Spider-Man Reboot Costume

[Gamma Goliath]

Nuh uh, never for a movie.

[Ajendo]

"Recognizable" isn't good enough in my opinion. We set the bar really low when we accept that. Sure it had the basic elements so we knew who it was supposed to be, but I want more than that. Clooney's suit was recognizable as Batman but it was still a horrible design. Hammond's suit was recognizable as Spider-Man but it looked like crap. I don't want "Recognizable as..."; I want "Captures the true essence of" at a minimum, and at best "Is truly, definitively the look of..."!

Everything you said right here can be applied to the characterisations and the overall feel of Raimi's movies too. It's recognisable as spidey movies but as you said, recognizable isn't good enough. Just wanted to share that.

As for the costume, to be perfectly honest, the spidey costume in Raimi's movies were perfect. Slight alterations with the web-design and the eyes is all that is needed really.

[sabetoonth]

What a neat costume!

http://sfstory.free.fr/images/Spiderman/spiderman1024.jpg
for a movie suit, HELL ****IN NO!

[Chris Wallace]

1)Why you guys want spiderman non tight suit? I mean you are showing like first Superman suit material.

2)Why the hell you want ruin those eyes? I think in old Spiderman he had perfect eye but if you make so big, he is like monster..

Huh?

[Chris Wallace]

Everything you said right here can be applied to the characterisations and the overall feel of Raimi's movies too. It's recognisable as spidey movies but as you said, recognizable isn't good enough. Just wanted to share that.


Never miss an opportunity to knock Raimi's movies, huh? :whatever: My post pertained to costumes, as this is a costume thread. Your need to "share" something that you've posted numerous times in other threads is truly unjustified.
Be that as it may, I disagree wholeheartedly. I do feel that the true essence of Spider-Man was captured, or else those movies would not be on my DVD shelf.

Oh-and that Ross design is perfectly hideous.

[NinjaCarm]

This is perfect.

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7200000/MARVEL-U-marvel-comics-7246334-600-911.jpg

[White_Knight191]

^^That's perfect.

[Doctor Jones]

I want that on my wall.

[Chris Wallace]

This is perfect.

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7200000/MARVEL-U-marvel-comics-7246334-600-911.jpg

Damn the red x.

[sabetoonth]

This is perfect.

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7200000/MARVEL-U-marvel-comics-7246334-600-911.jpg
i am going to have to disagree becuase ask anyone, there will never be a live action perfect suit, people disagree too much

However, i do think that is at leas incredibly close to the best costume for the new films if it isnt

[LegendaryCaleb]

Ninja that picture is beautiful! and near perfection!

[NinjaCarm]

^

Thank you thank you. I can totally see that working and I hope to God they use it. I love that look, John Romita Sr style and it works, the small eyes.

One of the best Spider-Man figures out there is

http://www.amazon.com/Spider-Man-Dual-Web-Swinging-Action-Figure/dp/B0006HTQ5M

[Chris Wallace]

This is perfect.

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7200000/MARVEL-U-marvel-comics-7246334-600-911.jpg

Now that I can see it, that is one of the better ones.

[NinjaCarm]

Now that I can see it, that is one of the better ones.

Actually guys and gals it makes a great computer wallpaper set it as center with a black color background and it is seemless. Pefect. Really hope they try to use this for the reboot.:awesome:

[Gamma Goliath]

Eyes are just fine, imo.

[Brian Braddock]

I hope they stick with the white lenses for the new movie, Personally, I've never been a fan of the mirror-look eyes; reminds me of the tv show too much. That's one of the many things that the Raimi costumes got right - they showed us that you could have white lenses on the costume just like the white eyes of the mask in the comic.

[Rodrigo90]

I cant even see it,lol.

[NinjaCarm]

I don't understand the disliking for the small eyes from some people, it's classic spider-man. It's scary too, which is awesome.

I'd love to see it personally.

[Ajendo]

Never miss an opportunity to knock Raimi's movies, huh? :whatever: My post pertained to costumes, as this is a costume thread. Your need to "share" something that you've posted numerous times in other threads is truly unjustified.

Not really because I still brought my post round to talking about the costume. Secondly, I took advantage of an interesting perspective which you would never apply to the movies as whole entities and applied it to my overall opinion of the movies.

Be that as it may, I disagree wholeheartedly. I do feel that the true essence of Spider-Man was captured, or else those movies would not be on my DVD shelf

I'm delighted to hear that, Chris. I just wish I could have said the same but fortunately I get another chance to maybe enjoy these new movies.

[Troy_Parker]

What a neat costume!

http://sfstory.free.fr/images/Spiderman/spiderman1024.jpg

I don't know if this makes sense but erm, the curved mirrored lenses make him look TOO bug-like... lol.

Soo yeah, this suit should never be used in a movie.

[NinjaCarm]

I actually love the way Marcos Martin draws Spider-Man, he has drawn about ten or so issues of Amazing Spider-Man the last few years, it's a shame he should draw more.

The costume style is very ditko-romita classic. I love it, and his style.
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/6342/10263new_storyimage-27974999_527_11111111111x800.jpg
http://www.comicsbulletin.com/news/images/0805/asm560.jpg
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/martin1.jpg

I wish they could draw inspiration from Martin, as well as John Romita Sr and the classic red and blue Alex Ross style.

[El Payaso]

I don't know if this makes sense but erm, the curved mirrored lenses make him look TOO bug-like... lol.

Yeah, it looks like he was a spider or something.

[Chris Wallace]

More like an alien.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Edit - nvm.

[Troy_Parker]

More like an alien.


True say, this is a better comparison. lol

[Chris Wallace]

Words cannot quantify how glad I am that Raimi & Co. didn't go with that design. I've realized in recent years that this is Ross' approach to all redesigns; check out his take on the X-Men.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/IcemanFan15/X-men/x-men-by-alex-rosswallpaper.jpg
Or better yet, Bucky/Cap:
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/SecretagentHerbert/captainamerica2.jpg

[NinjaCarm]

^

I liked his X-Men designs actually.

[Chris Wallace]

I could've done without the hooded cloaks. Made them look like some kind of monks. The suits looked good in poses but I'm not sure how I'd feel about them in action sequences.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Agreed.

The choice Raimi and Co made was great. If they would have whent with Ross's, I probably would have died.

[mre]

I've never seen those XMen designs before.
Alex Ross is amazing. I really wish they used his designs. But I think his Spider-Man one is the weakest.

[sabetoonth]

I've never seen those XMen designs before.
Alex Ross is amazing. I really wish they used his designs. But I think his Spider-Man one is the weakest.
i have a magazine those appeared in, some where ive got it

[Jumpin' Jack]

I think they should go with the Ditko/Romita Sr. costume, a bit of a change and maybe change the eyes to the smaller, sinister ones.

[Brian Braddock]

Words cannot quantify how glad I am that Raimi & Co. didn't go with that design. I've realized in recent years that this is Ross' approach to all redesigns; check out his take on the X-Men.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/IcemanFan15/X-men/x-men-by-alex-rosswallpaper.jpg
Or better yet, Bucky/Cap:
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/SecretagentHerbert/captainamerica2.jpg


Agreed emphatically.

I've said it many times before that Ross' whole approach to a 'redesign' seems to be make it 90% black with a 10% signature area as a nod to the old costume so as to differenciate it from the others.

Some may say it's a 'less is more' approach but I actually think it's quite disrespectful when you look at it. I mean, for someone who's such a staunch traditionalist of these characters and the whole superhero mythos in general, it sure comes across as if some of Ross' redesigns are ashamed of where they come from.

I dunno, maybe its just me, but surely the biggest design challenge would be to try and take whats on the printed page and make the closest thing you can to it, not to shy away from what it is?

The Raimi costume did that.

[socool]

Agreed emphatically.

I've said it many times before that Ross' whole approach to a 'redesign' seems to be make it 90% black with a 10% signature area as a nod to the old costume so as to differenciate it from the others.

Some may say it's a 'less is more' approach but I actually think it's quite disrespectful when you look at it. I mean, for someone who's such a staunch traditionalist of these characters and the whole superhero mythos in general, it sure comes across as if some of Ross' redesigns are ashamed of where they come from.

I dunno, maybe its just me, but surely the biggest design challenge would be to try and take whats on the printed page and make the closest thing you can to it, not to shy away from what it is?

The Raimi costume did that.
the only thing he did to the X-men costume was add coats and hoods. the captain america costume had to be different; it's a different person.

