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Aesop Rocks
01-14-2011, 12:35 AM
lol edit

SpideyVille
01-14-2011, 12:35 AM
Sometimes people take things to the extreme ... but that doesn't stop something like that pic from being hilarious. :funny:

spida-man
01-14-2011, 12:36 AM
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3739/spidermangarfieldfirstp.jpg

look to the left of the pic near the thumb and you'll see a little bit of the red area on the pants (and no it's not the glove reflecting on the pants)

Gold Samurai
01-14-2011, 12:36 AM
Point me to the nearest radioactive spiders!:awesome: Who's with me!

Tell us how that turns out

http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/7448/23250.jpg

PreK
01-14-2011, 12:38 AM
A flawed argument to be sure.

Fiction, literature, and storytelling has long shown that fantastic elements grounded by realism and organic familiarity work to not only enhance the fantastic, but to build a bridge between the fake and the real.

To say that one buy-in of the non-realistic demands a complete, or rather loose, adherence to realism is idiotic...and has no basis other than to prove some other point that has nothing to do with the present argument.

All great fantasy cinema restrain themselves to rules, and only abuse the fantastic when necessary. When the fantastic just warrants more fantastic, you get something like the last season of Lost, where anything from Lazarus pits, magic lighthouses, time travel, among other non-realistic elements are fair game because "Hey, we already accepted the polar bear on the island and the smoke monster." You get Die Another Day, where things don't need to make sense because your audience bought the most recent unrealistic, inane plot point. You get A-Team. And almost always these plot points are contrived for the sake of themselves, and not because they have any real impact on the film's emotional or substantive quality. Basically, you get sloppy storytelling that tries to use gimmicks and flashy fantasy instead of real storytelling.

So a radioactive/genetic spider is unrealistic, yes. Does it mean the entire thing must be unrealistic or toss away realism? Certainly not. In fact, again adn again, storytelling has shown using the one unrealistic thing in a realistic fashion is what gets people fascinated. It makes them feel like this could -- possibly in some weird way -- possibly happen. It blurs the lines between fantasy and reality and draws your audience in...something that film is meant to do. The radioactive spider is so compelling and mysterious when it POPS AGAINST our real world, a world where not everything can happen, where there are rules and routine and mundanity. When he gets bit by a radioactive spider in a world where fantasy rules, Spider-man and Parker's extraordinary journey become something common...and far from the fantastic and unreal adventure that it should be.

Going "hey, it's a radioactive spider, so let's screw realism" is the same type of thinking that inevitably ends in the hodge-podge of unrealistic elements and sloppy storytelling that was X-Men The Last Stand or X-Men Origins. "Hell, they've already bought that mutants exist, why should they complain when we mix a mutant all together and have them inexplicably appear at the end of the movie?" "BUt that's not realistic sir?" "Yeah, but it's a comic book movie. So what?"

It's patronizing to think that all realism should be thrown out just because you're audience bought one or two fantastic elements.

Like I said, your argument is so fundamentally flawed it's sad.
It would be so comforting if this were condensed into a simple and condensed phrase, as to easier counter the misinterpretations of terms such as 'gritty', 'realistic', and 'grounded'.

Verisimilitude just doesn't seem to cover the complexities behind the foundations you've eloquently explained. Agreed all the same however. :up:

chaseter
01-14-2011, 12:38 AM
No.

Ohkay

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8447/spidermanspiderbite.jpg

Aesop Rocks
01-14-2011, 12:38 AM
That's actually what chaster looks like, an old lady crying.

chaseter
01-14-2011, 12:39 AM
That's actually what chaster looks like, an old lady crying.

Wait until I turn into Aunt Carnage.

craigdbfan
01-14-2011, 12:39 AM
lol guys.

Majik1387
01-14-2011, 12:41 AM
Ohkay

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8447/spidermanspiderbite.jpg
Tobey is ugly, that drawing of Peter is ugly, but it does not mean that Tobey looks like Peter.

nocomics
01-14-2011, 12:42 AM
I voted 'reserve judgment' on it as I would like to see it in different scenes and in action,but too me its the actor that fills it out also makes or breaks the suit...

Aesop Rocks
01-14-2011, 12:43 AM
>implying Tobey is ugly
>is right when you compare him to Garfield

chaseter
01-14-2011, 12:44 AM
Tobey is ugly, that drawing of Peter is ugly, but it does not mean that Tobey looks like Peter.

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7997/tobeymaguirei.jpg

craigdbfan
01-14-2011, 12:45 AM
Oh come on now guys.

Tobey isn't bad looking. A lot of girls I know find (found) him hot at one point.

CurlehMustachio
01-14-2011, 12:46 AM
I voted 'reserve judgment' on it as I would like to see it in different scenes and in action,but too me its the actor that fills it out also makes or breaks the suit...

Likewise. I rather see it in action or just more pictures of it in different settings. I liked Raimi's versions, so I'm hoping thing one brings something slightly different to the table.

bosef982
01-14-2011, 12:46 AM
You are talking about realism in a world where people have super powers. The movie being more realistic because Peter Parker made his own costume but then climbing out his bedroom window and swinging to fight a lizard man isn't realistic.

I find that argument flawed. It's great that you like a more realistic suit to you, but don't say that him making the suit makes the movie more realistic and therefore better. The only superhero movie with any hints of realism and a realistic take is Nolan's Batman.

And what just happens to be one of the most successful -- if not THE MOST successful -- comic book movie franchise of all time?

And I would argue that the first two X-Men embrace realism too, and restrain themselves whenever possible to challenge themselves.

I never said that him making the suit alone makes the movie better. In fact, I made not one comment on the quality of this film.

I said I like the suit because it looks like something someone could make, and if I think of Peter Parker existing in our world -- if such a thing could happen -- I imagine he'd have to make his own suit.

Don't put words in my mouth to try and make an argument you can win.

Also, this is all basic step-by-step formula, and it's the reason nearly all fan fiction fails. They don't question the material:

Is it realistic that a boy would take a field trip? Yes.
Is it realistic that a boy could get in an accident at that field trip? Yes.
Is it realistic that some scientific process causes a spider to contiminate a being? Yes.
Is it realistic that that boy will get super-powers? No.

But see, you already have your auidence embedded in the realism of it that the last part, you get get pass. This is writing 101, people. Everyone from Aristotle to Harold Pinter would spell that out for you, and although we live in a society where being a blogger apparently makes you rival those two aforementioned geniuses, I'd say their's is the safest best.

But now let's go to the suit? Having these powers, is it realistic that this person would find and make a perfect, movie-quality, ultra-expensive suit?

Well, no. Why? 1 -- having superpowers has nothing to do with getting a suit of the quality that Raimi's Spider-Man magically appeared with. So to say A leads to B makes no sense.

But, now being a teeanger with some science background, could I believe he could make a pretty good suit from parts and...even still...mechanical webshooters? Yeah, I could get on board that.

You're linking one unrealistic element to another unrealistic element when one does not lead naturally to the other. When film's do this, you instantly sense it and they almost awlays feel awkward and contrived.

Gold Samurai
01-14-2011, 12:48 AM
And so for the next year the community of Superherohype fought and fought over the new spiderman suit until the event.............the debut of Zack Snyders Superman suit.


All this has happened and will happen again...

craigdbfan
01-14-2011, 12:50 AM
You know what they say.

"History doesn't repeat itself it just rhymes"

chaseter
01-14-2011, 12:58 AM
And what just happens to be one of the most successful -- if not THE MOST successful -- comic book movie franchise of all time?

And I would argue that the first two X-Men embrace realism too, and restrain themselves whenever possible to challenge themselves.

I never said that him making the suit alone makes the movie better. In fact, I made not one comment on the quality of this film.

I said I like the suit because it looks like something someone could make, and if I think of Peter Parker existing in our world -- if such a thing could happen -- I imagine he'd have to make his own suit.

Don't put words in my mouth to try and make an argument you can win.

Also, this is all basic step-by-step formula, and it's the reason nearly all fan fiction fails. They don't question the material:

Is it realistic that a boy would take a field trip? Yes.
Is it realistic that a boy could get in an accident at that field trip? Yes.
Is it realistic that some scientific process causes a spider to contiminate a being? Yes.
Is it realistic that that boy will get super-powers? No.

But see, you already have your auidence embedded in the realism of it that the last part, you get get pass. This is writing 101, people. Everyone from Aristotle to Harold Pinter would spell that out for you, and although we live in a society where being a blogger apparently makes you rival those two aforementioned geniuses, I'd say their's is the safest best.

But now let's go to the suit? Having these powers, is it realistic that this person would find and make a perfect, movie-quality, ultra-expensive suit?

Well, no. Why? 1 -- having superpowers has nothing to do with getting a suit of the quality that Raimi's Spider-Man magically appeared with. So to say A leads to B makes no sense.

But, now being a teeanger with some science background, could I believe he could make a pretty good suit from parts and...even still...mechanical webshooters? Yeah, I could get on board that.

You're linking one unrealistic element to another unrealistic element when one does not lead naturally to the other. When film's do this, you instantly sense it and they almost awlays feel awkward and contrived.

I am not trying to win arguments:huh: When I see people going on about a costume's realism but ignoring the fantastical elements in that world, I think that is funny. Hence my post about wanting to get superpowers. I don't think when anybody was reading the original run that birthed this great character we all know and love, they thought about how Peter couldn't possibly make a costume. Then again TDK, very realistic, but Bruce Wayne isn't a seamstress and neither is Lucius Fox. Nobody in Wayne Tech is going to make a full blown costume for Batman. So Bruce pieced together his suit. Yet people didn't sit in the theater and say Bruce couldn't have made that.

Bren
01-14-2011, 01:05 AM
There are (very few) specific pictures of me where I look quite handsome. Completely rubbish, I'm butt-ugly.

I'm hoping this is the reverse, and the suit is actually better looking. Don't think that'll be the case though, but hoping Garfield can out-spiderman the suit.

spida-man
01-14-2011, 01:07 AM
in regards to the whole "Spider-Man was emo in SM3" B.S

http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/5198645/I-AM-NOT-EMO.jpg?imageSize=Large&generatorName=Raging-Macguire

Kokomo29
01-14-2011, 01:10 AM
The blue of the new suit kinda looks like it has the same pattern as the old suit. This might be the dumbest question of all time, but is there any chance they used the old Tobey suit and just customized it to fit the needs of the new movie?

*runs away in fear*

Congo Jack
01-14-2011, 01:11 AM
Taking this costume as the final version of what it will look like, and not some battle-damaged version:

The Sam Raimi Spider-Man costume was almost perfect, with only the raised, silver webbing letting it down. This one, however, doesn’t even have webs - just generic cross-hatched lines. Factoring in that Raimi and his designers done the heavy lifting ten years ago, and that Andrew Garfield’s physique is a better match for Spidey than Tobey Maguire’s - it shouldn’t have been that hard to deliver an amazing looking costume. The lack of a belt on this is a huge design flaw and this costume looks all the worse for it. Steve Ditko knew what he was doing.

craigdbfan
01-14-2011, 01:14 AM
It's the 14th Zodiac sign!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently I'm no longer a Sagittarius, I'm an Ophiuchus or better known as Serpentarius.

