New costume?

[Silver Knight]

Who other then me thinks Spidey should get a new costume for SM4? I think its time for a revamp.

Discuss.

[SPIDER-ADDA]

I agree, but I doubt it will happen. I think they will stick to what has worked for the franchise so far. Hollywood doesn't like to mess with a successful formula.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Tbh, I think the costume is perfect. I've really never had a problem with it.

[Silver Knight]

Its good but we need a change. Its been the same since 01 when SM1 was being filmed. At least update it abit.

[Beanjuice]

Maybe a darker blue and new spiderlogo.

[bullets]

I'd prefer it not to change.

[spider-neil]

I think the eyes should be rounder and less angular like in the comics, also the webs should be black rather than gray, other than that the costume is fine.

[Nathan]

He'll get minor tweaks like he always has, but he won't look much different from SM3. Personally, I would like if he'd look more menacing. I always liked how Dell'otto draws him.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3921/dellottospidey202.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/i/dellottospidey202.jpg/)

[VenomVsSpidey]

no change.

/thread

[Silver Knight]

Yes to change.

[Immortalfire]

Hell no to change. There's not a reason on earth to alter superhero movies' best costume.

I said it, and that's it. :yay:

[Silver Knight]

Its stale now. It needs some sort of revamp.

[Immortalfire]

No. You are wrong. :spidey:

[bullets]

Hell no to change. There's not a reason on earth to alter superhero movies' best costume.

I said it, and that's it. :yay:


Agreed :up:



Also we saw the black costume in sm3 , so that was a change .

[Denny67]

keep it just how it is... tyvm. :spidey:

[Mister J]

Yeah, change the costume. It's stale. Never mind the fact that there's nothing wrong with it and it's one of the best book-to-film costume adaptations a comic film will ever get. Superfluous change means more toy/merchandise sales. Go Sony!

Change the names of some of the characters too while you're at it. Those are played as well. I mean, they've been using some of them for over four decades.

Good grief.:spidey:

As in the existing two sequels, Spidey's suit will probably get the same low-key, near imperceptible changes that it's before ...and thankfully, that'll be it.

[Spidey Snooch]

Its stale now. It needs some sort of revamp.
I'd really like to hear how you'd "revamp" the suit. What would you change? I too would like to see more rounded eyes and black webs, but those are minor changes. The word revamp suggests a complete overhaul.
I take it you're a fan of the Ben Reily suit?
If you've ever seen any of the suit concepts for the first movie, you see that the more they messed with it, the less "Spider-man" it became.

[R-Taco]

The movie version's eyes always bugged me. I'd like some that are much less angular, with a thicker black portion and a shape that that curves out on top rather than inwards.

Something more like this:
http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=1547814

The colors and texture are great, though, and I don't mind the raised webbing.

[bullets]

They could maybe do something with the eyes but i think the costume color etc should stay the same.

[david icke]

Yeah, it's definetely the best comicbook adapted costume out there, Iron-Man being 2nd i'd say.

I've thought about them changing the eyes before , to the more rounded shape of the comics. But, since they are made of a solid hard material, I think they'd look a little silly that shape, maybe look a bit feminine or something. Or cheesey, like the fins on a car can do.
The round shape works in the comics as they are meant to be cloth and seamlessly blend into the red webs I think.

[GoldGoblin]

No way,the costume is perfect as is.

[Spider-Vader]

Hell no to change. There's not a reason on earth to alter superhero movies' best costume.

I said it, and that's it. :yay:

Iron Man? His costume is getting changed in the new movie. :oldrazz:

[bubbadoom]

I would not mind the blue areas being black, like they originally were in the comics, and I suppose the eyes could be tweaked, but that's just nit picking - overall he's pretty dead on and proves that comic designs can be translated into real live characters, if you only try.

Unlike what we have been spoon fed for the last year, change just for the sake of change is not always good.

[thejon93]

Hell no to change. There's not a reason on earth to alter superhero movies' best costume.

I said it, and that's it. :yay:
What about the Winter?

[Mister J]

Spider-parkas FTW

[SpaceWay2009]

Its good but we need a change. Its been the same since 01 when SM1 was being filmed. At least update it abit.It's not the same since the first movie. The costume has been slightly changed. The eyes are more angular, and the size of the spider emblem is larger. The webbing on the costume is also thicker.

[Silver Knight]

I jkust want some changes I mean the whole franchise needs a revamp after SM3.

[Eldarion]

Who other then me thinks Spidey should get a new costume for SM4? I think its time for a revamp.
Discuss.

Didn't they gave Spider-Man already a new suit in Spider-Man 3? I thought i saw him wearing a black suit for a while. :hehe:
I'm just fine with the current one, some little adjustments might help, but are not really necessary.

[spider-neil]

The movie version's eyes always bugged me. I'd like some that are much less angular, with a thicker black portion and a shape that that curves out on top rather than inwards.

Something more like this:
http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=1547814

The colors and texture are great, though, and I don't mind the raised webbing.


:up:

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http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3921/dellottospidey202.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/i/dellottospidey202.jpg/):up: :up:

[snakeinthegear]

With every film, there'll always be some sort of minor change to the costume. However, the basic and overall design is the best of any superhero costume brought from comics 2 film. I'd like the eye's on the mask to be more rounded and a tad more menacing-looking.

[Silver Knight]

We shall see in March when filming starts.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Th only thing that has changed on the suit is the spider, the eyes, and the color, but all very slightly.

[Nathan]

Maybe when they film the Clone Saga some day, will we see another costume again.

[webhead731]

The Spidey movie suit is my favorite from comic to screen costume. It's alot like the original while being new still.

No change.

[Keyser Soze]

I think changing the costume would fall under the old saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

[Immortalfire]

The slight alterations they made in Spidey 2 were good, yet minor. Nothing else to change.

