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Doctor Jones
01-08-2011, 11:15 AM
"Style" as in different, adding a sense of "real world grittyness" does not mean suspending the fact that there are "out of this world" elements still part of it, which I never said.

Differentiate, think out of the box.

Zippers aren't really thinking outside the box dude.

Spider-Man's costume shouldn't require that much. It isn't hard to do his costume or redesign it. Stay faithful to the image of the character but bring it into the real world as if it was in the real world. But I don't want to see any explanation about it. It's to enhance the imagery of the comics and bring it into the third dimension.

Like Ajendo said, don't make changes for the sake of it. I don't want a copy of Raimi's but his stayed true to the imagery of the comics but he brought it into the real world. This should do the same.

terry78
01-08-2011, 11:17 AM
What do most males that wear leotards or other types of costumes do when they put them on nowadays?

Ajendo
01-08-2011, 11:17 AM
How the hell is TMNT gritty? And you're comparing it to the Spider-Man films?! *leaves thread*

You do realise he's talking about the 1990 live action film. Sure, it had some cheesy, light hearted moments but the film still was pretty dark and gritty.

Spider-ManHero12
01-08-2011, 11:25 AM
^^ But...it's TMNT. I mean, I've seen it and yeah, it's gritty...for kids. The fact that it's being compared to a big blockbuster franchise like SPider-Man baffles me.

Ajendo
01-08-2011, 11:29 AM
Well both are blockbuster films, both originated from comic books and TMNT was a much darker film in tone.

SkullDevil217
01-08-2011, 11:33 AM
I have to agree with Ajendo here. Remember the profanity in the film?

Spider-ManHero12
01-08-2011, 11:38 AM
..But it's still TMNT. As good as it is, I find it hard to imagine hundreds of people waiting outside a film theater to see TMNT. You have to remember, TMNT is geared more towards kids than the character of SPider-Man ever was.

NinjaCarm
01-08-2011, 11:43 AM
Well both are blockbuster films, both originated from comic books and TMNT was a much darker film in tone.

Nice, some reason. And to those "who can't believe" I'm comparring, believe it. Get over it. Much darker film, much more adult oriented in tone.

Awesome flick.

SkullDevil217
01-08-2011, 11:43 AM
..But it's still TMNT. As good as it is, I find it hard to imagine hundreds of people waiting outside a film theater to see TMNT. You have to remember, TMNT is geared more towards kids than the character of SPider-Man ever was.
Now that I think about it, I see your point. In the late 1980's early 1990's, TMNT was very popular among very young kids. Spider-Man appeals to a more older demographic, and while the Raimi movies were not as dark as the comics, they still had a serious side in them.

NinjaCarm
01-08-2011, 11:47 AM
..But it's still TMNT. As good as it is, I find it hard to imagine hundreds of people waiting outside a film theater to see TMNT. You have to remember, TMNT is geared more towards kids than the character of SPider-Man ever was.

Wow, what a way of thinking. That's the kind of thinking that sticks generations of people in the same place.

We have thousands upon thousands of imaginative creatures, stories, etc, but when one is not as the other, it is deemed unworthy of "being taken serious."

What a simpleton un open minded approach.

Spider-Man is geared towards kids, so is Batman, so is everything else.

It's a matter of being taken serious and the direction of tone of which dictates how the subject matter manifests itself.

TMNT 1990 was solid, well acted, very gritty, did not insult kids intelligences. It was taken seriously, the approach was handled very well for the most part. I'm not saying it was Schindlers List or Titantic, but it knew when the hell to cut the cheese and not insult the audience. In fact, it related to the audience by not undermining them. The interactions and acting of the turtles themselves were better than ALOT of acting I have ever seen. Go to IMDB or Amazon, look up the reviews to the movie if you do not believe me of the general consensus about the film.

Ajendo
01-08-2011, 11:50 AM
All this does is work in favour of spidey fans pushing for a more serious approach and of course show that the creators of TMNT had balls. If TMNT in the 80s/90s was geared to a much more younger demographic than spidey was (moot point) and yet the film makers were able to make a tonally dark/gritty film that paid minute attention to cheese and fluffy crap, then why is it Raimi/Sony couldn't do the same. Spider-Man has always been and will always be a bigger name than TMNT, money shouldn't even be an issue. The fact is, the TMNT guys just had bigger balls and paid more attention to the original TMNT comics which were dark to begin with.

Ajendo
01-08-2011, 11:51 AM
Wow, what a way of thinking. That's the kind of thinking that sticks generations of people in the same place.

We have thousands upon thousands of imaginative creatures, stories, etc, but when one is not as the other, it is deemed unworthy of "being taken serious."

What a simpleton un open minded approach.

Spider-Man is geared towards kids, so is Batman, so is everything else.

It's a matter of being taken serious and the direction of tone of which dictates how the subject matter manifests itself.

TMNT 1990 was solid, well acted, very gritty, did not insult kids intelligences. It was taken seriously, the approach was handled very well for the most part. I'm not saying it was Schindlers List or Titantic, but it knew when the hell to cut the cheese and not insult the audience. In fact, it related to the audience by not undermining them. The interactions and acting of the turtles themselves were better than ALOT of acting I have ever seen. Go to IMDB or Amazon, look up the reviews to the movie if you do not believe me of the general consensus about the film.

Well said.

NinjaCarm
01-08-2011, 11:56 AM
:applaud:applaudAll this does is work in favour of spidey fans pushing for a more serious approach and of course show that the creators of TMNT had balls. If TMNT in the 80s/90s was geared to a much more younger demographic than spidey was (moot point) and yet the film makers were able to make a tonally dark/gritty film that paid minute attention to cheese and fluffy crap, then why is it Raimi/Sony couldn't do the same. Spider-Man has always been and will always be a bigger name than TMNT, money shouldn't even be an issue. The fact is, the TMNT guys just had bigger balls and paid more attention to the original TMNT comics which were dark to begin with.


:applaud:applaud

BRAVO!

SkullDevil217
01-08-2011, 12:03 PM
Keep in mind that we still don't know how dark/gritty the film will be. I definetly want it to also be very dramatic and such, since apparently Captain Stacy will die at the end of the film.

Spider-ManHero12
01-08-2011, 12:13 PM
Wow, what a way of thinking. That's the kind of thinking that sticks generations of people in the same place.

We have thousands upon thousands of imaginative creatures, stories, etc, but when one is not as the other, it is deemed unworthy of "being taken serious."

What a simpleton un open minded approach.

Spider-Man is geared towards kids, so is Batman, so is everything else.

It's a matter of being taken serious and the direction of tone of which dictates how the subject matter manifests itself.

TMNT 1990 was solid, well acted, very gritty, did not insult kids intelligences. It was taken seriously, the approach was handled very well for the most part. I'm not saying it was Schindlers List or Titantic, but it knew when the hell to cut the cheese and not insult the audience. In fact, it related to the audience by not undermining them. The interactions and acting of the turtles themselves were better than ALOT of acting I have ever seen. Go to IMDB or Amazon, look up the reviews to the movie if you do not believe me of the general consensus about the film. I still can't blelieve that you are actually trying to compare the Spider-man franchise to TMNT. So, you're saying that TMNT was a film that made adults want to see it over and over because of it's "Grittiness"? It'doesn't appeal to all audiances. Do you actually think a 40 year old man is going to say "I'm going to go and watch the new TMNT. looks badass"?I'm just going to right out and say it. I think you are just grasping for another reason to put Raimi's films down. You've run out of ideas. This is just..funny. It really is. Now, I can see calling TMNT gritty for kids, but you're trying to tell me that it's a perfect example? It's not. The film was way more of a kids film than Spider-Man (2002) (both appeal to kids, but TMNT more), and no, it's not the approach to take. Also, a simpleton approach? LMAO, don't get me started.

Btw, the idea of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles itself is cheesey, so........

Eelectro 2
01-08-2011, 03:00 PM
raimis movies were good, were, but i fully believe a new and more refined direction with a better peter will be so much better. i own and enjoy raimis trilogy, but they can definetly be topped

Troy_Parker
01-08-2011, 03:23 PM
http://i.livescience.com/images/spidey-gauntlet-02.jpg



Where is this from...?

socool
01-08-2011, 03:34 PM
Where is this from...?

It's the cover to one of the recent ASM issues.

LuisTX85
01-08-2011, 04:50 PM
I thought the TMNT movie was also made for the fans of the original comics(kids sure were NOT the targeted audience)than just kids fans of the early 90's toon!?.

Ultimate Doom
01-08-2011, 05:51 PM
Where is this from...?

