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Rodrigo90
12-08-2009, 07:35 PM
Are you happy with the way this franchise is going? Or getting tired of it?

VenomVsSpidey
12-08-2009, 07:43 PM
sequels. reboot = not till after SM6. long after SM6.

Symbiotic
12-08-2009, 07:48 PM
Sequels. It hasn't gotten bad enough to abandon the current continuity.

Batspider77
12-08-2009, 07:51 PM
REEBOOT!!!!
Marvel should get the rights back and hire a Director who really knows the Character of Spiderman.
Spiderman has the biggest Potential of all the Superheros out there....please donīt let it be ruined by Raimi and Sony.

Blackman
12-08-2009, 07:54 PM
For me, its not even that the current continuity has gotten so bad that I want a reboot. Its that I want to see a new vision for the franchise. I mean the current cast a crew have been on for like 10 years and I think they should give someone else a go

Hell, Im hoping that 3 years after SP4 there is a new cast and crew hopefully making a teenage Spiderman film

VenomVsSpidey
12-08-2009, 08:04 PM
Double

samsnee
12-08-2009, 08:22 PM
Reboot, but not using Green Goblin or Doctor Octopus again. Save them for the reboot sequel.

SpideyFan914
12-08-2009, 08:48 PM
Here's the real question: Is this thread a sequel or a reboot?

Spiderine
12-08-2009, 08:58 PM
Honestly, these directors should be given the opportunity to do their trilogy and move on. Hire someone else to helm the francise after that because their vision just seems to get a little stale. In this instance, they have decided to allow Raimi to return for the fourth which I really don't have a problem with however this should definitely be his last whether it's a masterpiece or a disaster.

Venom 1988
12-08-2009, 09:02 PM
^^^^
This

The Squirrel
12-08-2009, 09:40 PM
I was willing to give Raimi a chance (definitely not with Tobey, I really wished they would have cast someone else), but Raimi has sealed his fate and I eagerly await a brand new director.

Flint Marko
12-08-2009, 09:48 PM
If spider-man 4 does as well as the previous movies have, they should make 5 and probably 6. After that, Marvel Studios needs to acquire the rights to the character and reboot the franchise after a decade or so.

Doc Ock
12-08-2009, 09:49 PM
Sequels, Spidey 3 IMO wasn't bad enough to ruin the series.

SpideyFan914
12-08-2009, 09:50 PM
I was willing to give Raimi a chance (definitely not with Tobey, I really wished they would have cast someone else), but Raimi has sealed his fate and I eagerly await a brand new director.
If this is about the Vulturess, I'd like to point out how obviously fake that is.

The Squirrel
12-08-2009, 09:51 PM
If this is about the Vulturess, I'd like to point out how obviously fake that is.

Yeah, like that horrible rumor that Sandman would be Uncle Ben's killer. I'm glad that wasn't true.

Blackman
12-08-2009, 09:52 PM
I really want a reboot with Michael Angarano as Parker and Emma Stone as MJ

SpideyFan914
12-08-2009, 09:53 PM
Yeah, like that horrible rumor that Sandman would be Uncle Ben's killer. I'm glad that wasn't true.
More like the rumor that Carnage would turn out to be Aunt May. :whatever:

FaT_tONle
12-08-2009, 10:03 PM
If SM4 is somewhat successful and they leave it open ended, I'd consider just recasting and going forward with sequels. Have Lizard in SM5, maybe the Sinister Six in the final installment. But if it turns out to be another turd, I say go back to high school 6-8 years from SM4 and reboot this sucker. Sign actors in their teens to a four movie Twilight type deal. Film some movies back to back here and there so we won't have to wait 4 years between films. Have 3-4 movies out in a span of 4-5 years. Marvel should do the same with X-Men once they get that back as well.

bullets
12-08-2009, 10:04 PM
If spider-man 4 does as well as the previous movies have, they should make 5 and probably 6. After that, Marvel Studios needs to acquire the rights to the character and reboot the franchise after a decade or so.


I think if Spider-man is good then I would like to see them make it to six and hopefull yfilm 5 and six back to back. Then they could put the franchise in someone elses hands. Spider-man 3 was bad but hopefully thye can find some redemption and if SM4 is bad , reboot the series.

FaT_tONle
12-08-2009, 10:10 PM
Apparently Vanderbilt's script basically had two films in one script. I don't know where it fits with Raimi's vision (obviously they both weren't on the same page), but if it's as good as the indications were, I'd like to see them work off of that. I doubt Tobey fits into their plans. He'd be filming SM5 by the time he's what? 36? 37? Kinda old. Doable but it has to be done back to back. I don't know if his salary would even make it worthwhile.

SpideyFan914
12-08-2009, 10:30 PM
If SM4 is somewhat successful and they leave it open ended, I'd consider just recasting and going forward with sequels. Have Lizard in SM5, maybe the Sinister Six in the final installment. But if it turns out to be another turd, I say go back to high school 6-8 years from SM4 and reboot this sucker. Sign actors in their teens to a four movie Twilight type deal. Film some movies back to back here and there so we won't have to wait 4 years between films. Have 3-4 movies out in a span of 4-5 years. Marvel should do the same with X-Men once they get that back as well.
Why not have Lizard in SM4? :whatever:
(PS: Since you mentioned Twilight, you lost your credibility.)

bullets
12-08-2009, 10:32 PM
Well if Lizard is not going to be in Spider-man 4 the least they could do is give us a cliffhanger .

FaT_tONle
12-08-2009, 11:02 PM
Why not have Lizard in SM4? :whatever:
(PS: Since you mentioned Twilight, you lost your credibility.)

Wow... I am using Twilight as a business model (and a darn good one) in this instance. And if you have been reading anything the past 24 hours you'd realize Lizard is HIGHLY unlikely at this point.

Venom 1988
12-08-2009, 11:11 PM
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Eggyman
12-09-2009, 01:19 AM
It shouldn't need to be all about reboots. The comics don't reboot (very rarely/ultimates), they just go on and on even when the writers and artists change. The movies should just do the same. Just release Spidey films for **** sake. Let someone tell a stand-alone story, without changing or warping what's come before. None of this carrying arcs over.

We know who Spidey is and we know how he came to be. Just give us some good stories without all this attention to arcs and franchise continuity.

Octoberist
12-09-2009, 05:16 AM
i think reboots should only be used wisely. I don't think Spidey needs one.

bryanss3
12-09-2009, 05:41 AM
I personally would like a reboot , but understand that because of how new This series is it couldn't really do one. There were almost 10 years between Batman and Robin and Batman Begins. The Spider-Man series isn't going to be taking any breaks I'm sure we'll have Spider-Man 5 by 2014. I'm not saying the current series is bad by any means(except for 3 and i think 2 is a little long but still good), but I just don't like the over all direction of the films after the the first one.

Rodrigo90
12-09-2009, 08:16 AM
Personaly,I adore the franchise. The actors by now feel like part of the family,lol. So I would be really upset if it got a reboot.

But if it DID get rebooted,it wouldnt be because its terrible,but to see a new creative approach to it.

My vote is for more sequels.

FaT_tONle
12-09-2009, 09:25 AM
It shouldn't need to be all about reboots. The comics don't reboot (very rarely/ultimates), they just go on and on even when the writers and artists change. The movies should just do the same. Just release Spidey films for **** sake. Let someone tell a stand-alone story, without changing or warping what's come before. None of this carrying arcs over.

We know who Spidey is and we know how he came to be. Just give us some good stories without all this attention to arcs and franchise continuity.

Then its essentially James Bond. Might not be a bad thing but I'm not sure I want that. It's also almost the same as rebooting without doing an origin or anything.

Nathan
12-09-2009, 09:32 AM
Maybe just some sort of a semi-reboot. Stick with the established 4 movies, but continue the series with a whole new cast. And retcon some character personalities, like Peter Parker not being an insecure dork anymore. It would be nice to have a movie start off with a wisecracking Spider-Man that is taking thugs down. So you know from the beginning this is a new and improved Spider-Man, that is more faithful to the comics.

Frodo
12-09-2009, 12:25 PM
If all the various rumors of Vulture , Vultress , Black Cat etc are true then yes it needs a reboot imo. Of course it would have to be several years away but I do think it's time to reboot after part 4. The cast is gettting old, Spiderman 3 had so many stories that it used up athe potential for a few films, and then need to let the francise rest awhile .

Steyin
12-09-2009, 01:12 PM
I really don't have a major problem with the series overall, but there are major elements and characters lacking, and I truely feel there is no way to do justice in full to anything from here on out.

The first film was good, and I probably enjoy it the most, but Norman didn't seem to have any real purpose with his "scheme". Also, skipping over Gwen with MJ was fine by me, but introducing her in SM3 kind of negates my feelings on it.

SM2 was also ok, but lost a lot of potential it set up for 3. Of course I would have preferred Ock to have his accent and be more dasterdly, but no biggie. The tenseness betweeen Harry and Peter was great, but again I think SM3 killed it slightly. Also, there was a good set up for Man-Wolf and introducing Venom/the symbiote ala the animated series (which would have been an awesome action sequence), but they ended up as missed opportuinites.

Same goes for SM3; while not terrible in my eyes, it was lackluster. Sandman was out of place (I don't blame Raimi for that), Harry's GG was too "hip", and Venom/Brock was just done too hastily. SM3, if it had just focused on Venom and GG2, had the potential to be dramatic and dark on TDK like levels, but missed its shot at it. Instead we got dancing and singing. As for "emo" Peter; I didn't mind, I thought he was a little sarcastic/sassy or whatnot and felt it was a good portrayal under the symbiote influence. My only fanboyish dissapointment for SM3 was the black suit being just a black version of his normal suit, which I can forgive and ended up enjoying anyway.

Again, the series is fine, but at this stage with all the lost potential the only way to regain it is with a reboot in my eyes. No matter how good 4 and possibly 5/6 are, too much has been tampered with already for me as a Spidey fan to enjoy it as much as I could have if done right from the start. Also, I felt the same way about TDK; as a huge Batman fan I loved BB, but didn't really enjoy TDK all that much. Another series with a good first film, but a lingering second for me.

Doc Ock
12-09-2009, 01:50 PM
All these wishes for a reboot saddens me. :(

Goran
12-09-2009, 01:59 PM
After reading the latest rumors I say: reboot!

This franchise will DIE if the rumors turn out to be true...

UnionJack
12-09-2009, 04:13 PM
I'd like a reboot in like 5years after this next set of films are done.

Toby is good, but getting old, Dunst have NEVER done it for me Ramai did a good job for 1 and 2 but then it went downhill, Sony's fault or not, and now he is in control he seems to be making the same mistakes, over casting the villans and not using ones already get up like Lizard and whoever Bruce Campbell will be.

Oscorp
12-09-2009, 04:15 PM
When Raimi decides to quit, I think it's time for a new and fresh reboot. Until then, keep the sequels coming.

bryanss3
12-09-2009, 04:17 PM
I mainly want a reboot because all the major Spidey villains they use died. How the hell do you build up the Sinister Six without Doc Ock? how do you kill Norman Osborn in the first movie and introduce Gwen Stacy in the third? How is Harry Osborn dead... Peter has no friends I'd just like to see things done right.

also we'd need more than 5 years for a reboot and its going to suck for who ever has to make those reboots. If you want to show Spider-Man's orgin or any villain used like GG, Dock Ock, or Sandman the previous movie series will be fresh in General Audiences minds. How can you redo GG or Sandman without doing the same type of scenes slightly altered. and if rebooted do we need to see Spidey's orgin over? I'd like to see more focus on high school in a reboot.

GoldGoblin
12-09-2009, 04:44 PM
Reboot,where we get to see a better Peter Parker,more spidey(a masked one),a latex mask wearing Green Goblin,no New Goblin,where every villain isn't connected to Peter,a evil black suited spidey,not a goofball version,a hot MJ,not a ugly one,etc,etc,etc...

bullets
12-09-2009, 11:05 PM
I mainly want a reboot because all the major Spidey villains they use died. How the hell do you build up the Sinister Six without Doc Ock?



I was really hoping these films would lead to a sinister six . It's kind of a shame that it won't go there .

Doc Ock
12-09-2009, 11:28 PM
Reboot,where we get to see a better Peter Parker,more spidey(a masked one),a latex mask wearing Green Goblin,no New Goblin,where every villain isn't connected to Peter,a evil black suited spidey,not a goofball version,a hot MJ,not a ugly one,etc,etc,etc...

I though Kirsten Dunst was pretty....:dry:

Eggyman
12-10-2009, 01:28 AM
Then its essentially James Bond. Might not be a bad thing but I'm not sure I want that. It's also almost the same as rebooting without doing an origin or anything.

Yeh, I agree. It's like walking into a comic shop and picking a random comic up. Just a story that happened to him at some point.

Eggyman
12-10-2009, 01:58 AM
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Vile
12-10-2009, 02:44 AM
Reboot - by someone who actually read the comics this time.

Eggyman
12-10-2009, 05:30 AM
Reboot - by someone who actually read the comics this time.

Raimi didn't need to read the comics. He had a painting done on his wall so he is the best person for the job.