[Chris Wallace]

So was John Walker.
So is Dick Grayson.
So is Wally West. I can go on and on.
Does anyone have a PREFERRED shade of red & blue? I don't know that short of hot pink, the red can be too bright or that short of the Marines' jackets, the blue can be too dark.

[Troy_Parker]

Does else anyone think the web design wallpaper (or poster or whatever it was) behind Andrew Garfield, when he was announced as Peter, could be an indication of how the webbing could look on the suit?

http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/images/2010/07/Andrew-Garfield-Spider-Man.jpg

It actually looks quite flat aswell, not entirely... but just enough to seperate it from the Raimi suit.

[sabetoonth]

I thought that was something from the raimi movies being reused?

[Brian Braddock]

the only thing he did to the X-men costume was add coats and hoods. the captain america costume had to be different; it's a different person.

I honestly dont think you've actually read what I posted.

[Troy_Parker]

I thought that was something from the raimi movies being reused?

I don't know, it could be... I just thought the 'messy' look of the webbing was unlike that of anything from the Raimi ones... tbh, you could be right. lol

[Chris Wallace]

I never thought about it. I doubt it, though.

[Doctor Jones]

It's different. This is more organic looking yet still has that shine to it.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Edit - nvm

[Spider-ManHero12]

I never thought about it. I doubt it, though. I second that.

[SpeterMan3]

I thought about it for about a second, but that's it.

[Chris Wallace]

What about my color question?

[LegendaryCaleb]

Big eyes can work!
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[Dead Ken]

Big eyes can work!
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That was SWEET!

[LegendaryCaleb]

yeah man it was a commercial on one of the vhs's my cousin was watching today and i remembered as a kid that and the 90s series made me a super fan
universal really had the b-a color schemes...the awesome lil fight and even the costume pretty spot on

[sabetoonth]

Big eyes can work!
B6ncn1YVroc
why do they glow? :hehe:

[Doctor Jones]

That commercial was pretty damn cool. Could a Spider-man film be made in the 90's? If a theme park commercial could pull that off, I think they could do more with a studio production. Or maybe not. Spider-Man swinging wouldn't look as good.

[LegendaryCaleb]

why do they glow? :hehe:
hah im guessin it was because the lighting was so dull that the eyes were too dark so they made them glow instead :oldrazz:

and i definitely think they coulda made one in the 90's!
the swinging would be ugly but the fights would be just fine!

[Chris Wallace]

That was a commercial. And should not be the template for a movie.

[LegendaryCaleb]

no...but a sign that spidey doesnt need raised webbing and that big eyes can look great on screen....yes.

[Chris Wallace]

It doesn't prove anything and I don't think it looks that great myself. I think it looks ok, but that's it. I think that switching off and on between the white lenses and the reflective lenses was a smart move, and should be retained.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy237/otherside1994/spider-man.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n11/jeun414/Anime/spider_man_2_2004_poster.jpg
We only need reflective lenses when there's something to reflect.

[sabetoonth]

I thought it was worse then ok like, meh, i like the eyes from the raimi movies

[Chris Wallace]

The eyes looked like they were glowing.

[LegendaryCaleb]

I love raimis costume as well...one thing he did get right...i just thought that video was a good sign that you can make it look realistic and it still look cool...but guess not...
and the eyes were obviously glowing...i never said "they should glow!"
they were just bagley sized eyes and they looked good...of course i want romita eyes.
I just know this movie is not going to have the same costume...
so I want a more less overly expensive costume

[Chris Wallace]

It really didn't convince me either way. What kinda sorta works for 30 seconds in low light and what works for 2 hours on the big screen is 2 totally different things.

[Doctor Jones]

I always liked the reflective lenses. It shows alot more going on in his eyes. I mean you can't use it for everything, but as Raimi did, he showed big moments through them only and were for more close ups if I remember correctly.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Agreed.

[Spider-Vader]

hah im guessin it was because the lighting was so dull that the eyes were too dark so they made them glow instead :oldrazz:

and i definitely think they coulda made one in the 90's!
the swinging would be ugly but the fights would be just fine!

They could of but the ideas Cameron had for the Spidey movie in the '90s were horrible. Basically like everything he's done after Terminator 2. :rimshot:

[Jumpin' Jack]

What where they like I can't really remember the ideas.

[NinjaCarm]

http://neutralzonecomics.com/images/arossmbspidey.jpg

Ahem.

[sabetoonth]

I wouldnt mind those eyes, or bagley eyes this go round, and them to be rounded too

[Michellemabelle]

I wouldn't mind rounded or Bagley-style eyes this time around. I'd be fine if the suit was kept more or less the same (even though there's likely to be some alterations).

And though I might be alone in this, if they wanted to make things a bit different, I wouldn't mind if they tried to use a version of the Alex Ross design for the suit in the original film.

[NinjaCarm]

I don't know how well Mark Bagley Spider-Man eyes can look on screen. It might look ridiculous.

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/spider-man/24-1.jpg

[Michellemabelle]

Wow... I forgot how big Bagley made the eyes. It's been a couple months since I cracked open a Bagley issue of Ultimate Spider-Man.

[sabetoonth]

I wouldn't mind rounded or Bagley-style eyes this time around. I'd be fine if the suit was kept more or less the same (even though there's likely to be some alterations).

And though I might be alone in this, if they wanted to make things a bit different, I wouldn't mind if they tried to use a version of the Alex Ross design for the suit in the original film.
thats an interesting idea, lean it more towards the classic suit, but with some slight elements of the Ross design, lik maybe the way he shaped the red on the torso
Wow... I forgot how big Bagley made the eyes. It's been a couple months since I cracked open a Bagley issue of Ultimate Spider-Man.
I know how big Bagely's eyes are, and they way theyre shaped which i think would look cool on film

[Michellemabelle]

I don't mind it, I'd actually be cool with it. I just forgot how big they looked.

[Chris Wallace]

I know how big Bagely's eyes are, and they way theyre shaped which i think would look cool on film
I doubt it.

[Wams]

[QUOTE=thorstone;17933394]http://sfstory.free.fr/images/Spiderman/spiderman1024.jpg

I'm assuming they will ditch the red and blue and create a darker Spiderman like Alex Ross' design, black and red with black lenses (sans web shooters).
[QUOTE]

That ain't no Ross design ^

It's Williams........:word:
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs12/i/2006/312/1/2/Spider_Man_Pre_Movie_costume__by_MalottPro.jpg

But they should go more Romita Sr. style for me.:woot:

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/174/5/5/The_Amazing_Spiderman_by_BroHawk.jpg

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/174/0/f/Spidey_snap_shot_by_BroHawk.jpg

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/198/c/f/Ol_Webhead_by_BroHawk.jpg

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs22/f/2009/238/6/e/Romita_Spider_Man_Costume_2_by_MalottPro.jpg

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs12/i/2006/312/7/b/Spider_Man_Comic_Costume_2_by_MalottPro.jpg

[Vakanai]

I don't know if it has been mentioned yet, but I'd like to see the so called 'web-pits' this time around. It's different, and if done well can look pretty good.

[Gamma Goliath]

Lol. Trust me, its been mentioned

[sabetoonth]

i dont know why this popped in, but a Spider-Man 2099 movie could be cool, ive always loved the suit

[Gamma Goliath]

I think an animated version of that spidey would be cool.

[Troy_Parker]

[QUOTE=thorstone;17933394]http://sfstory.free.fr/images/Spiderman/spiderman1024.jpg

I'm assuming they will ditch the red and blue and create a darker Spiderman like Alex Ross' design, black and red with black lenses (sans web shooters).
[QUOTE]

That ain't no Ross design ^

It's Williams........:word:
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs12/i/2006/312/1/2/Spider_Man_Pre_Movie_costume__by_MalottPro.jpg

But they should go more Romita Sr. style for me.:woot:

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/174/5/5/The_Amazing_Spiderman_by_BroHawk.jpg

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/174/0/f/Spidey_snap_shot_by_BroHawk.jpg

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/198/c/f/Ol_Webhead_by_BroHawk.jpg

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs22/f/2009/238/6/e/Romita_Spider_Man_Costume_2_by_MalottPro.jpg

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs12/i/2006/312/7/b/Spider_Man_Comic_Costume_2_by_MalottPro.jpg

No offence to anyone who likes it but that Alex Ross suit really is an abomination... especially after seeing that picture of the suit in real life, urgh... it just looks creepy... doesn't scream "Friendly Neighborhood" anything. lol

[Chris Wallace]

i dont know why this popped in, but a Spider-Man 2099 movie could be cool, ive always loved the suit

I disagree on both counts.
@ Vakani; it has been discussed at length, both in the positive and the negative. I think it could work but many disagree.