[Keyser Soze]

I want a Spider-Man costume. :(

[spida-man]

funny how hardly anyone complains about spidey's red & blue costume adaptation..but everyone wnated to talk smack about the black suit...

[Nathan]

That's because the black suit was lazy. It was his classic costume with a different spider symbol. I'm still disappointed by it.

[Silver Knight]

Likewise. I hope for something new and exiting.

[VenomVsSpidey]

funny how hardly anyone complains about spidey's red & blue costume adaptation..but everyone wnated to talk smack about the black suit...

I liked it...

[Reikowolf]

thicker black around eye lens, bigger eye lens

other than that, i really like the design of the costume from spider-man 2 onwards

[LegendaryCaleb]

The movie version's eyes always bugged me. I'd like some that are much less angular, with a thicker black portion and a shape that that curves out on top rather than inwards.

Something more like this:
http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=1547814

The colors and texture are great, though, and I don't mind the raised webbing.
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/spidermanfrontdd1.png
this versus this
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/spidermanfrontdd0.png

[The Chris]

Out of all the superhero outfits I always thought Spider-Man's was the most impressively done, with Iron Man a very close second. Just keep doing whatever doing, subtle changes each time out.

[Symbiotic]

Minor changes at the most, and even then I don't think it's necessary. No huge overhauls. Don't fix what ain't broken.

[NinjaCarm]

Costume change:

Raised black metallic webbing instead of silver with a more menacing John Romita Sr. eye re-design with a brighter blue in the costume.

The main point is the eyes.

Think about it.

[Spider-ManHero12]

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/spidermanfrontdd1.png Where is there anything wrong with that? I mean, seriously, it's the comic version brought to lied in movie form.

[BrollySupersj]

If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

[Silver Knight]

If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
Improve it.

[Immortalfire]

Where is there anything wrong with that? I mean, seriously, it's the comic version brought to life in movie form. Exactly. There's nothing to change or improve upon.

:spidey:

[Silver Knight]

Why the double post? I just think its time to revamp the costume. Its just got stale imo.

[Immortalfire]

Please, share with the group what changes you want. Because you seem to be the only one that thinks something is wrong.

[Silver Knight]

There are afew others. I just think the costume is stale now and needs abit of a revamp.

[BrollySupersj]

There are afew others. I just think the costume is stale now and needs abit of a revamp.


But how is it stale? They improved it in the second movie, and made it better in the third. Unless they go with an entirely different outfit, the one they've used the past 3 films is as good as it'll get. Can't improve what's already been improved....twice.

[spider-neil]

would perfer the webbing to be black, currently it is almost silver (I realise it's because it's picking up the light) but in the first movie I swear the webs were darker. check out the posters for spider-man 1 compared to spider-man 2 and three. in posters for SM1 the webbing is nearly jet black.

[LegendaryCaleb]

Improve it.
I dont know what they should improve...its near perfect IMO

[omid17]

^ agreed

costume is perfect

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z277/venomwithin/spiderman2_l.jpg

[Spider-ManHero12]

There are afew others. I just think the costume is stale now and needs abit of a revamp. I nwhat way though, seriously?

[Immortalfire]

I don't think he has any ideas, honestly.

[omid17]

Who other then me thinks Spidey should get a new costume for SM4? I think its time for a revamp.

Discuss.

Its good but we need a change. Its been the same since 01 when SM1 was being filmed. At least update it abit.
Yes to change.
Its stale now. It needs some sort of revamp.

I jkust want some changes I mean the whole franchise needs a revamp after SM3.

We shall see in March when filming starts.

Likewise. I hope for something new and exiting.

Improve it.

Why the double post? I just think its time to revamp the costume. Its just got stale imo.

There are afew others. I just think the costume is stale now and needs abit of a revamp.

I don't think he has any ideas, honestly.lol seriously he's basically saying the same thing

and in SM3 we saw him with the symbiote suite

[Silver Knight]

I don't think he has any ideas, honestly.
Something completly new. You know they are going to do it to sell more toys.

[BrollySupersj]

I dont know what they should improve...its near perfect IMO

Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm saying. Unless they go with an entirely new design. There isn't any to improve on with the current suit.

[Mr.LethalWeapon]

It's been done already, in the comic books (Ben Reilly when he briefly took over as Spider-Man). It wasn't received well.

[VenomVsSpidey]

something completly new.

like what?

[Immortalfire]

I am on the verge of closing this, as nothing is getting said other than "stale" and "revamp"...and everyone else seems to be of the mind that Spidey's costume is perfect as is.

[Nathan]

Spidey's outfit is timeless. It was a great costume when he was created in 1962 and 47 years later he still wears it. Any costume changes that are going to happen, would be based on the story. Like him getting the black suit because of the symbiote. He's not getting a costume revamp for the hell of it.

[Reikowolf]

modification based on the villain would be cool tho. Mixing something into his organic webbing. Which would be a good way to introduce the web shooters, as a filter nozzle to mix a substance with his webbing.

this distracts from what the focus of the movie should be though, which is writing a good story.

[spider-neil]

^ agreed

costume is perfect

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z277/venomwithin/spiderman2_l.jpg

best costume in cinema (along with hellboy and iron man)
but...

* rounder eyes
* darker webs

would be nice

[Silver Knight]

best costume in cinema (along with hellboy and iron man)
but...

* rounder eyes
* darker webs

would be nice
Add a lighter blue to that list as well.

[spider-neil]

Add a lighter blue to that list as well.


I actually perfer the dark blue, I wish superman's costume had been this shade of blue.

[bubbadoom]

Lighter blue, I think NOT! He should be red and BLACK, the way Ditko designed him! But a darker blue would be a good compromise.

