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Blackman
12-14-2009, 07:41 PM
Nic Cage might be redeemed in Kick Ass (which I doubt) but only to be bashed again for his next movie
..and it'll be all his own damn fault.
gwynplaine
12-14-2009, 08:26 PM
;17836264']You jumped on that wagon rather quickly :hehe:
Yeah. I love the comic book and I hope the movie rocks too.
;17836284']Interesting. Do you think that was what they were going for..? I mean, making Sheen scary? I think he's just a slightly-above-average Joe who's sent on a mission. The bad guys seem to join Kurtz' forces fast (think Scott Glenn's character--he was more bad-ass) and they were trying something different, for once.. I don't know -- I'm gonna watch this again soon :up:
Good point. But I saw it as the "Angel Of Death" going down that river to kill Kurtz. And I didn't get enough of that with Sheen (Hence my De Niro and Eastwood suggestion). I still wonder why Keitel was fired after two weeks of shooting?
Nic Cage might be redeemed in Kick Ass (which I doubt) but only to be bashed again for his next movie
Isn't it a little bit the nature of this game? Anyway I hope he is redeemed because he is a great actor and it's a cool comic book.:woot:
YoungE808
12-14-2009, 11:10 PM
Well we will continue to receive Nicholas Cage in movies since he is broke and people love to give him roles...
gwynplaine
12-15-2009, 05:52 PM
^I wish I was "Nicholas Cage" broke.:woot:
Dark Victory
12-15-2009, 06:36 PM
Nic Cage might be redeemed in Kick Ass (which I doubt) but only to be bashed again for his next movie
I loved Nicolas Cage in Bad Lieutenant, even if some aspects of his character were inconsistent. But now, he's off to films like the Sorcerer's Apprentice.
gwynplaine
12-15-2009, 06:46 PM
I loved Nicolas Cage in Bad Lieutenant, even if some aspects of his character were inconsistent. But now, he's off to films like the Sorcerer's Apprentice.
And if he gets even more bankrupt, it'll be National Treasure 3. :csad::dry:
Anyway, i have high expectations for his Big Daddy in Kick-Ass.
Addendum
12-17-2009, 06:56 PM
The Godfather Part 3 is a good movie that is preceded by two great movies. If it was a stand-alone movie with no connection at all to Godfather 1 and 2, it might have a better reputation.
Art_of_Crime
12-18-2009, 09:54 AM
Blade 3 was not all that bad.
X3, while not as good as X2 was still as good as #1
I'm so sick of movies that use one initial and then the sequel number. It was cool when Terminator 2 did it, but how many movies have done that? Its over guys. Find a new thing.
Sorry rant attack. couldn't be helped
david icke
12-18-2009, 10:41 AM
The Godfather Part 3 is a good movie that is preceded by two great movies. If it was a stand-alone movie with no connection at all to Godfather 1 and 2, it might have a better reputation.
I agree that it is a good movie, but...he should have got in an experienced actress when Winona called in sick. Sophia Coppola is the Jar Jar of that movie.
david icke
12-18-2009, 10:44 AM
Blade 3 was not all that bad.
X3, while not as good as X2 was still as good as #1
I still think X-Men 1 is the best of the trilogy. X-Men2 is better than 1 up until the last act when it loses it, apart from Jean Grey's death scene and wolverine vs Deathstike, but the army base stuff is way below what has come before.
I don't mind X3 as much as some poeple, but X-Men1 is a far more well made movie, classier, and has great character development and moments between Wolverine and Rogue, something X3 lacks in.
bullets
12-18-2009, 11:20 AM
I've never made it through Tron without falling asleep. I think it's boring. I'm actually looking forward to Tron 2 also .
El Payaso
12-18-2009, 02:15 PM
I've never made it through Tron without falling asleep. I think it's boring. I'm actually looking forward to Tron 2 also .
I agree. I never got through the entire movie, not once, since it was so boring. Can't be any less excited about a sequel.
Addendum
12-18-2009, 03:34 PM
I agree that it is a good movie, but...he should have got in an experienced actress when Winona called in sick. Sophia Coppola is the Jar Jar of that movie.
I agree that she was the most inexperienced member of the cast. She doesn't ruin the movie though.
Ace of Knaves
12-18-2009, 04:27 PM
I too agree Godfather Part III isn't as bad as people like to make out. Like you say, the hate is mainly because of how brilliant the first two were. But seeing how brilliant they were, it would of been nigh on impossible to top them. And if they weren't topped, it wouldn't just be "It was good but not as good as the others". It would be "OMG what a let down! It's crap!"
Dark Victory
12-18-2009, 04:50 PM
And if he gets even more bankrupt, it'll be National Treasure 3. :csad::dry:
Anyway, i have high expectations for his Big Daddy in Kick-Ass.
Same here. I haven't read the comic book, but I watched a very entertaining clip online of his character training his daughter.
Ace of Knaves
12-18-2009, 04:51 PM
Kick Ass is great. Better than Millar's other superhero deconstruction Wanted.
david icke
12-18-2009, 04:57 PM
I agree that she was the most inexperienced member of the cast. She doesn't ruin the movie though.
Ok, but I think the movie would have been a lot better if Winona had been in that role doing all those scenes with Andy Garcia.
Stop talking about Godfather III! I just ate! Too late.. :barf:
Art_of_Crime
12-18-2009, 05:53 PM
I seriously love the Karate kid 1,2 and 3
VenomVsSpidey
12-18-2009, 06:12 PM
there should be/should have been a sequel to Daredevil. but sans studio interference from fox.
Art_of_Crime
12-18-2009, 06:14 PM
there should be/should have been a sequel to Daredevil. but sans studio interference from fox.
does it have to have the same cast?
Mortal Kombat 1 and 2, while being horribly written, and underacted on a biblical scale are still amusing movies, and I look forward to watching them on cable.
there should be/should have been a sequel to Daredevil. but sans studio interference from fox.
does it have to have the same cast?I think that's the unpopular part of his idea..?
VenomVsSpidey
12-18-2009, 06:17 PM
does it have to have the same cast?
Mortal Kombat 1 and 2, while being horribly written, and underacted on a biblical scale are still amusing movies, and I look forward to watching them on cable.
yes, mainly for continuity's sake. maybe since Affleck said he'd never do it again, recast DD,but other than that, no. keep MCD, Faverau (if he was still fat) & Farrell.
Art_of_Crime
12-18-2009, 06:21 PM
yes, mainly for continuity's sake. maybe since Affleck said he'd never do it again, recast DD,but other than that, no. keep MCD, Faverau (if he was still fat) & Farrell.
Honestly Afflec was my only major gripe with that movie, so I'm with you.
I really, really cant stand that guy.
VenomVsSpidey
12-18-2009, 06:24 PM
Honestly Afflec was my only major gripe with that movie, so I'm with you.
I really, really cant stand that guy.
I like him as both DD and a person. he wasnt Perfect casting, but he did the job pretty well IMO.
Art_of_Crime
12-18-2009, 06:43 PM
well that's your opinion and I respect that
I don't agree, but thats not the name of the thread.
nice avy by the way.
gwynplaine
12-18-2009, 08:37 PM
I can't take Khan seriously. Every time I see Ricardo Montalban with that wig, it makes me laugh, or at least smile.
I really liked Christopher Reeves, but Gene Hackman, Ned Beatty and Valerie Perrine kind of ruined Superman: The Movie for me. (I wasn't too crazy about Kidder either. And Brando was funny too, in a Montalban sort of way, see above.) But Reeves was Superman, no doubt.
I liked some parts of the XMen and Spiderman movies (talking about 1 and 2, in both cases.) but all in all, I don't really care that much for them.
I didn't like 12 monkeys or Sweeney Todd.
VenomVsSpidey
12-18-2009, 08:51 PM
spider-man 3 was the best of all spider-man films. most flawed? yes. but still the best.
I really liked Christopher Reeves, but Gene Hackman, Ned Beatty and Valerie Perrine kind of ruined Superman: The Movie for meWhat if Supes had jumped on Beatty's back and asked him to squeal like a pig? Ahhh you would've loved the movie then, wouldn't you? :hehe:
gwynplaine
12-18-2009, 09:01 PM
;17852617']What if Supes had jumped on Beatty's back and asked him to squeal like a pig? Ahhh you would've loved the movie then, wouldn't you? :hehe:
Only if Burt Reynolds had shot him with a (kryptonite) arrow.
-Arya-
12-18-2009, 09:30 PM
I didn't Sweeney Todd.
:down. How dare you? :oldrazz:
gwynplaine
12-18-2009, 09:33 PM
Unpopular.:woot:
Also I don't really care for musicals, except maybe for "Singin' in the rain", "Cabaret" and "Hair". (And parts of "All that Jazz.")
Hobgoblin
12-18-2009, 10:30 PM
I like Signs and have no interest in seeing The Sixth Sense again.
Horror movies made after 1990 suck.
I dont hate Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning.
The Taking of Pelham 123 (1974) is better than the 2009 remake.
Most comedians arent that funny (Dane Cook, Ryan Reynolds, etc).
Sex is a main ingredient in horror films. All blood splatter and no booty is boring.
The Taking of Pelham 123 (1974) is better than the 2009 remakeHow is that unpopular..? The remake is utter garbage barf-smilie-to-the-max
Lunar_Wolf
12-19-2009, 04:12 AM
I like Signs and have no interest in seeing The Sixth Sense again.
Horror movies made after 1990 suck.
I dont hate Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning.
The Taking of Pelham 123 (1974) is better than the 2009 remake.
Most comedians arent that funny (Dane Cook, Ryan Reynolds, etc).
Sex is a main ingredient in horror films. All blood splatter and no booty is boring.
Scream
Shaun of the Dead
28 Days Later
American Psycho
Army of Darkness
Misery
:wow:
For a month, Misery is out of that list :oldrazz:
The Joker
12-19-2009, 06:38 AM
Well he said after 1990, and Misery was made in 1990. Plus I wouldn't class Misery as a horror. It's a thriller, IMO.
El Payaso
12-19-2009, 07:36 AM
Jack Black is maybe the most unfunny and pretentious comedian I've ever seen. And the fact that he tries so damn hard doesn't help one bit.
OK, here we go...*clears throat*:
Spider-Man 3 isn't that bad.
The only film I liked Hugh Jackman in was The Prestige.
Blade Runner is the most overrated film of all time.
Finding Nemo is the second most overrated movie of all time.
The only good Apatow movie was Anchorman.
Symbiotic
12-19-2009, 12:59 PM
I didn't like Avatar all that much. The story was essentially a live-action FernGully, and while the CG was good, it was nothing I hadn't seen before.
Blackman
12-19-2009, 01:14 PM
^^^I loved Avatar but Im starting to sick of everytime someone says anything bad about it someone replies (in more or less words) "Who cares about the story the SFX were great"
Hobgoblin
12-19-2009, 01:29 PM
Scream
Shaun of the Dead
28 Days Later
American Psycho
Army of Darkness
Misery
:wow:
Army of Darkness I see more as a comedy. Ditto Shaun of the Dead. And yes, I enjoyed them.
Duneboy
12-19-2009, 02:34 PM
Transformers 2 was nowhere near as good as the 1st one.
Watchmen kicked ass.
Twilight is for girls.
The Turtles Forever animated movie was easily one of the best films of 2009.
FF 2 -Rise of the S.S. was a great movie.
Kill Bill wasn't all that good.
The special fx & action sequences in spiderman 3 were awesome.
Orphan was lame & predictable.
:ikyn
SuperFerret
12-19-2009, 02:51 PM
Transformers 2 was nowhere near as good as the 1st one.
Watchmen kicked ass.
Twilight is for girls.
The Turtles Forever animated movie was easily one of the best films of 2009.
FF 2 -Rise of the S.S. was a great movie.
Kill Bill wasn't all that good.
The special fx & action sequences in spiderman 3 were awesome.
Orphan was lame & predictable.
:ikyn
That's highly unpopular. In fact, just the other day, I saw a group of Hell's Angels talking about how good it is.
Ace of Knaves
12-19-2009, 02:55 PM
And then they died for being disgraces to the Hell's Angels.
Vengeance
12-19-2009, 06:05 PM
Wrath of Khan is the 3rd worst Star Trek movie, maybe even 2nd for me
Sawyer
12-19-2009, 09:13 PM
^^^I loved Avatar but Im starting to sick of everytime someone says anything bad about it someone replies (in more or less words) "Who cares about the story the SFX were great"
I just hate how every fan of Avatar takes it upon themselves to crap all over SFX in other movies. It's like "Yeah, we get it, Avatar is state of the art, now please... shut the **** up."
SuperFerret
12-19-2009, 09:32 PM
And then they died for being disgraces to the Hell's Angels.
Do they not have sarcasm in your country?
VenomVsSpidey
12-19-2009, 09:44 PM
I just hate how every fan of Avatar takes it upon themselves to crap all over SFX in other movies. It's like "Yeah, we get it, Avatar is state of the art, now please... shut the **** up."
IMO, the only thing that has revolutionized CGI was Jurassic Park. star wars? yeah t started it. but JP...wow
here's mine : all those idiots who scream "reboot" for the spider-man franchise need to shut their gob.
nogap87
12-19-2009, 10:25 PM
Ratatouille is a ****** movie.
Sloth7d
12-19-2009, 11:04 PM
Alexander is a decent film
Up is Pixars weakest film, and the only one I wouldn't bother to rewatch.
Spider-man 3 is a decent film though flawed it is. It really is just a fun time.
Michael Bay gets more flak than he deserves.
HBP and PoA are the weakest HP films besides the SS/PS
Monsters Ball was a terrible movie. The only thing worth seeing is one scene. That's it.
Batman Returns>Batman 89
Superman is too boring to carry a film on his own; hasn't been a Superman movie I've liked yet. Same with Star Trek. You can say the recent Star Trek proves me wrong, but when you think of it, that movie wasn't very much like an ep of Star Trek, but more a long the lines of your typical summer action film.
Not sure if this is unpopular or not but HellBoy II has the best visuals I've ever seen in a film. It is simply beautiful and well balanced between actual props and CG effects.
All I can think of off top.
HBP and PoA are the weakest HP films besides the SS/PSWhat is that? What is that?!?!
VenomVsSpidey
12-19-2009, 11:32 PM
;17856836']What is that? What is that?!?!
HBP = Half Blood Prince
POA = Prisoner of Azkaban
PS = Philosopher's Stone
SS = Sorcerer's Stone
HP = Harry Potter
Sloth7d
12-19-2009, 11:54 PM
Yeah.
Hobgoblin
12-20-2009, 03:28 AM
Ah, yes. Star Trek 2009. I didnt hate it but it didnt excite me either. I was pretty much, well, bored by it.
DarthDaveBanner
12-20-2009, 03:45 AM
HBP = Half Blood Prince
POA = Prisoner of Azkaban
PS = Philosopher's Stone
SS = Sorcerer's Stone
HP = Harry Potter
IMO None of the Potter films have capured the magic of the books....and I say this as someone who read the books after seeing all of the movies so far.
El Payaso
12-20-2009, 08:50 AM
Ah, yes. Star Trek 2009. I didnt hate it but it didnt excite me either. I was pretty much, well, bored by it.
:up:
It was completely average and filled with some average crappy Hollywood humour.
Duneboy
12-20-2009, 09:15 AM
quentin tarantino films are bad.
tim burton's 1989 batman is the greatest film ever made.
jason statham movies are awful.
the crow was the worst comic book adaptation of all time (besides catwoman & daredevil).
Parker Wayne
12-20-2009, 11:32 AM
IMO None of the Potter films have capured the magic of the books....and I say this as someone who read the books after seeing all of the movies so far.
Honestly, coming from a person who hasn't read the books, these films are pretty good. Hearing from all the fans, it makes me glad I didn't read the books.
Duneboy
12-20-2009, 11:35 AM
Books & comics (graphic fiction) are always better than their cinematic interpetations. Atleast in my opinion. :ss:
Sam Fisher
12-20-2009, 02:33 PM
Revenge of the Sith is almost as good as the OT movies.
The Joker
12-20-2009, 03:21 PM
Avatar bored me to tears.
Another one of mine:
The Godfather Part III also isn't bad. (Though it is EASILY the weakest of the three.)
El Payaso
12-20-2009, 03:38 PM
Another one of mine:
The Godfather Part III also isn't bad. (Though it is EASILY the weakest of the three.)
I completely absolutely agree.
I completely absolutely agree.
:bow:
Art_of_Crime
12-20-2009, 03:57 PM
I thought
The Departed
Traffic
and
Scarface
were all unwatchable on a massive level
VenomVsSpidey
12-20-2009, 05:04 PM
~ there has never been, nor will there ever be, a perfect trilogy. no matter how good or well liked a 3rd film in a series is, people will complain about it.
~ Van Damme's Street Fighter ain't half bad
~ Although TDK is better made, Batman Returns Is the best BATMAN film.
~ Batman Forever is a pretty decent flick
~ Home Alone 3 is alright.
~ Venom, although my favorite spider-man villian, was given more than he deserved in SM3. can't wait for the spinoff though
~ I want topher grace back as EB.
gwynplaine
12-20-2009, 08:29 PM
~ there has never been, nor will there ever be, a perfect trilogy. no matter how good or well liked a 3rd film in a series is, people will complain about it.
~ Van Damme's Street Fighter ain't half bad
~ Although TDK is better made, Batman Returns Is the best BATMAN film.
~ Batman Forever is a pretty decent flick
~ Home Alone 3 is alright.
~ Venom, although my favorite spider-man villian, was given more than he deserved in SM3. can't wait for the spinoff though
~ I want topher grace back as EB.
The Pusher Trilogy is pretty good actually.
VenomVsSpidey
12-20-2009, 08:55 PM
The Pusher Trilogy is pretty good actually.
never heard of it :p :O
Sam Fisher
12-20-2009, 09:04 PM
-Transformers 1 is a great movie. Did it have a great script? No. Did it have great acting? Nope. But it is entertaining. Plus you can only do so much with a movie based on a 80's cartoon/toy line about talking robots from space.
-Transformers the Animated Movie is terrible.
Duneboy
12-20-2009, 09:14 PM
Xmen 3 could've been a lot worse.
Elizabeth Shannon should've been Mary Jane in the Spidey movies.
Loved Alien 3.
Guyver 2 -dark hero is an awesome movie.
we need a new swampthing movie.
we don't need an F.F. reboot.
Dc should look into doing direct to dvd animated features based on their Vertigo line.
Whatever happened to the new spawn animated show??
Xmen evolution was horrid!
They need to release the 70's live action spidey show onto dvd....the japenese one too.:spidey:
Sam Fisher
12-20-2009, 09:17 PM
They need to release the 70's live action spidey show onto dvd....the japenese one too.:spidey:
:spidey::up:
VenomVsSpidey
12-20-2009, 09:20 PM
Elizabeth Shannon should've been Mary Jane in the Spidey movies.
:spidey:
then we'd never know who spider-man is :awesome:
gwynplaine
12-20-2009, 09:38 PM
never heard of it :p :O
I know. But if you're a cinephile, look it up. (Not for everyone though, pretty violent).
VenomVsSpidey
12-20-2009, 09:50 PM
I know. But if you're a cinephile, look it up. (Not for everyone though, pretty violent).
did....you....say....VIOLENCE? :awesome::awesome:
Sloth7d
12-20-2009, 10:07 PM
~ there has never been, nor will there ever be, a perfect trilogy. no matter how good or well liked a 3rd film in a series is, people will complain about it.
~ Van Damme's Street Fighter ain't half bad
~ Although TDK is better made, Batman Returns Is the best BATMAN film.
~ Batman Forever is a pretty decent flick
~ Home Alone 3 is alright.
~ Venom, although my favorite spider-man villian, was given more than he deserved in SM3. can't wait for the spinoff though
~ I want topher grace back as EB.
People complain about Return of the King?
People complain about Return of the King?Never saw anyone complaining about that -- and if I did, I would've ":doh:" at 'em
Plus, with Return of the King you got proof that a 3rd movie can be the best in a trilogy :up:
Ipodman
12-21-2009, 05:41 AM
Bourne Ultimatum :)
Ipodman
12-21-2009, 06:07 AM
Cant wait for the fourth one yea?
Dr Strange
12-21-2009, 01:47 PM
I thought Avatar was James Cameron's third worst film after True Lies and Piranha II: The Spawning
Dark Victory
12-21-2009, 02:17 PM
Forrest Gump has to be one of the most overrated films of all-time.
The Chairman
12-21-2009, 08:07 PM
Here's another one: Casino Royale doesn't even crack my personal Top 10 when ranking the Bond movies.
VenomVsSpidey
12-21-2009, 08:25 PM
I think Iron Man might be a bit better than the dark knight.
whoa****
The Joker
12-21-2009, 09:33 PM
Batman Forever is way better than Spider-Man 3.
Hobgoblin
12-21-2009, 09:36 PM
Spider-Man 2 isnt terrible but is over rated.
VenomVsSpidey
12-21-2009, 09:45 PM
Batman Forever is way better than Spider-Man 3.
I like them both about the same -
7.9/10
not perfect, lots of cheese, but still enjoyable
Sawyer
12-21-2009, 10:07 PM
Batman Forever is way better than Spider-Man 3.
I dont know if I'd say way better, but I certainly find it more enjoyable.
Parker Wayne
12-22-2009, 10:26 AM
I dont know if I'd say way better, but I certainly find it more enjoyable.
And Batman Forever was still less annoying than Spiderman 3.
Art_of_Crime
12-22-2009, 10:46 AM
Here's another one: Casino Royale doesn't even crack my personal Top 10 when ranking the Bond movies.
quantum of solace ranks in with the George Lazenby film for me. Right down in the bottom 5
I think Avatar's 3D wasn't nearly as good as everyone hyped it up to be. It was better than traditional 3D but it didn't exactly make me feel like I was there in Pandora.
Art_of_Crime
12-22-2009, 12:49 PM
Seth Rogen is not funny
or likable
or adequate
He ruins every movie he is in.
also
Anchor man
and
40 year old virgin
sucked
Blackman
12-22-2009, 01:03 PM
I think Avatar's 3D wasn't nearly as good as everyone hyped it up to be. It was better than traditional 3D but it didn't exactly make me feel like I was there in Pandora.
it did for me
But I'm really getting tired of people acting like Avatar the greatest thing ever. Also I'm tired with the excuse: Who cares that the story is trite or that the dialouge was bad at parts. People need to stop over analyzing movies and learn how to FEEL them and have a good time.
And probably half the people who said that were down the ROTF fans throats for saying the same thing
More Unpopular Opinions
I liked Knocked Up the first time I saw it, but now I dont like it
Eli Roth (save for one scene) was not bad in Inglourious Basterds
Kick Ass doesn't look that interesting
While X-Men: TLS and Spiderman 3 were bad in terms of there series they werent godawful by normal movie standards. Below Average but not terrible
Fantastic Four was a mediocre movie. As opposed to godawful
it did for me.
When you watched it in 3D, did it feel like things were going past you on your sides when they were coming into the foreground. Like people walking and when Jake is wheeling himself past those tables in the beginning.
Parker Wayne
12-22-2009, 03:32 PM
it did for me
But I'm really getting tired of people acting like Avatar the greatest thing ever. Also I'm tired with the excuse: Who cares that the story is trite or that the dialouge was bad at parts. People need to stop over analyzing movies and learn how to FEEL them and have a good time.
And probably half the people who said that were down the ROTF fans throats for saying the same thing
More Unpopular Opinions
I liked Knocked Up the first time I saw it, but now I dont like it
Eli Roth (save for one scene) was not bad in Inglourious Basterds
Kick Ass doesn't look that interesting
While X-Men: TLS and Spiderman 3 were bad in terms of there series they werent godawful by normal movie standards. Below Average but not terrible
Fantastic Four was a mediocre movie. As opposed to godawful
I've actually heard more people trashing Avatar than people loving it. It's not that they didn't like, but I've heard more people (especially in these forums) wanting the film to fail, and wanting to hate it.
And about Knocked up, I don't think thats unpopular, though I may be wrong I started to like it less the more I watched it. The jokes are funny, but the Katherine Heigl and Leslie Mann kinda ruin for me, though it wasn't their fault their characters were written to be so uptight at various points in the movie. I know some people hate Seth Rogen, but I like him. He seems pretty cool.
I agree with you there with Spiderman 3 and X-men: TLS. While they weren't bad films, being a fan of these franchises since I was young makes me dislike these films even more than the average bad film.
Vengeance
12-22-2009, 05:36 PM
I think Iron Man might be a bit better than the dark knight.
whoa****
I hear you brother :up:
I like Batman Forever & Batman: The Movie (West) better than TDK
Sawyer
12-22-2009, 06:02 PM
I dont like Iron Man nearly as much as everyone else seems to. I'm hoping Iron Man II is better.
-Arya-
12-22-2009, 06:07 PM
I dont like Iron Man nearly as much as everyone else seems to. I'm hoping Iron Man II is better.
Likewise in regards to Ironman. Though, I couldn't care less about IM2.
gwynplaine
12-22-2009, 07:43 PM
Batman Forever is way better than Spider-Man 3.
I dislike them both as much.
I've actually heard more people trashing Avatar than people loving it. It's not that they didn't like, but I've heard more people (especially in these forums) wanting the film to fail, and wanting to hate it.
And about Knocked up, I don't think thats unpopular, though I may be wrong I started to like it less the more I watched it. The jokes are funny, but the Katherine Heigl and Leslie Mann kinda ruin for me, though it wasn't their fault their characters were written to be so uptight at various points in the movie. I know some people hate Seth Rogen, but I like him. He seems pretty cool.
I agree with you there with Spiderman 3 and X-men: TLS. While they weren't bad films, being a fan of these franchises since I was young makes me dislike these films even more than the average bad film.
Then cool, It'll be unpopular if I say Avatar is an extraordinary movie.
I hear you brother :up:
I like Batman Forever & Batman: The Movie (West) better than TDK
And B&R too, maybe ?
_ James Cameron is indeed "The King Of The World".
_ Superman 2 was much better than STM. (I'm talking about Richard Lester's version, I haven't seen Donner's one.)
_ Adrian Brody and Larry Fishburne in Predators. Lol:woot:.
_ Quinto was a great Spock and should get a best supporting actor oscar nomination.
El Payaso
12-22-2009, 09:31 PM
Batman Forever is way better than Spider-Man 3.
Ooooooooooh, yes.
All this Batman & Robin and Batman Forever talk made me wanna see 'em again -- for the first time in more than 10 years :o
Obviously, I never bought the dvds..
Blackman
12-22-2009, 09:41 PM
Whedon is INCREDIBLY overrated.
I've said it before but I just watched the first couple of episodes of Buffy and its the definition of mediocre as are most of the things Ive seen that hes done except for Serenity which was just above average
^ yeah, I never understood the praise..
Sawyer
12-22-2009, 09:46 PM
Whedon is INCREDIBLY overrated.
I've said it before but I just watched the first couple of episodes of Buffy and its the definition of mediocre as are most of the things Ive seen that hes done except for Serenity which was just above average
Hey hey hey.... I think you're mistaking the word "unpopular" with the word "wrong". :o
:oldrazz:
gwynplaine
12-22-2009, 11:25 PM
;17867608']All this Batman & Robin and Batman Forever talk made me wanna see 'em again -- for the first time in more than 10 years :o
Obviously, I never bought the dvds..
Enjoy.
Or not. I think they are actually both terrible:woot:
VenomVsSpidey
12-22-2009, 11:46 PM
Enjoy.
Or not. I think they are actually both terrible:woot:
batman forever is pretty good. i think it just has a sour reputation because it was a taste of things to come
returntovoid
12-23-2009, 03:18 AM
Whedon is INCREDIBLY overrated.
I've said it before but I just watched the first couple of episodes of Buffy and its the definition of mediocre as are most of the things Ive seen that hes done except for Serenity which was just above average
Also, I think his Astonishing X-Men comic book was overrated.
I found the first issue of it boring that I did not complete the series.
Enjoy.Yes.. enjoy the fact that I never bought them :hehe: though I missed those neat 2-disc editions...
Art_of_Crime
12-23-2009, 08:57 AM
Also, I think his Astonishing X-Men comic book was overrated.
I found the first issue of it boring that I did not complete the series.
I'm watching the motion comic on hulu, and i am a little underwhelmed. It is really the same old same old. X-Men comics tend to fall into a rut.
Wolvie is pissed at Cyclops
Cyclops is distracted by women
Beast wants to be human
Some alien enemy is causing trouble
People never understand mutants, even though they are fine with non born mutants like Spider-man and the Fantastic Four.
blah blah blah
wash rinse repeat.
El Payaso
12-23-2009, 12:07 PM
;17867608']All this Batman & Robin and Batman Forever talk made me wanna see 'em again -- for the first time in more than 10 years :o
Obviously, I never bought the dvds..
So we'll have you posting in the "What was the last TERRIBLE movie(s) you saw?" quite soon, [A]. :yay:
gwynplaine
12-23-2009, 12:14 PM
So we'll have you posting in the "What was the last TERRIBLE movie(s) you saw?" quite soon, [A]. :yay:
Lol:woot:.
Art_of_Crime
12-23-2009, 12:37 PM
After Donnie Darko I was left feeling hollow, tired and unfulfilled
Art_of_Crime
12-23-2009, 12:37 PM
After Donnie Darko I was left feeling hollow, tired and unfulfilled
Vengeance
12-23-2009, 01:27 PM
I dislike them both as much.
Then cool, It'll be unpopular if I say Avatar is an extraordinary movie.
And B&R too, maybe ?
haha, no B&R is a 2/10 or 3/10 if its lucky, everytime I watch TDK I think its worse, first time I actually thought it was great now after 4 watches I think its down to just good. And the whole point of the thread is to say your unpopular opinions.
Blackman
12-23-2009, 01:39 PM
I've actually heard more people trashing Avatar than people loving it. It's not that they didn't like, but I've heard more people (especially in these forums) wanting the film to fail, and wanting to hate it.
And about Knocked up, I don't think thats unpopular, though I may be wrong I started to like it less the more I watched it. The jokes are funny, but the Katherine Heigl and Leslie Mann kinda ruin for me, though it wasn't their fault their characters were written to be so uptight at various points in the movie. I know some people hate Seth Rogen, but I like him. He seems pretty cool.
I agree with you there with Spiderman 3 and X-men: TLS. While they weren't bad films, being a fan of these franchises since I was young makes me dislike these films even more than the average bad film.
Knocked Up is like by most ppl at least in my experience thats why I thought it was unpopular. And I agree Heigl and Mann made it alot worse, they were just straight annoying
I like Rogen too an't wait for whatever his next movie is. Green Hornet right?
nogap87
12-23-2009, 01:49 PM
Bryan Singer is not a good superhero movie director. At all. Why he gets so much love is beyond me.
gwynplaine
12-23-2009, 05:28 PM
haha, no B&R is a 2/10 or 3/10 if its lucky, everytime I watch TDK I think its worse, first time I actually thought it was great now after 4 watches I think its down to just good. And the whole point of the thread is to say your unpopular opinions.
Agreed, of course:up:.
(But at the rate this TDK backlash seems to be going on SHH, soon the unpopular opinion might be to still love the movie. (In the Joker's voice : "Like me !"):woot:
So we'll have you posting in the "What was the last TERRIBLE movie(s) you saw?" quite soon, [A]. :yay:..check that thread's last page -- you'll see two posts from me, in a row :hehe:
gwynplaine
12-23-2009, 07:09 PM
_ "Children of Men" is one of the most beautifully shot movie I've ever seen. But I find the story pretty full of cliches and writer's conveniences, and Clive Owen is a boring leading man. I still enjoyed it and liked it very much though, mostly from a technical standpoint. (But as far as cautionary scifi parables go, I prefer The Road Warrior or Soylent Green.)
_ JGL was a terrible villain in GI Joe. I hope he doesn't come near the Joker. (He's probably a good actor though, so never say never:woot:)
_ I don't like OHMSS and thought Lazenby was the worst Bond with Dalton. John Barry's score for the movie, on the other hand, is a masterpiece.
_ Live and let die and The spy who loved me are great Bond films. Moore was actually a pretty good Bond, my 3rd favorite one.
_ The first two Evil Dead movies are awesome, the 3rd one, not so much.
_ Certainly not as good as the original but I enjoyed the remake of the wicker man.
Sam Fisher
12-23-2009, 07:24 PM
Peter Jackson's King Kong is a good movie. It just suffers from a unessacery 3 hour running time.
gwynplaine
12-23-2009, 07:46 PM
Peter Jackson's King Kong is a good movie. It just suffers from a unessacery 3 hour running time.
Agreed. It also suffers from miscasting, namely Brody and Black.
But everything about Kong and the relationship between Kong and Naomie Watts was awesome. Jackson really nailed "The Beauty and The Beast" heart of the story. And of course that fight between Kong and the T Rexes was legendary.
Art_of_Crime
12-23-2009, 09:52 PM
Peter Jackson's King Kong is a good movie. It just suffers from a unessacery 3 hour running time.
It also suffers from being a 3rd generation remake of a story everyone knows by heart
Homer J. Fong
12-23-2009, 11:29 PM
-I think the Star Wars prequels are actually all very good; okay, I and II are far from perfect, but there are some great elements in each of them, and for my money, III is as good as any of them.
-I like Batman Forever and X-Men: The Last Stand (much less than their predecessors, but still).
-I don't much care for Die Hard 2, but really enjoy With a Vengeance.
-I feel Blade Runner's pretty overrated: good film, sure, but it's not the be-all-end-all of dystopian sci-fi.
-Megan Fox is hot, but she's not THAT hot.
-If she'd had the right script and an actual director, I think Halle Berry could have made a decent (Selina Kyle) Catwoman.
Dark Victory
12-24-2009, 01:08 AM
Peter Jackson's King Kong, especially the extended edition, is a seriously underrated film.
Homer J. Fong
12-24-2009, 11:35 AM
^I forgot there was an extended cut. If ever there was a movie not in need of an extended edition...(I liked it, but it felt about an hour too long.)
El Payaso
12-24-2009, 11:45 AM
^I forgot there was an extended cut. If ever there was a movie not in need of an extended edition...(I liked it, but it felt about an hour too long.)
And then some. I wonder what other wonders could extra footage do for this film. Unless it's only King Kong fighting footage there's nothing else I could want to see there.
..and I didn't even know there was an extended cut :doh:
El Payaso
12-24-2009, 02:39 PM
It's Peter Jackson, and you didn't know?
I know :o shame on me
(I think they're probably never released the extended cut in my country and that's why I never knew, heh)
It's funny how I own Peter Jackson's King Kong but still haven't watched it since the theatre. Whenever I feel like watching a King Kong film I always grab the original.
- I think Batman Forever is quite harshly criticised.
- I think Jim Carrey was a great Riddler whom I'd happily welcome back as the character with Nolan's "real world" twist thrown into the mix.
- I thought Tommy Lee Jones was decent enough as Two-Face as well.
- I liked Transformers: ROTF for what it is, 2 hours of robots smashing each other up.
- I don't think the twins from Transformers: ROFL where racist.
- I liked 'The Indredible Hulk' better than the original 'Hulk' by Ang Lee & I'd love to have seen a sequel.
- I actually like most of Michael Bay's films :O
Thats all I can think off for now..
Tron Bonne
12-24-2009, 06:51 PM
-I loved The Fountain to death. Probably one of my favorite movies of all time and even three years later I still enjoy it as much as the first time I watched it. I do understand why it splits opinion down the middle, but I hope in the future it will be rediscovered.
-I didn't care much for The Departed. I didn't hate it, but found myself counting clock ticks in the last half hour or so.
-Most of the recent Apatow directed and produced that's murdered the box office I don't like.
- I liked 'The Indredible Hulk' better than the original 'Hulk' by Ang Lee & I'd love to have seen a sequel.
I doubt that's really an unpopular opinion. I'd say the reverse would probably be more unpopular
I loved The Fountain to death. Probably one of my favorite movies of all time and even three years later I still enjoy it as much as the first time I watched it. I do understand why it splits opinion down the middle, but I hope in the future it will be rediscovered:up:
gwynplaine
12-24-2009, 07:04 PM
-I didn't care much for The Departed. I didn't hate it, but found myself counting clock ticks in the last half hour or so.
:up:
deathshead2
12-24-2009, 08:17 PM
The Hangover is yet another movie that I don't find funny one bit. I can see where it would be funny to people, but I've seen it all before. Sadly another case of the trailer is great the movie might as well be an Asylum movie.
And I never find overly swearing for no reason funny.
VenomVsSpidey
12-24-2009, 09:34 PM
-I think the Star Wars prequels are actually all very good; okay, I and II are far from perfect, but there are some great elements in each of them, and for my money, III is as good as any of them.
-I like Batman Forever and X-Men: The Last Stand (much less than their predecessors, but still).
-Megan Fox is hot, but she's not THAT hot.
-If she'd had the right script and an actual director, I think Halle Berry could have made a decent (Selina Kyle) Catwoman.
:up: to all that
I think that Ang Lee's :bh: isn't too shabby, but TIH is better.
It should be a crime for someone to criticize Raimi, then recommend James cameron
Dunst IS a good MJ, and she's not ugly either.
SM3, while not as better made as SM2, is the best of the franchise.
El Payaso
12-25-2009, 12:11 AM
It should be a crime for someone to criticize Raimi, then recommend James cameron
No. Just unpopular. And I do.
gwynplaine
12-25-2009, 12:26 AM
Yeah, me too.
VenomVsSpidey
12-25-2009, 12:33 AM
you havent seen his script for spider-man have you?
Dark Victory
12-25-2009, 12:46 AM
you havent seen his script for spider-man have you?
I'm pretty sure that his Spider-Man script was just one big tongue-in-cheek joke. Basically just for ****s and giggles...
VenomVsSpidey
12-25-2009, 01:49 AM
I'm pretty sure that his Spider-Man script was just one big tongue-in-cheek joke. Basically just for ****s and giggles...
If it was, I'm still not laughing...
I doubt that's really an unpopular opinion. I'd say the reverse would probably be more unpopular
Ahh, I was under the impression more Hulk comic fans prefared Ang Lee's version. :huh:
xmenfilesfan05
12-25-2009, 07:45 PM
Hugh Jackman has become corporate Hollywood's tool...there I said it.
Tron Bonne
12-26-2009, 12:07 PM
Ahh, I was under the impression more Hulk comic fans prefared Ang Lee's version. :huh:
Really? I thought that most people really didn't like that version, especially compared to the much more Hulk-like Incredible Hulk
HULK is awesome. Of course, it's underrated. The clumsy TIH is preferred by fans because it's gott l0tsa acti0n man!!!1 hi 5!!
Blackman
12-26-2009, 02:35 PM
TIH was more interesting not just because of the action but because 1) The villain wasnt lame, 2) its not too long or too slow, 4) Better looking hulk 5) Better actor as Banner
and then of course the action which if something is an ACTION film you should try to have a good amount of it in there. Hulk 2003 :down: TIH is my favorite Marvel comic film after Iron Man and X2
The only thing I liked from 2003 was Connoly as Betty and Hulks superleaps and superspeed
To each their own, all that crap :D
Max Newlander
12-26-2009, 03:24 PM
1. I have a real issue with The Shawshank Redemption, I'm aware redemption is in the title, however the fact I'm supposed to care about all these long-sentence convicts, who plainly are in prison as they have commited serious crimes annoys me. Obviously the main character is excluded (wrongfully convicted). This is a deeply hated view of mine by others as EVERYONE loves Shawshank. I do appreciate its a good movie though (slight contradiction on my part)
2. I think Robert Downey Jnr is rather overated, I also think Iron Man and Tropic Thunder are average movies at best.
3. I didn't think that the new Star Trek was even nearly as good as what others (the vast majority) thought. It's a one watch movie to me with a very weak plot. Most of the OST movies are better (I'm not a trekkie for the record)
4. I love "The Chronicles of Riddick", the style, direction and action. Don't really know anyone who strongly agree's with me on that one.
5. I haven't really enjoyed a Spielberg moves since Schindler's List, and I TOTALLY detest A.I. with a PASSION. Also the new WOTW, no no no no. He has lost his way BIG time.
5. I haven't really enjoyed a Spielberg moves since Schindler's List, and I TOTALLY detest A.I. with a PASSION. Also the new WOTW, no no no no. He has lost his way BIG time..like Ridley Scott, Scorsese, and others..
Tron Bonne
12-26-2009, 03:52 PM
;17877951']HULK is awesome. Of course, it's underrated. The clumsy TIH is preferred by fans because it's gott l0tsa acti0n man!!!1 hi 5!!
That's what I thought, too. Seemed like most fans liked the newer version because it was pretty much what most people wanted from a Hulk movie. Though, I agree with you, I liked Hulk better
gwynplaine
12-26-2009, 07:02 PM
you havent seen his script for spider-man have you?
No.
Anyway, I think that Raimi, and his brother Ivan, are pretty bad screenwriters. Raimi should stick to filming and leave the writing to someone else.
Hugh Jackman has become corporate Hollywood's tool...there I said it.
:huh:.
Isn't it called Show Business ?
;17878090']..like Ridley Scott, Scorsese, and others..
QFT, unfortunately.
That's what I thought, too. Seemed like most fans liked the newer version because it was pretty much what most people wanted from a Hulk movie. Though, I agree with you, I liked Hulk better
Yeah, even though it was prettyy flawed, I liked Hulk better too.
I think Ang Lee is a better director than Leterrier. (I liked the Clash of the Titans trailer though and still hope it will be a fun, entertaining movie.)
OK, unpopular, let's go.
_ I didn't like Sherlock Holmes that much. There were some good things in it, Downey was his usual charming self of course, but Richie cannot really film action, it was played for comedy too much and Watson really had nothing to do (Law is also charming but I had a hard time believing in him as a badass war veteran.) Anyway, I still hope there is a sequel and that they get it right this time, kind of like BB to TDK (Moriarty being the Joker), because Holmes is a great hero and RDJ the right guy to play him. Fingers crossed.
_ Judd Apatow is overrated.
_ Johnny Depp was a pretty bad Dillinger. And Michael Mann is also overrated.
_ Viggo Mortensen deserves even more credit.
Blackman
12-26-2009, 07:05 PM
Public Enemies was a bad film.
gwynplaine
12-26-2009, 07:07 PM
public enemies was a bad film.
qft.
Sloth7d
12-26-2009, 08:56 PM
I don't think that opinions unpopular, but I agree with it since you guys brought it up.
Sam Fisher
12-26-2009, 11:04 PM
Indy 4 is better than Temple of Doom.
VenomVsSpidey
12-27-2009, 02:16 AM
Indy 4 is better than Temple of Doom.
well, I haven't actually seen any of the other indiana jones movies..some bits and pieces of Raiders, but not the whole thing..I know guys.. :facepalm:
but I think that IJ4 : KOTCS wasn't bad...at all, nor was it anywhere near as bad as people made it out to be.
mine : I liked the SW Prequels. TPM & AOTC weren't AMAZING, but I still really enjoyed it. loved the **** outta ROTS.
Parker Wayne
12-27-2009, 11:58 AM
well, I haven't actually seen any of the other indiana jones movies..some bits and pieces of Raiders, but not the whole thing..I know guys.. :facepalm:
but I think that IJ4 : KOTCS wasn't bad...at all, nor was it anywhere near as bad as people made it out to be.
mine : I liked the SW Prequels. TPM & AOTC weren't AMAZING, but I still really enjoyed it. loved the **** outta ROTS.
Meh, I always felt that they were TPM and AOTC were okay films, but were kinda useless after watching ROTS. They could've easily put in flashbacks of TPM and AOTC in Revenge of the Sith, taken out cheesy romantic scenes, and it would've made Revenge of the Sith an even more greater film. Btw, I like Revenge of the Sith despite Hayden Christenson's acting.
-Arya-
12-27-2009, 12:00 PM
;17878090']..like Ridley Scott, Scorsese, and others..
I thought Munich, The Aviator and American Gangster were great.
returntovoid
12-27-2009, 12:17 PM
I thought Munich, The Aviator and American Gangster were great.
The Departed was great, too.
-Arya-
12-27-2009, 12:35 PM
The Departed was great, too.
It was good. But not Best Picture worthy imo. The Aviator I felt was superior.
gwynplaine
12-27-2009, 02:40 PM
It was good. But not Best Picture worthy imo. The Aviator I felt was superior.
I agree, specially about the part about the aviator being superior. And I really liked Munich too.
(That drunk Welles video in your sig is both funny and sad at the same time.)
-Arya-
12-27-2009, 02:51 PM
(That drunk Welles video in your sig is both funny and sad at the same time.)
Tell me about it. Though I died laughing more so than feeling sadness...:oldrazz:
gwynplaine
12-27-2009, 05:37 PM
Yeah, I have to admit, I was more amused than I was sad.:hehe:
In my eyes, King Kong is Peter Jacksons greatest achievement. I still love the LOTR franchise, but King Kong is very underrated.
Ace of Knaves
12-27-2009, 08:01 PM
TIH was more interesting not just because of the action but because 1) The villain wasnt lame, 2) its not too long or too slow, 4) Better looking hulk 5) Better actor as Banner
and then of course the action which if something is an ACTION film you should try to have a good amount of it in there. Hulk 2003 :down: TIH is my favorite Marvel comic film after Iron Man and X2
The only thing I liked from 2003 was Connoly as Betty and Hulks superleaps and superspeed
THe action in TIH didn't really impress me. I mean, did you see the scene where Tim Roth was sprinting across that field at the school? Christ almighty, cheesy or what? lol.
The desert scene in Ang's Hulk is one of the best action scenes in any comic book movie...ever. And it actually felt like Hulk, jumping for miles at a time. Landing somewhere quiet and looking like a fascinated child when he looks at his own reflection. The look of peace on his face when he is soaring through the air etc.
What did TIH have? Oh yea, A-Bomb and "Hulk SMASH!" Ehh not really that impressive.
Oh and in TIH Gen Ross was completely mischaracterized.
5. I haven't really enjoyed a Spielberg moves since Schindler's List, and I TOTALLY detest A.I. with a PASSION. Also the new WOTW, no no no no. He has lost his way BIG time.
So Munich, Minority Report, Catch Me if you Can and Saving Private Ryan are all crap yea?
Err...no.
Seriously I know it's all opinions but when someone disses Spielberg they are wrong, simple as that. All directors have a couple of duds. But to say he has lost his way BIG time? Just, no.
deathshead2
12-27-2009, 08:22 PM
We know how you love the big SS. Compared to his old work Jaws through S list. All his 2000 work is very, very weak. If I were to watch Minority Report, Saving Private Ryan, War of the Worlds, and Muinch in a row...I would give up being a movie fan. To me thats like sitting through every bad Sci Fi channel movie in a row. Just a horribe experience.
And to keep up with the unpopular opinion. I thought The Terminal was a good movie. It feels like a movie anyone can do, and mos def doesn't feel like your usual SS movie. Still good though.
Hook was also good, and also not his weakest movie like alot of people say. I would say Duel is and forever will be his weakest, worst movie, but to stick with movies that went to theaters in the US. War of the Worlds will still be to me his weakest, in theaters movie.
Ralph Bakshi is underrated animated movie director, and really should have made more. At least we got what we got.
Ace of Knaves
12-27-2009, 08:31 PM
Wait...you are saying Minority Report, Munich and Saving Private Ryan belong with those crappy made for TV films?!?!
VenomVsSpidey
12-27-2009, 08:36 PM
So Munich, Minority Report, Catch Me if you Can and Saving Private Ryan are all crap yea?
Err...no.
Seriously I know it's all opinions but when someone disses Spielberg they are wrong, simple as that. All directors have a couple of duds. But to say he has lost his way BIG time? Just, no.
even his box-office / critical flop HOOK, which is 100% BADASS, might I add, is considered to be among one of his most underrated films (and I never did, nor still understand why it has a bad rep., it's amazing)
deathshead2
12-27-2009, 08:44 PM
Wait...you are saying Minority Report, Munich and Saving Private Ryan belong with those crappy made for TV films?!?!Not in quality, but in enterainment value I do.
Blackman
12-27-2009, 08:46 PM
THe action in TIH didn't really impress me. I mean, did you see the scene where Tim Roth was sprinting across that field at the school? Christ almighty, cheesy or what? lol.
The desert scene in Ang's Hulk is one of the best action scenes in any comic book movie...ever. And it actually felt like Hulk, jumping for miles at a time. Landing somewhere quiet and looking like a fascinated child when he looks at his own reflection. The look of peace on his face when he is soaring through the air etc.
What did TIH have? Oh yea, A-Bomb and "Hulk SMASH!" Ehh not really that impressive.
Oh and in TIH Gen Ross was completely mischaracterized.
How is it cheesy? Its not like he tried to do a one liner or something. he was just...running
The desert scene was alright but the College fight scene in TIH was better IMO
And the dialouge was much better in TIH as well as pacing and it had a heart. I know Hulk is a dark character but I didnt care for Hulk/Banner in Hulk 03 while in TIH I did. I also credit that to Norton's performance
deathshead2
12-27-2009, 08:50 PM
True Lies is boring.
And some of The Puppet Master movies are the best dtv movies.
gwynplaine
12-27-2009, 09:02 PM
Indy 4 is better than Temple of Doom.
Though pretty imperfect (Short Round etc.), Temple of Doom is even better than Last Crusade.:o
In my eyes, King Kong is Peter Jacksons greatest achievement. I still love the LOTR franchise, but King Kong is very underrated.
Jackson's KK is great, even though pretty flawed (Jack Black, Adrian Brody etc.) it's a true labor of love and second only to 1933's King Kong.
even his box-office / critical flop HOOK, which is 100% BADASS, might I add, is considered to be among one of his most underrated films (and I never did, nor still understand why it has a bad rep., it's amazing)
Hook was pretty bad. But it's the unpopular thread, so kudos.
Wait...you are saying Minority Report, Munich and Saving Private Ryan belong with those crappy made for TV films?!?!
Munich is awesome, Saving Private Ryan is a classic, one of the greatest war films ever. However Minority Report sucked unfortunately.
_ Ang Lee's Hulk was not great but still better than Leterrier's soulless movie.
deathshead2
12-27-2009, 09:10 PM
For effects, cool editing, and umm drama. Ang Lees Hulk is where its at. If this were an alternate universe where the oscars weren't run poorly I think it would have been nominated.
TLH is where its at for popcorn style action.
Blackman
12-27-2009, 09:11 PM
TIH is also better if you dont want to fall asleep
deathshead2
12-27-2009, 09:12 PM
Runaway Train is yet another piece of Cannon trash. How the hell it was nominated for any oscar is a mystery.
Sawyer
12-27-2009, 09:18 PM
TIH is also better if you dont want to fall asleep
This is true. I mean come on! It's the ****ing Hulk!!! I got all I'd ever want from a Hulk movie out of TIH. Having said that, there are parts of Bana's Hulk that I still like.
Tron Bonne
12-27-2009, 09:50 PM
I guess I have different expectations for what I want in a Hulk movie, but I felt Ang Lee's movie delivered that.
Jackson's KK is great, even though pretty flawed (Jack Black, Adrian Brody etc.) it's a true labor of love and second only to 1933's King Kong.
Indeed. The original is my favorite movie of all time. That why I love Jackson's version, it's handled with care and respect for the original. Unlike another version which I shall not name...
Max J Power
12-27-2009, 11:11 PM
I think Iron Man might be a bit better than the dark knight.
whoa****
-I'll see that and raise you an "Iron Man was hands down better than The Dark Knight, as both an adaptation and an overall movie."
-Jack Black's performance in King Kong was pretty good.
-Will Ferrell is a better actor than he gets credit for, but he's rarely in movies that show it, like Stranger Than Fiction. Which is underrated.
-Although he has limited range, Guy Ritchie is a talented director. All four movies of his I've seen (Lock Stock, Snatch, RocknRolla, and Sherlock Holmes) are better than they get credit for.
-I found The Informant both engaging and hilarious.
Sam Fisher
12-28-2009, 12:44 AM
I defenitely enjoyed Iron Man more than the Dark Knight{not that TDK was a bad movie}.
gwynplaine
12-28-2009, 07:21 PM
True Lies is boring.
Still much better than the original french version "La Totale."
Anyway, I have to see it again but not that many movies can stand the test of time.
Indeed. The original is my favorite movie of all time. That why I love Jackson's version, it's handled with care and respect for the original. Unlike another version which I shall not name...
Me too. One of them. Jackson offered the world a fantastic Kong. His relationship with Ann was also perfect, "Beauty and the Beast" indeed. Black as a young Orson Wellesian type and Brody as an "intellectual action hero", not so much.
_ Quantum of Solace is a pretty bad Bond movie.
_ The Bourne movies were entertaining but not great.
_ Where the wild things are and Fantastic Mr Fox were interesting but really not great.
_ Up In The Air was not as good as I thought it would be.
_ Guy Ritchie is not a great director.
_ After seeing the Kill Bill movies and Deathproof, I thought Tarantino was a fraud, but then I saw Inglourious Basterds and he redeemed himself, in my eyes.
_ Sherlock Holmes could have been so much better.
Sloth7d
12-28-2009, 07:53 PM
Still much better than the original french version "La Totale."
Anyway, I have to see it again but not that many movies can stand the test of time.
Me too. One of them. Jackson offered the world a fantastic Kong. His relationship with Ann was also perfect, "Beauty and the Beast" indeed. Black as a young Orson Wellesian type and Brody as an "intellectual action hero", not so much.
_ Quantum of Solace is a pretty bad Bond movie.
_ The Bourne movies were entertaining but not great.
_ Where the wild things are and Fantastic Mr Fox were interesting but really not great.
_ Up In The Air was not as good as I thought it would be.
_ Guy Ritchie is not a great director.
_ After seeing the Kill Bill movies and Deathproof, I thought Tarantino was a fraud, but then I saw Inglourious Basterds and he redeemed himself, in my eyes.
_ Sherlock Holmes could have been so much better.
:up:
deathshead2
12-28-2009, 08:15 PM
Still much better than the original french version "La Totale."
Anyway, I have to see it again but not that many movies can stand the test of time.
I can't judge it as I haven't see La Totale. In fact, I cann't find anything proving that movie exists besides its IMDB page and mention in True Lies. Not one clip on youtube.
Thank You for Smoking is better than Juno in everyway possible.
gwynplaine
12-28-2009, 08:22 PM
I can't judge it as I haven't see La Totale. In fact, I cann't find anything proving that movie exists besides its IMDB page and mention in True Lies. Not one clip on youtube.
Thank You for Smoking is better than Juno in everyway possible.
_ It does exist, unfortunately. And it sucks.
_ Yes it is. It's also better than Up In The Air.
gwynplaine
12-28-2009, 08:43 PM
Edit.
Parker Wayne
12-29-2009, 03:20 PM
-I'll see that and raise you an "Iron Man was hands down better than The Dark Knight, as both an adaptation and an overall movie."
-Jack Black's performance in King Kong was pretty good.
-Will Ferrell is a better actor than he gets credit for, but he's rarely in movies that show it, like Stranger Than Fiction. Which is underrated.
-Although he has limited range, Guy Ritchie is a talented director. All four movies of his I've seen (Lock Stock, Snatch, RocknRolla, and Sherlock Holmes) are better than they get credit for.
-I found The Informant both engaging and hilarious.
:up: and I will give you that Iron Man was a better adaptation.
Thank You for Smoking is better than Juno in everyway possible.
