugle, and it's takeover if that rumour is true. Whatever, she will be shuffling papers in an office not her ass in a cat-suit.

edit: Liz Banks said earlier in the year that she would not be returning as Betty Brant if she did not get a bigger role. Perhaps Julia Stilles will be playing JJJ's new secretary.
I would prefer Liz Banks back, but she has not been announced yet as coming back, and i just saw her in a hairdo advert, she has moved onto a bigger role in hair products, she don't do wigs anymore.

I_am_iron_man
11-17-2009, 06:24 PM
I like Julia, I don't see her as Black Cat though.

Rachel McAdams...Julia Stiles...Ok, all beautiful chicks. But Black Cat has big boobs. Really. Boys, i'm not perverted. But MJ has big boobs in comics and Kirsten Dunst no, and ok...We pass. Now Black Cat has really big boobs and the only two names who comes out are McAdams and Julia Stiles, two beautiful chicks with no-boobs?

:doh:

Sorry, dudes. I'm not perverted, i'm only think that Raimi hate boobs instead Venom and Carnage.

david icke
11-17-2009, 06:38 PM
Rachel McAdams...Julia Stiles...Ok, all beautiful chicks. But Black Cat has big boobs. Really. Boys, i'm not perverted. But MJ has big boobs in comics and Kirsten Dunst no, and ok...We pass. Now Black Cat has really big boobs and the only two names who comes out are McAdams and Julia Stiles, two beautiful chicks with no-boobs?

:doh:

Sorry, dudes. I'm not perverted, i'm only think that Raimi hate boobs instead Venom and Carnage.

Sam Raimi loves boobs, going by some of the extras he has cast in the movies.
It's just that he favours acting over boob size.
The extras spent all their money on boob jobs while the others spent their hard earned money on acting lessons.

I am perverted, i have thought long and hard about this.

anyway, who cares, the acting is what is important, but BC has to be very good looking, big boobs are a bonus.

[A]
11-17-2009, 06:42 PM
Sam Raimi loves boobs, going by some of the extras he has cast in the moviesOh yes.. the stupid cleavage shots I hate so much. The only moment in the Spider-Man movies I go :facepalm:

I_am_iron_man
11-17-2009, 06:45 PM
Seriously if they will go with Black Cat...They must cast the real Black Cat:

http://chud.com/articles/content_images/5/diorabaird.jpg

X-Maniac
11-17-2009, 06:49 PM
So much speculation, these lovely interwebs...

Romola Garai said she had done an audition but was among hundreds of actors and actresses who put themselves on tape, and she said the role was never specified.

At this point, all that's known is that there have been what sounds like open auditions for people to put themselves forward for consideration.

As for McAdam, it has a suspicious smell about it and sounds more like fanboy wish-casting.

Rather like that 'Brian Blessed is Odin' nonsense that at least one major site reported as gospel truth (and even put it on wikipedia) when it turned out to be poop.

Heyparker
11-17-2009, 07:34 PM
I really like Julia Stiles. Great actress who takes her work seriously. I wish she would've been cast as Mary Jane from the beginning. I'm not incredibly high on Black Cat and the character. I do think she's different than catwoman in terms of motivation and intentions.For these movies though, I'd rather see Spidey go up against a guy. Spidey can't punch a woman! (Although MJ felt the wrath of symbiote peter) Vulture or Lizard! Come on! I'll even go for Peter-MJ romance if done well. Come on...Spidey 2 was loved by all and had romance.
But IF BC HAS to be in the film, Stiles or Mcadams...excellent choices.

FaT_tONle
11-17-2009, 07:39 PM
I agree with the previous poster that she is probably replacing Betty Brant. Wouldn't be suprised if it's a recast all together. BC doesn't fit the bill for her.

Sebastos
11-17-2009, 07:53 PM
So Julia would be replacing Banks is what you're thinking?

venom892
11-17-2009, 08:14 PM
Well I Remember correctly banks said she wouldn't return unless her role was bigger.

Sebastos
11-17-2009, 08:15 PM
Really? I didn't know.

Van Petrol
11-17-2009, 08:40 PM
Well I Remember correctly banks said she wouldn't return unless her role was bigger.

If this is the case, then I can't see why Julia Stiles would be interested in it. It's got to be for a more substantial role IMO.

FaT_tONle
11-17-2009, 09:24 PM
Maybe it will be... maybe she will be a Banks type (daughter of the new Bugle guy or whatever) but transform into BC later on (and probably stink up the role IMO) or maybe she will be part of a love triangle but not be Felecia.

petey
11-17-2009, 09:29 PM
What if they are recasting Gwen Stacy.

Spider-ManHero12
11-17-2009, 09:37 PM
I'm not sure... I don't like her... her face, her eyes... they're weird.. :dry: I don't know why, but the way you said that made me laugh, lol.

Spider-ManHero12
11-17-2009, 09:38 PM
edit

Van Petrol
11-17-2009, 09:54 PM
What if they are recasting Gwen Stacy.

Can't think why, if that were to be the case. :huh:

craigdbfan
11-17-2009, 10:09 PM
Julia Stiles face bothers me. Absolutely no to her.

Better be another BS rumor.

cerealkiller182
11-17-2009, 10:46 PM
http://upload.moldova.org/movie/actors/a/amber_heard/thumbnails/tn2_amber_heard_3.jpg

I kinda like Amber Heard for the role. I think she has the appeal of the Hollywood young girls like Megan Fox (not the popularity just the same appeal, spunky sexpot Maxim cover girl kinda thing) but has the acting potential over all those other girls, she has promise to be like the finer young actresses out there like Evan Rachel Wood and Olivia Thirlby. A nice balance.

Sebastos
11-17-2009, 10:52 PM
I wouldn't mind Amber.

[A]
11-17-2009, 10:59 PM
Oh Amber, Amber..

craigdbfan
11-17-2009, 11:46 PM
Diora Baird is my dream actress for the role but like many have noted its a very fanboyish pick. Nonetheless the woman is smoking hot.

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss311/subliminal633/diora-baird.jpg

I approve of Amber Heard too. She has appeal and is a good actress on top of that.

omid17
11-18-2009, 12:50 AM
Julia Stiles :barf:

louiebling$
11-18-2009, 01:39 AM
Diora Baird is my dream actress for the role but like many have noted its a very fanboyish pick. Nonetheless the woman is smoking hot.

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss311/subliminal633/diora-baird.jpg

I approve of Amber Heard too. She has appeal and is a good actress on top of that.
:heart:

omid17
11-18-2009, 01:45 AM
The Five: Actresses Who Should Play Black Cat in 'Spider-Man 4'

http://www.fandango.com/movieblog/five-actresses-who-should-play-black-cat-in-spiderman-4-585581.html?wss=twitter&snid=main

Megan Fox – I already mentioned Fox in my previous post, but I'll throw her name at this again because I think she'd make for a perfect Black Cat, capable of pulling off the unassuming cute girl next door thing before transforming into a sneaky, sexy, slithering villain in a matter of seconds.
Chances of Her Becoming Black Cat: 30% (she's too obvious)

Eva Green – She sort of dropped off the planet after sizzling up the screen as a Bond girl in Casino Royale, but Spider-Man 4 could be a chance for Eva Green to finally make her big-budgeted return and solidify her blockbuster status. She certainly has the curves and enough black hair to play a character named Black Cat, not to mention the perfect sinister persona. And hey, if you've seen The Golden Compass, you'll know this gal is perfectly capable of flying through the air. Spider-Man will definitely have his hands full.
Chances of Her Becoming Black Cat: 60% (here's hoping they let her audition)

Emily Blunt – You've seen her heat up the screen in films like The Devil Wears Prada, Sunshine Cleaning and Charlie Wilson's War, and she'll soon be starring in the buzzed-about Young Victoria, as well as next year's The Wolfman – but in my opinion it's about time Emily Blunt nabs a role in a big-time superhero movie if only to prove that she's got the chops to become The Next Big Thing. The perfect villainous? I think so.
Chances of Her Becoming Black Cat: 50% (with four upcoming films on her plate, it might be hard to squeeze this one in)

Kristen Bell – She's cute and petite and not all that scary, which is why I think Kristen Bell should be given the chance to finally spread her wings and play something other than "cutesy girlfriend" type. Sure, she'd look good as Peter Parker's new love interest, but in order to embody the perfect villain, you have to become the person they'd least expect. Ya know, like Kristen Bell – who would expect this gal to show up dressed as a Black Cat ready to kick some ass and take names later?
Chances of Her Becoming Black Cat: 70% (if she's willing to go from blonde to brunette, I could definitely see it)

Kristen Stewart – Why not, right? If there's one problem with Stewart, it's that she always plays these angsty, emotionally scarred teenagers who need therapy more than they need a vampire boyfriend. So wouldn't it be great to see her throw on a costume and serve Spider-Man a taste of his own medicine?
Chances of Her Becoming Black Cat: 20% (she'll probably be too busy filming more Twilight movies like Breaking Dawn, which may begin production this summer)

DerSpider-Boy
11-18-2009, 01:52 AM
The Five: Actresses Who Should Play Black Cat in 'Spider-Man 4'

http://www.fandango.com/movieblog/five-actresses-who-should-play-black-cat-in-spiderman-4-585581.html?wss=twitter&snid=main

Who says that Felicia/Black Cat is a brunette??? :huh:
Felicia is blonde, Black Cat has white hair... so no brunette at all...

omid17
11-18-2009, 01:58 AM
that's what i thought

I_am_iron_man
11-18-2009, 04:24 AM
Who says that Felicia/Black Cat is a brunette??? :huh:
Felicia is blonde, Black Cat has white hair... so no brunette at all...

AH, the stupid articles! :awesome:

Really. I seriously hope Gwen's come back. In the third one Dallas Howard is hot, really hot. Maybe, yes, there will be a recast of some char. Maybe Betty Brant or (:doh:) Gwen.

But if they explain in the movie that Betty is go away from Daily Bugle and they call Felicia, i'm not unhappy at all. The important is:
1. Felicia is not a villain. Maybe she can transforms herself in Black Cat but not really a villain. I always hope in Kraven+ Lizard, maybe Vulture.
2. Black Cat appears only in the end. Maybe she can helps Parker in the end.

