Jeremy Renner is Hawkeye!

[Mister Sinister]

From this month's Empire magazine (with the IM2 cover), it says it would be for a cameo in Thor and a full blown role in The Avengers.

"Hawkeye could be interesting", he says. "they're going to send me some stuff on it, see what it is. But I think they're pretty awesome, trying to make superhero movies almost plausible and not just some fantasy thing"

[Steve Holt]

wooooo now this is a good choice, so sick of hearing about Jensen Ackles and Chris Pine

[terry78]

Not too shabby. Hurt Locker was well done.

[Blackman]

Hmmm I was hoping for Cam Gigandet for Hawkeye

but Renner is cool

[Episode29]

Hmmm I was hoping for Cam Gigandet for Hawkeye


:wow:.....:huh:......:doh:......:dry:


But seriously, Renner is GOLD!

[louiebling$]

What?

Cam would make a Great Hawkeye.. I kind of wanted a young Hawkeye.

I wish they would have casted this role younger but nonetheless Renner is an Amazing Actor and a sold choice for Clint.

[Episode29]

What?

Cam would make a Great Hawkeye.. I kind of wanted a young Hawkeye.


Well, he's a terrible actor for starters...

[Aesop Rocks]

Like I said in the Thor thread, I loved him in 28 Weeks and Hurt Locker.

[louiebling$]

Well, he's a terrible actor for starters...
He's not terrible? He's not great either but he is a decent enough actor... and let's face it... we don't need an oscar winning actor to clay clint :hehe:

[Kokomo29]

Do you guys think they will go with a more "classic" look for Hawkeye or do you think they will update him with more of an Ultimate Avengers look?

[louiebling$]

Do you guys think they will go with a more "classic" look for Hawkeye or do you think they will update him with more of an Ultimate Avengers look?
I think a Mixture of the two should suffice.

[Episode29]

He's not terrible? He's not great either but he is a decent enough actor... and let's face it... we don't need an oscar winning actor to clay clint :hehe:

That's some seriously bizarre fan logic.

Why would you want them to go with a cardboard pretty-boy rather than an actor who could actually bring something exciting to the character? Why embrace mediocrity when there's a chance for something cool and special?

Yeesh, it's thinking like that that led to the Fox stable of superhero flicks.

[DocHoliday]

I'll be happy to see Hawkeye get some love. Renner is a great actor and will do Barton justice. For pete's sake release Hawkeye for Ultimate Alliance 2!

[louiebling$]

That's some seriously bizarre fan logic.

Why would you want them to go with a cardboard pretty-boy rather than an actor who could actually bring something exciting to the character? Why embrace mediocrity when there's a chance for something cool and special?

Yeesh, it's thinking like that that led to the Fox stable of superhero flicks.
What's wrong with actually liking someone you don't? :huh:

Ha and no he wouldn't be a Fox Casting... he actually fits Clint very well and also has a lot of Martian Arts Training as well... I think he could do Clint justics and I'm not alone on that.

[louiebling$]

That's some seriously bizarre fan logic.

Why would you want them to go with a cardboard pretty-boy rather than an actor who could actually bring something exciting to the character? Why embrace mediocrity when there's a chance for something cool and special?

Yeesh, it's thinking like that that led to the Fox stable of superhero flicks.
What's wrong with actually liking someone you don't? :huh:

Ha and no he wouldn't be a Fox Casting... he actually fits Clint very well and also has a lot of Martian Arts Training as well... I think he could do Clint justics and I'm not alone on that.

[WillardNation]

*subscribes*

[Episode29]

What's wrong with actually liking someone you don't? :huh:

Ha and no he wouldn't be a Fox Casting... he actually fits Clint very well and also has a lot of Martian Arts Training as well... I think he could do Clint justics and I'm not alone on that.

...and yet you just admitted he's only a "decent" actor. (Which, in itself, is very charitable considering his past track record.)

[louiebling$]

...and yet you just admitted he's only a "decent" actor. (Which, in itself, is very charitable considering his past track record.)
Yes he is decent... but there was a time when Renner was decent who's to say Cam can't reach that level?

With the talent that's on board with Thor and Avengers alike they could help him to be a better actor,that happens you know... a decent actor gets but into a film with a talented supporting cast and he comes out looking like a star,that's how actors break out ya know.

[xmfreak86]

I know this is a bit of a curveball and not exactly the right body type but with the announcement of Jeremy Renner maybe getting a part as Hawkeye.... I was thinking about Marvel's tendency for distraction. What I mean is it is pretty out of leftfield to all of sudden be hearing about Hawkeye when we havent even heard a peep about CA casting... While I am probably totally wrong about this... Could we maybe be seeing our own CA instead? I mean both 28 weeks later and The Hurt Locker showed he has the leadership, acting and gravitas to bring to CA imo...

Plus he never really specified in the article what part Marvel was actually looking into him for... hmmm...:huh:

[[A]]

Where is my.. wait, is this a *different* thread..?

[Episode29]

Yes he is decent... but there was a time when Renner was decent who's to say Cam can't reach that level?

With the talent that's on board with Thor and Avengers alike they could help him to be a better actor,that happens you know... a decent actor gets but into a film with a talented supporting cast and he comes out looking like a star,that's how actors break out ya know.

Yes, but there are usually flashes of potential prior to breaking through. Renner has a history of strong work, with memorable appearances in "North Country", "Dahmer", "Assassination of Jesse James", "28 Weeks Later" and "The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things".

Cam was out-acted by the entire cast of "The Unborn", "Twilight" and was a vapid and one-note in "Never Back Down".

[Blackman]

What?

Cam would make a Great Hawkeye.. I kind of wanted a young Hawkeye.

I wish they would have casted this role younger but nonetheless Renner is an Amazing Actor and a sold choice for Clint.

:up:


I too thought they were going to cast younger with Cap and Hawkeye. I always thought that would be an interesting thing to see how Cap is young but is very responsible while Hawkeye is cocky. It wouldve been cool to see the difference between 2 young males from different eras


But I mean Renner is good. So Im not mad at all. Hope he gets an Oscar nom for Hurt Locker

[louiebling$]

Yea your right RENNER had some good work before.

And yea I hated Cam in Twilight his probably his worst performance. I thought he was decent in the Unborn and I really liked him in never back down, I also liked his work on The O.C.

[louiebling$]

:up:


I too thought they were going to cast younger with Cap and Hawkeye. I always thought that would be an interesting thing to see how Cap is young but is very responsible while Hawkeye is cocky. It wouldve been cool to see the difference between 2 young males from different eras


But I mean Renner is good. So Im not mad at all. Hope he gets an Oscar nom for Hurt Locker
I didn't mention it on this thread it was on the other Renner thread but I'm not mad at all in renner being Hawkeye the man is Talented as hell and we would super lucky to get him as Clint. My only gripe would be that I wanted a younger Hawkeye for reasons that Blackman just mentioned.

[WillardNation]

I didn't mention it on this thread it was on the other Renner thread but I'm not mad at all in renner being Hawkeye the man is Talented as hell and we would super lucky to get him as Clint. My only gripe would be that I wanted a younger Hawkeye for reasons that Blackman just mentioned.

Agreed.

[chris moore]

Not a fan of this potential casting, gotta be honest. He's an okay actor from what I've seen. But his overall size and build just seem a little small for what I envision as Hawkeye

[Project862006]

the ultimate look is the way to go imo

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2168/112ultimatecomicsavenge.jpg

[Superhero 101]

Renner wouldn't be a bad Hawkeye but isn't he kind of short?

[terry78]

Renner wouldn't be a bad Hawkeye but isn't he kind of short?


If you got accuracy like he does, you don't need to be tall.

[Obi-Ron]

the ultimate look is the way to go imo

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2168/112ultimatecomicsavenge.jpg

I see Cap, but where's Hawkeye? :huh:

[Project862006]

he is the dude below cap lol that is what ultimate hawkeye looks like here are more pictures:

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7899/105ultimatecomicsavenge.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7739/ultimates20070724055637.jpg

[cerealkiller182]

Renner would make a kickass Hawkeye. Hes got the attitude and physicality and looks close enough to the character.

How can people really care about his height? Hawkeye never seemed like the tallest guy in the room. Renner is listed as 5'10, pretty average height. And most people are afraid of not getting a tall enough Cap. This easily would broaden the scope of Cap possibilities since you just find someone taller than Renner and shorter than Hemsworth , and he'll look the right size in relation to the team.

I find it strange though that hes rumored to appear in Thor (which at this point seems shoehorned) instead of Iron Man which he originated in the first place IIRC

[Obi-Ron]

Funny, I could have sworn Hawkeye was an archer. One more reason not to read the Ultimate line, I guess...

[[A]]

Yeah, Purple Arrow as I call him.

[JackIvyGB]

THAT is not Ultimate Hawkeye. THAT is the aftermath of the crap storm Jeph Loeb threw the Ultimate universe through.

THIS:
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq320/JackIvyGB/108917-138190-hawkeye_super.jpg

is Ultimate Hawkeye, and is most definitely a look they should go for when the character shows up on film. Heck, I wouldn't even mind replacing the red with a purple-ish color.

Also, if Hawkeye shows up in Thor, $10 says that it's done similar to how he was introduced to the team in The Ultimates as well, as an agent of SHIELD alongside Nick Fury.

[cerealkiller182]

I think the only movie that has a chance of introducing him as anything but a SHIELD operative is Iron Man, only because in the comics he started out as a thief of Starktech IIRC

[Congo Jack]

The only things I've seen this guy in were Pitt's JESSE JAMES movie and that episode of ANGEL. Seems like a good choice, though I'd have to see his break-out role in THE HURT LOCKER before I'd be ready to proclaim him perfect or anything.

I was getting pretty excited about the thought that Hawkeye might appear in THOR, but think back to just under a year ago when there were reports coming in that Clint was going to have much more than a cameo in IRON MAN 2. With this in mind, I don't expect to see him until AVENGERS.

Either way, :up: on Renner potentially playing Clint.

[the dmg]

Renner was great in "Dahmer" as well as being a good fit for most of the characters he's played, like in "SWAT" and "28 Weeks Later."

[jab1118]

I always pictured hawkey as a taller leaner guy

[terry78]

And I pictured Wolverine as a short hairy guy.

[JackIvyGB]

New interview with Renner on the front page of the site! He talks about how he's excited to possibly play the part, but explains that while they may bring Hawkeye out for a pre avengers cameo, it's really a role that is big in the Avengers movie, and they haven't hired a director for that yet, so the concern is that the forthcoming avengers director may have someone else in mind for the role, so they don't want to cast for a bit cameo ahead of time, and rather cast for the bigger role in Avengers.

Also, my favorite part of the interview, he talks a bit about what to expect from the costume and lookwise for Hawkeye, which sounds like they're going for something along the lines of the original look for Ultimate Hawkeye:

"Yeah, but it's going to be modernized, it's not going to be the guy with the big purple (mask), it's not going to be a guy in tights. It's going to be a guy in sunglasses and a vest. He's going to be more modernized and I'm gonna say, 'A cooler-looking version' and not the big weird costume he had on. I don't think they're going that route."

:awesome:

Sounds like their going to dip it in awesomesauce. I like awesomesauce.

Awesomesauce inspires me to draw things...

Speaking of Ultimate Hawkeye, I think it'd be cool if they kept the aspect that Hawkeye has a family like in the Ultimate books. They don't have to kill them like in the books, but I think it'd be cool because it's an angle that isn't really explored often. I think it'd make for a touching scene to see Clint heading to "work" and kissing his wife and son goodbye, and then coming home, tucking his son into bed with stories of how he and Captain America drilled Loki into the ground alongside Thor and his mystic viking army :awesome:

[Stripesy Strip]

THAT is not Ultimate Hawkeye. THAT is the aftermath of the crap storm Jeph Loeb threw the Ultimate universe through.

THIS:
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq320/JackIvyGB/108917-138190-hawkeye_super.jpg

is Ultimate Hawkeye, and is most definitely a look they should go for when the character shows up on film. Heck, I wouldn't even mind replacing the red with a purple-ish color.

Also, if Hawkeye shows up in Thor, $10 says that it's done similar to how he was introduced to the team in The Ultimates as well, as an agent of SHIELD alongside Nick Fury.

Sorry but THAT is not Hawkeye to me. It's just some dude with a a bow and arrows.

[Stripesy Strip]

New interview with Renner on the front page of the site! He talks about how he's excited to possibly play the part, but explains that while they may bring Hawkeye out for a pre avengers cameo, it's really a role that is big in the Avengers movie, and they haven't hired a director for that yet, so the concern is that the forthcoming avengers director may have someone else in mind for the role, so they don't want to cast for a bit cameo ahead of time, and rather cast for the bigger role in Avengers.

Also, my favorite part of the interview, he talks a bit about what to expect from the costume and lookwise for Hawkeye, which sounds like they're going for something along the lines of the original look for Ultimate Hawkeye:



:awesome:

Sounds like their going to dip it in awesomesauce. I like awesomesauce.

Awesomesauce inspires me to draw things...


More like ultimatizes the whole thing into crapitude.

[Dog Brother #1]

Brace yourselves for the waves of "Ultimate Hawkeye is not my Hawkeye" and "HINO" posts. Let the $#!+ storm begin! Lol

[NoirMan82]

THAT is not Ultimate Hawkeye. THAT is the aftermath of the crap storm Jeph Loeb threw the Ultimate universe through.

THIS:
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq320/JackIvyGB/108917-138190-hawkeye_super.jpg

is Ultimate Hawkeye, and is most definitely a look they should go for when the character shows up on film. Heck, I wouldn't even mind replacing the red with a purple-ish color.

Also, if Hawkeye shows up in Thor, $10 says that it's done similar to how he was introduced to the team in The Ultimates as well, as an agent of SHIELD alongside Nick Fury.

Whoa! Anyone notice how Ultimate Hawkeye actually looks a lot like Renner in this picture?

[TheVileOne]

Hm, not sure what to think about this. I mean, we've grown to love Hawkeye over the years for a reason. I hope he's not a complete translation of the ultimate version.

[Congo Jack]

I love Hitch's costume design for Ultimate Hawkeye so I don't have a problem with using that design, though I would use purple for the arrow shape on his chest. I also think having Hawkeye as an agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s black ops division is the best way to introduce him in the movies. The most important thing to retain from the original Hawkeye is his personality and attitude.

[jarosso]

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1161/hawkeye.jpg Hawkeye colors by Photoshop, for me, What do you think?

[TheVileOne]

I just don't want them to go the route of Ultimate since they already did that with Nick Fury.

[Hotspot]

Jeremy Renner would make an awsome Hawkeye. I could imagine him as Fury's right hand man in the End of Thor. (Witch I would imagine being similar to the after-the-credits scene of Ironman) Just standing their as a badass flipping his gun. They should definately lean towards the Ultimate version with personality traits of the main universe version.

[TheVileOne]

Why does he need to start out that way?

Remember how Hawkeye started guys? Remember how Black Widow started in the comics is sort of accurate to how she is in the movie.

[Blader5489]

Nice to hear that they're leaning towards the Ultimate Hawkeye costume, though it was obvious that they would. The 616 costume is way too ridiculous looking for a live action movie.

Even nicer to hear that Jeremy Renner is in talks for the part. He was outstanding in The Hurt Locker, I'd love to see him as Hawkeye.

[Rain]

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/RANDOMmutant/hawkeye2.jpg

[Stripesy Strip]

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1161/hawkeye.jpg Hawkeye colors by Photoshop, for me, What do you think?

That's the problem right here. Smallville nailed down Ultimate Hawkeye's visuals. Doing something similar only purple would be a joke.

If anything, I would go the opposite root and give him a wilder, long hair, indian-inspired outfit. Clint could be this wild, uncounquering spirit instead of the controled guy that Smalville Green Arrow is. Have Josh Holloway play him.

[Dog Brother #1]

I'm not sure I like that idea at all. That seems like change purely for the sake of change, with not much basis in the source material. The amount of the GA that's even seen Smallville's Ollie is minimal. And no matter what version you go with, some amount of comparison with Green Arrow is inevitable. Best to not worry aout that and do the best version possible.

[not_a_victim]

This is wrong, all wrong. Renner should not be Hawkeye.
Clint Barton is supposed to be the strongest, most agile human being in the Marvel universe that is not chemically enhanced/mutated/built from scratch, etc.
Renner just does not do that for me.

[terry78]

This is wrong, all wrong. Renner should not be Hawkeye.
Clint Barton is supposed to be the strongest, most agile human being in the Marvel universe that is not chemically enhanced/mutated/built from scratch, etc.
Renner just does not do that for me.

Barton is far from the only one in the Marvelverse that fits that description.

[CaptainStacy]

If anything, I would go the opposite root and give him a wilder indian-inspired outfit.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/CaptainStacy/avengers102hawka.jpg

[bored]

Oh lord, the carnival outfit. NO. No headband and skirt with v-neck. I'm happy they're probably going with the Ultimate look, because the closest thing to practical he's had in 616 was his combo Hawkeye/Ronin look in the recent "Might Avengers" ark he appeared in.

[Blackman]

So is Renner officially Hawkeye or what

[Chewy]

What

[TheVileOne]

well the movie's still over like 2 years away. I don't think they will be filming until like 2011.

Unless we are supposed to see Hawkeye earlier ;) .

[Ace of Knaves]

This is wrong, all wrong. Renner should not be Hawkeye.
Clint Barton is supposed to be the strongest, most agile human being in the Marvel universe that is not chemically enhanced/mutated/built from scratch, etc.
Renner just does not do that for me.

They could do A LOT worse than Renner for Hawkeye.

I think he would be great. He's got that cocky but not full on arrogant vibe about him. And he is obviously great at playing soldier types. And at the end of the day he's just a fantastic up and coming actor. I don't see how anyone could have a problem with him in the role.

[TheVileOne]

That'd be fine, I'm just not cool on Ultimate Hawkeye.

[alexdunn]

I think he's a near perfect choice for the role. I'm really excited to see Hawkeye brought to the screen, whatever interpretation.

[Steve Holt]

just watched SWAT, i hope Renner gets this role

[Project862006]

Bradley Cooper would'nt be a bad Hawkeye while watching a team trailer :

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/ateampic2small.jpg

[chris moore]

Oddly I think Cooper would make either a good Hawkeye or Green Arrow. Both similar personalities, though Ollie is more shouty than Clint, and Clint is more cocky than Ollie.

[alexdunn]

Yeah Cooper would be great for Green Arrow.

[marvel_freshman]

Nick Fury - Samuel L. Jackson

Black Widow - Scarlett Johansson

Hawkeye - Gabriel Macht - Hawkeye
http://i50.tinypic.com/dr3ts6.jpg
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/events/ALO-048100.jpg

[Majik1387]

Cooper sucks.

I'm not liking the Ultimate thing either, but at least Renner's a casting I can get behind.:up:

[louiebling$]

Cooper is Awesome... He is my number one choice for Haweye.... then Ackles.

[louiebling$]

Cooper is Awesome... He is my number one choice for Haweye.... then Ackles.

[Chewy]

:awesome::awesome::awesome::awesome::awesome::awes ome::awesome::awesome::awesome::awesome:

Jeremy Renner is in final negotiations to join "The Avengers," Marvel Studios' big-screen take on its superhero team that's being directed by Joss Whedon.

Renner will play the bow-and-arrow-carrying hero Hawkeye, who, while not one of the initial members of the team when it was created in the 1960s, became an integral member soon after when the misguided villain switched sides.

Renner will join Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man/Tony Stark, Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Chris Evans as Captain America, Scarlett Johansson as the Black Widow, Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury and Don Cheadle as War Machine.

The Hulk may also be a character in the movie, but at this stage, there is no deal that would bring back Ed Norton, who starred as the emerald giant in 2008's "The Incredible Hulk."

Renner's involvement was initially rumored last fall, although the actor, who was in the middle of the awards derby with his war thriller "The Hurt Locker," was at the time more taken with Paul Thomas Anderson's untitled drama and was being heavily courted by Universal for "Battleship."

Renner never joined "Battleship," and while he still has definite interest in Anderson's film, that project is still cobbling financing and has seen its start pushed back several times.

Renner saw a chance to take on work in a role that, while key, is not starring in nature and will allow him to slide into Anderson's film if it should come together.

To keep costs manageable for the "Avengers," Marvel is trying to keep a lid on the movie's finances and the actors are taking salary cuts, according to insiders.

Renner, repped by CAA and Untitled Entertainment, next appears in Ben Affleck's "The Town."

Marvel did not confirm that Renner is in negotiations.SOURCE (http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/06/jeremy-renner-poised-to-join-marvels-avengers.html)


Now get on that deal with Norton and we're set, Marvel!

[JP]

Awesome.

[Nirvana]

Good choice for sure. :up:

[Rock Sexton]

Kind of funny how the two newest cast additions are playing characters who's origins were in the circus haha.

[Congo Jack]

Jeremy Renner is in final negotiations to join "The Avengers," Marvel Studios' big-screen take on its superhero team that's being directed by Joss Whedon.
Nice.

[Jake Cassidy]

Great ****in' news

[Jake Cassidy]

Kind of funny how the two newest cast additions are playing characters who's origins were in the circus haha.

Two? Who's the other one?

[Dark Raven]

Two? Who's the other one?

Dum Dum: circus strongman.

[UnkillableMick]

Never doubted this, but nice news nonetheless.

[chris moore]

Renner might be okay. But I'd prefer Cooper - he just seems more gung ho and fun loving, but with charm; just like how Clint should be

[terry78]

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1661/tofightgranddad1.jpg


I'M EXCITED, NYYYYYYYYYKKKKKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAAA!!!!!





Honestly, Renner is an excellent actor. And adding Hawkeye's persona to the mix to go along with Stark is going to be hilarity.


One of the mods may as well turn this into the Jeremy Renner/Hawkeye thread so we have one place to discuss the character, weaponry, portrayal, costume, etc. Because we gonna have about fifty different threads discussing each thing come later on today.

[Chewy]

I wonder how the "Hawkeye isn't wearing his classic mask! NOOOOOOO!" meltdown will compare to the "Cap doesn't have his wings! NOOOOOOO!" meltdown

[chris moore]

Be nice to see some manips of semi-faithful 616 Hawkeye costumes. But not ones that are simply a purple version of Smallville's Green Arrow

[Chewy]

I think we'll see something closer to his House of M costume than his classic costume, only without the mask.

[chris moore]

I'd rather Hawkeye doesn't have goggles, high tech or otherwise. I don't want bionic eyes, laser sights, machine pistols, or HUD's in his glasses or anything.

[louiebling$]

Renner might be okay. But I'd prefer Cooper - he just seems more gung ho and fun loving, but with charm; just like how Clint should be Yea I wanted Bradley Cooper too :csad:

But Renner is still a solid choice :up:


I wonder how the "Hawkeye isn't wearing his classic mask! NOOOOOOO!" meltdown will compare to the "Cap doesn't have his wings! NOOOOOOO!" meltdown
Hey :cmad:

[Son of Coul]

I'd dig Hawkeye having some kickass goggles. I'd be willing to bet Hawkeye will be a hit with teen audiences in The Avengers and would warrant a SHIELD movie even more. Like I've said, a SHIELD movie featuring Nick Fury, Black Widow, and Hawkeye in the leads could be great.

[Doctor Jones]

I seriously hope the costume isn't purple. It can have some traces of it. But a complete purple costume in live action would be the equivalent of yellow spandex in live action. Bad.

And they need to change the mask. I can already hear fanboy outcry over it. Oh, boy.

[louiebling$]

Edit

[louiebling$]

I think we'll see something closer to his House of M costume than his classic costume, only without the mask.
I actually love his House of M costume :up:

[Dark Raven]

Chris Evans could've been good as Hawkeye. I can't imagine him being the serious one and Jeremy Renner being the young upstart that he has to reign in.

[Chewy]

I seriously hope the costume isn't purple. It can have some traces of it. But a complete purple costume in live action would be the equivalent of yellow spandex in live action. Bad.
Haha, I remember similar statements being made prior to another comic book movie...
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9796/darkknightposter.jpg

[chris moore]

The purple bodysuit Ultimate Hawkeye currently wears would absolutely suck, and would not translate well. A mostly dark blue one, with similar basis to the new Cap movie suit (in terms of the tightness - not the shoulders, straps, helmet etc) with purple hints/quiver straps/arm brace etc could work. Might even be possible to include the loincloth/flap thing without making it horrific too.

[bored]

Honestly, Hawkeye is one case where I'd be fine seeing a closer interpretation of the Ultimate look than 616. All that purple only works for me on the page because I'm so used to it.

[Raiden]

Although I think Bradley Cooper would've been a good Clint Barton, Jeremy Renner is a very good actor, and I like his addition to the Avengers cast. Right now my concern is that with a cast so large (and we haven't even gotten to the villains yet), Whedon will not be able to handle it, because unlike X-Men the Avengers have the Big Three and a few support characters only. I hope Marvel will be able to figure out what to do, because this is the movie they've been building toward and I don't want them to mess it up.

[samsnee]

It'll be interesting if they make him a bad guy at first and then decides to become a hero or if he just shows up as an established agent of Shield like Black Widow.

In the comics, his character works as part of the Avengers because you have an ongoing series to establish his necessity to the team. But in this movie, you have a guy who can shoot lasers and fly, a genetically enhanced super-soldier, a god-like entity, and a 10-ft tall monster. Exactly why do they need a guy who can shoot a bow and arrow?

[KangConquers]

It'll be interesting if they make him a bad guy at first and then decides to become a hero or if he just shows up as an established agent of Shield like Black Widow.

In the comics, his character works as part of the Avengers because you have an ongoing series to establish his necessity to the team. But in this movie, you have a guy who can shoot lasers and fly, a genetically enhanced super-soldier, a god-like entity, and a 10-ft tall monster. Exactly why do they need a guy who can shoot a bow and arrow?

I'd make all normal humans SHIELD liasons to the avengers.

[Spider-Vader]

Hawkeye is one of the best marksman in Marvel. With no Bullseye, in the movie universe that'd make him THE best. I think they could find use for him on the team.

[terry78]

The best route for them to go is to split the difference between 616 and Ultimate. Make him an expert in creating weapons out of basically anything lying around, basically a more advanced Bullseye. But the arrows, while he has a finite number, are used when he really needs to mess somebody up. Other than that, he can just cause damage with everyday items.

[Chewy]

If we see something along these lines on the big screen I may openly weep

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/avengers/223-2.jpg

[Kingfish]

You make him a believable film character obviously but that doesn't mean you have to use him as that cheap Bullseye ripoff.

[Majik1387]

Thank god its not someone horrid like Cooper or Holloway.:up:

[louiebling$]

The best route for them to go is to split the difference between 616 and Ultimate. Make him an expert in creating weapons out of basically anything lying around, basically a more advanced Bullseye. But the arrows, while he has a finite number, are used when he really needs to mess somebody up. Other than that, he can just cause damage with everyday items.
Yea I was thinking this also make him like Hawkeye obviously but with a Mix of McGuyver :awesome:

[chris moore]

The good thing about the Avengers is that we don't have to worry so much about building the characters of the big three, or even Fury, up to the point where we know enough about them to know why they're there and how they might work in a team. This gives the supporting cast more opportunity to have moments with one of the big three that keeps the focus on the big three member in that scene, but uses it to build up the secondary character so that by the end of the second act we care about them and want to see them again.

I would be happy with Hawkeye being an existing S.H.I.E.L.D agent who gets promoted to the Avengers Initiative due to the events early on in the film, or has been because of his situation.
Maybe he used to be a special forces operative, who went through one of those situations that happens all too often nowadays - he was in Afghanistan and was faced with a child wearing an explosive vest. He had no choice but to shoot him, and because it was so close range and he wasn't exactly using a pea shooter, there was no way the kid was going to survive.
Unable to reconcile himself with what he'd had to do, Barton became unable to kill on the battlefield, and became a liability to his unit. At this time Fury recruits him into SHIELD as he still sees a great soldier in there and it avoids a discharge for psychological medical reasons. Already an expert marksman with conventional weaponry, Hawkeye is encouraged to find another weapon that he can adapt his skills to, but that has non lethal potential so that he might one day be useful out in the field again. They never expected the level of excellence and accuracy he displays; nor his combination of archery and acrobatics or his innovations in tinkering with regular arrows for specialised needs.
At this time Fury has just had the premise of the Avengers Initiative come across his desk. Superheroes - public figures in dealing with threats. But there aren't really any heroes out there yet - not since the first one way back during WWII. Just rumours and urban legends. He recognises Hawkeye's skill set could be ideal in portraying a non lethal response that the public would accept and admire, rather than squads of military garbed, assault rifle carrying soldiers running through city streets on non-war related missions. And including some existing SHIELD agents, even if virtually every team member is a superpowered individual, means for some measure of directorate control over what could essentially be a pool of hotshot, superpowered, showboating loners.

[bored]

The way I look at it, Cap, Thor, and Iron Man will be the final three members brought in, continuity-wise. There'll be a couple of heroes (Hawkeye, BW, hopefully Wasp and Pym) already, since it's been suggested in "Iron Man 2" that Fury already has the makings of a group scouted out, with the Big 3 coming in last to make it something legit. So there won't be the "why do we need an archer" question, because the Avengers won't be presented as stocked with powerhouses early on anyway.

[Doctor Jones]

I'm just worried about balancing all these character and development. This could either be done well or hurt the film. Already having Hawkeye in would be beneficial.

But of course, people will complain some characters won't get enough screentime.

[Aztec]

I'm just worried about balancing all these character and development.

Agreed. I've been yelling this at the top of my lungs for a while now and will continue to do so. If you care about plot, character development, character balance, and most importantly character INTERACTIONS (which is the whole point of a film where you bringing 4 franchises together) then you need LESS CHARACTERS.

Let's be honest, how much is Hawkeye (a guy who uses a weapon that hasn't been cutting edge in 6 centuries) going to add to the team? To the story? To the film overall? Very little. This is mere fan service and unfortunately will likely backfire IMHO.

[Son of Coul]

I think they can manage Hawkeye if they make him a SHIELD agent who doesn't see eye to eye with Cap on his old-fashioned ways, but not make him a dick. He and BW shouldn't be on the team, just high-class SHIELD agents. I do love though how the people going "THE AVENGERS HAVE TO BE IRON MAN, THOR, CAP, HULK, ANT-MAN, WASP, SCARLETT WITCH, QUICKSILVER, BLACK WIDOW AND HAWKEYE OR IT WON'T BE THE REAL AVENGERS" are the first to complain about overstuffing characters in SM3, X3, and even IM2 (even if I disagree with that one).

[terry78]

Barton doesn't have to join the team right off the bat. He could just be part of the SHIELD team as mentioned. If some crisis takes place, maybe he jumps in the fray to help, but he doesn't become a full fledged member until like maybe the end, or Fury puts him on there as a second set of eyes to somewhat keep tabs on them.

[Rock Sexton]

Agreed. I've been yelling this at the top of my lungs for a while now and will continue to do so. If you care about plot, character development, character balance, and most importantly character INTERACTIONS (which is the whole point of a film where you bringing 4 franchises together) then you need LESS CHARACTERS.

Let's be honest, how much is Hawkeye (a guy who uses a weapon that hasn't been cutting edge in 6 centuries) going to add to the team? To the story? To the film overall? Very little. This is mere fan service and unfortunately will likely backfire IMHO.

A little worried about this myself. Especially when asking a young director, who's never taken on a big budget project like this before.

[terry78]

A little worried about this myself. Especially when asking a young director, who's never taken on a big budget project like this before.

They all gotta start somewhere.

[nocomics]

I'm just worried about balancing all these character and development. This could either be done well or hurt the film. Already having Hawkeye in would be beneficial.

But of course, people will complain some characters won't get enough screentime.
This.
Haveing too many villains and heros could take away from screentime and any type of continuity of the film,and characters.
Though;having individual films for most of the Avengers would hopefully nullify any backstory needed for the individual characters except for a select few.

[flickchick85]

Thank god its not someone horrid like Cooper or Holloway.:up:
Agreed. While I don't think either of them are necessarily "horrid" as you do, I'm still 10x more excited about this character now with Renner than I would be if either of them were on board. Definite upgrade, imo. :up:

[bored]

Agreed. I've been yelling this at the top of my lungs for a while now and will continue to do so. If you care about plot, character development, character balance, and most importantly character INTERACTIONS (which is the whole point of a film where you bringing 4 franchises together) then you need LESS CHARACTERS.

Let's be honest, how much is Hawkeye (a guy who uses a weapon that hasn't been cutting edge in 6 centuries) going to add to the team? To the story? To the film overall? Very little. This is mere fan service and unfortunately will likely backfire IMHO.


Agreed that a lot of characters would equal fan service, but if you think a character only contributes their weapon to the story, you really don't know anything about them.

[terry78]

If they keep his "former villain" thing going, then he will have a lot more going on than just being a bow and arrow guy. His mindset is often much more blunt and brutally honest than everyone else's as well. Even Stark would be like, "damn, chill out."

[Rock Sexton]

They all gotta start somewhere.

Think about what you're saying ..... a crossover film with hordes of characters from the comics, whom purists will be CRYING to get tons of screen time for ..... big budget ..... big effects ..... and directed by a man who's done nothing but cheesy TV shows.

Again, do the SMART thing and keep it simple for the guy. Let him make do with a "core" instead of a legion.

[Chewy]

I think they can manage Hawkeye if they make him a SHIELD agent who doesn't see eye to eye with Cap on his old-fashioned ways, but not make him a dick. He and BW shouldn't be on the team, just high-class SHIELD agents.
I agree, I see it playing out a bit like Ultimates (I know people cringe at the mention of Ultimates, but still). HE/BW will most likely be SHIELD agents who do the recon/behind the scenes work while the "celebrity" Avengers (Stark, Rogers, Thor) are the face of the team, but at the end of the movie whatever confrontation will force them into the limelight along with the big three and make them full-fledged members.

[Matt Mortem]

I agree, I see it playing out a bit like Ultimates (I know people cringe at the mention of Ultimates, but still). HE/BW will most likely be SHIELD agents who do the recon/behind the scenes work while the "celebrity" Avengers (Stark, Rogers, Thor) are the face of the team, but at the end of the movie whatever confrontation will force them into the limelight along with the big three and make them full-fledged members.
I agree with this. I hope this idea makes it into the film

[Son of Coul]

Yeah well I much, much prefer to keep to 616 continuity for source material, there's no denying there are good ideas in the Ultimate universe to mine.

[Kingfish]

Using that as his background is fine. Better than the circus anyway. There's just no reason to make him Bullseye with his abilities.

[Doctor Jones]

If they go the route Chewy mentioned, I'd be fine with that. Him staying behind to do stuff with Fury is fine.

He could be the cool guy at long distance taking out guys so the face of the team can move in or soemthing. Something covert.

[misjuevos]

i remember when renner was a vampire on angel, now look at him,lol

[chris moore]

Think about what you're saying ..... a crossover film with hordes of characters from the comics, whom purists will be CRYING to get tons of screen time for ..... big budget ..... big effects ..... and directed by a man who's done nothing but cheesy TV shows.

Again, do the SMART thing and keep it simple for the guy. Let him make do with a "core" instead of a legion.

I think 5-7 Avengers will be fine - because we have to assume they won't make the X-Men mistake of making an ensemble movie ALL about just one character. X-1 could have been a lot better, but of course they took the Wolverine cash-cow route and made him the viewers eyes, him the love interest, him the father figure, him the main action guy, him the key to victory.

As I've said before - the beauty of this film is that we will already know a helluva lot about three of the main figures, and some about one (Natasha). That makes it easier to explore their ability to work together, and that allows for pre-existing team members, who we know nothing about yet, to be the ones who bridge that gap between character introduction and becoming a team. We know the big three, but they don't know one another. We don't know Hank, Jan, Clint or Natasha - but they already work together and have to get the big three to do that too.

[R_Hythlodeus]

so renner is officially confirmed now?

[chris moore]

Even less so than the concept art for Cap and Thor being the final designs

[samsnee]

If they do go the "Hawkeye is already a member of Shield" route, I have a feeling that his costume will basically be all black, ala Black Widow. If he's just another Shield agent and not a superhero that needs to be recruited, it wouldn't make sense for him to have is own unique costume. As long as it doesn't look like he should be in the GI Joe movie, I'll be ok with it. I think his costume would be harder to translate to film than Cap's.

[chris moore]

Although... in Iron Man 2, Black Widow didn't have a codename, and was a full time, full duty type SHIELD agent. If she and Hawkeye became Avengers, through them being the absolute best of SHIELD's field agents, then they would likely be assigned code names and more individual uniforms that speak to their skill sets

[Chewy]

It may not have been "officially" announced by Marvel but if Hollywood Reporter says he's in final negotiations, then he's in final negotiations. Marvel still hasn't "officially" announced Whedon, either.

I'd expect them to confirm both Whedon and Renner (and maybe whoever is playing the Pyms) at comic-con.

[Doctor Jones]

Good God, people seriously want Renner running around in goddamn purple in live action?

:lmao:

[chris moore]

Nobody's saying they want the Ultimate Hawkeye purple body stocking. Or even the classic birds eye/wolverine mask.

But I for one don't want the sleeveless black leather with the red V on the front, or military fatigues

[Kingfish]

Where did anyone say they wanted him in a purple bodysuit or the mask?

[chris moore]

Just commenting on what Doctor Jones said about people wanting Renner running round in purple

[Kingfish]

That's what I meant. Did anyone here actually say they wanted those things? Or did Doctor Jones just jump to some random conclusion?

[Spider-Vader]

I don't want him in purple tights, but I want some purple on him. I'm sure Marvel will do it anyway, Hawkeye's probably only in for fan service.

[Son of Coul]

Pretty stunning how everybody wanted Cap's outlandish uniform to be EXACTLY like the books, but with Hawkeye everyone's pretty much unanimously like "Nah, purple's far too crazy, just stick him in SHIELD clothes."

[Chewy]

Don't worry, once we get our first look at Renner in costume they'll come out of the woodwork and complain about the disrespect Marvel is showing its own character and how without his mask his silhouette is generic and everyone knows silhouettes are 50% of what a person sees when they look at a character

[Majik1387]

I want his mask and I want purple on his costume, I don't care what anyone here says.

People who are anti purple on him are sounding like the bat boards before the Joker image was released.

[marcvader]

Hawkeye is a tier or two under Cap and not deserving of the fanatical reverence Cap gets so I don't think people would get up in arms if he's not wearing a carboncopy of what he wears in the comics. Although you'll still get a few nutjobs screaming bloody murder. That being said I don't want to see him in some generic black leather getup either.

[Nathan]

I want his mask and I want purple on his costume, I don't care what anyone here says.

People who are anti purple on him are sounding like the bat boards before the Joker image was released.

There were actually people that were Anti-purple for the Joker?

[Majik1387]

There were actually people that were Anti-purple for the Joker?
Yeah. They were saying a purple suit could never work in Nolan's Bat-world, that it would look too goofy and unrealistic and out of place, even for the Joker...

[Nathan]

Wow... it's a ****ing suit. There are celebrities that wear weirder ****. Can't believe people were actually against purple. For Hawkeye I don't mind purple, as long as they give him something else to hide his face.

[chris moore]

Hawkeye has had so many versions of his costume that there isn't really an iconic look outside of the colour scheme. And there it can be played with a bit to mute the purple a bit, or be selective about which parts are purple. For instance using a predominantly blue suit with purple bits such as gauntlets/arm brace, mask highlights, chest guard etc.

For the mask, how about a full face mask but with the traditional Hawkeye eye shapes incorporated into it like Deadpool's eye patchy things? Kind of wrapping around the mask or something.

[Majik1387]

Hawkeye has had so many versions of his costume that there isn't really an iconic look outside of the colour scheme. And there it can be played with a bit to mute the purple a bit, or be selective about which parts are purple. For instance using a predominantly blue suit with purple bits such as gauntlets/arm brace, mask highlights, chest guard etc.
Exactly.:up:
For the mask, how about a full face mask but with the traditional Hawkeye eye shapes incorporated into it like Deadpool's eye patchy things? Kind of wrapping around the mask or something.
I just find that lazy honestly.
I'm not saying the wings need to be totally big and out there, but I don't see a problem with a visible, movable mask.

[resists Deadpool insult]

[chris moore]

I like this first style of doing the "eye wings" more than these two other past efforts. Less stuck on the front like a terrible operatic masquerade ball mask and more integral and wrapped.
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2885/hawkeyemask.jpg

[Majik1387]

I'm honestly just not liking the wrapped idea.

[OptimusPrime114]

I remember when Renner was a vampire on "Angel". Now look at him lol

Now that you mention it, do any of you guys think that Joss may have had a part in bringing in Renner for Hawkeye?

[IronNuts2]

Hey guys, here are a couple of photo manips showing what I think a Jeremy Renner SHIELD member hawkeye could look like (sorry if the embedds don't work, first time posting). The first shows 4 facial variations ranging from Ultimates to 616. Spoiler tag added for the benefit of page width.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4331/hawkeyep.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/i/hawkeyep.jpg/)
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These last two are movie posters with the first being what I think is most popular (Ultimates V. 1) and the second being my favorite and what appears to be many people's, the full mask. I hope you like them! Click on thumbnails for larger views.


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[chris moore]

Very impressed IronNuts. I like that you've retained a good deal of purple but made it less obvious and garish by mixing with the darker colours. And I really like that you've managed to incorporate the lap cloth

No chance you could do one with a recurve bow though? I can't stand compounds. They might double power without doubling effort, but they become all about the mechanics rather than pure skill, and are the slowest type of bow to string an arrow - not great for a rapid fire archer like Clint needs to be

[Majik1387]

I like them a lot. If what we get from the movie is anything close to what we're getting, count me excited. :up:

[Chewy]

Now that you mention it, do any of you guys think that Joss may have had a part in bringing in Renner for Hawkeye?
No. Renner has been talking to Marvel about it since last year, and he's said himself that Zak Penn is the one who brought him into the conversation (so I guess some good did come out of hiring Penn to write this movie, even if it has nothing to do with the script :hehe:)

[chris moore]

Throw at the start of your link text, and at the end - then everyone can see them here

[IronNuts2]

Thanks Chris!
Sorry about the size, preserving page width... You can click on the image for a zoomed in view!
Recurve bow:

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/575/hawkeyerecurve.th.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/i/hawkeyerecurve.jpg/)
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[Chewy]

Can you put [spoiler] tags around them so they don't make the page 5 times wider than it normally is?

Great work on them, though

[louiebling$]

Hey guys, here are a couple of photo manips showing what I think a Jeremy Renner SHIELD member hawkeye could look like (sorry if the embedds don't work, first time posting). The first shows 4 facial variations ranging from Ultimates to 616. Spoiler tag added for the benefit of page width.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4331/hawkeyep.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/i/hawkeyep.jpg/)
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These last two are movie posters with the first being what I think is most popular (Ultimates V. 1) and the second being my favorite and what appears to be many people's, the full mask. I hope you like them! Click on thumbnails for larger views.


http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/579/hawkeyemovieposter.th.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/hawkeyemovieposter.jpg/)
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Nice Works :up:

[Doctor Jones]

That's what I meant. Did anyone here actually say they wanted those things? Or did Doctor Jones just jump to some random conclusion?

Come on man, when the first costume is released, people will ***** about the lack of purple.

[OptimusPrime114]

Keep talking about purple and someone's bound to bring up a 1980s icon who is second to the late, great Michael Jackson.

[chris moore]

If they released a costume like Iron Nuts2 has come up with, I don't think I'd complain. It has purple enough, but subdued and well placed. The head gear I think is what I'll have the hardest time with. I think we can all mostly agree that the traditional eye wings just won't work. But at the same time I don't want fancy sunglasses.

I might do away with the chest guard though - more commonly worn by female archers anyway, and it would open up the cool looking purple area he's done there.

[cerealkiller182]

I love that Renner got cast.

[Danalys]

looking at recent x-men covers i think a hawkeye mask could work if shaped right (from comparison to wolverine's mask.) but i'm in no way attached to the character or his look so they can change it how ever they like as far as i care. there is a lot of leeway in adapting a comic character to screen in colour tones and detail that wouldn't be drawn. i see it like a costume has to have the reverse done to it that a drawing of a person of vehicle in a comic has done to it. more detail, less exaggeration, realistic tones and material dynamics that illustration cannot capture. from what i've seen marvel studios understands these aspects of adaptation very well anyway.

[King K]

Loved Renner in National Lampoons Senior Trip, SWAT and The Assasination of Jesse James. I don't know jack about Hawkeye but Renner is a great actor.

[Maximillian]

trying to make superhero movies almost plausible and not just some fantasy thing.
Marvel Studios in a nutshell.

[WillardNation]

*subscribes*

[chris moore]

My slight tweaking of IronNuts2's Renner (I know its over in the avengers manips thread, but we need more posts here anyway I reckon):
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6965/hawkeyej.jpg

[cerealkiller182]

That looks pretty good. I think the mask actually looks decent considering its got that weird Wolverine ear-spikes.

[chris moore]

I figure it looks less freaky if it wraps the head a little bit. The covers of the new Hawkeye/Mockingbird do the same thing and it makes it look pretty cool, but still hawk-ish

[Son of Coul]

good for you, def.

edit- noooooo it got deleted.

[Stripesy Strip]

Marvel Studios in a nutshell.

I thought Marvel movies' motto was "trying to do super-hero movies as cheaply as we can". :woot:

[TikkiEXX]

well at least we know Hawkeyes in the movie. im interested to see what his costume looks like since hes worn so many over the years. i also wonder if he,ll be toting around his bow and arrows or just his pistols. id like to see both to be honest, maybe make him an all around expert marksman.

[MelbourneGirl]

So is he going to be at Comic Con? I hope!!

[Chewy]

Whedon confirms Renner (http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/2010/07/joss-whedon-on-the-avengers-jeremy-renner-confirmed-as-hawkeye.html)

[Blackman]

nice :up:

[jmc]

This film is going to cost an effing fortune just with the cast alone.

[marvelrobbins]

Well It appears I was wrong to be skeptical of him being cast.However I have to note they also list Don Chedale as War Machine where we haven't heard confirmation of that.During the Iron man 2 press Junket Don Cheadle even downplayed the Idea of being In The Avengers.However Marvel will further be criticed if Ant-Man and Wasp are not In the film.

[Son of Coul]

When asked about what would happen in The Avengers, Whedon joked: "Killing Iron Man. I'm going to kill him. I kill people. He's wicked popular. You're going to cry, though. I just think it'll be funny. It's a pre-credit sequence. It's kind of wacky. I'm totally kidding. I'm killing Hawkeye.

hahaha

[Doctor Jones]

My God. This is awesome. Even without Norton hopefully the entire cast shows up. Hopefully Renner too. I hope tomorrow proves to be as memorable as I hope it to be.

[Majik1387]

hahaha
lol that's why I love Whedon. I can't wait to see what else he'll say to get fanboy's panties in a twist.:oldrazz:

[Doctor Jones]

He should say that Stark will get the team so drunk that they forget to uthaw Cap.

[Blackman]

You know, aside from the obvious Norton situation, Marvel keeps coming out with good news Renner, Whedon, Garfield & Webb for Spiderman, and Ruffalo (I have faith that he'll be a good replacement) MArvel keeps coming out with good news IMO

[Doctor Jones]

Agreed. I'm giving Ruffalo a chance. If anything he should slim down or if it's genetics he can't help it.

But yeah, Ruffalo is a good actor. I just hope he won't phone it in or anything.

[Blackman]

I hope that Banner's role isnt too small. But I have a bad feeling it is

[Son of Coul]

Really is gonna be distracting seeing Ruffalo though at first. Even with Cheadle I had the recast in the back of my mind his first couple of scenes. I like the meta line they used though, it helped like he said to "deal with it and move on."

[LostSon88]

Well It appears I was wrong to be skeptical of him being cast.However I have to note they also list Don Chedale as War Machine where we haven't heard confirmation of that.During the Iron man 2 press Junket Don Cheadle even downplayed the Idea of being In The Avengers.However Marvel will further be criticed if Ant-Man and Wasp are not In the film.

He's signed for Avengers...you can't get any more 'confirmed' than that. However, having said that, him being under contract is the extent of his involvement--it doesn't necessarily mean he will be in the movie.

IF they want to use War Machine, they can.

[Figs]

Nice news to come home to, Renner as Hawkeye should be pretty damn cool.

[Hunter Rider]

Great piece of casting, he was superb in The Hurt Locker.

[terry78]

Whedon is putting all his ducks in a row at this panel, so hopefully it pans out.

[BizarroAids]

Renner confirmed. NICE!! I'll be happy to see him as Clint.

Nice job, Whedon.

[jmc]

Great piece of casting, he was superb in The Hurt Locker.

Hard to argue.

[FaT_tONle]

If they need to kill someone, probably just kill Hulk. Exile him or throw him into cryo or some **** and launch him into space. Set up a WW Hulk or Defenders movie when he returns.

[Aztec]

I hear Hawkeye won't have a helmet in this film...

[Superhero 101]

This is good news!!! Excited!!

[Microchip]

I hear Hawkeye won't have a helmet in this film...
He better not use HGH.

[Silvermoth]

I hear Hawkeye won't have a helmet in this film...

Well there you go they've RUINED the character. The Avengers franchise is DEAD IN THE WATER! I'm not going to see it and I am Marvel's #1 most important customer! This is a greater outrage than the BP oil spill.

Oh come on like I'm not joking lol

[SPider-T0rch]

I also heard Hawkeye won't have any wings on his head...

[Chewy]

During a SDCC roundtable tonight for Thor (http://movies.ign.com/objects/041/041031.html), Marvel Studios honcho Kevin Feige (http://stars.ign.com/objects/142/14255830.html) addressed the casting of Jeremy Renner (http://stars.ign.com/objects/915/915264.html) as Clint Barton, a.k.a. Hawkeye, in The Avengers (http://movies.ign.com/objects/769/769931.html) and what the cinematic future may hold for Marvel's most famous archer.

"We'd talked to Renner before about the character and it sort of floated around out there and he got nominated [for an Academy Award as Best Actor for The Hurt Locker] and he had this great success with Hurt Locker," Feige recalled.

"And then the rubber sort of hit the road and we realized we were actually going to put this character in The Avengers and we went back to see if he was still interested and he was and we were able to make a deal with him. And we hope to develop a standalone franchise for him after The Avengers."

He added, "Another reason why you go for an actor like Renner is you hope not to just cast an ensemble. It's an ensemble that you hope are rich enough and real enough and the actor can portray and embody this enough that they can crack out and carry their own film."SOURCE (http://movies.ign.com/articles/110/1108388p1.html)

[Matt Mortem]

I dunno about giving Hawkeye his own film series. I definitely could see him in the SHIELD film that's been discussed.

[Majik1387]

Even if it was for a Shield agents movie, Hawkeye would most likely be the lead in it.

[Matt Mortem]

Which I would be 100% ok with. I just don't see him as a solo act. I read a few solo Hawkeye comics and they just weren't very good. Clint works best in an ensemble IMO

[DocHoliday]

Happy to see this. Having Renner as Hawkeye is just plain logical.

[FaT_tONle]

Which I would be 100% ok with. I just don't see him as a solo act. I read a few solo Hawkeye comics and they just weren't very good. Clint works best in an ensemble IMO

It should be a prequel... I want to see how he is recruited by the SHIELD. Make it no later than 2014.

[ScarletSpider]

Once they've been established in The Avengers, I guess a SHIELD movie focussing on Hawkeye, Black Widow and Fury could work. They could be a kind of black ops team, for a job they don't want to send the big colourful superheros in to and attract the world's glaring eyes. A secret war against Hydra or something.

[Matt Mortem]

Once they've been established in The Avengers, I guess a SHIELD movie focussing on Hawkeye, Black Widow and Fury could work. They could be a kind of black ops team, for a job they don't want to send the big colourful superheros in to and attract the world's glaring eyes. A secret war against Hydra or something.
I kinda like the HYDRA idea. There's alot they could do with a SHIELD movie, I just don't know if a Hawkeye movie would fare too well

[Nightwing]

Renner will own this mother****er. This is one of the roles I'm most excited for.

[newwaveboy87]

This is as perfect as casting choice as, well, I dunno, Chris Reeve for Superman? Christian Bale for Batman? Patrick Stewart for Prof. X?

It just makes such logical sense. :up: x a billion

[Stripesy Strip]

I can't say i'm all excited by this(maybe because we knew it for a while). But one aspect that may work with Renner it's that by seeing Hurt Locker he was great at playing a super-dedicated man, so intense at his craft. And if they want to turn Hawkeye more realistic(without making him like Bullseye like in the Ultimates), he could be this focused guy that's so incredible as his craft of archery, that he may be a little nuts over it, always thinking about it, a 100 % of the time. I would have gone with Josh Holloway because he's more abrasive, has more personality but i'm fine with Renner if they give him cool things to do.

[GREEN =w= DAY]

This is as perfect as casting choice as, well, I dunno, Chris Reeve for Superman? Christian Bale for Batman? Patrick Stewart for Prof. X?

It just makes such logical sense. :up: x a billion

agree

Renner IS Hawkeye

:word:

[Hunter Rider]

With an actor of Renner's caliber taking the role I wonder how much screen time Hawkeye is going to have.

[echostation]

will they keep his costume bright pink/purple with the wide 70s eye fish flap sort of things with the large coke bottle sun shades? I think they should... I hope they make sure that they keep him as a true archer or a bow and arrow specialist - no special weapons - pure wooden shafted arrows with a metal tip made from medieval steel... that's it... just metal wooden arrows - that would make him an effective member... Renner the Brenner the Hawkarrowender...

[Raiden]

Once they've been established in The Avengers, I guess a SHIELD movie focussing on Hawkeye, Black Widow and Fury could work. They could be a kind of black ops team, for a job they don't want to send the big colourful superheros in to and attract the world's glaring eyes. A secret war against Hydra or something.

I think when they decided to make a sequel for the Avengers, they need more than just Hawkeye, BW, and Fury; they must have one of the Big Three, and Capt. America is the ideal candidate out of the three b/c he complements Hawkeye and Black Widow very well. And Cap may be better off appearing in the Avengers sequels than doing his own solo movies, anyway, since his rogue gallery is pretty slim.

[Raiden]

With an actor of Renner's caliber taking the role I wonder how much screen time Hawkeye is going to have.

Yeah, I'm wondering about it too. However, Hawkeye isn't as important as Cap, Thor, and IM, so I doubt they can give Renner that much screentime. I'm just glad to see Hawkeye making his big-screen debut before Green Arrow.

[Stripesy Strip]

With an actor of Renner's caliber taking the role I wonder how much screen time Hawkeye is going to have.

Hawkeye is better in small doses anyway. He's like Wolverine in a way. They're best as part of a team, making the wise cracks when the big boys are pumping their chests. (of course Wolvie became so popular as a supporting character that they gave his his own book)

Hawkeye will steal the show by being in the shadow and then re-appearing at important moments(if they write him right).

[Sawyer]

Renner will do great I'm sure, but what to do about that costume...

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, I'm wondering about it too. However, Hawkeye isn't as important as Cap, Thor, and IM, so I doubt they can give Renner that much screentime. I'm just glad to see Hawkeye making his big-screen debut before Green Arrow.

The thing is those characters will have already had solo movies, not saying Hawkeye will ever get a solo film, just that come the time a fresh character front and ce nter with them would be cool.

Hawkeye is better in small doses anyway. He's like Wolverine in a way. They're best as part of a team, making the wise cracks when the big boys are pumping their chests. (of course Wolvie became so popular as a supporting character that they gave his his own book)

Hawkeye will steal the show by being in the shadow and then re-appearing at important moments(if they write him right).

Oddly enough even as a kid my main interest in The X Men was Wolverine lol.

When you say steal the show, you mean in the action sequences or with the humour?

Renner will do great I'm sure, but what to do about that costume...

We need some examples in here!

[Ipodman]

Ultimate Hawkeye is cool... I'll vote for that costume

[Chewy]

I'd be surprised if his costume isn't mostly black with purple highlights. Pleasantly surprised, but still surprised.


Personally I would go with something along the lines of his House of M costume (with shades instead of the circus mask)
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3412/582343hawkeye3super.jpg

[newwaveboy87]

Make it so dark purple that it almost looks black with lighter purple pipping/highlights :up:

[Stripesy Strip]

The thing is those characters will have already had solo movies, not saying Hawkeye will ever get a solo film, just that come the time a fresh character front and ce nter with them would be cool.



Oddly enough even as a kid my main interest in The X Men was Wolverine lol.

He was my favorite also. As Hawkeye was.

When you say steal the show, you mean in the action sequences or with the humour?


Action!

[Stripesy Strip]

We should track down the thread that was made about Hawkeye and his look. Someone had come up with a great take on how he should look for the movie. A mix of Ultimate Hawkeye but with more leather and straps and so forth and a modification of his 616 mask.

[chris moore]

Stripesey - do you mean IronNuts manip below? Was last on page 7My slight tweaking of IronNuts2's Renner (I know its over in the avengers manips thread, but we need more posts here anyway I reckon):
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6965/hawkeyej.jpg

[lixdexia]

tone down the mask just a bit and lose the loin cloth and that costume is perfect imo

[Wolfwood]

I'm betting we're just going to get some kind of commando outfit, that isn't too flashy.

[chris moore]

I think if we consider the semi-flashiness of Caps costume, and the definite flashiness of Iron Man, it could be said that Fury is putting together the Avengers initiative not only to be a superpowered collection to handle threats the military might not be able to; but also as one to be seen by the world. To bring emerging superbeings into the light a bit more, to make kid's childhood comic dreams real, and to maybe give a little hope that terrorism and whatnot won't win. So a little flashiness would make sense. Superhero outfits on superheroes give people hope and make them cheer. A group of superpowered people in black and grey stealth outfits make people scared.

And the loincloth? Thats inherently Hawkeye (but then again so's the mask and I can't say for sure any version of it would work well on screen)

[Majik1387]

I'm betting we're going to get a costume close to the comics as we have had from Iron Man, War Machine Black Widow, and soon to be Thor and Captain America

[Wolfwood]

Well Fury really doesn't have much control over the design and look of Cap and Iron Man's outfits. As for Black Widow, I think her outfit works for a black ops operative. It's still comic book-y but it does have a decidedly stealthy feel to it. I would think since Hawkeye is probably going to be one of Fury's agents, he's going to dress in a similar fashion that may have some comic book edge to it, but we'll mostly suggest that he is indeed a black ops agent. That's just my opinion. I think it really depends on how Hawkeye is utilized on the team. If he's meant to be a public figure, then it might be a bit flashier. If he's supposed to be in the shadows doing more quiet operations, then it wont be as flashy.

[Majik1387]

Because it's impossible for characters to have multiple costumes.................waitaminute.:wow:

[Wolfwood]

Wouldn't that be a bit silly though? I couldn't imagine Fury telling Hawkeye "Hey, you're going out to do battle in the public, why don't you wear that brighter shade of purple."

[Nightwing]

I'm betting we're going to get a costume close to the comics as we have had from Iron Man, War Machine Black Widow, and soon to be Thor and Captain America
Agreed.

[Hunter Rider]

I think the body armour will be of the SWAT style variety with maybe a dark purple in it, for the mask I could see them going the Ultimates route.

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/2168/112ultimatecomicsavenge.jpg (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/112ultimatecomicsavenge.jpg/)

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6290/440pxulthawkeye.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/i/440pxulthawkeye.jpg/)

[lixdexia]

i really hope they don't, that mask and entire costume is atrocious. i could be cool if they took the glasses from that mask and put them on a skin tight hood though

[Doctor Jones]

Eh, just don't make the costume that purple or make the mask look like a paper cut out. He doesn't need that mask. It would look ridiculous on film. Just have him wear special glasses or something like the pics Hunter posted.

[Sawyer]

Come to think of it, I dont even have a problem with the costume as a whole, just that dumb looking mask.

[Majik1387]

Wow. We seriously are not wanting a mask for Hawkeye. Thank god none of you are not only not casting agents, but also not costume designers. :dry:

[Sawyer]

I didn't say I dont want a mask, they would just have to change it so it doesnt look like **** on screen. :o

[Majik1387]

You weren't the only one complaining about the masks.

[lixdexia]

i want a mask, just his classic mask. not the ultimate one, the one with the giant wolverine sides, or the one in your avatar. the mask in the full body manip was pretty much perfect.

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah, it's pretty much the same as the Wolverine mask. And they tested Jackman with that, but they said it looked too much like Batman. It would be the same here. It's not neccessary. They can do without. Because I think that mask just looks lame in the comics. It would look worse on screen. It's just too big. It looks like a flower blossoming on his face. I mean what's the significance of it?

If he indeed is going to be doing more under the radar stuff, he doesn't need a mask like that.

[Majik1387]

Fox said it was too Batman-like, not Marvel.


Marvel has shown numerous times they have no problem bringing the look of the comics to the silver screen.

[Doctor Jones]

Doesn't mean it won't look stupid and desn't mean that everyone can have their look put on screen.

And did Fox really say that? I seem to remember in the commentary, Singer himself said they tested it and they agreed it looked like Batman.

I'm sorry, what is so cool about that mask? Can someone tell me why a skilled archer would wear such a thing? He's suppose to be badass but he's wearing that. No such material can make that thing look cool on film.

[Majik1387]

God, you're sounding like the pre-TDK fanboys saying Joker wearing purple would never work

[lixdexia]

Doesn't mean it won't look stupid and desn't mean that everyone can have their look put on screen.

And did Fox really say that? I seem to remember in the commentary, Singer himself said they tested it and they agreed it looked like Batman.

I'm sorry, what is so cool about that mask? Can someone tell me why a skilled archer would wear such a thing? He's suppose to be badass but he's wearing that. No such material can make that thing look cool on film.
...why are you in a hawkeye thread? he's wears the mask because he's a superhero. that's another reason i'm happy wheddon is doing this, as he wrote for cyclops "superheroes wear costumes."

[Doctor Jones]

God, you're sounding like the pre-TDK fanboys saying Joker wearing purple would never work

Those people were insane. :huh: I don't understand why they would change that look. As it already worked in B89. It's apart of the iconography of the character. Joker is a psychotic clown who's color scheme is wild colors. They don't know what they're talking about. Hawkeye's look isn't exactly what you would call iconic. I don't see an bow and arrow wielding badass can pull purple off. In live action. We'll see how it goes, but now, imagining Renner in purple isn't that badass. Maybe if they purple is much different and very dark and deep or they can use purple somehow. Just don't expect that look from the comics. I'll be surprised if they do it and I'll admit if it works. :yay:

[HUMANIMAL]

wearing a mask because he is a superhero is te most ridiculous reason i've heard so far. sorry but its true espacially when it comes to introduce so called superheroes to the non fans, a bright mass of an audience. every one can be a hero is so old like the idea of superhoes itself.
to wear some sort of uniform is the main thing to say its protector of civilian like a doctor, fireman or policeman ect.
...glasses wich help him targeting better is enough...no need for these stylished eighties comic looks...
we are in a different time period by now and we should accept a different interpretation, not only by the looks but also because its another hand writing the story. not liking it is different thing...but then you decide to watch the movie or not...

[HUMANIMAL]

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/1161/hawkeye.jpg (http://img686.imageshack.us/i/hawkeye.jpg/)

any of these versions could work as hawkeye, but when it comes to a movie it should be one of the two in the middle.

[Majik1387]

What's wrong with the reason of the mask to hide his identity. Or is that too simple for people here? :huh:

Before you bring up Black Widow, she's a spy most the time, not on the front lines, so she has no need for a mask.

[Doctor Jones]

...why are you in a hawkeye thread? he's wears the mask because he's a superhero. that's another reason i'm happy wheddon is doing this, as he wrote for cyclops "superheroes wear costumes."

Yes, in comics. But not exactly on screen. I mean since Wolverine is a superhero his yellow spandex should be worn right? Yellow on a badass like Wolverine is acceptable in a comic or cartoon, but on film? Yeesh. :dry: Same with Renner who is pretty badass. Renner wearing purple, or that color of purple in a costume like that won't make him look badass.

[Doctor Jones]

What's wrong with the reason of the mask to hide his identity. Or is that too simple for people here? :huh:

Before you bring up Black Widow, she's a spy most the time, not on the front lines, so she has no need for a mask.

I suspect Hawkeye will be used the same way. I'm not saying he doesn't need a mask, but he doesn't need one like that. I mean this is cliched but true. What works on a drawing doesn't look as good on film.

[HUMANIMAL]

killing naked is badass :-)
just flesh and bare hands no weapon no hightech....yeah:up:

[Raiden]

Yes, in comics. But not exactly on screen. I mean since Wolverine is a superhero his yellow spandex should be worn right? Yellow on a badass like Wolverine is acceptable in a comic or cartoon, but on film? Yeesh. :dry: Same with Renner who is pretty badass. Renner wearing purple, or that color of purple in a costume like that won't make him look badass.

I'm pretty sure that if Hawkeye wears purple (which I believe he will), it'll be in a shade of purple that won't look ridiculous on the screen. Check out Thor; they've managed to make him look acceptable and not that campy, and his comics costume can look bad if not translated well to the big screen. I'm sure they will make similiar adjustment with Hawkeye.