I liked me old zodiac sign. My new one is to evil sounding and its element is evil looking too. Liked the half goat/half man guy way better than this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Rod_of_asclepius.png

Majik1387
01-14-2011, 01:16 AM
Apparently I'm no longer a Sagittarius, I'm an Ophiuchus or better known as Serpentarius.

I liked me old zodiac sign. My new one is to evil sounding and its element is evil looking too. Liked the half goat/half man guy way better than this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Rod_of_asclepius.png
Ditto.:csad:

But then I learned that the 13th Zodiac report came from FOX news, so I automatically ignored it, and then later on tonight it was debunked by an actual astrology expert.

craigdbfan
01-14-2011, 01:16 AM
The blue of the new suit kinda looks like it has the same pattern as the old suit. This might be the dumbest question of all time, but is there any chance they used the old Tobey suit and just customized it to fit the needs of the new movie?

*runs away in fear*

Sony was trying to save money so who knows. Maybe they threw the old costume into a conveyer belt to stretch out a bit for Garfield's build and called it a day.

Parquagh
01-14-2011, 01:17 AM
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2011/01/685ead787a576ee02e01cf270703dda7/original.jpg
Found this, made me laugh

freakin hilarious!!!!
Agreed with Congo Jack.
Hate the long spider legs, the blue seams in the gloves, the torso without webbing, the goddamn basketball texture, man what's cool about the suit its the simplicity of the design, failure...

craigdbfan
01-14-2011, 01:21 AM
Ditto.:csad:

But then I learned that the 13th Zodiac report came from FOX news, so I automatically ignored it, and then later on tonight it was debunked by an actual astrology expert.

Yeah saw the debunking on CNN and CBS. Its not really that he lied its more that this doesn't affect those in the western hemisphere zodiac system.

Its existed for a while now but us westerners use the tropical zodiac not the sidereel one. Whatever that means.

So we can still be whatever sign we were before or whatever.

Must have been a slow news day for all these major media outlets to source the Minnesota Tribune. :doh:

Majik1387
01-14-2011, 01:26 AM
They must have not seen the Spidey picture. That's definitely better news than fake Zodiac changes.:cwink::oldrazz:

DarkSuperman
01-14-2011, 01:28 AM
This definitely looks like the final suit to me. And a badass one at that. :up:

I don't see what the problem is. So, its a little different than the previous and albeit awesome Raimi suit, I still immediately recognize it as being Spidey.

My first thought when seeing the picture was "Wow, he looks awesome" then I noticed the few cosmetic changes to the suit. I'm used to it already. Everything is 100% exact on the Green Lantern suit, but i've grown to dig that one too.

(not relevant, but I'm on a completely different note with batman) :dry:

craigdbfan
01-14-2011, 01:30 AM
They must have not seen the Spidey picture. That's definitely better news than fake Zodiac changes.:cwink::oldrazz:

Truly. :word:

Aesop Rocks
01-14-2011, 01:31 AM
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2471/garfieldspiderman1.jpg

Hole Shot
01-14-2011, 01:32 AM
I thought the suit was pretty gross at first but it's already starting to grow on me.

I'm ok with the webbing fading because if I was making my own Spider-Man suit doing the webbing would get tedious and I'd give up too. And that's what it looks like to me, Peter's first attempt/work in progress Spidey suit.

I actually liked the organic web shooters in the original, it was a good move to keep the story moving along and made it easy for the non-comic fans to digest the character.

However, I'm really stoked they're going with the real thing this time. It's an element that will give the new story and character something fresh to tell on screen.


and the Spalding suit is classic!

WildcatNC
01-14-2011, 01:39 AM
I like the new suit guys. I kind of like the belt manip better but we'll have to see it in action really. I think its odd that there is a little of the red belt but it doesn't seem to come around the front.

I'd like to see a full 360 degree image.

I liked the old suit. I like the new suit.

Different looks but I like them both.

craigdbfan
01-14-2011, 01:39 AM
Taking this costume as the final version of what it will look like, and not some battle-damaged version:

The Sam Raimi Spider-Man costume was almost perfect, with only the raised, silver webbing letting it down. This one, however, doesn’t even have webs - just generic cross-hatched lines. Factoring in that Raimi and his designers done the heavy lifting ten years ago, and that Andrew Garfield’s physique is a better match for Spidey than Tobey Maguire’s - it shouldn’t have been that hard to deliver an amazing looking costume. The lack of a belt on this is a huge design flaw and this costume looks all the worse for it. Steve Ditko knew what he was doing.

Incredibly well said.

Just to many aspects that act as a turn off. Useless seams, half melted webbing, daddy long legs insignia, porous texture, lack of red arrow belt, asymmetrical lining.

I mean thats just way to much to overlook after getting something like this:

http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/spider-man-2_l.jpg

KILLING JOKER
01-14-2011, 01:42 AM
My first reaction is that this is a great picture and I love the suit. When I first saw the Raimi suit I thought it looked good but I always felt a little let down by it. It seemed a little too perfect and shiny. This obviously looks more realistic considering the story of the costume and there's some depth to it. I don't know. I really like it.

routhman
01-14-2011, 01:44 AM
It is unfortunate for those who do not like the suit. That said, I think it's a bit of a shock for some people right now, and in time, I expect many people to come around to it. Personally, I think the suit looks very cool, gritty, and organic.

Kurt Wagner
01-14-2011, 01:49 AM
How so??,How could it be fair to fully compare shots from the last 3 movies to this one shot??.....I mean it don't even show the whole suit from past the knees or before getting into a battle!.

I just think people should wait for a 2nd shot and especially in motion from at least a trailer!,Yes this is pretty clear shot But there's no mask here and not a much clean version of the suit.

Are you serious? I don't need to see that suit to know it sucks. That red torso portion is phallic. Every time Spidey is crouching in one of his signature poses, it's screaming, "hey audience members, look at my spidey crotch!" No thank you. The red belt section helped separate the torso and leg sections of the costume, thereby minimizing that.

Saint
01-14-2011, 01:50 AM
Incredibly well said.

Just to many aspects that act as a turn off. Useless seams, half melted webbing, daddy long legs insignia, porous texture, lack of red arrow belt, asymmetrical lining.

What do you mean by "asymmetrical lining" and "half melted webbing?" Nothing on the costume is asymmetrical, and I don't see "half melted webbing." The suit's clearly dirty and has had some of it's finish scrapped off by whatever hell Peter's been put through, but it would seem pretty dubious to criticize the suit for being banged up.

Kurt Wagner
01-14-2011, 02:02 AM
Have you heard, this is a reboot, with none of the same actors, directors, or costumes.

I liked the Raimi costume too. But I love the new one as well.

I don't understand all the hate. I think it's denial or something.

Let me break it down for you. All the hate for this costume comes from primarily the lack of respect towards the classic costume. The red and blue are fine. But what makes the costume classic is the proportions of red and blue on the suit, along with the classic web pattern on the red portions. raimi's version had the classic look, while incorporating changes, such as raised silver webbing.

This new costume doesn't respect the classic look. It's simply change for the sake of change. It's change because Sony wanted a reboot after Spider-Man 4 didn't work out. It's change just to separate it from Raimi's Spider-Man. It's not inspired change... and that's another reason why it sucks ass.

Mary Jane Watson
01-14-2011, 02:03 AM
Wow, I havent been here in superhero hype for for long.
Well, I am kinda disappointed that they didnt stick to the original one that we used to love. But, this new suit is def very modern to me. which it is good thing
Okay guys, think... compare..
If all people in world havent heard about spider man before ( for example), what would they pick original one or new one. In my option i think they probably would pick the new. Maybe i am wrong. I am just saying that i think we need to open up and think fresh. Just thinking about that.
So as a comic book fan my major complaint is how they change so much of what made the characters who they were. my point...comic book fans are the only people who are going to care THAT MUCH about something that really isn't all that much of a big deal to most people.
Like belt and arrow, glove...isnt THAT big deal to other people.
Also when i saw that pics...wow i was like holy ****, andrew loooks like peter!! <3


BTW, I am girl and i love andrew's hair :)

rcazzy
01-14-2011, 02:04 AM
I like the new suit...like KILLING JOKER just said, it has some much needed depth. I do miss the red going around the waist though. I already prefer it too the Raimi suit, not so flash and Andrew really helps it with his body shape. The mask is next to see...pray for more rounded eyes! :D

I personally hope it's a case of suit improvement over the course of sequels and stuff too. The etched in webs with us ending up with a classically styled Spidey suit in the manner of this promo image.

JamalYIgle
01-14-2011, 02:04 AM
I added some webbing to the midsection and made the mask look closer to the rest of the suit. I don't make manips often (i prefer drawing from scratch) but i'm starting to have some fun :)

How does this work for you all? I think i'll play with the gloves for you guys later.
(in an effort to keep the thread on track, i guess i'll start posting these in the manips thread from now on)


http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz107/BlueEasy/garfieldspiderman-2.jpg

I'd be happier if it looked like this. I think it's the texture that still bothers me. it looks to complicated to be made by a teenager.

Mary Jane Watson
01-14-2011, 02:05 AM
sorry about my grammar...just in a case ;)

Mary Jane Watson
01-14-2011, 02:08 AM
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2471/garfieldspiderman1.jpg
amazing....:wow:

Ajendo
01-14-2011, 02:09 AM
Very well put Venom. The same people whining about raised silver webbings are drooling over this...wtf????

At least you can't complain or use the, "they don't like change" as an argument.:o

craigdbfan
01-14-2011, 02:14 AM
What do you mean by "asymmetrical lining" and "half melted webbing?" Nothing on the costume is asymmetrical, and I don't see "half melted webbing." The suit's clearly dirty and has had some of it's finish scrapped off by whatever hell Peter's been put through, but it would seem pretty dubious to criticize the suit for being banged up.

I see the dirt and the battle scars, I'm not including that in my assessment.

The webbing. Because it lacks black outlining in some of the lines while you can clearly tell it's only painted on top but is missing the same amount of attention on the sides. For example look at the area near his top right shoulder and compare how the black is painted on to the webbing less accurately than through the upper middle part of the costume.

http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/symbol.jpg

Nothing on the costume is asymmetrical

You sure about that? I see several asymmetrical aspects of the costume.

Lets start off with the webbing which turns less and less into webbing but more of a grid pattern as it gets closer to the groin. Thats where the asymmetry begins to kick in also check out the neck line. No grid line is identical to the one on its opposite side.

This furthers the messy amateurish look which I've said several times was more than likely intentional. There's even a subtle slant towards the left which implies someone who isn't familiar with designing costumes had the job of sewing or whatever explanation they use to create it.