[spida-man]

That's because the black suit was lazy. It was his classic costume with a different spider symbol. I'm still disappointed by it.
not really, the eyes were actaully silver(ish) and the black made the webbing design stand out more...I don't remember where I i remember hearing about how they actually tried to use the original comic book version and it just didn't look right on camera

[LegendaryCaleb]

they actually had a original black costume made....theres a picture (i dont have it anymore)
it was too shiny and slick for the camera

[Hectorminator]

they actually had a original black costume made....theres a picture (i dont have it anymore)
it was too shiny and slick for the camera

I need to see a picture of this.

[Hectorminator]

they actually had a original black costume made....theres a picture (i dont have it anymore)
it was too shiny and slick for the camera

Nevermind, I found it.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/41424/872615-black_spiderman_costume_super.jpg

Tobey really let himself go for Spider-Man 3...

[Immortalfire]

Holy crap

[Nathan]

not really, the eyes were actaully silver(ish) and the black made the webbing design stand out more...I don't remember where I i remember hearing about how they actually tried to use the original comic book version and it just didn't look right on camera

I saw that and it looked like they didn't even try much. It was too shiney? Then how about not using a material that looks like wet latex? And they could have given it the same texture detail the original suit had, simply without the webbing.

The black suit they used wasn't too shiney for the camera, so what was the problem in making a suit without the webbing and a bigger spider?

[LightningFlash]

I would love a take on the TSSM costume. I was always a fan of the webbing under the arms.

[snakeinthegear]

Nevermind, I found it.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/41424/872615-black_spiderman_costume_super.jpg

Tobey really let himself go for Spider-Man 3...

Is that a man or a woman? :woot::oldrazz:

[webhead731]

Does it matter? :eek:

[snakeinthegear]

Out of all the superhero outfits I always thought Spider-Man's was the most impressively done, with Iron Man a very close second. Just keep doing whatever doing, subtle changes each time out.

spider-man and ironman's costumes are equally impressive imo.

[snakeinthegear]

Does it matter? :eek:

LMAO! I guess not. :hehe:

[BrollySupersj]

I myself think the current suit is pretty darn perfect. But, if they do go with an entirely different suit, I wouldn't mind seeing the old Alex Ross costume resurrected.

http://sfstory.free.fr/images/Spiderman/spiderman1024.jpg

Looks pretty nifty, I always did like that costume.

[LegendaryCaleb]

found it!
credit to NewYorkerNick from the sony spidey boards...he posted it in a thread made in 2007 from the spider-man chronicles book by grant curtis
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/blackspideyconcept.jpg
http://boards.sonypictures.com/spiderman/showthread.php?p=302657#post302657
(notice them deciding what symbol to use on the chest...)

[Nathan]

And here's the manip I found again from a while ago. If they thought the suit looked too shiney, they could've done this.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2968/blackenstein.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/i/blackenstein.jpg/)

[Boom]

found it!
credit to NewYorkerNick from the sony spidey boards...he posted it in a thread made in 2007 from the spider-man chronicles book by grant curtis
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/blackspideyconcept.jpg
http://boards.sonypictures.com/spiderman/showthread.php?p=302657#post302657
(notice them deciding what symbol to use on the chest...)
Wow. Epic fail, Raimi. That suit would have been perfect.

Anyway, my stance on Spider-Man's costume remains the same as it was a year ago when this subject came up.

-Rounder, bigger eyes. There was concept art of Spidey scaling a building from the Spider-Man 1 DVD that had the perfect eyes.
-A richer blue color for the suit. I hate the sickly gray-blue they've gone with every movie.
-Thinner, BLACK webbing on the suit.

Do that, and the suit's perfect in my book.

[spider-neil]

http://www.solarnavigator.net/films_movies_actors/actors_films_images/Spiderman_the_movie_poster_starring_Tobey_Maguire. jpg

http://mymoviebanners.com/pics/spiderman/spiderman-1.jpg


look how dark these webs are compared to


http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z277/venomwithin/spiderman2_l.jpg

I think it has more to do with how the webs are catching the light and them actually using lighter webs

[SpaceWay2009]

And here's the manip I found again from a while ago. If they thought the suit looked too shiney, they could've done this.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2968/blackenstein.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/i/blackenstein.jpg/)That looks nice! I wish the black suit was like this in SM3.

[Silver Knight]

found it!
credit to NewYorkerNick from the sony spidey boards...he posted it in a thread made in 2007 from the spider-man chronicles book by grant curtis
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/blackspideyconcept.jpg
http://boards.sonypictures.com/spiderman/showthread.php?p=302657#post302657
(notice them deciding what symbol to use on the chest...)
Wow, see this looks epic.

[VenomVsSpidey]

[QUOTE=Boom;17615311]Wow. Epic fail, Raimi. That suit would have been perfect.

/QUOTE]


ok, i loved SM3, the costume was cool..but i agree..

[spider-neil]

I don't get their logic for dropping that costume, 'I didn't show up against dark backgrounds'.
for me that is the best thing ABOUT the costume, i.e. when he is in the shadows all you can sider is the white spider and eyes, how scary is that?

[david icke]

I don't get their logic for dropping that costume, 'I didn't show up against dark backgrounds'.
for me that is the best thing ABOUT the costume, i.e. when he is in the shadows all you can sider is the white spider and eyes, how scary is that?

Because you want to see what he is actually doing, crawling, fighting etc.
The suit looks good there against a white background, but I can see why they didn't go with it for practical purposes.

[Silver Knight]

Because you want to see what he is actually doing, crawling, fighting etc.
The suit looks good there against a white background, but I can see why they didn't go with it for practical purposes.
I beg to differ.

[snakeinthegear]

That looks nice! I wish the black suit was like this in SM3.

I wish spider-man 3 didn't turn out to be, well, spider-man 3.

[david icke]

I beg to differ.

Well, if they said it didn't show up against dark backgrounds, that would be the reason, you wouldn't be able to see what he was doing.
I trust the reasoning of the actual filmakers who actually tested the suit on film over a guy on the net who doesn't explain his reasoning as to why he thinks it would show up well on camera in dark scenes. I mean, the only real action scene we get with the black costume is in the dark of a subway.

The raised webbing on the black outfit make it easier to see. If it had been all black it would have been difficult to see, and ultimately boring to look at. Just black and a white spider. The webbing gives it texture and weight, especially when a lot of the costume we would be getting would be the CG version.

[webhead731]

The Chronicles explained why they didn't use the classic design. People who complain about this haven't thought it through, and really need to accept it was changed for the better. What works in the comics doesn't work on the movies, so fans should learn that there are people doing this as their job and have tons more experience and schooling than you, and chose what they felt worked best. If you're going to disagree, give good reasons why but also think about what they thought about.

While at first, it may look like his red and blues only colored black, there are more changes.
1. It's made of a more rubbery, silky material to give it that shiny effect. The pattern on the suit reflects in more of a white lit way, rather than the way it was on the original suit. The suit looks more organic rather than like cloth.
2. The eyes were tilted slightly and given a bit of a dark texture inside them.
3. Front and back spiders are changed and now more white.

The raised webbing helped capture the suit in motion at night, made it more three dimensional, helping it pop out alot more.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Exactly. Same goes for The Green Goblin's costume. I mean, honestly, do you actually think the original comic book Green Goblin costume would work on film?

[BrollySupersj]

^^ Exactly. Same goes for The Green Goblin's costume. I mean, honestly, do you actually think the original comic book Green Goblin costume would work on film?

If done right (not that I have a problem with the SM1 Goblin suit). But the offical behind the scenes book had a lot of production art, and concept work.

Alot of the original designs for the GG suit retained the comic look, but with a heavy feel of tech. Some of them looked pretty damn good.

[Nathan]

There a difference between bringing a goofy looking character to the screen (Green Goblin) and a simple design like the the black suit. If they would've done it similar to the manip, I don't see how that would've looked horrible on screen.

[BrollySupersj]

I beg to differ.

Let me guess, you think it looks stale and needs a revamp, right?:whatever:

[spider-neil]

if it works in the comics it can work on the big screen. I find it annoying when people say 'that wont work on the big screen' why exactly? the best superhero costumes movies

spider-man
hellboy
iron man
sandman
superman (reeve' costume not the singer disgrace)

see the partern here? these costumes were copied nearly exactly from the comic book.

[BrollySupersj]

if it works in the comics it can work on the big screen. I find it annoying when people say 'that wont work on the big screen' why exactly? the best superhero costumes movies

spider-man
hellboy
iron man
sandman
superman (reeve' costume not the singer disgrace)

see the partern here? these costumes were copied nearly exactly from the comic book.

Tell that to Galactus,Bulls Eye,and Black Heart.:whatever:

[storyteller]

Could they further improve the costume.....I guess.

But color wise I think they could fix that up in post. I honestly don't think the eyes need to be changed. In the comics the eyes can express emotion. You can't do that in real life with the mask.

[SamuraiSon6]

no need for a new costume until they change cast and crew, it works perfect

[webhead731]

if it works in the comics it can work on the big screen. I find it annoying when people say 'that wont work on the big screen' why exactly? the best superhero costumes movies

spider-man
hellboy
iron man
sandman
superman (reeve' costume not the singer disgrace)

see the partern here? these costumes were copied nearly exactly from the comic book.

Some things don't need changed. Iron Man, Hellboy, and Sandman really don't need any changes whatsoever. Spidey needed a bit of an update, being red and light blue, and just basic black webbing etc. It would have been a little boring. So they added the silver raised webbing to capture lighting, and the eyes weren't cloth or anything, they were silver lenses.

A straight comic-big screen has been seen, and it's not that pretty.

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/qyYrxQx7RBc&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/qyYrxQx7RBc&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

It's like a fan film. It just looks a bit goofy (still loveable however).

As for Superman, flame me all you want, but I think his costume is meh. Bringing it to a movie and not changing a damn thing made it look like a cheap Halloween costume. I actually prefer Singer's look more, because they made it look authentic. However, I still don't care for the over all design. Some things NEED changing or some type of update.

[Carcharodon]

Does anybody else remember the mask with the more rounded lenses they were considering for the first movie? They actually had it the way lots of you are suggesting.

And it looked like ****. Complete and utter ****.

[Carcharodon]

Double.

[webhead731]

Yes.

I have the pictures of it, and it does look dumb.

[Silver Knight]

Does anybody else remember the mask with the more rounded lenses they were considering for the first movie? They actually had it the way lots of you are suggesting.

And it looked like ****. Complete and utter ****.
Any pics?

[LightningFlash]

Yes, I want to see a pic as well.

Cuz, if it looks like ****, then obviously they messed up on the mask. Cuz rounder, bigger eyes would look awesome, imo.

[Silver Knight]

Yes.

I have the pictures of it, and it does look dumb.
Can you post a pic?

[lovelife66]

looking forward to it (http://www.buyseriesdvd.com)

[storyteller]

Lets not get things confused.

Some here are simply talking about cosmetic changes to the costume but levae it pretty much intact. Different hue, darker webbing...etc is cosmetic. Hell even comic book artist do this. The suit is for the most part left intact.


Superman return suit was cosmetic. The material may not have been cotton but the design was kept.

Then we have radical redesigns. BATMAN is a radical redesign. They kept some elements but its a whole new beast. Daredevil mask was a redesign. It being leather is cosmetic but its helmet thing was a redesign. The X-men uniforms were redesigns. Wolverine and co were not wearing their classic costumes.



Now do people want a redesign or just a cosmetic change?

I feel that if you can't adapt the suit to the big screen then don't do it all. Superman suit is him. Now if you want to make the underwear more shorts like then fine. But don't change the whole design. No black suit with a yellow cape.

Spiderman doesn't need a change. Audience aren't tired of the suit. Hell the suit needs to be showcased more. Hell the mask needs to at least stay on more.

[Jokey]

I'm fine with the red and blue suit making a return. There is nothing wrong with it. If it aint broke, don't fix it.

[Silver Knight]

There WILL BE a new costume. Just watch and see. :)

[Immortalfire]

I'll watch and see...see it be the same costume they've used for 47 years :)

[VenomVsSpidey]

I'll watch and see...see it be the same costume they've used for 47 years :)

:awesome:

[Pac-Master]

Can you post a pic?

You can see it in the very first trailer for the first film. Pause at 18 seconds:
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[omid17]

I'll watch and see...see it be the same costume they've used for 47 years :):hehe:

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'll watch and see...see it be the same costume they've used for 47 years :) :spidey::yay::up:

[Immortalfire]

With my Spider-Man boarders in support, my claim cannot fail! :spidey:

[Silver Knight]

You can see it in the very first trailer for the first film. Pause at 18 seconds:
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Thanks for this.

[HughJackFan420]

no new costume but i would like the black suited Spidey again only to see it's true powers like tendrils and how it can form into deadly weapons.

[Gamma Goliath]

yeah not happining, you might as well look foward to that in venom

[Silver Knight]

There will be changes based on selling more figures and toys.

[ThatDamnNinja]

Any manips of what Spidey would look like with black raised-webbing?

[Silver Knight]

No sir, I dont have any but im sure theers some out there.

[Silverstein]

I vote change, but in the sense of keeping it similar and more like the comics. Not a change of a suit.

-Black webbing that is "in-costume", like the comics, rather than the metallic grey webbing that sits ontop of his suit now.
-Change the front and back spiders to be more like the comics
- Make the red and blue...more red and blue, there were moments where he almost looked orange and black...
-Make the webbing, he shoots, more organic looking as opposed to mettallic strands..

[MikeFrost]

I actually like the spider logos from the movies better. The ones from the comic are a bit too cartoony, goofy. The movie ones look more edgy.

Same thing about the costume webbing. Making it raised gives the costume alot more depth. Most costumes look like crappy pijamas if they don't have some detail like this. Makes it more real, I figure. I do agree tho, that it would be a little darker, the metalic grey looks a little bit odd in some shots with all of those reflections.

[HughJackFan420]

i like the raised webbing but they got lazy with the symbiote suit. it should've been a brilliant white as far as the spider emblem and they should've added the white squares on the back of his hand but that's hollywood for ya...idiots.

[Superhero 101]

I think that they should change the white webbing to black. to make it one step closer to the comics.

[Silverstein]

Making it raised gives the costume alot more depth. Most costumes look like crappy pijamas if they don't have some detail like this. Makes it more real, I figure.

I disagree, I feel that the raised webbing looks out of place for these reasons:

1. A highschool student could sow together a cotton costume and make the comic spidey suit, maybe even going so far as to get a bit of help from a fabric shop or dry cleaning/tailoring store. But a $500,000 suit with reflective eyes and raised webbing, when he can't even afford a car? And I'd hate to think he spent his inheritance on buying the suit. Because that would mean he got the great responsibility part all wrong.

2. It comes across looking a bit more like scales. Like do you remember when action figures would be released with "water fun" themes, for kids to play in their bathtubs? Well the movie spider-man looks like Marvel's attempt at a Toy Biz "Aqua Fun Time Spider-Man" concept...

3. It wouldn't look like pyjamas if it were done seriously and handled with the right coloring and detail. Angle the eyes, keep the sharp edges, thin out the webbing (also make it black) and make it a part of the costume, and we've got a serious and yet cool looking suit.

I mean, think about it: Neither the 1970's CBS, nor the japanese live action spider-man shows looked too out of place. I mean if we ignore the bad special effects, both shows actually proved that the costume can work in the real world.

[Silverstein]

Also they could bring in the black suit, especially if they go with a black cat storyline..

BC: Hey, spider..
SM: Cat, you followed me!
BC: Look, I made this for you. I liked your old suit better before you fought those freaks at the construction zone...You and that Hobgo---
SM: I don't want to talk about it.
BC: It's all black, like my outfit *does a cute little 360 for him/the audience* with this white spider on the front and back. It's not exactly like your old one, but we'd look pretty sexy together...

And then bam! No more explanation needed, he'd just wear the black suit for the movie. And then at the end when he undoubtedly chooses MJ...he'd go back to red and blue for the next film.

[Lunar_Wolf]

I think they will only make slight changed like they did in the 2nd and 3rd flick, nothing to obvious.

[Silver Knight]

I vote change, but in the sense of keeping it similar and more like the comics. Not a change of a suit.

-Black webbing that is "in-costume", like the comics, rather than the metallic grey webbing that sits ontop of his suit now.
-Change the front and back spiders to be more like the comics
- Make the red and blue...more red and blue, there were moments where he almost looked orange and black...
-Make the webbing, he shoots, more organic looking as opposed to mettallic strands..
Could not agree more.

[Rick Random]

Glad we didn't get this (although the black lenses WERE used for a while, i.e. filming for the armoured car scene)

http://www.alexrossart.com/galleries/spiderman/full/spiderman4.jpg

[Nathan]

I'm glad that in the end we got the faithful comic costume, but I never hated Alex Ross's version.

[Rodimus Primal]

If he wears a new costume it should be temporary and he should have tons of quipage to accompany it. Then go back to the "Red, Torn, and Blue." (yes I love SSM).

[BigSams50]

http://www.samruby.com/Sen/Large/SensationalSpider-Man2V26.jpg

^THis






JK

[Silverstein]

Don't even joke about that. Some exec somewhere might push for that come time for the avengers movie...

[BrollySupersj]

Glad we didn't get this (although the black lenses WERE used for a while, i.e. filming for the armoured car scene)

http://www.alexrossart.com/galleries/spiderman/full/spiderman4.jpg


I always did want to see this suit used.

[MikeFrost]

I disagree, I feel that the raised webbing looks out of place for these reasons:

1. A highschool student could sow together a cotton costume and make the comic spidey suit, maybe even going so far as to get a bit of help from a fabric shop or dry cleaning/tailoring store. But a $500,000 suit with reflective eyes and raised webbing, when he can't even afford a car? And I'd hate to think he spent his inheritance on buying the suit. Because that would mean he got the great responsibility part all wrong.

Well from a logic/realism point of view yes, I agree with that. But visual-wise, those Japanese shows did look alot like pijamas.

The suit needs some depth to make up for the less angled silhouette of the actors wearing it.

One of the reasons costumes look good in the comics but look corny when translated to real life is because of the actual persons silhouette underneath. In comic books the heros have this really muscled out and sharp angled bodies that don't exist in Hollywood.

Not even Hugh Jackman managed to reach that level of rippedness and he did get close. It just takes too long and too much commitment/drug abuse. :p

[Silver Knight]

Glad we didn't get this (although the black lenses WERE used for a while, i.e. filming for the armoured car scene)

http://www.alexrossart.com/galleries/spiderman/full/spiderman4.jpgThis is perfect! Its new and fresh, just what the franchise needs.

[Nathan]

Yeah, not gonna happen. Not now that they proved that the comic costume just works perfectly on screen.

[Silverstein]

Love Alex Ross but that suit is trash.

[DX]

Glad we didn't get this (although the black lenses WERE used for a while, i.e. filming for the armoured car scene)

http://www.alexrossart.com/galleries/spiderman/full/spiderman4.jpg
Heh. I remember using that costume on the SM1 video game.

And, really, there's nothing wrong with the current costume. Though, I would like to see the Spider-Armour on screen. :o (I kid.)

[mothy]

i'm fine with minor tweaks, but i'd like the spider-man 4 suit basically the same as the other red and blue suits. i think it's perfect, so i wouldn't go changing it that much.

[BrollySupersj]

This is perfect! Its new and fresh, just what the franchise needs.

Well that's never gonna happen, it's way...WAY too far from the comic. While I like the costume, that suit wouldn't work for 2-4 movies. I'd rather see it as a change to Spidey's wardrobe for a bit, then return to the original.

[Ace of Knaves]

So what's wrong with the Iron Spider suit? Obviously I don't want it in film but in the comics I think it was cool. And the way Stark used it to sorta, coerce Pete into going pro-reg was clever.

But why change the costume in the next movie? The costume has been great so far. There is literally ZERO point in changing it up.

[david icke]

Glad we didn't get this (although the black lenses WERE used for a while, i.e. filming for the armoured car scene)

http://www.alexrossart.com/galleries/spiderman/full/spiderman4.jpg

The lenses are about the only thing i like about the deviations in this illustration.

The spider-logo look ridiculous that size. It looks more like the wee guy on the door of a gent's toilet.

And there is absolutely nothing going on trouser or boot wise. Outfit is only half there as an outfit, not too interesting to look at from the bellybutton down.

The rest of the changes are minor, and just go to show how well the original works by comparison.

[BillyD]

Seriously, what is the deal with everyone wanting to change costumes? If you hate on the costume so much, read another comic or see another movie...I want to see Spider-man, Superman, Batman, Iron Man, and all of those guys the way they are drawn...if you change it, they arent the characters I love anymore!

[david icke]

Seriously, what is the deal with everyone wanting to change costumes? If you hate on the costume so much, read another comic or see another movie...I want to see Spider-man, Superman, Batman, Iron Man, and all of those guys the way they are drawn...if you change it, they arent the characters I love anymore!

Sometimes what works as a drawing does not translate to the screen without looking ridiculous though.
You do the Batman outfit the way it's drawn and you get the old 60s Adam West outfit.
Wolverine would probably not look so dangerous in the movies dressed in bright yellow either.
And if you can't believe that the Batman from the Nolan movies is your cherished character brought to life because they adapted his outfit, you'll probably never be satisfied with a Batman movie.

The point about keeping the Spidey outfit the way it is, is that it's one of the times they actually managed to get the one from the printed page adapted to real life extremely well. That, and the original design is one of the all time classics.

And Silver Knight, you were saying that they will change the outfit for the movies to sell toys.
Hey, for something like Batman and Robin, it does look like they added a change of outfit at the end of the film for that reason.
But, they won't be doing that here. They already have umpteen types of Spider-man figures out there, they don't have to screw around with the perfect design they spent ages on getting just right.

[BillyD]

Sometimes what works as a drawing does not translate to the screen without looking ridiculous though.
You do the Batman outfit the way it's drawn and you get the old 60s Adam West outfit.
Wolverine would probably not look so dangerous in the movies dressed in bright yellow either.
And if you can't believe that the Batman from the Nolan movies is your cherished character brought to life because they adapted his outfit, you'll probably never be satisfied with a Batman movie.

The point about keeping the Spidey outfit the way it is, is that it's one of the times they actually managed to get the one from the printed page adapted to real life extremely well. That, and the original design is one of the all time classics.

And Silver Knight, you were saying that they will change the outfit for the movies to sell toys.
Hey, for something like Batman and Robin, it does look like they added a change of outfit at the end of the film for that reason.
But, they won't be doing that here. They already have umpteen types of Spider-man figures out there, they don't have to screw around with the perfect design they spent ages on getting just right.


I agree...Spider-man's outfit is iconic and timeless...LEAVE BRITN...I mean SPIDEY ALONE!!!

[storyteller]

Sometimes what works as a drawing does not translate to the screen without looking ridiculous though.
You do the Batman outfit the way it's drawn and you get the old 60s Adam West outfit.
Wolverine would probably not look so dangerous in the movies dressed in bright yellow either.
And if you can't believe that the Batman from the Nolan movies is your cherished character brought to life because they adapted his outfit, you'll probably never be satisfied with a Batman movie.
.

I think this is a misconception. I think many costumes can work in a live action movie but the trick is to make sure it doesn't look like a Halloween outfit. Case in point is spiderman himself. The 70's costume was pretty bad but retained the same design as the comic. The 00's is awesome and retains the same design as the comic. The difference was attention to detail(raised webbing, scale like pattern the suit, material,body suit underneath, choice of colors) and not making a simple translation.

Yeah I agree wolverine would look too threatening in bright yellow spandex. But that doesn't mean the suit design and a darker yellow wouldn't work. If wolverine can look badass in his current yellow suit, I think they can make a movie version that would work.

Heck even the comics have adjusted to this by drawing textured costumes.

Now Batman I think is in the same boat. A straight translation isn't going to work. But a careful adaptation can. Heck the Dark Knight suit has been the first step in moving away from a total thick one piece suit. Stick some gray on it and you got your costume.


To me to real issue has always been that one color spandex on the body sucks.

[BillyD]

I think this is a misconception. I think many costumes can work in a live action movie but the trick is to make sure it doesn't look like a Halloween outfit. Case in point is spiderman himself. The 70's costume was pretty bad but retained the same design as the comic. The 00's is awesome and retains the same design as the comic. The difference was attention to detail(raised webbing, scale like pattern the suit, material,body suit underneath, choice of colors) and not making a simple translation.

Yeah I agree wolverine would look too threatening in bright yellow spandex. But that doesn't mean the suit design and a darker yellow wouldn't work. If wolverine can look badass in his current yellow suit, I think they can make a movie version that would work.

Heck even the comics have adjusted to this by drawing textured costumes.

Now Batman I think is in the same boat. A straight translation isn't going to work. But a careful adaptation can. Heck the Dark Knight suit has been the first step in moving away from a total thick one piece suit. Stick some gray on it and you got your costume.


To me to real issue has always been that one color spandex on the body sucks.

I agreed with you all the way until your last point...that batman suit was a wreck...they sacrificed alot of quality and the essense of the character being "spooky" just so he could move his neck...whoopie...

Spidey on the other hand, is perfect, and he gets more and more perfect with each and every little tweek...the only thing I really would change though are the eyes...I would love for them to be white...the closest they've come to being the way I like is when he is swinging through the city in SM2 right before he loses his powers and falls into the alleyway. :woot:

[Agent 194]

Spidey on the other hand, is perfect, and he gets more and more perfect with each and every little tweek...the only thing I really would change though are the eyes...I would love for them to be white...the closest they've come to being the way I like is when he is swinging through the city in SM2 right before he loses his powers and falls into the alleyway. :woot:


It's been funny to me...and I've been watching the progression from the very beginning (from the early days of this site). But every little 'tweek' they do each movie makes me laugh (and the exhaustive thought and behind the scene, DVD extras, discussion). Because what they're really doing is getting closer to the original costume design. Which is what they should have done in the first place. Marvel arists put 'blacks' into the Spider-Man's costume to make more emphasis on the page. With digital technology today they could shade and fool the viewers eyes in the movie all the while using the original design. I always wonder if that's occured to anyone making these things.

[SpeterMan3]

Its good but we need a change. Its been the same since 01 when SM1 was being filmed. At least update it abit.
It changed in Spider-Man 2...

[DACrowe]

It's pretty perfect. We got a cool (and misused) black costume in the last movie. This isn't Batman who needs to tweak his costume to deal with new threats and increased mobility. This is Spidey. Stick with the classic.

[mre]

I think they should keep it the same. But if they change it, it will probably be the size of the eyes.

[Spider-Fan83]

what would you think of spidey using some of the gobin gear/tech, to upgrade his suit???

[Nathan]

What? o_O

[Silver Knight]

what would you think of spidey using some of the gobin gear/tech, to upgrade his suit???
No.

[Spider-Fan83]

never mid
was going for a funny idea, half jokly, to see what poeple migth think of for it...

you know what, just never mind, the joke didn't quite land, didn't qute get what I going for there...

[mre]

No you are right, Power Ranger Spidey would be pretty funny. I'd love to see a manip of that!

[DACMAN]

No one draws him like Mark. The guy was born to draw Spidey. I'd love to see this on film, but then we'd probably need my reboot as well. I say keep him in high school for all 3 films.

http://www.jkrweb.com/comics/images/ultimate-spider-man_sm.jpg

Or maybe something like this...http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/GabrieleDellOttoMB/PosterSpideyVsVenom.jpg

[DACMAN]

He'll get minor tweaks like he always has, but he won't look much different from SM3. Personally, I would like if he'd look more menacing. I always liked how Dell'otto draws him.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3921/dellottospidey202.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/i/dellottospidey202.jpg/)

That looks like the Web of Shadows Spidey. I love it! :up:

I'd love to see them move towards that.

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/925/925677/spider-man-web-of-shadows-20081030024207139_640w.jpg

[mre]

I have always liked the look of the smaller eyes.

[Spider-Fan83]

I wish they could find a way to make the eyes more expressive, like if they could, squint smaller, or get wider, to show more of his reacts

I think that the main different between the comic and cartoon version, and live action, you don't have much rang under a mask (which is probably why he's always losing it)

not really sure how they would go about doing that, though

[Nathan]

Which is easily fixed by being a little more expressive with the rest of the body.

[dark_b]

http://www.3dtotal.com/getgalleryitem.php?cat=character&id=3804

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1059/2009110142633newposewit.jpg (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/2009110142633newposewit.jpg/)

:hehe:

[Nathan]

What's that supposed to be? Another take on the Scarlet Spider costume?

[dark_b]

this is art.

[Spider-ManHero12]

http://www.3dtotal.com/getgalleryitem.php?cat=character&id=3804

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1059/2009110142633newposewit.jpg (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/2009110142633newposewit.jpg/)

:hehe: MY god, that's incredible!

[B]

http://www.3dtotal.com/getgalleryitem.php?cat=character&id=3804

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1059/2009110142633newposewit.jpg (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/2009110142633newposewit.jpg/)

:hehe:


HO...LY ****! :wow:

Say what you want about the suit design however there is no denying whomever put that together has got superb skills :up:

[Silver Knight]

No one draws him like Mark. The guy was born to draw Spidey. I'd love to see this on film, but then we'd probably need my reboot as well. I say keep him in high school for all 3 films.

http://www.jkrweb.com/comics/images/ultimate-spider-man_sm.jpg

Or maybe something like this...http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/GabrieleDellOttoMB/PosterSpideyVsVenom.jpg
The second one is incredible.

[DACMAN]

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:onEAxwSrimUteM:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/GabrieleDellOttoMB/PosterSpideyVsVenom.jpg

I had to repost it but smaller. Sorry.

[MrShifty]

http://www.3dtotal.com/getgalleryitem.php?cat=character&id=3804

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1059/2009110142633newposewit.jpg (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/2009110142633newposewit.jpg/)

:hehe:

It's ill except for the daisy dukes he's got on. But besides that its freakin amazing.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Did Rob Zombie design that?

[Immortalfire]

Looks like a Michael Bay Spidey

[mre]

I think that looks pretty bad ass.

[Jostru]

Could someone please point out the changes made for Spider-man 2, because I never really noticed any changes to be honest...

[webhead731]

The red was more red, the blue was more blue. It was alot more rich in color that way.
The front spider was also slightly changed.

[MikeFrost]

Scarlet Spider render

He looks scary. I like it.

Remove the urban clothes, throw him a few costume twists and a mouth and you have Spider-Carnage xD

[Mr.?]

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/spidermanfrontdd1.png
this versus this
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/spidermanfrontdd0.png
The second one is better looking imo, thats a subtle change they could do with the 4th one. It would keep it updated without straying to far from the original suit.

[mjbull23]

I prefer the design of the eyes in the top drawing. BTW that Spidey & Venom pic is incredible. :up:

[Brian Braddock]

The Spider-man movie costume is the best adapted costume to date. Sure, as always, there'll be minor tweaks here and there - but an entirely new costume? How does one improve on an already near perfect translation without drastically altering the concept?

If it aint broke - dont fix it.

[Spider-Who?]

black webs. larger eyes. deeper reds and darker blues.

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz107/BlueEasy/spiderman2_.jpg

[Rodrigo90]

If he is dealing with Electro.

The Insulation Outfit.i

[Spidey-Quad]

The costume has been changed for each movie, alibet small changes for depth improvement, filming reasons. Silver Knight if you embrace change so much I suggest you push for a Wasp film. She changed costumes monthly. Changing Spider-Man's costume would be like changing Superman's. That is just plain s-t-u-p-i-d!!!

Kind of like this thread and ... too obviously

[Brian Braddock]

There are some comicbook movie franchises that have never get the costuming right despite repeated attempts, yet here we are debating on whether one of the few that got absolutely nailed 1st time around should be changed because it's seen by some as 'stale'.........

Yowzers.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea seriously, there is no point in changing the costume at all. It is PERFECT I think.

And I don't like the really big eyes. Not for live action anyway.

[DACMAN]

This one looks much better.


http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/spidermanfrontdd1.png

[DACMAN]

black webs. larger eyes. deeper reds and darker blues.

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz107/BlueEasy/spiderman2_.jpg

The eyes are already huge! Just look at the picture. I'd prefer something like that drawing above this post. Smaller eyes, and sharper. They make him look pissed.

[Spider-Who?]

The eyes are already huge! Just look at the picture. I'd prefer something like that drawing above this post. Smaller eyes, and sharper. They make him look pissed.
lol, they are "huge" in that picture because the picture is photoshopped. here is the comparison:

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz107/BlueEasy/Untitled-1.jpg

[Spider-Who?]

There are some comicbook movie franchises that have never get the costuming right despite repeated attempts, yet here we are debating on whether one of the few that got absolutely nailed 1st time around should be changed because it's seen by some as 'stale'.........

Yowzers.
don't get me wrong; I've loved the outfit since the very first picture ever released. I think its safe to say that the majority of those posting their opinions on the matter would agree with that. However, just because we like the costume as is, doesn't mean we can't discuss hypothetical changes. The fact is, as many have stated already; the costume undergoes changes with each film; whether its the intent of the costume designers to try and make the costume 'better", or simply to see something new. There is no harm in us fans doing the same, and it certianly doesn't mean we have negative opinions or don't appreciate what we have gotten so far. Not to attack you (i'm just making a blanket statement), but I think its more ridiculous to get bent out of shape when fellow fans discuss changes they'd "like to see", when we all know our opinions are merely that, and more importantly, discussing the suit and playing "designer" is simply innocent fun. Why is that such a bad thing? (no need to answer - its a rhetorical question).

One thing I'd like to see is the back spider from the first movie. I really liked that version, and feel that the other incarnations - although good on their own - don't hold up to the design of the spider from the first flick.