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Gamma Goliath
09-11-2010, 12:19 AM
Messy double post

Gamma Goliath
09-11-2010, 12:20 AM
I really like that costume. The uneven webbing is neat.

If they ever use the black suit, I want it to be an all cgi costume similar to what green lantern is getting. So it will look like a living suit, or a second skin.

Spectacular23
09-11-2010, 10:25 AM
I really like that costume. The uneven webbing is neat.

If they ever use the black suit, I want it to be an all cgi costume similar to what green lantern is getting. So it will look like a living suit, or a second skin.

Yeah i like the design too. And if they do go with all black i really hope they do it right this time. With the big-ass white spider emblem. If they don't somebody getting the facepalm:facepalm:

Goran
09-11-2010, 10:50 AM
If they ever use the black suit, I want it to be an all cgi costume similar to what green lantern is getting. So it will look like a living suit, or a second skin.

I always thought of the black suit to have swirls on it, moving all over his body... something like the crazy, colorful swirls on a bubble.

Gamma Goliath
09-11-2010, 11:44 AM
I always thought it would show his definition, and look like a second skin essentially.

Spectacular23
09-11-2010, 04:07 PM
This has probabaly been discuss earlier in this thread. But i wonder what printed webbing would look like on film..:spidey:. Anybody with the idea. I mean yeah in the end i know we're gonna get a suit regardless but i would like to see Some changes. Printed black webbing sounds cool to me. But i'm not sure how that would work out on the big screen.

spidermanJLA!~
09-11-2010, 06:32 PM
All these great costumes... And Marc Webb or Sony doesn't even bother to look!!! They better not mess up this costume!!!!! Better yet, reveal it already! My impatience is growing!

P.S. That costume above is very nice! The one posted by Spectacular23, I mean.

sweetre15
09-11-2010, 06:41 PM
All these great costumes... And Marc Webb or Sony doesn't even bother to look!!! They better not mess up this costume!!!!! Better yet, reveal it already! My impatience is growing!

P.S. That costume above is very nice! The one posted by Spectacular23, I mean.


We dont know whether or not Sony and Webb are looking at these costumes but Studios do get people to lurk internet forums at times.

Spectacular23
09-11-2010, 06:43 PM
All these great costumes... And Marc Webb or Sony doesn't even bother to look!!! They better not mess up this costume!!!!! Better yet, reveal it already! My impatience is growing!

P.S. That costume above is very nice! The one posted by Spectacular23, I mean.

Ah, Thanks. And i really like to see that one i posted on the big screen. While still keeping it's bright color scheme. This would be a great movie and as far as sony taking a look. The latest we will probably get something will be either sometime in christmas or for sure after the year 2010 and into 2011.

spidermanJLA!~
09-11-2010, 06:43 PM
Hey, I sure hope they are looking. I also hope they don't believe looking on the internet is cheating or something like that.

Spectacular23
09-11-2010, 06:45 PM
Hey, I sure hope they are looking.

I'm sure they will be. Then again us Spidey fans can only hope!!! :spidey:

Young Superman
09-11-2010, 10:22 PM
How about basing the movie costume on Humberto Ramos Spider-Man Costume?
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/74997-9142-80609-1-peter-parker-spider_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/74998-9142-80610-1-peter-parker-spider_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6060/173875-9142-113657-1-peter-parker-spider_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/308/84745-38431-humberto-ramos.jpg

Spectacular23
09-11-2010, 10:23 PM
Sorry for the double post... But i feel this is worth it. Anybody wanna see this design on screen?
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/143/8856132amazingspiderman.jpg

Young Superman
09-11-2010, 10:34 PM
Sorry for the double post... But i feel this is worth it. Anybody wanna see this design on screen?
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/143/8856132amazingspiderman.jpg

Nice

sweetre15
09-11-2010, 10:35 PM
Sorry for the double post... But i feel this is worth it. Anybody wanna see this design on screen?
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/143/8856132amazingspiderman.jpg


I would

Squidboy
09-11-2010, 11:15 PM
When it comes down to Spidey, there aren't many things I can see really changing in the costume design, aside from maybe the fabrics and minor designs. The spider on his back could always be done more like the classic comic design, while his eyes are probably going to be something fans are going to debate to death until they actually see the final product. Small, big, medium - I don't really have a preference, just as long as it meshes well with the rest of the overall look. I never had a problem with Raimi's version, so I'm hoping the new franchise will take good care of Spidey as well. I wonder what people think about him having the webbing hanging under his arms in the movies? I think it'd be a ballsy move, but if done right, it could look great.

rahan
09-12-2010, 09:45 AM
I think I speak almost everyone when I say I want to see the classic Spider-Man suit, not a "raised" webbing one, not one that mixes different lokos, and as much as I'm all for orignality, not one they just pulled out of nowhere. I want my classic red/blue, "evil eyes", black threads on the suit Spider-Man. Bassically I want a John Romita costume, and before anyone says "There's one little problem...", no, if the could get Christopher Reeve to look like Superman in the 70s, they sure as hell can make a simple suit look like this:



Speak for yourself, cause I certainly don't want something like that. I want something that stays close to the original, while keeping in mind that it's not a drawing. The raised webbing and scale texture did just that, add dimension and a nice visual punch to something that would have otherwise been a pretty flat, boring and potentially cheesy costume in a live action enviroment. No downgrade for the new movie suit please, only upgrades.

rahan
09-12-2010, 09:52 AM
This has probabaly been discuss earlier in this thread. But i wonder what printed webbing would look like on film..:spidey:. Anybody with the idea. I mean yeah in the end i know we're gonna get a suit regardless but i would like to see Some changes. Printed black webbing sounds cool to me. But i'm not sure how that would work out on the big screen.
Well, you can search for a pic of the Nicholas Hammond suit, or the japanese Spidey suit that's pretty much what printed webbing on the suit looks like.

http://www.moviecatcher.net/images/spiderman-strikes-back1.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gfGtGdgPKLw/ScIt1WIDljI/AAAAAAAAAX4/RpJBUDQ1zzI/s400/Japanese+Spiderman.jpg

Troy_Parker
09-12-2010, 04:16 PM
As crap as that looks, I think slightly thicker (printed) webbing on a suit made out of the same material that the Raimi movie suits were made out of, wouldn't look so bad.

Or maybe even slightly raised webbing with a simplistic style, like in the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon. :D

Chris Wallace
09-13-2010, 06:58 AM
Well, you can search for a pic of the Nicholas Hammond suit, or the japanese Spidey suit that's pretty much what printed webbing on the suit looks like.

http://www.moviecatcher.net/images/spiderman-strikes-back1.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gfGtGdgPKLw/ScIt1WIDljI/AAAAAAAAAX4/RpJBUDQ1zzI/s400/Japanese+Spiderman.jpg

These images, sorry to say, prove nothing. They are pics of cheesy suits made for cheesy 70's shows. Much as I like raised webbing, I am not convinced that printed can't work.

chaseter
09-13-2010, 09:28 AM
The webbing on the suits that some of you posted will not happen. That webbing is paper thin and when you have fast action or far shots, it is going to disappear. That is why Raimi and Sony went with a thicker and reflective webbing...which looked fantastic on screen. Plus, a spider's webs are shiny and they reflect light so the reflective webbing on Raimi's suit was even more pitch perfect.

Chris Wallace
09-13-2010, 01:07 PM
Spider silk is also silver, but that doesn't stop the protests either. Many fans want everything old school, regardless of how much the character has evolved or how much more impact the Acheson costume had onscreen.

Oscorp
09-13-2010, 01:49 PM
Silver makes sense, yes. I just think that black LOOKS better, which is more important to me. But yeah I get what you mean with it being harder to recognise in motion, so I'm not sure what I'd prefer.

Troy_Parker
09-13-2010, 02:15 PM
Double post. -.-

Troy_Parker
09-13-2010, 02:15 PM
Thicker, Slighty Raised Webbing.

Simplistic Web Style.

Black/Silvery like in the Raimi movies. (Y)

rcazzy
09-13-2010, 02:28 PM
Personally, I'd like a costume similar to the one in the Web Of Shadows game. Perhaps with bigger eyes. I always thought Spidey should maybe look kind of inquisitive and as some people say the sharper eyes look scary, wide ones could get a similar effect in being slightly creepy (in the move world of course). The material used on the suit and how it shows in certain lights would be pleasing to the eye I believe.

I firmly think it's possible for a costume to be pleasing to the eye and for it to not look like it was constructed for extremely large sums of money. One thing about the Raimi trilogy costume is it never looked like it was flexible to me. Maybe it was just Tobey's stance, but he always looked like he was stuck in a certain position.

http://images.fragland.net/screenshots/4336/344955904.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/281/945883_20081008_screen001.jpg

Troy_Parker
09-13-2010, 02:30 PM
^ As good as that looks, the problem is... a real life translation would probably be just super tight spandex.

And we all know how super-duper awesome wicked cool that looks in real life.

XD

hobo123
09-13-2010, 04:06 PM
i hope the suit looks something like this

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/464/29267425.png
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/5317/62397959.png

rcazzy
09-13-2010, 06:23 PM
^ As good as that looks, the problem is... a real life translation would probably be just super tight spandex.

And we all know how super-duper awesome wicked cool that looks in real life.

XD

I can see how it could go wrong, but even a similar base to the Raimi movie costume (hopefully thinner for Garfield) and new web, spider and eye design and colour could get the look right.

darthcoolness
09-13-2010, 06:40 PM
no way guys i want the costume to look like marvel ulitmate allaiance's costume
http://wikicheats.gametrailers.com/images/d/d4/MUA2_SpiderMan_Alt01.jpg
http://wikicheats.gametrailers.com/images/e/e0/MUA2_SpiderMan.jpg

Doctor Jones
09-13-2010, 06:55 PM
I don't really want to see seams in his costume. It's not neccessary. If it happens, I won't mind, but it's not neccessary.

Oscorp
09-14-2010, 04:53 AM
i hope the suit looks something like this

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/464/29267425.png
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/5317/62397959.png

Man that video of Spidey, Hulk and Iron Man taking down that huge robot further reminds me how much I'd love if Blur made a whole Spidey movie with those CGI graphics.

Chris Wallace
09-14-2010, 06:50 AM
I don't really want to see seams in his costume. It's not neccessary. If it happens, I won't mind, but it's not neccessary.
I would mind. Part of the reason for the raised web pattern was to hide some of the seams.

storyteller
09-14-2010, 11:51 AM
Again lets keep this clear. The webbing on the Raimi suits was black. Its wasn't silver webs, it was black. But they were reflective. This made them look silver in brightly lit areas. Drawings can cheat like hell. Webbing on the surface is not going to show up well on screen. The suit would just look red and blue. Being reflective gives the webbing depth. The suit needs to pop out. Also a lot of times people keep thinking about a panel shot and aren't thinking of movement. Small eyes will make the mask look bad when ever the actor moves. Unless the camera is always in his face, the eyes need to be big. Also it just better for the actor who already had their vision obscured.

Again the comics cheat so much. They can get the nice stills that only a comic book can get because its a still image. They can show the proportions they want. They can have the reflections and color they want.

I don't know if the director and sony are looking at this board but do you really think they need to look at this board to get access to a gallery of every licensed artwork of spiderman from marvel?

I will be honest, without someone pointing out the changes. The Spiderman 1 and 2 suits looked the same but were different designs in reality. Most people just aren't going to notice that back spider a lot.

mickmike
09-14-2010, 12:23 PM
Again lets keep this clear. The webbing on the Raimi suits was black. Its wasn't silver webs, it was black. But they were reflective. This made them look silver in brightly lit areas. .


Nope..sorry the highlights of the webs were painted a gun metal .Which photographed silvery/metallic.

rahan
09-14-2010, 12:43 PM
These images, sorry to say, prove nothing. They are pics of cheesy suits made for cheesy 70's shows. Much as I like raised webbing, I am not convinced that printed can't work.

these images weren't intended to prove anything. They are simply images of printed webbing. Various other examples can be found here http://www.spidey4fun.ncable.net.au/comic_style.htm

though they are fan made costumes and not ones that were part of a production. The Hammond and japanese Spidey suit were the only ones as far as I can think, that were made for camera.

spidermanJLA!~
09-14-2010, 03:23 PM
i hope the suit looks something like this

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/464/29267425.png
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/5317/62397959.png

Yeah, it's nice. But imo it he looks like a skull under that mask. And also, He needs a little raised webbing (or lowered, if possible) and those eyes, they just look boring. I would like some eyes that are like..well hard to explain but eyes that are put on the mask, and not just part of it. Like how you can see the contents of his face, that is what I don't like.

Other than that, great costume!:yay:

rcazzy
09-14-2010, 03:42 PM
Yeah, it's nice. But imo it he looks like a skull under that mask. And also, He needs a little raised webbing (or lowered, if possible) and those eyes, they just look boring. I would like some eyes that are like..well hard to explain but eyes that are put on the mask, and not just part of it. Like how you can see the contents of his face, that is what I don't like.

Other than that, great costume!:yay:

Lowered webbing could be cool if the pulled it off. I wouldn't mind slightly raised webbing either. I also get what you mean by the mask looking like there's a skull underneath. I wouldn't mind a small bit of shaping for the mask, but leaving the mouth free to move.
What I mean by this is I don't want a repeat of this at 0:48.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOrnEFPxhUY

Really takes me outta the movie for some reason.

As for the eyes, do you mean kinda like goggles or something?

Ajendo
09-14-2010, 04:04 PM
Spider silk is also silver, but that doesn't stop the protests either. Many fans want everything old school, regardless of how much the character has evolved or how much more impact the Acheson costume had onscreen.

Who gives a crap what colour spider silk is? The fact is, you harp on about how silly it is for people wanting realism and yet here you are. The webbing on the costume has always been black and so it should be for the simple and sole fact that, that is how it was designed and originally intended.

Spider-ManHero12
09-14-2010, 04:33 PM
^^ Then how come nobody has ever had a problem with it? I sure as hell didn't. I, to this day, still think the best adapted comic book to film suits would have to be Spider-Man, Iron Man, Superman ,Ghost Rider, and Daredevil's suit.

LegendaryCaleb
09-14-2010, 05:00 PM
this would probably be the best video game costume that could be made into a movie costume
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/spid.png

spidermanJLA!~
09-14-2010, 05:15 PM
Lowered webbing could be cool if the pulled it off. I wouldn't mind slightly raised webbing either. I also get what you mean by the mask looking like there's a skull underneath. I wouldn't mind a small bit of shaping for the mask, but leaving the mouth free to move.
What I mean by this is I don't want a repeat of this at 0:48.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOrnEFPxhUY

Really takes me outta the movie for some reason.

As for the eyes, do you mean kinda like goggles or something?




Now that you mention goggles, it reminded me of a manip I tried to a while back and I found the base photo.

I always liked these eyes
(not animated eyes, if you're thinking that, because we all know that would be creepy)

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1553/spidermannewseries150.gif



















http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5262/00194100detaila.jpg

And if you trim the whiskers and change the lenses, this could work, wouldn't you say?

spidermanJLA!~
09-14-2010, 05:16 PM
this would probably be the best video game costume that could be made into a movie costume
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/spid.png

Agreed! :awesome:

rcazzy
09-14-2010, 05:32 PM
this would probably be the best video game costume that could be made into a movie costume
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/spid.png
The reflective webbing might make it end up looking a lot like the last movie costume. As long as it's toned down! Love the eyes.


Now that you mention goggles, it reminded me of a manip I tried to a while back and I found the base photo.

I always liked these eyes
(not animated eyes, if you're thinking that, because we all know that would be creepy)

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1553/spidermannewseries150.gif


http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5262/00194100detaila.jpg

And if you trim the whiskers and change the lenses, this could work, wouldn't you say?

I'd very much like eyes like that myself! I tried a similar thing a good while back


http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r1/rcazzy/MaskSpideycopy.jpg

spidermanJLA!~
09-14-2010, 06:06 PM
Your idea is much better that mine. I like how you could just use regular glasses, get some white lenses, separate the glasses into two parts, Tilt them, sharpen the edges, paint em black, Attach it to the mask and done! Perfect eyes! Wow! They might have something MUCH better in the movie, with all that money, However I feel a Halloween costume coming on.....

hobo123
09-14-2010, 08:58 PM
this would probably be the best video game costume that could be made into a movie costume
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/spid.png

this actually looks really good

Chris Wallace
09-15-2010, 11:02 AM
i hope the suit looks something like this

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/464/29267425.png
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/5317/62397959.png

The problem with these images is they support the argument that the webs will disappear in a lot of shots.

Oscorp
09-15-2010, 12:16 PM
this would probably be the best video game costume that could be made into a movie costume
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/spid.png

That would be perfect. Black, slighty raised webbings (lesser raised than the previous one) and with just slight reflection. The colours and the eyes are perfect imo

Young Superman
09-15-2010, 01:03 PM
this would probably be the best video game costume that could be made into a movie costume
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/spid.png

Agreed

Ken-Kaniff
09-15-2010, 01:09 PM
this would probably be the best video game costume that could be made into a movie costume
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/spid.png
I love it! Especially the eyes!:awesome:

What game is it from master?

Chris Wallace
09-15-2010, 01:10 PM
Again lets keep this clear. The webbing on the Raimi suits was black. Its wasn't silver webs, it was black. But they were reflective. This made them look silver in brightly lit areas.

