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Mister Sinister
11-26-2009, 06:11 AM
From this month's Empire magazine (with the IM2 cover), it says it would be for a cameo in Thor and a full blown role in The Avengers.

"Hawkeye could be interesting", he says. "they're going to send me some stuff on it, see what it is. But I think they're pretty awesome, trying to make superhero movies almost plausible and not just some fantasy thing"

MessiahDecoy123
11-26-2009, 06:16 AM
Solid choice.

R_Hythlodeus
11-26-2009, 06:46 AM
who is he?
Okay. Did research on IMDB and the only thing I ever saw him in is the Assassination of Jesse James which was an outstanding and great movie but still I can't remember him

Ipodman
11-26-2009, 07:19 AM
Wow.... Hulk in Iron Man 2, Hawkeye in Thor..

Hank Pym in Captain America?

MessiahDecoy123
11-26-2009, 07:29 AM
who is he?
Okay. Did research on IMDB and the only thing I ever saw him in is the Assassination of Jesse James which was an outstanding and great movie but still I can't remember him
He was the star of Hurt Locker, one of the most critically acclaimed movies of the year.

chamber-music
11-26-2009, 07:39 AM
He was in 28 weeks later with Idris Elba. I actually think he would make a good Hawkeye.

R_Hythlodeus
11-26-2009, 08:02 AM
Oh wait. He was Emerson in The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things! NOW I know who is. solid choice, he can act.

Carlo Comicus
11-26-2009, 10:17 AM
I remember him in "Swat". Good choice.

Webhead2006
11-26-2009, 10:33 AM
hmm not who i would pick for hawkeye but still a very solid pick. If it happens sounds good way to go about some of the other secondary avengers characters.

[A]
11-26-2009, 10:36 AM
Oh wow -- this is good news!

Chewy
11-26-2009, 10:40 AM
Jeremy Renner is awesome

Hopefully him revealing this doesn't cause Marvel to reconsider casting him :csad:

Gotham
11-26-2009, 10:47 AM
He's incredible in The Hurt Locker. He may even score an Oscar nomination. Great choice, I think.

Canis Sapiens
11-26-2009, 10:47 AM
Man, I really need to watch this Hurt Locker!

Venom'sDad
11-26-2009, 11:00 AM
WOW... now that's great casting! I can see him in the role and he's a pretty good actor. :up:

[A]
11-26-2009, 11:01 AM
Bring on the manips :oldrazz:

NoirMan82
11-26-2009, 11:37 AM
This is awesome news. Renner is a top notch talent, and PERFECT for Hawkeye. I think Marvel is really starting to get a vision for what they want to do with their films, and Thor is getting a really, really strong buzz going. The next couple of years are going to be very exciting for Marvel.

LiveWire777
11-26-2009, 11:53 AM
Its all coming together!!!! AAAAHHHHH Avengers movie = most epic thing to happen in this world since sliced bread

[A]
11-26-2009, 11:55 AM
Really. Now, if the next movies aren't at least AWESOME, I'll be mad :cmad:

We got Iron Man, which is great, and now Iron Man II will probably clean The Incredible Hulk's mess -- Thor is shaping up great -- now all we need is Captain America news :up:

Venom'sDad
11-26-2009, 12:01 PM
TIH was good and work well in the overall scheme of things.

Spider-Vader
11-26-2009, 12:06 PM
hmm not who i would pick for hawkeye but still a very solid pick. If it happens sounds good way to go about some of the other secondary avengers characters.
Hey, wait a minute. I would say Hawkeye is a top tier Avenger character. I'd put him in fourth place after the Holy Trinity.

;17765465']Really. Now, if the next movies aren't at least AWESOME, I'll be mad :cmad:

We got Iron Man, which is great, and now Iron Man II will probably clean The Incredible Hulk's mess -- Thor is shaping up great -- now all we need is Captain America news :up:
TIH was a good movie, it just didn't do amazing at the box office.

NoirMan82
11-26-2009, 12:18 PM
I think Marvel is achieving something VERY special. For the first time in my life I feel like I am truly watching COMIC BOOK movies. Each of these films feel like separate story archs in a larger narrative, which of course would be the Avengers film. With the great talent these films have, it's like a wet-dream for a lifelong Marvel fan such as myself :awesome:

louiebling$
11-26-2009, 12:31 PM
Hey, wait a minute. I would say Hawkeye is a top tier Avenger character. I'd put him in fourth place after the Holy Trinity.


TIH was a good movie, it just didn't do amazing at the box office.
Na 4th Place goes to Hank Pym

Banshee
11-26-2009, 12:44 PM
Right. The Pyms come next, then Hawkeye, Scarlet Which, Quicksilver, Vision, and the like.

Aesop Rocks
11-26-2009, 01:04 PM
This is a brilliant choice. I loved him in 28 Weeks and Hurt Locker.

Aesop Rocks
11-26-2009, 01:05 PM
Hey, wait a minute. I would say Hawkeye is a top tier Avenger character. I'd put him in fourth place after the Holy Trinity.


TIH was a good movie, it just didn't do amazing at the box office.

Edward Norton was the perfect Bruce Banner for the movieverse.

Franklin Richards
11-26-2009, 01:20 PM
What's wrong with fantasy? This guy does realize that Thor is a God... right?


:thor: :thor: :thor:

Project862006
11-26-2009, 02:35 PM
anyone think The Hawkeye Ultimate is the way to go costume wise

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7899/105ultimatecomicsavenge.jpg


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2168/112ultimatecomicsavenge.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7739/ultimates20070724055637.jpg

Sawyer
11-26-2009, 02:35 PM
;17765465']Really. Now, if the next movies aren't at least AWESOME, I'll be mad :cmad:

We got Iron Man, which is great, and now Iron Man II will probably clean The Incredible Hulk's mess -- Thor is shaping up great -- now all we need is Captain America news :up:

TIH was better than Iron Man. :o

deathshead2
11-26-2009, 02:41 PM
I could go with the Ultimate Hawkeye costume as long as they fix it up a bit, and give him back his arrows. Hawkeye seems to matrixy with guns.

[A]
11-26-2009, 02:44 PM
TIH was better than Iron Man. :oIn bizarro world, yes.

Project862006
11-26-2009, 02:44 PM
i think they can give him both guns and arrows

deathshead2
11-26-2009, 02:48 PM
i think they can give him both guns and arrows
If they could do something cool with his guns that we've never seen before maybe. I still think it would be cooler to have him just uses arrows. Specialally made Stark arrows.

Project862006
11-26-2009, 02:56 PM
what about a bow gun

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2140/ultimates3arrowjg8.jpg

david icke
11-26-2009, 02:57 PM
This is great news, but not so great, for me, if they go with that ultimate version posted above. This is the first time I've seen the Ultimate version.
It is fine if they go with Ultimate ways of doing things if ultimately(no pun) they are the same kind of superhero. When you switch Hawkeye to guns, to me, that's an entirely different character. It would be the same as changing Green Arrow to the Green Gunslinger.
If they changed him to some shades wearing matrix gun weilding type I would be pretty angry.
Arrows please, and a cool mask somewhat like the original where you can see his eyes.

edit: Bow-gun I would not be so angry with, but I would still prefer the bow and arrows, it's the Robin Hood tradition.
I hope they don't change it just because Smallville have already done Green Arrow. I'm sure they can do plenty with it that a tv show budget can't.

[A]
11-26-2009, 03:00 PM
I know you can't really tell -- but that's Renner :oldrazz:

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3953/jocain.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/i/jocain.jpg/)

There are no good enough Hawkeye pics out there -- for a manip, that is.

Sawyer
11-26-2009, 03:04 PM
;17765879']In bizarro world, yes.

No. But seriously, TIH wasnt bad.

DocHoliday
11-26-2009, 03:05 PM
Love me some Hawkeye. I thought Renner was fantastic in The Hurt Locker, so I'm cool with this.

THOR
11-26-2009, 03:31 PM
I just saw a Producers Guild of America screening of "The Hurt Locker" with the director Kathryn Bigelow in attendance for a Q&A afterward. What a great film, and Jeremy Renner was fantastic in that role! Well worth checking the film out, and if he is Hawkeye this is indeed great news. :yay:

Son of Coul
11-26-2009, 03:31 PM
The ultimate version's mask is pretty cool, but the sleeveless shirt with the long gloves looks a bit flamboyant. His costume shouldn't be too hard to make onscreen, plus they have a little flexibility on it, since Hawkeye isn't that big a character.

And I ****in loved TIH.

Ace of Knaves
11-26-2009, 04:04 PM
No. But seriously, TIH wasnt bad.

Na it wasn't bad...but Iron Man pisses on it.

Anyway if this is true...SWEET!!!

Renner is a great actor and has that cocky, but not full on arrogant attitude. Plus he just seems to fit into military type roles perfectly.

I dunno how he will be portrayed though, costume wise I mean. I dunno if the 616 costume is gonna work. But I'm not too fond of the Ultimate costume either.

DocHoliday
11-26-2009, 04:16 PM
So I guess he'd probably show up with Fury if this is true. Looks like Marvel is determined top introduce him since early version of IM2 had his character, allegedly.

Sawyer
11-26-2009, 04:20 PM
Na it wasn't bad...but Iron Man pisses on it.

Anyway if this is true...SWEET!!!

Renner is a great actor and has that cocky, but not full on arrogant attitude. Plus he just seems to fit into military type roles perfectly.

I dunno how he will be portrayed though, costume wise I mean. I dunno if the 616 costume is gonna work. But I'm not too fond of the Ultimate costume either.

I wouldnt even go that far...

louiebling$
11-26-2009, 04:22 PM
;17765913']i know you can't really tell -- but that's renner :oldrazz:

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3953/jocain.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/i/jocain.jpg/)

there are no good enough hawkeye pics out there -- for a manip, that is.
this is great :up:

Ace of Knaves
11-26-2009, 04:22 PM
:D Maybe a slight exaggeration.

louiebling$
11-26-2009, 04:31 PM
:D Maybe a slight exaggeration.
Yea Iron Man is prolly my favorite Superhero movie to date.. but TIH is right behind it... it was a damn good film and erased the memory of AngHulk out of my mind :awesome:

Ace of Knaves
11-26-2009, 04:33 PM
I do still like Ang Hulk. It had better action scenes I think, just less of them. And it was more of a character driven, thought provoking movie. I think when it came out people were still expecting comic book movies to be more formulaic and action packed, if it came out after the likes of TDK I think it would of been received better. Ang tried to do something different with a comic book movie, but people weren't ready for that back then.

Plus y'know, Gen.Ross wasn't characterized completely wrong like he was in the new one.

[A]
11-26-2009, 04:42 PM
this is great :up:Yes. Someone saw it :hehe: haha

tamron
11-26-2009, 04:49 PM
Wow. Renner is a great choice for Hawkeye. Marvel has an pretty outstanding run going with their casting.

I definitely wouldn't mind the Ultimate costume for Hawkeye. The 616 is classic, but the Ult is probably a little more plausible for film, and looks awesome. But less guns, more arrows.

Sawyer
11-26-2009, 05:53 PM
I do still like Ang Hulk. It had better action scenes I think, just less of them. And it was more of a character driven, thought provoking movie. I think when it came out people were still expecting comic book movies to be more formulaic and action packed, if it came out after the likes of TDK I think it would of been received better. Ang tried to do something different with a comic book movie, but people weren't ready for that back then.

Plus y'know, Gen.Ross wasn't characterized completely wrong like he was in the new one.

Thunderbolt Ross is, and always shall be, a prick IMO.

Dog Brother #1
11-26-2009, 06:47 PM
Ang Lee's Hulk = boring. TIH = sweet. I'm psyched that Hawkeye will appear. Renner would be great. However, if not him, then Charlie Hunham would rock it as well.

[A]
11-26-2009, 06:50 PM
Ang Lee's Hulk = boring. TIH = sweet"lol".

Son of Coul
11-26-2009, 07:53 PM
I do still like Ang Hulk. It had better action scenes I think, just less of them. And it was more of a character driven, thought provoking movie. I think when it came out people were still expecting comic book movies to be more formulaic and action packed, if it came out after the likes of TDK I think it would of been received better. Ang tried to do something different with a comic book movie, but people weren't ready for that back then.

It's not that people weren't ready for it, it's that what he was trying to do didn't work. If it were released after TDK, it'd still get **** on. It takes itself too seriously and is not as smart as it thinks it is. Also it seems to be only loosely based on the comics, it's like it takes the concept of Hulk and tries reinventing it into Ang's own expression of thoughts when it should be the opposite- a representation of the character and comics translated successfully to film. In my opinion, TIH achieved that and was merely overshadowed by the more sleek, cool tone of Iron Man, which wouldn't have worked for TIH.

NinjaTurtleFan
11-26-2009, 07:54 PM
;17765913']I know you can't really tell -- but that's Renner :oldrazz:

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3953/jocain.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/i/jocain.jpg/)

There are no good enough Hawkeye pics out there -- for a manip, that is.

I love this casting rumor. "The Hurt Locker" was my favorite movie of the year next to "Up", "Watchmen", and "District 9." If Renner got picked for Hawkeye I would be psyched. Nice to see someone other then Chris Pine.

Wolfwood
11-26-2009, 10:49 PM
That's awesome, I love the idea of Renner for Hawkeye. I haven't seen Hurt Locker yet, but he was fantastic in 28 Weeks Later. He kind of has a badass coolness to him.

FaT_tONle
11-26-2009, 11:03 PM
He was 100X better in hurt locker.

irapogi
11-26-2009, 11:08 PM
He was 100X better in hurt locker.

qft

8Diagrams(WU)
11-26-2009, 11:13 PM
I remember him for his acting skills in Swat. definitely has the persona for hawkeye

xmfreak86
11-26-2009, 11:15 PM
I know this is a bit of a curveball and not exactly the right body type but with the announcement of Jeremy Renner maybe getting a part as Hawkeye.... I was thinking about Marvel's tendency for distraction. What I mean is it is pretty out of leftfield to all of sudden be hearing about Hawkeye when we havent even heard a peep about CA casting... While I am probably totally wrong about this... Could we maybe be seeing our own CA instead? I mean both 28 weeks later and The Hurt Locker showed he has the leadership, acting and gravitas to bring to CA imo...

Plus he never really specified in the article what part Marvel was actually looking into him for... hmmm...

I know im being naive and stupid probably but it was just a thought... And also know this is a thor forum... but just thought i would point it out...

Webhead2006
11-27-2009, 02:31 AM
I doubt he would be cap, hawkeye is a better fit for him. Though i myself dont really know much of the hawkeye character. I have only read a few things on the character. As for costume i agree his 616 suit is a bit out there and probably wouldnt work on screen that well. So i wouldnt mind taking a bit of his ultimate look mixed with some traits of 616 suit. I agree he should keep his arrows and guns should just be a secondary weapon he has.

Ace of Knaves
11-27-2009, 02:34 AM
Thunderbolt Ross is, and always shall be, a prick IMO.

Yea but he still cares for his daughter. There is still some conflict in him.

In Ang's Hulk you could sense that he was torn between his duty and his daughter.

In TIH he was just like "THAT MANS ENTIRE BODY IS PROPERTY OF THE US ARMY!!!!111". He didn't care about his daughters feelings at all.

Aesop Rocks
11-27-2009, 03:13 AM
;17765913']i know you can't really tell -- but that's renner :oldrazz:

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3953/jocain.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/i/jocain.jpg/)

there are no good enough hawkeye pics out there -- for a manip, that is.

wow!!!!!

Aesop Rocks
11-27-2009, 03:15 AM
Man, Renner as Hawkeye, I hope it's not the Ultimate version, looks too much like a rouge assassin. 616 Hawk Eye would be amazing.

Yea but he still cares for his daughter. There is still some conflict in him.

In Ang's Hulk you could sense that he was torn between his duty and his daughter.

In TIH he was just like "THAT MANS ENTIRE BODY IS PROPERTY OF THE US ARMY!!!!111". He didn't care about his daughters feelings at all.

You're kidding, right? When the helicopter crashed, he flipped his lid. The one at the college.

Nathan
11-27-2009, 03:25 AM
I hope they can find a good compromise between the Ultimate and 616 design. If he's working for Shield, it would make more sense to wear something that looks more like military. I just can't see the colors working well on screen.

I'd think the House of M design would work, either with darker colors or in black with bits of red like the Ultimate design and also goggles instead of the mask.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3848/hawkeyehouseofm.jpg (http://img145.imageshack.us/i/hawkeyehouseofm.jpg/)

Aesop Rocks
11-27-2009, 03:32 AM
I think he should look like RR in XO:Wolverine. Red top, jeans. But a purple top. Something simple. Nothing too crazy.

Just a purple shirt, black pants/boots. A mask like Harry from Spider-Man 3. And his bow and arrows.

Nathan
11-27-2009, 03:50 AM
I like simple. Minor changes I'd make. A combination of Snake Eyes from Resolute and RR's Wade.

Keep the black military pants and combat boots. A skintight longsleeve shirt, in a dark purple, Clint's personal wardrobe. Throw RR's west from XO:W over there. Get rid of the mask, but keep the goggles, it would be great if they were hightech goggles that allow nightvision and other crazy stuff.

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8949/resolutesnakeeyesposed.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/i/resolutesnakeeyesposed.jpg/)

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8393/3449849773406fac30eb.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/i/3449849773406fac30eb.jpg/)

Aesop Rocks
11-27-2009, 03:51 AM
Thank you!

R_Hythlodeus
11-27-2009, 05:57 AM
Could Jeremy Renner Play Hawkeye?
Exclusive: Actor reveals Marvel talks
http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/150x180/10731.jpghttp://www.empireonline.com/images/point.gifhttp://www.empireonline.com/images/point.gif
With just three short years to go before Marvel unveils the most ambitious superhero movie of all time, The Avengers, we already know most of the line-up. You’ve got Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark/Iron Man, Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury, and we’d be astonished if Scarlett Johansson didn’t find a place in the team as Black Widow.
Which leaves, pretty much, Captain America and the supergroup’s can’t miss/won’t miss archer, Hawkeye. But, as exclusively revealed in this month’s issue of Empire (now on sale in all good newsagents), Jeremy Renner may well be the man to fill the purple tights of the latter Avenger. Which is ironic, because when Empire asked him about The Avengers, we were enquiring about the blue tights of the former.
“I don’t know if I’d be right for Captain America,” said the 38 year old actor, who’d previously been linked with the role of Cap on that there internet. “I met with the Marvel guys, actually, but we didn’t talk about Captain America. But one of the writers, Zak Penn, we’ve become friends over time and he was thinking maybe Hawkeye could be interesting. He sounds like an interesting character.”
True enough. Not to be confused with Alan Alda’s character from MASH, or indeed the hi-tech camera system that comes part and parcel with Wimbledon coverage, Hawkeye – aka Clint Barton – is a master archer, more than making up for his lack of superpowers with a keen eye, a steady hand and a never-ending quiver of tricksy arrows.
An Avenger since 1965, he’s long been an integral part of the team. So it’s pretty much a given that he’d crop up in The Avengers movie. But Marvel isn’t going to just pitch him into the action – the company is aiming to introduce him gently first, in a cameo.
But Empire’s conversation with Renner took place after Iron Man 2 wrapped so, unless they go back and add him in reshoots, all sneaky like, it seems more likely that he’ll crop up in Thor or The First Avenger: Captain America. Does Renner have inside info? “If I was a betting man, I would bet that Hawkeye would probably show up in Thor, and then be in The Avengers,” he said. “But do I know for sure? I can’t say. But I’d love for that to happen. It’d be fun.”
Marvel’s interest in Renner is further proof that the Californian native has finally punched through, thanks to his wonderful turn in Kathryn Bigelow’s The Hurt Locker. But let’s sound a note of caution: it’s by no means confirmed that Renner will actually turn out to be Hawkeye. “No offer has been made,” he confirmed. “I think there’s a little ways from that.”
For one thing, Marvel may well be talking to a whole raft of young, blond actors and decide to go in another direction (say, Bradley Cooper). And for another, Renner’s been here before, and recently, having spent three months testing and chatting with George Miller about the role of Mad Max in Fury Road, only to lose out, seemingly, to Tom Hardy. But he’s surprisingly stoic about the whole thing.
“I’m just happy to get considered for big franchise roles like that,” he said. “I’m not [doing the] casting. If they see me that way, right on. If they don’t, I’m ok with it.”
So, what do you think, readers? If Marvel bring Renner on board, is he the perfect Hawkeye? And if not, who else might be able to pick up Barton’s big bow?
For more from Renner, and more on Iron Man 2, pick up the new issue of Empire, now on sale.

From Empire Online

FaT_tONle
11-27-2009, 10:15 AM
I think they are going to ultimately go for a younger actor to pair with SJ. With all do respect to Renner, he is pushing forty. Plus the actor that talks the most about a role beforehand usually never gets it. I always pictures Hawkeye being a 3-4 movie deal. Three Avenger movies, maybe a spinoff or the aforementioned cameos. We'll see.

On the uniform, they can't go all purple. It has to be along the lines of RR as Deadpool. I don't think they'll use a mask or anything. Maybe some purple mixed in but mostly black.

Octoberist
11-27-2009, 02:56 PM
i think at least give him like a Swat team like vest. just just a t-shirt and jeans.

[A]
11-27-2009, 02:59 PM
I think they are going to ultimately go for a younger actor to pair with SJWho or what is SJ?

Project862006
11-27-2009, 03:14 PM
guessing scarlet johansen

[A]
11-27-2009, 03:14 PM
Ahh ok.

jacobed
11-27-2009, 03:45 PM
I really hope Hawkeye is in this movie and then in the Avengers, he is my favorite Marvel character.

Rac
11-27-2009, 04:26 PM
I wouldn't mind. Great actor. Great character.

Aztec
11-27-2009, 05:43 PM
It's not that people weren't ready for it, it's that what he was trying to do didn't work. If it were released after TDK, it'd still get **** on. It takes itself too seriously and is not as smart as it thinks it is. Also it seems to be only loosely based on the comics, it's like it takes the concept of Hulk and tries reinventing it into Ang's own expression of thoughts when it should be the opposite- a representation of the character and comics translated successfully to film. In my opinion, TIH achieved that and was merely overshadowed by the more sleek, cool tone of Iron Man, which wouldn't have worked for TIH.

Well said. Agree on all counts.

Spider-Fan83
11-27-2009, 06:46 PM
ever since the hurt locker came out...
(an I heard how much acclaim it got, all the great reviews, and how good was Renner was in it)

I've been waiting to see how long it would take before his name came up for a hero role

wasn't really sure what character he'd fit, but, I could totally see him as Hawkeye

Spider-Vader
11-27-2009, 07:45 PM
I really hope this is true, Hawkeye's my 5th favorite Marvel character.

I agree that something like Wade's outfit would work. You have him wearing purple as a nod to the fans. But this time the director/studio would want it instead of the actor. I'm pretty sure we only saw Wade in red because Reynolds, he was the only reason why Wade had humor.

[A]
11-27-2009, 07:47 PM
We should bury any X-Men Origins memory already.

Metamorpho1977
11-27-2009, 10:01 PM
I just watched this guy play Dahmer. He played a good gay cannibal.

Webhead2006
11-27-2009, 10:05 PM
well i am sure he will probably land the role if he said he has been talking with marvel and we really havent heard of any one else before. As for his age yea he is 38 yrs old but maybe they want an older clint for the films.

[A]
11-27-2009, 10:05 PM
Was it Dahmer?

Metamorpho1977
11-27-2009, 10:10 PM
;17769537']Was it Dahmer?

yeah

[A]
11-27-2009, 10:14 PM
I was confused -- I thought he was in a different Henry Lee Lucas movie.

Metamorpho1977
11-27-2009, 10:33 PM
Dahmer was just on IFC and he's in it. It should be replaying in an hour or so.

[A]
11-27-2009, 10:40 PM
Good, I'll teleport to the US right now *zzzmmmm!!!*

Metamorpho1977
11-27-2009, 10:59 PM
welcome to the jungle/

Ash Talon
11-28-2009, 03:06 AM
I think he's a good choice. He was amazing in Hurt Locker. I don't think he's too old for the role. Marvel has been thinking out of the box with their casting, and I think he's a good choice. Nothing about the character says he has to be young. And RDJ is 40 right? And he's beloved as Iron Man.

I think they're going to have to cast Cap as much younger than these guys. He was an idealistic young man (early 20s at the oldest) and was only Cap for a few years before being frozen. Having Cap as a young, idealistic man as compared to the older and perhaps a bit cynical Stark would be great. Hawkeye could also be a bit older and maybe an ex-soldier as opposed to thief. Hawkeye's been around and doens't agree with Cap's idealism. Their early relationship was one of tension in the comics.

Regarding Hawkeye's costume. The Ultimate one is absolutely generic. The X-Men movies suffered from generic and uninspired leather costumes. I don't want the Avengers to fall into the same trap. Give them a bit more flair. Certainly, they can come up with something more interesting and bold then a guy wearing clothing that any of us could get at an army surplus store.

Goggles of some form do make sense. Not a fan of the Ultimate mask (looks way too much like WildCAT's Grifter). I would consider him having a longsleeve on his left arm but no sleeve on his right. The asymetry could be interesting and makes sense, since his left arm needs protection from his bowstring. I would avoid guns (I've gotten really tired of gun battles in movies). Having him use a bow is essential, obviously. It would be ideal to have someone new to the team question the fact he uses a bow, and Hawkeye does something amazing to show off. The bow is also underused in modern film. Legolas was rather cool in LOTR but seeing someone use a bow against modern adversaries and kicking their ass could really stand out. Lots of potential there.

chamber-music
11-28-2009, 06:29 AM
Wow :wow:

this is one of the few times on hype where everyone has agreed with a casting choice! :awesome:

Ipodman
11-28-2009, 07:07 AM
Wow :wow:

this is one of the few times on hype where everyone has agreed with a casting choice! :awesome:

Toast to that!

irapogi
11-28-2009, 07:29 AM
Wow :wow:

this is one of the few times on hype where everyone has agreed with a casting choice! :awesome:


lmao, i still would've preferred emily blunt. oh wait, wrong character. lol true, i really hope he gets the role, i have high hopes now

R_Hythlodeus
11-28-2009, 07:33 AM
Wow :wow:

this is one of the few times on hype where everyone has agreed with a casting choice! :awesome:
The end of the world is near!

Khemik@L
11-28-2009, 08:26 AM
Every time the Hype is in total agreement a Natural disaster occurs somewhere in the world :hehe:

TheCorpulent1
11-29-2009, 10:36 AM
Let me ensure the survival of the universe, then: I'm happy Hawkeye may be in both Thor and The Avengers, but I'm not a fan of Renner. But I haven't seen The Hurt Locker, so maybe my mind will change when I do.

PyroChamber
11-29-2009, 05:20 PM
If Hawkeye is in the movie, how will he fit within the story? My guess would be that he'll either be with Fury when they find Thor, or he'll be the one to do it.

Aesop Rocks
11-29-2009, 07:43 PM
Maybe he's Furys Body Guard like Agent O was Strikers in XO:W

[A]
11-29-2009, 07:45 PM
Every time the Hype is in total agreement a Natural disaster occurs somewhere in the world :hehe:Ahh no wonder it's been so quiet lately..

Let me ensure the survival of the universe, then: I'm happy Hawkeye may be in both Thor and The Avengers, but I'm not a fan of Renner. But I haven't seen The Hurt Locker, so maybe my mind will change when I do.Well giddy up!

Dog Brother #1
11-29-2009, 11:39 PM
My guess is that Clint's role will be along the lines of the Ultimates, where he and Widow are the black ops division of the Avengers, and IM, Cap and Thor are the public face. ScarJo's role in IM2 will probably be tied to SHIELD as well.

TheCorpulent1
11-30-2009, 08:18 AM
I really hope there's no "black ops" division of the movie Avengers. It'd be nice to see a movie honoring classic superheroes as classic superheroes. They've got SHIELD and various solo heroes for the seedy underbelly of the world; the Avengers are supposed to be the top-tier superheroes kicking the collective ass of world-class threats, not skulking around in shadows assassinating political figures or whatever.

Personally, I think it'd be fine if Hawkeye were a SHIELD agent in Thor who becomes a superhero in Avengers.

Webhead2006
11-30-2009, 05:11 PM
i could see things going something like that. As for hawkeye suit which we probably wont see to avengers i am curious to see what they do.

TheCorpulent1
11-30-2009, 05:40 PM
I hope they retain at least a bit of purple or at least blue. I don't want him to be too secret agenty.

Webhead2006
11-30-2009, 05:56 PM
oh yea i see no reason why he couldnt have like a dark navy blue/dark purple colors in his outfits. So far the marvel studios films are open to all the fantastical outfits and all that.

Nathan
11-30-2009, 05:59 PM
I still think a mix between House of M and Ultimate would be the way to go.

Project862006
11-30-2009, 06:13 PM
whats house of m?

NightBeetle
11-30-2009, 06:19 PM
whats house of m?

http://i46.tinypic.com/6ftq1v.jpg


http://i49.tinypic.com/107p5zs.jpg

Son of Coul
11-30-2009, 06:24 PM
Using Nick Fury, Hawkeye and Black Widow as more behind-the-scenes SHIELD folk as Captain America, Iron Man, and Thor as the actual Avengers and Hulk as an on and off member/reason for their formation is the way to go if you ask me.

Webhead2006
11-30-2009, 06:38 PM
yea i wouldnt mind it going like that myself.

sdn
11-30-2009, 07:09 PM
TIH was better than Iron Man. :o

I actually liked it better as well.

Son of Coul
11-30-2009, 07:29 PM
Iron Man wasn't as sweet on rewatch, but still awesome, whereas TIH got better on rewatch for me. Both are solid 9/10 movies in my opinion.

TheCorpulent1
11-30-2009, 08:19 PM
Using Nick Fury, Hawkeye and Black Widow as more behind-the-scenes SHIELD folk as Captain America, Iron Man, and Thor as the actual Avengers and Hulk as an on and off member/reason for their formation is the way to go if you ask me.
I guess it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if they went in that direction, but I'd really, really prefer the Avengers to be a team of unabashed superheroes, period. Leave the black ops to SHIELD or the Thunderbolts or Cyclops' murdertastic X-Men or whatever.

Son of Coul
11-30-2009, 08:29 PM
Well yeah, they wouldn't be Avengers themselves, just included in The Avengers movie as SHIELD agents working in the background of things.

Spider-Vader
11-30-2009, 08:35 PM
I think House of M would work good on-screen. Maybe add a little more black & WALLAH perfect movie Hawkeye!

TheCorpulent1
11-30-2009, 08:36 PM
But I'd want Hawkeye as an Avenger. He's part of the handful I consider "core Avengers," along with Hank Pym, Thor, Cap, the Wasp, Iron Man, the Vision, and the Scarlet Witch. Although I guess you could substitute a black ops background instead of his small-time criminal background and still retain the "odd man out" feel that he had for a long time in the comics.

Dog Brother #1
12-01-2009, 03:01 AM
what to take away from this is 1) If Hawkeye is in Thor, but they want to wait til the Avengers director is set to cast him then they probably have narrowed directors and we'll get an announcement soon. 2) It's gonna be Ultimate Hawkeye costume-wise. I'm fer it, but let the griping begin.

Bren
12-01-2009, 03:58 AM
Not really bothered which outfit they use, but I still laugh when someone claims the 616 suit is implausible etc, and then immediately wants the 'ultimate' guns to be replaced with a bow and arrow. Honestly, how much more plausible is using a bow and arrow in crimefighting, compared to a styled suit that hides his identity? So what if it's odd. The dude actually DOES use a bow and arrow in crimefighting, we should EXPECT an odd suit from the guy :woot:!

Plausibility be damned I say!!!

btw, I'm all for the 616 outfit (made to look as functional yet cool as possible) with the bow/arrow and guns combo :woot:! And I really like Renner as Hawkeye (if he's cast).

Spider-Fan83
12-01-2009, 04:21 AM
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1161/hawkeye.jpg (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/hawkeye.jpg/)
now, this is clearly the best choice for the movie outfit

Tissues
12-01-2009, 04:53 AM
Not really a big fan of that costume, but he's really rocking the giant purple dildo.

Project862006
12-01-2009, 05:50 AM
safe to say he may look like this

http://comicrelated.com/graphics/solicits/marvel/oct09/105_ULTIMATE_COMICS_AVENGERS_3.jpg

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 07:40 AM
If they do go that way, I hope they find a way to replace the glasses or just leave his face bare. Glasses/shades/goggles as a replacement for superhero masks always, always, always looks lame.

But otherwise, I guess I wouldn't mind the Ultimates costume for Hawkeye so long as we get the bow and arrows (preferably the exploding/sonic/etc. arrows) and some kind of purple and/or blue color scheme.

Nathan
12-01-2009, 07:46 AM
I just like the idea of glasses, because they could give him high-tech ones that have nightvision, zoom and other things. That would be extremely useful for someone like him.

Ace of Knaves
12-01-2009, 07:47 AM
I think some super high tech zoom/night vision goggles would work for someone like Hawkeye though. Maybe he could be like the stealthy, recon guy for the team or something?

Nathan
12-01-2009, 07:52 AM
Ok, don't kill me, but how about the Smallville route? Manip this blue and purple and I wouldn't mind if Hawkeye would look similar in the movie. Heck, he's even got the high-tech glasses. Just get rid of the hood.

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4741/wholesmallvilles6new1.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/wholesmallvilles6new1.jpg/)

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 07:52 AM
That god-awful Smallville Green Arrow costume is exactly the kind of thing I'd sell my left leg to see the Marvel movie people avoid with Hawkeye.
I think some super high tech zoom/night vision goggles would work for someone like Hawkeye though. Maybe he could be like the stealthy, recon guy for the team or something?
Just doesn't seem necessary to me. Hawkeye's the smarmy, wisecracking ass with a lot of hidden depth of the team. That role's worked extremely well for him for decades, yet now everyone wants him to randomly become an assassin or spy or whatever just because The Ultimates fad is still in right now.

Ace of Knaves
12-01-2009, 07:57 AM
It's nothing to do with Ultimates.

I just think he hasn't got the fire power of Iron Man or Thor, so have him as the more discreet guy. Let's face it, he ain't gonna be barreling into a battle is he? He's more tactical. So I think some high tech tactical googles would suit him. I mean, he is called HawkEYE right? Give him some tech based super eye sight.

[A]
12-01-2009, 07:57 AM
How did a soap-opera picture get here..? :oldrazz:

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 08:01 AM
It's nothing to do with Ultimates.

I just think he hasn't got the fire power of Iron Man or Thor, so have him as the more discreet guy. Let's face it, he ain't gonna be barreling into a battle is he? He's more tactical. So I think some high tech tactical googles would suit him. I mean, he is called HawkEYE right? Give him some tech based super eye sight.
Captain America lacks the power of Thor and Iron Man and the arsenal of Hawkeye. I very much doubt they're going to have him skulking around in shadows or using technological enhancements. If you want realism, there are plenty of movies out there for you. These are based on comics, where a guy who has nothing but a bow and an impressive array of arrows can survive just fine for decades alongside titans like Thor and Iron Man and a guy with nothing but a shield and some enhanced reflexes can easily tear through entire battalions in World War II.

Ace of Knaves
12-01-2009, 08:05 AM
Easy now Corp, don't get your panties all twisted up :D

I'm not bothered about "realism". I'm just saying it makes sense that a character called HawkEYE whose main speciality is aiming should have some high tech tactical goggles or something.

And I'm not saying he should be sneaking around in the shadows, but he shouldn't just go charging into a fight. He should scout out the battle field, maybe fire some smoke bomb arrows, use his thermal sights on his goggles to pick enemies off from a distance with his regular arrows. You know what I mean? He should make use of the different special arrows and tech he has got.

Nathan
12-01-2009, 08:08 AM
That god-awful Smallville Green Arrow costume is exactly the kind of thing I'd sell my left leg to see the Marvel movie people avoid with Hawkeye.

Is it really that awful though? It's got somewhat of an Ultimates design vibe, but is still colorful enough to count as a superhero costume.

On a basic level I think that's what the Hawkeye costume should be like. There's really nothing wrong with the boots, gloves and pants he wears. Maybe change the top and obviously change the pattern, textures and colors to something that's more reminiscent of Hawkeye.

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 08:12 AM
The textures are the main problem. It looks like he cut up a thick raincoat and turned it into a costume to me. The colors don't work too well to me, though. And the overall design is pretty awkward.
Easy now Corp, don't get your panties all twisted up :D

I'm not bothered about "realism". I'm just saying it makes sense that a character called HawkEYE whose main speciality is aiming should have some high tech tactical goggles or something.

And I'm not saying he should be sneaking around in the shadows, but he shouldn't just go charging into a fight. He should scout out the battle field, maybe fire some smoke bomb arrows, use his thermal sights on his goggles to pick enemies off from a distance with his regular arrows. You know what I mean? He should make use of the different special arrows and tech he has got.
I agree. But it just seems lame to have him rely on a technological crutch in the movies. He's called Hawkeye in the comics because he's basically the best marksman who ever lived. Giving him goggles seems to take him down to just some dude with tech that anyone could get their hands on.

Franklin Richards
12-01-2009, 08:15 AM
Robin Hood didn't need no stinkin' goggles.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

Nathan
12-01-2009, 08:15 AM
It would just be a good assist for situations where it's either pitch black or too foggy to see clearly. Or like Ace mentioned, use smoke arrows and then picking off his enemies one by one with thermal vision.

Ace of Knaves
12-01-2009, 08:17 AM
Yea I mean, he has still gotta be some sick ass marksmen. The goggles just help in situations where he can't see ie night time or fog/smoke.

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 08:18 AM
It would be a good assist for him to have a sniper rifle with a magnifying scope instead of a bow and arrows, too. But it's not true to the character, in my opinion.

Ace of Knaves
12-01-2009, 08:20 AM
Well using tactics is true to the character. Like I said, blanketing the battle field or whatever in smoke bomb arrows is something I'd imagine Clint would do. Then use the thermal sights to pick off the enemies with his sick marksman skills.

Nathan
12-01-2009, 08:22 AM
It wouldn't take anything away from his crazy marksmen ability. Zoom, nightvision, thermal, none of that would do the aiming for him.

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 08:45 AM
Eh, I guess goggles wouldn't be so bad. I just hope they don't look too super-spyish. I want Hawkeye, not Sam Fisher.

NoirMan82
12-01-2009, 08:54 AM
I may get lynched for saying this, but I've always HATED Hawkeye's costume, I mean, it just looks awful. As long as we don't get that equally awful "Bullseye Mask" Ultimate costume, I'm happy.

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 08:57 AM
I don't hate Hawkeye's costume, but I do agree that it's a bit impractical for a film. It's the kind of costume that only works if you draw it on a 'roided-out, idealized figure, and even then, some elements (like his faux-Wolverine mask) have always felt a little weird to me.

[A]
12-01-2009, 08:58 AM
^ A guy posted a Smallville pic and lived. You won't get lynched for saying that :cwink:

NoirMan82
12-01-2009, 09:05 AM
;17781847']^ A guy posted a Smallville pic and lived. You won't get lynched for saying that :cwink:

Haha! True. I just want a happy medium. I think if they used the earlier Ultimates costume with some dark royal blue and purple hues, it would be win. Sunglasses..eh...maybe the more tactical ones like frontline soldiers wear in Iraq or Afghanistan, but not some Oakley-styled douche-goggles. Hell no.

Nathan
12-01-2009, 09:05 AM
His classic costume never had a chance to be faithfully adapted in a movie.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1161/hawkeye.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/i/hawkeye.jpg/)

I'm looking forward to see what they actually come up with.

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 09:09 AM
Haha! True. I just want a happy medium. I think if they used the earlier Ultimates costume with some dark royal blue and purple hues, it would be win. Sunglasses..eh...maybe the more tactical ones like frontline soldiers wear in Iraq or Afghanistan, but not some Oakley-styled douche-goggles. Hell no.
Exactly what I meant, only stated far more eloquently. :D

DocHoliday
12-01-2009, 09:19 AM
Well using tactics is true to the character. Like I said, blanketing the battle field or whatever in smoke bomb arrows is something I'd imagine Clint would do. Then use the thermal sights to pick off the enemies with his sick marksman skills.

Noted for truth.

chamber-music
12-01-2009, 09:32 AM
I like the classic costume but the purple tunic apron thing would look weirder than kobe bryant in a summer dress in live action

NoirMan82
12-01-2009, 09:51 AM
I like the classic costume but the purple tunic apron thing would look weirder than kobe bryant in a summer dress in live action

Well, I have the day off and some down time between design jobs. Might as well knock some rust off Photoshop ;)

R_Hythlodeus
12-01-2009, 09:54 AM
THIS minus the dominomask plus google could work on screen (maybe use a darker blue)
http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/images/hawkeye.jpg

NoirMan82
12-01-2009, 09:57 AM
THIS minus the dominomask plus google could work on screen (maybe use a darker blue)
http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/images/hawkeye.jpg

Well, just saved me a few hours in Photoshop!

NoirMan82
12-01-2009, 10:55 AM
Just did a quick little manip:

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee148/dre_mac/hawkeye2.jpg

I'd be very happy if we got something like this for Hawkeye's movie look.

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 11:00 AM
Yeah, that'd work. Hitch's Ultimates designs are unbelievably bland for comics, but most would work pretty well on film.

Nathan
12-01-2009, 11:02 AM
Just throw some more color in there. Right now it's still way too dark.

NoirMan82
12-01-2009, 11:05 AM
Very true. He's a great artist, but some of the looks in Ultimates were very uninspired. However, with just a little more flair, they would look great on screen.

NoirMan82
12-01-2009, 11:11 AM
Just throw some more color in there. Right now it's still way too dark.

It was a bit lighter when I first started editing it, but trust me, with colors like blue and purple "subtle" is the way to go.

DocHoliday
12-01-2009, 11:30 AM
It was a bit lighter when I first started editing it, but trust me, with colors like blue and purple "subtle" is the way to go.

I agree with that. What he has is pretty close to what I expect to see. Again just like the movie version of BW practical is the word of choice.

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 11:35 AM
Black Widow's costume is already all black in the comics, though. Probably the most easily adaptable costume ever, given that it's literally just a skintight black jumpsuit with a belt and some stuff around her wrists.

Chewy
12-01-2009, 11:38 AM
There is a video of Renner talking about the role here (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/12/01/jeremy-renner-clarifies-hawkeye-thor-and-avengers-movie-rumors/).

Basically he says that Marvel isn't sure whether Hawkeye will be in Thor but they are/were thinking about having him cameo in it

Agent 194
12-01-2009, 11:41 AM
As I've said elsewhere....I know the Hawkeye costume would look silly on screen (that's the first time I've ever conceded that point about a superhero costume - ever the purist am I) but I loved it. I think it's cool he's in the movie.

marcvader
12-01-2009, 12:24 PM
I don't mind Hawkeye playing a behind the scenes role along with Fury, making him a Shield operative/Avengers trainee. As far as costume is concerned, his is pretty far out there but I also don't want another black leather take on a superhero costume ther has to be some purple or dark blue.

FlawlessVictory
12-01-2009, 12:52 PM
Strange for someone to be talking about a role as much as he is when he doesn't even have it yet.

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 12:53 PM
At least we know he'll be enthusiastic if he does get it.

xmfreak86
12-01-2009, 01:06 PM
^I agree... From what we have heard from him so far, he will definitely be giving 100% to the role if he gets it... I keep thinking back to ScarJo and Black Widow. From what we've heard even though Emily Blunt was practically cast in the role she still trained before hand and went after the role. And look where it got her... Call it luck or whatever but hey it worked for her... Maybe it will end up working for him. And i mean the fact that he is actively seeking the role. :woot:

Aesop Rocks
12-01-2009, 01:06 PM
He guys going for an Oscar for Hurt Locker, isn't he?

Someone THIS enthusiastic with THAT much talent should be cast.

Hell he doesn't even want that big of a role!

Spider-Fan83
12-01-2009, 01:19 PM
Not really a big fan of that costume, but he's really rocking the giant purple dildo.
you get that was posting that jokingly, right?

Webhead2006
12-01-2009, 01:19 PM
Just did a quick little manip:

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee148/dre_mac/hawkeye2.jpg

I'd be very happy if we got something like this for Hawkeye's movie look.
that isnt to bad, i would be fine with this myself too. Or maybe if they try and mix some elements from both his 616 suit and his ultimates look would be ok. As for weapons i dont see why he couldnt have both a hightech bow and some guns.

As for the smallville green arrow costume posted on the other page. I never seen anything wrong with that costume in the show. Its a pretty well made suit, and looks pretty good. Plus in some comics i seen green arrow has sported a hoodie like thing.

Dog Brother #1
12-01-2009, 01:22 PM
Maybe it's just my wishful thinking, but I really get the feeling there is more going on to this than what appears. My guess is that they are in heavy negotiations with the Avengers director, and are waiting til everything's finalized to make announcements.

Aesop Rocks
12-01-2009, 01:26 PM
Does anyone know if Renner is a comic book fan?

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 01:27 PM
that isnt to bad, i would be fine with this myself too. Or maybe if they try and mix some elements from both his 616 suit and his ultimates look would be ok. As for weapons i dont see why he couldnt have both a hightech bow and some guns.
Because Hawkeye's the greatest archer in the world, not Deadpool.

Project862006
12-01-2009, 01:43 PM
^ if the comics gave him guns so can the movie

Aesop Rocks
12-01-2009, 01:45 PM
Didn't Ultimate give him guns? Wasn't he basically just some assassin? Like the Deadpool of the Ultimate Avengers?

marcvader
12-01-2009, 01:49 PM
616 gave Hawkeye guns?

Project862006
12-01-2009, 01:52 PM
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7739/ultimates20070724055637.jpg

Sawyer
12-01-2009, 01:53 PM
Ugh... not that Ultimates 3 crap. :barf:

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 02:07 PM
616 gave Hawkeye guns?
Nope, just The Ultimates, which counts for less than nothing in my opinion.

Aesop Rocks
12-01-2009, 02:12 PM
They all look so....horrible.

Franklin Richards
12-01-2009, 02:16 PM
Maybe they could change the color of the Hulk too. And then let him use guns. Yeah.


And maybe Daredevil could get his sight back and then use crossbows.


Oh and perhaps Morbius could sparkle.



:doom: :doom: :doom:

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 02:17 PM
Ultimate Valkyrie looks pretty good to me. I like Joe Madureira's art about 60% of the time.

Franklin Richards
12-01-2009, 02:20 PM
Dragonfang doesn't look right though. Too Final Fantasy.


:thor: :thor: :thor:

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 02:23 PM
Eh, it's just the Ultimate version. Who knows if it's even Dragonfang? They probably figured a badass sword carved from the tusk of a dragon was too "fantasyish." :doh:

Aesop Rocks
12-01-2009, 02:28 PM
God, I just googled "Ultimate Avengers Iron Man art".

A nose? Really? A nose?

nite-owl
12-01-2009, 02:30 PM
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4741/wholesmallvilles6new1.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/wholesmallvilles6new1.jpg/)

Oh, Ollie what did they do to you?:csad:

Franklin Richards
12-01-2009, 02:33 PM
"This is my Thriller arrow."


:doom: :doom: :doom:

Aesop Rocks
12-01-2009, 02:35 PM
Oh, Ollie what did they do to you?:csad:

Maybe him "hip".

Nathan
12-01-2009, 02:43 PM
Where are all those amazing manip guys? Can't someone take that Green Arrow pic and model it into something more reminiscent of Hawkeye? I still think on a very basic level it would be good for the Movie version of Hawkeye. Just think away that it looks like a cut up raincoat, as Corp put it, the strange stripe pattern and colors and apply whatever fits Hawkeye.

Sawyer
12-01-2009, 03:40 PM
Oh, Ollie what did they do to you?:csad:

Whats so wrong with it?

Spider-Vader
12-01-2009, 05:41 PM
I don't see much wrong with it either. Though, I think he should have the Robin Hood style hat.

[A]
12-01-2009, 05:45 PM
I like the boots.

Aesop Rocks
12-01-2009, 05:58 PM
This'll be a good one.

Whose a better Marksman, Ollie or Clint?

Franklin Richards
12-01-2009, 06:06 PM
They are both at the top of the food chain. 100 bullseyes are 100 bullseyes. I'd say Clint has more endurance and better eyesight though.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 07:14 PM
Clint does tend to do more crazy s*** while he's shooting. I would've given him the edge in hand-to-hand combat as well, but then Winick made Ollie a ninja for no particular reason.

Franklin Richards
12-01-2009, 07:16 PM
How stupid is that? Ollie and Hal would box back in the day. That was about the extent of their fighting skills.


Now he's a ninja? Oh bruther.


:hal: :hal: :hal:

Aesop Rocks
12-01-2009, 07:25 PM
Wait, what is Hawkeye (besides a badass)? Isn't he like a regular human with no super powers but like REALLY good at Archery and all that stuff?

Franklin Richards
12-01-2009, 07:27 PM
Cap training.


:cap: :cap: :cap:

TheCorpulent1
12-01-2009, 07:27 PM
How stupid is that? Ollie and Hal would box back in the day. That was about the extent of their fighting skills.


Now he's a ninja? Oh bruther.


:hal: :hal: :hal:
Yeah. It wouldn't have bothered me so much except that Ollie's son Connor was already established as a good-but-not-quite-as-great-as-Ollie archer but easily one of the greatest martial artists in the DC universe. So after Connor was gracefully bumped out of the top GA slot and then lost his spiritual pacifist bent by murdering a guy and then effectively got replaced as Ollie's heir by Roy's switch to the "Red Arrow" moniker, he also lost pretty much the only remaining distinction he had within the GA family. And then Winick put him in a coma.

Scooter
12-02-2009, 03:29 AM
I really like Renner in The Hurt Locker. I wanted to see him play Captain America. Hawkeye is stupid. His super-power is a piece of technology that's been obsolete for 500 years.

It's called a gun, guy.

Aesop Rocks
12-02-2009, 03:53 AM
I'm sorry but Hawkeye isn't stupid.

jarosso
12-02-2009, 04:24 AM
Hawkeye colors by Photoshop, looks good for me, What do you think?

file:///I:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrador/Mis%20documentos/Mis%20im%E1genes/MARVEL/hawkeye.jpg

jarosso
12-02-2009, 04:26 AM
how can i insert images? i,m new here. Thanks

Nathan
12-02-2009, 04:29 AM
You have up upload them. Use Imageshack (http://imageshack.us/).

chamber-music
12-02-2009, 04:29 AM
Didn't Ultimate give him guns? Wasn't he basically just some assassin? Like the Deadpool of the Ultimate Avengers?

If I remember rightly they gave Ultimate Hawkeye powers like Bullyseyes (perfect aim, I can kill you with anything like my own finger nails and stuff) :o

jarosso
12-02-2009, 04:34 AM
http://file:///I:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrador/Mis%20documentos/Mis%20im%E1genes/MARVEL/hawkeye.jpg

jarosso
12-02-2009, 04:39 AM
Hawkeye colors by Photoshop, looks good for me, What do you think?
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1161/hawkeye.jpg

Nathan
12-02-2009, 04:42 AM
I don't want Hawkeye to have guns, but I think it would be kinda cool to see, when he runs out of arrows and has no other options, he dives after a gun, that's lying around and disposes of enemies just as easily with it.

Then someone would ask him "If you're that good with guns, why don't you use them instead?" and then have him reply with "I'm not a fan."

Nathan
12-02-2009, 04:43 AM
*double*

Steve Holt
12-02-2009, 04:43 AM
that's not terrible, but i imagine SHEILD's got something way better for him

Nathan
12-02-2009, 04:51 AM
Well, Ultimate SHIELD's idea is to give him a costume that's almost all black.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9839/108917138190hawkeyesupe.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/108917138190hawkeyesupe.jpg/)

Green Arrow's costume isn't bad, the pattern of the suit is just a bit too busy looking.

Aesop Rocks
12-02-2009, 04:54 AM
I really hope they do a 616/Wade Wilson combo.

Oh and as for humor, I'm currently reading "Avengers: Disassembled" and in the first few pages of one of the issues, Hawkeye says some of the funniest stuff I ever read. Renner had a few really really funny lines in Hurt Locker.

Everything is going along fine! :grin:

Aesop Rocks
12-02-2009, 04:56 AM
If I remember rightly they gave Ultimate Hawkeye powers like Bullyseyes (perfect aim, I can kill you with anything like my own finger nails and stuff) :o

Bullseye from DareDevil, is that you? :awesome: :csad:

jarosso
12-02-2009, 05:24 AM
No more black costumes please¡¡http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1161/hawkeye.jpg

TheCorpulent1
12-02-2009, 07:59 AM
I kind of like the arrowhead design on the Ultimate costume. But it could use a bit more color.

Spider-Fan83
12-02-2009, 08:05 AM
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7648/image1vj.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/image1vj.jpg/)

TheCorpulent1
12-02-2009, 08:09 AM
An armored vest would make a lot of sense for Hawkeye. That design is a little too plain for me, though.

chamber-music
12-02-2009, 08:17 AM
The body armor vest thing reminds mew of the ones Ryan Reynolds wore as Deadpool & Hannibal King.

I hope Hawkeye uses his bow like Legolas in Lord Of The Rings (taking out multiple enemies in rapidfire time)

Nathan
12-02-2009, 08:19 AM
Well, compared to Hawkeye's classic look, it doesn't look too bad. What did he wear? A sleeveless top and something that looked like suspenders. What I'd change on that west is make the black a navy blue, maybe just a tad brighter.

TheCorpulent1
12-02-2009, 08:31 AM
I'd downplay the "muscle" molding and paint a more unified design over it. The muscles look a bit cheesy to me.

Nathan
12-02-2009, 09:22 AM
I'm not the best artist, but I trid to come up happy medium between the Ultimate design and the tactical west. I like to heep the arrow and tried to downlpay the fake muscles.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/2808/westb.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/westb.jpg/) http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5931/west2.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/i/west2.jpg/)

protocida
12-02-2009, 01:28 PM
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9839/108917138190hawkeyesupe.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/108917138190hawkeyesupe.jpg/)
I like that.

Franklin Richards
12-02-2009, 03:00 PM
I really like Renner in The Hurt Locker. I wanted to see him play Captain America. Hawkeye is stupid. His super-power is a piece of technology that's been obsolete for 500 years.

It's called a gun, guy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/Fantastic%20Four/Comic%20Scans/HawkeyeVSPiledriver1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/Fantastic%20Four/Comic%20Scans/HawkeyeVSPiledriver2.jpg


Gun? Please.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

Scooter
12-02-2009, 04:27 PM
Does anyone know how long it takes to reload a bow and arrow? Like, a couple of seconds. What if the Hulk's coming at him? He better hope he's firing that thing from behind Thor.

Spider-Fan83
12-02-2009, 04:30 PM
ok, tied a new version, hopefully not as plan or cheesy...
(went with a differet type of vest, not as muscle molded, added more color, style and theme)
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6619/hvest2.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/hvest2.jpg/)
original soucre (http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7423/d371102.jpg)

Nathan
12-02-2009, 04:52 PM
Does anyone know how long it takes to reload a bow and arrow? Like, a couple of seconds. What if the Hulk's coming at him? He better hope he's firing that thing from behind Thor.

If the Hulk's coming at him, he should be hauling ass. Either that use an atomic arrow. Or arrows with adamantium tips may suffice.

Aesop Rocks
12-02-2009, 05:11 PM
Does anyone know how long it takes to reload a bow and arrow? Like, a couple of seconds. What if the Hulk's coming at him? He better hope he's firing that thing from behind Thor.

That's why he's an expert Marksman.

He never misses. :yay:

Nathan
12-02-2009, 05:13 PM
Against someone like Hulk, that isn't going to be very useful.

Ace of Knaves
12-02-2009, 05:16 PM
Flash bang arrows? Hawkeye wouldn't try to take Hulk on, he'd use tactics to aid the other hard hitters or to get away.

Aesop Rocks
12-02-2009, 05:24 PM
Against someone like Hulk, that isn't going to be very useful.
Of course he has arrows to take on the Hulk, the exploding tips would get very helpful against The Hulk. Plus Hawkeye would never take on Hulk by himself.

Hawkeye sitting back popping off shots at The Hulk while Cap, Thor, Iron Man and War Machine are up close and perfect would be a wonderful sight to see.

I'm thinking Legolas when I think of Hawkeye and his combat/archery.

That's actually what I want to see, now that I think of it.

TheCorpulent1
12-02-2009, 05:35 PM
Shoot the Hulk in the face with an adamantium-tipped explosive arrow and the Hulk's brain becomes wet goo. His healing factor will fix it, but it'll at least give Hawkeye time to regroup and/or direct Thor or Iron Man or someone at the Hulk while he takes on others. That's why 1) Hawkeye has an arrow for every situation and 2) Hawkeye works best as a team player. Remember, he's also a leader good enough to earn Captain America's respect, so he's not a tactical moron who's gonna stand around in the middle of a battlefield with his pants down.
ok, tied a new version, hopefully not as plan or cheesy...
(went with a differet type of vest, not as muscle molded, added more color, style and theme)
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6619/hvest2.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/hvest2.jpg/)
original soucre (http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7423/d371102.jpg)
Hey, that looks pretty good. The triangle in the center even looks a bit like an arrowhead. :up:

Spider-Fan83
12-02-2009, 05:37 PM
and the purple part around it kinda makes a "H"

TheCorpulent1
12-02-2009, 05:42 PM
Also true. I'd give him a dark blue or maybe black long-sleeved undershirt with some purple armbands, too. Despite Hawkeye's classic costume being sleeveless, I've always favored him with sleeves:

http://rtbolts.superbuddies.net/MarvelPics/Hawkeye-TBolt.jpg

Nathan
12-02-2009, 05:46 PM
I think I'd be cool with those long gloves, that he sometimes wears, that go over the elbows.

[A]
12-02-2009, 05:50 PM
Also true. I'd give him a dark blue or maybe black long-sleeved undershirt with some purple armbands, too. Despite Hawkeye's classic costume being sleeveless, I've always favored him with sleevesLet's play with it..

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7675/jocai2.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/i/jocai2.jpg/)

Franklin Richards
12-02-2009, 06:12 PM
Does anyone know how long it takes to reload a bow and arrow? Like, a couple of seconds. What if the Hulk's coming at him? He better hope he's firing that thing from behind Thor.

Ever hear of S.P.I.N. Tech?


:thing: :doom: :thing:

Venomfan
12-02-2009, 06:16 PM
am i the only one that thinks Hawkeye's 616 mask is cool and would love to see it onscreen?

TheCorpulent1
12-02-2009, 06:18 PM
Probably. I've always wondered what it would have to be made of for the corners to stick up so perkily, myself.

Franklin Richards
12-02-2009, 06:18 PM
I'm right there with you, Venomfan.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

Nathan
12-02-2009, 06:18 PM
Probably, yes. It looks cheesier than Wolverine's.

Franklin Richards
12-02-2009, 06:20 PM
Probably. I've always wondered what it would have to be made of for the corners to stick up so perkily, myself.

I've seen too many Mardi Gras masks that do that. Underwire works great.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

Nathan
12-02-2009, 06:22 PM
If he has to wear a mask, I'd rather see him with something like this.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5986/norm47c74a133ed80batman.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/norm47c74a133ed80batman.jpg/)

TheCorpulent1
12-02-2009, 06:23 PM
I'm warming up to the goggles idea quite a bit, myself. It's not like Hawkeye needs a mask. He has exactly 0 non-superhero friends or family to endanger.

Franklin Richards
12-02-2009, 06:25 PM
NO! I want him to stick to his carnival roots. :D


I don't want anything that looks like Smallville.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

Nathan
12-02-2009, 06:27 PM
I don't want some carnival dude standing next to Ironman, Captain America and Thor.

TheCorpulent1
12-02-2009, 06:29 PM
I said goggles, not Ray-Bans. Like spy goggles. He could keep them up over his eyes most of the time, but whenever he needs better visibility or whatever, he could use them.

Or he could just go without anything on his face. Not every superhero really needs some kind of facial covering.

[A]
12-02-2009, 06:31 PM
Yeah, goggles is the way to go :up:

Spider-Fan83
12-02-2009, 06:37 PM
i don't see whats wrong with the comic mask
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8743/6819press05001s.jpg (http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7926/hawkeyeq.jpg)

Franklin Richards
12-02-2009, 06:37 PM
I don't want some carnival dude standing next to Ironman, Captain America and Thor.

Why not? That's what happens in the comics.


I assume you want Ultimate Thor standing next to Cap and Iron Man too? What? Does every hero have to have the same tailor or something?


:thing: :doom: :thing:

Nathan
12-02-2009, 06:43 PM
Well, you assume wrong. Preferably I'd want Movie Thor to have the current look. Cap needs to get rid of the pirate boots and maybe have a bit of Ultimate mixed in and Ironman is good as is. Hawkeye's 616 look would simply be silly on screen. It looks cheesy even in the comics.

And no one said Hawkeye should look like he does in the Ultimate comics. The last couple pages we've been looking for good a compromise between realistc and practical and his 616 design.

Franklin Richards
12-02-2009, 06:45 PM
Old School costumes look just fine on screen.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/566px-the_comedian.jpg


:thing: :doom: :thing:

protocida
12-02-2009, 06:55 PM
Character profile:

Clint Barton is a SHIELD agent directly under Nick Fury's orders. He's an talented marksman. Everything becomes a weapon in his hands, from guns to fingernails. His favorite weapons are his bow and his arrows, which he equips with special tricks, such as explosives, tracking devices, sonic devices, light bombs and others. Because of his habilities, his co-workers usually call him "Hawkeye", altough he's not a big fan of the name. He's also a talented hand-to-hand fighter and is usually very hot-headed, always making sure his opinion is heard. He's not a big fan of having to follow the orders of Captain America, whom he considers too old-fashioned to get the job properly done, altough he has a very well-hidden admiration for him and the other Avengers.

What do you think?

NightBeetle
12-02-2009, 06:55 PM
Do you guys think the House of M Costume would work?


http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8395/houseofm0404.jpg

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6689/scan00160017.jpg

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8577/hom4cov.jpg

[A]
12-02-2009, 06:57 PM
Samuel Jackson would be mad; hey man, purple is mine!

TheCorpulent1
12-02-2009, 06:58 PM
Never liked that look, even in the comics. It's just a weird mishmash of different stuff to me.

Nathan
12-02-2009, 07:00 PM
Do you guys think the House of M Costume would work?

The mask would have to go and I have no clue what's up with the left sleeve design. With minor modifications, that would look good on screen.

[A]
12-02-2009, 07:00 PM
The only thing I don't really like is the mask.

TheCorpulent1
12-02-2009, 07:02 PM
Only thing I'd potentially keep from it is the look of the straps holding his quiver in place. I like that three-strap design that goes under one arm but loops around the other. It'd look good over that vest Spider-Fan manipped on the previous page.