Timstuff
12-10-2009, 05:58 AM
A reboot is uneccessary. I do not want to watch Peter Parker's origin story again when they already nailed it with the first one. Maybe in 15-20 years they should consider it, but for now it's way too friggin' soon. You do not reboot a franchise just because of one weak sequel-- you reboot because the franchise is at a creative dead end.

bryanss3
12-10-2009, 07:20 AM
well if it comes to that after this movie. I agree though if they reboot they'll need to wait a long time to get the previous series out of peoples minds(8 years like Batman) and I don't want to see another origin story, but I'd like to see Peter Parker in high school for the entire first movie. but that's not possible.

Adrian89
12-10-2009, 10:22 AM
Definetly NOT a reboot. Not the same thing over & over again, how he gets the powers etc. We've all seen that. It's not the time to reboot it.

Venom 1988
12-10-2009, 12:00 PM
Jesus people....

A reboot =/= origin story repeat

Rodrigo90
12-10-2009, 12:02 PM
They skipped past an origin story with TIH.

spida-man
12-10-2009, 01:51 PM
Sequels, Spidey 3 IMO wasn't bad enough to ruin the series.

Thanks Dock. If only more ppl would take that type of medicine.

spida-man
12-10-2009, 01:52 PM
Raimi didn't need to read the comics. He had a painting done on his wall so he is the best person for the job.
Besides Rami DID/DOES read the comics....

Deaths Head II
12-10-2009, 02:03 PM
I do not want to watch Peter Parker's origin story again when they already nailed it with the first one.

Yeah, they nailed it in the first one and then apparently figured they did it too perfectly so they retconned it in the third one. But like people said, a reboot doesn't necessarily mean a new origin story.

Personally, I think they should wait a few years after the franchise dies out for good before a reboot is even considered so interest has a chance to regrow. Otherwise the reboot will probably be as successful as TIH was. Rebooting all the time will probably kill people's interest.

Timstuff
12-10-2009, 02:49 PM
I still don't see the reasoning behind why a reboot is needed. So they messed up Venom and Peter Parker danced, big whoopin' deal. It's not like they displaced the groundwork of the whole series.

If there's one thing I don't like about Batman Begins, for all it got right, is that it set a very unfortunate precident by being a reboot, especially with fanboys. Now whenever something doesn't go the way a fan wants in an adaptation, they just say "they should reboot it." Hollywood doesn't even seem to know what a reboot is half the time, because they seem to think that sequels count as reboots even though they're not, just because they stopped putting numbers in the titles of the sequels. Hollywood doesn't know what a reboot is, and fanboys don't know what a reboot is for.

The Shredder
12-10-2009, 03:01 PM
Waaaay too early for a reboot.

I want to see the story continue. Even if a decent amount of people consider Spider-Man 3 a bit lacking, it's simply not enough to warrant going back and starting from scratch.

Nathan
12-10-2009, 03:09 PM
Just continue the movies under a new director, with a new cast and retcon some personalities.

Timstuff
12-10-2009, 03:20 PM
I agree that new actors and a new crew would probably be enough to freshen up the franchise as opposed to an actual reboot, and seeing different actors in the roles would be enough for them to get away with altering some aspects of their personalities without any major explanation.

I think for a lot of people though, Toby Maguire will always be their favorite Spider-Man. The first person to play a character often times does emerge as the long running favorite.

Timstuff
12-10-2009, 03:21 PM
I agree that new actors and a new crew would probably be enough to freshen up the franchise as opposed to an actual reboot, and seeing different actors in the roles would be enough for them to get away with altering some aspects of their personalities without any major explanation.

I think for a lot of people though, Toby Maguire will always be their favorite Spider-Man. The first person to play a character often times does emerge as the long running favorite.

venom892
12-10-2009, 03:38 PM
I don't know about Tobey always being the favorite.Kevin Conroy is my favorite Batman and I don't know too many people who have Adam West as their favorite Batman.

Doc Ock
12-10-2009, 03:41 PM
Tobey Maguire is my favorite Spider-Man...and Josh Keaton.

The Shredder
12-10-2009, 04:50 PM
I don't know about Tobey always being the favorite.Kevin Conroy is my favorite Batman and I don't know too many people who have Adam West as their favorite Batman.

And I know of fewer people who have Lewis Wilson as their favorite Batman. :cwink:

But I have to agree that Tobey will be a favorite for some time to come with fans of the Spider-Man films.

Adam West did his thing with Batman over 40 years ago, where alot of fans these days grew up on the Burton/Keaton Bat-flicks, or the 1990's animated series during the past 20 years. So naturally, alot of fans will cite those adaptations/portrayals as their personal favorite. Even if they also really enjoyed what came before, or later.

webhead731
12-10-2009, 06:37 PM
This thread topic is overused. There should be a cesnor so people can't make threads with "reboot" in them when there's no reboot being planned! -_-

You can hate on the fact Spider-Man 4 is coming all you want but it's still going to come. And don't act like we have loads of news and info because we have almost NOTHING aside from some rumors. This thread would be more appopriate if the movie had came out already but it hasn't.

Doc Ock
12-10-2009, 10:53 PM
This thread topic is overused. There should be a cesnor so people can't make threads with "reboot" in them when there's no reboot being planned! -_-

You can hate on the fact Spider-Man 4 is coming all you want but it's still going to come. And don't act like we have loads of news and info because we have almost NOTHING aside from some rumors. This thread would be more appopriate if the movie had came out already but it hasn't.

:up:

GoldGoblin
12-10-2009, 10:54 PM
They can always show a spidey origin if they reboot the series with just a little flashback.Like you can have Peter meet Dr.Connors and Dr.Connors could be like,hey aren't you that kid who got ill on that field trip and fainted on some expensive equipment.

DACMAN
12-11-2009, 10:07 AM
For me, its not even that the current continuity has gotten so bad that I want a reboot. Its that I want to see a new vision for the franchise. I mean the current cast a crew have been on for like 10 years and I think they should give someone else a go

Hell, Im hoping that 3 years after SP4 there is a new cast and crew hopefully making a teenage Spiderman film

:up::up::up::up::up::up::up::up::up:

I think all 3 movies should take place in high school ala Ultimate Spider-Man.

DACMAN
12-11-2009, 10:18 AM
I think for a lot of people though, Toby Maguire will always be their favorite Spider-Man. The first person to play a character often times does emerge as the long running favorite.

Name one person that makes that statement true.

Maybe you mean him?

http://www.the-isb.com/images/SurfJamsJoker.jpg

or maybe him?

http://www.glasshousepresents.com/George%20and%20Phyllis%20in%20Superman%20and%20the %20Mole%20Men.jpg

or him..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/Ratso/Batman_et_Robin-1.jpg

Oh I get it, you mean him


http://www.fantafilm.net/Attori2/Hammond.jpg
http://www.moviecatcher.net/images/spiderman-strikes-back1.jpg


the first live action Spidey/Peter ever? Right?

DACMAN
12-11-2009, 10:47 AM
I still don't see the reasoning behind why a reboot is needed. So they messed up Venom and Peter Parker danced, big whoopin' deal. It's not like they displaced the groundwork of the whole series.

If there's one thing I don't like about Batman Begins, for all it got right, is that it set a very unfortunate precident by being a reboot, especially with fanboys. Now whenever something doesn't go the way a fan wants in an adaptation, they just say "they should reboot it." Hollywood doesn't even seem to know what a reboot is half the time, because they seem to think that sequels count as reboots even though they're not, just because they stopped putting numbers in the titles of the sequels. Hollywood doesn't know what a reboot is, and fanboys don't know what a reboot is for.

Hollywood doesn't know what a reboot is? What the heck does that mean? They not only know what it means, they love reboots. They can recycle the same story all over again with a different vision. Every other movie now-a-days is a reboot. Star Trek, Bond, Batman, and HULK all reboots. The audience loves it, and they love it. Fan boys always want to see a different take on their favorite character. That's why we get different writers for comics because after awhile one person's vision of the character after hundreds of issues could get really stale. You seem to be the only one who doesn't know what a reboot is for. Stop projecting...

LightningFlash
12-11-2009, 12:17 PM
I've been saying this since Spider-Man 3, and we get a rumor about 'Vulturess' and then people jump in the bandwagon.

Haven't I said before that Raimi is an idiot?

'Vulturess' proves it. And also that Kingsley isn't rumored to be Vulture anymore.

Kinglsey > Malkovich.

Plus...both of those villains will be sympathetic, and we find out that they belong to a group(as was Flint Marko...he was a "trainee") much like the Illuminati and they all devised a plan to kill Uncle Ben because they believed him to be the destroyer of the world. Little do they know that Aunt May is Carnage though. Poor stupid bastards...I bet Green Goblin knew though, at least HE went after the old raisin.

GoldGoblin
12-11-2009, 03:08 PM
Maybe the rebbot could be in animation like the movie Beowoulf.

DACMAN
12-11-2009, 03:15 PM
Or Pixar could do it. But yeah, I'd love a Beowulf style Spidey movie.

But as far as a reboot goes, I say give Raimi one more film so that he can redeem himself a little. Let them all have one more go and then reboot. I think the franchise needs some new blood and a new take on it.

Octoberist
12-11-2009, 04:11 PM
no uncanny valley Spider-Man. so no to Beowulf style.

DACMAN
12-11-2009, 06:59 PM
Don't be so closed-minded.

SP1D3RxV3N0M
12-12-2009, 01:19 PM
I've been saying this since Spider-Man 3, and we get a rumor about 'Vulturess' and then people jump in the bandwagon.

Haven't I said before that Raimi is an idiot?

'Vulturess' proves it. And also that Kingsley isn't rumored to be Vulture anymore.

Kinglsey > Malkovich.

Plus...both of those villains will be sympathetic, and we find out that they belong to a group(as was Flint Marko...he was a "trainee") much like the Illuminati and they all devised a plan to kill Uncle Ben because they believed him to be the destroyer of the world. Little do they know that Aunt May is Carnage though. Poor stupid bastards...I bet Green Goblin knew though, at least HE went after the old raisin.

Are you stupid? Vulturess doens't prove anything since:

A- You don't know how the character is going to work in the movie if she's in it and...
B- It's still a rumor! Jezz, there's nothing official yet!

Doc Ock
12-12-2009, 01:30 PM
Are you stupid? Vulturess doens't prove anything since:

A- You don't know how the character is going to work in the movie if she's in it and...
B- It's still a rumor! Jezz, there's nothing official yet!

Very true but people like to eat up rumors similar to how Pac-Man eats his pellets!

webhead731
12-13-2009, 01:34 PM
LightningFlash will find fault with anything Spider-Man 4 related. Doesn't matter what they do.

zeptron
12-13-2009, 01:55 PM
The reset button is being used too often. And it's annoying.

GoldGoblin
12-16-2009, 04:16 PM
The reset button is being used too often. And it's annoying.

^
If we didn't hit the reset button,then we wouldn't have "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight".

VenomVsSpidey
12-16-2009, 04:28 PM
^
If we didn't hit the reset button,then we wouldn't have "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight".

it's things like these that make me hate those movies sometimes.

zeptron
12-16-2009, 07:42 PM
^
If we didn't hit the reset button,then we wouldn't have "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight".

True, but Hollywood is overdoing it now. This is one thing I don't like about Batman Begins. Now everytime something doesn't go the way fanboys want it to go they start crying "Reboot!" or "Recast!" If the third Batman movie ends up not being on par with the other two, I can see fanboys turning on Nolan the same way they turned on Raimi. It shows just how amazing people can turn completly turncoat after one screwup.

VenomVsSpidey
12-16-2009, 07:51 PM
True, but Hollywood is overdoing it now. This is one thing I don't like about Batman Begins. Now everytime something doesn't go the way fanboys want it to go they start crying "Reboot!" or "Recast!" If the third Batman movie ends up not being on par with the other two, I can see fanboys turning on Nolan the same way they turned on Raimi. It shows just how amazing people can turn completly turncoat after one screwup.

I'm all ready for the backlash against nolan. I wont hate, much like I wont hate on raimi now, but I'm anticipating ZOMG batman and robin wuz better! reboot!

TheSlag
12-17-2009, 12:24 AM
If Vulturess rumor is true.. they CANNOT Reboot Fast Enough.

bullets
12-17-2009, 12:45 AM
It's too soon to call for a reboot. Spider-man 4 would have to be terrible.

Dr.Dude
12-17-2009, 01:59 AM
This "Vulturess" stuff is just what "Aunt Carnage" was to Spider-Man 3 and what the "Red Baron" was to Batman Begins.

...my vote goes to sequel, by the way, heh.

Whenever Raimi and crew are done, if they do make more Spider-Man movies, then just do it in the same way that a new creative team would come onto a comic book. Sure, the writers will write the characters differently, the actors will all change and the look will be different and all that but rebooting the whole continuity isn't just unnecessary, it's lazy.

Batman Begins was needed because Batman and Robin screwed up the entire series badly enough that there really was no logical way to make a darker sequel to it; just look at how the early treatments for Batman Triumphant all fell apart. Even if you weren't a fan of SM3, it's nowhere near the level of Batman and Robin.

Dr.Dude
12-17-2009, 02:01 AM
(Accidental double post)

GoldGoblin
12-17-2009, 02:01 AM
I want a reboot so bad that i hope SM4 is worse than SM3.

Adrian89
12-17-2009, 02:05 AM
I want a reboot so bad that i hope SM4 is worse than SM3.
And maybe you won't get it for 20 years...

GoldGoblin
12-17-2009, 02:15 AM
And maybe you won't get it for 20 years...

^
Not with how reboots are popular these days.

VenomVsSpidey
12-17-2009, 11:13 AM
I want a reboot so bad that i hope SM4 is worse than SM3.

....:dry:

TheSlag
12-19-2009, 02:00 PM
Think of the excitement a reboot would generate. Fresh new invigorating cast. Director with new ideas.

Promises to stay closer to the story arcs and characters from the Comics.

A truely menacing and scary Goblin as opposed to the Power Ranger ripoff we got.

Goblin Legacy followed. Rich supporting cast of characters woven into the storylines.

Stories that encompass the light and dark sides of Spider-Man Arcs.

Some of the best parts of the first 3 Spider-Man movies gave us only brief glimpses of what could be. Norman's battle with his alter ego. Harry vs. Peter, Brother vs. Brother (i.e. the Pie scene with Peter.. Sooo good.. Greatness).

Eliminate the "Spidey is a Hero BS.. Spidey Day in NYC". Eliminate the ALL ABOUT ONE GIRL BS that Spider-Man NEVER was.

A question for the board. What is the Goblin Legacy as it stands in the movies now?

Reboot? I cannot wait til that day comes.

NinjaCarm
12-19-2009, 02:15 PM
I want a reboot so bad that i hope SM4 is worse than SM3.

LMAO!!!! That made my day!

Doesn't Raimi listen to the fans? Doesn't Sony? Don't they understand we're tired of waterdowned eye candy?

Makes me sick. And the way they botched Venom.... my God what a waste.

NinjaCarm
12-19-2009, 02:18 PM
Think of the excitement a reboot would generate. Fresh new invigorating cast. Director with new ideas.

Promises to stay closer to the story arcs and characters from the Comics.

A truely menacing and scary Goblin as opposed to the Power Ranger ripoff we got.

Goblin Legacy followed. Rich supporting cast of characters woven into the storylines.

Stories that encompass the light and dark sides of Spider-Man Arcs.

Some of the best parts of the first 3 Spider-Man movies gave us only brief glimpses of what could be. Norman's battle with his alter ego. Harry vs. Peter, Brother vs. Brother (i.e. the Pie scene with Peter.. Sooo good.. Greatness).

Eliminate the "Spidey is a Hero BS.. Spidey Day in NYC". Eliminate the ALL ABOUT ONE GIRL BS that Spider-Man NEVER was.

A question for the board. What is the Goblin Legacy as it stands in the movies now?

Reboot? I cannot wait til that day comes.

I admire your passion. When I first saw Spider-Man for the first time and heard Peter Parker say on screen "Like any story worth telling, this is all about a girl", I thought.... WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????? ?? Then and there I knew how the people involved in the property immediately f'd it up, made a movie (franchise) to cater to the masses, and was utterly dissapointed.

SpideyTheBest
12-19-2009, 04:14 PM
I actually want to see a live action Spider-Man series. It should be done.

sauronthegreat
12-19-2009, 04:51 PM
Think of the excitement a reboot would generate. Fresh new invigorating cast. Director with new ideas.

Promises to stay closer to the story arcs and characters from the Comics.

A truely menacing and scary Goblin as opposed to the Power Ranger ripoff we got.

Goblin Legacy followed. Rich supporting cast of characters woven into the storylines.

Stories that encompass the light and dark sides of Spider-Man Arcs.

Some of the best parts of the first 3 Spider-Man movies gave us only brief glimpses of what could be. Norman's battle with his alter ego. Harry vs. Peter, Brother vs. Brother (i.e. the Pie scene with Peter.. Sooo good.. Greatness).

Eliminate the "Spidey is a Hero BS.. Spidey Day in NYC". Eliminate the ALL ABOUT ONE GIRL BS that Spider-Man NEVER was.

A question for the board. What is the Goblin Legacy as it stands in the movies now?

Reboot? I cannot wait til that day comes.

Well said!
Can't agree more about one of the greatest villains of all time. 'The Joker' of the Marvel Universe which was so ridiculously destroyed.
And I would like to add the pointless switch of MJ with Gwen. Giving MJ Gwen's character traits, playing the whole bridge scene and not killing her, and after that introducing Gwen as MJ character we all know from the comics :huh:
I still don't get how anyone who loves Spider-Man and his mythology can understand and be ok with that.

