Spider-Man Reboot Costume

[Octoberist]

But he has Spider-Sense!

[Danalys]

Anyone else think we'll be in for a 'surprise' once the lower-half and back of the suit is fully revealed? I just have a gut feeling there will be a lot more redesigning going on. Especially with the small glimpses of red stripes on his leg and the angular points around the waist.

Many have already commented on the mask making/breaking their thoughts on the suit, but we've honestly have barely seen half of the entire thing.

I don't think that is red on the leg it's the reflection of the hand. you can see blue reflected on the other hand.

[Boom]

I find it ironic how they talked about needing to conceal Garfield's bulge, only to have a giant red dick on his chest...pointing to his actual dick.
:lmao:

[Lone]

How is it faithful? Red, blue, spider emblem...check. Does that make a costume faithful? Eh. It looks absolutely nothing like Ultimate or 616 so I don't see how that is faithful.

:whatever:

You're telling me you look at that pic and you don't instantly recognize it as Spider-Man?

Get your eyes fixed.

[Whiskey Tango]

It's darker colors because the lighting is dark:dry:

Glad to know we have a lighting expert in our midst!

[craigdbfan]

I'm really curious about the mask.

Seeing as they are really separating themselves from the Raimi design, I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to go with a smaller sleeker lens.

So those who dread the small eye/lens Spider-Man brace yourselves. I actually might like it better that way honestly.

If they are trying to separate themselves that much with the more modern traditional look of Spidey they might as well go all the way and just stick with the small eyes.

[PreK]

I can't wait to see the legs. It is totally going to make the costume for me:awesome:
No, it's beyond evident those who hate the suit now are in no flexible position to change their minds. The main ingredients have already been revealed, so it's likely the indifferent and negative stances will stay that way.

I was actually implying those who are in love with it may not actually come to like the other segments of the suit yet to be revealed. I'd give the current outfit about a 9, but I'm honestly not loving the striped legs and possible redesign around the back/hip area. I'm hoping these are changes that will ultimately work but admittedly I am a little worried.

[Eggyman]

But he has Spider-Sense!

But he might be distracted! He might think his head's buzzing because he's covered in sewer poo.

[Octoberist]

But he might be distracted! He might think his head's buzzing because he's covered in sewer poo.

I'm sure the bus driver will aiming for him anyway. After all, it's New York!

[Gold Samurai]

It still looks recognizable as a Spider-Man suit and it could even fit in a future comic.

Comics have characters change costumes monthy/yearly.

You people act like they changed the classic colors from red and blue to yellow and black.

You should be grateful it's not some rubber suit with neon lights

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4005/nickcagesuperman.jpg

[Danalys]

my take on the suit is that it looks like some nicely arty re-imagining of the spider-man suit that if it was a piece of fan art i'd enjoy, but for a whole film (possibly series) it seems too unrepresentative.

[craigdbfan]

Does anyone love the fact that it looks like Cage showed up completely stoned for that Superman costume fitting?

[TeejTurtle]

The costume looks cool. It's also unfinished. Red isn't finished painted and the webbing hasn't been finished being engraved. So at the end we may get him swinging around with a complete version.

[Ipodman]

I can't wait to see the legs. It is totally going to make the costume for me:awesome:

New Spidey costume is barefooted

The webbing is a little closer to one another on this suit don't you think...

[Gold Samurai]

Well I read an article where Cage once took some mushrooms and shared it with his dog. Plus you'd have to be stoned to get into something like that or even think of something like that.

[craigdbfan]

Well I read an article where Cage once took some mushrooms and shared it with his dog. Plus you'd have to be stoned to get into something like that or even think of something like that.

Cage taking shrooms with his dog. :hehe:

Plus you'd have to be stoned to get into something like that or even think of something like that.

Haha no sober person would step in that thing.

[Alchemyst]

Does anyone love the fact that it looks like Cage showed up completely stoned for that Superman costume fitting?

You mean the "Light Up Action" Superman costume? I sure hope he was stoned :awesome:

[TeejTurtle]

The costume looks cool. It's also unfinished. Red isn't finished painted and the webbing hasn't been finished being engraved. So at the end we may get him swinging around with a complete version.

[Lunar_Wolf]

The costume looks cool. It's also unfinished. Red isn't finished painted and the webbing hasn't been finished being engraved. So at the end we may get him swinging around with a complete version.

How do you know?

[Superman]

Well I'm waiting to see what the mask looks like before I say to much but as far as this one pic goes I think it's not to bad. I do wish the webbing in the red was more prominent and his belt went all the way around but all in all I have to say it's not to bad.

[craigdbfan]

You mean the "Light Up Action" Superman costume? I sure hope he was stoned :awesome:

I'm sure he's never forgotten the experience if that was in fact the case.

If he did there are always these pictures to remind him. :word:

[Gold Samurai]

Cage taking shrooms with his dog. :hehe:



He was on Letterman and I made a mistake. It was his cat.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2010/jul/15/lost-in-showbiz-nicolas-cage

Whether Nicolas has turned a financial corner we cannot say, but he was certainly singing for his supper on a US chatshow this week, barely settling into his seat before telling David Letterman how his cat Lewis had just adored the bag of magic mushrooms he'd kept in his fridge back in the day.




"He ate them voraciously," Cage explained gamely to Letterman. "It was like cat-nip to him. So I thought what the heck, I'd better do it with him."
Well, it's only sociable, isn't it?
"I remember lying in my bed for hours," he went on, "and Lewis was on the desk across from the bed for hours, staring at each other . . . not moving. But he would stare at me," Nicolas concluded sagely, "and I had no doubt that he was my brother."

[Spider-Who?]

The costume looks cool. It's also unfinished. Red isn't finished painted and the webbing hasn't been finished being engraved. So at the end we may get him swinging around with a complete version.
I disagree. If they felt the need to have Peter in a half-finished suit, they wouldn't have the unfinished aspects be so subtle, because we're not going to be given the chance to pour over the suit in the film the way we are this photo.

[Ultimate Doom]

If Peter can make webshooters he can atleast make a decent costume :awesome:

[Spider-Who?]

u lost me
think he's asking if we think Sony reads these boards, because the webbing looks indented, when some common design ideas here have been:

black webbing
no 3d webbing
possibly indented

[Alchemyst]

The costume looks cool. It's also unfinished. Red isn't finished painted and the webbing hasn't been finished being engraved. So at the end we may get him swinging around with a complete version.

How do you know?

Simple......TeejTurtle is a Sony spy :awesome:

[craigdbfan]

He was on Letterman and I made a mistake. It was his cat.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2010/jul/15/lost-in-showbiz-nicolas-cage

"And I had no doubt he was my brother"

:lmao:

[Catman]

The mask might make it or break it

That was my point.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Simple......TeejTurtle is a Sony spy :awesome:

I should've known. Those sneaky Sony spies.

[TeejTurtle]

I disagree. If they felt the need to have Peter in a half-finished suit, they wouldn't have the unfinished aspects be so subtle, because we're not going to be given the chance to pour over the suit in the film the way we are this photo.

I'm trying to stay optimistic lol. Will see when other images are revealed.

[Odametal]

both suits look cool. the problems with the raimi spidey wasn't the suit.

I only found truth in this comment.

[Spider-Who?]

I'm trying to stay optimistic lol. Will see when other images are revealed.
i hear ya. I'd like to think that too, but i feel it best to accept it as is. Better to be surprised than disappointed...

[Alchemyst]

I should've known. Those sneaky Sony spies.

OH YEAAAAAAH, I've been onto him :ninja:

[Nathan]

Really can't wait to see the mask. I hope it looks mean.

[NinjaTurtleFan]

We already dissected that part

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4826/31233813.jpg

You know whether there's webshooters underneath the gloves or not, what I hate is the stupid blue streaks going across the gloves. Makes it look like skater gloves. Like instead of webslinging, 'Spidey's going out shreddin', dude. Gnarly!' :dry: :doh:

Just makes me want to :facepalm: and :barf:

[spida-man]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2010/06/conceptspiderman1.jpg

http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/garfieldspiderman%281%29.jpg

Familar? Very Similar...

And.....I think that the image is after Uncle Ben died and that the suit might be a prototype....

Edit - Stratch the Uncle Ben thought lol. I forgot about the claw marks. But I think by the end Peter will remake or improve the suit to look more like the classic version. Similar to Batman Begins.

The only thing the same is the spider...that is it.

actually if u look closely you'll notice that's not all.
bot that early concept art and the new suit share:

a similar spider design,

"V" shaped cloves

and if u pay close attention looking at his right leg(our left), you'll notice a little bit of red on the the side of his like, which means the pants of the suit have red lines going down the sides.

[DeanJ2009]

amazing!! suit looks incredible imo, not the most faithful but good enough, i think this film is going to be something a bit special to be honest, everything about it so far has impressed me.

[Karelia]

Saw it and thought amazing. I'm very happy the way it looks. Like it more than Raimi's for sure. Hopefully the mask looks just as good. :D

[Sub-Zero]

i just realized that the suit reminds me a lot of the green lantern movie costume. it's still the same suit, but slightly updated...

[Marvel]

I'm certainly in the thumbs down crowd in terms of this image. Sorry.

[Octoberist]

@NinjaTurtleFan (http://forums.superherohype.com/member.php?u=40228)

Considering that you're probably not gonna have long 15 minute closeup shots of the 'blue streaks' on the gloves in the film, you shouldn't have to worry.

[The Guardian]

I LOVE the new suit!!!:eek::up: I new it would have to be a little different from the previous series's, after all they need new merchandise to sell, it was to be expected!!!:oldrazz::D I love how rag tag it looks, almost like a modified wetsuit and the tones of the red and blue as well as the spider and webbing, very nice!!! Andrew looks as he should a skinny teenager in high school who just had his life turned upside down, great stuff!!!:awesome::up:

[Gunga Diner]

I hope they're saving the mask for the trailer.

