Warriors Three Cast

[Chewy]

"Thor" helmer Kenneth Branagh has locked Stuart Townsend, Ray Stevenson, and Tadanobu Asano to play Warrior's Three, a trio of Asgardian adventurers who fight alongside the Norse god in the Marvel Entertainment drama.

Anthony Hopkins, Tom Hiddleston and Natalie Portman also star in the pic scripted by Mark Protosevich and Zack Stentz. Paramount Pictures will release "Thor" on May 20, 2011.

Stevenson, who'll next be seen starring with Denzel Washington in "Book of Eli," is currently shooting the Adam McKay-directed "The Other Guys" with Mark Wahlberg and Will Ferrell.SOURCE (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118011442.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)

[Gamma Goliath]

woah......
is that good ?

[Silvermoth]

Quite happy but shouldn't the actor who plays Volstagg be more...well, voluminious?

[Chewy]

The article was deleted....

Weird.
Yeah, for some strange reason Variety seems to have removed the article

It is still linked on their twitter, but the link doesn't work http://twitter.com/Variety

[Changeling]

Sweet, but I'm kinda dissapointed..

[JP]

Side by sides, please. :)

[Chewy]

Side by sides, please.
Thor: Chris Hemsworth
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/654/thorhems.jpg

Jane Foster: Natalie Portman
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5012/janeport.jpg

Loki: Tom Hiddleston
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3390/lokihiddles.jpg

Odin: Anthony Hopkins
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/456/odinhopkins.jpg

Sif: Jaimie Alexander
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3127/sifalexander.jpg

Fandral: Stuart Townsend
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7803/townsendfandrals.jpg

Hogun: Tadanobu Asano
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7066/asanohogun.jpg

Volstagg: Ray Stevenson
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3612/stevensonvolstagg.jpg

Malekith: Colm Feore
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1711/malekithcolm.jpg

Heimdall: Stellan Skarsgård
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5412/heimdallskars.jpg

[Vartha]

nice MAN I can't wait to see everyone in costume!

[JP]

Thor: Chris Hemsworth
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/654/thorhems.jpg

Jane Foster: Natalie Portman
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5012/janeport.jpg

Loki: Tom Hiddleston
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3390/lokihiddles.jpg

Odin: Anthony Hopkins
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/456/odinhopkins.jpg

Sif: Jaimie Alexander
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3127/sifalexander.jpg

Fandral: Stuart Townsend
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7803/townsendfandrals.jpg

Hogun: Tadanobu Asano
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7066/asanohogun.jpg

Volstagg: Ray Stevenson
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3612/stevensonvolstagg.jpg

Malekith: Colm Feore
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1711/malekithcolm.jpg

Heimdall: Stellan Skårsgard
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5412/heimdallskars.jpg

Thanks, as always, Chewy!

[Congo Jack]

Quite happy but shouldn't the actor who plays Volstagg be more...well, voluminious?
I guess Branagh is planning to give Stevenson the Kevin Durand/Blob treatment from WOLVERINE.

[Chewy]

Even though Variety's article was strangely yanked the story is now up on Marvel.com

Are you waiting for the hammer to fall on the big screen (Mjolnir, that is)?! Of course you are and so are we!

When Thor (http://marvel.com/universe/Thor_%28Thor_Odinson%29) makes his big screen debut on May 20, 2011, he'll have some company with him!

Fandral, Hogun and Volstagg, longtime friends and fellow Asgardians who usually work together as a team known as the Warriors Three, are Thor’s allies and companions.

Fandral will be played by Stuart Townsend. The job of Hogun goes to Tadanobu Asano. And Volstagg will be portrayed Ray Stevenson.

They join the previously announced Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Tom Hiddleston as Loki (http://marvel.com/universe/Loki) and Natalie Portman as Jane Foster. Kenneth Branagh will direct.

"Thor" is one of a continuing slate of films being produced by Marvel Studios based on the Marvel characters, including "Iron Man 2 (http://marvel.com/movies/Iron_Man.Iron_Man_2)" on May 7, 2010, "The First Avenger: Captain America" on July 22, 2011 and "The Avengers (http://marvel.com/universe/Avengers)" on May 4, 2012.

Stay tuned to Marvel.com for the official word on all things to do with Marvel movies!SOURCE (http://marvel.com/news/moviestories.10317.Thor_Update%7Ecolon%7E_Warriors _Three_Cast)

[MessiahDecoy123]

great cast!

chris hemsworth is the only questionable link at this point.

[Chewy]

That link is asking me for a password...

funky, funky, but I'll take your word for it :D
That's odd, it works for me

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4932/71669051.jpg

[louiebling$]

I love it.... but Stevenson as Stagg Still gives me a big :huh:

[TheComicbookKid]

None of these really pop out at me. I can't really tell what kind of tone it sets.

[Webhead2006]

well its great to see more of the cast rounded out. Now we just need to know who colm and stellan are and we are good to go.

[Aeltri]

I love it.... but Stevenson as Stagg Still gives me a big :huh:

They are going to need a big fat suit O_o...

[Octoberist]

Stevenson rocks.

[louiebling$]

Don't get me wrong I think Ray is Fantastic but I loved his Punisher/Frank Castle and was wishing to see more of him as PUNISHER.

I just done see Stagg at all... he is very Brooding which is the very opposite of Volstagg and he isn't very Husky like Volstagg not to mention the lack of red hair lol

[hugekent]

Well I like those casting choices. Townsend can pull off that dashing, charming character. I don't know anything of Asano but I'm glad they went with an Asian guy. Stevenson is an odd choice, but I'll reserve judgement until I see where they're going with it.

[Aesop Rocks]

Am I the only one that likes the Odin, Thor and Loki casting? :/

[Keyser Soze]

Don't get me wrong I think Ray is Fantastic but I loved his Punisher/Frank Castle and was wishing to see more of him as PUNISHER.

I just done see Stagg at all... he is very Brooding which is the very opposite of Volstagg and he isn't very Husky like Volstagg not to mention the lack of red hair lol

Remember that, before his character took a serious turn in the second season, he was essentially the comic relief of Rome.

[Mister Sinister]

The best cast Marvel movie ever.

[Ace of Knaves]

Stevenson is a great actor. But Volstagg? Baffles the mind to be honest. But Branagh knows what he is doing.

[Canis Sapiens]

Talk about left field choices... But I lke it!

[R_Hythlodeus]

Didn't know that Townsend was still alive. Last time I saw him (and then immediatly forgot about him) was in LXG.

Never saw Rome except for the first Episode (which sucked), so I can't say anything about Stevenson

And the 3rd one: Never heard of him.

I guess I'll have to wait and see...

[I_am_iron_man]

MMM, Variety and now also Marvel.com shut down the article about Warriors Three. It's kinda strange.

[I_am_iron_man]

http://marvel.com/news/moviestories.10317.Thor_Update~colon~_Warriors_Thr ee_Cast (http://marvel.com/news/moviestories.10317.Thor_Update%7Ecolon%7E_Warriors _Three_Cast)

The Marvel.com article is still up for me!

:)

No to me. When I click on the link, the web site says:

"You most log in to view this story. enter the password here".

Kinda strange because the others articles of Marvel.com don't required password.

[Triad]

Townsend: I can see, Don't know Asano, but Stevenson as Volstagg?! What the #@%?!
* Fingers crossed! *

[Canis Sapiens]

Asano is a fantastic actor. Watch Ichi the Killer or Mongol and you'll get what I'm saying. :up:

[Canis Sapiens]

Oh, and on the second season of Rome, Stevenson's character turned into a kind of comic relief. It worked just fine. So, i think he's gonna be OK as the "beefy warrior with some funny one liners".

[DocHoliday]

Decent choices all of them. Still wondering who is playing Baldur?

[Panthro]

I can work with this line up.

But what about Balder the Brave? Any word on whether or not he's in the film?

[NoirMan82]

Don't get me wrong I think Ray is Fantastic but I loved his Punisher/Frank Castle and was wishing to see more of him as PUNISHER.

I just done see Stagg at all... he is very Brooding which is the very opposite of Volstagg and he isn't very Husky like Volstagg not to mention the lack of red hair lol

Yeah, dude, but this is a MOVIE. A little hair dye, POW! A fake beard, BANG! Some SFX, BOOM! And voila, Ray Stevenson as Volstagg. I'm officially pumped for Thor!

[Chewy]

The article is finally back up on Variety (albeit, it has been rewritten)

“Thor” helmer Kenneth Branagh has locked Stuart Townsend, Ray Stevenson, and Tadanobu Asano to play Warrior’s Three, a trio of Asgardian adventurers who fight alongside the Norse god in the Marvel Entertainment drama.

Townsend, who last wrote and directed “Battle in Seattle,” plays Fandral, a character which was drawn in the comic book series based on Errol Flynn and his movies. Stevenson, the “Rome” star, plays Volstagg the Valiant, a hard-living brawler, a character inspired by Falstaff. Asano, best known for starring in “Mongol,” plays Hogun the Grim, the third warrior and traveling companion of the hammer-swinging Thor, who is played by Chris Hemsworth.

Anthony Hopkins, Tom Hiddleston and Natalie Portman also star in a pic scripted by Mark Protosevich and Zack Stentz. Paramount Pictures releases the film May 20, 2011.

Stevenson, who’ll next be seen starring with Denzel Washington in “Book of Eli,” is currently shooting the Adam McKay-directed “The Other Guys” with Mark Wahlberg and Will Ferrell. He’s repped by WME, Townsend by UTA and Asano by CAA.SOURCE (http://weblogs.variety.com/bfdealmemo/2009/11/thor-gets-his-posse.html)

[Ace of Knaves]

Asano is a fantastic actor. Watch Ichi the Killer or Mongol and you'll get what I'm saying. :up:

Who was he in Ichi the Killer? Ain't seen that for so long.

But I don't recommend that film to anyone of a squeamish disposition. Thoroughly sick and twisted.

[Panthro]

So, any info on whether or not Balder the Brave is in this? Anyone? Anyone?

[Ace of Knaves]

I think he is. He should be.

[Chewy]

I can't imagine why he wouldn't be

[Panthro]

I just haven't heard any casting for him yet.

[Canis Sapiens]

Who was he in Ichi the Killer? Ain't seen that for so long.

But I don't recommend that film to anyone of a squeamish disposition. Thoroughly sick and twisted.

He is Kakihara, the sadomasochistic chief henchman, that, with the rest of his mob goons, go looking for Anjo, the Yakuza boss who disappears with 300 million yen.

And yeah, it's a pretty messed up film. :woot:

[louiebling$]

Decent choices all of them. Still wondering who is playing Baldur?
My fingers are crossed for Cavill to get the job :up:

[Weadazoid]

Stevensen was on Rome HBO right?? Well he is tall, has a booming kinda voice with some make up he very easily pulls this off I imagine.


THe thing that does throw me off a bit is Hoggun being...Asian, I mean yeah he always had the Fu-man-chu Stash going, but I NEVER thought of the Grim on being Asian.

[Canis Sapiens]

He always had a Genghis Khan vibe to me.

[Canis Sapiens]

I think we shouldn't worry about Tadanobu Asano / Hogun's looks:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2wq5utt.jpg


:yay:

[Chewy]

I just haven't heard any casting for him yet.
I imagine he'll be the next casting we hear about

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Not sure about the characters, but Stevenson and Townsend are great actors, so are 2 more excellent additions.

[NoirMan82]

I think we shouldn't worry about Tadanobu Asano / Hogun's looks:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2wq5utt.jpg


:yay:

Fa'sho!:cwink:

[donk70]

What's gonna happen if Volstaggs has to take on The Punisher in The Avengers movie????

[Swordmaster]

I was hoping for BRIAN BLESSED as Volstagg, but Stevenson should do well. Townsend is a very good choice, definitely looks the part, and Asano looks the part as well. Really, with Branagh at the helm, casting is the least of my worries for the film.

[Chewy]

What's gonna happen if Volstaggs has to take on The Punisher in The Avengers movie????
The same thing that will happen when Foggy Nelson gets into a fistfight with Happy Hogan

[Project862006]

if they can turn this
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/4598/johnrhysdavies.jpg

into this
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7073/00028472.jpg
Stevenson can be transformed

[cosmicherosa]

Kenneth Branagh really likes emotional character actors. These signings go along that path.

[Khemik@L]

I think we shouldn't worry about Tadanobu Asano / Hogun's looks:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2wq5utt.jpg


:yay:

Nice Find Dude :up:

[kedrell]

What's gonna happen if Volstaggs has to take on The Punisher in The Avengers movie????

I think only Marvel Studios characters can crossover to be in each other's films. Punisher: War Zone was Lion's Gate so the Punisher is in the same boat with Spidey/FF/X-Men, Ghost Rider....out of luck.

[Watson]

Thor: Chris Hemsworth
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/654/thorhems.jpg

Jane Foster: Natalie Portman
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5012/janeport.jpg

Loki: Tom Hiddleston
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3390/lokihiddles.jpg

Odin: Anthony Hopkins
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/456/odinhopkins.jpg

Sif: Jaimie Alexander
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3127/sifalexander.jpg

Fandral: Stuart Townsend
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7803/townsendfandrals.jpg

Hogun: Tadanobu Asano
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7066/asanohogun.jpg

Volstagg: Ray Stevenson
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3612/stevensonvolstagg.jpg

Malekith: Colm Feore
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1711/malekithcolm.jpg

Heimdall: Stellan Skarsgård
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5412/heimdallskars.jpg


Man is this cast good. Even if the movie sucks (which it won't :fingerscrossed: ) there will be some damn fine acting going on.

[marvelboy10]

the casting feels good

I'm curious about stevenson in volstagg. We'll see...

[kedrell]

I think they'll do with Stevenson/Volstagg what Fox should have done with the Kingpin...get a tall burly guy and put a fat-suit on him. I just hope they don't screw it up like Fox did with Blob in the Wolverine movie. But then I don't know how big the original actor was in that but it was just so obviously a fat-suit. But then that's Fox and they can't avoid sucking if their lives depended on it. I'm sure it'll work well here though.

[Radio_Clash]

Asano! Cool, I'm definitely looking forward to this now.

[Spider-Fan83]

a quick and rather simple manip playing around with the idea of Stevenson as volstagg
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/989/volstaggt.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9964/volstagg.jpg)
(basically just used Hagrid (from harry potter) for body, put, rays face on it, then added alil red to the hair and beard, and gave him a helmet)

[Stripesy Strip]

What's strange is that a few months ago, I did some fantasy casting and once I passed over John Goodman and Brian Blessed for the role, I kept scrambling my brain about choices for Voldstagg and I thought "what if he wouldn't be the usual fat guy?". Because tall fat guys that can act are rare. So I came up with the idea of Stevenson as Volstagg. I'm not kidding this came through my mind. As a warrior it also would make more sense if he can move and not be this blob that eats. The key is the attitude. If Stevenson can make his character somebody that likes to laugh and eat and enjoy a good living that would work. And I think he can do that. I always thought he was too much of a teddy bear to be The Punisher.

As for the others, I find Townsend as Fandral to be predictable since Townsend as always been a Jude Law wannabee. But I think he'll do a good job at it. Third Warrior, Hogun, I'm the most disappointed in it because he's always been my favorite Asgardian, the ultimate badass and I would rather they had chosen someone like Russel Crowe or somebody with that style of acting. I guess he looks like a Mongol so they picked somebody that played a Mongol. It may makes sense but it's not that inspired.

[antmanx68]

I'm all over this. I'm not the biggest Townsend fan but he'll do fine. As far as the other 2 I'm dying to see this movie now. What's his name was awesome in Mongol and Ray can do no wrong. I just got done re-watching Rome, he is the king.

Good to see Ray in another Marvel film, hope he gets another crack at the Punisher (movie could have been better but I thought he was phenomenal.)

[donk70]

if they can turn this
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/4598/johnrhysdavies.jpg

into this
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7073/00028472.jpg
Stevenson can be transformed
But in all honestly, JR-D is nothing but a tall dwarf already

[louiebling$]

What's strange is that a few months ago, I did some fantasy casting and once I passed over John Goodman and Brian Blessed for the role, I kept scrambling my brain about choices for Voldstagg and I thought "what if he wouldn't be the usual fat guy?". Because tall fat guys that can act are rare. So I came up with the idea of Stevenson as Volstagg. I'm not kidding this came through my mind. As a warrior it also would make more sense if he can move and not be this blob that eats. The key is the attitude. If Stevenson can make his character somebody that likes to laugh and eat and enjoy a good living that would work. And I think he can do that. I always thought he was too much of a teddy bear to be The Punisher.

As for the others, I find Townsend as Fandral to be predictable since Townsend as always been a Jude Law wannabee. But I think he'll do a good job at it. Third Warrior, Hogun, I'm the most disappointed in it because he's always been my favorite Asgardian, the ultimate badass and I would rather they had chosen someone like Russel Crowe or somebody with that style of acting. I guess he looks like a Mongol so they picked somebody that played a Mongol. It may makes sense but it's not that inspired.
I remember Corp saying that Hogun was of Mongolian Decent.. not exactly Mongolian but Equivalent to a Mongolian.

So wouldn't this be Great?

[Raiden]

I think they'll do with Stevenson/Volstagg what Fox should have done with the Kingpin...get a tall burly guy and put a fat-suit on him. I just hope they don't screw it up like Fox did with Blob in the Wolverine movie. But then I don't know how big the original actor was in that but it was just so obviously a fat-suit. But then that's Fox and they can't avoid sucking if their lives depended on it. I'm sure it'll work well here though.

Well, Duncan was cast as the Kingpin in DD, but he didn't wear a fat suit; he was just tall and muscular, same with Stevenson. I think Branagh will redesign Volstagg, not as a big fat guy, but a tall & strong warrior. I think this is one area I'd welcome a departure from the comics.

[Panthro]

I imagine he'll be the next casting we hear about
Here's hoping.

[Vartha]

Stevensen was on Rome HBO right?? Well he is tall, has a booming kinda voice with some make up he very easily pulls this off I imagine.


THe thing that does throw me off a bit is Hoggun being...Asian, I mean yeah he always had the Fu-man-chu Stash going, but I NEVER thought of the Grim on being Asian.
Hogun was based on the Hunns or Monguls both of which are Asian based.

[Vartha]

I remember Corp saying that Hogun was of Mongolian Decent.. not exactly Mongolian but Equivalent to a Mongolian.

So wouldn't this be Great?

I back corp on this 100% it was never nailed down EXACTLY where Hogun was from but if you look at the last Tales of Asgard book it kind of hints at the area Hugun's from.

[antmanx68]

I love that Ray Stevenson is in this, would have been cool to have Kevin McKidd as Fendral, a 13th reunion.

[Fresh Prince]

My man Ray Stevenson in Thor!

[Sebastos]

Great additions, I like it.

[Ace of Knaves]

What's strange is that a few months ago, I did some fantasy casting and once I passed over John Goodman and Brian Blessed for the role, I kept scrambling my brain about choices for Voldstagg and I thought "what if he wouldn't be the usual fat guy?". Because tall fat guys that can act are rare. So I came up with the idea of Stevenson as Volstagg. I'm not kidding this came through my mind. As a warrior it also would make more sense if he can move and not be this blob that eats. The key is the attitude. If Stevenson can make his character somebody that likes to laugh and eat and enjoy a good living that would work. And I think he can do that. I always thought he was too much of a teddy bear to be The Punisher.

As for the others, I find Townsend as Fandral to be predictable since Townsend as always been a Jude Law wannabee. But I think he'll do a good job at it. Third Warrior, Hogun, I'm the most disappointed in it because he's always been my favorite Asgardian, the ultimate badass and I would rather they had chosen someone like Russel Crowe or somebody with that style of acting. I guess he looks like a Mongol so they picked somebody that played a Mongol. It may makes sense but it's not that inspired.

Have you ever seen Asano act? If not, you can't really judge.

Inspired doesn't mean changing **** up for the sake of it BTW.

[Weadazoid]

I back corp on this 100% it was never nailed down EXACTLY where Hogun was from but if you look at the last Tales of Asgard book it kind of hints at the area Hugun's from.



hmmm.... I stand corrected then. Just never pictured a mongo with a large Mace. Kewl

[topdog1]

What's gonna happen if Volstaggs has to take on The Punisher in The Avengers movie????

Since most everyone is ignoring the crap know as War Zone, I guess Thomas Jane will have to take out Volstagg!

Seriously, looking at Chewy's work and seeing them next to their characters is amazing. Marvel certainly knows how to cast!

[Webhead2006]

Well i dont know much on the characters myself, as i dont read thor books presently. But i am very curious to see how this all turns out. I am sure kenneth will pull good performances out of everyone.

[Franklin Richards]

I back corp on this 100% it was never nailed down EXACTLY where Hogun was from but if you look at the last Tales of Asgard book it kind of hints at the area Hugun's from.

He should have been Persian.


:thor: :thor: :thor:

[cerealkiller182]

Townshend is a very capable Fandrall. Hes definitely a plus

I know nothing of Asano except the good word of mouth about Mongul, so I say thumbs up to him thus far.

Stevenson is good, but for Volstagg? The end product will be fine I just think its weird he wasnt Heimdall or someone less rotund

[piccolo]

Why is Hogun an asian dude? I dont remember any asians in Asgard, they are norse viking gods. This is even dumber than FF and Daredevil making alicia masters and kingpin african-american for no reason. Seriously, a norse viking asian? Do we really need to make every marvel movie diverse enough to pacify any potential PC police?

[cerealkiller182]

Hogun isnt a native asgardian. Hes from an unnamed homeland which seems to have more in common with Middle Eastern/Mongul cultures

[Franklin Richards]

I think it's prolly more Eastern European. Stan Lee wanted him to be Charles Bronson. Bronson was of Lithuanian descent. So maybe they should have cast a Polish/Lithuanian.

I always thought of him as Arabic when I was a kid.


:thor: :thor: :thor:

[cerealkiller182]

Yea. Im sure your right about Lee but how much change has their been to the character since?

[Franklin Richards]

Yea. Im sure your right about Lee but how much change has their been to the character since?

Heh. Not much. That trio has some well defined character traits. :D


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[piccolo]

Hogun isnt a native asgardian. Hes from an unnamed homeland which seems to have more in common with Middle Eastern/Mongul cultures

As far as I know, he is a native of the asgardian dimension, just not the city of asgard where Thor/Balder/Odin/etc. are from. His homeland wasn't middle eastern or asian/mongul, it was just conquered by another asgardian named Mogul, who had no asian ties from any indication i've seen.

I've never seen him as anything but caucasian and his appearance seems to be as such. I just have a problem with changing comics characters ethnicity randomly, it takes from the authenticity a little bit. Clearly there's nothing to be done about it and i'll enjoy the film all the same, I just think its inane and unneeded.

[Franklin Richards]

Well in all fairness, Norse mythology was made up by a nomadic people. To think that outsiders worked their way into their myths is not really a stretch.

Hogun has always been depicted as the outsider who stayed. He's been drawn ethnically different from the fair haired Asgardians from the beginning. His dress has always had a Persian flavor to them.


I don't know if asian would have been the ethnicity I'd have gone with, but it's not like political correctness gone wrong.

It's just a choice.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[louiebling$]

As far as I know, he is a native of the asgardian dimension, just not the city of asgard where Thor/Balder/Odin/etc. are from. His homeland wasn't middle eastern or asian/mongul, it was just conquered by another asgardian named Mogul, who had no asian ties from any indication i've seen.

I've never seen him as anything but caucasian and his appearance seems to be as such. I just have a problem with changing comics characters ethnicity randomly, it takes from the authenticity a little bit. Clearly there's nothing to be done about it and i'll enjoy the film all the same, I just think its inane and unneeded.
Yea uhh no offense but Corp is a Human Thor Encyclopedia and he says Different :o

Corp FTW

[NoirMan82]

Hogun was based on the Hunns or Monguls both of which are Asian based.

Yeah, I always thought Hogun was Asian. I don't see how this is taking people aback. You can't draw him anymore Asian-looking than he is without being some awful Charlie Chan stereotype.

[NoirMan82]

Dreaded Double-Post!

[WillardNation]

I imagine he'll be the next casting we hear about

Funny story, my bjj coach and I are friends with the stunt coordinator on the Red Dawn remake (he was doing bjj with us when he was here filming Paul) and my coach flew out to Detroit for a few weeks to do stunt work on Red Dawn and couple days before he got back I talked to his mom who told me that the last time she talked to him she got out of it that he could possibly end up being Thor's stunt double. Naturally I had a nerdgasm at the thought of one of my best friends being Thor's stunt double but after he got back and I finally got to talk to him about this morning he said, not Thor but maybe Thor's best friend, who is apparently a pretty big guy too. I asked, "Balder?" but he said he didn't know what his name was. I'm gonna assume, it's Balder, right?

[chamber-music]

Didn't know that Townsend was still alive. Last time I saw him (and then immediatly forgot about him) was in LXG.


Townsends been busy hanging out with his hot girlfriend charlize Theron which I can't blame him for :cwink:

Funny Triva For You Guys-

Stuart townsend was cast as Aragorn in The Lord Of The Rings but was replaced by Viggo Mortensen.

[Ace of Knaves]

As far as I know, he is a native of the asgardian dimension, just not the city of asgard where Thor/Balder/Odin/etc. are from. His homeland wasn't middle eastern or asian/mongul, it was just conquered by another asgardian named Mogul, who had no asian ties from any indication i've seen.

I've never seen him as anything but caucasian and his appearance seems to be as such. I just have a problem with changing comics characters ethnicity randomly, it takes from the authenticity a little bit. Clearly there's nothing to be done about it and i'll enjoy the film all the same, I just think its inane and unneeded.

Yea well, sorry to say it, but you are wrong.

He isn't Caucasian, and never has been.

[Keyser Soze]

Why is Hogun an asian dude? I dont remember any asians in Asgard, they are norse viking gods. This is even dumber than FF and Daredevil making alicia masters and kingpin african-american for no reason. Seriously, a norse viking asian? Do we really need to make every marvel movie diverse enough to pacify any potential PC police?

Uhhh..... what are you talking about?

Hogun, from day one, has taken OBVIOUS visual cues from Ghengis Khan, just as much as Fandral took his from an Errol Flynn swashbuckler. There's a reason just about everyone on these casting threads has been suggesting Asian actors for the role.

http://i47.tinypic.com/2wq5utt.jpg

Are you trying to suggest that there's nothing in this character's appearance to suggest he could be anything but Caucasian?

[Vartha]

He should have been Persian.


:thor: :thor: :thor:


could be Turkish too. lol tho Hun or Mongolian seems to fit better

[Vartha]

hmmm.... I stand corrected then. Just never pictured a mongo with a large Mace. Kewl
Well he could have picked that up AFTER he joined the Asgardians.
It's assumed that Hogun's people were killed by Mogul, and it's not yet known how Hogun came to Asgard and befriended by Them.
With all the writing talents now on Thor it'd be great to have backgrounds on all the Warriors Three.

[Vartha]

Yea uhh no offense but Corp is a Human Thor Encyclopedia and he says Different :o

Corp FTW
Well between corp and I we have a vast knowledge of Thor and Asgardians, tho HE still has all his Thor comics mine were lost in a flood I have very few of vol 2 and all of 3:cmad:

[Vartha]

Yeah, I always thought Hogun was Asian. I don't see how this is taking people aback. You can't draw him anymore Asian-looking than he is without being some awful Charlie Chan stereotype.


Thing is, that particular mustache isn't just in one country. Russians even had that type of Mustache. At one time I thought Hogun might have been from a Russain/Viking clan it's entirely possible, BUT, that story in Tales of Asgard kind of points another way.

[Franklin Richards]

Lithuanian.


:thor: :thor: :thor:

[Ace of Knaves]

What about Nepal or Tibet? Borderline Asian/Scandinavian/Russian. Well, Tibet is.

[kedrell]

Well, Duncan was cast as the Kingpin in DD, but he didn't wear a fat suit; he was just tall and muscular, same with Stevenson. I think Branagh will redesign Volstagg, not as a big fat guy, but a tall & strong warrior. I think this is one area I'd welcome a departure from the comics.

Yes, but I said Fox should have went with the fat-suit for Kingpin.

[Manowar]

There's many races in Asgard. Unlike most Asgardian gods and his friends, Hogun is not Aesir.

[TheCorpulent1]

The place he's from is supposedly in Skornheim somewhere. It never got a name of its own, as far as I know.

[Stripesy Strip]

Have you ever seen Asano act? If not, you can't really judge.

What does his acting have anything to do with them chosing an asian because they feel like Hogun reminds them of a Mongol?

And yes i've seen him act in the film where he played Genkis Khan. I thought he was average in the role

Inspired doesn't mean changing **** up for the sake of it BTW.

That's what they just did.

[Stripesy Strip]

Why is Hogun an asian dude? I dont remember any asians in Asgard, they are norse viking gods. This is even dumber than FF and Daredevil making alicia masters and kingpin african-american for no reason. Seriously, a norse viking asian? Do we really need to make every marvel movie diverse enough to pacify any potential PC police?

I wholeheartly agree. This is dumb. I guess Branagh is another leftist type. But I knew this would happen when he cast Natalie Portman-a Jewish girl-as Jane Foster. It's like they felt it would be too much of a cast with blond nordic types. Like it's a sin.

[TheCorpulent1]

Or Branagh just thought of Hogun as Asian. If nothing else, this thread alone should show you that no one's sure what ethnicity Hogun's supposed to be.

[Stripesy Strip]

Well he's a Norse God, right? He's not a human that stumbled there by luck. And the Asian mythological Gods' Pantheon didn't just dropped one of their Gods in Asgard. He may look like a Mongol but if I remember the movie King Arthur where these guys with northern men working under the Roman Empire banner, a few of them had strange cloths, some that could have belonged to other nations, yet they came from the North.

[Keyser Soze]

I wholeheartly agree. This is dumb. I guess Branagh is another leftist type. But I knew this would happen when he cast Natalie Portman-a Jewish girl-as Jane Foster. It's like they felt it would be too much of a cast with blond nordic types. Like it's a sin.

Oh noes! DAS UNTERMENSCHEN are taking over our white Aryan movies! :wow:

[TheCorpulent1]

Well he's a Norse God, right? He's not a human that stumbled there by luck. And the Asian mythological Gods' Pantheon didn't just dropped one of their Gods in Asgard. He may look like a Mongol but if I remember the movie King Arthur where these guys with northern men working under the Roman Empire banner, a few of them had strange cloths, some that could have belonged to other nations, yet they came from the North.
Marvel's Thor isn't a redhead. The Ragnarok of the myths is just one of many in Marvel's version. Thor was described for decades of Marvel comics as being Odin's only bloodson.

Clearly, the fact that the myths don't cover the idea of people with Asian features in Asgard is no barrier to Marvel's version of Asgard having them.

[Bug-Eyed Earl]

Marvel's Thor isn't a redhead. The Ragnarok of the myths is just one of many in Marvel's version. Thor was described for decades of Marvel comics as being Odin's only bloodson.

Clearly, the fact that the myths don't cover the idea of people with Asian features in Asgard is no barrier to Marvel's version of Asgard having them.


That and the myths have a handsome trickster god able to have a wolf, serpent, and hag with his ogre wife. The same trickster turned into a female horse and got knocked up, giving birth to Sleipner.

[Manowar]

All this talk about an asian playing Hogun and not fitting in with Viking Mythology is hillarious.

1st - This is Marvel's Viking Mythology, not actual Viking Mythology.
2nd - Their are different races in Asgard. Most gods are Aesir & Vanir and Hogun is niether.
3rd- What makes you think there are no asianlike races in Actual Viking Mythology?
4th - Milennia ago Vikings in actual history DID meet and have conflicts with real asians. They met and battled Native Indians in North America around 1000 AD and even before that they met and battled Eskimo/Inuit tribes in Greenland. Native Indians and Eskimo/Inuits originally came from north eastern Asia (Siberia)when they traveled through the frozen bearing Strait attached to Alaska at that time.

So an Asian Hogun makes perfect sense.

[Keyser Soze]

All this talk about an asian playing Hogun and not fitting in with Viking Mythology is hillarious.

1st - This is Marvel's Viking Mythology, not actual Viking Mythology.
2nd - Their are different races in Asgard. Most gods are Aesir & Vanir and Hogun is niether.
3rd- What makes you think there are no asianlike races in Actual Viking Mythology?
4th - Milennia ago Vikings in actual history DID meet and have conflicts with real asians. They met and battled Native Indians in North America around 1000 AD and even before that they met and battled Eskimo/Inuit tribes in Greenland. Native Indians and Eskimo/Inuits originally came from north eastern Asia (Siberia)when they traveled through the frozen bearing Strait attached to Alaska at that time.

So an Asian Hogun makes perfect sense.

All this, even if you don't take into consideration that Hogun has clearly been DESIGNED to look Asian (or at the very least, non-Caucasian) in the comics for the best part of 40 years now.

[DocHoliday]

I wholeheartly agree. This is dumb. I guess Branagh is another leftist type. But I knew this would happen when he cast Natalie Portman-a Jewish girl-as Jane Foster. It's like they felt it would be too much of a cast with blond nordic types. Like it's a sin.

How's der Fuhrer doing? I swear some people are beyond foolish.

[Ace of Knaves]

:funny: hahah I never noticed that, but you're right.

[piccolo]

Hogun, from day one, has taken OBVIOUS visual cues from Ghengis Khan just as much as Fandral took his from an Errol Flynn swashbuckler. There's a reason just about everyone on these casting threads has been suggesting Asian actors for the role.

http://i47.tinypic.com/2wq5utt.jpg

Are you trying to suggest that there's nothing in this character's appearance to suggest he could be anything but Caucasian?

No, i'm suggesting that he's always appeared as caucasian in comics, and have never read of any mongoloids native to the dimension of asgard.

[Ace of Knaves]

He hasn't appeared as a Caucasian in the comics though...

[piccolo]

I don't know if asian would have been the ethnicity I'd have gone with, but it's not like political correctness gone wrong.

It's just a choice.


Fair enough.

[Triad]

Yeah, this is getting out of hand. Too much reading into it. Personally, I don't think it's really that big of a deal if Hogun is Asian or not. Manowar's post above makes perfect sense to me.

Sidenote: Stripesy Strip, no offense but your comment about Portman being Jewish did kinda make you sound foolish and/or anti-Semitic. I'm not saying that you are, but it really didn't come off very well.

[Keyser Soze]

No, i'm suggesting that he's always appeared as caucasian in comics, and have never read of any mongoloids native to the dimension of asgard.

So that pic above looks Caucasian to you? You couldn't argue that this pic below looked anything but totally Caucasian?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/602660-hogun2_super.jpg

Or this?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/26948/504887-hogun_the_grim.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

No, i'm suggesting that he's always appeared as caucasian in comics, and have never read of any mongoloids native to the dimension of asgard.
Hogun's home in Tales of Asgard appeared to have a mix of Mongol and Arabian people. And this was from back in the '60s. Like I said to Stripesy, just because it doesn't conform to your idea of Asgard, doesn't mean it's not a part of Marvel's Asgard.

[piccolo]

All this talk about an asian playing Hogun and not fitting in with Viking Mythology is hillarious.

1st - This is Marvel's Viking Mythology, not actual Viking Mythology.
2nd - Their are different races in Asgard. Most gods are Aesir & Vanir and Hogun is niether.
3rd- What makes you think there are no asianlike races in Actual Viking Mythology?
4th - Milennia ago Vikings in actual history DID meet and have conflicts with real asians. They met and battled Native Indians in North America around 1000 AD and even before that they met and battled Eskimo/Inuit tribes in Greenland. Native Indians and Eskimo/Inuits originally came from north eastern Asia (Siberia)when they traveled through the frozen bearing Strait attached to Alaska at that time.

So an Asian Hogun makes perfect sense.

AFAIK Hogun isn't a 'real' anything, he's an immortal god like the rest of the asgardians. If he's mongul, then he's an asian immortal god, of which they have their own pantheons that are not indigenous to Asgard like he is.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea he isn't real, none of them are. They are MARVELS take on Asgard. And they have decided that he is no Caucasian, it's reeeeeally simple.

[Keyser Soze]

AFAIK Hogun isn't a 'real' anything, he's an immortal god like the rest of the asgardians. If he's mongul, then he's an asian immortal god, of which they have their own pantheons that are not indigenous to Asgard like he is.

In niggling over Manowar's 4th point, you've disregarded points 1 to 3. Who's to say the Aesir of the Marvel mythos have to all be Nordic white people? They are an entire species, like the human race is a species. And it's not like all of US are white Caucasians.

I really can't believe this is what we're arguing about. I thought the casting of Hogun would be the one people would have the least issue with, and I certainly didn't imagine people would complain about him not being played by a Caucasian. It's like complaining that War Machine isn't being played by a white man.

[piccolo]

Hogun's home in Tales of Asgard appeared to have a mix of Mongol and Arabian people. And this was from back in the '60s. Like I said to Stripesy, just because it doesn't conform to your idea of Asgard, doesn't mean it's not a part of Marvel's Asgard.

If that's true then ok. If you know the whereabouts of a scan depicting it that would help a lot.

And its not like my idea of asgard is so strikingly different than marvel's. I imagine asgard to be a dimension of 6 races, the only humanoid of which was worshipped by scandinavian and germanic tribes in europe. The idea that mongoloids weren't a part of the equation is not outraegous.

[JeetKuneDo]

Well, Duncan was cast as the Kingpin in DD, but he didn't wear a fat suit; he was just tall and muscular, same with Stevenson. I think Branagh will redesign Volstagg, not as a big fat guy, but a tall & strong warrior. I think this is one area I'd welcome a departure from the comics.
My exact line of thinking.

[Ace of Knaves]

Why do you call them mongoloids? That is offensive.

[Keyser Soze]

Why do you call them mongoloids? That is offensive.

Not necessarily. That was their original name, it's just that it's become seen as racially derogatory because it's also become a derogatory name for people with Downs' Syndrome.

[TheCorpulent1]

Pretty sure he's using the technical definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongoloid

[Ace of Knaves]

OK cool. I thought they were just called Mongols.

[Franklin Richards]

Mongoloids
Negroids
Caucazoids


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Chewy]

I really can't believe this is what we're arguing about. I thought the casting of Hogun would be the one people would have the least issue with, and I certainly didn't imagine people would complain about him not being played by a Caucasian. It's like complaining that War Machine isn't being played by a white man.
People love to argue the stupid issues of ethnicity in their superhero films.

Heck, in the last page of this thread there has been a complaint lobbed against Natalie Portman's casting because she is Jewish. The audacity of casting a Jewish woman as a human nurse!

[Manowar]

AFAIK Hogun isn't a 'real' anything, he's an immortal god like the rest of the asgardians. If he's mongul, then he's an asian immortal god, of which they have their own pantheons that are not indigenous to Asgard like he is.

I never said Hogun was a "real" anything. Just said that the Vikings did interact with Asians, and so it would be very possible for Hogun to have been asian. And considering all the Marvel literature & illustration, most probably he was.

FYI Asgardians are not "immortal", and not all Asgardians are Gods. Nobody said he is Mongul, but he has Mongul characteristics.

Also, Vikings are not a race but a way of life (culture). Many races had Viking culture.

I can't remember but it's possible that none of the Warriors Three were actual Marvel Norse Gods.

[piccolo]

In niggling over Manowar's 4th point, you've disregarded points 1 to 3. Who's to say the Aesir of the Marvel mythos have to all be Nordic white people? They are an entire species, like the human race is a species.

Who's to say they aren't?

When you or manowar find an asian amongst the godly pantheon in norse/viking mythology, any of it, real-world or comics, i'll be all ears.

[Webhead2006]

to me i see no issues with the casting of these three guys and all that. As for hogun i am not a thor comics reader so i dont know myself how the guys should be. But i agree with folks from the images i have seen hogun seems to be more asian looking type of character.

[TheCorpulent1]

If that's true then ok. If you know the whereabouts of a scan depicting it that would help a lot.

And its not like my idea of asgard is so strikingly different than marvel's. I imagine asgard to be a dimension of 6 races, the only humanoid of which was worshipped by scandinavian and germanic tribes in europe. The idea that mongoloids weren't a part of the equation is not outraegous.
Sorry, I was mistaken, it was Mogul's home, the Mystic Mountain, that had that mix of races. Hogun's people were in that mix, though, since Mogul conquered Hogun's homeland earlier and made its people his subjects.

[Keyser Soze]

Who's to say they aren't?

When you or manowar find an asian amongst the godly pantheon in norse/viking mythology, any of it, real-world or comics, i'll be all ears.

Ummm......HOGUN, based on the numerous pictures you've ignored?

[Ace of Knaves]

Who's to say they aren't?

When you or manowar find an asian amongst the godly pantheon in norse/viking mythology, any of it, real-world or comics, i'll be all ears.

If you open you're eyes you will see, in the multiple pictures of Hogun posted.

[JeetKuneDo]

I had no idea that:


Hogun was anything other than Asian. The name even sounds like "Shogun" to me.
Natalie Portman is Jewish. (shrug)

[piccolo]

I never said Hogun was a "real" anything. Just said that the Vikings did interact with Asians, and so it would be very possible for Hogun to have been asian. And considering all the Marvel literature & illustration, most probably he was.

Why would real world vikings interacting with asians result in norse gods having asian gods amongst them?

Either Hogun is asian or he's not. If you can give me a good reason scandinavian/germanic godly pantheons would have mongoloid gods indigenous to their land, i'm listening.

I can't remember but it's possible that none of the Warriors Three are actual Gods.

AFAIK all of them are 'immortal' in the same sense that the rest of the asgardian pantheon are. None of them are just guys picked up along the way.

To reiterate, this will not affect my enjoyment of the movie nor do I believe there is anything to be done about this. I would have dropped it if not for the numerous guys who decided they simply had to inform me of the imaginary monguls present in asgardian mythology.

[TheCorpulent1]

There doesn't have to be a reason for Asians in the home of Marvel's Norse gods. They live in another dimension with all kinds of races and creatures. Marvel's Asgard is, once again, not 100% identical to the myths' Asgard, so the fact that it has Asians doesn't mean anything or have to have any reasonable basis, it's just how Marvel's version is.

Hogun's homeland is never seen, only mentioned in dialogue. This dude, Saguta, is the only other definite member of Hogun's race that I can recall seeing (although, again, it stands to reason that they're mixed in among Mogul's subjects in the Mystic Mountain, all of whom appear pretty Mongolian or Arabic to me):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Thor/thor137p17.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Thor/thor137p18.jpg

You can decide for yourself whether he (or Hogun, for that matter) looks Mongolian, Russian, Lithuanian, or whatever else, but it seems pretty clear that at the very least they're not of the same Aryan-looking race as the other gods of Asgard to me.

[Ace of Knaves]

Why would real world vikings interacting with asians result in norse gods having asian gods amongst them?

Either Hogun is asian or he's not. If you can give me a good reason scandinavian/germanic godly pantheons would have mongoloid gods indigenous to their land, i'm listening.

Maybe they slept with asian women, had half asian children?



AFAIK all of them are 'immortal' in the same sense that the rest of the asgardian pantheon are. None of them are just guys picked up along the way.



And the survey says?

Eh ehhhh!

The Marvel Asgardians are not actually immortal. They are just EXTREMELY long lived.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, they call themselves "immortals" all the time. Basically, they all get to live really long because of Idunn's golden apples. Hogun eats them the same as anyone else, I believe.

[piccolo]

Sorry, I was mistaken, it was Mogul's home, the Mystic Mountain, that had that mix of races. Hogun's people were in that mix, though, since Mogul conquered Hogun's homeland earlier and made its people his subjects.

Hoguns people had been there long before Mogul conquered. They weren't in that mix any more than aborigines are in the mix of the caucasian ethnicities living in australia.

From those pics posted there does seem to be an asian element to Hogun. If thats what the producers of Thor are going by then there is precedent. Ok.

I would be interested to hear how asian immortals got to be native to asgard from the writer of the books that scan came from, out of sheer curiousity.

[Franklin Richards]

People accepted into the fold have to eat the Golden Apples anyway.

Hoguns people had been there long before Mogul conquered. They weren't in that mix any more than aborigines are in the mix of the caucasian ethnicities living in australia.

From those pics posted there does seem to be an asian element to Hogun. If thats what the producers of Thor are going by then there is precedent. Ok.

I would be interested to hear how asian immortals got to be native to asgard from the writer of the books that scan came from, out of sheer curiousity.

Read "Eaters of the Dead"


:thor: :thor: :thor:

[TheCorpulent1]

Hoguns people had been there long before Mogul conquered. They weren't in that mix any more than aborigines are in the mix of the caucasian ethnicities living in australia.

From those pics posted there does seem to be an asian element to Hogun. If thats what the producers of Thor are going by then there is precedent. Ok.

I would be interested to hear how asian immortals got to be native to asgard from the writer of the books that scan came from, out of sheer curiousity.
The writer is Stan Lee, and the answer is probably something like "'Cause I felt like it." Like I said before, there wasn't a huge push for mythological accuracy in Marvel's comics of the '60s. Hell, Balder went from being an old man and Sif's brother in one of his earliest appearances to a young warrior who eventually turned out to be Thor's brother 40 years after his creation. All kinds of wonky stuff happened in those early comics.

[piccolo]

Maybe they slept with asian women, had half asian children?

I bet cultures must do this all the time, conquer and rape other people's and then adopt their gods.

Leave the thinking to corpulent and keyser soze.

And the survey says?

Eh ehhhh!

The Marvel Asgardians are not actually immortal. They are just EXTREMELY long lived.

That was a very important point you just made.

[Franklin Richards]

Now that I think about it he's prolly a Tartar.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Ace of Knaves]

I bet cultures must do this all the time, conquer and rape other people's and then adopt their gods.



They did actually. It wasn't uncommon.

[TheCorpulent1]

Not that I think about it he's prolly a Tartar.


:thing: :doom: :thing:
Like the sauce? :huh:

[Franklin Richards]

Sometimes spelled Tatar.


And not funny. :o


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[piccolo]

You can decide for yourself whether he (or Hogun, for that matter) looks Mongolian, Russian, Lithuanian, or whatever else, but it seems pretty clear that at the very least they're not of the same Aryan-looking race as the other gods of Asgard to me.

In those scans they looked almost neaderthal. Not necessarily different from caucasian, just....less evolved, if that.

The writer is Stan Lee, and the answer is probably something like "'Cause I felt like it." Like I said before, there wasn't a huge push for mythological accuracy in Marvel's comics of the '60s. Hell, Balder went from being an old man and Sif's brother in one of his earliest appearances to a young warrior who eventually turned out to be Thor's brother 40 years after his creation. All kinds of wonky stuff happened in those early comics.

I meant the writer/artist of the first more contemporary scan posted by keyzer soze. Thats the only one where I can say he looks definitively asian and not just extremely rugged.

[BoredGuy]

I haven't been reading Thor for very long, but I've always assumed Hogun was Asian. I really don't see what the big deal is...

...and to the person who said that branagh was a "leftist" for casting this guy and a "jew" in Thor, it's really hard to take one seriously when your such an epic jagoff...

[Manowar]

Let me end this racial debate. Since there are no Asgardians or Skornheinians or whatever Hogun's actual background is in the Marvel Universe to "play" the part of Hogun in the Thor movie, the studios found someone (actor) on our planet Earth who looks similar to the Hogun we see illustrated in the comic books. I think they did well.

The actor just happens to be asian... It doesn't mean that Hogun is asian. Just looks asian. Does that satisfy eveyone??

[TheCorpulent1]

Sometimes spelled Tatar.


And not funny. :o


:thing: :doom: :thing:
Sorry if that was offensive. I actually haven't heard of Tartars before.

[Franklin Richards]

Sorry if that was offensive. I actually haven't heard of Tartars before.

:D

Not offensive. Just not funny.


Check out the Wiki page on Tatars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartars).


That's exactly the race Hogun spawned from. Hell, even Charles Bronson was a Tatar. And they were known for traveling to Finland.


:thor: :thor: :thor:

[TheCorpulent1]

Wow, yeah, that is definitely a match for most portrayals of Hogun I've seen. :up:

[piccolo]

Let me end this racial debate.

Its been over, as far as i'm concerned. I would prefer a caucasian casting and would find it more authentic, but the actor they picked is asian and i'm sure he'll be awesome in the role. Thor: The Movie goes on.

[Keyser Soze]

Its been over, as far as i'm concerned. I would prefer a caucasian casting and would find it more authentic, but the actor they picked is asian and i'm sure he'll be awesome in the role. Thor: The Movie goes on.

Why you feel a Caucasian actor would be more authentic casting for a clearly non-Caucasian character is the matter that's still causing confusion. :huh:

[Keyser Soze]

I meant the writer/artist of the first more contemporary scan posted by keyzer soze. Thats the only one where I can say he looks definitively asian and not just extremely rugged.

It's not just a contemporary thing. Hogun has long been portrayed with Asian features:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5226/193049-81509-hogun_super.jpg

Not the yellow skin here, even, which was stereotypically used to portray Asian people in earlier comics.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/127266-99658-hogun_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/602658-h_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/798090-87194307qc0_super.jpg

[Vartha]

People accepted into the fold have to eat the Golden Apples anyway.



Read "Eaters of the Dead"


:thor: :thor: :thor:

Or watch 13th Warrior

[Vartha]

That and the myths have a handsome trickster god able to have a wolf, serpent, and hag with his ogre wife. The same trickster turned into a female horse and got knocked up, giving birth to Sleipner.
Slepnir, yes the read Ages of Thunder, Regin of Blood and Man of war or read the Ages of Thunder Trade.
The Myths are addapted to why Thor was banished to Earth. The loki bringing home Slepnir was changed. Marvel's verison had Thor HORSES instead of goats eatten and he took the horses bones and made Slepnir.

You'll recognize the myths in Ages of Thunder. There's even parts of the first draft of the movie script in the last book Man of war.

[Vartha]

What about Nepal or Tibet? Borderline Asian/Scandinavian/Russian. Well, Tibet is.
I can actually see that. Hogun's people's Battle Standard fits that area too.

[Vartha]

I never said Hogun was a "real" anything. Just said that the Vikings did interact with Asians, and so it would be very possible for Hogun to have been asian. And considering all the Marvel literature & illustration, most probably he was.

FYI Asgardians are not "immortal", and not all Asgardians are Gods. Nobody said he is Mongul, but he has Mongul characteristics.

Also, Vikings are not a race but a way of life (culture). Many races had Viking culture.

I can't remember but it's possible that none of the Warriors Three were actual Marvel Norse Gods.

I agree with this Manowar. Slaves were common place in the Norse countries.
If I recall right in the book "The Vinland Saga:the Norse discovery of America" it was actually a German Farm slave that first spotted the land on one of Lief Erikson's boats.

Another example is the movie "The Vikings" with Kirk Douglas, Ernst Bornine, and Tony Curtis.

The 13th Warrior is partly based on an Actual Arab diary. Granted the Eatters of the dead/13th Warrior is Beowulf rewritten he also applied what an Arab had made notes on a Viking camp.

[Vartha]

Sorry if that was offensive. I actually haven't heard of Tartars before.
I KNOW you've seen 13th Warrior Corpy, you don't remember a scene early on in the movie? "THE TARTARS ARE COMING, THE TARTARS ARE COMING!!"

[piccolo]

Why you feel a Caucasian actor would be more authentic casting for a clearly non-Caucasian character is the matter that's still causing confusion. :huh:

:whatever: :funny:

Its easy to tell when an artist draws someone as asian. With the exception of one, in every one you've posted he just looks like a white guy with a long mustauche.

Which he is.

And should be.

Hogun is cast as an asian dude and its cool. Its not even an issue anymore. Thor: the movie goes on, and so does this useless debate as long as you insist on it. Now, jump again.

[Keyser Soze]

:whatever: :funny:

Its easy to tell when an artist draws someone as asian. With the exception of one, in every one you've posted he just looks like a white guy with a long mustauche.

Which he is.

And should be.

Hogun is cast as an asian dude and its cool. Its not even an issue anymore. Thor: the movie goes on, and so does this useless debate as long as you insist on it. Now, jump again.

I'm all up for dropping the issue. But I just find it funny that, rather than acknowledging the abundance of evidence from a variety of sources proving you wrong, or at least saying "Okay, we'll agree to disagree on what the character's ethnicity is", you're trying to save face by make-believing your stance as "Okay, Hogun is obviously white in the comics, but I'll let them change his ethnicity for the movie, I'm fine with it." As if you'd done a thing to prove the character is definitively Caucasian in the comics, rather than just saying numerous pics showing his Asian features "aren't quite Asian enough" or saying "Nah, I don't think so" when the Thor continuity experts like Corp or Vartha chip in with their evidence backing up his foreign heritage. Which you haven't.

But yeah, maybe we should just move on from the debate. I can keep on posting pictures of the blue sky, and you can keep on saying "That looks beige to me." And it's nothing but a waste of both our time.

[Manowar]

:D

Not offensive. Just not funny.


Check out the Wiki page on Tatars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartars).


That's exactly the race Hogun spawned from. Hell, even Charles Bronson was a Tatar. And they were known for traveling to Finland.


:thor: :thor: :thor:

WOW! Nice link. It's the closest description so far that resembles Hogun I think. So Hogun was Eurasian!!! That should satisfy all I would think.

[Nivek]

Awesome casting!

[Spider-ManHero12]

This is great news, indeed! FInally, the Thor film is comnig togeather. :up:

[cerealkiller182]

As far as I know, he is a native of the asgardian dimension, just not the city of asgard where Thor/Balder/Odin/etc. are from. His homeland wasn't middle eastern or asian/mongul, it was just conquered by another asgardian named Mogul, who had no asian ties from any indication i've seen.

You should work on reading comprehension. I never said he was middle eastern or asian/mongolian only that he he seems to have more in common with those cultures than the rest of the Norse gods. I said he was from an unnamed homeland (not Asia), which very well could be from the same dimension as Asgard but that means very little since the Norse gods I believe are called Aesirs. They are the natives of Asgard. Hogun is not an Aesir nor is he a native of Asgard, just a neighboring homeland.

I've never seen him as anything but caucasian and his appearance seems to be as such. I just have a problem with changing comics characters ethnicity randomly, it takes from the authenticity a little bit. Clearly there's nothing to be done about it and i'll enjoy the film all the same, I just think its inane and unneeded.

The only ACTUAL visual clue that he may be Caucasian is that he has white skin, but he shares a number of traits with the middle eastern/asian/mongolian traits. At best it is ambiguous what his actual background is, than saying he is definitely Caucasian or Central/Eastern Asian. The only fact is that he is NOT from Asgard so casting against the rest of the Norse gods isnt uncalled for.

[Stripesy Strip]

There doesn't have to be a reason for Asians in the home of Marvel's Norse gods. They live in another dimension with all kinds of races and creatures. Marvel's Asgard is, once again, not 100% identical to the myths' Asgard, so the fact that it has Asians doesn't mean anything or have to have any reasonable basis, it's just how Marvel's version is.

Hogun's homeland is never seen, only mentioned in dialogue. This dude, Saguta, is the only other definite member of Hogun's race that I can recall seeing (although, again, it stands to reason that they're mixed in among Mogul's subjects in the Mystic Mountain, all of whom appear pretty Mongolian or Arabic to me):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Thor/thor137p17.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Thor/thor137p18.jpg

You can decide for yourself whether he (or Hogun, for that matter) looks Mongolian, Russian, Lithuanian, or whatever else, but it seems pretty clear that at the very least they're not of the same Aryan-looking race as the other gods of Asgard to me.

He sure doesn't look Asian.

[Stripesy Strip]

How's der Fuhrer doing? I swear some people are beyond foolish.

And your reaction is an example of how PC leftist can be. You want these guys to be like the comics, where it's still mainly Nordic types and you're wrong somehow. People are brainwashed. The Thor production going pc is an example of being cowards and wanting to pander to lowest common denominator "so everybody can be happy".

I'm sure they'll do everything in their power so the violence do not offends too many people. They'll have music that won't make it scary to 14 years old girls everywhere.

I think we're looking at a Thor movie that's going to be pretty tame.

[DocHoliday]

And your reaction is an example of how PC leftist can be. You want these guys to be like the comics, where it's still mainly Nordic types and you're wrong somehow. People are brainwashed. The Thor production going pc is an example of being cowards and wanting to pander to lowest common denominator "so everybody can be happy".

I'm sure they'll do everything in their power so the violence do not offends too many people. They'll have music that won't make it scary to 14 years old girls everywhere.

I think we're looking at a Thor movie that's going to be pretty tame.

read my post again, kiddo. It was more a reaction to the person you the term "a Jewish" in reference to Natalie Portman. Jane Foster is not Nordic so complaining that "a Jewish" is playing her his straight up prejudice.

[NoirMan82]

And your reaction is an example of how PC leftist can be. You want these guys to be like the comics, where it's still mainly Nordic types and you're wrong somehow. People are brainwashed. The Thor production going pc is an example of being cowards and wanting to pander to lowest common denominator "so everybody can be happy".

I'm sure they'll do everything in their power so the violence do not offends too many people. They'll have music that won't make it scary to 14 years old girls everywhere.

I think we're looking at a Thor movie that's going to be pretty tame.

What are you even talking about? We have 2, count'em, 2 minorities in minor supporting roles in a fantasy film. And somehow it's being tame, and "PC Leftist" or whatever the hell that means because the cast of this movie isn't 100% Aryan? I think you need to seriously reflect on some of your opinions there, buddy.

[Stripesy Strip]

read my post again, kiddo. It was more a reaction to the person you the term "a Jewish" in reference to Natalie Portman. Jane Foster is not Nordic so complaining that "a Jewish" is playing her his straight up prejudice.

Having Jane Foster being Jewish doesn't bother me. But making the second actor to be cast in the production being Jewish seemed like a statement to me. Maybe i'm wrong. But that's what I saw.

What's funny is that I don't have that much a problem with Portman cast as Jane Foster. I have a bigger problem with Hemsorth as Thor.

[louiebling$]

And your reaction is an example of how PC leftist can be. You want these guys to be like the comics, where it's still mainly Nordic types and you're wrong somehow. People are brainwashed. The Thor production going pc is an example of being cowards and wanting to pander to lowest common denominator "so everybody can be happy".

I'm sure they'll do everything in their power so the violence do not offends too many people. They'll have music that won't make it scary to 14 years old girls everywhere.

I think we're looking at a Thor movie that's going to be pretty tame.
People like you give comic book fans a bad rep

[Stripesy Strip]

People like you give comic book fans a bad rep

Dude your avatar is Deadpool. :woot: So as far as bad fanboys...

'Nuff said.

[Franklin Richards]

Well at least I'm a good guy in this thread.


:thor: :thor: :thor:

[Franklin Richards]

Doubly so.


:thor: :thor: :thor:

[TheCorpulent1]

Having Jane Foster being Jewish doesn't bother me. But making the second actor to be cast in the production being Jewish seemed like a statement to me. Maybe i'm wrong. But that's what I saw.

What's funny is that I don't have that much a problem with Portman cast as Jane Foster. I have a bigger problem with Hemsorth as Thor.
You really don't see how ridiculous that sounds? What statement could they possibly be making by casting a famous movie star who happens to be Jewish second? Was casting an Australian guy first some kind of statement too? Pandering to the Aussie establishment or something? :huh:

[Son of Coul]

Yeah, that's incredibly stupid. They're not making a statement by casting a jew, I don't even know who you're talking about so it won't have any effect on most people.

[Ace of Knaves]

Dude your avatar is Deadpool. :woot: So as far as bad fanboys...

'Nuff said.

Don't diss the Pool wing ding!

[kedrell]

They should have just cast Jon Favreau in the role. Then we'd have...



wait for it....













Happy Hogun!!!!:woot:

[JeetKuneDo]

He sure doesn't look Asian.

He doesn't? He looks exactly like the main villain in Bruce Lee's movie The Chinese Connection (Fist of Fury) to me.

http://www.hkcinemagic.com/en/images/people/thumb/Suzuki2_34e052e2910c4594f361d327a40e1a5d.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

Man, it seems like everyone has a different idea of what Hogun looks like. :funny:

[Franklin Richards]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/charles-bronson-is-jesus1.jpg


Here's what's in my mind's eye.


:thor: :thor: :thor:

[Ace of Knaves]

Tibet. He comes from Tibet I think. Well that's what they were aiming for. Even his armour and all that looks Tibetan.

[TheCorpulent1]

I always thought Mongolian. Hogun always reminded me of Attila the Hun, for some reason.

[Ace of Knaves]

Well Tibet is near Mongolia right? Right?

*completely clueless*

[louiebling$]

who said I'm a deadpool fan boy :huh:

Deadpool is entertaining... I like being entertained... isn't that what comics are for.. to be entertained?

[kedrell]

Attila the Hun was not Mongolian.

[Franklin Richards]

Tibet. He comes from Tibet I think. Well that's what they were aiming for. Even his armour and all that looks Tibetan.

Nope. He's a Tatar.


:thor: :thor: :thor:

[NoirMan82]

Wait I thought Hogun was a Native American, or possibly Eskimo?







;)

[TheCorpulent1]

Attila the Hun was not Mongolian.
Correct. I was thinking of Genghis Khan. My bad. :o

[Ace of Knaves]

Are you not entertained!!!!

Anyway, here is a genuine Tibetan Warriors helm. Looks pretty similar to Hoguns to me with the flaps at the side.

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq270/wozza69/3170_1469.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but it's brown. Obviously there are no similarities between the two because Hogun's helmet is blue and black with white fur. :whatever:

;)

[Stripesy Strip]

Correct. I was thinking of Genghis Khan. My bad. :o

If anything, my image of him was Attilan the Hun! :woot:

Where does Attilan come from?

Oh yea, Canada.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yeah, but it's brown. Obviously there are no similarities between the two because Hogun's helmet is blue and black with white fur. :whatever:

;)

Well there is always going to be some cha...

holdonaminute! :awesome:

[Stripesy Strip]

Are you not entertained!!!!

Anyway, here is a genuine Tibetan Warriors helm. Looks pretty similar to Hoguns to me with the flaps at the side.

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq270/wozza69/3170_1469.jpg

That's the helmet of the Daili Lama when he was a cold blooded warrior, btw.

[Ace of Knaves]

Is it? I just google Tibetan Warriors and that came up.

[Stripesy Strip]

Daili Lama was a warrior for exactly one hour. He was thinking about the cosmos, about the meaning of life and suddently came the urge to kick some ass.

But then he thought about the death and misery....and because it was just too hard. So he returned to his meditation for the soul.

[Keyser Soze]

Having Jane Foster being Jewish doesn't bother me. But making the second actor to be cast in the production being Jewish seemed like a statement to me. Maybe i'm wrong. But that's what I saw.

What's funny is that I don't have that much a problem with Portman cast as Jane Foster. I have a bigger problem with Hemsorth as Thor.

But it's statements like that which made people make Fuhrer jokes. The mass assumption amongst just about everyone was that, because Thor and Loki were being played by unknowns, they announced a relatively big name for Jane Foster. You're the only one who thought this played into some lefty Jewish agenda.

[Stripesy Strip]

But it's statements like that which made people make Fuhrer jokes. The mass assumption amongst just about everyone was that, because Thor and Loki were being played by unknowns, they announced a relatively big name for Jane Foster. You're the only one who thought this played into some lefty Jewish agenda.

I'm the only one because i've seen things like this happen all the time in Hollywood and it always bothered me. Not the jewish aspect but the PC aspect. I've seem Hollywood turn into something I didn't like over the years, like giving roles to young pup over seasoned actors just to get at certain demographics, things like that. So i'm always worried that things won't be taken seriously and that stuff will be decided in some corporate boardroom and make films less susstantial so everybody is happy, so it make gazillion of dollars.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, that's what indie films are for. Hollywood's blockbuster segment is a highly commercialized one; it's a natural consequence of studios dropping gazillions of dollars into those movies that they expect to make lots of money in return. Art for art's sake is a myth at this financial level.

[Stripesy Strip]

Well, that's what indie films are for. Hollywood's blockbuster segment is a highly commercialized one; it's a natural consequence of studios dropping gazillions of dollars into those movies that they expect to make lots of money in return. Art for art's sake is a myth at this financial level.

Yea but in an era where LOTR exist where a filmaker was given carte blanche to do what he wants, it showed that you can make money while still being 100% hardcore dedicated to what you want to do as an artist. Same thing with the Dark Knight.

There are no reasons anymore to pander to anybody.

[TheCorpulent1]

LotR wasn't a direct adaptation by any means, though. They changed stuff and I, for one, don't know whether the reasons behind those changes were political or not. Besides, LotR has a huge pedigree that Thor lacks. LotR is the most important work of fantasy literature ever--it's basically the father of the entire fantasy genre and it's renowned worldwide. Much as I love Thor, he's kind of been floating between A- and B-list since the '90s. He's no Spider-Man or Superman or Lord of the Rings.

Besides, every film is different. Different people make different decisions regarding their investment in films. Maybe Thor wasn't lucky enough to get someone as willing to take risks as whoever funded LotR. Maybe Branagh just decided that these people are the absolute best for the roles and looks aren't particularly important. Who knows?

[Stripesy Strip]

LotR wasn't a direct adaptation by any means, though. They changed stuff and I, for one, don't know whether the reasons behind those changes were political or not. Besides, LotR has a huge pedigree that Thor lacks. LotR is the most important work of fantasy literature ever--it's basically the father of the entire fantasy genre and it's renowned worldwide. Much as I love Thor, he's kind of been floating between A- and B-list since the '90s. He's no Spider-Man or Superman or Lord of the Rings.

It remains to be seen wich of LOTR or Thor had been part of pop culture and were recognised the most over the years. But either way, there's no reason big enough to make compromises.

Besides, every film is different. Different people make different decisions regarding their investment in films. Maybe Thor wasn't lucky enough to get someone as willing to take risks as whoever funded LotR. Maybe Branagh just decided that these people are the absolute best for the roles and looks aren't particularly important. Who knows?

No doubt, maybe Kenneth thought they were the best actors possible for the roles or maybe the investors are not as courageous as New Line cinema that made LOTR.

But i'm the eternal romantic in this. I wish every genre movies would be made with the care and dedication of LOTR. Imagine Fantastic Four done as an epic three movie with a great director, top actors, great writing. Nothing dumb, everything looking like it's the greatest epic ever made.

[TheCorpulent1]

Eh, it's a nice thought but I've just made my peace with the fact that it rarely ever happens. Movies are a business first and art second.

[ArmsHeldOut]

... in reference to Natalie Portman. Jane Foster...

Yeah, Natalie's portrayed every type from a Southern Baptist to an English woman in V for Vendetta. To be honest, though, she wasn't my first choice, but I think she will do fine.

(For some reason, I always saw Jane Foster as a Waspy or Irish-American type, like [news anchorwoman] Jodi Applegate--only younger.)

[Khemik@L]

... Much as I love Thor, he's kind of been floating between A- and B-list since the '90s. ...

I think After this movie that will change and he will be A lister from now on :awesome:

[TheCorpulent1]

Definitely. He seems to be firmly back in the A-list lately, too. Marvel's giving the Asgardians a whole universe-spanning event with Siege starting next year, and Thor's own comic is still selling obscenely well compared to his earlier series.

[sdn]

I've been looking for examples of Tadanobu Asano's acting. He's apparently kind of an A-lister in Asia. Does anyone know if he speaks English, or heard him speak English?

[piccolo]

I'm all up for dropping the issue. But I just find it funny that, rather than acknowledging the abundance of evidence from a variety of sources proving you wrong or at least saying "Okay, we'll agree to disagree on what the character's ethnicity is", you're trying to save face by make-believing your stance as "Okay, Hogun is obviously white in the comics, but I'll let them change his ethnicity for the movie, I'm fine with it." As if you'd done a thing to prove the character is definitively Caucasian in the comics

I don't have to justify why I think a character from a nordic realm who is usually drawn as caucasian to my eyes is actually caucasian. Thats ridiculous.

And its not like you guys are amicably "agreeing to disagree" with me on the subject. You've all basically told me i'm a retard for not seeing that Hogun is asian, while posting pictures wherein he looks clearly caucasian with the exception of ONE. If everyone had said 'piccolo, lets agree to disagree', I would have stopped awhile ago. And I did. Until you decided it just bothered you SOOOO much you had to go it again.

rather than just saying numerous pics showing his Asian features "aren't quite Asian enough" or saying "Nah, I don't think so" when the Thor continuity experts like Corp or Vartha chip in with their evidence backing up his foreign heritage. Which you haven't.

You say foreign heritage as if he isn't a native of asgard. He is. When you find evidence of asian races indigenous to Asgard, besides "well he kinda looks like one in this picture", let me know. Maybe consult your thor continuity experts who know as much about Hogun as I do.

[piccolo]

You should work on reading comprehension. I never said he was middle eastern or asian/mongolian only that he he seems to have more in common with those cultures than the rest of the Norse gods.

Ok. Thats your opinion, and thats fine.

The only ACTUAL visual clue that he may be Caucasian is that he has white skin, but he shares a number of traits with the middle eastern/asian/mongolian traits. At best it is ambiguous what his actual background is, than saying he is definitely Caucasian or Central/Eastern Asian. The only fact is that he is NOT from Asgard so casting against the rest of the Norse gods isnt uncalled for.

Cool with me. We're good then.

[sabetoonth]

hmm the immrotal dorian grey as fandral, the punisher as stagg? ok, and uhmm, idk what the guy playing hoggun has done

[cerealkiller182]

hmm the immrotal dorian grey as fandral, the punisher as stagg? ok, and uhmm, idk what the guy playing hoggun has done

Mongul, a movie about Ghengis Kahn

[Silvermoth]

You know who would have made an awesome Volstagg?
Gerard Depardieu

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3879/gerarddepardieu1241335c.jpghttp://img704.imageshack.us/img704/5782/volstagghead.jpg

[protocida]

Also, Brian Blessed:

http://chud.com/articles/content_images/5/brianblessed.jpghttp://img704.imageshack.us/img704/5782/volstagghead.jpg

[Project862006]

is'nt volstagg a younger guy?

[TheCorpulent1]

Nope.

[sabetoonth]

mongul, a movie about ghengis kahn
i knew he looked familiar i ****in knew it! I love that movie!
Cant wait for the sequel due out next year!

[Chewy]

He's already played Frank Castle, aka The Punisher, but now British actor and all-round top bloke, Ray Stevenson, is set to take another stab at the Marvel Universe in Kenneth Branagh's mighty Marvel adaptation, Thor.

Stevenson was cast recently as Volstagg The Valiant, one of the members of the Warriors Three (think the Jordanaires to the God of Thunder's Elvis), alongside Stuart Townsend and Tadanobu Asano. There should be one problem, though - Volstagg is, how you say, on the large side and, with filming set to start in January, Stevenson has very little time to bargain bucket his way to a new and improved waistline.

Luckily, Empire caught up with him recently and found that a solution is at hand, in the shape of a fat suit. "It's fantastic," said a beaming Stevenson. "I've tried the suit on, and what they've done is kind of sex him up: he's sort of slimmer but rounder."

We're not sure we're up for an exuberantly sexed-up Brian Blessed-alike, but Stevenson clarifies: "He's got every bit of that Falstaffian verve and vigour, and a bit of a beergut to suggest that enormous appetite, but he's not the sort of Weeble-shaped figure he is in the comics. He's Falstaff with muscles. I've got this amazing foam-injected undersuit that flexes with me. I can't wait!"

Neither can we. Thor also stars Chris Hemsworth (as the title character), Tom Hiddleston, Anthony Hopkins, Natalie Portman and Idris Elba. With a cast like that, it could well be bloody marvellous. Pun absolutely intended.SOURCE (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=26492)

[Canis Sapiens]

Nice find, Chewy!

And yeah, I imagined they were going for that when Stevenson was cast. A fat, but still very strong and badass Volstagg.

[Webhead2006]

nice find so he will be in some sorta of fatting suit. Cant wait to see how everyone looks.

[Matt Mortem]

Can't wait for some Promo shots to come out!

[TheCorpulent1]

Now I'm very curious to see what Volstagg looks like.

[R_Hythlodeus]

Now I'm very curious to see what Volstagg looks like.
like the punisher in a fat suit!:o

[Keyser Soze]

If he's as fun as he often is in the comics, I have a feeling Volstagg might end up being something of a show-stealer.

[Obi-Ron]

Who was the genius who thought Volstagg needed to be "sexed up?"

:barf:

[Philly Phanboy]

like the punisher in a fat suit!:o

So for all those people who thought that Stevenson looked too much like a Steven Seagal from the 90's clone in Warzone, Ray will now be outfitted to look like the present day "Pillsbury Dough Boy" Steven Seagal. :awesome:

[antmanx68]

not sexed up like to make him suave and super attractive.... I think me means just streamlined. Of the 3 he will obviously be the fat one but making him morbidly obese and completely round like in the comics would somewhat dimish his badassery in my opinion. I think if he plays Volstagg as a more refined Titus Pullo but with a belly and bigger muscles I'm all for that. I think Ray's Volstagg character will be a fun loving, big eater/drinker who loves the ladies but is loyal to a fault and becomes deadly serious and destructive with no warning, I can only guess that Branagh and crew watched Rome while eyeing Ray and hopefully will put shades of that character into Volstagg. I'm very much looking forward to this.

[Webhead2006]

yea he will probably just have a gut but not a huge fat guy like the blob. Also he is probably going to have long hair and a beard.

[protocida]

not sexed up like to make him suave and super attractive.... I think me means just streamlined. Of the 3 he will obviously be the fat one but making him morbidly obese and completely round like in the comics would somewhat dimish his badassery in my opinion. I think if he plays Volstagg as a more refined Titus Pullo but with a belly and bigger muscles I'm all for that. I think Ray's Volstagg character will be a fun loving, big eater/drinker who loves the ladies but is loyal to a fault and becomes deadly serious and destructive with no warning, I can only guess that Branagh and crew watched Rome while eyeing Ray and hopefully will put shades of that character into Volstagg. I'm very much looking forward to this.
This.

[TheCorpulent1]

It would probably be pretty much impossible to do any worthwhile action scenes with a guy as fat as Volstagg is in the comics. That may be why they're making him a bit less voluminous.

[JeetKuneDo]

It would probably be pretty much impossible to do any worthwhile action scenes with a guy as fat as Volstagg is in the comics. That may be why they're making him a bit less voluminous.

Similar thoughts here. I love the approach they are taking.

I've really got to get my anticipation under control. This one can't come soon enough.

[Webhead2006]

yea i agree with that thought corp.

[Aztec]

I love the Falstaff comparisons. That is exactly how I picture Volstagg.

[cerealkiller182]

Sounds good to me. Before Stevenson was even cast, I wanted Brendan Gleeson or Ray Winstone without any body modification, and I think this pretty much sounds like what those guys are like. Big, heavy set guys who still look like they could handle themselves athletically. Like Chiklis on The Shield.

[Chewy]

Stuart Townsend has departed Marvel Comics' movie adaptation of "Thor" because of creative differences, according to sources close to the production.

Townsend had been cast as Fandral, an ally of Norse god Thor. He was replaced by Joshua Dallas, according to the two sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record.

The cast change came as production was about to begin. Shooting starts Monday on the movie directed by Kenneth Branagh.

Irish actor Townsend, 37, best known as the boyfriend of Academy Award winner Charlize Theron, starred in "Queen of the Damned." He had been cast as Aragorn in "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy but was replaced at the last minute by Viggo Mortensen.

Dallas, an American actor who is a relative newcomer, appears in George Lucas' upcoming Tuskagee Airmen drama "Red Tails."

"Thor" stars Chris Hemsworth in the title role, a warrior cast down to Earth to live among mortals as punishment for his reckless actions, which rekindled an ancient war in the realm of Asgard. Thor's troubles continue after dark forces of Asgard are dispatched to invade Earth.

The movie co-stars Natalie Portman, Anthony Hopkins, Renee Russo and Tom Hiddleston. Kenneth Branagh is directing.

"Thor" had been scheduled for release May 20, 2011, but Marvel has just moved it up to May 6, 2011.SOURCE (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100110/ap_en_mo/us_film_marvel_thor)

[Compi716]

Townsend just can't get a break, can he? :hehe:

I wonder what these "creative differences" were.

[R_Hythlodeus]

creative differences?

[Chewy]

Aint it Cool News says it was because he showed up 6 hours late to a screen test

Hey folks, Harry here (http://www.twitter.com/headgeek666)... Just got dropped the rumor du jour... According to a source wishing to be known as Avatom Rothman, Stuart Townsend has been fired from THOR due to showing up 6 hours late for a screen test. If this does come to be true, this would be the second high profile fantasy role he's lost after having been announced as landing the part. The first being the role of ARAGORN, which the public reason for losing the role was that they decided "he was too young" for the role. We all know that Viggo replaced him as Aragorn, but who would you cast as Fandral to replace Stuart?

SOURCE (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/43582)

[Warhammer]

Damn...and that is why Stuart Townsend hasn't had his "big" Hollywood movie yet. And imagine how bad he felt when The Lord of the Rings films became modern classics. LXG tanked and now he lost his role in Thor. Haha, sucks for that guy.

[kedrell]

Seems like par for the course for Townsend.

[cerealkiller182]

6 hours late? Thats not acceptable especially with a blowhard like Branagh. Thats too bad because I thought Townshend fit the role very well.

I've always liked Simon Baker for the role, more so than most other roles he is suggested for.

[Jake Cassidy]

Damn...and that is why Stuart Townsend hasn't had his "big" Hollywood movie yet. And imagine how bad he felt when The Lord of the Rings films became modern classics. LXG tanked and now he lost his role in Thor. Haha, sucks for that guy.

He still gets to bang Charlize Theron. :woot:

[kedrell]

Nice concellation prize.

[I Am The Bat]

Nice concellation prize.

Agreed. But Who would you pick to replace him?

[cerealkiller182]

As Charlize's lover? Me

[Crook]

Aint it Cool News says it was because he showed up 6 hours late to a screen test


SOURCE (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/43582)
This seems stupid on both parties. I have no idea why Stuart would be that late for a seemingly important meet-up, and at the same time it's weird the studio has these no-name replacements in hand just in case an actor messes up. Was it really worth all that trouble over 6 measly hours?

[Chewy]

Agreed. But Who would you pick to replace him?
He has been replaced by Joshua Dallas. I guess Harry Knowles hadn't heard this before running the story about Townsend being fired

[protocida]

Poor guy. He actually fitted the part very well.

[kedrell]

If Branagh was 10-15 years younger he could do it.