One of the covers for spider-mans whole "gauntlet" story

NinjaCarm
01-08-2011, 06:24 PM
I still can't blelieve that you are actually trying to compare the Spider-man franchise to TMNT. So, you're saying that TMNT was a film that made adults want to see it over and over because of it's "Grittiness"? It'doesn't appeal to all audiances. Do you actually think a 40 year old man is going to say "I'm going to go and watch the new TMNT. looks badass"?I'm just going to right out and say it. I think you are just grasping for another reason to put Raimi's films down. You've run out of ideas. This is just..funny. It really is. Now, I can see calling TMNT gritty for kids, but you're trying to tell me that it's a perfect example? It's not. The film was way more of a kids film than Spider-Man (2002) (both appeal to kids, but TMNT more), and no, it's not the approach to take. Also, a simpleton approach? LMAO, don't get me started.

Btw, the idea of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles itself is cheesey, so........

I don't know what else to tell you, nothing I can say will change your mind. I believe in my opinion deeply. The first TMNT was handled way more intelligently then the Spider-Man franchise thus far. The filmmakers had foresight, balls, and good filmmaking skills, period.

Immortalfire
01-08-2011, 06:32 PM
:facepalm:

Spideyfan93
01-08-2011, 06:38 PM
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp205/rJs_photos/spiderman-facepalm.jpg

NinjaCarm
01-08-2011, 06:54 PM
From a users on IMBD. Keep posting your facepalm pics, I know it's hard for simple minds to understand. I know.

"Whether film buffs would ever admit it or not, the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie is a classic film, arguably way before its time. Although for the die-hard fans of the comic book this movie did lack the apparent actual violence it did instead have great dramatic scenes blended in with witty comedic lines.

With a dark tone and gritty cinematography filmed with fantastic sets and locations around New York this 90s movie is far from something to be pigeonholed 'just for kids' or a 'family movie'.

The aforementioned 'surfer dialogue' criticised in other reviews can be put down to personal taste, as the majority of fans do find this lingo both entertaining and quote-worthy. Who could forget Splinter exclaiming "I... have always liked... COWABUNGA!!" Casey Jones is one of the greatest characters in film for a long time and the performances given throughout, even though can be labelled slightly b-grade, are lovable all the same from Chief Sterns to Charles and Master Tatsu. The angst of Raphael to the cheekiness of Michelangelo there is nothing not to like about the characters in this movie.

The musical score is great and ranges from intense to comical - very fitting for a movie that is exactly that in its mood, without becoming corny unlike its follow-up films. MC Hammer creates the best songs of his career. Shameless fun.

All of the scenes are special in different ways to different fans of this cult classic; from Casey Jones vs Raphael in the park to the Antique Store battle.

Extremely under-rated. One of the best comic-book adaptations ever made and one of the defining films in a LOT of people's childhoods. A fantastic film for anyone with direction and storyline that remains highly enjoyable through the test of time.

Brilliant."

And.

I speak out on behalf of all fans of the TMNT!

"This is not a bad movie!

You might say it has no storyline but I say it's kept simplistic for all the comic book fans. You don't want to confuse people with a massive complex tale. No one argues with 'Enter the Dragon' having a bad storyline!

The characters in this movie are wonderfully set up. Right from the start we see that Raphael has issues. This anger forces him to distance himself and in the process we feel his fury. We immerse ourselves in the character and see how deep he can go. From woefully staring into New York from a rooftop or letting out a frenzy upon the gang that has literally knocked April to the ground we are getting to know the character inside and out. This is the hero of the movie. As for the comedic cheek of Casey Jones or the light-hearted double wisecracks of Michaelangelo and Donatello, I'd love to see the reason behind this movie having "no character study" as some people might say.

The action scenes are set up within the constraints of a normal fun movie with great camera angles just dying to be put on an advert or poster.

The turtle effects by the Jim Henson creature shop don't disappoint even though Splinter looks like he walked straight off the set of 'Labyrinth'. The turtles are so good you shouldn't care anyway. The animatronics are fab and the voice characterisation is well chosen.

As for the main blessing, Steve Barron has chosen a dark tone for his movie. The original comic book would have been made proud by this attempt at making the movie more adult than people could believe. The crime-filled backdrops of New York make a great battleground, and the whole mythological element that all crime is ruled by a master ninja adds to the drama. The soundtrack couldn't be better for the beginning.

This is a fantastic movie and horribly underrated. With so many great elements this goes down as one of the all time great fantasy adventures. 10 out of 10 and a cowabunga to boot!"

And

"This is easily the most underrated movie in history. Even if you were not a fan of the cartoon show while growing up, you should still definetaly give this a try. This movie contains a kind of humor that the modern movies today cannot produce, even up to this very day i can still watch and love every minute of this classic. I know the idea of a group of 4 turtles who are trained in the art of ninjitsu, and who hang around in the sewers and eat pizza is well....cheesy, but the atmosphere in this movie is dark and serious and is great fun for people of any age. In fact i could not understand most of the jokes when i was a young lad, but as i got older and watched this movie again, i realized that it was even funnier than i remembered. Everybody should take the time to watch this as it is a pure classic, as well everyone should work hard to higher the IMDb score for this movie."

I could keep going btw...

NinjaCarm
01-08-2011, 06:55 PM
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp205/rJs_photos/spiderman-facepalm.jpg

:barf::barf::barf::barf:

what I say to that

NinjaCarm
01-08-2011, 06:56 PM
:facepalm:

And I say this to that

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa140/tesla_mw/picard-face-palm.gif

NinjaCarm
01-08-2011, 06:57 PM
You'll never ever convince me the Raimi Spider-Man franchise took more risks or was less cheesy than the first TMNT 1990 film. Never in a million years so don't bother please.

NinjaCarm
01-08-2011, 06:59 PM
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg233/mondeau2/spiderman.jpg

I would kill to see something resembling the Alex Ross drawings. One of my favorite artists ever.

Back to the costume discussion, I love this and have said so in the past.

Spideyfan93
01-08-2011, 07:03 PM
Can't go wrong with Alex Ross.

chaseter
01-08-2011, 07:25 PM
You'll never ever convince me the Raimi Spider-Man franchise took more risks or was less cheesy than the first TMNT 1990 film. Never in a million years so don't bother please.

HAHAHAHAHA.
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4145/failownedjokerfail.jpg

Doctor Jones
01-08-2011, 08:16 PM
You know why it's true? Because I saw it on IMDB.

roach
01-08-2011, 08:48 PM
All source of truth originates from IMDB

BLACK-SPIDEY
01-08-2011, 09:45 PM
Oh yes, Aunt Carnage was great in SM3......

socool
01-08-2011, 10:04 PM
Oh yes, Aunt Carnage was great in SM3......

Best part of any movie...ever

NinjaCarm
01-08-2011, 10:21 PM
Simpletons.:o

Spidey_62
01-08-2011, 11:16 PM
Best part of any movie...ever
She actually also had a cameo in SM2.. :ninja:

LuisTX85
01-08-2011, 11:48 PM
I'm sure i'm going be in some flame war now and it's likely going to backfire on me,But why can't people leave other people's OPINIONS alone and just leave it at that??,I mean no need to"face palms"/"fail"and critic to such an extend!,I'm not suggesting for everyone to start suck each other off But.....Nobody is right and nobody is wrong,NinjaCarm has repeated many times that it's his opinions and yet people post the face palm crap and the"You know why it's true? Because I saw it on IMDB"/"All source of truth originates from IMDB"......When the **** did he say it was the truth??.

IMO!.....So many damn douche's every day,getting worse,It's like being immature is all the way to go while IQ drops.

LuisTX85
01-08-2011, 11:50 PM
Oh and back on topic!.....I think that's an awesome Alex Ross drawing as usual.

chaseter
01-09-2011, 12:46 AM
He doesn't post that because it is truly his opinion, he posts that to try and illicit a response from people. It would be like me going into the Batman threads and saying how clearly Schumacher's work was way better than Nolan's work. Schumacher clearly knew that for Bruce Wayne to truly be Batman, he needed nipples.

Oscorp
01-09-2011, 05:24 AM
HAHAHAHAHA.
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4145/failownedjokerfail.jpg

lmao!! :pal:

Lunar_Wolf
01-09-2011, 05:29 AM
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/vlcsnap-2011-01-07-15h53m00s12.png

SkullDevil217
01-09-2011, 05:51 AM
I'm sure i'm going be in some flame war now and it's likely going to backfire on me,But why can't people leave other people's OPINIONS alone and just leave it at that??,I mean no need to"face palms"/"fail"and critic to such an extend!,I'm not suggesting for everyone to start suck each other off But.....Nobody is right and nobody is wrong,NinjaCarm has repeated many times that it's his opinions and yet people post the face palm crap and the"You know why it's true? Because I saw it on IMDB"/"All source of truth originates from IMDB"......When the **** did he say it was the truth??.