[NotSoLongAgo]

can somoeone post that pic where its spidey clinging on a wall its drawn in a 3D type way. It has that Marvel.com banner on the bottom I think, it looks like its inspired by romita or maybe even done by romita. Hopefully you know what im talking about. Oh and it looks as if theres a 'flash' from a camera on him.

[Pac-Master]

can somoeone post that pic where its spidey clinging on a wall its drawn in a 3D type way. It has that Marvel.com banner on the bottom I think, it looks like its inspired by romita or maybe even done by romita. Hopefully you know what im talking about. Oh and it looks as if theres a 'flash' from a camera on him.

Was it this?

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/774/alexrossspiderman.jpg

[Spidey220987]

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/174/0/f/Spidey_snap_shot_by_BroHawk.jpg







:wow: :hrt:

[sabetoonth]

Adjust the eyes a bit and i wouldnt mind that one

[Chris Wallace]

Liking the semi-raised webbing.

[sabetoonth]

Maybe if the eyes laid a little more horizontal

[Chris Wallace]

I think they could stand to be slightly bigger as well.

[sabetoonth]

in proportion to the black i agree

[Chris Wallace]

That's what I mean. The eyes are the only part that looks truly ameteurish.

[sabetoonth]

Yea, with that changed I'd totally dig the costume.

[Spider-Vader]

Why do you guys have to keep quoting these large pics?

I really like that fan made Spidey costume in the white room above though.

[mre]

As far as I can tell, the "reboot costume" will look pretty much how Spidey's costume always looked.

The only difference between the movie costume and the comics, is the spider on the back. Maybe the reboot costume will have the comic spider on the back instead?

[socool]

As far as I can tell, the "reboot costume" will look pretty much how Spidey's costume always looked.

The only difference between the movie costume and the comics, is the spider on the back. Maybe the reboot costume will have the comic spider on the back instead?

tell from what?

[mre]

Yeah I should re-phrase that.

By the looks of it from this thread, fans want/foresee zero changes from the original suit. The focus seems to be on the eyes.
The Spidey suit in the movies, and in cartoons, is usually virtually untouched. I expect no less in this "reboot" movie.

[socool]

Yeah I should re-phrase that.

By the looks of it from this thread, fans want/foresee zero changes from the original suit. The focus seems to be on the eyes.
The Spidey suit in the movies, and in cartoons, is usually virtually untouched. I expect no less in this "reboot" movie.

oh, dam. i thought you had inside sources or something :p

[sabetoonth]

We all wish lol

[NotSoLongAgo]

Was it this?

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/774/alexrossspiderman.jpg
Thats the one I love this design.
The eyes mostly.
I'd like to see more spaced out webbing like on the SSM suit.
And maybe different Spiders because i've always thought the originals looked kinda cheesy.

[Chris Wallace]

Yeah I should re-phrase that.

By the looks of it from this thread, fans want/foresee zero changes from the original suit. The focus seems to be on the eyes.
The Spidey suit in the movies, and in cartoons, is usually virtually untouched. I expect no less in this "reboot" movie.

The focus varies as the thread progresses. Some people focus on the lenses, (some want bigger, some want smaller) some on the webbing, (as in raised or flat, silver or black) some on the symbols. And that's not taking into account the ones who want something RADICALLY different (like that black & red monstroaity that people keep pushing for) or who want a more "realistic" approach. (People REALLY need to stop citing "Kick-Ass" as a reference.) I honestly can't think of a single aspect that I personally WANT changed, so it's hard for me to form an opinion.

[sabetoonth]

I'd just take the previous movie costume and round off the lenses

[UltimateJustin]

In don't want him in a small eyes costume if he's really going to fight Krakter in this one.

[Spidey_62]

I'd just take the previous movie costume and round off the lenses
You mean like this early movie suit?

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/6786/earlymoviecostume.png

[Octoberist]

That Alex Ross painting above is perfect.

[sabetoonth]

You mean like this early movie suit?

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/6786/earlymoviecostume.png
incredibly close, but have the top curve just as much into it as on the botom

[Spidey_62]

incredibly close, but have the top curve just as much into it as on the botom
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3219/earlymoviecostumeedit.png

I just tried to see what it would look like by doing a quick edit in MS Paint; so this isn't the best try.

[sabetoonth]

That actualy doesnt look bad, not what i mean not not bad

[Chris Wallace]

In don't want him in a small eyes costume if he's really going to fight Krakter in this one.

Who?:huh:

[Octoberist]

You know..THE Famous KRAKTER!

[Spider-Vader]

Who?:huh:

Check the "Too Many Villains" thread to find out who the mighty Krakter is. :oldrazz:

[sabetoonth]

I need to find the thread, someone link me!

[SpeterMan3]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=340083&page=3

[sabetoonth]

Danke

[david icke]

The thing is, I have seen that Alex Ross image used as an example of what folk would like to see in a movie, but...that *is* what we got in the movies already, just adapted with raised webbing so that the webs lines on the fabric are as distinct as the black lines in artwork such as that.
and as shown above, they did try the rounded eyes, but they were not as cool looking as the design we got. The rounded eyes do not look as good when made of a solid material.
The Alex Ross image does not even look like a guy in a costume, it looks like a guy who has had body painting done, so i am quite glad we are looking at him from that angle.

[WeaponXProject]

Thats the one I love this design.
The eyes mostly.
I'd like to see more spaced out webbing like on the SSM suit.
And maybe different Spiders because i've always thought the originals looked kinda cheesy.


Exactly what I was thinking.

[Chris Wallace]

The thing is, I have seen that Alex Ross image used as an example of what folk would like to see in a movie, but...that *is* what we got in the movies already, just adapted with raised webbing so that the webs lines on the fabric are as distinct as the black lines in artwork such as that.
and as shown above, they did try the rounded eyes, but they were not as cool looking as the design we got. The rounded eyes do not look as good when made of a solid material.
The Alex Ross image does not even look like a guy in a costume, it looks like a guy who has had body painting done, so i am quite glad we are looking at him from that angle.

Most comic book images look like a guy with bodypaint. You should check out some works by Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell.

[david icke]

Most comic book images look like a guy with bodypaint. You should check out some works by Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell.

Yeah, you are right, and I will check out those artists, cheers. I suppose I was just thinking out loud about how it's easy enough to post up a great piece of artwork and say 'I'd like it like that.', and another thing to try and realise that in reality. And I think we pretty much got that Spider-man outfit about as good as it's going to get.
but, you can change some things, like the shape of the eyes, the spider on the back.

If they ever did the black suit Spider-man again, I'd like them to go for the big white spider, but keep the raised webbing for texture, try and integrate them like they did with Venom's suit in 3.

[The Slang]

The movie suit was not THE real world equivalent of the comic design. It could be interpreted many ways.
http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae319/slanguaj/marvel_alex_spiderman.jpg
Although this isn't an actual mask, it's a sculpture and it exists in three dimensions. a mask like this would be a closer representation of the 2d spider-man art, and look much better in my opinion.
http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae319/slanguaj/ghdr.jpg
I understand why alot of people like the alex ross design. I've done a quick (and sloppy) MS paint edit of the pic to make it more like the orginal costume. Wouldn't mind seeing a costume made to these specifications. I think the bulging eyes might look good with white in the middle. What I like most about the original picture though, is that the costume looks simple, inexpensive and tactical. It looks like you can move in it. The gloves while not skin tight, and clearly divided from the sleeve do not look oversized or draw too much attention to themselves. It's easier to believe there could be a webshooter under it. I'd like to see a similar approach taken with the belt. Make it thin, but give it SOME width and distance from the skin. Just to humour the idea that there might be something stored in it.

[Chris Wallace]

Is that a utility belt?
BTW-Alex's design had NO back emblem.

[The Slang]

Well that or the red fabric band around his waist that has always covered his utility belt. I wouldn't mind if it was external (provided they give it a sleek, red, one-piece look), but either way he has always worn a belt and it should probably extend atleast an inch from his body. The belt is just a row of small compartments containing cartidges, or perhaps just a row of cartidges themselves, ready to be detatched from the band. If they were to consider making his wrist coverings red metal or plastic like in the pic above, then I think an external belt of the same colour/material would fit nicely. If you keep the suits web pattern consistant on the belt/wrists it would simply look like a more detailed version of the original design. But you'd have a modern gymnast-like suit with compact hardware attatched. Fit for a true vigilante.

[The Slang]

double post.

But my point is, the 70s show and such made the external webshooters/belt look stupid, because they were bulky and silver, drawing alot of attention to themselves. But if we were to reconsider them as sleek, miniature devices, coloured red, then it could be different. It could still be interchangeable with the comic art, if you consider the art a simplified version of a real life object.

[NotSoLongAgo]

No, we need to stop bringing all this real-life stuff into the equation, its Spider-man I want the costume to be Spider-freaking-Man not to be updated to real world just because some people think its kewl and realistic.

[sabetoonth]

mucho agreedo

[Chris Wallace]

double post.

But my point is, the 70s show and such made the external webshooters/belt look stupid, because they were bulky and silver, drawing alot of attention to themselves. But if we were to reconsider them as sleek, miniature devices, coloured red, then it could be different. It could still be interchangeable with the comic art, if you consider the art a simplified version of a real life object.

I don't want them external at all. Nothing should be interfering with the look of Spider-Man, certainly not outboard tech, and certainly not for the sake of realism. I am completely in agreement with sabe and not so long on that.

[Pac-Master]

I don't want them external at all. Nothing should be interfering with the look of Spider-Man, certainly not outboard tech, and certainly not for the sake of realism. I am completely in agreement with sabe and not so long on that.

Agreed.

[The Slang]

I'm confused. Aside from the black, didn't that look just like Spider-man? And am I the only one who imagined spider-man existing in a real world setting? I mean, this isn't loony toons. I don't expect spider-man to get shot in the face and have his mask spin backwards after turning black.
Is the issue that you want him to look like a naked man in body paint? Spider-man has webshooters and a belt... with utilities. Whether they're under the fabric or not, I'd like to see a live action costume allow some miniscule space in the wrist/waist area.

In my opinion it'd be a less noticeable alteration than the the raised silver webbing.

[2-XL]

The movie suit was not THE real world equivalent of the comic design. It could be interpreted many ways.
http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae319/slanguaj/marvel_alex_spiderman.jpg
Although this isn't an actual mask, it's a sculpture and it exists in three dimensions. a mask like this would be a closer representation of the 2d spider-man art, and look much better in my opinion.
http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae319/slanguaj/ghdr.jpg
I understand why alot of people like the alex ross design. I've done a quick (and sloppy) MS paint edit of the pic to make it more like the orginal costume. Wouldn't mind seeing a costume made to these specifications. I think the bulging eyes might look good with white in the middle. What I like most about the original picture though, is that the costume looks simple, inexpensive and tactical. It looks like you can move in it. The gloves while not skin tight, and clearly divided from the sleeve do not look oversized or draw too much attention to themselves. It's easier to believe there could be a webshooter under it. I'd like to see a similar approach taken with the belt. Make it thin, but give it SOME width and distance from the skin. Just to humour the idea that there might be something stored in it.

Are there any bigger pics of the costume on the right?

[Spidey_62]

Are there any bigger pics of the costume on the right?
He said he just edited it in paint.

[Chris Wallace]

I'm confused. Aside from the black, didn't that look just like Spider-man? And am I the only one who imagined spider-man existing in a real world setting? I mean, this isn't loony toons. I don't expect spider-man to get shot in the face and have his mask spin backwards after turning black.
Is the issue that you want him to look like a naked man in body paint? Spider-man has webshooters and a belt... with utilities. Whether they're under the fabric or not, I'd like to see a live action costume allow some miniscule space in the wrist/waist area.

In my opinion it'd be a less noticeable alteration than the the raised silver webbing.

No, it doesn't look just like Spider-Man. It looks like a cheaply made knock-off of Spider-Man. Loose gloves & boots (which I will forever hate thanks to the TV series) are simply not a part of Spider-Man's look, nor are they necessary. Spider-Man's costume has always had the appearance of a solid, one-piece uniform and there's no reason to change that. To do so would make it look sloppy. And what need is there to do that, simply to justify devices that 1-serve no actual purpose, and 2-we don't even know for sure will be used? Let's just say he has webshooters. If we see him take off a skin-tight glove and reveal this streamlined bracelet, who's gonna cry foul? If he lifts up his shirt and pulls a web cartridge out of a perfectly concealed utility belt, is that somehow going to ruin the movie? I don't think so. Look at Keaton's Batman suit. Did it matter that there was no way in hell his belt could have held all those gadgets? No. We suspended disbelief and just enjoyed the movie. I still maintain I would rather Spidey looked cool than practical.

[Doctor Jones]

Agreed. Spider-Man's costume is simple enough. But that doesn't mean I don't want to see a home made looking costume we've seen here. I want a professional movie costume that looks damn cool. Spider-Man just isn't made for realism. Now you have to pull it in the real world for it to look good on screen, like they did in the films, but they got the costume right because it stayed true and they didn't over complicate it. Just brought it to real life.

[The Slang]

No, it doesn't look just like Spider-Man. It looks like a cheaply made knock-off of Spider-Man. Loose gloves & boots (which I will forever hate thanks to the TV series) are simply not a part of Spider-Man's look, nor are they necessary. Spider-Man's costume has always had the appearance of a solid, one-piece uniform and there's no reason to change that. To do so would make it look sloppy. And what need is there to do that, simply to justify devices that 1-serve no actual purpose, and 2-we don't even know for sure will be used? Let's just say he has webshooters. If we see him take off a skin-tight glove and reveal this streamlined bracelet, who's gonna cry foul? If he lifts up his shirt and pulls a web cartridge out of a perfectly concealed utility belt, is that somehow going to ruin the movie? I don't think so. Look at Keaton's Batman suit. Did it matter that there was no way in hell his belt could have held all those gadgets? No. We suspended disbelief and just enjoyed the movie. I still maintain I would rather Spidey looked cool than practical.

I'm not sure how all this is a reply to what I said. Who mentioned loose fitting anything? let alone boots. I never said I was opposed to the belt and shooters being concealed in the traditional fashion. It's just the alex ross design seems to have non-fabric wrist coverings. It got me thinking that they could actually be the outer casing of the webshooter. Then I started toying with the belt idea. But anyway...

In my opinion, the movie costume looked like an over financed, studio's 'jazzed up' interpretation of spider-man. Spider-man's costume is meant to look inexpensive and easily replicated. There were stories in the cartoons where people would wear their own spider-man costumes, and no one could tell the difference. The real spider-man should be able to blend into a crowd at comic con. Isn't he kind of the poor mans hero in his world? Bit of an unwanted addition in some ways? Isn't it kind of... superficial to require a flashy, shiny suit to earn your respect? Spidey should earn our respect with actions more than appearance. The suit should say 'watch out, this guys somewhat of a b grade super-hero' but with what he does in the suit, you can't really argue.
Edit: Not that I want the suit to look like crap. It'll always look kind of silly in various scenarios, regardless of quality. That should be part of the humour though.
To everyone saying spidey isn't about realism, isn't what made this character so successful that he is the most relateable to real people? That was part of stan lees approach. This is the super-hero that could be you.

[WeaponXProject]

Really? I thought they did well with the suit. It was a good translation to film in my opinion.

Perhaps they could tone it down but I don't know why. This is the same kid that creates web shooters, I'm sure he could make a costume that is jazzed up if he wanted.

[The Slang]

For me it's not a matter of if he could make it or not. It's just about preserving an aspect of the character.

Edit: And I never liked the eyes on the movie costume.

[NotSoLongAgo]

To everyone saying spidey isn't about realism, isn't what made this character so successful that he is the most relatable to real people? That was part of stan lees approach. This is the super-hero that could be you.
Yeah the character.
But everything else isn't exactly stuff that could be possible.

[The Slang]

So? What does that mean?

[Chris Wallace]

His costume NEVER looked plausible. It had reflective lenses, a very intricate design, and perfectly concealed the gadgets underneath. Who cares? Does Daredevil's suit look like a blind guy could have made it? Does Superman's costume look like it was thrown together from baby blankets? Do the Turtles look like they just found some stuff in a sewer and put it on? No. But it's about being pleasing to the eye. F*** realism. You want realism in a movie about a kid who was injected with radioactive poison and took on the abilities of a spider? And then at the same time, you're advocating the use of web-shooters, arguably THE MOST unrealistic aspect of the character?
Please.

[Chris Wallace]

In my opinion, the movie costume looked like an over financed, studio's 'jazzed up' interpretation of spider-man.

And what's wrong with that? It looked great, and that is far more important to me than believability.

Spider-man's costume is meant to look inexpensive and easily replicated.
Says who? Show me one aspect of his comic book costume that can be easily reproduced. (BTW-since numerous fans have successfully replicated his movie costume, there's a hole in your argument right there.) This isn't Kick-Ass. He should not look like some wanna-be from the Con. He should look like a classic superhero. Keep in mind that he originally designed his costume for theatricality; something that would look good on TV. NOT to look cheap and easily obtainable.

[The Slang]

What the hell? I don't think you even understand what you disagree with. I don't care about what's plausible. I'm saying what I'd like, what would be pleasing to my eye. And mind too. I want web shooters, because it's the source material. i want a more modest costume, because to me it'd be a closer representation of the source material.

[The Slang]

And I want curved eye frames, and BLACK webs on the costume because it's the source material and I like it. You're bringing up the source material to try and defend how unrealistic everything is, but at the same time you want a costume that's probably further from the source material than my ideal costume. The realism is just a coincidental convenience that might make the movie not complete mind numbing crap.

[david icke]

The suit in the books is just as idealistic as the one in the movies.
the suit is just supposed to look iconic and cool, if they were going to go with realism in the books, they would have to draw in rips on the suit and dirty smudges all the time, as soon as Spider-man got into one super-powered altercation, his suit would get a little dirty, ripped etc.
but, they understand the point is to have the suit look cool and iconic, not to have Spider-man look like a tramp after every fight he gets into.
Just as they don't want him to look like someone in fancy dress in a movie, they are concerned with making him look iconic and cool.
If you have a problem with the reality of movie costume, you have a problem with the reality of the costume as presented in the books too, but just don't know it. Your argument against the costume in the books should be exactly the same.
Hell, if you want realism, he should not be covering up his eyes with *anything*, I don't care how see-thru the material is.

edit: some of these points have already been made, but i mainly wanted to stress the fact that the costume in the books is just as 'perfect' as the movie suit.

[The Slang]

...doesn't spider-man constantly repair and clean his suit?
Obviously, I want him to look iconic and cool.
AGAIN, realism is not as important as properly representing the source material. I want him to look like he does in the book. I want him to shoot webs like he does in the book, I want everything that makes the character/world what it is... But get this, I want to believe that instead of actors, I am watching REAL people in a REAL situation. See? Actual good character development and interaction, no half baked plots.
And on another note, completely UNRELATED to realism, I would like to see a more simple costume. Because that's how I imagine the character.

[david icke]

...doesn't spider-man constantly repair and clean his suit?

I'm talking about right after a battle, generally his costume comes out looking just as perfect as it did going in, and that's because they want him looking good in the book.


Obviously, I want him to look iconic and cool.
AGAIN, realism is not as important as properly representing the source material. I want him to look like he does in the book. I want him to shoot webs like he does in the book, I want everything that makes the character/world what it is... But get this, I want to believe that instead of actors, I am watching REAL people in a REAL situation. See? Actual good character development and interaction, no half baked plots.
And on another note, completely UNRELATED to realism, I would like to see a more simple costume. Because that's how I imagine the character.

A more simple costume along the lines of the ones you posted would look like ass and would be a dis-service to the character.
Your points in this latest post are a little confusing.

You say you want a more simple costume , and that is nothing to do with realism, but to do with how you imagine the character? That just sounds like you are trying to do some fancy footwork in defining your meaning to avoid people's well made points.

and this right after stressing that you want(in EL BLOCKO CAPS NO LESS) REAL situations, so i put it to you that you are just bs-ing your way through this last point, and it is because you want a realistic simple suit, because you want some kind of cinema verite version of Spider-man, well, it ain't gonna happen that way amigo.
About the only superhero movie that has ever been made that comes close to depicting REAL people in REAL situations, is Unbreakable, every other superhero movie ever made has some kind of sheen of unreality going on, but we buy into that, accept it, and get on with the story.
You talk like you have never enjoyed a superhero movie because no-one ever farts, goes to the toilet, or makes their costumes badly with sewing machines and crappy cheapo fabrics.
I think your going to have to just go with the programme, these movies will always have a sheen of fantasy to them, with very rare exceptions like Unbreakable. and that guy just wore his normal clothes, if it were as REAL as you wanted it, spider-man wouldn't bother his arse making that kind of costume, he'd wear something along the lines of what Harry wore in SM3, sports wear.

[WeaponXProject]

I think though he might want to see it change, I doubt they will change it much. The only reason I say that is bc I've never really heard complaints about the outfit before.

[Chris Wallace]

I'm talking about right after a battle, generally his costume comes out looking just as perfect as it did going in, and that's because they want him looking good in the book.



A more simple costume along the lines of the ones you posted would look like ass and would be a dis-service to the character.
Your points in this latest post are a little confusing.

You say you want a more simple costume , and that is nothing to do with realism, but to do with how you imagine the character? That just sounds like you are trying to do some fancy footwork in defining your meaning to avoid people's well made points.and this right after stressing that you want(in EL BLOCKO CAPS NO LESS) REAL situations, so i put it to you that you are just bs-ing your way through this last point, and it is because you want a realistic simple suit, because you want some kind of cinema verite version of Spider-man, well, it ain't gonna happen that way amigo.
About the only superhero movie that has ever been made that comes close to depicting REAL people in REAL situations, is Unbreakable, every other superhero movie ever made has some kind of sheen of unreality going on, but we buy into that, accept it, and get on with the story.
You talk like you have never enjoyed a superhero movie because no-one ever farts, goes to the toilet, or makes their costumes badly with sewing machines and crappy cheapo fabrics.
I think your going to have to just go with the programme, these movies will always have a sheen of fantasy to them, with very rare exceptions like Unbreakable. and that guy just wore his normal clothes, if it were as REAL as you wanted it, spider-man wouldn't bother his arse making that kind of costume, he'd wear something along the lines of what Harry wore in SM3, sports wear.
Sounds that way to me, too. I'm responding to HIS actual words, such as "Spider-Man in a real world setting", "Spider-man's costume is meant to look inexpensive and easily replicated.", and "To everyone saying spidey isn't about realism, isn't what made this character so successful that he is the most relatable to real people? That was part of stan lees approach. This is the super-hero that could be you."
We all know that we could never be Spider-Man. We could be Kick-Ass, and get the same results that he got his first time out. But it seems like Slang is hopping from one foot to the other, advocating realism one minute and faithfulness the next. Can't do both.

[SpeterMan3]

No, it doesn't look just like Spider-Man. It looks like a cheaply made knock-off of Spider-Man. Loose gloves & boots (which I will forever hate thanks to the TV series) are simply not a part of Spider-Man's look, nor are they necessary. Spider-Man's costume has always had the appearance of a solid, one-piece uniform and there's no reason to change that. To do so would make it look sloppy. And what need is there to do that, simply to justify devices that 1-serve no actual purpose, and 2-we don't even know for sure will be used? Let's just say he has webshooters. If we see him take off a skin-tight glove and reveal this streamlined bracelet, who's gonna cry foul? If he lifts up his shirt and pulls a web cartridge out of a perfectly concealed utility belt, is that somehow going to ruin the movie? I don't think so. Look at Keaton's Batman suit. Did it matter that there was no way in hell his belt could have held all those gadgets? No. We suspended disbelief and just enjoyed the movie. I still maintain I would rather Spidey looked cool than practical.
:up:

[Spidey_62]

No, it doesn't look just like Spider-Man. It looks like a cheaply made knock-off of Spider-Man. Loose gloves & boots (which I will forever hate thanks to the TV series) are simply not a part of Spider-Man's look, nor are they necessary. Spider-Man's costume has always had the appearance of a solid, one-piece uniform and there's no reason to change that. To do so would make it look sloppy. And what need is there to do that, simply to justify devices that 1-serve no actual purpose, and 2-we don't even know for sure will be used? Let's just say he has webshooters. If we see him take off a skin-tight glove and reveal this streamlined bracelet, who's gonna cry foul? If he lifts up his shirt and pulls a web cartridge out of a perfectly concealed utility belt, is that somehow going to ruin the movie? I don't think so. Look at Keaton's Batman suit. Did it matter that there was no way in hell his belt could have held all those gadgets? No. We suspended disbelief and just enjoyed the movie. I still maintain I would rather Spidey looked cool than practical.

Darned right.

[The Slang]

But it seems like Slang is hopping from one foot to the other, advocating realism one minute and faithfulness the next. Can't do both.