EDIT: Also, I freaking love it.

[Marvel]

The problem with this reboot is that most people aren't going to give them any benefit of the doubt because of the fine trilogy that has come before. Most people WANT to hate the reboot. They are going to have to be exceptional in every way just to avoid being blasted. That's almost impossible to pull off. To me, tapping in to the Brandon Routh/Superman Returns vibe with this photo is anything but exceptional.

:down

[Alchemyst]

I'm certainly in the thumbs down crowd in terms of this image.

The problem with this reboot is that most people aren't going to give them any benefit of the doubt because of the fine trilogy that has come before. Most people WANT to hate the reboot. They are going to have to be exceptional in every way just to avoid being blasted. That's almost impossible to pull off. To me, tapping in to a Brandon Routh/Superman Returns vibe with this photo is anything but exceptional.

The same Superman Returns that was supposed to be a continuation of the Richard Donner Superman film? This new Spider-Man is pretty much set in it's own universe which shares qualities of the Ultimate universe, if anything they just have to strive to set this one apart from the Raimi films.

[OctaviusINC]

I brightened it up a bit to see more detail. This is the best I can do....

http://i55.tinypic.com/29c5kb5.jpg

[Eggyman]

The problem with this reboot is that most people aren't going to give them any benefit of the doubt because of the fine trilogy that has come before. Most people WANT to hate the reboot. They are going to have to be exceptional in every way just to avoid being blasted. That's almost impossible to pull off. To me, tapping in to the Brandon Routh/Superman Returns vibe with this photo is anything but exceptional.

:down

I don't get that vibe at all.

[Snikt]

The only thing I think that is lacking is the connection of the belt to the front of the suit. It always helped to break apart the costume between the top and bottom.

Other than that, I'm indifferent.:dry:

Not completely happy with it, nor am I completely disgusted with it :woot:

[LuisTX85]

The problem with this reboot is that most people aren't going to give them any benefit of the doubt because of the fine trilogy that has come before. Most people WANT to hate the reboot. They are going to have to be exceptional in every way just to avoid being blasted. That's almost impossible to pull off. To me, tapping in to the Brandon Routh/Superman Returns vibe with this photo is anything but exceptional.

:down

That's what I noticed when reading the comments for this pic on Marvel's facebook page!

[Spider-Who?]

It seems this could be the shape of the belt? Very roundish (if this is the shape). Do you think it could have the "spidey signal" flashlight?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/duo_maxwell07740/belt.jpg
now that you point it out, the area you outlined does appear to be colored/damaged differently than the area surrounding it. I hope that your theory is correct.

[Whiskey Tango]

You can barely make out the thin strip of red that runs up his right arm from the tip of the glove. Also, his belt is totally missing.

[Ultra-Spidey]

Well, i'm happy that they didn't do anything extremely radical to the suit but honestly i really didn't think they would do that anyway given that practically every spidey fan were in agreement that the Raimi suit was perfect or near perfection. And also the fact that spidey has to generally "look like spidey" for non-fans to be able to distinguish that it is indeed spidey.

With that said, the best way i can describe the suit is this: SERVICEABLE. At least until we get shots of the complete costume anyway, which may change my opinion to MEH or UGH. The mask would have to blow me away for me to "upgrade" my opinion of the suit NOW. And at looking at the suit now, i don't think the mask will have my jaw on the floor.

There are few aspects of the suit that i really like, most notably the "engraved" web pattern. I always wondered what would be an alternative way to design the webbing pattern onto the costume besides "raised webbing", and i think the "engraved" design is a nice alternative because it seems that they can get more detailed with how intricate the web pattern is. Which has me wondering, why does the web motive only appear on the chest and shoulder area of the suit but fade into just lines as it gets to the torso area? :huh:

To close this out, the new suit had some pretty big shoes to fill and to me so far, it has done a SERVICEABLE job. As much as i think Andrew makes for a better looking Peter, i'm sorry to say but the new suit just isn't gonna be as good as this one.
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/1166/actionpromo6.pnghttp://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5104/spiderman3c.jpghttp://img593.imageshack.us/img593/7721/spidey2promopic.png
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[Whiskey Tango]

Mmmm silver webs, just like Ditko drew him.

Oh, wait...

[Spider-Who?]

You can barely make out the thin strip of red that runs up his right arm from the tip of the glove. Also, his belt is totally missing.
yeah...i'm beginning to be cautiously optimistic about the inclusion of a belt in the suit.

[LuisTX85]

I brightened it up a bit to see more detail. This is the best I can do....

http://i55.tinypic.com/29c5kb5.jpg

Now that's much more clear!,No belt and blue streaks on the glove is the only thing I really dislike about the suit!.

[Danalys]

the first trilogy sucked us in with being the first big budget version and with awesome swinging cg. still had myriad problems. this new version could have wowed us as the version that truly got it about what makes spidey spidey. as it is i'm just gonna wait and see if they got the characterization better, have a better plot or action sequences, because in visual design it's further from my preference than ramis was.

the plus points so far is that garfield isn't fat and is a good actor but if the interpretation is wrong that wont save things.

[Saint]

No. Not at all I completely understand your post. :up:

It was a general statement it wasn't targeted towards you. Its for those saying that people like me wanted to be stagnated with the Raimi design when all I wanted was a different take on the classic like the comics do with every passing artist.

Not a total rehaul. Again not a bad thing its just not clicking with me.

Ah, understood.

[Mace Bloodstone]

I LOVE the new suit!!!:eek::up: I new it would have to be a little different from the previous series's, after all they need new merchandise to sell, it was to be expected!!!:oldrazz::D I love how rag tag it looks, almost like a modified wetsuit and the tones of the red and blue as well as the spider and webbing, very nice!!! Andrew looks as he should a skinny teenager in high school who just had his life turned upside down, great stuff!!!:awesome::up:

Agree.. Also It looks like something made for battle, not just something made to pose in.

[LuisTX85]

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/1166/actionpromo6.pnghttp://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5104/spiderman3c.jpghttp://img593.imageshack.us/img593/7721/spidey2promopic.png
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8205/actionpromo0.jpghttp://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9601/actionpromo2.pnghttp://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5277/actionpromo3.png

Can't wait to see the new suit in action with the mask,doing those poses!

[craigdbfan]

Well, i'm happy that they didn't do anything extremely radical to the suit but honestly i really didn't think they would do that anyway given that practically every spidey fan were in agreement that the Raimi suit was perfect or near perfection. And also the fact that spidey has to generally "look like spidey" for non-fans to be able to distinguish that it is indeed spidey.

With that said, the best way i can describe the suit is this: SERVICEABLE. At least until we get shots of the complete costume anyway, which may change my opinion to MEH or UGH. The mask would have to blow me away for me to "upgrade" my opinion of the suit NOW. And at looking at the suit now, i don't think the mask will have my jaw on the floor.

There are few aspects of the suit that i really like, most notably the "engraved" web pattern. I always wondered what would be an alternative way to design the webbing pattern onto the costume besides "raised webbing", and i think the "engraved" design is a nice alternative because it seems that they can get more detailed with how intricate the web pattern is. Which has me wondering, why does the web motive only appear on the chest and shoulder area of the suit but fade into just lines as it gets to the torso area? :huh:

To close this out, the new suit had some pretty big shoes to fill and to me so far, it has done a SERVICEABLE job. As much as i think Andrew makes for a better looking Peter, i'm sorry to say but the new suit just isn't gonna be as good as this one.
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/1166/actionpromo6.png

Couldn't agree more man. Eloquently said.

[Whiskey Tango]

Dude, this *is* a different take on the classic webs. A total overhaul would be like the red and gold suit, or the crappy Alex Ross design.

[Scarlettess]

I brightened it up a bit to see more detail. This is the best I can do....

http://i55.tinypic.com/29c5kb5.jpg

Uh oh...looks like there is definately a red strip on his right leg(our left), not sure how i feel about that...:dry: someone in the art thread put the belt in and the suit looks much better with it, in fact makes it look pretty damn near perfect. *sigh*

[Saint]

Anyone else think we'll be in for a 'surprise' once the lower-half and back of the suit is fully revealed? I just have a gut feeling there will be a lot more redesigning going on.
That would be interesting.

[Bruce_Begins]

Garfield in the new Spidey Suit looks like he has just stepped out of comics page, although the suit design is not a classic one, but it is good, a lot better than what I was expecting.


Now, I am excited for the movie.

[Danalys]

Uh oh...looks like there is definately a red strip on his right leg(our left), not sure how i feel about that...:dry: someone in the art thread put the belt in and the suit looks much better with it, in fact makes it look pretty damn near perfect. *sigh*

look at the left hand our right and how it reflects the blue from the leg. i think the right leg our left is reflecting the right hand.

[Gamma Goliath]

Imo it definitely looked like he may have had a belt, I can see outlines where it may have been. Maybe torn off during a sewer battle with the lizard ? ;)

[LuisTX85]

someone in the art thread put the belt in and the suit looks much better with it, in fact makes it look pretty damn near perfect. *sigh*

Are you being sarcastic or something??,I can't find it there!

[PreK]

look at the left hand our left and how it reflects the blue from the leg. i think the right leg our left is reflecting the right hand.
That is not how color or reflections work.

[Immortalfire]

I don't like how the red stripe down his front just stops. It needs to connect to the belt-looking part.

[Danalys]

That is not how color or reflections work.

it's called radiosity. something lit at a particular angle can impart colour on something else nearby at a particular relative angle. it's one of those things that makes photorealistic computer graphics difficult.