IMO!.....So many damn douche's every day,getting worse,It's like being immature is all the way to go while IQ drops.
100% agreed.

roach
01-09-2011, 05:57 AM
he doesn't post that because it is truly his opinion, he posts that to try and illicit a response from people. It would be like me going into the batman threads and saying how clearly schumacher's work was way better than nolan's work. Schumacher clearly knew that for bruce wayne to truly be batman, he needed nipples.

qft

rcazzy
01-09-2011, 10:51 AM
He doesn't post that because it is truly his opinion, he posts that to try and illicit a response from people. It would be like me going into the Batman threads and saying how clearly Schumacher's work was way better than Nolan's work. Schumacher clearly knew that for Bruce Wayne to truly be Batman, he needed nipples.


If anything, it is to illicit a debate since everyone is so quick to knock down his opinions and while he gives his reasons and argument, others post facepalm images and discredit him in such ways without giving their own reasons.

I actually agree with NinjaCarm in relation to some of his points and his looks at other's opinions on the film he agrees with.

Silver Knight
01-09-2011, 10:55 AM
WHy has Sony not given us a press call and shown the costume?

Pac-Master
01-09-2011, 10:58 AM
Because it's still early. The film comes out July of next year. May or June seems like a good time to release a picture of the suit, like Thor did.

Doctor Jones
01-09-2011, 10:58 AM
edit.

cryptic name
01-09-2011, 11:44 AM
..But it's still TMNT. As good as it is, I find it hard to imagine hundreds of people waiting outside a film theater to see TMNT. You have to remember, TMNT is geared more towards kids than the character of SPider-Man ever was.

i honestly would have said the same thing about spidey prior to the release of the first movie.

NinjaCarm
01-09-2011, 01:42 PM
I'm sure i'm going be in some flame war now and it's likely going to backfire on me,But why can't people leave other people's OPINIONS alone and just leave it at that??,I mean no need to"face palms"/"fail"and critic to such an extend!,I'm not suggesting for everyone to start suck each other off But.....Nobody is right and nobody is wrong,NinjaCarm has repeated many times that it's his opinions and yet people post the face palm crap and the"You know why it's true? Because I saw it on IMDB"/"All source of truth originates from IMDB"......When the **** did he say it was the truth??.

IMO!.....So many damn douche's every day,getting worse,It's like being immature is all the way to go while IQ drops.

Thank you sir you common sense and support is appreciated. There are many undesirable posters in here that are simply worse than grime on my shoes.

NinjaCarm
01-09-2011, 01:45 PM
If anything, it is to illicit a debate since everyone is so quick to knock down his opinions and while he gives his reasons and argument, others post facepalm images and discredit him in such ways without giving their own reasons.

I actually agree with NinjaCarm in relation to some of his points and his looks at other's opinions on the film he agrees with.

Thank you sir for your support and common sense. There are so many people in this forum that simply shoot down an opinion, while I simply validate my own and then I get gang up on. It's like a little high school in here. Just like the real world... what you going to do.

My sentiments on TMNT 1990 are seen throughout opinions on many websites. No where did I state IMDB was the truth. That is a childish response from childish people.

Amazon, IMBD, etc, are merely places of where people post their opinions and I was pointing those out. To say IMDB is the truth means you have no real response to my claim.

NinjaCarm
01-09-2011, 01:47 PM
He doesn't post that because it is truly his opinion, he posts that to try and illicit a response from people. It would be like me going into the Batman threads and saying how clearly Schumacher's work was way better than Nolan's work. Schumacher clearly knew that for Bruce Wayne to truly be Batman, he needed nipples.

chaester, you never have anything good to say about anyone and are one the biggest most whiniest forced opinionated people in these forums, I would rather seek the opinion of a 2 year old child who speaks a language I do not understand than listen to any of your crap. Your truly an undesirable poster in here.

LegendaryCaleb
01-09-2011, 01:50 PM
chaester, you never have anything good to say about anyone and are one the biggest most whiniest forced opinionated people in these forums, I would rather seek the opinion of a 2 year old child who speaks a language I do not understand than listen to any of your crap. Your truly an undesirable poster in here.
and if you notice half of his posts are sarcastic and trying so hard to be funny...which is other words is trolling
i really feel he might a kiddo

NinjaCarm
01-09-2011, 01:52 PM
and if you notice half of his posts are sarcastic and trying so hard to be funny...which is other words is trolling
i really feel he might a kiddo

it's sad I know, I cannot claim he is a child, but he sure acts like one with an ultra opinionated nature

NinjaCarm
01-09-2011, 01:55 PM
Yet another positive review of TMNT 1990 supporting my claim of great acting, directing, not insulting people with loads of cheese and instead dark, gritty and real situations and responses. My sentiment that it is well crafted film not geared exclusively at children is appreciated.

Oh, and it's not from IMDB.

http://www.moviefilmreview.com/2498/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1990

NinjaCarm
01-09-2011, 01:57 PM
Wow, Spider-Weird?
http://archive.liveauctioneers.com/archive4/profiles-in-history/16511/0735_3_lg.jpg

Boom
01-09-2011, 02:05 PM
His mask doubles as a pasta strainer.

chaseter
01-09-2011, 02:14 PM
chaester, you never have anything good to say about anyone and are one the biggest most whiniest forced opinionated people in these forums, I would rather seek the opinion of a 2 year old child who speaks a language I do not understand than listen to any of your crap. Your truly an undesirable poster in here.

I could start posting the same picture of Sam Raimi 100 times if that would please you.

chaseter
01-09-2011, 02:16 PM
and if you notice half of his posts are sarcastic and trying so hard to be funny...which is other words is trolling
i really feel he might a kiddo

More referencing to me. You love me, you really, really love me.:fhm:

A&W
01-09-2011, 02:34 PM
one of the things that bothered me was the color scheme of his costume. the red and the blue just always looked a little too blackish for me. except the webs. those looked too grey and white.

NinjaCarm
01-09-2011, 02:35 PM
His mask doubles as a pasta strainer.

:woot:

chaseter
01-09-2011, 02:36 PM
But as a plus, it's got that home made realistic look to it.

Immortalfire
01-09-2011, 02:39 PM
But as a plus, it's got that home made realistic look to it.

Hell yeah.

Spider-ManHero12
01-09-2011, 02:41 PM
chaester, you never have anything good to say about anyone and are one the biggest most whiniest forced opinionated people in these forums, I would rather seek the opinion of a 2 year old child who speaks a language I do not understand than listen to any of your crap. Your truly an undesirable poster in here. And you used to troll. Alot.

A&W
01-09-2011, 02:42 PM
HOnestyly shattered dimensions has the perfect black costume. And both friend or foe and shattered have perfect red and blue costumes. I mean during the short in game movies of course.

NinjaCarm
01-09-2011, 02:53 PM
Shattered Dimensions is a good game.

Scarlettess
01-09-2011, 03:41 PM
If they based the new costume on any Alex Ross design I would be happy.

or something like this:
http://www.sebdrew.de/JPGs/spiderman28.jpg

Source: http://www.sebdrew.de/JPGs/spiderman28.jpg

Scarlettess
01-09-2011, 03:49 PM
HOnestyly shattered dimensions has the perfect black costume. And both friend or foe and shattered have perfect red and blue costumes. I mean during the short in game movies of course.

I love the way they did Spider-Man in Marvel Nemesis and Web of Shadows as well. I like the Blue-with-a-hint-of-Grey sort of colour. I've never been a big fan of the bright blue on the costume, I think darker definately looks better but thats just my personal preference.

Ajendo
01-09-2011, 03:59 PM
http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/spiderman111/USM111CvrA.jpg

Ajendo
01-09-2011, 04:00 PM
I love the way they did Spider-Man in Marvel Nemesis and Web of Shadows as well. I like the Blue-with-a-hint-of-Grey sort of colour. I've never been a big fan of the bright blue on the costume, I think darker definately looks better but thats just my personal preference.

In shattered dimensions, the unlockable red and blue costume for the ultimate universe looks awesome but I can't find a screen cap of it anywhere.

craigdbfan
01-09-2011, 04:14 PM
If anything, it is to illicit a debate since everyone is so quick to knock down his opinions and while he gives his reasons and argument, others post facepalm images and discredit him in such ways without giving their own reasons.

I actually agree with NinjaCarm in relation to some of his points and his looks at other's opinions on the film he agrees with.

Wrong. This whole debate started on whether Action Man Spider-Man suit which was designed in an out skirt town off Beijing was appropriate for the reboot or any Spider-Man film for that matter. He then backed it up with saying Spider-Man needed more "grittiness" thinking that validated the design somehow. He then brought in TMNT out of left field as a justification and tried making it seem that everyone here hates TMNT when in fact its the ridiculousness in comparison which garnered the facepalm reactions.

Most people on here loved TMNT but making one note irrelevant and zany comparisons warrants one note reactions.

How is adding grittiness to Spider-Man thinking outside of the box when its become the norm in Hollywood to "grittitize" everything that needs refurbishing?

Is it really that hard to not understand why someone would be repelled by that costume?

Might have something to do with the costume used in the Raimi series, whether you like the movies or not it was one of the best, if not the best costume design both in concept and execution in superhero movie history. Ask anyone and they'll tell you it was one of the much better handled approaches to an iconic superhero's costume on film.

It was faithful, sleek, and magical seeing it in action. It was everything a Spider-Man fan could have asked for visually wise. That Action UltraMax Spider-Man bootleg made in unknown country design is repulsive and stomps on the integrity of Spider-Man if anything.

I can completely understand why someone would get a "WTF!?" reaction if that were actually what they were going for. Which I'm most certain they aren't, if "modern" or "high tech" was ever mentioned they probably mean that the costume design team along with Sony Imageworks are going about approaching the costume in terms of material and possible CGI to assist in color/shading.

People need a reminder every now and then on how great the Raimi costume was:

http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/spider-man-2_l.jpg

I'm sure Webb is a smart guy and will stay faithful and will only enhance or just go with a different style variant's from the plethora of costume design from the comics.

Using Raimi's design and the stronger designs from the comics as a base is the smart approach.

Scarlettess
01-09-2011, 04:16 PM
In shattered dimensions, the unlockable red and blue costume for the ultimate universe looks awesome but I can't find a screen cap of it anywhere.

oh you mean this one? its not a screen cap but its the only one i can find of it.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://doubleviking.cachefly.net/images/bamkapow/2010/08/12/manga-spider-man.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bamkapow.com/-spider-man-shattered-dimensions-costume-list-4761-p.html&usg=__JOoUxBZ6O5CseQOnx1N3AIEEvzQ=&h=266&w=150&sz=24&hl=en&start=20&zoom=1&tbnid=LuMRvE5K1bKlpM:&tbnh=135&tbnw=76&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMANGA%2BSPIDER-MAN%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1138%26bih%3D555%26gbv%3D2%2 6tbs%3Disch:10,490&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=575&ei=_DIqTZfnKZOE4Abc-aWqCg&oei=8DIqTb-0NciAhQffroi4Dg&esq=2&page=2&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:11,s:20&tx=33&ty=51&biw=1138&bih=555

If I remember right this is from the manga universe? It is a different take on the classic definately :awesome:

Ajendo
01-09-2011, 04:19 PM
oh you mean this one? its not a screen cap but its the only one i can find of it.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://doubleviking.cachefly.net/images/bamkapow/2010/08/12/manga-spider-man.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bamkapow.com/-spider-man-shattered-dimensions-costume-list-4761-p.html&usg=__JOoUxBZ6O5CseQOnx1N3AIEEvzQ=&h=266&w=150&sz=24&hl=en&start=20&zoom=1&tbnid=LuMRvE5K1bKlpM:&tbnh=135&tbnw=76&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMANGA%2BSPIDER-MAN%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1138%26bih%3D555%26gbv%3D2%2 6tbs%3Disch:10,490&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=575&ei=_DIqTZfnKZOE4Abc-aWqCg&oei=8DIqTb-0NciAhQffroi4Dg&esq=2&page=2&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:11,s:20&tx=33&ty=51&biw=1138&bih=555

If I remember right this is from the manga universe? It is a different take on the classic definately :awesome:

No not that one. The model is exactly the same as the symbiot for the usm universe except that it's simply the traditional red and blue version of it.

Scarlettess
01-09-2011, 04:23 PM
No not that one. The model is exactly the same as the symbiot for the usm universe except that it's simply the traditional red and blue version of it.

Oooh right. I didn't know you had that one as an unlockable on that game :huh:

Ajendo
01-09-2011, 04:29 PM
its this but red and blue

http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/19928/Andrew%20Garfield%20Ultimate%20Spider-Man.png

Scarlettess
01-09-2011, 04:37 PM
oooh :up: this is definately a great version of the black costume. I'm interested in the red and blue now in terms of how it looks in the game.

talking of ultimate i like the ultimate costume mark bagley did alot.

http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/18830/ultimatespiderman_2.jpg

LuisTX85
01-09-2011, 05:28 PM
http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/spiderman111/USM111CvrA.jpg

This movie is based heavily on the Ultimate Spidey universe from what I've read&heard,And so I would not be surprised IF that is the suit there going for!.

I would not mind!,I of course also would much prefer Alex Ross's styles of suits or Raimis's But still,I do not mind Ultimate's suit.....I just hope they make the eyes smaller and the black web's slightly bit darker!

A&W
01-09-2011, 07:10 PM
after these rescent spider-man games and arkham asylum it's pretty impressive how video game creators are pulling off these costumes.

storyteller
01-09-2011, 07:19 PM
I think its time to say what is on everyones minds..........CGI costume. Its the only next logical step.

Doctor Jones
01-09-2011, 07:30 PM
No. GL made sense for the CG costume. His does not nor does anyone else's. Martian Manhunter perhaps.

craigdbfan
01-09-2011, 07:33 PM
Costume always I say. I don't mind however post enhancements on the costume when it comes to coloring an shading appropriation. That's fine. IMO

But the actor/stunt must always be in the a fully designed costume. Thats one of the most iconic trademark of the character.

Whiskey Tango
01-09-2011, 08:09 PM
I think its time to say what is on everyones minds..........CGI costume. Its the only next logical step.

I brought that idea up a few months ago & I'm still pulling pitchforks and torches outta my ass. :awesome:

socool
01-09-2011, 08:11 PM
*throws pitchfork*

Why would the suit be in CGI? For what point? So that the spider on his chest can can spin and unspin the web design on his suit while his eyes change shape and size to match his emotions?

AGH! :cmad:

*throws pitchfork*

Whiskey Tango
01-09-2011, 08:12 PM
while his eyes change shape and size to match his emotions?

Just like he's been drawn in the comics for the last 50 years!

socool
01-09-2011, 08:13 PM
just like he's been drawn in the comics for the last 50 years!

*15

craigdbfan
01-09-2011, 08:15 PM
All those things I wouldn't mind at all. In fact I hope thats what they are looking at it right now.

An all CGI costume isn't necessary for that though.

With the appropriate motion capture points placed on certain parts of the costume they can later easily change or augment in post.

Really hope Sony Imageworks is going to step up their practical/CGI melding for SM4.

socool
01-09-2011, 08:16 PM
All those things I wouldn't mind at all. In fact I hope thats what they are looking at it right now.

An all CGI costume isn't necessary for that though.

With the appropriate motion capture points placed on certain parts of the costume they can later easily change or augment in post.

Really hope Sony Imageworks is going to step up their practical/CGI melding for SM4.

My sarcasm meter didnt awol on me there.

craigdbfan
01-09-2011, 08:17 PM
My sarcasm meter didnt awol on me there.

No sir. ;) :up:

Whiskey Tango
01-09-2011, 08:20 PM
All those things I wouldn't mind at all. In fact I hope thats what they are looking at it right now.

An all CGI costume isn't necessary for that though.

With the appropriate motion capture points placed on certain parts of the costume they can later easily change or augment in post.

Really hope Sony Imageworks is going to step up their practical/CGI melding for SM4.

I do think they could do some really cool effects without the whole suit being cg. The half Parker-face/half-spidey face thing when his spider sense goes off, slightly altering the size of his eyes to reflect his mood, etc.

It might look awful, but it also might turn out really cool. Doing the suit completely in cgi would be overkill tho, I agree.

rcazzy
01-09-2011, 08:44 PM
Wrong. This whole debate started on whether Action Man Spider-Man suit which was designed in an out skirt town off Beijing was appropriate for the reboot or any Spider-Man film for that matter. He then backed it up with saying Spider-Man needed more "grittiness" thinking that validated the design somehow. He then brought in TMNT out of left field as a justification and tried making it seem that everyone here hates TMNT when in fact its the ridiculousness in comparison which garnered the facepalm reactions.

Most people on here loved TMNT but making one note irrelevant and zany comparisons warrants one note reactions.

I don't necessarily agree with his wording of 'grittiness', but I look at it in terms of simplicity. The suit is simple, adding hits of construction or how it's made lends itself to the imagination, I find. It was lacking a bit in Raimi's films. The restrictive feel of the costume was a big cause of that for me too, It was like 'why so tight?' as a looser or not so professional spandex would have done. That is not to say I don't want loose fitting, just a feeling of possibility or plausibility (note: not out and out realism, dirtto for possible web shooters.)
I know that the Acheson suit was great, but I think it could be better and get the feeling of Spidey more.

As for TMNT, it was 'gritty', I guess, but still pretty much camp, an example of the two worlds colliding. The appliance, as I saw it was just that visuals don't only make the tone ad that people recognise the qualities behind the film.. Raimi's take on Ditko Spidey did it great in 1 and 2 lost it on three with too much of the gritty themes not suiting the film series thus far, but I can't blame him completely for that.

Chris Wallace
01-10-2011, 07:07 AM
Can't go wrong with Alex Ross.

His early design for the first movie along with his design for Bucky/Cap say otherwise.

Brian Braddock
01-10-2011, 11:19 AM
Yup - all black with a triangle of signature motif; lazy as hell. For such a reputedly staunch traditionalist, Ross didnt have a problem throwing out the old designs, eh?

roach
01-10-2011, 01:12 PM
Yup - all black with a triangle of signature motif; lazy as hell. For such a reputedly staunch traditionalist, Ross didnt have a problem throwing out the old designs, eh?

which he recycled into his Bucky Cap costume

Brian Braddock
01-10-2011, 01:16 PM
Exactly, Roach.

RustyCage
01-10-2011, 01:36 PM
Really hope Sony Imageworks is going to step up their practical/CGI melding for SM4.

Oh geez. Are we going to start calling this SM4 now? :oldrazz: Stan, what have you done?

Spider-X
01-10-2011, 02:16 PM
so...what exactly do we know (from a proven source) about the costume that will be used in the movie at this point?

RustyCage
01-10-2011, 02:23 PM
so...what exactly do we know (from a proven source) about the costume that will be used in the movie at this point?

We know that Andrew Garfield thinks it's 'tight and airy'.

Spider-X
01-10-2011, 02:28 PM
ok...spidey's costume is always tight...this is a good start i suppose...seriously, is that all we got?

Spider-Boy
01-10-2011, 04:38 PM
ok...spidey's costume is always tight...this is a good start i suppose...seriously, is that all we got?

The suspense of the suit is killing the majority of us. They won't reveal anything on the suit until at least May or June, that's the approximate time in respect that they released Thor's costume. SIGH*:csad:

roach
01-10-2011, 04:39 PM
what would be hilarious is after all this debate and fuss over the costume they just recreate the Raimi suit

NinjaCarm
01-10-2011, 04:42 PM
what would be hilarious is after all this debate and fuss over the costume they just recreate the Raimi suit

I sure hope not. That would be an oversight of monumental proportions.

Spider-Boy
01-10-2011, 04:43 PM
what would be hilarious is after all this debate and fuss over the costume they just recreate the Raimi suit

The general public would be too confused. They have to differentiate one way or another. Webb wants his own Spider-Man, not Rami's. Visually, there will definitely be an obvious change, there has to be... Doesn't there? :ninja:

roach
01-10-2011, 04:45 PM
Wasnt much of a difference between the Burton/Shumacher suits and the Nolan suits

Spider-Boy
01-10-2011, 04:48 PM
Wasnt much of a difference between the Burton/Shumacher suits and the Nolan suits

Does this mean Spider-Man will have nipples?

roach
01-10-2011, 04:49 PM
I would hope he has nipples...just not on the suit

Scarlettess
01-10-2011, 04:51 PM
Wasnt much of a difference between the Burton/Shumacher suits and the Nolan suits

Maybe the suit in Batman Begins, but The TDK suit was different than anything we've seen before, in any of the movies.

If the movie's a reboot than going with a totally different version of the costume would probably be the way to go, and the best if they dont want to wildly confuse the public in thinking it is in fact a Spider-Man 4.

Spider-Boy
01-10-2011, 04:52 PM
I would hope he has nipples...just not on the suit

It was implied...

Spider-Boy
01-10-2011, 04:52 PM
Maybe the suit in Batman Begins, but The TDK suit was different than anything we've seen before, in any of the movies.

If the movie's a reboot than going with a totally different version of the costume would probably be the way to go, and the best if they dont want to wildly confuse the public in thinking it is in fact a Spider-Man 4.

He's right you know. After all, he wasn't just wearing "hockey pads". ;)

roach
01-10-2011, 04:55 PM
How do we know its gonna confuse people???
Im pretty sure the whole different cast clues the GA into this being a different take on Spiderman.

Scarlettess
01-10-2011, 05:10 PM
How do we know its gonna confuse people???
Im pretty sure the whole different cast clues the GA into this being a different take on Spiderman.

We don't, that's why i said if and that was if they use a similar one to Raimi's. Why have a different cast and crew, if your gonna have a really similar looking costume? why not just have a completely different costume? Though Spider-Man is Spider-Man, you can only change it so much, but the same goes for any superhero like Batman or Superman.

NinjaCarm
01-10-2011, 05:45 PM
I am astounded that some people would actually want the previous Spider-Man suit and even actors (JK Simmons, for instance) back in this REBOOT.

It's a fresh different take that is not the prior version. It's utterly ridiculous to even contemplate it.

Using the same suits / actors is not how make a reboot. It's perpoustrous.

ironwez20
01-10-2011, 05:46 PM
it would be funny if it was a pair of red black lined skinny jeans, a tight red spider shirt and a red skull mask and red socks. You know somthing for the children. A more hip spidey. lol jk

Doctor Jones
01-10-2011, 05:47 PM
I think we should just pretend there will be nipples on the suit and have our 10 page fight right now to get it over with so we can be clear once the real suit arrives.

roach
01-10-2011, 05:48 PM
I am astounded that some people would actually want the previous Spider-Man suit and even actors (JK Simmons, for instance) back in this REBOOT.

It's a fresh different take that is not the prior version. It's utterly ridiculous to even contemplate it.

Using the same suits / actors is not how make a reboot. It's perpoustrous.

and you are basing this on what?
I am not calling for the same suit...i said that as a joke but since you are proclaiming to be an expert on what to do in reboots then you must have some sort of information that you can point to that if you reboot and use the same costume as the original it would be bad?

roach
01-10-2011, 05:50 PM
I think we should just pretend there will be nipples on the suit and have our 10 page fight right now to get it over with so we can be clear once the real suit arrives.

sweet....RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE:woot:

Whiskey Tango
01-10-2011, 05:52 PM
I think we should just pretend there will be nipples on the suit and have our 10 page fight right now to get it over with so we can be clear once the real suit arrives.

Maybe he'll fire his webs from his nips too!

roach
01-10-2011, 05:53 PM
Lets put armor on the suit too in case someone might try to shoot him

Scarlettess
01-10-2011, 05:55 PM
I am astounded that some people would actually want the previous Spider-Man suit and even actors (JK Simmons, for instance) back in this REBOOT.

It's a fresh different take that is not the prior version. It's utterly ridiculous to even contemplate it.

Using the same suits / actors is not how make a reboot. It's perpoustrous.

:up: Thank Yoooouuu. Its rediculous that they wouldn't change the costume to go with the reboot, kind of degrades the point of a reboot if you ask me, considering the costume is to the general public the most recognisable aspect of the character to them.

NinjaCarm
01-10-2011, 05:56 PM
and you are basing this on what?
I am not calling for the same suit...i said that as a joke but since you are proclaiming to be an expert on what to do in reboots then you must have some sort of information that you can point to that if you reboot and use the same costume as the original it would be bad?

Once again Roach you think it's all about you. No where in my statement did I mention you specifically. It was an all encompassing vague statement.

And yes, I would say I know how to differentiate between two things. Using the same suits / actors is NOT the way to go about a REBOOT.

I would imagine MANY would agree on that statement. Make a survey on it.

roach
01-10-2011, 05:57 PM
:up: Thank Yoooouuu. Its rediculous that they wouldn't change the costume to go with the reboot, kind of degrades the point of a reboot if you ask me, considering the costume is to the general public the most recognisable aspect of the character to them.

jeesus people relax...it was a joke

roach
01-10-2011, 05:58 PM
Once again Roach you think it's all about you.

Let me clue you in to a secret...it is all about me....you are all in my dream and its really only 1977...its an Inception...bawwwwwwwnnnnnnnn:woot:

Mrpaul
01-10-2011, 05:59 PM
Still waiting to see Andrew in the costume

Scarlettess
01-10-2011, 05:59 PM
jeesus people relax...it was a joke

it wasn't a point-a-finger at you roach, just my view/opinion on the subject. Raimi's suit was great, but it would be nice to see something very different.

Whiskey Tango
01-10-2011, 06:00 PM
jeesus people relax...it was a joke

http://i55.tinypic.com/4dv6p.jpg

:awesome:

NinjaCarm
01-10-2011, 06:02 PM
it wasn't a point-a-finger at you roach, just my view/opinion on the subject. Raimi's suit was great, but it would be nice to see something very different.

Exactly.

roach
01-10-2011, 06:03 PM
it wasn't a point-a-finger at you roach, just my view/opinion on the subject. Raimi's suit was great, but it would be nice to see something very different.

i took it that was since I was the one to say "Wouldnt it be funny if after all this debate about the costume they just used the Raimi one"

NinjaCarm
01-10-2011, 06:08 PM
When will we some kinda pic??

Scarlettess
01-10-2011, 06:13 PM
i took it that was since I was the one to say "Wouldnt it be funny if after all this debate about the costume they just used the Raimi one"

Actually I didn't even remember that comment lol Apologies if it seemed that way, but I in no way intended it to be.

Scarlettess
01-10-2011, 06:15 PM
When will we some kinda pic??

People seem to be saying May/June, but I hope its sooner. They sure know how to tease us hey?

NinjaCarm
01-10-2011, 06:17 PM
People seem to be saying May/June, but I hope its sooner. They sure know how to tease us hey?

Tell me about it :csad:

craigdbfan
01-10-2011, 06:18 PM
We'll probably be getting some concept art leaked at some point.

NinjaCarm
01-10-2011, 06:28 PM
We'll probably be getting some concept art leaked at some point.

If some fan went really nuts they could go through the whole art / production dept on IMDB and google the artists and viola?

I ain't, lol

craigdbfan
01-10-2011, 06:29 PM
With the plethora of film blogs these days you don't have to.

Spider-ManHero12
01-10-2011, 07:46 PM
We'll probably be getting some concept art leaked at some point. Here's hoping, lol.

rcazzy
01-10-2011, 07:54 PM
If some fan went really nuts they could go through the whole art / production dept on IMDB and google the artists and viola?

I ain't, lol

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-sowa9IPRvU/TC4AdYPQxGI/AAAAAAAAAi0/UhnyAdHIGcY/s1600/Viola.jpg

:p

NinjaCarm
01-10-2011, 08:10 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-sowa9IPRvU/TC4AdYPQxGI/AAAAAAAAAi0/UhnyAdHIGcY/s1600/Viola.jpg

:p

http://rlv.zcache.com/funny_fear_the_violins_t_shirt-p235052266431068673u34v_400.jpg

spidermanJLA!~
01-10-2011, 08:32 PM
No, THIS is the way to go! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO-gEjeBHcQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIsnEzqZSrE&feature=related

Spider-Boy
01-10-2011, 11:33 PM
No, THIS is the way to go! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO-gEjeBHcQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIsnEzqZSrE&feature=related

Isn't that the teaser trailer for The Avengers in 2012?!?! :wow:

Eggyman
01-11-2011, 03:37 AM
Just adding to the previous debate, whether it was a joke or not: I do think they'll make a new suit to a certain extent, and I want them to (small changes like eyes and web colour and maybe different tones to the red and blue), BUT the build of the person wearing the suit will change its dynamics a lot. If they did use the Raimi suit, it'd still look quite different because Toby and his doubles all had a small-but-built frame, whereas Garfield is much more lanky and would add a whole different look to the character.

NinjaCarm
01-11-2011, 09:01 AM
No, THIS is the way to go! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO-gEjeBHcQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIsnEzqZSrE&feature=related

Yeah, those are great top notch Halloween costumes, but IMO not for a $100 million dollar film of one of the greatest fictional characters of our time.:woot:

Ajendo
01-11-2011, 02:03 PM
http://wikicheats.gametrailers.com/images/e/e0/MUA2_SpiderMan.jpg

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID4095/images/MUA2.jpg

Eggyman
01-11-2011, 02:07 PM
Hey, th^t looks just like Spider-Man!

Ajendo
01-11-2011, 02:10 PM
No kidding!

Eggyman
01-11-2011, 02:15 PM
I don't like the fingers and the 'Activision' is a little too white.

ModestMr.Green
01-11-2011, 02:18 PM
I really hate this thing they're doing with Venom's eyes lately. Looks so wonky.

RustyCage
01-11-2011, 02:54 PM
I really hate this thing they're doing with Venom's eyes lately. Looks so wonky.

I agree. Maybe not so oddly, it reminds me a lot of how Bane's eyes have changed. It's curious how the two parallel each other - seems to be intentional, even.

Ajendo
01-11-2011, 02:59 PM
who gives a crap about venom. I just hope spidey's costume turns ou looking awesome.

RustyCage
01-11-2011, 03:07 PM
who gives a crap about venom.

Do you really want fans here to respond to that question?

Scarlettess
01-11-2011, 03:27 PM
Don't know if this has already been posted but it was James Carson's concept design for Spider-Man's Webshooter, pretty cool if you ask me. http://www.jamescarsondesign.com/images/subject/Props/36_lg.jpg

Immortalfire
01-11-2011, 03:27 PM
http://wikicheats.gametrailers.com/images/e/e0/MUA2_SpiderMan.jpg


What's that in his eye? :wow::wow::wow:

RustyCage
01-11-2011, 03:35 PM
Don't know if this has already been posted but it was James Carson's concept design for Spider-Man's Webshooter, pretty cool if you ask me. http://www.jamescarsondesign.com/images/subject/Props/36_lg.jpg

I always loved this. :up: :up:

Looks like it only holds the one cartridge in use though, were they thinking he had a utility belt kinda thing?

Eggyman
01-11-2011, 03:39 PM
What's that in his eye? :wow::wow::wow:

The twinkle of Spider-Boy.

Ajendo
01-11-2011, 03:50 PM
Do you really want fans here to respond to that question?

The point I was making was to keep things on topic. I don't want to read or discuss venom in this thread. There are other threads to do all of that in.

Pumpkin_Bomb
01-11-2011, 03:50 PM
I always loved this. :up: :up:

Looks like it only holds the one cartridge in use though, were they thinking he had a utility belt kinda thing?

The original idea, from what I've heard, is that that was supposed to allow him more control over his webs rather than actually being the source of them. He'd still have had organics on the Raimi series.

superkong 500
01-11-2011, 04:14 PM
I hope we get rounder lenses similar to the ones in the UA video game spidey. Oh and black lense outlines and black webbing.

Alchemyst
01-11-2011, 04:33 PM
Don't know if this has already been posted but it was James Carson's concept design for Spider-Man's Webshooter, pretty cool if you ask me. http://www.jamescarsondesign.com/images/subject/Props/36_lg.jpg

I remember that pic, I hope they run with that for the film

RustyCage
01-11-2011, 04:49 PM
The point I was making was to keep things on topic. I don't want to read or discuss venom in this thread. There are other threads to do all of that in.

I agree, but you could have gone about it in a less demeaning way.

NinjaCarm
01-11-2011, 05:03 PM
Let me squash this right now, Venom got the banana in SM3, big time.

Meanwhile, I prefer webshooters and spider tracers this time around!

Doctor Jones
01-11-2011, 06:53 PM
I like that web shooter concept. And I like the look of his gloves with that web design.

I prefer no web tracers. It's too Batman like for me.

Scarlettess
01-11-2011, 08:31 PM
I like that web shooter concept. And I like the look of his gloves with that web design.

There I was about to point out the gloves.:woot: I love that design he did for the gloves, it be cool to see something like that on the costume.

I prefer no web tracers. It's too Batman like for me.

What about his Spider-Signal? :oldrazz:

Ultimate Doom
01-11-2011, 08:41 PM
Lets not forget the Spider-Mobile
http://www.samruby.com/Spiderverse/Spidermobile/SpidermobileSpidey.gif
This thing was ridiculous lol

craigdbfan
01-11-2011, 08:46 PM
Lets not forget the Spider-Mobile
http://www.samruby.com/Spiderverse/Spidermobile/SpidermobileSpidey.gif
This thing was ridiculous lol

Yeah, ridiculously awesome.

spidermanJLA!~
01-11-2011, 10:22 PM
Yeah, those are great top notch Halloween costumes, but IMO not for a $100 million dollar film of one of the greatest fictional characters of our time.:woot:


LOL! You don't think I was serious do you? Those costumes only work at conventions, fan made movies, and as you can see, commercials.

NinjaCarm
01-11-2011, 10:25 PM
LOL! You don't think I was serious do you? Those costumes only work at conventions, fan made movies, and as you can see, commercials.

No I didn't seriously! :P: LOL:woot::woot::woot:

ModestMr.Green
01-11-2011, 10:41 PM
Don't know if this has already been posted but it was James Carson's concept design for Spider-Man's Webshooter, pretty cool if you ask me. http://www.jamescarsondesign.com/images/subject/Props/36_lg.jpg

Looks like a robotic tampon on top of a watch.

socool
01-11-2011, 10:44 PM
Looks like a robotic tampon on top of a watch.

:dry:

Wha-? How? Why?

