The Official Stupid Question Thread: Marvel Edition

[Iron Man]

Not a peep. I really wish she could've made it onto an Avengers team. She still could, but it seems unlikely given that Bendis doesn't seem to have any interest in her.

Cheers. I'd like to see her on the Avengers, I remember being disappointed when she turned down membership at the end of that Avengers/Thunderbolts mini years back. I just hope she isn't dropped into limbo.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, like I said, there's still a chance. We got promos for the new Avengers series that revealed a few of the characters on each team (except Secret Avengers, since they're apparently keeping them secret until the series actually launches), but Bendis said that the promos didn't show all of the characters who'll be in Avengers and Gage mentioned that the teachers for Avengers Academy--who weren't shown at all, as the promos for that series only featured new students--will comprise several characters we've seen before. We now know one of them is Hank Pym, but Songbird could be another. I'd personally love to see Songbird on the teaching staff for the academy. It might not be as action-oriented as the other Avengers series, but it would open a lot of interesting doors for the character's progression.

[Scarecrow_King]

is Beast too busy to be teaching at Avengers Academy? I'd like to see him back in the Avengers' world.

[Iron Man]

Well, like I said, there's still a chance. We got promos for the new Avengers series that revealed a few of the characters on each team (except Secret Avengers, since they're apparently keeping them secret until the series actually launches), but Bendis said that the promos didn't show all of the characters who'll be in Avengers and Gage mentioned that the teachers for Avengers Academy--who weren't shown at all, as the promos for that series only featured new students--will comprise several characters we've seen before. We now know one of them is Hank Pym, but Songbird could be another. I'd personally love to see Songbird on the teaching staff for the academy. It might not be as action-oriented as the other Avengers series, but it would open a lot of interesting doors for the character's progression.

I wouldn't mind seeing her as a teacher at the academy at all. She might even pop up as a Secret Avenger - that'd be great, I'd like to see how Brubaker handled her. And she'd fit better with the sneakier kind of team, I think.

[Iron Man]

is Beast too busy to be teaching at Avengers Academy? I'd like to see him back in the Avengers' world.

Beast is going to be in Secret Avengers, I think.

[Scarecrow_King]

is the current Nova series any good? I've never really been into the cosmic books but it's something I'm looking into.

[BrianWilly]

Yes.

Yes, it is incredibly good. It's been my favorite Marvel series ever since it got relaunched.

[CConn]

Should I skip checking out Bendis' Powers relaunch?

[Galact-Gal]

Thomas Jefferson and Lord Horatio Nelson, just off the top of my head.


Didn't Lord Nelson have an affair with a married woman? Lady Emma Hamilton, I think.

[Ace of Knaves]

Lord Nelson was the Don of the Seas. That was his secret nickname.

[Shockdingo]

I've a question, outside of his involvement in Brand New May, what happens to Brock during the Spider-girl books? All is know is that it seems he lost the symbiote a while back.
Thanks in advance.

[Ace of Knaves]

He's Anti Venom now. Don't know how he got that way... but IMO Anti Venom Brock is 100000x better than Venom Brock. Or Venom anything for that matter.

[Tron Bonne]

That's in the 616 universe, not Spider-Girl. I'm not even all that sure there's anything said about what happened to Brock in the Spider-Girl books. If there is, I can't remember it anyway

[uchiha_itachi]

Does tony stark have the shrapnel and magnet/power source in his chest anymore?

[TheCorpulent1]

He just got it back in "Stark: Disassembled," the most recent completed arc of Invincible Iron Man. Pepper has one now, too.

[uchiha_itachi]

Ok...two more questions then lol why did he get it back? and how did he get rid of it the first place?

[Havok83]

He just got it back in "Stark: Disassembled," the most recent completed arc of Invincible Iron Man. Pepper has one now, too.
Ive seen pictures of her. What is she now, Iron Woman? Why does she even have an armor suit?

[TheCorpulent1]

She's called Rescue, actually. Her suit is entirely defensive--sort of the opposite of War Machine, with Iron Man's suit in the middle. Not sure why she got it in the first place, though. I only read one arc of Invincible Iron Man.
Ok...two more questions then lol why did he get it back? and how did he get rid of it the first place?
I've pretty much only read "Stark: Disassembled," so I don't know when Tony lost it. He got it back, if I recall correctly, as a means of helping his body cope with how Extremis had screwed up his insides.

[Ace of Knaves]

Tony left it for her because he knew Osborne and HAMMER would eventually come for her. And also because he was running, well flying, HAR HAR, around the world deleting his brain he couldn't really keep up the traditional hero thing.

[TheCorpulent1]

Why'd Pepper need an arc reactor installed in her chest?

[Ace of Knaves]

That, I do not know :D

Actually wait, I think she got injured somehow too. Might wanna wiki it or something.

Edit: Yea she was injured similar to Tony when Ezekiel Stane blew up a Stark party in Taipei. She got shrapnel in her chest, damage to pretty much every organ and partial deafness.

She gets a super magnet first similar to the one in the movie. Then she has upgrades and what not. Pepper is thankful her life is saved but is worried she is being turned into a cyborg and losing her humanity.

It then turns out it wasn't Stark tech at all. It is Rand tech and isn't weapon based, which comforts her.

[Vartha]

I don't recall either missing one or two issues where Potters got the Arc Reactor.
I can't remember the exact details on Tony having it removed before.

[TheCorpulent1]

Whoa, what? Iron Fist's company makes arc reactors, too? :huh:

[Ace of Knaves]

It's not actually a arc reactor. Well the first one she had wasn't. It was just a super electro magnet thingy.

[TheCorpulent1]

And now Tony has that one? 'Cause he got a transplant from Pepper in "Stark: Disassembled," right?

[uchiha_itachi]

Im surprised no one knows how stark got rid of his one lol

[WolfCypher]

He still has the Extremis?

[Anubis]

Nope

[Docker2.0]

I was watching the Kick Ass trailer and I noticed before the movie it has Marv instead of Marvel. Is this considered a Marvel movie or is Marv some kind of inside joke thing?

[Ace of Knaves]

I think it's the name of Vaughn's own studio ting.

Kick Ass is as much a Marvel movie as Constantine and V for Vendetta are DC movies.

[Tron Bonne]

It's based on a comic published under a Marvel imprint, but I'm pretty sure Marvel had nothing to do with the movie adaption either working on it or license wise, since it's creator-owned, and I'm fairly sure it was independently financed.

