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Spideyfan93
01-22-2011, 05:03 PM
good lord, i have lost all faith in the captain america movie...t3h puffy...my feet look more realistic than that!!
You are just one of many ignorant idiots who don't have a good logic. You really judge a film by stunt feet?! Sad. And I'm sorry but I can't sugarcoat comments like that.
Eddie Brock
01-22-2011, 05:04 PM
You are just one of many ignorant idiots who don't have a good logic. You really judge a film by stunt feet?! Sad. And I'm sorry but I can't sugarcoat comments like that.
I think/hope he was being sarcastic. If not, I endorse your comment.
chaseter
01-22-2011, 05:08 PM
You are one of the most cynical people I have EVER met.
Mission accomplished.
Archangel08
01-22-2011, 05:13 PM
I hope you're being sarcastic, it's hard to tell lately.:csad:
hahaha thank you for being able to read my sarcasm, i see people after you didn't get it lol
Eddie Brock
01-22-2011, 05:14 PM
hahaha thank you for being able to read my sarcasm, i see people after you didn't get it lol
The "my feet are more realistic" line was a giveaway, but with the internet these days...:oldrazz:
rahan
01-22-2011, 05:15 PM
So the design of the costume is sole proof that they're deviating too much? Forget that they're starting with Gwen instead of MJ. Forget that Captain Stacy is going to Spider-Man's ally. Forget that he's going to spend most (if not all) of the first movie in high school. Forget that they're going to introduce his parents. Those are just story details. Nope. It's the costume that proves they're not taking the source material seriously.
I don't mean to sound like I'm attacking you - I'm really not - I just find absolutely no merit in condemning a movie without having seen a single reel of film. I'm not saying you have to like the movie before you see it. I'm just saying that it's ridiculous to completely write it off before you see it.
All nice and dandy, might turn out to be all great I don't know, however what I DO know because I see it with my own eyes is that the costume department doesn't seem to adher to the comics much and if that is an indicator to the way Webb handles faithfulness then it's better not to expect too much from the other departments.
Who knows, the writer might turn Captain Stacy into a drunkard or Gwen into a Skank, as for Peter's parents, they have only one story purpose... being dead, they aren't really important to the Spidey canon so I couldn't care less if they are in this movie or not. (no, I don't consider that awful story about his parent's clones to be a good Spider-Man story)
Stelze
01-22-2011, 05:16 PM
best statement i've read online all week lmao
You're welcome.
Spideyfan93
01-22-2011, 05:18 PM
hahaha thank you for being able to read my sarcasm, i see people after you didn't get it lol
Holy Crap! I'm sorry man hahahaha!
I had to hear that **** on the Cap boards so much that it angered me and I wasn't thinking straight. Not the best sarcasm reader.
Eddie Brock
01-22-2011, 05:19 PM
All nice and dandy, might turn out to be all great I don't know, however what I DO know because I see it with my own eyes is that the costume department doesn't seem to adher to the comics much and if that is an indicator to the way Webb handles faithfulness then it's better not to expect too much from the other departments.
Who knows, the writer might turn Captain Stacy into a drunkard or Gwen into a Skank, as for Peter's parents, they have only one story purpose... being dead, they aren't really important to the Spidey canon so I couldn't care less if they are in this movie or not. (no, I don't consider that awful story about his parent's clones to be a good Spider-Man story)
And I'm merely suggesting that blind extrapolation from a few spy photos might be a poor judge of a movie, especially at this early stage. That's all. But you do make a good point: we have no clue how the rest of the movie is going to go. That's why I'm suggesting some people put down the pitchforks.
Archangel08
01-22-2011, 05:20 PM
Holy Crap! I'm sorry man hahahaha!
I had to hear that **** on the Cap boards so much that it angered me and I wasn't thinking straight. Not the best sarcasm reader.
hahaha it's all good...were people really complaining about it on the cap boards?? i haven't kept up with with forums here in a long while...if so, wow haha
rahan
01-22-2011, 05:21 PM
You are one of the most cynical people I have EVER met. Seriously, you are against everything aside from the Raimi suit. Granted, it was a nice suit. Doesn't mean every other thing sucks.
The new suit still sucks and not because it isn't the Raimi suit. It sucks because it isn't faithful to the comics. You know what would make that suit not suck? The following:
1.) Get rid of the red stripes on the legs.
2.) add the red belt stripe that has been there for oh, around 40 years.
3.) get rid of the stupid blue parts of the gloves and silver parts of his boots.
There, three easy steps that would make the new suit design good.
Stelze
01-22-2011, 05:23 PM
The new suit still sucks and not because it isn't the Raimi suit. It sucks because it isn't faithful to the comics. You know what would make that suit not suck? The following:
1.) Get rid of the red stripes on the legs.
2.) add the red belt stripe that has been there for oh, around 40 years.
3.) get rid of the stupid blue parts of the gloves and silver parts of his boots.
There, three easy steps that would make the new suit design good.
Oh my god...
If I ever see the term "faithful to the comics" again I will probably tear my eyeballs out...
Eddie Brock
01-22-2011, 05:24 PM
hahaha it's all good...were people really complaining about it on the cap boards?? i haven't kept up with with forums here in a long while...if so, wow haha
Fanboys will complain about anything. Even things which seem like no-brainers. But, of course, such is life. You'll never find something that 100% of people agree on. *shrug*
Majik1387
01-22-2011, 05:24 PM
The new suit still sucks and not because it isn't the Raimi suit. It sucks because it isn't faithful to the comics. You know what would make that suit not suck? The following:
1.) Get rid of the red stripes on the legs.
2.) add the red belt stripe that has been there for oh, around 40 years.
3.) get rid of the stupid blue parts of the gloves and silver parts of his boots.
There, three easy steps that would make the new suit design good.
I'm assuming you missed this
http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/spiderman-reboot-costumes-wardrobe-spidersuit.jpg-43486d1295714198
Eddie Brock
01-22-2011, 05:25 PM
Oh my god...
If I ever see the term "faithful to the comics" again I will probably tear my eyeballs out...
You are in the wrong place, then, my friend. I've been here since Spider-Man 3's pre-production, and let me tell you: it's never going away. :oldrazz:
Archangel08
01-22-2011, 05:27 PM
The new suit still sucks and not because it isn't the Raimi suit. It sucks because it isn't faithful to the comics. You know what would make that suit not suck? The following:
1.) Get rid of the red stripes on the legs.
2.) add the red belt stripe that has been there for oh, around 40 years.
3.) get rid of the stupid blue parts of the gloves and silver parts of his boots.
There, three easy steps that would make the new suit design good.
i agree...this design bugs me because it's fairly different than what's established in the comics...TRUE that for the most part it's there, but those details that he listed, yeah, it's strange enough for me personally to strike me as odd...
most of you with opposing thoughts, however, will once again bring up TDK...you have a good point with that, but i feel like since they were going for a more "realistic" approach, it was a LOGICAL (within the realm of suspension of disbelief) change, since it would make sense for batman to have armor...true that may not fly with EVERYBODY, but for me personally, i'm cool with it in that respect
with this spidey, however, i don't think they're trying to make it any more "realistic" similar to how BB and TDK did compared to the old school batman movies...either way, this spidey movie is spidey in tights, so all the changes to the costume are purely aesthetic...TO BE FAIR, it probably was pretty difficult for the crew to come up with a traditional spidey design that isn't the raimi costume, since that costume was pretty much taken straight from the comics (raised/silver webbing aside, cuz i know people will bring that up lol)
*EDIT* by faithful, i'm not referring to that with great responsibility costume, i meant the usual spidey costume...btw, is the great responsiblity costume an 616 history, or is it an alternate universe?
Stelze
01-22-2011, 05:28 PM
You are in the wrong place, then, my friend. I've been here since Spider-Man 3's pre-production, and let me tell you: it's never going away. :oldrazz:
I know, I've been reading the forums for a pretty long time now, I just started posting yesterday though.
Spideyfan93
01-22-2011, 05:28 PM
There are points where being faithful is necessary and there are times when it isn't.
Captain America is a great example...a faithful costume straight from the original comics would have been so goofy and LMFAO worthy.
rahan
01-22-2011, 05:31 PM
I'm assuming you missed this
No I did not, it is from a mini series not from relevant continuity. It's essentially an elseworld tale, nothing more. If the suit in those pics should be considered relevant, Peter could wear that Indian Spider-Man suit or the Manga Spider-Man suit.
Gianakin_
01-22-2011, 05:31 PM
I'm assuming you missed this
http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/spiderman-reboot-costumes-wardrobe-spidersuit.jpg-43486d1295714198
Heh, and you know what? That makes the suit very faithful to the comics right now!
El Payaso
01-22-2011, 05:31 PM
has anyone else noticed that the new suit looks exactly the same as his WRESTLING suit in the comics??
http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/spiderman-reboot-costumes-wardrobe-spidersuit.jpg-43486d1295714198
Excpet that they got the webbing right. :(
Stelze
01-22-2011, 05:32 PM
Well I'd rather see a good movie with a not so faithful adaption of the suit, than a crappy movie with a spot on faithful adaption of the suit. (Spider-Man 3)
Let the flaming begin!
Eddie Brock
01-22-2011, 05:32 PM
It's really not a matter of "faithfulness." It's a matter of catering to your medium. Comic books and movies are different beasts. Spider-Man's suit (in the comics) is his suit out of tradition. It's been that way, more or less, for 40 years. But the movie is something new. It's not beholden to continuity or respect (for lack of a better word) to its predecessors. This is Spider-Man if he was starting today, 2011, and this is what the designers thought he should look like. I have to believe that they made the aesthetic choices because of the way the suit will look in action, not in still photographs taken from spy cameras.
Whiskey Tango
01-22-2011, 05:33 PM
No I did not, it is from a mini series not from relevant continuity. It's essentially an elseworld tale, nothing more.
You've just described this movie. Raimi's series too. Congratulations!
Gee, I REALLY want Raimi back by now!
Stop living in the past.
rahan
01-22-2011, 05:35 PM
There are points where being faithful is necessary and there are times when it isn't.
Captain America is a great example...a faithful costume straight from the original comics would have been so goofy and LMFAO worthy.
Oh, I would completely agree with you... if not for the tiny little detail that Spidey's costume has been translated faithfully before, looking... le gasp... not goofy but actually very cool. Raimi that devil, how on earth did he manage that...
TheWallCrawler
01-22-2011, 05:35 PM
The new suit still sucks and not because it isn't the Raimi suit. It sucks because it isn't faithful to the comics. You know what would make that suit not suck? The following:
1.) Get rid of the red stripes on the legs.
2.) add the red belt stripe that has been there for oh, around 40 years.
3.) get rid of the stupid blue parts of the gloves and silver parts of his boots.
There, three easy steps that would make the new suit design good.
The silver parts on his boots are not part of the design or what will see in the movie, they're there so it's easier for the stuntman to run and so he wouldn't hurt his feet
I have seen that thing done a lot
Stelze
01-22-2011, 05:35 PM
It's really not a matter of "faithfulness." It's a matter of catering to your medium. Comic books and movies are different beasts. Spider-Man's suit (in the comics) is his suit out of tradition. It's been that way, more or less, for 40 years. But the movie is something new. It's not beholden to continuity or respect (for lack of a better word) to its predecessors. This is Spider-Man if he was starting today, 2011, and this is what the designers thought he should look like. I have to believe that they made the aesthetic choices because of the way the suit will look in action, not in still photographs taken from spy cameras.
Right. But you won't get heard with that.
Eddie Brock
01-22-2011, 05:35 PM
You've just described this movie. Raimi's series too. Congratulations!
Thank you. :up:
Eddie Brock
01-22-2011, 05:36 PM
Right. But you won't get heard with that.
I know I won't. But I can console myself with the fact that I said it - that maybe I even changed one mind just a little bit.
Stelze
01-22-2011, 05:39 PM
I know I won't. But I can console myself with the fact that I said it - that maybe I even changed one mind just a little bit.
See? You still got faith in the capacity of logic thinking of the human brain.
That's a good thing! :P
rahan
01-22-2011, 05:40 PM
You've just described this movie. Raimi's series too. Congratulations!
To this I say I don't like Elseworlds, at least not when it comes to the look of the character.
Stop living in the past.
If that new costume is an indicator of the future then heck, get me a Tardis now!
Whiskey Tango
01-22-2011, 05:41 PM
Thank you. :up:
I've lost track of how many times I've mentioned that the movies are not sweet, sweet 616 continuity, no matter how much the fanboys want them to be.
Eddie Brock
01-22-2011, 05:42 PM
I've lost track of how many times I've mentioned that the movies are not sweet, sweet 616 continuity, no matter how much the fanboys want them to be.
Nor should they be. If people want the same 616 stories they grew up reading, then I say to them...go read those stories. The movies are something new, something different. They're supposed to be a blending of everything that's come before them.
Stelze
01-22-2011, 05:45 PM
If that new standard of discussion is an indicator of the future then heck, get me a Tardis now!
I corrected that one for you!