Even though I agree that Thank you for Smoking was the better movie, I still love Juno much more.
gwynplaine
12-29-2009, 06:36 PM
_ Jeff Goldblum was very annoying in Jurassic Park. (Jeff Goldblum is always annoying, except in The Fly and Invasion of the Body Snatchers.)
_ Predator and Aliens are dated. Alien and The Thing, on the other hand, are timeless classics.
_ Blade Runner is boring. Rutger Hauer was a much better villain in The Hitcher.
_ Robocop is the movie Judge Dredd should have been, but JD still had some cool moments in it and Stallone was not that bad actually.
_ Stallone is an underrated actor, just watch the 1st Rocky and Copland.
_ I wish someone else than Raimi would direct the next Spiderman movie.
VenomVsSpidey
12-29-2009, 08:04 PM
that although he gave a badass preformance, heath ledger was NOT the villian of the decade, nor did he rule it like the one thread suggests.
Tron Bonne
12-29-2009, 08:12 PM
I didn't like the Watchmen movie all that much. It wasn't as bad as I expected it to end up being, but overall, I still thought it was pretty weak.
that although he gave a badass preformance, heath ledger was NOT the villian of the decade, nor did he rule it like the one thread suggests.
Agreed.
El Payaso
12-29-2009, 08:20 PM
I didn't like the Watchmen movie all that much. It wasn't as bad as I expected it to end up being, but overall, I still thought it was pretty weak.
:up:
It was okay, but that's it.
Sawyer
12-29-2009, 08:34 PM
that although he gave a badass preformance, heath ledger was NOT the villian of the decade, nor did he rule it like the one thread suggests.
Mmm... perhaps. But he was certainly in the top 10.
VenomVsSpidey
12-29-2009, 08:38 PM
I'll give you that. maybe..3rd or 4th
gwynplaine
12-29-2009, 08:39 PM
Unpopular:up:.
deathshead2
12-29-2009, 08:40 PM
Avatar was boring.
Kingfish
12-29-2009, 08:42 PM
Sixteen years later and Mask of the Phantasm is still the best Batman movie ever made.
deathshead2
12-29-2009, 08:43 PM
Sixteen years later and Mask of the Phantasm is still the best Batman movie ever made.
True dat.
Tron Bonne
12-29-2009, 08:45 PM
Sixteen years later and Mask of the Phantasm is still the best Batman movie ever made.
:up:
Kingfish
12-29-2009, 09:01 PM
Oh. Apparently that wasn't unpopular enough.
The Joker
12-29-2009, 09:18 PM
Avatar was boring.
Amen to that.
Spider-ManHero12
12-29-2009, 09:24 PM
Originally Posted by deathshead2 http://www.superherohype.com/drakon/skins/shhclassic/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=17888658#post17888658)
Avatar was boring.
I pretty much agree. Great CGI, but..meh.
El Payaso
12-29-2009, 09:27 PM
_ Jeff Goldblum was very annoying in Jurassic Park. (Jeff Goldblum is always annoying, except in The Fly and Invasion of the Body Snatchers.)
I'm almost sure this was already discussed in this thread but I have to agree again. Goldblum's scientist was annoying and then some more.
I'll go as far as to say that, other than Sam Neill and his girlfriend (and maybe Samuel Jackson and Wayne "Newman" Knight) everybody in Jurassic Park was but a rather annoying character. I was devastated none of the children died in pain.
_ I wish someone else than Raimi would direct the next Spiderman movie.
Oh yes. Please.
Dark Victory
12-29-2009, 09:34 PM
Jackson's KK is great, even though pretty flawed (Jack Black, Adrian Brody etc.) it's a true labor of love and second only to 1933's King Kong.
I can definitely agree to that. As much as I like the film, Black and Brody were miscast and their characters could've been developed in a better fashion, some of the editing techniques could've been left out, and the dialogue can be tedious. Though, you can tell that Jackson poured his heart and soul into the film. I'm completely lost on how some think the 1979 remake is better.:dry:
I didn't like Brody, but I didn't hate Jack Black. Carl could have been casted better, yes, but I didn't hate his performance as much as I did Brody's.
Dark Victory
12-29-2009, 10:02 PM
I didn't like Brody, but I didn't hate Jack Black. Carl could have been casted better, yes, but I didn't hate his performance as much as I did Brody's.
I haven't watched it in awhile, maybe I took too much against Black because of the character. Though, it's fair to say no performance of Carl Denham will ever hold a candle to Robert Armstrong's.
Very true.
"Ever since a trip I made to Africa. I'd have got a swell picture of a charging rhino, but the cameraman got scared. The darn fool, I was right there with a rifle! Seems he didn't trust me to get the rhino before it got him. I haven't fooled with a cameraman since; I do it myself."
VenomVsSpidey
12-29-2009, 11:08 PM
I'm almost sure this was already discussed in this thread but I have to agree again. Goldblum's scientist was annoying and then some more.
Oh yes. Please.
if you read the book, you'd know he was supposed to be annoying...:hehe:
Max J Power
12-30-2009, 12:33 AM
Thank You for Smoking is better than Juno in everyway possible.
Indeed. It's a really good satire.
El Payaso
12-30-2009, 05:22 AM
I didn't like Brody, but I didn't hate Jack Black. Carl could have been casted better, yes, but I didn't hate his performance as much as I did Brody's.
I can agree that bopth were bad. Brody was insipid and Jack Black just limited himself to do the only thing that he can do; painfully trying to be funny.
This was a great chance to expand Denham's character and show both his greed, ambition and artistic hunger, as the script suggested. But no, Black only did his usual "funny" faces and tried to provoke a laugh or two (in my case no laugh at all) instead of doing a deep portrayal of his character.
I can definitely agree to that. As much as I like the film, Black and Brody were miscast and their characters could've been developed in a better fashion, some of the editing techniques could've been left out, and the dialogue can be tedious. Though, you can tell that Jackson poured his heart and soul into the film. I'm completely lost on how some think the 1979 remake is better.:dry:
Jackson might have put a lot of effort and be an original King Kong movie fan, but at least the 1976 version - not being a masterpiece or anything - got the King Kong-blonde girl relationship better than Jackson's, who made it an unwillingly hilarious sweetened up romance.
On the previous versions, Kong scared Ann a lot, and even when they got along, the fear factor was still there because, you know, he is an unpredictable giant gorilla.
Jackson just took him down to the average Disney-like loveable pet (when he's with Ann). The "beautiful" sunset scene was for em simply the last straw. I much prefer the 1976's take on how Ann (well, Dwan) understood Kong and cried over his death, but at least - unlike in Jackson's movie - she was in love with the human more than with the monster.
if you read the book, you'd know he was supposed to be annoying...:hehe:
Aaaah, didn't know that.
But anyways, on mvoies you better have annoying but likeable. And, as I said, it got to me that most of characters in that movie were annoying. Specially the kids, but that happens in almost every Spielberg movie (the annoying kids I mean).
Aesop Rocks
12-30-2009, 08:40 AM
For the most part, I hate indie hipster garbage. Mainly because of Juno. I love Up In The Air and Thank You For Smoking but Juno is just terrible. Michael Cera and Ellen Page are the indie hipster movement in actors and I hate them. I hate how I can't shake how pretentious Ellen Page comes off from that role, implying every girl with any decent sense of "good music" is like that. I mean, I like the story behind Juno but why it had to be an indie hipster couple is beyond me. Saying that, I know I'll get flak for 500 Days of Summer because they're both indie hipsters. But 500 Days of Summer is completely different from Juno, far better casting, acting, story, etc etc. I'd rather watch Zooey Deschanel and Joesph Gordon-Levitt together than Ellen Page and Michael Cera anyday.
Just my two cents.
The Navigator
12-30-2009, 08:50 AM
For the most part, I hate indie hipster garbage. Mainly because of Juno. I love Up In The Air and Thank You For Smoking but Juno is just terrible. Michael Cera and Ellen Page are the indie hipster movement in actors and I hate them. I hate how I can't shake how pretentious Ellen Page comes off from that role, implying every girl with any decent sense of "good music" is like that. I mean, I like the story behind Juno but why it had to be an indie hipster couple is beyond me. Saying that, I know I'll get flak for 500 Days of Summer because they're both indie hipsters. But 500 Days of Summer is completely different from Juno, far better casting, acting, story, etc etc. I'd rather watch Zooey Deschanel and Joesph Gordon-Levitt together than Ellen Page and Michael Cera anyday.
Just my two cents.
I like the sheer amount of venom aimed at Juno in this post. :up:
Aesop Rocks
12-30-2009, 08:52 AM
Meanie. :csad:
Sentinel X
12-30-2009, 08:54 AM
I hate Michael Cera ("Look at me...I'm dating a girl and Im a really awkward guy in high school/college. Laugh at my awkwardness....now give me millions!")
And Will Ferrell ("I suck at sports..haha...I really suck...now give me millions!")
Aesop Rocks
12-30-2009, 08:57 AM
I heard Will Ferrell did a dramatic role and he was actually amazing in it.
gwynplaine
12-30-2009, 11:25 AM
I can agree that bopth were bad. Brody was insipid and Jack Black just limited himself to do the only thing that he can do; painfully trying to be funny.