If you believe that then you lack imagination. I'm not hopping foots at all, because I'm not asking for MORE realism than was in the comic. What you fail to realize is that I also would rather him look cool than 'practical' but I don't know where you got that from anyway. I DON'T think the movie suit was 'cool', something more homemade looking (more for using) would look COOLER to me. Something closer to the edited pic I posted. But You'll notice I never said I wanted the suit in the next movie to look exactly like that. For one, the red material looks wrong. The first picture is closer to what I'd want to see in a movie. You know the sculpture, the one you completely ignored? Isn't that an example of something both simpler (which you seem to associate with this realism concept of yours) and more faithful to the design? Yet you claim we can't have both. And since you decided to bring the webshooters into it, check out dragons post in the organics vs mechs thread. You use realism as an argument against mechanical webshooters, yet you support organics which are even less realistic. And I'm hopping foots?

[sabetoonth]

its hopping feet dude

[Chris Wallace]

When have I ever used realism as an argument against mechs? I specifically said screw realism. I am neither anti-webshooter NOR anti-organic. In fact, one of my last posts on the thread said that I see nothing wrong with EITHER web source.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ This. I feel the same way. The organics worked great in Raimi's films, so I don't mind if they're used here.

[rahan]

The movie suit was not THE real world equivalent of the comic design. It could be interpreted many ways.

Although this isn't an actual mask, it's a sculpture and it exists in three dimensions. a mask like this would be a closer representation of the 2d spider-man art, and look much better in my opinion.
.
I don't think that would cut it, That sculpture looks very close to the Nick Hammond costume and nah, that just ain't right for a big budget Spidey.

[Chris Wallace]

^^ This. I feel the same way. The organics worked great in Raimi's films, so I don't mind if they're used here.

I am neither anti-mechs (How can you be a devoted Spidey fan for 30+ years if you are?) NOR am I anti-organics (although initially I would.) I am anti-uber-realism, though. And I'm against people using real world semantics to justify their position either way. Mechanical webshooters are impossible, shooting silk out of your wrists is impossible. Why argue about which is MORE impossible?
Anyways, let's get back on topic. Webshooters have nothing to do with the design of the costume unless A-they're worn on the outside of the gloves, or B-the gloves are given a bulge to justify their presence, and I'm against both of these.

[sabetoonth]

Unless its the Scarlet Spider suit, webshooters are inside

[White_Knight191]

http://www466.pair.com/mringo/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/spidermanillo.jpg Something like this

[TheShah]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5652/asmfamily001cov.jpg


The costume was awesome, but I don't think they'd keep it the same.

I like this, most specifically because it makes it look how a costume made at home by a kid would look.
Also the loose movement of the fabric on his mouth humanizes the mask where you can see him speak and get more sense of his expressions that the movies couldn't do versus the comics.

The mask in the movies didn't account AT ALL for expressions.
Where as the comics, the eyes, were at times drawn differently to allow for SOME, expressions to seep through in certain situations.

[TheShah]

I made the lenses a tad bigger and angular. Emphasized the black outline on them and Brighten and the costume a bit more.

http://i46.tinypic.com/23ha8b9.jpg

But to be completely honest, there's no way i could really improves Raimi and Co.'s Spidey costume.


A very minor change, but honestly, the face already looks better with the rounded eyes and the enhanced black.

[Chris Wallace]

http://www466.pair.com/mringo/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/spidermanillo.jpg Something like this

That's probably the best Wieringo Spidey I've ever seen.

[Doctor Jones]

I don't want the webs under his arms. What is the ****ing point of them?

[spiderfan970]

What is the point of anything in superhero comics besides looking cool?

[spider-neil]

I don't want the webs under his arms. What is the ****ing point of them?


what's the point of the flash's golden 'ear wings', or cap's little white wings, or batman's pointy ears? none of these serve any purpose or are practical, they just look good

[Mace Bloodstone]

I don't want the webs under his arms. What is the ****ing point of them?

I always thought it was to help him glide like a flying squirrel.

[sabetoonth]

I never liked the pit webs

[Casius--J]

I never liked the pit webs

Neither did I but over the years they grew on me and now I love them! But I dont think they'll work in the movie, think it would probably look too goofy.

[Chris Wallace]

I always thought it was to help him glide like a flying squirrel.

Nope. Only Spider-Woman had that function, up until the dreaded "sidekick suit" that Iron Man gave him. They were purely a decoration prior to that, and that's all they should ever be. I actually wouldn't mind seeing them if they were done right. If an attempt were made to give them a practical function like gliding I'd be against it. I also used to worry that either they'd bunch up or sag when he lowered his arms (See the "New Fantastic Four" story arc with him, Hulk, Wolverine & Ghost Rider for an example of this) or restrict his movement, both of which can be easily prevented with the right materials. I know that generally speaking, it's impractical, which is why you never see it on anly live action incarnation and VERY FEW animated version. But if they were included and reasonably subtle, i.e. small like on Spectacular or barely visible like in Alex Ross' renderings, I think I'd like it.

[Young Superman]

At least most of us seen too agree that the webbing on the costume should be black instead of raised silver.

[Chris Wallace]

Not really; I'd say about half.

[TheShah]

what's the point of the flash's golden 'ear wings', or cap's little white wings, or batman's pointy ears? none of these serve any purpose or are practical, they just look good

Well one of the potrayals in BATMAN BEGINS for the pointy ears, were that he could hide antennae and other transmitters there, to pick up signals, maginified hearing, etc.

You see him surveiling Rachel as a bum, and having to hide a big ass antennae behind a hood, but it still looked awkward.
Then later you see him hiding a similar device inside the pointed bat ears, so make it not stick out as it would normally.

[Chris Wallace]

Prior to/outside of BB, they have no real purpose. Especially when many artists draw them about 1/8 inch long.
The point is, it's still just a decoration, like chest symbols, belts that don't carry anything, trunks and a myriad other accessories that aren't truly needed. Once you start dwelling on what PURPOSE a costume element serves, you start thinking like the "Ultimate"/"realism" crowd, who want to do away with anything and everything that makes superheroes look like superheroes.

[TheShah]

Prior to/outside of BB, they have no real purpose. Especially when many artists draw them about 1/8 inch long.
The point is, it's still just a decoration, like chest symbols, belts that don't carry anything, trunks and a myriad other accessories that aren't truly needed. Once you start dwelling on what PURPOSE a costume element serves, you start thinking like the "Ultimate"/"realism" crowd, who want to do away with anything and everything that makes superheroes look like superheroes.

Oh I agree.
At the same time though, there's certain things that look cool, but not unnecessary... while others look good but take away from the entire image because of how pointless and decorative they are.

But that's just.
That's why the hardest thing to do is recreate a comic book costume in a movie.
Sometimes, certain things work in a comic book world that in real life would just be pure 'WTF' moments.

[Troy_Parker]

Wasn't there atleast one Amazing Spider-Man (a recent issue) where the suit looked almost exactly like the movie one? the Spider symbol, the eyes, raised webbing... the whole deal.

Edit: http://www.comicsbulletin.com/news/images/0709/AmazingSpiderMan549Cover.jpg

...On second thought, the eye frames look slightly curved... more like the originals.

[sabetoonth]

That suit i like a lot, but i cant tell if the suit is black webbing, or silver, i dont mind riased, but i want black webbing

[Chris Wallace]

I'm pretty sure it's silver in that image.

[Troy_Parker]

^ Yup. They used the movie suit as a basis for that issue, I guess.

[I Am Jack's...]

I really like the look of this suit, don't know if it's been posted before:

http://www.milesteves.com/gallery/d/1404-3/Spiderman-04.jpg

I'd like it if the eyes were a bit smaller, but other than that, I dig it. Raised, black webbing is the way to go :up:

[Doctor Jones]

Change the spider merging with the webs, make the edges of the red on his wrists straighter, take the red stripe going down his leg, and make the eyes smaller and there you go.

[mre]

See, I like the way they did the spider, and the webs here. But I agree, it would look cooler with smaller eyes. And the stripes on the legs definitely have to go. Never noticed those before.

[I Am Jack's...]

I actually like the way the chest-spider blends with the webs. It's a cool spin on it IMO. But I agree with the stripe being removed.

I really, really like the shape of the eye itself, it just needs to be a tad smaller.

[Troy_Parker]

Is that stripe there to make the whole thing give off the illusion of a one-piece? xD

[Spider-Dude]

Anyone got some cool Carnage pics?

[TheWallCrawler]

the suit definitely needs to be slick, unlike in the raimi movies, so less padding this time, I don't want to see another chubby spidey.
It doesn't need to look so realistic that a teen ager could make it, but I don't want it like "straight out of a comic book" either.