Archangel08
01-22-2011, 05:46 PM
The silver parts on his boots are not part of the design or what will see in the movie, they're there so it's easier for the stuntman to run and so he wouldn't hurt his feet
I have seen that thing done a lot
are they really? i don't mean this in a "i call BS!" tone of voice, i'm asking out of real curiousity...because i don't see how silver bands on the boots would make it more comfortable...while i would understand how wearing different TYPES of shoes than the actual movie costume could make it easier, something as superficial as silver bands on the outside is odd to me, especially when that could be easily covered up with a dash of red paint right now (less post production work later, right)...i could be wrong, i don't work in the industry, i'm just a fat ass behind my computer haha, this is just what's going through my mind...if someone knows what's up, like they work with stuntmen or something, then please enlighten us, cuz i'm just throwing out ideas right now haha
rahan
01-22-2011, 05:46 PM
It's really not a matter of "faithfulness." It's a matter of catering to your medium. Comic books and movies are different beasts. Spider-Man's suit (in the comics) is his suit out of tradition. It's been that way, more or less, for 40 years. But the movie is something new. It's not beholden to continuity or respect (for lack of a better word) to its predecessors. This is Spider-Man if he was starting today, 2011, and this is what the designers thought he should look like. I have to believe that they made the aesthetic choices because of the way the suit will look in action, not in still photographs taken from spy cameras.
Oh yes, I forgot, there hasn't been any movie about Spider-Man at all. No, this is the first Spider-man movie ever, right? Of course the comic costume can't work on the big screen. It has never been done sucessfully before, right?
What is there about the comic suit design, that does not translate to film? I'd really like to know.
Gianakin_
01-22-2011, 05:48 PM
I've lost track of how many times I've mentioned that the movies are not sweet, sweet 616 continuity, no matter how much the fanboys want them to be.
Not that 616 is all that great for the past, oh, 20 years.
Majik1387
01-22-2011, 05:49 PM
No I did not, it is from a mini series not from relevant continuity. It's essentially an elseworld tale, nothing more. If the suit in those pics should be considered relevant, Peter could wear that Indian Spider-Man suit or the Manga Spider-Man suit.
As someone else has said, so are both movie universes, and all comic movies for that matter.
Heh, and you know what? That makes the suit very faithful to the comics right now!
Exactly. :oldrazz:
It's really not a matter of "faithfulness." It's a matter of catering to your medium. Comic books and movies are different beasts. Spider-Man's suit (in the comics) is his suit out of tradition. It's been that way, more or less, for 40 years. But the movie is something new. It's not beholden to continuity or respect (for lack of a better word) to its predecessors. This is Spider-Man if he was starting today, 2011, and this is what the designers thought he should look like. I have to believe that they made the aesthetic choices because of the way the suit will look in action, not in still photographs taken from spy cameras.
You've just described this movie. Raimi's series too. Congratulations!
Stop living in the past.
Agreed.
I've lost track of how many times I've mentioned that the movies are not sweet, sweet 616 continuity, no matter how much the fanboys want them to be.
I prefer most of the adaptation be from 616, but I am open to adding in positive things from other universes(Nightcrawler and Scarlet Witch as lovers :hrt:) First read it in eXiles, it's possible it's been done before then, but it became popular to the X-fanbase, which is why it's been used in the newer Wolverine and the X-Men cartoon.
But back to Spidey. :oldrazz:
Nor should they be. If people want the same 616 stories they grew up reading, then I say to them...go read those stories. The movies are something new, something different. They're supposed to be a blending of everything that's come before them.
Again, agreed. Take the best from the comics, and add something new to the process.
Eddie Brock
01-22-2011, 05:49 PM
Oh yes, I forgot, there hasn't been any movie about Spider-Man at all. No, this is the first Spider-man movie ever, right? Of course the comic costume can't work on the big screen. It has never been done sucessfully before, right?
What is there about the comic suit design, that does not translate to film? I'd really like to know.
Where did I say the comic suit can't work? I said they have no obligation to use the comic suit. This is a brand new vision of Spider-Man, whether you're ready to accept it or not.
Stelze
01-22-2011, 05:51 PM
Oh yes, I forgot, there hasn't been any movie about Spider-Man at all. No, this is the first Spider-man movie ever, right? Of course the comic costume can't work on the big screen. It has never been done sucessfully before, right?
What is there about the comic suit design, that does not translate to film? I'd really like to know.
Well that's not even the point. the point is that Raimi did it spot on. I just have to give him that.
But I'll bet both of my nuts that if Webb didn't change the suit, and dude these are such minor changes, every hardcore fanboy, you included, would have complained about Webb ripping Raimi off.
rahan
01-22-2011, 05:52 PM
I've lost track of how many times I've mentioned that the movies are not sweet, sweet 616 continuity, no matter how much the fanboys want them to be.
No, they don't have to be 616 but they should LOOK like it... costume wise at least.
Funny thing is, I don't mind changes, to characters or plot lines, I LIKE the organics, makes hell of a lot more sense to me than the mechanics but when it comes to costumes I'm a traditionalist, even more so, when I have seen a costume translated perfectly onto screen before.
Eddie Brock
01-22-2011, 05:52 PM
Well that's not even the point. the point is that Raimi did it spot on. I just have to give him that.
But I'll bet both of my nuts that if Webb didn't change the suit, and dude these are such minor changes, every hardcore fanboy, you included, would have complained about Webb ripping Raimi off.
Not to mention it would have confused the Hell out of the general audience who is probably unsure of whether this is a reboot or a continuation. (And it certainly doesn't help that people (read: the media) still call it "Spider-Man 4.")
Majik1387
01-22-2011, 05:54 PM
People still think the Nolan Batman movies are a continuation to the Burton/Schumacher movies; it's gonna happen.
Whiskey Tango
01-22-2011, 05:54 PM
Where did I say the comic suit can't work? I said they have no obligation to use the comic suit. This is a brand new vision of Spider-Man, whether you're ready to accept it or not.
YES.
But I'll bet both of my nuts that if Webb didn't change the suit, and dude these are such minor changes, every hardcore fanboy, you included, would have complained about Webb ripping Raimi off.
Oh you know they totally would have. "wtf why are they using the same suit?!?" :cmad:
sigh.
rahan
01-22-2011, 05:56 PM
Where did I say the comic suit can't work? I said they have no obligation to use the comic suit. This is a brand new vision of Spider-Man, whether you're ready to accept it or not.
Of course it is and I call that vision visually impaired. I do NOT like it. Like I said, I hate the suit and that's that.
Eddie Brock
01-22-2011, 05:56 PM
People still think the Nolan Batman movies are a continuation to the Burton/Schumacher movies; it's gonna happen.
Alas, I know. Nothing to really be done about it, though. :csad: However, a new younger cast and a new suit are good steps in the right direction.
Spideyfan93
01-22-2011, 05:57 PM
So true about the complaints if the costume was very similar to Raimi's. That's why you just ignore them.
Eddie Brock
01-22-2011, 05:57 PM
Of course it is and I call that vision visually impaired. I do NOT like it. Like I said, I hate the suit and that's that.
Fair enough. I'm just trying to reason why the suit isn't the same red-and-blues from the comics. I'm not telling anyone they have to accept that reasoning.
eledoremassis02
01-22-2011, 05:58 PM
It's really not a matter of "faithfulness." It's a matter of catering to your medium. Comic books and movies are different beasts. Spider-Man's suit (in the comics) is his suit out of tradition. It's been that way, more or less, for 40 years. But the movie is something new. It's not beholden to continuity or respect (for lack of a better word) to its predecessors. This is Spider-Man if he was starting today, 2011, and this is what the designers thought he should look like. I have to believe that they made the aesthetic choices because of the way the suit will look in action, not in still photographs taken from spy cameras.
I agree with you, but unfortunately if you think the suit is missing something and you don't like it than your labeled a fan boy...but if you like it and think it's perfect than your a Rami hater..
Stelze
01-22-2011, 05:59 PM
Out of curiousity:
Were there complaints about Hulk not being green enough in the latest movie? xD
I sure remember something like that about piccolo from the Dragonball movie.
Ok I admit it... that really was an indicator about the "suckiness" of that movie. :woot:
eledoremassis02
01-22-2011, 06:00 PM
Out of curiousity:
I sure remember something like that about piccolo from the Dragonball movie.
Ok I admit it... that really was an indicator about the "suckiness" of that movie. :woot:
we shall not mention that film! Thats a rarity lol :woot:
Eddie Brock
01-22-2011, 06:01 PM
I agree with you, but unfortunately if you think the suit is missing something and you don't like it than your labeled a fan boy...but if you like it and think it's perfect than your a Rami hater..
Yeah, the generalizations can get out of hand. Let's face it: everyone here has, by joining this site, embraced their "fanboyhood." And as for the Raimi debate, it's perfectly possible for people to love Raimi's suit and still appreciate the new one (read: me).
The design looks like a complete mess.
The only thing I prefer to this one over the Raimi suit is the black webbing. Dammit...
rahan
01-22-2011, 06:03 PM
Well that's not even the point. the point is that Raimi did it spot on. I just have to give him that.
But I'll bet both of my nuts that if Webb didn't change the suit, and dude these are such minor changes, every hardcore fanboy, you included, would have complained about Webb ripping Raimi off.
They are not minor. Ramis changes were minor (raised webbing, texture back Spider, front Spider and such.)
Adding stupid racing stripes and blue lines, leaving out parts like the belt, those a major changes because the change the whole basic design.
I would have praised the new suit to high heavens if they would have stayed true to the comic design. I even think there are things Webb did better than Raimi. The texture for example the black indented webbing, the lenses. If he would have done those changes to a basic comic template I would have said, his suit is even better than Ramis But with his unecessairy and ugly changes to the basic template, sorry, His suit is inferior in terms of faithfulness.
ScarletSpider8i
01-22-2011, 06:04 PM
I own a suit that is printed that looks better than what you make it out to be.http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs482.ash1/26376_114261321920961_100000112810230_273111_97461 6_n.jpg
Spideyfan93
01-22-2011, 06:07 PM
Nice bulge.
...love the mask though.
socool
01-22-2011, 06:07 PM
I own a suit that is printed that looks better than what you make it out to be.http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs482.ash1/26376_114261321920961_100000112810230_273111_97461 6_n.jpg
This is no offense to you, but if that makes it on screen, I will cry.
(make all the jokes you want about me liking the new one)
ScarletSpider8i
01-22-2011, 06:08 PM
Yeah, but really the comics costume was made of paper, inks and artist's hands, not lycra and web prints, they have to make the costume a bit more interesting looking onscreen than lycra and black prints.
That's actually quite a funny thought, if you were to be transported over to the real Marvel universe, and the real spider-man swung up to you, and his costume looked worse than some guy at a conventions.
'Hi, I'm your friendly neighbourhood Spider-man.'
'Dude..what is the deal with all the rips on your costume, and holy moses, your feet smell, you need to wear some proper shoes...'
'Yeah, but I have to adhere to the walls and ceilings, if I wore real shoes, i wouldn't be able to do that...'
'..I don't care dude, your feet smell, how many puddles have you leapt through today? and no offence, but you generally stink of BO all over...'
'I've been fighting bank robbers, it was raining...'
'Dude, lose the tights, wear a small raincoat and waterproof trousers, make yourself some waterproof socks that you can stick through, you smell like the amazing sheepdogman.'
'.....'
'And get some snappy ****ing quips! You should have put me in my place by now! Where are the quips?!'
That pic was for you
rahan
01-22-2011, 06:10 PM
Fair enough. I'm just trying to reason why the suit isn't the same red-and-blues from the comics. I'm not telling anyone they have to accept that reasoning.
The problem is that this line of reasoning is faulty (not on your part but on part of the designer) because the comic design has been proven to work. There is no reason to change it because it has been translated successfully onto the screen before. Those arguments you mentioned ring hollow when one keeps that in mind.
Of course there are costumes that do not work as a direct translation because the basic design is... well not that good to begin with but that isn't the case with Spidey's suit. Therefore there is no need to change the design when one translates it from comic to the big screen.
ScarletSpider8i
01-22-2011, 06:10 PM
This is no offense to you, but if that makes it on screen, I will cry.
(make all the jokes you want about me liking the new one)
You would rather have a power ranger looking spidey. Knock yourself out
ScarletSpider8i
01-22-2011, 06:11 PM
Nice bulge.
...love the mask though.
It's a cup man. Relax
Doctor Jones
01-22-2011, 06:12 PM
edit.
Spideyfan93
01-22-2011, 06:12 PM
I was joking around lol and nice tip of information.
ScarletSpider8i
01-22-2011, 06:13 PM
I don't care if it's light blue dark blue light red dark red, etc as long as the suit is costume that has been spider-mans since his creation
Majik1387
01-22-2011, 06:16 PM
You would rather have a power ranger looking spidey. Knock yourself out
As much hate as Power Rangers get, both American and Japanese versions are still going on to this day. :o
They're doing something right.
ScarletSpider8i
01-22-2011, 06:20 PM
This info is not just for you, it's for everyone: those are NOT webshooters!!! They are magnets for the stunt (jumping to a moving car). In the stunt he gets a grip on the car and flips on to it. The magnets help to keep his grip.
This is why you never should judge spy cam pics or any pics that are not official: you can never now for sure what all the stuff is for!
When they're going to release some official behind the scenes pics get released you Mark Webb suit haters are gonna take back every negative thing you ever said about the suit. I bet that this scene won't even be featured in the official pics because they wouldn't show anything that sucks
That's why I have fate on the suit. The way you talk about it it's almost like you want the suit to fail
http://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/46192/hr_Untitled_Spider-Man_Film_8.jpg
You can clearly see on the actual release pic of garfield those circle discs are still there. Nuff said!
rahan
01-22-2011, 06:21 PM
As much hate as Power Rangers get, both American and Japanese versions are still going on to this day. :o
They're doing something right.