GoldGoblin
11-18-2009, 04:59 AM
Sounds like they could be auditioning for Dr.Connor's wife.

david icke
11-18-2009, 06:38 AM
The Five: Actresses Who Should Play Black Cat in 'Spider-Man 4'

http://www.fandango.com/movieblog/five-actresses-who-should-play-black-cat-in-spiderman-4-585581.html?wss=twitter&snid=main

The description of Kristen Bell's career on this article suggests the writer does not know who she is at all.
She is apparently known for playing 'cutesy girlfriend types'?! And is the person you'd least expect in the role?
She played a pretty good supervillan over in Heroes, and before that was a take no bs, smart, v funny detective in Veronica Mars. She would be perfect for Black Cat.

FaT_tONle
11-18-2009, 10:23 AM
What if they are recasting Gwen Stacy.

I can see that as well. But I think Sony will be hesitant to recast a supporting role like that. I can see Banks being replaced because her role is not as significant.

HughJackFan420
11-18-2009, 11:35 AM
Sounds like they could be auditioning for Dr.Connor's wife.


i was gonna say the same thing but way to think outside the box

DACMAN
11-18-2009, 11:45 AM
The description of Kristen Bell's career on this article suggests the writer does not know who she is at all.
She is apparently known for playing 'cutesy girlfriend types'?! And is the person you'd least expect in the role?
She played a pretty good supervillan over in Heroes, and before that was a take no bs, smart, v funny detective in Veronica Mars. She would be perfect for Black Cat.

I was ready to hate her, but she looks ok for the role. I still think our best bet is with McAdams. She is the best actress out of all the ones we've seen so far.

david icke
11-18-2009, 06:43 PM
I was ready to hate her, but she looks ok for the role. I still think our best bet is with McAdams. She is the best actress out of all the ones we've seen so far.

I would be happy with either of them. I really like RMcA in red eye. I have seen Mean Girls, but a while ago, didn't click it was the same woman.
It depends on what they do with the Black Cat though in what strengths are needed for the role, but both could do the role i imagine, i am more familiar with KB's work though, so can see her immediately in my mind's eye.
If they hopefully have BC trying to tempt Spidey into being more care free, or just to embrace his Spider-man id instead of plain old Pete(in her eyes), I can imagine KB being devilishly persuasive in that role. She can flip into many different personas to get what she wants in Veronica Mars.
That's why i'm hoping those rumours of her going after spidey as the BC are untrue, her being a novice in the ways of the costumed persona, going after spidey as revenge, does not leave much room for what i always thought was the interesting dynamic of their relationship. That of the costumed ID being the only thing of interest to her.

Sebastos
11-18-2009, 08:01 PM
Maybe it's not Black Cat at all, it could just be for the role of Dr. Connors wife. Who knows, time will tell.

zeptron
11-18-2009, 08:03 PM
Whoever plays Connors' wife should at least be in 40s. The women that we've heard auditioning for this role are in their late 20s/early 30s.

FilmNerdJamie
11-18-2009, 08:25 PM
Anne Hathaway Wanted For 'Spider-Man 4'
By Nikki Finke
Wednesday November 18, 2009 @ 5:03pm

EXCLUSIVE: You know I'm insecure about my geek bonafides which I've been trying to improve in recent years. (Heck, I grew up never reading a single comic book. But I'm aware that the Internet has been afloat with Spider-Man 4 casting rumors in recent days. While Sony Pictures insists no decisions have been made, sources tell me that the producers have approached Anne Hathaway to star in the film. Maybe you experts have an idea what she'll play? All I know is that she's wanted for a starring role, and she won't replace Kirsten Dunst who's also cast in the Spidey fourquel.

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/anne-hathaway-wanted-for-spider-man-4/

Too bad our favorite psycho ex-poster didn't call this with his "sources." :hehe:

DACMAN
11-18-2009, 09:16 PM
Maybe it's not Black Cat at all, it could just be for the role of Dr. Connors wife. Who knows, time will tell.

But a staring role?

DACMAN
11-18-2009, 09:17 PM
Who says that Felicia/Black Cat is a brunette??? :huh:
Felicia is blonde, Black Cat has white hair... so no brunette at all...

Everyone of those picks are terrible.

Chewy
11-18-2009, 09:28 PM
Exclusive scoop: Anne Hathaway will play "Valeria" in the next SPIDERMAN.
SOURCE (http://twitter.com/MovieScoop)

This is from almost a day ago from the twitter of Movie Scoop, who recently scooped two of Thor's Warriors Three castings days before Variety

zeptron
11-18-2009, 09:37 PM
You know with all these women rumored for this movie I'm surprised Megan Fox wasn't one of them. I guess it could show that Sony won't stoop to Fox's level, by hiring someone with a pretty face just to pull in horny 14 year olds boys.

Sebastos
11-18-2009, 09:39 PM
But a staring role?

At this point, I really don't know. :o

Spider-ManHero12
11-18-2009, 10:06 PM
SOURCE (http://twitter.com/MovieScoop)

This is from almost a day ago from the twitter of Movie Scoop, who recently scooped two of Thor's Warriors Three castings days before Variety Wow, I didn't expect her to audition. Interesting, if you ask me.

omid17
11-18-2009, 10:07 PM
i can't see her as a blonde

Spider-ManHero12
11-18-2009, 10:18 PM
^^ It's tough for me as well, but it might work. Can someone do a manip?

zeptron
11-18-2009, 10:19 PM
i can't see her as a blonde

*clears throat*

http://i28.tinypic.com/303dyrl.jpg

craigdbfan
11-18-2009, 10:19 PM
No to Hathaway. Better Emily Blunt than her.

Scarlet Spider
11-18-2009, 10:20 PM
SOURCE (http://twitter.com/MovieScoop)

This is from almost a day ago from the twitter of Movie Scoop, who recently scooped two of Thor's Warriors Three castings days before Variety

Valeria?

[A]
11-18-2009, 10:20 PM
Gah.. that's one ugly picture. I like the little rat though.

craigdbfan
11-18-2009, 10:21 PM
;17739363']Gah.. that's one ugly picture. I like the little rat though.

:lmao:

That just made me crack up.

omid17
11-18-2009, 10:23 PM
the rat looks better than her

[A]
11-18-2009, 10:26 PM
:funny: true

craigdbfan
11-18-2009, 10:28 PM
Whats up with all the butter face picks (for the exception of McAdams). Someone just call up Diora Baird and give her the role already.

Sebastos
11-18-2009, 10:35 PM
As hot as Diora is I don't see her getting the role.

FilmNerdJamie
11-18-2009, 10:47 PM
Of course he will. "See! This is the big actress I was talking about!" "I told you!"

It is all rather funny.

Case in point.

more names added to the mix and for the record, I was told " Well Known Actress " so you morons at the hype knock it off with the stupidity comments and get over yourselves already. You got your stupid news, gossip, and rumors coming out like I said would happen, what more do you want ?

It's like you can see into the future, dude. Weird. Oh I forgot we're all just jealous we're not whiny fanboys who dress up as Spider-Man in public and then claim to be an "insider" because you took a picture with Adam West or Bruce Campbell. I mean he's been right the whole time and all. :hehe:

Too bad he can't come in here and gloat about his "accuracy."

Dr. Evil
11-19-2009, 12:24 AM
About the Anne Hathaway rumor:

Except for an Animated movie, she has nothing definite in the works after she's done shooting "Love and Other Drugs." It would fit in as her next project after that, but it also likely delays shooting of Get Smart 2 for a few months.

FaT_tONle
11-19-2009, 12:30 AM
I get the feeling this Valeria character will be a Lois Lane ripoff.

GoldGoblin
11-19-2009, 12:32 AM
Valeria?

^
Sounds like Dr.Connors will have a daughter.

JeanVitchier
11-19-2009, 02:42 AM
What are Black Cat's powers in the comics? How would she get her powers in the movie? A freak accident in a science lab?

omid17
11-19-2009, 03:08 AM
no i don't believe she has any superpowers, she's just acrobatic and and strong figher from what i read

JeanVitchier
11-19-2009, 03:15 AM
no i don't believe she has any superpowers, she's just acrobatic and and strong figher from what i read

Is Black Cat a villain in the comics? If she is, then how could she fight Spidey with all his superhuman powers. She doesn't stand a chance, kinda lame.

mre
11-19-2009, 03:37 AM
She causes bad luck to all that cross her path.

mre
11-19-2009, 03:40 AM
SOURCE (http://twitter.com/MovieScoop)

This is from almost a day ago from the twitter of Movie Scoop, who recently scooped two of Thor's Warriors Three castings days before Variety

Twitter as a source???

Rodrigo90
11-19-2009, 05:24 AM
http://www.topnews.in/light/files/anne-hathaway.jpg
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7P4SeqyJvNo/SexxhUTEF2I/AAAAAAAAALo/jues_FJRurE/s400/032106_rachel_mcadams300.jpg
Meh

http://www.meandisis.com/photos/diora_baird_maxim_mag_01.jpg
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

I_am_iron_man
11-19-2009, 05:27 AM
Valeria?

Mmmm. :huh:

Moviescoop in the past has launched the rumors (truth) of Ray Stevenson and Stuart Townsend in Thor. Now, some hours before Finke, launched the rumors of Hathaway in Spidey 4. In the role of Valeria. She's the Connors' wife?

UnionJack
11-19-2009, 05:36 AM
sooooo we've got a fugly MJ and now were gonna get a flat chested Black Cat, urg someone needs to give Raimi his meds.

The only decent casting we've had for a girl is Gwen but they used her in an awful way so we won't be seeing her back again.

Not loving SM4 at all so far.

Elisha Cuthbert would be an ideal Black Cat but they won't look at her I guess.

ThatDamnNinja
11-19-2009, 05:46 AM
http://www.topnews.in/light/files/anne-hathaway.jpg
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7P4SeqyJvNo/SexxhUTEF2I/AAAAAAAAALo/jues_FJRurE/s400/032106_rachel_mcadams300.jpg
Meh

http://www.meandisis.com/photos/diora_baird_maxim_mag_01.jpg
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

You should be a film director. You clearly know it takes to cast a major motion picture. "Oscar nomination? BLEEECH. A variety of starring roles showing range and talent? Ehhhh... Some hot girl from Maxim? YES! CAST HER NOW."

