The Marvel/DC "3 vs. 3" Battle thread

[Blacklight]

Hi. With my interest in these types of threads regaining my interest, I'd like to start one of my own.

This thread was inspired by a thread I found on another forum, where rather than one on one or team fights, it's three heroes from each company, and you have to vote for the trio you think would win.

Now, i'll tally the votes and in the next one or two days, I'll announce the winner and post a new match.

Now, let's start this off with one that features some of both company's heavy hitters:

BATMAN, SUPERMAN and WONDER WOMAN

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/blacklight521/3705561509_04d8092c73_o.jpg?t=1255050696

vs.


CAPTAIN AMERICA, IRON MAN and THOR

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/blacklight521/avengers-roster-characters-iron-man.jpg?t=1255050460

[louiebling$]

Cap ,Iron Man and Thor..... Handsdown.

[Hound55]

Depends on prep-time.

The closer Bats gets to infinite prep time the closer Bats gets to invincibility...

[Harlekin]

Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman.

Wonder Woman stalls Thor.
Superman takes out Iron Man.
Batman stalemates with Captain America.
Superman and Wonder Woman double on Thor, beat him.
The three of them take out Captain America.

[Hound55]

You don't think that would be Thor matching up on Supes and Iron Man on (if Stark gets his way...) Wonder Woman..?

[Genesis 1.0]

Thor takes down Supes

Cap def Batman

Wonder Woman molests Irom Man

So I'd say Thor manages to mop up Wonder Woman barely with no help from Cap EXCEPT for the fact that Thor's had to expend way more energy beating Supes than Wonder Woman has beating Iron Man.

A more exhausted Thor gets dropped by Wonder Womn an she kills Cap at her leisure.


DC Big Three

[Majic Walrus]

I agree with Gen. The only difference being that Batman takes down Cap and then leaves the fight early so he can go save the world of Darkseid again.

DC's Trinity takes it.

[Genesis 1.0]

How many times we gotta go through this?

Cap beats Batman 9 times 10 if Bruce has no prep.

We've debated this, voted on it, and traded insults about it and you know what they all had in common?

You and Batman losing.


Aside from that, yeah we agree.

[Hound55]

Thor takes down Supes

Cap def Batman

Wonder Woman molests Irom Man

So I'd say Thor manages to mop up Wonder Woman barely with no help from Cap EXCEPT for the fact that Thor's had to expend way more energy beating Supes than Wonder Woman has beating Iron Man.

A more exhausted Thor gets dropped by Wonder Womn an she kills Cap at her leisure.


DC Big Three
My thought is similar...

The outcome of the three bouts are the same... except that 'molestation' implies that Stark wouldn't enjoy it.

Wonder Woman doubles on Thor as Thor's just beating Supes. Cap wings his mighty shield at Wonder Woman's head after beating Bats and then takes a leaf out of the Kevin Smith book by going and hiding behind a rock.

Wonder Woman has some difficulties with a tired Thor but the bout gets stalled whilst she tries to end it by finding out where exactly Cap is...

And somewhere out there Deadpool is watching the whole thing on TV and booing at his television before changing the channel to watch some cartoons.

[Franklin Richards]

It all depends on whether Tony Stark can get in those star-spangled hotpants.



Plus Cap is the leader. They win.


:cap: :cap: :cap:

[louiebling$]

I think Cap can take Bats

Thor can Take Supes( not easily though)

And stark could take out Wonder Woman(Thor Buster or Extremis) If all else fails Stark hits her with the satellites like Hulk or hits her with SpinTech (if it actually works on DC characters).

[Genesis 1.0]

Whoa, how the hell can he just bust out Hulkbuster Armor? Even so, WW's going to win 6 times in 10.

[Genesis 1.0]

Whoa, how the hell can he just bust out Hulkbuster Armor? Even so, WW's going to win 6 times in 10.

[Genesis 1.0]

Double Post FTL

[louiebling$]

That's if Stark Had prep time...or even without prep time... I'm sure stark would have the means of summoning his others armors.

[Johnny Blaze]

Interesting. Where's the setting for this fight? And does Batman have access to all his amazing tech gadgets?

[Genesis 1.0]

Nobody said anything about prep time.

Start giving Bat's prep and this match goes down the crapper.

[Johnny Blaze]

Never said anything about preptime. Just asked if he has access to his arsenal.

[Genesis 1.0]

He never comes around with his entire arsenal unless he was forewarned.

[Sparta*]

It wouldn't be easy, but I gotta side with the DC crew

[SuperFerret]

DC's Trinity

[Blacklight]

No prep-time for this match. And regarding Batman and Stark, Tony has his Extremis suit in this fight, and Bruce has in his utility belt what would normally be in there (i.e. Assorted Batarangs, grapnels, smoke bombs, etc.)

[Blacklight]

Current tally is 5-2 in favor of the DC Trinity

[Genesis 1.0]

Tony's still set-up for an anal invasion but it'll take more out of WW to drop him, whichworks in evening the eventual Thor // WW match BUT sh still wn't epend as much energy as Thor will dropping Supes.

[Johnny Blaze]

I have to go with the Avengers on this one. It'll be close, but they pull off the win.

[Wilderbeast]

Avengers

[Harlekin]

You don't think that would be Thor matching up on Supes and Iron Man on (if Stark gets his way...) Wonder Woman..?
No, DC's got a speed advantage. They decide the play.

[Genesis 1.0]

On paper, Thor has a speed advantage as well. Problem with that as well as the DC crew is that they rarely use it.

[Harlekin]

Thor and Iron Man are nowhere near Superman and Wonder Woman's level of speed.

[SuperFerret]

Thor theoretically can move as fast as "lightning", however he uses his speed FAR less frequently than Superman or Diana.

[Genesis 1.0]

Thor and Iron Man are nowhere near Superman and Wonder Woman's level of speed.

Even Hela, a fellow god, said Thor moves faster han can be comprehended, aster than the eye can follow. He blew by Quicksilver and he didn't even see him.

Thor has the speed to set the play as well as Superman or WW.

Save the DC 'we hae the only real speedsters' elitism at the door.:awesome:

[SuperFerret]

Thor doesn't use his speed as much as Clark or Diana do.

[Genesis 1.0]

Which isn't saying much seeing as neither of those 2 use them in battles 90% of the time. Thor doesn't use his 95% of the time.

Dosn't mean that ability evaporates.

[Harlekin]

More like 99% of the time. Thor's speed is a non-factor and that Quicksilver can't see him isn't really impressive. For most of his career, Quicksilver could barely out-run a Ferrari. Supes and Wondy can go just short of the speed of light and have demonstrated these speeds regularly.

Either way you do it, that's still two speedsters on the side of DC, as opposed to one - who is already out of their league - on Marvel's side.

[bkhedr]

Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman.

Wonder Woman stalls Thor.
Superman takes out Iron Man.
Batman stalemates with Captain America.
Superman and Wonder Woman double on Thor, beat him.
The three of them take out Captain America.

Despite my love of the Avengers I'd be inclined to agree with this...EXCEPT....

I don't think Wonder Woman can hold her own with Thor, let alone stall himif he cuts loose on her. I'm not taking anything away from Wonder Woman just giving Thor his due.

Course he might not cut loose on her seeing as how he rarely cuts loose on anyone, and he might undersestimate her on account of her being a woman.

But here's the catch, Superman isn't going to go all out on Iron Man. Heck Supes might just hold back enough that Tony (who never has any qualms about using the big guns) to stall Kal-el long enough for Harl's scenario to unfold in the opposite direction.

So my vote...after talking myself into it...the Avengers

[bkhedr]

Just to be clear I choose not to address the speed issue because the whole speed attribute is out of hand in DC to the point where it doesn't make sense to me anymore. (to be honest most everything in the DCU looks like a crowded mess to me)

In any case if Supes didn't use his speed when fighting Doomsday, why would he use it against Iron Man?

[Majic Walrus]

Despite my love of the Avengers I'd be inclined to agree with this...EXCEPT....

I don't think Wonder Woman can hold her own with Thor, let alone stall himif he cuts loose on her. I'm not taking anything away from Wonder Woman just giving Thor his due.

Course he might not cut loose on her seeing as how he rarely cuts loose on anyone, and he might undersestimate her on account of her being a woman.

But here's the catch, Superman isn't going to go all out on Iron Man. Heck Supes might just hold back enough that Tony (who never has any qualms about using the big guns) to stall Kal-el long enough for Harl's scenario to unfold in the opposite direction.

So my vote...after talking myself into it...the Avengers

It wont' matter though. The only one of the Avengers that can even tough Kal is Thor. You've already said WW is stalling Thor. It doesn't matter if Tony uses EVERYTHING in his arsenal. Unless his arsenal starting coming equipped with Kryptonite based weapons and magic wands... The Avengers are going to get ****ed.

[Hound55]

It wont' matter though. The only one of the Avengers that can even tough Kal is Thor. You've already said WW is stalling Thor. It doesn't matter if Tony uses EVERYTHING in his arsenal. Unless his arsenal starting coming equipped with Kryptonite based weapons and magic wands... The Avengers are going to get ****ed.
Thor's got a pretty f***ing big magic wand...

And I think you'll find he said WW ISN'T stalling Thor.

That said, I still think Supes, WW and Bats take it out as a three.

[Genesis 1.0]

Just to be clear I choose not to address the speed issue because the whole speed attribute is out of hand in DC to the point where it doesn't make sense to me anymore. (to be honest most everything in the DCU looks like a crowded mess to me)

In any case if Supes didn't use his speed when fighting Doomsday, why would he use it against Iron Man?

Exactly. Maybe it'll penetrate coming from someone else.

DC's speed rankings are a mixed bag of nonsensical crud and yet any random DC fan will proclaim that _____ is faster than about anyone in Marvel.

As to the D-Day example, that just highlights my point. Supes and WW are about as likely to use his speed as Thor. Period.

[Harlekin]

It's not about speed in battle. It's about speed in determining who gets to fight who. If Wonder Woman is on Thor and Superman on Iron Man before either opponent can even move, that gives the DCers the advantage.

[SuperFerret]

Yeah, if the Avengers are fighting a defensive battle from the get go, they're at a disadvantage.

Let's face it, these six are among the best of the best in their respective universes, so none of them are going to be push overs. This is probably going to be a drawn out battle.

[Genesis 1.0]

I agree SF and I'll take that cue to agree to disagree.

[Blacklight]

Well if my tallying is correct the final score is 6 (including Hound's vote) to 5 for Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. I'll post the next match up soon.

[Majic Walrus]

Thor's got a pretty f***ing big magic wand...

And I think you'll find he said WW ISN'T stalling Thor.

That said, I still think Supes, WW and Bats take it out as a three.

Oh. Then you're just wrong.

[Blacklight]

The next match, ladies and gentlemen:


SPIDER-MAN, SCARLET WITCH and INVISIBLE WOMAN

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vs.


GREEN LANTERN, AQUAMAN and ZATANNA

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[Johnny Blaze]

As much as I hate to vote for Hal, he, along with Aquaman and Zatanna, take it. :o

Maybe if it was cosmic Spidey, but a GL is just out of his league. Sue's the real wild card in this, but I don't think she'll be enough to tip the scales.

[SuperFerret]

This all comes down to whether or not the Marvel team can keep Zatanna quiet before she says something to end the fight, which is certainly possible, although it'd be extremely hard with Hal and Arthur running interference.

DC wins.

[Blacklight]

This all comes down to whether or not the Marvel team can keep Zatanna quiet before she says something to end the fight, which is certainly possible, although it'd be extremely hard with Hal and Arthur running interference.

DC wins.
I could picture Sue using her force field powers to make a bubble around Zatanna's head to cut off her oxygen until she passes out, or Wanda using her hex magic to make Zee's spells backfire. However, you're correct in Hal and Arthur most likely interfering before they can do that if Spidey can't keep them both busy long enough for Sue or Wanda to complete that task

[SuperFerret]

I could picture Sue using her force field powers to make a bubble around Zatanna's head to cut off her oxygen until she passes out, or Wanda using her hex magic to make Zee's spells backfire. However, you're correct in Hal and Arthur most likely interfering before they can do that if Spidey can't keep them both busy long enough for Sue or Wanda to complete that task

Zee would be able to talk in th bubble and I'm not sure how well Wanda's powers would work against her magic. Spidey actually has the best chance of stopping her, providing he can realize that she uses magic words to cast spells and can web up her mouth fast enough.

[Blacklight]

Zee would be able to talk in th bubble and I'm not sure how well Wanda's powers would work against her magic. Spidey actually has the best chance of stopping her, providing he can realize that she uses magic words to cast spells and can web up her mouth fast enough.
Quite true. I forgot Spidey could use his webbing. He is pretty smart, so maybe at some point he'll figure that out. He is pretty good at figuring out his opponent's weaknesses eventually

[SuperFerret]

Eventually doesn't help him if Zatanna wins before he figures it out. He's at a disadvantage because he doesn't know her powers, so she'll have to get at least one spell off before he could put it together. His Spider-sense would help him work it out faster, but it'd still come at the expense of letting Zee go first.