Nice to see they are paying attention to that but I find it unnecessary if it means its going to detract from a more pleasing aesthetic albeit unbelievably designed costume that an 18 year wouldn't be able to do, fine.

I could suspend my disbelief if that were the case seeing as Peter Parker is a genius. The audience could give him the benefit of the doubt and say "Heck maybe tailoring is part of his scientific genius".

Also the glossy/rubbery porous texture of the costume doesn't help it which gives him a somewhat toy like feel to him. e.g (Not the design obviously as its a SM2 toy but to give you a reference of what I mean when I say "gloss"):

http://www.mwctoys.com/images/SPIDER2_SPIDEY_action17.jpg

Ajendo
01-14-2011, 02:15 AM
Earlier a respected member Spider-Man Hero

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uuCqsyqQObY/S9ZmqLeIlAI/AAAAAAAABEA/mHFRVjYAa2Q/s1600/YouMad.jpg

Spider-Fan
01-14-2011, 02:15 AM
The costume is meh. The Raimi suit was better. I think Garfield has a better Spider-Man physique than Tobey did (Tobey was more Romita vs Garfield's Ditko), but Tobey had a better Parker look than Garfield does and better costume.

hopefuldreamer
01-14-2011, 02:16 AM
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2471/garfieldspiderman1.jpg

amazing....:wow:

Seconded... just wow!

craigdbfan
01-14-2011, 02:20 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uuCqsyqQObY/S9ZmqLeIlAI/AAAAAAAABEA/mHFRVjYAa2Q/s1600/YouMad.jpg

No. You weren't even here let alone part of that discussion.

Don't know what signifies mad from calling Spider-Man Hero12 a respected member. The guy is class act.

Ajendo
01-14-2011, 02:44 AM
No. You weren't even here let alone part of that discussion.

Don't know what signifies mad from calling Spider-Man Hero12 a respected member. The guy is class act.

Poor boy, I've been here a good 8 years longer than you have and I know full well how spiderhero12 is treated.

craigdbfan
01-14-2011, 02:48 AM
Poor boy, I've been here a good 8 years longer than you have and I know full well how spiderhero12 is treated.

Who cares?

Seeing as you seem to be fond of pointless meme's:

http://webhollis.com/albums/Funny-Forum/Want_A_Cookie.jpg

Also when I said "You weren't even here" I meant that in the literal sense as you really weren't here when that discussion was taking place. Don't know how you interpreted that as an attack on your supposed seniority.

Parker Wayne
01-14-2011, 02:52 AM
*runs away from impending battle between Craig and Ajendo*

Fudgie
01-14-2011, 02:53 AM
The costume looks so great. Better than Raimi's.

Ajendo
01-14-2011, 02:53 AM
I like the costume but I need to see the whole thing in full. If this is indeed the final design, I have to give Webb credit for having the balls to make these changes knowing how rabid spidey fanboys can be. After the lynching Raimi got, you'd think the most they would have changed with regards to the costume would be the fabrics and materials used. Anyway, I need to see more.

craigdbfan
01-14-2011, 02:55 AM
*runs away from impending battle between Craig and Ajendo*

There is no battle. I've been on here to long anyway thats my cue to exit.

I've actually been creating worthwhile posts today, not dropping in randomly with a 4chan/IMDB style tomfoolery which adds nothing to the discussion.

*catches up with Parker Wayne towards exit door*

Lando81
01-14-2011, 02:56 AM
I dig it.

louiebling$
01-14-2011, 02:56 AM
I love that mask AR :up:

Parker Wayne
01-14-2011, 02:59 AM
The costume is meh. The Raimi suit was better. I think Garfield has a better Spider-Man physique than Tobey did (Tobey was more Romita vs Garfield's Ditko), but Tobey had a better Parker look than Garfield does and better costume.

To be honest, I don't understand making a definite costume comparison between the two yet, especially considering that we haven't seen this costume in motion nor have we even seen the mask. I love Raimi's costume, but I think I can love this costume too.

Personally, I think the basketball comparison is a bit ridiculous, along with comparing it to Raimi's costme (though the latter was inevitable), but that's just me.

Kurt Wagner
01-14-2011, 02:59 AM
I just realized, the suit is very reminiscent of sparkling vampire skin, and Garfield has the exact Edward hair in the pic. Anyone think they're going for a Twilight look?



God, lets hope not. A twilight version of spider-man fighting morbius?

Mace Bloodstone
01-14-2011, 03:00 AM
I have a feeling that the spider design on the back will cover the whole back.. just a hunch... gigidy!

Parker Wayne
01-14-2011, 03:00 AM
*catches up with Parker Wayne towards exit door*

What's up.

Parker Wayne
01-14-2011, 03:03 AM
I just realized, the suit is very reminiscent of sparkling vampire skin, and Garfield has the exact Edward hair in the pic. Anyone think they're going for a Twilight look?


That's not Edward hair haha. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Edward's hair points up, and hair is pointing down. I need to get my manhood back.

*goes to watch Expendables*

Aesop Rocks
01-14-2011, 03:06 AM
Fore-warning: I didn't make that, I found it.

Ponco_87
01-14-2011, 03:06 AM
anybody here surprised that they keep the symbol from the previous films? It's roughly integrated with the webpatern, but it's basically the same.

Lando81
01-14-2011, 03:09 AM
The funny thing is, pretty much everyone who dislikes it will totally dig it when they see it in action.

craigdbfan
01-14-2011, 03:16 AM
Will I like the action scenes? If well done, absolutely thats a no brainer.

There seems to be one major misunderstanding of the people who have a serious problem with the design of the costume. First impressions count and so far I haven't liked a thing about this costume. For example TDK is a great movie to the point where the 2nd Batman suits (one of the weakest) can be overlooked due to the movie being great. The same will apply to the Spider-Man reboot if its in fact a really good movie.

Nothing will change my mind on whether I find the costume appealing or not thats just something that either clicks with an individual or doesn't for me it didn't. I don't want to be mean because I realize a lot of people like the costume but I've tried letting it sink in but thats just not happening. If anything the more I look at the more I dislike it so I've just stopped looking at it altogether.

Still, I'm really looking forward to watch this movie. I'm also still somewhat excited about the mask which might redeem the costume for me if its awesome enough.

Spider-Aziz
01-14-2011, 03:19 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/wallyflash/garfieldspiderman1.jpg
As I first looked at it my initial thoughts were: "The suit looks half great, half decent, I'd like to see the maguire suit to see a true Spidey suit, cause it looks better"

Then I saw this
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7230/1spiderman3gal13.jpg
I know at least the blue & red are better in Garfield's costume, and I like how the lines aren't jumping out. I still don't like the extended legs in Garfield's costume, but I did start appreciating it more

I'll reserve judgment for now, and have my wishes for a trilogy that will be better IMO than Nolan's Batman

DeanJ2009
01-14-2011, 03:25 AM
In the picture i think the suit is wet and oddly lit, looking closer at the arms i think this suit will be alot more 'fabric' on screen than it looks in the photo here.

Spider-Aziz
01-14-2011, 03:25 AM
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2471/garfieldspiderman1.jpg
So, this is the true full version?
Amazing

craigdbfan
01-14-2011, 03:27 AM
No thats a manip its been toyed around with.

The original one is the one with Garfields head exposed. This has a mask added to it along with the inclusion of the red arrow belt.

We've yet to see the mask.

the gael
01-14-2011, 03:32 AM
I want to see the costume in action, but my first reaction is : terrible costume. Spidey looks like a godamn surfer from the 90's. Garfield may be an excellent spiderman, maybe better than tobey, but the costume didn't bring him justice

cryptic name
01-14-2011, 04:03 AM
I couldn't be happier with the suit. Garfield looks great, like Peter Parker come to life. Even in a still photo he looks fast and agile. Love how the suit captures a classic Spidey feel and yet looks incredibly modern. And those metallic pieces have to be webshooters. Just awesome.

PS- all the twilight comparisons need to stop. its completely baseless and inane. nothing about the suit is emo or angsty, it just makes you sound crazy.

AVEITWITHJAMON
01-14-2011, 04:44 AM
I want to see the costume in action, but my first reaction is : terrible costume. Spidey looks like a godamn surfer from the 90's. Garfield may be an excellent spiderman, maybe better than tobey, but the costume didn't bring him justice

Exactly my thoughts on first seeing, though I will reserve a bit of judgement until I see it in motion and with the mask.

Spider-ManHero12
01-14-2011, 04:55 AM
He may get a belt like this.........
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hF09r6XaLRo/TLRxdllHsPI/AAAAAAAAEOM/SN8Ry1rvv2s/s1600/spider-man+nick+hammond+costume+cbs+1977+marvel+comics+sp idey+live-action.gif.gif


http://captain-america.us/gallery/data/media/7/spidermantvshow.jpg
I would be so pissed of that was the case.

zanos
01-14-2011, 04:57 AM
I really need to see more of to make a proper evaluation. From what I can see, it looks pretty good; I wasn't sure how they were going to equal or top the original, but they make have accomplished it.

Eggyman
01-14-2011, 05:02 AM
I would be so pissed of that was the case.

Easy there, chuckles. :awesome:

Spider-ManHero12
01-14-2011, 05:17 AM
I don't know why, but I'm still getting the impression that this may not be the final suit. Maybe it was something to just hold us over?

Saint
01-14-2011, 05:18 AM
The webbing. Because it lacks black outlining in some of the lines while you can clearly tell it's only painted on top but is missing the same amount of attention on the sides. For example look at the area near his top right shoulder and compare how the black is painted on to the webbing less accurately than through the upper middle part of the costume.
As I said, clearly some of the finish (which is to say, the painted webs) has been scraped off the costume by whatever battle Peter's been in. Again, I think it's dubious to criticize the costume based on what appears to be damage it's sustained. It literally looks like Peter's been dragged across asphalt.

If we see a picture of the costume in good condition and it still looks as grungy (which I suppose is entirely possible), then we can come back to this, but for the time being I'm going to file it under battle damage.

You sure about that? I see several asymmetrical aspects of the costume.

Lets start off with the webbing which turns less and less into webbing but more of a grid pattern as it gets closer to the groin.
Since the costume has never been symmetrical vertically (that is to say, the bottom the same as the top), only horizontally, the fact that the webbing fades down the center makes it no more asymmetrical than it would have otherwise been.

Thats where the asymmetry begins to kick in also check out the neck line. No grid line is identical to the one on its opposite side.
They look symmetrical to me--you can follow each neck line up from his chest, and they all have a counterpart on the opposite side, I think some merely appear to be at different angles because of the way the costume is sitting on the body in that position.

