State your unpopular film related opinion

[Ipodman]

Well, Zombieland is sort of a zombie-comedy ? Not ur usual Zombie-horror

[VenomVsSpidey]

Street Fighter (94) isnt a bad movie... its just underappreciated

...:awesome:

I was a kid when that movie came out. I remember my cousin who is about my age looking forward to that movie because he had read the book.

I love it, both the book and movie :awesome:

[OctaviusINC]

-Speaking of zombies, I don't understand why zombies are so popular and why the zombie genre keeps getting more films. I like a few zombie movies, but if you've seen a handful of the "good" ones, you've probably seen all the genre has to offer.

[Dark Victory]

-I've never sat through a whole zombie movie. mostly because i think they're all pointless and the same. altho i would like to see zombieland and shawn of the dead eventually.


If you've watched Romero's Day, Dawn and Night of the Living Dead, then --:doh:.

[Hobgoblin]

I liked Zombieland as a horror/comedy but the best real zombie movies are all from the 70's. Gritty, graphic and in no way politically correct. :woot:

[SuperFerret]

Night is the only Romero film that I like, the others (Dawn of the Dead especially) are pretty blah, although this could be due to the "Shakespeare Effect" (i.e. storylines that seem very cliche nowadays because they started said cliche).

[Aesop Rocks]

Unpopular film opinion:

I hate the success of Avatar.

Reason? It makes Sam Worthington look like a brilliant and amazingly talented actor.

Which he's not...At all.

[anrrd_2]

^i don't think i've heard one person attribute Avatar's success to Worthington. Or any of the actors for that matter. Avatars success is in the hands of Cameron and his design team, no one else.

I see worthington as a sort of Christian Bale" type. He plays fun characters who are very strong willed but offer vary little range of emotions. Sam, like bale, doesn't change much from role to role so the material surrounding them has to be that much better.

[Drizzle]

Here's my unpopular film-related opinion.

I liked "The Hurt Locker". A lot. It's probably in my top ten for 2009. I thought that Jeremy Renner was great in it. However, I don't think it's as good as everyone is making it out to be. I think that while it's probably the best Iraq war movie out there, I walked away from it seeing it as nothing more than the standard "soldier can't function in any situation outside of combat" war story. People are making it out to be the best war movie of all time. The best modern war movie? Maybe, if we take "Black Hawk Down" out of the equation. The best war movie of all time? Lord, no. It's not even what I consider the best war movie that came out this year. For me, that distinction would go to "Inglourious Basterds" (even though the events that happened in it were very far-fetched, it's still a war movie). Still, I do think that Kathryn Bigelow deserves the Best Director Oscar for it. Do I think it should win Best Picture? It deserves to be nominated, but I feel that "Avatar" and "Inglourious Basterds" are more deserving.

[anrrd_2]

Mrs. Bigelow definitely has earned best director...beven james Cameron was shocked when he won the golden globe for best director, saying "I thought Catheryn was going to win, and she richly deserves it."

i agree though that its not the best picture of the year.

[Figs]

^i don't think i've heard one person attribute Avatar's success to Worthington. Or any of the actors for that matter. Avatars success is in the hands of Cameron and his design team, no one else.

I see worthington as a sort of Christian Bale" type. He plays fun characters who are very strong willed but offer vary little range of emotions. Sam, like bale, doesn't change much from role to role so the material surrounding them has to be that much better.

Not true at all and I recommend you see more of Bale's films.

[VenomVsSpidey]

Obviously hasn't seen the machinist :o

[anrrd_2]

Worthington is more guilty of this than Bale.. and no, i haven't seen the machinist. but bale has played numerous roles that are pretty much the same so far as his acting style goes. Batman, Terminator, Rescue Dawn, 3:10 to yuma... all pretty much played the same. Bale is talented and does have the ability to offer dramatic range, but in these roles he doesn't. Worthington is far less talented than Bale is.

[Hobgoblin]

^i don't think i've heard one person attribute Avatar's success to Worthington. Or any of the actors for that matter. Avatars success is in the hands of Cameron and his design team, no one else.

I see worthington as a sort of Christian Bale" type. He plays fun characters who are very strong willed but offer vary little range of emotions. Sam, like bale, doesn't change much from role to role so the material surrounding them has to be that much better.

The only reason that Avatar is breaking records is because of the SFX. Its otherwise an entirely average film.

[The Joker]

The only reason that Avatar is breaking records is because of the SFX. Its otherwise an entirely average film.

I agree. It bored me.

[Hobgoblin]

I agree. It bored me.

I have to say, I had a very strange reaction to the film. Normally, I have a "Live and let live" philosophy and I'm very much an environmentalist. So the movie should have been right up my alley. Instead I felt like it was cramming the message down my throat. The magic tree bothered me, as did the odd ability of the creatures to communicate to each other via their hair. What hippy wrote this movie?

[Max J Power]

Here's my unpopular film-related opinion.

I liked "The Hurt Locker". A lot. It's probably in my top ten for 2009. I thought that Jeremy Renner was great in it. However, I don't think it's as good as everyone is making it out to be. I think that while it's probably the best Iraq war movie out there, I walked away from it seeing it as nothing more than the standard "soldier can't function in any situation outside of combat" war story. People are making it out to be the best war movie of all time. The best modern war movie? Maybe, if we take "Black Hawk Down" out of the equation. The best war movie of all time? Lord, no. It's not even what I consider the best war movie that came out this year. For me, that distinction would go to "Inglourious Basterds" (even though the events that happened in it were very far-fetched, it's still a war movie). Still, I do think that Kathryn Bigelow deserves the Best Director Oscar for it. Do I think it should win Best Picture? It deserves to be nominated, but I feel that "Avatar" and "Inglourious Basterds" are more deserving.
I don't Cameron to win (though he deserves a nomination) because Avatar wasn't the best film from this year and it really doesn't mean anything for him to win twice. Tarantino winning would give him pretty much the only career achievement he doesn't have (like Scorsese in 2006), and Bigelow would be one of the only women to ever win. Either one would be a much more meaningful win than another James Cameron ego-stroke/attempt to make a point that the Oscars will award super-popular box office hits.

[Parker Wayne]

- I'm more interested to see Worthington's Dracula than Depp's Barnabas:o.
- That said I'm experiencing some serious "Vampire Fatigue".
- I don't care if they were taken with an Iphone or whatever, those set pictures from Predators look pretty bad. And Brody as an action hero? Haven't they learned anything from King Kong?
- I liked Troy, mostly for Bana, and thought that Pitt was also good in it.
- The Duellists is better than Gladiator, which is still great though. And Alien is Scott's best film by far.
- The Insider is Mann's only great film.
- I like I Am Legend. Will Smith is really good in it.
- Jeremy Renner better get the Oscar.

I actually like I am Legend also, though I wish they kept the original ending. It would've been more powerful.

[SuperFerret]

I have to say, I had a very strange reaction to the film. Normally, I have a "Live and let live" philosophy and I'm very much an environmentalist. So the movie should have been right up my alley. Instead I felt like it was cramming the message down my throat. The magic tree bothered me, as did the odd ability of the creatures to communicate to each other via their hair. What hippy wrote this movie?

So I'm not the only one who thinks that the Navi are hypocrites?

[gwynplaine]

I actually like I am Legend also, though I wish they kept the original ending. It would've been more powerful.
Agreed.

[Dark Victory]

Night is the only Romero film that I like, the others (Dawn of the Dead especially) are pretty blah, although this could be due to the "Shakespeare Effect" (i.e. storylines that seem very cliche nowadays because they started said cliche).

Well, someone missed Dawn's take on American materialism and consumerism.

Unpopular film opinion:

I hate the success of Avatar.

Reason? It makes Sam Worthington look like a brilliant and amazingly talented actor.

Which he's not...At all.

Wait, what?:huh:

If anything, the main drives behind Avatar's success are its strong WOM, incredible special effects and James Cameron's return to the medium.

If you count success, you might as well include Shia Labeouf's performance in TF2 as incredibly strong.