[Blacklight]

Eventually doesn't help him if Zatanna wins before he figures it out. He's at a disadvantage because he doesn't know her powers, so she'll have to get at least one spell off before he could put it together. His Spider-sense would help him work it out faster, but it'd still come at the expense of letting Zee go first.
I agree. I guess it would depend on how much Spidey can take and what kinda spells Zee casts

[louiebling$]

I See Spidey being able to take out Aquaman and Z
I see Sue bieng able to take out arthur and Z also
Scarlett could Also take out Z and Arthur

Hal is the problem....In the end I can see Hal Taking out all three alone.

Hal,Aquaman, and Z take the win.

[SuperFerret]

Aquaman would school Parker and Sue could take Hal.

[Blacklight]

Aquaman would school Parker and Sue could take Hal.
He would give Pete a good beating. Especially because in this fight he has the water hand

[SuperFerret]

To be honest, a Spider-Man/Aquaman team up would be a pretty fun read.

[Hound55]

I See Spidey being able to take out Aquaman and Z
I see Sue bieng able to take out arthur and Z also
Scarlett could Also take out Z and Arthur

Hal is the problem....In the end I can see Hal Taking out all three alone.

Hal,Aquaman, and Z take the win.
If nothing else Spidey and Arthur would be drawn out...

The only shot I see in this for the Marvel 3 is Spidey webs up Z face fairly early after realising her power set... Scarlet Witch makes herself useful and cold-*****/finishes off Z and then sets to double-teaming on Hal or Arthur.

Its really not the fairest fight because there's some different power sets there... as mentioned a GL is in a whole other league from Spidey and in his own element Arthur is too. On land it still probably tips towards Arthur.

The 2 ? marks are the Marvel girls... because Scarlet's immensely powerful but pretty unstable and Sue is a sleeper...

[Harlekin]

DC with remarkable ease. Besides Zee's magic, Aquaman is still stronger than any one of the opponents and also has telepathic powers.

[bkhedr]

Here's how I see it.

To me Wanda and Zatanna cancel each other out (more likely Wanda has the advantage by causing Z's spells to backfire)

Sue can more than hold her own against GL and would make short work of Arthur.

And Spidey? If need be he can keep Arthur busy alot longer than you would think.

He wouldn't beat him. But bear with me.

Wanda = Zatanna

Sue beats Hal

Arthur beats Pete

Sue beats Arthur

Sue + Wanda > Zatana

Marvel Wins

[SuperFerret]

I've never seen anything from Wanda outside of the JLA/Avengers crossover (which were under extenuating (sp?) circumstances) that remotely puts her on the same level as Zatanna with regards to power scope.

[bkhedr]

Wanda's so up and down that she ranges from completely useless (her early appearances) to able to rewrite reality on a whim (House of M).

I like to even her out to something akin to Zatanna's power level and based on the current Mighty Avengers line, I think that's about right.

[Hound55]

If Wanda can make Zatanna stutter or similar it gets interesting too...

Wanda's a ? because you've no idea who's turning up...

I'm still saying this DC 3 are a step above...

[SuperFerret]

So Wanda was responsible for House of M all on her own? I thought there was some outside influence or something.

[Johnny Blaze]

So Wanda was responsible for House of M all on her own? I thought there was some outside influence or something.

Don't. Don't mention that **** storyline that crapped all over years of continuity and back story for Wanda. :o :cmad:

[bkhedr]

JB's understandably upset (the only thing that sucked more than HOM was Avengers Disassembeled) but the fact remains, Wanda's power levels went off the scale back then, and if we want to get technical, we do not know what her current power levels are and the last time she displayed any power she was a top flight reality manipulator which, and here's the point, trumps Zatanna (in my opinion)

[bkhedr]

So Wanda was responsible for House of M all on her own? I thought there was some outside influence or something.

Yes

[Harlekin]

How's Sue trumping Arthur? Quick, painless psi-bolt from the King of Atlantis and Mrs. Richards is down.

[SuperFerret]

Yes

Lame.

[Genesis 1.0]

DC with remarkable ease. Besides Zee's magic, Aquaman is still stronger than any one of the opponents and also has telepathic powers.

^This.

I mean come on, the DC group is simply an order of magnitude above the Marvel 3, popularity aside.

DC Crew

This is like throwing naked pre-teen boys at Michael Jackson.








Too soon?

[Majic Walrus]

Good God this is a slaughter. DC wins.

[SuperFerret]

Too soon?

Not soon enough.

[bkhedr]

I have to say that I rethought my point of view (without the Marvel tinted glasses) and now see it more like this:

DC trumps Marvel as long as one of them is able to take out Wanda before she acts.

If they don't manage she turns them (Zatanna included) into leggo blocks and Marvel wins.

[Genesis 1.0]

Wanda's going to get beatdown either way.

[SuperFerret]

Gen, you see why I hate new power developments in a lot of characters? When "probability control" turns into "transmutation into legos", there's a problem.

[Johnny Blaze]

Gen, you see why I hate new power developments in a lot of characters? When "probability control" turns into "transmutation into legos", there's a problem.

I concur. It seems they simply changed her powers up and stomped on twenty plus years of continuity just because they felt like it. That = some ****ing, **** **** sucking, ********. :o

[Genesis 1.0]

Gen, you see why I hate new power developments in a lot of characters? When "probability control" turns into "transmutation into legos", there's a problem.

Yes and No, SF.

On the one hand, I see what you mean about radically different powersets that seem to contradict a character.

On the other, for big events or times whem things need to change in your company, I'd raher have a known, beloved character have a massive upgrade or change in personality rather than bringing in a long line of disposable villans to fill he void.

Am I more likely to give a damn about Wanda's powers evolving and her snapping or some reality warping midget from the planet Douche-11A bent on revenge for the Hulk eating his planet.:o

[SuperFerret]

How about another pre-existing character that actually can alter reality?

[Johnny Blaze]

Because then they couldn't **** up an already good character by completely reversing her personality, making her bat**** crazy, and all of sudden, hey, now she can warp reality too. :cmad: :o :csad:

[bkhedr]

See to me her power upgrade is somewhat reasonable. Let's not forget that Busiek turned her into the Avengers all purpose beat the big bad guy weapon long before Bendis every got a hold of her.

I mean nobody complained when she went from useless to able to hurt Ultron and Nefaria, and summon Wonderman from the dead. It all made sense, hadn't Wanda already demonstrated her untapped potential by literally willing two baby boys into existence?

