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wattabrownsound
12-15-2009, 07:22 PM
What are some big twists that could be in the next Superman movies? they can be old ones from the comics that would be new to the general audience or completely new twists for the comic readers.

RachelDawes
12-15-2009, 08:42 PM
Superman dies, and then is somehow resurrected or revealed to be not actually dead.

Webhead2006
12-15-2009, 10:02 PM
twists are always fun to see in movies. more so when its a complete surprise and you didnt know it coming. But yea i wouldnt mind if they draw from things of the comics general movie goers dont know of that could be very shocking to them.

GreenKToo
12-16-2009, 08:52 AM
I know several here didnt like it but, I kinda liked the twist at the end of red son.

Rodrigo90
12-16-2009, 10:44 AM
We find out Superman is a Hermaphrodite. Thats why he cant have a GF.:woot:

Mr. Earle
12-16-2009, 11:56 AM
I know several here didnt like it but, I kinda liked the twist at the end of red son.
I havent read Red Son yet, but i know about the famous line. Here is a funny picture about it (i always wanted to post it):
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2623/1207529173990.jpg

Anyway, back on topic. Hire Shyamalan and at the end of the movie it will be revealed that Superman is actually Lex Luthor himself :wow: and he wears a wig as Superman. He does evil so that he can stop it as Superman because he has the saviour complex!

El Payaso
12-16-2009, 12:52 PM
Anyway, back on topic. Hire Shyamalan and at the end of the movie it will be revealed that Superman is actually Lex Luthor himself :wow: and he wears a wig as Superman. He does evil so that he can stop it as Superman because he has the saviour complex!

That sounds exactly like a classic awful Shyama-twist! Hilarious but with a great spooky soundtrack. :yay:

[A]
12-16-2009, 12:58 PM
Superman is really just 2-3 kids standing on each other, with a blue sheet on top of them.

Also, Lex Luthor becomes a billionaire after creating a baldness cure.

NotFadeAway
12-18-2009, 12:06 AM
The Kryptonian Braniac takes on the form of Jor-El as a homage to his creator and as a way to fool Superman.

Adenjo
12-18-2009, 07:10 PM
Twists....

How about Lois has a kid and it turns out Superman is the dad?

X Knight
12-18-2009, 08:22 PM
here's a twist........

The next Superman movie has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Donner movies!!

El Payaso
12-19-2009, 12:55 AM
... yeah, that's unexpected.

Anubis
12-19-2009, 12:58 AM
Lois used to be a dude!!! :eek:

Lighthouse
12-19-2009, 02:12 AM
Brandon Routh gets cast in X-Men: First Class.

Bruce_Begins
12-19-2009, 02:51 AM
WB desperately want to make the next Supes movie successful and they cast Robert Pattinson as Superman.

[A]
12-19-2009, 03:00 AM
Oh noes. That'll be the end of it.

GreenKToo
12-19-2009, 07:17 AM
Have jimmy be adopted and he discovers that Lex is his half brother.

wattabrownsound
12-19-2009, 11:06 AM
there is a FOS already in the Arctic and it belongs to Jor-el. superman adopts this as his FOS too. or superman has his FOS but finds another one belonging to Jor-el.

Anubis
12-19-2009, 11:14 AM
The entire story is a comic book written by an 11 year old autistic boy, who is really a dead alien.

NotFadeAway
12-19-2009, 12:04 PM
here's a twist........

The next Superman movie has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Donner movies!!

This would be very welcome.

The closest thing I want to a Donner homage is Supes getting a cat out of a tree.

NotFadeAway
12-19-2009, 12:11 PM
WB desperately want to make the next Supes movie successful and they cast Robert Pattinson as Superman.

Dude, don't say stuff like this. What if a plant from WB is floating around on here. Don't give them ideas. We don't need Pattinson or Kellan Lutz names floating around for Superman.

Mr. Earle
12-19-2009, 01:01 PM
Twists....

How about Lois has a kid and it turns out Superman is the dad?Oh god! I hope they never do this. This idea is terrible! :awesome::hehe:Dude, don't say stuff like this. What if a plant from WB is floating around on here. Don't give them ideas. We don't need Pattinson or Kellan Lutz names floating around for Superman.Seconded!

patrickbateman
12-19-2009, 01:48 PM
Gene Hackman’s Lex (Lex Prime,think Gene in THE CHAMBER) hacks his way into CERN ·The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) whereby he is transported back in time to an era with unlimited potential meeting his younger self and grooming for the ultimate showdown against superman and obtaining true real power not the land grab BS. Thus opening a whole new chapter where in LEX CORP can be established aswell as not wiping out the donner- singer universe completely for the folks who still want that.

Twist Prime LEX not the LEX we knew… He’s upgraded himself with nano technology stumbled up in Roswell .. Brainiac.

patrickbateman
12-19-2009, 01:49 PM
Actually that’s too star trekish don’t think its going to translate on screen aswell

patrickbateman
12-19-2009, 01:49 PM
repeat post

Adenjo
12-19-2009, 02:08 PM
WB desperately want to make the next Supes movie successful and they cast Robert Pattinson as Superman.

Don't even joke about that.The closest thing I want to a Donner homage is Supes getting a cat out of a tree.
Using heat vision.

[A]
12-19-2009, 02:11 PM
Lex Luthor shaves his head because he's a big fan of Yul Brynner (not really a twist but..)

Rodrigo90
12-19-2009, 05:59 PM
Rob P would be awesome as Supes...

wattabrownsound
12-19-2009, 06:34 PM
somehow Lex is responsible for the destruction of Krypton.

X Knight
12-19-2009, 08:49 PM
ok....how bout this.....

Krypton didn't really explode....and Lex is really a Kryptonian masquerading as a CIA agent....

oh wait..........

OH!! OH!! I got it!!

in the next film.....we discover that.....GASP.....Clark Kent is SUPERMAN!!! :wow:

Mr. Earle
12-19-2009, 09:34 PM
ok....how bout this.....

Krypton didn't really explode....and Lex is really a Kryptonian masquerading as a CIA agent....
This was part of Abraams first script. Only with Lex being a spy from Krypton which didnt explode.

Now, what if Clark's spaceship doesnt land on Earth but on Cybertron and he is found by this couple?
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2028/orionpaxariel.jpg

This is Orion Pax, the honest robot worker which was later rebuilt into Optimus Prime.

Adenjo
12-20-2009, 02:35 AM
Now, what if Clark's spaceship doesnt land on Earth but on Cybertron and he is found by this couple?
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2028/orionpaxariel.jpg

This is Orion Pax, the honest robot worker which was later rebuilt into Optimus Prime.

As an elseworlds story i'd actually be interested in that :)

Adenjo
12-20-2009, 02:36 AM
Twist..
we discover Jor-El didn't actually build the escape rocket for his son.. But actually made it to save his own skin after discovering Lara had an affair with Zod and fearing (quite rightly as we discover in the sequel) that Kal-El is actually the son of Zod.

Webhead2006
12-20-2009, 03:03 AM
hell no!!!!!

kalelkilla
12-20-2009, 12:12 PM
I think having Zod or Brainiac or whoever the main villain is be the reason that Kypton explodes is a good twist, plus it could give a reason for Superman to go buck wild.

kalelkilla
12-20-2009, 12:12 PM
Making an entertaining and enjoyable Superman Movie would be the only twist I need.

wattabrownsound
12-20-2009, 02:11 PM
-Jor-el and Lara aren't Kal-el's real parents.
-Somehow Jor-el is responsible for the creation of Doomsday.

El Payaso
12-20-2009, 04:27 PM
A kitchen twist... like in Spiderman 3.

afan
12-21-2009, 11:45 AM
George Reeves WAS murdered................................... by a relative of Brian Singer!

GreenKToo
12-21-2009, 01:14 PM
50 ft spiders. And throw some polar bears in for good measure. The polar bears can talk btw.
No flying either. Give Superman a superhot car to fight crime in like Batman has.
Make the suit black, and see through. Nothing says super like being able to see his internal organs working.

I'd say that would be such a twist that half of our heads would spin off from seeing it.

wattabrownsound
12-28-2009, 10:10 PM
every major event in superman's life was all part of some prophecy that he was unknowingly fulfilling.

wattabrownsound
01-03-2010, 09:26 AM
I don't know how or if I can quote from one thread into another but...

DavidTyler mentioned this in the Opinion from a guy who doesn't like Superman thread, "Oh.. and Krypton was never destroyed... in fact it never existed. Krypton was actually Earth's future and Jor-el sent Kal-el into the past to be his own great grandfather."

When I read this i thought i would make a great twist. Below I reworded it adding some stuff.

In the future we are no longer called Humans but Kryptonians and now call Earth Krypton. I don't know why. So when Krypton explodes its also Earth as we knew it being destroyed. But before it does Jor-el sends Kal-el into the past. If Krypton is Earth it would account for how Jor-el knew about Earth. Also being found be Ma and Pa Kent would not be a coincidence, Jor-el is actually related to them in the future.

Webhead2006
01-03-2010, 12:53 PM
that would be a bit strange to play with that idea. It does remind me of one of those crazy theories about certain aliens who come to earth and all that from ufo/alien things on history-discovery channel.

Sub-Zero
01-05-2010, 12:41 AM
brainiac destroyed krypton right as kal-el is being sent to earth. brainiac follows kal-el's ship, and makes earth his next target. brainiac arrives on earth at the end, which would be the cliffhanger setup for the sequel. kinda like galactus and tas brainiac,but not kryptonian or a cloud. not really a huge twist :|

GreenKToo
01-05-2010, 07:27 AM
Thats straight out of red Sun..a good read BTW.

BH/HHH
01-05-2010, 01:34 PM
When they do eventually reboot Superman and if they go with the origin story I would use a similar stor to the one thats in the STAS episodes: The Last Son of Krypton. Where Brainiac betrayed his father on Krypton, but have Superman find this out later in the film from the fortress.

Webhead2006
01-06-2010, 02:39 AM
i still would like to see them pick trait/ideals from each era that defined the character well and then build up an all original story around that. I just dont know to see next guys decide to base the character solely on one take/incarnation of the character.

Raith
01-08-2010, 10:17 AM
Superman fights a super villain that has all the same powers as Superman. By the end it is revealed that the villain is a clone created by Lex Luther sending DNA from Superman's hair in to the sun along with some nuclear missles.......oh....wait......

BH/HHH
01-09-2010, 12:57 PM
I always loved the Brainiac betrayed Krypton story of the animated series. They could use this in a Superman film where Brainiac comes to earth and at first befriends Kal-El in a bid to get what he wants and in the film Superman could discover that he betrayed his father and Krypton.

Changeling
01-09-2010, 01:57 PM
Twist..
we discover Jor-El didn't actually build the escape rocket for his son.. But actually made it to save his own skin after discovering Lara had an affair with Zod and fearing (quite rightly as we discover in the sequel) that Kal-El is actually the son of Zod.
Idk if youre kidding, but I love this idea. I think it'd be great to have him only find this out with Zod as the baddie in the second one, but have him not really be bad. Here's my idea:

The first movie could like one year into Superman's career, it wouldnt delve into the origin, and we could have Lex and Metallo as the villains. In the end we could be left on a cliffhanger of Zod returning to Earth.

In the second film, they could have Zod and Brainiac be the bad guys. Maybe like two thirds through it could be revealed that Jor-El made the rocket for himself and was going to send himself in it, and he used his leverage on the council to frame Zod for various crimes that were actually committed by Jor-El, before Zod is sent to the Phantom Zone, he tells Lara that Jor-El knows that Krypton will explode and he tells her to keep Kal-El safe, they kiss, and then he is sent to the Phantom Zone. Before Jor-El gets in the ship, Lara kills him and puts Kal-El in instead. In the third act, Zod and Clark fight together to save Earth from Brainiac. Towards the end of the fight though, Brainiac kills Zod, and in a rage, Clark destroys Brainiac. In the end Clark thinks everything is fine, and he ends up getting Lois. This film could be the end of the series or it could leave it open for another sequel.

BH/HHH
01-09-2010, 02:00 PM
Don't like that idea the point is Jor-El is supposed to be a good man and his son is supposed to grow up to be like his father. Zod should always be bad.

Mr. Earle
01-09-2010, 02:03 PM
Jor-El is evil, Zod is good....
That's it, i am applying for a red lantern ring!

Changeling
01-09-2010, 02:09 PM
You're angry?

BH/HHH
01-09-2010, 02:22 PM
I think there are some things you can change but Jor-El been evil and Zod been good isnt one of them.

Sub-Zero
01-09-2010, 03:27 PM
what if jor-el destroyed krypton to get back at the counsel that doubted him.

Mr. Earle
01-09-2010, 04:21 PM
You're angry?
Naah, not really. But i will be if they adapt your ideas. I mean its a pretty big departure from canon. Its like Thomas Wayne being the Joker.

BH/HHH
01-09-2010, 04:39 PM
Naah, not really. But i will be if they adapt your ideas. I mean its a pretty big departure from canon. Its like Thomas Wayne being the Joker.

Agreed its too much

wattabrownsound
01-19-2010, 08:57 PM
Lara and jor-el escape krypton with kal-el but die en route to earth or on earth due to that problem where Kryptonians can't leave the planet. Jor-el was going to inoculate himself and Lara along the way but lost the needles or they get destroyed.

Daybreak_st
01-21-2010, 01:53 PM
My idea for a twist in the new superman movie, you’ll have to read the section below to understand where I’m coming from. I wrote what would be the opening scene of the movie.


The movie begins in Smallville Kansas. Some sporting event is just finishing up. We get our first look at Clark Kent and Lana Lang. They are both in their freshmen or sophomore year in high school. Clark is a star athlete, excelling in the classroom and on the field. The interaction we see is brief but establishes that these two are close, best friends, much more akin to Clark’s relationship with Chloe rather than Lana, from smallville the tv show. There may even be a budding romance between the two, but it hasn’t come to fruition b/c they both think it might jeopardize their friendship (although neither one knows what the other is thinking). Lana asks Clark why he’s recently begun wearing glasses. He says he’s been having headaches from eye strain recently and thinks the glasses will help. [Here we’re establishing why clark kent would be wearing glasses, also that his powers have been growing gradually up to this point and haven’t fully emerged yet.]

Clark hears an ear-piercing sound, lana asks what’s wrong, he’s like, “what is that? Can you hear that”. Lana has no idea what he’s talking about. Then the sound goes away and clark feels fine. He dismisses it and heads for home.

Pulling up to the farm in his dad’s pickup truck, clark hears the piercing sound again. He realizes it’s coming from the barn. Slowly making his way to the barn he notices that the cellar in the barn is open, the underground location of the ship that brought him to earth. “Dad is that you?” he asks as he cautiously approaches. A medium built man stands over the ship as it glows as the sounds continue emanating from it. The man turns around to acknowledge Clark. His eyes glow a greenish color. We begin seeing things from his perspective. It looks like a display screen of some sort and after cycling through trying to identity what clark is, it matches his dna signature as a potential kryptonian (30%). “What are you doing in here?” clark demands.

The scenes switches to inside the Kent home. Jonathan and Martha are preparing for dinner. You see them as a real family, good character stuff here. They’re talking about Clark, their life, maybe doubts or concerns they have. They are startled by the sound of a loud crash outside and are horrored to see Johnathan’s truck in flames, even more shocked as they watch Clark emerge from the ruble.

Clark tells them to run as the robot leaps out of the barn and lands on the remains of the truck, then lunges at Clark. Martha screams. Just as the robot has Clark pinned and is about to initiate a probe of some sort, a shotgun blasts it back. Jonathan tells Clark to stay down and keeps firing at the robot. After taking a few direct shots to the head and chest the robot identifies Jonathan as a threat that must be terminated. As it prepares to leap toward Jonathan, Clark grabs it and punches it several times, showing an increase in strength and further damaging the robot. Clark hears the robot’s reading of “60% Kryptonian”, it startles him enough to hesitate in his assault. The robot knocks him a good 30 feet away landing in the cornfield, and turns to resume its attack on Jonathan. The handle of the shot gun shatters as it hits the robot’s head. Unhindered by Jonathans’ attack the robot prepares to kill him with its razor sharp talons.


Everything slows down as we begin seeing the situation from Clark perspective. He’s starting to pick himself up in the cornfield but can see the danger his father is in. He starts to run as fast as he can and just before impact with the robot he takes flight for the first time, with the robot in tow.


The robot struggles to break Clark’s grip and even slashes him with is talons, which have no effect on Clark. From its viewport the reading rapidly increases from 60% to 70%, 80%, 90% then as Clark’s eyes begin to glow with his anger, the reading displays %100 Kryptonian as it is incinerated by Clark’s heat vision.


Clark remains hovering with the lifeless robot in his arms until he hears Martha scream “JOHNATHAN!!!” Clark turns to look back at the farm with shock. We see a full frame of his face wearing a worried expression. He wakes up in the present, visibly startled by the dream/memory from his past.

After this scene Clark discovers that the remains of the brainiac drone/probe are missing. Later we discover that a young rouge scientist working for star Labs, has the remains. In studying it he determines that the alloy is not from earth and discovers a host of other things that point to it having extraterrestrial origin. The scientist is able to reverse engineer the advanced technology and uses this knowledge to advance his own personal agenda. The rouge scientist is Lex Luthor. He uses the knowledge he gains to create several technological breakthroughs and founds LexCorp. He has an antagonistic relationship with star labs after this.

This all happens in the ten year period between the opening scene in the movie and Clark finally appearing as superman. All of this isn’t necessarily shown on screen but is implied. What we do see at some point is that lex has a room that still holds the robot. At some point he’s explaining everything to someone maybe lois or Clark or both, then he points out how the metal like material the robot is composed of is harder than any substance known to man. He then asks then to look closer. He points out what appears to be the imprint of a human hand on the robot’s arm (were Clark grabbed it).

Lois looks surprised. “Now what kind of a person would be strong enough to do that?” Lex poses the question (maybe lois and Clark are both there). “Superman?” Lois mumbles to herself. “As you can see the hand print isn’t that of a full grown man but possibly a teenager. It appears our ‘Man of Steel’ has been here longer than any of us knew….Hmm…I wonder what he was doing all that time before he came to metropolis…don’t you, Lois?”

Daybreak_st
01-21-2010, 02:00 PM
LexCorp leads the world in cutting edge technology and military applications of this technology. Lex creates metallo with the a synthetic version of the metal on the brainiac probe. When superman confronts metallo he notices the similarity in his design to the robot and wonders if they are somehow connected.

Also near the end of the film the probe reactivates, perhaps after clark leaves the room in the scene where lex describes everything. It says "kryptonian identified, initiating homing beacon" (essentially it's picking up where it left off ten years before it was incinerated by clark). the movie ends in the far reaches of space as a lone skull shaped ship cruises along, suddenly coming to life as if recieves the beacon. Brainiac is coming to earth. The end.

Webhead2006
01-21-2010, 06:43 PM
some nice ideas there.

Daybreak_st
01-22-2010, 09:49 AM
Thanks Webhead :)

Frodo
01-22-2010, 04:19 PM
As for as the Jor El / Zod relationship , I'd keep the status quo of Jor El good and Zod evil , except I would make Jor El something of a mentor to Zod.

They had a close almost , and I say almost a father/son like relationship. Once Zod and his allies decide to overthrow the government Zod goes to Jor El in search for an ally . Jor El refushes and in turs informs the council of Zod's treasoness acts .

Once Zod is found guilty and caught Jor El asks the council to spare his life and send him and his cohorts to the phantom zone. Zod nevertheless see's it as a betrayal which is part of Zod's anger and vengence toward Jor-El.

Hence, Jor El is strict and stern when it comes to Kal El since he wants to avoid him from becoming arrogant and power hungry the way Zod did.

That would be one way of adding some depth to Zod , instead him just being a mad general.

El Payaso
01-22-2010, 04:28 PM
As for as the Jor El / Zod relationship , I'd keep the status quo of Jor El good and Zod evil , except I would make Jor El something of a mentor to Zod.

They had a close almost , and I say almost a father/son like relationship. Once Zod and his allies decide to overthrow the government Zod goes to Jor El in search for an ally . Jor El refushes and in turs informs the council of Zod's treasoness acts .

Once Zod is found guilty and caught Jor El asks the council to spare his life and send him and his cohorts to the phantom zone. Zod nevertheless see's it as a betrayal which is part of Zod's anger and vengence toward Jor-El.

Hence, Jor El is strict and stern when it comes to Kal El since he wants to avoid him from becoming arrogant and power hungry the way Zod did.

That would be one way of adding some depth to Zod , instead him just being a mad general.

What about the same but Zod is the mentor.

Webhead2006
01-22-2010, 11:13 PM
could see that being a good thing.

wattabrownsound
01-23-2010, 07:23 PM
even though jor-el and lara surviving the destruction of krypton with Kal-el but dying later on would be a twist, is their death on krypton one of those things that just shouldn't change?

Webhead2006
01-23-2010, 10:00 PM
yea i wouldnt want their death on krypton changed. There is certain things you should/need to keep right. While other details could be altered a bit to give this take different then others.

Anubis
01-23-2010, 10:33 PM
How about no Zod. I'm about sick of that A-hole at this point.

Webhead2006
01-24-2010, 12:02 AM
i dont see any issue with zod myself. its all about how the character will be written, and what they do with him.

Vaibow
01-24-2010, 05:53 AM
i dont see any issue with zod myself. its all about how the character will be written, and what they do with him.


How about this, the phantom zone is a time portal. It's a glass like mirror sheet, when touch it, it's surface is like water and is how you transend into it.

When you appear the other side, admist static electricity similar to the classic terminator entries, it is actually earth.

Earth is the phantom zone, a planet where kryptonians are sent as punishment for being Tyrants and their objective is to redevelop the region they exist in - they will learn that leading is harder than it seems, a moral lesson.

Upon Krypton's destruction, Jor El's only hope is to send his only son, with guidance, hoping it can be a more positive protector?????

Just an idea...

Frodo
01-24-2010, 08:56 PM
As far as other twists or something new, I wouldn't have lex be behind Brainac or Metallo or whoever because that's been done to death, and to have Luthor be behind every bad thing that happens in Metropolis or to Superman is tired imo .

I'd also take the SV route and have Lex believe what he's doing is for the good of humanity. He does see Superman as a threat to the world. He see's him as a God who can turn on human's at any second . For me it's more frightening to have someone like Lex doing what he does because he feels it's right for humanity then because he wants to destroy the world or feels that he should be the only big fish in town.

I even think Lex should be portrayed as very charming and likeable, instead of just a creepy guy. Again, that's more scary to me then the bald guy who's odviously bad yet he with power who somehow fools everyone. At least with him as a charmer you could understand how he's snowed so many people and how it would come as a shock to Metropolans that he has this dark side. It would also put Superman in the awkward postion of knowing what Lex is capable of and knowing he's bad ,but really unable to convince people that he is a threat. That way you have Metropolis's favorite son pit against it's savior , and in the public's mind they're both heroes.

Webhead2006
01-27-2010, 05:20 AM
vai that would be a bit odd twist there.

wattabrownsound
02-05-2010, 08:05 PM
Jor-el, Lara and...Kal-el die on Krypton when it explodes. But still somehow the story moves forward as we all know it.

RachelDawes
02-05-2010, 09:33 PM
^How on earth could that possibly happen?

wattabrownsound
02-05-2010, 09:37 PM
I don't know but it sure would be a big mind****.

aia
02-05-2010, 11:29 PM
superman returns was just a bad dream?

Vaibow
02-06-2010, 03:30 AM
superman returns was just a bad dream?


I have often wondered how the movie audience would take that idea...

like, the next film starts off with superman telling lois he will always be around - then alarms bells start ringing and superman comes too, he is suspended in animation in his capsule and he is hurtling through space, about to see the chattered debris of Krypton.

Nothing is there, he goes back.

Back to Metropolis, where he only left the planet for a month and he did tell the world and did as clark, create a decent story for why.. then start the ball rolling on a sequel with a whole new cast, except for Brandon, ofcourse...

not what i want, but an idea... sounds a bit 1980's soap opera

RachelDawes
02-06-2010, 03:14 PM
superman returns was just a bad dream?

That would be a huge cop-out.

aia
02-06-2010, 04:20 PM
That would be a huge cop-out.


Yep it would be but it worked with Wizard of Oz, or i know that film was a set in an alternative universe just like in the comics- like Captain thunder was a super hero in a different alternative universe-but some how ended up in supermans (superman comics from the 70's).:hehe:
Quite handy those alternative universe's when writers don't know how to dig them self out of plot holes. :cwink:

Webhead2006
02-07-2010, 12:20 AM
for me i wished it just wasnt made.

NotFadeAway
02-07-2010, 01:09 AM
My big twist idea has always been to make Jor-El a villian, but nobody seems to like that one, and I can't even convince myself half the time.

Webhead2006
02-07-2010, 02:12 AM
yea i personally wouldnt want to see that fade. its a cool idea to play with though.

NotFadeAway
02-07-2010, 09:28 AM
yea i personally wouldnt want to see that fade. its a cool idea to play with though.

It's elseworld material at the end of the day, it could be interesting elseworld material, but thats all.

But I do still like my idea of having the same actor play both Jor-El and Braniac, with Braniac taken on humanoid form as Jor-El when first arriving on Earth and then revealing his robotic look from S:TAS later.

mjbull23
02-07-2010, 01:33 PM
Jor El builds a spacecraft large enough to accomodate his entire family and the three of them begin the long voyage to earth. They use hyperbolic sleep chambers similiar to what was seen at the beggining of Aliens when ripley was discovered by the salvage team.

Now Lara and Jor El still fail to survive the voyage, but Kal is alive and well. Immediately we see a Military Retrieval Unit dispatched to the location of the spacecrafts crash. Before the military arrives though, the Kents retrieve little Kal and Pa Kent retrieves the green mother crystal that serves as the link and vessel of Kryptons historical archives and also acts as a medium between Kal and his biological parents. Jonathan gives the crystal to his son on his 15th birthday.

The craft is recovered and the military begins to survey all of this wonderful technology found aboard the craft. Enter Lex Luthor who at the time works for the government as director of research and technology and he gets very involved with the kryptonian research....

Sets up an interesting premise whereby not only does Clark learn about his heritage and his technology via the crystal, but at the same time and in a completely different manner, unbeknownst to him, Lex Luthor is also learning about Krypton and developing all sorts of interesting applicational uses for Krypto Tech as well.

It sets up a diametrically oppositional relationship between the two, and it also helps lay the groundwork for bringing in Brainiac (Luthor learns of the supercomputers existence) via records found on the spacecraft.). Maybe even the existence of Warworld...(Darkseid), the Phantom Zone. .....

Webhead2006
02-08-2010, 02:01 AM
that would be a cool angle to go with for brainiac fade.

Daybreak_st
02-16-2010, 08:45 AM
I was thinking it would interesting to borrow some elements from the Ultimates in that there has been a sort of a genetics/ technological arms race brewing.

Luthor corp is leading the world in the manufacturing of space age technology along with military applications. At the same time research institutes like Cadmus is trying manufacture genetic weapons. In the midst of this backdrop superman arrives.

The world is in awe and stunned at the same time. This also leads to the deployment of some of the said weapons both genetic and technological, this could lead to birth of supervillains like parasite, and metallo. Even bizarro after they get a sample of superman's dna and try to create a clone.

This is obviously the backdrop for multiple films not just one.

Again this is a fictional world, i'd like to see the differences between our reality their reality brought to the fore. It would also establish why superman isn't involved in stopping wars everywhere etc, as he'd more specifically be preoccupied with superhuman threats, that no one else can handle.

Daybreak_st
02-16-2010, 08:48 AM
And in addition to that setup the other films would include things like alien invasions etc. Really pushing the scifi elements of the character.

That person
02-16-2010, 11:35 AM
They could leave the nature of the destruction of Krypton vague, with the only details given to Kal-L being that it was destroyed by an entity known as Vril Dox. Meanwhile, LexCorp, led by charismatic mayoral candidate Lex Luthor, is aiming to create the most advanced AI in human history, dubbed "Brainiac." At the climax, where Brainiac takes on a robotic body and begins an attempt to miniaturize Metropolis (a destructive and chaotic process), it is revealed that Brainiac is Vril Dox. Sure, fans could see it from several miles away, but to the GA, it could be quite a twist if played right.

Daybreak_st
02-16-2010, 11:45 AM
They could leave the nature of the destruction of Krypton vague, with the only details given to Kal-L being that it was destroyed by an entity known as Vril Dox. Meanwhile, LexCorp, led by charismatic mayoral candidate Lex Luthor, is aiming to create the most advanced AI in human history, dubbed "Brainiac." At the climax, where Brainiac takes on a robotic body and begins an attempt to miniaturize Metropolis (a destructive and chaotic process), it is revealed that Brainiac is Vril Dox. Sure, fans could see it from several miles away, but to the GA, it could be quite a twist if played right.


That's a pretty nice twist :yay:

Webhead2006
02-16-2010, 12:37 PM
good ideas day and that person

GL1
05-11-2010, 09:27 AM
Now a lot of twists to care about, are there? Superman is a pretty straightforward event.


Who blew up Krypton? Brainiac, Darkseid, Zod... Jor-El!... Zor-El!
A high-risk one would be to have a pivotal scene with Superman early in a film, likely involving Lois. Bizzaro shows up later in the film, and still later, Superman reveals he doesn't recall that incident, that it was Bizzaro who Lois interacted with. This change in a pivotal scene changes the meaning of everything that's happened in the film since then.
That's not Lois... it's Clayface!... BizzaroLois!
Zod is... Superman's Grandfather!...
Krypton was... Really a dystopian wasteland!...
Pa Kent... Knew something about Krypton the whole time!
Lex Luthor... Is dying!... Is a clone!
Doomsday is... Zor-El!... Krypto!...


Superman doesn't lend himself to huge twists...