I hate, hate, hate this fanboy casting. Can everyone please think with something other than their c**k? When people are earnestly considering the size of an actresses breast as a top priority for her ability to play Black Cat, we're looking at the bottom of the barrel. :wall:

ThatDamnNinja
11-19-2009, 05:50 AM
sooooo we've got a fugly MJ and now were gonna get a flat chested Black Cat, urg someone needs to give Raimi his meds.

The only decent casting we've had for a girl is Gwen but they used her in an awful way so we won't be seeing her back again.

Not loving SM4 at all so far.

Elisha Cuthbert would be an ideal Black Cat but they won't look at her I guess.

If you think this is flat-chested:
http://www.topnews.in/light/files/Anne-Hathaway_1.jpg
...then you've been reading too many comic books and not looking at enough real-life women.

Rodrigo90
11-19-2009, 05:54 AM
You want the horse as Black Cat,Ninja?

craigdbfan
11-19-2009, 05:54 AM
Who says Diora can't act? In the small roles she has been in she has shown potential.

Why not give an unknown her big break. There also seems to be this preconceived notion that big breasted women automatically equal some mentally challenged bimbo.

Lets get serious here too. How great of an actress do we honestly need to play Black Cat right... :dry:

What I've seen from her she definitely has enough range to play this character.

ThatDamnNinja
11-19-2009, 06:03 AM
It has nothing to do with one actress vs. the other. Frankly, I don't care for Black Cat as a character so I don't have a whole lot of emotional investment in who plays her.

What I have a problem with is the reasoning. I guarantee that the reason you, and most people, want Diora Baird has nothing to do with her acting ability. You weren't astounding by her performance in Wedding Crashers or Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginnning.

This is the equivalent of casting a wrestler as [insert villain here]. Maybe they can do it. Maybe they have natural ability that we don't see that would come out under real direction. But there's no reason to assume it's there, and the pick has nothing to do with their acting ability.

craigdbfan
11-19-2009, 06:08 AM
I actually appreciated her performances in all the movies I've seen her in. She's not only an attractive woman but has potential in bigger roles that demand slightly more nuanced acting as well. Otherwise I wouldn't have written it in my previous post if I didn't honestly believe that.

Plus to use a recent story that a lot of movies nowadays rely less and less on familiar names and more on the concept and the way the movie is delivered.

Even writing about wanting this actress over superficialities seems hypocritical as any actress that will be picked has a certain amount of sex appeal on top of her acting.

UnionJack
11-19-2009, 06:15 AM
If you think this is flat-chested:
http://www.topnews.in/light/files/Anne-Hathaway_1.jpg
...then you've been reading too many comic books and not looking at enough real-life women.

Ok yes she has a big chest, but she doesn't look good blonde and she isn't sexy, she looks too nice.

Does Black Cat need to be a big named actress just for the sake of selling her name, not really, people know of Spider-Man enough to go see it with or without a well known actress in it.

Kirk Langstrom
11-19-2009, 08:48 AM
Ok yes she has a big chest, but she doesn't look good blonde and she isn't sexy, she looks too nice.

Does Black Cat need to be a big named actress just for the sake of selling her name, not really, people know of Spider-Man enough to go see it with or without a well known actress in it.

There are other roles in the movie. Maybe some (or ALL) of these women are auditioning to be Curt Conners' wife?

Rodrigo90
11-19-2009, 09:08 AM
Cause Connor is just that lucky and handsome to get hot women like them...

venom892
11-19-2009, 10:18 AM
Dude some pretty women end up with ugly guys all the time.

zeptron
11-19-2009, 10:24 AM
There are other roles in the movie. Maybe some (or ALL) of these women are auditioning to be Curt Conners' wife?

But aren't they a little young to be playing Baker's wife? These woman are in their late 20s/early thirties. Baker's is 50 now.

Kirk Langstrom
11-19-2009, 11:03 AM
Cause Connor is just that lucky and handsome to get hot women like them...

Yes but you probably wouldn't know anything about THAT. :yay:

Kirk Langstrom
11-19-2009, 11:04 AM
But aren't they a little young to be playing Baker's wife? These woman are in their late 20s/early thirties. Baker's is 50 now.

Isn't Tobey a little old to be playing Spider-Man?

These are the movies, not the comics. :yay:

zeptron
11-19-2009, 11:32 AM
Ehh Tobey's a little old to be playing Peter Parker as a young college student, but not Spider-man. Besides he doesn't look his age, so he can easily off as someone is his twenties.

It'll look weird having someone playing Baker's wife who's young and looks young enough to be his daughter. She should be played by someone who's at least in her 40s.

And it says this role will be a starring role.

Rodrigo90
11-19-2009, 11:35 AM
Hey,hey. CaptainStacy. My looks are the cross between Tom Cruise and Christian Bale. My GF looks like Vannesa Hudgens,only a little more chubbier,lol.

I dont think Connors will be Lizard in this.

Showtime
11-19-2009, 11:55 AM
Case in point.

It's like you can see into the future, dude. Weird. Oh I forgot we're all just jealous we're not whiny fanboys who dress up as Spider-Man in public and then claim to be an "insider" because you took a picture with Adam West or Bruce Campbell. I mean he's been right the whole time and all.

Too bad he can't come in here and gloat about his "accuracy."

I really can't even take up the time to read his long drawn out posts anymore. It hurts my eyes and my head. Spelling mistakes, run on sentences, it's like an english teacher's worst nightmare.

It's just sad, over here he just kept typing and typing, post after post in his big blue letters but nobody cared. Now if you go over there he just keeps posting but nobody is really paying attention.

In regards to Anne Hathaway, best candidate so far. Sign her up.

I_am_iron_man
11-19-2009, 11:56 AM
Valeria is also the name of the Vulture's daughter in comics :cwink:

ThatDamnNinja
11-19-2009, 12:08 PM
Valeria is also the name of the Vulture's daughter in comics :cwink:

Woah. That could derail the whole Black Cat thing completely. If it's true that the character's name is Valeria and that Anne Hathaway auditioned for it, then it's very likely that all these other names that have been popping up have been auditioning for that and NOT Black Cat, which would be a very good thing. It would free the movie up to have two real villains, instead of 1˝.

*fingers crossed for Vulture and Electro*

Rodrigo90
11-19-2009, 12:10 PM
Anne Hathaway as Black Cat is like having Minnie Mouse as Lara Croft.

All wrong.

Showtime
11-19-2009, 12:11 PM
Better than Stiles or McAdams. She can actually act.

ThatDamnNinja
11-19-2009, 12:18 PM
Anne Hathaway as Black Cat is like having Minnie Mouse as Lara Croft.

All wrong.

Or like having Heath Ledger as the Joker. I mean, come on! What's he done? A gay cowboy and a bunch of generic pretty boy roles? He doesn't even have the right facial structure!

All wrong. :whatever:

FilmNerdJamie
11-19-2009, 12:22 PM
I really can't even take up the time to read his long drawn out posts anymore. It hurts my eyes and my head. Spelling mistakes, run on sentences, it's like an english teacher's worst nightmare.

It's just sad, over here he just kept typing and typing, post after post in his big blue letters but nobody cared. Now if you go over there he just keeps posting but nobody is really paying attention.

It's funny as Hell. I pay attention for morbid curiosity. That and it's fun to egg on an idiot. In his mind, he's this huge scooper nailing stories left and right unnoticed by everyone. Anyone who rightfully calls him out on his crap automatically doesn't know what they're talking about and is a loser.

But dressing up as Spider-Man in public (in front of Adam West of all people) doesn't make him a loser? :huh: Strike that, he does it for "sick kids" who I'm sure think "I asked for Spider-Man. Not the Pillsbury Dough Boy!"

The more he mouths off, the funnier it gets. I say all power to him. I mean he keeps "proving us wrong" and all. :word:

I_am_iron_man
11-19-2009, 12:22 PM
Valeria is also the name of the Vulture's daughter in comics :cwink:

Again. Moviescoop reports that:

"Exclusive scoop: Anne Hathaway will play "Valeria" in the next SPIDER-MAN"

Moviescoop is the twitter account that revelead that Stevenson and Townsend are in Thor and that Hathaway has auditioned for Spidey 4 before Nikki Finke.

The only Valeria well-known in Spider-Man comics is Valeria Toomes, Vulture's daughter: link (http://marvel.wikia.com/Adrian_Toomes_%28Earth-616%29).

Spider-Fan
11-19-2009, 01:05 PM
If this female role is for Valeria Toomes and not BC, good. I think of the suggested actresses so far, Hathaway is the most talented, so I'd be fine with her getting whatever the role is. Even if it is Black Cat.

For the people saying she doesn't have the cup size for the role or they are only going for her to get the big name, Raimi hasn't done that all series. He has cast people he felt were right for the role, and with the exception of Topher as Brock, he was right the first time. Dunst in the first movie was good for MJ. It was the sequels she began to go downhill, which is more of a statement on her work ethic than Raimi's casting. Raimi is going for talent in his casting, not the big name. Hathaway has talent. Plus, the great thing about boobs is, you can make them seem bigger. That is if cup size is really such a big deal for you.

ultimatefan
11-19-2009, 01:32 PM
So far I´m not quite enthusiastic for the names being tossed around. I think BC demands a big time femme fatale type, like a younger Angelina Jolie.

Rodrigo90
11-19-2009, 01:53 PM
Hathaway is in NO WAY ANYTHING like BC. I dont care about great acting. BC is a sexual dynamite,like Diora Baird. Hathaway has no sexy qualities. Sexy qualities are much more important than acting when it comes to BC.

ultimatefan
11-19-2009, 02:09 PM
I´d say they should come half/half.

I_am_iron_man
11-19-2009, 02:09 PM
I still thought that Hathaway will play Valeria Toomes. I don't find a pic of this char on the web, but i re-read now Spider-Man's comics. The character looks like Hathaway.:cwink:

Rodrigo90
11-19-2009, 02:29 PM
As long as she doesnt play Black Cat. Im OK with that.

craigdbfan
11-19-2009, 02:32 PM
I´d say they should come half/half.

Truth.

Nightmare
11-19-2009, 02:40 PM
I liked McAdams. Shes has the adorable look of the girl next door. More so then Kirsten. Thats for sure.