[Ipodman]

Whats this "MGC" thing im seeing on the marvel website? Apparently it stands for Marvels greatest comics... can someone give me a 30 sec cheat sheet on this thanks

[TheCorpulent1]

"Marvel's Greatest Comics" is just a tagline Marvel uses for reprinting at a $1 price point relatively recent comics that sold a lot in their first printing. It's effectively Marvel's way of trying to sell the same issues twice.

[Tron Bonne]

I think it's basically a rip from DC's 'After Watchmen' idea.

[TheCorpulent1]

Slightly different. DC was trying to capitalize on the popularity of the Watchmen movie. Marvel's trying to capitalize on the popularity of the comcis themselves by just re-releasing the same issues for a couple bucks less. It reeks of cynical commercialism to me, but on the other hand, it does offer people who might've been interested but missed some important issues the first time around another chance to get them--at a discount, no less. Depends on your perspective, I guess.

[Tron Bonne]

I figured they were doing it because Iron Man 2 is coming out pretty soon, too. DC released those $1.00 'After Watchmen' a little before Watchmen came out, too, if I remember correctly.

[TheCorpulent1]

But the MGC prints are not necessarily even connected to Iron Man.

[Tron Bonne]

None of the AW comics were connected to Watchman, except maybe Swamp Thing since it was written by Moore, too. I just assumed it was something for the theoretical people who watched the movie and turned to the comics to hopefully catch them on to the books. Maybe not, but that's what I thought since they were coming out around that time

[MyPokerShirt]

Slightly different. DC was trying to capitalize on the popularity of the Watchmen movie. Marvel's trying to capitalize on the popularity of the comcis themselves by just re-releasing the same issues for a couple bucks less. It reeks of cynical commercialism to me, but on the other hand, it does offer people who might've been interested but missed some important issues the first time around another chance to get them--at a discount, no less. Depends on your perspective, I guess.

Your cynicism is jumping off the screen. I have to reply.

MGC is a reprint of all the number 1 issues of Marvel's highest selling and most critically acclaimed series. 'Number 1' meaning 'first issue' here. I don't think any more have been announced. It's a great idea to get people reading their best books. They'll be making next-to-no money off the issues themselves as they're selling them for $1 each. $1!!!! It surprises me people find something to complain about this when usually I hear how great Vertigo and DC etc are for releasing cheap first issues of their books.:huh::huh:

[TheCorpulent1]

I said that in my post. :huh:

[uchiha_itachi]

Couple of questions....I'm reading Invincible Ironman vol1 atm

Why does Namor hate Ironman? I thought they where both good guys?

Does this take place after one more day? Tony doesn't know who spider-man is? but he knows Peter Parker as he worked at Start Industries? as what?

[Ace of Knaves]

Peter worked with Tony in the run up to Civil War.

And I think Namor hates Tony because of the whole Illuminati **** storm.

[TheCorpulent1]

Tony also kind of got Atlantis destroyed.

[Ace of Knaves]

He did? When?

[TheCorpulent1]

A Sub-Mariner mini-series from a couple years ago. It wasn't technically Iron Man's fault. There was an Atlantean terrorist attack on US soil, so the government sent Iron Man to deal with Namor. He shows up in a sub outside of Atlantis and takes a very aggressive negotiating stance. Namor, meanwhile, discovers that the terrorist attacks were masterminded by his own illegitimate son Kamar. I can't remember many of the details beyond that, but for some reason or other, things escalate, Namor evacuates Atlantis, and Nitro (the Atlanteans had imprisoned him after Civil War) explodes, destroying Atlantis and Kamar, whom Namor purposefully left in the city.

[Ace of Knaves]

Ahhh yea i think i remember hearing/reading about that now. Nitro is such a prick! lol

[TheCorpulent1]

It was a pretty good mini. I liked it, even though I can't remember much of it.

[Anubis]

Yeah it was pretty good.

Also Namor doesn't like anybody except Sue Storm and Captain America. Guys a bit of a prick you see.

[uchiha_itachi]

Thanks for the answers.

On an unrelated note....What's Mister sinister up to these days?

[uchiha_itachi]

Thanks for the answers.

On an unrelated note....What's Mister sinister up to these days?

[Manic]

On an unrelated note....What's Mister sinister up to these days?

Being a woman.
Seriously. Mr. Sinister was killed a while back, and his female clone recently surfaced. She's not a mad scientist and she doesn't have his memories, but she looks like him. She hasn't really done much of anything, though.


I have a question. I just started reading Necrosha, and it looked like Cypher opened an electronically locked door just by reading its code. Does he possess techno-pathic powers now?

[Iron Man]

Nope, his powers just work on a different level now. Basically, he used to be able to be able to read and translate all forms of languages but now he can read and translate anything and everything. Wikipedia can explain it better than I can:

Since his resurrection by Selene's use of a modified techno-organic virus, Cypher's powers have evolved to the point where can read all aspects of "language." He is able to read his opponents' body language and the patterns of their combat moves in order to counter the attacks of several opponents attacking him at once. By considering the exercise of combat skills to be a form of language, he proved a match for the entire New Mutant team. He is able to "read" architectural structure and integrity in order to ascertain a building's weaknesses.

My question: are the Ultimate Avengers films good?

[TheCorpulent1]

What a silly excuse to give Cypher a crapload of new powers. :facepalm:

[Phaedrus45]

I think in the last three Marvel Previews, I haven't seen Dan Slott's name attatched to any comics. Anyone know what's up?? Three months without a Dan comic seems like a long time.

[TheCorpulent1]

He mentioned in an interview (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25973) that he's got something big in the pipeline, but it won't be released for a while.

With “Mighty Avengers” coming to an end, what's next for Dan Slott? Any upcoming projects that you can hint, tease, or talk about?

I'll have a story in all four issues of the upcoming “Age of Heroes” anthology, but I'm telling very, very, very short stories. These are one-pagers, modern day versions of Hostess Fruit Pie ads [laughs]. You're getting a six-to-nine-panel story on one page, but important things will happen in these stories. They'll have some things to say about this new Heroic Age. I've also got a one-shot coming up. I believe it will hit October, and it should be announced very soon.

So I'm off the grid for a little bit, but that doesn't mean I'm not working. In fact I think I’m working harder than ever now! The next step for me is huge, probably my biggest challenge in comics to date! There’ll probably be announcement about it around the time of [Comic-Con International in] San Diego. And when you hear about it, then you’ll know why I’m so pumped for this!

[Phaedrus45]

I remember on these boards that Dan mentioned he had an event planned for the future, I think...and, that he'd been setting up these things in his various books for quite a while. Maybe Marvel is letting him have everything up and ready before they do it.

[TheCorpulent1]

Could be. I guess we'll find out sometime in July (i.e. around Comic-Con time).

[uchiha_itachi]

If i wana read up on Thors death i gotta read avengers dissasembled right? then his return is covered in fantastic four civil war then the new thor series?

[Anubis]

Yeah, not sure about the FF civil war thing though. All I know is it has the misleading cover of Doom holding the hammer.

[uchiha_itachi]

Ah ok. I saw panels from FF showing the hammer coming back to earth and Blake picking it up. I assumed that was during civil war. Ill check it later cos I've got it on my shelve.

[Havok83]

What a silly excuse to give Cypher a crapload of new powers. :facepalm:
They didnt really give him a crapload of new powers. He's using his pre-existing power in new ways. He's never really done so offensively. He was able to read body language back in the original New Mutant days. He didnt know he was a mutant for long before he was killed. His powers were in their nascent levels and he had little experience. They brought him back in Necrosha at the levels he most likely would have been at had he not died so young and his powers were allowed to mature and evolve.

[TheCorpulent1]

Meh, I still like Cypher as a good kid with a mostly useless power. Turning it into something halfway toward the Taskmaster's power irks me.
If i wana read up on Thors death i gotta read avengers dissasembled right? then his return is covered in fantastic four civil war then the new thor series?
Avengers Disassembled: Thor covers Thor's death and Thor by J. Michael Straczynski vol. 1 covers his return. The FF arc doesn't really have much to do with Thor. Mjolnir apparently tore through some dimensions after the events of Avengers Disassembled: Thor before making its way back to Earth and landing in a field in Oklahoma. Doctor Doom and the FF fight over it before a mysterious stranger touches it and both he and the hammer vanish in an enormous bolt of lightning. The mysterious stranger bit is recapped in JMS' Thor, too. I mean, if you're really anxious to see Doctor Doom fail miserably at trying to lift Mjolnir, by all means, check out the FF arc. It's not necessary at all if you're looking to read about Thor's death and return, though.

[uchiha_itachi]

I kinda wanna start reading some FF to though and thought that might be a place to start. Do you know what the volume or story arc is for it?

[NightBeetle]

I kinda wanna start reading some FF to though and thought that might be a place to start. Do you know what the volume or story arc is for it?


Waid and Wieringo's Fantastic Four Vol. 1 (http://www.amazon.com/Fantastic-Four-Vol-Mark-Waid/dp/0785114866/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272643475&sr=8-1)

[Anubis]

Also, just a plain old awesome run in and of itself.

[TheCorpulent1]

The Doom/Mjolnir story was in Fantastic Four #536-537. I don't think it's collected in any trades, unfortunately.

Personally, I'd recommend picking up Hickman's current run, which started in FF #570. If you want older stuff, Waid's run from a few years ago is amazing and I think it's all collected in trades now.

[Anubis]

Yeah, and I'm pretty sure the whole Doom Thor thing was during JMS' less than stellar run on the FF, but then again, following Waid and Wringo is a tough task short of Morrison on mushrooms and Mescaline.

[TheCorpulent1]

Hickman's run is the first time since Waid left that I feel genuinely interested in the FF again.

[Franklin Richards]

If you want to go a little Older School and don't want to read the Lee/Kirby stuff, I'd suggest Fantastic Four Visionaries : John Byrne Vol. 1 (http://www.amazon.com/Fantastic-Four-Visionaries-John-Byrne/dp/0785107797/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272644588&sr=1-1).


It's the first of his long and winning run on the mag. Great stuff from the 80's and the FF I grew up on for the most part.


:ff: :ff: :ff:

[uchiha_itachi]

Ill check those out guys, Thanks!!

[Artistsean]

Why is it called the Marvel 616 Universe? Why not Universe 1, or Universe B? Or the Mongooses? The Flying Mongooses, now thats a good name...
Seriously though, why 616?

[Manic]

I don't know for sure, but I heard a rumor that they named it the 616 Universe as a silly response to DC naming their main universe Earth-1.

[Artistsean]

If that is true that is so awesome. I love it.

[Anubis]

Alan Moore came up with the number during his Captain Britain run. He says he chose a random number to truly show that Marvel Earth is just another Earth in a sea of many. But It was mostly a jab at the heads of marvel because 616 is the number of the beast. (Not 666 like most people mistakenly believe. )

[Specter313]

I remember on these boards that Dan mentioned he had an event planned for the future, I think...and, that he'd been setting up these things in his various books for quite a while. Maybe Marvel is letting him have everything up and ready before they do it.

Could be. I guess we'll find out sometime in July (i.e. around Comic-Con time).

Could he be finally working on that one story we saw him hinting at in stuff like She-Hulk that involved the Watchers? I can't remember what people were calling it, but it was some kind of cosmic kind of battle.

[DawnWarrior]

Alan Moore came up with the number during his Captain Britain run. He says he chose a random number to truly show that Marvel Earth is just another Earth in a sea of many. But It was mostly a jab at the heads of marvel because 616 is the number of the beast. (Not 666 like most people mistakenly believe. )
I heard the 616 was believed to be pulled out from FF #1, from June 1961 or thereabouts. Even if that's not the case (it probably isn't), I think a lot of the other alternate marvel earths are named this wya.

[uchiha_itachi]

I just saw a pic in the thor thread of a thor-hulk? i guess thats from hulked out heroes or whatever it is.

Thats not in continuity is it?

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah, it technically is.

[uchiha_itachi]

but but.......WHHHHHHHHHHHHHY?!?!?!? how the hell does that even fit in??

[Tron Bonne]

No idea. It's basically part of Loeb's Hulk stuff, which is more or less off doing its own thing, but it still is considered in the main universe continuity as far as I'm aware

[Iron Man]

Are the Ultimate Avengers films any good?

[uchiha_itachi]

Stupid Loeb. Thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard, hulking out loads of super heroes.

the Ultimate avenger films i think are wicked.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm not a fan of them, but I hate most Ultimate stuff so I admit I'm biased.

[Ace of Knaves]

Wha...? Hulked out Heroes is in continuity?!?!

Please Loeb, be gone with yourself you silly man. I have sympathy for what happened to him, but seriously... be gone.

[Tron Bonne]

Is there a reason HOH wouldn't be in continuity? It's just part of Loeb's Hulk run, which is in continuity as far as I know

[Manic]

Nothing Loeb writes should be in continuity.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea i'm not disagreeing with you because i don't know myself.

I probably wouldn't mind if it was just some little event outside of continuity purely for the yuks.

[uchiha_itachi]

Is there a reason HOH wouldn't be in continuity? It's just part of Loeb's Hulk run, which is in continuity as far as I know

Because Hulking out Thor Cap and Wolverine is fun yes. But hulking out Thor Cap and Wolverine in the Main MU is stupid and epically idiotic.

[Tron Bonne]

Well, actually I think it's all really stupid in or out of continuity, but stupidity doesn't mean it's not automatically out of continuity. We all wish it would, of course, but you know, unless there's an actual reason to believe otherwise, it is :)

[TheCorpulent1]

It will not be in continuity for me because I will not be reading it. If I don't know about it, it didn't happen! :argh:

[Matt Mortem]

So is it true that Moon Knight is going to be one of the Secret Avengers?

[TheCorpulent1]

Yep.

[uchiha_itachi]

Its also 100% out of continuity for me also. Its a shame cos hulk is on my marvel catch up list.

[Rain]

Is Nextwave any good ?

[Anubis]

Depends entirely upon how you feel about the characters that are in Nextwave. If you never heard of them or cared about them, then you'll likely love it. Otherwise, you'll fume.

[Manic]

Even if you care about the characters in Nextwave, it's fun as long as you view it as a wacky alternate universe (which was what Ellis said it was).

[Anubis]

Except it wasn't.

[Manic]

At the very least, the Monica in Nextwave was confirmed to be from an alternate universe by Dan Slott in a She-Hulk comic.

[Anubis]

Then I guess that means that the Monica that was in Black Panther was from an alternate universe cuz she was totally Nextwave Monica.....but she wasn't.

[TheCorpulent1]

Machine Man has consistently been shown in his Nextwave costume with his retarded Nextwave personality ever since that plague on humanity the series ended.

I really wish they'd just left it out of continuity. It was never funny, given that its jokes consisted mostly of stuff like pointing out the fact that Fin Fang Foom wears little purple pants, but at least it wouldn't have done so much damage to all of the characters involved.

[Manic]

It was worth it just for Dirk Anger, their insane Nick Fury parody.

http://www.numutant.net/dirkangerspeech-1.jpg
http://www.numutant.net/dirkangerspeech-2.jpg

[Ace of Knaves]

hehehe what does H.A.T.E stand for?

[TheCorpulent1]

As with pretty much everything, The Venture Bros. did it better:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Bbtits.jpg

[Ace of Knaves]

Dr Henry Killinger is my fave :awesome:

[uchiha_itachi]

what's next wave? i looked it up but got nothing.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's a comedy series that Warren Ellis wrote for Marvel.

[Tron Bonne]

hehehe what does H.A.T.E stand for?

Highest Anti-Terrorism Effort

[Shockdingo]

"Have the rest buried in Jersey" lol, that's the just a great couple of panels.

[Iron Man]

Can anyone give me a rundown of this Noh-Varr character that's joining the Avengers?

[Anubis]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noh-Varr

[uchiha_itachi]

Same one that joined Dark avengers right?

[Anubis]

Yeah.

[Docker2.0]

What's the story of the Stan Lee Imagined Wonder Woman? I goggled that crap and can find nothing on this story.

[Anubis]

Does it really matter? All that just Imagine Stan Lee stuff was s**t.

[uchiha_itachi]

What's Galactus up to?

[Anubis]

Dying I believe.

[Aesop Rocks]

Who the **** is this guy and what's so damn special about him?! :cmad:

http://i44.tinypic.com/24pf9dt.jpg

[Anubis]

He's one of the new recruits in Avengers Academy and his power is being bullet proof, strong, and ugly.

[NightBeetle]

And he also looks like Red Skull on steroids.:o

[Aesop Rocks]

So he's a red Luke Cage?

[NightBeetle]

Pretty much

[uchiha_itachi]

Dying I believe.

Really? what book is that happening in?

[Anubis]

Well, last I saw of him was that Beta Ray Bill mini God Hunter I believe the name was, and Bill tried to starve his ass, which was working pretty well due to his already messed up.....whatever passes for a digestive system with this guy due to what went down in the first Annihilation mini. So, I'd start there, and I believe he'll show up again in the FF, most likely sometime after the whole return of Annihilus arc they're currently doing.

[uchiha_itachi]

Cheers buddy. I'm catching up with the galactic marvel and ff soon so I guess I'll come across it.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, last I saw of him was that Beta Ray Bill mini God Hunter I believe the name was, and Bill tried to starve his ass, which was working pretty well due to his already messed up.....whatever passes for a digestive system with this guy due to what went down in the first Annihilation mini. So, I'd start there, and I believe he'll show up again in the FF, most likely sometime after the whole return of Annihilus arc they're currently doing.
I think he appeared in Son of Hulk after that, but I don't know what happened there because I didn't read Son of Hulk after Skaar left.
So he's a red Luke Cage?
Only if he jive talks and is prone to losing his shirt as well, turkey. :o

[Aesop Rocks]

You....You just...you just called me a turkey. :csad:

[TheCorpulent1]

Damn straight.

[uchiha_itachi]

Loosely related....£16 for an almost complete run of sensational she hulk? 39 comics, only missing number 38? worth it?

[KevanG]

If Scott Summers (Cyclops from the X-men) parents hadn't have died like they did and kept having kids, would they eventually give birth to God or something? I mean look at the rate of power increase for the kids, Cyclops, Havok, (did they ever verify if Adam the X-Treme was a summers kid?), Vulcan. If they did the 18 is enough thing (or whatever that show is called) then I imagine that they'd be destroying/warping reality every few minutes :p

[TheCorpulent1]

Loosely related....£16 for an almost complete run of sensational she hulk? 39 comics, only missing number 38? worth it?
If the name in the writer slot on those She-Hulk comics is "Dan Slott," then that's a very enthusiastic "yes."

[uchiha_itachi]

It's John Bryne?

[Specter313]

If Scott Summers (Cyclops from the X-men) parents hadn't have died like they did and kept having kids, would they eventually give birth to God or something? I mean look at the rate of power increase for the kids, Cyclops, Havok, (did they ever verify if Adam the X-Treme was a summers kid?), Vulcan. If they did the 18 is enough thing (or whatever that show is called) then I imagine that they'd be destroying/warping reality every few minutes :p

If he is, he's gonna have to be a test tube baby, because Katherine was already pregnant with Vulcan when they were abducted. So no, Adam is not a Summers.

[uchiha_itachi]

I thought Vulcan was half Shi'ar?

[Manic]

When Christopher and Katherine Summers were kidnapped and taken to space, Katherine was already pregnant with Gabriel/Vulcan. D'Ken (or some other Shi'ar douche. They all look alike) ripped him out of the womb, killing Katherine.

Vulcan is 100% human. He only took control of the Shi'ar Empire because when D'Ken came out of his coma and usurped the throne from Lilandra, he tried to make up for enslaving Gabriel by officially making him a part of the family. Then Gabriel, now a member of the royal family, killed D'Ken. With Lilandra outcast and Deathbird officially removed from the line of succession, Gabriel immediately took the throne. And for some insane ****ing reason, nobody in the Shi'ar government objected.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm pretty sure Gabriel's craziness is why no one objected. He's an omega-level mutant and he's bats*** insane. Would you stick your neck out to try and build support to oust him if you were a Shi'ar senator or whatever kind of government official they have?

[Manic]

Since when does the Shi'ar government have that kind of sense? Their idea of handling the Phoenix Force is to further antagonize its hosts.

"The Phoenix is too powerful to live! What shall we do?"

"Well, we could kill every member of the Grey and Rook'shir families, with the exception of one kid from each line who would surely want to take out their revenge and anger on us. In fact, let's give Korvus Rook'shir his grandfather's giant Phoenix-empowered sword. Oh, and just because we're not big enough idiots, let's resurrect Jean Grey's corpse so we can kill her again."



"Some mutant is usurping the throne from the royal Neremani family. What shall we do?"

"Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown."

[Anubis]

Lol

[DawnWarrior]

So now that Osborn is defeated and the heroes are back on top........did we ever learn what H.A.M.M.E.R. stood for?

[Specter313]

Nope, still a mystery as far as I know.

[Tron Bonne]

It's John Bryne?

Less enthusiastic, but still probably a yes.

So now that Osborn is defeated and the heroes are back on top........did we ever learn what H.A.M.M.E.R. stood for?

Having A M&M, Even Reds!

Seriously, I'm pretty sure Norman said it doesn't mean anything

[TheCorpulent1]

I wonder if Cap's reinstating SHIELD or if he's just dispensing with the overarching, human-based law enforcement agency and simply using superhero teams for everything. So far, his only confirmed "employees" beyond the heroes on the teams are Diamondback, who's in charge of the volunteer-based successor to the 50 State Initiative, and Hand, Carter, and Hill, who are in charge of the various Avengers teams.

[Ipodman]

Why is Fantastic Four so quiet?

I mean... Spidey and Wolvy is jamming with the Avengers... (which there are THREE now...), Hulk is having his own circus of red green, male and female versions... the X-men has ALOT going on with vampires and stuff...

I have always assumed FF was one of the 'main' series of Marvel, so Why is Fantastic Four so quiet? Or am i missing something....

[Franklin Richards]

You're missing something.


The FF have been exploring and keeping their storyline contained in their own book. Something everyone always complains about not being enough of.


Hickman and Eaglesham have been telling good stories so far. No "battles for battles sake" or anything like that.

Their first arc just went into trades. Pick that up and then catch the Prime Elements arc.



:ff: :ff: :ff:

[Manic]

That's the thing about the Fan4. They're a team of 4 people. They can't have 2 or 3 titles to crossover with one another like the Avengers or X-Men. They can't have people like Spider-Man or one of the X-Men join the team because we all throw a fit whenever one or more of the characters gets temporarily replaced.

All they've got are good, quality stories. You know, what other Marvel titles would have if they weren't trying so hard to come up with crossovers instead.

[uchiha_itachi]

Does Rogue still have her tattoo's?

[Ipodman]

You're missing something.


The FF have been exploring and keeping their storyline contained in their own book. Something everyone always complains about not being enough of.


Hickman and Eaglesham have been telling good stories so far. No "battles for battles sake" or anything like that.

Their first arc just went into trades. Pick that up and then catch the Prime Elements arc.



:ff: :ff: :ff:

That's the thing about the Fan4. They're a team of 4 people. They can't have 2 or 3 titles to crossover with one another like the Avengers or X-Men. They can't have people like Spider-Man or one of the X-Men join the team because we all throw a fit whenever one or more of the characters gets temporarily replaced.

All they've got are good, quality stories. You know, what other Marvel titles would have if they weren't trying so hard to come up with crossovers instead.

Thanks. I guess FF is for those fans who want a good matured story.

I'll be more open minded next time :yay:

[TheCorpulent1]

The FF could still maintain a bit more of a presence in the universe. They were entirely absent from Siege and most of the Dark Reign stuff (Mighty Avengers being the notable exception). For all the damage Civil War did to Reed, at least he was taking an active part in the rest of the Marvel universe. I don't need to see the FF appear everywhere, but a happy medium between that and the relative disconnection of the past year or so would be nice.

Granted, we already seem to be getting that with Ben joining the New Avengers, even though I don't personally read New Avengers.

[Franklin Richards]

Maybe we'll get some more proof of Ben's str class going up. Having Initiative and New touting him as class 100 now would make me feel better about it.


:thing: :thing: :thing:

[uchiha_itachi]

There's a guy that looks like Reed in X-men..Part of the group with Doctor Nemesis. Is that Reed?

[Manic]

That's Madison Jeffries, the second Box from Alpha Flight. He's a technopath.

[Piz]

This is probably a really really stupid question, but it's something that I've wondered...

What would happen if Rogue touched Sister Nil? Would they both die???

[DawnWarrior]

That's Madison Jeffries, the second Box from Alpha Flight. He's a technopath.Good lord, every time I see those guys I'm like "wait, who are they again? Oh yeah, they're like Beast's team of super-geniuses or something. What were they doing again? Something about time travel I guess. Who's the guy in the white coat again? What's this all about? What am I doing here?" And on it goes.

[Manic]

This is probably a really really stupid question, but it's something that I've wondered...

What would happen if Rogue touched Sister Nil? Would they both die???

I imagine just Rogue would die. Her power absorbs the lifeforce of other people, not kill them with a touch. Also, I don't even think Rogue has managed to kill anyone with her powers yet. She's created a few comas, but that's about it, I think.

Good lord, every time I see those guys I'm like "wait, who are they again? Oh yeah, they're like Beast's team of super-geniuses or something. What were they doing again? Something about time travel I guess. Who's the guy in the white coat again? What's this all about? What am I doing here?" And on it goes.
Just remember:

Looks like Reed Richards in a puffy jacket = Madison Jeffries, weird and talks to machines.

All-White outfit and hat = Dr. Nemesis, mad scientist who helped create the original Human Torch android and hunts Nazis

Woman = Dr. Kavita Rao, the woman who created the mutant cure.

Old and Japanese = Dr. Yuriko Takiguchi, old scientist who used to experiment on Godzilla (I'm serious). Currently dead.

[TheCorpulent1]

Dr. Nemesis is still hunting Nazis? Does he know it's not the 1940s anymore?

[Anubis]

Well, I'm sure a few super Nazi's running around, and of course, you got the Neo Nazi's, but they're mostly harmless, cowardly, douche bags who only saw the first five minutes of American History X.

[TheCorpulent1]

Who watches American History X and comes away going, "Yeah, motherf***er, I want to curb-stomp some minorities!" :facepalm:

[Drz]

What happened to Captain America White project? I need more Tim Sale! :(

[Manic]

Dr. Nemesis is still hunting Nazis? Does he know it's not the 1940s anymore?

Well, I'm sure a few super Nazi's running around, and of course, you got the Neo Nazi's, but they're mostly harmless, cowardly, douche bags who only saw the first five minutes of American History X.

Actually, Anubis is sorta right. When Beast and Archangel recruited Dr. Nemesis, he was in the middle of getting attacked by some Super-Nazis. I don't know where they came from or why they looked younger than 90 years old, but the introduction of Dr. Nemesis was too awesome to hate or complain about.

[uchiha_itachi]

What arc was that? That Dr.nemesis is to cool, I'd love to read his introduction.

[Manic]

If you're looking for the trade paperback, it's the "Lovelorn" trade of Uncanny X-Men. The story of Beast & Archangel recruiting the mad scientists in the X-Club is intercut with Colossus' story about getting revenge on the man who killed his father.

I kid you not, there's a scene where they fight a giant monster that resembles but is legally distinct from Godzilla.

[uchiha_itachi]

Damn, I've already got that but haven't got round to reading it yet. I'll be reading that before bed!! :D

[uchiha_itachi]

What are the most famous/common Marvel locations? Like for example: Asteroid M?

I'm trying to think of a cool name for a comic shop..

[Manic]

Try this:

http://marvel.wikia.com/Category:Bases

[uchiha_itachi]

Nice one!!

[uchiha_itachi]

best name out of there was Asteroid M though lol Is their a listing for places like the savage land and Genosha?

[Shockdingo]

Dr. Nemesis? That's such an awesome name. I was looking at an X-Force issue a bit back and was wondering who the awesome dude in all white (wanting to shoot "the werewolves") was. Is he a human, or does he have some abilities of note?

[Manic]

He's a mutant, though I'm not really sure what his powers are. We do know that he's just over 100 years old, though. He was born just after the turn of the century, and he was active during World War II. In fact, he's an old Golden Age character Matt Fraction dug up from Marvel's catelogue.

When he goes into a fight, he carries two guns that fire syringes full of godknowswhat.

[uchiha_itachi]

Ones a truth serum apparently. Knocks them out and makes them spill the beans.

Also his powers are a self-evolving intellect and something else that i forgot.

( I really wanna change my name to Dr.Nemesis lol )

[Jordacar]

so where did Dr. Nemesis appear originally?

[uchiha_itachi]

He re-appeared in uncanny x-men. He's been around for ages. He helped co-create/build the first Human Torch.

[Manic]

According to this site (http://marvel.wikia.com/Dr._Death), the character was originally created in Lightning Comics #6 back in 1941. He was introduced to Marvel Comics as the villainous Dr. Death in Invaders #1 in 1993, but Matt Fraction and the rest of the X-writers seem to be ignoring that retcon in favor of his old crimefighting Dr. Nemesis persona from the 40's.

[uchiha_itachi]

Didn't they say he was undercover or something?

[uchiha_itachi]

I was looking on IGN and came across this.

WOMEN OF MARVEL: CELEBRATING SEVEN DECADES OMNIBUS HC FRADON COVER (DM ONLY)

What is DM only??

[Saved]

When did Maria Hill and Steve Rogers make up? Cause, if anyone remembers Civil War issue 2, they were at each others throats and now I'm seeing Steve and Maria pallin' around like everything's fine.

[TheCorpulent1]

Presumably he's cool with her for the same reason he's cool with Iron Man: they both stepped up and did the right thing in Siege. They put whatever issues they had aside and helped fight one of the greatest evils the world has ever seen. That's pretty much all Cap wanted in Civil War: for superhumans to have the choice to be heroes rather than being drafted as soon as they reveal they have powers.
He's a mutant, though I'm not really sure what his powers are. We do know that he's just over 100 years old, though. He was born just after the turn of the century, and he was active during World War II. In fact, he's an old Golden Age character Matt Fraction dug up from Marvel's catelogue.

When he goes into a fight, he carries two guns that fire syringes full of godknowswhat.
God, that is so vastly superior to a normal gun. I wish we could get an executive order banning normal firearms from superheroes' hands (except the Punisher, who's not really a superhero anyway) so that creators would have to come up with awesome s*** like that more often. The Black Widow should actually use her wrist-mounted dart-shooters and Bucky should have like the mother of all tasers instead of a stupid Luger and stuff like that.

[KevanG]

Just seeing the "the mother of all tasers" line makes me think of Strykers fatality from Mortal Kombat.

[uchiha_itachi]

So, Nathaniel Richards in Kang and Immortus?? how does that work?

[Anubis]

Where did you get that from? Is Bendis making s**t up again?!?

[TheCorpulent1]

I believe it was rumored at one point that Kang was Nathaniel Richards, as in Reed's daddy. But I think it was debunked. Right now I'm pretty he's a descendant of the Richards and Doom lines who just happens to be named Nathaniel, possibly in honor of Reed's daddy. Not 100% sure, though.

[Anubis]

I was about to say, cuz that got debunked years ago.

[Manic]

Isn't Iron Lad really Nathaniel Richards, and Kang acknowledged that they were the same guy during Young Avengers?

[Anubis]

No.

[TheCorpulent1]

Look, dudesies, Kang's real name is Nathaniel Richards, but he's not Reed's dad. There is more than one Nathaniel Richards in the Marvel universe. One is a time-traveling golden oldie and all-around chick magnet, the other is a time-traveling psychopath and all-around douchebag. Kang becomes Immortus when he gets old, not Reed's dad.

[Manic]

Is Reed's dad also named Nathaniel? I was talking about the Nathaniel from the future.

[TheCorpulent1]

Both Nathaniels are from the future. Reed's dad is a time traveler as well. And as Cable and Mr. Sinister can attest, "Nathaniel" is the name of choice for the time-traveling elite. :o

[Manic]

Ick. Cable should change his name back to Christopher. That's too many time traveling Nates for one universe.

[Anubis]

Immortus is Kang.....kinda. Immortus kinda was ripped out of him by the Time Sisters or whatever their name is in Avengers Forever.

[TheCorpulent1]

Sadly, I don't think that counts anymore. Kang said in Avengers #1 that the Next Avengers represent the end of his timeline, meaning their murder of Immortus = the death of Kang, meaning Kang and Immortus are one and the same again. :csad:
Ick. Cable should change his name back to Christopher. That's too many time traveling Nates for one universe.
It's still one of his names. Isn't his full name Nathan Christopher Dayspring Summers Askani'son or something equally ridiculous?

[Manic]

I think it's Nathan Christopher Summers by birth, Nathan Christopher Dayspring by adoption, and The Askani'son by title.

But before The Inferno and the retcon that tied Cable to Scott's baby, I think the baby's name was supposed to be Christopher Charles Summers. Then Maddy started calling him Nathan, and blah blah blah, retcon, blah blah blah, Mr. Sinister, blah.

[TheCorpulent1]

As usual, it's best not to think too hard about Cable's past. On one hand, it's appropriate for a time traveler to have a confusing backstory. On the other, it's just annoying.

[Manic]

Cable's backstory is still easier than Rachel Summers', though. That one involves time travel, an alternate universe, and the Phoenix Force.

[TheCorpulent1]

Which is why I generally don't like Rachel. :)

[DawnWarrior]

If you look through the Future History: Messiah War Sourcebook, which Cable narrates, there's a lot of, "I don't remember the details," or "he crossed dimensions or something." There's stuff in Cable's backstory even Cable can't understand.

[Manic]

Which is why I generally don't like Rachel. :)

I like Rachel. She just has one character trait that she needs to drop, and that's the way she transfers her feelings for her late parents onto the Scott and Jean of the 616 universe. She's technically from the future of a different universe, and her real mom turned into the Phoenix without ever going Dark. Yet here she is, whining about her dead mom because the (possibly inferior) 616 version of Jean is gone.

Whiny brat. She should've joined the Exiles instead of Psylocke, so she'd be forced to accept that alternate versions of her parents are not her parents.

[Anubis]

So, essentially she's an alternate universe version of Cable?

[Franklin Richards]

No. Cable is an alternate universe version of her.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Johnny Drama]

Does Venom's symbiote have ressurecting properties, like could it bond to a dead body and use that as a host?

[Anubis]

*siiiiggggghhhhhh*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/facepalm_statue.jpg

[Franklin Richards]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/986m37.jpg

:doom: :doom: :doom:

[Manic]

So, essentially she's an alternate universe version of Cable?

No. Cable is an alternate universe version of her.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

1. Rachel came first. She was around before Baby Christopher, she was around before Cable, and she was around long before Nathan-Christopher and Cable were revealed to be the same person. She is the original time-traveling Summers kid.

2. The characters are so radically different, they're not alternates to one another at all. They fill the same role in their particular timelines as the children of Scott and Jean, but saying they're alternates to one another is like saying that 616 Scarlet Witch is an alternate version of Ultimate Quicksilver. They're essentially siblings, only not.

3. According to Chris Claremont, Rachel officially has no alternates in the multiverse. This is complete and utter bull, because Hyperstorm's mother is an alternate version of Rachel and at least 2 other Rachels have been mentioned and/or seen in Exiles-- but according to a comic written by Claremont, the children of Scott and Jean from alternate universes (even those resembling her with her name) are not tied to her in the same way alternates are tied to other characters. Rachel is officially one of a kind in the multiverse (even though she isn't).

[Johnny Drama]

I thought this was the stupid questions thread, haha. I wouldn't have asked it if I didn't think it was a stupid a) question or b) idea

[javi1024]

So, essentially she's an alternate universe version of Cable?
no theyre two separate people. Cable is the son of Scott Summers and Madelyn Pryor (a genetically engineered woman created by Mr. Sinister resembling Jean based off her DNA/ not clone). Rachel is the daughter of Scott Summers and Jean Grey from an alternate future.

like Manic said, theyre more like siblings than alt versions. Cable already has one- X-Man.

[javi1024]

I thought this was the stupid questions thread, haha. I wouldn't have asked it if I didn't think it was a stupid a) question or b) idea
symbiotes need a living host to feed off it like any other parasite. thats where the whole "symbiotic" relationship comes into play. :cwink:

[Anubis]

1. Rachel came first. She was around before Baby Christopher, she was around before Cable, and she was around long before Nathan-Christopher and Cable were revealed to be the same person. She is the original time-traveling Summers kid.

2. The characters are so radically different, they're not alternates to one another at all. They fill the same role in their particular timelines as the children of Scott and Jean, but saying they're alternates to one another is like saying that 616 Scarlet Witch is an alternate version of Ultimate Quicksilver. They're essentially siblings, only not.

3. According to Chris Claremont, Rachel officially has no alternates in the multiverse. This is complete and utter bull, because Hyperstorm's mother is an alternate version of Rachel and at least 2 other Rachels have been mentioned and/or seen in Exiles-- but according to a comic written by Claremont, the children of Scott and Jean from alternate universes (even those resembling her with her name) are not tied to her in the same way alternates are tied to other characters. Rachel is officially one of a kind in the multiverse (even though she isn't).

Ugh, f**kin' X-Men.

[Specter313]

no theyre two separate people. Cable is the son of Scott Summers and Madelyn Pryor (a genetically engineered woman created by Mr. Sinister resembling Jean based off her DNA/ not clone). Rachel is the daughter of Scott Summers and Jean Grey from an alternate future.

like Manic said, theyre more like siblings than alt versions. Cable already has one- X-Man.

And that's a whole other debate. But it's the same as Rachel, at least to me. Cable is the son of Scott and Maddie, X-Man is the son of Scott and Jean. It's like if one guy knocked up a set of twins, they're obviously not going to give birth to the exact same kid.

[Jordacar]

Has Dr. Doom ever done the trick where Human Torch tries to attack him, but Doom just sucks all the oxygen out of the room? I feel like I read that somewhere.

[Anubis]

Johnny's been taken down every possible way you can take a fire dude down. I think BP did that to him.

[Jordacar]

Um, who's BP again?

[Specter313]

Black Panther

[Jordacar]

Right, maybe that's where I read it. Still, it would be such a perfect thing for Doom to do.

[Anubis]

British Petroleum. :o

[KevanG]

Who's the genius who thought Norman Frikkin Osborn, certified crazy man and murderous super-villain, would be the best choice to run SHIELD?

[DawnWarrior]

^Every single person who saw him blow the Skrull Queen's brains out with a giant gun on live TV, thus singlehandedly defeating the Skrulls. That's who.

I think that's literally it.

What issues show J Jonah Jameson as a young man, before he became EIC of the Bugle?

[Jordacar]

I just saw a preview image with Jubilee as a vampire. It was a team shot, but only she was vamped. When did that happen?

[Tron Bonne]

I don't think it's actually happened yet. It's part of an upcoming story arc in the X-stuff involving vampires

[StreetWarrior]

When will Ares be back and is there any place for him as a hero in the "Heroic Age"?

If friggen' Crossbones can be on the Thunderbolts and Wolverine gets a pass to be on the cleanest of all teams (Avengers) why can't the God of War find redemption in the current MU. Maybe he could get a slot on Secret Avengers on down the road. The firepower provided my both Ares AND Warmachine would be orgasmic.

[javi1024]

I just saw a preview image with Jubilee as a vampire. It was a team shot, but only she was vamped. When did that happen?
its a promo for the upcoming first arc of the new "X-Men" (vol 3) book. its pretty much vampires vs. mutants.

[TheCorpulent1]

When will Ares be back and is there any place for him as a hero in the "Heroic Age"?

If friggen' Crossbones can be on the Thunderbolts and Wolverine gets a pass to be on the cleanest of all teams (Avengers) why can't the God of War find redemption in the current MU. Maybe he could get a slot on Secret Avengers on down the road. The firepower provided my both Ares AND Warmachine would be orgasmic.
I don't think Rhodey would want to work with Ares given their encounter during Rhodey's series. But I agree, Ares is awesome and should be brought back eventually. The best way would be for him and Hercules to fight their way back from the underworld together, but it seems Herc's not actually in Hades or Tartarus or wherever he was supposed to go, so that's probably out.

[Anubis]

^Every single person who saw him blow the Skrull Queen's brains out with a giant gun on live TV, thus singlehandedly defeating the Skrulls. That's who.

I think that's literally it.

What issues show J Jonah Jameson as a young man, before he became EIC of the Bugle?


Marvels

[Manic]

I don't think Rhodey would want to work with Ares given their encounter during Rhodey's series. But I agree, Ares is awesome and should be brought back eventually. The best way would be for him and Hercules to fight their way back from the underworld together, but it seems Herc's not actually in Hades or Tartarus or wherever he was supposed to go, so that's probably out.

Maybe Ares can drink from Lethe and come back as a kid.

[TheCorpulent1]

Then he and his son could fight over who's more awesome. :D

[uchiha_itachi]

In uncanny x-men how come ripping the metal skin of a predator x took so much out of magneto?? I thought that was easy for him?

[Manic]

Magneto is old and using artificial powers that are apparently inconsistent.

[uchiha_itachi]

I thought his powers where restored and he felt like a man in his 20's? ( that was said in the issue before the Predator X attacked Utopia.)

[Tron Bonne]

It's really Xorn

[Anubis]

No, no, no. Loki posing as Xorn.

[Manic]

Xorn pretending to be Loki posing as Xorn pretending to be Magneto on drugs.

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah, and it's all caused by a sentiment virus too. And the Marvel Universe is a simulated reality that's causing a cancer like virus to seep into the real world.

[Manic]

And it all takes place inside of Franklin Richards' snow globe.

[Anubis]

Which all takes place in the imagination of an Autistic child named Cody.

[Tron Bonne]

Who is in the process of slamming his head into a mirror screaming 'How's Annie!'

[Manic]

Then Mary-Jane wakes up and finds her husband Peter in the shower, who assures her it was all a dream.

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a pretty good answer to what's happening with Magneto. At least, I'm pretty it makes as much sense as the actual explanation does/will.

[DawnWarrior]

If Chuck Austen and the other writers just took, like, six issues to explain Xorn's new status quo instead of just "oh yeah, the real Xorn's in China right now," then we wouldn't have this problem.

[Anubis]

I think it would have been better if they just said that Xorn didn't exist and was just a cover Mags came up with to infiltrate the X-Men and left it at that. But Chuck f**king Austen.

[Tron Bonne]

God, I wish they would have done that, too. But, no, can't let a popular character be nothing but a disguise, and can't let a crazy zealot be a totally drugged out crazy zealot. ****ing X-Men stuff, ****

[javi1024]

wait i thought Milligan was the one who introduced the "real" Xorn when he wrote his first arc on X-Men?

[Manic]

I prefer Magneto during his lucid moments, so I'm glad the one who trashed Manhattan turned out to really be Xorn.

[Specter313]

wait i thought Milligan was the one who introduced the "real" Xorn when he wrote his first arc on X-Men?

It was Austin who wrote him after the big reboot after Morrison left and Whedon started.

We can also blame Claremont who brought back Magneto in his Genoshan Excalibur series that started at the same time.

[javi1024]

in some other book besides X-men/UXM? cuz Austen left Uncanny and made room for Claremont in 04 for "X-Men Reloaded".

[Specter313]

After the reload, Claremont took over Uncanny and started Genoshan Excalibur, and Austen moved over to the adjectiveless title.

[javi1024]

ok thats right.

[KevanG]

Didn't they come out recently and actually give Magnetos real name as Max something instead of the Eric Lensherr alias he's used?

[Anubis]

Yeah.

[Manic]

Max Eisenhardt or something like that.

[javi1024]

who's responsible for the big Jean/Dark Phoenix retcon? was it Claremont? was it the editors who wanted all the original X-Men when they started X-Factor?

[TheCorpulent1]

Max Eisenhardt or something like that.
Personally, I prefer "Magnus." Names don't come much more badass than that.

[Aesop Rocks]

So I just read Young Avengers 1-12

And Wiccan and Hulking.....you know.......

[TheCorpulent1]

Are great? Yeah, I do know. :awesome:

[Aesop Rocks]

Well besides that.

Are they like, you know, dating?