[wobbly]

Uh oh...looks like there is definately a red strip on his right leg(our left), not sure how i feel about that...:dry: someone in the art thread put the belt in and the suit looks much better with it, in fact makes it look pretty damn near perfect. *sigh*

Yeah, I see that...Having had a closer look at the suit, and having worked on it a little for a manip, I'm finding less to like about it tbh. No belt, a hellova lot going on with the thing and red strips up the side of the legs (would guess that that connects up to the hip areas)...Hmmn.

Will wait on more pics and the mask, so reserving judgement for now, but I am thinking they have gone a little too far in trying too hard to make it look different from the previous design.

[El Payaso]

I have to see it in the movie. This photo? I just hate it. Looks like someone tried to imitate the original suit but didn't make the effort.

And for all of you who think I'm nothing but a Raimi hater, his suit rocked, this one not so much, at least in this photo.

[Bruce_Begins]

It looks like an image from the movie, not a promotional shot like the one released for SR.

I am surprised that we are getting actual pics this early.

[I Am The Knight]

I brightened it up a bit to see more detail. This is the best I can do....

http://i55.tinypic.com/29c5kb5.jpg

There is a belt...It's just ripped off?

[mclay18]

all i know is Garfield could sure as hell kick McGuire's parker's ass lol

Garfield looks wafer thin. You can see muscle definition and the thinner frame allows for more agility, but he still looks like you could lay him out with one punch.

Say all you want, but Maguire's Spider-Man looked agile and clearly strong. I do like the details like the scratches and damage to Garfield's suit, as well as the backpack. Nice touch.

But I still don't like the 2012 suit.

[WarrenPeace2012]

I'd actually like to see the webbing underneath the armpits like old school spidey, but I'm probably the only one lol

[Agent 194]

I have to see it in the movie. This photo? I just hate it. Looks like someone tried to imitate the original suit but didn't make the effort.

And for all of you who think I'm nothing but a Raimi hater, his suit rocked, this one not so much, at least in this photo.

Ah, El Payaso. Since I don't have much good to say about the new suit I'll repeat something I've said a few times. That your avatar is by far, one of my favorites on the boards. Viva Cesar Romero!

[El Payaso]

I agree, if you're doing your own version of a particular superhero, especially a hero that has had previous films, there are certain adjustments that need to be made in order for it to be considered your own unique take on that hero. Tim Burton had his own vision of how Batman looked and so did Schumaucher, and Nolan. They took the same features that made the character recognizeable and did their own take to make him fit in with the world that their films created.

Maybe I'm just wrong but Burton had his own revolutionary vision of Batman (armoured - aka rubber - totally black suit) and then Schumacher and Nolan kept it with some variations.

[NimbleBimble]

I'm still up in the air about the new design. By virtue of Spider-man's mask covering his whole face, it's hard to get a good feel for what the end result will really look like. I think once a pic featuring Spidey donning the mask is released a lot of people may be changing their current position on the reboot's suit design one way or another.

[wobbly]

it's called radiosity. something lit at a particular angle can impart colour on something else nearby at a particular relative angle. it's one of those things that makes photorealistic computer graphics difficult.

You might be right but I'm inclined to think it is red strip as the color continues into the bottom where that area of the leg has direct light as well. I think the color would end there if we were looking at a reflection. Also seems too defined to me as well. Oh well, we will find out soon enough.

[The Guard]

Has anyone noticed...the red on that suit is a kind of waxy, plasticy see through applique?

Now I understand why SPIDER-MAN: TURN OFF THE DARK's suit looks the way it does, with that layered, spraypainted look.

[PreK]

it's called radiosity. something lit at a particular angle can impart colour on something else nearby at a particular relative angle. it's one of those things that makes photorealistic computer graphics difficult.
I know what it is, however it's not what I'm seeing in the photo. To clarify:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Radiosity_Comparison.jpg

The costume photo shows a distinct stripe, with no light diffusion between the red and blue areas. Moreover the red is as colorful as the other parts of the suit. Were this to be a reflection I don't think it would be so clear.

[chaseter]

Glad to know we have a lighting expert in our midst!

But at least it's darker than the Raimi suit so we are good.

[DeanJ2009]

that suit to me screams "attitude" it looks pretty cool right there.

[Danalys]

the direct light would just wash it out making it whiter. i'm prepared to be wrong about this since i am every now and then. and heck it's not like we won't know for sure eventually. but the blue tinge on the right hand does make that probable. but if there was a stripe there the redness imparted wouldn't be visable since it would already more red and with the shadow on the other side it's impossible to be sure.

[Danalys]

I know what it is, however it's not what I'm seeing in the photo. To clarify:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Radiosity_Comparison.jpg

The costume photo shows a distinct stripe, with no light diffusion between the red and blue areas. Moreover the red is as colorful as the other parts of the suit. Were this to be a reflection I don't think it would be so clear.

that picture illustrates more lighting from a diffuse source rather than diffuse reflection. nice that you googled it tho. but notice how the ceiling in one picture is more red than in the other.

the distinction of the line looks more based on shadow than anything else.

[chaseter]

Mmmm silver webs, just like Ditko drew him.

Oh, wait...

Mmmm new costume just like the costume designer drew him. I hope the design sketches become canon:awesome:

[Whiskey Tango]

I'd actually like to see the webbing underneath the armpits like old school spidey, but I'm probably the only one lol

I'd like to see those too.

[PreK]

that picture illustrates more lighting from a diffuse source rather than diffuse reflection. nice that you googled it tho. but notice how the ceiling in one picture is more red than in the other.
Well yes, I was fully prepared to write a thesis and commission a detailed painting to illustrate my point -- but alas, technology has only fueled my laziness. :o

[Scarlettess]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/duo_maxwell07740/belt.jpg

I hope your right. Man, do I hope your right. But unfortunately i highly doubt it. :-(

[Whiskey Tango]

Mmmm new costume just like the costume designer drew him. I hope the design sketches become canon:awesome:

Be careful what you wish for! :awesome:

[chaseter]

I don't like how the red stripe down his front just stops. It needs to connect to the belt-looking part.

They wanted you to see how much trouble they had with Garfield's package by putting a big red arrow to it.

[SpeterMan3]

I voted wrong :(

[Danalys]

Well yes, I was fully prepared to write a thesis and commission a detailed painting to illustrate my point -- but alas, technology has only fueled my laziness. :o

just wait until robot butlers arrive.

[NinjaCarm]

I'm starting to think that there is supposed to be some sort of "belt" on there, cause it looks like something is missing.

Part of me feels this suit is a combo of the Ben Reily Spider-Man, the House of M Spider-Man, and the classic Spider-Man.

[Majik1387]

They wanted you to see how much trouble they had with Garfield's package by putting a big red arrow to it.
Actually, that's just the usual Spidey costume

[Doomed_hero]

looks like spidey's house of m coustume

[Scarlettess]

They wanted you to see how much trouble they had with Garfield's package by putting a big red arrow to it.

Teeehehe :pal::applaud

As much as its probably not gonna happen, I really would like the red belt on that suit. someone did a manip of it, maybe in this thread i dont know, but it looks so much better with it, didn't bother me before but now it just looks completely wierd without a belt there. :csad:

[NinjaCarm]

I have to see it in the movie. This photo? I just hate it. Looks like someone tried to imitate the original suit but didn't make the effort.

And for all of you who think I'm nothing but a Raimi hater, his suit rocked, this one not so much, at least in this photo.

I'm surprised that you don't like. Hmm.

[Gold Samurai]

But at least it's darker than the Raimi suit so we are good.

In some scenes the blue areas in part 2 were near black level lighting.

Take for instance the train scene

NLgY6f60CA

[Project862006]

17 morons in this thread:awesome::dry:

[Wams]

Its like the costume guy got tired of doing webs so....he just stopped
and said "F**k it....." :whatever:
The designer just wanted the red area his chest and torso make an arrow
that just points to his d!ck......WTF is that about???
And you guys like this.????:doh:
http://i55.tinypic.com/29c5kb5.jpg

It has all the unnecessary seam work in it like the Superman Returns suit..
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7OPeerpAeAs/Su51hUyL7PI/AAAAAAAAXJQ/XaozK4RWK0s/s1600/CW-Routh-Superman-studio-pose-01.jpg

And everone knows how much I didn't like that suit....but I love
it in comparison to that '$p!der-man' piece o crrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrap!!!

[chaseter]

Actually, that's just the usual Spidey costume

Nah not really

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8905/amazingfantasy15.jpg

The only thing the same is the red and the blue.

[NinjaCarm]

17 morons in this thread:awesome::dry:

C'mon now, that's just wrong.

C'mon man.

It's 92 geniuses. Get it right.:awesome:

[Danalys]

i fear the hype has descended into youtube levels of commentary.

[NinjaCarm]

Its like the costume guy got tired of doing webs so....he just stopped
and said "F**k it....." :whatever:
The designer just wanteb the red area his chest and torso make an arrow
that just points to his d!ck......WTF is that about???
And you guys like this.????:doh:


It has all the unnecessary seam work in it like the Superman Returns suit..
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7OPeerpAeAs/Su51hUyL7PI/AAAAAAAAXJQ/XaozK4RWK0s/s1600/CW-Routh-Superman-studio-pose-01.jpg

And everone knows how much I didn't like that suit....but I love
it in comparison to that '$p!der-man' piece o crrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrap!!!

I totally disagree but you "Designer guy said F#$% it!" rant made me....
:pal:

And oh Routh as Superman... awful

[chaseter]

In some scenes the blue areas in part 2 were near black level lighting.