Spider-ManHero12
11-19-2009, 03:29 PM
But aren't they a little young to be playing Baker's wife? These woman are in their late 20s/early thirties. Baker's is 50 now. Young girls do pass of as wifes of older men sometimes though.

HughJackFan420
11-19-2009, 03:33 PM
Dude some pretty women end up with ugly guys all the time.


yeah they're called gold diggers

omid17
11-19-2009, 03:34 PM
i just can't see a hot young wife be with old, one armed Connors

zenith16
11-19-2009, 03:57 PM
I still think Scarlett johansson should have been black cat. oh well she's black widow now. I still think it was for the same reason Jessica Alba was made sue Richards, on why she's black widow now. It was to appeal to the older man in their mid life crisis age to have a younger woman thing. ahh holly wood and that old habbit of theirs. Old bad habbits.

lol that's what got Rob low in trouble in his early part of his carreer cause of that obsession.

But she is a good actress Scar jo. so she'll do fine as balck widow. But she should have been black cat. Imo. it was obvious. I like Hathaway though. Not really sure I see her as black cat though.

I_am_iron_man
11-19-2009, 04:12 PM
With a ####job.

Well, better than ugly Kirsten's job. :cwink:

DACrowe
11-19-2009, 04:15 PM
I like Hathaway a lot in the casting. Dye her hair white and she's halfway there. She is not shaped like a porn star, so that may turn some fanboys off, but she is very attractive and can play very sexy when she wants to. And after seeing Rachel Getting Married, I'm convinced she's on the rise to be a great actress.

If there is going to be a BC she is the best choice we have heard so far. And given this is a report from Nikke Finke as opposed to random never-heard-of-you-before websites, it sounds like a possibility. I don't like Stiles for the role at all. McAdams would be good, but I don't think she is going to do it. My guess anyway is she will be dressed more like BC in her original appearances during the early-mid '80s and not the ridiculous shape and costume she has now.

With that said, I still want Lizard. Her being a thief who turns her eyes on taking down Lizard to prove herself or outdo Spidey could be interesting. Not as cool as Kraven, but I just want Lizard so badly.

I do know if this turns into the Superman IV (worst movie ever to turn to for inspiration) recycled plot I'm calling no dice unless the film gets outstanding reviews.

craigdbfan
11-19-2009, 04:16 PM
Well, better than ugly Kirsten's job. :cwink:

Kirsten is not ugly. Maybe its just me but I find Dunst incredibly attractive.

DACrowe
11-19-2009, 04:21 PM
BTW those who say Hathaway can't be sexy. Go watch Havoc. Now. It really isn't that hard to play fatale unless you just lack the ability to be seductive and most Hollywood actresses, good or not, can do that quite well.

HughJackFan420
11-19-2009, 04:23 PM
hathaway is ok i think McAdams is hotter but we all know that was just a rumor...bummer

Spider-Fan
11-19-2009, 04:24 PM
The vision people have for sexy seems to be related to cup size. The fact that people want to turn down a quality actress due to such a superficial reason is quite scary, and shows why we don't make these films.

HughJackFan420
11-19-2009, 04:24 PM
Kirsten is not ugly. Maybe its just me but I find Dunst incredibly attractive.


yeah it's just you....

that girl is so pale you can see her heart beat and no body either yuck no thanks

craigdbfan
11-19-2009, 04:28 PM
The vision people have for sexy seems to be related to cup size. The fact that people want to turn down a quality actress due to such a superficial reason is quite scary, and shows why we don't make these films.

Never liked her acting style (not saying she is bad I just find her a bit annoying) and her face doesn't click with me. Just like some people here have a dislike for Kirsten Dunst some people have the same dislike for Stiles, Hathaway, etc.

Although I did enjoy "The Devil Wears Prada".

Carlo Comicus
11-19-2009, 04:30 PM
Kirsten is not ugly. Maybe its just me but I find Dunst incredibly attractive.

Me too. In "How to lose friends and alienate people" is so sexy!

I love her from "Virgin Suicides"

DACrowe
11-19-2009, 04:32 PM
WAnt to see a great actress? Watch Rachel Getting Married and you'll see three of 'em, but a tour de force in the lead.

Want to see that actress be sexy? See Havoc.

I imagine most people who criticize her see her only as Ella Enchanted and as the Princess Diaries girl.

Spider-Fan
11-19-2009, 04:39 PM
Never liked her acting style (not saying she is bad I just find her a bit annoying) and her face doesn't click with me. Just like some people here have a dislike for Kirsten Dunst some people have the same dislike for Stiles, Hathaway, etc.

Although I did enjoy "The Devil Wears Prada".

Hathaway has more talent than either Stiles or Dunst, and I don't see a problem with her in the role. She has shown a variety of skills already in her acting resume, and I think she would be great in the role.

I am not saying you, but people are showing a dislike of her not based on anything other than looks, and this is pretty stupid to me. It seems like people say you need double D's and be rediculously hot to be Black Cat, and they ignore the keyest thing in casting a part for a film...talent. It doesn't shocks me, but I have to comment on it anyway.

WAnt to see a great actress? Watch Rachel Getting Married and you'll see three of 'em, but a tour de force in the lead.

Want to see that actress be sexy? See Havoc.

I imagine most people who criticize her see her only as Ella Enchanted and as the Princess Diaries girl.

This, and she doesn't have the "body" for Black Cat :whatever:

Doesn't make sense to me either.

zeptron
11-19-2009, 04:45 PM
People should be more concerned with whether or not they can lend a decent performance to the movie. A great actress is all that is needed.

HughJackFan420
11-19-2009, 06:08 PM
Black Cat should have a body of a pornstar but anyone that has something close to that is Monica Bellucci despite her accent and her age maybe a few years back she would've been a good choice. but man does she have Black Cat cleavage or what?

http://monicabelluccifan.com/gallery/albums/Films/The%20Sorcerers%20Apprentice/Filming%20-%20June%2015%202009/04.jpg (javascript: window.close())

zenith16
11-19-2009, 06:28 PM
I want some one that can act damn it. They can look hot as well, but their acting skills should be primary and looks come after to finish up and round up what's needed for the role. Halfaway is a good actress. I may not see her as Black cat.

But you never you she might pull this off and surprise ya. Even though I'm sure what I said up top in my first post here makes more sense. movie wise.

BTW I'm a attracted to Halfaway and she can look hot and act seductive if the role demands it.

I_am_iron_man
11-19-2009, 06:42 PM
Me too. In "How to lose friends and alienate people" is so sexy!


Oh, in that movie Megan Fox's sexy! :fhm:

Black Cat should have a body of a pornstar but anyone that has something close to that is Monica Bellucci despite her accent and her age maybe a few years back she would've been a good choice. but man does she have Black Cat cleavage or what?

Yeah, she have Black Cat cleavage but she can't act. Seriously. :doh:

Scarlet Spider
11-19-2009, 06:57 PM
http://news-briefs.ew.com/2009/11/19/anne-hathaway-spider-man/

Anne Hathaway's rep addresses 'Spider-Man 4' reports
by Adam Markovitz
Categories: Film, Movie Biz, Movies, News

Responding to a Deadline Hollywood report that Anne Hathaway is in talks for the role of the superheroine Black Cat in Spider-Man 4, the star’s publicist tells EW that “there are no negotiations underway.” However, he declined to comment on whether or not the actress had met with the film’s producers.

Rodrigo90
11-19-2009, 07:00 PM
Bruce "king of the cameos" Campball as Mysterio. Anne Hathaway as Black Cat.

Does anybody actually look at the characters from the comics? Mysterio should be a proper villain,not Bruce in cameo. Black Cat should be a big boobed temptress. Hathaway...Im sick of hearing about her. Since when did Cat become a cutsie big teeth oscar worthy actresses?

These characters deserve respect and to stay true to what they are in the comics.

Whoever came up with the stupid notion that Bruce should play Mysterio...I will find you.

DACrowe
11-19-2009, 08:31 PM
Yes, because Black Cat just needs big boobs to be done justice. :whatever:

BTW I hope Mysterio is not in this movie. Terrible villain, really. Nobody would get beyond the fish bowel at all, really.

DACrowe
11-19-2009, 08:46 PM
Those who are so out of shape about how she should appear. Go back and remember when she was drawn like an actual woman:

http://www.samruby.com/AmazingSpider-ManB/Large/AmazingSpider-Man194.jpg

http://www.samruby.com/SpectacularA/Large/SpectacularSpider-Man076.jpg

http://www.samruby.com/SpectacularA/Large/SpectacularSpider-Man085.jpg

If you can read any of those issues do, they're all quite good, here is the first one online from Marvel:

https://subscriptions.marvel.com/digitalcomics/view.htm?iid=1369

Go ahead and flip few these few issues to get a good idea of how she was originally drawn and written. While still sexy, she was not originally the image of sex she has become with current artist renderings.

Fans are just going to be disappointed because no woman naturally looks like BC and if she has altered herself to look like that, she probably isn't acting...in Hollywood anyway.

Rodrigo90
11-19-2009, 08:51 PM
I see a lot of Diora Baird...But I dont see Anne or her massive smile,lol.

Sebastos
11-19-2009, 08:57 PM
Diora won't happen. It's called wishful thinking. :o

Spider-ManHero12
11-19-2009, 09:09 PM
People should be more concerned with whether or not they can lend a decent performance to the movie. A great actress is all that is needed. Agreed. Looks aren't everything when it comes to acting, though, it's important for Black Cat.

craigdbfan
11-19-2009, 10:43 PM
Diora won't happen. It's called wishful thinking. :o

Exactly.

Its more of a dream pick.

I still don't understand how some write "actual" women. So big bust are suddenly this disgusting oddity?

I'm sure the reason why big breast are coming up in this case is because the character has big boobs. By the way she also had big boobs back in the older comic days (second cover posted).

There also seems to be a double standard floating around. I remember when the majority of fans complained about Topher Grace not having the same body as Eddie Brock nobody really brought up the "well he's a good actor so leave him alone" argument. Everyone was almost in complete agreement before and after that he was miscast.

Now its all of a sudden become "stupid" to even mention an actress that would be proportionate to her comic book counterpart. Thats ridiculous.

Spider-Fan
11-19-2009, 11:10 PM
Yes, because Black Cat just needs big boobs to be done justice. :whatever:

BTW I hope Mysterio is not in this movie. Terrible villain, really. Nobody would get beyond the fish bowel at all, really.