[Dark Victory]

^i don't think i've heard one person attribute Avatar's success to Worthington. Or any of the actors for that matter. Avatars success is in the hands of Cameron and his design team, no one else.

I see worthington as a sort of Christian Bale" type. He plays fun characters who are very strong willed but offer vary little range of emotions. Sam, like bale, doesn't change much from role to role so the material surrounding them has to be that much better.


:doh::dry::doh:

This is ******** on every level.

American Psycho, Rescue Dawn, The Machinist? Ring a bell?

[SuperFerret]

Well, someone missed Dawn's take on American materialism and consumerism.

I did not, but (likely due to Dawn) the whole horde of zombies thing is very bland and has been done to death. The message is kind of dumb too.

[Heretic]

This is probably not popular...

Avatar is not the most visually thrilling movie I saw in 2009. It's probably top 5, but I was far less impressed by the blurry, cartoonish CGI than most people seem to be.

[Heretic]

This is probably not popular...

Avatar is not the most visually thrilling movie I saw in 2009. It's probably top 5, but I was far less impressed by the blurry, cartoonish CGI than most people seem to be.

[Tron Bonne]

Not sure how unpopular this is to be honest, but I'll go ahead and throw it out.

-The 'Renaissance' era of Disney (late 80s-90s) is better than the Golden Age era.

-In that vein, I like almost every Disney flick from the former era better than most of Pixar's library. Not to say I dislike Pixar or anything.

-Again, not sure how unpopular this one is, but I actually like the first Toy Story better than the second. Ironically, my favorite character of the series was introduced in the second.

[SuperFerret]

This is probably not popular...

Avatar is not the most visually thrilling movie I saw in 2009. It's probably top 5, but I was far less impressed by the blurry, cartoonish CGI than most people seem to be.

I agree, it looks good, but not moreso than anything else, based on everything that I've seen in the trailers. I saw the movie itself via bootleg, so I don't usually talk about it.

[gwynplaine]

I agree, it looks good, but not moreso than anything else, based on everything that I've seen in the trailers. I saw the movie itself via bootleg, so I don't usually talk about it.
:hehe::o. (Yeah, you're right you can't really talk about it.)

[Sloth7d]

-HellBoy II was visually the best movie I've ever seen. That movie was just beautiful, and what helped it best was a good balance of CGI with actualy props and make-up.

[Ipodman]

My visually most stunning would be Transformers Revenge of the Fallen

Of all time

[Cuyan]

yikes

[anrrd_2]

^ TF:ROTF was visually amazing... but people get so bogged down in Bay's lack of story/character development that they fail to recognize any of its redeeming qualities.

[Ipodman]

^ TF:ROTF was visually amazing... but people get so bogged down in Bay's lack of story/character development that they fail to recognize any of its redeeming qualities.

I actually feel TF:ROTF had a very good story and character dev.....
:yay:

its just that Bay decides to develope the wrong characters....

[Jumpin' Jack]

I enjoyed Batman & Robin only for Arnie's Ice puns

[Ipodman]

I enjoyed Batman & Robin only for Arnie's Ice puns

Gotta watch it again for just that...

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea no matter how terrible B&R was/is, I can't help by be entertained by the sheer ridiculousness of Ahnuld in that movie :awesome:

[VenomVsSpidey]

I enjoyed Batman & Robin only for Arnie's Ice puns


which is why it's in my top 20 (19th) favorite superhero movies - how hilarious that it is :o

[Ipodman]

The thought the climax of B&R was actually quite good... better than the lame gameshow thing in Batman Forever

[Sloth7d]

The only reason B&R is even hated is because noone wants to go back to the Adam West era, but outside of that it was a pretty entertaining kids film.

[Bad Superman]

The Gamer is one of the best action films of 2009. I just wished they would've done it in 3-D. . . . .
















Yes, Im kidding.



:cmad:

[SuperFerret]

Yea no matter how terrible B&R was/is, I can't help by be entertained by the sheer ridiculousness of Ahnuld in that movie :awesome:

The Governator is always entertaining. I've never seen him give an unentertaining performance.

The only reason B&R is even hated is because noone wants to go back to the Adam West era, but outside of that it was a pretty entertaining kids film.

I think that Adam West is the best live action Batman ever, and I wish that we'd go back to that era, because it sure as hell is a lot more fun than the ultra-serious crap we're getting now.

[Dark Victory]

^ TF:ROTF was visually amazing... but people get so bogged down in Bay's lack of story/character development that they fail to recognize any of its redeeming qualities.


Maybe, if Bay didn't hire cameramen that had parkinson's disease and wasn't a pain sit through from the glaring lens flair and other incredibly annoying techniques.

[Figs]

Maybe, if Bay didn't hire cameramen that had parkinson's disease and wasn't a pain sit through from the glaring lens flair and other incredibly annoying techniques.

:up:


I thought he would have improved the camera during the fights for the sequel but it was just as bad.

Not to mention, having grown up with Transfomers and wanting to see them come alive on the big screen for years, the wow factor of the effects wore off by the sequel too.

[Shemtov]

the F4 movies, Spider-man 3, Superman Returns, and X3 are OK movies. Not good or bad, just OK.
Basterds is overrated.

[gwynplaine]

I think that Adam West is the best live action Batman ever, and I wish that we'd go back to that era, because it sure as hell is a lot more fun than the ultra-serious crap we're getting now.
You don't like Kubrick. You watch bootlegs or talk with your friends during movies. And now this.
Dude, you so own this thread:up:.

[SuperFerret]

What's wrong with watching bootlegs? And I make comments during movies, you make it sound like I have conversations.

[gwynplaine]

If you were trying to make a living writing screenplays like I (painfully:woot:) do, you'd probably understand what I mean. I don't know what your profession is or will be but I'm sure you'll enjoy getting paid for it:cwink:.
And you were the one who made it sound like you were having conversations during movies.
Anyway, it's the unpopular thread so it's all good and I don't come here to quarrel, only to share my passion of Cinema with my fellow Hypers.

[Addendum]

My "passion for cinema" is contained to my living room. Though I do see an occasional film in the theater

[gwynplaine]

Yeah I know, I'm a Film Geek. Thanks for reminding me:woot::cwink:. I like to talk about movies, what can I say:o.

[gwynplaine]

Also thanks for correcting my English, it's not my first language and I appreciate the help.

[Ipodman]

Maybe, if Bay didn't hire cameramen that had parkinson's disease and wasn't a pain sit through from the glaring lens flair and other incredibly annoying techniques.

I particularly dislike the scene in TF:ROTF (if anyone has seen it...) where Sam and Mikeala are about to kiss and the the camera just swirls and swirls around them.

My friend actually told me he likes the director's technique in that scene :dry:

[WolfCypher]

The Hangover was TERRIBLE.

[VenomVsSpidey]

You don't like Kubrick. You watch bootlegs or talk with your friends during movies. And now this.
Dude, you so own this thread:up:.

you don't think depp is a great actor. You think Keanu Reeves is / might be a good one. You're lookin' forward to GR2. Quiet in the front row, please. :woot::awesome::hehe:

[SuperFerret]

I can fight my own battles. Shaddapayouface! :awesome:

[Ipodman]

Half Blood Prince is the only Harry Potter film that i like

[[A]]

how's that unpopular?

[The Apatow Crew]

;18000851']how's that unpopular?Here is one. I don't like any of the harry potter films.

[Addendum]

I can top that: I don't like any of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies

[Cuyan]

I don't like any of the Star Wars movies.

[SuperFerret]

I won't go near anything remotely related to the Harry Potter series. The idea of a standardized magic curriculum offends me on the deepest level. Wizardry is an apprenticeship dammit!

[scatterax]

it just acurd to me that most of the time i agree w/ the majority when it comes to movies. i mean, just look at my sig!

however, i did like kinda like ghostrider, the ff movies and loved DD.

and also, i consider c-3po to be the original trilogy's jarjar binks. despite the fact that i like anthony daniels portrayal.

