Spider-Man Reboot Costume

[ModestMr.Green]

We need to change this thread title because every time I see it...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT_vf5ioXXk

That's what I was thinking of when I made that title, actually.

[Whiskey Tango]

Example of a rubber mask. AS cool as this looks, it would have had to be done with a rubber mask... or prosthetics, both which don't make sense for the movie or character.

Green Goblin has worn a rubber mask in the comics since the 60's so I can't fathom how it wouldn't make sense for the character.

Prosthetics and explain it in-movie as a mask. Show him pulling it off. It looks awesome. You're done. And no goofy helmet!

[Scarlettess]

they're certainly tight, and something like a 5mm suit would be quite airy. In any case I'm saying it could be a wet suit in the context of the film, the fact that the one garfield is wearing is not isn't the point really, just trying to justify him being able to make the suit in the context of the story

I wasn't taking a stab at your theory, in fact I agree with your last post entirely, think its entirely justifiable that it could be a wetsuit, just cant see how a wetsuit can be airy...

[Scarlettess]

Would you care to sit through 30+ minutes from a 2+ hours movie watching a suit looking ugly to you?

Yes, because I'd be interested in the story, so I'd put the fact that its not visually apealling to me aside. I didn't like the Batman Begins suit but I dealt with it, and BB is a great film.

[CrazyForSwayze]

I suppose airy isn't the right word, but a thin one wouldn't be uncomfortable

[Dead Ken]

Definately a grower on me, when I saw this this morning my heart sank haha
But now I appreciate it a bit more. I wish they could have given us a clear, before-battle, masked spidey as a first picture like the new Captain America one though, but I'm not complaining.

[RustyCage]

Well, the extreme close-ups seem to suggest the blue parts are cloth with some kind of latex honeycomb mesh over it, so I imagine that would feel airy compared to certain other costume trends.

[rahan]

Because of a costume? yeah because the story and plotline doesn't matter at all...:whatever: we've seen one picture. One picture and people now don't like the reboot all of a sudden?? :huh: c'mon people it's not like its the end of the world or anything.

Oh no it's not the end of the world. I just lost interest in the movie, that is all. My interest went from "Must see" to " eh, perhaps I'll check out the DVD". It's a bit like cooking, one forgotten or badly handled ingredient can mess up the whole dish and a good costume to me is a MAJOR ingredient.

This costume could have been awesome, it's almost there but the silly and really unecessairy changes to the classic design break it. The movie might have a good story and all that but tell ya what, it's not a Spider-Man movie, at least not the kind I'm interested in. It might be a good Spidey derivative perhaps, but you know, I wanted to see "Spider-man", not "Almost or Very Close to Spider-Man".

And I'm spoiled, I admit it, Raimi completely spoiled me in terms of faithful suit designs and that's why I don't like the new suit. The changes to the basic design are simply not needed, not even to differentiate the reboot from the older movies because the new texture, web design and spider emblem are more than enough to achieve that.

[Alchemyst]

Oh no it's not the end of the world. I just lost interest in the movie, that is all. My interest went from "Must see" to " eh, perhaps I'll check out the DVD". It's a bit like cooking, one forgotten or badly handled ingredient can mess up the whole dish and a good costume to me is a MAJOR ingredient.

This costume could have been awesome, it's almost there but the silly and really unecessairy changes to the classic design break it. The movie might have a good story and all that but tell ya what, it's not a Spider-Man movie, at least not the kind I'm interested in. It might be a good Spidey derivative perhaps, but you know, I wanted to see "Spider-man", not "Almost or Very Close to Spider-Man".

And I'm spoiled, I admit it, Raimi completely spoiled me in terms of faithful suit designs and that's why I don't like the new suit. The changes to the basic design are simply not needed, not even to differentiate the reboot from the older movies because the new texture, web design and spider emblem are more than enough to achieve that.

So you would have been happy with them using the Raimi suit for an all new Spider-Man franchise?

[RustyCage]

Oh no it's not the end of the world. I just lost interest in the movie, that is all. My interest went from "Must see" to " eh, perhaps I'll check out the DVD". It's a bit like cooking, one forgotten or badly handled ingredient can mess up the whole dish and a good costume to me is a MAJOR ingredient.

This costume could have been awesome, it's almost there but the silly and really unecessairy changes to the classic design break it. The movie might have a good story and all that but tell ya what, it's not a Spider-Man movie, at least not the kind I'm interested in. It might be a good Spidey derivative perhaps, but you know, I wanted to see "Spider-man", not "Almost or Very Close to Spider-Man".

And I'm spoiled, I admit it, Raimi completely spoiled me in terms of faithful suit designs and that's why I don't like the new suit. The changes to the basic design are simply not needed, not even to differentiate the reboot from the older movies because the new texture, web design and spider emblem are more than enough to achieve that.

@ Bold: That's a huge stretch of an accusation to make about this film.

[Spider-Aziz]

So you would have been happy with them using the Raimi suit for an all new Spider-Man franchise?
That's your understanding? What he asked for is a costume that looks more like the comic version than this unneeded altering

[CrazyForSwayze]

It's utterly insane to lose interest in a film over the very first still released, wait for the first trailer maybe?

[rahan]

So you would have been happy with them using the Raimi suit for an all new Spider-Man franchise?

Sure why not, I liked the Raimi suit, It's still one of the most faithfull and well executed movie costumes to date and its basic design is what Spidey has been wearing in the comics for ages.

I don't mind tweaking elements though, as long as the overal design remains intact and that's what I'm complaining about. I'm not complaining about the fabric, the texture or the webs. I complan about unecessairy blue stripes on the gloves and the elemination of the red belt like one, ya know, basic design element to Spidey's suit. It's like taking away the \S/ on Supes cape and replacing it with one on his belt, unnecessairy and the missing red beltstripe throws off the whole design of the Spidey costume imho.

So in my book this costume is a step down from the previous franchise, not because it is badly executed in terms of fabric choices or craftmanship but because it simply fails to do, what the Raimi suit did, namely stay true to the basic comic design.

[LuisTX85]

So.....Even IF he were to have web shooters/character talked&acted like Spidey in the comics(including peter)/Spidey type of fights&action scenes and then plus other faithful characters.....

This would not be"Spider-Man"just cause of the suit(even though he has the same spidey blue&red and it still resembles the comic suit)!?!?!?!?

[Scarlettess]

Oh no it's not the end of the world. I just lost interest in the movie, that is all. My interest went from "Must see" to " eh, perhaps I'll check out the DVD". It's a bit like cooking, one forgotten or badly handled ingredient can mess up the whole dish and a good costume to me is a MAJOR ingredient.

This costume could have been awesome, it's almost there but the silly and really unecessairy changes to the classic design break it. The movie might have a good story and all that but tell ya what, it's not a Spider-Man movie, at least not the kind I'm interested in. It might be a good Spidey derivative perhaps, but you know, I wanted to see "Spider-man", not "Almost or Very Close to Spider-Man".

And I'm spoiled, I admit it, Raimi completely spoiled me in terms of faithful suit designs and that's why I don't like the new suit. The changes to the basic design are simply not needed, not even to differentiate the reboot from the older movies because the new texture, web design and spider emblem are more than enough to achieve that.

Okay...so what your saying is, as long as the movie has a fantastic costume in your eyes the story could be the biggest pile of rubbish and it would still be 'Spider-Man'? please correct me if i'm wrong but that what i got from your post. I understand and even agree with some of the comments about the suit but i don't see it a reason to cast the whole movie to 'i'll just watch it on DVD' from 'i'll go see it at cinema'.:dry:

[Alchemyst]

That's your understanding? What he asked for is a costume that looks more like the comic version than this unneeded altering

Well, to my understanding, Raimi's suit was possibly the closest that you can get to Spider-Man's comic book suit. The "uneeded" altering was in fact needed in order to set both incarnations apart from each other. They still retained the original concept of his suit, red, blue, and webs.

Sure why not, I liked the Raimi suit, It's still one of the most faithfull and well executed movie costumes to date and its basic design is what Spidey has been wearing in the comics for ages.

I don't mind tweaking elements though, as long as the overal design remains intact and that's what I'm complaining about. I'm not complaining about the fabric, the texture or the webs. I complan about unecessairy blue stripes on the gloves and the elemination of the red belt like one, ya know, basic design element to Spidey's suit. It's like taking away the \S/ on Supes cape and replacing it with one on his belt, unnecessairy and the missing red beltstripe throws off the whole design of the Spidey costume imho.

So in my book this costume is a step down from the previous franchise, not because it is badly executed in terms of fabric choices or craftmanship but because it simply fails to do, what the Raimi suit did, namely stay true to the basic comic design.

I guess I can deal with it, he is still recognizeable to me. The costume designers knew what they were up against, and they made decisions that they felt were necessary to update Spidey for this franchises universe. This is only one pic that we have of Spidey in costume, wait until a full body shot is revealed to see how the rest of the costume looks, and also wait for a trailer to see it in action and you might have a difference in opinion, but to each his own

[JerseyJoker]

I totally dig the idea of Spidey having a belt, maybe not Batman style, but something that is low-tech, but still can be used for extra cartridges of webbing or his Spider light.

[rahan]

So.....Even IF he were to have web shooters/character talked&acted like Spidey in the comics(including peter)/Spidey type of fights&action scenes and then plus other faithful characters.....

This would not be"Spider-Man"just cause of the suit(even though he has the same spidey blue&red and it still resembles the comic suit)!?!?!?!?
Jepp, to me yes. I might have been more forgiving if there hadn't been the Raimi movies but after them, no, there is no need to compromise in terms of the suit design.

The funny thing is, I could have lived for example with the Symbiote suit because it would have been true to the comic but this thing, it just ain't there, and like I said, there is no need to compromise on the design, It works perfectly fine on the big screen just as it is. Why should people settle for "comic book resemblance" when it has been proven that you don't have to? For Spidey, nah that ain't cutting it anymore.

[CrazyForSwayze]

I totally dig the idea of Spidey having a belt, maybe not Batman style, but something that is low-tech, but still can be used for extra cartridges of webbing or his Spider light.

100% agree, something loose fitting would really add to the look when he's webslinging around, also it'd make up for the fact that there isn't a red band on the suit, which bothers people for some reason

[Compi716]

The webbing looks so intricate as you get to the lower torso, it's almost McFarlane-esque!
The hell? It's not webbing down the torso...it's, like, random lines. It's looks nothing like the McFarlane webbing, which looked like, well, webbing.


When I compared the reboot pic to this: http://www.soundonsight.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/spiderman_2_movie_image_tobey_maguire__1_1.jpg
That's a good image you chose. I found another one that I think well-illustrates the full Raimi Spider-Man costume.
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1720/tobeymaguire1.jpg

If someone wants to cut out Tobey and put that Spidey image next to the Garfield suit, that would be cool.

[LuisTX85]

I just wish somebody working on the movie would do an interview and talk about the suit!,Confirming a belt or not,Perhaps it won't be a sown up belt like in most of the comics.....But there could still be a chance for an utility belt(would make sense IF there really is web shooters)that was just ripped off in a fight scene,IF so then I sure hope it's red/kinda small/and very tight!(maybe Spidey was trying to refill his shooters when he thought the fight was over But then the villian surprised him and yanked it off!?!?).

IF an interview like that will happen,Needs to be ASAP!

[RustyCage]

The hell? It's not webbing down the torso...it's, like, random lines. It's looks nothing like the McFarlane webbing, which looked like, well, webbing.


That's a good image you chose. I found another one that I think well-illustrates the full Raimi Spider-Man costume.
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1720/tobeymaguire1.jpg

If someone wants to cut out Tobey and put that Spidey image next to the Garfield suit, that would be cool.

Another great example. :up:

But we have to look at the suit at it's best and worst to be totally fair.

We'll need more shots of the Garfield suit as well, of course.

[Steyin]

Just noticed that he's holding the mask in his right hand.

[BH/HHH]

I love it its cool but still classic and its different enough that its not just a retread of the Maguire suit. A+

[rahan]

Well, to my understanding, Raimi's suit was possibly the closest that you can get to Spider-Man's comic book suit. The "uneeded" altering was in fact needed in order to set both incarnations apart from each other. They still retained the original concept of his suit, red, blue, and webs.



I guess I can deal with it, he is still recognizeable to me. The costume designers knew what they were up against, and they made decisions that they felt were necessary to update Spidey for this franchises universe. This is only one pic that we have of Spidey in costume, wait until a full body shot is revealed to see how the rest of the costume looks, and also wait for a trailer to see it in action and you might have a difference in opinion, but to each his own
No, no it was not needed, absolutely not. The suit would have looked different enough with the new texture, indented webs and new Spider. Every other choice is nothing more than mastrubation by the costume designer. Original concept of Spidey's suit? Where, the color and the fact that he has webs? That's like saying that the Superman Returns suit was close enought and yet most fans would say that the Superman Returns suit is badly designed. It's the same with this suit. It has pretty much the same flaws as the SR suit.

[RustyCage]

Just noticed that he's holding the mask in his right hand.

How is everyone so convinced that's a mask?

[SatEL]

The blue is to dark mehhhhhhh not interested in this reboot anymore that's it I am done.

[RustyCage]

The blue is to dark mehhhhhhh not interested in this reboot anymore that's it I am done.

:hehe:

[Majik1387]

Just noticed that he's holding the mask in his right hand.
Nice eye
How is everyone so convinced that's a mask?
Probably because it looks to match the red of his costume more than his gloves and that it looks like a different fabric than the gloves.

[LuisTX85]

The blue is to dark mehhhhhhh not interested in this reboot anymore that's it I am done.

I sure hope your being sarcastic!,IF not.....:doh:(he has had black&red,among other crazy colors&looks in different stories)

IF you are,Why so.....dramatic/over exaggerating?????

[Steyin]

How is everyone so convinced that's a mask?

I can't imagine anything else it might be:

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Steyin/Misc/hand.jpg

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

This costume could have been awesome, it's almost there but the silly and really unecessairy changes to the classic design break it. The movie might have a good story and all that but tell ya what, it's not a Spider-Man movie, at least not the kind I'm interested in. It might be a good Spidey derivative perhaps, but you know, I wanted to see "Spider-man", not "Almost or Very Close to Spider-Man".


I could write up something about how the Raimi suit had raised, silver webs and shiny eyes, both unnecessary changes to the classic design, but not the least bit damaging to the movie (just like the slight changes made to this version) but instead I'll just say "LOL" and "okay, see ya."

[rahan]

The blue is to dark mehhhhhhh not interested in this reboot anymore that's it I am done.
Bad Parody, ya could have actually parodied my real complains and not something I have no qualms with. bah, kids just ain't trying anymore these days *waves with his walking stick*

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

So a better parallel would have been "There's a bit of blue on the gloves, mehhhh, I'm not interested in this reboot anymore" then?

[LuisTX85]

the Raimi suit had raised, silver webs and shiny eyes, both unnecessary changes to the classic design, but not the least bit damaging to the movie (just like the slight changes made to this version

Indeed!

[craigdbfan]

Sure why not, I liked the Raimi suit, It's still one of the most faithfull and well executed movie costumes to date and its basic design is what Spidey has been wearing in the comics for ages.

I don't mind tweaking elements though, as long as the overal design remains intact and that's what I'm complaining about. I'm not complaining about the fabric, the texture or the webs. I complain about unecessairy blue stripes on the gloves and the elemination of the red belt like one, ya know, basic design element to Spidey's suit. It's like taking away the \S/ on Supes cape and replacing it with one on his belt, unnecessairy and the missing red beltstripe throws off the whole design of the Spidey costume imho.

So in my book this costume is a step down from the previous franchise, not because it is badly executed in terms of fabric choices or craftmanship but because it simply fails to do, what the Raimi suit did, namely stay true to the basic comic design.

Exactly.

[CrazyForSwayze]

Bad Parody, ya could have actually parodied my real complains and not something I have no qualms with. bah, kids just ain't trying anymore these days *waves with his walking stick*

the sentiment is almost identical, and equally nonsensical

[TheSlag]

So.....Even IF he were to have web shooters/character talked&acted like Spidey in the comics(including peter)/Spidey type of fights&action scenes and then plus other faithful characters.....

This would not be"Spider-Man"just cause of the suit(even though he has the same spidey blue&red and it still resembles the comic suit)!?!?!?!?

HEY NOW!!!!.. No fair applying "logic". :cwink: :woot:

[Alex The Great]

I can't help but hate the blue part on the hands. It just shouldn't be there. Oh well. I'm sure i'll get used to it

[RustyCage]

I can't imagine anything else it might be:

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Steyin/Misc/hand.jpg

I agree it could be a mask, but I don't see why it couldn't also just be that his right hand is fully closed.

[socool]

OK, I'm trying to be as far as possible here.

RAIMI SPIDER-MAN SUIT:
http://mesh.chattablogs.com/spider-man-2.jpg

Pros: comic accurate
Cons: too "built", raised webbing too fat

WEBB SPIDER-MAN SUIT:
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/237230/SPIDEY-GARFIELD.jpg

Pros:sleeker, slim, personality
Cons:web pattern on abs, long spider legs

The only reason I'm doing this is to show people what my line of thinking is. Some of you are completely dumbstruck by how much you dont like this costume, I wanted to show you how I do like it.

Did they have to change the costume so much? No. Is it justified? Absolutely. There are still people out there who don't know this is a reboot. Changing the color of the webs, the spider and eyes would most likely still confuse people. Something out of left-field (but not too far out there) was the right way to go. It's slightly annoying that it's so different compared to the comic suit but I think Raimi's suit and Reeves Superman suit are the only comic accurate suits.

Batman (Burton)-Pure black
X-Men-Leather
Superman Returns-Loose
Iron Man-One solid shape
Captain America-Everything
Batman (Nolan)-Armor

Suits will always be changed...ALWAYS! I think a lot of us were expecting another comic adaptation suit.

Sorry, just had to explain myself. I feel like I'm in the minority here, liking the suit. (even though I'm not!)

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Regarding the belt: there's evidence in that pic, as many have pointed out, to suggest that there normally is a belt/waistband on the costume (seams/leading lines tracing the outline of where it would normally be, patch of red on his left hip that falls between those lines)

[RustyCage]

I don't understand why this film needs to stay true to the classic comic design. It's still really close either way. But are all the other Spider-man suit designs that have been in the comics now considered bad for some reason? Why are they not allowed to update the look?

And what about all the other superhero suit adaptations, like virtually all of the Batman film suits?

[Parker Wayne]

OK, I'm trying to be as far as possible here.

RAIMI SPIDER-MAN SUIT:
http://mesh.chattablogs.com/spider-man-2.jpg

Pros: comic accurate
Cons: too "built", raised webbing too fat

WEBB SPIDER-MAN SUIT:
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/237230/SPIDEY-GARFIELD.jpg

Pros:sleeker, slim, personality
Cons:web pattern on abs, long spider legs

The only reason I'm doing this is to show people what my line of thinking is. Some of you are completely dumbstruck by how much you dont like this costume, I wanted to show you how I do like it.

Did they have to change the costume so much? No. Is it justified? Absolutely. There are still people out there who don't know this is a reboot. Changing the color of the webs, the spider and eyes would most likely still confuse people. Something out of left-field (but not too far out there) was the right way to go. It's slightly annoying that it's so different compared to the comic suit but I think Raimi's suit and Reeves Superman suit are the only comic accurate suits.

Batman (Burton)-Pure black
X-Men-Leather
Superman Returns-Loose
Iron Man-One solid shape
Captain America-Everything
Batman (Nolan)-Armor

Suits will always be changed...ALWAYS! I think a lot of us were expecting another comic adaptation suit.

Sorry, just had to explain myself. I feel like I'm in the minority here, liking the suit. (even though I'm not!)


I agree with everything. I like the suit. I think comparing it to Raimi's suit is a mistake. I think it should be judged on its on merits, and on its own its own merits it's pretty good. They're actually going for that homemade feel that we didn't think they'd go for, but it actually looks good while being cinematic (It's guaranteed to looked good in motion imo).

[Immortalfire]

First it was "What's that in his eye????!!!"

Now its "What's that in his hand?????!!!!"

:hyper:

[socool]

And what about all the other superhero suit adaptations, like virtually all of the Batman film suits?

(see my above post) :p

[rahan]

I could write up something about how the Raimi suit had raised, silver webs and shiny eyes, both unnecessary changes to the classic design, but not the least bit damaging to the movie (just like the slight changes made to this version) but instead I'll just say "LOL" and "okay, see ya."
Wrong, raised webbing and shiny eyes are not designs, Design is the basic shape of the thing. The web's 3-Dimensionality and color variations are costume elements, not the design. Now lets see.

changed elements in the new suit:

idented webs - fine change, nice alteration
different texture - fine change
altered spider symbol - fine change
different shades of red/ blue - fine change

change in design:
leaving out the red stripe - bad, changes whole design composition, throws it off.

adding blue stripes to the gloves - bad change, is not part of the basic comic design and once again throws off the balance.

So in essence, the Raimi suit leaves the basic design intact, changing costume elements like texture, raised, silver colored webs and eyes while the new suit changes the basic design additionaly to some costume elements.

[Spider-ManHero12]

First it was "What's that in his eye????!!!"

Now its "What's that in his hand?????!!!!"

:hyper: Yup, lol. The sequel!

[Ponco_87]

No, no it was not needed, absolutely not. The suit would have looked different enough with the new texture, indented webs and new Spider. Every other choice is nothing more than mastrubation by the costume designer. Original concept of Spidey's suit? Where, the color and the fact that he has webs? That's like saying that the Superman Returns suit was close enought and yet most fans would say that the Superman Returns suit is badly designed. It's the same with this suit. It has pretty much the same flaws as the SR suit.
Perhaps you can design you're own spidey suit? Come on, have a little respect for the group people who are actually trying to bring this character to life. Instead of whining, why not try to make you're own manip or drawing concept or whatever. 'Nothing more than mastrubation by the costume designer'? If you want to insult the people who are actually working hard, at least have the dignity to spell you're insults correctly.

[craigdbfan]

Wrong, raised webbing and shiny eyes are not designs, Design is the basic shape of the thing. The web's 3-Dimensionality and color variations are costume elements, not the design. Now lets see.

changed elements in the new suit:

idented webs - fine change, nice alteration
different texture - fine change
altered spider symbol - fine change
different shades of red/ blue - fine change

change in design:
leaving out the red stripe - bad, changes whole design composition, throws it off.

adding blue stripes to the gloves - bad change, is not part of the basic comic design and once again throws off the balance.

So in essence, the Raimi suit leaves the basic design intact, changing costume elements like texture, raised, silver colored webs and eyes while the new suit changes the basic design additionaly to some costume elements.

Whoa. Nicely put.

That basically sums up all my issues with the new costume. You worded that nicely man. :up:


Perhaps you can design you're own spidey suit? Come on, have a little respect for the group people who are actually trying to bring this character to life. Instead of whining, why not try to make you're own manip or drawing concept or whatever. 'Nothing more than mastrubation by the costume designer'? If you want to insult the people who are actually working hard, at least have the dignity to spell you're insults correctly.

He isn't whining. Getting sick of post like these telling us that people who don't like the design of the costume are essentially trolls.

I'm still excited as hell to see this movie. Do I wish they would have taken another route, absolutely.

Anyway Rahan seems like a reasonable person I'm sure he's also going to see the movie but he's just letting us know his gripes with the costume, we aren't condemning the entire film blindly without seeing the film yet.

[Majik1387]

Oy, I just saw the picture of Green Goblin costume on Broadway. :dry:

Makes me appreciate this movie suit more and more.

[Doc Samson]

After a day, I can't help but surmise that a good majority of people criticizing Raimi's costume are doing this solely based on their hatred of SM3.

This is the only explanation that's viable, because I just can't shake the memory of the overwhelming response to that costume. It was near perfection, a modern day miracle among comic movie enthusiasts that for once, somebody didn't muck up the costume, they actually got it right. Along with Superman, this is quite possibly the most iconic suit of all. So, I find it odd that people seem to be so open to these changes. People were crying about the absence of web-shooters of all things, but a wholesale deviation from the classic costume is acceptable?

Perhaps it's because they got it so right the first time, that a radical change isn't perceived the same way it would have been if this were the first movie. Whatever the case, between the Hulk changing size, all the X-men wearing the same black leather, Daredevil wearing....whatever the hell he was wearing, the gripes about Superman's cape color, and insignia size, and belt, and boots and everything in between, Green Lantern and his missing white gloves, the Joker not being permawhite etc., the one character in a million years I wouldn't have guessed would be criticized for his costume was Raimi's Spider-man. On top of that, the criticism most egregious is that it was too perfect for a kid to have made, like it isn't that way in the comic? Like this new suit isn't completely out of that realm either? I wish you guys were this open all the time, that's for sure...

[socool]

Wrong, raised webbing and shiny eyes are not designs, Design is the basic shape of the thing. The web's 3-Dimensionality and color variations are costume elements, not the design. Now lets see.

changed elements in the new suit:

idented webs - fine change, nice alteration
different texture - fine change
altered spider symbol - fine change
different shades of red/ blue - fine change

change in design:
leaving out the red stripe - bad, changes whole design composition, throws it off.

adding blue stripes to the gloves - bad change, is not part of the basic comic design and once again throws off the balance.


:dry: Costume element...I'm thinking you made that up.

As for your two design changes, its barely against the comic. The silver webs were against the comic too might I remind you.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Again, there's evidence to suggest that there is a belt on the suit, and it's only missing due to damage from the fight. So, bearing that in mind, and how it was your main point about the new suit being "ruined" from a design standpoint, what would be your opinion on the suit if that ends up being true? Is a little blue on the gloves still a complete dealbreaker for the entire movie?

[Hurm...]

First it was "What's that in his eye????!!!"

Now its "What's that in his hand?????!!!!"

:hyper:Both sound equally as awful lol.

[Majik1387]

I wasn't a big fan of the past Spidey-movies, and while he did get the costume right in the design aspect, I really hated how the tones looked onscreen; It looked very subdued in color for my liking.

I'm fine with changes, especially if the character has had numerous changes in their costumes over the years. As long as the costume makes me think of the hero the character is supposed to be, I'm fine with alterations.

And that's why I'm okay with this one, and Raimi's, but Raimi's could have been improved as well.

[Whiskey Tango]

I could write up something about how the Raimi suit had raised, silver webs and shiny eyes, both unnecessary changes to the classic design, but not the least bit damaging to the movie (just like the slight changes made to this version) but instead I'll just say "LOL" and "okay, see ya."

I've mentioned this I don't know how many times but they always conveniently ignore it.

[craigdbfan]

First it was "What's that in his eye????!!!"

Now its "What's that in his hand?????!!!!"

:hyper:

Haha.

I feel many good days are to come as promotional/set pictures and whatnot are released.

The theories/opinions all over the internet will be some so funny to read.

I wasn't a big fan of the past Spidey-movies, and while he did get the costume right in the design aspect, I really hated how the tones looked onscreen; It looked very subdued in color for my liking.

I'm fine with changes, especially if the character has had numerous changes in their costumes over the years. As long as the costume makes me think of the hero the character is supposed to be, I'm fine with alterations.

And that's why I'm okay with this one, and Raimi's, but Raimi's could have been improved as well.

Its strange even though I don't like the costume, I've never been excited about a SH movie since well the first Spider-Man.

Can't wait until we see the mask. :O

[NinjaTurtleFan]

So you would have been happy with them using the Raimi suit for an all new Spider-Man franchise?

Raimi's suit was bulkier and had silver lining but it was faithful. This is semi-faithful but takes the costume into darker territories which the character shouldn't be.

This isn't Nolan's Batman or Millar's "Kick-Ass." This is Spider-Man. How can they screw up something that doesn't need any updating or tinkering with. The original suit is fine; it needs no new translation. Batman I could give a **** less if he's wearing a latex suit, armored suit, cloth suit, but Spider-Man it's so simple (red and blue color scheme, red gloves, red belt, and no spider legs dripping down the front.)

[Immortalfire]

Yup, lol. The sequel!

Thing is, I'm not really surprised. lol

[Spider-Who?]

Wrong, raised webbing and shiny eyes are not designs, Design is the basic shape of the thing. The web's 3-Dimensionality and color variations are costume elements, not the design. Now lets see.

changed elements in the new suit:

idented webs - fine change, nice alteration
different texture - fine change
altered spider symbol - fine change
different shades of red/ blue - fine change

change in design:
leaving out the red stripe - bad, changes whole design composition, throws it off.

adding blue stripes to the gloves - bad change, is not part of the basic comic design and once again throws off the balance.

So in essence, the Raimi suit leaves the basic design intact, changing costume elements like texture, raised, silver colored webs and eyes while the new suit changes the basic design additionaly to some costume elements.

ummmm.....no. "Design" refers to all the elements that are in play. You can call each individual aspect a "costume element" if you want, but they all fall under the umbrella of "design". Because, you know, each aspect of the costume was conceived and built by a designer.

pretty much agree with everything else, though :)

[NinjaCarm]

You could care less? The fact that it's more faithufl pretty much makes Raim's Spidey suit THE Spider-Man film suit. As for this new suit? It defentiely fits the tone of the new film. I really like it so far. I just hope the mask looks good.

That was then, this is now. This is a different take. I would never use the Raimi suit in this reboot, even if it ever was the definitive suit. That's where I could care less if it was "the" suit. This is different.

I like the new suit very much.

[Saint]

Wrong, raised webbing and shiny eyes are not designs, Design is the basic shape of the thing. The web's 3-Dimensionality and color variations are costume elements, not the design. Now lets see.

Sorry, I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but this statement is completely false. As a designer, I can tell you that design is not "the basic shape of the thing." Shape is an element of design. Three dimensionality (form) and colour are also elements of design. Design is the application (and result) of these elements (among others).

[craigdbfan]

Raimi's suit was bulkier and had silver lining but it was faithful. This is semi-faithful but takes the costume into darker territories which the character shouldn't be.

This isn't Nolan's Batman or Millar's "Kick-Ass." This is Spider-Man. How can they screw up something that doesn't need any updating or tinkering with. The original suit is fine; it needs no new translation. Batman I could give a **** less if he's wearing a latex suit, armored suit, cloth suit, but Spider-Man it's so simple (red and blue color scheme, red gloves, red belt, and no spider legs dripping down the front.)

Yup.

The costume proved that the design works on screen with the proper modifications here and there. Thats why its even harder to swallow the new design.

There is no reason we couldn't have gotten a total re haul on the directors take of the skeletion of the basic blue and red design. Just like many artist in the comics have drawn Spidey the same way but yet so differently due to minor changes on the eye lens, color hue/saturation, color of webbing, shading, thickness of the webbing pattern , body types, web under armpit vs none , different forms of material that the costume itself was made of, etc.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Alright, so I've had the night to get used to it, and I'm thinking I like the suit. Not exactly what I wanted, but cool nevertheless.

Does anyone else get the feeling this might be a prototype suit or something? If you look close, where the red belt is supposed to be, there's a darker band of blue, like something was taken away... or something will be put there. You can even see red coming around from the back of his waist.

[rahan]

I don't understand why this film needs to stay true to the classic comic design. It's still really close either way. But are all the other Spider-man suit designs that have been in the comics now considered bad for some reason? Why are they not allowed to update the look?

And what about all the other superhero suit adaptations, like virtually all of the Batman film suits?
No I would have no qualms with a symbiote Spidey suit... I wouldn't have liked the Reilly suit though. But the point is, there is no need to change it, it's unecessairy, the comic costume works, there is no need for a basic design change.

The Batman suits, at least Keatons, keep the basic Batman design intact, the most glaring changes are in color. They removed one design element and that was the trunks, everything else was pretty much comic accurate (well except maybe the belt buckle.) However Batman is a very bad example since Batman's iconic look is the costumes shape not so much the color. A much better example would be Superman's costume because Spidey's suit is just as iconic as supes. You can't do away with any element of Superman's costume, even the trunks because the design itself is just too iconic. Same with the cape or his boots. The SR suit is the best example of what happens when you mess up the design. All the classic suit elements are there, yet arranged in a way that throws off the basic composition. The result is a, well... less than stelar costume.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Thing is, I'm not really surprised. lol Same here, lol. It was bound to happen.

[Alex The Great]

First it was "What's that in his eye????!!!"

Now its "What's that in his hand?????!!!!"

:hyper:
So true :lmao:

[newwaveboy87]

I'm unsure how I feel about this suit. I like parts of it, don't like others. I'm glad to see that I'm not in some contrarian minority or anything. I think seeing it in action will help. And maybe this is just like an early stage of the suit in the film.

Maybe he'll adapt and change it as the film progresses...?

[NinjaCarm]

I can't believe all the backlash on this suit. I would have thought more people would have been mighty pleased by it.

[rahan]

Sorry, I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but this statement is completely false. As a designer, I can tell you that design is not "the basic shape of the thing." Shape is an element of design. Three dimensionality (form) and colour are also elements of design. Design is the application (and result) of these elements (among others).

Fine, then I stand corrected. So as a designer, what is it then that differentiates the shape of the new costume compared to Raimi's? The look is changed far more than the suit of the old movies. I'm sure there is a term for the way they changed the shape of the red and blue parts (since english ain't my mothertongue I might not be familiar with the word)

[craigdbfan]

I can't believe all the backlash on this suit. I would have thought more people would have been mighty pleased by it.

The majority of the people on the internet have liked it in good numbers. Thats saying a lot too seeing as being cynical is far more popular nowadays.

Those who dislike it seem to be a minority if anything this is good news for Sony and Webb.

[SatEL]

People should at least wait and see the suit in full before hating on it, it most likely will look better in motion and when its not beat up.

[rahan]

I can't believe all the backlash on this suit. I would have thought more people would have been mighty pleased by it.
Why should people be pleased? we had something much better and truer to the comic, It's a stepdown. Like I said, perhaps if there weren't the Raimi films I migth be more forgiving but not after having seen a 95% accurate movie costume. Why settle for something lesser?

[Spider-Who?]

I don't see why it couldn't also just be that his right hand is fully closed.

siggghhh i feel bad for jumping into this argument, but.....here's two reasons:

look at the thumb. if his hand is clenched in a fist, his thumb would bent further in. Loosely hold an article of clothing in your hand. I bet you 100 bucks your thumb is in a damn near exact angle.

look at the cloth in question. see how twe can tell the contour of the "object" based on how the texture curves? That does not match with how you'd expect the finger to look if it were in a fist. You can also tell (by looking at the texture) that the angle of the object is coming from the inside palm of his hand outward. Make a fist. No way your finger could do that.

[Saint]

The costume proved that the design works on screen with the proper modifications here and there. Thats why its even harder to swallow the new design.
Personally, I find that's actually why it's much easier. After nearly ten years of seeing the classic costume represented so well on screen, it doesn't really sting at all to see a drastically different design (especially since I think the design is neat).

Think of it this way: if this was the first Spider-Man costume to ever come to screen--if the Raimi-era costume had never existed--there would be people in this thread telling you that a Raimi suit would never work on screen. I absolutely guarantee that they'd be saying "Oh, it's too silly," and a whole bunch of other nonsense--and I know that because that happens every single day on the Batman forums.

So while this costume may not be to your liking, you can take comfort in the fact that the viability of an entirely classic costume has been proven, and that you'll probably see it again, somewhere down the line.

On the bat-boards, our future is basically a vision of black rubber, forever and ever, because nobody ever bothered to try something different.

[Alex The Great]

One thing I love about the new suit is the slightly raised, thin, black webbing. That's pretty much what we wanted. Granted it appears parts of the suit don't have webbing, but we kind of got what we wanted. I wish there'd be webbing on the abs area though

[Immortalfire]

Here's the mask!

http://i53.tinypic.com/f1w301.jpg

:oldrazz:

[socool]

Here's the mask!

http://i53.tinypic.com/f1w301.jpg

:oldrazz:

:wow:

awe-some

[Spectacular23]

I'd like to think this warrants a new thread. Presenting, the Spider suit...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/wallyflash/garfieldspiderman1.jpg

The tasteful subtlety of the webbing. The extended spider legs. I really like this. A great update on the classic Spider suit. Plus, we seem to be getting mechanical webshooters this time. (Note the little round things on his wrists, right next to the webbing bands.) Now if we can just get our eyes on that mask.

Major league buttkicking is back in town.
:wow::wow::wow: I- i don't know what to say!! Idk about you guys but this is truly a very AMazing suit. I LOVE IT!!! AND YES!!!! WEB SHOOTERS!!!!!!!!!! I wonder what they look like? Hope they realistic and not small and unrealistic that shoots out tons of webbing like in the comics lol. But yeah expect to see me back around here alot. THIS is AMAZING!!!!!!!!!! :woot::woot::woot::woot:

[Immortalfire]

I think I see something in that eyepiece as well...

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Why the hell are people arguing that it might be his mask? Is it so hard to believe that he COULD be holding his mask which he is not wearing?

[Whiskey Tango]

Here's the mask!

http://i53.tinypic.com/f1w301.jpg

:oldrazz:

This movie is dooooooooooooooomed!!1!1!

[socool]

I think I see something in that eyepiece as well...

All I see is a piece of cake behind him :oldrazz:

(I hope someone gets this joke...)

[Immortalfire]

Mm...cake

[craigdbfan]

Personally, I find that's actually why it's much easier. After nearly ten years of seeing the classic costume represented so well on screen, it doesn't really sting at all to see a drastically different design (especially since I think the design is neat).

Think of it this way: if this was the first Spider-Man costume to ever come to screen--if the Raimi-era costume had never existed--there would be people in this thread telling you that a Raimi suit would never work on screen. I absolutely guarantee that they'd be saying "Oh, it's too silly," and a whole bunch of other nonsense--and I know that because that happens ever single day on the Batman forums.

So while this costume may not be to your liking, you can take comfort in the fact that the viability of an entirely classic costume has been proven, and that you'll probably see it again, somewhere down the line.

On the bat-boards, our future is basically a vision of black rubber, forever and ever, because nobody ever bothered to try something different.

Nicely said. I wish certain posts could be framed on a big cyberwall.

You're are so right. I should take solace in knowing that at least it can't really be said that it can't work for "such and such" reason.

Its hard to see the classic design go away but you're are right in that we got a good 10 years of a faithful design that resonated on all levels. Even so thats what makes it harder to accept the new design yah know?

Even then your reasoning is exactly why I'm still incredibly excited for the film. Thats what I really want to see succeed, the movie itself. The costume can be looked aside as I did in TDK. I really liked Begins costume and wasn't a big fan of TDK's second Bat design but it worked it got the job done and we got one incredible movie.

The quality of the film will trump the design of the costume for the Spidey reboot. Thats how I'm seeing things.

[rahan]

Again, there's evidence to suggest that there is a belt on the suit, and it's only missing due to damage from the fight. So, bearing that in mind, and how it was your main point about the new suit being "ruined" from a design standpoint, what would be your opinion on the suit if that ends up being true? Is a little blue on the gloves still a complete dealbreaker for the entire movie?
Well, perhaps I can get used to the blue, though I still don't see how it adds anything or makes the costume design better but as far as it looks to me the stripes on the arms seem to be removed too. As for the belt, if it ends up there it would depend on how it looks, if it looks like thin fabric, then I would have no qualms, however if it looks like Batman's utility belt then I wouldn't like it.

[Whiskey Tango]

Well, perhaps I can get used to the blue, though I still don't see how it adds anything or makes the costume design better but as far as it looks to me the stripes on the arms seem to be removed too. As for the belt, if it ends up there it would depend on how it looks, if it looks like thin fabric, then I would have no qualms, however if it looks like Batman's utility belt then I wouldn't like it.

If you look closely at the edge of his right arm it looks like the strip of red is still there.

[craigdbfan]

I think there is defintely a belt.

There is a clear circular difference in texture in the middle area which continues along his waist in the form of a belt line.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I think there is defintely a belt.

There is a clear circular difference in texture in the middle area which continues along his waist in the form of a belt line. Agreed. If there is a belt, as i said, I just hope it blends in well and doesn't stand out in a Batman type of way. It's the only way the belt would actually look decent.

[Whiskey Tango]

I think there is defintely a belt.

There is a clear circular difference in texture in the middle area which continues along his waist in the form of a belt line.

I'm 99% sure you're correct. In the pic someone brightened up you can see the stitching pretty well.

[Kent]

Assuming the belt bit is just somehow missing in this shot but will be in there in the movie (which I don't think is super-obvious is the case), I find the gloves annoying. Why the change? I can't see a single reason to switch that up except for the sake of being different... which is BS.

I think the suit works... but still. I don't understand why the gloves needed to be changed.

Other than that they seem to have removed the one thing about the Raimi-movie costume I didn't like... namely the silvery raised webbing.

[NinjaCarm]

Why should people be pleased? we had something much better and truer to the comic, It's a stepdown. Like I said, perhaps if there weren't the Raimi films I migth be more forgiving but not after having seen a 95% accurate movie costume. Why settle for something lesser?

The very fact that this is an entirely different take on Spider-Man should have at least, at least braised most people to the fact that this was not going to be the Raimi suit. Acknowledging and debating that it is not the Raimi suit is a moot point. It really is, once you knew this was not the Raimi trilogy and mythology. Now gripes with textures or gloves or this or that sounds more like a valid argument.

Given that, I am in the opinion, being different, they used foresight and acknowledged they needed to be different. The black webbing, the slightly raised / etched webbing, more vibrant colors, it all screams different while maintaining a classic homage to the Spider-Man suit. And I for one, do not believe it to be "lesser." I see them both as suits designed with acknowledgment and time and effort to maintain the classic Spider-Man look, tailoring to their own visions.

I believe some people are just in shock, simply put. Give it time.

Reasonable?

[SPider-T0rch]

I don't think this is the best first shot of a costume. Hopefully, the next picture is of the full costume without any rips and oddly shadowed areas. I want to love the costume but I'm not 100% sold on it yet.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

I'm sure that was intentional: they released this picture to get people talking and give us a good idea of what we'll see without giving away the full thing.

[InKaH]

I've tried to but I just don't like it. I'm not saying that I didn't want to see a change from the Raimi costume either because I did. I suppose i'm just a bit disappointed that this is what we've ended up with. The material looks rubbery and too glossy, like reptile skin. They kept the symbol from the Raimi movies it looks like but just blended it into the webbing (which doesn't cover the whole suit which I think is stupid). I've heard on the threads that it looks like a battle damaged costume. Well I hope that is the case because I always though spidey's suit should look a little crisper with more defined lines and texture. The pattern on the blue parts of the suit look very similar to raimi's brick type design. I guess I was expecting to be blown away. Perhaps I should have lowered my expectations... :huh:

I think Garfield is still an inspired piece of casting and his performance should be the thing that stands out in any event.

[webhead731]

To me, this is perfection of a Spider-Man live action suit.

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/457/spiderman3ravana6bk1.jpg

What we have for the reboot is a step down, which is too bad. Yeah, it's not HORRIBLE but it's just nothing special.

I'd like to see it NOT beaten up, and with a mask though.

[rahan]

I think there is defintely a belt.

There is a clear circular difference in texture in the middle area which continues along his waist in the form of a belt line.

I hope so, though I'm not sure if it isn't just wishfull thinking, like back on the Superman boards when people hoped they'll add the yellow S with CGI onto the cape.

It's really sad cause I like so many thing about the new costume, like the colors and texture, the spider and the webs. It's just, why couldn't they add these things to the basic comic look and not change that. This suit would have trumped Raimis if they would have done that but with the changes they made it less a Spider-Man suit than Raimis.

As for Saint's point. To me the new costume stings even more BECAUSE we had the Raimi films. That's why I can't stomach the new suit. Without them I think I might have liked it better.

[Alchemyst]

Personally, I find that's actually why it's much easier. After nearly ten years of seeing the classic costume represented so well on screen, it doesn't really sting at all to see a drastically different design (especially since I think the design is neat).

Think of it this way: if this was the first Spider-Man costume to ever come to screen--if the Raimi-era costume had never existed--there would be people in this thread telling you that a Raimi suit would never work on screen. I absolutely guarantee that they'd be saying "Oh, it's too silly," and a whole bunch of other nonsense--and I know that because that happens every single day on the Batman forums.

So while this costume may not be to your liking, you can take comfort in the fact that the viability of an entirely classic costume has been proven, and that you'll probably see it again, somewhere down the line.

On the bat-boards, our future is basically a vision of black rubber, forever and ever, because nobody ever bothered to try something different.

Very well said, best post I've seen :cwink:

[Gold Samurai]

I can't believe all the backlash on this suit. I would have thought more people would have been mighty pleased by it.


This is a universal statement. It can apply to Batman,Iron Man,Captain America etc etc.

Jeez you'd think Sony and Webb came up with something like this


http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9682/ironspidey.jpg
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/7792/spiderman650674x1024.jpg


Instead of the same overall look but slightly altered suit we saw yesterday.

[craigdbfan]

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/7792/spiderman650674x1024.jpg

Spidey is stuck in the Grid. :(

[Dugath]

I really do not understand why some people are crying like overgrown babies over the suit when they do not even know anything about it.

Perhaps this is the first outfit he made and later in the film you get a new outfit.

It is just silly to complain about something when you do not have all the facts.

In my opinion it looks good.
Though I also believe it is the "first" costume and by the end of the movie he will be in a new one.

[rahan]

The very fact that this is an entirely different take on Spider-Man should have at least, at least braised most people to the fact that this was not going to be the Raimi suit. Acknowledging and debating that it is not the Raimi suit is a moot point. It really is, once you knew this was not the Raimi trilogy and mythology. Now gripes with textures or gloves or this or that sounds more like a valid argument.

Given that, I am in the opinion, being different, they used foresight and acknowledged they needed to be different. The black webbing, the slightly raised / etched webbing, more vibrant colors, it all screams different while maintaining a classic homage to the Spider-Man suit. And I for one, do not believe it to be "lesser." I see them both as suits designed with acknowledgment and time and effort to maintain the classic Spider-Man look, tailoring to their own visions.

I believe some people are just in shock, simply put. Give it time.

Reasonable?

Of course no one expected the Raimi suit, what people expected was a suit that stays as true if not truer to the comics and the suit we got doesn't do that. It's more of a departure from the comic than the Raimi suit ever was. They changed far more than the Raimi suit ever changed.

It's not maintaining the classic Spider-man suit that's like saying the Reilly suit maintained the classic Spider-Man suit. It payed homage to it but the design was significantly different just as it is with this new suit.

This suit is close to the same level as the Superman Returns suit in terms of faithfulness... in fact I'd say the SR suit was truer to the comics than this new Spider-Man suit is.

[Alchemyst]

I look at it like this, our first introduction to a big budget Spider-Man film was the Raimi suit, it served it's purpose and walked the fine line of being able to fit in with the film and pay homage to the comic. This new suit had to walk a different line since this is a different retelling of Spider-Man, the decision may be split right down the middle as far as fan reaction to the suit, but the changes made had to be done in order for this film to strive to set itself apart from the Raimi films. The Raimi Spider-Man holds up to the Donner Superman film in my book, we can only wait and see how this new Spidey film does

[NinjaCarm]

Of course no one expected the Raimi suit, what people expected was a suit that stays as true if not truer to the comics and the suit we got doesn't do that. It's more of a departure from the comic than the Raimi suit ever was. They changed far more than the Raimi suit ever changed.

It's not maintaining the classic Spider-man suit that's like saying the Reilly suit maintained the classic Spider-Man suit. It payed homage to it but the design was significantly different just as it is with this new suit.

This suit is close to the same level as the Superman Returns suit in terms of faithfulness... in fact I'd say the SR suit was truer to the comics than this new Spider-Man suit is.

I respectfully disagree with you and believe it is like the comics a great deal. I am willing to take a couple liberties like gloves, spirals, or a beltless Spider-Man when he looks like we got yesterday, which I love.

[Dugath]

Of course no one expected the Raimi suit, what people expected was a suit that stays as true if not truer to the comics and the suit we got doesn't do that. It's more of a departure from the comic than the Raimi suit ever was. They changed far more than the Raimi suit ever changed.

It's not maintaining the classic Spider-man suit that's like saying the Reilly suit maintained the classic Spider-Man suit. It payed homage to it but the design was significantly different just as it is with this new suit.

This suit is close to the same level as the Superman Returns suit in terms of faithfulness... in fact I'd say the SR suit was truer to the comics than this new Spider-Man suit is.

Again.. how do you know this is the final suit? why complain about something you have no facts about..

[Hurm...]

I view Raimi's costume as an adaptation of Romita and Ditko's Spider-Man costume.

However, I see Marc Webb's Spider-Man costume with more personality and flair, kind of like Mcfarlane's Spider-Man costume. Mcfarlane's doesn't look like Webb's in the least bit, but it does have more personality to it then Ditko's.

Neither one is really better then the other, IMO, it just is a different interpretation while still sticking to it's roots.

[NinjaCarm]

Of course no one expected the Raimi suit, what people expected was a suit that stays as true if not truer to the comics and the suit we got doesn't do that. It's more of a departure from the comic than the Raimi suit ever was. They changed far more than the Raimi suit ever changed.

It's not maintaining the classic Spider-man suit that's like saying the Reilly suit maintained the classic Spider-Man suit. It payed homage to it but the design was significantly different just as it is with this new suit.

This suit is close to the same level as the Superman Returns suit in terms of faithfulness... in fact I'd say the SR suit was truer to the comics than this new Spider-Man suit is.

Also, people keep referring it to the Raimi suit, "oh it's not this so it sucks!"

I'm countering that argument with you should have known it was not going to be. Yet they still bring it up.

It's Time For Letting Go

[NinjaCarm]

I view Raimi's costume as an adaptation of Romita and Ditko's Spider-Man costume.

However, I see Marc Webb's Spider-Man costume with more personality and flair, kind of like Mcfarlane's Spider-Man costume. Mcfarlane's doesn't look like Webb's in the least bit, but it does have more personality to it then Ditko's.

Neither one is really better then the other, IMO, it just is a different interpretation while still sticking to it's roots.

Good post.

[NinjaCarm]

This is a universal statement. It can apply to Batman,Iron Man,Captain America etc etc.

Jeez you'd think Sony and Webb came up with something like this


http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9682/ironspidey.jpg
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/7792/spiderman650674x1024.jpg


Instead of the faithful but slightly altered suit we saw yesterday.

Exactly, we could have gotten the dreadfull Alex Ross concept, these above, or some other unfaithfull interpretation. Instead, we go the ol' red and blue with some modifications.

[Spider-Fan83]

with all the griping over the belt less look.... I wonder if they should of just, used the V style cut, like on the Alex Ross design, instead of going look the way down his torso..... if that would of broken it up better
(I've heard alot of people compare it to that design, and you can tell it may of been one of the sources of inspiration for it)

just a quick example of how it would look...
(excuse the rush job...)
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3765/image2di.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/i/image2di.jpg/]http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3765/image2di.jpg)[/URL]


not that I personally, have an issue with it.... it just seems to be the number one thing alot of people seem to be having trouble with... idk, I guess I can see where it might be kinda off putting to some...

[TheSlag]

That "V" manip does not work.

[NinjaCarm]

with all the griping over the belt less look.... I wonder if they should of just, used the V style cut, like on the Alex Ross design, instead of going look the way down his torso..... if that would of broken it up better
(I've heard alot of people compare it to that design, and you can tell it may of been one of the sources of inspiration for it)

just a quick example of how it would look...
(excuse the ruch job...)
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3765/image2di.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/i/image2di.jpg/]http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3765/image2di.jpg)[/URL]



not that I personally, have an issue with it.... it just seems to be the number one thing alot of people seem to be having trouble with... idk, I guess I can see where it might be kinda off putting to some...

That's an interesting look, and good job btw

I would like it more if the triangle would go down a bit further, but cool.

[Alex The Great]

Bleh, I always hated that Alex Ross design. That just heightens my hatred for it

[Alchemyst]

Of course no one expected the Raimi suit, what people expected was a suit that stays as true if not truer to the comics and the suit we got doesn't do that. It's more of a departure from the comic than the Raimi suit ever was. They changed far more than the Raimi suit ever changed.

It's not maintaining the classic Spider-man suit that's like saying the Reilly suit maintained the classic Spider-Man suit. It payed homage to it but the design was significantly different just as it is with this new suit.

This suit is close to the same level as the Superman Returns suit in terms of faithfulness... in fact I'd say the SR suit was truer to the comics than this new Spider-Man suit is.

fact of the matter is, when you saw the pic for the first time, you knew it was Spider-Man. He was recognizeable at first sight, they didn't deviate so far away that you couldn't identify him

[NinjaCarm]

Here's the mask!

http://i53.tinypic.com/f1w301.jpg

:oldrazz:

hey, my avatar :awesome:

[Spider-ManHero12]

Bleh, I always hated that Alex Ross design. Agreed.

[rahan]

I respectfully disagree with you and believe it is like the comics a great deal. I am willing to take a couple liberties like gloves, spirals, or a beltless Spider-Man when he looks like we got yesterday, which I love.
Of course it's like the comics a great deal but it is not like the comics enough and that's the whole point. It could have been far more faithful, there was no reason to change it. It's 70 to 80% there but there was a suit that was 90 to 95% there. I expect people to strive for more accurateness not less. Spider-Man has a certain look and Raimi has proven that you can translate that look almost 100% onto the screen without it looking cheesy or goofy and that's why the new suit's changes to the Spider-Man look are arbitrary. Hell, even Nick Hammonds suit was more accurate than the new one.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Here's the mask!

http://i53.tinypic.com/f1w301.jpg

:oldrazz: Ugh, I've always really disliked that suit.

[rahan]

fact of the matter is, when you saw the pic for the first time, you knew it was Spider-Man. He was recognizeable at first sight, they didn't deviate so far away that you couldn't identify him

Yeah and? I could also identify Routh as Superman and his suit was still crap.

[NinjaCarm]

Of course it's like the comics a great deal but it is not like the comics enough and that's the whole point. It could have been far more faithful, there was no reason to change it. It's 70 to 80% there but there was a suit that was 90 to 95% there. I expect people to strive for more accurateness not less. Spider-Man has a certain look and Raimi has proven that you can translate that look almost 100% onto the screen without it looking cheesy or goofy and that's why the new suit's changes to the Spider-Man look are arbitrary. Hell, even Nick Hammonds suit was more accurate than the new one.

I guess we have different expectations then man. I'm willing to take a few liberties here and there within reason, while, it appears, it appears, ok, that you will not.

If this film ends up being badass classic Spider-Man with little cheese and awesomeness then I will, so to speak, take quality over quantity, meaning the alterations to the costume., which again, I don't have a gripe with.

That's me.

[NinjaCarm]

Yeah and? I could also identify Routh as Superman and his suit was still crap.

I think the dilemma for Superman is his costume is arguablly hard to translate onto screen, let's get that out in the open right now everyone. It really is. That sucker needs to be updated.

And two, Brandon Routh had as much personality as a shoe as Superman.

Three, Superman Returns, was not, I repeat, was not the Superman film, audiences were expecting after a delay since Superman 4 and given the sensibilities or current filmmaking and technology of today.

[Spider-Vader]

I like it! Only problem is that I think it could use more red, but I think I'll forget that over time.

[Gold Samurai]

Of course it's like the comics a great deal but it is not like the comics enough and that's the whole point. It could have been far more faithful, there was no reason to change it. It's 70 to 80% there but there was a suit that was 90 to 95% there.

I expect people to strive for more accurateness not less. Spider-Man has a certain look and Raimi has proven that you can translate that look almost 100% onto the screen without it looking cheesy or goofy and that's why the new suit's changes to the Spider-Man look are arbitrary. Hell, even Nick Hammonds suit was more accurate than the new one.

Jesus, Now we're gripping about percentages?

That's fanboy gripping right there. If they had used the Raimi suit people would

-Call it lazy

-Say "Whatever isn't broke don't fix it"

Bottom line: Both Raimi's and Webb's are an adaptation of the comic version.


-One has raised webbing and lenses for the mask

-The other has different arm designs, different material and dark webbing.

[NinjaCarm]

jesus, now we're gripping about percentages?

that's fanboy gripping right there. If they had used the raimi suit people would

-call it lazy

-say "whatever isn't broke don't fix it"

bottom line: Both raimi's and webb's are an adaptation of the comic version.


-one has raised webbing and lenses for the mask

-the other has different arm designs, different material and dark webbing.

lol

[Whiskey Tango]

It's an alternate universe. The odds that two alternate Peter Parkers would create the exact same suit are precisely 3,164,536,271,564,336,524,463,275,432,754,328,514, 218 to 1.

[Ultimate Doom]

The way I see it is that we have no idea what the context is in this picture, and there are alot of possibilities as to why he looks like this such as:
- Maybe it's his 1st suit before he makes another
- Battle damaged, making it seem all mashed up and missing pieces (Belt)?
- The context of the fight...Is he wet? Was there water? Is it the lighting? Who was he fighting?
- Is this just a bloodied/beaten promotional shot for the sake of proving it's a "darker" reboot?
- Or he could just simply look like this in the film?

[RustyCage]

No I would have no qualms with a symbiote Spidey suit... I wouldn't have liked the Reilly suit though. But the point is, there is no need to change it, it's unecessairy, the comic costume works, there is no need for a basic design change.

The symbiote suit itself was initially just that: a design change. They wanted to switch it up cause they thought it would be cool and fresh. Same thing is in practice here. I don't see the harm.

I'll avoid going into the argument of what qualifies something as iconic, but what you said about Batman would basically sum up my response.

[Alchemyst]

Of course it's like the comics a great deal but it is not like the comics enough and that's the whole point. It could have been far more faithful, there was no reason to change it. It's 70 to 80% there but there was a suit that was 90 to 95% there. I expect people to strive for more accurateness not less. Spider-Man has a certain look and Raimi has proven that you can translate that look almost 100% onto the screen without it looking cheesy or goofy and that's why the new suit's changes to the Spider-Man look are arbitrary. Hell, even Nick Hammonds suit was more accurate than the new one.

Let's get a pie chart going to see which hero had the most accurate comic to film transition

Blade: 90%
Daredevil: 75%
X-Men: 86.5%
Elektra: 58%
Spider-Man: 100.0%

:whatever:
lol

I agree :awesome:

[rahan]

I guess we have different expectations then man. I'm willing to take a few liberties here and there within reason, while, it appears, it appears, ok, that you will not.

If this film ends up being badass classic Spider-Man with little cheese and awesomeness then I will, so to speak, take quality over quantity, meaning the alterations to the costume., which again, I don't have a gripe with.

That's me.
I have no problems with liberties taken but here they are just not necessairy because the design has been proven in 3 movies to work perfectly well and that makes the changes unreasonable to me. They are not necessairy, they add nothing to the design, they are totally arbitrary. Just to make it clear, I'm not talking about the texture. I'm not talking about the black, indented webs I'm not talking about the color or the look of the Spider. I'm talking about blue stripes added to the gloves without rhyme or reason and the removal of the red belt like stripe, which has been a mainstay of Spidey's suit since its inception and is part of his iconic image.

I would have had no problem with a color change for example, instead of blue and red, black and red or somesuch, but removing design elements just because you feel like it and addig some, which do nothing to enhance the look is just too much imho.

I want a Film that is classical Spider-man with little cheese and awesomness and a costume that is more faithful than Raimis, not less.

[Spider-Vader]

People are actually *****ing about it? Oh internet, you never fail to surprise me!

[Alchemyst]

I have no problems with liberties taken but here they are just not necessairy because the design has been proven in 3 movies to work perfectly well and that makes the changes unreasonable to me. They are not necessairy, they add nothing to the design, they are totally arbitrary. Just to make it clear, I'm not talking about the texture. I'm not talking about the black, indented webs I'm not talking about the color or the look of the Spider. I'm talking about blue stripes added to the gloves without rhyme or reason and the removal of the red belt like stripe, which has been a mainstay of Spidey's suit since its inception and is part of his iconic image.

I would have had no problem with a color change for example, instead of blue and red, black and red or somesuch, but removing design elements just because you feel like it and addig some, which do nothing to enhance the look is just too much imho.

I want a Film that is classical Spider-man with little cheese and awesomness and a costume that is more faithful than Raimis, not less.

We live in an age of reboots and remakes, if you don't like what you see, give it 10 years, someone else will come along and reboot it. :o

[newwaveboy87]

We live in an age of reboots and remakes, if you don't like what you see, give it 10 years, someone else will come along and reboot it. :o

Depressing, but wickedly funny

[Gold Samurai]

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5505/12761263.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8504/55336281.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3581/90969362.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/5084/56351636.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6402/32833830.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9747/31301291.jpg


These suits all look different but still maintains the overall look of who this character is




http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5748/spideygarfieldbig.jpg


This suit is slightly different but still maintains the overall look of who this character is.

It's red and blue with webbing detail over the red areas of the suit

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9274/spidermanreboot.jpg

[rahan]

Jesus, Now we're gripping about percentages?

That's fanboy gripping right there. If they had used the Raimi suit people would

-Call it lazy

-Say "Whatever isn't broke don't fix it"

Bottom line: Both Raimi's and Webb's are an adaptation of the comic version.


-One has raised webbing and lenses for the mask

-The other has different arm designs, different material and dark webbing.
NO one said that the Raimi suit should be used.

How about this, just use the new suit we have now, the same suit, remove the stupid blue stripes from the gloves, add the red belt stripe to his midsection and you would hear not a single complain from me, is that enough to make it clear what I don't like about the new suit? Hell, just make it god damn comic book accurate, is that too much to ask?

Raimi and his crew could do it so why not Mister Webb and his designers?

[rahan]

Gold Samurai:

Bad example. Batmans overall design is not iconic, his shape is, as long as you maintain a cape, shaped like batwings, the cowl with the pointy ears and open mouth piece, a utility belt and reasonable dark colors and such you're pretty much safe. Besdes if you take Keatons first suit and compare it to the suit he wore during the Neal Adams years. Well, all you would have to do is paint the Neal Adams version black and it would be pretty much a one to one copy.

Spider-Mans overall look is iconic you can't change a thing there without changing the iconic look, same with Superman, you can't leave away the trunks, cape or boots or it doesn't look like the iconic Superman anymore.

[Alchemyst]

NO one said that the Raimi suit should be used.

How about this, just use the new suit we have now, the same suit, remove the stupid blue stripes from the gloves, add the red belt stripe to his midsection and you would hear not a single complain from me, is that enough to make it clear what I don't like about the new suit? Hell, just make it god damn comic book accurate, is that too much to ask?

Raimi and his crew could do it so why not Mister Webb and his designers?

Simple, because Raimi was the first one to do a big budget Spider-Man film, and at the time when they were going through costume design, there were different versions of the suit, some strayed away, there were even designs where Spidey's mask was going to be transparent, after all of the song and dance was over with, Raimi decided to take the comic book design and add flair to the webbing and overall texture and we got what we all have come to know as the film version of Spidey. Fast forward years down the line after 3 films and we are now at the doorstep of a reboot of the franchise. Marc Webb, realizing that he could not take the lazy route and use the suit that was previously used for the last Spidey trilogy decided to make a few changes to the suit so that it could be unique in its own right and still retain the qualities that enables it to be identified as Spider-Man releases a pic to give fans a glimpse of things to come, and thus starts the war........

[rahan]

Marc Webb, realizing that he could not take the lazy route and use the suit that was previously used for the last Spidey trilogy decided to make a few changes to the suit so that it could be unique in its own right and still retain the qualities that enables it to be identified as Spider-Man releases a pic to give fans a glimpse of things to come, and thus starts the war........
Oh okay, using the comic design that has been, I dunno around for decades is taking the lazy route then? Interesting. Why couldn't he simply use his texture, his webs, his Spider and his colors and leave the rest alone?

It would have looked perfectly different from Raimi's suit and still look accurate without sacrificing basic design elements. Or even better, why not use another comic book design like the symbiote suit, that would have also been different from the Raimi suit considering that the black suit design has never appeared on screen before. That would have been a way to differentiate himself and still stay true to the comics. Just because you do a reboot is no excuse to be unfaithful to the source material.

Actually, looking at it brightened up makes it look even worse, what's with all the god damn seams?! I dislike the thing even more now.

[Alchemyst]

Oh okay, using the comic design that has been, I dunno around for decades is taking the lazy route then? Interesting. Why couldn't he simply use his texture, his webs, his Spider and his colors and leave the rest alone?

It would have looked perfectly different from Raimi's suit and still look accurate without sacrificing basic design elements. Or even better, why not use another comic book design like the symbiote suit, that would have also been different from the Raimi suit considering that the black suit design has never appeared on screen before. That would have been a way to differentiate himself and still stay true to the comics. Just because you do a reboot is no excuse to be unfaithful to the source material.

well as far as I'm concerned, the suit is red, blue, has webs and a spider on the chest, he nailed all the major points. :o

[Whiskey Tango]

Spider-Mans overall look is iconic you can't change a thing there without changing the iconic look,

And yet the Raimi version has significant changes from the classic comic duds.

- raised, silvery webs
- different chest logo
- different spider on the back, changed from the fat one in the comics
- silvery eye lenses

So why are those changes allowed, but the ones on the new suit (which don't affect the overall design) are somehow pissing all over everything that came before?

You can't have it both ways.

[NinjaCarm]

And yet the Raimi version has significant changes from the classic comic duds.

- raised, silvery webs
- different chest logo
- different spider on the back, changed from the fat one in the comics
- silvery eye lenses

So why are those changes allowed, but the ones on the new suit (which don't affect the overall design) are somehow pissing all over everything that came before?

You can't have it both ways.

:applaud:applaud:applaud

[Gold Samurai]

Oh okay, using the comic design that has been, I dunno around for decades is taking the lazy route then? Interesting. Why couldn't he simply use his texture, his webs, his Spider and his colors and leave the rest alone?


You're not reading things properly.


Marc Webb, realizing that he could not take the lazy route and use the suit that was previously used for the last Spidey trilogy


I don't remember the "comic design" having raised webbing and lenses for the mask.

Alchemyst is saying that it would have been lazy for Marc Webb to essentially steal a suit designed from a different movie with a different cast.

And your suggestions for Webb to modify the Raimi suit would just turn it into Marc Webb's suit.


The moment some takes someone else things and starts modifying it, it becomes their own spin on things.

[NinjaCarm]

You're not reading things properly.



:up:

[chaseter]

Because it's a blue wetsuit with red painted on it, look at the super hi res pic, the paint fades into blue down the middle, also it looks like the webbing was done by scraping the red paint away. I say wetsuit because I've seen that exact same "basketball" texture on certain types of suit before

It is in no way a wet suit. The fabric has rubber/latex designed over it. How is that home made:huh:

[DACrowe]

The difference in all this is...the Raimi suits looked good. Yeah they had raised reflective webbing (it was only silvery in some shots), different back spiders, etc.

But it looked, simple, elegant and fitting.

The new one looks way overproduced. The gloves look silly and I hate the belt or whatever that is from the abs down. It looks like a rubbery material painted in a mesh design. The more I see the suit, the more I dislike it.

But...I'm not bent out of shape about this. The changes to the suit, at the end of the day, stem not to make it cooler...but out of an arbitrary need to differentiate it from the Raimi movies. The changes are not organic, but forced.

Still, that is just a small element that had to be changed for PR (and merchandising) reasons. It has little to do with the quality of the film. I still like Garfield as Spidey a lot. I like how it is supposed to have a darker tone (though, I hope they don't go Nolan on us). I like that my favorite villain, The Lizard, is finally getting used. And I like Dennis Leary being in it--period. ;)

The suit, like Peter's Edward Cullen-esque hair are minor things that will not affect the overall quality of the movie. It will be the writing, direction, acting...and as much as I hate to say it, the CGI (this is a superhero movie) that will determine the quality.

My thoughts.

[Alchemyst]

And yet the Raimi version has significant changes from the classic comic duds.

- raised, silvery webs
- different chest logo
- different spider on the back, changed from the fat one in the comics
- silvery eye lenses

So why are those changes allowed, but the ones on the new suit (which don't affect the overall design) are somehow pissing all over everything that came before?

You can't have it both ways.

You get a gold star for the day :awesome:

[craigdbfan]

The difference in all this is...the Raimi suits looked good. Yeah they had raised reflective webbing (it was only silvery in some shots), different back spiders, etc.

But it looked, simple, elegant and fitting.

The new one looks way overproduced. The gloves look silly and I hate the belt or whatever that is from the abs down. It looks like a rubbery material painted in a mesh design. The more I see the suit, the more I dislike it.

But...I'm not bent out of shape about this. The changes to the suit, at the end of the day, stem not to make it cooler...but out of an arbitrary need to differentiate it from the Raimi movies. The changes are not organic, but forced.

Still, that is just a small element that had to be changed for PR (and merchandising) reasons. It has little to do with the quality of the film. I still like Garfield as Spidey a lot. I like how it is supposed to have a darker tone (though, I hope they don't go Nolan on us). I like that my favorite villain, The Lizard, is finally getting used. And I like Dennis Leary being in it--period. ;)

The suit, like Peter's Edward Cullen-esque hair are minor things that will not affect the overall quality of the movie. It will be the writing, direction, acting...and as much as I hate to say it, the CGI (this is a superhero movie) that will determine the quality.

My thoughts.

Well said.

[rahan]

And yet the Raimi version has significant changes from the classic comic duds.

- raised, silvery webs
- different chest logo
- different spider on the back, changed from the fat one in the comics
- silvery eye lenses

So why are those changes allowed, but the ones on the new suit (which don't affect the overall design) are somehow pissing all over everything that came before?

You can't have it both ways.
Don't affect the overall design??? Hello, he removed a whole design piece from the suit and added two that weren't there before. That's affecting the whole design far more than raised, silver webbing does.

As for the Raimi's changes, they are allowed because the did not change the overall design. Silver webbing is still webbing, silver lenses are still lenses, a different chest logo is still a spider (as you might have noticed, those are the same elements I LIKE about the new suit but I bet you didn't bother to read what I'm actually complaining about). The back Spider was a true design change and that's why Raimis suit is only 95% faithful to the comics in my book. However, it is still far more faithfull than the new one.

Point is, Webbs suit is too much of a departure from the comic books to me, especially when I have seen a suit that managed to do much better in terms of faithfulness. I'm just not interested in a Spider-Man that doesn't go the whole mile. No thanks, no reboot for me if the suit looks like that.

[chaseter]

One thing I love about the new suit is the slightly raised, thin, black webbing. That's pretty much what we wanted. Granted it appears parts of the suit don't have webbing, but we kind of got what we wanted. I wish there'd be webbing on the abs area though
It's not raised, it is indented into the raised red part. So everything but the webs are raised.

[Alchemyst]

Don't affect the overall design??? Hello, he removed a whole design piece from the suit and added two that weren't there before. That's affecting the whole design far more than raised, silver webbing does.

As for the Raimi's changes, they are allowed because the did not change the overall design. Silver webbing is still webbing, silver lenses are still lenses, a different chest logo is still a spider (as you might have noticed, those are the same elements I LIKE about the new suit but I bet you didn't bother to read what I'm actually complaining about). The back Spider was a true design change and that's why Raimis suit is only 95% faithful to the comics in my book. However, it is still far more faithfull than the new one.

Point is, Webbs suit is too much of a departure from the comic books to me, especially when I have seen a suit that managed to do much better in terms of faithfulness. I'm just not interested in a Spider-Man that doesn't go the whole mile. No thanks, no reboot for me if the suit looks like that.

You justifiy Raimi's changes, yet you defy Marc Webb's. Rahan, you've gotten 3 films with a pretty much comic book perfect suit, it's only fair to accept the fact that there is a new person in the director's chair and they may have a different vision for Spider-Man. If they ran with anything that looked remotely close to Raimi's version, the general audience could walk out like "that was no different from the other Spider-Man films." Marc Webb is trying to paint a different picture and give us a different take on a character. Liberties have to be taken, simple as that

[The Question]

Here's the mask!

http://i53.tinypic.com/f1w301.jpg

:oldrazz:

I may be weird, but I think I'd really prefer a suit that looked that cheap. It'd reflect Spidey's personality and general tone very well.

[rahan]

You're not reading things properly.





I don't remember the "comic design" having raised webbing and lenses for the mask.

Alchemyst is saying that it would have been lazy for Marc Webb to essentially steal a suit designed from a different movie with a different cast.

And your suggestions for Webb to modify the Raimi suit would just turn it into Marc Webb's suit.


The moment some takes someone else things and starts modifying it, it becomes their own spin on things.

I'm NOT talking about modifying the Raimi suit, I never have, stop putting words into my mouth! Not silver, raised webbing or lenses or texture I'm talking about Mister Webbs suit, adding the classic comic elements like the goddamn red belt stripe and removing his stupid blue stripes what the hell has Raimis design elements to do with that?

All I ever said what that Rami managed to stay far truer to the comic look and that makes his suit superior to Webbs in my book.

Have you actually read what I was complaining about or did you simply read "Raimis suit is more faithful" and " I don't like Webbs suit" and triggered on that?

[NinjaCarm]

You justifiy Raimi's changes, yet you defy Marc Webb's. Rahan, you've gotten 3 films with a pretty much comic book perfect suit, it's only fair to accept the fact that there is a new person in the director's chair and they may have a different vision for Spider-Man. If they ran with anything that looked remotely close to Raimi's version, the general audience could walk out like "that was no different from the other Spider-Man films." Marc Webb is trying to paint a different picture and give us a different take on a character. Liberties have to be taken, simple as that

yeah, get over it, for all our sakes :whatever:

thank goodness, thank the stars, the gods, what have you for an upcoming different vision

[Whiskey Tango]

As for the Raimi's changes, they are allowed

I think I've seen all I need to see.

[chaseter]

I look at it like this, our first introduction to a big budget Spider-Man film was the Raimi suit, it served it's purpose and walked the fine line of being able to fit in with the film and pay homage to the comic. This new suit had to walk a different line since this is a different retelling of Spider-Man, the decision may be split right down the middle as far as fan reaction to the suit, but the changes made had to be done in order for this film to strive to set itself apart from the Raimi films. The Raimi Spider-Man holds up to the Donner Superman film in my book, we can only wait and see how this new Spidey film does

Which is the reason I, as well as all of us, should give it a chance. If the movie is great and it works in the context of the movie, then it will work. Do I love it? No. Is it the best suit ever made? No. Will it work in the movie? Who knows...we need to see the movie. But as of right now, we are all going off of a picture because that is all the information we have. If nobody could critique or dissect anything until the movie came out, then this place would be pretty pointless until a movie came out.

[Alchemyst]

yeah, get over it, for all our sakes :whatever:

I agree, at the end of the day I'm still gonna go watch it :cwink:

[craigdbfan]

Which is the reason I, as well as all of us, should give it a chance. If the movie is great and it works in the context of the movie, then it will work. Do I love it? No. Is it the best suit ever made? No. Will it work in the movie? Who knows...we need to see the movie. But as of right now, we are all going off of a picture because that is all the information we have. If nobody could critique or dissect anything until the movie came out, then this place would be pretty pointless until a movie came out.

That about sums it up.

[NinjaCarm]

I think I've seen all I need to see.

wow, talk about a hypocritical response if i ever saw one - to the "Raimi changes they are allowed" statement

and i say this without sarcasm or anger or whatever, i am simply pointing out a fact, plain and simple

[rahan]

You justifiy Raimi's changes, yet you defy Marc Webb's. Rahan, you've gotten 3 films with a pretty much comic book perfect suit, it's only fair to accept the fact that there is a new person in the director's chair and they may have a different vision for Spider-Man. If they ran with anything that looked remotely close to Raimi's version, the general audience could walk out like "that was no different from the other Spider-Man films." Marc Webb is trying to paint a different picture and give us a different take on a character. Liberties have to be taken, simple as that
Ah okay, so adding the red stripe that has been there in the comics for ages is making it too much like Raimis suit even though we have a completely different web design, spider, texture, heck even material, is that it. Gees and here I thought it was... well what Spider-Man's suit is supposed to look like. My goodness I hope they don't give him black frames around the lenses, might be too much like Raimi's.

[chaseter]

And yet the Raimi version has significant changes from the classic comic duds.

- raised, silvery webs
- different chest logo
- different spider on the back, changed from the fat one in the comics
- silvery eye lenses

So why are those changes allowed, but the ones on the new suit (which don't affect the overall design) are somehow pissing all over everything that came before?

You can't have it both ways.
I would say this suit gets more reaction because it has more changes.

[NinjaCarm]

rahan you do know we got a more accurate color blue and black webbing and perhaps even web-shooters this go 'round, right?

[Boom]

Even if this costume had kept the classic design, it still would have looked different enough from Raimi's suit to stand on its own. Hell, just look at the manips. The colors, materials, and textures are entirely different.

Besides, the general audience thinks Spider-Man looks cool. Do you really think they would have given a **** if Webb repeated the classic design? I think not.

[Alchemyst]

Ah okay, so adding the red stripe that has been there in the comics for ages is making it too much like Raimis suit even though we have a completely different web design, spider, texture, heck even material, is that it. Gees and here I thought it was... well what Spider-Man's suit is supposed to look like. My goodness I hope they don't give him black frames around the lenses, might be too much like Raimi's.

look bro, I'm not trying to put you on blast, if you dislike the suit, that's your opinion. I personally like both suits equally, at a glance I know exactly that it's Spider-Man, this is only the first film of a new franchise, so who knows exactly what changes will be made in the future. Let's just sit back and wait for a trailer so we can all see it in action, that's what will make or break things.

[TheSlag]

The way I see it is that we have no idea what the context is in this picture, and there are alot of possibilities as to why he looks like this such as:
- Maybe it's his 1st suit before he makes another
- Battle damaged, making it seem all mashed up and missing pieces (Belt)?
- The context of the fight...Is he wet? Was there water? Is it the lighting? Who was he fighting?
- Is this just a bloodied/beaten promotional shot for the sake of proving it's a "darker" reboot?
- Or he could just simply look like this in the film?

I vote for all of the above! :woot:

[Gold Samurai]

I'm NOT talking about modifying the Raimi suit, I never have, stop putting words into my mouth!

Oh okay, using the comic design that has been, I dunno around for decades is taking the lazy route then? Interesting. Why couldn't he simply use his texture, his webs, his Spider and his colors and leave the rest alone?



Texture- basketball type texture

His webs- Black webs

His Spider- Longer legs than Raimi's

His colors- Slightly brighter

[craigdbfan]

Anyone want to take a wild guess as to when we'll get the mask revealed.

Also anyone want to take a gander in what form we'll receive it in. Leaked or official?

I'm leaning towards it being a leak within the next 3 months or so.

[chaseter]

Oy, I just saw the picture of Green Goblin costume on Broadway. :dry:

Makes me appreciate this movie suit more and more.

http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/8372/spidermanmusicalgreengo.jpg

[NinjaCarm]

Guys and gals, let's all calmate, ok

at least we didn't get...
http://www.**************.com/images/users/gallerypictures/8375L.jpg

[Hurm...]

http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/8372/spidermanmusicalgreengo.jpg
:dry: Lady Gaga eat your heart out.

[Alchemyst]

Guys and gals, let's all calmate, ok

at least we didn't get...
http://www.**************.com/images/users/gallerypictures/8375L.jpg

Ahhh.....Toei's Japanese Supaida-Man....we meet again

[Hurm...]

Anyone want to take a wild guess as to when we'll get the mask revealed.

Also anyone want to take a gander in what form we'll receive it in. Leaked or official?

I'm leaning towards it being a leak within the next 3 months or so.
Probably leaked through set photos.

[Boom]

That reminds me.

Anyone have a picture of the Spidey suit from the Broadway show?

[craigdbfan]

Probably leaked through set photos.

Any guesses at the timeframe of leak?

[craigdbfan]

http://taylorshocks.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/1291377362-spider-man-turn-off-the-dark-spider-man-green-goblin-and-mary-jane-16-11-10-kc1.jpg?w=570&h=384

[rahan]

wow, talk about a hypocritical response if i ever saw one - to the "Raimi changes they are allowed" statement

and i say this without sarcasm or anger or whatever, i am simply pointing out a fact, plain and simple

My goodness why is it hypocritical? Raimi didn't change the overall design, everything that is in the comic is there, just little details are changed, if Rami would have made the same design changes as Webb I would have booed his suit too. But alas, the red shapes in the comic are the red shapes in Raimi's suit, the blue costume parts in the comics are the blue costume parts in Raimi's suit. There are webs, there are Spiders, there are lenses.

Those are the classical elements of a Spiderman suit, emblem shape, color, raised web or non-raised webs are something you can change yes, just as Mister Webb did, how many times do I have to say that I like his color, his texture, his Spider, his Webs, what I don't like is removing comic elements like the stripe belt or adding weird blue stripes to the gloves were there aren't supposed to be such things. Is it so outragous to just want the Webb suit to not muck up these things?

When I saw Raimis initial designs for his suit, the one with the red stripes down the side of his legs I didn't like that too, why because it was not a comic accurate design. There was never a red webbed shape on his legs and I hope there never will be.

[Boom]

I'm trying so hard to take that picture seriously.


And I'm failing horribly.

[craigdbfan]

Are they having a three way is the question?

[Ultimate Doom]

good god lol.

i kinda want to see it now

[NinjaCarm]

@ rahan

I'm done dude, your not allowing logic into your arguments with people so it's a lose lose situation.

Sorry you don't like the suit.

Hasta

[chaseter]

Shasta

[rahan]

rahan you do know we got a more accurate color blue and black webbing and perhaps even web-shooters this go 'round, right?
Yeah so what?
I like the blue I don't mind the black web, though I did like the silver webbing... that's stuff I don't care about it could have been black instead of blue with silver webbing, I wouldn't have minded. what I mind is removing basic design shapes, how many times do I have to repeat that.

As for the webshooters, great I really like that but I still don't like the suit.

[NinjaCarm]

Fiesta

[chaseter]

It's the Green Gargoyle.

[craigdbfan]

with a mohawk.

[Alchemyst]

well....moving right along, I sure can't wait til they release some more pics. I love Spider-Man :awesome:

[Gold Samurai]

http://taylorshocks.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/1291377362-spider-man-turn-off-the-dark-spider-man-green-goblin-and-mary-jane-16-11-10-kc1.jpg?w=570&h=384


Hey it's Lorne from "Angel"

(btw I know the actor that played Lorne died)

[Gold Samurai]

As soon as they start filming outside with the suit we should see the mask.

[rahan]

Texture- basketball type texture

His webs- Black webs

His Spider- Longer legs than Raimi's

His colors- Slightly brighter
Oh dude, you completely got it wrong. I didn't mean Raimis texture, Spider and webs.

I meant Webbs, the texture of Webbs suit, Webbs Spider- Shield, and Webbs color just with the basic comic shape, like Raimi did with his suit.

Just take Webbs suit add the stripe belt and remove the blue stripes from the gloves and I would really like the Webb suit... well maybe get rid of the seams too

[craigdbfan]

As soon as they start filming outside with the suit we should see the mask.

Shouldn't be to far from now seeing as we got those Captain Stacy pics.

Spidey has to be around there somewhere hopefully.

[Alchemyst]

http://taylorshocks.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/1291377362-spider-man-turn-off-the-dark-spider-man-green-goblin-and-mary-jane-16-11-10-kc1.jpg?w=570&h=384

uh....what's Spider-Man doing to Green Goblin/Gargoyle??? whatever it is, he's not taking "no" for an answer

[Gold Samurai]

Oh dude, you completely got it wrong. I didn't mean Raimis texture, Spider and webs.

I meant Webbs, the texture of Webbs suit, Webbs Spider- Shield, and Webbs color just with the basic comic shape, like Raimi did with his suit.


I know what you meant.

You basically said "why couldn't Webb take Raimi's suit and add his own stuff to it"

And Webb added his own stuff but NOT to Raimi's suit. I proceeded to list off Webb's own modifications.


This is what you get

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/593/garfieldspiderman1y.jpg

[Alchemyst]

I can't wait to see what the Lizard is gonna look like, something tells me his design is gonna be vicious

[Ultimate Doom]

Thought I would post this http://movies.ign.com/articles/114/1144104p1.html

[rahan]

I know what you meant.

You basically said "why couldn't Webb take Raimi's suit and add his own stuff to it"

And Webb added his own stuff but NOT to Raimi's suit. I proceeded to list off Webb's own modifications.


This is what you get

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/593/garfieldspiderman1y.jpg
Yeah and it could be a nice suit, all it takes is the stripe belt and doing away with the blue stripes on the gloves that is all my gripe and is that making it too much like Raimis? This suit would look nice if it would have adhered to the comics more by adding the red stripe on the waiste. But as it is now it falls short.

I have no problem with the modifications your mentioned just that they were not added to a basic comic design template, namely,. red boots, blue leggings, red belt stripe, red V stripe down his torso with the rest of the shirt blue, red shoulders, red stripes down the arms and red gloves

[rahan]

Thought I would post this http://movies.ign.com/articles/114/1144104p1.html
AMEN, these exaclty my problems with the suit too!

[socool]

AMEN, these exaclty my problems with the suit too!

did you read it? they only mentioned the lack of a belt as a problem. not that im trying to start a fight. and i agree, the belt woulkd be a nice addition. the gloves are...meh. i dont care if the blue line stays or goes...

the rest i love!!!! :hrt:

[craigdbfan]

I agree wholeheartedly with the article. This actually shows that there has been more backlash than I thought. IGN every now and then makes a good article and they nailed everything that just doesn't work with the reboot costume.

Looks like a 50/50 split.

[Ultimate Doom]

At the end of the article on the last page they also delve into why the Rami costume was so amazing.

But I think we already knew that

[rahan]

did you read it? they only mentioned the lack of a belt as a problem. not that im trying to start a fight. and i agree, the belt woulkd be a nice addition. the gloves are...meh. i dont care if the blue line stays or goes...

the rest i love!!!! :hrt:
Ah yeah, and that's exaclty my gripe, nothing else. That's all I have been saying for the past few pages, Just add the red stripe at the waist and the suit would be good. Well perhaps remove the blue stripes on the gloves too. That's all the problem I have with the suit, that they removed the red stripe and mucked up the basic comic design by doing that.

[craigdbfan]

At the end of the article on the last page they also delve into why the Rami costume was so amazing.

But I think we already knew that

It is Amazing.

It could have also been turned spectacular but instead they went for practical seam trotting basejumper Spider-Man. This would have been fine for a television adaptation of the character if there ever was one.

But the greatness of the Raimi costume lies in how it just shattered any doubt of the Ditko design not working on screen with a few alterations to amplify the characteristics of the costume. It looked incredible and seeing it in movement was also amazing.

There is so much magic as corny as that may sound that I found in the Ditko/Lee run. Thats what Spider-Man is all about IMO.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Shouldn't be to far from now seeing as we got those Captain Stacy pics.

Spidey has to be around there somewhere hopefully. Agreed, which would coincide with why they released an image of Garfield in the suit so early.

[Spider-ManHero12]

http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/8372/spidermanmusicalgreengo.jpg My god, that's horrible. I tried erasing it from my memory.

[craigdbfan]

If stupid ever became a person then that thing trying to pass as the Green Goblin would be it.

[Spider-ManHero12]

If stupid ever became a person then that thing trying to pass as the Green Goblin would be it. This. :up:

[Xtroid]

I can't wait to see what the Lizard is gonna look like, something tells me his design is gonna be vicious

Something like this I hope. Nothing too fancy.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/spider-man-vs-lizard.jpg

[craigdbfan]

I like the Spidey costume in that picture its awesome. :O

[ben_reilly_s_s]

behold, my amazing MicroSoft Paint skillz...
lol...
there is a lot more blue in the gloves than i thought....
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/Kinetic_BlueStreak/SPIDEY-GARFIELDre-coloured.jpg
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Edit...1000th post!!!!!

[Hurm...]

behold, my amazing MicroSoft Paint skillz...
lol...
there is a lot more blue in the gloves than i thought....
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/Kinetic_BlueStreak/SPIDEY-GARFIELDre-coloured.jpg
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Edit...1000th post!!!!!
Looks like a snuggie.

[ben_reilly_s_s]

i needed the colours to stand out more not only against the dark red and dark blue but against the dark background....
i didn't put the weblines in cause they look terrible... They stop halfway down the chest and are present only in certain spots on the gloves...

[Boom]

If you look at the brightened, high-res photo, you can see red going down the right arm, like the classic design.

[Hurm...]

i needed the colours to stand out more not only against the dark red and dark blue but against the dark background....
i didn't put the weblines in cause they look terrible... They stop halfway down the chest and are present only in certain spots on the gloves...
http://oi54.tinypic.com/28hznsj.jpg

[Immortalfire]

hey, my avatar :awesome:

Dirty thief. :cmad:

[TheWatcher]

The suit looks great!

It seems as if his belt WAS there, but it was ripped off.

[TheWatcher]

Yep, after seeing the lightened version, His belt was definitely there, but it was ripped off by the unknown villain. :liz:

[ben_reilly_s_s]

No, the shoulder and the elbow in the Hi-Res both end in a point....

[Mace Bloodstone]

Maybe there is a story behind where or how he gets or makes the suit.. The blue stripes in the gloves are such a minor alteration, let it go already. :funny:

[CrazyForSwayze]

I really like how it's kind of scrappy in places, the fact that the webbing isn't perfect in certain spots is great for the whole home-made theory

[Nathan]

It really looks like he bought a suit that was already red and blue, had the proper pattern and just went crazy on it with a marker. And that's why I like it so much. And I'm looking forward to the day we see a suit, that he could properly work on, with a bigger budget after getting a well paying job at the Bugle.

[Ultimate Doom]

It really looks like he bought a suit that was already red and blue, had the proper pattern and just went crazy on it with a marker. And that's why I like it so much. And I'm looking forward to the day we see a suit, that he could properly work on, with a bigger budget after getting a well paying job at the Bugle.

I hope thats kinda what they are going for, only it would be nice to see the improved suit in the first movie without having to wait.

[Doctor Jones]

I'm starting to like the costume more than yesterday. I will remain open minded.

What I like:

- The blues and the materials for that.
- how the spider symbol blends into the web design
- the blue streaks in the wrists are beginning to grow on me
- The top half of the suit.

What I don't like:

- I still hate those gloves. It just screams Kick Ass to me. That's my biggest fear with this costume. If they followed that they completely missed the point of Kick Ass.
- The thing I hate most is how the web pattern just completely disapears towards his stomach and goes into this grid.
- the two largest legs going downwards. It looks sloppy when it's that far down.
- my creeping fears they're going for a "dark and gritty home made version" which I hope isn't the case at all. I'm holding out hope his costume is just damaged and it will look much better repaired and in the day time in full.

[Doctor Jones]

Who cares? This is about a kid who gets bit by a spider. I don't care how he makes the suit. Do we question the science of how the spider becomes radioactive or how a kid can survive getting bitten by such a thing?

This isn't Batman Begins where we need to see and know about the steps of his suit. We don't need to see intricate details. It should just be an image. I don't want a ****** looking suit just because it "fits into the real world." I want something that's pleasing to the eye. The concept is already unrealistic as it is. When you try to bring the suit into the real world and do what it could be doing, it contradicts itself.

[Alchemyst]

I'm starting to like the costume more than yesterday. I will remain open minded.

What I like:

- The blues and the materials for that.
- how the spider symbol blends into the web design
- the blue streaks in the wrists are beginning to grow on me
- The top half of the suit.

What I don't like:

- I still hate those gloves. It just screams Kick Ass to me. That's my biggest fear with this costume. If they followed that they completely missed the point of Kick Ass.
- The thing I hate most is how the web pattern just completely disapears towards his stomach and goes into this grid.
- the two largest legs going downwards. It looks sloppy when it's that far down.
- my creeping fears they're going for a "dark and gritty home made version" which I hope isn't the case at all. I'm holding out hope his costume is just damaged and it will look much better repaired and in the day time in full.

As far as the gloves, do you not like them because the blue part kinda sections them off?

[Whiskey Tango]

What is it about the gloves that makes people think of Kick-Ass? Dude wore yellow kitchen gloves.

[Whiskey Tango]

Only online fans worry about that ****. The GA could care less.

[Nathan]

First steps are always fun to watch. It's always interesting to watch the hero figure things out and try stuff, before he becomes a full fledged hero. To me, this is like Ironman's Mach 1 armor.

I didn't like how, once he decided to put on the suit in the Raimi Movie, people already started to talk about him and how he'd been doing his thing in the city, apparently for a while now.

[Alchemyst]

What is it about the gloves that makes people think of Kick-Ass? Dude wore yellow kitchen gloves.

I dunno, I've never seen the movie before. :csad:

[Ultimate Doom]

Eh, the blue stylized lines are kind of reminiscent of the ones on his body costume, other than that i have no idea lol..

[terry78]

This is the one that it reminds me of the most. Artists take some liberties when drawing the suit, but it can be assumed that in most incarnations it's got to be some kind of mesh material.

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9274/spidermanreboot.jpg

[Doctor Jones]

As far as the gloves, do you not like them because the blue part kinda sections them off?

Yeah. It's very uneccessary to me. The don't even have webs near those places. There's just three going down in the hand if you look closely. That blue part just interupts the design of the red gloves.

And the gloves or how it crinkles just gives off an amateur vibe to me. I don't know, maybe it is professionally made and that's just what it looks like when it functions.

But as Saint said, he's battle damaged, so it's a bit unfair to judge the entire thing. Hopefully some of the design and finish came off in whatever battle he got himself into. I just hope there is the red band around his waste.

It is Spider-Man. It looks like him. I know it's him. I'll wait to see what he looks like in context, but I want a fun Spider-Man film. Sure I want a serious film with darker moments, but I hope we don't get something like this in every scene he's in.

[Hurm...]

It really looks like he bought a suit that was already red and blue, had the proper pattern and just went crazy on it with a marker. And that's why I like it so much. And I'm looking forward to the day we see a suit, that he could properly work on, with a bigger budget after getting a well paying job at the Bugle.I agree. I showed the image to my sister, who liked the Raimi films, and she thinks this one looks better for those very reasons.

[Chiroptera]

just for fun. :oldrazz:

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee375/ZetaRiticulan/11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 111111111111111111spidermansuit.jpg?t=1295064313

[El Payaso]

Who cares? This is about a kid who gets bit by a spider. I don't care how he makes the suit. Do we question the science of how the spider becomes radioactive or how a kid can survive getting bitten by such a thing?

This isn't Batman Begins where we need to see and know about the steps of his suit. We don't need to see intricate details. It should just be an image. I don't want a ****** looking suit just because it "fits into the real world." I want something that's pleasing to the eye. The concept is already unrealistic as it is. When you try to bring the suit into the real world and do what it could be doing, it contradicts itself.

With all due respect, is this not BB? Do we know the actual tone and approach of this new movie? The Batman concept can be as unrealistic as Spiderman.

[Pac-Master]

After the excitement of seeing the suit for the first time has worn off, I can now say that the only thing that I'm not really fond of on the suit is the blue on the gloves. It just looks kind of weird. Everything else is fine. The mask is an important part of the equation too, so we'll see how it fits.

[Psycho Hulk]

I like the idea of the webshooters on the arm...if thats what they are. I think it will be interesting to see how they are used in the film since we already had a taste of the organic webs.

[aka Kal el]

Probably leaked through set photos.

Official: BTW this was done a a preemptive strike due to upcoming filming in suit.So expect leaked images of filming soon.:cwink:

[Excelsior.]

we already had a taste of the organic webskristen Dunst certainly did.

[Boom]

kristen Dunst certainly did.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:wzFB2X1s3dgjXM:http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j145/Jvchequer/Trollface_HD.jpg&t=1

[NinjaCarm]

First steps are always fun to watch. It's always interesting to watch the hero figure things out and try stuff, before he becomes a full fledged hero. To me, this is like Ironman's Mach 1 armor.

I didn't like how, once he decided to put on the suit in the Raimi Movie, people already started to talk about him and how he'd been doing his thing in the city, apparently for a while now.

The scene where he became Spider-Man was so glanced over, when I first saw it, I wanted to puke, I really did.

It was like, ok, I'm Spider-Man for ten seconds, back to Peter Parker....

...

uuhhhhhh.... just thinking of it.... my stomach....

[Eelectro 2]

that darn smiley was used on the officialsawforum too!!! uhg! its everywhere!!!

[Eelectro 2]

well if the film starts with him already having been spider-man for a few months then i dont think we will really get to see the spider-man getting used to things and his powers.

[Eelectro 2]

lol i think the eyes are a bit too big, it needs to have more of a squinty look than that, but not by much. and is that a utility belt?

[Eelectro 2]

seriously though, green goblin needs to be redeemed. first the power ranger remarks, now this flamboyant stage goblin... we need a real down to earth and threatening goblin in the sequel and he should NOT be cackling every time hes on screen. hes not the laughing goblin

[Majik1387]

The Power Ranger comments of Green Goblin have and always will be retarded and naive. The stage version is for a musical which is also creating a new villainess for Spidey, but yeah, doesn't look that good.

[Spider-Fan]

This costume is meh. I don't hate it, but I don't love it. The costume just doesn't look right. The Raimi suit looked like a good modenization of the suit. This one just lacks.

[The Original Bamfer]

Far, far superior in my opinion. It has personality to it. Raimi's suit (and everything regarding his Spider-Man, actually) lacked personality.

[Hole Shot]

I would just recommend that people wait to see it in context before judging it completely.

Consider that we're getting a suit that's supposed to look like it was homemade made by a lower middle class teenager still trying to figure things out.

I loved the Raimi suit but I'm sure that I'm not the only the person that had a "where the hell did he get that?" reaction as soon he first appeared in it. Especially when the best he could come up with before that was a pair of sweats.

[itsleroy]

I'm now sure that I like Webb's more than Raimi's. Raimi's suit is perfect.. too perfect. It doesn't seem believable, at least not to me. Webb's suit looks much more believable.

[SpiderJ]

I think the new suit looks pretty awesome!!

When I first saw it, I thought it was kind of "messy."

But, the more I looked at it, the more I started to like it.

I love the colors, and the design gives off a very "urban" somewhat gritty feel.

[The Original Bamfer]

You're right, Raimi's suit definitely didn't look believable when the Playstation 2-grade CGI Spidey swung through the city skyline in the films. :down

[Boom]

Could someone post a link to the super high-res version of the suit? I'd really rather not search through the entire thread :csad:.

Thanks :up:.