Just out of curiosity, where is the Webb suit design superior to the comic suit design? Not in terms of cosmetics but in actualy element design? What is so superior, design-wise to red stripes on the legs, the missing belt and blue lines on the gloves?
ScarletSpider8i
01-22-2011, 06:21 PM
As much hate as Power Rangers get, both American and Japanese versions are still going on to this day. :o
They're doing something right.
The power rangers have an age group of 3-8
Whiskey Tango
01-22-2011, 06:24 PM
I swear you eat paint chips or something
Nice, personal attacks after 10 posts. You're sure to have a long and storied posting career.
Lunar_Wolf
01-22-2011, 06:27 PM
I'm assuming you missed this
http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/spiderman-reboot-costumes-wardrobe-spidersuit.jpg-43486d1295714198
Hmmm, that's interesting. I'm still leaning to what we've seen is the final suit, but if it's the wrestling suit, it makes sense as to why Spider-Man is running the streets with no belt for back up webbing and why Peter is walking with no mask on.
I admit I think the costume looks really nice in the official picture. I'm sure I'll like it much more in the film. The mesh type texture of the costume looks crazy in a really cool way.
jasontodd
01-22-2011, 06:30 PM
I don't care if it's light blue dark blue light red dark red, etc as long as the suit is costume that has been spider-mans since his creation
Yes because Spider-Man has never worn any variations of his costume
http://superherouniverse.com/art/data/500/SpiderMan.PNG
http://nerdismcomics.com/VisualHistoryEditorials/Spider-manVisualHistory/CostumeSpiderBag.gif
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/31566/716042-spider_cu_super.jpg
But no I'm thinking we might actually be getting more than 1 costume maybe not though:woot:
Majik1387
01-22-2011, 06:32 PM
Just out of curiosity, where is the Webb suit design superior to the comic suit design?
Colors, seams, fit, streamlines, black webs, etc
Not in terms of cosmetics but in actualy element design? What is so superior, design-wise to red stripes on the legs, the missing belt and blue lines on the gloves?
I don't mind the leg lines as I've actually drawn Spidey before with similar leg lines, so it doesn't bother me.
I still think he lost his belt or he hasn't got one yet at the time of this scene being filmed. If it turns out there is no belt, then yes, that is a design aspect I'm not a fan of, but it doesn't make the costume horrible to me.
For the blue lines in his gloves, I don't see how it's such a negative thing for fans other than it not being 100% like the comic version. I personally like that it doesn't just look like flat red things on his arms and give it more of a structure. For all we know he had to modify the gloves for the web shooters or something.
Now before we go one, I didn't abhor the Raimi suit just because I like the new one better. I just have less problems with this one than I did with Raimi's. Maybe because I'm one of those fans that doesn't mind some modernization in their comic adaptations, especially considering if the character has had many different costumes over the years, but all with a similarity to recognize him as the same hero.
I have the same feeling with this costume; Is it different from what I'm used to? Yes, but it's still clearly Spidey and I actually prefer a new costume which hasn't happened for a while.
I swear you eat paint chips or something
:whatever:
ScarletSpider8i
01-22-2011, 06:32 PM
Nice, personal attacks after 10 posts. You're sure to have a long and storied posting career.
Wow. I'm hurt. Really. Ouch............wow still stings. How can I live with that burn now? :whatever:
ScarletSpider8i
01-22-2011, 06:34 PM
Yes because Spider-Man has never worn any variations of his costume
http://superherouniverse.com/art/data/500/SpiderMan.PNG
http://nerdismcomics.com/VisualHistoryEditorials/Spider-manVisualHistory/CostumeSpiderBag.gif
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/31566/716042-spider_cu_super.jpg
But no I'm thinking we might actually be getting more than 1 costume maybe not though:woot:
What suit does it always go back 2? Thank you.
Whiskey Tango
01-22-2011, 06:38 PM
Wow. I'm hurt. Really. Ouch............wow still stings. How can I live with that burn now? :whatever:
Wasn't an burn, just a reminder that you should drop the attitude before you get ****canned. But you're probably a previous bannee anyway so whatev.
Stelze
01-22-2011, 06:38 PM
nevermind...
Eddie Brock
01-22-2011, 06:49 PM
The problem is that this line of reasoning is faulty (not on your part but on part of the designer) because the comic design has been proven to work. There is no reason to change it because it has been translated successfully onto the screen before. Those arguments you mentioned ring hollow when one keeps that in mind.
Of course there are costumes that do not work as a direct translation because the basic design is... well not that good to begin with but that isn't the case with Spidey's suit. Therefore there is no need to change the design when one translates it from comic to the big screen.
Again, you're presupposing that they're just using the 616 costume as a template. That is not the case. They are making something original with the 616 costume as an influence.
shogunrua
01-22-2011, 06:57 PM
That suit gets the job done, even with the changes, you still feel it's Spider-Man. I agree with the fact that the Raimi films established that they could used the spot on suit from the comics and it could work on screen. What I mean is, I don't see the point of the changes rather than a pure estethic one, but I really don't mind them.
Now, about that new filming photo with the mask on, I still see Spidey so I don't mind. About the "shoes" part of that suit, I think (as a lot of people on the net seem to think) that it's a stunt suit, really if that suit has to be practical for running, you don't want to just wearing spandex and run almost bare footed. It reminds me of an a bonus on the SP3 DVD where they explained they had different Venom suits, I guess for different stunts, and it also reminds me of some Captain America on set photos where Chris Evans was wearing "fake feet" I guess for the purpose of looking like he's running bare foot, same stuff.
rahan
01-22-2011, 07:04 PM
Colors, seams, fit, streamlines, black webs, etc.
how is the color superoir to the comic book design? It's the same red and blue. Black webs? The comic book design has black webs too. Could it be that you're confusing the comic book design with the Raimi suit?
I don't mind the leg lines as I've actually drawn Spidey before with similar leg lines, so it doesn't bother me.
I still think he lost his belt or he hasn't got one yet at the time of this scene being filmed. If it turns out there is no belt, then yes, that is a design aspect I'm not a fan of, but it doesn't make the costume horrible to me.
It just destroys pretty much the balance of the whole design, creating very weird shapes on the torso and legs.
For the blue lines in his gloves, I don't see how it's such a negative thing for fans other than it not being 100% like the comic version. I personally like that it doesn't just look like flat red things on his arms and give it more of a structure. For all we know he had to modify the gloves for the web shooters or something.
Yet somehow it wasn't necessairy to add these in the previous franchise and that suit still looked visually interesting and not flat. They are busy, overwrought and simply unbalance the suit further.
Now before we go one, I didn't abhor the Raimi suit just because I like the new one better. I just have less problems with this one than I did with Raimi's. Maybe because I'm one of those fans that doesn't mind some modernization in their comic adaptations, especially considering if the character has had many different costumes over the years, but all with a similarity to recognize him as the same hero.
Raimi's costume has no importance to the discussion, save that it was a far more faithful incarnation than the Webb suit. Whatever Raimi added to make his suit pop visually was cosmetical at best. He did not change the basic design as Webb had and he managed to modernize the suit without messing with said design. Oh except for the back Spider, that was the only truly changed element of Raimis suit.
I have the same feeling with this costume; Is it different from what I'm used to? Yes, but it's still clearly Spidey and I actually prefer a new costume which hasn't happened for a while.
It is as clearly Spidey as the Reilly suit is, yet that suit would have been equally as unfaithful if they would have used it as a design template, Their changes are simply not necessairy since Webb could have added all his cosmetic enhancements of the suit to a basic comic template. All the things you consider superior to the comic design, colors, seams, fit, streamlines, black webs. These are not changes to the basic comic design. But red stripes where there weren't any before and blue stripes and such, those are changes to the basic design, changes that shouldn't have been made and ruin the suit, imho.
rahan
01-22-2011, 07:07 PM
Again, you're presupposing that they're just using the 616 costume as a template. That is not the case. They are making something original with the 616 costume as an influence.
And that simply is not necessairy because the 616 suit can perfectly well be translated. The new suit is nothing more than ego stroking of a designer who wants to put his stamp onto the franchise, nothing more, nothing less. And sorry, if they come up with their own design just to be "new and different", I consider their product inferior, I hate change for changes sake.
catlas
01-22-2011, 07:12 PM
I'm assuming you missed this
http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/spiderman-reboot-costumes-wardrobe-spidersuit.jpg-43486d1295714198
what issue is this from??
Ultimate Doom
01-22-2011, 07:14 PM
what issue is this from??
its from a five issue series called Spider-Man: With Great Power
Majik1387
01-22-2011, 07:16 PM
how is the color superoir to the comic book design? It's the same red and blue. Black webs? The comic book design has black webs too. Could it be that you're confusing the comic book design witht he Raimi suit?
Sorry, yes, I was confusing what you said with what I meant.
In regards to how it's superior to the comic design, I never said it was. But it also is not vastly inferior to me as it is to some here.
It just destroys pretty much the balance of the whole design, creating very weird shapes on the torso and legs.
Eh, agree to disagree is all I can say.
Yet somehow it wasn't necessairy to add these in the previous franchise and that suit still looked visually interesting and not flat. They are busy, overwrought and simply unbalance the suit further.
The old Raimi suit had a good red, but it was flat, or at least, not as contoured as they did with the ugly, dark, subdued blue of the costume.
Raimi's costume has no importance to the discussion, save that it was a far more faithful incarnation than the Webb suit. Whatever Raimi added to make his suit pop visually was cosmetical at best. He did not change the basic design as Webb had and he managed to modernize the suit without messing with said design. Oh except for the back Spider, that was the only trule changed element of Raimis suit.
And yet, people still had complaints here about it when it was coming out. Even if you give fanboys as 100% faithful costumes as you can, they're not gonna like it.
It is as clearly Spidey as the Reilly suit is, yet that suit would have been equally as unfaithful if they would have used it as a design template, Their changes are simply not necessairy since Webb could have added all his cosmetic enhancements of the suit to a basic comic template.
No offense, but you don't know what was necessary for the production team.
All the things you consider superior to the comic design, colors, seams, fit, streamlines, black webs. These are not changes to the basic comic design. But red stripes where there weren't any before and blue stripes and such, those are changes to the basic design, changes that shouldn't have been made and ruin the suit, imho.
And again, I never said it was superior, I just like it just the same if not better. Never said it was better than any costume.
And there have been red stripes there before as someone has provided a pic from the comic in here, and there has been blue stripes as well. Some people here didn't like them and that's fine, but they need to get over it as it's already been applied to the new costume.
Whiskey Tango
01-22-2011, 07:17 PM
The new suit is nothing more than ego stroking of a designer who wants to put his stamp onto the franchise, nothing more, nothing less.
So you know these people personally, do you?
catlas
01-22-2011, 07:17 PM
well.... maybe the theory of not only there being an actual origin shown but one that shows an evolution of the character and eventual 616 costume isn't so far off after all....
Majik1387
01-22-2011, 07:19 PM
The new suit is nothing more than ego stroking of a designer who wants to put his stamp onto the franchise, nothing more, nothing less.
So just like any comic artist who may have been hired for a new take on a Spider-Man comic. How dare s/he want to make their own spin on a costume recognizable but also their own.:whatever:
Ultimate Doom
01-22-2011, 07:20 PM
For anyone wondering about the colors on his suit, another user on a different forum brought up a great point.
The reason for the bright bright colors is because they are filming in 3D. They need a high contrast between the blue and red. You can tell from the official photo that the suit won't be that bright in the actual film. Here is a picture someone colored correct to look more like the finished film:
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6841/testspidermancolo.jpg
http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/spiderman-reboot-suit-with-mas/1169596?page=2
GammaAzazel
01-22-2011, 07:23 PM
its from a five issue series called Spider-Man: With Great Power
Well it looks like we know where the new costume came from. Lol
Hotwire
01-22-2011, 07:32 PM
The new suit still sucks and not because it isn't the Raimi suit. It sucks because it isn't faithful to the comics. You know what would make that suit not suck? The following:
1.) Get rid of the red stripes on the legs.
2.) add the red belt stripe that has been there for oh, around 40 years.
3.) get rid of the stupid blue parts of the gloves and silver parts of his boots.
There, three easy steps that would make the new suit design good.
So, basically, make it just like standard suit and don't dare make any artistic changes? Gotcha!
:whatever:
Whiskey Tango
01-22-2011, 07:37 PM
So, basically, make it just like standard suit and don't dare make any artistic changes? Gotcha!
:whatever:
No, these people want it to look the same, but have all kinds of differences.
Yeah.
spida-man
01-22-2011, 07:37 PM
Well I'd rather see a good movie with a not so faithful adaption of the suit, than a crappy movie with a spot on faithful adaption of the suit. (Spider-Man 3)
Let the flaming begin!
:doh:
when will ppl ever give it a friggin rest?
wobbly
01-22-2011, 07:37 PM
Yes because Spider-Man has never worn any variations of his costume
http://superherouniverse.com/art/data/500/SpiderMan.PNG
http://nerdismcomics.com/VisualHistoryEditorials/Spider-manVisualHistory/CostumeSpiderBag.gif
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/31566/716042-spider_cu_super.jpg
But no I'm thinking we might actually be getting more than 1 costume maybe not though:woot:
Hey, it's not even Peter Parker in at least 3 of those. And I dont think mutated, forced to wear a bag, or unwittingly transformed into Captain Universe should count either :oldrazz::cwink:
But you are right he has worn other designs in the past. They have not lasted very long though (many for just the one story). Of the alternate suits I think the black suit got the longest run. In the end they always go back to the classic.