Take for instance the train scene

NLgY6f60CA

I was being sarcastic:cwink:

[Eelectro 2]

im seriously loving this new costume, it looks fantastic. i was pleased with the classic spider-man suit from the raimi trilogy but this one so far has me really excited for this film on top of everything else. although it doesnt seem like he could make it, i guess that doesnt really matter quite as much as quality for what we are getting.

and for those who seem to think its a bad choice because its not 'classic' looking enough, if you look at it, aside from newer updates to the style of the suit, it is still retaining the classic-ness. the general design is the same, red chest tapering down with a spider emblem in the middle (and most likely on the back), red gloves and most likely red boots, mainly red arms and legs...webbing, im betting his mask will be entirely red aside from the eyes (which will probably be white) so whats so different? cuz its not a carbon copy of the old comics?

[Boom]

That shot of Routh is embarrassingly terrible.

[Danalys]

it is darker in a kind of gothic twisted burton like way.

[PreK]

Nah not really

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8905/amazingfantasy15.jpg

The only thing the same is the red and the blue.

Yeah, it's puzzling how the majority of the Spidey fanbase could possibly love a suit that looks absolutely nothing like their hero. I'm surprised people even realize it's Spidey, it looks so unlike the character.

[Danalys]

That shot of Routh is embarrassingly terrible.

i didn't know that supes did step aerobics.

[chaseter]

Yeah, it's puzzling how the majority of the Spidey fanbase could possibly love a suit that looks absolutely nothing like their hero. I'm surprised people even realize it's Spidey, it looks so unlike the character.

So I am guessing you loved the Goblin costume.

[Whiskey Tango]

i fear the hype has descended into youtube levels of commentary.

Oh, come on now. You can't be ser-

Its like the costume guy got tired of doing webs so....he just stopped
and said "F**k it....." :whatever:
The designer just wanteb the red area his chest and torso make an arrow
that just points to his d!ck......WTF is that about???
And you guys like this.????:doh:
It has all the unnecessary seam work in it like the Superman Returns suit..
And everone knows how much I didn't like that suit....but I love
it in comparison to that '$p!der-man' piece o crrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrap!!!

****, you were right!

[DieSmiling]

I like the suit. Definitely get an "ultimate" vibe from it. I like the fact that it's got a different look from the first movies, but still keeps a generally faithful appearance.

[Eelectro 2]

the webbing under the arms would serve no purpose but if they enhanced it with cgi i certainly wouldnt mind seeing a little bit.

i thin kwhat im liking the most about this new suit is that he looks like hes actually not padded underneath like tobey was. that suit always looked too poofy since 2 and not enough emphasis on lean muscle

[Wams]

I totally disagree but you "Designer guy said F#$% it!" rant made me....
:pal:

And oh Routh as Superman... awful

Yea...but The Singer suit is WAAAAAAY closer to the comics than this new
$pider-man tripe.

Im just sayin..........

[Scarlettess]

In some scenes the blue areas in part 2 were near black level lighting.

Take for instance the train scene

NLgY6f60CA

Agreed. I was watching it today, and occured to me that all these fans that are wanting a 'darker shade of blue', well his blue almost looks black especially when he's on top of the train.

[batboy99]

Raimi's suit is alot more traditional while this one is a little more stylized. I am a fan of both. Could do without the different gloves and lack of belt in this one ,but I really like it. I also think Garfield being in the suit helps the case alot more.

[NinjaCarm]

Wow, amazing all the different opinions in here about the suit. Very entertaining, to say the least.

I mean, it's a film! The second take mind you! He's not going to look spot on comic wise!

Relax!

[Majik1387]

Nah not really

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8905/amazingfantasy15.jpg

The only thing the same is the red and the blue.
I was talking about the arrow.

[Ultimate Doom]

I never did get what was so bad about Routh's suit..? Then again Im not a superman fan

[Matt]

That suit is, IMO, terrible. I can see how there was a lot of pressure, considering the Raimi suit was perfect, but this one is just....ugh. That said, Garfield looks good for the part.

[PreK]

So I am guessing you loved the Goblin costume.
No, completely abhorred it. That is beside the point however. Every person here has the right to express their opinion. But making exaggerated claims does little to help people understand or sympathize with your position. It just comes off as extremely bitter and crazy.

[Anti-Venom]

Weird. That was my first reaction. I just don't know right now.

[Doomed_hero]

wow u know this is where I start to get annoyed. I am 50/50 on the suit and do like aspects of it, but I hate when I see post of pee ho don't like it like I have seen on several of these threads act like just cause someone likes the suit that the are not true Spider-Man fans. That is so idiotic. Spider-Man has had some different looks over the years, But he is always Peter and that is the main aspect I will look for in the film. I hated te first Spider-man movie while others loved it, when a comic frind of mine loved it I disagreed with him on the movie butver his loveor knowlege of the character.

[NinjaCarm]

Raimi's suit is alot more traditional while this one is a little more stylized. I am a fan of both. Could do without the different gloves and lack of belt in this one ,but I really like it. I also think Garfield being in the suit helps the case alot more.

I'm amazed:awesome:

But the mask better have the small sinister eyes:cmad::cmad::cmad: ggrrr...

[Ultimate Doom]

edit

[Wams]

Imagine this kids skinny a$$ head wearing the mask.... EEK!!!:wow:

Im scared to think of how that mask is gonna look.:dry:

[chaseter]

No, completely abhorred it. That is beside the point however.
Rofl

[Scarlettess]

also did anyone else notice how the webs abruptly stop?... makes me think that maybe the possibilty of a belt is even more possible.

[Danalys]

I never did get what was so bad about Routh's suit..? Then again Im not a superman fan

baby blue blue. tending into maroon for the reds. high cut pantyish "underwear." small S.

[PreK]

Should've known better than to expect a thoughtful exchange.

[NinjaCarm]

Yea...but The Singer suit is WAAAAAAY closer to the comics than this new
$pider-man tripe.

Im just sayin..........

Well I don't see it that way.

Also, I mainly meant Routh AS Superman was awful. I've seen paint dry with more personality than he had as Kent / Superman.

[Wams]

also did anyone else notice how the webs abruptly stop?... makes me think that maybe the possibilty of a belt is even more possible.

Like the original nicholas hammond Spider-man ???:huh:

Eww!!!!

[Spider-Who?]

it's called radiosity. something lit at a particular angle can impart colour on something else nearby at a particular relative angle. it's one of those things that makes photorealistic computer graphics difficult.
no, dude. radiosity doesn't work like that with such deep colors on a material like that. You can test that yourself. Never mind the fact that the division between the portion you're describing is a solid, hard line. There'd be some diffusion there. Its the actual color of the cloth.

on another note, i got bored and did this:

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz107/BlueEasy/garfieldspiderman-1.jpg

[craigdbfan]

That suit is, IMO, terrible. I can see how there was a lot of pressure, considering the Raimi suit was perfect, but this one is just....ugh. That said, Garfield looks good for the part.

Likewise.

That seems to be the consensus for those who dislike the costume; the design being the crucial flaw. I personally think its horrid. Nothing about it makes sense from the asymmetrical webbing to the mountain bike grip gloves everything about yells "change" for the sake of differentiating themselves from the Raimi series and what seems to be the general classic red and blue costume that we're all familiar with. This isn't cohesive or well planned out change that would add something to the classic design from the comics instead of detracting from it in the most bizarre way.

A missed opportunity really. They could have made an even more stylized costume that emphasized all the greatness from the classic costume utilizing both a costume and post production color shading and better movement with the cloth via motion capture.

Sad that we won't see something akin to this:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080208022145/marveldatabase/images/thumb/3/32/Peter_Parker_%28Earth-616%29.jpg/345px-Peter_Parker_%28Earth-616%29.jpg

Maybe for the next reboot...

[Danalys]

also did anyone else notice how the webs abruptly stop?... makes me think that maybe the possibilty of a belt is even more possible.

i noticed you were from stoke. i normally go to see films at festival park even tho that's technically hanley.

[batman11]

Nice work Spider-Who?. Looks really cool. Pat yourself on the back. :up: :)

[SpideyVille]

no, dude. radiosity doesn't work like that with such deep colors on a material like that. You can test that yourself. Never mind the fact that the division between the portion you're describing is a solid, hard line. There'd be some diffusion there. Its the actual color of the cloth.

on another note, i got bored and did this:

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz107/BlueEasy/garfieldspiderman-1.jpg
Much better :up:

[chaseter]

Should've known better than to expect a thoughtful exchange.
It's high brow convo when you say you hated the changes made to Goblin but love the changes made to Spider-Man. They were both radical changes that only represented the character in color. Goblin could have been so much better but it worked in the movie so I let it pass. This suit could have been so much better and I will only let it pass if it works in the movie. But as of right now, it sucks. It's like they took Raimi's Spider-Man, dropped him into rubber, and then pressed him into an unfinished mold. The Spider emblem looks like one of those gelatin bugs you would make with the small oven and those metal molds. It looks nothing like Spider-Man. You wonder why people quit reading comic runs when they did stupid costumes and stupid plots. I really like Ultimate Peter Parker and they just took a big dump on that suit. It feels like they went this radical just to make it look different. Why? Look at Iron Man. Look at Raimi's Spider-Man. Look at Captain America. Those are great suits. This suit will be gone and forgotten when the next films are made.

[NewYorkSpider]

I'm gonna wait untill I see another photo before I really judge this suit. It looks good from what I see.

[craigdbfan]

no, dude. radiosity doesn't work like that with such deep colors on a material like that. You can test that yourself. Never mind the fact that the division between the portion you're describing is a solid, hard line. There'd be some diffusion there. Its the actual color of the cloth.

on another note, i got bored and did this:

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz107/BlueEasy/garfieldspiderman-1.jpg

Honestly the arrow belt makes all the difference in the world. As much as I dislike the current state of the reboot costume this would help in turning my view on the costume around.