There's even a subtle slant towards the left which implies someone who isn't familiar with designing costumes had the job of sewing or whatever explanation they use to create it.
I don't see any slant. Part of the spider is a little off center, but again, when you put a costume on a body, things like that are going to happen from time to time. It's not deliberate, or at least it doesn't appear that way to me.

uchiha_itachi
01-14-2011, 05:19 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/wallyflash/garfieldspiderman1.jpg
As I first looked at it my initial thoughts were: "The suit looks half great, half decent, I'd like to see the maguire suit to see a true Spidey suit, cause it looks better"

Then I saw this
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7230/1spiderman3gal13.jpg
I know at least the blue & red are better in Garfield's costume, and I like how the lines aren't jumping out. I still don't like the extended legs in Garfield's costume, but I did start appreciating it more

I'll reserve judgment for now, and have my wishes for a trilogy that will be better IMO than Nolan's Batman

wow seeing those two suits together...It makes Toby's costume look like a bad cosplay.

And I only say that because IMO its obvious that Andrew's Suit is half finished. No way would they half do the suit like it's done in that picture. This clearly is when he first makes what will become his propper costume but he didn't finish.

Spider-ManHero12
01-14-2011, 05:19 AM
Easy there, chuckles. :awesome: :hehe:

MOVIELORD101
01-14-2011, 05:38 AM
I'm REALLY liking the look of the new costume. Much more realistic looking than the one from the last 3 films.

hatebox
01-14-2011, 05:39 AM
They should have released a masked pic of him in an action pose. Deciding to make our first impression him a shot without a mask walking along a street looking broody was a very odd choice. A gentle introduction to the tone of the film?

Eggyman
01-14-2011, 05:44 AM
I think it's a good choice. They've given us an idea but not completely shot their wad.

Ipodman
01-14-2011, 05:46 AM
Maybe the marketing people wanted fanboys to start frantically guessing the villain... but apparently we are more interested in lighting, contrast and spider-belts

Gamma Ray
01-14-2011, 05:46 AM
It looks good. I don't know why people need to analyze every little detail. It's borderline insane.

I also think that the mask will make or break the costume.

Eggyman
01-14-2011, 05:48 AM
It looks good. I don't know why people need to analyze every little detail. It's borderline insane.

I also think that the mask will make or break the costume.

I agree. It's mainly the eyes I think they'll have pick with some care.

web_head83
01-14-2011, 05:52 AM
Not sure if this has been noted yet or not but anyone else notice the 2 shiny metal bits on the inside of his wrists? Mechanical shooters or something to just help him aim the organics?

Saint
01-14-2011, 05:52 AM
I agree. It's mainly the eyes I think they'll have pick with some care.

Yeah, the mask is really what makes Spider-Man, in my opinion.

The Riddler
01-14-2011, 05:53 AM
material looks great. coloring looks great.

what looks bad? gloves. not knowing if this is how it looks for most of the movie or if it looks incomplete because of the apparent damage sustained. also the symbol looks odd and the costume really needs the red belt-ish pattern.

a look at the mask would be nice.

Ipodman
01-14-2011, 05:55 AM
Not sure if this has been noted yet or not but anyone else notice the 2 shiny metal bits on the inside of his wrists? Mechanical shooters or something to just help him aim the organics?

Yea people have pointed out the two shiny stuffs on his hands, it's probably the webshooters I SAY...

hatebox
01-14-2011, 05:56 AM
The gloves look pretty final. At first I thought it was damage but they're both identically patterned.

Goran
01-14-2011, 06:07 AM
Maybe the marketing people wanted fanboys to start frantically guessing the villain... but apparently we are more interested in lighting, contrast and spider-belts

Now that you mention it: why are the cracks on his chest black?? I know they're probably ripped by claws but why would they be black?? Maybe the suit was "burned" by electric bolts ;)

Spider-Aziz
01-14-2011, 06:18 AM
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2011/01/685ead787a576ee02e01cf270703dda7/original.jpg

Only thing this dude is lacking is a basketball in his hand

The bag on the shoulder screams "Ultimate Spider-Man". At least I hope not a soul discovers the truth in the first movie

Thebumwhowalks
01-14-2011, 06:32 AM
^is the thread going to be clogged up with folk re-re-re-posting the mildly amusing basketball pic? lol, way to ruin a joke.

and as for the secret being revealed, it looks like we will be getting some more shots of an unmasked Spider-man in certain risky situations, much to the chagrin of the Raimi bashers who have moaned ad nauseum about those moments.

Next morning, I still think it looks good, but the gloves are of an awful design, looks like the kind of whacky lines you would get on kid's gloves that i wore when I was a toddler.

and I am starting to hope that the belt has been ripped off, surely he needs one to hold his cartridges anyway.

Thebumwhowalks
01-14-2011, 06:35 AM
Poor boy, I've been here a good 8 years longer than you have and I know full well how spiderhero12 is treated.

Just because a couple of asshats treat have treated the guy badly in the past does not mean he is not respected by a lot of members. That's more of a refection on the asshats than SMH. Sometimes it's easier to gang up on the nice guy.

Lunar_Wolf
01-14-2011, 06:35 AM
Looking at the damaged on the chest, it doesn't look like a claw mark, but more of a burn mark.

ModestMr.Green
01-14-2011, 06:40 AM
The suit looks really good up close. What I'm noticiing this morning, though, due in part to use of my wireless keyboard, is that it can look really busy and awful from afar.

Not that this is a real concern, since nobody's going to be watching this film on a computer screen whilst squinting, but yeah. Just saying.

Thebumwhowalks
01-14-2011, 06:42 AM
Looking at the damaged on the chest, it doesn't look like a claw mark, but more of a burn mark.

what it could be, is the lizard has ripped the costume, exposing the black material under the red that makes up the webbing. Because from the looks of the scratches on his face and costume, it seems like the aftermath of a Lizard scrap, i doubt it's anything to do with that proto Goblin guy.

B.A. Baracus
01-14-2011, 06:43 AM
Personally i'm still not sure on the new suit, I know i prefer the Raimi version better and always will.

I do find it odd though how only a few days ago pretty much everyone loved the Raimi costume yet those people are now bashing it.

Spider-ManHero12
01-14-2011, 06:53 AM
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3739/spidermangarfieldfirstp.jpg

look to the left of the pic near the thumb and you'll see a little bit of the red area on the pants (and no it's not the glove reflecting on the pants) I see that as well, but it could be just a seam.

Thebumwhowalks
01-14-2011, 06:55 AM
Personally i'm still not sure on the new suit, I know i prefer the Raimi version better and always will.

I do find it odd though how only a few days ago pretty much everyone loved the Raimi costume yet those people are now bashing it.

I have only been reading through this thread, but I don't see evidence of that at all. Everyone did not love the old suit, there have been many debates and slag offs of the old suit. I don't see any hypocritical comments here in that regard at all, just people weighing up what they like and don't, with some comparisons to the old suit and the comics.
You sir, are trying to start up some controversy.:cwink:

Anton Furst
01-14-2011, 07:03 AM
I don't like it for the simple reason that they have deviated from the classic look. I don't appreciate the changes.

I still look forward to the movie, but i have been burned a little...

spider-neil
01-14-2011, 07:05 AM
I don't know why, but I'm still getting the impression that this may not be the final suit. Maybe it was something to just hold us over?


it's the final suit and I actually think the picture we are seeing is after the final battle.

spider-neil
01-14-2011, 07:11 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/wallyflash/garfieldspiderman1.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7230/1spiderman3gal13.jpg


when the new suit is put next to the old suit the old suit looks almost cheap by comparison. definately like the new suit more.

that said, if the suit springs any more 'surprised' (red strip down the legs, the mask) that opinion my change.

hatebox
01-14-2011, 07:17 AM
It's not really comparing like with the like - the light in both pics is totally different and generates dissimilar moods. Garfield's shot has the luxury of appearing cinematic.

Spider-ManHero12
01-14-2011, 07:18 AM
it's the final suit and I actually think the picture we are seeing is after the final battle. Meh, I'm thinking it could be their first battle. Maybe he's going home injured/exhuasted from the first fight, etc. It could be the final battle though.

afan
01-14-2011, 07:18 AM
Gotta see the whole thing to judge.

JamalYIgle
01-14-2011, 07:23 AM
when the new suit is put next to the old suit the old suit looks almost cheap by comparison. definately like the new suit more.

that said, if the suit springs any more 'surprised' (red strip down the legs, the mask) that opinion my change.

Cheap?
Are you kidding?
I don't get how people are trying to now through the Raimi Spider-man suit under the bus considering that at the time it was a completely ground breaking design in terms of costuming, They managed to maintain a look consistent with the comics while keeping their lead actor and stunt men looking like they had the same build through a complex muscle suit that was light and flexible at the same time. That they invented a silkscreening process for the suit and laid the visible webbing down in a carefully controlled process.

ModestMr.Green
01-14-2011, 07:23 AM
Not exactly being discussed right now, but as far as the mask goes: anyone else get the feeling that the mask will have edgeless eyes, ala Scarlet Spider?

Immortalfire
01-14-2011, 07:24 AM
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2471/garfieldspiderman1.jpg

That's more like it.

Swordmaster
01-14-2011, 07:25 AM
I think you need a better shot of the Raimi suit to compare, because when it looked good (and when Tobey was in better shape, like in 2) it looked good. That shot, not so much.

***
Anyway, I love the material they're using on the suit, and the colors as well. As many have said, it's still recognizably Spider-Man while being different from the costume in the Raimi films. The only thing that bugs me is, like others, the lack of belt, and the blue by the gloves. Fill that in with red instead and it'd look outstanding.

And as for the context of the shot (assuming it is directly from the movie and the background isn't shopped in):

Obviously, he's just fought a supervillain, who I'm going to assume is The Lizard. Now, it could be the first fight, where he gets his ass kicked for the first time, hence his reaction. Or, it could be after the final battle with the death of George Stacy, and he's walking home depressed and all because he failed to save him.

Just a guess, anyway.

spider-neil
01-14-2011, 07:34 AM
Not exactly being discussed right now, but as far as the mask goes: anyone else get the feeling that the mask will have edgeless eyes, ala Scarlet Spider?


I think the eye goggles will be more transparent so you can see the actors eyes rather than solid white but not totally transparant like glasses.

B.A. Baracus
01-14-2011, 07:42 AM
At the moment i'm on the bench, its growing on me but i still prefer the Raimi version by a mile.

I was looking at the making of Spider-Man book yesterday, one of the mask ideas included a fibreglass mask/helmet that you could faintly see Parker through, could be a idea they'll consider for the reboot.

Whiskey Tango
01-14-2011, 07:50 AM
Photochopping in the little belt strip really does make it look a lot better.

Probably the peeps at Sony knew this and that's why they released a pic with a damaged, incomplete suit. Because while you're ranting and raging over the new suit, you're also thinking about their movie and helping spread the word.

Clever.

Kent
01-14-2011, 08:02 AM
I hope you guys understand that I didn't sift through 169 pages to find out, but did someone notice/discuss the potential webshooters (shiny metallic bits at the wrists)?

Troy_Parker
01-14-2011, 08:10 AM
I think people have said this before, but maybe his belt got ripped off in a battle with The Lizard or something..? :D

antonydelfini
01-14-2011, 08:10 AM
In my opinion, superhero costumes do not make or break the movies. See the Nolan's Bat films, different costume, but a great movie nonetheless. But with that in mind, I also believe that a costume that is faithful to the comics as much as possible brings bonus points to the movie. It adds to the wow/cool/awesome factor. There's something that tickles the fanboy in me when a live action costume is faithful and looks cool at the same time (see Iron Man and Spider-Man). Although the Dark Knight is better as a film than the Spidey films, the Spidey ones gets bonus points for having more faithful costumes. But as I said, it does not make or break the movie for me.

Having said that, I like this costume, very much, but it could have been more faithful. It's wrong to judge the costume through this pic because obviously Parker's just been to a battle with this one. I'll reserve judgment til I see it in motion.

When I compared the reboot pic to this: http://www.soundonsight.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/spiderman_2_movie_image_tobey_maguire__1_1.jpg, I believe that the Raimi costume is better. The reboot one both took away and added unnecessary stuff to the costume. It was perfect the way it is in the comics. But still, it's just a costume. Just like the reboot Parker hair and his fashion sense, these don't make or break a movie. They're just bonuses for a fanboy like me.

Troy_Parker
01-14-2011, 08:14 AM
Is it just me or does the spider logo (apart from the two legs going all the way down) look almost exactly like the one from the Raimi films? lol

batman11
01-14-2011, 08:22 AM
That's not Edward hair haha. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Edward's hair points up, and hair is pointing down. I need to get my manhood back.

*goes to watch Expendables*

...that was the joke... :csad:

chaseter
01-14-2011, 08:23 AM
I see Venom.

Eggyman
01-14-2011, 08:24 AM
I think people have said this before, but maybe his belt got ripped off in a battle with The Lizard or something..? :D

It does look like something'sn missing.

Is it just me or does the spider logo (apart from the two legs going all the way down) look almost exactly like the one from the Raimi films? lol

It does. It could be a homage, like the first suit in Batman Forever paying respect to the Burton suits.

chaseter
01-14-2011, 08:24 AM
when the new suit is put next to the old suit the old suit looks almost cheap by comparison.
Not really.

Hotwire
01-14-2011, 08:24 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/wallyflash/garfieldspiderman1.jpg
As I first looked at it my initial thoughts were: "The suit looks half great, half decent, I'd like to see the maguire suit to see a true Spidey suit, cause it looks better"

Then I saw this
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7230/1spiderman3gal13.jpg
I know at least the blue & red are better in Garfield's costume, and I like how the lines aren't jumping out. I still don't like the extended legs in Garfield's costume, but I did start appreciating it more

I'll reserve judgment for now, and have my wishes for a trilogy that will be better IMO than Nolan's Batman
These two images just make me think, why the hell did Tobey never have "mask-hair"?

Eggyman
01-14-2011, 08:25 AM
I see Venom.

I see a bimbo licking a bubble.

Eggyman
01-14-2011, 08:29 AM
These two images just make me think, why the hell did Tobey never have "mask-hair"?

He did. In that picture he's about to put the mask on.

chaseter
01-14-2011, 08:29 AM
I had time to think it over, taking away from my initial reaction and I still don't love it, but it's alright. I really like the colors and the blue fabric/detail is really good. I wish they would have done the same for the red. The red still looks rubbery to me. I hope the belt is entirely red. No yellow or blue please. Just make it all red. Still hate the gloves and I hope the boots aren't the same as the gloves...which they probably will be. The mask is really going to make it or break it for me. If it's like that manip above, then I will be okay with it. If the mask sucks then I am not going to even bother trying to convince myself to like it. That said, it won't affect how I judge the movie. I am fine with changes as long as the movie is good. If the movie sucks then I am going to go all out on it. I am indifferent about it at this point.

ultimatefan
01-14-2011, 08:32 AM
On the webshooters, I´m guessing a compromise maybe, where Peter produces the webs naturally, but uses the shooters to power it up/aim better.

spider-neil
01-14-2011, 08:35 AM
Not really.

in my opinion rather than a statement of fact.

chaseter
01-14-2011, 08:45 AM
These two images just make me think, why the hell did Tobey never have "mask-hair"?

Conan and Colbert have magic hair too. Colbert puts on crap and then his hair is perfect. Conan just gives a shake and it forms back to it's shape. They are in fact, aliens.

Ken-Kaniff
01-14-2011, 09:16 AM
Well, finally a PICTURE lol!

It looks interesting actually, I like it!

PreK
01-14-2011, 09:21 AM
Cheap?
Are you kidding?
I don't get how people are trying to now through the Raimi Spider-man suit under the bus considering that at the time it was a completely ground breaking design in terms of costuming, They managed to maintain a look consistent with the comics while keeping their lead actor and stunt men looking like they had the same build through a complex muscle suit that was light and flexible at the same time. That they invented a silkscreening process for the suit and laid the visible webbing down in a carefully controlled process.
"Cheap" -- in comparison. That sentence was structured as easy it could possibly be for the layman, I don't know why you misconstrued it.

This is generally how technology and modern design works. What was revolutionary of yesteryear falls to the wayside when put against a newer and improved model of today. I've gone through most of the posts in the threads, I don't think I've come across a single one that retroactively tried to erase what the Raimi suits were for its time.

RustyCage
01-14-2011, 09:24 AM
Something about that shot of Tobey makes him look like a stuffed animal. It just looks very... plush. :funny: Must be muscle padding.

Garfield looks sleek and vibrant and stylish. :up: Loving it.

I wanna see that costume in a comic, actually.

Naite22
01-14-2011, 09:33 AM
when the new suit is put next to the old suit the old suit looks almost cheap by comparison. definately like the new suit more.

that said, if the suit springs any more 'surprised' (red strip down the legs, the mask) that opinion my change.

Kinda funny, cause I was actually thinking something like that my self. But I wouldn't go as far as to call the old one "cheap". It's just so "clean", classical and "kid-friendly", whereas the new one is looking more badass and "mean". I like the new one better as well, I must admit.

Spider-ManHero12
01-14-2011, 09:36 AM
In my opinion, superhero costumes do not make or break the movies. See the Nolan's Bat films, different costume, but a great movie nonetheless. Well, to be fair, Batman has had different/modified looks over the years. Spider-Man's suit, while having minor tweaks, has still pretty much remained the same except for the big Mcfarlane eyes, changes of webbing on the costume, etc. Just minor things like that. Batman's outfit has been changed over the years.

b_cas_8907
01-14-2011, 09:45 AM
After almost a day to soak it up and ponder, I'm convinced that I like the suit a lot! They had to do something a little different, which I understand. Aside from raised webbing and a few other contrasting details, the Raimi suit WAS the original, classic Spidey. Even if this change in suit is primarily an incentive for the general audiences, I can repsect it. This suit has an upgraded/organic look to it, yet still captures the essence of the classic suit IMO.

--{SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC ALERT}--

Aside from the suit, I think they are trying to follow the source material pretty closely. Not much has been released as far as the story; however, just looking at Pete's build and realizing that Gwen Stacy is in the FIRST movie speaks volumes to me, at this point!

Spider-ManHero12
01-14-2011, 09:49 AM
Is it just me or does the spider logo (apart from the two legs going all the way down) look almost exactly like the one from the Raimi films? lol Yeah, it does. It's a nice little nod.

Spider-ManHero12
01-14-2011, 09:55 AM
I doubt it's a knowing nod to the old films, more likely there are only so many ways to do the chest spider ......Could be that as well, lol.

Naite22
01-14-2011, 09:59 AM
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2471/garfieldspiderman1.jpg
So, this is the true full version?
Amazing

If I didn't know any better, I'd buy that for authentic as well! Looks ****ing sweet!

Spider-Who?
01-14-2011, 10:00 AM
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2471/garfieldspiderman1.jpg
So, this is the true full version?
Amazing


HA! Glad I could trick somebody! :) No, this is a manip I made last night. Aesop just brightened it for some reason....(i know i didn't take the photo, but try to give the manip creaters credit where it's due, man...)

here's my original manip...

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz107/BlueEasy/garfieldspiderman-2.jpg

Batcouille
01-14-2011, 10:01 AM
skinny as my 8 years old sister... how intimidating... costume's cool, though!

Gianakin_
01-14-2011, 10:02 AM
Spidey's not supposed to be intimidating.

Spider-Who?
01-14-2011, 10:03 AM
skinny as my 8 years old sister... how intimidating... costume's cool, though!
i think it's supposed to be wet - if you look at other portions of the costume, it's not nearly as shiny.

Countfaggington
01-14-2011, 10:04 AM
Spidey's not supposed to be intimidating.

This.

Gianakin_
01-14-2011, 10:06 AM
i think it's supposed to be wet - if you look at other portions of the costume, it's not nearly as shiny.

Looks like he got kinda owned by the Lizard.

Spider-Who?
01-14-2011, 10:07 AM
Looks like he got kinda owned by the Lizard.
here's hoping.

Whiskey Tango
01-14-2011, 10:09 AM
skinny as my 8 years old sister... how intimidating... costume's cool, though!

Spider-Man has always been thin. It isn't a new thing.

Batcouille
01-14-2011, 10:16 AM
Thin, ok... but i expect somehow a little V shape in the least... not an capital "i" shape!

Gianakin_
01-14-2011, 10:18 AM
There's definitely a "V" shape, it's just that his left part is covered in shadow, but you can see it in his left part (can't believe I'm saying that stuff).

Batcouille
01-14-2011, 10:20 AM
maybe so, but i shouldnt be looking for it, it should jump in my face!

Eggyman
01-14-2011, 10:22 AM
I hear you, Gianakin. His left part is like his right part but on the other side of his middle part.

B.A. Baracus
01-14-2011, 10:22 AM
not to go off topic, but people keep mentioning Lizard, he's not yet confirmed though is he? (aside from the casting of his son).

chaseter
01-14-2011, 10:25 AM
not to go off topic, but people keep mentioning Lizard, he's not yet confirmed though is he? (aside from the casting of his son).

Lizard is not confirmed but Connors pretty much is. For all we know, Lizard could be set up to be the baddie for the next movie. But I would say it's a safe bet he will be the villain in the movie.

B.A. Baracus
01-14-2011, 10:31 AM
Thanks.

Mary Jane Watson
01-14-2011, 10:35 AM
If Spider man is that skinny, we should see his higghh spider speed. like dogde all the bullets, good spider sense than sam's spider man.

And, i have noticed that marc seems try to make his movie different than sam's.
example: mary jane vs gwen stacy
organic web vs mech web
original suit vs new suit
after high school vs still in high school.

Gianakin_
01-14-2011, 10:37 AM
maybe so, but i shouldnt be looking for it, it should jump in my face!

Well, 1.I think it's pretty obvious and 2.it's not a requirement for me, so...

Daybreak_st
01-14-2011, 10:45 AM
material looks great. coloring looks great.

what looks bad? gloves. not knowing if this is how it looks for most of the movie or if it looks incomplete because of the apparent damage sustained. also the symbol looks odd and the costume really needs the red belt-ish pattern.

a look at the mask would be nice.

I think they took some inspiration from some other versions of the suit he's had in the comics. LIke when Ben Reily was Spider-man:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/36089/760374-sm06_super.jpg

no belt, the gloves have blue and red, larger spider in the middle

And Maybe a little from the Alex Ross deisgn.

http://images52.fotki.com/v641/photos/2/25718/4823493/spiderman4-vi.jpg

So they borrowed a few elements without completely diverging from the original. It's more than acceptable to me as a way to differentiate from the previous trilogy. They've come up with a design that is different yet faithful. Nice.

zackylu
01-14-2011, 10:46 AM
Hey, maybe thats like his 'first costume' As in the picture, we can clearly see a bag and why would spidey carry a bag around? So maybs his uncle ben died or something or something else tragic occured? Just a thought! :D

Spider-ManHero12
01-14-2011, 10:50 AM
Lizard is not confirmed but Connors pretty much is. For all we know, Lizard could be set up to be the baddie for the next movie. But I would say it's a safe bet he will be the villain in the movie. Yeah, not to mention the fact that spidey has claw marks on his suit.

Alex The Great
01-14-2011, 10:53 AM
Now, if we can just get some sinister eyes up in this ***** i'll be perfectly happy with this suit

superkong 500
01-14-2011, 10:54 AM
I don't know if people have noticed but I think is cool how the suit has a light blue color tone but black texture on top to make it look like its dark blue.

Also Iam thinking that what was torn off by whoever spidey was fighting(lizard) wasn't just a spandex red piece but an actual cartridge belt.

I'm thinking that lizard saw that when spidey runs out of web he presses to shot but instead of web the mechanism is programed if you will to just shot the cartridge out when its empty and then spidey takes a cartridge and places it in the cartridge holder just like you would replace a gun magazine. So lizard ripped the belt from him when he noticed that the belt was feeding web to him.

Heck it would be cool if the holder was magnetic and spidey slided his wrist on the belt over the cartridge and it felt into place ready to shoot!

Random490
01-14-2011, 10:58 AM
HA! Glad I could trick somebody! :) No, this is a manip I made last night. Aesop just brightened it for some reason....(i know i didn't take the photo, but try to give the manip creaters credit where it's due, man...)

here's my original manip...

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz107/BlueEasy/garfieldspiderman-2.jpg
Damn good manip, the suit looks a million times better with the red belt. I decided to see what this would look like without the backpack or background

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a225/Random490/garfieldspiderman2.jpg

RustyCage
01-14-2011, 11:09 AM
His head looks a little small compared to Garfield's in that manip.

Chris Wallace
01-14-2011, 11:11 AM
What's up with that midsection? The webbing doesn't look like webbing. I'm not feeling the gloves. At all. The texturing is overdone. The symbol is all wrong. I do not like this costume.

Pumpkin_Bomb
01-14-2011, 11:11 AM
I'm glad to see some people are coming around on it. People are entitled to nitpick, I know I always do (and did with the Raimi version) but I'm glad that people seem to at least recognize that any issues with this suit are comparatively minor.

Myself, I really like this suit, even if what we're seeing is incomplete. I kind of like the 'slash' of blue in the gloves. As far as the lack of a belt is concerned, as of now, I'm one of the ones assuming that it's been torn off in the fight. Not only is there that as-yet-unexplained patch of red on his left hip, but there are seams or lines of some kind on the suit that clearly trace the pattern of the belt, and I don't see a reason that those would be present if there wasn't supposed to be something there. That said, if I'm wrong, it's not a deal-breaker for me. I still think the suit looks awesome so far. Can't wait for a mask.

As for the material, I like it. Maybe it's because it reminds me of a motocross suit, and a lot of the 'real-life superheroes' out there use motocross suits as the base part of their suits. Regardless, I'm impressed so far, and I look forward to seeing more.

Spider-Who?
01-14-2011, 11:12 AM
His head looks a little small compared to Garfield's in that manip.


its really not - i overlayed the mask and morphed it to fit his head - its the hair that poofs out that makes the difference seem so extreme.

RustyCage
01-14-2011, 11:13 AM
^ Yeah, I pointed out Alex Ross' design before. Reilly certainly came to mind with the spider, but I had forgotten that some versions of him had the red abdominal area ending so high up (my action figure had it lower down, to the belt area as though he still had it but the blue was just all filled in with red). Good source pic. :up:

NinjaCarm
01-14-2011, 11:15 AM
Something about that shot of Tobey makes him look like a stuffed animal. It just looks very... plush. :funny: Must be muscle padding.

Garfield looks sleek and vibrant and stylish. :up: Loving it.

I wanna see that costume in a comic, actually.

I agree. You compare the two and Maguire looks like Spider-man needs to hire Jenny Craig fast, while Garfield is appropriately the sleek Spider-Man.

RustyCage
01-14-2011, 11:16 AM
The webbing doesn't look like webbing.

Webs can look lots of different ways. Sometimes they're made of straight lines, like the new costume, sometimes they have the classic Spidey droopy curve lines.

Spider-ManHero12
01-14-2011, 11:18 AM
I agree. You compare the two and Maguire looks like Spider-man needs to hire Jenny Craig fast, while Garfield is appropriately the sleek Spider-Man. Even though I like the new suit, this comment is one of the most supid comments i've ever heard. How in the hell is Tobey fat?! You're just looking for a reason to bash Raimi's classic Spider-Man suit.

NinjaCarm
01-14-2011, 11:18 AM
Webs can look lots of different ways. Sometimes they're made of straight lines, like the new costume, sometimes they have the classic Spidey droopy curve lines.

I can't BELIEVE the complaining about the webbing. It looks awesome. Everything about this costume says "sleek" as well as "gritty".

The webbing looks so intricate as you get to the lower torso, it's almost McFarlane-esque!

NinjaCarm
01-14-2011, 11:19 AM
Even though I like the new suit, this comment is one of the most supid comments i've ever heard. How in the hell is Tobey fat?! You're just looking for a reason to bash Raimi's classic Spider-Man suit.

You're mind is clouded dude, I never, NEVER bashed the Raimi suit, and you KNOW it. I made a comment, now back off. Maguire looked especially stubby and chubby in SM3, to me, period.

RustyCage
01-14-2011, 11:20 AM
I agree. You compare the two and Maguire looks like Spider-man needs to hire Jenny Craig fast, while Garfield is appropriately the sleek Spider-Man.

Well, I don't think he looks fat. He looks in good shape, his stomach is flat and stuff. It just looks like the padding is too thick so you can't see any of his definition.

It looks like a life-size Spider-man doll with a realistic head instead of a guy in a form-fitting spandex suit. That's all. :funny:

Ajendo
01-14-2011, 11:21 AM
Ok, I think Garfield just may end up having the Alex Ross mask.

NinjaCarm
01-14-2011, 11:22 AM
Ok, I think Garfield just may end up having the Alex Ross mask.

Why say you this Ajendro?

Spider-ManHero12
01-14-2011, 11:23 AM
You're mind is clouded dude, I never, NEVER bashed the Raimi suit, and you KNOW it. I made a comment, now back off. Maguire looked especially stubby and chubby in SM3, to me, period. ....I think you change your opinion alot, man. You said you liked the suit, yet you make fun of people who are fans of Raimi's suit, and then you say you liked once more. Pick an opinion and stick with it please. Back off? I'm not doing anything wrong. You're confusing. If you would make up your mind, it would be alot easier for me to understand.

RustyCage
01-14-2011, 11:23 AM
Ok, I think Garfield just may end up having the Alex Ross mask.

No complaints here. :up:

I kinda want him to have big, bright eyes to show some energy (something I felt the Raimi suit was lacking), but Ross' eyes are cool too.

RustyCage
01-14-2011, 11:24 AM
....I think you change your opinion alot, man. You said you liked the suit, yet you make fun of people who are fans of Raimi's suit, and then you say you liked once more. Pick an opinion and stick with it please. Back off? I'm not doing anything wrong. You're confusing. If you would make up your mind, it would be alot easier for me to understand.

He wasn't bashing the suit there, just Tobey. :funny:

Spider-ManHero12
01-14-2011, 11:24 AM
Ok, I think Garfield just may end up having the Alex Ross mask. Ehhh, I don't know about that. I mean, I suppose it would go along with the suit nicely, but I don't see it happening.

Spider-ManHero12
01-14-2011, 11:24 AM
He wasn't bashing the suit there, just Tobey. :funny: Look at his signature.

NinjaCarm
01-14-2011, 11:25 AM
....I think you change your opinion alot, man. You said you liked the suit, yet you make fun of people who are fans of Raimi's suit, and then you say you liked once more. Pick an opinion and stick with it please. Back off? I'm not doing anything wrong. You're confusing. If you would make up your mind, it would be alot easier for me to understand.

I guess I can be confusing sometimes, perhaps I don't convey my opinion as best as I should.

NinjaCarm
01-14-2011, 11:27 AM
Look at his signature.

Well it's true. People have to let go, that's why some people are having a tough time with this suit, they held the prior trilogy with such regard and have hard time letting it go. This reboot is happening. If they're going to see it, they give it up already. You can have your opinion sure, but when it comes down to it, it is what it is, this will be the new Spider-Man.

That's what I am pointing out.

Spider-ManHero12
01-14-2011, 11:30 AM
Well it's true. People have to let go, that's why some people are having a tough time with this suit, they held the prior trilogy with such regard and have hard time letting it go. This reboot is happening. If they're going to see it, they give it up already. You can have your opinion sure, but when it comes down to it, it is what it is, this will be the new Spider-Man.

That's what I am pointing out. That's not it. What people are getting upset about (including me) is how fans are trying to say that this new suit, although really cool, is more faithful to the comics than Raimi's was, which just is obviously not true snd fans are only doing so because they hate Raimi. This new suit is not intended to be like the comics. It's meant to be different, and that's one of the reasons I like it.

Ajendo
01-14-2011, 11:30 AM
Why say you this Ajendro?

It just looks like the sort of mask that would fit the rest of the suit. The smaller, more condensed eye lenses. I don't know but Ross' mask seems to compliment the look of this new costume.

Ajendo
01-14-2011, 11:32 AM
Ehhh, I don't know about that. I mean, I suppose it would go along with the suit nicely, but I don't see it happening.

Well, you've just agreed with the point I was conveying. I'm not saying they should go with Ross' design, I'm just saying they could as it looks to go well with the rest of the costume.

Gold Samurai
01-14-2011, 11:33 AM
You're mind is clouded dude, I never, NEVER bashed the Raimi suit, and you KNOW it. I made a comment, now back off. Maguire looked especially stubby and chubby in SM3, to me, period.

Are you sure you don't mean........."puffy"

:cwink:


http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1348/67644950.jpg

NinjaCarm
01-14-2011, 11:33 AM
That's not it. What people are getting upset about (including me) is how fans are trying to say that this new suit, although really cool, is more faithful to the comics than Raimi's was, which just is obviously not true snd fans are only doing so because they hate Raimi. This new suit is not intended to be like the comics. It's meant to be different, and that's one of the reasons I like it.

Well I never said it's more faithfull. I could care less if it is. Raimi's suit was, with the exception of the silver webbing.

This suit fits the bill, for this film. It blended classic costume with an update and differentiated itself quite well from the prior costume.

NinjaCarm
01-14-2011, 11:34 AM
Are you sure you don't mean........."puffy"

:cwink:


http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1348/67644950.jpg

u lost me with the Batman picture :dry:, however now that you bring it up, I was all weirded out when I saw the first Batman Begins costume I was like WTF????

Then I saw the film and it made sense and it was fine. Although I never understood his velvet cape....

Gold Samurai
01-14-2011, 11:36 AM
u lost me with the Batman picture :dry:

Oh it's a something people would say in the Batman forums that his suit looked

"teh Puffy"

NinjaCarm
01-14-2011, 11:37 AM
Oh it's a something people would say in the Batman forums that his suit looked

"teh Puffy"

I see, he is a little "puff" actually. lol

Spider-ManHero12
01-14-2011, 11:44 AM
Well I never said it's more faithfull. I could care less if it is. Raimi's suit was, with the exception of the silver webbing.

This suit fits the bill, for this film. It blended classic costume with an update and differentiated itself quite well from the prior costume. You could care less? The fact that it's more faithufl pretty much makes Raim's Spidey suit THE Spider-Man film suit. As for this new suit? It defentiely fits the tone of the new film. I really like it so far. I just hope the mask looks good.

shogunrua
01-14-2011, 11:47 AM
I voted "okay", because you still get the Spidey vibe from this suit, so it works for me. It just that, with the Cap's suit, Batman's suit, Wolverine's suit in X-Men, Green Lantern's suit and even Thor suit, I get the idea why they had to change it. But with Spidey suit, I really don't get the idea why they would have to change it (other than to just make some distance from the other trilogy), it's just that it's such an iconic suit, and it's been proven that he can work with his comic appearance in big screen, so I don't get the redesign. Again, it's really a minor complain, you still get it's Spidey and the suit won't make me not go see this movie :)

Now what I like about that shot, what looks like the webshooters, that's nice :) we can see a brand new Spidey dynamic on the big screen (because let's face it, there's no way he won't be out of web fluid at least once in the movie, it happened all the time in the comics lol), and Andrew Garfield looks really nice as Peter Parker, to be honest in just this shot, I got more the feeling I'm looking at peter Parker than in all three other Spider Man movies lol :)

So, for me, lots of win, a little fail :)

Galactus123
01-14-2011, 11:48 AM
I don't like it. I hate that webbing and why the waist area is not red? It looks dumb. Only a cool mask can save it. Raimi costume is much better

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/04/spiderman5.jpg

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/070615/action/spiderman2_l.jpg

Pumpkin_Bomb
01-14-2011, 11:50 AM
How can fans 100% like this but gripe over Raimi's Green Goblin Power Ranger suit? I'd like to know, personally from people, why the changes in the suit work for you but what Raimi did with Green Goblin didn't or some of his other changes?


Because this suit retains the spirit and basic design of the original. With the exception of the fact that it was green and had a goblin-like face, there was absolutely nothing about the Goblin costume in SM1 that was in any way relevant to the original. If not for the glider, it would have been damn near unrecognizable to a lot of fans.

And before I get some response saying "so you want a cloth halloween costume with a cheesy rubber mask instead," there are plenty of ways that the costume could have been updated/adapted for film/made more 'serious' or 'intimidating', whatever, without making it a monochromatic, shiny eyesore.

Galactus123
01-14-2011, 11:54 AM
Where is the stomach webbing? It looks weird.

storyteller
01-14-2011, 11:54 AM
The image from Spiderman 2 that has been posted is just a bad image. The blue and red are more muted then it was in the film. The Garfield image has obviously been color corrected. Pick a screen shot from Spiderman 1 or 2. Those really show off the suit and makes it look less cheap. The current one makes Tobey's suit look flat and ruins the detailing of the texture that Garfields suit gets to show off. Also that darker mood in his image contrasts with the clean not battle damaged Tobey.


I also think the stomach webbing is there but its not the traditional webbing pattern. Also the Green Goblin suit without the mask does lose the "its the green goblin vibe". I think they could have found a balance where he looked like a "goblin" but kept an under armor. Thats what Dr Doom essential does. He has a battle suit but covers with with a traditional robe.

Whiskey Tango
01-14-2011, 11:56 AM
Because this suit retains the spirit and basic design of the original. With the exception of the fact that it was green and had a goblin-like face, there was absolutely nothing about the Goblin costume in SM1 that was in any way relevant to the original. If not for the glider, it would have been damn near unrecognizable to a lot of fans.

And before I get some response saying "so you want a cloth halloween costume with a cheesy rubber mask instead," there are plenty of ways that the costume could have been updated/adapted for film/made more 'serious' or 'intimidating', whatever, without making it a monochromatic, shiny eyesore.

Example:

http://i51.tinypic.com/2ebzi1d.jpg

Visceral
01-14-2011, 11:59 AM
it looks like the same thing you idiots

Troy_Parker
01-14-2011, 11:59 AM
The new picture could be from this scene, kinda explains the depressed look and messed up costume...

"Spidey walks down a corridor and confronts The Lizard. Another battle develops. Spider-Man makes an attempt to talk to Curt when fighting the Lizard. However, The Lizard is merciless and continues attacking.

Peter is beat down after the fight. He heads home and to bed."

^ From the supposed plot leak.

RustyCage
01-14-2011, 12:00 PM
Example:

http://i51.tinypic.com/2ebzi1d.jpg

Win. :up: Epic win.

Oscorp
01-14-2011, 12:00 PM
I really love the new costume! At first glimpse I was like "huh??" but now I totally dig it! :up: and I love how Garfield looks so fit into it, his build is exactly like I wanted.

I, as many others have already said, also think his belt is missing (Lizard probably did it).

Oh, and when seeing this pic, it's clear that Sony also wants to show the tone of the film I think. It looks pretty dark indeed. And I like it tbh. And, when I see this pic, I SO want to have Green Goblin in the sequel. I'd love to see how this team would design his suit too.

A Necessary Evil
01-14-2011, 12:00 PM
And before I get some response saying "so you want a cloth halloween costume with a cheesy rubber mask instead," there are plenty of ways that the costume could have been updated/adapted for film/made more 'serious' or 'intimidating', whatever, without making it a monochromatic, shiny eyesore.

I know! We coulda had this!

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5276/1704308.jpg


UGH THANKS RAIMI.

nightwing06
01-14-2011, 12:02 PM
They mainly stuck to the same design except he has webshooters,and the spider on the suit has a graffiti look to it.

Gunga Diner
01-14-2011, 12:07 PM
I know! We coulda had this!

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5276/1704308.jpg


UGH THANKS RAIMI.
As a sincere Raimi fan, Pumpkin Bomb had a point. There could have been a much better compromise of the look with the Goblin costume, or at least something that would allow Dafoe to act through it much better.

RustyCage
01-14-2011, 12:07 PM
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/070615/action/spiderman2_l.jpg

Now there's a good comparison shot. :up: (2 ftw.)

I would've liked the blue and red to be a bit more vibrant (which the reboot suit approaches very tastefully) and the eye shape to convey more energy, but overall that material hugs nicely to him there and doesn't make him look like a plush doll like in the other shot we've been looking at. The webbing and classic style were also pulled together really nicely.

Yes, I liked the shiny silver web. :oldrazz:

Whiskey Tango
01-14-2011, 12:09 PM
Win. :up: Epic win.

I think that look would be most easily achievable using prosthetics and the understanding that in-universe it's a mask. But maybe it could be done as an actual mask, I don't know.

It's be rad if he ends up looking like that tho.

ModestMr.Green
01-14-2011, 12:11 PM
Tut tut. That just looks like Woody Allen in green facepaint.

RustyCage
01-14-2011, 12:18 PM
I think that look would be most easily achievable using prosthetics and the understanding that in-universe it's a mask. But maybe it could be done as an actual mask, I don't know.

It's be rad if he ends up looking like that tho.

Maybe he uses steam or some kind of gas to seal it onto his face so it better mimics his movements. :up:

Ajendo
01-14-2011, 12:23 PM
Now there's a good comparison shot. :up: (2 ftw.)

I would've liked the blue and red to be a bit more vibrant (which the reboot suit approaches very tastefully) and the eye shape to convey more energy, but overall that material hugs nicely to him there and doesn't make him look like a plush doll like in the other shot we've been looking at. The webbing and classic style were also pulled together really nicely.

Yes, I liked the shiny silver web. :oldrazz:

You do realise that's not Tobey in the costume right??

RustyCage
01-14-2011, 12:24 PM
You do realise that's not Tobey in the costume right??

That's not really relevant to my point.

Ajendo
01-14-2011, 12:28 PM
So? My comment was based solely on what was part of your post.

Troy_Parker
01-14-2011, 12:30 PM
I think that the picture's from after his first battle with the Lizard, maybe he ran out of web or something...? And decides to add the belt, which would hold the cartridges, nothing bulky, still sleek and slim, and would also give it a more finished and complete look. :D

RustyCage
01-14-2011, 12:36 PM
So? My comment was based solely on what was part of your post.

Just answering your question. :oldrazz:

Alex The Great
01-14-2011, 12:38 PM
I like the suit, but i'm waiting for the Mask to show for me to make a decision...

spideydave
01-14-2011, 12:38 PM
First impression: hate it. Waiting for a teaser trailer with Transformers 3 to see the damn thing in action

ben_reilly_s_s
01-14-2011, 12:41 PM
Web shooters look gold to me, though it could just be the light...
Have any of you seen the full size image of this?
I for one cannot stand this costume...
It looks ridiculous and absolutely terrible...
Garfield said when he put it on that he cried... After seeing this design, I know know why...

Alex The Great
01-14-2011, 12:44 PM
I thought he cried because it was a childhood dream realized?

ben_reilly_s_s
01-14-2011, 12:45 PM
Oh, and before anyone says anything.... I HATE / LOATHE all 3 Raimi movies.
The costume Tobey wore, at least had the main design correct, except for the colours and raised webbing...

CrazyForSwayze
01-14-2011, 12:45 PM
At least it looks plausably home-made, the Raimi suit looked far too clean and perfect, so that's something the new suit has going for it

Ajendo
01-14-2011, 12:46 PM
Just answering your question. :oldrazz:

Tuche :woot:

webhead731
01-14-2011, 12:46 PM
The new costume looks like a basketball. :p

I got it! They want to reach out to sports. They will make "Spidey basketballs" which carry the same colors and a spider symbol. It will look like authentic pieces of the suit. :D

ben_reilly_s_s
01-14-2011, 12:47 PM
Even more of a reason, i expect him to have wanted to suit up in the REAL spider-Man suit, and then they gave him this.....
His dream will never be realized...
I want to hear the opinions of the creators and artists about this suit design...
and not some bull***** opinion like we always get from them, kissin everyones as*

webhead731
01-14-2011, 12:48 PM
I know! We coulda had this!

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5276/1704308.jpg


UGH THANKS RAIMI.

YEAH RAIMI SUCKS. :cmad:

HE RUINED THIS FRANCHISE WITH HIS GOBLIN SUIT. IT COULD HAVE BEEN AMAZING, LIKE THIS ONE. :o :whatever: :p

ben_reilly_s_s
01-14-2011, 12:48 PM
How does this look homemade?
seriously, its so complicated...

webhead731
01-14-2011, 12:50 PM
I don't know why alot of people assume Peter made his suit in SM1. I mean, they never showed or told us anything, but we have evidence from the novel that says someone from the wrestling arena who was beaten by Bonesaw had it made for him as an appreciative gift or something to that effect.

End of that discussion, guys. :o

This new suit does not look homemade either, but if it's sloppy like that, it's more believable. The webs don't look like webs, and the seams are just not as well hidden.

CrazyForSwayze
01-14-2011, 12:54 PM
How does this look homemade?
seriously, its so complicated...

Because it's a blue wetsuit with red painted on it, look at the super hi res pic, the paint fades into blue down the middle, also it looks like the webbing was done by scraping the red paint away. I say wetsuit because I've seen that exact same "basketball" texture on certain types of suit before

TheSlag
01-14-2011, 12:56 PM
Example:

http://i51.tinypic.com/2ebzi1d.jpg

But that might of frightened the kiddies. :cwink:

So much potential to show some balls with the Goblin costume.. *WASTED*

Yeah.. Thanks Raimi! :whatever:

Man-E-Toys
01-14-2011, 12:58 PM
I don't know why alot of people assume Peter made his suit in SM1. I mean, they never showed or told us anything, but we have evidence from the novel that says someone from the wrestling arena who was beaten by Bonesaw had it made for him as an appreciative gift or something to that effect.

End of that discussion, guys. :o

This new suit does not look homemade either, but if it's sloppy like that, it's more believable. The webs don't look like webs, and the seams are just not as well hidden.

in spider-man 2, spider-man tells the guy in the elevator that he made the suit.

CrazyForSwayze
01-14-2011, 12:58 PM
I don't know why alot of people assume Peter made his suit in SM1. I mean, they never showed or told us anything, but we have evidence from the novel that says someone from the wrestling arena who was beaten by Bonesaw had it made for him as an appreciative gift or something to that effect.

End of that discussion, guys. :o

This new suit does not look homemade either, but if it's sloppy like that, it's more believable. The webs don't look like webs, and the seams are just not as well hidden.

that is a completely retarded explanation, some random dude made spiderman's costume? If I was a struggling pro wrestler I'd probably cash in on knowing the identity of spiderman

THE MR. TERRIFIC
01-14-2011, 01:00 PM
The design is fine I just am not to fond of the texture. I'm reserving judgement until I see it in action.

webhead731
01-14-2011, 01:02 PM
in spider-man 2, spider-man tells the guy in the elevator that he made the suit.

That's true, but Spidey can lie. I just go by what the novel says, as it seems most logical. I can't see Spidey in the elevator telling the guy the whole story, he didn't want to talk to him anyway.

that is a completely retarded explanation, some random dude made spiderman's costume? If I was a struggling pro wrestler I'd probably cash in on knowing the identity of spiderman

Sorry you'd be kind of a jerk? :whatever:

I could be wrong but I'd LIKE to think it was that Flying Dutchman guy. I don't feel like looking it up. He was thankful and appreciative of Spidey, and I guess as a token of gratitude he let him use his tailor to make a suit for him. I don't think he sat there at home and made it himself.

TheSlag
01-14-2011, 01:02 PM
Because this suit retains the spirit and basic design of the original. With the exception of the fact that it was green and had a goblin-like face, there was absolutely nothing about the Goblin costume in SM1 that was in any way relevant to the original. If not for the glider, it would have been damn near unrecognizable to a lot of fans.

And before I get some response saying "so you want a cloth halloween costume with a cheesy rubber mask instead," there are plenty of ways that the costume could have been updated/adapted for film/made more 'serious' or 'intimidating', whatever, without making it a monochromatic, shiny eyesore.


Ahhh.. the sweet smell of "logic" in the morning. This will NEVER fly with this group mind you. LOL.. Logic be damned is their Motto. :cwink:

Well said Pumpkin_Bomb! :up:

webhead731
01-14-2011, 01:04 PM
We need to change this thread title because every time I see it...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT_vf5ioXXk

RustyCage
01-14-2011, 01:10 PM
I keep thinking of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O-PY7ySEj8) one, myself:

5O-PY7ySEj8

Parker Wayne
01-14-2011, 01:12 PM
We need to change this thread title because every time I see it...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT_vf5ioXXk

I think that was the point. :hehe:

Pumpkin_Bomb
01-14-2011, 01:12 PM
Okay, when Spidey's sporting that kind of suit, then we can all complain. Deal? :p

CrazyForSwayze
01-14-2011, 01:13 PM
That's true, but Spidey can lie. I just go by what the novel says, as it seems most logical. I can't see Spidey in the elevator telling the guy the whole story, he didn't want to talk to him anyway.



Sorry you'd be kind of a jerk? :whatever:

I could be wrong but I'd LIKE to think it was that Flying Dutchman guy. I don't feel like looking it up. He was thankful and appreciative of Spidey, and I guess as a token of gratitude he let him use his tailor to make a suit for him. I don't think he sat there at home and made it himself.

It strikes me as a very odd explanation either way, I guess outing spidey would be a dick move though

RustyCage
01-14-2011, 01:14 PM
Okay, when Spidey's sporting that kind of suit, then we can all complain. Deal? :p

Spider on the tie?

CrazyForSwayze
01-14-2011, 01:24 PM
I could be mental but I like the idea of a loose fitting belt as part of the costume, since there isn't a red band on the suit, since they appear to be going with the mechanical web shooters he'd probably need somewhere for spares

Spider-Aziz
01-14-2011, 01:26 PM
YEAH RAIMI SUCKS. :cmad:

HE RUINED THIS FRANCHISE WITH HIS GOBLIN SUIT. IT COULD HAVE BEEN AMAZING, LIKE THIS ONE. :o :whatever: :pTriconded:woot:

Scarlettess
01-14-2011, 01:30 PM
Because it's a blue wetsuit with red painted on it, look at the super hi res pic, the paint fades into blue down the middle, also it looks like the webbing was done by scraping the red paint away. I say wetsuit because I've seen that exact same "basketball" texture on certain types of suit before

yeah wetsuits are 'tight and airy' :cwink: :woot: lol

SpideyVille
01-14-2011, 01:31 PM
We need to change this thread title because every time I see it...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT_vf5ioXXk

Haha, I thought I was the only one. :woot: :up:

rahan
01-14-2011, 01:34 PM
Disappointing!

The texture is great, the spider is great, the webbing is interesting but the totally unnessecary changes to the gloves and the mid-section completely ruin it for me. This is Superman Returns bad imho. Most classic costume elements are there but they eff it up the overall design.

It's simply disappointing, especially after the Raimi suit showed that you can stay true to the comic design and still do a great looking suit. If they just wouldn't have messed with the classic design and used those material and webs as well as the spider... it would have indeed been awesome, better than the Raimi suit, but with the design changes they made, sorry no, not that interested in this reboot anymore.

CrazyForSwayze
01-14-2011, 01:36 PM
yeah wetsuits are 'tight and airy' :cwink: :woot: lol

they're certainly tight, and something like a 5mm suit would be quite airy. In any case I'm saying it could be a wet suit in the context of the film, the fact that the one garfield is wearing is not isn't the point really, just trying to justify him being able to make the suit in the context of the story

Scarlettess
01-14-2011, 01:40 PM
Disappointing!

The texture is great, the spider is great, the webbing is interesting but the totally unnessecary changes to the gloves and the mid-section completely ruin it for me. This is Superman Returns bad imho. Most classic costume elements are there but they eff it up the overall design.

It's simply disappointing, especially after the Raimi suit showed that you can stay true to the comic design and still do a great looking suit. If they just wouldn't have messed with the classic design and used those material and webs as well as the spider... it would have indeed been awesome, better than the Raimi suit, but with the design changes they made, sorry no, not that interested in this reboot anymore.

Because of a costume? yeah because the story and plotline doesn't matter at all...:whatever: we've seen one picture. One picture and people now don't like the reboot all of a sudden?? :huh: c'mon people it's not like its the end of the world or anything.

Kurt Wagner
01-14-2011, 01:41 PM
Example:

http://i51.tinypic.com/2ebzi1d.jpg

Example of a rubber mask. AS cool as this looks, it would have had to be done with a rubber mask... or prosthetics, both which don't make sense for the movie or character.

Spider-Aziz
01-14-2011, 01:43 PM
Because of a costume? yeah because the story and plotline doesn't matter at all...:whatever: we've seen one picture. One picture and people now don't like the reboot all of a sudden?? :huh: c'mon people it's not like its the end of the world or anything.
Would you care to sit through 30+ minutes from a 2+ hours movie watching a suit looking ugly to you?

Ajendo
01-14-2011, 01:43 PM
Disappointing!

The texture is great, the spider is great, the webbing is interesting but the totally unnessecary changes to the gloves and the mid-section completely ruin it for me. This is Superman Returns bad imho. Most classic costume elements are there but they eff it up the overall design.

It's simply disappointing, especially after the Raimi suit showed that you can stay true to the comic design and still do a great looking suit. If they just wouldn't have messed with the classic design and used those material and webs as well as the spider... it would have indeed been awesome, better than the Raimi suit, but with the design changes they made, sorry no, not that interested in this reboot anymore.

I think you have misdirected your anger and disappointment. You should be angry at the souls that have huge clouds shadowing their intelligence in not being able to distinguish that these new movies are meant to be different from Raimi's movies. Had this not been the case, it is more than likely they wouldn't need to make such conspicuous changes to the costume just to make a statement of differentiation.

Wams
01-14-2011, 01:45 PM
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2011/01/685ead787a576ee02e01cf270703dda7/original.jpg

Only thing this dude is lacking is a basketball in his hand




LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:woot: