What villain or villains would you like to see them kick start the reboot with?

[Batspider77]

No more boring Symbiotes please....give Hoffmann the role of Otto Octavius and you have a Perfect Cast Sony.

[Oscorp]

Yeah Rhino needs to have some kind of story. I think one of the best Spidey comics I ever read is one where the Rhino was rampaging because all he wanted was to feel something. Spidey finally nails him with a power line while Rhino was standing in a puddle and just fried the **** out of him. Rhino chuckles and say "Thank You". That level of pathos is what I want to see in a Rhino based Spidey film. A character who just wants to be an unstoppable thug and ends up haunted because he can no longer feel anything

I love Rhino (when taken seriously) and I love the sound of this. What issue is that? I'd love to read more about it.

Scorpion would be another good villain, especially AGAIN if you contrast the differnece in size between Spider-Man and the Scorpion, and emphasize that tail. He is very similiar to the effect of Doc Ock with his tentacles.

But with Scorpion, you need to emphasize the size difference. I would love to see a scene in a movie (future cause I do not think Scorpion would be the best choice for the first movie of the reboot) come alive straight from the comic's panel of Spidey crouching in the street with Scorpion towering over him (obviously much larger body frame than him) and EVEN MORE SO with the tail... *along with Scorpion Made potholes in the street from striking at Spidey).

*Geeks Out*.. almost (ALMOST I said..) as good as how "geeked" I was over the thought of a wall battle in SM2 when Ock was announced. Ahhh.. good times and memories.. Make us some more Webb. :up:

Totally agree! Scorpion is such a bad-ass! And what issue is that panel in? Sorry, but I just want to see it too :)

[Dead Ken]

I think Someone like Scorpion should be left to a sequel, when Spider-man is an established character in the film NYC. Since he was created for the purpose of defeating Spider-man by JJJ, so it should be like the attention of the media, which doesn't help with his insanity or something, I see him as 'what if spiderman chose wealth and fame over responsibility...I don't know, I'm kind of hungover, it makes sense to me.
For an origin film (that we don't even need) I want to see someone who is opposite to Spidey in character, like someone who ignores responsiblility for more a realist 'every-man-for-himself' way of life. Like Shocker, or Vulture, a Ditko/Lee villain. Also I LOVE that rhino story someone mentioned above me, where he wants to feel something.

[Oscorp]

best rogues in the comic business

spider-man
batman
flash

and yet you see the same villians over and over again. riddler for batman and venom for spidey...again...yay...

I'm not into Flash at all but agree about Spidey and Batman! There are tons of awesome villains to chose from! The opportunities are endless!

But the "news" about Venom is clearly fake. And we don't know about Riddler yet.

[spider-neil]

I'm not into Flash at all but agree about Spidey and Batman! There are tons of awesome villains to chose from! The opportunities are endless!

But the "news" about Venom is clearly fake. And we don't know about Riddler yet.

I'm not a flash fan but his villians are awesome and there are a s*** load of them.

[hugekent]

I want a relatively less dangerous opponent. I don't want Spider-Man's development to be glacially slow, but I want him to improve over the series and that can't happen if his first villain is too formidable.

[The Slang]

Also I LOVE that rhino story someone mentioned above me, where he wants to feel something.

That sounds alittle... Emo and whiney to me. Goes on a rampage because he 'wants to feel something'? That's Lame. He's a brute. And then thanks spidey for eletrocuting him? what is he a masochist? Did he get tired of cutting himself listening to marilyn manson?

[Oscorp]

I want a relatively less dangerous opponent. I don't want Spider-Man's development to be glacially slow, but I want him to improve over the series and that can't happen if his first villain is too formidable.

^The reason why I still think Green Goblin for Spider-Man 1 was a bad choice.

[Matt Mortem]

That sounds alittle... Emo and whiney to me. Goes on a rampage because he 'wants to feel something'? That's Lame. He's a brute. And then thanks spidey for eletrocuting him? what is he a masochist? Did he get tired of cutting himself listening to marilyn manson?

Umm his suit makes him feel nothing. No pain, no physical sensation. It's not Emo or Whiney, its a character with a bit of depth. But if you prefer the mindless brute Rhino, more power to you

[Matt Mortem]

the lizard man would be the best. imagine a villain on the same playing field as spiderman he can crawl and leap on buildings , the fight scene would be cooler than doc oc and spidey in spiderman 2.

Lizard is fine as long as they establish a connection as Dr. Connors. It would add depth to the story. Two characters, each with extraordinary powers, one does good, there other goes mad

[The Joker]

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[Matt Mortem]

I'm not a huge Hoffman fan so him as Octavius doesn't make me jump for joy. I wouldn't be crushed if he got the part though. He's a decent enough actor so I know he won't botch it.

[The Joker]

Ted Raimi does not have the acting chops to pull off a character like Doc Ock lol.

[Alex The Great]

They're talking about some other Hoffman :o

[The Joker]

I bloody well hope so!

[Ken-Kaniff]

They are talking about Philip Seymour Hoffman, who was rumoured to play a Spider-Man Villain, not of Ted Raimi (who played the character Hoffman in Raimi's Trilogy)!;)

[The Joker]

They are talking about Philip Seymour Hoffman, who was rumoured to play a Spider-Man Villain, not of Ted Raimi (who played the character Hoffman in Raimi's Trilogy)!;)

And my faith in the Hype's populous is restored :cwink:

[Alex The Great]

Heh. I have no idea who this guy is :o

I mean, I've heard the rumor but I don't know who he is :o

[DarthDaveBanner]

I'd say there's more chance of seeing Hypno-Hustler in this film than Venom.

[Alex The Great]

Don't diss Hypno-Hustler! :argh:

[spider-neil]

it would be cool if the villian was mysterio and while he was fighting spidey he created holograms of other classic spidey villians. 6 for the price one.

* the spidey fans are happy because they see loads of spidey's villians on the big screen without years of waiting

* the marketing department is happy because they can merchandise loads of villians to the kids

* the writers are happy becuase they are essentially writting ONE villian

[Oscorp]

^I wouldn't like that. I want to see for example Shocker as more than a hologram if I'd see him. It would just feel like evil teasing to me.

[Project862006]

if he was younger Kevin durand would of made a bad ass eddie brock

[I'm Venom]

Have Adrian Toomes as an ex-employee who tries to take revenge on Norman Osborn, only to clash repeatedly with Spider-Man. Meanwhile, Norman cements his position in New York’s underworld by supplying the means to create a countermeasure to Spider-Man’s interference in business: Shocker, who reaches out to Vulture to take out Spider-Man. Spider-Man manages to save the day.

As for casting:
- Adrian Toomes/Vulture: Robert Englund
- Eddie Brock: Jensen Ackles

[Ken-Kaniff]

Heh. I have no idea who this guy is :o

I mean, I've heard the rumor but I don't know who he is :o
It's just a stupid rumour, I don't want him as Ock anyway lol! As for Eddie Brock, he would be even worse!

But as I said, it's just a rumour. As for people who are worrying about Venom, I'm pretty sure he won't be in the first movie and most likely not even the second, so quit worrying.

[GoldGoblin]

So were gonna get Venom,then the sequels will give us Doc Ock and Green Goblin,then we reboot again and make Doc Ock the first villain in it.Just keep recycling these three villains and then rebooting.

[GoldGoblin]

I could see Philip Seymour Hoffman playing JJJ.

[Alex The Great]

I could see Philip Seymour Hoffman playing JJJ.
:dry:

[GoldGoblin]

:dry:


^
So,i'm not the only one.

[LightningFlash]

Andrew Garfield as Peter Parker: "Sir, I hate how you always make Spider-Man look like the criminal. He was saving the hostages!!"

Philip Seymour Hoffman as J. Jonah Jameson: "Let it rain!!"

[Ken-Kaniff]

I could see Philip Seymour Hoffman playing JJJ.
http://oi55.tinypic.com/qovjmw.jpg

[Dark Raven]

If Phillips Seymour Hoffman keeps putting on weight, at the rate he's going, he could play Wilson Fisk, and could get the required height with the magic of CGI.

[Alex The Great]

If Phillips Seymour Hoffman keeps putting on weight, at the rate he's going, he could play Wilson Fisk, and could get the required height with the magic of CGI.
They wouldn't be able to use him. Damn Fox has the rights :cmad:

[Ken-Kaniff]

The hell with Kingpin anyway, Spider-Man has way better deserving villains that must be used!

[Venom'sDad]

I want a relatively less dangerous opponent. I don't want Spider-Man's development to be glacially slow, but I want him to improve over the series and that can't happen if his first villain is too formidable.Exactly... one of many reasons I suggest Chameleon as one of the villains in the opening film.

:up:

[LightningFlash]

Actually...that sounds pretty cool.

And if Green Goblin becomes the third film's main villain, and Spidey finally has come to realize his potential, that would just be fantastic. And for him to know his abilities but then loses a loved one(Gwen).

[Alex The Great]

I want Captain Stacy to be killed off first :o

[LightningFlash]

Well, he can die first...but it wouldn't really be a loved one for Pete, lol.

[Alex The Great]

Well, he can die first...but it wouldn't really be a loved one for Pete, lol.
Well, When Stacy died in the comics, He told Spider-Man he knew he was Peter, and told Peter to take care of Gwen. If they did this in the movies, it would make the death of Gwen even more powerful and emotional. Because Peter had failed Gwen's father. Or something like that. It would just make it more sad

[LightningFlash]

Yah, it'd make it even more sad, but I don't think it would happen.

If it WERE to happen...Captain Stacy would have to find out in the first film, then die in the second and Gwen would die in the third.

And that would just be too much. I'd rather see a huge death in the first movie and then another in the third to spread it out.

And I'm just saying that because the reboot will most likely just be a trilogy.

[terry78]

I wouldn't mind seeing the Enforcers fight him. Maybe in some kind of montage thing as he's describing something that happened or having it show some time going by.

[Venom'sDad]

I wouldn't mind seeing the Enforcers fight him. Maybe in some kind of montage thing as he's describing something that happened or having it show some time going by.

Funny you should mention them; because, I have the Enforcers in my opening film as well.... probably not the way you expected. ;)

[Alex The Great]

Indeed. The Enforcers could just be a cameo :up:

[Octoberist]

Heh. I have no idea who this guy is :o

I mean, I've heard the rumor but I don't know who he is :o

Maybe I'm misreading your comment, but you don't know Phillip Semour Hoffman is? I'm sure you've seen him in movies though, because he's been in tons.

[Octoberist]

Funny how The Lizard is the new 'Cyclops' of the Spider-Man series, reboot or not. No respect!

BTW, that's my new term: 'Cyclops' when a character doesn't get a chance to shine at all and gets screwed over. Thank you X3.

[©KAW]

I can see Sony hasn't stopped the childish secrecy bull. More of this guessing crap, when Green Lantern and the new X-Men movie are running their cast out of their ass like diarrhea. While Spider-Man fans are stuck with playing the guessing game.

Oh, and NO VENOM, it's much too soon. I like the idea of Rhino and The Shocker, actually sounds pretty good. But I think they're going to go with THE LIZARD.

[DACrowe]

Wait so is the Lizard never going to have a shot? Seriously. Sonofa*****. My favorite Spidey villain.

Oh well.

BTW if anyone doesn't see the writing on the wall...Norman Osborn will be in Spidey 1 and be the big bad GG in Spidey 2 a la TDK--right down to him probably killing the hero's girlfriend.

Not a bad formula to follow.

[©KAW]

Have you read the script?

I don't see a damn thing written on the wall. :dry:

[bweurk]

I know i haven't post here in a long time, and I know a very few (and may be it's an euphemism) people will agree with me, but eventhough it's a rumour, I could see Phillip Seymour Hoffman playing Eddie Brock, but it would have to be Todd McFarlane's Eddie Brock, who looked really older than Peter and who wasn't very muscular until his reporter carreer was ruined and he met the symbiote. But he shouldn't be the bad guy in the first movie, I think he just should be a reporter at the Daily Buggle who could befriend Peter (or not), like Ben Ulrich (who is own by Fox I think, so there's a gap to fill), and in a later movie become Venom, but then, Hoffman would have to pull a "Michael Chicklis" and go from a "chubby actor" to the ultimate bad ass... I think it could really work...

[Gianakin_]

So, wait, since when did that PSH as Venom ******** become something more solid than a rumor?

[Gianakin_]

BTW if anyone doesn't see the writing on the wall...Norman Osborn will be in Spidey 1 and be the big bad GG in Spidey 2 a la TDK--right down to him probably killing the hero's girlfriend.

Not a bad formula to follow.

I'd be very happy if they went that route.

[LuisTX85]

^Same!

[BrollySupersj]

I'm probably a minority in the minus here, but I think The Rhino would be a good way to start off.

[Gianakin_]

I'm probably a minority in the minus here, but I think The Rhino would be a good way to start off.

As a main villain? I could definitely see a great chance to use him in the movie where they re-introduce Venom, for the shuttle incident that set loose the symbiote.

[Ken-Kaniff]

As a main villain? I could definitely see a great chance to use him in the movie where they re-introduce Venom, for the shuttle incident that set loose the symbiote.
I hope you are sarcastic lol!

That would be a copy of The Animated Series from the 90s, get real!

[Gianakin_]

I hope you are sarcastic lol!

That would be a copy of The Animated Series from the 90s, get real!

And the wrong thing with that is...?

[Sentinel X]

I'm probably a minority in the minus here, but I think The Rhino would be a good way to start off. I agree. They could make him like abomination from the hulk. It would definitely be a different approach to a spider-man film

[spidermanJLA!~]

Rhino working for who, exactly? Just saying, but Rhino should work for Kingpin or Tombstone, someone like that. He isn't exactly the smartest villain. Unless you go with Ultimate Rhino, which is not bad, because a robotic suit is kinda cool and could work.

[Oscorp]

Rhino should look like this imo:
http://www.shazam.se/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/rhino1.jpg
http://oi52.tinypic.com/3304977.jpg (http://oi52.tinypic.com/3304977.jpg)


He could definitely be a bad-ass villain!

[Jerkofwonder]

Isn't the rumor that PSH is playing Eddie Brock? If they are going ultimate route, as I seem to recall them saying, he would make a fine Eddie Brock Sr. They could set up the symbiote and Brock jr. without making Venom the villain, or giving Peter the black suit. In fact some of the best character development in Ult. Spiderman took place in this part of the story. It'd also be a good way to introduce Dr. Connors.

[Alex The Great]

I always hated the USM origin of Venom. A symbiote suit that cures Cancer? No thanks :down

[Oscorp]

^Agreed. And I still don't think the symbiote and Venom/Eddie Brock should have such a big and central part of the franchise. There are far more important characters in the Spidey universe.

[Gianakin_]

I liked it. I always prefer an origin/explanation that doesn't involve space. Same with Jean Grey and the Phoenix. The Shi' ar? No, thanks.

[terry78]

Rhino obviously wouldn't be working alone, but have people assume he is, only later on to discover the bigger picture.

[Oscorp]

^That would be cool! Like, he comes out of nowhere at first.

[Venom'sDad]

Rhino obviously wouldn't be working alone, but have people assume he is, only later on to discover the bigger picture.

Exactly ;)

[LightningFlash]

BTW if anyone doesn't see the writing on the wall...Norman Osborn will be in Spidey 1 and be the big bad GG in Spidey 2 a la TDK--right down to him probably killing the hero's girlfriend.

Not a bad formula to follow.

I'd hate that.

Yah, let's copy Nolan's Batman films to a T.

:doh:

[Alex The Great]

What? They develop Norman in SM1, make him decend slowly into madness. Then he becomes GG in the sequel and kills Gwen.

[LightningFlash]

I hate copycats, though.

Have GG in the third film and as the final baddie to round up the trilogy.

[Alex The Great]

They have to kill off Gwen in the second. That way MJ gets her shot with Peter

[LightningFlash]

Gwen could die in the third and we just see MJ BECOMING closer to Peter. Gwen doesn't need to bite the dust at the very end of the film; I could see it happening middle-ways.

[Alex The Great]

No MJ needs a film to herself. An idea like that is one of the reasons why SM3 failed. MJ and Peter can't get together right away. We need proper pacing.

[BrollySupersj]

Having Rhino would be the first time in the movies that Spider-Man was totally and utterly physically out matched, and being nearly 2 times as big...could make a for a great fight.

[MikeFrost]

I'd hate that.

Yah, let's copy Nolan's Batman films to a T.

:doh:

That's the thing, isn't it?

TDK did first what Spider-man did decades before in the comics.

They balled it up and did something on a movie where the female wasn't as pivotal to the hero as Gwen was to Spidey in the comics. Batman is a loner obsessed with his goal, that's why we never got a definite female love interest in his mythos. Yet, it is how it is and there's no point arguing who did what first or where.

I honestly don't care what they do aslong as it makes sense. Saying they're copying Nolan's films just because they're doing the same dramatic cues is a bit of a stretch. There's other triologies where the middle film is the one with the bittersweet ending (Empire Strikes Back, anyone?).

I recall the final scene from the first Raimi Spidey movie on the cemetery where Peter first turns Mary Jane down. Now there's something that would work charms. If it were Gwen's funeral.

[Ken-Kaniff]

I think I want Gwen killed in the second movie, if they decide to kill her. I don't want it stretched until the 3rd.

[Gianakin_]

Yup. Gwen dying in the 2nd is the best option, too, imo. THus, MJ can have a whole 3rd film to get together with Pete.

[Ultimate Doom]

SM1 - Massive alien invasion with attacks over earth -> eddie brock makes first contact with the symbiotes but becomes possessed so spiderman has to stop venom. In the end spiderman and venom team up to stop the alien invasion but venom dies because he sacrifices himself

SM2 - cletus kassidy turns into carnage by being exposed to alien experiments from the 1st film. carnage calls in alien reinforcements for another alien invasion on earth (in the end spiderman has to kill her to save earth)

SM3 - J Jameson is fed up with spider-man and the alien invasions so he makes the rhino suit out of the alien technology left behind and goes on a rampage in NYC

SM4 - Norman osborn harnesses the power of the alien technology after feeling guilty over aunt may and vows to kill spiderman --> spiderman wins the fight

SM5 - Hydroman (fan favorite) also MJ + Gwen die, setting the tone for a darker and meaner spiderman

SM6 - After being put in jail and escaping, Norman then becomes the doctor octopis from the remaining alien technology used by the symbiotes to get even more revenge on spiderman but fails again. at the end spiderman learns "with great responsibility comes great responsibility"



This would be perfect for the new saga because most people are downright sick of the original spider man stories that arent very good in the first place. also the alien attack on earth would make for some good uses of 3D TECHNOLGIE and andrew garfield says he is a fan of science fiction movies when he was a kid

[Duskbyday]

SM1 - Massive alien invasion with attacks over earth -> eddie brock makes first contact with the symbiotes but becomes possessed so spiderman has to stop venom. In the end spiderman and venom team up to stop the alien invasion but venom dies because he sacrifices himself

SM2 - cletus kassidy turns into carnage by being exposed to alien experiments from the 1st film. carnage calls in alien reinforcements for another alien invasion on earth (in the end spiderman has to kill her to save earth)

SM3 - J Jameson is fed up with spider-man and the alien invasions so he makes the rhino suit out of the alien technology left behind and goes on a rampage in NYC

SM4 - Norman osborn harnesses the power of the alien technology after feeling guilty over aunt may and vows to kill spiderman --> spiderman wins the fight

SM5 - Hydroman (fan favorite) also MJ + Gwen die, setting the tone for a darker and meaner spiderman

SM6 - After being put in jail and escaping, Norman then becomes the doctor octopis from the remaining alien technology used by the symbiotes to get even more revenge on spiderman but fails again. at the end spiderman learns "with great responsibility comes great responsibility"



This would be perfect for the new saga because most people are downright sick of the original spider man stories that arent very good in the first place. also the alien attack on earth would make for some good uses of 3D TECHNOLGIE and andrew garfield says he is a fan of science fiction movies when he was a kid

......did you mention aunt may being carnage...and JJ being Rhino...and Norman being Ock! :dry: I have a feeling ur gonna upset some people...btw do u lik the symbiotes out of curiosity :P

It's definitely an original and different take on spiderman, more so than The musical with Swiss Miss. :P But personally I would rather something that doesn't change the Spiderman mythos too drastically. As well I think most people still enjoy most old spiderman stories than OMD & OMIT since they are still good to begin with (tho thts my opinion). Nice try tho :oldrazz:

[Gianakin_]

I think he was joking.

[Duskbyday]

I think he was joking.

I just realised when I saw his other posts, hard 2 knw wats sarcastic and wats not here :P soz Ult Doom

[Ultimate Doom]

i was bored :(

[Duskbyday]

i was bored :(

Sorrrrry :(

[MikeFrost]

i was bored :(

http://www.marekgayer.com/data/mg/images/videos/zx-boxxy-trollin.jpg

[bert19]

How very The Dark Knight of you.

As James Bond once said, "We aim to please." :yay:
- In all seriousness though, Batman Begins did prove that you don't necessarily have to have one of the most notorious characters as the villain in the origins story.

They do need to do the first villain very well though. I'd love to see Kraven done at some point (and i like the idea of Brolin playing him), as he's my favourite bad-guy but i'd quite like to have a strong villain in this one with hints at future villains. E.g. appearances by Norman Osbourne, Doc Connors, reference to Cletus Cassidy etc.



And please, no Venom. So poorly done before it's untrue. I'd rather have Carnage any day.

[LightningFlash]

No MJ needs a film to herself. An idea like that is one of the reasons why SM3 failed. MJ and Peter can't get together right away. We need proper pacing.

And one movie will also be a rush to get Peter and MJ to become a couple, unless the third movie is about three years apart from the second. But, even with that, people will wonder why the very next film Peter is interested in another woman, even with there being "three years apart" or whatever.

[Gianakin_]

And one movie will also be a rush to get Peter and MJ to become a couple, unless the third movie is about three years apart from the second. But, even with that, people will wonder why the very next film Peter is interested in another woman, even with there being "three years apart" or whatever.

I'd rather they get together within one film. We've seen the other version in SM1 and 2. Think that MJ and PP's relationship will be built by movie 3, not entirelly but partially romantically. It can work.

[I'm Venom]

I'd love to see Shocker and Vulture with an appearance by Eddie Brock.

[Spider-Vader]

I really hope they build up Norman & Eddie... instead of "Oh hai, eez me! Oh look ah haz da powerz....EVEEEL! *fight scene* K I's dead...blargh!"

[hopefuldreamer]

I really hope they build up Norman & Eddie... instead of "Oh hai, eez me! Oh look ah haz da powerz....EVEEEL! *fight scene* K I's dead...blargh!"

The more I think about it, the more I wish this was going to be a TV show rather than a movie series. Then you could properly pace the characters.

[Ken-Kaniff]

I really hope they build up Norman & Eddie... instead of "Oh hai, eez me! Oh look ah haz da powerz....EVEEEL! *fight scene* K I's dead...blargh!"
I think Eddie can wait until the second movie (if they are gonna bring Venom later, in the fourth for example or in the third), otherwise, without having Venom, there is really no need for Brock!

[TheSlag]

A pity that they are not letting the first trilogy should cover Gwen's stories and timelines, with MJ making an appearance in the third movie, setting up for her's and Peter's stories and timelines for the next trilogy.

[LightningFlash]

I'd rather they get together within one film. We've seen the other version in SM1 and 2. Think that MJ and PP's relationship will be built by movie 3, not entirelly but partially romantically. It can work.

A build-up wouldn't be cool, though. Gwen Stacy's death wouldn't feel all too grand in the bigger picture when Peter is starting to become interested with another woman, even in the friendship area; ol' Pete will just seem like a douche.

[Nightmare]

I'd love to see Shocker and Vulture with an appearance by Eddie Brock.

I'd love it! :up:

[Gianakin_]

A build-up wouldn't be cool, though. Gwen Stacy's death wouldn't feel all too grand in the bigger picture when Peter is starting to become interested with another woman, even in the friendship area; ol' Pete will just seem like a douche.

I don't agree with that. I can't see how he'll be a douche if he's friends with MJ while being in a relationship with Gwen. It's not like I'm suggesting a triangle, or that they're going to approach it Pearl Harbor style... are they?

[BrollySupersj]

If Shocker ever appeared, Spider-Man, by law, would have to call him "Padded Pete".

[Alex The Great]

I doubt Shocker would wear that...costume, in the movie. Some sort of body armor would be just fine

[BrollySupersj]

I doubt Shocker would wear that...costume, in the movie. Some sort of body armor would be just fine

Then they might as well keep him out of the movie then.

[I'm Venom]

http://www.comicbookbin.com/artman2/uploads/1/shocker.jpg

This version is an update where he's clad more in leather than in spandex, but he looks really good. I always loved Shocker for his design which seemed to exude an aura of villainy.

[DACrowe]

I hate copycats, though.

Have GG in the third film and as the final baddie to round up the trilogy.

I doubt it will happen like that. These are becoming pretty clear cut trilogies that Sony is doing (for financial reasons). And they won't want to end it on a downer this time (like SM3 ended with Peter and MJ in a ****** place after he punched her and Harry dead).

Plus superhero movies are not known (for the most part) for originality or breaking formula. Nolan laid one out that actually follows the comics.

SM1: Villain (no clue who it is, hopefully Lizard) MJ and Gwen.

SM2: GG (big bad in #2) girlfriend dies. Ends in tragedy like best second installments--Empire Strikes Back, TDK, Godfather Part II, even BTTF2 in some ways).

SM3: Another villain (no idea who, probably will end up being Venom) Peter gets with MJ.

It actually makes a lot of sense and it flows together well. The first trilogy struggled to find a story for the third film beyond Peter and Harry's relationship ending and reconciling in death. Everything else was grasping at different ideas to conclude a 3-film saga as Peter had embraced being Spidey and got the girl at the end of SM2.

It makes sense and is actually quite faithful to the comics. Plus it is similar to what has usurped Raimi's movies as the definitive superhero trilogy (that loosely resembled the early Superman films), which I'm sure Sony is aware of.

[Mace Bloodstone]

Alright, the Superman movie has their bad guy picked out already before they even know who's playing Superman.. It's Time for Spidey to get back on top of the news..!!

[NinjaCarm]

Alright, the Superman movie has their bad guy picked out already before they even know who's playing Superman.. It's Time for Spidey to get back on top of the news..!!

Nicely put.

And what a lame villain they have chosen for Superman, if true. General Zod? C'mon already with the same villains no one cares about.

Give us some Doomsday or Darkseid and incorporate a little Lex Luthor as setup, but my goodness, Zod?

[Gamma Goliath]

Brainiac needs to be the villain in supes.
I really want a josh brolin/kraven and Hugh laurey/lizard for this though.

[Gamma Goliath]

Brainiac needs to be the villain in supes not darkseid or zod.
I really want a josh brolin/kraven and Hugh laurey/lizard for this though.

[Alex The Great]

I doubt it will happen like that. These are becoming pretty clear cut trilogies that Sony is doing (for financial reasons). And they won't want to end it on a downer this time (like SM3 ended with Peter and MJ in a ****** place after he punched her and Harry dead).

Plus superhero movies are not known (for the most part) for originality or breaking formula. Nolan laid one out that actually follows the comics.

SM1: Villain (no clue who it is, hopefully Lizard) MJ and Gwen.

SM2: GG (big bad in #2) girlfriend dies. Ends in tragedy like best second installments--Empire Strikes Back, TDK, Godfather Part II, even BTTF2 in some ways).

SM3: Another villain (no idea who, probably will end up being Venom) Peter gets with MJ.

It actually makes a lot of sense and it flows together well. The first trilogy struggled to find a story for the third film beyond Peter and Harry's relationship ending and reconciling in death. Everything else was grasping at different ideas to conclude a 3-film saga as Peter had embraced being Spidey and got the girl at the end of SM2.

It makes sense and is actually quite faithful to the comics. Plus it is similar to what has usurped Raimi's movies as the definitive superhero trilogy (that loosely resembled the early Superman films), which I'm sure Sony is aware of.

Nice! I don't really want Venom though. Maybe in the fourth. I dunno

[BrollySupersj]

I myself wouldn't mind Venom again, seeing as his debut appearance was sub par.

[Oscorp]

I doubt Shocker would wear that...costume, in the movie. Some sort of body armor would be just fine

Why not? I can easily picture his suit in a movie. It could look almost exactly like the 616 costume without looking the sligthest bit goofy.

[Ken-Kaniff]

http://oi54.tinypic.com/9ad44l.jpg

^^ I would like Shocker to have a similar costume to his classic costume, something like this!

[Oscorp]

Indeed. Just show his eyes however. Something along the likes of my profile picture would be perfect imo. Wouldn't need any changes at all almost. This: http://spectacularspidey.blog.bg/photos/78886/original/Folder(1).jpg

Or this:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6535/859947-shocker_super.jpg

Would be perfect and bad-ass. Tbh, I actually think Shocker's 616 design is one of the best villain designs of Spidey and almost any Marvel villain. So yeah, I think it would fit perfectly in a movie.

[Alex The Great]

I want Shocker like you guys, but that suit would look awful on screen. Some sort of body armor will look

[Oscorp]

I just don't see why it in ANY way would look any worse than the Spidey costume?

[Alex The Great]

Yellows and Purples(?). Those colors don't work.

[Oscorp]

That's not really purple. But anyway, I guess we just have to agree to disagree then.

[Alex The Great]

Fair enough

[JAK®]

Yellows and Purples(?). Those colors don't work.
It's brown. And it's extremely silly to say that a colour just wouldn't work. There are shades, materials and textures that can affect how a colour is perceived in a million different ways.

[Oscorp]

^Agreed. And that costume is a very big part of the character imo.

[Ken-Kaniff]

I would say that color is actually burgundy or dark red, on Shocker's suit I mean, but definetly not purple. Anyway, I don't see why it wouldn't work, I think it would work just fine, it's not a fashion presentation anyway!:cwink:

[Kevin Roegele]

Come on, Shocker just isn't big screen material. Maybe as a henchman, but he's not ambitious or clever enough, he's no Goblin or Kingpin or Doc Ock.

[Alex The Great]

Come on, Shocker just isn't big screen material. Maybe as a henchman, but he's not ambitious or clever enough, he's no Goblin or Kingpin or Doc Ock.
He could be Chameleons Body Guard :word:

[Ken-Kaniff]

Come on, Shocker just isn't big screen material. Maybe as a henchman, but he's not ambitious or clever enough, he's no Goblin or Kingpin or Doc Ock.
Of course not, but he can work as a second villain.

[WebHead3142]

I wouldn't mind seeing Scorpion.

[WebHead3142]

I wouldn't mind seeing Scorpion.

[the_ultimate_evil]

i just want to see norman controlling things behind the scenes until the second film, where he throws blondie off the bridge :D

[LegendaryCaleb]

I kinda wanna see Shocker as the first villain in the movie...a petty criminal with goons trying to rob a bank...and we get 15 minutes of Spideys first battle for a bank and against a tough foe...
Itd be awesome :awesome:

[Ken-Kaniff]

I kinda wanna see Shocker as the first villain in the movie...a petty criminal with goons trying to rob a bank...and we get 15 minutes of Spideys first battle for a bank and against a tough foe...
Itd be awesome :awesome:
You know it Mr.!;)

[©KAW]

No more bank robberies, please.

[©KAW]

No more bank robberies, please.

[MikeFrost]

I would pick Scorpion if this wasn't the first movie of a new series. It's a bit too quick to see Spidey start over with new actors and we instantly see a totally different JJJ that hates Spidey so much that he wants him dead. Coming from the character in Raimi's triology that's a huge change to have in just one movie IMO. If we want Scorpion, we need to let them develop JJJ properly first.

Come to think of it, most of the bigger villains have lots of strings attached to them so they all need some proper time to develop. Safest route is for the first movie to be an Iron Man 1 type of thing, with more character development and an easier villain to explain like Electro, Shocker, Rhino, etc.

I'd kill for a movie that features Kingpin, Hammerhead and then Electro as the main baddie.



Movie begins with Spidey trying to take care of Kingpin's empire (a short brawl with Hammerhead would be sweet)
Max gets his freak accident about halfway in the movie and Kingpin hires him.
Final fight - Spidey vs Electro.
LOTS of other character development and foreshadowing in the movie to set up for sequels.
Movie introduces Norman, Harry, Gwen, Eddie Brock, JJJ, Curt Conners and perhaps even Otto.

[Gamma Goliath]

We could pretty much forget about kingpin.

[MikeFrost]

douple post sorry

[MikeFrost]

Use the Big Man or Silvermane then.

[GoldGoblin]

SM1: (Shocker)

-Herman Schultz is a mob boss who is tired of spidey getting in the way of his business.So Herman Schultz arms himself with stolen technology to become The Shocker.

The Shocker knows the way to find spidey,commit a crime.So The Shocker trips an alarm in a museum.Shocker gets defeated and is thrown in prison,spidey has now defeated the mob.

-In the museum,a meteor rock in a glass display case gets smashed in the fight and black slime oozes out of it.

[MikeFrost]

I get the impression more and more that we're being trolled by GoldGoblin :facepalm:

[Ken-Kaniff]

He has nothing better to do....:o

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

SM1: (Shocker)

-Herman Schultz is a mob boss

You lost me right there, and the rest of the post didn't help.

[#1Batmanfan]

Shocker!!!

[GoldGoblin]

SM1: (Lizard)

-Richard Parker and Brock sr. shown working on a suit hoping it can cure cancer,but finds out that the suit is more like a weapon and is dangerious to the wearer.

-Richard Parker,his wife,Brock sr. and his wife are killed in a plane crash as the pilot (Cletus Kasady) shoots them with a gun,takes the case with the suit in it,and parachutes to safety as the plane crashes.

-In a safety deposit box,Brock sr. has left a small sample of the suit.

-Eddie Brock tells Peter about it and the two of them study the sample with Dr.Connors.

-Dr.Connors takes a sample of the sample and uses it for his lizard experiment.

-Dr.Connors is desperate to keep his funding,if he doesn't have results soon,then the funding will be taken away.

-Dr.Connors becomes The Lizard.

-A mob boss (The Chameleon) is seen doing a business deal with Cletus Kasady.The Chameleon is about to buy the suit that Cletus stole,until spidey shows up and ruins everything.

-Cletus Kasady hides the case with the suit in it when he sees spidey.

-Cletus Kasady and The Chameleon is webbed up and sent to prison.

-In prison Cletus finds out what the suit is when his cellmate,The Chameleon tells him what it is.

-The Chameleon pledges that when he gets out of prison,that he will make spider-man pay.

[Alex The Great]

Stop posting kid, you might hurt yourself.

[I'm Venom]

Come on, Shocker just isn't big screen material. Maybe as a henchman, but he's not ambitious or clever enough, he's no Goblin or Kingpin or Doc Ock.

Shocker is supposed to be intelligent and seems to be a favorite among fans. He’s probably not as well known as someone like Green Goblin, but he kind of reminds me of Peter Parker.

Parker had the potential to be one of the world’s most prolific scientists before he became Spider-Man. Herman Schultz is quite similar. He had the potential to be one of the greatest engineers of his time before he became a criminal. He’s not crazy, he doesn’t have a complex, he isn’t a psychopath, he doesn’t want to take over the world, he doesn’t want to kill Spider-Man, he’s not out for thrills. I prefer Shocker for who he is: a criminal who has the intelligence to create his own weapons.

I’d love to see a partnership with Vulture.

[newlownorder]

I would really like to see either Lizard or Vulture or both in the 1st movie. No GG in the first movie, introduce Harry and Norman but don't have either of them be villains in first movie.

[©KAW]

The Lizard is going to be the villain. It's already official. Just look over there.-->

[Matt Mortem]

SM1: (Lizard)

-Richard Parker and Brock sr. shown working on a suit hoping it can cure cancer,but finds out that the suit is more like a weapon and is dangerious to the wearer.

-Richard Parker,his wife,Brock sr. and his wife are killed in a plane crash as the pilot (Cletus Kasady) shoots them with a gun,takes the case with the suit in it,and parachutes to safety as the plane crashes.

-In a safety deposit box,Brock sr. has left a small sample of the suit.

-Eddie Brock tells Peter about it and the two of them study the sample with Dr.Connors.

-Dr.Connors takes a sample of the sample and uses it for his lizard experiment.

-Dr.Connors is desperate to keep his funding,if he doesn't have results soon,then the funding will be taken away.

-Dr.Connors becomes The Lizard.

-A mob boss (The Chameleon) is seen doing a business deal with Cletus Kasady.The Chameleon is about to buy the suit that Cletus stole,until spidey shows up and ruins everything.

-Cletus Kasady hides the case with the suit in it when he sees spidey.

-Cletus Kasady and The Chameleon is webbed up and sent to prison.

-In prison Cletus finds out what the suit is when his cellmate,The Chameleon tells him what it is.

-The Chameleon pledges that when he gets out of prison,that he will make spider-man pay.

really? :dry:

[Alex The Great]

The Lizard is going to be the villain. It's already official. Just look over there.-->
:huh::huh::huh:

[Nightmare]

Lizard would be pretty cool.

[MessiahDecoy123]

Lizard and Kraven

There's a great story there waiting to be used.

[FVD]

I've always wondered what the differences were between Electro and Shocker, but as long as they aren't a team in the same movie...

Hell I'm starting to think it be cool if Lizard were revealed at the end of the first movie, then he could carry on into the next film with Kraven hunting him down. Electro (and perhaps Doc Ock) in the first movie.

*Yeah I've changed my ideas around a little (again). Maybe George Stacy could die in the first movie with Gwen dealing with his death in Movie 2.* :p

[DACrowe]

The trick is you only have three movies so you don't want to use many B-listers.

On top of that villains like Shocker and Electro have been done visually before on screen and you want a villain the audience has never seen before...or they want to see again but better (like GG).

That is why I like Lizard. Kraven/Lizard would be ideal, but that is probably too much for a first film which has to set up the story dynamics. A simple villain. A Doc Ock if we hadn't already used Doc Ock.

Oh well.

[MikeFrost]

When were any of those villains done visually on screen?

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Seems like 'mob boss' is to Gold Goblin as 'raised webbing/sinister eyes' is to Alex. :p

Anyway, here's my two cents about the various villain discussions going on here:

First and foremost, I want to get this off my chest: it's okay for a villain to have kind of a goofy costume, and there are ways to make the comic versions work on screen. I mean, one of Spidey's biggest trademarks is slinging insults at his foes, and a lot of those insults come from making fun of their fashion choices. If every villain gets the same run-of-the-mill Hollywood Bad-Ass Makeover, it'd be kind of hard for the webslinger to poke fun. Also, in a lot of cases, their look says a lot about the character: Shocker's padded suit helps protect him from the effects of his own gauntlets, Green Goblin's whimsical-yet-deranged appearance shows how off the deep end he is, and how delighted and amused he is by his own villainy. He's like Spidey's version of the Joker.

Now that that's out of the way, on to my next point: Please, please... no Ultimate anything. The comics aren't bad or anything, but if any version of Spidey, his rogues, and his world are going to make it to the big screen, I want it to be the original one. I'm not saying I'd boycott the movie if it had Ultimate influences, but I'd much prefer we not see Pete and Eddie as best buds, mutant Goblin, trenchcoat Shocker, bad-girl Gwen, etc.

Oh, and nobody should be randomly re-imagined as a mob boss, either. There are plenty of actual characters that could fill that quota.

[MikeFrost]

Thing is that, while costume insults work in the comics because people ARE USED to that kind of ridiculous suits from villains, in a movie, while it's funny, it also takes away from a villain's credibility if he's using tight spandex and a yellow and green theme.

I agree with the functionality aspect of it tho or if the costume is an integral part of that villain like Goblin's mask or Ock's glasses. In cases like Shocker or Electro, them having a suit to help them contain their powers makes sense to me. However, it has to keep a sleek look and actually make sense in terms of materials (for example, Electro's suit would have to be rubber or some other non-conductor material).

[Havok83]

Hell no to Goblin and Doc Oc. Been there, done that. Id want a new villian. I REALLY want to see Kraven as he'd make for a good film but I dont think he'd be appropriate for a first film. Definetly a sequel

[Gianakin_]

Lizard and Kraven would be awesome. The hunter, the spider, the reptile. 3 way battles ftw!

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Thing is that, while costume insults work in the comics because people ARE USED to that kind of ridiculous suits from villains, in a movie, while it's funny, it also takes away from a villain's credibility if he's using tight spandex and a yellow and green theme.

Yeah, but the thing is that people are used to changed costumes because it's been compromised in the past. If you establish the costumes as making sense within the context of this series, it won't seem as goofy and out of place. Besides, I'm not totally against any and all changes, I just don't want everything being radically changed to the point where the character is virtually unrecognizable just because their costume was "cheesy." Comics are cheesy, folks, and the people in the theatre are showing up to see a comic book movie. A little cheese, if properly applied, is going to keep the hardcore fanboys happy without alienating the casual viewers.

[Sentinel X]

SM1: (Lizard)

-Richard Parker and Brock sr. shown working on a suit hoping it can cure cancer,but finds out that the suit is more like a weapon and is dangerious to the wearer.

-Richard Parker,his wife,Brock sr. and his wife are killed in a plane crash as the pilot (Cletus Kasady) shoots them with a gun,takes the case with the suit in it,and parachutes to safety as the plane crashes.

-In a safety deposit box,Brock sr. has left a small sample of the suit.

-Eddie Brock tells Peter about it and the two of them study the sample with Dr.Connors.

-Dr.Connors takes a sample of the sample and uses it for his lizard experiment.

-Dr.Connors is desperate to keep his funding,if he doesn't have results soon,then the funding will be taken away.

-Dr.Connors becomes The Lizard.

-A mob boss (The Chameleon) is seen doing a business deal with Cletus Kasady.The Chameleon is about to buy the suit that Cletus stole,until spidey shows up and ruins everything.

-Cletus Kasady hides the case with the suit in it when he sees spidey.

-Cletus Kasady and The Chameleon is webbed up and sent to prison.

-In prison Cletus finds out what the suit is when his cellmate,The Chameleon tells him what it is.

-The Chameleon pledges that when he gets out of prison,that he will make spider-man pay. I really really like that idea, I wanted to expand the story a bit because it can be the most epic saga ever:

- Uncle Ben tries to get revenge and murder the Cletus Kasady for killing his brother

- We find out that Cletus Kasady was really Aunt May this whole time because she was using Chameleon's "impersonation" technology.

-Uncle Ben finds out Cletus Kasady's true identity...Aunt May! They ensue in an epic battle and aunt may kills uncle ben.

- Aunt May drives Uncle Ben's body to manhattan and frames a robber to make it look like the robber killed uncle ben and not aunt may.

-When Aunt May is sprinting back to queens, trying to escape the crime scene, she falls into an open manhole and hits her head. This causes Aunt May's split personality to temporarily go away and she does not recall being Cletus Kasady or the killer of her own HUSBAND!!

- Aunt May's split personality slowly starts to resurface through the sequels and Peter finds out what really happens and he must stop Aunt May before it is too late!!

- Aunt May finally decides to wash the clothes she had when she fell into the sewer years ago and finds some black goo on it. The black goo covers her entire body and she becomes AUNT CARNAGE!

[Alex The Great]

I really really like that idea, I wanted to expand the story a bit because it can be the most epic saga ever:

- Uncle Ben tries to get revenge and murder the Cletus Kasady for killing his brother

- We find out that Cletus Kasady was really Aunt May this whole time because she was using Chameleon's "impersonation" technology.

-Uncle Ben finds out Cletus Kasady's true identity...Aunt May! They ensue in an epic battle and aunt may kills uncle ben.

- Aunt May drives Uncle Ben's body to manhattan and frames a robber to make it look like the robber killed uncle ben and not aunt may.

-When Aunt May is sprinting back to queens, trying to escape the crime scene, she falls into an open manhole and hits her head. This causes Aunt May's split personality to temporarily go away and she does not recall being Cletus Kasady or the killer of her own HUSBAND!!

- Aunt May's split personality slowly starts to resurface through the sequels and Peter finds out what really happens and he must stop Aunt May before it is too late!!
:csad::csad::csad:

[Gianakin_]

I really really like that idea, I wanted to expand the story a bit because it can be the most epic saga ever:

I'd pay to see that. I'm serious.

[I'm Venom]

Shocker is supposed to be intelligent and seems to be a favorite among fans. He’s probably not as well known as someone like Green Goblin, but he kind of reminds me of Peter Parker.

Parker had the potential to be one of the world’s most prolific scientists before he became Spider-Man. Herman Schultz is quite similar. He had the potential to be one of the greatest engineers of his time before he became a criminal. He’s not crazy, he doesn’t have a complex, he isn’t a psychopath, he doesn’t want to take over the world, he doesn’t want to kill Spider-Man, he’s not out for thrills. I prefer Shocker for who he is: a criminal who has the intelligence to create his own weapons.

I’d love to see a partnership with Vulture.

Shocker has also beaten Spider-Man on more than one occasion.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

I'd love to see Shocker, he's always been one of my favourites.

[GoldGoblin]

If this movie is gonna be another trilogy,either there gonna cram everything in or leave too much out.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

I'd rather they leave things out than cram too much in. Spider-Man 3 showed us what happens when you try to cram too much in. Besides, who says we can only have 3 movies?

[Spider-Vader]

Who says it's going to be a trilogy? It could easily have 6 movies.

[MikeFrost]

Don't you know? After the third movie they'll reboot the series again!

[GoldGoblin]

If they do that then do you have Green Goblin,Doc Ock,and Venom in the movie.Do you put another villain in the movie so we get them plus someone new.Or do you leave them out completely.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Goblin needs to be redone, but shouldn't until at least the second movie of this series, if not the third. I could do without another Doc Ock, he was done fairly well before. I'd be okay if they stayed away from the whole symbiote thing for this series, since it's been done so many times, but as long as it was done well and given proper time and attention, I would still go see a movie with Venom. That said, I'd prefer a villain that hasn't been done yet, for sure.

[Havok83]

Who says it's going to be a trilogy? It could easily have 6 movies.
yeah it could but I think its more realistic to think it will be at least 3 movies.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Trilogies are kind of "the thing" these days, but if these movies do as well as the previous ones, and without screwing the pooch on the third, there's no reason they wouldn't keep going. After all, there was going to be a SM4 before the reboot was decided on.

[Matt Mortem]

As far as repeating villains goes, I could care less. As long as the story is told well and the movie is good, the "repeated" villain won't really bother me. I just want a good Spidey movie

[GoldGoblin]

As far as repeating villains goes, I could care less. As long as the story is told well and the movie is good, the "repeated" villain won't really bother me. I just want a good Spidey movie

^
people complained when they thought we were getting green goblin in sm3.

[Matt Mortem]

Which is understandable as he was already in that franchise. This is the beginning of a whole new franchise, with a whole new take. It's a whole new Spidey

[Golgo-13]

Lizard and Kraven would be awesome. The hunter, the spider, the reptile. 3 way battles ftw!

I like that, although i would love to see GG re-done...and not look like a power ranger this time.

[Alex The Great]

Also, GG kill Gwen. They can kill GG after that and be done with the Goblin saga, but I want Gwen too die :cmad:

[BrollySupersj]

^
people complained when they thought we were getting green goblin in sm3.


I didn't, I complained at the ridiculousness of the outfit. Looked more like something a Green Goblin gang would wear, rather than the Green Goblin himself.

[Galactus123]

Indeed. Just show his eyes however. Something along the likes of my profile picture would be perfect imo. Wouldn't need any changes at all almost. This: http://spectacularspidey.blog.bg/photos/78886/original/Folder%281%29.jpg

Or this:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6535/859947-shocker_super.jpg

Would be perfect and bad-ass. Tbh, I actually think Shocker's 616 design is one of the best villain designs of Spidey and almost any Marvel villain. So yeah, I think it would fit perfectly in a movie.
It wouldn't work. Costume wouldn't make sense then. His costume is padded because he uses very dangeours weapons. Eyes should be covered because of that.
They should also add somekind of black/yellow leather jacket to that costume maybe. It would be more realistic.

[BrollySupersj]

How could any movie producer not use that outfit? It's perfect.

If they ever go with the Ultimate Spider-Man Shocker, I'll RAAAAAAGE.

[Immortalfire]

I've wanted Shocker to be seen since day 1 of the Raimi films began.

[Havok83]

Can Shocker carry a movie on his own or would he need another villian added to the mix?

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

If written well, Shocker could easily be a main villain. He's a deep and original character, his tech presents a legitimate threat, can be used in a variety of ways, and could make for some great special effects and action scenes.

[The Joker]

Can Shocker carry a movie on his own or would he need another villian added to the mix?

Is this a serious question? Shocker couldn't carry a movie on his own in a million years. He's a fluff villain. All action, no substance.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

You have never read a comic with Shocker in it, have you? We're not talking about the '90's animated series here...

[The Joker]

You have never read a comic with Shocker in it, have you?

:whatever:

I've read dozens of Shocker comics. He is not leading villain material. No way.

We're not talking about the '90's animated series here...

*GASP* Neither am I.

I wouldn't use a show that makes Electro a Russian general and Red Skull's son, Doc Ock as Kingpin's lackey, the Hobgoblin coming before the Green Goblin and so many more missteps as a basis for an opinion on a character.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Well, that's a relief at least, but I still don't agree that Shocker has no substance. He's one of my favourite Spidey villains.

[Gianakin_]

Well, that's a relief at least, but I still don't agree that Shocker has no substance. He's one of my favourite Spidey villains.

And Doomsday is one of my favorite Supes ones, but that doesn't mean he's got substance.

Shocker would work very well as a throwaway guy, working for someone else. He's pretty cool, but you can't have him as a villain in the kickstart of the new franchise.

[The Joker]

I'm not saying he's a bad villain. I'm saying he's just not leading villain material.

Herman Schultz was a career criminal who, after several prison terms for robbery, built a battle suit that sent out shock waves to quickly open safes as well as give himself a one-up on the authorities. He's just another thug with powers. His powers are almost Electro lite type powers.

How could anyone think he could be a leading solo villain in a 2 hour movie?

[Alex The Great]

I still maintain that Shocker can be Chameleons body guard :up:

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

I'm not just saying he has substance because he's one of my favourites, he actually does. He's one of the only supervillains that doesn't hold a grudge and let it overshadow his goals, and in fact, isn't out to hurt anybody, he actually uses his brain to win, he has a personality that actually isn't the typical holier-than-thou villain complex. He's very unique in comics, and with the right writer, he could translate to film very easily.

I never said I'd kickstart the reboot with him, though. I think the fact that he's not out to get Spider-Man would contrast better if we'd already seen a villain or two get obsessed with taking him out, hence, not the first movie. I also never said he should be the sole villain, or carry the entire movie by himself, I just said that he could easily be written as a main villain.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Oh, and Shocker's powers are nothing like Electro's.

[Oscorp]

Shocker is supposed to be intelligent and seems to be a favorite among fans. He’s probably not as well known as someone like Green Goblin, but he kind of reminds me of Peter Parker.

Parker had the potential to be one of the world’s most prolific scientists before he became Spider-Man. Herman Schultz is quite similar. He had the potential to be one of the greatest engineers of his time before he became a criminal. He’s not crazy, he doesn’t have a complex, he isn’t a psychopath, he doesn’t want to take over the world, he doesn’t want to kill Spider-Man, he’s not out for thrills. I prefer Shocker for who he is: a criminal who has the intelligence to create his own weapons.

I’d love to see a partnership with Vulture.

Great post, summed it up pretty well!

Shocker is actually one of the most...well, "sane" villains. With that, I mean that he actually REALISES when Spidey has the upper hand, and tries to solve that in the way that makes most sense. For example, he's not stupidly drastic, he flees the field when he should flee. Where some other psycho villain would fight to his own downfall.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Great post, summed it up pretty well!

Shocker is actually one of the most...well, "sane" villains. With that, I mean that he actually REALISES when Spidey has the upper hand, and tries to solve that in the way that makes most sense. For example, he's not stupidly drastic, he flees the field when he should flee. Where some other psycho villain would fight to his own downfall.

Well said. One of my favourite Shocker moments involved him getting his ass kicked by Spider-Man. Shocker realised he wouldn't win a straight-up slugfest, so he blasted a security guard out the window of the high-rise they were fighting in. Spidey saves the guard, Shocker's long gone when he gets back.

[Oscorp]

I'm not just saying he has substance because he's one of my favourites, he actually does. He's one of the only supervillains that doesn't hold a grudge and let it overshadow his goals, and in fact, isn't out to hurt anybody, he actually uses his brain to win, he has a personality that actually isn't the typical holier-than-thou villain complex. He's very unique in comics, and with the right writer, he could translate to film very easily.

I never said I'd kickstart the reboot with him, though. I think the fact that he's not out to get Spider-Man would contrast better if we'd already seen a villain or two get obsessed with taking him out, hence, not the first movie. I also never said he should be the sole villain, or carry the entire movie by himself, I just said that he could easily be written as a main villain.

Oh, and Shocker's powers are nothing like Electro's.

You said this much better than I could have explained it :up: another great post!

And btw, I think Shocker is actually one of the most popular villains except for Green Goblin, Doc Ock and Venom (maybe Lizard also). He's one of those that is extremely popular, but people still don't really know how popular he is somehow. Didn't he end up as the #2 or #3 most popular Spider-Man villain somewhere?

[Oscorp]

I also really like when Shocker is the leader of the pack if you know what I mean. Not a mob boss or anything like that, but when he has lots of goons/thugs around him that he commands. Shocker has good leadership and is a good tactical.

[The Joker]

I'm not just saying he has substance because he's one of my favourites, he actually does. He's one of the only supervillains that doesn't hold a grudge and let it overshadow his goals, and in fact, isn't out to hurt anybody, he actually uses his brain to win, he has a personality that actually isn't the typical holier-than-thou villain complex. He's very unique in comics, and with the right writer, he could translate to film very easily.

Most of Spidey's rogues gallery fall under that category. Most of them want nothing to do with Spidey, and generally avoid him as much as possible. In fact only Green Goblin, Ock, and Venom generally go out of their way to find and destroy Spider-Man. And Ock usually does that when he perceives Spider-Man to be a threat to his plans.

Also please explain how Shocker is a deep villain?

I also never said he should be the sole villain, or carry the entire movie by himself, I just said that he could easily be written as a main villain.

I don't see how. A main villain drives the story. Shocker's not that kind of villain. The Vulture or Electro could drive a story better than Shocker.

Oh, and Shocker's powers are nothing like Electro's.

He shoots energy blasts. The only difference is Electro's is electric, and he is way more powerful.

One of my favourite Shocker moments involved him getting his ass kicked by Spider-Man. Shocker realised he wouldn't win a straight-up slugfest, so he blasted a security guard out the window of the high-rise they were fighting in. Spidey saves the guard, Shocker's long gone when he gets back.

Again, that's another standard villain tactic. Ock, Goblin, Electro, Mysterio, Vulture.....they've all employed that tactic of putting a civilian or civilians in danger in order to escape or get the upper hand in a fight.

Didn't he end up as the #2 or #3 most popular Spider-Man villain somewhere?

I would love to see that list, if it exists.

[GoldGoblin]

Look at Shocker in The Spectacular Spider-Man,he looks cool and he is a bada##.Yeah he could easily be a main bad guy.

[The Joker]

Look at Shocker in The Spectacular Spider-Man,he looks cool and he is a bada##.Yeah he could easily be a main bad guy.

Shocker in SSM worked for the Big Man, then Doc Ock in the Sinister Six, and was one of the Enforcers, not Herman Schultz :hehe:

Seems the cartoon shows have a habit of steering away from how Shocker is portrayed in the comics.

[Oscorp]

I hope you don't mind my point of view on your quotes to PB

Most of Spidey's rogues gallery fall under that category. Most of them want nothing to do with Spidey, and generally avoid him as much as possible. In fact only Green Goblin, Ock, and Venom generally go out of their way to find and destroy Spider-Man. And Ock usually does that when he perceives Spider-Man to be a threat to his plans.

Also please explain how Shocker is a deep villain?

True point.

Shocker is not in particular "deeper" than many other villains. It's just that his whole characterism is cool and more interesting than some others imo.

I don't see how. A main villain drives the story. Shocker's not that kind of villain. The Vulture or Electro could drive a story better than Shocker.

I agree that he shouldn't be the main villain. What I personally really want is for him to work for the mob or for some other bigger boss. That's where Shocker truly shines imo. Commanding other goons and doing the dirty job for someone else. Whereas someone like Vulture is more like the mastermind kinda villain (and Electro is the more storydriving villain due to his huge powers). But I think there needs to be a mix sometimes. While the masterplanners are most often the greatest villains, the more thugish kinds could be just as fun. And I think Shocker is one of those villains that would add alot to a movie as a secondary villain. As I've said, kinda like Scarecrow in BB (oh yes the Batman comparisions are annoying but I'm saying just for explaining how I see it)

He shoots energy blasts. The only difference is Electro's is electric, and he is way more powerful.

As I said, it's more the difference of the character that is what seperates them the most imo. And tbh, I've never really seen the similarities.

Again, that's another standard villain tactic. Ock, Goblin, Electro, Mysterio, Vulture.....they've all employed that tactic of putting a civilian or civilians in danger in order to escape or get the upper hand in a fight.

Also true. But it's something that's more related to Shocker as characteristism than many other villains. The fact that he's more down-to-earth than most of Spidey's other villains.

I would love to see that list, if it exists.

And I would love to see it again too because I always like such lists. I don't remember where I read it so I can unfortunately only give you my word. It was from Marvel itself where the readers had voted some year but I read it somewhere else. Shocker was #3 I think. Not below that. And it wasn't a vote of the BEST villain, but the most popular ones. And it's totally plausible I think because alot of people mention that they find him as one of the favourites. But I'm also pretty sure that the list was from some time between 2005-2007 so it's kinda outdated anyway.

Sorry for my English but I'm pretty drowzy right now

[I'm Venom]

Green Goblin has insanity to deal with, and Kraven is about the hunt, but most of Spider-Man’s villains are just crooks with powers and more concerned with knocking over the next bank.

[itsleroy]

Mysterio. That would be so badass. Would be cool if they had a second villain as well, but sort of a side-kick type. Perhaps Chameleon or Shocker or something.

[Ken-Kaniff]

When I said I want Shocker, I did not meant I want him as a main villain. I would preffer someone else as a main villain, such as Lizard, Scorpion or hell, even Kraven! Someone who can actually offer us a far more interesting storyline, aswell as great combat with Spidey! And Shocker, Vulture or the Chameleon for example are no main villain material, heck I would never even want to see Vulture. As for Chameleon, I think I will pass aswell (Maybe I'd like him, together with Kraven, Kraven being the main villain of course). We need to see great action scenes between Spider-Man and his foes, we need challenging villains and those are the Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Venom, Lizard and even Scorpion & Kraven!

Shocker would only work as a secondary villain and I'd like to see him in SM movie.

And I would love to see it again too because I always like such lists. I don't remember where I read it so I can unfortunately only give you my word. It was from Marvel itself where the readers had voted some year but I read it somewhere else. Shocker was #3 I think. Not below that. And it wasn't a vote of the BEST villain, but the most popular ones. And it's totally plausible I think because alot of people mention that they find him as one of the favourites. But I'm also pretty sure that the list was from some time between 2005-2007 so it's kinda outdated anyway.
Even so, I am very surprised to read this. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying I don't believe you, it's just that I never imagined Shocker as one of the most popular Spider-Man Villains, so it's quite interesting. I always thought of him as a decent villain and a pretty cool one actually, even if for some, he may not be so interesting, but I never pictured him among the most popular nor the most loved villains in the SM Universe!;)

Sorry for my English but I'm pretty drowzy right nowI forgive you!:p

[itsleroy]

Shocker is awesome, doesn't get enough love. Maybe introduce the Enforcers or something.

[Ken-Kaniff]

Maybe introduce the Enforcers or something.
LOL I'd never wanna see them in a SM Movie...:whatever:

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

I'm pretty sure having Spidey face off against a guy named "Fancy Dan" would have a lot of casual moviegoers laughing their way out of the theatre...

...then again, we did get Happy Hogan in IM2...

[BrollySupersj]

I've wanted Shocker to be seen since day 1 of the Raimi films began.

Finally, someone who sees the light.:hrt:

[Alex The Great]

LOL I'd never wanna see them in a SM Movie...:whatever:
Eh, they can make a cameo. Spider-Man fights them once,he kicks there ass. And we never see them again. It'd just be a nice nod too the comics and the die hard fans.

[GoldGoblin]

In the beginning of the movie you could see the police trying to take down the Shocker,but have a hard time stopping him.Then spidey shows up and the two battle ending where Shocker is defeated and is thrown in prison.

A scene of Norman Osborn watching the news getting angry wandering who stole his tech from Oscorp and gave it to this thug.

[I'm Venom]

Shocker has proven to be a threat and tries to avoid Spider-Man at all costs, although Spider-Man usually gets involved in his business, and they get physical.

I actually consider him to be one of the best dressed of Spider-Man’s rogues. Love the design. The cartoon was what made me a fan.

[spideyboy_1111]

i'm sorry.. but to any of you who honestly think shocker can be the main villain of any movie.. you're all on something and clearly have never read much of the character. He rarely even gets more then a 2 issue arch... and is considered a 3rd or 4th tier villain... he's just more popular because his main enemy is spider-man. He's right up there with Diamond Back, Hydro-Man, The Beetle, and trantula in the marvel rogue gallery. He's nothing more then a thug and a mercenary with little to no other background

[Alex The Great]

Ah fanboys, saying we're "on something" because our ideas are "bad"

Shocker doesn't have to be the Main Villain. Just a secondary/cameo villain

[Matt Mortem]

Yes at the most I would want him as a cameo villain that Spider-Man busts as one of his nights out crime-fighting. Thats the best way to include him IMO.

[Gamma Goliath]

Id like to see him secondary to goblin in a second flick. But not carrying a movie on his own.

[Matt Mortem]

Theres no way in hell he could ever carry a movie on his own. It's insane to think that

[Gamma Goliath]

Exactly.

[Matt Mortem]

The only villains I can think of that could carry a whole movie that haven't been used before are Lizard, Kraven and Mysterio. Lizard and Kraven could work well together, but it'd be crazy to use 2 villains in the first movie. Mysterio could be kind of a weak villain if he isn't used right. I never really like Mysterio though

[co2]

It should be a trilogy revolving around Will O' the Wisp!!

Seriously though. Even if GG isn't in the movie, if they have Gwen, they are setting up for that classic moment we all know. We will see Goblin again at some point, guaranteed. But I say for the first one, just introduce Norman.
I really am anxious to see Lizard since we were denied him from Raimi's movies. But I want to save Lizard for a Kraven story, so I'm conflicted.
There really aren't a lot of other villains I care for that haven't been done already.

[I'm Venom]

Shocker could look cool and is easy to outdo for sequels. They can get away with him for a first villain and use Green Goblin for the second.

[DACrowe]

Honestly, Lizard is the only remaining unused villain who could carry a movie. And I would like to see him. If they don't use Lizzy, then they should have several smaller villains working together. But I don't know how you make that dramatically interesting.

We shall see.

[Alex The Great]

Electro. I love that guy. He has the power too take on Superman, but he's an idiot who takes thing too personally. Which is why Spider-Man can beat him

[Young Superman]

Electro. I love that guy. He has the power too take on Superman, but he's an idiot who takes thing too personally. Which is why Spider-Man can beat him

Agreed, Electro's great.

[BrollySupersj]

Concerning NONE super powered baddies, I'd love to see The King Pin.

Especially if he's played by David Morse (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001556/)

[Alex The Great]

Can't, Fox has the rights to Kingpin

[BrollySupersj]

They might as well give it up. There's not gonna be another Dare Devil for a long long time.

[Alex The Great]

I don't think they can, legally. Besides, they could use Silvermane or Tombstone instead

[Galactus123]

Scorpion! He could look like this in the movie:
http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/10844.gif

or this
http://www.gamescastlive.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Spider-Man-3-Socking-Scorpion-screenshot_large.jpg

or this
http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb//GamesRadar/us/EXCLUSIVE%20RIGHTS/Exclusive%20Games/S/Spider-Man%203/Everything%20Else/ART/ART%20-%20scorpion--screenshot_large.jpg

Which you think is the best?

[Gianakin_]

The 1st one. And yes to Scorpion as a villain.

[Oscorp]

i'm sorry.. but to any of you who honestly think shocker can be the main villain of any movie.. you're all on something and clearly have never read much of the character. He rarely even gets more then a 2 issue arch... and is considered a 3rd or 4th tier villain... he's just more popular because his main enemy is spider-man. He's right up there with Diamond Back, Hydro-Man, The Beetle, and trantula in the marvel rogue gallery. He's nothing more then a thug and a mercenary with little to no other background

I'm sorry but I think none of us are really thinking of Shocker to be the main villain. We've all said he should be secondary at most.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

^ Well, I said Shocker could be written as a main villain, and if someone didn't pay close attention, they could have thought I was saying that he should be. To clarify, I think it could be done, easily, with the right writing, but a secondary role, or even a cameo, is the most I could realistically hope for in the movie.

I think a cool role for Shocker would be as the first super-criminal that Spidey encounters; he's been doing this hero thing for a while, everything's going smoothly, no real threats. He shows up to foil what he figures is a pretty typical robbery, only to find out the hard way that the safe cracker came very prepared. It'd be the moment that Spidey realizes that criminals are taking notice of him and getting more dangerous as a result.

[Oscorp]

^That would be pretty damn awesome! :up:

[MikeFrost]

Yes, that would be a good way to set it up.

Also have him working for a big mob guy so it actually starts the plot of the movie! Spidey goes to investigate...

[Ken-Kaniff]

Eh, they can make a cameo. Spider-Man fights them once,he kicks there ass. And we never see them again. It'd just be a nice nod too the comics and the die hard fans.
Actually, there are better deserving villains. I always found them pretty lame as well as the times they actually beat Spider-Man! He should be able to take them out so easily! Even in the comics, I hated it whenever they defeated Spider-Man, since the writers made him weaker lol! So no thanks, I'll pass/

i'm sorry.. but to any of you who honestly think shocker can be the main villain of any movie.. you're all on something and clearly have never read much of the character. He rarely even gets more then a 2 issue arch... and is considered a 3rd or 4th tier villain... he's just more popular because his main enemy is spider-man. He's right up there with Diamond Back, Hydro-Man, The Beetle, and trantula in the marvel rogue gallery. He's nothing more then a thug and a mercenary with little to no other background
You know, it's so easy to judge and write useless stuff without having any idea what you're talking about!;)

I've seen also that not just me, but many others mentioned they would like to see Shocker! However, most of us agree that he should not be the main villain, so I got no idea how you jump to conclusions. Just because people want him, doesn't mean they necesarily want him as a main villain.

The 1st one. And yes to Scorpion as a villain.
Not sure which version of Scorpy I would like, but +1 to him being a villain in the new franchise!

[Oscorp]

+2 'bout Scorpion. I think I'd like a mix of the first and last pic of him. The character should be 100% 616 though.

[I'm Venom]

Shocker as the first bad guy besides robbers and thugs seems like a good origin basis.

Adrian Toomes is an ex-employee who wants to smear Oscorp’s business and leaks technology similar in make and style to that of Oscorp into New York’s underworld. Herman Schultz happens to get the gauntlets, and there you go. Shocker and Vulture in the movie would fit with the budget that Sony wants.

[spideyboy_1111]

Honestly, Lizard is the only remaining unused villain who could carry a movie. And I would like to see him. If they don't use Lizzy, then they should have several smaller villains working together. But I don't know how you make that dramatically interesting.

We shall see.

eh that's not true either... personally i think scorpion could work well... especially if you merge him with the spider-slayer robots... and have him be the "ultimate" spider slayer... by being a modified human

[MikeFrost]

When you guys say Lizard, do you mean that hissing green monster with no personality or the one who speaks?

Are you saying the first could carry a movie on it's own?!

[Oscorp]

IMO, Lizard should mostly hiss but there should slip out some understandable words imo. And I don't think Lizard could carry a movie on his own, no matter how great of a villain he is. Unless Spidey has to protect him from police/military forces who want to catch and/or kill him.

[Gianakin_]

They could have him evolve.

[Golgo-13]

As much as i'd love to see The Lizard, i think the Scorpion would be a better choice for this first movie. It would also give us more backstory on JJ Jamerson's hatred towards Spider-Man, which was lacking in the Raimi movies.

Hopefully this won't be an origin movie. The thing i hated about SM1 is that it was just so cheesy that both Spidey and GG were created on the same day. Focus on Gargon becoming The Scorpion. It's only fitting that a spider's top predator, a scorpion, be Spider-Man's first super villain in the movie. Just have him fight street thugs up until then.

[Gianakin_]

As much as i'd love to see The Lizard, i think the Scorpion would be a better choice for this first movie. It would also give us more backstory on JJ Jamerson's hatred towards Spider-Man, which was lacking in the Raimi movies.

Hopefully this won't be an origin movie. The thing i hated about SM1 is that it was just so cheesy that both Spidey and GG were created on the same day. Focus on Gargon becoming The Scorpion. It's only fitting that a spider's top predator, a scorpion, be Spider-Man's first super villain in the movie. Just have him fight street thugs up until then.

I definitely wouldn't mind that. And JJ getting more substance? Sign me up.

[Oscorp]

Sign me up too! Gotta give JJ and Scorpion some spotlight!

[Venom'sDad]

Honestly, Lizard is the only remaining unused villain who could carry a movie. And I would like to see him. I disagree, Others, imo, can carry film as well, Electro, Hobby, Carnage, Rocker Racer(OK, just kidding :D). I just don't trust the writers imagination and usage/understanding of these villains. For the most part, if they use arcadic stories from the comics and make no attempt to modernize and muture; than yes, I agree, Lizard is probably the last unused villain that can carry a film. As much as I enjoyed alot of those stories from comic past... we are talking about feature films in basically 2011. Obviously, I have little faith in the writers, whom probably never read comics or read very few.

If they don't use Lizzy, then they should have several smaller villains working together. But I don't know how you make that dramatically interesting.Which with the rumored budget, I suggest Chameleon and Rhino[technological/mechanical suit(Ultimate)] To evolve these professional criminals, from techno mechanical to biological enhanced superbeings... that Spidy has to learn to deal with. Which is the thesis of my idea of using Chameleon/ Rhino, Norman, Silver Sable, and the Mob... in an updated version of "Gang Wars".... with a slight relation or nod to, what's going on with Marvel Movies surrounding Avengers, IM, TIH, Cap, and Thor.

As much as i'd love to see The Lizard, i think the Scorpion would be a better choice for this first movie. It would also give us more backstory on JJ Jamerson's hatred towards Spider-Man, which was lacking in the Raimi movies.I disagree, Scorpion is so tied to JJJ, that in the reboot, I think JJJ needs some character development of the course of a few films, to better understand why he would invest so much of himself, time, and money in help bringing about Scorpion existence. I can't see them starting right out the gate with JJJ hatred of Spidey that much, in the first film. Understood or not understood... it will be rushed and would be a bad sign of thing to come. :(

[Golgo-13]

I disagree, Scorpion is so tied to JJJ, that in the reboot, I think JJJ needs some character development of the course of a few films, to better understand why he would invest so much of himself, time, and money in help bringing about Scorpion existence. I can't see them starting right out the gate with JJJ hatred of Spidey that much, in the first film. Understood or not understood... it will be rushed and would be a bad sign of thing to come. :(

Well hopefully this is not an origin movie. Spider-Man, at this point, could have been around for a year or so, pissing off JJ. So when we first see JJ, there's already that hatred for him. With some well placed dialogue, and maybe a flashback or two, we can get the backstory as to why he hates him so much. I don't think Spider-Man himself truly understands why he's hated by Jamerson. JJ pretty much kept that to himself. Everyone knows Spider-Man's origin, so there's no need to show it again in detail. Same goes with the JJ/Spidey dynamic. Everyone knows that JJ doesn't like Spidey, now they just need to spend about 20 minutes of film to delve into the why, and everything with Gargan will fall into place......

[Gianakin_]

I don't think JJJ needs more than one film to have his character built. He is, after all, supporting cast. You don't have to delve so deep.

[Golgo-13]

It makes sense if they're using Scorpion in the first film. If they're not then spreading out his backstory between 2-3 films until Scorpy shows up, will suffice.

[Gianakin_]

Agreed. I'm talking in terms of the first film, anyway.

[Brian Braddock]

I'm going for someone who hasnt featured cinematically yet - namely the Lizard.

The above suggestion of Scorpion would kick-ass also.

[Venom'sDad]

Well hopefully this is not an origin movie. Spider-Man, at this point, could have been around for a year or so, pissing off JJ. So when we first see JJ, there's already that hatred for him. With some well placed dialogue, and maybe a flashback or two, we can get the backstory as to why he hates him so much. I don't think Spider-Man himself truly understands why he's hated by Jamerson. JJ pretty much kept that to himself. Everyone knows Spider-Man's origin, so there's no need to show it again in detail. Same goes with the JJ/Spidey dynamic. Everyone knows that JJ doesn't like Spidey, now they just need to spend about 20 minutes of film to delve into the why, and everything with Gargan will fall into place......
Well keep in mind, the film will pick up with him in high school, and probably start freelancing as a photographer for the Daily Bugle. Which means he would not have been Spidey for that long(a year or so); I would think someone would have got a photo of Spidey by then. Nullifying Peter's monopoly of Spidey photos. In other words... the timeline wouldn't quite fit... it would be rushed having the JJJ/Gargan connection so soon.

[Czar Colossus]

Kraven or Vulture and throw in the Chameleon to stir things up.

[Galactus123]

Scorpion and Rhino could be in a same movie. Rhino is classic villian too. I want him to look something like this:
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/11962/230px-Ultimaterhino.jpg

Rhino needs to be big.

[Golgo-13]

Well keep in mind, the film will pick up with him in high school, and probably start freelancing as a photographer for the Daily Bugle. Which means he would not have been Spidey for that long(a year or so); I would think someone would have got a photo of Spidey by then. Nullifying Peter's monopoly of Spidey photos. In other words... the timeline wouldn't quite fit... it would be rushed having the JJJ/Gargan connection so soon.

I thought the High School rumor was just a rumor and was debunked a month or so back....:huh:

Scorpion and Rhino could be in a same movie. Rhino is classic villian too. I want him to look something like this:
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/11962/230px-Ultimaterhino.jpg

Rhino needs to be big.

Yeah, but neither of them are very intelligent are they? We can't have two 'thugs' as the villains.

[Alex The Great]

Thugs can be villains. Rhino's a thug who gets an upgrade. It can work. It worked in TSSM.

[FVD]

I'd prefer Sandman and Rhino together rather than Scorpion, but I'd love to see Scorpion appear on screen in some form eventually.

[SpideyTheBest]

Scorpion sounds like a great choice. But to be honest, I don't want JJ to be involved in creating him. He is a publisher for a newspaper who wants to give Spidey a bad reputation, he should not create and send supervillains to assasinate him. Maybe it worked in the comics in the 60s but this is a live-action movie in the 2000s.

I'd rather have Norman Osborn creating him. He could owe a crime boss like Silvermane who wants Spider-Man dead because he ruins his bussiness. And when Scorpion fails and goes beserk Silvermane sends The Chameleon to finish him off and Spidey has to protect him while Scorpion threatens to kill them both if they don't make him normal again. That's what I would like to see in the first movie.

In the second I would go with Lizard and Kraven. In the third I'd say they should use Green Goblin and Doc Ock again. This is a reboot, they should at least bring back some old characters to imrove them. Otherwise they should have just continue on with the other franchise.

[terry78]

They could allude to the books by maybe having JJJ be indirectly responsible for Scorpion but not realizing it until after the fact. Maybe a former employee or an associate or whatever.

[Ajendo]

After watching Wall Street 2, Josh Brollin would make an amazing Kraven.