Can't they do SOMETHING to mix this with Marvel's movieverse?!

[kaijunexus]

I get that Sony owns the rights to produce Spider-Man films, and that means they can't mix in Marvel characters that their studio doesn't own the rights to, AND that Sony wouldn't give up those profitable rights for anything...

But, this seems like a perfect opportunity to place Spider-Man in Marvel's growing movieverse, alongside the likes of Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, etc.

Couldn't they make some kind of deal with Marvel wherein they retain the rights (they thereby profit), but are allowed to mix their reboot with Marvel's movie characters and universe? I'm sure the two studios could come to some kind of agreement that would allow Sony and Marvel both a fair amount of creative control...

[Mister J]

I'm sure the two studios could come to some kind of agreement that would allow Sony and Marvel both a fair amount of creative control...
I'm not so sure. Too much greed on either side.

I'll never expect to see such a thing happen, unless Sony just flat out relinquished the rights for a hefty check.

[I Am The Bat]

I'm not so sure. Too much greed on either side.

I'll never expect to see such a thing happen, unless Sony just flat out relinquished the rights for a hefty check.

Especially with a 2012 deadline...

But what WOULD the movie look like if they could!

[R_Hythlodeus]

my hope is, that this reboot never sees daylight so that after a few years the rights will go back to marvel

[Mister J]

But what WOULD the movie look like if they could!
Cannot process thought.

Too much awesome.

[Aesop Rocks]

Spider-Man in MY Avengers?

*faint*

[craigdbfan]

This is my dream.

Although its way to complicated at this point.

Lets think about it for a second. Disney now owns Marvel. Paramount has distributing rights over Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America.

So even if Disney bought the filming rights for Spider-Man they would then have to negotiate something with Paramount, which won't happen as Disney will want to distribute the film.

[I Am The Bat]

This is my dream.

Although its way to complicated at this point.

Lets think about it for a second. Disney now owns Marvel. Paramount has distributing rights over Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America.

So even if Disney bought the filming rights for Spider-Man they would then have to negotiate something with Paramount, which won't happen as Disney will want to distribute the film.

SHHHHHH Don't ruin the moment...

[Chewy]

This is my dream.

Although its way to complicated at this point.

Lets think about it for a second. Disney now owns Marvel. Paramount has distributing rights over Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America.

So even if Disney bought the filming rights for Spider-Man they would then have to negotiate something with Paramount, which won't happen as Disney will want to distribute the film.
Paramount will distribute the films Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America, Avengers, and Iron Man 3. They do not own any longstanding rights to distribute films based on these characters, and DisMarvel certainly would not need to negotiate anything with Paramount in order to mix franchises

That said, this won't happen.

[kaijunexus]

But wouldn't such a partnership benefit both parties, really?

Spider-Man has had a large general population following for years. Iron Man is now a massive hit as well. Imagine the ticket sales if moviegoers were told that both characters would now exist within the same universe and interact onscreen!

Sony gets the benefit of being able to show Spider-Man interacting with more Marvel characters, while Marvel gets the benefit of having Spider-Man make a cameo in The Avengers!

I mean, what a missed opportunity this would be if a full reboot happens without any connection to the new Marvel movie universe...

what a waste...

[craigdbfan]

Paramount will distribute the films Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America, Avengers, and Iron Man 3. They do not own any longstanding rights to distribute films based on these characters, and DisMarvel certainly would not need to negotiate anything with Paramount in order to mix franchises

That said, this won't happen.

Not sure about that. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Paramount has distribution rights for these characters until they relinquish (sell the rights).

Just like Universal has Hulk and, Fox has the X-Men, and Sony with Spider-Man.

[Lauryn2000]

Marvel probably wishes they could have sold ALL the characters to Disney.

Instead Sony owning the rights to this one,Universal owning the rights to these two-three and Paramount owning four-five.

Sounds like baby-papa drama where all the kids got different daddies and mommy wants to have a family gathering but the dad's aren't having it...*sigh*.......................:whatever:

[GREEN =w= DAY]

i just wish Disney owned all the rights to Marvel characters, just like WB owns the rights to DC characters

things would be much simpler

[I Am The Bat]

i just wish Disney owned all the rights to Marvel characters, just like WB owns the rights to DC characters

things would be much simpler

and for, potentially, a lot of horrible movies

[Sawyer]

Spider-Man in MY Avengers?

*faint*

Theres a difference between being in the same general universe as Iron Man, TIH, Thor, etc. and being a part of the actual Avengers team.

[FaT_tONle]

You guys really want a 18 year old Parker tangling with a 50 year old RDJ? Down the line, great, but not this current Avengers series. If so, I am sure Disney would have filed the law suit last week if Spidey fit into their immediate plans.

Oh and one other thing, PLEASE ACQUIRE KINGPIN FOR ****'s sake. Dare Devil is dead and Rothman knows it.

[kaijunexus]

You guys really want a 18 year old Parker tangling with a 50 year old RDJ?

Tony is significantly older than Peter in the comics, yet they often interact in that medium. Why is it any different on film?

[FaT_tONle]

It won't look right on screen with such an age disparity. The comics can mask that quite a bit. I am all for Spidey eventually coming into Avengers, but I understand that if they don't get this worked out now, it will never happen. There is no need for Spidey to be a featured Avenger anyway, not anytime soon. As far as cameos, absolutely. But Marvel has to be fair. Lend characters out to Sony, and they will return the favor.

[Sawyer]

It won't look right on screen with such an age disparity. The comics can mask that quite a bit. I am all for Spidey eventually coming into Avengers, but I understand that if they don't get this worked out now, it will never happen. There is no need for Spidey to be a featured Avenger anyway, not anytime soon. As far as cameos, absolutely. But Marvel has to be fair. Lend characters out to Sony, and they will return the favor.

There's no way they'll cast a 15 year old as Spidey. I'm willing to bet on that. At the least, the actor playing him will probably be in the 18-20 age range.

[Immortalfire]

No way. Sony has too much money in this thing to let Marvel take it back.

[Spider-Vader]

I reeeally wish this would happen. Plus, it'd benefit Sony because they could get some dough if Spidey were to appear in an Avengers movie. Which, if Marvel was allowed to use him WOULD happen.

[hippie_hunter]

This is my dream.

Although its way to complicated at this point.

Lets think about it for a second. Disney now owns Marvel. Paramount has distributing rights over Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America.

So even if Disney bought the filming rights for Spider-Man they would then have to negotiate something with Paramount, which won't happen as Disney will want to distribute the film.

Paramount only has the distribution rights to Iron Man 2 & 3, Thor, First Avenger: Captain America, and Avengers. Disney will distribute any further Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, and Hulk films.

[craigdbfan]

Paramount only has the distribution rights to Iron Man 2 & 3, Thor, First Avenger: Captain America, and Avengers. Disney will distribute any further Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, and Hulk films.

So I guess only Fox and Sony have complete control over the Marvel franchises they bought during the 90's right?

In that case it'd be awesome if Sony and Disney could broker a deal to have Spidey in with IM, Thor etc.

Although this is nothing but a gigantic dream.

[FaT_tONle]

There's no way they'll cast a 15 year old as Spidey. I'm willing to bet on that. At the least, the actor playing him will probably be in the 18-20 age range.

Well if they are looking for a Harry Potter type 5-6 movie franchise then you have to cast young. But I doubt Sony is looking that far ahead. Probably we'll get a movie and a few sequels and we'll be in the same boat as we are in now, so I agree more or less.

[Chewy]

So I guess only Fox and Sony have complete control over the Marvel franchises they bought during the 90's right?

In that case it'd be awesome if Sony and Disney could broker a deal to have Spidey in with IM, Thor etc.

Although this is nothing but a gigantic dream.
For fans it would be awesome

It means Sony giving up a % of their profits for an unnecessary expense, however, and they won't do it.

[craigdbfan]

Exactly.

Studio politics will surely get in the way of this ever happening.

[hippie_hunter]

No way. Sony has too much money in this thing to let Marvel take it back.

But Sony just has a three picture deal with Marvel. It isn't clear what will happen after the sixth Spider-Man film because it would make no sense for Marvel to have agreed to an in perpetual film rights contract with Sony Pictures when they had Marvel Studios that was fresh off the success of Iron Man and releasing the Incredible Hulk.

Honestly I would see some kind of Sony/Marvel deal as a win-win situation. Sony would benefit from having Spider-Man associate with Iron Man who is a big thing right now and Disney would benefit from having Spider-Man in their film universe (and if the film rights revert after the third film, they wouldn't need to introduce him in their film universe).

[craigdbfan]

But Sony just has a three picture deal with Marvel. It isn't clear what will happen after the sixth Spider-Man film because it would make no sense for Marvel to have agreed to an in perpetual film rights contract with Sony Pictures when they had Marvel Studios that was fresh off the success of Iron Man and releasing the Incredible Hulk.

Honestly I would see some kind of Sony/Marvel deal as a win-win situation. Sony would benefit from having Spider-Man associate with Iron Man who is a big thing right now and Disney would benefit from having Spider-Man in their film universe (and if the film rights revert after the third film, they wouldn't need to introduce him in their film universe).

That would be the greatest thing ever.

But ego's and money will always deter this from happening. But it would be fantastic if they come to a mutual consensus in allowing this to occur.

[hippie_hunter]

So I guess only Fox and Sony have complete control over the Marvel franchises they bought during the 90's right?

In that case it'd be awesome if Sony and Disney could broker a deal to have Spidey in with IM, Thor etc.

Although this is nothing but a gigantic dream.