Without it the costume just looks naked.

[Ultimate Doom]

no, dude. radiosity doesn't work like that with such deep colors on a material like that. You can test that yourself. Never mind the fact that the division between the portion you're describing is a solid, hard line. There'd be some diffusion there. Its the actual color of the cloth.

on another note, i got bored and did this:

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz107/BlueEasy/garfieldspiderman-1.jpg

Wow..thats more like it :up:

[chaseter]

That does look a lot better. Still hate the gloves though.

[Danalys]

That does look a lot better. Still hate the gloves though.

it needs to be modified until it looks like the raimi suit but with different texture.

[Whiskey Tango]

No one quits reading comics because of costume changes, they just come to the internet and ***** about them.

[batman11]

Wow, I didn't actually notice Spider-Who?'s change of the belt. LOL. I was only looking at the mask. Out of curiosity, to those that say that his manip looks a lot better, is it simply because of the belt's addition, or is the inclusion of the mask helping shape your overall view of the whole thing?

[chaseter]

I can't think of any long run with a dumb costume that is considered great. Even Secret Wars is pretty stupid.

[itsleroy]

Obviously he's missing his belt. I think its also safe to assume that he has webshooters, so maybe he's walking home because his spare web cartridges were on his belt, that is in fact, missing?

?

Though, not wearing your mask while walking in your Spidey suit is a bit odd, tsk tsk. Anyway, I love the suit, as long as they have a belt and the mask doesn't deviate too much from the original design the suit is damn near perfect. As good as Raimi's if not better.

[Ultimate Doom]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2011/01/685ead787a576ee02e01cf270703dda7/original.jpg
Found this, made me laugh

[craigdbfan]

Wow, I didn't actually notice Spider-Who?'s change of the belt. LOL. I was only looking at the mask. Out of curiosity, to those that say that his manip looks a lot better, is it simply because of the belt's addition, or is the inclusion of the mask helping shape your overall view of the whole thing?

The mask is irrelevant at this point.

The arrow belt is a huge plus without that the costume fells as if its missing a crucial piece. Keeps the eyes from wandering and noticing the useless kibble like seams.

Still really dislike the design but that would make it much better.

[Spider-Who?]

thanks guys. I'll probably try a new version when i got more time, but honestly i didn't touch the gloves/forearms because i kinda like them (the forearms not the gloves; they'd just be a pain in the ass to manip).

the belt is the biggest thing for me. add that and i'm cool with everything else.

[chaseter]

Wow, I didn't actually notice Spider-Who?'s change of the belt. LOL. I was only looking at the mask. Out of curiosity, to those that say that his manip looks a lot better, is it simply because of the belt's addition, or is the inclusion of the mask helping shape your overall view of the whole thing?

The belt nearly changes the whole thing for me. However, with it being ripped off and not part of the costume...it won't look like that. If the mask looks like that, I will slightly be more pleased. If the gloves changed, the belt looked exactly like that, and the mask was sort of like that, then I would accept it. It still won't be as good as Raimi's but it would be okay. I despise the seams and the terrible webbing...it really isn't even webbing, I despise the gloves, and I despise the lack of the red belt. I really don't want to see a dinky Batman utility belt which I feel they will do.

[markstrange]

First Impression: I F-ing hate it!

But you can't really judge a thing unless you see it, so will see.

[batboy99]

Imagine this kids skinny a$$ head wearing the mask.... EEK!!!:wow:

Im scared to think of how that mask is gonna look.:dry:
Wtf? Peter is a skinny kid though. And its not like Garfield is some waif with no muscle at all. He's alot more Peter like than Toby ever was.

[craigdbfan]

thanks guys. I'll probably try a new version when i got more time, but honestly i didn't touch the gloves/forearms because i kinda like them (the forearms not the gloves; they'd just be a pain in the ass to manip).

the belt is the biggest thing for me. add that and i'm cool with everything else.

I'm going to keep using that as an example vs the current design. Its a long shot but maybe if we keep pushing this manip Sony might get a gist of the fixes people want here and there and might take a pointer or two.

Or they might not give a **** and just do whatever they want.

[PreK]

It's high brow convo when you say you hated the changes made to Goblin but love the changes made to Spider-Man. They were both radical changes that only represented the character in color.
Your presumed hypocrisy in my statements may hold weight in a black & white world, but that is not the case. Strict adherence to the source does not always lead to the better result. The sooner you understand that concept, the sooner you can understand why fans have a tendency to support artistic liberties that go against the source material. You will find many fan-made suits more faithful to the comics than Raimi's, but they are not necessarily superior solely because of it. It is a combination of design and execution that largely dictate that.

My distaste for Raimi's GG starts primarily with its overall visual aesthetic. I plainly hate it. And before you ask, I'd just as well hate a direct translation of the comic book suit as well. I'm not concerned with accuracy as much as I am with nailing the essence and general iconography of a particular figure of the books.

It looks nothing like Spider-Man.
I will reiterate that if this were fact, we are witnessing a completely worldwide anomaly as clearly the fanbase has taken kindly to the redesign. What you are stating indicates ZERO resemblance to the character. I cannot put into words how incredibly stupid that is. You show a pic of this to anyone familiar with the character and they will make that connection. I get that you hate the design, but this is beyond absurd.

The comparisons to basketballs and urinals may be silly, but at the very least they had merit in relation to the actual suit.

[TheSlag]

no, dude. radiosity doesn't work like that with such deep colors on a material like that. You can test that yourself. Never mind the fact that the division between the portion you're describing is a solid, hard line. There'd be some diffusion there. Its the actual color of the cloth.

on another note, i got bored and did this:

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz107/BlueEasy/garfieldspiderman-1.jpg

Nice! :up:

[Spider-Who?]

I'm going to keep using that as an example vs the current design. Its a long shot but maybe if we keep pushing this manip Sony might get a gist of the fixes people want here and there and might take a pointer or two.

Or they might not give a **** and just do whatever they want.
hahaha, yeah dude, i'm 100% sure it'll be the latter.

[Drizzle]

I don't like it as much as the Raimi version, but I don't hate it. I think this Spidey franchise might be similar to Nolan's Batman movies in the sense that he might make significant modifications to his costume in each film.

[Ultimate Doom]

Now all we need to do is fix the gloves and send it into sony haha

[Gamma Goliath]

Obviously he's missing his belt. I think its also safe to assume that he has webshooters, so maybe he's walking home because his spare web cartridges were on his belt, that is in fact, missing?

?

Though, not wearing your mask while walking in your Spidey suit is a bit odd, tsk tsk. Anyway, I love the suit, as long as they have a belt and the mask doesn't deviate too much from the original design the suit is damn near perfect. As good as Raimi's if not better.
I second this. I really wanna see the mask, I'm curious about how they handled the eyes.

[itsleroy]

I will reiterate that if this were fact, we are witnessing a completely worldwide anomaly as clearly the fanbase has taken kindly to the redesign. What you are stating indicates ZERO resemblance to the character. I cannot put into words how incredibly stupid that is. You show a pic of this to anyone familiar with the character and they will make that connection. I get that you hate the design, but this is beyond absurd.

The comparisons to basketballs and urinals may be silly, but at the very least they had merit in relation to the actual suit.

Damn.

Why must we fight? When it comes down to it, we all love the same thing.

[chaseter]

I will reiterate that if this were fact, we are witnessing a completely worldwide anomaly as clearly the fanbase has taken kindly to the redesign. What you are stating indicates ZERO resemblance to the character. I cannot put into words how incredibly stupid that is. You show a pic of this to anyone familiar with the character and they will make that connection. I get that you hate the design, but this is beyond absurd.
Look guys, it's Spider-Man
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6673/flipside.jpg

[NewYorkSpider]

Now all we need to do is fix the gloves and send it into sony haha


Yeah I'm not too fond of the gloves at the moment.

[Danalys]

mostly because reshoots cost money.changing multiple suits costs money. remodelling and rerendering costs money.

[batman11]

The arrow belt is a huge plus without that the costume fells as if its missing a crucial piece. Keeps the eyes from wandering and noticing the useless kibble like seams.

Still really dislike the design but that would make it much better.

The belt nearly changes the whole thing for me.

Thanks for the replies. It was just mild curiosity, and to be completely honest, I think it's kinda fascinating that such a minute difference actually acts as a really major factor for you guys. Two strips of red, and it becomes "acceptable" or "much better." I don't mean to sound condescending at all, and I apologize if I do. I'm really not knocking or anything, as we're all fans here with different opinions, but I just think that's pretty amazing. Faithfulness aside, I don't see it as a design issue, as I could go either way - belt or no belt. Either way I'm cool. Beauty of subjectivity I say. :) :up:

[TheSlag]

Nope.. I'm diggin the gloves. And the belt or illusion of a belt, I could go either way on. The without belt looks kinda more streamlined (which Garfield's build can pull off *lol.. pun intended*.. where Tobey's build could not).

The addition of the mask is brilliant though. :up:

[gdw]

Itsleroy, I was actually just thinking something similar. Well, wishfully hoping.
Same line of thought. If they are going with mechanical shooters, where would he keep the spare cartridges. So perhaps there's an actual separate piece belt that is off in the pic, like the mask.

He is carying his backpack, do he may have put it in it for some reason.

Anywho, like I said, wishful thinking. Also, id say the bit of red we see at back of his waist is the leg of the back spider.

[Wams]

He may get a belt like this.........
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hF09r6XaLRo/TLRxdllHsPI/AAAAAAAAEOM/SN8Ry1rvv2s/s1600/spider-man+nick+hammond+costume+cbs+1977+marvel+comics+sp idey+live-action.gif.gif


http://captain-america.us/gallery/data/media/7/spidermantvshow.jpg

http://captain-america.us/gallery/data/media/7/SpideyTVshow1.jpg

Ohhh how far we came up.....:word:
http://www.ionlitio.com/images/2007/05/spiderman_hammond_maguire.jpg ... yet to go down so far. :doh:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/wallyflash/garfieldspiderman1.jpg :dry:

Oh well....
Bring on Thor,Green Lantern,Batman,Captain America....anything else but this.

Im just sayin...

To be fair....It's all about the story.
If they have a great story...the suit can be overlooked.(not forgiven)

[PreK]

I second this. I really wanna see the mask, I'm curious about how they handled the eyes.
Same. The way the webbing has been etched into the new suit makes me believe that the eyes are likely to be part of the cloth rather than a separate solid piece like in Raimi's movies.

[craigdbfan]

I mean I still think the majority of the costume is dreck. It's just that it'll make it a little bit more enjoyable.

All the arrow belt would do is take away attention from the useless seams, half melted webbing, daddy long legs insignia and other design choices they went with.

Sort of like trying to save a dish you're not feeling so you add bit of salt to distract you from how much you aren't enjoy it kind of way.

[gdw]

Itsleroy, I was actually just thinking something similar. Well, wishfully hoping.
Same line of thought. If they are going with mechanical shooters, where would he keep the spare cartridges. So perhaps there's an actual separate piece belt that is off in the pic, like the mask.

He is carying his backpack, do he may have put it in it for some reason.

Anywho, like I said, wishful thinking. Also, id say the bit of red we see at back of his waist is the leg of the back spider.

[chaseter]

The middle of his costume looks like a heart.

[The Joker]

That's the weirdest shaped heart I've ever seen!

[Danalys]

Thanks for the replies. It was just mild curiosity, and to be completely honest, I think it's kinda fascinating that such a minute difference actually acts as a really major factor for you guys. Two strips of red, and it becomes "acceptable" or "much better." I don't mean to sound condescending at all, and I apologize if I do. I'm really not knocking or anything, as we're all fans here with different opinions, but I just think that's pretty amazing. Faithfulness aside, I don't see it as a design issue, as I could go either way - belt or no belt. Either way I'm cool. Beauty of subjectivity I say. :) :up:

it's all about the flow of lines in art and when they are cut and when some element of design is mimicked elsewhere. the simpleness of something doesn't effect this. that's why logos go through so many options before one is arrived at.

[PreK]

Look guys, it's Spider-Man
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6673/flipside.jpg
That design has taken little inspiration from the traditional suit, so I am not seeing your point here. I realize this is your form of humor but it would have been effective had it countered what I've said.

In any case you've made it apparent you're more interested in little sophomoric jabs than participating in a civil discussion. It's fine, I take no offense. My only intention was to highlight the overwhelming positivity coming from the fanbase. I'd sooner trust the overall vibe from the crowd that has the most passion for the character, as an indication of how well their franchise is being represented.

[Whiskey Tango]

Anyone who looks at that pic and says they don't recognize Spider-Man is either blind as a bat or just being deliberately obtuse. Dislike it all you want but at least attempt to maintain your dignity.

[gdw]

Anyone else kinda put off that the webbing isn't webbing, but a gtid?

[chaseter]

That design has taken little inspiration from the traditional suit, so I am not seeing your point here. I realize this is your form of humor but it would have been effective had it countered what I've said.

In any case you've made it apparent you're more interested in little sophomoric jabs than participating in a civil discussion. It's fine, I take no offense. My only intention was to highlight the overwhelming positivity coming from the fanbase. I'd sooner trust the overall vibe from the crowd that has the most passion for the character, as an indication of how well their franchise is being represented.

We will see what they say when the movie comes out. But then again everyone loved Routh's Superman suit. Everyone loved Batman Forever suits. Everyone loved Green Goblin's suit.

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2010/06/conceptspiderman1.jpg





The concept art photo is from Raimi's Spidey

[chaseter]

Anyone who looks at that pic and says they don't recognize Spider-Man is either blind as a bat or just being deliberately obtuse. Dislike it all you want but at least attempt to maintain your dignity.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/341/greengoblin.jpg

[Whiskey Tango]

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/341/greengoblin.jpg

Grats on learning how to post pics. Now try posting something relevant.

[Spider-X]

i just realized something...

asides from the texture of the suit...this looks pretty much exactly like the Spider-Man we know from the comics:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b359/Spider-X/lookslike.png

But if you looked just from the stomach down you wouldn't be able to tell it's Spider-Man pretty much at all (asides from maybe the webbing on the wrists):

















http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b359/Spider-X/doesnt.png

Bottom line...I REALLY hope there is a belt part missing. Hopefully a flat red belt that holds web cartridges for this webshooters or something, because that lack of that is throwing the costume off for me. It looks unfinished.

[Gold Samurai]

Anyone who looks at that pic and says they don't recognize Spider-Man is either blind as a bat or just being deliberately obtuse. Dislike it all you want but at least attempt to maintain your dignity.

Seriously. I want to see the 2001 comments about the Raimi costume.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/691/spidermanlu.jpg

-Raised webbing was probably one of the gripes

-The material




Like I said somewhere else, this new suit is no different than the hundreds of comic exclusive suits.

Hell I wouldn't be surprised if there's cross promotion with Amazing Spider-man and Peter wears the new movie suit

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

The middle of his costume looks like a heart.
I see it.

[Spider-Who?]

I added some webbing to the midsection and made the mask look closer to the rest of the suit. I don't make manips often (i prefer drawing from scratch) but i'm starting to have some fun :)

How does this work for you all? I think i'll play with the gloves for you guys later.
(in an effort to keep the thread on track, i guess i'll start posting these in the manips thread from now on)


http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz107/BlueEasy/garfieldspiderman-2.jpg

[chaseter]

That's the weirdest shaped heart I've ever seen!

Once you see it, you can never unsee it

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2471/garfieldspiderman1.jpg

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I saw it somewhere else.

[chaseter]

Anyone who looks at that pic and says they don't recognize Spider-Man is either blind as a bat or just being deliberately obtuse. Dislike it all you want but at least attempt to maintain your dignity.

Grats on learning how to post pics. Now try posting something relevant.

Relevance.

[Spider-Who?]

Once you see it, you can never unsee it

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2471/garfieldspiderman1.jpg
i don't see it.... :(

[Whiskey Tango]

Relevance.

No, posting a green goblin picture from the previous franchise has exactly **** all to do with what the new Spider-Man suit looks like. Lay off the meth and quit trolling.

[chaseter]

The spider is in the middle of the heart.

[PreK]

We will see what they say when the movie comes out. But then again everyone loved Routh's Superman suit. Everyone loved Batman Forever suits. Everyone loved Green Goblin's suit.
Maybe you're being sarcastic, but in case you're not (as I'm failing to see your point otherwise); neither of these are true. The fans were split down the middle in regards to those two.

The reception I've gathered here is actually a lot more unified than any of the recent superhero unveilings.

i just realized something...

asides from the texture of the suit...this looks pretty much exactly like the Spider-Man we know from the comics:

But if you looked just from the stomach down you wouldn't be able to tell it's Spider-Man pretty much at all
People don't tend to view movies through gloryholes. :cwink:

[craigdbfan]

I added some webbing to the midsection and made the mask look closer to the rest of the suit. I don't make manips often (i prefer drawing from scratch) but i'm starting to have some fun :)

How does this work for you all? I think i'll play with the gloves for you guys later.
(in an effort to keep the thread on track, i guess i'll start posting these in the manips thread from now on)


http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz107/BlueEasy/garfieldspiderman-2.jpg

Daddy long legs is no more. Look how much better that's already making the costume look.

Once you see it, you can never unsee it

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2471/garfieldspiderman1.jpg

The Yao Ming Spider emblem is yuck.

[PreK]

I added some webbing to the midsection and made the mask look closer to the rest of the suit. I don't make manips often (i prefer drawing from scratch) but i'm starting to have some fun :)

How does this work for you all? I think i'll play with the gloves for you guys later.
(in an effort to keep the thread on track, i guess i'll start posting these in the manips thread from now on)


http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz107/BlueEasy/garfieldspiderman-2.jpg
Superb touch-up. I too am confused with how they decided to alter the mid-section. It really does seem incomplete in the overall scheme. I suspect there's a lot more to the costume than what is assumed from this cropped shot.

[NinjaCarm]

Another reason I love the costume is it is reminiscent of Simone Bianchi's design, with the etched in black webbing look.

http://i.newsarama.com/marvelnew/feb2010/3_amazing_spider_man_622.jpg

[The Original Bamfer]

Did I hear someone say, "trolling"?

[chaseter]

Maybe you're being sarcastic, but in case you're not (as I'm failing to see your point otherwise); neither of these are true. The fans were split down the middle in regards to those two.

The reception I've gathered here is actually a lot more unified than any of the recent superhero unveilings.
I was being sarcastic. In fact just a few weeks ago, most people were wanting the new suit to look like Raimi's with just a few changes. The majority of people loved Raimi's suit. People that hated Raimi's movies loved the suit. You would have the occasional gripe about silver webbing and raised webs. Then this comes out. Those people are in love with this costume. People griping about silver webs love this suit. Makes zero sense.

We will see what everyone else thinks of the suit. Sites will start posting about it. We don't really count because we are too polarizing.

If you want a project, read through these:
http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/first-real-look-andrew-garfield-in-costume-as-new-spider-man/


People don't tend to view movies through gloryholes. :cwink:
What is that supposed to imply:huh:

[Spider-X]

People don't tend to view movies through gloryholes. :cwink:

har har...

I wasn't stating that "watch the movie from only the waist down and you'll see it's nothing like spiderman"...I wasn't even making the point that people won't like the movie because of this or stating that this is at all a glaring issue. I'm merely highlighting the issue with the costume I, and several others, have mentioned prior using the picture split in 2. It's just something i noticed looking at the picture.

[Perri]

on another note, i got bored and did this:

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz107/BlueEasy/garfieldspiderman-1.jpg

If the suit was like this I could deal with it, but there is just so much wrong with the 'official' suit as of right now. If the theory about the belt being missing from battle is true then that would work too but right now I'm missing that belt.

The suit reeks of overwrought teenage angst that it really makes me cringe. I am fine with the colours but the texture is gross. As others have said the basketball texture is laughable, unnecessary, and unappealing. It's a huge mess and the lines are confusing... Though I do really prefer the slimmer red on the torso and Garfield's body type is much better suited to my tastes.

To me, this looks like a high school students first draft of a design...That may be an insult to some high school students though.

I'm still optimistic though. The mask could be great [seems like they'd go with the sinister eyes] and when the suit is clean it could look totally different [hopefully the texture isn't as apparent]

This image sets the tone though - "GRITTY REBOOT" - ugh.

[The Original Bamfer]

Why does it matter what people loved then and what they love now? Why does that upset people? Why do people seem to feel betrayed? People like the suit. And it looks like Spider-Man. Uh..? :huh:

[JaD]

Looking back, I find it ironic how they talked about needing to conceal Garfield's bulge, only to have a giant red dick on his chest...pointing to his actual dick. Wow. That made me laugh... alot. :hehe:

[Spidro Man]

Nobody flip out for asking this, but do you think there might be more than one costume? Like in SM1 Spidey had the pullover red mask and then the normal suit. Maybe this is just one version and he changes it after he loses a battle with Lizard. Just saying.

[spideydave]

I think theyre going for a darker Spidey but it just looks ******.Has anyone seen what the last suit looked like after he got into a fight?! It looked like he was in a war. This one just looks like he fell down some steps. This was a poor choice of promoting should of picked a better shot of him

[The Original Bamfer]

This definitely looks like the final suit to me. And a badass one at that. :up:

[batman11]

I just realized, the suit is very reminiscent of sparkling vampire skin, and Garfield has the exact Edward hair in the pic. Anyone think they're going for a Twilight look?

I think theyre going for a darker Spidey but it just looks ******.Has anyone seen what the last suit looked like after he got into a fight?! It looked like he was in a war. This one just looks like he fell down some steps. This was a poor choice of promoting should of picked a better shot of him

Do you think it's entirely impossible that maybe the context of the released image situates Spidey on the street after a mild-battle and nothing "complete suit destruction" worthy? Is that not possible? Is it either full destruction or none? Aside from what the suit looked like in SM-1 after the asskicking from the Goblin, there's really no other time where we saw the last suit completely decimated. Pete should have been shredded in the final SM-3 battle, and yet all we got were a few cuts, the familiar mask rip, and some perfectly coifed hair at the end of it. The Goblin fight was a blood bath. Who the hell knows where Spidey is coming from in the new pic?

[Spider-X]

Why does it matter what people loved then and what they love now? Why does that upset people. Why do people seem to feel betrayed. People like the suit. And it looks like Spider-Man. Uh..? :huh:

You are polarizing the issue.

You can disagree about some aspects of the costume while still liking it over all. It's not as black and white as "LOVE" or "HATE/BETRAYAL!"

Some may feel "betrayed"...though that's pretty over dramatic and i doubt most who aren't 100% about the costume feel that way.

Myself for instance...i think the new costume looks pretty cool based on what we've seen...but there are parts about it I don't agree with, so I've engaged in a debate and so have others.

If anyone is going to be a jerk about it, that's there thing. Personally...I'm just trying to have a conversation here.

[craigdbfan]

I'm glad that most people liked the costume. The worst thing for this movie could have been a total rejection of the costume but lets be honest the Internet took this reveal pretty well with most people liking the costume (almost all websites including those who usually rip reveals apart were liking it). So I essentially see it passing its first hurdle quite well.

The part that sucks is that I completely hate it. Everything from the kibble amount of seams, ugly melting webbing that disappears as it gets closer to the groin, lack of red arrow belt, porous textures, mountain bike gloves, the amateurish design on expensive material, etc.

Just way to many aspects that I personally find really off putting.

[Perri]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2011/01/685ead787a576ee02e01cf270703dda7/original.jpg
Found this, made me laugh

Oh man, this is amazing! Haha!

[chaseter]

Bahahahahahahaha

[The Original Bamfer]

You are polarizing the issue.

Some may feel "betrayed"...though that's pretty over dramatic and i doubt most who aren't 100% about the costume feel that way.

Myself for instance...i think the new costume looks pretty cool based on what we've seen...but there are parts about it I don't agree with, so I've engaged in a debate and so have others.

If anyone is going to be a jerk about it, that's there thing. Personally...I'm just trying to have a conversation here.

I'm not polarizing the issue, I'm just trying to understand why it seems like people are getting offended because others love the suit. That makes no sense to me. You can love it, you can hate it, you can like parts of it - I don't care... what bothers me is when folks can't except the opinions of others. That's what I meant by betrayal.

[craigdbfan]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2011/01/685ead787a576ee02e01cf270703dda7/original.jpg
Found this, made me laugh

That's hilarious. :hehe:

[LegendaryCaleb]

Definitely agree with Bamfer!
The suit is awesome.

[chaseter]

I'm not polarizing the issue, I'm just trying to understand why it seems like people are getting offended because others love the suit. That makes no sense to me. You can love it, you can hate it, you can like parts of it - I don't care... what bothers me us when folks can't except the opinions of others. That's what I meant by betrayal.

Or why people are getting offended that some people hate the suit:huh: People say it looks like a basketball and then others are saying it is dumb to say that.

I don't think I have seen anybody be offended for someone liking it. I find it odd that people opinion's on changes change overnight. People's opinions on costumes differ because of who directed the movie. I find that odd. I find it odd to see people bash raised webbing and then pull out their sword to defend this suit's honor.

[PreK]

I was being sarcastic. In fact just a few weeks ago, most people were wanting the new suit to look like Raimi's with just a few changes. The majority of people loved Raimi's suit. People that hated Raimi's movies loved the suit. You would have the occasional gripe about silver webbing and raised webs. Then this comes out. Those people are in love with this costume. People griping about silver webs love this suit. Makes zero sense.
It would make zero sense if people were actively describing being averse to the very aspects of the suit that came to fruition. What you are seeing is people responding favorably to a suit they could never have predicted or expected. Thus, this reaction is not hypocrisy but a prime example of being exposed to tastes that were previously unexplored. No one asked for it, but being handed something that we like is simply a fortunate mishap.

We will see what everyone else thinks of the suit. Sites will start posting about it. We don't really count because we are too polarizing.

If you want a project, read through these:
http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/first-real-look-andrew-garfield-in-costume-as-new-spider-man/
The general fans are more erratic with their opinions than us (surprisingly), which is why I don't pay much attention to their thoughts. They tend to respond on first instincts and move on until the next promotional item comes their way. I could just as well point you to much more belligerent reactions towards the Avatar trailer and Heath Ledger's casting, all of which were proven null once the audience got a better look at the product.

[Aesop Rocks]

I love the suit, and I feel sad that grown men are crying over a suit.

[chaseter]

The general fans are more erratic with their opinions than us (surprisingly), which is why I don't pay much attention to their thoughts. They tend to respond on first instincts and move on until the next promotional item comes their way. I could just as well point you to much more belligerent reactions towards the Avatar trailer and Heath Ledger's casting, all of which were proven null once the audience got a better look at the product.
I disagree...I think us hardcore fans are way more polarizing than the general fanbase.

But yes, this subject will be dropped and then everyone will move onto the next piece of carcass thrown our way.

I can forgive the suit if the movie is amazing. My main concern is the quality of the movie.

[Mace Dolex]

Nobody flip out for asking this, but do you think there might be more than one costume? Like in SM1 Spidey had the pullover red mask and then the normal suit. Maybe this is just one version and he changes it after he loses a battle with Lizard. Just saying.
He might have a 2nd costume, I mean look how crazy toy makers get when making multiple versions of Spider-Man action figures? it's all about the money baby.

[Spider-X]

I'm not polarizing the issue, I'm just trying to understand why it seems like people are getting offended because others love the suit. That makes no sense to me. You can love it, you can hate it, you can like parts of it - I don't care... what bothers me is when folks can't except the opinions of others. That's what I meant by betrayal.

got ya.

they feel offended because it goes against their opinion, which they feel VERY strongly about. So they'll make their case...some more maturely than others.

As far as those who feel "betrayed": Some people either just aren't thinking rationally...or they're just being jerks because they aren't getting their way and see fit to ruin everyone else's fun. The old "if I'm not having fun...then no buddy will" mentality.

Basically...they act like that because they are selfish jerks.

Does that make sense?

[chaseter]

Get off my lawn.

[alexdunn]

Garfield definitely looks more like Peter than Maguire.

[chaseter]

Maguire looks like original Pete. Garfield looks like new Pete.

[Spider-X]

Get off my lawn.

*sullies grass and runs off*

I'll be back with my cleats, ya hippy! :cmad:

[craigdbfan]

Or why people are getting offended that some people hate the suit:huh: People say it looks like a basketball and then others are saying it is dumb to say that.

I don't think I have seen anybody be offended for someone liking it.

I love the suit, and I feel sad that grown men are crying over a suit.

Prime example.

This is how its been the entire day. Its been a battle of trying to talk about what we find to be major design flaws in the costume because we have to constantly respond to people who throw personal attacks that either revolve around something completely nonadjacent like being a crybaby when some just really dislike almost all aspects of the costume.

If anything the minority (those who don't like the design of the costume) have been getting attacked the most today. I've barely seen people attack people who like the costume.

Several posters including me who don't like the costume are still looking forward to the movie and expressed how we are glad that its being received well.

[Aesop Rocks]

Get off my lawn.

Did you used to use Hype members like [hype member here] and use them for sandbags?

[bosef982]

Really?

1) He ****ing made that suit himself, it's pretty obvious.

2) I love it. It's more realistic and urban than Raimi's, and makes Parker feel part of this world. It looks like he went out and got those materials and made it himself -- sorta like Kick-Ass, which is what Spidey sort of is in a real-world sense.


That's why I like it. It makes sense in a rela world context. Looks like we're finally getting a serious and loyal take on Spider-Man in OUR world, and not a regurgitation of what Raimi rather successfully already did.

[LostSon88]

that suit to me screams "attitude" it looks pretty cool right there.

I think thats the biggest thing I enjoy about it...there's like an 'edge' to it.

[chaseter]

Did you used to use Hype members like [hype member here] and use them for sandbags?
That username doesn't exist.:o

[Aesop Rocks]

Prime example.

This is how its been the entire day. Its been a battle of trying to talk about what we find to be major design flaws in the costume because we have to constantly respond to people who throw personal attacks that either revolve around something completely nonadjacent like being a crybaby when some just really dislike almost all aspects of the costume.

If anything the minority (those who don't like the design of the costume) have been getting attacked the most today. I've barely seen people attack people who like the costume.

Several posters including me who don't like the costume are still looking forward to the movie and expressed how we are glad that its being received well.

There's an astronomically huge difference between stating your dislike for the suit and allowing the suit to ruin your world around you.

[craigdbfan]

Its ruining the world around me?

Thats news to me.

So disliking a costume and discussing the various aspects that make it unappealing is destroying the world around me? Sorry but I'm not following.

[bosef982]

Oh, and people freaking out about him not wearing his mask:

1) You know anything about film, the number one rule is never obstruct your actor's eyes. It's a huge deal and you're just going to have to find creative ways to get his mask off so you can let your character act and emote.

2) It's a publicity still. Releasing it with the mask on serves no purpose whatsoever. It could be taken as a fan photo or something else. Sony has to show Garfield's face for recognition. On top of that, the kid will most likely be nominated for an Oscar come January and they need to draw the connection. It only makes sense for them to show the first costume photo or photo period from the film in a way that shows off his face.

[chaseter]

2) I love it. It's more realistic

That's why I like it. It makes sense in a rela world context. Looks like we're finally getting a serious and loyal take on Spider-Man in OUR world.

Point me to the nearest radioactive spiders!:awesome: Who's with me!

[Majik1387]

Maguire looks like original Pete.
No.

[Whiskey Tango]

No.

Teddy Roosevelt based Spidey's look on Tobey doncha know. :o

[Spider-X]

Really?

1) He ****ing made that suit himself, it's pretty obvious.



please explain to me how does this new suit AT ALL look like he made it himself? It looks like it's a manufactured rubber wetsuit to me. I doesn't even look like it's made from cloth.

The Raimi suit didn't even look very home made (until you look at the thread here where people actually recreate the suit on their own...pretty wicked stuff). And the Raimi suit looks MUCH more home made than this new suit.

[Majik1387]

Its ruining the world around me?

Thats news to me.

So disliking a costume and discussing the various aspects that make it unappealing is destroying the world around me? Sorry but I'm not following.
It's the 14th Zodiac sign!!!!!!!!!!

[spida-man]

i'll say this again: has ANYONE noticed that the new suit has red lines going down the sides of the legs?

[ironwez20]

I love the gritty and urban feel of the suit. you can tell its a darker take on spidey. Look at the claw marks on the chest, its brillant ! My only gripe is that he reminds me of a basketball but whatev.

[mre]

I love the new suit.
I'm hoping there is mud on his suit or something and the belt is in the design.
Also, I hope those bumps on his wrist are web shooters.
Can't wait for more images, although it will probably be a long while away. Really excited to see the mask.

[craigdbfan]

i'll say this again: has ANYONE noticed that the new suit has red lines going down the sides of the legs?

Yes.

[Spider-X]

i'll say this again: has ANYONE noticed that the new suit has red lines going down the sides of the legs?

i noticed a little notch of red on his left hip as if to possibly connect to a belt...is that what you're talking about?

[mre]

i'll say this again: has ANYONE noticed that the new suit has red lines going down the sides of the legs?

I don't see them.

[bosef982]

Point me to the nearest radioactive spiders!:awesome: Who's with me!

A flawed argument to be sure.

Fiction, literature, and storytelling has long shown that fantastic elements grounded by realism and organic familiarity work to not only enhance the fantastic, but to build a bridge between the fake and the real.

To say that one buy-in of the non-realistic demands a complete, or rather loose, adherence to realism is idiotic...and has no basis other than to prove some other point that has nothing to do with the present argument.

All great fantasy cinema restrain themselves to rules, and only abuse the fantastic when necessary. When the fantastic just warrants more fantastic, you get something like the last season of Lost, where anything from Lazarus pits, magic lighthouses, time travel, among other non-realistic elements are fair game because "Hey, we already accepted the polar bear on the island and the smoke monster." You get Die Another Day, where things don't need to make sense because your audience bought the most recent unrealistic, inane plot point. You get A-Team. And almost always these plot points are contrived for the sake of themselves, and not because they have any real impact on the film's emotional or substantive quality. Basically, you get sloppy storytelling that tries to use gimmicks and flashy fantasy instead of real storytelling.

So a radioactive/genetic spider is unrealistic, yes. Does it mean the entire thing must be unrealistic or toss away realism? Certainly not. In fact, again adn again, storytelling has shown using the one unrealistic thing in a realistic fashion is what gets people fascinated. It makes them feel like this could -- possibly in some weird way -- possibly happen. It blurs the lines between fantasy and reality and draws your audience in...something that film is meant to do. The radioactive spider is so compelling and mysterious when it POPS AGAINST our real world, a world where not everything can happen, where there are rules and routine and mundanity. When he gets bit by a radioactive spider in a world where fantasy rules, Spider-man and Parker's extraordinary journey become something common...and far from the fantastic and unreal adventure that it should be.

Going "hey, it's a radioactive spider, so let's screw realism" is the same type of thinking that inevitably ends in the hodge-podge of unrealistic elements and sloppy storytelling that was X-Men The Last Stand or X-Men Origins. "Hell, they've already bought that mutants exist, why should they complain when we mix a mutant all together and have them inexplicably appear at the end of the movie?" "BUt that's not realistic sir?" "Yeah, but it's a comic book movie. So what?"

It's patronizing to think that all realism should be thrown out just because you're audience bought one or two fantastic elements.

Like I said, your argument is so fundamentally flawed it's sad.

[craigdbfan]

I don't see them.

It's there. Just look at one of the higher def pictures with the brightness setting up.

You'll see it.

[Aesop Rocks]

Tobey looks like a 606 Peter and Andrew looks like an Ultimate Peter.

[Excelsior.]

Why? Look at Iron Man. Look at Raimi's Spider-Man. Look at Captain America.I understand IronMan and Raimimanm but Cap looks nothing like 616 cap.

[Spidey_62]

I'd need to see a better shot of the legs of the suit to make an opinion on the red streaks, which is the only thing that I'm not too sure of. It all depends on how it was executed; the rest of the suit looks really sleek in that regard, though.

[chaseter]

A flawed argument to be sure.

Fiction, literature, and storytelling has long shown that fantastic elements grounded by realism and organic familiarity work to not only enhance the fantastic, but to build a bridge between the fake and the real.

To say that one buy-in of the non-realistic demands a complete, or rather loose, adherence to realism is idiotic...and has no basis other than to prove some other point that has nothing to do with the present argument.

All great fantasy cinema restrain themselves to rules, and only abuse the fantastic when necessary. When the fantastic just warrants more fantastic, you get something like the last season of Lost, where anything from Lazarus pits, magic lighthouses, time travel, among other non-realistic elements are fair game because "Hey, we already accepted the polar bear on the island and the smoke monster."

So a radioactive/genetic spider is unrealistic, yes. Does it mean the entire thing must be unrealistic or toss away realism? Certainly not. In fact, again adn again, storytelling has shown using the one unrealistic thing in a realistic fashion is what gets people fascinated. It makes them feel like this could -- possibly in some weird way -- possibly happen. It blurs the lines between fantasy and reality and draws your audience in...something that film is meant to do.

Going "hey, it's a radioactive spider, so let's screw realism" is the same type of thinking that inevitably ends in the hodge-podge of unrealistic elements and sloppy storytelling that was X-Men The Last Stand or X-Men Origins. "Hell, they've already bought that mutants exist, why should they complain when we mix a mutant all together and have them inexplicably appear at the end of the movie?" "BUt that's not realistic sir?" "Yeah, but it's a comic book movie. So what?"

It's patronizing to think that all realism should be thrown out just because you're audience bought one or two fantastic elements.

Like I said, your argument is so fundamentally flawed it's sad.

You are talking about realism in a world where people have super powers. The movie being more realistic because Peter Parker made his own costume but then climbing out his bedroom window and swinging to fight a lizard man isn't realistic.

I find that argument flawed. It's great that you like a more realistic suit to you, but don't say that him making the suit makes the movie more realistic and therefore better. The only superhero movie with any hints of realism and a realistic take is Nolan's Batman.