[[A]]

I think saying Half Blood Prince is the only good Harry Potter film fits better in this thread..

[scatterax]

my opinion on harry potter is that the story didn't get interesting till part 3, and the movies weren't entertaining till 4, but 5 still had that annoying subplot with that annoying teacher. by the way, what's with that school and hiring villains for that same position year after year? oh, and i haven't seen 6 yet.

[Ipodman]

;18000968']I think saying Half Blood Prince is the only good Harry Potter film fits better in this thread..

:yay: Yes thats true...

[VenomVsSpidey]

I can fight my own battles. Shaddapayouface! :awesome:


True, but he makes fun of me for liking XMO:W & SM3. this was my chance:csad:

:hehe:

[Dark Victory]

Where the Wild Things Are is a brilliant adaptation, even better than its source material.

[VenomVsSpidey]

I never saw it :csad:

[Sam Fisher]

I could care less about 3D.
The Adam West Batman is my favorite version of Batman.

[[A]]

I could care less about 3DYou mean you couldn't..?

[CBGB]

I'm surprised how common of a mistake that is.

.I don't care for Christopher Nolan. His films have yet to WOW me.
.Some might say Titanic, Rocky, whatever... but the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly has the greatest score in the history of cinema.
.While I do love Pixar, Disney's early animated films (Snow White, Bambi, Dumbo, etc.) are still the greatest of all time.

[CBGB]

Double post, sorry.

[Zant]

FOX is my favourite movie studio.For some reason its cool and hip to hate Fox on the internet and people jump on that bandwagon

[VenomVsSpidey]

FOX is my favourite movie studio.For some reason its cool and hip to hate Fox on the internet and people jump on that bandwagon

probably because 70% of their movies now are utter crap?

[gwynplaine]

True, but he makes fun of me for liking XMO:W & SM3. this was my chance:csad:

:hehe:
:waa:

you don't think depp is a great actor. You think Keanu Reeves is / might be a good one. You're lookin' forward to GR2. Quiet in the front row, please. :woot::awesome::hehe:
Also, don't forget that I'm not too crazy about the Raimi's SM movies.

FOX is my favourite movie studio.For some reason its cool and hip to hate Fox on the internet and people jump on that bandwagon
Agreed.
Fox is not my favorite studio though, but I think they're pretty much all the same. And I don't like that bandwagon mentality very much either:up:.

[Zant]

probably because 70% of their movies now are utter crap?


See you seem like the stereotypical Fox hater. Fox must have really pissed you off.Let me guess they cancelled your favourite show, or is it because they did not give wolverine yellow spandex in the x men movies?

[[A]]

So you can only *hate* Fox because of that..?

[-Arya-]

The Big Lebowski is funniest movie in existence.

Not sure if that's unpopular or not but it needed to be said.

[VenomVsSpidey]

See you seem like the stereotypical Fox hater. Fox must have really pissed you off.Let me guess they cancelled your favourite show, or is it because they did not give wolverine yellow spandex in the x men movies?

Yeah.....no

I actually LIKE all the X-men movies, thank ya very much, although the last two are far less as good as X1/X2. and I don't watch fox tv, so no. and hell, some of my favorite movies ever are from fox; but they have released utter crap / terribly mediocre movies in the last ten years. X3 & Wolverine fall into the mediocre category. FF 1/2 - sucked. Daredevil (NOT the DC) - teh lame...
Dragonball & Street Fighter?...:dry: Epic/Date/Disaster/Whatever movie? you must like these:o:whatever:

[VenomVsSpidey]

The Big Lebowski is funniest movie in existence.

Not sure if that's unpopular or not but it needed to be said.

not sure about funniest movie in existence, but it IS hilarious. the edited-for-tv is hilarious too. YA SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MEET A STRANGER IN THE ALPS?!?!?!:cmad:

[Bunker]

Where the Wild Things Are is a brilliant adaptation, even better than its source material.

The book is like 3 pages long. Of course the movie is better.

[danoyse]

See you seem like the stereotypical Fox hater. Fox must have really pissed you off.Let me guess they cancelled your favourite show, or is it because they did not give wolverine yellow spandex in the x men movies?

No, he's not...and can we please tone down the obnoxiousness? There was no reason to talk to another poster like that.

[gwynplaine]

The Big Lebowski is funniest movie in existence.

Not sure if that's unpopular or not but it needed to be said.
Just saw "Crazy Heart". As usual, Jeff Bridges is the man (both great at drama and at comedy). There was even a scene in a bowling alley (The Dude back in his natural habitat, that was pretty cool).
Can't wait for his reunion with the Coen Brothers in "True Grit". (From The Duke to The Dude:cwink:).
Also Colin Farrell was great in it and proved once again that he is indeed a very good actor.
(On a SHH side note, it was funny to see Iron Monger and Bullseye as country singers:woot:).

[Vengeance]

Saw I-III aren't torture porn and are actually some great well written thrillers

[david icke]

The Postman is a good movie.

[danoyse]

Just saw "Crazy Heart". As usual, Jeff Bridges is the man (both great at drama and at comedy). There was even a scene in a bowling alley (The Dude back in his natural habitat, that was pretty cool).
Can't wait for his reunion with the Coen Brothers in "True Grit". (From The Duke to The Dude:cwink:).
Also Colin Farrell was great in it and proved once again that he is indeed a very good actor.
(On a SHH side note, it was funny to see Iron Monger and Bullseye as country singers:woot:).

Nice. Hoping to see this one soon. I've heard nothing but good things about it.

[Figs]

The Postman is a good movie.

Thank you!

Either people hate it because they already hate Costner or they tend to hate it because it's boring or "lame".

[Dark Victory]

The book is like 3 pages long. Of course the movie is better.


The book's a universally loved classic, regardless of its length. A fair amount of people found the film to be too dark and vague, while I didn't.

[[A]]

The Postman is a good movie.

Thank you!

Either people hate it because they already hate Costner or they tend to hate it because it's boring or "lame"...and I thought you were talking about the italian movie -- :doh: at myself

[gwynplaine]

Nice. Hoping to see this one soon. I've heard nothing but good things about it.
A very moving film. With a similar story than "The Wrestler" but with an old, beaten down country singer instead. And Bridges is (once again) really great.

[Aesop Rocks]

unpopular film opinion:

Surrogates is a good sci-fi film and get's too much crap.

Trust me, I was one of the few who gave it nothing but crap.

Then I watched it and I really enjoyed it.

[david icke]

Thank you!

Either people hate it because they already hate Costner or they tend to hate it because it's boring or "lame".

came across this article today from the writer of the original novel in defence of the movie, pretty good:

http://davidbrin.com/postmanmovie.htm


Folk really had it out for this movie, and Costner I think, it won all 5 of it's Razzie awards(a first), and only made 18mil domestcally of it's 80mil budget.

I read somewhere that Costner said he wished he'd presented it more as a fairy tale, so folk would not go in expecting a 'realistic' p-a movie. But, I think folk would still have stomped all over it, lol. Or should that be stamped.

[Schlosser85]

Avatar's story is perfectly fine, and it would not be as popular as it is if it was just a special effects extravaganza and didn't get you to care about the characters.

I've never been able to get into Blade Runner. I think it's one of those movies I can sit back and acknowledge as an "important film", but don't really actually enjoy watching. It's an extraordinarily dreary movie, at least to me.

[SuperFerret]

Avatar's story is perfectly fine, and it would not be as popular as it is if it was just a special effects extravaganza and didn't get you to care about the characters.

I think you've said that before and I agree 85%. I really didn't like most of the characters and at the end I didn't have a side to root for.

[Dark Victory]

Wall Street in an overrated, redundant film.

[Figs]

came across this article today from the writer of the original novel in defence of the movie, pretty good:

http://davidbrin.com/postmanmovie.htm


Folk really had it out for this movie, and Costner I think, it won all 5 of it's Razzie awards(a first), and only made 18mil domestcally of it's 80mil budget.

I read somewhere that Costner said he wished he'd presented it more as a fairy tale, so folk would not go in expecting a 'realistic' p-a movie. But, I think folk would still have stomped all over it, lol. Or should that be stamped.

Thanks for that article from the author. I think he's dead on with what he said, especially about what probably alienated the Left and Right wingers. I really like that he talks about how it's become the cool thing to think being proud of your country is sappy and :whatever: worthy, which is sadly how a lot of people think now days.

[danoyse]

A very moving film. With a similar story than "The Wrestler" but with an old, beaten down country singer instead. And Bridges is (once again) really great.

I does seem like this years The Wrestler. And I loved that movie.

Here's my latest unpopular opinion. I finally saw Inglorious Basterds last night. Really? That is winning awards? :dry:

It was OK, but I didn't think it was all that much.

[The Apatow Crew]

Here's my latest unpopular opinion. I finally saw Inglorious Basterds last night. Really? That is winning awards? :dry:

It was OK, but I didn't think it was all that much.It's just cause its from Quentin Tarentino that's why.

[Bunker]

People not liking Basterds is really baffling to me.

[Cuyan]

Opinions are confusing.

[Schlosser85]

^ I don't think Inglourious Basterds is all that either. Avatar is vastly better, and I prefer Tarantino's Kill Bill films.

The only exceptional thing about IB is Christoph Waltz as Landa.

[Dark Victory]

People not liking Basterds is really baffling to me.
:highfive: :up: :woot:


It's just cause its from Quentin Tarentino that's why.

:doh::barf:

[Ace of Knaves]

With the Basterds hate the thread should be called "The Stupid film related opinions".

Seriously, Avatar better than Basterds? :funny: :hehe: :funny: :hehe: :funny:

[[A]]

Avatar will always be in front of Basterds..............because it starts with an a

[Dark Victory]

With the Basterds hate the thread should be called "The Stupid film related opinions".

Seriously, Avatar better than Basterds? :funny: :hehe: :funny: :hehe: :funny:


Hey, I had one hell of a time when I saw Avatar and regard it as my favorite of the year, but the best? Hell no.:cwink:

[Ace of Knaves]

Well yea there is a difference between favourite and best. My favourite film of the year is probably Bad LT. But Basterds and Hurt Locker are better films.

[danoyse]

With the Basterds hate the thread should be called "The Stupid film related opinions".


So now not liking IG makes one stupid? Please. :whatever:

I thought the opening and the bar scene were great. The rest was just a retread of everything Tarantino has done in his other films, and the novelty of it has just worn off for me by now. And Eli Roth just annoys the crap out of me.

It was ok, but totally overrated. Hurt Locker and Up in the Air were much better.

[Figs]

So now not liking IG makes one stupid? Please. :whatever:

I thought the opening and the bar scene were great. The rest was just a retread of everything Tarantino has done in his other films, and the novelty of it has just worn off for me by now. And Eli Roth just annoys the crap out of me.

It was ok, but totally overrated. Hurt Locker and Up in the Air were much better.

While I love Inglourious Basterds, the Hurt Locker knocked it down to my #2 spot for favorite films of the year.

I definitely will catch Up in the Air on Blu-Ray but after hearing sooo many praising comments and reviews I feel like I'll enjoy it but still find it to be overrated.

[Ace of Knaves]

So now not liking IG makes one stupid? Please. :whatever:

I thought the opening and the bar scene were great. The rest was just a retread of everything Tarantino has done in his other films, and the novelty of it has just worn off for me by now. And Eli Roth just annoys the crap out of me.

It was ok, but totally overrated. Hurt Locker and Up in the Air were much better.

No it doesn't make you stupid... it makes you a philistine!

But i was joking anyway :D

[Sloth7d]

^ I don't think Inglourious Basterds is all that either. Avatar is vastly better, and I prefer Tarantino's Kill Bill films.

The only exceptional thing about IB is Christoph Waltz as Landa.

I agree with all, except I didn't really care for Landa either. Don't get me wrong, his character was great; like a cat, he whimsically toys with his prey before snuffing it. However, he had nothing to work with. By means of contention he had no opponent to bring out the best in him making him a wasted character. The Basterds were brainless killing machines, who I actually didn't like. Despite them being patriots, their disgusting barbarism turned me off. Even worse what happened to Landa at the end; all I could think was, "Really? They got the last laugh against Landa? These idiots got one in over him? Bullcrap!" I still like IG, but it wasn't all that at all and was pretty annoying, one-dimensional, and stupid when it focused on the actual Basterds.

[Ace of Knaves]

Their disgusting barbarism turned you off? lol. They were hunting and torturing Nazi's, who gives a ****? **** Nazi's is what I say. **** em in the earhole.

[VenomVsSpidey]

This X A million....Ace..

[Dark Victory]

Taken is an overrated, lame film that's neither exciting or thrilling.

[Max J Power]

I'm not trying to make people like the movie more by saying this, but I really don't think you were supposed to like the Basterds all that much. I viewed the whole movie as examining the way movies view war and morality, and I thought the Basterds' barbarism was a great way of pointing out how unrealistic and morally questionable a lot of old war movies were.

[Ace of Knaves]

Well there were actually Jewish Nazi hunters in the days after the war. So the Basterds are inspired by real events.

[Sloth7d]

Their disgusting barbarism turned you off? lol. They were hunting and torturing Nazi's, who gives a ****? **** Nazi's is what I say. **** em in the earhole.

I was always an admirer of the hero who didn't sink to the level of the villain because the villain pissed him off. Killing them is one thing, as there is no other choice. Scalping and branding them for kicks and giggles shows that they're just as messed in the head as the Nazis.

[Ace of Knaves]

Who says the Basterds were supposed to be heroes though? Who says who are even supposed to like them?

[Sloth7d]

Then mission accomplished, but if the point was for us to love to hate them then it just didn't happen for me. I didn't like to hate them. I just hated them, and I was disappointed this was all Hans Landa had to work with as an adversary. As much of a monster as he was, he was on too a different level of contention to be double crossed by these guys.

[Tron Bonne]

EDIT: Nevermind

[CBGB]

I think Up in the Air is a bit overrated. There's really not that much to it. Jason Reitman is getting a ton of praise for it, but in reality, anyone could direct it.

[Dark Victory]

F.W. Murnau's Sunrise is better than his most popular entry, Nosferatu.

[danoyse]

I think Up in the Air is a bit overrated. There's really not that much to it. Jason Reitman is getting a ton of praise for it, but in reality, anyone could direct it.

I actually thought that movie was as good as the reviews it's getting. I was a layoff victim 9 years ago, parts of that movie were actually hard to watch, especially since they mostly didn't use actors in the layoff scenes and let them improvise to their responses to the camera.

[VenomVsSpidey]

Batman Returns >> TDK >> Batman Begins >> B89 >> Batman Forever.

[Jumpin' Jack]

Spaceship Special Effects: 2001: Space Odyssey > Star Wars

[[A]]

..I don't think that's very unpopular. Or is it..? I mean, 2001 looks AMAZING for a movie done in 1968.. and it looks a million times better than the sequel, which was made 16 later!

[Dark Victory]

;18021680']..I don't think that's very unpopular. Or is it..? I mean, 2001 looks AMAZING for a movie done in 1968.. and it looks a million times better than the sequel, which was made 16 later!

My favorite film of all time. The sequel was obviously never going to live up to the first's technical and narrative brilliance, but goddamn...it's like Gus Van Sant's Psycho.:csad:

[[A]]

The space fx in 2010 are very distracting.. VERY distracting..

[El Payaso]

Spaceship Special Effects: 2001: Space Odyssey > Star Wars

:up:

[Hobgoblin]

The only exceptional thing about IB is Christoph Waltz as Landa.

QFT. I was fascinated by this character but the rest of the movie was just too...Tarantino for me. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think WW2 films deserve to be more than popcorn entertainment.

[Schlosser85]

Their disgusting barbarism turned you off? lol. They were hunting and torturing Nazi's, who gives a ****? **** Nazi's is what I say. **** em in the earhole.

Being a German soldier doesn't equal being a Nazi.

[danoyse]

QFT. I was fascinated by this character but the rest of the movie was just too...Tarantino for me. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think WW2 films deserve to be more than popcorn entertainment.

^This. :up:

[Figs]

Um....just about every single WWII film(which there are countless)have all been super serious.

He does something a bit different and people think it's not right?

[SuperFerret]

I'd love a good WWII slapstick comedy.

[Cuyan]

http://backstage.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c9cc153ef0115703dfca7970b-800wi

:awesome:

[SuperFerret]

To be honest, the ONLY WWII movie that's not Captain America that I'd be interested in seeing is an adaption of Mein Kampf. I find Adolf Hitler to be a fascinating individual.

[Cuyan]

A gay, vegetarian, painter does kind of sound interesting.

[SuperFerret]

It's more the fact that he became pretty much the first real life comic book supervillain.

[Cuyan]

And single-handedly ruined the mini-mustache for everyone.

[SuperFerret]

It was never a good look anyway.

[Cuyan]

So hey I think The Goonies sucks.

[Hobgoblin]

While we are on the topic of war films, I want to see more movies about the people behind the war, less about the plight of the soldiers. No disrespect to the guys with their boots on the ground but many war flicks become the same thing: moralizing about how war is awful and pointless. It is, we get it. But some of the leaders during war time are fascinating.

Downfall was a great movie about an awful person. Patton took a look at both sides of the general and has been embraced by both pro and anti war groups. These are the kid of war movies I want to see.

Another point: I want more WW1 movies. I cant stand that a World War has been largely ignored by Hollywood for decades.
Um....just about every single WWII film(which there are countless)have all been super serious.

He does something a bit different and people think it's not right?
Yes.

[SuperFerret]

I'd like to see a movie that shows war as the necessary process that it is, but that'd require a very large scope that would be impossible to convey in a movie.

[[A]]

Downfall was a great movie about an awful personAhh Der Untergang, fantastic movie. The only bad thing about it is the crappy digital look -- it would've looked amazing on film..

I'd like to see a movie that shows war as the necessary process that it is, but that'd require a very large scope that would be impossible to convey in a movie...you mean the military business?

[SuperFerret]

;18023511']..you mean the military business?

I don't follow. I'm talking about how war is an essential survival process as it helps control the typically unchecked human population growth.

[Hobgoblin]

I don't follow. I'm talking about how war is an essential survival process as it helps control the typically unchecked human population growth.

Thats an interesting point but imagine the public outcry. People hate war because it kills so many people and this film would be saying the opposite, that the killing is good.

[Cuyan]

I don't follow. I'm talking about how war is an essential survival process as it helps control the typically unchecked human population growth.
Seems a little high-concept for modern Hollywood.

[Cuyan]

Thats an interesting point but imagine the public outcry. People hate war because it kills so many people and this film would be saying the opposite, that the killing is good.
Not "good", but necessary.

[SuperFerret]

That's because people will naturally relate to other people and their suffering, as opposed to looking at the bigger picture. The only way I see it being feasible from a film standpoint is to focus on the topic of population control and look at some human behavioural "adaptions" that help with that. As a documentary.

[Hobgoblin]

Seems a little high-concept for modern Hollywood.
I hate modern Hollywood. I really do. Why cant they make intelligent, concepty films that dont talk down to the audience? Sadly, I have to agree that people wouldnt go to see such movies.

I checked on my favorite WW1 flick, Flyboys. I can see why Hollywood hasnt made more films about the Great War. It cost $60 million and made $17 million. Well, there is an unpopular opinion right there. I liked Flyboys. :o

[Cuyan]

Why cant they make intelligent, concepty films that dont talk down to the audience?
Because Transformers made so much money that it warranted a sequel. That's the world we live in today.

[Hobgoblin]

Also, I liked Alien vs Predator: Requiem more than the first AvP.

[SuperFerret]

AvP:R was an awful Predator movie, but a decent Alien movie.

[Hobgoblin]

It was by no means a great movie but I like that it had more balls than the first AvP. Let us see the chestbursting. Use bad words. Dont be afraid to kill women and children.

[El Payaso]

And single-handedly ruined the mini-mustache for everyone.
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m387/mrbungle_08/basura/jjmoustache.jpg

[Cuyan]

Yup, still ruined.

[Ace of Knaves]

AvP:R was an awful Predator movie, but a decent Alien movie.

I don't see how, to be honest.

The Predator was made into some uber bad ass. Whilst the Aliens were made into baby killing, egg barfing cannon fodder. (I mean barfing eggs? What, they don't need a Queen at all now? C'mon...)

The only scene in that film that was good for the Aliens was when they ambushed and obliterated the National Guard.

But overall I think the film took a big, steaming dump on the Aliens and their mythos.

[SuperFerret]

The Predator was probably the least honorable and responsible one of his species to ever be put onto film. They don't kill people when there's no sport in it, and it was pretty clear that he had a specific job to do when on Earth, one that he almost immediately started slacking off on. The Aliens were as they always were: violent, relentless, indiscriminate killing machines.

[danoyse]

Um....just about every single WWII film(which there are countless)have all been super serious.

He does something a bit different and people think it's not right?

I wasn't offended by it, I just thought it was stupid. Everything Tarantino does has to be some homage to a bad 70s movie/tv show. And those weren't very good in the first place. It's funny sometimes but I just didn't think it worked here.

[Hobgoblin]

I don't see how, to be honest.

The Predator was made into some uber bad ass. Whilst the Aliens were made into baby killing, egg barfing cannon fodder. (I mean barfing eggs? What, they don't need a Queen at all now? C'mon...)

The only scene in that film that was good for the Aliens was when they ambushed and obliterated the National Guard.

But overall I think the film took a big, steaming dump on the Aliens and their mythos.

That was a Queen. Look at its head from a side angle, it has an elongated "crown." It kept pushing the other aliens around, so it was dominant, some how. I think the "egg barfing" is just a part of a young Queen's life cycle. It hasnt developed the ovipositor and is on its own. So it vomits up multiple embryos into hosts to become its protectors while it grows and matures to grow into the Queen that we know. Thats my theory.

Of course, the directors said it was a reproductive trait inherited from the Predators, which I dont care for. And you were surprised that they killed babys?

[Ace of Knaves]

It wasn't a Queen. It was a PredAlien.

And the baby killing thing was just unnecessary and in bad taste.

[Hobgoblin]

It wasn't a Queen. It was a PredAlien.

And the baby killing thing was just unnecessary and in bad taste.

It was a Queen that came from a Predator. And you expect horror movies to be in good taste? I want them to horrify us. You arent supposed to leave the theater with a warm, fuzzy feeling.

[Vengeance]

Hurt Locker is so so, solid but not amazing

[SuperFerret]

The baby-killing thing was the only horrifying part in AVP:R, everything else was overblown into absurdity. Not the good type of absurdity either.

[The Navigator]

Speaking of Aliens, with the exception of the scenes with Ripley's daughter and the second sentry gun part (and maybe that Dwayne/Ellen thing), the theatrical release is better than the special edition.

And, although the director's cut of Good, Bad and the Ugly solves a lot of pacing problems, the voice over work is unfortunately noticeable and completely takes you out of the movie.

[Addendum]

I mentioned this in "The Last Airbender" thread, but I think it works over here better.

If a story is told well in one medium (comic book, novel, video game, tv series: animated or with real people, or movie), I don't see the need to retell the same story in another. Especially if it's a story I read, watched, or played through prior to the retelling

[SuperFerret]

I see movies like that as an introduction to (whatever) for the "uninitiated", with hopes that they might want to check out the full story. The Last Airbender and Watchmen are good examples of this.

[scatterax]

Superman returns was just ok, but it was still the best superman movie out of all of them.

[Schlosser85]

Tarantino's Kill Bill films, and the Coen brothers' O'Brother Where Art Thou, generally considered among their less impressive films, are the only ones I like by them.

[Tron Bonne]

Tarantino's Kill Bill films, and the Coen brothers' O'Brother Where Art Thou, generally considered among their less impressive films, are the only ones I like by them.

I don't know about that, those got the least amount of award hype, but both of those seem to be fairly high regarded to most.

[SuperFerret]

True Lies is my favorite film made by James Cameron.

[Tron Bonne]

I mentioned this in "The Last Airbender" thread, but I think it works over here better.

If a story is told well in one medium (comic book, novel, video game, tv series: animated or with real people, or movie), I don't see the need to retell the same story in another. Especially if it's a story I read, watched, or played through prior to the retelling

I'm beginning to feel similarly, especially when adaptions are so divorced from what they're suppose to be adapting, or when an actual adaption is basically impossible in a single film

[Cuyan]

I'm beginning to feel similarly, especially when adaptions are so divorced from what they're suppose to be adapting.
http://themehybrid.com/demo/hybrid-news/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/wanted.jpg

[Tron Bonne]

Well, that sucked to begin with, but a pretty good example

[Blackman]

I enjoyed the hell out of the Wanted film. It was funny and had great action. The comic however was terrible I wish I never bought it

[Cuyan]

I enjoyed the hell out of the Wanted film. It was funny and had great action. The comic however was terrible I wish I never bought it
Same here, but reversed.

[SuperFerret]

I have no exposure to or desire to check out either the movie or comic.

[[A]]

Both were terrible.. but the comic actually made me :barf: -- or maybe was something I ate, who knows

[Vile]

After watching The Road I came to the realisation that this movie just didnt need to be made.

Good movie? Yes.
Acting? Great!

After the film, as I walked out, I kinda just shrugged then went for a beer.

[SuperFerret]

No movie ever needs to be made.

[Cuyan]

Super Size Me kinda did.

[SuperFerret]

If you didn't know that eating McDonalds was unhealthy before Super Size Me came out, I can say without a doubt that you are sincerely the stupidest person to ever have lived and that I hope you never procreate and spread your stupidity.

This is more of a general statement, and not directed at anyone in this thread directly. I hope.

[Cuyan]

I was more referring to the effect on the masses.

[SuperFerret]

My statement still stands, and I'm pretty sure that the average person realized how bad it was beforehand anyway, and just ate there anyway (like how everyone knows how bad smoking is, but some still do). I have a lot of issues with that movie though, and it still pisses me off that I can't get Super Sized fries anymore, but I pay the same amount as I did for them for the Large size.

[Sloth7d]

I enjoyed the hell out of the Wanted film. It was funny and had great action. The comic however was terrible I wish I never bought it

I liked the movie. Glanced at the comic in B&N; thought, "what the hell was Millar thinking. Who would enjoy this garbage. I mean I'd rather read Madame Mirage twice then finish this ****." Then I went about my day.

[Tron Bonne]

My statement still stands, and I'm pretty sure that the average person realized how bad it was beforehand anyway, and just ate there anyway (like how everyone knows how bad smoking is, but some still do). I have a lot of issues with that movie though, and it still pisses me off that I can't get Super Sized fries anymore, but I pay the same amount as I did for them for the Large size.

For a pretty significant amount of time people were unaware of how unhealthy smoking was and actually thought it was healthy based on 'studies' that proved it. I'm sure you're partially correct in people knowing it wasn't healthy, but McDonalds and other fast food chains claimed you could basically live off their menus if you had to. Plus, in context, it came from the whole Pelman v. McDonald's Corp. case where, if I remember correctly, that claim was made, so he decided to tackle the idea.

[Parker Wayne]

My statement still stands, and I'm pretty sure that the average person realized how bad it was beforehand anyway, and just ate there anyway (like how everyone knows how bad smoking is, but some still do). I have a lot of issues with that movie though, and it still pisses me off that I can't get Super Sized fries anymore, but I pay the same amount as I did for them for the Large size.

QFFT :up: Super Size me honestly was one of the dumbest documentaries I've ever seen. This guy goes through 30 days risking his health to prove what everyone already knows. Fast food is unhealthy and this guy thinks he's a genius because of it.

For a good food documentary check out Food Inc.

[Tron Bonne]

QFFT :up: Super Size me honestly was one of the dumbest documentaries I've ever seen. This guy goes through 30 days risking his health to prove what everyone already knows. Fast food is unhealthy and this guy thinks he's a genius because of it.

For a good food documentary check out Food Inc.

For a pretty significant amount of time people were unaware of how unhealthy smoking was and actually thought it was healthy based on 'studies' that proved it. I'm sure you're partially correct in people knowing it wasn't healthy, but McDonalds and other fast food chains claimed you could basically live off their menus if you had to. Plus, in context, it came from the whole Pelman v. McDonald's Corp. case where, if I remember correctly, that claim was made, so he decided to tackle the idea.

:up:

[Addendum]

Well, the "studies that proved it" came from the company hocking the smokes. The information about smoking being unhealthy was coming from the patient's doctors. Since I go to my doctor when I feel sick or if a sustain a broken limb, common sense would say "I think the docs know what they're talking about".

The same applies to McD's and other fast food places, so essentially the movie was made for morons who don't listen to their doctors when they say "you might want to cut back on the burgers and fries"

[Tron Bonne]

Well, the "studies that proved it" came from the company hocking the smokes. The information about smoking being unhealthy was coming from the patient's doctors. Since I go to my doctor when I feel sick or if a sustain a broken limb, common sense would say "I think the docs know what they're talking about".

And what? Does that somehow change the fact? And was it really that common for doctors of the time to go against smoking? From my understanding, it wasn't. I know there was anti-smoking movements at the time (from medical and casual parties), but I was under the impressions that it wasn't something that many, including medical doctors, really supported until the 60s or even later

The same applies to McD's and other fast food places, so essentially the movie was made for morons who don't listen to their doctors when they say "you might want to cut back on the burgers and fries"It's easy to just sit back and make the generalization that 'oh, everyone knows that', but does everyone know the extent of it, and more importantly, is it something that a lot of people really think about? I'm sure most people know the effects Wal-Mart has had on smaller businesses, as well as their treatment of employees, but I doubt many knew the extent of many of their practices before The High Cost of Low Prices. That, after all, is one of the points of doing documentaries. If nothing else, it helped to shut up a lot of the corporate PR nonsense (and I remember a lot of it from that period), and kicked McD's and others into providing a slightly healthier alternative to their regular menus (even if it's just a PR move, it's still there). That, to me, is at least worth something, and I really doubt it would have happened if not for that movie, at least not for a longer period of time.

And, like I said, there's a context that spawned the film. He didn't just randomly get out and do this.

[Addendum]

They look like 2 similar situations to me. A company hocks a product (burgers/smokes/sugar with some cereal), some doctors are concerned about the potential health risks from excessive consumption, company issues studies/ads showing how their product can be part of a healthy diet while ignoring the effects from excessive consumption since that would hurt their bottom line since the more they sell, the higher the profit.

[Tron Bonne]

They look like 2 similar situations to me. A company hocks a product (burgers/smokes/sugar with some cereal), some doctors are concerned about the potential health risks from excessive consumption, company issues studies/ads showing how their product can be part of a healthy diet while ignoring the effects from excessive consumption since that would hurt their bottom line since the more they sell, the higher the profit.

Yeah, I got what you were saying and revised my post. I misunderstood what you were you saying at first, my bad

[Addendum]

It's cool. Now if you're going to watch The Last Airbender movie, then we shall part ways.

[Tron Bonne]

I can honestly say that I have no plans for such an activity :o

[Addendum]

Awesome

[SuperFerret]

For a pretty significant amount of time people were unaware of how unhealthy smoking was and actually thought it was healthy based on 'studies' that proved it. I'm sure you're partially correct in people knowing it wasn't healthy, but McDonalds and other fast food chains claimed you could basically live off their menus if you had to. Plus, in context, it came from the whole Pelman v. McDonald's Corp. case where, if I remember correctly, that claim was made, so he decided to tackle the idea.

I've never heard or seen anything suggesting that you could live off fast food, even from the companies. Also, Pelman v. McDonald's Corp was not only a waste of the court's time, but also rife with undeserved senses of entitlement.

Regardless, no movie ever absolutely needs to be made for any reason whatsoever.

[Addendum]

The only reason films get made is for the money. There's that BS about "I gots a story that just has to be told", or some junk about changing the way films are made. No dude, you just want to have a successful movie so's you can be like Scrooge McDuck and take a swim in your profit.

[SuperFerret]

Pretty much. I'm happy for anyone who has a career in the movies, or in music, or in art, you're doing what you love and more power to you for that. Just don't claim that you couldn't do more productive things for the world if you went and got a real job. :awesome:

[Parker Wayne]

The only reason films get made is for the money. There's that BS about "I gots a story that just has to be told", or some junk about changing the way films are made. No dude, you just want to have a successful movie so's you can be like Scrooge McDuck and take a swim in your profit.

Yeah. I can see why it was made. You can make money off of it. I can imagine how the pitch meeting went.

Spurlock - I want to make a documentary about the excess and infamy of the fast food industry, mainly McDonalds.

Executives - yawn.

Spurlock - No, no. It'll be awesome. I'll work really really hard. I'll eat nothing but McDonalds for 30 days. I'll-

Executives - What was that last one?

Spurlock - I'll eat nothing but McDonalds for 30 days?

Executives - Yes. We love that idea! We'll fund it as long as you do that.

Spurlock - ah *****.


And a scientific study was done after Super Size me, and half the weight he gained was off soda.

[Tron Bonne]

And a scientific study was done after Super Size me, and half the weight he gained was off soda.

It was a third, not half, and it wasn't from only soda, it was sugar from various different drinks that include sugar from McD's menu, like milkshakes and smoothies. And it wasn't a study, it was just information his nutritionist released afterward.

Plus, pretty sure that was independently funded film, so there was no back and forth conversion of that manner.

The only reason films get made is for the money. There's that BS about "I gots a story that just has to be told", or some junk about changing the way films are made. No dude, you just want to have a successful movie so's you can be like Scrooge McDuck and take a swim in your profit.

Well, to a degree, sure. I mean people need money to live and support themselves, and to keep making movies. But that's not the only reason people are filmmakers. Some genuinely want to make something of worth. Otherwise, they would never try and make movies that are financially risky, deeply personal, or ones that try and critique certain aspects of life. They would all be in the rush to make the next Transformers.

[Addendum]

Some genuinely want to make something of worth. Otherwise, they would never try and make movies that are financially risky, deeply personal, or ones that try and critique certain aspects of life.

That's still ******** coating to make PR people happy when they give interviews.

[Tron Bonne]

That's still ******** coating to make PR people happy when they give interviews.

I'll gladly acknowledge that money is a firm part of filmmaking (as it is with everything, especially in the States), but are you seriously dismissing these elements as just PR? Fellini's 8 1/2 really isn't a movie that drew heavily from his life and career as a director? Terry Gilliam didn't really fight with producers and studios to get his vision of Brazil as realized as possible? And so and on and so forth. It's one thing to acknowledge the meaning of the dollar, but at least give credit where credit is deserved

[Addendum]

Why do people ask questions when they already know the answer?

[Tron Bonne]

Usually it comes from incredible bafflement at certain claims that you find need to clarify if that is what they really meant

[Addendum]

Even though it's pretty damn clear what I said. So the clarification is simply verbal masturbation with nothing to show for the effort.

[Tron Bonne]

Well, sometimes the claim is so crazy, you just can't help but ask again, you know? Sorry if you thought I planned to lead you into endless and fruitless verbal masturbation.

Anyway, moving on to something else entirely;

-After giving it some thought, I'm not the biggest fan of extending the Best Picture slot at the Oscars. Sure, it does help to give certain genre flicks nominations when they most surely would not have, but I think it's fair to say it'll make no difference in the end. The same movies will win either way. I guess it's nice that those movies can get an extra sticker on the case to catch passer-by customers, but it feels hollow

[Addendum]

All award shows are hollow.

[Tron Bonne]

Well, hollow-er

[SuperFerret]

I'll gladly acknowledge that money is a firm part of filmmaking (as it is with everything, especially in the States), but are you seriously dismissing these elements as just PR? Fellini's 8 1/2 really isn't a movie that drew heavily from his life and career as a director? Terry Gilliam didn't really fight with producers and studios to get his vision of Brazil as realized as possible? And so and on and so forth. It's one thing to acknowledge the meaning of the dollar, but at least give credit where credit is deserved

That's great for them that they can express themselves like that, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking that these movies are needed or important.

[Tron Bonne]

I wasn't talking about being 'needed' or 'important' in that, separate context. Though, what is 'important' is opinion at the end of the day. 'Needed', maybe not so much, but I think art and expression are always needed to a degree. Many people disagree, but hey, that's the name of the thread :o

[SuperFerret]

When I talk about something as being "important", I mean really important, not the artificial importance of things like money and art and politics. When I talk about "important", I'm talking about stuff that's necessary for survival, stuff that when this society collapses will actually be what's important. Art and expression is nice and all, but it's not really important.

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah, but in that case, basically nothing outside instinct and survival skills that you most likely probably won't ever learn are 'important'. If you want to limit and dilute the meaning of 'important' to that, then basically nothing is important.

And, anyway, as I said, I disagree. I prefer a broader term, and yes, I consider those things 'important'.

[SuperFerret]

Hey, I love watching movies, and playing games and all, but it's not really important. It's personally important, but in the end it's just stuff. The way I see it, if something is going to be REALLY important, then it'll be important when the world is ending. Everything else is just there. We don't need to worry about day-to-day survival anymore, so our brains are distracted by this other stuff, and that's all well and good, but it doesn't make it really, truly important, just personally important. That doesn't dilute or limit the meaning of the word, it makes it more meaningful.

[Tron Bonne]

Well, of course it's personally important, but personally important is still important. You think art, entertainment, expression and all that are worthless and all that's 'important' is basic instincts and survival skills. I heavily degree. And that's all I'm going to say to you about it. This is quickly becoming circular, and I really don't see anything but an 'agree to disagree' situation, so I'll end it early.

[Tron Bonne]

EDIT: Post Tripping

[Tron Bonne]

Anyway, on to unpopular opinions, derailed this enough and we need to get back on track:

-Seems like a lot of people think it was okay, but I found House of a 1000 Corpses fairly dreadful. Felt it was all visual flare with little substance.

-On a similar note, I found Edge of Darkness to be dull as a stone. I literally fell asleep twice throughout the movie. I know the movie has gotten fairly mediocre scores thus far, but I have never fallen asleep during a movie. Though, I suppose I might just be getting old :o Despite that, I still would like to check out the original mini-series.

[BlackLantern]

I fell asleep in 'Monkeybone'

[Parker Wayne]

It was a third, not half, and it wasn't from only soda, it was sugar from various different drinks that include sugar from McD's menu, like milkshakes and smoothies. And it wasn't a study, it was just information his nutritionist released afterward.

Plus, pretty sure that was independently funded film, so there was no back and forth conversion of that manner.


Oh. My science teacher told me it was half gained by soda, but I should've looked it up before I posted.

And that was my half-hearted attempt at comedy! :woot:

After giving it some thought, I'm not the biggest fan of extending the Best Picture slot at the Oscars. Sure, it does help to give certain genre flicks nominations when they most surely would not have, but I think it's fair to say it'll make no difference in the end. The same movies will win either way. I guess it's nice that those movies can get an extra sticker on the case to catch passer-by customers, but it feels hollow

I don't its an unpopular opinion, but I understand what you're saying.It forces the academy to lower the bar in some years now (such as this year, the first year).


Anyway, on to unpopular opinions, derailed this enough and we need to get back on track:

-Seems like a lot of people think it was okay, but I found House of a 1000 Corpses fairly dreadful. Felt it was all visual flare with little substance.

-On a similar note, I found Edge of Darkness to be dull as a stone. I literally fell asleep twice throughout the movie. I know the movie has gotten fairly mediocre scores thus far, but I have never fallen asleep during a movie. Though, I suppose I might just be getting old :o Despite that, I still would like to check out the original mini-series.

I fell asleep in 'Monkeybone'

Edge of Darkness was pretty boring. I hope Campbell brings his A-game for Green Lantern!

I never fall asleep during films at movie theaters. I pay $10 for the film and I don't feel like wasting it. However, the only film I was ever close to falling asleep during is Fast and Furious.


Back to unpopular opinions:

- I hated Crash. I think it's one of the worst best picture winners.

- I like Judd Apatow and the Apatow crew despite the fact that he really has no idea how to write women in his films.

- I like Seth Rogen and think he's funny although even though I liked Knocked Up the first time I saw it, I hate it more and more everytime I watch it. At least he's trying to branch out unlike Michael Cera. I hope he does well with Green Hornet.

- I loved Juno. Its starting seem more and more unpopular and I can see why. Ellen Page's title character is a character you will either really love or really hate. I'm for the former.

[Dark Victory]

Nicolas Cage is underrated. While he's done ****, at least he was entertaining; he's the only reason why I'd want to watch, say, the Wicker Man again. Anyone who thinks that he's one of the worst out there probably hasn't seen much.

[Addendum]

Only movie I've liked him in was Raising Arizona

[Tron Bonne]

I generally like him and think he's a pretty good actor. He seems to have just gravitated to some pretty subpar material these last couple of years. Adaptation is the last movie that I remember him doing that I thought was great.

[danoyse]

Nicolas Cage is underrated. While he's done ****, at least he was entertaining; he's the only reason why I'd want to watch, say, the Wicker Man again. Anyone who thinks that he's one of the worst out there probably hasn't seen much.

Although Wicker Man is definitely one of the worst movies out there...

[Blackman]

Comic Book Movie Unpopular Opinions
-Daredevil was fine. I'm not een talking about the DC. The theatrical was good save for a few scenes
-The 1st Fantastic Four movie wasnt the worst I've seen. But it was still pretty lackluster. The 2nd was just unwatchable
-Routh was good with what he was given in SR. Same with Bosworth. Bosworth though was just miscast because she didnt look the part
-Holmes was not that damn bad in BB. Ive rewatched that movie over and over and I still dont get how people treat her like shes one of the worst actresses out there
-I dont see why ppl j**z there pants over the fact that Geoff Johns is writing the script/treatment for Shazam/Flash or that Nolan is helping with the next Superman movie
-The Riddler wont make that interesting of a villain for BB3

[BlackLantern]

I liked DD and thought the suit is one of the best translations from book to film yet

[Tron Bonne]

-The Riddler wont make that interesting of a villain for BB3

Why?

[dude love]

I hope Arnold Schwarzenegger doesn't waste his film comeback in a James Cameron film.

[Blackman]

Why?
because I think he's boring as hell

[Tron Bonne]

because I think he's boring as hell

Based on what? Comic appearances? I think Riddler would be perfect to bring some cool detective elements into the next Batman movie

[Blackman]

based on all the media Ive seen him in

[Tron Bonne]

I was asking for elaboration on that point, like have you read many of his comic appearances, TAS, etc.

What makes you think he's boring? I think performing crimes based on and around riddles is a far cry from boring.

[[A]]

..maybe he just doesn't like crosswords

[Blackman]

Its basically "I did this, come catch me" with the Riddler and not even in a cool Al PAcino/Robert Deniro in Heat kind of way. He doesnt kill, which they could change, he looks corny, his obsession with riddles isnt interesting to me.
And I think he'll even be that original to see
;18056454']..maybe he just doesn't like crosswords

I can never solve those f***ers

[Tron Bonne]

Meh, agree to disagree I suppose. I love the idea of seeing a more detective oriented third movie were Batman has to solve elaborate crimes with clues set in riddles.

[gwynplaine]

I didn't really care for "Heat" which I think is overrated.
I think Nolan said that he took some inspiration from it, but TDK is much better imo.
The Insider is Mann's greatest film.

[Blackman]

I actually think if The Riddler had Joker's story from TDK he could have been really good. Not the schizo clown idea, but the bank robbery, the riddles left to taunt the police/Batman were very well done
But I dont want the next villain to be similar

[[A]]

The Insider is Mann's greatest film.Agreed :up:

[Tron Bonne]

I actually think if The Riddler had Joker's story from TDK he could have been really good. Not the schizo clown idea, but the bank robbery, the riddles left to taunt the police/Batman were very well done
But I dont want the next villain to be similar

I don't think it'd be all that similar. There was the bank robbery and the occasional situation Joker utilized, but outside that it would be pretty different

[Blackman]

I don't think it'd be all that similar. There was the bank robbery and the occasional situation Joker utilized, but outside that it would be pretty different
you're probably right it would be pretty different
It would be much more boring :ninja:

But another unpopular opinion:
People who complain about reboots are the some the whinest people ever only to be topped by pretentious film douches

[VenomVsSpidey]

Why do people ask questions when they already know the answer?


X1 FTW!

Wolfman was damn good, and I have faith in JJ for Captian America.

[[A]]

^ I'm sure those are two different statements, with Joe Johnston as the only -distant- link.. From what I read, Johnston's direction was never a problem in The Wolfman -- or something like that, who cares :hehe:

[VenomVsSpidey]

;18058662']^ I'm sure those are two different statements, with Joe Johnston as the only -distant- link.. From what I read, Johnston's direction was never a problem in The Wolfman -- or something like that, who cares :hehe:


:up: might see it again too, which is funny, as in last year the only film I saw twice was HP6

[TruerToTheCore]

END OF DAYS is a good movie.

[SuperFerret]

It is.

[Tron Bonne]

-Heathers is the best of the whole 'Dark High School' flicks.

-City of Angels is definitely a lesser movie than the original, but it's not horrible by any means. I think it at least touched on the same notes, just in a much more mundane and overall lesser way.

[S.A.A.D.]

-David Cronenberg's Crash is better than the 2005 one
-I think that the Naked Lunch is the best unintentionally funny and most memorable movie ever due to it's weirdness and grossness.

[some guy]

-City of Angels is definitely a lesser movie than the original, but it's not horrible by any means. I think it at least touched on the same notes, just in a much more mundane and overall lesser way.

It was okay. Until Meg Ryan's stupid death scene. Eyes on the road, dammit.:doh:

[[A]]

-David Cronenberg's Crash is better than the 2005 oneThat's not very unpopular; everyone here thinks -the other- Crash s t i n k s

[Dark Victory]

The Green Mile is better than The Shawshank Redemption.

[The Joker]

The Green Mile is better than The Shawshank Redemption.

I agree with that. I felt more for John Coffey than any character in Shawshank.

[Dark Victory]

I agree with that. I felt more for John Coffey than any character in Shawshank.


Took the words right out of me.:up:

[Parker Wayne]

;18062565']That's not very unpopular; everyone here thinks -the other- Crash s t i n k s

I definitely believe that. I remember when an English teacher was showing Crash to her class (I'm not in her class) at my school. When they told me they were watching Crash, I told them I hated it, and many of them got pissed off at me with one of the saying it was the best film they've ever seen. My reaction was "really? :huh:".

So yeah, Crash is by far the worst best picture winner of the 2000s.

[The Navigator]

:hehe:I definitely believe that. I remember when an English teacher was showing Crash to her class (I'm not in her class) at my school. When they told me they were watching Crash, I told them I hated it, and many of them got pissed off at me with one of the saying it was the best film they've ever seen. My reaction was "really? :huh:".

So yeah, Crash is by far the worst best picture winner of the 2000s.

You had an "Elaine vs. The English Patient" moment there. :hehe: