New DTL Recruitment Thread

[wiegeabo]

Ok, the last time I did this, I tried treating the DTL like it's always been treated. This time, I think we'll treat it a bit more like the RPG Fight Club.

A big downfall with previous seasons are players who commit to play, but either can't or don't stick with the game. I think this time we're going to spell out and require the commitment up front, as well as try and streamline things, thereby lessening the burden required by both writers and readers.

Basically, we want this to be fun, not a chore.

So, as the first step, if you wish to own a team, I present to you the all new DTL application. (You do not need to fill out this app if you only wish to read and vote on matches.)


Dream Team League Season VII Application

Screen Name:
Co-Owner Screen Name (if applicable):

Team Name:

Major Rules:

Teams consist of 5 characters; 2 Ubers, 1 Medium, 2 Regulars (think Superman & Thor, Aquaman & Vision, Batman & Spider-Man).
Characters can come from mainstream Marvel and DC universes including Vertigo and Wildstorm. No Amalgam.
Characters above a certain power level are considered too uber and are banned from use. The Silver Surfer and Green Lanterns are towards the top of legal characters.
You can carry a roster of 12 characters to build your team from.
Each week you will write a match of how your team will defeat your opponent's team.
Your teams are allowed 24 hours of prep-time on the battlefield before the fight where they get to see the pictures and names of their opponents. No using any outside resources during prep-time they wouldn't normally have access to.
You will have 2 days and 2 posts to write your prep-time (if any) and battle. Then you will have 1 day and 1 post to write a rebuttal to your opponent.
Then there will be 2 days for readers to vote for who they are most convinced to win.
Then there will be a 2 day break to rest and plan the next week's lineups.
The season will start with a draft, so you will need to create a draft list of potential characters for you team's roster.
You must be willing to commit to at least 12-14 weeks of play.
There will be at least two bye weeks without play to rest. Extra days for writing and voting may be granted for holidays.
Occasional theme weeks will occur throughout the season to spice things up (special battlegrounds, mind-swapping, regulars only, etc...)
In all matters, final decision rests solely with the Commissioner and are final.
Sign your screen name here to indicate you have read and agree to these, and all other, rules:


What can you bring to the game (two full sentences, minimum):

Do you have any ideas or suggestions (not required):

What days are you most likely to be able to write and read (weekends only, weekdays only, any day, specific days, etc...):



We're looking for either 8, 10, or 12 teams this season. Previous experience has shown that more teams is not always a better thing, so if there is enough interest to warrant more than 12 teams, we suggest teaming up with another player. Even if you do not get a team, we welcome your participation in reading and voting on matches, as well as joining in with all discussions. And we'll be sure to keep you in mind for next season, or in case a team needs a new owner this season.

You can find a more detailed list of rules used last season here (http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12926872&postcount=8). There will be an opportunity to discuss possible rule changes before the season starts, so if you have any ideas or questions, feel free to speak up in this thread.

One important rule that will be strictly enforced is NO FLAMING! This became a serious problem in previous seasons. Talking **** is fine. Even arguing is good. But flaming will not be tolerated. First offense will result in a one week suspension and forfeiture of match. Second offense will result in expulsion from the League for the season.

[Ahura Mazda]

Is this going to be full story format again?

[wiegeabo]

Is this going to be full story format again?

The way I'm seeing it, you can write it however you want. But you only get 2 (maybe 3) posts to tell your prep+battle. So there is a character limit.

And there will only be a single rebuttal for each side, allowing another post for that. I want to try and really streamline this.

[Johnny Blaze]

You know I'm down. Especially with it being streamlined and set up to kick out the douchewads before they can get settled in.

Time for the Blazing Horde to make their return. :up:

[Johnny Blaze]

How long must the draft lists be, Wieg? And I take it the draft will be like the old ones, i.e. serpentine style?



And on another note...a trip down memory lane...

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/HypsterJB/DTLDrama.jpg

Special thanks to Tropico and his genius for making the pic. What would we have done without that Rican bastard. :yay:

Though hopefully a lot of the drama can be cut from this revival.

[wiegeabo]

How long must the draft lists be, Wieg? And I take it the draft will be like the old ones, i.e. serpentine style?

Depends on the number of teams.

For each team in the League, your list should have 12 characters. So for a 10 team league, draftlist should be 120 characters long. (96 for 8 teams, 144 for 12 teams).

Now, this is the minimum you need to guarantee you get a character from your list each round (meaning that even if all the other teams picked characters from your list, you'd still get 12 that you wanted).

I will not accept any draft list with fewer then the minimum. It's a headache that I'm going to avoid. But it's easy to come up with a list that big. The DTL Update thread still has lists of characters of all three power rankings. Hell, in Contest of Marvels, we had draft lists of 512 characters, so you could always pull from that.

[Johnny Blaze]

Right on. Only negative I can think of in that, is that it may throw some people off having to come up with 120 characters. But that's not really too big of a deal, what with all the lists floating around. And it would also help make sure that only those with definite interest sign up.

You ever send out PMs to some of the old crew, like Corp, Tim, the Hebrew Halfling, and LadyVader?

[wiegeabo]

Not yet.

[wiegeabo]

Ok, I have now. :p

[random_havoc]

I'd love to join, but I just failed two quizzes in one course, and when I'm normally an A student that's a freakin bad sign.

I will watch and enjoy though :)

[Blacklight]

I'm thinking I'll rejoin for a season, now that I need something to keep me occupied, and I plan on picking an actual GOOD team this time.

[Johnny Blaze]

I'm thinking I'll rejoin for a season, now that I need something to keep me occupied, and I plan on picking an actual GOOD team this time.

That you will. With the draft, everybody should have a decent team, and not have to worry about picking up scrap or obscure characters.

[Ahura Mazda]

I'm in I guess as the CoM seems to be on hold.

[JewishHobbit]

Hmm... I'm considering. CoM is on hold for the time being due to lack of interest but it will be restarting soon and I'm not sure if I have the time to handle both. Not to mention me still being in Survivor for up to another 4 or 5 weeks. But I've always loved the DTL even though I've not played since way back in season 2. And the limited rebuttal makes it easier to make time for so there's not pages and pages of rebuttal (might be a decent change to make in future seasons of the Contest of Marvels when/if we have more).

How long are we looking at before this starts up, W?

And this made me want to go back down memory lane a little....

Season 1:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/OddAllianceBanner01.jpg

Season 2:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/JewishHobbit/Exiles.jpg

[wiegeabo]

Not sure when it'll start up again. Might not be until the end of the month, depending on how long it takes to get owners and hammer out any rule changes.

Also, when I say streamlined, I mean that entire battles + rebuttals take up a maximum 6-8 posts (3 or 4 posts for each side). So, unless we get tons of votes, battle threads will be a single page long.

[Johnny Blaze]

Not sure when it'll start up again. Might not be until the end of the month, depending on how long it takes to get owners and hammer out any rule changes.

Also, when I say streamlined, I mean that entire battles + rebuttals take up a maximum 6-8 posts (3 or 4 posts for each side). So, unless we get tons of votes, battle threads will be a single page long.

That's good. One of the things I always hated was having to sift through pages of ******** arguments over character powers and such to find **** relevant to the actual match.

That, and it will hopefully keep things from getting too heated.

[Harlekin]

Hmmm...

[Johnny Blaze]

Hmmm, what? Hmmm, I'm in? Hmmm, I'm interested? Hmmm, I think I'll pass? Hmmm, my brain just farted? :huh:

[Catman_prb]

Hmm, he's really the messiah and is too good for this world.

[wiegeabo]

I think it's "Hmmm...I'm smoking some top notch Dutch **** and not sharing..."