Completely disagree, but it doesn't look like Mysterio will be in it anyway. Mysterio I think would play to a lot of Raimi's strengths as a filmmaker, and would offer many plusses to the film if he were used.

Spider-Fan
11-19-2009, 11:17 PM
Exactly.

Its more of a dream pick.

I still don't understand how some write "actual" women. So big bust are suddenly this disgusting oddity?

I'm sure the reason why big breast are coming up in this case is because the character has big boobs. By the way she also had big boobs back in the older comic days (second cover posted).

There also seems to be a double standard floating around. I remember when the majority of fans complained about Topher Grace not having the same body as Eddie Brock nobody really brought up the "well he's a good actor so leave him alone" argument. Everyone was almost in complete agreement before and after that he was miscast.

Now its all of a sudden become "stupid" to even mention an actress that would be proportionate to her comic book counterpart. Thats ridiculous.

Different cases. Grace is not a great actor IMO. Also, the character isn't being altered if her cup size is not enormous. She can still be sexy and seductive without giant boobs. In the case of Topher, the concept of who Venom was got changed. Instead of comic Brock, we got evil Peter. Since the character of Brock got heavily altered in the transition, the complaints by Venom fans (which I am not) was more warranted. It's not just that Brock is huge in the comics and he wasn't in the film. The fact that Topher got the role told people this would not resemble traditional comic Venom in character or appearance. This turned out to be true on both accounts. Hathaway can still play a character that resembles Black Cat. The giant boobs are not a deal breaker or cause for concern in this case.

As a fan of Spider-Man, I'd be more nervous about the fact that both rumors of her being Valeria Toomes and Black Cat could be true, which would change who Black Cat is completely. Not that I am a Black Cat fan or anything, but a change that drastic would be more alarming to me than the superficial complaint.

craigdbfan
11-19-2009, 11:21 PM
At this point I honestly hope BC is not even in this movie. I'm just pitching in my thoughts in the casting because its always fun.

But she's one character that isn't needed especially after SM3. We need a character that will add one last shining moment to the Raimi series. Black Cat just doesn't seem like the character that will do that. All I see coming out of this are more unnecessary love arcs which have become tiring.

Spider-Fan
11-19-2009, 11:28 PM
I completely agree with you Black Cat adds nothing the series needs. I'm just saying if we're going to have Black Cat, not casting someone with huge boobs doesn't change the dynamic of the character. I hope she is not in the movie at all, personally.

omid17
11-19-2009, 11:57 PM
At this point I honestly hope BC is not even in this movie. I'm just pitching in my thoughts in the casting because its always fun.

But she's one character that isn't needed especially after SM3. We need a character that will add one last shining moment to the Raimi series. Black Cat just doesn't seem like the character that will do that. All I see coming out of this are more unnecessary love arcs which have become tiring.agreed :up:

UnionJack
11-20-2009, 03:45 AM
i still the Elisha Cuthbert is a good bet.

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs19/f/2007/291/0/4/Black_Cat_Spiderman4_by_MatiasSoto.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/5096/blackcatcx6.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/elaing.zhang/RulOsoyqVCI/AAAAAAAADEM/q_0Pcx-JooE/s800/38202_elisha_cuthbert-andrew_eccles_02_123_1150lo.jpg
http://www.rolagola.com/Beauty/images/Elisha-Cuthbert.jpg

We don't really need an amazing actress for Black Cat.

mre
11-20-2009, 03:56 AM
Looks aren't everything when it comes to acting...

Then how do you explain Megan Fox?

Rodrigo90
11-20-2009, 06:51 AM
Yes. Elisha Cuthbert. Much better.

DACrowe
11-20-2009, 08:45 AM
Exactly.

Its more of a dream pick.

I still don't understand how some write "actual" women. So big bust are suddenly this disgusting oddity?

I'm sure the reason why big breast are coming up in this case is because the character has big boobs. By the way she also had big boobs back in the older comic days (second cover posted).

There also seems to be a double standard floating around. I remember when the majority of fans complained about Topher Grace not having the same body as Eddie Brock nobody really brought up the "well he's a good actor so leave him alone" argument. Everyone was almost in complete agreement before and after that he was miscast.

Now its all of a sudden become "stupid" to even mention an actress that would be proportionate to her comic book counterpart. Thats ridiculous.

ha, actually I was ambivalent about the casting of Grace, as Brock was always a weak character and I was open to a new interpretation. I also thought Grace was very good in In Good Company and is a bit underrated or typecast. With that said his Brock was an incredibly weak character in the final product, but that seems more due to a screenplay problem than anything.

With that said is this Diora girl dream casting, really? I looked her up because I had never heard of her before and yeah her images on Google, for the Maxims and FHMs of the world are incredibly hot. But then I checked wikipedia and the only movies she seemed to have roles in that were of...renoun?....were TCM:TB where she played the ****ty blonde who gets killed and apparently she was one of the topless girls in Wedding Crashers.

I suppose I'm saying, "Can she act?" Nothing in her resumé says strong actress. But because she is blonde and has big boobs, she is dream casting? Now I hated GI Joe for the record, but many were pissed that Sienna Miller was cast as Baroness for the same reasons you're complaining about McAdams or Hathaway. But now even people who hated the movie seem to have loved Miller in that role. It isn't that hard to rework someone's image who is attractive into being a seductress when you have hundreds of millions to blow on constuming, if you know what I mean.

DACrowe
11-20-2009, 08:47 AM
Yes. Elisha Cuthbert. Much better.

We've had people saying her name since before Doc Ock alone was announced for SM2. To be fair she is a dead ringer, if on the younger side. Especially when she has full long hair. With that said, I've seen her only in 24 and The Girl Next Door. In the former she was so bad they wrote her out of the show and in the latter, well she just had to look hot and succeeded wildly. If that is all we want from BC, that is to look hot, then yeah she is a fine choice.

craigdbfan
11-20-2009, 08:55 AM
ha, actually I was ambivalent about the casting of Grace, as Brock was always a weak character and I was open to a new interpretation. I also thought Grace was very good in In Good Company and is a bit underrated or typecast. With that said his Brock was an incredibly weak character in the final product, but that seems more due to a screenplay problem than anything.

With that said is this Diora girl dream casting, really? I looked her up because I had never heard of her before and yeah her images on Google, for the Maxims and FHMs of the world are incredibly hot. But then I checked wikipedia and the only movies she seemed to have roles in that were of...renoun?....were TCM:TB where she played the ****ty blonde who gets killed and apparently she was one of the topless girls in Wedding Crashers.

I suppose I'm saying, "Can she act?" Nothing in her resumé says strong actress. But because she is blonde and has big boobs, she is dream casting? Now I hated GI Joe for the record, but many were pissed that Sienna Miller was cast as Baroness for the same reasons you're complaining about McAdams or Hathaway. But now even people who hated the movie seem to have loved Miller in that role. It isn't that hard to rework someone's image who is attractive into being a seductress when you have hundreds of millions to blow on constuming, if you know what I mean.


I don't care much for this character as reasons stated at the top of the page (for this movie at least). I'm just pitching in because discussing casting is always somewhat fun.

Black Cats character doesn't need a top tier actress thats just giving this character more credit than she deserves. She has always been a character thats purpose is to distract/help Spidey and act as eye candy. Saying she is a deeper character and needs a fantastic actress to portray her would be stretching it.

I liked McAdams by the way its Hathaway that I'm not to fond of (even then I noted that she's a good actress). With that said this character shouldn't be in SM4 she would contribute nothing to this series for a proper send off.

Scarlet Spider
11-20-2009, 11:44 AM
I like Black Cat. If written, cast and used correctly, I think she could be a very cool addition to this series.

Either way, it's not a dealbreaker for me if they use her or not.

DACrowe
11-20-2009, 01:59 PM
I agree. BC does not offer a fitting conclusion to the Raimi films IMO. I mean we're talking about a movie that could go KLH meets Lizard and we're hearing rumors it is going to be a mix of Superman IV and the Elektra storyline? That just sounds lame, IMO.

But I do like the BC character. However, the way the series has developed, I'm not so fond of using her. If they had planned this and not put Gwen Stacy in SM3, but rather made that character Felicia Hardy and make her a real temptress, so that MJ's suspicions were somewhat justified, it would have made MJ look better and done a nice set-up for SM4. However, they went with wholesome Gwen, so the idea of a new "Other girl," even if this one is a fatale as opposed to another girl next door type, seems off-putting.

But I think the BC character can be written well for a fatale. The early stories she had in the '80s before he revealed he was Spidey to her were playful, somewhat full of innuendo in a 1940s movie kind of way (they were having sex without having to talk about it) and created some interesting stories in that he loved her but would not unmask himself. Recently, since the sexualization of the character and turning her into a crazy-ex, Kevn Smith and Dan Slott restored some humanity to her and made her interesting again before this BND nonsense. KS reenergized her backstory and relationship with Peter and Slott and Mark Millar made her Peter's closest costumed confidant. That is a great angle, but again that would require years of backstory like in the comics to reach that point where she is Peter's unrequieted confidant that MJ doesn't trust.


None of that is accomplishable in a film that should be winding down the stories. However, if she has to be in it, I do think a good actress makes her better. The best fatales, Barbara Stanwyck, Mary Astor, Rita Hayworth, Lauren Becall, Gloria Grahame, Jane Greer, Gene Tierney, Ava Gardner, Kathleen Turner and Kim Basinger were all great actress or at least very good ones who played their parts with allure, sexiness and creativity.

Good actresses make great fatales. Casting a former playboy model (which I found out the Diora girl is) just because of her comic resemblence is silly. All women, including MJ, Elektra, Sue Storm, Rogue, Jean Grey, Emma Frost, Wonder Woman, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn....deep breath...etc. are drawn today in comics with that unbelievable body. Few actresses have it. Of the great fatales I named, only Gardner looked like that. In fact the first two fatales I listed weren't even that physically attractive.

It is how the part is played.

zenith16
11-20-2009, 02:05 PM
OK I'm confused why are you guys saying spider man "4" is the send off last movie? when they said they are pushing for 9 spider man movies. That was always their goal. I never heard anything about them saying what your suggestin it to be the last.

Spider-Fan
11-20-2009, 02:07 PM
ha, actually I was ambivalent about the casting of Grace, as Brock was always a weak character and I was open to a new interpretation. I also thought Grace was very good in In Good Company and is a bit underrated or typecast. With that said his Brock was an incredibly weak character in the final product, but that seems more due to a screenplay problem than anything.

With that said is this Diora girl dream casting, really? I looked her up because I had never heard of her before and yeah her images on Google, for the Maxims and FHMs of the world are incredibly hot. But then I checked wikipedia and the only movies she seemed to have roles in that were of...renoun?....were TCM:TB where she played the ****ty blonde who gets killed and apparently she was one of the topless girls in Wedding Crashers.

I suppose I'm saying, "Can she act?" Nothing in her resumé says strong actress. But because she is blonde and has big boobs, she is dream casting? Now I hated GI Joe for the record, but many were pissed that Sienna Miller was cast as Baroness for the same reasons you're complaining about McAdams or Hathaway. But now even people who hated the movie seem to have loved Miller in that role. It isn't that hard to rework someone's image who is attractive into being a seductress when you have hundreds of millions to blow on constuming, if you know what I mean.

Agreed. I don't care about Venom at all, so the changes made to him didn't effect me. But, I still think he was a different case than the case is with Black Cat. The fact we don't have a playboy model doesn't change who the character is in the transition from comic to film, unlike Grace as Brock did. People can say we don't need a good actress for the role, but the thing is a bad actress hurts both performances. Good actress brings chemistry to the screen that will help the film. Bad performances will make Tobey potentially look bad in the film as well as her. There are no small decisions or performances in filmmaking, so the best should always be cast. Plus, as you pointed out, you can make someone look more attractive. It is not that hard. Talent can't be applied by make up or other such techniques. It is a skill that not everyone has, and that is much more important for a film than looks alone.

craigdbfan
11-20-2009, 02:08 PM
I agree. BC does not offer a fitting conclusion to the Raimi films IMO. I mean we're talking about a movie that could go KLH meets Lizard and we're hearing rumors it is going to be a mix of Superman IV and the Elektra storyline? That just sounds lame, IMO.

But I do like the BC character. However, the way the series has developed, I'm not so fond of using her. If they had planned this and not put Gwen Stacy in SM3, but rather made that character Felicia Hardy and make her a real temptress, so that MJ's suspicions were somewhat justified, it would have made MJ look better and done a nice set-up for SM4. However, they went with wholesome Gwen, so the idea of a new "Other girl," even if this one is a fatale as opposed to another girl next door type, seems off-putting.

But I think the BC character can be written well for a fatale. The early stories she had in the '80s before he revealed he was Spidey to her were playful, somewhat full of innuendo in a 1940s movie kind of way (they were having sex without having to talk about it) and created some interesting stories in that he loved her but would not unmask himself. Recently, since the sexualization of the character and turning her into a crazy-ex, Kevn Smith and Dan Slott restored some humanity to her and made her interesting again before this BND nonsense. KS reenergized her backstory and relationship with Peter and Slott and Mark Millar made her Peter's closest costumed confidant. That is a great angle, but again that would require years of backstory like in the comics to reach that point where she is Peter's unrequieted confidant that MJ doesn't trust.


None of that is accomplishable in a film that should be winding down the stories. However, if she has to be in it, I do think a good actress makes her better. The best fatales, Barbara Stanwyck, Mary Astor, Rita Hayworth, Lauren Becall, Gloria Grahame, Jane Greer, Gene Tierney, Ava Gardner, Kathleen Turner and Kim Basinger were all great actress or at least very good ones who played their parts with allure, sexiness and creativity.

Good actresses make great fatales. Casting a former playboy model (which I found out the Diora girl is) just because of her comic resemblence is silly. All women, including MJ, Elektra, Sue Storm, Rogue, Jean Grey, Emma Frost, Wonder Woman, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn....deep breath...etc. are drawn today in comics with that unbelievable body. Few actresses have it. Of the great fatales I named, only Gardner looked like that. In fact the first two fatales I listed weren't even that physically attractive.

It is how the part is played.

If only we could revive Hayworth in her prime for the role I'd be all for it. :wow:

All of the casting rumors that have popped don't really have that same allure as some of the actresses you mentioned though (for the exception of McAdams to a degree).

Like you said BlackCat isn't a bad character its just she doesn't fit in for this film after what happened in SM3.

I was so happy and looking forward to Lizard vs Kraven that sounded good but now all this talk of BC and whatnot is disappointing. Save her for the next Spider-Man series.

This movie needs a villain that will make one last definitive stand that will allow for both himself and Spidey to stand out in their respective heroic/villainous light.

OK I'm confused why are you guys saying spider man "4" is the send off last movie? when they said they are pushing for 9 spider man movies. That was always their goal. I never heard anything about them saying what your suggestin it to be the last.

Of course Sony is going to keep making the Spider-Man movies its that the Raimi series will more than likely be over after this one (he's moving on to his next series; World of Warcraft). The main cast has no intention in returning without Raimi as well.

So you can most likely expect a different director to take the reigns and do whatever Sony and that director see fit (either following the world Raimi created or diverging without any reference that its a "reboot")

zenith16
11-20-2009, 02:10 PM
I agree with spider fan. I still don't know where this talk about this being the last movie is coming from though. kraven??? I only heared about him once I that thought that would be spidey 5. it was always mystero and Lizard most talked about here.

Spider-Fan
11-20-2009, 02:12 PM
Thing is with Lizard and Kraven is the FANS fell in love with that idea and talked about it's awesomeness for 2 years. So now that you realize it is not happening, everyone is disappointed. I think this is more the fault of the fans than the people making the movie. They're not missing an opportunity to make a great film by not using the two of them in SM4. They never fell in love with that idea like the fans did. Fans are not making the movie, and it is not our series to dictate. It is Sony's. I have no idea if the film they're making will turn out well. I hope it does. But, I don't think we have the right to curse out Raimi and Sony for not using the story we all fell in love with.

craigdbfan
11-20-2009, 02:14 PM
Thing is with Lizard and Kraven is the FANS fell in love with that idea and talked about it's awesomeness for 2 years. So now that you realize it is not happening, everyone is disappointed. I think this is more the fault of the fans than the people making the movie. They're not missing an opportunity to make a great film by not using the two of them in SM4. They never fell in love with that idea like the fans did. Fans are not making the movie, and it is not our series to dictate. It is Sony's. I have no idea if the film they're making will turn out well. I hope it does. But, I don't think we have the right to curse out Raimi and Sony for not using the story we all fell in love with.

They don't even need to use those two but Black Cat certainly isn't a better pick for a standalone villain if thats their plan.

Spider-Fan
11-20-2009, 02:16 PM
They don't even need to use those two but Black Cat certainly isn't a better for a standalone villain if thats their plan.

Reports all suggest Black Cat is not a stand alone villain. and I would imagine she is the 2nd villain or a loose villain/ally. The main villain seems to look like Vulture (he has the most evidence to back up right now anyway), so we need not worry about her being a stand alone villain.

zenith16
11-20-2009, 02:18 PM
why is it so hard to use the Scorpion? just use the same tech that was used for doc oc's arm's and make a tale. it's simple. shessh. mysterio and illusions are easy they don't need fish bowl just use a mirrored face plate. he'll mostly disguise him self any way.

craigdbfan
11-20-2009, 02:20 PM
Reports all suggest Black Cat is not a stand alone villain. and I would imagine she is the 2nd villain or a loose villain/ally. The main villain seems to look like Vulture (he has the most evidence to back up right now anyway), so we need not worry about her being a stand alone villain.

Well I guess its to early to judge exactly but if this turns out to be another Spidey film that will circle the entire film around several love interest ditching Spider-Man over Peter Parker, it'll be such a waste.

Hope they can bring that balance they found in SM2.

zenith16
11-20-2009, 02:25 PM
To me spider man and peter parker are interchangeable the thing that appealed to me about spider man and certain x-men characters( well a good lot of them) were them dealing with problems in their personal lives as well, along with their hero career. it's why I was able to relate to them that and the fact they were the younger heroes. stuff got dumped on them. as I said up top they should make things easier on themselves and add in scorpion with mysterio.

zeptron
11-20-2009, 02:41 PM
Since when has Black Cat ever been a villain anyway? The most villainous thing she's done is breaking her dying father out of prison so he could die at home. At her worst, she's an anti-hero. At her best, I would consider her a hero.

DACrowe
11-20-2009, 03:59 PM
BC actually would have worked well in SM2. But SM2 worked better without her. If you played the video game you could have seen the strength and perhaps made it so instead of MJ getting kidnapped, Doc Ock hurt her like in the comics. But SM2, despite using the kidnapped story, worked better as Peter Parker's journey.

SM3 was too crowded and could have lost someone (Venom or Sandman) and after the events of SM3, I just think the tone has changed. If it was Felicia instead of Gwen it would work. maybe. But it's not.

JackMercy
11-20-2009, 05:02 PM
OK I'm confused why are you guys saying spider man "4" is the send off last movie? when they said they are pushing for 9 spider man movies. That was always their goal. I never heard anything about them saying what your suggesting it to be the last.

Pardon me for going a bit off-topic here to offer my opinion on zenith's inquiry.

It is likely, nay...nearly official in some circles, that Raimi and co. will leave the franchise after No. 4, which is already being being viewed by many in the industry as basically a bit of 'mea culpa' for the last film.

[However, there's nothing to say that Raimi might not consider another, if bowled over by critical and commerical success; or he may be willing to return one day, even decades later...akin to George Miller's interest in returning to Mad Max in recent years...]

Beginning post-4, a new team and cast will likely take over (perhaps with Vanderbilt's script(s), which Sony is very keen on), with a new direction, a la Batman Forever (don't get antsy, I'm talking merely in common comparisons, not tone and absolutes). I'm not quite sure it will be a reboot w/a redone origin, etc. My understanding is that Sony just wants to continue with "further adventures." Think of it like James Bond or Doctor Who, if you're at all familiar -- different actors take over through the years, but almost all have been playing the same being (though each adds unique personality "ticks").

Nine films? Sony's original announcements mentioned at least six in this current incarnation...but if the wall-crawler keeps rolling in the dough like he has been, I would pretty much guarantee that you will be seeing Spidey films for the foreseeable future...