Bendis took it a step further, and while I don't agree with him making her have a breakdown and go crazy, given all that's she been through in her life, its not that far fetched. Just like her power upgrade from Chaos magic wielder able to full blown reality manipulator is not that far fetched either.

Now as for the fight in question, I don't see how DC wins. Consider that all power reality manip Wanda is not just me picking to consider her to be at her most powerful, there's nothing random about it, her last confirmed display of power (the last time she used her powers as far as anybody knows, and therefore the powers we should assume she has right now) she rewrote reality despite the fact that Doc Strange and Xavier were actively trying to prevent her from doing so.

If Xavier and Strange combined couldn't control her why would Arthur fare any better? He's not the telepath Xavier is, or the magic wielder Strange is, let alone both working together.

Hell not only did she completely rewrite reality, she was able to resurrect people at will.

Like it or not Wanda is the biggest baddest mofo of the six involved in that battle.

With a thought Wanda rewrites reality so that her opponents never even existed. How do the three DC'ers beat that?

Marvel Wins

[Majic Walrus]

See to me her power upgrade is somewhat reasonable. Let's not forget that Busiek turned her into the Avengers all purpose beat the big bad guy weapon long before Bendis every got a hold of her.

I mean nobody complained when she went from useless to able to hurt Ultron and Nefaria, and summon Wonderman from the dead. It all made sense, hadn't Wanda already demonstrated her untapped potential by literally willing two baby boys into existence?

Bendis took it a step further, and while I don't agree with him making her have a breakdown and go crazy, given all that's she been through in her life, its not that far fetched. Just like her power upgrade from Chaos magic wielder able to full blown reality manipulator is not that far fetched either.

Now as for the fight in question, I don't see how DC wins. Consider that all power reality manip Wanda is not just me picking to consider her to be at her most powerful, there's nothing random about it, her last confirmed display of power (the last time she used her powers as far as anybody knows, and therefore the powers we should assume she has right now) she rewrote reality despite the fact that Doc Strange and Xavier were actively trying to prevent her from doing so.

If Xavier and Strange combined couldn't control her why would Arthur fare any better? He's not the telepath Xavier is, or the magic wielder Strange is, let alone both working together.

Hell not only did she completely rewrite reality, she was able to resurrect people at will.

Like it or not Wanda is the biggest baddest mofo of the six involved in that battle.

With a thought Wanda rewrites reality so that her opponents never even existed. How do the three DC'ers beat that?

Marvel Wins

Adnaw eid!

[bkhedr]

Wanda trumped Doc Strange and Xavier combined dude. No doubt she trumps Zatanna.

In any case she'll think Zatanna into oblivion before Zatanna can speak the words

[bkhedr]

On another note, the more I think about it, the more I think there's no reason Sue can't beat Hal straight up.

[Hound55]

To me Wanda was always going to eventually have a massive power upgrade to epic proportions, it was only a matter of time.

You can't have a relatively piss weak character left that way with so much potential high-end power (if you were to take her literal power into consideration) without eventually exploring the full extent of what could happen with that character...

Look at Dark Phoenix... Its a running theme, the sleeper...

That said, I'll still take the DC three, because I'm assuming that version of Scarlet Witch was not the one that has been considered (although if it hasn't its a blowout in the other direction, in terms of powersets, anyway...)

[Blacklight]

If my counting is correct, the final tally is 7-1 for DC!


Next match up later today

[SpiderByte]

I nominate Deadpool for the Marvel side!

[Blacklight]

Next match:


SOLOMON GRUNDY, FIRESTORM (Rusch) and DEATHSTROKE

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/blacklight521/sgrndy-cv1.jpg?t=1255555914http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/blacklight521/79874-101033-firestorm.jpg?t=1255555932http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/blacklight521/deathstroke-ladronn_1024.jpg?t=1255555951


vs.


HULK, HUMAN TORCH and DEADPOOL

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[Genesis 1.0]

SF, the other 2 guys went even further in explaining my view so I don't see a need to continue in that thread.

Current Match:

Much more even than the last.

HUlk def. Grundy

Firestorm def. Torch

Deathstroke & Deadpool effectively cancel each oher out for the duration of any 1 battle.

Hulk ges badly burned, regenerates, gets more pissed, Firestorm goes SPLAT.

Marvel

[Majic Walrus]

Hulk kills everyone.

Marvel wins.

[Franklin Richards]

Johnny teaches them the ol' switcheroo.


Hulk takes out Firestorm.
Deadpool takes out Grundy.
Torch takes out Deathstroke.


or

Hulk takes out Deathstroke
Deadpool takes out Firestorm
Torch takes out Grundy


:ff: :ff: :ff:

[Franklin Richards]

Johnny teaches them the ol' switcheroo.


Hulk takes out Firestorm.
Deadpool takes out Grundy.
Torch takes out Deathstroke.


or

Hulk takes out Deathstroke
Deadpool takes out Firestorm
Torch takes out Grundy


:ff: :ff: :ff:

[SuperFerret]

Firestorm has the potential to end everyone in this match easily, he just won't realize it. The Hulk and Grundy are as much of a liability to their own teams as they are threats to their opponents, hell, this match up looks like a six man free-for-all. It's a sad day when the most responsible sane individual in the match is Johnny Storm. I honestly can't say who wins.

Gen, let's just drop it and agree to never use Wanda in any match ever again, k?

[Johnny Blaze]

Yeah, if this was the Rusch/Stein Firestorm, or Ronnie Raymond, then I'd give it to them. He'd then have the experience and know-how to use his awesome powers effectively and it'd get really ruff for team Marvel.

[SuperFerret]

Firestorm still can't affect living tissue, right?

[Johnny Blaze]

Don't know, been a few years since I stopped buying new comics. Even still, he could affect **** inside one's body, like gases, food, etc.

[SuperFerret]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. What good is it being 70% water if it all spontaneously turns into chlorine or some junk?

[Johnny Blaze]

Don't think he'd be that ruthless, but there's plenty of other **** he can transmute it to to put Deadpool or Torch out of the match. Hulk, I don't think he'd be able to do too much to, other than piss him off.

Which is why I vote for the Marvel boys as I think Hulk will be the last one standing after he beats the **** out of the DC team, and his two teammates.

[SuperFerret]

I know he's not that ruthless, but it's just stuff I'm thinking up that he could feasibly accomplish.

[bkhedr]

Marvel. Hulk's presence is the deciding factor.

[PemLam]

Marvel...solely because of the Hulk (who I don't care for).

[SpiderByte]

Deadpool's almost invincible. He'll just shoot at whatever gets in his way.

While eating a taco.

BLINDFOLDED.


Hulk will just beat the hell out of...well....probably Deadpool. And Solomon.

Firestorm could take out Johnny, but Johnny could probably fry Deathstroke.

Marvel for me.

[Franklin Richards]

Everybody downplays the Torch when in fact he can end this match in 1 second.


Nova Flame for the win.


:ff: :ff: :ff:

[SpiderByte]

He'd set the air on fire....and that would kill everyone on the planet....including him.

[Franklin Richards]

I'm sorry. I didn't read the part where they were on Earth.



And he's let loose with Nova Flames on the planet before without killing everyone.


:ff: :ff: :ff:

[SpiderByte]

True point.

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah. But in these close quarters, he's going to bake Hulk AND Deadpool, both of which will heal insanely quick and have no problem murdering Johnny for his troubles.

No Nova Flame.

SF: Agreed to drop it, can't say I'll never use her in a bout, but I'll make it as rare as an Ambush Bug match.

[SuperFerret]

Wanda vs. Ambush Bug FTW!

Also, Franky, I gave Johnny props, kinda.

[Harlekin]

Nova flame would be pretty useless with Firestorm around.

Torch being there still cinches it though. Firestorm hasn't got the experience to throw down with him.

[Genesis 1.0]

I'd say Hulk clinches it but to each his own.

[Harlekin]

Firestorm could potentially take him out.

[Genesis 1.0]

So Firestorm's going to succeed where mot of the MU has failed?

[SuperFerret]

Yes. Firestorm has the power to take out the Hulk, and so do a ton of people in the Marvel Universe. They just tend to fight him in his own book, so he really can't lose.

[Genesis 1.0]

I'm not willing to go through and break this dow on a point by point basis as I've done too often here lately.

Let's just say I strongly disagree with the entirety of that statement.

[SuperFerret]

If it has anything to do with the limitlessness of Hulk's power, you're wrong. :awesome:

But I'm not gonna push the subject.

[Genesis 1.0]

If it has anything to do with Firestorm's supposed mastery of ability, you're wrong.:awesome:

I'll push as well, we fight so much I don't know if this marriage is going to work.:csad:

[Hound55]

Hulk has the capacity to comfortably beat the ass of pretty much all of the others...

The question mark I have there is Deathstoke's speed and agility... I think he could stay out of Hulk's way, but I don't think there's anything he could really do to him more than piss Hulk off because he'd have to settle for quick-strikes with the blade rather than any real damaging blows with the blade since he'd have to be too concerned that Hulk would catch him... because if he does...

In the immortal words of Bill Paxton... Game over, man. Game over...

[Hound55]

Hulk would finish Grundy real quick though and double team... that would be team Marvel's biggest issue... Hulk mixing it up and guys getting in each other's way causing everyone to have to take on Hulk for self-preservation...

This would fast turn from Marvel 3 vs DC 3 to Hulk vs scurrying ants trying to not be eaten by Hulk...

[Genesis 1.0]

Hulk has the capacity to comfortably beat the ass of pretty much all of the others...

The question mark I have there is Deathstoke's speed and agility... I think he could stay out of Hulk's way, but I don't think there's anything he could really do to him more than piss Hulk off because he'd have to settle for quick-strikes with the blade rather than any real damaging blows with the blade since he'd have to be too concerned that Hulk would catch him... because if he does...

In the immortal words of Bill Paxton... Game over, man. Game over...

Thank you. Thank you.:o

[SuperFerret]

Yes, in this match, the Hulk is the deciding factor, but that's only because of this Firestorm's relative inexperience. He certainly has the power to take out the Hulk, he just doesn't have the familiarity with his powers to do so. The kid has potential though.

[Johnny Blaze]

If it has anything to do with Firestorm's supposed mastery of ability, you're wrong.:awesome:

Gen, man, I ain't trying to be a dick, but I have no clue what the **** you're trying to mean with "mastery of ability." :huh:

Yes, in this match, the Hulk is the deciding factor, but that's only because of this Firestorm's relative inexperience. He certainly has the power to take out the Hulk, he just doesn't have the familiarity with his powers to do so. The kid has potential though.

I still think it's a toss up. Ronnie Raymond or the Rusch/Stein Firestorm could, potentially, take the Hulk out of the fight. But it all depends if they'd be able to do something before the Hulk get's his hands on him. Because once that happens, it's game over. :o

[Genesis 1.0]

Mastery of his relatively unique and expansive abilities.

[Johnny Blaze]

Right on. This Firestorm doesn't have experience in using his many, uber-level powers, so he'd be at a disadvantage far as I see.

[Hound55]

The only one who could take Hulk out is Johnny Storm and I'm pretty sure he's not suicidal enough to try going Nova... Firestorm doesn't know what he's doing... Grundy's a poor man's Hulk so to me it all comes down to Deathstroke, and again I don't know if he's going to be able to do enough to hurt Hulk without risking getting caught.

The only questionmark for Marvel is if they get in each other's way once double-teaming occurs after Hulk beats Grundy's ass...

[Johnny Blaze]

All Slade would do is piss the Hulk off. Eventually he would be caught, and it's a done deal for Deathstroke.
Firestorm has the power set to take down everyone in this fight, DC side included. But this Firestorm doesn't have the know-how or experience as the other versions of the character.
Personally, I think that inexperience would be the deciding factor for team Marvel as the Hulk would take Firestorm down before he could anything more than piss Jolly Green off.

[Genesis 1.0]

As I said before.

As to Deathstroe, do you seriously think he could take down Hulk? Not a chance in hell.

[Blacklight]

Well if my counting is correct, it seems like it's 9-0 for MARVEL
Talk about landslides

Next match up soon.

[Blacklight]

Well if my counting is correct, it seems like it's 9-0 for MARVEL
Talk about landslides

Next match up soon.

[SpiderByte]

Woot! Landslide win!

[Blacklight]

Next match is gonna be a theme match. I call it "The Replacements":


BATMAN (Grayson), BLUE BEETLE (Reyes) and THE ATOM (Choi)

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/blacklight521/743299-dc_reveals_lantern_batman_so.jpg?t=1255999191http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/blacklight521/255561-67158-blue-beetle.jpg?t=1255999533http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/blacklight521/295896-27160-atom.jpg?t=1255999613


vs.


CAPTAIN AMERICA (Barnes), NIGHT THRASHER (Donyell) and THE WASP (Hank)

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/blacklight521/543949-capa045_cov.jpg?t=1255999750http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/blacklight521/226479-164163-night-thrasher.jpg?t=1255999773http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/blacklight521/657162-ma8.jpg?t=1256000213

[SpiderByte]

I can see Night Thrasher winning against Grayson (barely, but still). Barnes.....something tells me that Cap could beat Atom, and BB could beat Wasp.

Overall, Marvel

[Johnny Blaze]

Not familiar with the new Night Thrasher, Beetle, or Atom. Are their power sets the same as their predecessors?

And when the **** did Hank become the Wasp? :huh:

[Blacklight]

Not familiar with the new Night Thrasher, Beetle, or Atom. Are their power sets the same as their predecessors?

And when the **** did Hank become the Wasp? :huh:
All except Beetle. He now has Dan and Ted's Scarab that is infused into his spine and summons a suit of alien powered armor that has it's own AI as well as a variety of tools, gadgets and attacks. Think Iron Man but alien-oriented.

Hank became the Wasp when Janet died during Secret Invasion, and he felt responsible for her death.

[Hound55]

I've only read issue one of the new Atom...

How far has that series gone... because if there's not more than issue 1 then he has next to no experience and it spent the majority of the ish establishing character outside of the Atom persona...

[SuperFerret]

DC. Dick's got more experience than everyone but Bucky, and the Beetle has the most raw power. The Atom is just icing on the cake.

I also want to point out how funny I find it that everyone but Hank is referred to by their last names.

[louiebling$]

Marvel... but it won't be an easy win.

[Blacklight]

DC. Dick's got more experience than everyone but Bucky, and the Beetle has the most raw power. The Atom is just icing on the cake.

I also want to point out how funny I find it that everyone but Hank is referred to by their last names.
Actually, both Night Thrasher and Hank are referred to by their first names as they both share the same last names as their predecessors (Dwayne and Donyell Taylor; Hank and Janet Pym)

[Majic Walrus]

This is an easy win for DC.

[Hound55]

This is an easy win for DC.
How?

Wasp has more range than I've seen from this new Atom... I'd assume Bucky would be smart enough to match himself up against Blue Beetle where his experience would wreak havoc and trust Night Thrasher to hold off Dick Grayson at least long enough to get some help from the double team that will come from their first match-up win...

[Majic Walrus]

How?

Wasp has more range than I've seen from this new Atom... I'd assume Bucky would be smart enough to match himself up against Blue Beetle where his experience would wreak havoc and trust Night Thrasher to hold off Dick Grayson at least long enough to get some help from the double team that will come from their first match-up win...

Wasp does have more range than this new Atom, but Atom has more power. Bucky is in no way smart enough to handle a completely alien technology like BB has. And I don't think this new Night Thrasher could hold Dick off for long at all.

The way I see it:

Dick makes short work of the Thrasher.
Dick and Atom take out the Wasp.
BB crushes Bucky.

[SuperFerret]

Actually, both Night Thrasher and Hank are referred to by their first names as they both share the same last names as their predecessors (Dwayne and Donyell Taylor; Hank and Janet Pym)

I did not know that, but then again I never cared about the first Night Thrasher, let alone his replacement.

[Franklin Richards]

Pym wins this for Marvel.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[SuperFerret]

But there are no women for him to beat.

[louiebling$]

How?

Wasp has more range than I've seen from this new Atom... I'd assume Bucky would be smart enough to match himself up against Blue Beetle where his experience would wreak havoc and trust Night Thrasher to hold off Dick Grayson at least long enough to get some help from the double team that will come from their first match-up win...
This

[Johnny Blaze]

The DC side takes it for me. In the end, I think they've got too much going for them. Dick's experience will be the deciding factor, and the reason Marvel get's the hard shaft in a tough fight. :o

[Franklin Richards]

Dick was a side-kick when Pym was defeating Ultron.


Pym has more experience.



:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Johnny Blaze]

They were both rookie heroes about the same time. Only difference is Dick was a kid learning from one of the best tacticians in comics. Pym's never been a solid battlefield leader, where as Grayson has been and is.
Hell, Hank's not even the best tactician on his team. I'd give that to the Bucky, or the Winter Soldier, or whatever the **** you want to call him now.

Batman's more than capable of taking down Cap or Night Thrasher. Pym can't match the Atom in the shrinking department, unless he can suddenly shrink to sub-atomic size, and the Beetle gives them the firepower advantage.
With Dick's leadership ability, the Atom able to, quite literally, get inside their opponent's heads, and the Beetle's power advantage, I don't see this being a happy ending for team Marvel.

[Hound55]

Wasp does have more range than this new Atom, but Atom has more power.
I was meaning range of power...

Pym can do a lot more than Atom.

And what the hell has Choi ever shown..? That's a serious question. I want to know how Atom has more power.

[Sparta*]

DC Crew

[mikethought]

I'm new here, so be kind to the first time poster.

Doesn't Deathstroke use like 90% of his brain? How hard can it possibly be to outthink this incarnation of the Hulk? If this were the Peter David smart Hulk, maybe.

Firestorm could easily defeat Johnny Storm. :yay:


Deadpool could take Grundy though. Still, D.C. wins to me.

[SpiderByte]

^Late. That one already ended.

[SuperFerret]

I'm new here, so be kind to the first time poster.

Doesn't Deathstroke use like 90% of his brain? How hard can it possibly be to outthink this incarnation of the Hulk? If this were the Peter David smart Hulk, maybe.

Firestorm could easily defeat Johnny Storm. :yay:


Deadpool could take Grundy though. Still, D.C. wins to me.

They still go with that? Wow. :whatever:

[Genesis 1.0]

How?

Wasp has more range than I've seen from this new Atom... I'd assume Bucky would be smart enough to match himself up against Blue Beetle where his experience would wreak havoc and trust Night Thrasher to hold off Dick Grayson at least long enough to get some help from the double team that will come from their first match-up win...

This.

Marvel Trio

[SpiderByte]

This is gonna be a close one...

[Johnny Blaze]

Heh, reading over the arguments, a lot of you people would be perfect for the DTL. It's pretty much team battle threads, but set up sort of like a fantasy sports league.
Quite a few of you definitely have the balls and brains needed to compete in the League. :woot:

[SuperFerret]

Plug plug. :awesome:

[Majic Walrus]

I was meaning range of power...

Pym can do a lot more than Atom.

And what the hell has Choi ever shown..? That's a serious question. I want to know how Atom has more power.

Choi hasn't necessarily shown a great deal of power but that doesn't mean his power his limited. The stories that have him in them are limited. I understand that he has all of the same powers that Ray had and this Atom is an expert in nanotechnology which indicates that he has a good deal more science knowledge than all of the other players in this match.

[Johnny Blaze]

Eh, I don't know about that last part. Pym is just a notch or two below Reed Richards in terms of scientific genius.

[SuperFerret]

I'd say a more than one or two notches, but Hank's probably the smartest guy in this fight.

[PemLam]

Marvel

[SpiderByte]

Word to the wise, Pem. Don't use one-word posts too much, it's really close to spamming. Just a head's up.

Still reaallly, close.

[Harlekin]

DC. For one thing, they'd have Grayson as leader. The Marvel team is a definite group of solo acts.

Of course, DC also has more firepower.

[SpiderByte]

Keep in mind that Grayson isn't the super-genius detective Bruce is.

[Johnny Blaze]

Doesn't need to be. He's not trying to solve some mystery, he's leading his two teammates into battle. And that is something Richie does very well.

[Genesis 1.0]

That he definitely does and better than anyone else on the Marvel spectrum, but individual acts of aggression from different directions can be just as effective as one unit moving in one direction.

Decentralization is key in battles like this.

[Johnny Blaze]

They can be, but that's a rare occurrence when going up a better led, more organized force with a fire power advantage.

[Majic Walrus]

I'd say a more than one or two notches, but Hank's probably the smartest guy in this fight.

I bet he spends all the fight beating up his wife.

[SpiderByte]

I'd like to see Hawkeye and Green Arrow for the next one.

[Johnny Blaze]

How about a Rogues gallery battle? Like the Flash's villains against Spider-Man's, Hulk's versus Superman's, Avenger's taking on the JLA's bad guys, etc?

[SuperFerret]

I'd like to see battles that don't include cross-universe parallels.

[Majic Walrus]

I'd like to see some more evenly matched fights.

[Hound55]

Yes, but for you that would mean Thor/Thanos/Hulk vs Captain Cold/Mad Hatter/Zsasz...

And even then you'd probably say that it takes Batman to beat MH and Zsasz and Bats > Hulk+Thor+Thanos...

[louiebling$]

Yes, but for you that would mean Thor/Thanos/Hulk vs Captain Cold/Mad Hatter/Zsasz...

And even then you'd probably say that it takes Batman to beat MH and Zsasz and Bats > Hulk+Thor+Thanos...
:lmao:

[Genesis 1.0]

Sad but true.

[Majic Walrus]

No seriously... Come on "Night Thrasher" is barely a player in this last matchup. Before that Hulk was supposed to have been paired up with Solomon Grundy?

[SpiderByte]

I'll just make a new lineup till the old host returns.

Green Arrow
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/0/0d/Green_arrow.jpg

Cyborg
http://headlesschicken.ca/cyborgblog/uploaded_images/Cyborg-gj-761855.jpg
Booster Gold
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/3/3c/Booster_Gold_001.jpg

VS

Hawkeye
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/9/90/Hawkeye_005cov.jpg

War Machine
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/5/5a/War_Machine_Vol_2_8_Textless.jpg


Jubilee
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/6/6b/Jubilation_Lee_%28Earth-1298%29.jpg

Sorry about the gigantic War Machine. It was the best one I could find.

[SuperFerret]

Usually permission is needed for stuff like that.

[Sparta*]

Green Arrow/Cyborg/Booster Gold

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah, I'd put foot to ass if anyone tried that with mine.

I any case, is Jubilee actually supposed to match Booster?

Really?

[SuperFerret]

Booster Gold is so much better than Jubilee is every way that it's not even a contest, but still, this is a non-match to me until I get confirmation.

[SpiderByte]

Ya. I know Jubillee is NOTHING compared to Booster, but I needed SOMEONE to lose on the Marvel side. I mean, you got freakin WAR MACHINE over there.

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah, he'll murder Stone AND Arrow, but epic fail to incude Jubilee.

Why not Polaris or Sue Storm?

[SuperFerret]

Booster Gold >>>>>>> War Machine

[Genesis 1.0]

Which is why I never mentioned Booster.

[SuperFerret]

Just saying. He's counted out way too much, but despite his personality, Booster's a capable guy. Plus, didn't he get an upgrade recently?

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah but it's one you'd like, his upgrade is streamlined and is basically a slight build on his current ability.

In any case, Booster's attitude tends to screw him 8 times in 10, however he's grown up alot lately.

[SuperFerret]

Yeah but it's one you'd like, his upgrade is streamlined and is basically a slight build on his current ability.

In any case, Booster's attitude tends to screw him 8 times in 10, however he's grown up alot lately.

:o

That, and he's not a filthy mutie.

[Genesis 1.0]

Heh, I actually laughed my ass off for this. Reminded me of the Friends of Humanity guys on the X-men cartoon.

[SuperFerret]

Hey, if I can't be racist towards a fictional minority, then I give up.

[PemLam]

DC Trio

[Blacklight]

I'll allow the match-up, just because I actually want to vote this time. Although next time, Spider-Byte (or anyone else who has a match in mind), a PM to me with the match-up you had in mind would be more appreciated rather than just posting it yourself.



That said, I agree with SuperFerret that Booster is very capable of handling himself moreso than he could in the past. So my vote is for the DC Team.

[SuperFerret]

Team Booster Gold wins this.

[Majic Walrus]

Yeah. DC wins this way around.

[SuperFerret]

BIAS!!! :cmad:

[Hound55]

Hasn't Green Arrow appeared in Marvel/DC crossovers..?

Wouldn't this battle be far more pure DC if we were to swap Green Arrow with, say, Majic Walrus..?

[SpiderByte]

Him appearing in a crossover doesn't make him a pure-DC character?

[SpiderByte]

Him appearing in a crossover doesn't make him a pure-DC character?

[Hound55]

I thought it was pretty clear that it was just a conveyance to get to the gratuitous "Majic Walrus is a biased DC fan-boy" joke...

[Genesis 1.0]

It was and it was an inside joke.

Pay no mind to that outsider.

[Majic Walrus]

You know if there were a fight of Superman, Wonder Woman, and Captain Marvel against Shadowcat, The Blob, and a Legless Sentinel you'd still call me bias if I voted DC.

[Genesis 1.0]

lol @ legless Sentinel

And no, we call you biased based on your own admissons and your voting record.

It's a joke, so take it like a man and lie face down.

[louiebling$]

lol @ legless Sentinel

And no, we call you biased based on your own admissons and your voting record.

It's a joke, so take it like a man and lie face down.
:lmao:

[Wolfsbane!]

Yeah I would agree that DC would win in this battle, unless War Machine pulled more of the weight

[Majic Walrus]

lol @ legless Sentinel

And no, we call you biased based on your own admissons and your voting record.

It's a joke, so take it like a man and lie face down.

:cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad:

:fhm::awesome:

[Genesis 1.0]

Point. Set. Match.

Couldn't have done it without ya.

[SuperFerret]

Yeah I would agree that DC would win in this battle, unless War Machine pulled more of the weight

Even then, War Machine wouldn't be able to take both Cyborg and Booster.

[Genesis 1.0]

He'd drop Stone and he could drop Booster at the cost of his life probably, but not both.

[Wolfsbane!]

Even then, War Machine wouldn't be able to take both Cyborg and Booster.
Yeah but that would imply that he would be fighting them both alone. I don't think Hawkeye and Jubilee would both be fighting Green Arrow at the same time. If that was the case, they could easily take him out and later help War Machine (provided he is still alive lol)

[Blacklight]

I'm going to give this match one more day for voting before posting the next one.

Also, after tallying the votes of the last match, it seems that DC had he better replacements as they won the fight against Marvel's current mantle holders.

[Genesis 1.0]

They should considering the power trench.

[SpiderByte]

This doesnt count as a vote, btw.

I personally think Hawkeye and Green Arrow are a stalemate, considering that they both have great reflexes and aim (though if Jubilee helped, Hawkeye might score a hit or two). War Machine could beat Stone, but Booster could beat Hawkeye and Jubilee.

[Wilderbeast]

DC wins a close one

[GlasgowBat]

I'd say that GA takes hawkeye, and with booster coasting jubilee, war machine won't stand a chance against the combined might of all three.

although i'm not convinced he would take booster or cyborg in all honesty.

DC three

[Blacklight]

It seems that War Machine, Hawkeye and the out-of-left-field pick Jubilee couldn't quite match the power of the DC Team.


Next match:


LIGHTNING LAD, COSMIC BOY and SATURN GIRL

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/blacklight521/916329-fclwcv1a.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/blacklight521/466672-fclw_cv3_solicit.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/blacklight521/467494-staurn_girl.jpg


VS.


HULKLING, WICCAN and SPEED

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/blacklight521/237920-121585-hulkling.jpg?t=1258072666http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/blacklight521/279157-65907-wiccan.jpg?t=1258072647

[Genesis 1.0]

I don't get it. Why is it that all these matches overmatch in favor of DC?

Saturn Girl could mind-screw most of the team, Lightning Lad would knock out Changeling and Speed, and Cosmic Boy is a winner against any of them except Wiccan.

For that matter, Wiccan's the only real contender here but his entire squad are basically rookies in comparison with their opponents.

DC e-Z

[SuperFerret]

Kids today (and apparently kids tomorrow, regarding the Legion) just have the crappiest taste in costumes, and aren't the Young Avengers in this match supposed to be gay? That just makes it that much worse.

[GlasgowBat]

DC team just have much more power, ability, intelligence and experience(when combined, at least, becuase wiccan is quite powerful)

[Sparta*]

DC Crew

[Teth-Adam]

Lightning lad takes speed out easy, saturn girl would be able to keep wiccan out of the fight while cosmic boy gets rid of hulkling, or mabye it would go a little differantly, but any way you look at it, DC wins.

[louiebling$]

Yea this is easily a easy win for DC

[Chunin]

This match is so one sided, the thread starter must be another DC zombie.

DC

[Johnny Blaze]

You all need to lay the **** off of Blacklight. I was the one who suggested this matchup pitting the Legion founders against some of the Young Avengers. In hindsight, yeah, it may not have been an even match, the Legion against the X-Men or possibly a few of the Avengers probably would've been better.
But, to say he's a DC zombie is just talking out your ass.

[SpiderByte]

I think Speed could get to Saturn Girl fast enough to punch her out. Hulkling would get beat by Cosmic Boy, but Wiccan could probably beat Lightning Lad.

Marvel, but barely.

[Genesis 1.0]

Hey JB, I just pointed out that the slant tends to lie in one direction, kinda like Vintage Walrus who has now mysteriously reformed or been replaced by an alien imposter.

In any case, never called him a DC Zombie.

[Johnny Blaze]

Hey JB, I just pointed out that the slant tends to lie in one direction, kinda like Vintage Walrus who has now mysteriously reformed or been replaced by an alien imposter.

In any case, never called him a DC Zombie.

I know. I was mainly replying to Chunin. Point being, if anybody has a problem with this one, whine at me as it's my fault. Just sticking up for a friend is all.

[Genesis 1.0]

So you want to stand up take his abuse?

In the words of Deebo from Friday:

"You want some of this old man? I beat him down and I'll beat you down too!"

[Johnny Blaze]

Yeah, but unlike Red's father, I don't run. I get stab happy. :yay:

[Genesis 1.0]

Heh, and I get brick happy.

You just got knocked the____ out!

[Majic Walrus]

Saturn Girl wins. And the rest of the DC team probably helps out and laughs a lot.

[SpiderByte]

I still think Speed could clock her before she got a chance. She's no Scarlet Witch, her powers aren't immediate, it takes a second or two. Speed could easily cover the distance in that time.

[louiebling$]

Problem with that is Speed knows nothing about SG's Powers so he wouldn't know to take her out 1st.

[Harlekin]

Legionnaires.

[SpiderByte]

Problem with that is Speed knows nothing about SG's Powers so he wouldn't know to take her out 1st.

Yes, but there's also no reason he'd try to take out Cosmic Boy or Lightning Lad first either.

It's just as likely that he'd pick her as he would the other three.

[SuperFerret]

Actually I'd say that the flashiness of Lightning Lad's powers would make him a more obvious target.

[louiebling$]

Yea I agree

[Genesis 1.0]

If by 'flashy' you mean 'deadly' then I'd say Speed is smart enough to avoid him, leaving him for Wiccan or Changeling.

[GlasgowBat]

doubt speed could avoid him......he's quick, but, well, the clue is in lightning lad's name really......

[Genesis 1.0]

Well I doubt he couldn't, running away is his life's work. He's screwed either way which is why I voted DC.

[PemLam]

DC team

[GlasgowBat]

Well I doubt he couldn't, running away is his life's work. He's screwed either way which is why I voted DC.

he's not faster than lightning. flash he aint. he won't avoid a blast from lightning lad.

but we agree, DC team win this one. hope we can get more balance in the next match

[Chunin]

Cosmic Boy wins it

DC