Majik1387
01-22-2011, 07:39 PM
:doh:
when will ppl ever give it a friggin rest?
When Spider-Man 3 stops sucking horribly. :cwink:
But you are right he has worn other designs in the past. They have not lasted very long though (many for just the one story). Of the alternate suits I think the black suit got the longest run. In the end they always go back to the classic.
And who knows, maybe the movies will go through costume changes as well.
DeskLamp
01-22-2011, 07:40 PM
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4076/sman3.png
I think most of the hate for the costume is based on flawed perception, as we're seeing it out of context. Hear me out:
I know most people here hate the silver on the boots, but take another look. They look just like the sort of boots worn by professional wrestlers. And the gloves look like fighting gloves, or gloves you might see worn by an athlete. In fact, the entire design of the suit looks like the costume of a modern day pro wrestler. And that brings me to my point.
They said in the beginning that this reboot was going to be done in a darker and more realistic tone, similar to Chris Nolan's Batman films, and that's exactly what we're getting. In Batman Begins, the suit wasn't presented as a costume. It was explained in detail where it came from, what it's original purpose was, and why Bruce needed it. Marc Webb is doing the same thing for Spider-Man. This is not a "superhero costume" just for the sake of it. It's Peter's wrestling costume. He just continues to wear it when he starts fighting crime. That's how the film will justify this guy running around in colorful tights in a realistic setting. All the changes that have been made have been to make it look more like a true, contemporary pro wrestler's outfit. Even the webshooters may be presented as Spider-Man's gimmick in the beginning (aside from the wall crawling, of course), as many pro wrestlers have one.
So, try to look at it from that perspective. If you appreciated Nolan's translation of Batman, I think you'll appreciate Webb's Spider-Man, as he seems to be approaching it in very much the same way.
GammaAzazel
01-22-2011, 07:41 PM
Hey, it's not even Peter Parker in at least 3 of those. And I dont think mutated, forced to wear a bag, or unwittingly transformed into Captain Universe should count either :oldrazz::cwink:
But you are right he has worn other designs in the past. They have not lasted very long though (many for just the one story). Of the alternate suits I think the black suit got the longest run. In the end they always go back to the classic.
One thing stuck out to me....
"(Many for just the one story)."
Movies tell stories. Why can't they have another design for this? I just don't like how everyone is so sore on this, not saying you are, just saying that other get sore and its un necessary.
Spider-ManHero12
01-22-2011, 07:42 PM
Probably because it is part of the design. Just like the lack of a belt. I kind of doubt that. I mean, I could be wrong, but I've seen stuff like this happen before for the feet of the stunt suit.
Whiskey Tango
01-22-2011, 07:43 PM
it's already been suggested that this is his wrestling outfit. But you are right, those do look like they could be wrestling boots.
http://i56.tinypic.com/30b2phj.jpg
Hotwire
01-22-2011, 07:44 PM
To Rahan:
I am going to strongly suggest, for your own health, stop reading these boards. For you, seeing anything other than the suit YOU would have put in the movie, is just going to stress you out. All of that unneeded stress is just going to give you an ulcer, and you are far too young for that.
We all get the point that you think the suit sucks, you are not alone on this, as there seems to be a lot of people here that feel the same way. However, you and they are working yourselves into a frenzy over some spy shots! Just like the Batboards did before The Dark Knight, just the Spiderboards did for Spider-Man 3. So, I suggest you take it easy and quit getting yourself worked up. Nothing you post here is going to change that suit. So, why not just wait and see what it looks like in a finished trailer, then, if you still don't like it, stay home and don't watch the movie.
spida-man
01-22-2011, 07:45 PM
Nor should they be. If people want the same 616 stories they grew up reading, then I say to them...go read those stories. The movies are something new, something different. They're supposed to be a blending of everything that's come before them.
:bow:
I have waited many years for someone on the boards to make say this.
you sir, are my hero
I'm still holding out hope that we get bag head Spidey.
Hotwire
01-22-2011, 07:47 PM
I think most of the hate for the costume is based on flawed perception, as we're seeing it out of context. Hear me out:
I know most people here hate the silver on the boots, but take another look. They look just like the sort of boots worn by professional wrestlers. And the gloves look like fighting gloves, or gloves you might see worn by an athlete. In fact, the entire design of the suit looks like the costume of a modern day pro wrestler. And that brings me to my point.
They said in the beginning that this reboot was going to be done in a darker and more realistic tone, similar to Chris Nolan's Batman films, and that's exactly what we're getting. In Batman Begins, the suit wasn't presented as a costume. It was explained in detail where it came from, what it's original purpose was, and why Bruce needed it. Marc Webb is doing the same thing for Spider-Man. This is not a "superhero costume" just for the sake of it. It's Peter's wrestling costume. He just continues to wear it when he starts fighting crime. That's how the film will justify this guy running around in colorful tights in a realistic setting. All the changes that have been made have been to make it look more like a true, contemporary pro wrestler's outfit. Even the webshooters may be presented as Spider-Man's gimmick in the beginning (aside from the wall crawling, of course), as many pro wrestlers have one.
So, try to look at it from that perspective. If you appreciated Nolan's translation of Batman, I think you'll appreciate Webb's Spider-Man, as he seems to be approaching it in very much the same way.
Get out of here you! You are thinking logically! Logic has no place in the world of rapid fanboys!
:woot:
Hotwire
01-22-2011, 07:48 PM
:bow:
I have waited many years for someone on the boards to make say this.
you sir, are my hero
You need to read the rant the C. Lee posted regarding comic movies. I can't remember where he posted it, or I would link it for you.
Knight Rise
01-22-2011, 07:49 PM
I'm assuming you missed this
http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/spiderman-reboot-costumes-wardrobe-spidersuit.jpg-43486d1295714198
this makes total sense. this is the wrestling costume from "With Great Power" so if thats what we've been seeing, this will be the end result:
http://www.herorealm.com/images/Previews/MARCH_2008/smwgp3.jpg
Batcouille
01-22-2011, 07:49 PM
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4076/sman3.png
Also, on this pic, the mask is clearly a poorly made one with the collar visible...
Yep, i think that suit's not at all the new spidey one but his wrestling gig one.
At least let's hope!!!!
Majik1387
01-22-2011, 07:50 PM
I hope the lenses stay see through in the movie. Kind of like mini scrims.
bullets
01-22-2011, 07:50 PM
has anyone else noticed that the new suit looks exactly the same as his WRESTLING suit in the comics??
http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/spiderman-reboot-costumes-wardrobe-spidersuit.jpg-43486d1295714198
This changes everything lol.
Spider-ManHero12
01-22-2011, 07:50 PM
I'm still holding out hope that we get bag head Spidey. Lol.
Majik1387
01-22-2011, 07:52 PM
I'm still holding out hope that we get bag head Spidey.
Maybe at some point he'll lose his mask, and that's all that's available to use. It could be from his lunch or something.:oldrazz:
craigdbfan
01-22-2011, 07:53 PM
One things for sure!
Toy sales will go up for Sony. Not only can they sell the "traditional suit" Spidey from their previous film series but as well as Spider 2012.
Money, money, money.
Majik1387
01-22-2011, 07:54 PM
How dare a studio company want to make money. Those bastards.
craigdbfan
01-22-2011, 07:56 PM
Yeah, not the point I was making but alright. I caught the sarcasm by the way, I'm not against studios making money.
I just find the movie toy whoring business comical.
Whiskey Tango
01-22-2011, 07:57 PM
This comic scan combined with DeskLamp pointing out the (now completely obvious) similar design between Spidey's footwear and certain styles of wrestling boots has me convinced we're seeing his wrestling get-up.
Of course, wrestling gear or not, he might still wear the thing the whole movie.
http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/spiderman-reboot-costumes-wardrobe-spidersuit.jpg-43486d1295714198
louiebling$
01-22-2011, 08:04 PM
For anyone wondering about the colors on his suit, another user on a different forum brought up a great point.
There we Go :up:
I love this suit
Paste Pot Pete
01-22-2011, 08:05 PM
I don't know about that picture, but the officially released pic certainly isn't of any wrestling costume.
Must have been some match, what with the claw marks and the burns.
Majik1387
01-22-2011, 08:05 PM
I prefer the more vibrant colors over the filtered ones.
B.A. Baracus
01-22-2011, 08:06 PM
I don't know about that picture, but the officially released pic certainly isn't of any wrestling costume.
Must have been some match, what with the claw marks and the burns.
Exactly.
ScarletSpider8i
01-22-2011, 08:09 PM
Wasn't an burn, just a reminder that you should drop the attitude before you get ****canned. But you're probably a previous bannee anyway so whatev.
What attitude? I just joking him around. It's a message board. A place to have an opinion and joke around with people. Lighten up. Everyone.
wobbly
01-22-2011, 08:11 PM
And who knows, maybe the movies will go through costume changes as well.
Maybe :yay:. We will find out in due time one way or another.
One thing stuck out to me....
"(Many for just the one story)."
Movies tell stories. Why can't they have another design for this? I just don't like how everyone is so sore on this, not saying you are, just saying that other get sore and its un necessary.
Nothing wrong in using this as a stage in the suits design, something he wears before settling for a final look (the wrestling suit theory for instance). But if this, or an adaptation of it (something with the same styling sans boots) is the final suit then I would have to admit to being a bit disappointed. It's not that I'm adverse to them changing a few things from the classic design, I expect that. I'm just not too keen on changes that I personally don't think look very good (in this case the absence of the front belt and those legs stripes just don't work well for me).
How good something looks is a subjective thing in the end.
Whiskey Tango
01-22-2011, 08:11 PM
I don't know about that picture, but the officially released pic certainly isn't of any wrestling costume.
Must have been some match, what with the claw marks and the burns.
He can't fight the Lizard in his wrestling outfit?
Archangel08
01-22-2011, 08:13 PM
For anyone wondering about the colors on his suit, another user on a different forum brought up a great point.
the contrast between red and blue isn't necessary anymore, is it? nowadays, 3d isn't achieved by red and blue lenses, but by polarization/other fancy stuff, right?
Knight Rise
01-22-2011, 08:13 PM
I don't know about that picture, but the officially released pic certainly isn't of any wrestling costume.
Must have been some match, what with the claw marks and the burns.
who said they were claw marks? maybe the wrestler tore his mask off and clawed at his face, enough to tear skin (or maybe it was UB's killer). the chase may have caused him to trip and fall into some muddy puddle of some sort. take note im being serious
DeskLamp
01-22-2011, 08:14 PM
Of course, wrestling gear or not, he might still wear the thing the whole movie.
Right, that's pretty much what I'm suggesting. In all likelihood, this is the costume of the movie. I can't imagine any reason why they would have him make another one after it. I dig it.
Archangel08
01-22-2011, 08:15 PM
http://superherouniverse.com/art/data/500/SpiderMan.PNG
anybody know where the costume to the right of iron spidey came from?
Paste Pot Pete
01-22-2011, 08:16 PM
Denial ain't just a river in Africa.
Knight Rise
01-22-2011, 08:18 PM
anybody know where the costume to the right of iron spidey came from?
Earth X
louiebling$
01-22-2011, 08:20 PM
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4076/sman3.png
I think most of the hate for the costume is based on flawed perception, as we're seeing it out of context. Hear me out:
I know most people here hate the silver on the boots, but take another look. They look just like the sort of boots worn by professional wrestlers. And the gloves look like fighting gloves, or gloves you might see worn by an athlete. In fact, the entire design of the suit looks like the costume of a modern day pro wrestler. And that brings me to my point.
They said in the beginning that this reboot was going to be done in a darker and more realistic tone, similar to Chris Nolan's Batman films, and that's exactly what we're getting. In Batman Begins, the suit wasn't presented as a costume. It was explained in detail where it came from, what it's original purpose was, and why Bruce needed it. Marc Webb is doing the same thing for Spider-Man. This is not a "superhero costume" just for the sake of it. It's Peter's wrestling costume. He just continues to wear it when he starts fighting crime. That's how the film will justify this guy running around in colorful tights in a realistic setting. All the changes that have been made have been to make it look more like a true, contemporary pro wrestler's outfit. Even the webshooters may be presented as Spider-Man's gimmick in the beginning (aside from the wall crawling, of course), as many pro wrestlers have one.
So, try to look at it from that perspective. If you appreciated Nolan's translation of Batman, I think you'll appreciate Webb's Spider-Man, as he seems to be approaching it in very much the same way.
Great 1st Post :up:
Welcome to The Hype
Archangel08
01-22-2011, 08:21 PM
Earth X
ahhh right you are, thank you
Eddie Brock
01-22-2011, 08:22 PM
And that simply is not necessairy because the 616 suit can perfectly well be translated. The new suit is nothing more than ego stroking of a designer who wants to put his stamp onto the franchise, nothing more, nothing less. And sorry, if they come up with their own design just to be "new and different", I consider their product inferior, I hate change for changes sake.
This:
So just like any comic artist who may have been hired for a new take on a Spider-Man comic. How dare s/he want to make their own spin on a costume recognizable but also their own.:whatever:
Just like no two artists have drawn Spidey 100% the same. Everyone brings something different to the table, but in the end, it's all Spider-Man.
GammaAzazel
01-22-2011, 08:23 PM
Maybe :yay:. We will find out in due time one way or another.
Nothing wrong in using this as a stage in the suits design, something he wears before settling for a final look (the wrestling suit theory for instance). But if this, or an adaptation of it (something with the same styling sans boots) is the final suit then I would have to admit to being a bit disappointed. It's not that I'm adverse to them changing a few things from the classic design, I expect that. I'm just not too keen on changes that I personally don't think look very good (in this case the absence of the front belt and those legs stripes just don't work well for me).
How good something looks is a subjective thing in the end.
And I agree for the most part. I'm not too disappointed though. I mean I would be if they used this suit but made it look cheaper. I don't really want to see some cheaply made suit. Everyone keeps saying "A teenager can't make something like this" and "What about kick-ass, he used a scuba-suit" Stuff like that bugs me because its a movie about a guy with superpowers for crying out loud. Hell, in kick-ass, no one HAS powers. So what if spider-man has a well made suit. The suit might not look too good, and certain parts of it I don't, but I'm not dissecting it like everyone seems to be doing. If I took it apart and started nitpicking at every part then yeah, I might not like it. But think about it, looking at it as a whole, its decent. I'm sure no one is going to the movie to see the suit either. Hell, he might even be in so much motion more than half the time you won't notice the suit.
I would prefer a lot of motion, as well as a smart ass peter parker rather a whiny one or serious one. I get the whole being serious thing. But Peter is supposed to get cocky, you know? Its a nerd, a geek, someone getting picked, all of a sudden getting these intense powers. You're lucky his uncle got killed, otherwise he might have even became a villain. I'm looking at this movie and hoping for a real spider-man movie, rather some serious/emo guy in a "faithful" suit. Changes to the suit don't bug me. I'm rambling. I'll stop.
wobbly
01-22-2011, 08:23 PM
Yeah, not the point I was making but alright. I caught the sarcasm by the way, I'm not against studios making money.
I just find the movie toy whoring business comical.
Nature of the beast unfortunately. Ever since the first Star Wars, and the vast amount of money 20th Century Fox lost from giving Lucas all the merchandising rights, studios have been well aware of the external value of these kind of properties.
Golgo-13
01-22-2011, 08:26 PM
I like the eyes in the new pics posted by Troy_Parker.
Majik1387
01-22-2011, 08:26 PM
What attitude? I just joking him around. It's a message board. A place to have an opinion and joke around with people. Lighten up. Everyone.
Eh, since it was directed at me(which by the way I just noticed your edit to your original comment), I'll just say you kind of have to work up to using sarcasm like that, especially with so little posts mostly in a negative light.
Maybe :yay:. We will find out in due time one way or another.
Yep, that's why it's best to not be so negative over some low quality picture, and medium quality video.
Nothing wrong in using this as a stage in the suits design, something he wears before settling for a final look (the wrestling suit theory for instance). But if this, or an adaptation of it (something with the same styling sans boots) is the final suit then I would have to admit to being a bit disappointed. It's not that I'm adverse to them changing a few things from the classic design, I expect that. I'm just not too keen on changes that I personally don't think look very good (in this case the absence of the front belt and those legs stripes just don't work well for me).
Thank you for noticing where personal tastes plays in.:yay:
How good something looks is a subjective thing in the end.
Agreed.
He can't fight the Lizard in his wrestling outfit?
The Lizard isn't a wrestler so NO!:cmad:
who said they were claw marks? maybe the wrestler tore his mask off and clawed at his face, enough to tear skin (or maybe it was UB's killer). the chase may have caused him to trip and fall into some muddy puddle of some sort. take note im being serious
lol
Honestly, the only other way besides Lizard I can see the slashes in the costume happen would be from shards of glass in an explosion or something.
Right, that's pretty much what I'm suggesting. In all likelihood, this is the costume of the movie. I can't imagine any reason why they would have him make another one after it. I dig it.
Well, as seen in all the movies, when he fights a villain, his costume does take a lot of tarnishing meaning a lot of repairs; in those repairs he may upgrade and possibly change design as well.
ScarletSpider8i
01-22-2011, 08:44 PM
Eh, since it was directed at me(which by the way I just noticed your edit to your original comment), I'll just say you kind of have to work up to using sarcasm like that, especially with so little posts mostly in a negative light.
Negative light? I don't like the new spidey suit so now I'm negative? lol I made a joke toward you in 1 post. All other posts are my thoughts on Spider-man and what his image is to me. I notice you have issues with sarcasm yourself which you never "built up" toward me so if I can see it as playful taunting turn-about is fair play. :yay:
Majik1387
01-22-2011, 08:53 PM
And again, I was letting it slide since it was a small comment, but considering it's still being referred to, I felt like commenting on it.
As for negative light, yes, majority of them have just been negative; from negative comments to negative responses.
You don't like that it was most likely inspired by a mix of House of M and "japan kids tv show character." Deal with it?
You've said it doesn't look like Spider-Man when it clearly does.
You posted a picture of you in the suit and proclaimed it was better, when it's just a dull, screened Raimi suit with a worse spider symbol.
It's a simple redesign like it's been done in comics many times before for just about every comic book superhero over time. Some like it, some don't, and that's fine. I just get annoyed reading complaints that have no merit other than personal tastes.
Knight Rise
01-22-2011, 08:58 PM
And again, I was letting it slide since it was a small comment, but considering it's still being referred to, I felt like commenting on it.
As for negative light, yes, majority of them have just been negative; from negative comments to negative responses.
You don't like that it was most likely inspired by a mix of House of M and "japan kids tv show character." Deal with it?
You've said it doesn't look like Spider-Man when it clearly does.
You posted a picture of you in the suit and proclaimed it was better, when it's just a dull, screened Raimi suit with a worse spider symbol.
It's a simple redesign like it's been done in comics many times before for just about every comic book superhero over time. Some like it, some don't, and that's fine. I just get annoyed reading complaints that have no merit other than personal tastes.
uhhh no. its nearly 100% from "With Great Power..."
mickmike
01-22-2011, 08:59 PM
I think most of the hate for the costume is based on flawed perception, as we're seeing it out of context. Hear me out:
I know most people here hate the silver on the boots, but take another look. They look just like the sort of boots worn by professional wrestlers. And the gloves look like fighting gloves, or gloves you might see worn by an athlete. In fact, the entire design of the suit looks like the costume of a modern day pro wrestler. And that brings me to my point.
They said in the beginning that this reboot was going to be done in a darker and more realistic tone, similar to Chris Nolan's Batman films, and that's exactly what we're getting. In Batman Begins, the suit wasn't presented as a costume. It was explained in detail where it came from, what it's original purpose was, and why Bruce needed it. Marc Webb is doing the same thing for Spider-Man. This is not a "superhero costume" just for the sake of it. It's Peter's wrestling costume. He just continues to wear it when he starts fighting crime. That's how the film will justify this guy running around in colorful tights in a realistic setting. All the changes that have been made have been to make it look more like a true, contemporary pro wrestler's outfit. Even the webshooters may be presented as Spider-Man's gimmick in the beginning (aside from the wall crawling, of course), as many pro wrestlers have one.
So, try to look at it from that perspective. If you appreciated Nolan's translation of Batman, I think you'll appreciate Webb's Spider-Man, as he seems to be approaching it in very much the same way.
Hmm...me thinks you know a little too much ;)
craigdbfan
01-22-2011, 09:04 PM
I think most of the hate for the costume is based on flawed perception, as we're seeing it out of context. Hear me out:
I know most people here hate the silver on the boots, but take another look. They look just like the sort of boots worn by professional wrestlers. And the gloves look like fighting gloves, or gloves you might see worn by an athlete. In fact, the entire design of the suit looks like the costume of a modern day pro wrestler. And that brings me to my point.
They said in the beginning that this reboot was going to be done in a darker and more realistic tone, similar to Chris Nolan's Batman films, and that's exactly what we're getting. In Batman Begins, the suit wasn't presented as a costume. It was explained in detail where it came from, what it's original purpose was, and why Bruce needed it. Marc Webb is doing the same thing for Spider-Man. This is not a "superhero costume" just for the sake of it. It's Peter's wrestling costume. He just continues to wear it when he starts fighting crime. That's how the film will justify this guy running around in colorful tights in a realistic setting. All the changes that have been made have been to make it look more like a true, contemporary pro wrestler's outfit. Even the webshooters may be presented as Spider-Man's gimmick in the beginning (aside from the wall crawling, of course), as many pro wrestlers have one.
So, try to look at it from that perspective. If you appreciated Nolan's translation of Batman, I think you'll appreciate Webb's Spider-Man, as he seems to be approaching it in very much the same way.
Thats exactly what I believe is going on and you put it very eloquently. Very well put.
Really excited for the movie despite my feelings towards the costume. What will make or break the film isn't the costume that we're all having a blast discussing.
To me the acting, the action sequences along with how I end up liking the characters will determine on whether I like it or not.
If it turns out we've just been seeing the wrestling costume and then we see a glorified traditional red and blue I'll be incredibly grateful and would eat my words.
If the wrestling costume is used throughout the movie, well so be it. I just hope the web swinging along with the action will be amazing. If they nail that there's no way for me to not like it.
catlas
01-22-2011, 09:04 PM
I don't know about that picture, but the officially released pic certainly isn't of any wrestling costume.
Must have been some match, what with the claw marks and the burns.
You seem to have mistaken "wrestling costume" with a wrestling match. It can be the same costume he used FROM wrestling matches, - that is he simply uses what he has from his time wrestling as his hero costume and either it is kept throughout the film (and the series) as the updated version, or it is simply the first version of his costume that will eventually evolve- either by the end of the film or subsequent sequels.
Whiskey Tango
01-22-2011, 09:10 PM
You seem to have mistaken "wrestling costume" with a wrestling match. It can be the same costume he used FROM wrestling matches, - that is he simply uses what he has from his time wrestling as his hero costume and either it is kept throughout the film (and the series) as the updated version, or it is simply the first version of his costume that will eventually evolve- either by the end of the film or subsequent sequels.
That's precisely what I was driving at. Thank you. :)
craigdbfan
01-22-2011, 09:13 PM
I think everyone can agree with that. :up:
spida-man
01-22-2011, 09:27 PM
When Spider-Man 3 stops sucking horribly. :cwink:
:whatever:
Majik1387
01-22-2011, 09:33 PM
uhhh no. its nearly 100% from "With Great Power..."
Those were his words, not mine.:o
I think everyone can agree with that. :up:
Yep.:up:
Gamma Goliath
01-22-2011, 09:40 PM
I think I'm completely convinced that the suit is spideys wrestling suit, because the uncanny resemblance between the movie version and the comic version, imo there is no way that its just coincidence.
Troy_Parker
01-22-2011, 09:43 PM
who said they were claw marks? maybe the wrestler tore his mask off and clawed at his face, enough to tear skin (or maybe it was UB's killer). the chase may have caused him to trip and fall into some muddy puddle of some sort. take note im being serious
Hmm, did you notice the claw marks on his chest?
It's pretty obvious that it's the Lizard or some other super villain.
Look:
These are claw marks.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1636/sman212cmarks.jpg
Needless to say, I've brightened up the image, and circled the claw marks.
Lunar_Wolf
01-22-2011, 09:56 PM
edit.
Lunar_Wolf
01-22-2011, 09:57 PM
I think I'm completely convinced that the suit is spideys wrestling suit, because the uncanny resemblance between the movie version and the comic version, imo there is no way that its just coincidence.
One thing that's standing out too, is the shows, they are rather stunt shoes, or wrestling shoes.
Spider-X
01-22-2011, 10:33 PM
I'm assuming you missed this
http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/spiderman-reboot-costumes-wardrobe-spidersuit.jpg-43486d1295714198
Seriously...this just blew my mind. This combined with DeskLamp's post...makes so much sense. and how similar the movie costume looks to that one up there...holy hell.
The costume doesn't look like something a teenager could make...because he didn't make it. It's his wrestling costume. craziness. I actually really like this angle.
I would be so stoked if that was the case, and that later we get a more true to the comic costume. Even though I think the new costume has some cool stuff going for it, for me you just can't beat the original with the big Mark Bagley eyes.
Sony23
01-22-2011, 10:33 PM
Oh, I see. So only you can post opinions. Forgive me. I was unclear on that.
Yes, only I can post opinions. That's exactly what I was saying. :whatever:
Apparently you have difficulty reading and comprehending them. Which is a shame too, because I happen to agree with some of yours, I'm just skeptical about where this film is going. I personally think they should've gone with Raimi and/or Spider-Man 4 instead of a reboot.
Lando81
01-22-2011, 10:36 PM
Hmm, did you notice the claw marks on his chest?
It's pretty obvious that it's the Lizard or some other super villain.
Look:
These are claw marks.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1636/sman212cmarks.jpg
Needless to say, I've brightened up the image, and circled the claw marks.
You missed Venom in the claw marks.
Gamma Goliath
01-22-2011, 10:42 PM
Seriously...this just blew my mind. This combined with DeskLamp's post...makes so much sense. and how similar the movie costume looks to that one up there...holy hell.
The costume doesn't look like something a teenager could make...because he didn't make it. It's his wrestling costume. craziness. I actually really like this angle.
I would be so stoked if that was the case, and that later we get a more true to the comic costume. Even though I think the new costume has some cool stuff going for it, for me you just can't beat the original with the big Mark Bagley eyes.
^this is exactly what I was thinking.
Gamma Goliath
01-22-2011, 10:43 PM
Seriously...this just blew my mind. This combined with DeskLamp's post...makes so much sense. and how similar the movie costume looks to that one up there...holy hell.
The costume doesn't look like something a teenager could make...because he didn't make it. It's his wrestling costume. craziness. I actually really like this angle.
I would be so stoked if that was the case, and that later we get a more true to the comic costume. Even though I think the new costume has some cool stuff going for it, for me you just can't beat the original with the big Mark Bagley eyes.
^this is exactly what I was thinking.
Mr. Earle
01-22-2011, 10:48 PM
So overdesigned... And without the belt he looks kind of naked as if the suit wasnt form fitting enough.
webhead731
01-22-2011, 11:52 PM
You missed Venom in the claw marks.
Both of you are stupid. It's the Symbiote. :cmad:
Majik1387
01-23-2011, 12:12 AM
I took my shot at fixing where the tears are and added where I feel the belt is supposed to be.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/redonespidey.jpg
I think it is the wrestling suit now. Would they really pick this suit to represent 3 more SM movies? Think about it. The similarities are too close.
Christopher Nolan
01-23-2011, 02:10 AM
why taking so much effort for a wrestling suit? this will be the suit...
aloumvrios
01-23-2011, 02:28 AM
yes, this will be the suit. The wrestling suit, which will be modified in the process( or not, it depends if its gonna be an origin movie).
However, now that i've seen the screencaps from the "With great power" miniseries, i can tell you that i've started to look at the suit differently...
I mean... the guy (webb) at least tried to do sth the comicbook fans would appeciate, and that's to be faithfull to the comics. And he will probably provide us with a decent explanation about the origins of the costume (unlike raimi's version)..
Anyway, let's hope that it will be a god movie, with no cry-baby peter and A LOT more jokes (it's spidey, duh)
TheWallCrawler
01-23-2011, 02:33 AM
why taking so much effort for a wrestling suit? this will be the suit...
Yes, this will be the suit. But the one from the spy cam pics? It looks really different from this even thou it's still the same design. I mean, it doesn't even have webs!
I think that he will slightly improve his wrestling suit instead of making a new one! And I also think that he will make an entirely new mask in the process :cwink:
Gamma Ray
01-23-2011, 02:40 AM
http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/spider-man-575.jpg
LMAO! What?!?!?!?!
Spider-X
01-23-2011, 02:44 AM
I love all the people who say "no dude...it's the suit!" as if they helped write the script or have been to the future and seen the film.
I hate to break it to you...but none of us really actually know. It's all speculation from here. There's been no official release saying this is THE suit through out the entire movie. There's been no official release saying this is the wrestling suit. Claiming you know won't make you seem cool if you actually turn out to be right, and if you end up being wrong you'll look foolish...though actually you already look foolish claiming to know what none of us really do.
Also, it may be the only suit we get in this movie...but that doesn't mean it's still not his wrestling suit and that we won't be getting a suit that's closer to spidey's classic digs later on.
Mace Bloodstone
01-23-2011, 03:14 AM
Yes, this will be the suit. But the one from the spy cam pics? It looks really different from this even thou it's still the same design. I mean, it doesn't even have webs!
I think that he will slightly improve his wrestling suit instead of making a new one! And I also think that he will make an entirely new mask in the process :cwink:
Sounds reasonable.
Spider-Aziz
01-23-2011, 03:18 AM
Pointing at the wrestling costume from the "With Great Power" mini, I hope we see the right costume later in the movie, and then I'm going to believe there would be a costume defeating the one worn by Maguire
Gianakin_
01-23-2011, 03:54 AM
Yes, this will be the suit. But the one from the spy cam pics? It looks really different from this even thou it's still the same design. I mean, it doesn't even have webs!
I think that he will slightly improve his wrestling suit instead of making a new one! And I also think that he will make an entirely new mask in the process :cwink:
It does have webs, they're just not painted black. I'm guessing that's because it's the stunt suit.
Even if that design is the final one for the movie, the fact that it's drawn from the particular origin story from the comics (where it's the wrestling suit) makes me think that his suit will evolve in the 2nd movie, provided there is one.
roach
01-23-2011, 04:27 AM
i dunno...for those claiming this is just the wrestling suit...the web spinners being part of the costume leads me to believe this is the main costume
Kirmit
01-23-2011, 04:45 AM
I think it'll be cool if the suit evolves through the whole movie with Pete making little changes here and there then we get the classic costume near the end of the movie.
I love all the people who say "no dude...it's the suit!" as if they helped write the script or have been to the future and seen the film.
I hate to break it to you...but none of us really actually know. It's all speculation from here. There's been no official release saying this is THE suit through out the entire movie. There's been no official release saying this is the wrestling suit. Claiming you know won't make you seem cool if you actually turn out to be right, and if you end up being wrong you'll look foolish...though actually you already look foolish claiming to know what none of us really do.
Also, it may be the only suit we get in this movie...but that doesn't mean it's still not his wrestling suit and that we won't be getting a suit that's closer to spidey's classic digs later on.
:applaud
Batspider77
01-23-2011, 05:10 AM
i dunno...for those claiming this is just the wrestling suit...the web spinners being part of the costume leads me to believe this is the main costume
Agreed....i donīt see a need for him to include the Webshooters in a Wrestlingsuit.
It's the typical response to negativity. "Don't worry, they'll switch it for something better later in the film"
spider-neil
01-23-2011, 05:37 AM
why taking so much effort for a wrestling suit? this will be the suit...
Absolutely. Love it or hate it, this is the finished final suit. They may change the suit in a sequel, though.
TerryMcGinnis
01-23-2011, 05:43 AM
http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/spider-man-575.jpg
LMAO! What?!?!?!?!
It looks kinda cheapish in this lighting, but it's supposed to be that way, given Pete's budget and all that.
The stuntman has a bubble butt though and it seems to me as if his head is sticking too far out in the back, almost like a cycling helmet.
Golgo-13
01-23-2011, 07:10 AM
http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/spider-man-575.jpg
LMAO! What?!?!?!?!
Despite it not being what i had envisioned, i like the costume. Spider-Man is sopposed to be this lanky, non-muscalar body type hero; just listen to Stan Lee's many interviews about his creation. We aren't seeing the costume under the correct lighting. It'll will look better on screen.
And yes, i agree; all those who think that this is the wrestling costume, and that the suit will change throughout the movie, are in denial. We've been through this time, and time again ppl. Haven't we learned already that what we see is what we're going to get?:huh:
Smegger56
01-23-2011, 07:17 AM
Would I like a more RAIMI style faithful adaptation of the costume (but not HIS costumne)? Yes.
Do I think the suit is a drastic change from what looks like Spider-Man? NO.
The costume looks fine. At present, it doesn't look at its best due to the lighting. I'm sure it will look 100% better come the film. Hell, the promo still of Garfield shows what the costume will look like with the correct lighting.
So far, I'm liking it. Yes, it too a bit of getting used to with the costume, but overall, i'm happy enough.
TheShadow
01-23-2011, 07:46 AM
Absolutely. Love it or hate it, this is the finished final suit. They may change the suit in a sequel, though.
and you know something we don't?:o
spider-neil
01-23-2011, 07:56 AM
and you know something we don't?:o
Just speculating but the official picture is from the final scenes, therefore it's the final suit. As for a sequel, who knows.
TheShadow
01-23-2011, 07:58 AM
Don't want to start anything, But Promo Pics are rarely taken from any part of a movie. I Don't Buy into the whole claw mark on his chest. It's just like back in the spider-man 3 days where someone saw something in his eye. :-p
Eggyman
01-23-2011, 08:02 AM
Just speculating but the official picture is from the final scenes, therefore it's the final suit. As for a sequel, who knows.
I'm not getting into the main of the argument because we just don't know if that's the wrestling suit or not. BUT, we certainly don't know that the first image is from the final scenes of the film. That's jumping a little bit to conclusions, mate. It could very well be just a promotional image that isn't in the film, aiming to give a vibe of what they're going for.
We don't know anything about it. So there's no point speaking like we do.
just wanted to point out: this may be his wrestilng suit, but he does have the webshooters on the pic...its not like he would wear those in the ring. Hence this could be the wrestling suit, but its also the the one he uses, at least for a while, to fight crime. It kinda goes wqithot saying but yeah.
TheShadow
01-23-2011, 08:27 AM
:up:I'm not getting into the main of the argument because we just don't know if that's the wrestling suit or not. BUT, we certainly don't know that the first image is from the final scenes of the film. That's jumping a little bit to conclusions, mate. It could very well be just a promotional image that isn't in the film, aiming to give a vibe of what they're going for.
We don't know anything about it. So there's no point speaking like we do.
TheShadow
01-23-2011, 08:29 AM
just wanted to point out: this may be his wrestilng suit, but he does have the webshooters on the pic...its not like he would wear those in the ring. Hence this could be the wrestling suit, but its also the the one he uses, at least for a while, to fight crime. It kinda goes wqithot saying but yeah.
I tend to not agree with this, He's used his webs in the ring before (Raimi film,90's animated flashbacks, comic) I Honestly Don't see why he wouldn't have webshooters. Would add more to his persona.:yay:
Spider-Aziz
01-23-2011, 08:35 AM
I think it'll be cool if the suit evolves through the whole movie with Pete making little changes here and there then we get the classic costume near the end of the movie.I hope for it too
It's the typical response to negativity. "Don't worry, they'll switch it for something better later in the film"What are the four stages preceding acceptance?
Spider-Aziz
01-23-2011, 08:40 AM
And yes, i agree; all those who think that this is the wrestling costume, and that the suit will change throughout the movie, are in denial. We've been through this time, and time again ppl. Haven't we learned already that what we see is what we're going to get?:huh:Metal straps on boots? No thanks
The movie is taking the origin to more depth than what Raimi did, didn't say this will be the only look of a costume for Spider-Man to put on the whole film series, or even just this film
not_a_victim
01-23-2011, 08:47 AM
It looks kinda cheapish in this lighting, but it's supposed to be that way, given Pete's budget and all that.
The stuntman has a bubble butt though and it seems to me as if his head is sticking too far out in the back, almost like a cycling helmet.
It is a helmet. If you look at the close up of the mask on the MTV page, you can see the seam in the back 1/3 of the helmet, running vertically down his head, behind his ears, and down to his neck. Remember, he's running in traffic and flipping into a moving truck, they probably MADE him wear a helmet.
conan69
01-23-2011, 09:45 AM
I think the manip on the previous page, with the red wrapping around the waist to the front - looks much better.
roach
01-23-2011, 09:52 AM
It's the typical response to negativity. "Don't worry, they'll switch it for something better later in the film"
i hear that in all the comic movies
was in TDK before anyone saw it: He becomes permawhite at the end
Cap:He'll get a more faithful costume in Avengers
Spider-man:He'll design webspinners when he loses the organics
Spider-ManHero12
01-23-2011, 09:58 AM
^^ Yup, it's quite common.
Golgo-13
01-23-2011, 10:48 AM
You guys are also forgetting that the budget for this movie is not as lavish as the Raimi films, so the fact that some of you are calling the costume cheap looking, thinking this is just one of many we'll see, or think it's his wrestling get up ,is quite absurd. :confused:
Every thing's going to be more practical this time. They can't afford to throw in cgi enhancement every which way, like they did in the other movies. Hell, i wouldn't be surprised if the Lizard was a guy in a fancy reptile suit, ala the old Godzilla films...:oldrazz:
NinjaCarm
01-23-2011, 10:51 AM
Alright I had to get this out of my system, I really did. To everyone complaining about how much they utterly hate the costume or nitpicking to death on it:
IMO, the costume, per the OFFICIAL released photo, shows the filmmakers instilled the classic red and blue while updating to their vision for the reboot. It is NOT a far way from the classic costume, people are blowing it out of proportion, a missing belt? Two blue fingers?
Get a life.
The MAIN issue, with this reboot, is that I'm excited, for once, FOR ONCE, they will be exploring Peter Parker's huge MISTAKE which inadvertently caused the death of his father figure, his uncle Ben.
This, is why, as many of you have seen, why I hated Raimi's "all about a girl" vision of Spider-Man. He just glanced, GLANCED over the most important aspect of Peter Parker. Not to mention, he made Spider-Man a mute no personality hero.
Aren't any of you the least excited, we will be getting a Batman Begins type of indepth journey of Peter Parker, with an insanely talented actor, who looks like the sleek thin Spider-Man from Amazing Fantasy #15? To learn from what was not done before in the previous trilogy?
They went a little of course with the costume, a little, but getting Peter Parker right this time, using practical effects with stuntmen, a killer cast, The Lizard, is not enough to make you feel "good" about this reboot?
One word: WOW
Mr. Earle
01-23-2011, 10:51 AM
What's with the silver shoes? Did he get some new Nike Air Jordans?
Mr. Earle
01-23-2011, 10:54 AM
I took my shot at fixing where the tears are and added where I feel the belt is supposed to be.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/redonespidey.jpg
This actually looks better because its not like he's naked with a red arrow pointing at his penor. http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/spider-man-575.jpg
LMAO! What?!?!?!?!The suit reminds me of the suits runners wear, especially that red line on his pants.
rahan
01-23-2011, 10:54 AM
This:
Just like no two artists have drawn Spidey 100% the same. Everyone brings something different to the table, but in the end, it's all Spider-Man.
Oh yeah like stupid race stripes and unecessairy fiddling with the basic design? Funny, all those artist'sinterpretations stayed pretty faithful to the basic design. Most changes in the book where of a cosmetic nature never drastically changing said design.
Costumes that really derivated from the basic design only lasted for specific arks not because the artist felt like he knows better.
ScarletSpider8i
01-23-2011, 10:55 AM
And again, I was letting it slide since it was a small comment, but considering it's still being referred to, I felt like commenting on it.
As for negative light, yes, majority of them have just been negative; from negative comments to negative responses.
You don't like that it was most likely inspired by a mix of House of M and "japan kids tv show character." Deal with it?
You've said it doesn't look like Spider-Man when it clearly does.
You posted a picture of you in the suit and proclaimed it was better, when it's just a dull, screened Raimi suit with a worse spider symbol.
It's a simple redesign like it's been done in comics many times before for just about every comic book superhero over time. Some like it, some don't, and that's fine. I just get annoyed reading complaints that have no merit other than personal tastes.
I'm done wasting my time with you. I don't care if you find peoples personal tastes annoying, don't read them. Don't reply to them. Everyone on the boards has their own personal taste that they share. Maybe your on the wrong boards. I'm done with this. Good luck!
roach
01-23-2011, 10:59 AM
Alright I had to get this out of my system, I really did. To everyone complaining about how much they utterly hate the costume or nitpicking to death on it:
IMO, the costume, per the OFFICIAL released photo, shows the filmmakers instilled the classic red and blue while updating to their vision for the reboot. It is NOT a far way from the classic costume, people are blowing it out of proportion, a missing belt? Two blue fingers?
Get a life.
The MAIN issue, with this reboot, is that I'm excited, for once, FOR ONCE, they will be exploring Peter Parker's huge MISTAKE which inadvertently caused the death of his father figure, his uncle Ben.
This, is why, as many of you have seen, why I hated Raimi's "all about a girl" vision of Spider-Man. He just glanced, GLANCED over the most important aspect of Peter Parker. Not to mention, he made Spider-Man a mute no personality hero.
Aren't any of you the least excited, we will be getting a Batman Begins type of indepth journey of Peter Parker, with an insanely talented actor, who looks like the sleek thin Spider-Man from Amazing Fantasy #15? To learn from what was not done before in the previous trilogy?
They went a little of course with the costume, a little, but getting Peter Parker right this time, using practical effects with stuntmen, a killer cast, The Lizard, is not enough to make you feel "good" about this reboot?
One word: WOW
hahahahahaha...this is pure irony...and it is delicious. You hate the Raimi movies so much that you'll nitpick the hell out of them but when someone does it to the film you have hitched your horses too...its too much for you...lol
Remind me again was there even and Uncle Ben or Aunt May in the Hammond shows???
People like what they like and people hate what they hate and trying to convince them otherwise aint gonna happen
NinjaCarm
01-23-2011, 11:01 AM
hahahahahaha...this is pure irony...and it is delicious. You hate the Raimi movies so much that you'll nitpick the hell out of them but when someone does it to the film you have hitched your horses too...its too much for you...lol
Remind me again was there even and Uncle Ben or Aunt May in the Hammond shows???
People like what they like and people hate what they hate and trying to convince them otherwise aint gonna happen
Whining over two blue fingers while getting a better interpretation of Peter Parker is sad. You all need to get some perspective. The Raimi films, so much to nitpick, sooooooo much
Nicholas Hammond was the best live action Peter Parker, way more personality than Tobey "dear in the healdights" Maguire
Ahh That 70's Spidey, time to watch another episode..
rahan
01-23-2011, 11:06 AM
So, basically, make it just like standard suit and don't dare make any artistic changes? Gotcha!
:whatever:
Exactly! Don't mess with a design that has been proven to work just because you feel you need to pass some "artistic gas". You can apply you artistic talent doing cosmetic changes until you drop dead. Meaning, change the suits texture, fabric, add seams, change the way the webbing is applied like raise it, indent it. Change the shape of the eyes or even make the basic shapes sleeker, play around with the chest or back spider, all of that is no problem. Justt don't mess with the basic design, don't leave stuff out or add your own crap like the red racing stripes or those abismal blue stripes on the gloves.
roach
01-23-2011, 11:06 AM
Whining over two blue fingers while getting a better interpretation of Peter Parker is sad. You all need to get some perspective. The Raimi films, so much to nitpick, sooooooo much
How do you know that the movie that they are filming right now is a better interpretation??? I think you need to gain some perspective
Nicholas Hammond was the best live action Peter Parker, way more personality than Tobey "dear in the healdights" Maguire
Ahh That 70's Spidey, time to watch another episode..
Yet the 70's show didnt go into the all important mistake that you have diminished the Raimi movies over...:woot:
ScarletSpider8i
01-23-2011, 11:08 AM
I think it's all generational. How you first are introduced to the character reflects the value of who Spider-man is, and how you feel he should be represented. I'm an 80's spidey guy. Some people came in with Mcfarlene in the 90's, or ultimate Spider-man now. Some people only know the movie Spider-Man, or the cartoons. It's hard to please everyone, and I see the irony in it all.
roach
01-23-2011, 11:09 AM
I think it's all generational. How you first are introduced to the character reflects the value of who Spider-man is, and how you feel he should be represented. I'm an 80's spidey guy. Some people came in with Mcfarlene in the 90's, or ultimate Spider-man now. Some people only know the movie Spider-Man, or the cartoons. It's hard to please everyone, and I see the irony in it all.
Honestly I agree with this.
NinjaCarm
01-23-2011, 11:09 AM
Yet the 70's show didnt go into the all important mistake that you have diminished the Raimi movies over...:woot:
It certainly didn't where did I say it did? I just have my signature say the best live action peter parker, correct?
You would be a poor lawyer.... don't get into law
NinjaCarm
01-23-2011, 11:11 AM
I think it's all generational. How you first are introduced to the character reflects the value of who Spider-man is, and how you feel he should be represented. I'm an 80's spidey guy. Some people came in with Mcfarlene in the 90's, or ultimate Spider-man now. Some people only know the movie Spider-Man, or the cartoons. It's hard to please everyone, and I see the irony in it all.
Very good post
ScarletSpider8i
01-23-2011, 11:12 AM
I think the best Peter Parker to date was in a cartoon. Spectacular Spider-Man Josh Keaton.
ScarletSpider8i
01-23-2011, 11:12 AM
Very good postThanks! :yay:
NinjaCarm
01-23-2011, 11:14 AM
I think the best Peter Parker to date was in a cartoon. Spectacular Spider-Man Josh Keaton.
In terms of animation, I did like the 90's one a lot, but TSSM is very good too. My sig is for live action:cwink:
ScarletSpider8i
01-23-2011, 11:14 AM
I do love the theme song to the 70's tv show. Everytime I start up my computer it plays! lol
roach
01-23-2011, 11:14 AM
It certainly didn't where did I say it did? I just have my signature say the best live action peter parker, correct?
You would be a poor lawyer.... don't get into law
I dont know you. All I have to go on is what you type. You mentioned you hated the Raimi movies because they didnt go into the all important mistake(I dont agree with this but that your opinion). Then you mention that the 70's show is what you feel Spiderman should be...Hammond being a better Peter....yet the 70's Spider-man didnt go into the very thing that you hate the movies for....does that seem like a reasonable thing???
Its like saying you hated the Burton movies for the black suit but you love the Nolan movies for the black suit. It doesnt make sense.
NinjaCarm
01-23-2011, 11:19 AM
I dont know you. All I have to go on is what you type. You mentioned you hated the Raimi movies because they didnt go into the all important mistake(I dont agree with this but that your opinion). Then you mention that the 70's show is what you feel Spiderman should be...Hammond being a better Peter....yet the 70's Spider-man didnt go into the very thing that you hate the movies for....does that seem like a reasonable thing???
Its like saying you hated the Burton movies for the black suit but you love the Nolan movies for the black suit. It doesnt make sense.
At least Peter Parker had a pulse in the 70's show. He had spunk. But, I never said anything else good about the 70's Spider-Man show, ever... Maguire, for me, perhaps it was Raimi's direction, did a horrendous job, IMO, as Peter Parker.
One of the most important facets, Peter Parker, IMO, was dwindled to some wuss always crying over the girl.
If doesn't make sense, well I'm sorry buddy. Not a lot of things make sense in this life.
roach
01-23-2011, 11:24 AM
At least Peter Parker had a pulse in the 70's show. He had spunk. Maguire, for me, perhaps it was Raimi's direction, did a horrendous job, IMO, as Peter Parker. I never said anything else good about the 70's Spider-Man show, ever...
One of the most important facets, Peter Parker, IMO, was dwindled to some wuss always crying over the girl.
If doesn't make sense, well I'm sorry buddy. Not a lot of things make sense in this life.
as was mentioned before everyones interpretation of Spider-man is based on their introduction to the character...be it comics, cartoons or shows. Is not Raimi allowed to have his interpretation of the character based on what he was introduced to???
I am sure Webb is doing the movies in his interpretation.
Alchemyst
01-23-2011, 11:24 AM
I do love the theme song to the 70's tv show. Everytime I start up my computer it plays! lol
I wish the 70's show was on dvd, I loved watching that. I'm suprised Nicholas Hammond never had a cameo or anything in any of the Spider-Man films
Knight Rise
01-23-2011, 11:24 AM
why taking so much effort for a wrestling suit? this will be the suit...
you act like this suit takes months to make when actually, i could make it myself just by walking down to an athletic store and finish it within a day. a DAY. when you look at Raimi's wrestling costume, if you actually looked at the realism between that and this, yes its obvious that the cloth appearence looks like it could be made quicker, but with all the reference pictures from "With Great Power...", im convinced its the wrestling costume.
As for the claw marks, maybe he encounters Lizard once, decides this suit wont cut it, and forms the classic Spider-Man suit from "With Great Power..." (which is actually a really good look).
Why is he running? Well for one, he doesnt have claw marks, so hes run out of webbing and is chasing Uncle Ben's killer. And knowing he runs out of webbing easily, after his fight with the Lizard, he will form the belt with his new suit.
Just my thoughts
ScarletSpider8i
01-23-2011, 11:24 AM
Live action Peter Parker, I think both actors did good. You have to appreciate it for what it is, or more importantly when it was. For a 70's show it was good. Not many 20 year olds or younger could relate though. They wouldn't get past the "70's". As for Tobey, Raimi wanted a dated parker as well, but Peter was the only one who felt old school so it was awkward at times.
rahan
01-23-2011, 11:26 AM
To Rahan:
I am going to strongly suggest, for your own health, stop reading these boards. For you, seeing anything other than the suit YOU would have put in the movie, is just going to stress you out. All of that unneeded stress is just going to give you an ulcer, and you are far too young for that.
Wrong, I have absolutely no problem with changes, as long as the basic design stays intact, I like Raimi's raised webbing. I like Mister Webbs indented ones. I prefer the honeycomb texture of Mister Webb over Raimi's texture. I have no problems with such interpretations. What I don't like is red stripes on the legs, stupid blue stripes on the gloves, metal stripes on the boots and leaving out the red belt on his hips, making the red part of his chest look like a huge shlong.
We all get the point that you think the suit sucks, you are not alone on this, as there seems to be a lot of people here that feel the same way. However, you and they are working yourselves into a frenzy over some spy shots! Just like the Batboards did before The Dark Knight, just the Spiderboards did for Spider-Man 3. So, I suggest you take it easy and quit getting yourself worked up. Nothing you post here is going to change that suit. So, why not just wait and see what it looks like in a finished trailer, then, if you still don't like it, stay home and don't watch the movie.
Oh, I plan on not seeing it anyway, the costume is such an eyesore that I lost interest in the movie the minute I layed eyes on it. Why should I wait until I see it in an official trailer? Are the stupid changes going to magically dissappear in the trailer after post production?
You know, it's really strange. When the first pics of Raimis suit surfaced I was delighted. I liked how faithful the suit was and how he still managed to make it visually interesting with the raised webs, and texture. Yet, when Webbs costume appeared I thought " what a missed opportunity, it's a thorough dissapointment." The funny thing is, I didn't even like Spider-man 1 so much, I thought it was formulaic and mediocre. Still I praise it for the costume.
You know for once I'd like to have a Spidey movie that has both, a good looking, faithful costume and good story telling and acting, and as it stands now I'm still not gonna get that with this movie that's why I'm dissapointed.
Alchemyst
01-23-2011, 11:28 AM
Live action Peter Parker, I think both actors did good. You have to appreciate it for what it is, or more importantly when it was. For a 70's show it was good. Not many 20 year olds or younger could relate though. They wouldn't get past the "70's". As for Tobey, Raimi wanted a dated parker as well, but Peter was the only one who felt old school so it was awkward at times.
I thought the 70's Spider-Man show was really good. Too bad it had only lasted like a couple of years, I was born in the 80's but I remember watching a few vhs tapes of the show and that was all I had aside from the cartoons as far as interaction with Spider-Man I didn't get into the comic books until I was like in 3rd grade
ScarletSpider8i
01-23-2011, 11:32 AM
as was mentioned before everyones interpretation of Spider-man is based on their introduction to the character...be it comics, cartoons or shows. Is not Raimi allowed to have his interpretation of the character based on what he was introduced to???
I am sure Webb is doing the movies in his interpretation.
Raimi pretty much stuck with the stories From Amazing Spider-Man during the 60's-70's. The comics then did kinda feel like soap opera. It was all about peter trying to get the girl, and awkward moments then a rhino shows up. lol So raimi used the spidey he knew. Peter wasn't funny then. Spidey kinda was. It was dry.
ScarletSpider8i
01-23-2011, 11:33 AM
I thought the 70's Spider-Man show was really good. Too bad it had only lasted like a couple of years, I was born in the 80's but I remember watching a few vhs tapes of the show and that was all I had aside from the cartoons as far as interaction with Spider-Man I didn't get into the comic books until I was like in 3rd grade
Remember Spider-Man and his amazing friends? lol Loved it!
Hotwire
01-23-2011, 11:38 AM
Oh yeah like stupid race stripes and unecessairy fiddling with the basic design? Funny, all those artist'sinterpretations stayed pretty faithful to the basic design. Most changes in the book where of a cosmetic nature never drastically changing said design.
Costumes that really derivated from the basic design only lasted for specific arks not because the artist felt like he knows better.
We get it! You don't like the suit! You keep repeating yourself. I really think these boards are not doing anything except working you into a fanboy rage. If you keep this up, your going to give yourself an ulcer.
rahan
01-23-2011, 11:40 AM
Alright I had to get this out of my system, I really did. To everyone complaining about how much they utterly hate the costume or nitpicking to death on it:
IMO, the costume, per the OFFICIAL released photo, shows the filmmakers instilled the classic red and blue while updating to their vision for the reboot. It is NOT a far way from the classic costume, people are blowing it out of proportion, a missing belt? Two blue fingers?
Get a life.
The MAIN issue, with this reboot, is that I'm excited, for once, FOR ONCE, they will be exploring Peter Parker's huge MISTAKE which inadvertently caused the death of his father figure, his uncle Ben.
This, is why, as many of you have seen, why I hated Raimi's "all about a girl" vision of Spider-Man. He just glanced, GLANCED over the most important aspect of Peter Parker. Not to mention, he made Spider-Man a mute no personality hero.
Aren't any of you the least excited, we will be getting a Batman Begins type of indepth journey of Peter Parker, with an insanely talented actor, who looks like the sleek thin Spider-Man from Amazing Fantasy #15? To learn from what was not done before in the previous trilogy?
They went a little of course with the costume, a little, but getting Peter Parker right this time, using practical effects with stuntmen, a killer cast, The Lizard, is not enough to make you feel "good" about this reboot?
One word: WOW
No, to me it's not enough, It's not only about the story and acting it's also about the right look and when that is off, even though everything else is great, it's a flawed product, plain and simple and for once... just for once I would like a product without flaws!
Alchemyst
01-23-2011, 11:42 AM
Remember Spider-Man and his amazing friends? lol Loved it!
lol I loved that cartoon. Spider-Man, Firestar and Iceman, and their secret lab built in their apartment lol :awesome:
ScarletSpider8i
01-23-2011, 11:42 AM
I have watched Every Show, movie, cartoon, and have read every comic book issue with a Spider-man title. There have been many variations of the personality Peter Parker. But the suit has always Been the same. Minor changes to chest spiders and back spiders, and the eyes but The true red & blue stays. The only other costume of Spider-mans that was as accepted was the Black suit. I also like the texture of Webbs suit just not the design. It could have been great.
roach
01-23-2011, 11:44 AM
Remember Spider-Man and his amazing friends? lol Loved it!
I was watching Being Human and thought this would be a kool idea with superheroes and then realized they did with Spiderman and his amazing friends
Hotwire
01-23-2011, 11:44 AM
Exactly! Don't mess with a design that has been proven to work just because you feel you need to pass some "artistic gas". You can apply you artistic talent doing cosmetic changes until you drop dead. Meaning, change the suits texture, fabric, add seams, change the way the webbing is applied like raise it, indent it. Change the shape of the eyes or even make the basic shapes sleeker, play around with the chest or back spider, all of that is no problem. Justt don't mess with the basic design, don't leave stuff out or add your own crap like the red racing stripes or those abismal blue stripes on the gloves.
Since when do you make the rules of what artists, hired by the owners of the intellectual property, can and can't do with the design? You don't like, don't watch it. You like the comics better, go read them. You've made your point, now let it go. Please.
Side Note: Just now read you response to my original comment to you.
NinjaCarm
01-23-2011, 11:45 AM
as was mentioned before everyones interpretation of Spider-man is based on their introduction to the character...be it comics, cartoons or shows. Is not Raimi allowed to have his interpretation of the character based on what he was introduced to???
I am sure Webb is doing the movies in his interpretation.
Yet almost all the interpretations in animation (and the 70s show) have stuck to the core of Peter Parker's personality / quipping yet Raimi decided to "interpret" him into a mime and with Peter not far from it.
Good call Raimi.:whatever:
joey_z
01-23-2011, 11:45 AM
For those that insist this is wrestling spidey's costume only are wrong. I don't think Peter had made his webshooters before Ben dead. And the webshooters are clearly visible on his suit.
A Necessary Evil
01-23-2011, 11:46 AM
Yet almost all the interpretations in animation (and the 70s show) have stuck to the core of Peter Parker's personality / quipping yet Raimi decided to "interpret" him into a mime and with Peter not far from it.
Good call Raimi.:whatever:
Ninja, you so :funny:
At least he can get the simplistic things done right, something your good pal Webb can't do. :up:
roach
01-23-2011, 11:46 AM
Yet almost all the interpretations in animation (and the 70s show) have stuck to the core of Peter Parker's personality / quipping yet Raimi decided to "interpret" him into a mime and with Peter not far from it.
Good call Raimi.:whatever:
ok im throwing the BS flag on this one....Spider-man was more of a mime in the 70's show than the Raimi movies.
Your rage against the Raimi movies is showing
ScarletSpider8i
01-23-2011, 11:47 AM
I was watching Being Human and thought this would be a kool idea with superheroes and then realized they did with Spiderman and his amazing friends
:yay:
Pac-Master
01-23-2011, 11:49 AM
This is exactly why Sony released an official picture early. They knew all this would happen. They knew the suit that they were filming with would not reflect the suit you would see on screen. Sure, I know some of you just don't like the stripe down the leg, no belt, etc. That's just your opinion, and I understand. I'm not saying the design changes will magically disappear. What I'm saying is that it's just plain stupid to judge a set picture over an official one. There are textures, designs, and colors you can't see in these amateur photos that make the suit look less pleasing. Many details that make a difference are lost. If you liked the official picture but hate the set picture, you probably have nothing to worry about.
And we've been down this road before with other superhero set pictures, with the many complaints and critiques, but they all ended the same way once an official pic was released. Just have patience and hope.
NinjaCarm
01-23-2011, 11:49 AM
Ninja, you so :funny:
At least he can get the simplistic things done right, something your good pal Webb can't do. :up:
Yeah, like the Gobln's costume, Sandman killing Uncle Ben, Venom-lite, Mary Jane first, black hair Flash Thompson, organic webshooters, yeah he nailed all those.
The core of Peter Parker is more important than slight "tweaks" to the costume. What a poor post by you, just trying to gain momentum from fellow posters who share your sentiments...
Spider-ManHero12
01-23-2011, 11:50 AM
Your rage against the Raimi movies is showing Isn't it? IT sems as though it's gotten to the point where they have to pick things in the background to complain about.
NinjaCarm
01-23-2011, 11:51 AM
ok im throwing the BS flag on this one....Spider-man was more of a mime in the 70's show than the Raimi movies.
Your rage against the Raimi movies is showing
Peter Parker wasn't and again, all forms of animation got Peter Parker / Spider-Man right, yet Raimi failed to do so.
What a sin. Good riddance Raimi.
I believe in Marc Webb and Andrew Garfield.
NinjaCarm
01-23-2011, 11:51 AM
Oh here comes SpiderMan Hero to join in on the gain up....
A Necessary Evil
01-23-2011, 11:52 AM
Yeah, like the Gobln's costume, Sandman killing Uncle Ben, Venom-lite, Mary Jane first, black hair Flash Thompson, organic webshooters, yeah he nailed all those.
The core of Peter Parker is more important than slight "tweaks" to the costume. What a poor post by you, just trying to gain momentum from fellow posters who share your sentiments...
Oh, wanna get into the venom discussion again? Cause I'm game :up:
MJ first...oh noez, how about teh Rachel Dawz?! Black hair...nitpicking? Pot, Meet Kettle. LOL.
Organics? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Webshooters.
roach
01-23-2011, 11:52 AM
Yeah, like the Gobln's costume, Sandman killing Uncle Ben, Venom-lite, Mary Jane first, black hair Flash Thompson, organic webshooters, yeah he nailed all those.
The core of Peter Parker is more important than slight "tweaks" to the costume. What a poor post by you, just trying to gain momentum from fellow posters who share your sentiments...
and yet none of those things appeared in the Hammond series yet you still find it watchable
rahan
01-23-2011, 11:52 AM
Since when do you make the rules of what artists, hired by the owners of the intellectual property, can and can't do with the design? You don't like, don't watch it. You like the comics better, go read them. You've made your point, now let it go. Please.
Side Note: Just now read you response to my original comment to you.
Oh they can do anything with the design. Still I'll can also call their stuff bad if I think it is. and I do, the new suit is bad and yes I plan on not watching it. I don't like the comics better just the comic costume, in fact I don't read them and hey, it's a discussion board, I can make my points as often as I like to. If you have a problem with it, complain to a mod or something.
ScarletSpider8i
01-23-2011, 11:53 AM
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ky0aotL77n1qzvw5po1_500.jpg
NinjaCarm
01-23-2011, 11:53 AM
and yet none of those things appeared in the Hammond series yet you still find it watchable
A sin. Remember... a sin.
craigdbfan
01-23-2011, 11:53 AM
I loved Spidey and his Amazing Friends. Good show.
Spider-ManHero12
01-23-2011, 11:53 AM
Peter Parker wasn't and again, all forms of animation got Peter Parker / Spider-Man right, yet Raimi failed to do so. It's called an inteprretation. Ultimate SPider-Man was intepretation. Spider-Man: Noire is an interpretation. Every superhero film is pretty much an interpretation, dude.
socool
01-23-2011, 11:53 AM
Yeah, like the Gobln's costume, Sandman killing Uncle Ben, Venom-lite, Mary Jane first, black hair Flash Thompson, organic webshooters, yeah he nailed all those.
WTF!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA! :pal:
roach
01-23-2011, 11:54 AM
Peter Parker wasn't and again, all forms of animation got Peter Parker / Spider-Man right, yet Raimi failed to do so.
What a sin. Good riddance Raimi.
I believe in Marc Webb and Andrew Garfield.
it will be funny to see your responses after this movie comes out.
Spider-ManHero12
01-23-2011, 11:55 AM
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NinjaCarm
01-23-2011, 11:55 AM
Oh, wanna get into the venom discussion again? Cause I'm game :up:
MJ first...oh noez, how about teh Rachel Dawz?! Black hair...nitpicking? Pot, Meet Kettle. LOL.
Organics? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Webshooters.
:huh::huh:
was this an actual post? Is this even a coherent paragraph, sentence...?
ScarletSpider8i
01-23-2011, 11:56 AM
Spider-Man Noir is AWESOME!
NinjaCarm
01-23-2011, 11:56 AM
Roach, SpiderManHero12, and SeverusSnape, ... all three of my favorite posters at once, wow, what are the odds...
A Necessary Evil
01-23-2011, 11:56 AM
:huh::huh:
was this an actual post? Is this even a coherent paragraph, sentence...?
So...does this mean you don't wanna discuss why your trolling is showing? :huh::huh:
War Party
01-23-2011, 11:56 AM
Haha, I just found out about all of this this morning. I didn't even know they were filming either. But yeah, I dig this costume. Looks pretty cool.
NinjaCarm
01-23-2011, 11:57 AM
It's called an inteprretation. Ultimate SPider-Man was intepretation. Spider-Man: Noire is an interpretation. Every superhero film is pretty much an interpretation, dude.
Yet again, Raimi made Peter a wuss / mute and all about the girl but every other interpretation did not.
A sin.
Spider-ManHero12
01-23-2011, 11:57 AM
WTF!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA! :pal: And that's exactly what i'm talking about! Stupid criticisms. What about CHris Zylka who's playing Flash in Webb's film? He's almost bald, but nobody's complaining. The fact that he's got almost a complete shaved head doesn't bother me one bit. Like I said, some people are just bashing Raimi for stupid reasons.
socool
01-23-2011, 11:58 AM
:huh::huh:
was this an actual post? Is this even a coherent paragraph, sentence...?
Here, I'll translate.
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You wanna get into a pointless argument about Raimi's Venom? Sure!
MJ first was terrible Just like Rachel Dawes in Batman Begins. Complaining about Flash's hair is nitpicking. You're a noob. Laugh out loud.
Organic web-shooters are better than mechanical.
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There. Better?
rahan
01-23-2011, 11:58 AM
The core of Peter Parker is more important than slight "tweaks" to the costume. What a poor post by you, just trying to gain momentum from fellow posters who share your sentiments...
Wrong it's just as important as the rest and it's not "slight" tweaks, it's a completely altered design. Raimis were "slight" tweaks.
Damn, by now I wish they would have gone with the symbiote suit. I'd have less trouble accepting that than the Webb abomination because the symbiote suit's design looks good compared to Webb's unbalanced, ugly racing suit.
NinjaCarm
01-23-2011, 11:58 AM
Time to go get ready for the Bears / Packers fiesta fellas nice talking about how Raimi messed up Peter Parker...
See you all later...
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