State your unpopular film related opinion

[cerealkiller182]

- I want to see Tim Allen play a cop like Harrison Ford's burnt-out detective in Hollywood Homicide.

[Tron Bonne]

-I liked Gran Turino a lot, but the gang conflict pretty much killed it for me. The rape plot device and the 'shootout' stuff just seemed like a tacked need for some type of conflict. Personally, I was more than fine with the movie being a combination of a coming of age/changing with the time drama between Eastwood's character and the boy. I think a more personal conflict would have been better than the gang stuff. Honestly, I wouldn't have even minded if they had Clint and the boy meet under separate means and take the gang stuff out totally and completely

[SurfDUI]

-I liked Gran Turino a lot, but the gang conflict pretty much killed it for me.

I just finally saw it to not to long ago. I hear you, at times the gang part got heavy, but that's what Eastwood does. It will allways comes to some level of violence. If not for the time in Korea, he wouldn't have had a connection with the boy anyway. Those type gangs are real.

[Tron Bonne]

I just finally saw it to not to long ago. I hear you, at times the gang part got heavy, but that's what Eastwood does. It will allways comes to some level of violence. If not for the time in Korea, he wouldn't have had a connection with the boy anyway. Those type gangs are real.

Yeah, that's all I felt was really needed for the interaction between the two. I'm not disputing that the gang stuff isn't realistic or anything; I know there are plenty of gangs there, but I thought it still brought the movie down. I felt the movie was simply better as a drama of growth. The conflict just felt too tacked on to me

[danoyse]

I saw New Moon this weekend and kept forgetting how much I can't stand Twilight while I was watching it. It wasn't bad.

(it wasn't very good either, but...watchable)

[Bruce Banner]

I quite enjoyed indy 4 also.

Other than a couple scenes I found Indy 4 enjoyable.

Sure it is not as great as the original 3 films. But its good compared to other films we have scene.

[SurfDUI]

I like my 80's adventure movies not to tack on sequels for money grabs thankyou..I won't be seeing Indy 4 or an inevitable Back to the Future reboot.

[Doctor Jones]

Bull***.

Flip the lid over and there's a guide.

But in life, there is no guide to get you through it. You're looking too much into it. And back then, I don't think they had a guide for chocolates. Plus, Forrest isn't the smarterst guy, but that isn't the point. It's about showing that even the simplist things can be just as powerful and understanding as the most complex ones.

[Doctor Jones]

I like my 80's adventure movies not to tack on sequels for money grabs thankyou..I won't be seeing Indy 4 or an inevitable Back to the Future reboot.

Jesus, man, as if Spielberg and Lucas didn't have all the money in the world, they just did it for the money. :dry: I hate it when people say this. It wasn't because of that at all.

Lucas was actually the one who wanted it to end with LC. Spielberg and Ford were the ones begging him to do another one, but at the time, Lucas couldn't find a right plot device.

Just because people didn't like the choices they used or they brought it back in a longer time than your usual sequels, doesn't mean they did it for the money at all. They actually wanted to make a good movie and Spielberg even said, he did it for the fans. Whether you liked the film is another thing, but they didn't do it for the money. Because Lucas is Satan. :whatever:

[SurfDUI]

Jesus, man, as if Spielberg and Lucas didn't have all the money in the world, they just did it for the money. :dry: I hate it when people say this. It wasn't

Fine DR. Jones...I love Last Cusade:woot: "dr. Jones..", I'm sure two near billionares don't haggle about a dime. I was just talkin bout the studio...if I can't count on speilburg and Lucas to give me somethin fresh, even if I didn't completely dig that **** ...A.I. and that tom cuise movie in the future,, I half expect them not to rehash my chilhood. I don't give a **** how tight they wanted the story to be. I've got this dangling appendage of a 4th movie. Rockon

[VenomVsSpidey]

Other than a couple scenes I found Indy 4 enjoyable.

Sure it is not as great as the original 3 films. But its good compared to other films we have scene.

that is exactly how I feel:word:

not to mention it was my first time seeing indy on the screen, so that's a bonus too:woot:

[gwynplaine]

1. Raiders of the Lost ark.:awesome:
2. Parts of Temple Of Doom.

And that's it for me.:o

[Dark Victory]

- Tim Burton hasn't made a good film.
- Goodfellas is better than the Godfather
- Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is Johnny Depp's best film and performance. Other than that, I've always found him to be overrated.
- I prefer Christian Bale's Batman to any other performance of the character.
- Precious is an awful, repugnant film.
- Wait Until Dark is somewhat of an overrated thriller, featuring one of the most gullible protagonists of all time.
- The art direction of Avatar was underwhelming in a few aspects.
- Zodiac's use of CGI is more impressive than a lot of hollywood blockbusters.
- A lot of adaptations, whether it be a video game or comic book, won't work just because they're meant for different mediums of art. Not to mention a lot of adaptations worry to much about being faithful to the source material than keeping the tone and themes intact.

[Chris Wallace]

Agreed on Prcious. And NO videogame should be made into a movie ever again.

[roach]

- Tim Burton hasn't made a good film.
Pee Wee's Big Adventure, Batman, Batman Returns, Sleepy Hollow???
- Goodfellas is better than the Godfather
- Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is Johnny Depp's best film and performance. Other than that, I've always found him to be overrated.
- I prefer Christian Bale's Batman to any other performance of the character.
- Precious is an awful, repugnant film.
- Wait Until Dark is somewhat of an overrated thriller, featuring one of the most gullible protagonists of all time.
- The art direction of Avatar was underwhelming in a few aspects.
- Zodiac's use of CGI is more impressive than a lot of hollywood blockbusters.
- A lot of adaptations, whether it be a video game or comic book, won't work just because they're meant for different mediums of art. Not to mention a lot of adaptations worry to much about being faithful to the source material than keeping the tone and themes intact.

Prince of Persia may break the trend

[Addendum]

But in life, there is no guide to get you through it. You're looking too much into it. And back then, I don't think they had a guide for chocolates. Plus, Forrest isn't the smarterst guy, but that isn't the point. It's about showing that even the simplist things can be just as powerful and understanding as the most complex ones.

"looking too much into it"? I only have the box of chocolates I've bought for my mother and grandmother when I was a kid, and from what they told me to go by. They all had a guide on the inside of the lid. The only way they'd be a surprise is if someone didn't look at the guide.

[roach]

you guys have ruined Forrest Gump for me

[VenomVsSpidey]

truth. :csad:

[El Payaso]

El Payaso come on. It's pretty damn obvious the the chocolate reference. I can't believe I have to explain this. You don't know what flavor you're going to get when you take a bite into them, it's a surprise. That's life. There's no predictions what you're going to get, you don't know what you're going to get until you choose what it is.

If you have a box of chocolate you can easily predict one big thing: they're all going to be chocolate. Oh yes, there could be tiny surprises like chocolate with nuts, milk or whatever, but you're pretty sure you're not going to have a bite of tunafish in a box of chocolate. It's a pretty safe adventure.

Life is a lot more surprising than that. The line doesn't work properly.

But in life, there is no guide to get you through it.

And thus, life is NOT like a box of chocolate.

[roach]

or maybe the true theme is there are no surprises in life

[Figs]

- Goodfellas is better than the Godfather

That isn't exactly an unpopular opinion. While a lot of people praise The Godfather(i'm one of them), most seem to praise Goodfellas on a higher level claiming it's the best mob movie ever. I own both and love both but I will always prefer The Godfather over Goodfellas.

- Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is Johnny Depp's best film and performance. Other than that, I've always found him to be overrated.

I'm a really big Depp fan and I think the main reason he is overrated to some is due to all the many people who go overboard with their love for him. He truly is a fantastic character actor who most of the time disappears into the role in my opinion. I think the only film I didn't care for him in was Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

While Fear and Loathing is one of my favorites of his, personally I can't say that that was his best performance. I used to think it was until I saw Where the Buffalo Roam with Bill Murray playing Hunter S. Thompson. Their performances are almost identical.

- I prefer Christian Bale's Batman to any other performance of the character.

Agreed

- Zodiac's use of CGI is more impressive than a lot of hollywood blockbusters.

It's been awhile since I've seen Zodiac, what was the CGI used for?

[Doctor Jones]

Background shots I think. It was done very well. I had no idea they had a bluescreen at the cab driver crime scene.

And Depp is a fantastic actor. Like Figs said, people just love him so much and a little too much that gets in the way. He is a chameleon and undeniably a gifted actor.

And Burton has made great films. Ed Wood (which I heard is good but plan to see) Batman, Beetlejuice (I prefer Keaton in the film, but the rest is well made) Sleepy Hollow, Big Fish, Edward Scissorhands. He applies style more than substance sometimes, but that's not a bad thing. It's how he applies it that makes it unique. He can deliver on the substance front however, and he can make an enjoyable dark film.

I do prefer Goodfellas over Godfather actually.

[deathshead2]

It's been awhile since I've seen Zodiac, what was the CGI used for?
Watch this (http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/12/30/the-many-uses-of-green-screen-virtual-backlot-demo-video/) there's a shot from Zodiac in it.

[Figs]

Burton has made great films. Ed Wood (which I heard is good but plan to see) Batman, Beetlejuice (I prefer Keaton in the film, but the rest is well made) Sleepy Hollow, Big Fish, Edward Scissorhands. He applies style more than substance sometimes, but that's not a bad thing. It's how he applies it that makes it unique. He can deliver on the substance front however, and he can make an enjoyable dark film.

:wow:

Get off your ass and see Ed Wood, it's one of my favorite Burton films and probably his best one.

[[A]]

Ed Wood, yes.

[cerealkiller182]

Depp got robbed of an Oscar nod for Ed Wood

[david icke]

Depp got robbed of an Oscar nod for Ed Wood

Man if he was going to get nominated for anything, it should have been that one, he was great.
Martin Landau won best supporting, which was well deserved, any other year and I think Samuel L would have won for that catagory for Pulp Fiction. Apparently you can see SLJ mouth **** when Landau was announced as the wonner, lol. But, SLJ was very cool about that and said he more than deserved to win for Ed Wood, he said you just can't help your reaction in the moment. Landau was hilarious and tragic at the same time, made you laugh one minute, pulled at the old heart strings the next.

'Puuuullll the String! Puuuullll the String!" lol

Ed Wood is the only Burton movie I think is truly great from start to finish.

[cerealkiller182]

Ed Wood is the only Burton movie I think is truly great from start to finish.

Disagree. I think Big Fish is excellent

[[A]]

Yeah, great great movie -- good thing I saw it on tv the other day!

important edit: I was talking about Ed Wood..

[david icke]

Disagree. I think Big Fish is excellent

I did try watching that one on tv, but I couldn't really get into it and my attention wavered, I think I eventually went online while I was watching. Maybe i should have gave it more of a chance.

[Dark Victory]

And Depp is a fantastic actor. Like Figs said, people just love him so much and a little too much that gets in the way. He is a chameleon and undeniably a gifted actor.

Again, unpopular opinion. He's definitely not a bad actor, just one that has never really impressed me. I've never felt immersed watching like many others. And like you and Figs mentioned, the undying, general love for him doesn't help much.:o

And Burton has made great films. Ed Wood (which I heard is good but plan to see) Batman, Beetlejuice (I prefer Keaton in the film, but the rest is well made) Sleepy Hollow, Big Fish, Edward Scissorhands. He applies style more than substance sometimes, but that's not a bad thing. It's how he applies it that makes it unique. He can deliver on the substance front however, and he can make an enjoyable dark film.

To quote the director himself, the original Batman was more of a cultural phenomenon than a good film. While the visual presentation is sensational, not once did I feel for the characters, which brought down the entertainment value tremendously and made me look at the clock, waiting for the film to be over with. I loved it as a kid, and I do still think it's admirable in a few ways, but I'd never call it a truly solid film. Pretty much the same for Batman Returns.

As for Beetlejuice, the sets and effects were nice, but I simply didn't find it entertaining. To quote Roger Ebert, "there was no comic energy," which makes it feel more obnoxious and tedious than fun.

Edward Scissorhands, more or less, was the same that didn't hold my interest and pretty much fell apart in the last act.

For Sleepy Hollow, I haven't seen it since the VHS days, and didn't care for it at all. As someone who was a huge fan of the kids' story, I hated the dark and grim aberrant take. Though, that was over seven or eight years ago and I was only about six or seven at the time. Sweeney Todd and Charlie in the Chocolate Factory are awful and felt about as distant as adaptations can get, judging from the feel and tone.

I haven't seen Ed Wood or Big Fish, which are supposedly his best films so I'll have to get around to that one day.

While the art direction in his films can be impressive, I don't know who deserves more recognition -- the actuals set designers or the director. My English teacher's brother supposedly worked with Tim Burton on a few films and called him the most unimaginative, creative director out there...if that makes sense. I don't necessarily hate him, but if I see one more tracking shot set to a Danny Elfman piece, a gun barrel will sit between my lips.

Of course, this is all my opinion. To be fair, I need to re-watch most of his filmography.

[Bunker]

I don't like Depp at all. He's like Pacino; his early work is great, but he's just become boring and mundane.

[gwynplaine]

Man if he was going to get nominated for anything, it should have been that one, he was great.
_ Martin Landau won best supporting, which was well deserved,
_ Ed Wood is the only Burton movie I think is truly great from start to finish.
_ Landau was great, better than Depp who was very one note imo.
_ Agreed

Disagree. I think Big Fish is excellent
Great story. I wish it had been directed by someone else though.


To quote the director himself, the original Batman was more of a cultural phenomenon than a good film. While the visual presentation is sensational, not once did I feel for the characters, which brought down the entertainment value tremendously and made me look at the clock, waiting for the film to be over with. I loved it as a kid, and I do still think it's admirable in a few ways, but I'd never call it a truly solid film. Pretty much the same for Batman Returns.

As for Beetlejuice, the sets and effects were nice, but I simply didn't find it entertaining. To quote Roger Ebert, "there was no comic energy," which makes it feel more obnoxious and tedious than fun.

Edward Scissorhands, more or less, was the same that didn't hold my interest and pretty much fell apart in the last act.

For Sleepy Hollow, I haven't seen it since the VHS days, and didn't care for it at all. As someone who was a huge fan of the kids' story, I hated the dark and grim aberrant take. Though, that was over seven or eight years ago and I was only about six or seven at the time. Sweeney Todd and Charlie in the Chocolate Factory are awful and felt about as distant as adaptations can get, judging from the feel and tone.

I haven't seen Ed Wood or Big Fish, which are supposedly his best films so I'll have to get around to that one day.

While the art direction in his films can be impressive, I don't know who deserves more recognition -- the actuals set designers or the director. My English teacher's brother supposedly worked with Tim Burton on a few films and called him the most unimaginative, creative director out there...if that makes sense. I don't necessarily hate him, but if I see one more tracking shot set to a Danny Elfman piece, a gun barrel will sit between my lips.

Of course, this is all my opinion. To be fair, I need to re-watch most of his filmography.
QFT. Burton, like Gilliam or Jeunet is a really good art director. However, I'm not sure he is really such a great story teller.

I don't like Depp at all. He's like Pacino; his early work is great, but he's just become boring and mundane.
Pacino was much better. Where is Depp's Godfather (1 and 2), Dog Day Afternoon, The Scarecrow, Donnie Brasco (oh, The irony:cwink:) etc.

[Bunker]

Well duh. I was just saying that they shared the "used to be good/suck now" career thingy.

[Max J Power]

- A lot of adaptations, whether it be a video game or comic book, won't work just because they're meant for different mediums of art. Not to mention a lot of adaptations worry to much about being faithful to the source material than keeping the tone and themes intact.
Agreed on both accounts. The example I always jump to for the first part is Cowboy Bebop. Story-wise, it could be a live action movie. Everything else wouldn't really work.

I'd definitely like to see more Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?/Blade Runner style adaptations than movies where the main goal is just to sum up the book's plot.

This makes me think of a similar, though possibly not unpopular opinion: The adage of "the book is always better" is ridiculous. In my experience, people only say it about really popular books or classics. People completely ignore all the great movies based on books and stories that no one remembers. Take Sideways, for example. It's a good book through and through, but the film adaptation is much better at the form of filmmaking/screenwriting than the book is at the form of prose. I suspect there are many more Sideways out there than people realize.

[Parker Wayne]

This makes me think of a similar, though possibly not unpopular opinion: The adage of "the book is always better" is ridiculous. In my experience, people only say it about really popular books or classics. People completely ignore all the great movies based on books and stories that no one remembers. Take Sideways, for example. It's a good book through and through, but the film adaptation is much better at the form of filmmaking/screenwriting than the book is at the form of prose. I suspect there are many more Sideways out there than people realize.

Agreed :up:

[SuperFerret]

Sideways was a book?

[Max J Power]

Sideways was a book?
Yeah. The book went kind of under the radar because it only came out about 4 months before the movie.

[Ace of Knaves]

I figured out the twist in Shutter Island about 20 minutes in. Still found it a thoroughly enjoyable film though. Dunno if that's unpopular...

Outside of the cinema Avatar is a good action film, but nothing reeeeeeaaalllllyyy amazing. No where near to be honest. But I do enjoy Worthington in it. I think he should play more wise ass characters instead of the stoic ones. Seems to suit him better and he seems more natural.

[Doctor Jones]

Ace, alot of people saw the twist coming, and that wasn't the point or bad filmmaking. The screenwriter said it herself. It's not about the reveal. In fact, I'll state my unpopular film opinion, Shutter island is one of my favorites from Scorsese and one of his best. It's not Raging Bull or Goodefellas or anything, but in it's own way, the whole thought of it, I loved it more than alot of people did. It's just my kind of film.

I'll state others:

Finding Nemo is overrated as hell. When I think about it, it annoys me. Toy Story is still the best Pixar film.

Batman Forever is a guilty pleasure and fun. If I shut my brain off (apart from alot of things) I can watch it. Jones was midirected and Carrey channeled Gorshin which is kinda cool, but a little too much. But it's nowhere near B&R's disasterous outcome. Val Kilmer was a good Batman for what it was. If he was directed by Burton or Nolan, he would have been even better. And O'Donnel was a great Robin and one of the best things about that film.

Kindergarten Cop and Jingle All The Way are awesome. If you don't like the former you have no soul.

[Doctor Jones]

Again, unpopular opinion. He's definitely not a bad actor, just one that has never really impressed me. I've never felt immersed watching like many others. And like you and Figs mentioned, the undying, general love for him doesn't help much.:o



To quote the director himself, the original Batman was more of a cultural phenomenon than a good film. While the visual presentation is sensational, not once did I feel for the characters, which brought down the entertainment value tremendously and made me look at the clock, waiting for the film to be over with. I loved it as a kid, and I do still think it's admirable in a few ways, but I'd never call it a truly solid film. Pretty much the same for Batman Returns.

As for Beetlejuice, the sets and effects were nice, but I simply didn't find it entertaining. To quote Roger Ebert, "there was no comic energy," which makes it feel more obnoxious and tedious than fun.

Edward Scissorhands, more or less, was the same that didn't hold my interest and pretty much fell apart in the last act.

For Sleepy Hollow, I haven't seen it since the VHS days, and didn't care for it at all. As someone who was a huge fan of the kids' story, I hated the dark and grim aberrant take. Though, that was over seven or eight years ago and I was only about six or seven at the time. Sweeney Todd and Charlie in the Chocolate Factory are awful and felt about as distant as adaptations can get, judging from the feel and tone.

I haven't seen Ed Wood or Big Fish, which are supposedly his best films so I'll have to get around to that one day.

While the art direction in his films can be impressive, I don't know who deserves more recognition -- the actuals set designers or the director. My English teacher's brother supposedly worked with Tim Burton on a few films and called him the most unimaginative, creative director out there...if that makes sense. I don't necessarily hate him, but if I see one more tracking shot set to a Danny Elfman piece, a gun barrel will sit between my lips.

Of course, this is all my opinion. To be fair, I need to re-watch most of his filmography.

Really? Just the amount roles he's done and being so unrecognizeable in them is great. I saw POTC a second time just for Depp. His performance in that first film was only one of the few performances to truly blow me away. But it's your opinion of course. But you shouldn't let people's love for it get in the way of his acting ability. He's very unique in what he does. He's more versatile than most actors today.

I agree. You don't really care about the characters in Batman. But I love it so much. It's what got me into the character when I was 5 (I still have the VHS) It's really a childhood favorite of mine that I can never let go of for anything. I love it as much as TDK. It gave us Nicholson as the Joker and a badass Batman, I couldn't ask for more. There are alot of flaws, but it never brings it down for me. When the WB logos start up and Elfman's score begins I have to crank it up. It still gives me chills.

Beetlejuice didn't do much for me either. Again, Keaton's performance is the only thing that kept me watching, the rest, well, not so memorable. But using Keaton sparingly made it better so I give it credit for that.

Well, a story about a headless horseman who chops off heads is pretty dark in itself. It's better that way than a light cartoon tale. I really enjoyed it.

And yeah, didn't like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I much prefer the Gene Wilder version. Depp's performance is good, but it's the only performance from him that I didn't care for. It was too out there.

[Tron Bonne]

Ace, alot of people saw the twist coming, and that wasn't the point or bad filmmaking. The screenwriter said it herself. It's not about the reveal.

People keep saying that, but I still don't think it completely excuses it. A lot of the mystery elements and suspense just aren't there when you basically know what's going on less than half an hour in. Not to say it's bad, but I certainly think that predictability takes away from a lot of other aspects and bring the film down

[Parker Wayne]

Ace, alot of people saw the twist coming, and that wasn't the point or bad filmmaking. The screenwriter said it herself. It's not about the reveal. In fact, I'll state my unpopular film opinion, Shutter island is one of my favorites from Scorsese and one of his best. It's not Raging Bull or Goodefellas or anything, but in it's own way, the whole thought of it, I loved it more than alot of people did. It's just my kind of film.

I'll state others:

Finding Nemo is overrated as hell. When I think about it, it annoys me. Toy Story is still the best Pixar film.

Batman Forever is a guilty pleasure and fun. If I shut my brain off (apart from alot of things) I can watch it. Jones was midirected and Carrey channeled Gorshin which is kinda cool, but a little too much. But it's nowhere near B&R's disasterous outcome. Val Kilmer was a good Batman for what it was. If he was directed by Burton or Nolan, he would have been even better. And O'Donnel was a great Robin and one of the best things about that film.

Kindergarten Cop and Jingle All The Way are awesome. If you don't like the former you have no soul .

Agreed :up:

Batman Forever's biggest problem wasn't the writing (95% of the time) nor the acting, nor even the executive meddling. It was the freaking directing of the film that screwed them over.

[Dark Victory]

Really? Just the amount roles he's done and being so unrecognizeable in them is great. I saw POTC a second time just for Depp. His performance in that first film was only one of the few performances to truly blow me away. But it's your opinion of course. But you shouldn't let people's love for it get in the way of his acting ability. He's very unique in what he does. He's more versatile than most actors today.

Again, he's never really done it for me, other than Fear and Loathing. Also, for his performance in the POTC films, they felt like Hunter S. Thompson, except in pirate gear. He obviously had a different accent, but the physique and movements were pretty much identical.



Well, a story about a headless horseman who chops off heads is pretty dark in itself. It's better that way than a light cartoon tale. I really enjoyed it.

Yeah, the criticism isn't sound, but I was only six or seven at the time. Again, I'll have to rewatch it.

[Space Moose]

I love Peter Hyam and Albert Pyun.

[gwynplaine]

_ Sam Worthington is a good actor. So is Robert Pattinson (and I don't care fot the Twilight saga at all, I'm not the target:woot:.)
_ Besides "Aguirre, wrath of god", I usually prefer Werner Herzog's documentaries than his films. (Also I enjoyed "Burden of Dreams", more than "Fitzcarraldo".)
_ I don't like Altman's Popeye, B89 or Dick Tracy. They didn't really bring to the screen what the original comics were about.
_ He seems to have lost his touch, kind of like Coppola, but anybody who doubts De Palma's talent, needs to watch or rewatch "Phantom of the paradise", "Blow Out" and "Carrie".
_ Sean Connery is a really good actor. "The Man Who would Be King", "From Russia with Love" (where he fights the late, great Robert Shaw), "Outland", "Robin and Marian" (where he fights the late, great Robert Shaw for the second time:awesome:), and a few other films prove it.

[Bunker]

I love how Herzog says bears.

"Beers." :D

[Max J Power]

Ace, alot of people saw the twist coming, and that wasn't the point or bad filmmaking. The screenwriter said it herself. It's not about the reveal. In fact, I'll state my unpopular film opinion, Shutter island is one of my favorites from Scorsese and one of his best. It's not Raging Bull or Goodefellas or anything, but in it's own way, the whole thought of it, I loved it more than alot of people did. It's just my kind of film.

I'll state others:

Finding Nemo is overrated as hell. When I think about it, it annoys me. Toy Story is still the best Pixar film.

Batman Forever is a guilty pleasure and fun. If I shut my brain off (apart from alot of things) I can watch it. Jones was midirected and Carrey channeled Gorshin which is kinda cool, but a little too much. But it's nowhere near B&R's disasterous outcome. Val Kilmer was a good Batman for what it was. If he was directed by Burton or Nolan, he would have been even better. And O'Donnel was a great Robin and one of the best things about that film.

Kindergarten Cop and Jingle All The Way are awesome. If you don't like the former you have no soul.
I like those movies too. And Arnold Schwarzenegger is a good comedy actor.

[Dark Victory]

Fantastic Mr. Fox is much, much better than Up.

[Dark Victory]

People keep saying that, but I still don't think it completely excuses it. A lot of the mystery elements and suspense just aren't there when you basically know what's going on less than half an hour in. Not to say it's bad, but I certainly think that predictability takes away from a lot of other aspects and bring the film down

I enjoyed Shutter Island, but completely agree with this. Scorsese is too smart of a filmmaker to know that the twist isn't necessarily blindsiding, but regardless of his intentions, like you mentioned, the level of enjoyment is definitely decreased when you can make a fair guess of the film's outcome. Though, I think that the execution of the reveal -- Scorsese not relying on a huge, shocking shift -- and flashback scene were definitely solid.

[Ace of Knaves]

I agree it did take away some enjoyment of the film. I mean, films like Shutter Island should be heightened by the mystery and unpredictability. With that gone, it's gotta lower it a bit. But to be fair it did still keep me guessing for the most part with the red herrins. (i thought he was gonna turn out to be the "fire bug" at one point). And it was just so well acted and put together, and the story was still decent.

[[A]]

wait a minute..

Ace of Knaves..?

[Ace of Knaves]

i know, who is this charming young man? :D

[[A]]

:meanie:

but you're not *The* Ace of Knaves. sorry :o







:hehe:

[Ace of Knaves]

hehe i know, i lost the privalege to "The". :(

Imma keep the avvy though :D

[Chris Wallace]

I feel that everything that went wrong with Spider-Man 3 (while I still enjoy the movie overall) can be attributed to Venom. Sandman killing Uncle Ben gave Peter something to be angry about-a dark emotion for the symbiote to feed off of. The love triangles-MJ cheating on Peter made him feel betrayed, giving the symbiote more anger to latch onto & driving him to want to hurt Harry instead of help him. The Gwen angle was Brock's motivation. The public support gave him something to fall from. It all ties into Venom.

[Space Moose]

I think Moonwalker is an excellent visual film along with The Wall.

[Parker Wayne]

I think Moonwalker is an excellent visual film along with The Wall.

To be honest I'm not a big fan of either film. I love both Michael Jackson and Pink Floyd but:

-While I liked a few things about Moonwalker, the only thing I really loved was the music video part of "Smooth Criminal". Its not only the most memorable part of Smooth Criminal, its the only memorable part in Moonwalker. Everything else was cool, but underwhelming.

- I had several problems with the film version of the Wall, but first I'll say what I loved about it. All my favorite Wall songs (the happiest days of out lives/another brick in the wall part 2, empty spaces/young lust/one of my turns, Comfortably Numb/In The Flesh/Run Like Hell/Waiting for the Worms) were done very well, especially Run Like Hell/Waiting for the Worms.

The problem I had was that they kept using the same videos for flashbacks. I know it was to remind the audience of the events that happened, but it felt a little lazy to me. They could filmed more flashback events and had shown them or at least changed the angles. But that wasn't a big problem for me. The next two problems were big for me.

I was very disappointed that "Hey You" wasn't in the film. I love that song.

But the biggest problem I had were the animations. Yes they were good looking, and I like the look of it, but I feel the animations were too much. I know there was only 15 minutes of animation in the film, but I guess its because they tried to move forward the plot through animation, which didn't sit well with me. In fact, the movie made me hate the song "The Trial" even more than I did already because it was all animated.

[Matt Mortem]

I liked Ninja Assassin. I know alot of people didnt care for it, but I actually enjoyed it

[Doctor Jones]

Remember the Titans sucks. I know it's based on a true story, but it's coated in so much Disney cheese it made me sick watching it. It's the most overrated sports film of all time.

[Doctor Jones]

I agree it did take away some enjoyment of the film. I mean, films like Shutter Island should be heightened by the mystery and unpredictability. With that gone, it's gotta lower it a bit. But to be fair it did still keep me guessing for the most part with the red herrins. (i thought he was gonna turn out to be the "fire bug" at one point). And it was just so well acted and put together, and the story was still decent.

Well, naturally, for those who haven't read the book or going to see it for the first time, some of us don't see it coming, or we guess. I was suspicious about 3/4 through, yet it was still riveting. The film warrants a second viewing. It's a completely different film. The hints are no longer hints, but are actually logical parts of the narrative. In real life if any one of us were going through Teddy's self realization, these things would be present as well. He was just playing along and so were we, but it depends where we realize it. For me it was after the cave scene. Which lends itself into the whole idea of madness and how we perceive it. How Scorsese manages to twist everything around and **** with us (not in that sense) but in a way that makes us second guess or deny it. It's actually obvious. It's just up to Teddy to realize it. So the second time, the knowing of the twist doesn't ndeter the film at all, in fact, it enhances it. It presents new ideas than on the first viewing.

[Tron Bonne]

I'd never read the book, and on my first viewing I had more or less guessed what was going on within the first half hour to hour mark of the movie. Honestly, I found myself picking out clues as they came, as opposed to discovering them later. Once you've figured it out, all these mysterious elements like his dreams aren't as poignant, because there's no more mystery to them. The suspense is dumbed down because you know none of it is real anyway. The movie just beats you over the head with it almost from the get-go, and in the sense of the narrative it made sense, since they were trying to convey that to the character. However, in the sense of the movie itself, those elements just aren't as significant or effective.

If that's really what they were going for I think they should have done one of two things; 1) Get to the actual revelation earlier, get it out, get it over with, make it clear that's not the point, and have Teddy's narrative continue and really see him grappling with it, and challenge us to what is true and what is not until the final decision, or 2) Been up front from the beginning, and have two narratives (the fake one, and the real one) going on, see Teddy's struggle from both angles, and see how it's being handled from the other side.

As it stands, the movie felt too much like I was on my second watch, as opposed to my first watch. Even if it was the intention, I think they flubbed it since it felt much of the build-up, suspense, and mystery were deflated before they even had a chance to form.

It was well written, well acted, etc., but I still felt the predictability of it was simply too present not to dull down some of the things it tried to convey. Though, as I said, I still consider it a good movie, and one of Scorsese's better modern films.

[gwynplaine]

_ Besides very few, usually ones about boxing, I don't really like sports movies.
_ I don't like or enjoy the Ocean 11 movies.
_ I couldn't finish Erin Brockovitch.
_ Let The Right One In is probably my favorite vampire movie.
_ I'm glad it looks like Colin Farell has finally beaten the "Pretty Boy Stigma". He's a good actor.
_ Michael Pit should do more films. He was really impressive in Funny Games and should have gotten more credit for it.

[The Navigator]

I feel that everything that went wrong with Spider-Man 3 (while I still enjoy the movie overall) can be attributed to Venom. Sandman killing Uncle Ben gave Peter something to be angry about-a dark emotion for the symbiote to feed off of. The love triangles-MJ cheating on Peter made him feel betrayed, giving the symbiote more anger to latch onto & driving him to want to hurt Harry instead of help him. The Gwen angle was Brock's motivation. The public support gave him something to fall from. It all ties into Venom.

Norman Osborn wanted to be a father figure to Peter in SM1 and Doc Ock gave Peter love lessons in SM2. Villains having a personal connection to Peter is nothing new.

MJ kissing Harry was nothing Spider-Man didn't already do with Gwen (withOUT symbiotic provocation), which is what really caused the relationship rift in the first place: his moment in the sun causing his head to swell and behave rather selfishly.

Harry got a beating because Peter realized his post-Goblin trauma had more or less worn off, (from the otherwise inexplicable look at the cafe) AND that he had intimidated or manipulated MJ. ("What did you do to her?")

[Tron Bonne]

-Whether or not the movie is a complete piece of crap, the trailer for Scott Pilgrim vs The World is the best of the yea-- no, no, probably ever

[Parker Wayne]

-Whether or not the movie is a complete piece of crap, the trailer for Scott Pilgrim vs The World is the best of the yea-- no, no, probably ever

When I saw the trailer my reaction was "What the f**k did I just see?" (In a good way :yay:)

[roach]

i have no desire to see Kick ass

[SurfDUI]

so much Disney cheese it made me sick watching it. It's the most overrated sports film of all time.

hmmm....

[Dark Victory]

-Whether or not the movie is a complete piece of crap, the trailer for Scott Pilgrim vs The World is the best of the yea-- no, no, probably ever


Have you read the books?

[Space Moose]

I find it difficult to watch a studio produced film due to the constant politics that occure behind the scenes which disable the viewer from seeing the directors intentional final product.

[roach]

I find it difficult to watch a studio produced film due to the constant politics that occure behind the scenes which disable the viewer from seeing the directors intentional final product.

which is why Daredevil directors cut is a better fim

[[A]]

It's better but it doesn't turn it into a classic. I'm not saying you do but most people praise the DC like it's made of pure gold -- it's better.. all it does is make a mediocre movie slightly better..

[roach]

;18200267']It's better but it doesn't turn it into a classic. I'm not saying you do but most people praise the DC like it's made of pure gold -- it's better.. all it does is make a mediocre movie slightly better..

actually I am one who believes the movies is one of the best comics movies made. Daredevil suffered from 2 problems. Casting: People were tired of Ben Affleck at the time of this movie and some people were up in arms over the black Kingpin, and the tone of the movie goes from a dark film into a typical superhero movie...the exact scene where it changes is the playground fight scene

[Ace of Knaves]

I think the main problem with Daredevil was the romance sub plot. Should of been saved for a sequel. Establish the villains in the first. I do think the DC was pretty sick. And i liked Farrell's Bullseye

[Tron Bonne]

Have you read the books?

Yeah, the first four

[Chris Wallace]

I think the main problem with Daredevil was the romance sub plot. Should of been saved for a sequel. Establish the villains in the first. I do think the DC was pretty sick. And i liked Farrell's Bullseye

I think the romance angle might've been intended to try to steal some of Spider-Man's thunder.

[[A]]

Mark Steven Johnson couldn't steal candy from a dead kid..

[Chris Wallace]

Ouch.

[SuperFerret]

That's because he doesn't have the patience to wait until rigor mortis wears off.

[Doctor Jones]

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is the best western ever. From the ones that I've seen at least. Not a huge fan of John Wayne. I like my westerns dirty and gritty and real.

[The Navigator]

^That's unpopular?

[cerealkiller182]

^That's unpopular?

What he said about John Wayne is

[Ace of Knaves]

I agree with him. In the most part I prefer spaghetti westerns to American westerns.

[Addendum]

Only part I disagree with him is favorite western. As great as The Good, The Bad and The Ugly is, Once Upon a Time in the West is better.

[Dark Victory]

. Ang Lee's Hulk is much better than the lifeless reboot.
. Zombieland is a vastly overrated comedy. Not awful, but I paid more attention to its runtime than plot.
. Bringing Out the Dead is a great film. One of Scorsese's best? No, it's nowhere near the level of quality found in Taxi Driver or Last Temptation of Christ, but it's still quite an experience only found in the director's filmography.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

i have no desire to see Kick assI'm not alone?

Thats nice to know.:yay:

And now for some unpopular opinions:

I think that Inglourious Basterds was mediocre

I think that Justin Timberlake has the potintial to become a great actor

[david icke]

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is the best western ever. From the ones that I've seen at least. Not a huge fan of John Wayne. I like my westerns dirty and gritty and real.

That's fair enough to prefer that style of western, but I wouldn't say it was necesarily anymore 'real' than a John Wayne western.
Probably about the closest onscreen representation of the way the old American west really was is the HBO show 'Deadwood'. That's pretty far removed from all of those movies.

[Ace of Knaves]

Most of John Wayne's movies were cheesier than Deadwood ever is though IMO.

I respect that John Wayne is a legend and icon, but I don't think he was a great actor or anything. And like Jones says, I prefer the different type of westerns to the ones he was in. My favourite is a A Few Dollars More. The Wild Bunch is sick as well.

[Doctor Jones]

Agreed, Ace. Wayne never did much for me. He's never really impressed me either. I still need to see The Wild Bunch and Once Upon A Time in The West.

And Hidalgo is underrated. It's nothing special, but it's a fun film that harks back to the old adventure films. Johnston did good there. The scene between Viggo and his horse being wounded was very effective. If Johnston is given the right script, he can work his magic. I hope that's the case with Cap. I didn't like the Narnia films but I hope they can turn out a good Cap script.

Mrs. Doubtfire is awesome too. I don't know, but I never hear the movie being talked about on here. It's funny as hell. Though it's been a while since I've seen it.

Rush Hour 2 is better than the first Rush Hour.

[CrimsonMist]

Agreed, Ace. Wayne never did much for me. He's never really impressed me either. I still need to see The Wild Bunch and Once Upon A Time in The West.

And Hidalgo is underrated. It's nothing special, but it's a fun film that harks back to the old adventure films. Johnston did good there. The scene between Viggo and his horse being wounded was very effective. If Johnston is given the right script, he can work his magic. I hope that's the case with Cap. I didn't like the Narnia films but I hope they can turn out a good Cap script.

Mrs. Doubtfire is awesome too. I don't know, but I never hear the movie being talked about on here. It's funny as hell. Though it's been a while since I've seen it.

Rush Hour 2 is better than the first Rush Hour.

I always felt John Wayne should have won his Academy Award for his role in The Searchers and NOT for his role in True Grit. His role in True Grit was a more lovable version of the character he usually plays, whereas his character in The Searchers is really the complete opposite of the character he plays.

But I agree: I prefer the gritty, non-romanticized westerns. For the record, Once Upon A Time In The West is miles above The Good, The Bad & The Ugly, and I love that one too. But Morricone's score is beautiful, mesmerizing haunting and ominous. Jason Robards is great, Charles Bronson is a badass, Claudia Cardinale is quite simply one of the most beautiful women ever filmed, and if this was my first encounter with Henry Fonda, i'd hate his guts, regardless of his other roles - he's that good at being a bad guy.

You need to see The Wild Bunch, though man. One of the most satisfying movies I have ever seen, with an ending that'll just make your jaw drop.

my opinions:

Outside of the technical achievement, I don't like Citizen Kane at all. Honestly, everything Welles did in Kane, he did a billion times better in A Touch of Evil, the most important being the story. A Touch of Evil is far more engaging to me than Kane is.

I didn't care much for Batman Begins or The Dark Knight; I enjoy the attempts, but I still think something is missing.

Jackie Brown is Tarantino's best film. Period. (though Inglorious Bastards is a VEEEEEEEERY close second)

Despite directing Dracula, Mark of The Vampire, and Freaks, among others, Tod Browning was a rather inept director.

The Punisher '04 is a mighty fine movie.

Peter Jackson should go back to making horror movies or atleast make another one: The Frighteners is his best film.

[BlackLantern]

loved Hidalgo

[Tron Bonne]

-I find people who criticize The Hurt Locker winning Best Picture, but yet were fully behind Slumdog Millionaire and The Departed, very odd people.

-Where the Wild Things was nothing short of fantastic. Sure, it really wasn't a kid's movie like the book was more of a kid's book, but it stayed incredibly faithful to the idea and essence of the book, just took it in a different direction. I think it's one of the best films about being a kid.

[Duneboy]

Fantastic Four; Rise of the silver surfer was an awesome movie.

[Bunker]

I hated Where the Wild Things Are. A lot.

It felt like Jonze made the film random and quirky just to be random and quirky.

[Tron Bonne]

I hated Where the Wild Things Are. A lot.

It felt like Jonze made the film random and quirky just to be random and quirky.

How was the film random? How was it really all that quirky, for that matter?

[Doctor Jones]

Tina Fey is not funny. She is very hot though.

[roach]

I didn't care much for Batman Begins or The Dark Knight; I enjoy the attempts, but I still think something is missing.



For me whats missing is they tried to be too real with it. In the Nolan verse there wont be a Robin or a Mr Freeze of Poison Ivy. Instead of taking us to Batman's world they took Batman and put him in ours.

[[A]]

Ouch.

That's because he doesn't have the patience to wait until rigor mortis wears off.
:hehe:

[david icke]

Most of John Wayne's movies were cheesier than Deadwood ever is though IMO.

I respect that John Wayne is a legend and icon, but I don't think he was a great actor or anything. And like Jones says, I prefer the different type of westerns to the ones he was in. My favourite is a A Few Dollars More. The Wild Bunch is sick as well.

But I agree: I prefer the gritty, non-romanticized westerns.

Em, I'm wondering if in fact anyone understood what I was saying back there, it doesn't appear so.

I've said it before on a 'actor's you don't understand the appeal of ' thread, that I don't like John Wayne, I wasn't standing up for JW movies.

My point was, that if you think the spaghetti westerns are more 'real' than a John Wayne movie, you're kidding yourself on.

You really think folk were posing like that in the old west before gun fights, you think guys got away with being shot by having a makeshift bullet proof vest made of a little oven door? lol

They are just as unrealistic as a John Wayne movie where people are dressed in bright colours and are sweet as apple pie.

It has been commented on in articles that Deadwood is probably the closest we see of the way the old west really was. edit: in fact, the show is a concious attempt to try and replicate the old west in a way that had never been done in the movies, *any* movies.
No slick, cool, posing, gunfights, no perfectly choreographed punch ups, no-one talking in twentieth century colloquialisms.
In Deadwood the fights are brutal and clumsy, same as any gunplay, and you really have to concentrate sometimes to make out what people are saying, as they have them talk in the style of the time, a bit like Yoda mixed with an intelligent Forrest Gump by way of the Architect in the Matrix sequel.

I prefer the Clint Eastwood spagetti fests too, but I'm not going to kid myself on that they somehow reflect the old west moreso than a John Wayne western.
Yes, there would have been the odd cool as **** guys like Clint and Lee Van, but there would also have been big boring *******s like John Wayne and all those boring ass supporting characters who are really nice. I would say they both have the same level of 'reality' to them, just because one has more blood in them does not mean it's more realistic. There were plenty of plain old folk who did not get involved in that kind of thing, like the nice folk in the John Wayne movies.

[roach]

Pierce Brosnan is a better 007 than Daniel Craig......DC is just in better written movies

[Space Moose]

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is the best western ever. From the ones that I've seen at least. Not a huge fan of John Wayne. I like my westerns dirty and gritty and real.
Watch Django and El Topo.

[Bunker]

How was the film random? How was it really all that quirky, for that matter?

Um. How about the fact that the film went like this...

oooo let's play in the woods! :yay:
oooo let's build a fort! :wow:
oooo let's play in the sand! :woot:
*wild thing cries* :csad:
THE END :dry:

I loathed it. I hated the kid, I hated most of the Wild Things save for Tony Soprano, and I hated the "story".

[Space Moose]

Jean Claude Van Damme is awesome!

[Tron Bonne]

Um. How about the fact that the film went like this...

oooo let's play in the woods! :yay:
oooo let's build a fort! :wow:
oooo let's play in the sand! :woot:
*wild thing cries* :csad:
THE END :dry:

I loathed it. I hated the kid, I hated most of the Wild Things save for Tony Soprano, and I hated the "story".

You can oversimplify just about any plot by taking events out of context. If they had skipped from all those scenes without any context between, sure it'd be pretty random I suppose, but they didn't.

Pretty sure the kid being unlikable was part of the point. He was suppose to be a rather bratty, selfish kid.

[Doctor Jones]

Die Hard With A Vengeance is better than Die Hard. Although you can't top Hanz Gruber, his brother was the second best.

[cerealkiller182]

That's fair enough to prefer that style of western, but I wouldn't say it was necesarily anymore 'real' than a John Wayne western.
Probably about the closest onscreen representation of the way the old American west really was is the HBO show 'Deadwood'. That's pretty far removed from all of those movies.

Open Range seemed very accurate

[Space Moose]

Die Hard With A Vengeance is better than Die Hard. Although you can't top Hanz Gruber, his brother was the second best.
Agreed. Can't beat a dead beat Willis with a pissed off Sam L Jackson! The only way it could have been better would be if they left in the original ending.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSVwuFsiZv4

[CrimsonMist]

Em, I'm wondering if in fact anyone understood what I was saying back there, it doesn't appear so.

I've said it before on a 'actor's you don't understand the appeal of ' thread, that I don't like John Wayne, I wasn't standing up for JW movies.

My point was, that if you think the spaghetti westerns are more 'real' than a John Wayne movie, you're kidding yourself on.

You really think folk were posing like that in the old west before gun fights, you think guys got away with being shot by having a makeshift bullet proof vest made of a little oven door? lol

They are just as unrealistic as a John Wayne movie where people are dressed in bright colours and are sweet as apple pie.

It has been commented on in articles that Deadwood is probably the closest we see of the way the old west really was. edit: in fact, the show is a concious attempt to try and replicate the old west in a way that had never been done in the movies, *any* movies.
No slick, cool, posing, gunfights, no perfectly choreographed punch ups, no-one talking in twentieth century colloquialisms.
In Deadwood the fights are brutal and clumsy, same as any gunplay, and you really have to concentrate sometimes to make out what people are saying, as they have them talk in the style of the time, a bit like Yoda mixed with an intelligent Forrest Gump by way of the Architect in the Matrix sequel.

I prefer the Clint Eastwood spagetti fests too, but I'm not going to kid myself on that they somehow reflect the old west moreso than a John Wayne western.
Yes, there would have been the odd cool as **** guys like Clint and Lee Van, but there would also have been big boring *******s like John Wayne and all those boring ass supporting characters who are really nice. I would say they both have the same level of 'reality' to them, just because one has more blood in them does not mean it's more realistic. There were plenty of plain old folk who did not get involved in that kind of thing, like the nice folk in the John Wayne movies.

I never said anything about realism. And I was agreeing with Doctor Jones in that I prefer the grittier western. I agree with you in that The Wild Bunch is no more realistic than Stage Coach. But I prefer the meaner films. Gunfight At The OK Coral is a great f'ing movie(because you can't ever go wrong the Lancaster/Douglas team-ups), but if Tombstone were on TV at the same time, i'd watch Tombstone.

I've yet to see Deadwood. I don't have the premium channels, mainly because once you buy the package, they never show anything good. And I don't have money to drop on the boxsets. However, my local Blockbuster is going out of business and selling their stock. Maybe they'll have them. I hear very good things, and i'm especially interested in seeing the first episode, as Walter Hill directed it.


another opinion:
If a full print of "London After Midnight" were found, I think there would be a mass suicide because of how god awful the film is.

[CrimsonMist]

Double Post

[david icke]

I never said anything about realism. And I was agreeing with Doctor Jones in that I prefer the grittier western.


Nope, that wasn't all you said, and that's not what I was responding to. You also said you preferred the 'non-romantisism' of the spaghetti westerns. edit: So you were talking about the realism, just using different terminology.
I almost went back and edited my post to say 'if you think the John Wanye movies are less real or more romantic then you are kidding yourself on', but didn't bother as it was essentially saying the same thing. ie 'non-romantic' = 'more real'

Because there is just as much romantic stylisation in a spaghetti western as there is in a John Wayne western, it's just of a different kind.

Yeah, I got boxsets of Deadwood for the Christmas and birthday, I think you can get them relatively cheap, great show.

[CrimsonMist]

Nope, that wasn't all you said, and that's not what I was responding to. You also said you preferred the 'non-romantisism' of the spaghetti westerns. edit: So you were talking about the realism, just using different terminology.
I almost went back and edited my post to say 'if you think the John Wanye movies are less real or more romantic then you are kidding yourself on', but didn't bother as it was essentially saying the same thing. ie 'non-romantic' = 'more real'

Because there is just as much romantic stylisation in a spaghetti western as there is in a John Wayne western, it's just of a different kind.

Yeah, I got boxsets of Deadwood for the Christmas and birthday, I think you can get them relatively cheap, great show.

Ok then. Let me explain myself. The John Wayne western: Good vs Bad. Everyone is clean. There's an optimism. Things are clear cut.

The Spaghetti western is more ambiguous. People are filthy. There's more pessimism and an "Everyman for himself" attitude and things aren't as simple.

I will agree that there is a stylization to both, using the traditions of the western genre: the stand-offs in the middle of the road, lots of tension. Whereas, from what I understand, in reality people just got shot like it was nothing. It IS different, I'll contend to that, but employed differently in a way that I prefer.

That said then, I prefer the DIRTY romance westerns over the polished romance westerns. :yay:

I've seen the Deadwood sets go for up to 60 bucks, sometimes 40 at Walmart. Once I get some cash, i'll try to grab one up.

[david icke]

Ok then. Let me explain myself. The John Wayne western: Good vs Bad. Everyone is clean. There's an optimism. Things are clear cut.

The Spaghetti western is more ambiguous. People are filthy. There's more pessimism and an "Everyman for himself" attitude and things aren't as simple.

I will agree that there is a stylization to both, using the traditions of the western genre: the stand-offs in the middle of the road, lots of tension. Whereas, from what I understand, in reality people just got shot like it was nothing. It IS different, I'll contend to that, but employed differently in a way that I prefer.


Yeah, I know, I get where you guys are coming from,
and it's the same reasons why I prefer the spaghettis too.
But, the spaghettis don't just have the cool poses and whatnot, the western movie traditions, to make them romantic notions, they are also full of outlandish superhero type stunts.
The small oven door used as a bulletproof vest, and the guy getting hanged who has his rope shot from a great distance to save his life.


That said then, I prefer the DIRTY romance westerns over the polished romance westerns. :yay:

I've seen the Deadwood sets go for up to 60 bucks, sometimes 40 at Walmart. Once I get some cash, i'll try to grab one up.

Ian McShane is amazing in it, I don't know if you know that actor, he was more well known in the UK before 'Deadwood', but his Al Swearengen is a truly great western villan.

[Parker Wayne]

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is the best western ever. From the ones that I've seen at least. Not a huge fan of John Wayne. I like my westerns dirty and gritty and real.

I will be honest. I hate John Wayne. I saw two of his movies and didn't think much of him. Then I saw an article of him online that had excerpts of his interview with Playboy where he admitted he was a white supremacist and said that Africans Americans should be divided from the rest of the world until they are educated enough to live with civilized people. He also made many insulting remarks about Native Americans too. He also supported the unjusitified blacklisting of entertainers in America.

Plus he hated one of my most favorite films ever: High Noon :cmad:

I love the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, but in terms of Leone films I love two films more the GBU.

Only part I disagree with him is favorite western. As great as The Good, The Bad and The Ugly is, Once Upon a Time in the West is better.

I always felt John Wayne should have won his Academy Award for his role in The Searchers and NOT for his role in True Grit. His role in True Grit was a more lovable version of the character he usually plays, whereas his character in The Searchers is really the complete opposite of the character he plays.

But I agree: I prefer the gritty, non-romanticized westerns. For the record, Once Upon A Time In The West is miles above The Good, The Bad & The Ugly, and I love that one too. But Morricone's score is beautiful, mesmerizing haunting and ominous. Jason Robards is great, Charles Bronson is a badass, Claudia Cardinale is quite simply one of the most beautiful women ever filmed, and if this was my first encounter with Henry Fonda, i'd hate his guts, regardless of his other roles - he's that good at being a bad guy.


I loved Once Upon a Time in the west I agree too that its miles better than GBU. I feel like the Dollars Triology was just practice for Leone for this film. It also started the second part of his career where he made more serious films. Which leads me to the other film that I love more than Sergio Leone: A Fistful of Dynamite.

James Coburn and Rod Steiger were both awesome in it and it was much deeper and more mature than GBU too. Don't get me wrong, I love GBU too, but I just don't believe it was Sergio Leone magnum opus nor his best creative work.

I'm not alone?

Thats nice to know.:yay:

And now for some unpopular opinions:

I think that Inglourious Basterds was mediocre

I think that Justin Timberlake has the potintial to become a great actor

I agree with that. I liked him in Alpha Dog and Black Snake Moan.

Agreed, Ace. Wayne never did much for me. He's never really impressed me either. I still need to see The Wild Bunch and Once Upon A Time in The West.

And Hidalgo is underrated. It's nothing special, but it's a fun film that harks back to the old adventure films. Johnston did good there. The scene between Viggo and his horse being wounded was very effective. If Johnston is given the right script, he can work his magic. I hope that's the case with Cap. I didn't like the Narnia films but I hope they can turn out a good Cap script.

Mrs. Doubtfire is awesome too. I don't know, but I never hear the movie being talked about on here. It's funny as hell. Though it's been a while since I've seen it.

Rush Hour 2 is better than the first Rush Hour.

Agreed.

-I find people who criticize The Hurt Locker winning Best Picture, but yet where fully behind Slumdog Millionaire and The Departed, very odd people.

-Where the Wild Things was nothing short of fantastic. Sure, it really wasn't a kid's movie like the book was more of a kid's book, but it stayed incredibly faithful to the idea and essence of the book, just took it in a different direction. I think it's one of the best films about being a kid.

Pierce Brosnan is a better 007 than Daniel Craig......DC is just in better written movies

Yeah you have a point there. I would love to see how Brosnan would do if he was in Casino Royale.

Die Hard With A Vengeance is better than Die Hard. Although you can't top Hanz Gruber, his brother was the second best.

I believe Die Hard with a Vengeance was the worst Die Hard. It bored me.

[Tron Bonne]

-I'd prefer to see a Wonder Woman over a Green Lantern, Flash, or Lobo movie (Maybe if they were Wally West and Kyle Rayner, I might feel differently, but probably not). It's a shame we probably won't realistically see one for quite a few years, if ever.

-A Face in the Crowd is truly an underrated classic that deserves the appreciation that a lot of the classics often get. It's a shame that Griffith didn't pursue this path as opposed to the good ol' country boy we all know him as. I mean he was great in those roles, but I think the guy could have made one of the truly great villains of cinema if that job was any indication.

[[A]]

Teardrop, is that you..?

[Mace Dolex]

Shrek - I can't get behind the reason why these movies keep getting popular especially with adults. I tried watching the first one but dosed off after 20 minutes.

Some co-workers recommended me watching it dubbed in Spanish which according to them is much funnier but I really can't bother with it.

[Tron Bonne]

;18204334']Teardrop, is that you..?

Perhaps :ninja:

But, yes, it is. You can still just call me Teardrop, though, most others still do

[roach]

Yeah you have a point there. I would love to see how Brosnan would do if he was in Casino Royale.





The sad thing is that he wanted to do a more edgy James Bond but they didnt want to and he walked away from the role

[Vile]

Ninja Assassin is my favorite ninja movie.

[roach]

Ninja Assassin is my favorite ninja movie.

I agree

[[A]]

That's ok.......................if it's the only ninja movie you've ever seen. Otherwise, you need medical attention :oldrazz:

[roach]

;18204404']That's ok.......................if it's the only ninja movie you've ever seen. Otherwise, you need medical attention :oldrazz:

whats better...American Ninja????

[Parker Wayne]

The sad thing is that he wanted to do a more edgy James Bond but they didnt want to and he walked away from the role

Really? Thats messed up :dry:

[roach]

Really? Thats messed up :dry:

he was wanting to do a rated R Bond flick

[Vile]

whats better...American Ninja????


LOL! Indeed.

[Doctor Jones]

Agreed. Can't beat a dead beat Willis with a pissed off Sam L Jackson! The only way it could have been better would be if they left in the original ending.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSVwuFsiZv4

Don't forget McClane with the headache. I loved that. Have we ever seen the hero have a headache in a movie ever? Nope. And Willis and Jackson's chemistry beats Willis by himself in Die Hard, as great as that film is.

I think that alternative ending is a great scene in it's own way but it doesn't really fit McClane's character. He seems kind of psychotic.

[Dark Victory]

Why we'll never get another childrens' adaptation as good, or risky, as Where the Wild Things Are.

http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wild-Things-Are-Records/product-reviews/B001HN699A/ref=cm_cr_dp_hist_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar

**** you, America.

[Watchman]

Why we'll never get another childrens' adaptation as good, or risky, as Where the Wild Things Are.

http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wild-Things-Are-Records/product-reviews/B001HN699A/ref=cm_cr_dp_hist_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar

**** you, America.

:dry:

This is why we can't have nice things, America.

[ImWithTeamConan]

I like Temple of Doom more than Raiders.

[anrrd_2]

Jennifer's Body was a good movie... It's not a pretentious film... the creators knew it was not an intellectual film and they didn't try to make it one. It was just a lot of fun with a touch of creepy mixed in. Writer Diablo Cody was able to bring all the awkwardness and charm of Juno into this film without it being distracting. Megan Fox's usually sub par acting was at the best i've seen it. No she's not oscar worthy but there are signs of improvement and thats a good thing. Amanda Seyfried was charming as always and J.K. Simmons was hilarious!

[Dark Victory]

:dry:

This is why we can't have nice things, America.


It was more of a joke, but yes, the infamous country deserves to burn.:cmad:

[anrrd_2]

^ouch, kinda harsh lol

[Ace of Knaves]

It was more of a joke, but yes, the infamous country deserves to burn.:cmad:

Naaaaa... all the idiots and philistines should just be shot.

[Dark Victory]

^ouch, kinda harsh lol


Yes, my brutal sarcasm knows no bounds.

[Chris Wallace]

I liked Chris Rock in "Down To Earth".

[Tron Bonne]

Why we'll never get another childrens' adaptation as good, or risky, as Where the Wild Things Are.

http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wild-Things-Are-Records/product-reviews/B001HN699A/ref=cm_cr_dp_hist_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar

**** you, America.

What I find funny about the whole thing is that similar reactions were had towards the book at one time. Now, it's the classic that's being 'butchered'. Interesting, indeed

[ImWithTeamConan]

I just saw that movie like three days ago. One of my good buddies said it was the ****tiest thing he's ever seen.

Best movie I've seen in quite some time, I was personally moved by it.

But I guess people aren't into that emotion stuff.

[Doctor Jones]

The same people who loved Transformers 2 I'm afraid.

Princess Bride isn't that good. Apart from a few clever points, the movie does nothing for me.

[Jumpin' Jack]

I'm more hyped over Inception than I was over Avatar.
Even though people say Micheal Cera is going to be rubbish in Scott Pilgrim VS. The World, I think under the direction of Edgar Wright he's not going to be the stereotype mumbling awkward kid he's been known to be

[[A]]

That's not unpopular, is it? It is, however, reasonable.

[ImWithTeamConan]

The same people who loved Transformers 2 I'm afraid.

Princess Bride isn't that good. Apart from a few clever points, the movie does nothing for me.

......you hurt me quite a bit with that second part. :woot:

[Addendum]

The same people who loved Transformers 2 I'm afraid.

I saw Where the Wild Things Are and it was alright. However, I never got "moved" by the film.

And I've never seen Transformers 2, let alone the first Transformers.

[[A]]

I did get moved. My dad needed to send a mail so.. I had to move.

[DX]

I saw Where the Wild Things Are and it was alright. However, I never got "moved" by the film.

And I've never seen Transformers 2, let alone the first Transformers.
The first one was actually fun.

The second one, however...:down

[Parker Wayne]

The first one was actually fun.

The second one, however...:down

Honestly, I love the first one. I had no problems with the first film. LaBeouf and Fox weren't annoying, the military weren't useless, the parents had less screentime, and the pacing was much better.

The second one I don't even want to get started on how bad it was, so just see the above....

[블라스]

*Popular movie* is overrated.
*Least known movie from popular director* is so underrated.

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah, I guess that was kind of funny the first couple of times...http://i40.tinypic.com/2v86bk4.gif

[cerealkiller182]

*Popular movie* is overrated.
*Least known movie from popular director* is so underrated.

Well, duh, if it wasnt popular how could it be by definition overrated. Same with lesser as underrated.

[Dark Victory]

In the Loop is the best comedy of 2009, by far.

[Ipodman]

The playground scene in daredevil was good

[VenomVsSpidey]

I don't think it was good, but it doesn't bother me

[El Payaso]

I think it was the greatest piece of action drama ever shot.

[Ace of Knaves]

That scene and the crappy romance sub plot stopped that film (directors cut at least) being a great, dark vigilante movie. The romance shouldn't of happened in the first movie.

[Watchman]

In the Loop is the best comedy of 2009, by far.

:up:

This is fact.

"****ety-bye-bye then!"

"Climbing the mountain of conflict"? You sounded like a Nazi Julie Andrews! :hehe:

[VenomVsSpidey]

I think it was the greatest piece of action drama ever shot.
:hehe::hehe:

[BlackLantern]

:up:

This is fact.

"****ety-bye-bye then!"

"Climbing the mountain of conflict"? You sounded like a Nazi Julie Andrews! :hehe:

we don't get that over here in 'Merica

comedies about the inner workings of politics tend to fall flat over here

[Jumpin' Jack]

I find the Predator growl extremely annoying.

[Doctor Jones]

The playground scene in daredevil was good

Didn't you call The Hurt Locker one of the worst movies ever? :huh:

[Ace of Knaves]

Fo serious?!?!

[Parker Wayne]

Didn't you call The Hurt Locker one of the worst movies ever? :huh:

Really? :wow:

[Parker Wayne]

In the Loop is the best comedy of 2009, by far.

I have so see this movie. Its on my list of comedies to see along with Black Dynamite.

And I like your Avatar. M was an awesome movie.

[DX]

In the Loop is the best comedy of 2009, by far.
"Hey buddy, enough with the curse words, alright?"
"Kiss my sweaty balls, you fat ****!"

:woot:

[Dark Victory]

Didn't you call The Hurt Locker one of the worst movies ever? :huh:

You never know, he may only check out acclaimed classics.:o

[Ipodman]

That scene and the crappy romance sub plot stopped that film (directors cut at least) being a great, dark vigilante movie. The romance shouldn't of happened in the first movie.

So they shouldnt have put the Elektra Character in Daredevil?

[Ipodman]

Didn't you call The Hurt Locker one of the worst movies ever? :huh:

Hmm i dont remember what i said.. i might have to dig out that comment from the other thread...
maybe its the worst movie to ever win an oscar, does that calm everyone down abit? :woot:

[Dark Victory]

Hmm i dont remember what i said.. i might have to dig out that comment from the other thread...
maybe its the worst movie to ever win an oscar, does that calm everyone down abit? :woot:

:doh:...

[Ace of Knaves]

So they shouldnt have put the Elektra Character in Daredevil?

Maybe have Elektra in it as a villain/annoyance to Daredevil. But don't have any romance in it.

Hmm i dont remember what i said.. i might have to dig out that comment from the other thread...
maybe its the worst movie to ever win an oscar, does that calm everyone down abit? :woot:

:hehe:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Ipodman]

Maybe have Elektra in it as a villain/annoyance to Daredevil. But don't have any romance in it.


Hmm.. well Batman had some romance with Racheal in TDK... and then she died, kinda like Elektra in Daredevil...

Good argument.. or irrelevant comparison?



:hehe:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Is it possible im not American thats why I dont like it :csad:

[Doctor Jones]

Here... replace Affleck with Guy Pearce in the role, removie the playground scene, and you have a solid film. Although I still need to see the DC.

[Mace Dolex]

I've tried watching the Kill Bill movies but I don't find them that different than any other action movie out there, just because Tarantino directed them all the people made them out to seem like the greatest action movies ever done.

Oh and Uma Thurman has ugly big feet.

[david icke]

Oh and Uma Thurman has ugly big feet.

lol, she actually shares this opinion with you, she said in an interview that she doesn't like her feet, but Tarantino has abit of a fetish for them, so he had to persuade her to do those big bare feet shots in Pulp and Kill Bill.

As for the Daredevil playground scene, is it daft? yes, no doubt, but I think it's a fun scene, it's a bit of a grim movie for both characters, so I think it's alright to see them playing around together at the beginning.
edit: As for the DC of DD, yeah it's better, but I just wish they had not cast Coolio as the guy they are defending, the fact it is Coolio takes me right out of the movie, I mean, he's ok in the flick, it's just one of those celebrity cameo things. They don't even try to make him look any different to 'Coolio', he still has the distinctive haircut etc, there is no attempt at illusion there.

[Jumpin' Jack]

Is it possible im not American thats why I dont like it :csad:

neither is Ace...

[Doctor Jones]

I prefer Coppola's Apocalypse Now over his Godfather films.

[rnewbz]

I think the Hurt Locker is an overrated, innacurate and plot-less movie. I don't think it desrved it's best picture award at all. It was well directed, but no better directed than Black Hawk Down imo

[Tron Bonne]

I think the Hurt Locker is an overrated, innacurate and plot-less movie. I don't think it desrved it's best picture award at all. It was well directed, but no better directed than Black Hawk Down imo

How can a movie with a plot be plot-less?

[[A]]

agh, Black Hawk Down..

[Incrediblejeff]

Let me join in...

Kung Fu Panda was better than Wall-E

Monster's INC is Pixars's best film

Planet of The Apes is the best Sci Fi series ever(Sorry Star Wars)

Batman Returns is still the best Bat-movie

I found Spinal Tap to be pretty unfunny.

Warner's Bros cartoon shorts are better than anything Disney has/will make.

Sleeping Beauty was the best thing to come out of disney.

I think subtitles can enhance movies at times,I don't know why but I like reading.lol

[BlackLantern]

subtitles worked fantastic for Inglourious Basterds

[Incrediblejeff]

I still need to see that movie.

[El Payaso]

I think the absolute best Hulk movie ever was made back in 1977 in the form of a TV series pilot.

[BlackLantern]

off topic, but my favorite televised Hulk story was when Banner falls in love with that psychiatrist and she dies during this really ****** storm.....it was a two parter

so sad....I always felt for Bixby

[SurfDUI]

The Pilot, she came the closest to separating the two.:up:

Still Trial of the Incredible Hulk is my ****. Daredevil in black, a bearded Bixby...yea.

[rnewbz]

How can a movie with a plot be plot-less?

I don't think it much of a plot. There was no climax, no real hook. It just kind of existed for me.

[Dark Victory]

American Beauty sucks

[VenomVsSpidey]

Let me join in...


Batman Returns is still the best Bat-movie


This. :up:

[CBGB]

I think the Hurt Locker is an overrated, innacurate and plot-less movie. I don't think it desrved it's best picture award at all. It was well directed, but no better directed than Black Hawk Down imo

*Looks at post*

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*Looks at avatar*

... :dry:

[[A]]

I think the absolute best Hulk movie ever was made back in 1977 in the form of a TV series pilot.I don't remember it BUT the best Hulk line ever was/is/will be..

I DON'T HAVE 25 CENTS!!!!

[Parker Wayne]

*Looks at post*

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*Looks at avatar*

... :dry:

Haha great catch.

If people think the Hurt Locker is bad, I can live with it. I can't take people seriously who not only say The Hurt Locker was the worst film they ever saw, but also at the same time Avatar was the best film they ever saw. To be honest, I'm okay with the latter alone (the former not so much), but I hate the combination together.

[Spidey-Bat]

*Looks at post*

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*Looks at avatar*

... :dry:

My thoughts exactly.

[[A]]

^ good avvy :up:

[Spidey-Bat]

;18222053']^ good avvy :up:

Indeed, it is. I'm actually working on a device that makes you hear his voice whenever you read my posts.

[[A]]

haha I've read that one before :hehe:

[Sloth7d]

Haha great catch.

If people think the Hurt Locker is bad, I can live with it. I can't take people seriously who not only say The Hurt Locker was the worst film they ever saw, but also at the same time Avatar was the best film they ever saw. To be honest, I'm okay with the latter alone (the former not so much), but I hate the combination together.


I still don't understand why everyone would be so upset had Avatar won though. Nothing against Hurt Locker, but meh, it was pretty par for the course as far as war films go. Though I'm not mad that it won either; it wasn't that great a year for movies anyway, and at least two other nominations didn't get the nod that I thought should be no where near a best pictures nomination.

[Ace of Knaves]

How is the Hurt Locker par for the course in terms of war movies?

How many war movies just tell the story of the grunts on the ground? How many war stories actually show the effects of war on the mind of the grunts on the ground? How many war stories ignore the political ********? How many war stories don't have that over the top sense of patriotism that isn't really even in the minds of a lot of soldiers out there? How many war films show that war and the pressure/danger of being at war can be as addictive as a drug? How many war films focus ENTIRELY on a bomb squad?

Yea... thought so.

[DarthDaveBanner]

I think the absolute best Hulk movie ever was made back in 1977 in the form of a TV series pilot.

Correct.

[Doctor Jones]

How is the Hurt Locker par for the course in terms of war movies?

How many war movies just tell the story of the grunts on the ground? How many war stories actually show the effects of war on the mind of the grunts on the ground? How many war stories ignore the political ********? How many war stories don't have that over the top sense of patriotism that isn't really even in the minds of a lot of soldiers out there? How many war films show that war and the pressure/danger of being at war can be as addictive as a drug? How many war films focus ENTIRELY on a bomb squad?

Yea... thought so.

This is what I loved about the film. It wasn't some wave the flag up your ass or hamfisted political message. It bluntly tells the story of soldiers trying to survive in war and how it effects their heads. Only that. I'm glad it won Best Picture, because it never really had the qualifications of being Oscar bait.

[Tron Bonne]

How is the Hurt Locker par for the course in terms of war movies?

How many war movies just tell the story of the grunts on the ground? How many war stories actually show the effects of war on the mind of the grunts on the ground? How many war stories ignore the political ********? How many war stories don't have that over the top sense of patriotism that isn't really even in the minds of a lot of soldiers out there? How many war films show that war and the pressure/danger of being at war can be as addictive as a drug? How many war films focus ENTIRELY on a bomb squad?

Yea... thought so.

Yeah, good post. I see that pop up every once and awhile and never understand it. Of all the things one can criticize the movie for, being the usual war flick really isn't one of them.

[El Payaso]

off topic, but my favorite televised Hulk story was when Banner falls in love with that psychiatrist and she dies during this really ****** storm.....it was a two parter

so sad....I always felt for Bixby

An yes, that episode ('Married') was also directed by Kenneth Johnson.

[BlackLantern]

the way they crafted the show, you felt bad for Bixby, he was this drifter trying to find a cure, working **** jobs, and all that....you didn't want people to make him mad, but it happened

[SurfDUI]

For a scientist he was a pretty handy day laborer...Damn, his wardrboe was what made me sad..them tight assed Wranglers and those cheap thin flannel shirts.:csad: I know it was the '70's but dog.

On the flip side, EVERY week he happend to 'run into' a hott episodic T.V. actress in her 30's who needed David Belson, Barger, or whatever name he went with in the new town juuust in time to save her from Bootlegers or some dude dresed like Bigfoot...and then

you didn't want people to make him mad, but it happened

:cmad: :up:

[Doctor Jones]

The so called greatest car chase of all time in The French Connection isn't even that great. Apart from a few good moments like the woman with the baby, and a few close calls, it was just him trying to catch up to a train. I thought it was a car chase.

Bullit did it much better.

[SurfDUI]

The so called greatest car chase...
Bullit did it much better.

Greatest car chases ever in American film.

Ronin > Bullit > Frech Connection.

Honorable mention to Matrix Reloaded. Arguably the coldest scene in the trilogy, except it wasn't a total car chase, more like a vehicular battle sequence.

[david icke]

off topic, but my favorite televised Hulk story was when Banner falls in love with that psychiatrist and she dies during this really ****** storm.....it was a two parter

so sad....I always felt for Bixby

That was the awesome two-parter that opened the second series, directed and written by series creator Kenneth Johnson, who also did the pilot.
I actually saw those two(the pilot and the psychiatrist one) in the cinema, they had a limited release in the UK, round about the same time they released the Nicholas Hammond Spider-man pilot, and a couple of further episodes stuck together, as bona fide Spider-man movies.
I agree that they are better Hulk movies than the new ones, Bixby was the man, and they did not bad at all getting a monster effect out of a guy in green make-up.
Actually, i think it was an art house cinema that showed movies on a Saturday for kids that I the Hulk eps in, so very limited release, I got to see the Adam West Batman movie in that cinema too back then.

[Doctor Jones]

No Country For Old Men is better than Fargo. Hell, I liked Barton Fink more than Fargo.

[The Navigator]

Live Free or Die Hard (unrated) is better than Die Hard 2, which should not be in the franchise at all.

[BlackLantern]

Die Hard 2 is definitely the weak sister of the series, not a bad film, but just kind of meh

[Parker Wayne]

Die Hard 2 is definitely the weak sister of the series, not a bad film, but just kind of meh

Like I said before, there are only two things I love about Die Hard 2. The betrayal scene with the Army Special Forces and the ending. I still think the ending of Die Hard 2 was much more awesome than Die Hard 1. Everything else was meh.

[deathshead2]

Live Free or Die Hard (unrated) is better than Die Hard 2, which should not be in the franchise at all.
Wow, Im the opposite. I love Die Hard, and while Die Hard 2 is weak to it, I find it to be the only Die Hard film next that isn't as boring as the next two. I like to pretend that Die Hard 3 and 4 never happened, and that I'm still waiting from FOX for a real sequel.

[Spidey-Bat]

I don't know how popular or unpopular this is since I've not really paid attention to Marvel movies since Spider-Man 2, but I finally saw Iron Man last night and that's definitely the best Marvel movie to date.

[Parker Wayne]

Wow, Im the opposite. I love Die Hard, and while Die Hard 2 is weak to it, I find it to be the only Die Hard film next that isn't as boring as the next two. I like to pretend that Die Hard 3 and 4 never happened, and that I'm still waiting from FOX for a real sequel.

And I thought I was the only one that hated Die Hard with a Vengeance...

[[A]]

You gotta help me out here.. Die Hard 2 is the one in the snow? And the 3rd is the one with Samuel Jackson? I haven't seen them IN YEARS..

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea 2 is in the snow at the airport. 3 is with a hyperactive Sam L Jackson.

[[A]]

2 wasn't gonna be a Die Hard movie but they change it a bit so it would fit, right? or maybe I'm confusing franchises here.. Anyway, I feel that way with the 4th one: very un-Die Hard-ish :hehe:

[Parker Wayne]

Well it is very un-Die Hard-ish

The funny thing is I was watching an episode of the office where Michael Scott was talking about Die Hard and I think he hit the nail on the head.

Michael: "You know what, here's the thing about Die Hard 4. Die Hard one, the original, John McClane was just this normal guy. You know, he's just a normal New York City cop, who gets his feet cut, and gets beat up. But he's an everyday guy. In Die Hard 4, he is jumping a motorcycle into a helicopter. In air. You know? He's invincible. It just sort of lost what Die Hard was. It's not Terminator"

[Doctor Jones]

I don't know how popular or unpopular this is since I've not really paid attention to Marvel movies since Spider-Man 2, but I finally saw Iron Man last night and that's definitely the best Marvel movie to date.

Where the hell have you been? :huh:

[Doctor Jones]

Die Hard 3 for me is the most exciting. Willis with Jackson made that film and it was a refreshing change. "I don't like you because you're gonna get me killed!" Die Hard is a great film, but I lose interest in it about middway now for some reason. I liked Die Hard 4 even if the stunts were a little too out there. But they need to make it R again.

The second is just a rehash of the first but in snow and an airport. Though there is some exciting stuff. The snow mobile scene was awesome. And they had too many villains. Plus the balding man who kept *****ing at McClane. But at least the actor Senator dude wasn't an ******* like he usually plays in movies. He actually was sensible!

Plus on the first day of school in eighth grade, my teacher gave us a math problem of the water gallon scene in Die Hard 3. That was awesome.

And [A] to answer your question Die Hard 3 wasn't originally gonna be a Die Hard film. It was based on a script called Simon Says which provided DH3 with the story.

[[A]]

ahh the 3rd one then! I was *a bit* right, after all

[SurfDUI]

Just saw Die Hard 2 for the first time a week ago. I got a new TV and bought the 3 pack 3 months ago and waited till I got my flat screen to watch it....I could have waited forever. It blew. Everyone that I usually enjoy in other projects, Dennis Franz, John Amos even Bruce has been MUCH better in damn near anything else.

Die Hard 1 > 3 > 4............... 2

WHen Jeremy Irons is eating that peach and takes the safety offa Zeus's riffle and shoots him in the shin is epic. lol. Plus the Reginal Vel Johnson character from the first was spread out among half a dozen cops...all that already knew McClaine. And it was back in New York. Luv Die Hard 3. Dr. Jones is right tho, it does drag, but Its still great.

[VenomVsSpidey]

clash of the titans (the remake) is awesome

[El Payaso]

clash of the titans (the remake) is awesome

:csad: If this post is here means that yours won't be a popular opinion?

[Hobgoblin]

I'm tired of war films focusing on the soldiers. We get it. War sucks. It seems like every war movie drills that into us. What I want to see is the political maneuvering by the people that decide to go to war.

What I want is a movie that divides its time between the leaders of the country and the soldier on the battlefield. Dont make it preachy, just show how decisions made at the top effect the guy in the field.

[Ace of Knaves]

Hmm I'd say war films that focus on the soldier on the ground are rarer than the other films you mention.

[SurfDUI]

What I want to see is the political maneuvering by the people that decide to go to war.

It was called Syriana and The Good Shephard. Syriana had fat George Clooney and wasn't very good. The Good Shepherd was good as hell.

Or you can watch The McNeil Lehr Report and/or Gwen Iffel on PBS..I do.
Truth is stranger than fiction.

[Tron Bonne]

Except David Lynch fiction

[SurfDUI]

yea, dig that

[VenomVsSpidey]

:csad: If this post is here means that yours won't be a popular opinion?

I might sound stupid...but I don't get it? unless you mean that you wanted to see it and people say it sucked...I quite liked it, and haven't heard a whole lot of good things about it.

[Doctor Jones]

You know, apart form some bad humor and dialogue, I enjoy the National Treasure films.

[childeroland]

I like Robert Altman's Popeye; it captures the feel of the cartoons and comics.

[Dark Victory]

Vince Vaughn > Anthony Perkins

:oldrazz:

[VenomVsSpidey]

the hangover is overrated and I can name 10 movies that are funnier.

[cerealkiller182]

the hangover is overrated and I can name 10 movies that are funnier.

So could I, but I still like the hangover

[VenomVsSpidey]

It's funny, no doubt. but IMO nowhere near as funny as people made it out to be. like, I'd give it a 6.5

[Vile]

Moonraker is the greatest Bond film ever.

[Parker Wayne]

Vince Vaughn > Anthony Perkins

:oldrazz:

Lmao I thought you were serious!

Moonraker is the greatest Bond film ever.

Once again, lmao I thought you were serious.

[Max J Power]

You know, apart form some bad humor and dialogue, I enjoy the National Treasure films.
Me too. The sheer silliness of them made for a lot of fun, even if they aren't particularly good movies.

[Bunker]

Moon wasn't that good.

[Ace of Knaves]

^ Agreed. If it wasn't for Rockwell's brilliant performance it would be nothing. Poorly paced and predictable IMO. But again, Rockwell was immense in it.

[Spider-Fan]

I have no idea if this is an unpopular opinion, but I was watching The Untouchables for the first time last night, and during the opening credits sequence, I was saying wow. The music is outstanding and the credits helped ease me into the experience of the film.

Watch a movie today. Most movies are moving their credits to the end of the movie as opposed to the opening. Now, this was a great idea for films like Star Wars, etc. But, I think the fact most films are beginning to do this is disheartening. The score and atmosphere of a good credit sequence eases you into the film better IMO than just starting it. Look at Blade Runner. Would Blade Runner have been better had they just started with the into paragraph and the city? I don't think so, because the opening music is soothing and atmospherically beautiful. Many films are losing this now. Everyone leaves during credits at the end, and so much is lost this way.

Am I the only one who misses opening credits sequences? :csad:

[Spider-Fan]

Double post

[Incrediblejeff]

I like Robert Altman's Popeye; it captures the feel of the cartoons and comics.
Me too.This may be insane,but so far it's my favorite Altman film.

[Doctor Jones]

I have no idea if this is an unpopular opinion, but I was watching The Untouchables for the first time last night, and during the opening credits sequence, I was saying wow. The music is outstanding and the credits helped ease me into the experience of the film.

Watch a movie today. Most movies are moving their credits to the end of the movie as opposed to the opening. Now, this was a great idea for films like Star Wars, etc. But, I think the fact most films are beginning to do this is disheartening. The score and atmosphere of a good credit sequence eases you into the film better IMO than just starting it. Look at Blade Runner. Would Blade Runner have been better had they just started with the into paragraph and the city? I don't think so, because the opening music is soothing and atmospherically beautiful. Many films are losing this now. Everyone leaves during credits at the end, and so much is lost this way.

Am I the only one who misses opening credits sequences? :csad:

My God, even with Kevin Costner in this? :huh:

[Doctor Jones]

Vince Vaughn > Anthony Perkins

:oldrazz:

You literally scared the **** out of me.

That remake was literally the most painful movie experience of my life.

[Doctor Jones]

I like the first Mission Impossible more than the third film, even though that is great. And the second one sucks ALOT. ****ing Woo.

[Spider-Fan]

My God, even with Kevin Costner in this? :huh:

I was more focusing on the opening credits of the film. Not the film itself in that post. The opening credits music and overall presentation was fantastic.

But, Kevin Costner was rather good in that movie. Yes, DeNiro and Connery were better, but Costner played a good role in Eliot Ness. I can't hate on the man for The Untouchables. I'd discuss Waterworld if I wanted to bash him :oldrazz:

[Doctor Jones]

Oh, and The Hunt For The Red October wasn't even that good. Overhyped and unexciting. Sean Connery's accent too. At times he sounded Russian, others he sounded like himself. The hell? Alec Baldwin was really the only good thing about it.

[Doctor Jones]

I was more focusing on the opening credits of the film. Not the film itself in that post. The opening credits music and overall presentation was fantastic.

But, Kevin Costner was rather good in that movie. Yes, DeNiro and Connery were better, but Costner played a good role in Eliot Ness. I can't hate on the man for The Untouchables. I'd discuss Waterworld if I wanted to bash him :oldrazz:

"WHAT IS THIS A GAME??!!"

I couldn't even make it five minutes into Waterworld. I mean of all the people who would survive the entire world covered by water, it had to be ****ing Kevin Costner??

[Spider-Fan]

"WHAT IS THIS A GAME??!!"

I couldn't even make it five minutes into Waterworld. I mean of all the people who would survive the entire world covered by water, it had to be ****ing Kevin Costner??

Waterworld was just all kinds of bad. I'd call watching the whole movie an accomplishment, but it is more like torture :csad:

[DarthDaveBanner]

I have no idea if this is an unpopular opinion, but I was watching The Untouchables for the first time last night, and during the opening credits sequence, I was saying wow. The music is outstanding and the credits helped ease me into the experience of the film.

Watch a movie today. Most movies are moving their credits to the end of the movie as opposed to the opening. Now, this was a great idea for films like Star Wars, etc. But, I think the fact most films are beginning to do this is disheartening. The score and atmosphere of a good credit sequence eases you into the film better IMO than just starting it. Look at Blade Runner. Would Blade Runner have been better had they just started with the into paragraph and the city? I don't think so, because the opening music is soothing and atmospherically beautiful. Many films are losing this now. Everyone leaves during credits at the end, and so much is lost this way.

Am I the only one who misses opening credits sequences? :csad:


I agree with this and dislike even more when not even the film's title is shown until the end credits.

What if you walked into the wrong movie? You wouldn't know til the end.

[Spider-Fan]

I agree with this and dislike even more when not even the film's title is shown until the end credits.

What if you walked into the wrong movie? You wouldn't know til the end.

I agree. At least put the title there in the beginning if nothing else (which most movies that put the credits at the end do, but you're right, title at the end is becoming a trend too).

Then you'll have movies that do something weird. The title for The Departed doesn't pop up til like, 30 minutes into the movie, which works for the movie IMO, but it's an odd way to do it.

[Parker Wayne]

I don't have much of a problem with no opening credits sequences. All films don't need to have opening sequences anymore. If a director doesn't have a memorable idea or has no clear way of doing an opening sequence why bother with it? It doesn't need to be a huge focus so just get to the movie.

It not like there will be no more memorable opening credits sequences.