:doh:

craigdbfan
01-11-2011, 10:45 PM
Really hope they go organic actually. The building the web shooters seem to contrived on film.

Although if they've figured out a convincing way to justify them I'm not against them.

Different design though from the comics. Hate to say this but a Hollywood slickshine wouldn't do it harm.

LegendaryCaleb
01-11-2011, 11:19 PM
Looks like a robotic tampon on top of a watch.

Wow....................:doh:

mre
01-12-2011, 01:14 AM
lol Robotic tampon!

Majik1387
01-12-2011, 01:20 AM
Looks like a robotic tampon on top of a watch.
:lmao:

Chiroptera
01-12-2011, 02:07 AM
Looks like a robotic tampon on top of a watch.


http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp205/rJs_photos/spiderman-facepalm.jpg

Ultimate Doom
01-12-2011, 02:23 AM
I actually like the robotic tampon shooters

Galactus123
01-12-2011, 02:55 AM
Should Spidey have the Spider-Singal on his belt?
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:nGBFKDxqlPlw2M:http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z261/richbob2/asm6-jjj.jpg?t=1231911226&t=1

http://comiccoverage.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345158e369e200e553b4d79a8834-320wi

Hurm...
01-12-2011, 06:29 AM
No....No, he shouldn't. That would be stupid to see on screen IMO.

Brian Braddock
01-12-2011, 06:37 AM
Looks like a robotic tampon on top of a watch.

:awesome:

A psychologist would have a field day with that statement.

Anywhoo - any Bond fans on here? If so, remember the dart wristwatch from Moonraker?

http://www.freewebs.com/scaramangasgoldengun/mor25.jpg

Whenever I've seen that, its always said Spidey Webshooter to me (in a distinctly retro kind of a way)

Moj1986
01-12-2011, 09:27 AM
Looks like a robotic tampon on top of a watch.

Quick thought: if Peter Parker was so smart that he could create small wrist mounted mechanisms that project a compact thread, that was stickier that pretty much anything on the market and stronger than most materials...why did he choose to make money by wrestling. Why not invent and sell his patternted products?

Eggyman
01-12-2011, 09:42 AM
Quick thought: if Peter Parker was so smart that he could create small wrist mounted mechanisms that project a compact thread, that was stickier that pretty much anything on the market and stronger than most materials...why did he choose to make money by wrestling. Why not invent and sell his patternted products?

Because a superhero comic called Spider-Man would sell more than: Peter Parker The Billionaire Science Nerd With Sticky Fingers.

It'd make a great What If, though.

ModestMr.Green
01-12-2011, 09:44 AM
Because a superhero comic called Spider-Man would sell more than: Peter Parker The Billionaire Science Nerd With Sticky Fingers.

It'd make a great What If, though.

I dunno, Richie Rich was pretty popular.

Eggyman
01-12-2011, 09:57 AM
I dunno, Richie Rich was pretty popular.

Not as popular as Spidey. Not even close.

Ajendo
01-12-2011, 10:08 AM
spider-tracers and the awful spidey signal is heading right back to Raimi territory and even he at least had the good sense not to go down that route.

El Payaso
01-12-2011, 12:37 PM
Quick thought: if Peter Parker was so smart that he could create small wrist mounted mechanisms that project a compact thread, that was stickier that pretty much anything on the market and stronger than most materials...why did he choose to make money by wrestling. Why not invent and sell his patternted products?

Yes. Why doesn't Bruce Wayne just enjoy his money and forget about crime?

Scarlettess
01-12-2011, 01:34 PM
Should Spidey have the Spider-Singal on his belt?
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:nGBFKDxqlPlw2M:http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z261/richbob2/asm6-jjj.jpg?t=1231911226&t=1

http://comiccoverage.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345158e369e200e553b4d79a8834-320wi

Yeah, because people will never think he's a rip off of Batman then :doh:

No Spider-Signal or Spider-Mobile. I never saw the piont of the Spider Mobile in the first place, when you can web-swing everywhere. :huh:

Milu
01-12-2011, 02:01 PM
:lmao:
I second that. :funny:

Spider-Aziz
01-12-2011, 03:22 PM
Yeah, because people will never think he's a rip off of Batman then :doh:

No Spider-Signal or Spider-Mobile. I never saw the piont of the Spider Mobile in the first place, when you can web-swing everywhere. :huh:
He was to help advertise and build a green car for Corona Motors, not something for him to really use

El Payaso
01-12-2011, 03:25 PM
Yeah, because people will never think he's a rip off of Batman then :doh:

No Spider-Signal or Spider-Mobile. I never saw the piont of the Spider Mobile in the first place, when you can web-swing everywhere. :huh:

Nonsense. We need that AND the spider-cave!

craigdbfan
01-12-2011, 03:26 PM
Uncle Ben should return as a butler in ghost form.

Cosmic
01-12-2011, 03:35 PM
Quick thought: if Peter Parker was so smart that he could create small wrist mounted mechanisms that project a compact thread, that was stickier that pretty much anything on the market and stronger than most materials...why did he choose to make money by wrestling. Why not invent and sell his patternted products?IIRC, he tried to sell it, but the web fluid was viewed as a faulty product because it dissolved quickly.

Spider-Aziz
01-12-2011, 03:46 PM
http://www.ipbrief.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/SpiderMan.jpg
I really hope they stick to this design, cause I'm getting chills about the possibly used costume with a zipper in the shirt

Spider-ManHero12
01-12-2011, 04:07 PM
He was to help advertise and build a green car for Corona Motors, not something for him to really use Yeah. Lol, I still lol at how The Tinkerer modified it to attack Spidey.

Pac-Master
01-12-2011, 04:12 PM
I really hope they stick to this design, cause I'm getting chills about the possibly used costume with a zipper in the shirt
It was fan made.

Scarlettess
01-12-2011, 08:12 PM
He was to help advertise and build a green car for Corona Motors, not something for him to really use

Ahh thanks for clearing that up.

Nonsense. We need that AND the spider-cave!

:funny:

Galactus123
01-13-2011, 03:57 AM
Yeah, because people will never think he's a rip off of Batman then :doh:

No Spider-Signal or Spider-Mobile. I never saw the piont of the Spider Mobile in the first place, when you can web-swing everywhere. :huh:
Spider-Man needs his Spider Mecha from the japanese tv show
http://tokin4thought.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/leopardon.jpg

:woot:

b_cas_8907
01-13-2011, 10:44 AM
Spider-Man needs his Spider Mecha from the japanese tv show
http://tokin4thought.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/leopardon.jpg

:woot:

hahaha

Scarlettess
01-13-2011, 11:03 AM
Spider-Man needs his Spider Mecha from the japanese tv show
http://tokin4thought.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/leopardon.jpg

:woot:

:funny: Looks like the worse power ranger morpher I've ever seen (or whatever they're called) :o

Immortalfire
01-13-2011, 11:11 AM
Zord.

RustyCage
01-13-2011, 11:34 AM
Looks like a robotic tampon on top of a watch.

:pal::funny::lmao::lmao::lmao::bow:

I loved the design, but I'm about to cry from laughing!! :wall::lmao:

Well done, sir.

b_cas_8907
01-13-2011, 12:13 PM
Peter should have a morpher that he dramatically holds out front of his body, screaming "SPIDER"!! He will then appear as if he is in a crazy, LSD induced, trippy, black hole as the suit forms itself around his body. :wow:

Majik1387
01-13-2011, 12:20 PM
Spider-man and Power Ranger crossover? :wow:



:oldrazz:

b_cas_8907
01-13-2011, 12:25 PM
Yea, I'm glad somebody got the reference! haha

ModestMr.Green
01-13-2011, 12:41 PM
Peter should have a morpher that he dramatically holds out front of his body, screaming "SPIDER"!! He will then appear as if he is in a crazy, LSD induced, trippy, black hole as the suit forms itself around his body. :wow:

Sounds like Unlimited.

b_cas_8907
01-13-2011, 12:52 PM
Sounds like Unlimited.

Nanobots...they are the key to this movie's success. :dry:

ModestMr.Green
01-13-2011, 02:10 PM
Nanobots...they are the key to this movie's success. :dry:

Hey, it worked for G.I. Joe.

Enlil
01-13-2011, 02:11 PM
1ST SPIDEY SUIT PIC:


http://www.cinewebradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1869:premiere-photo-de-spider-man&catid=29:the-news&Itemid=41

socool
01-13-2011, 02:14 PM
Here you go ;)

http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/garfieldspiderman%281%29.jpg

Figs
01-13-2011, 02:15 PM
I like it, but then again I'm not much of a nitpicker.

Sam Fisher
01-13-2011, 02:16 PM
Well, it's a interesting look, that's for sure.