[Johnny Blaze]

I think it's "Hmmm...I'm smoking some top notch Dutch **** and not sharing..."
:wow:

:cmad:

:bh:

[Harlekin]

Hmmm... I'm interested.

[wiegeabo]

That's good. One of the things I always hated was having to sift through pages of ******** arguments over character powers and such to find **** relevant to the actual match.

That, and it will hopefully keep things from getting too heated.

You can still pack a lot of **** in a single post (especially if you're not quoting everything), but at least it'll be confined to the front page.

[SuperFerret]

I'll get in on this. I think I understand it, and it's best to learn by doing.

[Catman_prb]

I may do. May being the optimum word.

[wiegeabo]

Do or do not, there is no try...

[Johnny Blaze]

Yeah, if you're on the fence, you aren't being put on the owner list. Once all the slots are filled, you're ****ed.
If owning a team by yourself seems like too much, you can always get with another poster and own a team together.

Remember though, baring any unforeseen circumstances, you're in it for the long haul. This isn't like an RPG where you can sign up for a character and then decide to drop them a few weeks into it. You do that, you **** everything up. So make sure you're in it to win it before committing.

[Johnny Blaze]

Also, Wieg...how are we handling alternate versions of characters (i.e. Red Son Superman, Vampire Batman, Cosmic Spidey, etc)?

[Catman_prb]

Oh **** it, I'm in. Damn you all.

[wiegeabo]

Oh **** it, I'm in. Damn you all.

Your journey is complete. Now, witness the power of this fully functional...


Whoa, gotta watch out when writing SW posts.

[wiegeabo]

Also, Wieg...how are we handling alternate versions of characters (i.e. Red Son Superman, Vampire Batman, Cosmic Spidey, etc)?

Only two versions of a character can exist.

So if someone has Superman, and someone has Superman Blue, that's two Clark Kents. No more allowed.

But we can have twenty Green Lanterns as long as one is Kyle, one is Alan, one is Kilowag, one is Hal...

Or, I guess, two can be Kyle, two can be Alan, ...

[Johnny Blaze]

So, the list of owners thus far is...

Wiegeabo
Johnny Blaze
Ahura Mazda
Blacklight
SuperFerret
Catman_prb

Close to the goal of at least 8 teams.

[wiegeabo]

And yet no one's filled out an application yet.

No one gets a team without filling out an app that I can hold over your head.

Seriously.

[wiegeabo]

That's right. I'm so serious, the Hype double posted for me.

[Johnny Blaze]

And yet no one's filled out an application yet.

No one gets a team without filling out an app that I can hold over your head.

Seriously.

I didn't know we were supposed to do that here? :huh:

[wiegeabo]

....why you gotta go and point out the loopholes?

[Johnny Blaze]

....why you gotta go and point out the loopholes?

Because I'm an ass? :huh:

[wiegeabo]

Because I'm an ass? :huh:

...well played.

[Johnny Blaze]

Screen Name: Johnny Blaze
Co-Owner Screen Name (if applicable): None

Team Name: The Blazing Horde

Major Rules:

Teams consist of 5 characters; 2 Ubers, 1 Medium, 2 Regulars (think Superman & Thor, Aquaman & Vision, Batman & Spider-Man).
Characters can come from mainstream Marvel and DC universes including Vertigo and Wildstorm. No Amalgam.
Characters above a certain power level are considered too uber and are banned from use. The Silver Surfer and Green Lanterns are towards the top of legal characters.
You can carry a roster of 12 characters to build your team from.
Each week you will write a match of how your team will defeat your opponent's team.
Your teams are allowed 24 hours of prep-time on the battlefield before the fight where they get to see the pictures and names of their opponents. No using any outside resources during prep-time they wouldn't normally have access to.
You will have 2 days and 2 posts to write your prep-time (if any) and battle. Then you will have 1 day and 1 post to write a rebuttal to your opponent.
Then there will be 2 days for readers to vote for who they are most convinced to win.
Then there will be a 2 day break to rest and plan the next week's lineups.
The season will start with a draft, so you will need to create a draft list of potential characters for you team's roster.
You must be willing to commit to at least 12-14 weeks of play.
There will be at least two bye weeks without play to rest. Extra days for writing and voting may be granted for holidays.
Occasional theme weeks will occur throughout the season to spice things up (special battlegrounds, mind-swapping, regulars only, etc...)
In all matters, final decision rests solely with the Commissioner and are final.
Sign your screen name here to indicate you have read and agree to these, and all other, rules:

Johnathan Blaze Esquire III

What can you bring to the game (two full sentences, minimum): I'm a DTL veteran and the dirty SOB who started this thing, so I've got a lot of experience on how this **** goes. I like to think I'm a fairly decent writer, and I'm a huge fantasy sports fan. And the DTL is pretty much fantasy football, only with comic characters who kill each other every week in mega-super-happy deathmatches.

Do you have any ideas or suggestions (not required): Yes. I should be allowed to have Thanos. :cmad:

What days are you most likely to be able to write and read (weekends only, weekdays only, any day, specific days, etc...): My schedule is never a set thing, but I usually have at least some down time during a day that I spend ****ing around on the computer. So any day is as good as the other for me.

[Ahura Mazda]

Dream Team League Season VI Application

Screen Name:
Co-Owner Screen Name (if applicable):

Team Name: The Immortals

Major Rules:

Teams consist of 5 characters; 2 Ubers, 1 Medium, 2 Regulars (think Superman & Thor, Aquaman & Vision, Batman & Spider-Man).
Characters can come from mainstream Marvel and DC universes including Vertigo and Wildstorm. No Amalgam.
Characters above a certain power level are considered too uber and are banned from use. The Silver Surfer and Green Lanterns are towards the top of legal characters.
You can carry a roster of 12 characters to build your team from.
Each week you will write a match of how your team will defeat your opponent's team.
Your teams are allowed 24 hours of prep-time on the battlefield before the fight where they get to see the pictures and names of their opponents. No using any outside resources during prep-time they wouldn't normally have access to.
You will have 2 days and 2 posts to write your prep-time (if any) and battle. Then you will have 1 day and 1 post to write a rebuttal to your opponent.
Then there will be 2 days for readers to vote for who they are most convinced to win.
Then there will be a 2 day break to rest and plan the next week's lineups.
The season will start with a draft, so you will need to create a draft list of potential characters for you team's roster.
You must be willing to commit to at least 12-14 weeks of play.
There will be at least two bye weeks without play to rest. Extra days for writing and voting may be granted for holidays.
Occasional theme weeks will occur throughout the season to spice things up (special battlegrounds, mind-swapping, regulars only, etc...)
In all matters, final decision rests solely with the Commissioner and are final.
Sign your screen name here to indicate you have read and agree to these, and all other, rules:

Ahura Mazda

What can you bring to the game (two full sentences, minimum):

A good ability to debate for my team. My story writing skills are not very high but I can make up for that by being creative.




What days are you most likely to be able to write and read (weekends only, weekdays only, any day, specific days, etc...):

Weekdays only and mostly when all of you are asleep.

[Blacklight]

Dream Team League Season VI Application

Screen Name: Blacklight
Co-Owner Screen Name (if applicable): n/a

Team Name: the REAL Ultimate Alliance



Major Rules:

Teams consist of 5 characters; 2 Ubers, 1 Medium, 2 Regulars (think Superman & Thor, Aquaman & Vision, Batman & Spider-Man).
Characters can come from mainstream Marvel and DC universes including Vertigo and Wildstorm. No Amalgam.
Characters above a certain power level are considered too uber and are banned from use. The Silver Surfer and Green Lanterns are towards the top of legal characters.
You can carry a roster of 12 characters to build your team from.
Each week you will write a match of how your team will defeat your opponent's team.
Your teams are allowed 24 hours of prep-time on the battlefield before the fight where they get to see the pictures and names of their opponents. No using any outside resources during prep-time they wouldn't normally have access to.
You will have 2 days and 2 posts to write your prep-time (if any) and battle. Then you will have 1 day and 1 post to write a rebuttal to your opponent.
Then there will be 2 days for readers to vote for who they are most convinced to win.
Then there will be a 2 day break to rest and plan the next week's lineups.
The season will start with a draft, so you will need to create a draft list of potential characters for you team's roster.
You must be willing to commit to at least 12-14 weeks of play.
There will be at least two bye weeks without play to rest. Extra days for writing and voting may be granted for holidays.
Occasional theme weeks will occur throughout the season to spice things up (special battlegrounds, mind-swapping, regulars only, etc...)
In all matters, final decision rests solely with the Commissioner and are final.
Sign your screen name here to indicate you have read and agree to these, and all other, rules:



-Blacklight

What can you bring to the game (two full sentences, minimum): I know how the DTL works due to my brief participation years ago, so i can bring some experience, and I have a good, if not better understanding of both the DC and Marvel Universes. Something that'll help how I approach the upcoming Season.


Do you have any ideas or suggestions (not required): An idea I had was that the number of team members would vary once in a while. Rather than 1 or 5 like regular matches, we could also have one week were it's 2 on 2, 3 on 3, 4 on 4, etc...

What days are you most likely to be able to write and read (weekends only, weekdays only, any day, specific days, etc...): Depends on when I'm working, but I have alot more time now.

[Johnny Blaze]

I like the idea of a theme week with it 2 on 2 or what not. Adds a little wrinkle to the scheme of things.

[wiegeabo]

JB, AH, and BL are all approved.

And Johnny Blaze is officially my first Lieutenant. Which means if I'm absent, he has the authority to murder and sacrifice in my name.


And to be fair...

Dream Team League Season VI Application

Screen Name: wiegeabo
Co-Owner Screen Name (if applicable): none. I'm hardcore that way.

Team Name: Chaos & Order

Major Rules:

Teams consist of 5 characters; 2 Ubers, 1 Medium, 2 Regulars (think Superman & Thor, Aquaman & Vision, Batman & Spider-Man).
Characters can come from mainstream Marvel and DC universes including Vertigo and Wildstorm. No Amalgam.
Characters above a certain power level are considered too uber and are banned from use. The Silver Surfer and Green Lanterns are towards the top of legal characters.
You can carry a roster of 12 characters to build your team from.
Each week you will write a match of how your team will defeat your opponent's team.
Your teams are allowed 24 hours of prep-time on the battlefield before the fight where they get to see the pictures and names of their opponents. No using any outside resources during prep-time they wouldn't normally have access to.
You will have 2 days and 2 posts to write your prep-time (if any) and battle. Then you will have 1 day and 1 post to write a rebuttal to your opponent.
Then there will be 2 days for readers to vote for who they are most convinced to win.
Then there will be a 2 day break to rest and plan the next week's lineups.
The season will start with a draft, so you will need to create a draft list of potential characters for you team's roster.
You must be willing to commit to at least 12-14 weeks of play.
There will be at least two bye weeks without play to rest. Extra days for writing and voting may be granted for holidays.
Occasional theme weeks will occur throughout the season to spice things up (special battlegrounds, mind-swapping, regulars only, etc...)
In all matters, final decision rests solely with the Commissioner and are final.
Sign your screen name here to indicate you have read and agree to these, and all other, rules:



wiegeabo kilijabob fahrvergnügen


What can you bring to the game (two full sentences, minimum): I'm currently the commissioner of the Dream Team League, and have played in it for all 5 pervious seasons. I'm excited to see if this new format will bring new life and levels of participation to the game in season 6.

Do you have any ideas or suggestions (not required): My ideas have already been incorporated into the rules. But I curious to see what changes and suggestions our new players will bring.

What days are you most likely to be able to write and read (weekends only, weekdays only, any day, specific days, etc...): I can write most days, but Fridays - Sundays are best for me.

[wiegeabo]

I like the idea of a theme week with it 2 on 2 or what not. Adds a little wrinkle to the scheme of things.

Definitely keep a list of potential theme weeks.

*digs through his files*

1. No Uber Week
2. Middleweight Week
3. Regular Week
4. Team Swap Week
5. Uber Week
6. Alignment Swap Week
7. Full Disclosure Week
8. No Prep-Time Week
9. Ambush Week
10. Mind-Swap week

[Johnny Blaze]

JB, AH, and BL are all accepted.

And Johnny Blaze is officially my first Lieutenant. Which means if I'm absent, he has the authority to murder in sacrifice in my name.


Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! *Sharpens knives* :yay:

[wiegeabo]

Can't wait to see your new recipes.

[SuperFerret]

Dream Team League Season VI Application

Screen Name:SuperFerret

Team Name:The Mongooses, that's a good team name. "The Fighting Mongooses."

Major Rules:

Teams consist of 5 characters; 2 Ubers, 1 Medium, 2 Regulars (think Superman & Thor, Aquaman & Vision, Batman & Spider-Man).
Characters can come from mainstream Marvel and DC universes including Vertigo and Wildstorm. No Amalgam.
Characters above a certain power level are considered too uber and are banned from use. The Silver Surfer and Green Lanterns are towards the top of legal characters.
You can carry a roster of 12 characters to build your team from.
Each week you will write a match of how your team will defeat your opponent's team.
Your teams are allowed 24 hours of prep-time on the battlefield before the fight where they get to see the pictures and names of their opponents. No using any outside resources during prep-time they wouldn't normally have access to.
You will have 2 days and 2 posts to write your prep-time (if any) and battle. Then you will have 1 day and 1 post to write a rebuttal to your opponent.
Then there will be 2 days for readers to vote for who they are most convinced to win.
Then there will be a 2 day break to rest and plan the next week's lineups.
The season will start with a draft, so you will need to create a draft list of potential characters for you team's roster.
You must be willing to commit to at least 12-14 weeks of play.
There will be at least two bye weeks without play to rest. Extra days for writing and voting may be granted for holidays.
Occasional theme weeks will occur throughout the season to spice things up (special battlegrounds, mind-swapping, regulars only, etc...)
In all matters, final decision rests solely with the Commissioner and are final.
Sign your screen name here to indicate you have read and agree to these, and all other, rules:


- Super Von Ferretus, CVT

What can you bring to the game (two full sentences, minimum):I can bring my own particular brand of awesomeness, as well as the ever present suspense of "will he continue to post?" I'm kidding, I'll stick with this.

Do you have any ideas or suggestions (not required): Three words: Hostess Snack Cakes

What days are you most likely to be able to write and read (weekends only, weekdays only, any day, specific days, etc...): Nights mostly, occasional daytimes.

[JewishHobbit]

So how many seasons did it run last time before this revival?


Also, Remind me, how long does a season typically last?

[wiegeabo]

It stalled out in Season 4, we had a strong season 5, then season 6 fizzled out.

[wiegeabo]

Just a quick breakdown of how everything works for our new players.

I'll put out a list of all matchups for the season. We'll have a couple of days between matches to finalize what teams we want to use. You'll post your lineup in the Transactions thread (links at the bottom). You and your opponent can keep changing lineups until a certain time at which point the lineups will be locked.

The Transactions thread is also where you'll announce any lineup changes, or if you want to announce trades for characters on other teams.


The Discussion Thread is for general discussion about anything in the game or outside. (Think of it like the Dungeons and Flagons thread, but also with possible DTL discussion).


The Rankings thread is where we talk about what characters should be ranked. It also has pretty good lists of characters of various power levels.


The Update thread houses our rules, as well as lineups, and matches, our win/loss records, and the characters on our teams. It's basically a big FAQ.


We have four threads because, when it was all in one thread, there was so much activity that was very common for important posts to go unnoticed.


Also, each week I'll post the matches. Each match getting their own thread. Owners will have two days to post their battles. On the third day, they can post a rebuttal. Then there will be two days for voting. Then two days to prepare for the next week.


Feel free to look through the DTL sub-forum. I recommend the season 5 battles if you want to look at those. Participation was higher, and their weren't as many arguments (season 6 got nasty at points, which I hope to avoid this time).



Discussion Thread (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=313260)
Transactions Thread (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=289278)
Rankings Thread (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=288397)
Update Thread (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=285281)

[JewishHobbit]

It stalled out in Season 4, we had a strong season 5, then season 6 fizzled out.

So did you finish seasons 4 and 6?

[wiegeabo]

Season 4 we cut short and moved right into the playoffs to finish.

6 just died away.

[JewishHobbit]

I really think I want to play but I don't want to be one of those people who say I can and end up not doing much due to time restraints. Sucks not knowing my own availability. I hate the idea of sharing a team though :)

[wiegeabo]

The way I'm seeing the season play out, with 8 teams, is that we play everyone once. So that's 7 weeks. We'll take a week off in the middle if needed. A week off before the playoffs, and two weeks of playoffs.

That's 11 weeks tops, with 2 weeks off for rest if we need it. It might go a little longer if we run into the holidays since we grant extra time for those.

If we have more than 8 teams, it might add a couple of weeks. But I'll try to keep it limited to 3 months (including breaks). So I'd guess we'd wrap up the season sometime after New Years.

[JewishHobbit]

Man, after 3 seasons of Contest of Marvels that feels like nothing!

[wiegeabo]

hahahahaha

[LadyVader]

Well hello again. :) I'm going to consider it. I haven't been reading my comcis like I used to and I think my inspiration might be limited. Not to mention that you know, I enjoy the creative side of it, thinking of strategies, writing the story, but I don't enjoy the combative side of it. Like arguing over every little detail, the last beating Aristotle gave me kinda took the fun out of the whole thing for me. Of course, it has nothing to do with the system itself, but rather the oponents you face. :)

So yeah, I'll consider it.

[Harlekin]

Would it be possible to not go along with the draft and assemble a team afterwards?

[JewishHobbit]

Why don't you do the draft and then change tons of it afterwards? That way you might still get a few top players in the process.

[Harlekin]

Wouldn't be very fair, IMO.

[wiegeabo]

Well hello again. :) I'm going to consider it. I haven't been reading my comcis like I used to and I think my inspiration might be limited. Not to mention that you know, I enjoy the creative side of it, thinking of strategies, writing the story, but I don't enjoy the combative side of it. Like arguing over every little detail, the last beating Aristotle gave me kinda took the fun out of the whole thing for me. Of course, it has nothing to do with the system itself, but rather the oponents you face. :)

So yeah, I'll consider it.

Well, that's why this season we're going to try focusing on battling over arguing.

[Johnny Blaze]

Wouldn't be very fair, IMO.

How would that not be fair? Everybody does the draft, so it's not like you're getting an advantage over anybody. :huh:

[Harlekin]

How would that not be fair? Everybody does the draft, so it's not like you're getting an advantage over anybody. :huh:
While it's still random, I'd be vying for, say, four characters, while everybody else is going for the full twelve (considering I'd be switching a good number out almost immediately anyway). I've already got a bit of my team figured out and I'm willing to take the gamble nobody will pick these guys.

Potentially, I could end up hogging some top-level characters.

[Johnny Blaze]

While it's still random, I'd be vying for, say, four characters, while everybody else is going for the full twelve (considering I'd be switching a good number out almost immediately anyway). I've already got a bit of my team figured out and I'm willing to take the gamble nobody will pick these guys.

Potentially, I could end up hogging some top-level characters.

If you're dropping them anyway, provided your characters in mind are still available, what's the problem? :huh:

[wiegeabo]

Maybe we should go with 3 mini-drafts for Ubers, Med's Regs.

So we'll have a list for each (which means you'll only need your top 8 choices for Meds, for example) Gives us a little better control over drafting our teams.

[Harlekin]

If you're dropping them anyway, provided your characters in mind are still available, what's the problem? :huh:
You'd be screwed out the draft, wouldn't you? After switching out my characters, it'd be first come first serve for the dropped ones, yeah?

[Johnny Blaze]

Maybe we should go with 3 mini-drafts for Ubers, Med's Regs.

So we'll have a list for each (which means you'll only need your top 8 choices for Meds, for example) Gives us a little better control over drafting our teams.
I like that idea. I say we rock that like a hurricane. :up:

You'd be screwed out the draft, wouldn't you? After switching out my characters, it'd be first come first serve for the dropped ones, yeah?

So just put the ones you do want to try and draft at the top, and a bunch of ******** characters afterward. Or, if Wieg allows it, just the ones you want and that's it.

[Harlekin]

Wieg?

[wiegeabo]

I just remembered why we never did the draft by rankings. Because people like to have different numbers of characters in each rank.

You know what. Last season, to give the draft some more weight, and expose players to other characters, I think we locked the teams for the first week. It made sure people made their draft lists count.

[Harlekin]

So, can I just skip the draft and then make due with what I can assemble?

[Johnny Blaze]

So...I take it that the old crew were not interested?

[wiegeabo]

Approved owners
Wiegeabo
Johnny Blaze
Ahura Mazda
Blacklight
SuperFerret


Interested owners
Catman_prb
Harlekin

[wiegeabo]

Had a crazy idea for a theme: Amalgam week.

And it has nothing to do with the Amalgam universe.


I haven't thought about any real details, and it may turn out to be more trouble than it's worth. But the basic idea is that you combine characters on your team into amalgam versions and then battle them against your opponent's amalgamized characters.

[Johnny Blaze]

Interesting concept. What would the restrictions be? Would the characters you amalgamize have to be the same class? Or could I merge, say, Superman and Spider-Man, for instance?


Also...I take it none of the former players you PMed were interested?

[wiegeabo]

Except for the Hobbit, I haven't gotten any response back yet.


At first I thought about merging only within class, but then I realized we'd be merging ubers together. Which can be iffy.

Maybe we'd restrict it to a regular, or reg/Med, only fight. And then you can Amalgam within class. So Spider-Wing and AquaVision can fight against BatDevil and the Iron Beetle.

[wiegeabo]

Except for the Hobbit, I haven't gotten any response back yet.


At first I thought about merging only within class, but then I realized we'd be merging ubers together. Which can be iffy.

Maybe we'd restrict it to a regular, or reg/Med, only fight. And then you can Amalgam within class. So Spider-Wing and AquaVision can fight against BatDevil and the Iron Beetle.

[Johnny Blaze]

Eh, why cut out the Ubers? Especially when I'm sure there will be a few teams with a few Ubers on their bench.
Just make it so an Uber can only merge with a Reg. That should solve any Tuber problems.

[wiegeabo]

Could do that, but what's the advantage of merging Superman and Spider-Man? Does Supes really need webshooters?

[Johnny Blaze]

No, but Supes with a Spider-Sense and the enhanced agility would definitely be a plus.

Still, that's only half the point, right? The Amalgam theme would be just as much about being creative and having fun with the pairings as it would be a strategic advantage.

And, as I mentioned above, there'd be a few teams that would have to add characters just for one week since they wouldn't be allowed to use the Ubers on their roster.

Don't be a pussy. If you're going to do it, go balls to the wall. :up:

[Ahura Mazda]

So when is this starting?

[JewishHobbit]

Just so you guys know, I'm still interested. I'm not sure yet whether I'll join, but i'll decide by the time he show starts. And if I decide I don't have the time to run a team, I've spoken to Ahura and we may share a team.

But the more I think about it the more I think about it the more I realize I miss it, so I'll likely join with my own team.

[wiegeabo]

Once we get a full League. We're still a couple of players short.

[Johnny Blaze]

Yeah, so all you little wishy-washy pussies who are on the fence, get your balls to drop and sign up. :cmad:

[wiegeabo]

Ok, since we have five accepted owners, and three on the fence, what if we shoot for a six team season. The benefit is a shorter season, so if our new format doesn't save as much time as we expect, the season won't kill us. It also gives those still on the fence the chance to team up with other owners to share time and get a feel for how we do things. Plus it means a shorter draft list.

At least this way we could get things started up soon.

With six teams, I'm thinking of having two conferences of three teams each, the top two or four teams going to the playoffs. With this methid, we play each team in our conference twice, the other conference once. That's seven matches. Add one or two weeks for breaks if we need them, one or two for playoffs.

Thoughts?

[Johnny Blaze]

Sounds good to me. :up:

[JewishHobbit]

Oh what the heck... I'm in.

Dream Team League Season VII Application

Screen Name: JewishHobbit
Co-Owner Screen Name (if applicable):

Team Name: The Odd Alliance

Major Rules:
Teams consist of 5 characters; 2 Ubers, 1 Medium, 2 Regulars (think Superman & Thor, Aquaman & Vision, Batman & Spider-Man).
Characters can come from mainstream Marvel and DC universes including Vertigo and Wildstorm. No Amalgam.
Characters above a certain power level are considered too uber and are banned from use. The Silver Surfer and Green Lanterns are towards the top of legal characters.
You can carry a roster of 12 characters to build your team from.
Each week you will write a match of how your team will defeat your opponent's team.
Your teams are allowed 24 hours of prep-time on the battlefield before the fight where they get to see the pictures and names of their opponents. No using any outside resources during prep-time they wouldn't normally have access to.
You will have 2 days and 2 posts to write your prep-time (if any) and battle. Then you will have 1 day and 1 post to write a rebuttal to your opponent.
Then there will be 2 days for readers to vote for who they are most convinced to win.
Then there will be a 2 day break to rest and plan the next week's lineups.
The season will start with a draft, so you will need to create a draft list of potential characters for you team's roster.
You must be willing to commit to at least 12-14 weeks of play.
There will be at least two bye weeks without play to rest. Extra days for writing and voting may be granted for holidays.
Occasional theme weeks will occur throughout the season to spice things up (special battlegrounds, mind-swapping, regulars only, etc...)
In all matters, final decision rests solely with the Commissioner and are final.
Sign your screen name here to indicate you have read and agree to these, and all other, rules:

JEWISH FREAKING HOBBIT!!!!!

What can you bring to the game (two full sentences, minimum):I can bring Marvel expertise and DC Ignorance! I can bring my foot up W's hind quarters!

Do you have any ideas or suggestions (not required): None whatsoever!

[Johnny Blaze]

You didn't sign your name. Just like a Jew to try and weasel it's way out of a contract. :cmad:

[wiegeabo]

You didn't sign your name. Just like a Jew to try and weasel it's way out of a contract. :cmad:

I'll start building the ghetto.


...actually, now that I think about it...I'll make him start building the ghetto.

[Johnny Blaze]

Hahahahahaha! Ahhhhh...we're going to Hell. :o

[SuperFerret]

So will the Jews. :awesome:

[JewishHobbit]

You'll all be laughing when I own everything! All the Ferrets, all theGhettos, all the... wiegeabos?

By the way... would Lafreeze or whatever his name is(the Orange Lantern) be tuber? I was just thinking about him at work today.

[wiegeabo]

Yeah, I think Lafreeze would be tuber since he's essentially the orange version of the Guardians. Maybe if we saw an actual way to hurt him...but not even blue rings do that. They just sate his appetite.

[SuperFerret]

I think about him all the time. :heart: He can have all of my love.

[JewishHobbit]

Yeah, I'd say he's the greatest thing to come out of this whole War of Light thing. He had me from the "I want one!" line about the blue ring. He's awesome.

And with me officially joining does that give us the 6 you were hoping for?

[Johnny Blaze]

It sure as **** does! :woot:

Now everybody just needs to come up with a draft list of at least 72 characters for Wieg and we can get this shindig started. :up:

[wiegeabo]

Hey! I never approved his application. The bastard never signed! :cmad:

[Johnny Blaze]

That's right! Got damn Heeb still has to sign! Fire up the ovens! :cmad:

[JewishHobbit]

There, signed!

Oh, and I'm too tired to read through the rules again but I may have overlooked it... is there still rules on how many Marvel and how many DC characters you have to have in your line up or play per week?

[Johnny Blaze]

I'm fairly certain you still have to have at least two of each.

[Johnny Blaze]

Here's a list of characters for those of you having problems coming up with 72 *******s.
Also, the DTL Rankings thread has a ****load of pre-ranked characters listed as well. So there's no lack of help so that you ****ers can get your draft lists done. :cmad:

Key
MU = Marvel Uber
DC = DC Uber
MM = Marvel Middleweight
DM = DC Middleweight
MR = Marvel Regular
DR = DC Regular
F= Female

1) Red Tornado (DU)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/RedTornadoII.htm

2) Cyborg Superman (DU)
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/comics/who/who-intro.php?topic=cyborg

3) M’Onel (DU)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/M'Onel.htm

4) Loki (MU)
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/l/loki.htm

5) Taskmaster (MR)
http://spider-bob.com/comicspage/marvel/marvel_index.htm

6) Cyborg (DM)
http://titanstower.com/source/whoswho/cyborg.html

7) Raven (DR) (F)
http://titanstower.com/source/whoswho/raven.html

8) Wondergirl (Cassie Sandsmark) (DR) (F)
http://titanstower.com/source/whoswho/wondergirl.html

9) Namor (MM)
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/submariner.htm

10) Kid Flash (Bart Allen) (DM)
http://titanstower.com/source/whoswho/kidflash2.html

11) Android Hourman (DU)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/HourmanIII.htm

12) Beast Boy (DR)
http://titanstower.com/source/whoswho/beastboy.html

13) Moon Knight (MR)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/marvel/MoonKnight.htm

14) Black Panther (MR)
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackpanther.htm

15) Maestro (MU)
http://incrediblehulk.com/themaestro.html

16) The Persuader (DM)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/Persuader.htm

17) Spider (Exiles) (MR)
http://uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1762

18) Mystique (MR) (F)
http://uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=740

19) Captain Marvel Jr (DU)
http://titanstower.com/source/whoswho/CM3.html

20) Green Lantern (Alan Scott) (DU)
http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/HERORPG/Alan.html

21) Superboy (Connor Kent) (DM)
http://titanstower.com/source/whoswho/superboy.html

22) Nightwing (DR)
http://titanstower.com/source/whoswho/dgrayson.html

23) Indigo (DR) (F)
http://titanstower.com/source/whoswho/outsiders.html#ind

24) Shift (DU)
http://titanstower.com/source/whoswho/outsiders.html#meta

25) Psimon (DU)
http://titanstower.com/source/whoswho/fear5.html#psi

26) Mimic (MU)
http://uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=712

27) Juggernaut (MU)
http://uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=596

28) Shatterstar (MR)
http://uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=942

29) Ultimate Captain America (MR)
http://www.angelfire.com/comics/ultimatemarvel/ultimatecaptainamerica.html

30) Abomination (MU)
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/a/abomination.htm

31) Extant (DU)
http://titanstower.com/source/whoswho/hawk.html#ext

32) Black Queen (Selene) (MM) (F)
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackqueen.htm