NinjaCarm
12-19-2009, 05:43 PM
http://mimg.ugo.com/200709/2745/bigtrouble_screenshot.jpg

VULTURESSSSS !!!! ???? !!!! ???? !!!!! ?????

VenomVsSpidey
12-19-2009, 06:22 PM
no..just no...

SP1D3RxV3N0M
12-20-2009, 08:20 AM
I actually want to see a live action Spider-Man series. It should be done.


Agreed, that's the way Spidey should be done.

bullets
12-20-2009, 09:36 AM
Would a live action series be too expensive?

TheSlag
12-20-2009, 11:27 AM
Well said!
I still don't get how anyone who loves Spider-Man and his mythology can understand and be ok with that.

Totally agree, it baffles me too. :up:

And I 100% agree with your point on the GweMJ character montrosity.

SpideyTheBest
12-20-2009, 02:59 PM
Would a live action series be too expensive?

Disney owns the TV rights for Spidey. And Disney is one of the richest companies there is I believe. Shouldn't be a problem.

Young Superman
12-20-2009, 04:30 PM
sequels

VenomVsSpidey
12-20-2009, 05:12 PM
sequels

:up:

this.

Spider-ManHero12
12-20-2009, 05:21 PM
Sequels. :up:

DACMAN
12-20-2009, 06:54 PM
Have 4 be the last. We need a reboot. Keep him in high school ala Ultimate Spider-Man and the new show. Have him throw around some quips like the comics, videogames, cartoons, and every other version of Spidey we have. Tobey Maguire is getting too old to play Peter and there are many actors out there who could do a better job.

Vile
12-20-2009, 10:00 PM
Reboot.

Popular or not, I've grown ever so tired of Raimi's vision of the spider-man mythos.

GoldGoblin
12-21-2009, 04:22 AM
Raimi doesn't know how to balance Peter and Spidey,he gives us only Peter with Spidey cameos.They should both have equal screen time.And all of Peter's screen time shouldn't be with MJ.

The Spectacular Spider-Man television show knows how to balance Peter and spidey just right.

Young Superman
12-21-2009, 04:58 AM
Have 4 be the last. We need a reboot. Keep him in high school ala Ultimate Spider-Man and the new show. Have him throw around some quips like the comics, videogames, cartoons, and every other version of Spidey we have. Tobey Maguire is getting too old to play Peter and there are many actors out there who could do a better job.
I'd be ok with this.

RustyCage
12-21-2009, 12:32 PM
I don't necessarily want a reboot just yet. But I would like to see Raimi do things right for Spidey 4 (and 5 if he's already committed to that and does well with 4).

I'd naturally like to see a new take on Spidey sometime in the future though.

GoldGoblin
12-21-2009, 05:26 PM
Seem like it would be cooler if they made the reboot using "Beowulf" and "Avatar" type technology.This way you don't see actors getting old,and you will always have continuity,so we can have Peter stay in high school in all the sequels.

RustyCage
12-21-2009, 05:33 PM
Seem like it would be cooler if they made the reboot using "Beowulf" and "Avatar" type technology.This way you don't see actors getting old,and you will always have continuity,so we can have Peter stay in high school in all the sequels.

I'm not actually sure I'd go for that. I prefer the organic, human feel of everything. Looking at Beowulf and Avatar, all I can think about while watching it is how fake and computer-generated it looks.

Keeping Peter in high school isn't worth that sacrifice, to me. :csad:

Blackman
12-21-2009, 05:41 PM
Have 4 be the last. We need a reboot. Keep him in high school ala Ultimate Spider-Man and the new show. Have him throw around some quips like the comics, videogames, cartoons, and every other version of Spidey we have. Tobey Maguire is getting too old to play Peter and there are many actors out there who could do a better job.
this :up:

NinjaCarm
12-21-2009, 09:28 PM
I'm going to post the following to every response on every board I go on because I'm reading useless debates on here like "No Lizard is stronger than this guy, and Kraven uses his skills, and Carnage is not that insane" you are all basically saying yeah go ahead Raimi make another Dawson's Creek episode with Spider-Man eye candy:

I could really care less who the villains will be in the next movie. All I want, for the love of GOD, is a true Spider-Man movie, a true representation of the feel good semi-confident Peter Parker that when he gets into the costume he's a charmingly funny makes you feel safe Spider-Man, not catering to the damn kiddies, with genuine and ENGAGING acting, a complex plot not made for morons, with awe inspiring Spider-Man action scenes... not recycled music shoddy swinging scenes, and extremely threatening villains that don't cry.

Oh, and f you Sony.