ModestMr.Green
01-13-2011, 02:16 PM
I'd like to think this warrants a new thread. Presenting, the Spider suit...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/wallyflash/garfieldspiderman1.jpg

The tasteful subtlety of the webbing. The extended spider legs. I really like this. A great update on the classic Spider suit. Plus, we seem to be getting mechanical webshooters this time. (Note the little round things on his wrists, right next to the webbing bands.) Now if we can just get our eyes on that mask.

Major league buttkicking is back in town.

RustyCage
01-13-2011, 02:19 PM
Oh hell yes. :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

Looks like he took a beating... That's SUCH an atmospheric shot! The emotion is really effectively shown in his face too.

LostSon88
01-13-2011, 02:21 PM
I like it. Its different enough from Tobey's but still has the classic look.

spidermanJLA!~
01-13-2011, 02:21 PM
That crappy suit better be fake. It is fake right?

Galactus123
01-13-2011, 02:22 PM
I don't know what to say. I can't decide if I like it or not. :dry:

Eggyman
01-13-2011, 02:22 PM
I'm pleased. The mask wil be the decider.

LostSon88
01-13-2011, 02:22 PM
Dude, its on the SHH homepage.

socool
01-13-2011, 02:23 PM
@spidermanJLA

What do you think :whatever:

Of course not. What's wrong? I mean, I can see how sticklers for the classics could be disappointed but as for as imaginings go; this is one of the better ones.

Majik1387
01-13-2011, 02:23 PM
I like it.:up:

About time the Spidey physique was done correctly.:up:

BenReilly
01-13-2011, 02:23 PM
I love it.

Looks different enough to distinguish if from the previous live-action version, but still retains the classic and iconic Spider-Man look.

Very cool. :up:

ModestMr.Green
01-13-2011, 02:24 PM
Looks like he took a beating...

Claw marks. :up:

That's SUCH an atmospheric shot! The emotion is really effectively shown in his face too.

Indeed. I could easily see this being one of the closing shots of the first trailer.

ultimatefan
01-13-2011, 02:24 PM
It looks a bit weird to me. I know that they wanted something different from the Sam Raimi costumes, but I don´t quite get some of the choices there, particularly the chest spider. I´ll wait and see more pics to make a final judgement.

Aesop Rocks
01-13-2011, 02:24 PM
And now the grown men start to cry! CAN'T WAIT.

Wams
01-13-2011, 02:24 PM
I ain't feelin it.
He couldn't have made that suit...
It's even more complicated than the Rami suits.:doh:


Oh well...

ultimatefan
01-13-2011, 02:24 PM
It looks a bit weird to me. I know that they wanted something different from the Sam Raimi costumes, but I don´t quite get some of the choices there, particularly the chest spider. I´ll wait and see more pics to make a final judgement.

One thing is for sure, in the "who´s more true to the comics" battle, Sam Raimi so far wins the costume round.

spidermanJLA!~
01-13-2011, 02:25 PM
Okay I am overreacting. Its actually pretty nice.

Blackman
01-13-2011, 02:25 PM
IS this real?

If it is it looks good

sdc10
01-13-2011, 02:26 PM
Im kind of indifferent about it right now, I do however miss the red on his waist tho

Randal Graves
01-13-2011, 02:26 PM
IS this real?

If it is it looks good
Yep.

GhostPoet
01-13-2011, 02:26 PM
I can't make any judgements without a mask.

SpeterMan3
01-13-2011, 02:26 PM
I don't know what to say. I can't decide if I like it or not. :dry:
Same here :dry:

Figs
01-13-2011, 02:26 PM
I wonder if those rumours are true about the Lizard being the main villian. His cheek has what looks like two cuts, it looks like it could be claw marks. That's just a random guess of course.

ReTrO JuNkIe 42
01-13-2011, 02:27 PM
there is red on the waist but its in the shadow

RustyCage
01-13-2011, 02:27 PM
I ain't feelin it.
He couldn't have made that suit...
It's even more complicated than the Rami suits.:doh:


Oh well...


Maybe he didn't?

antsman41
01-13-2011, 02:28 PM
I love it...

different: check
cool: check
looks classic: check

dark_b
01-13-2011, 02:29 PM
it was smart to make the suit very different from the Raimi suit.

how it looks? lets whait for a new pic.

Mister J
01-13-2011, 02:29 PM
That's (claw marks=Lizard?) the impression I got. Could just be a coincidence, but I can hope.

Citadel30
01-13-2011, 02:30 PM
edit

RustyCage
01-13-2011, 02:30 PM
Claw marks. :up:

So I noticed! There are some wider, similar marks on the chest.. but they're surrounded by black - burns?

Also there's some kinda mud or sludge on the costume and his hair looks pretty wet... ;)

Indeed. I could easily see this being one of the closing shots of the first trailer.

Yes please. :wow::hrt:

Conebone69
01-13-2011, 02:30 PM
I love it...

different: check
cool: check
looks classic: check

Totally agree!! Now as long as the mask is cool

spidermanJLA!~
01-13-2011, 02:31 PM
@spidermanJLA

What do you think :whatever:

Of course not. What's wrong? I mean, I can see how sticklers for the classics could be disappointed but as for as imaginings go; this is one of the better ones.

Thanks for the reality check. Now that I look at it, it is pretty cool.:yay:

sdc10
01-13-2011, 02:31 PM
there is red on the waist but its in the shadow

Yes but I wouldve liked it to extend more to the front

ModestMr.Green
01-13-2011, 02:31 PM
I ain't feelin it.
He couldn't have made that suit...
It's even more complicated than the Rami suits.:doh:


Oh well...

I wouldn't say it's overly complicated. The red portions look like some sort of mesh substance laid over a blue body suit.

King K
01-13-2011, 02:31 PM
Looks amazing. Very raw, as if someone amatuer made it. I love it.

FilmNerdJamie
01-13-2011, 02:32 PM
It's recognizable enough to the classic Spider-Man motif but still different from the Tobey design. Very very good job.

Paste Pot Pete
01-13-2011, 02:32 PM
Lookin' good!

It's about what I was expecting/hoping for. I knew they would have to change it up slightly just to set it apart from the first trilogy, but how do you mess with perfection? It's just altered enough to be satisfying.

The lack of red waist is going to take some getting used to; the way the red points down is vaguely phallic. :wow: Gonna have to train my eyes to ignore that, haha.

Love the gloves and LOVE the spider. Can't wait to see the mask.

ViciousValentin
01-13-2011, 02:32 PM
definitely going Ultimate which is perfect. Big eyes on the mask and really weird contorts when he swings A VERY SOLID STORY and I wont even consider Raimis Spiderman anymore......

Citadel30
01-13-2011, 02:32 PM
Here you go ;)

http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/garfieldspiderman%281%29.jpg

anyone else notice the shiny "knobs" on his wrists?

i love the new look. We need a mask!

Eggyman
01-13-2011, 02:33 PM
I was a bit stunned at first and didn't know what to think, but, really, I love it now it's sunk in. There's minor differences around the glove area, but the webbing... O wow the webbing lol. LOVE the subtle webbing, black, which is actually indented rather than raised. The mask will seal the deal.

A Necessary Evil
01-13-2011, 02:33 PM
I like it. Gotta see the mask though. Hopefully it isn't crap.

SkullDevil217
01-13-2011, 02:34 PM
Wow, just wow! That suit looks so cool. They updated it and yet they mantained the same look. Very different from the Raimi films, however I am still waiting to see the mask.

A Necessary Evil
01-13-2011, 02:34 PM
I like it. Gotta see the mask though. Hopefully it isn't crap.

SkullDevil217
01-13-2011, 02:35 PM
I'd like to think this warrants a new thread. Presenting, the Spider suit...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/wallyflash/garfieldspiderman1.jpg

The tasteful subtlety of the webbing. The extended spider legs. I really like this. A great update on the classic Spider suit. Plus, there seem to be mechanical webshooters in play. (Note the little round things on his wrists, right next to the webbing bands.) Now if we can just get our eyes on that mask.

Major league buttkicking is back in town.
Wow, just wow! That suitt looks so cool. They updated it and yet they mantained the same look. Very different from the Raimi films :up:

Symbiotic
01-13-2011, 02:35 PM
I'm bummed it's not a full shot with mask, but I can dig it.

Saint
01-13-2011, 02:37 PM
Wow. That's different. After the initial shock, I like this a lot. It's just different enough. So long as they don't screw up the mask, I think we're in business.

I am curious as to how much of the rougher, grungy look is the from the beating he's taken and how much is the suit itself. I like the extended legs on the spider, and I'd love to see how that logo looks when it hasn't had the crap beat out of it.

The best part about this suit is that they didn't go overboard with padded muscles. Garfield wearing this suit has a lighter build than Tobey appeared to have, and looks just about perfect for Spider-Man. Good stuff.