33) Magenta (DR) (F)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/Magenta.htm

34) Plastic Man (DM)
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/comics/who/who-intro.php?topic=plastic-man

35) Atomic Skull (DM)
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/comics/who/who-intro.php?topic=atomic-skull

36) Brainiac 13 (DU)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/Brainiac13.htm

37) Circe (DU) (F)
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/comics/who/who-intro.php?topic=circe

38) Metallo (DU)
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/comics/who/who-intro.php?topic=metallo

39) Blade (MR)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/marvel/Blade.htm

40) Doc Samson (MM)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/marvel/DocSamson.htm

41) Forge (MR)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/marvel/Forge.htm

42) Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze) (MR)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/marvel/GhostRiderIV.htm

43) Hyperion (MU)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/marvel/HyperionIII.htm

44) Iron Fist (MR)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/marvel/IronFist.htm

45) Mantis (MR) (F)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/marvel/Mantis.htm

46) Metamorpho (DU)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/Metamorpho.htm

47) Troia (DM) (F)
http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/HERORPG/Donna.html

48) Scorn (DU)
http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/HERORPG/Ceritak.html

49) Firestorm (Raymond/Stein) (DU)
http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/HERORPG/Ronnie.html

50) Sand (DM)
http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/GoldenHeroes/Html/Bizzaro2.asp?UniqueId=133

51) Nemesis II (DR) (F)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/NemesisII.htm

52) Tempest (DM)
http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/HERORPG/GarthII.html

53) Atom-Smasher (DM)
http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/GoldenHeroes/Html/Character2.asp?UniqueId=142

54) Aztek (DM)
http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/GoldenHeroes/Html/Bizzaro2.asp?UniqueId=75

55) Black Canary II (DR) (F)
http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/GoldenHeroes/Html/Character.asp?UniqueId=44

56) Captain Atom (DU)
http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/GoldenHeroes/Html/Bizzaro.asp?UniqueId=77

57) Deadman (DM)
http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/GoldenHeroes/Html/Bizzaro.asp?UniqueId=17

58) Etrigan (DM)
http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/GoldenHeroes/Html/Character2.asp?UniqueId=87

59) Flash (Jay Garrick) (DU)
http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/GoldenHeroes/Html/Character.asp?UniqueId=25

60) Green Lantern (John Stewart) (DU)
http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/GoldenHeroes/Html/Bizzaro.asp?UniqueId=51

61) Jakeem Thunder/Thunderbolt (DU)
http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/GoldenHeroes/Html/Character.asp?UniqueId=168

62) Jericho (DR)
http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/GoldenHeroes/Html/Character2.asp?UniqueId=4

63) Major Disaster (DU)
http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/GoldenHeroes/Html/Character.asp?UniqueId=90

64) Mr. Terrific (Michael Holt) (DR)
http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/GoldenHeroes/Html/Character.asp?UniqueId=139

65) Killer Frost (DR) (F)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/KillerFrostII.htm

66) Prometheus (DR)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/Prometheus.htm

67) General Zod (DU)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/GeneralZod.htm

68) Gog (DU)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/Gog.htm

69) Gorilla Grodd (DM)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/GorillaGrodd.htm

70) Fatality (DR) (F)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/Fatality.htm

71) Weather Wizard (DM)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/WeatherWizard.htm

72) Zoom (Hunter Zolomon) (DU)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/Zoom.htm

73) Major Force (DU)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/MajorForce.htm

74) Mongul (DU)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/MongulI.htm

75) Star Sapphire II (DM) (F)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/StarSapphireII.htm

76) Zookeeper (DR)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/Zookeeper.htm

77) The Shade (DR)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/Shade.htm

78) Scarebeast (DR)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/Scarebeast.htm

79) Solomon Grundy (DU)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/SolomonGrundy.htm

80) The Curse (DU)
http://spider-bob.com/gods_monsters/dc/Curse.htm

81) Johnny Sorrow (DM)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/JohnnySorrow.htm

82) Gambit (MR)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/marvel/Gambit.htm

83) Iceman (MR)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/marvel/Iceman.htm

84) Crystal (MU) (F)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/marvel/Crystal.htm

85) Nocturne (MR) (F)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/marvel/Nocturne.htm

86) Sister Superior (Vera Lynn Black) (DM) (F)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/SisterSuperior.htm

87) Annihilus (MU)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/marvel/Annihilus.htm

88) Super-Skrull (MU)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/marvel/SuperSkrull.htm

89) Terrax (MU)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/marvel/Terrax.htm

90) Namorita (MR) (F)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/marvel/Namorita.htm

91) Absorbing Man (MU)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/marvel/AbsorbingMan.htm

92) Electro (MM)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/marvel/ElectroII.htm

93) Spark (DR) (F)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/Spark.htm

94) Sandman (MM)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/marvel/Sandman.htm

95) Red Skull (MR)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/marvel/RedSkull.htm

96) Kang the Conqueror (MU)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/marvel/Kang.htm

97) Count Nefaria (MU)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/marvel/CountNefaria.htm

98) The Mandarin (MU)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/marvel/MandarinII.htm

99) Ulik (MM)
http://spider-bob.com/villains/marvel/Ulik.htm

100) Apparition (DR) (F)
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/PhantomGirl.htm

[wiegeabo]

Oh what the heck... I'm in.

Dream Team League Season VII Application

Screen Name: JewishHobbit
Co-Owner Screen Name (if applicable):

Team Name: The Odd Alliance

Major Rules:
Teams consist of 5 characters; 2 Ubers, 1 Medium, 2 Regulars (think Superman & Thor, Aquaman & Vision, Batman & Spider-Man).
Characters can come from mainstream Marvel and DC universes including Vertigo and Wildstorm. No Amalgam.
Characters above a certain power level are considered too uber and are banned from use. The Silver Surfer and Green Lanterns are towards the top of legal characters.
You can carry a roster of 12 characters to build your team from.
Each week you will write a match of how your team will defeat your opponent's team.
Your teams are allowed 24 hours of prep-time on the battlefield before the fight where they get to see the pictures and names of their opponents. No using any outside resources during prep-time they wouldn't normally have access to.
You will have 2 days and 2 posts to write your prep-time (if any) and battle. Then you will have 1 day and 1 post to write a rebuttal to your opponent.
Then there will be 2 days for readers to vote for who they are most convinced to win.
Then there will be a 2 day break to rest and plan the next week's lineups.
The season will start with a draft, so you will need to create a draft list of potential characters for you team's roster.
You must be willing to commit to at least 12-14 weeks of play.
There will be at least two bye weeks without play to rest. Extra days for writing and voting may be granted for holidays.
Occasional theme weeks will occur throughout the season to spice things up (special battlegrounds, mind-swapping, regulars only, etc...)
In all matters, final decision rests solely with the Commissioner and are final.
Sign your screen name here to indicate you have read and agree to these, and all other, rules:

JEWISH FREAKING HOBBIT!!!!!

What can you bring to the game (two full sentences, minimum):I can bring Marvel expertise and DC Ignorance! I can bring my foot up W's hind quarters!

Do you have any ideas or suggestions (not required): None whatsoever!

Approved


Was that really so hard? :)

[wiegeabo]

There, signed!

Oh, and I'm too tired to read through the rules again but I may have overlooked it... is there still rules on how many Marvel and how many DC characters you have to have in your line up or play per week?

As of last season, no. You could have any number from any universe.

[SuperFerret]

I may be in over my head here.

[JewishHobbit]

Nah, it gets easier. And once you start playing you catch on quickly. This is literally the hardest part of the game, but it's fun :)


And JB... you've gotten more... British or something... since last we played together. Someone bite your balls or something?

[JewishHobbit]

Do we still need the one female?

[wiegeabo]

Do we still need the one female?

Nope.

[wiegeabo]

Also, to make those draft lists a little more important, I think I'm going to lock the first week of rosters. So whatever team you get after the draft is the one you have to use that first week. You can build you lineup from those 12 characters only.

But don't stress too much about building a draft list. You can probably come up with 20 or thirty characters you'd like on your team of the top of your head in five minutes. The hardest part is usually picking those last few (although you don't need to limit yourself to 72), and figuring out the order.

[SuperFerret]

I'm not even sure I can come up with 20 that I know well enough to make a decent argument in their favor.

[JewishHobbit]

Do you need the list written out a certain way or anything?

Also, I have some questions on character rankings, but I'll post those over in the proper thread. Just FYI. I guess we might as well keep things organized.

[Johnny Blaze]

Nah, it gets easier. And once you start playing you catch on quickly. This is literally the hardest part of the game, but it's fun :)


And JB... you've gotten more... British or something... since last we played together. Someone bite your balls or something?

You can kiss my ass with that British ****! I ain't no ****ing Limey. :cmad:

[wiegeabo]

Do you need the list written out a certain way or anything?

Also, I have some questions on character rankings, but I'll post those over in the proper thread. Just FYI. I guess we might as well keep things organized.

Just a list of names in a pm in in the order you want.

Unlike CoM, I do this draft manually since we don't have a definite character list.

[JewishHobbit]

Just a list of names in a pm in in the order you want.

Unlike CoM, I do this draft manually since we don't have a definite character list.

So do you give everyone a specific number of Ubers, Mediums, and Regulars or should we be mindful of that as we compose our list so we aren't stuck with tons of Ubers and then minimal of the rest, etc.?

[wiegeabo]

They way I've done it is just go down the list, giving you your next available character regardless of rank. That way you can sort of build your team with the number of each rank you want.

[wiegeabo]

I'm not even sure I can come up with 20 that I know well enough to make a decent argument in their favor.

Don't sweat it too much. A good chunk of my DC character knowledge, and most of my Marvel character knowledge, has come from this game. I couldn't believe how much I learned during the first season alone.

The list doesn't have to be all characters you know a ton about. Look at the X-Men books alone. There's gotta be a couple of dozen characters where just knowing about their powerset is enough to use them.

And you can use alternate versions of characters. Convinced someone is going to pick up Superman before you, then just pick up Kal-L instead. Or Superman Blue. Or Superman from Kingdom Come. Afraid someone's going to take Hal Jordan, then just include Kyle, or John, Alan, Guy, Kilowag,... Can't get Bruce Wayne Batman, how about Dick, or Batman 1 million, or even AzBats?

[Ahura Mazda]

I submitted my list.

[wiegeabo]

Excellent.

I would love to get all the lists in by this weekend, and start the first match next weekend. Might not be possible because work is currently kicking my ass and I haven't had time to sit down and whip my own list up. Maybe I'll get to it Friday during Stargate.

[JewishHobbit]

I'm working on mine. I have 43 characters and am trying to make my way up to around 75. I'm hoping to be finished with it by tomorrow, if not sooner.

[JewishHobbit]

Well, I got my 72 characters together. W, do you draft them in order of what's on the list or do you draft rankings (everyone's 1st Uber, everyone's 2nd Uber, everyone's 1st Medium, etc.)?

Just so I know if I should keep them grouped by rank or mix them based on how I hope to draft them.

[Blacklight]

Does the list have to be organized a certain way? 72 characters is hard enough and organinzing it might make it tougher

[Blacklight]

Also, is it too late to change my team's name? I have a new one I like better

[wiegeabo]

Also, is it too late to change my team's name? I have a new one I like better

You picky bastard! :cmad: :p Just put the team name you want on the draftlist you pm.

If you think sorting 72 is bad, you should try sorting 512 for Contest of Marvels!

[wiegeabo]

Well, I got my 72 characters together. W, do you draft them in order of what's on the list or do you draft rankings (everyone's 1st Uber, everyone's 2nd Uber, everyone's 1st Medium, etc.)?

Just so I know if I should keep them grouped by rank or mix them based on how I hope to draft them.

The draft works just like it did in CoM.

Whatever character is at the top of your list that hasn't been taken is the next character I give you. If order doesn't really matter to you after the first 10 or 20 or whatever, then just put them in any order.

There's lots of strategies you could try (like taking lower characters before someone else does just to screw them up, trying to make sure you get a good balance of rankings, ...). But really, don't worry about killing yourself over sorting. The draft is mostly to try and get a few characters you really want first, then some nice-to-haves later on. And they'll be the occasional character you add that you don't know much about, but turn out to be kick-ass once you start looking into them. Those are the real gems.

[Blacklight]

Question: If Alternate universe versions of characters are allowed, would movie versions count as alternate universe versions of a character? Especially if there were comic tie-ins to said movie?

[wiegeabo]

No. It has to be from one of DC's 52 Earth's, or a main Marvel universe.

Also, we have a 3 issue rule (I think it used to be 1 issue, but I'm making it 3). Basically, your character has to be well-defined through at least 3 issues. No using Validus with a GL ring who appeared in the background of a single panel.

[SuperFerret]

Two questions: Where can I find what each character is ranked as, and must the characters be from either Marvel or DC?

[Johnny Blaze]

Two questions: Where can I find what each character is ranked as, and must the characters be from either Marvel or DC?

My list on the last page has characters in random order ranked, though a few probably need to be changed around (something Wieg can do). Also, there's the DTL Rankings Thread that has dozens of characters separated ranked as well.

Really, with all the lists out there, it shouldn't be hard coming up with 72 characters. The hard part is putting them in the order you'd like them in.

[JewishHobbit]

No. It has to be from one of DC's 52 Earth's, or a main Marvel universe.

Also, we have a 3 issue rule (I think it used to be 1 issue, but I'm making it 3). Basically, your character has to be well-defined through at least 3 issues. No using Validus with a GL ring who appeared in the background of a single panel.

Dang... really? That eliminates two of my top spots!

So can I not use Hal Jordan when he has both the Green and the Blue ring recently. It was for 2 issues total, though only the last panel or so of the first issue. And the version of Superman I chose was from a oneshot but it's not hard to picture Clark Kent with Batman's upbringing and origin. The issue lays it out very clearly.

Are both of those out?

[JewishHobbit]

Also, just curious, but is Malibu allowed? They're connected to the Marvel Universe aren't they?

[wiegeabo]

Dang... really? That eliminates two of my top spots!

So can I not use Hal Jordan when he has both the Green and the Blue ring recently. It was for 2 issues total, though only the last panel or so of the first issue. And the version of Superman I chose was from a oneshot but it's not hard to picture Clark Kent with Batman's upbringing and origin. The issue lays it out very clearly.

Are both of those out?

Jordan, yeah. I've read both. And while he had the ring for a couple of issues, he really didn't have any control. There's no good idea what someone with both rings can and can't do, or what they're weak/strong against.

As for Speeding Bullets Superman (I'm guessing that the version? Kal-El raised as Bruce Wayne?), no under the 3 issue rule. I know this eliminates a ton of Elseworlds/What ifs, but even the well defined characters in those books can leave a lot in question. And were a source of endless arguments. Now, seeing as how we're seriously shortening the arguments this season, maybe thats not such a big deal.

[JewishHobbit]

Well that sucks. Delete my draft list then, I have to do some rethinking.

[wiegeabo]

Also, just curious, but is Malibu allowed? They're connected to the Marvel Universe aren't they?

Is Malibu a part of the Marvel universe?

Wildstorm and Vertigo are allowed because their part of DC's 52 universe multi-verse. Is Malibu inside the Marvel Multi-verse (does it have a number like 616?)

[JewishHobbit]

Hey wait a minute! Hal had the Blue ring from issue 38-42... that's 5 issues, so he still counts!

And whiel we don't know much of what the Blue Ring can do, the main benefit it has is that it keeps Hal's Green Ring charged at 100% at all times. That's the main thing I like about it. Besides that it also purges the corruption of the Red Ring, though I doubt that'll be much of an issue in the DTL. There was the deal when he finally figured out how to use it and took out Larfleeze, but that wasn't fleshed out at all and I don't think it'll ever come up for any reason in the DTL either.

So yeah, it's mostly just a 100% charged Hal is all the benefit is.

[JewishHobbit]

Is Malibu a part of the Marvel universe?

Wildstorm and Vertigo are allowed because their part of DC's 52 universe multi-verse. Is Malibu inside the Marvel Multi-verse (does it have a number like 616?)

Yes it is, and yes it does. Don't recall the number right now but it is a part of their mutliverse. Once Marvel bought them back in the 90's they were intermingled a bit (such as Juggernaut and Black Knight going to their universe, etc.) Eventually things were fixed, but they remain connected to the Marvel Universe, just unvisited due to some legal issues Quesada says exist, though Malibu people say don't.

[JewishHobbit]

Earth-93060 I just read on Wiki... so it's definate.

[wiegeabo]

Yes it is, and yes it does. Don't recall the number right now but it is a part of their mutliverse. Once Marvel bought them back in the 90's they were intermingled a bit (such as Juggernaut and Black Knight going to their universe, etc.) Eventually things were fixed, but they remain connected to the Marvel Universe, just unvisited due to some legal issues Quesada says exist, though Malibu people say don't.

If they're part of the MU, then they're ok.

[wiegeabo]

Hey wait a minute! Hal had the Blue ring from issue 38-42... that's 5 issues, so he still counts!

And whiel we don't know much of what the Blue Ring can do, the main benefit it has is that it keeps Hal's Green Ring charged at 100% at all times. That's the main thing I like about it. Besides that it also purges the corruption of the Red Ring, though I doubt that'll be much of an issue in the DTL. There was the deal when he finally figured out how to use it and took out Larfleeze, but that wasn't fleshed out at all and I don't think it'll ever come up for any reason in the DTL either.

So yeah, it's mostly just a 100% charged Hal is all the benefit is.

True, which isn't so bad. And if it was just, there probably wouldn't really be a problem.

But the Blue Ring wasn't meant for Hal. He spent all but the last of those issues struggling with the ring, and once he actually hoped for something with sincerity, he got to access the Blue's power in some undefined way. And once depleted, it left him. I just don't like that level of uncertainty.

[JewishHobbit]

Yeah, I can understand that.

I'm still upset about the Batman (Speeding Bullets) not counting though. I was excited about that one.

Oneshot was cool as can be! Not to mention it's Superman with a bit of a dark edge... and everyone seeing him woudl assume some variant of Batman, not a darker Superman... so there's all kinds of goodies that can be played with against other teams there.

Oh, well.

[wiegeabo]

Wait...so...so that's it?

No 400 posts arguing the point?

No *****ing and moaning and whining about not getting your way?

No swearing and demands of unfairness?


...this season's gonna rock!

[JewishHobbit]

We should get X, AS, and Guyver back. They're heads would explode!

[wiegeabo]

I was also thinking of two guys from last season. Aristotle and Khell. My god, those two could go at each other for days.

If those five were in a league together, battle threads would hit their 20,000 post limits, and the Hype would crash from the sheer anger of their words.

[JewishHobbit]

So is Ahura the only finished Draft List?

I think I have mine how I like it but I'm going to wait until tomrrow to turn it in in case I think of someone I'd like to add.

And with that, nighty night time.

[wiegeabo]

Ahura, JB, and BL.

[JewishHobbit]

I was also thinking of two guys from last season. Aristotle and Khell. My god, those two could go at each other for days.

If those five were in a league together, battle threads would hit their 20,000 post limits, and the Hype would crash from the sheer anger of their words.

I remember seeing them both around but I never got to read anything DTL by them.

Whatever happened to X and Guyver anyway? They were big deals back in season 1, and I think 2 as well. That's as far as I lasted though. I think Guyver may have dropped out before me, but X was pretty gung ho. When did he leave?

And whatever happened To XFanTim? He was awesome too.

[wiegeabo]

Mine definitely won't be until tomorrow night at the earliest. I've been putting 10 hour days in at work.

Sleep time for me as well.

[wiegeabo]

I remember seeing them both around but I never got to read anything DTL by them.

Whatever happened to X and Guyver anyway? They were big deals back in season 1, and I think 2 as well. That's as far as I lasted though. I think Guyver may have dropped out before me, but X was pretty gung ho. When did he leave?

And whatever happened To XFanTim? He was awesome too.

Tim had a kid. And he was working on his doctorate. I pm'd him, but he's probably too busy to Hype much anymore.

Guyver just left. I think he just got bored or didn't feel like playing anymore. I don't remember.

I kicked X out of the League.

[JewishHobbit]

Why'd X get the boot?

[Johnny Blaze]

I don't think it's that hard to guess. :o

[wiegeabo]

I don't think it's that hard to guess. :o

Yeah.

X had become very belligerent. Worse than ever. He was constantly arguing and bickering, calling people idiots, nitpicking every little detail to try and skirt rules, and just absolutely a dick to be around.

So I flat out told him, the way your acting is not good for the game. You're taking away all the fun, and I'm tired of it. You're a good player, but if this is the way you want to act, I don't want you around.

[Johnny Blaze]

What about alternate versions of characters from Graphic Novels? Do they only count as one book, or does their increased volume make them count as at least 3 books for the limit?

[JewishHobbit]

How big of a graphic novel are we talking? The Batman: Speeding Bullets one was a trade but it was small, like maybe Killing Joke size. I doubt that'd fly, but I can't really think of any Graphic Novels not based on individual comics that'd be much thicker.

[Johnny Blaze]

I'm just asking for future references, really. Though there are some Silver Surfer stories solely in GN form. And can't forget the awesome Doctor Strange & Doctor Doom: Triumph & Torment.

Average comic is, what...17-20 pages of actual story? So would a 55-60+ page GN be good to go?

[JewishHobbit]

I would think so, and an average comic is 22 pages before adds.

[Johnny Blaze]

So, Wieg...Graphic Novels? Yay, or nay?

[SuperFerret]

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to drop out of this game. I'm not going to have the amount of time necessary to participate. Best of luck.

[wiegeabo]

Well, with SF's impending murder, we're a player short again.

[JewishHobbit]

Okay, I've found and murdered SF. Now lets see if we can find another player. I'm wondering if Phaed would want to play. Or Colossal Spoons.

And for those of you who haven't seen it... due to lack of interest and Hellstormer not getting back with me (leaving only 5 players) I've closed the Contest of Marvels down. So if that taking up time was of any concern, it isn't anymore (unless my closing it is met with a lot of unexpected resistance). I've opened an invitation there for the DTL though... though I think Phaed and Powder are the only ones there that aren't signed up here. I think both would do great, but we'll see.

[wiegeabo]

Hey guys, we've got a spot open again and four games to play in the regular season. So now's a perfect time to get your feet wet if you've ever been curious.

If you don't know what the Dream Team League is, imagine a sort of combination between an RPG, fantasy football, and Heroclix.

Getting a little more interested? Then come by the Discussion thread in the DTL forum. The team you would be taking over is AnnoyingSilence. But you can customize the team however you want if you join up. Also, feel free to check out the battle threads for this season to get a feel for how everything works.