Sony signed another three picture deal with Marvel in 2008 for Spider-Man. But they have in perpetual rights to Ghost Rider. So honestly, I think that Disney will take them from Sony after Sony makes their sixth Spider-Man film. Why wouldn't they?

20th Century Fox on the other hand has in perpetual rights to all the film characters they own. But at the rate Daredevil is going, the film rights will revert to Disney pretty much any day now, and the same could happen to Fantastic Four if nothing is done as well. X-Men on the other hand will never leave Fox.

[Ipodman]

Might as well bring in Wolverine while we're at it

[FaT_tONle]

So Sony has three movies left yet they are going back to high school? Okay maybe this isn't such a good idea. But I have no doubt Sony will work out an extension if they continue to make bank. Marvel will just ask them to fork over more money. Things can change. Everyone has been let go. Maybe they decide to keep it in college and can finish it up in three films.

[kaijunexus]

Sony signed another three picture deal with Marvel in 2008 for Spider-Man.

Why did Marvel allow this?! Why not take Spidey back when they had the chance?

[Ipodman]

After credits scene:

Spidey meets with Deadpool!

[craigdbfan]

Sony signed another three picture deal with Marvel in 2008 for Spider-Man. But they have in perpetual rights to Ghost Rider. So honestly, I think that Disney will take them from Sony after Sony makes their sixth Spider-Man film. Why wouldn't they?

20th Century Fox on the other hand has in perpetual rights to all the film characters they own. But at the rate Daredevil is going, the film rights will revert to Disney pretty much any day now, and the same could happen to Fantastic Four if nothing is done as well. X-Men on the other hand will never leave Fox.

According to Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118013607.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&ref=vertfilm) Sony has perpetual rights to Spider-Man as well. As long as Sony keeps making Spider-Man films the rights won't go back to Marvel/Disney.

"Last week, Columbia confirmed that "Spider Man 4," which was scheduled to begin lensing in February and be released in 2011, was on hold indefinitely due to script problems. Columbia needs to continue actively developing "Spider Man" films or else the property will revert back to Disney/Marvel."

If thats the case I'd say Spider-Man will never leave Sony either. :(

[Ipodman]

Well... at least the Spidey films will churn out faster if Marvel isnt making em
Right? Or does Marvel have like multiple movie studios now...

[hippie_hunter]

Why did Marvel allow this?! Why not take Spidey back when they had the chance?

Because you had Iron Man which was a huge success and you had Incredible Hulk which was lukewarmly accepted. With other movies like Thor, Avengers, Captain America, etc., Marvel just didn't have the time to develop Spider-Man and if Marvel Studios failed you still have the Spider-Man film franchise going.

[hippie_hunter]

According to Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118013607.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&ref=vertfilm) Sony has perpetual rights to Spider-Man as well. As long as Sony keeps making Spider-Man films the rights won't go back to Marvel/Disney.



If thats the case I'd say Spider-Man will never leave Sony either. :(

Marvel developing an in perpetual deal with Sony for Spider-Man nonetheless when Marvel Studios was formed doesn't make any sense. Sure you can't tell if Marvel Studios will be a success in the long term, but if it is, giving Sony a three picture deal gives you the opportunity to take the film rights back and if it isn't you can still keep the franchise going.

Sony claims to have a perpetual deal on Spider-Man but they had to renew the deal in 2008 after making three films, I don't see why Marvel would change that. And the original story did say that the deal was for Spider-Man 4, 5, and 6.

[mclay18]

Not sure about that. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Paramount has distribution rights for these characters until they relinquish (sell the rights).

Just like Universal has Hulk and, Fox has the X-Men, and Sony with Spider-Man.

Wrong. Marvel owns the Hulk rights now; Universal only owns the first Hulk movie. Should Marvel choose to make a Hulk sequel, it will either be distributed by Universal like TIH was or by Disney's production arm.

[craigdbfan]

Wrong. Marvel owns the Hulk rights now; Universal only owns the first Hulk movie. Should Marvel choose to make a Hulk sequel, it will either be distributed by Universal like TIH was or by Disney's production arm.

Partially wrong I guess.

[craigdbfan]

Marvel developing an in perpetual deal with Sony for Spider-Man nonetheless when Marvel Studios was formed doesn't make any sense. Sure you can't tell if Marvel Studios will be a success in the long term, but if it is, giving Sony a three picture deal gives you the opportunity to take the film rights back and if it isn't you can still keep the franchise going.

Sony claims to have a perpetual deal on Spider-Man but they had to renew the deal in 2008 after making three films, I don't see why Marvel would change that. And the original story did say that the deal was for Spider-Man 4, 5, and 6.

It's not completely from left field though.

Marvel did a similar contract with the X-Men for Fox. Everything I've read and that is still being reported up to this point is that Sony has a perpetual reign over Spider-Man filming rights as long as they keep making these movies. Don't see why Sony would claim something they didn't actually have.

Otherwise it gets reverted back to Marvel/Disney.