This was a great chance to expand Denham's character and show both his greed, ambition and artistic hunger, as the script suggested. But no, Black only did his usual "funny" faces and tried to provoke a laugh or two (in my case no laugh at all) instead of doing a deep portrayal of his character.[ QUOTE]
I agree too. But I also don't think the character of Denham was that well written either, not that Black had the adequate range to pull off a young Orson Welles/Hustler type anyway. Between Brody and Black, there is some serious miscasting going on in this movie.
On the other hand, I thought that Watts did a great job as Ann and, unlike you, I was moved by her relation with Kong, another beautiful performance by Serkis and another great WETA achievement. Of course it's not very realistic, but it is a "Beauty and the Beast" tale after all and, like I said before, a true labor of love on Jackson's part.
[QUOTE=El Payaso;17889728]Jackson might have put a lot of effort and be an original King Kong movie fan, but at least the 1976 version - not being a masterpiece or anything - got the King Kong-blonde girl relationship better than Jackson's, who made it an unwillingly hilarious sweetened up romance.[QUOTE]
Besides Jessica Lange's breasts, I don't remember much of 1976's KK.
[QUOTE=El Payaso;17889728]she was in love with the human more than with the monster.[QUOTE]
When the human looks like Brody, you go with the monster:woot:.
[QUOTE=El Payaso;17889728]
Aaaah, didn't know that.
But anyways, on mvoies you better have annoying but likeable. And, as I said, it got to me that most of characters in that movie were annoying. Specially the kids, but that happens in almost every Spielberg movie (the annoying kids I mean).
- Well said.
- Agreed.
- Yeah besides in ET, kids are usually pretty annoying in Spielberg's films.
For the most part, I hate indie hipster garbage. Mainly because of Juno. I love Up In The Air and Thank You For Smoking but Juno is just terrible. Michael Cera and Ellen Page are the indie hipster movement in actors and I hate them. I hate how I can't shake how pretentious Ellen Page comes off from that role, implying every girl with any decent sense of "good music" is like that. I mean, I like the story behind Juno but why it had to be an indie hipster couple is beyond me. Saying that, I know I'll get flak for 500 Days of Summer because they're both indie hipsters. But 500 Days of Summer is completely different from Juno, far better casting, acting, story, etc etc. I'd rather watch Zooey Deschanel and Joesph Gordon-Levitt together than Ellen Page and Michael Cera anyday.
Just my two cents.
I think Diablo Cody should also be held greatly responsible for that annoying and already very dated "hipster" dialogue and tone. Case in point, "Jennifer's body" which is so bad it makes Juno look like Annie Hall.
VenomVsSpidey
12-30-2009, 01:44 PM
the original Street Fighter is the best video game movie to date, and while not great, still keeps true to the spirit of the video game, and I think it is a bit underrated and a pretty good movie at that. I'd give it...6.7/10
Tron Bonne
12-30-2009, 02:46 PM
Wow, I didn't even know (500) Days of Summer is hipster indie stuff. I'm so out of the loop :(
Anyway, I think Silent Hill is a great film. Especially as a fan of the game series
Sloth7d
12-30-2009, 02:50 PM
Resident Evil, only the first one, is a good movie. There I said it. :o
Sherlock Holmes was both boring and utterly predictable.
VenomVsSpidey
12-30-2009, 04:51 PM
while nowhere near as good as JP1, the lost world & JP3 are very good sequels to the first. however, as something based off the book, TLW was a travesty.
Sawyer
12-30-2009, 05:07 PM
Yeah i rather enjoyed JP3.
SuperFerret
12-30-2009, 05:16 PM
I did too, but the Spinosaurus is just... no... :(
VenomVsSpidey
12-30-2009, 05:22 PM
I did too, but the Spinosaurus is just... no... :(
yeah, what you said. T-rex >>> Spino.
SuperFerret
12-30-2009, 05:26 PM
I don't know why they decided to use it. It's like "hey, let's replace the biggest draw of the last two movies with a dinosaur that's basically the product of assumptions and a handful of bones that were destroyed in World War II!"
VenomVsSpidey
12-30-2009, 05:30 PM
I don't know why they decided to use it. It's like "hey, let's replace the biggest draw of the last two movies with a dinosaur that's basically the product of assumptions and a handful of bones that were destroyed in World War II!"
Agreed. I mean spino looked cool, but in the end...it was a bad decision by the filmmakers to kill the rex. that's why in operation genesis I put the rexes in with the spinos' and let them duke it out :up:
The Apatow Crew
12-30-2009, 09:36 PM
Paranormal Activity most overrated film of the year and prolly in the longest time!
gwynplaine
12-30-2009, 09:46 PM
_ Sam Worthington is a pretty good actor.
_ James Cameron is a pretty good writer.
_ I didn't really like Sherlock Holmes that much. Except for RDJ who was a great Holmes. I hope he gets better material and a better foe with Moriarty next time (and that Watson gets more to do as well). And I'd rather have someone else than Richie take over.
_ Ridley Scott's last good movie was Gladiator.
_ Scorcese's last good movie was The Aviator.
VenomVsSpidey
12-30-2009, 09:49 PM
Paranormal Activity most overrated film of the year and prolly in the longest time!
I was so hyped for that movie...then It ripped my nuts off with how bad it was
The Apatow Crew
12-30-2009, 09:52 PM
I was so hyped for that movie...then It ripped my nuts off with how bad it wasI heard how everyone was saying it was so damn scary, that they couldn't sleep and when I saw it. I was like this is what people like?! I should have called the cops, cause it felt like my eyes were raped by that movie after viewing it.
Hobgoblin
12-30-2009, 09:55 PM
Alien 3 isnt a bad movie. It just gets a lot of hate because its so unconventional.
The Navigator
12-30-2009, 10:00 PM
^It suffers from being unfinished and interfered with. But its ideas and most of its executions are pretty daring and skillful.
VenomVsSpidey
12-30-2009, 10:06 PM
I heard how everyone was saying it was so damn scary, that they couldn't sleep and when I saw it. I was like this is what people like?! I should have called the cops, cause it felt like my eyes were raped by that movie after viewing it.
agreed. I have never walked out of a movie so disappointed.
Sam Fisher
12-30-2009, 10:07 PM
Jim Carrey is annoying.
Anchorman sucks.
The Apatow Crew
12-30-2009, 10:10 PM
agreed. I have never walked out of a movie so disappointed.I just felt like asking the people for my money back or a free movie ticket. I should just go make a movie like this also and get my money!
Tron Bonne
12-30-2009, 10:11 PM
Hey, that's how I felt the first time I watched Blair Witch Project!
VenomVsSpidey
12-30-2009, 10:13 PM
I just felt like asking the people for my money back or a free movie ticket. I should just go make a movie like this also and get my money!
....Can I help? :awesome:
Hey, that's how I felt the first time I watched Blair Witch Project!
:hehe:
The Apatow Crew
12-30-2009, 10:15 PM
I'll watch Blair Witch over PA any day.
The Apatow Crew
12-30-2009, 10:16 PM
....Can I help? :awesome:
:hehe:I mean I have a little portable camera and a script.
VenomVsSpidey
12-30-2009, 10:19 PM
I mean I have a little portable camera and a script.
:hehe:
I'll be teh demon :wow::wow:
The Apatow Crew
12-30-2009, 10:25 PM
:hehe:
I'll be teh demon :wow::wow:No Demon BS here. Just having it take place in a empty town and stalked one by one.
The Chairman
12-30-2009, 10:28 PM
Aside from the horribly over the top final scene and the Vincent / Mary incest subplot (and Sophia Coppola's subsequent bad acting), The Godfather Pt. III really isn't that bad.
gwynplaine
12-30-2009, 10:52 PM
I mean I have a little portable camera and a script.
Not a fan of PA, by any means (I thought it was kind of boring, just like Blair Witch before it), but this director shot a little film in his house with his little portable camera and created something of a phenomenon.
So yeah, go ahead and do it. People will probably criticize your work on the internet, but you won't really care cause you'll be laughing all the way to the bank.:woot::cwink:
The Apatow Crew
12-30-2009, 11:00 PM
Like i said, I'm sure he did a good job, but giving him too much credit. I'm sure Spielberg had a big part in it and what to take out and to add the new ending.
Addendum
12-30-2009, 11:15 PM
Aside from the horribly over the top final scene and the Vincent / Mary incest subplot (and Sophia Coppola's subsequent bad acting), The Godfather Pt. III really isn't that bad.
I never really thought the ending was that "over the top". As for the "kissing cousins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage)", it's not really incest. It just has a stigma in our country
VenomVsSpidey
12-31-2009, 12:07 AM
No Demon BS here. Just having it take place in a empty town and stalked one by one.
:up:
The Apatow Crew
12-31-2009, 12:08 AM
:up:All I do is need some people help me film it.:woot:
returntovoid
12-31-2009, 04:47 AM
_ Predator and Aliens are dated. Alien and The Thing, on the other hand, are timeless classics.
Predator and Aliens are pretty much as dated as Alien and The Thing. :dry:
I find it to be very contradicting that you dislike Predator and Aliens but yet you like Alien and The Thing. :whatever:
But each to his own. :cool:
Paranormal Activity most overrated film of the year and prolly in the longest time!
I agree.
I didn't find anything scary about it, it just felt like a lame ass reality TV show and it made me drowsy out of boredom. :mad::down:lmao:
Aside from the horribly over the top final scene and the Vincent / Mary incest subplot (and Sophia Coppola's subsequent bad acting), The Godfather Pt. III really isn't that bad.
That scene would have worked so much better if Pacino wasn't doing that hammy screaming. I love Pacino, but come on...
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