In my estimation, there are only two current absolutes in blockbuster superhero adaptations: there will always be Spider-Man movies in development, just as there will always be Batman pictures in preparation or under consideration...

Scarlet Spider
11-20-2009, 05:25 PM
Since when has Black Cat ever been a villain anyway? The most villainous thing she's done is breaking her dying father out of prison so he could die at home. At her worst, she's an anti-hero. At her best, I would consider her a hero.

Right on. I'm surprised that people are viewing Black Cat's possible inclusion as a villain choice, when she isn't technically even a villain but one of Spider-Man's allies.

webhead731
11-20-2009, 06:36 PM
Hey, has anyone thought that these new women their looking at may just be Betty replacements? Elizabeth Banks said she'd only come back with more screentime.

GoldGoblin
11-20-2009, 06:51 PM
Hey, has anyone thought that these new women their looking at may just be Betty replacements? Elizabeth Banks said she'd only come back with more screentime.

^
It's already been revealed that the character all the women were trying for is for Valeria.Valeria is Vulture's daughter in the comics...

webhead731
11-20-2009, 06:55 PM
Sorry, but when was that confirmed? I'm all over Spider-Man 4 news and haven't seen it...

bullets
11-20-2009, 07:13 PM
^
It's already been revealed that the character all the women were trying for is for Valeria.Valeria is Vulture's daughter in the comics...



Sounds like good news , i hope it's true .

Carlo Comicus
11-20-2009, 07:14 PM
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/11/20/julia-stiles-debunks-comic-book-casting-rumor-but-not-the-one-you-think/

omid17
11-20-2009, 07:31 PM
so far all these inside source are pretty much bulls***

filmguy619
11-21-2009, 09:10 AM
Brittany Snow should play the Black Cat. She has the appearance, and could pull off the sexiness and the *****iness of the character.

Elisha Cuthbert's not a bad choice, but I don't want her playing the Black Cat

Rachel McAdams is too cute to pull that sexiness off

I love Eliza Dushku, but I think her being the Black Cat may be too much.

and I like Anne Hathaway and Diora Baird as an actress, but the Black Cat is a bit out of their range.

FaT_tONle
11-21-2009, 10:04 AM
I am sure we will be hearing Nicole Kidman, Kate Beckinsale, Uma Therman pop up for BC in the the near future.

craigdbfan
11-21-2009, 10:20 AM
Right on. I'm surprised that people are viewing Black Cat's possible inclusion as a villain choice, when she isn't technically even a villain but one of Spider-Man's allies.

None of the fans are. All the reports have described her as being such and the Raimi series isn't a stranger to character changes.

They've been describing a bitter and vengeful BC (which she is at times but never towards SM).

Anyway I just hope this ends up being a rumor and that these actresses were auditioning for some other female character.

QWoods
11-21-2009, 11:30 PM
change diora bard's hair white like you did with rachel mcadams a while bak

DACrowe
11-22-2009, 04:20 AM
She'll never get the part, though.

Phoenix_Flare
11-22-2009, 11:04 AM
I just watched the few episodes of The Spectacular Spider-Man, in which Black Cat appears and i can def. see Anne Hatheway is in this role...the way cat is written in this version makes me believe Anne can pull it off, she's sexy, flirty, and sultry

I like how only Black Cat is shown and not Felicia, it keeps the mystery, and we don't need another love triangle in Spidey 4....

Spider-ManHero12
11-22-2009, 11:28 AM
so far all these inside source are pretty much bulls*** I wouldn't say that. The guy who knew it was black Cat hasx been pretty reliable in the past. Trust me. :yay:

omid17
11-22-2009, 03:17 PM
I wouldn't say that. The guy who knew it was black Cat hasx been pretty reliable in the past. Trust me. :yay:cool, i just need more news :cmad:

Sebastos
11-22-2009, 05:24 PM
I think we all want more news.

Fresh Prince
11-22-2009, 06:08 PM
I am sure we will be hearing Nicole Kidman, Kate Beckinsale, Uma Therman pop up for BC in the the near future.

She old.....Therman too ugly and Beckinsale old too.

omid17
11-22-2009, 06:13 PM
Kate's only 2 years older than tobey but both Tobey and Kate look really good for their age

Venom160
11-23-2009, 04:13 AM
I know alot of people frown on this choice but I think Elisha Cuthbert is perfect for the role. But Eliza Dushku would work aswell.

Showtime
11-23-2009, 01:52 PM
I wouldn't say that. The guy who knew it was black Cat hasx been pretty reliable in the past. Trust me. :yay:

I hope you're not talking about that joker from Counting Down.

Mrs. Sawyer
11-23-2009, 02:21 PM
I know alot of people frown on this choice but I think Elisha Cuthbert is perfect for the role. But Eliza Dushku would work aswell.

I would love that choice! :yay:

TheSlag
11-23-2009, 03:06 PM
I hope you're not talking about that joker from Counting Down.


COME ON!!!! He's been "reliable"... He told me..

a) Santa is coming at Christmas Time
b) The Easter Bunny at Easter
and...

c) the war of 1812 was fought in 1829...

Ummm.. well 2 out of 3 ain't bad. :woot:

TheSlag
11-23-2009, 03:11 PM
I say NO Black Crappy in SM4. Not sure why this thread is NOT in the other merged with the other "Official" :rolleyes: Villain Casting "Smorgosboard" but whatever...

Elisha Cuthbert would (and should of) been Gwen Stacy.

FilmNerdJamie
11-23-2009, 03:11 PM
COME ON!!!! He's been "reliable"... He told me..

a) Santa is coming at Christmas Time
b) The Easter Bunny at Easter
and...

c) the war of 1812 was fought in 1829...

Ummm.. well 2 out of 3 ain't bad. :woot:

And the Sun will go down. Then it will rise up again too.

DACrowe
11-23-2009, 05:14 PM
I say NO Black Crappy in SM4. Not sure why this thread is NOT in the other merged with the other "Official" :rolleyes: Villain Casting "Smorgosboard" but whatever...

Elisha Cuthbert would (and should of) been Gwen Stacy.

Slag old buddy old pal. While we have disagreed on the past of BC as a character (if written well I like her and before they nuked Spidey canon, I thought she had developed an interesting history with Peter over the years), but I am totally with you on this. There is no need for another romantic interest after Gwen Stacy's rather shoehorned entrance into SM3. To be fair I know Raimi was thinking about BC for SM2 and urged her to be in the video game for a similar role, which she worked fine in, so he probably wouldn't 86 her like Gwen or Venom....it's just we all want Lizard and maybe Kraven. There is a great mature, but authentic Spidey story there. While with BC, this feels like revisiting old material.

But I must say that it looks inevitable that BC will be in the movie and it is unavoidable. If they had introduced Felicia Hardy as opposed to Gwen Stacy in the last movie as "the other girl" and had made her a real vamp that MJ should be worried about, I could see this possibly working and making MJ more likable in the hodgepodge of ideas they called a screenplay for SM3. But it didn't work out that way and this seems odd now. But we're outvoted by Sony, so let's see how they did.

Sebastos
11-23-2009, 07:02 PM
"Which actress for Black Cat?"

Where's the none of the above option? :o

cerealkiller182
11-23-2009, 09:15 PM
None of them

Amber Heard

http://thecinemasource.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/amber-heard1.jpg

Elisha Cuthbet and Diora Baird would work. McAdams would be fine. Hathaway would work but I dont favor it for whatever reason. Never Eliza Dushku.

Sebastos
11-23-2009, 09:24 PM
Yes to Amber Heard.

Rodrigo90
11-23-2009, 09:27 PM
I was going to include Amber on the poll...but after the slating I got for suggesting her as Wonder Woman...I got scared,lol.

Venom160
11-23-2009, 09:44 PM
http://thecinemasource.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/amber-heard1.jpg:wow: daaaaaaaamn.

[A]
11-23-2009, 09:59 PM
I'd take Amber Heard for any part. In any movie.

Cagefighterkip
11-23-2009, 11:19 PM
eva green
diora baird
kat dennings

my top 3 choices, they can act plus they're attractive and have the body to pull off the role.

Sebastos
11-23-2009, 11:29 PM
Amber Heard, i'll make a petition if I have too. :o

Showtime
11-23-2009, 11:37 PM
COME ON!!!! He's been "reliable"... He told me..

a) Santa is coming at Christmas Time
b) The Easter Bunny at Easter
and...

c) the war of 1812 was fought in 1829...

Ummm.. well 2 out of 3 ain't bad. :woot:

And the Sun will go down. Then it will rise up again too.

Breaking News: They are making a Spiderman 4. I don't know when or where, but it is so.

The Cat-Man
11-24-2009, 01:00 AM
I agree with DA Crowe that, since Black Cat is going to be in S-M4, Felicia should've been in 3, rather than Gwen. Oh well. Anyway, to those up in arms about Hatheway not having the looks for the part... lol wut?

http://thedefeatists.typepad.com/apoplectic/images/2008/06/24/clue_2.jpg

http://www.higherthansatire.com/.a/6a00d8341cd41453ef0120a521033a970c-800wi (don't think I'm allowed to post the uncensored version)

http://www.topnews.in/light/files/anne-hathaway.jpg


I dunno, maybe I just have odd taste in women, but I think she's gorgeous.


...and easily the better actress among the others in the poll.
Also, though... for some reason, I just have a sneaking suspicion that Julia Stiles would work better with Raimi *shrugs*

sauronthegreat
11-24-2009, 05:41 AM
I don't see Black Cat in the film at all, all the rumors until now were just rumors and unconfirmed speculations.

Rodrigo90
11-24-2009, 06:45 AM
Anne is pretty. But nothing about her says Black Cat material.

ThatDamnNinja
11-24-2009, 11:29 AM
Anne is pretty. But nothing about her says Black Cat material.

Nothing? Really? Not even her Oscar nomination?

Figs
11-25-2009, 12:53 AM
^
It's already been revealed that the character all the women were trying for is for Valeria.Valeria is Vulture's daughter in the comics...

If Vulture is in fact in this, I hope to hell they get Ben Kingsley.

mre
11-25-2009, 12:57 AM
Sir. Sir Ben Kingsley.

zeptron
11-25-2009, 01:11 AM
I can't believe some people actually suggested Larry David for Vulture.

Some people need to learn that just because someone looks the part, doesn't always mean they should play it.

mre
11-25-2009, 01:19 AM
Never underestimate Larry David.

[A]
11-25-2009, 02:00 AM
Larry David would own your sorry....tail.

Figs
11-25-2009, 02:06 AM
Sir. Sir Ben Kingsley.

:bow:

HughJackFan420
11-25-2009, 11:31 AM
;17761817']Larry David would own your sorry....tail.


Chuck Norris uses Larry David as his doormat.


http://crossfitasia.com/ChuckNorris.jpg

Alex The Great
11-25-2009, 02:27 PM
How about Megan Fox for Black Cat? :o

Rodrigo90
11-25-2009, 02:30 PM
How about Megan Fox for Black Cat? :o

:doh:

Alex The Great
11-25-2009, 02:32 PM
:doh:
One Can Dream :awesome::o:csad::awesome::csad::o

GoldGoblin
11-25-2009, 02:55 PM
were not getting Black Cat you pervs.

mre
11-25-2009, 03:30 PM
Eventually in a Spidey movie we will get Black Cat. I think there is no doubting that. She is popular enough to be included.

mre
11-25-2009, 03:30 PM
Eventually in a Spidey movie we will get Black Cat. I think there is no doubting that. She is popular enough to be included.

American_Hobo
11-25-2009, 09:12 PM
Eventually in a Spidey movie we will get Black Cat. I think there is no doubting that. She is popular enough to be included.

I think so too.
She may not be in Spiderman 4, but if the series continues to 5 or 6, I'm almost certain that she'll be in the movie.

TheSlag
11-26-2009, 12:23 AM
I think so too.
She may not be in Spiderman 4, but if the series continues to 5 or 6, I'm almost certain that she'll be in the movie.

I can see it now...

Spider-Man 12... "Cat Scratch Fever" Rated X(tra BADDDD)

... Straight to Local Video Outlets near YOU. :woot:

Venom'sDad
11-26-2009, 08:50 AM
There's nothing wrong with having BlackCat in a Spidey flick... I for one would love to see that. What's wrong is having BlackCat in a Sam Raimi adaptation.

QWoods
11-26-2009, 12:56 PM
^^^^I agree lmao, we need someone creative yet loyal to the comics.

Alex The Great
11-26-2009, 07:48 PM
None of them

Amber Heard

http://thecinemasource.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/amber-heard1.jpg

Elisha Cuthbet and Diora Baird would work. McAdams would be fine. Hathaway would work but I dont favor it for whatever reason. Never Eliza Dushku.
She looks perfect for the role! She's hot, got a good rack, blonde, everything. Cast her now Raimi!

B
11-26-2009, 07:57 PM
None of them

Amber Heard

http://thecinemasource.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/amber-heard1.jpg



Glorious ^^ :up:

Thats worth the cinema entrance fee alone :oldrazz:

TheSlag
11-27-2009, 12:18 AM
Riddle me this Batboy Catwoman Ripoff Land Lubbers ye be :cwink:

What exactly do you see the addition of a Vampy Teasy Sex Kitten (*feels like I should be hearing catwoman Purrrrrring now *sheesh*), Miss Black Crappy.. errr.. Kitty.. errr.. CAT... ADD TO SM4, and Peter's OR Spider-Man's character growth.

ESPECIALLY considering the "temptation.. thy name be a blonde Gwen) storyline was in SM3.. and was CRAPPY DELUXE too?

mre
11-27-2009, 02:50 AM
Q: What will Black Cat add to Spider-Man 4?
A: A satisfaction to Black Cat fans. A sexy character to bring into the franchise.

DACrowe
11-27-2009, 03:31 AM
No concerns, about her acting. Is she, hot, blond and well endowed? Well she must be cast!

Let's wait and see.

itsleroy
11-27-2009, 03:46 AM
If we get a Black Cat, we definitely don't need Gwen Stacy anymore. Too many love interests. Let's also not forget Betty Brant. And I think we're past Liz.

My vote is on Rachel McAdams. She is very sexy...

And a good actor. :d

If anyone says Julia Stiles, I'll kill them.

SpideyFan914
11-27-2009, 11:58 AM
What can Black Cat add to Spider-Man's growth and development? See the Spider-Man 2 video game. If they bring Black Cat into the movies (as they should), that is how I would want them to pull her off (since it's already too late to replace Gwen with Felicia, even though Felicia fits that role ten times better).

Leenie
11-27-2009, 03:07 PM
Honestly? I would rather just have Spider-Man 4 focus more on Gwen Stacy.

Gwen Stacy is a much more interesting character than Black Cat, in my opinion. As a HUGE Spider-Man fan, even I can't deny that Black Cat is nothing more than a Catwoman ripoff.

Rodrigo90
11-27-2009, 04:13 PM
Gwen is no way interesting in Spider-Man 3.

Just a pretty,but ditzy blonde,who flutters her eyelashes.

People complain about Kirsten for one reason or another...But would you rather have MJ who is very interesting character in these movies and Kirsten who is a great actress. Or have the pretty brainless girl as Bryce potrayed Gwen as?

Venom'sDad
11-27-2009, 04:41 PM
I simply prefer Sam & his writing team to step down.

BlueLightning
11-27-2009, 04:42 PM
I think he means Gwen comic book persona. Either way, I don't think Black Cat is important to these movies, they should stick to classic elements.

mre
11-27-2009, 05:12 PM
Honestly? I would rather just have Spider-Man 4 focus more on Gwen Stacy.

Gwen Stacy is a much more interesting character than Black Cat, in my opinion. As a HUGE Spider-Man fan, even I can't deny that Black Cat is nothing more than a Catwoman ripoff.

After what happened in Spider-Man 3 how could something happen between Peter and Gwen?
He blatantly used Gwen to make MJ jealous. And movie Gwen is honestly a pretty dumb character.

GoldGoblin
11-27-2009, 06:03 PM
Sounds like Gwen and Captain Stacy won't be in the movie,and neither will Black Cat.But we will have Vulture's daughter instead which sounds good to me...

UnionJack
11-27-2009, 06:27 PM
Why so many votes for McAdams?!

I don't get it.

Mrs. Sawyer
11-27-2009, 06:37 PM
Rachel McAdams is a beautiful actress who, along with Hathaway, has proven to be a very good actresses (the difference being that Rachel McAdams is blonde). Its not hard to imagine McAdams leading.

omid17
11-27-2009, 06:47 PM
she's a good actress but i don't find her that attractive

Sebastos
11-27-2009, 07:46 PM
Amber Heard has my vote, hands down.

Leenie
11-27-2009, 08:11 PM
After what happened in Spider-Man 3 how could something happen between Peter and Gwen?
He blatantly used Gwen to make MJ jealous. And movie Gwen is honestly a pretty dumb character.

My point is that there shouldn't be another love interest. I'd prefer it if Spider-Man 4 didn't have a love triangle, to be honest. And Gwen can't be there to just be a friend for Peter?

Whether Gwen is a "dumb character" or not, I still think she's more interesting than Black Cat. If Gwen is in the picture, then her father will be in the picture as well. There's a LOT of potential for those two characters in the future movies, in my opinion.

[A]
11-27-2009, 08:12 PM
Amber Heard has my vote, hands down...to the waist area.

Sebastos
11-27-2009, 08:17 PM
Yes!

Figs
11-28-2009, 01:04 AM
Sounds like Gwen and Captain Stacy won't be in the movie,and neither will Black Cat.But we will have Vulture's daughter instead which sounds good to me...

That saddens me a bit. I really like James Cromwell and thought he made a damn good Captain Stacy, even though he only had a few scenes. Would have been nice to see him return for part 4.

bubbadoom
11-28-2009, 02:50 AM
Cromwell would have made a good Vulture...

Hobgoblin
11-28-2009, 03:18 AM
She looks perfect for the role! She's hot, got a good rack, blonde, everything. Cast her now Raimi!

See, thats exactly what the anti-Black Cat crowd is afraid of. A shallow role filled by a no talent "actress." We want an intelligent movie not just an empty action flick.

That said, I know nothing about this person. Its just the fact that you never mentioned her acting ability that made me nervous.

Doctor Jones
11-28-2009, 12:23 PM
Eh, the inclusion of Black Cat makes me nervous. One, because it will probably result in another love triangle, which I do not need to see again. I just want their relationship to actually go well for once.

Two, lack Cat aint that great a character. Not unless they're really gonna step it up with her. But I hope this doesn't stop Catwoman from being in BB3 if she was ever gonna be considered for it.

cin0
11-28-2009, 12:23 PM
i dont like anybody on that list, except for maybe diora.

SpideyFan914
11-28-2009, 02:16 PM
See, thats exactly what the anti-Black Cat crowd is afraid of. A shallow role filled by a no talent "actress." We want an intelligent movie not just an empty action flick.

That said, I know nothing about this person. Its just the fact that you never mentioned her acting ability that made me nervous.
Exactly. I want Black Cat, but attractiveness is not good enough criteria for casting. Acting ability is.
And again, I don't think Black Cat needs to be included as a love interest, either. Look at her in TSSM - there's a lot more to her character than "another girl who likes Spider-Man". And in the Spider-Man 2 game, the love interest between Spidey and Cat was barely there at all, yet it was a perfect use of her!

cerealkiller182
11-28-2009, 03:14 PM
See, thats exactly what the anti-Black Cat crowd is afraid of. A shallow role filled by a no talent "actress." We want an intelligent movie not just an empty action flick.

That said, I know nothing about this person. Its just the fact that you never mentioned her acting ability that made me nervous.

Amber Heard had very small roles in Pineapple Express, where she proved to be very likeable, and Zombieland. She was great in The Informers but the movie as a whole kinda stunk. She will be appearing in The Joneses which I heard some internet critics call a movie to watch out for as it has only made festival rounds thus far. She has clinched the lead in The Ward, John Carpenter's apparent return to form horror flick, and The Rum Diary as the female lead to Johnny Depp and Aaron Eckhart.

Shes not just some hot piece of ass that so many young actresses turn out to be, she has the potential to be very talented.

cin0
11-28-2009, 04:04 PM
does anybody think julianne hough could do it. i heard she's good.

http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/julianne-hough-bikini-picture.jpg

she looks good enough, and she definitely has the body for it.