[Brian Braddock]

I think we can all agree that this is clearly the way to go:-

http://www.milanoo.com/closeout/Lycra-Spandex-Purple-Spider-Spiderman-Costume-Zentai-outfit-with-Black-Stripes-module-item-id-3179.html

:D

[White_Knight191]

I like this buth only change the eyes.
http://prettythings.pullbot.com/artworks/464428/adigranov-amazing-spider-man-610_large.jpg

[Jaxxon]

^Spider-Man vs. Nick Nolte? lol

[White_Knight191]

http://www.adigranov.net/art/1273602542_ASM552coverF.jpg
http://www.adigranov.net/art/1273602805_SpiderMenaceF.jpg
http://www.adigranov.net/art/1273601419_SpideyCoverAG.jpg
I like these but only make the eyes bigger.

[KalMart]

I thought the one they used for the past three films is fine and works quite well on the screen. So unless the absolutely have to change it to differentiate it from those movies, they should stick with it. At least keep the texture/raised web pattern, even if they'll go with more black-colored webbing.

[echostation]

I love the above shots of the more home styled costume with the flat eye lenses. The only thing is is will they make him have webs under his arms and his crotch? I Hope to GOD they dont' do that... especially the stupid look of putting webs under the arms... who was the artist who thought of that craptastic idea?

[Troy_Parker]

http://www.adigranov.net/art/1273602542_ASM552coverF.jpg
http://www.adigranov.net/art/1273602805_SpiderMenaceF.jpg
http://www.adigranov.net/art/1273601419_SpideyCoverAG.jpg
I like these but only make the eyes bigger.

These are just simply amazing.

THIS is what should be on screen with some minor changes...

Such as;

Make the suit out of a different material, I'm not sure the skin tight spandex look will look 'cool' enough to be taken seriously in an actual live action movie.

AND... for Gods sake, make the eyes bigger. :awesome:

[TimBisley]

I don't know, I'm kind of liking the smaller eyes. Makes him look more creepy.

[socool]

http://www.adigranov.net/art/1273601419_SpideyCoverAG.jpg

This is almost perfect. Just change the spider and I'm happy.

[Troy_Parker]

I don't know, I'm kind of liking the smaller eyes. Makes him look more creepy.

Yeah.

Tbh, I think if they're going in a more 'gritty' direction... there probably going to end up with the smaller eye lenses, which isn't actually such a bad thing. :woot:

[sabetoonth]

I like this buth only change the eyes.
http://prettythings.pullbot.com/artworks/464428/adigranov-amazing-spider-man-610_large.jpg
Is that....Kaine?

[Spidey_62]

Is that....Kaine?
Yep.

[Young Superman]

http://www.adigranov.net/art/1273602542_ASM552coverF.jpg
http://www.adigranov.net/art/1273602805_SpiderMenaceF.jpg
http://www.adigranov.net/art/1273601419_SpideyCoverAG.jpg
I like these but only make the eyes bigger.

Agreed

[sabetoonth]

Yep.
Kaine fan here :up:

[Doctor Jones]

I don't know, I'm kind of liking the smaller eyes. Makes him look more creepy.

What part of "Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man" don't you understand? :huh:

[mre]

What part of "Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man" don't you understand? :huh:

Spider-Man is supposed to have a creepy element about him. He's based off of a spider.

[socool]

What part of "Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man" don't you understand? :huh:

The eyes don't change that.

Now if he was like Batman...

[Mace Bloodstone]

The eyes kinda make it look like a Ninja Spidey suit, it's growing on me.

[sabetoonth]

I prefer bigger eyes

[My User Name]

And a bigger spider emblem.

[Chris Wallace]

http://www.adigranov.net/art/1273602542_ASM552coverF.jpg
http://www.adigranov.net/art/1273602805_SpiderMenaceF.jpg
http://www.adigranov.net/art/1273601419_SpideyCoverAG.jpg
I like these but only make the eyes bigger.

I don't care for the visible ear bulges.

[Troy_Parker]

^ Well if someone went ahead and put on a mask like that...

that's what you'd have. Lol

Unless they go with the face-shell thing... which I hated.

[Mace Bloodstone]

I know it's just a movie so don't yell at me.. Now is the material just made out of cloth? Wouldn't he need a new suit every week from it getting tore up. Wouldn't something like scuba material be more efficient for fighting?

[Chris Wallace]

^ Well if someone went ahead and put on a mask like that...

that's what you'd have. Lol

Unless they go with the face-shell thing... which I hated.

I refer you to my sig.
Maguire wore a foam headpiece underneath his mask, for a more uniform look.
@Crowfx; He's not Kick-Ass and therefore should not be wearing a wetsuit. Keep in mind that his costume was designed for show, not for practicality, and I will also refer YOU to my sig. His suit does get ripped up on the regular-it got trashed in all 3 movies, which is why (in the comics) he has spares.

[sabetoonth]

In the first movie it was lycra the suit was made from, so im assuming they would keep with that in this film becuase even BW had a lycra suit i think, so the material isnt outdated

EDIT: Chris Love the Sig addition

[Troy_Parker]

Edit: I was thinking about the Kick-Ass suit. xD

...But wasn't it Neoprene?

[BrollySupersj]

I say bring back the best suit of them all!

http://cdn1.ioffer.com/img/item/120/423/759/9nwZkxDW8viYAnW.jpg

:p

[Troy_Parker]

That suit gets uglier and uglier everytime I see it.

XD

[BrollySupersj]

That suit gets uglier and uglier everytime I see it.

XD

Same with Superman IV, I'm probably the only person IN THE WORD that genuinely enjoys that old Spider-Man TV show.:doh:

[Chris Wallace]

EDIT: Chris Love the Sig addition

You've made that pretty clear, I think. :cwink:

[Chris Wallace]

I say bring back the best suit of them all!

http://cdn1.ioffer.com/img/item/120/423/759/9nwZkxDW8viYAnW.jpg

:p
....

(crickets chirping)

[Spider-Who?]

I refer you to my sig.
Maguire wore a foam headpiece underneath his mask, for a more uniform look.

It was a hard shell head piece. And it only covered the front of his face. The "ear bulges" were visible, but slightly hidden by the webbing.

I personally would prefer that they DO NOT use a face shell if they can avoid it - I want to be able to see the mouth and jaw movements underneath the costume (but not to the extent of say, Kick Ass). For one, its more realistic (and I don't mean that in a TDK fan boy way); two, it makes the character feel more alive being able to see mouth/jaw movements when he talks; and three, i HATED every time when Spidey said or yelled something, and the jaw never moved in the originals. Took me right out of the flicks.


If Andrew's face shape requires some type of molding to get the correct shape, here's what I would suggest:

A half faced shell that goes from the forehead to the nose, then a soft appliance that attaches separately to the chin/lower jaw with make up adhesive. This way, they can get the shape they're looking for, but are not impeding any jaw and mouth movements.

[sabetoonth]

It took me til SM3 before i noticed he never moved his jaw in costume

[Spider-Who?]

What part of "Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man" don't you understand? :huh:
its his personality that makes him the "friendly neighborhood spider-man".

I don't want huge eyes to make him look like a FNSM, because then, you'd just need someone to sharpie in a mouth and he'd be running around looking like this:

:awesome:

But in the same vein, I don't like the super small eyes. There is a happy medium.

[Spider-Who?]

It took me til SM3 before i noticed he never moved his jaw in costume
really?!?!?! oh man, it bugged the hell outta me. I think there was ONCE where they showed the jaw move, and it was a cgi shot when he loses his powers while swinging in the 2nd flick.

[sabetoonth]

I am not the most observent person when it comes to that kinda stuff, i didnt even notice a camera in shot on an episode of Supernatural

[Chris Wallace]

The jaw thing never mattered to me at all. It matters in cartoons, not so much in movies.

[Spider-Who?]

The jaw thing never mattered to me at all. It matters in cartoons, not so much in movies.

i would have to respectfully disagree.

[Chris Wallace]

Understandable.

[Troy_Parker]

I hated how his jaw never moved... reminded me of Power Rangers when they used to wave their hands around like idiots because you couldn't see who was talking. :/

Honestly, a mask shell piece thing ISN'T neccessary, at all.

[El Payaso]

Same with Superman IV, I'm probably the only person IN THE WORD that genuinely enjoys that old Spider-Man TV show.:doh:

You and me both. I still love it.

[Doctor Jones]

I often think about the jaw movement. It can't move excessively or it would be distracting.

They used the false jaw to make his jaw more prominant under the mask. They're probably gonna do the same.

[Gamma Goliath]

It needs motion, imo.

[Ajendo]

I hated how his jaw never moved... reminded me of Power Rangers when they used to wave their hands around like idiots because you couldn't see who was talking. :/

Honestly, a mask shell piece thing ISN'T neccessary, at all.

lol I so get what you mean with the PR thing. All the exaggerated nodding and every time they waved or moved a limb, you could hear the sound of cutting wind. Utterly ridiculous.

[NotSoLongAgo]

One of the reasons they used the face shell was because the lycra's so tight you could see the bulge of lips. But like someone said, if they can do it so the mouth part is separated from the rest of the face, it would be good.

[Spider-Who?]

I often think about the jaw movement. It can't move excessively or it would be distracting.

They used the false jaw to make his jaw more prominant under the mask. They're probably gonna do the same.

yeah, but it was pretty much useless since the way it was built, it would only be seen if he opened his mouth really wide, which he never did. I still think my idea would work.

[Patron12]

i think they can use the molded jaw and still have it look good in motion
im pretty sure they did the same thing with Rorschach in Watchmen, and that looked pretty natural when he talked

[Gamma Goliath]

Yeah all I want is that natural look.

[Oscorp]

i think they can use the molded jaw and still have it look good in motion
im pretty sure they did the same thing with Rorschach in Watchmen, and that looked pretty natural when he talked

Yeah, something like that would be great I think

[Doctor Jones]

There's a difference between what's natural, realism and what looks good. Kubrick said, "It's real, but it's not interesting." The quote may seem like a bigger idea than this whole mask thing, but it's true. Go with what looks good. You can think of function and such, but if it doesn't look good, than it's not as interesting. Like Spider-Man's costume. I don't want to see a literal look of a kid putting it together himself. We're not suppose to care about how he made it. What we're suppose to care about is that it looks good.

[Oscorp]

Great post! I just don't think those guys who want the suit look "realistic", like actually plausibly made by a teenager, really understand how ugly it would look on screen.

[El Payaso]

There's a difference between what's natural, realism and what looks good. Kubrick said, "It's real, but it's not interesting." The quote may seem like a bigger idea than this whole mask thing, but it's true. Go with what looks good. You can think of function and such, but if it doesn't look good, than it's not as interesting. Like Spider-Man's costume. I don't want to see a literal look of a kid putting it together himself. We're not suppose to care about how he made it. What we're suppose to care about is that it looks good.

Oh, I'd love to quote you on the Superman Costume thread about Martha Kent sewing the suit for Clark. I feel the same as you about the subject.

[Chris Wallace]

There's a difference between what's natural, realism and what looks good. Kubrick said, "It's real, but it's not interesting." The quote may seem like a bigger idea than this whole mask thing, but it's true. Go with what looks good. You can think of function and such, but if it doesn't look good, than it's not as interesting. Like Spider-Man's costume. I don't want to see a literal look of a kid putting it together himself. We're not suppose to care about how he made it. What we're suppose to care about is that it looks good.

Exactly. What sense would there be in scaling back to amateur hour?

[Spider-Dude]

Anyone got some really cool Carnage pics?

[Chris Wallace]

Not the place for it.

[Doctor Jones]

Oh, I'd love to quote you on the Superman Costume thread about Martha Kent sewing the suit for Clark. I feel the same as you about the subject.

My God, people actually think this should happen? :huh:

:lmao:

And dude, if you quote me it's fine. :woot:

Ooohhh, God. Batman can get away with stuff like this. Because he's about one of the only characters who's possible to become and plausible things to happen. But characters like Spidey and Superman? Not a chance in hell. I mean seriously, who gives a rats ass at how those two got the costume in the first place?

Do people realize that if they went the "realistic" route, it would look ugly as hell on screen? Who in their right mind wants to see a Halloween costume Spider-Man swining in New York? Not me. Any sane person should realize this.

Do we absolutely have to know and show the audience how he made the costume and him wearing it to prove a stupid point that doesn't even make sense for the character? For the love of God, I actually want someone to challenge me on this. Because this seems to be important to some people. That we must see how he makes his costume and making it look like he wore it. What a goddamn time waster.

[sabetoonth]

Amen.

[Spider-Who?]

i think SM1 handled it fine. Showed him doing some sketchs, and a progression from the wrestling outfit to the offical suit. thats all that is needed, if even that.

[tnr105]

I didn't make this, but how about an amalgamation between the Raimi suit and Ben Reily's suit?

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/016/b/c/toby_maguire_as_ben_reily_by_megamike75.jpg

[Doctor Jones]

**** no. I want the Spider-Man suit. Not the Ben Reily suit. Or the suit that makes us believe a kid made it AKA Halloween costume.

[sabetoonth]

I only want Reilly weaing the Reilly suit

[Spider-Who?]

I didn't make this, but how about an amalgamation between the Raimi suit and Ben Reily's suit?

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/016/b/c/toby_maguire_as_ben_reily_by_megamike75.jpg

thats a pretty good manip, though i agree, only Ben should wear that.

[Chris Wallace]

Doesn't show, but I don't think it should happen. Reilly's suit is Spider-Girl's costume now.

[Immortalfire]

Give me the real Spider-Man costume.

And keep the damn mask on!

[BigSams50]

Great manip, but Hell No for a movie. I want the classic spiderman costume, not Reillys

[Ken-Kaniff]

Give me the real Spider-Man costume.

And keep the damn mask on!
hahahah WORD!!!

[Grillz]

I think I speak almost everyone when I say I want to see the classic Spider-Man suit, not a "raised" webbing one, not one that mixes different lokos, and as much as I'm all for orignality, not one they just pulled out of nowhere. I want my classic red/blue, "evil eyes", black threads on the suit Spider-Man. Bassically I want a John Romita costume, and before anyone says "There's one little problem...", no, if the could get Christopher Reeve to look like Superman in the 70s, they sure as hell can make a simple suit look like this:

http://www.samruby.com/AmazingSpider-ManB/Large/AmazingSpider-Man151.jpg

[Ajendo]

*high 5s Grillz*

[chaseter]

http://www.adigranov.net/art/1273602542_ASM552coverF.jpg
http://www.adigranov.net/art/1273601419_SpideyCoverAG.jpg
I like these but only make the eyes bigger.

I really, really hate this costume. The eyes are way too small...his face looks like Deadpool, the material looks like it is leather, and the webbing looks so bland...it almost looks like squares, and lastly...the spider on the chest is terrible. Oh and the color scheme is really bland. It may just be the palette that the artist choose but I want Spidey's suite to have visible blue...not that bland muted grey above.

Basically that costume makes Spider-Man look like a villain.

[sabetoonth]

Doesn't show, but I don't think it should happen. Reilly's suit is Spider-Girl's costume now.
Actually after she beat Normy Osborn the first time Pete made eher burn everything that was left over from his Spider-Man days, evenReilly's suit, May wears one she made for herself with the same design, so technincally its her suit, modeled after his

[socool]

I really, really hate this costume. The eyes are way too small...his face looks like Deadpool, the material looks like it is leather, and the webbing looks so bland...it almost looks like squares, and lastly...the spider on the chest is terrible. Oh and the color scheme is really bland. It may just be the palette that the artist choose but I want Spidey's suite to have visible blue...not that bland muted grey above.

Basically that costume makes Spider-Man look like a villain.

Really? I love it! Then again, I'm not much of one to talk. I also like the Noir costume...

[Chris Wallace]

Actually after she beat Normy Osborn the first time Pete made eher burn everything that was left over from his Spider-Man days, evenReilly's suit, May wears one she made for herself with the same design, so technincally its her suit, modeled after his

It's the design I'm referring to; not the suit itself.
And I agree with chaseter on the bland suit.

[Spectacular23]

Well personally this is the suit i want to see

http://img69.imageshack.us/i/majinbenbyomnitrix23.jpg/
Gotta kinda actually look to see the details but it's there. I like this one. Anyone agree? Disagree?

Zoom in to see the details.

[Mace Bloodstone]

Well personally this is the suit i want to see

http://img69.imageshack.us/i/majinbenbyomnitrix23.jpg/
Gotta kinda actually look to see the details but it's there. I like this one. Anyone agree? Disagree?

Zoom in to see the details.

It depends on how it would translate on real fabric. The uneven webbing could look cool or might look a mess.

[Spectacular23]

It depends on how it would translate on real fabric. The uneven webbing could look cool or might look a mess.

If they have it similar to the art picture then i think it would be cool. I mean i personally Feel the costume in the picture is more realistic.