Nope. Sorry. That is simply not true.
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5302/actionpromo1.png
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9601/actionpromo2.png
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5277/actionpromo3.png
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/827/actionpromo4.png
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6351/actionpromo5.png
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/1166/actionpromo6.png

I don't know why, but I just have a feeling that the symbol on the new suit won't have mandibles.

LegendaryCaleb
09-15-2010, 01:49 PM
I love it! Especially the eyes!:awesome:

What game is it from master?
im glad everyone loves it! i think its awesome myself!
its from the new one shattered dimensions...this is in one of the cut scenes...i got this shot from the gametrailers review..theres a couple other shots in there if ya wanna see more

Ajendo
09-15-2010, 02:58 PM
^^ Then how come nobody has ever had a problem with it? I sure as hell didn't. I, to this day, still think the best adapted comic book to film suits would have to be Spider-Man, Iron Man, Superman ,Ghost Rider, and Daredevil's suit.

Your post has nothing to do with what I was talking about or at least the point I was trying to make.

chaseter
09-15-2010, 03:02 PM
The reflective webbing might make it end up looking a lot like the last movie costume.
Who cares that it might resemble the last movie's costume:huh:

Ajendo
09-15-2010, 03:07 PM
^^Agreed. If there's one thing I'll never complain about is spidey's red and blue costume from Raimi's movies. Naturally there'd be some sort of change as there always is but I'm hoping to God that a change isn't made to the point where the costume is ruined just for the sake of it being different.

chaseter
09-15-2010, 03:11 PM
The past movie's costume was fantastic. I wouldn't mind if the emblem or the eyes changed a bit but they put a lot of time and a lot of money into those designs and it showed. I DO NOT want a crappy cloth version with paper thin black webs and seams running down the sides. I don't know who designed that costume but to use raised webs to hide the seams and the brick pattern they used along with the color selection was perfect.

I understand wanting to make this movie your own and doing things different from Raimi but I also agree...do not butcher the costume because you want to be 'different'.

chaseter
09-15-2010, 03:13 PM
this would probably be the best video game costume that could be made into a movie costume
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/calebyour/spid.png

This does look great and I would be 100% behind this design. However, the big spider logo on the front looks a bit childish and the eye material looks a bit off for me. I liked the previous costume's eye material. It was sort of silvery and you could see through it on close ups. That just looks like cloth covering his eyes. Other than that, it looks great.

Spider-ManHero12
09-15-2010, 03:18 PM
Your post has nothing to do with what I was talking about or at least the point I was trying to make. You seem to say that alot. You were saying that since the webbing is black in the comics, then it should be black on film. I said, if that's the case, then how come nobody was bothered by it? You make it sound like the suit wil lbe crap without them being black. I mean, do you honestly think that the general audiance is going to say "Wait a minute. The webbing is silver! Not black!"

The webs should atleast be raised a little. Like I said, Raimi's Spider-Man suit was perfect, so unless they want to take a bad route, they can't stray too far away from the previous films costume design.

Ken-Kaniff
09-15-2010, 04:12 PM
I think I speak almost everyone when I say I want to see the classic Spider-Man suit, not a "raised" webbing one, not one that mixes different lokos, and as much as I'm all for orignality, not one they just pulled out of nowhere. I want my classic red/blue, "evil eyes", black threads on the suit Spider-Man. Bassically I want a John Romita costume, and before anyone says "There's one little problem...", no, if the could get Christopher Reeve to look like Superman in the 70s, they sure as hell can make a simple suit look like this:
What a lame idea! Apparently, you don't speak for everyone! All I have to say is that I thank God that not a lot of people think like you and hopefully none of the people involved in the reboot either!:rolleyes:

Speak for yourself, cause I certainly don't want something like that. I want something that stays close to the original, while keeping in mind that it's not a drawing. The raised webbing and scale texture did just that, add dimension and a nice visual punch to something that would have otherwise been a pretty flat, boring and potentially cheesy costume in a live action enviroment. No downgrade for the new movie suit please, only upgrades.
You said everything that needs to be said!

The past movie's costume was fantastic. I wouldn't mind if the emblem or the eyes changed a bit but they put a lot of time and a lot of money into those designs and it showed. I DO NOT want a crappy cloth version with paper thin black webs and seams running down the sides. I don't know who designed that costume but to use raised webs to hide the seams and the brick pattern they used along with the color selection was perfect.

I understand wanting to make this movie your own and doing things different from Raimi but I also agree...do not butcher the costume because you want to be 'different'.
I agree with everything you said here! The suit in Raimi's trilogy was very good imo!

mre
09-15-2010, 08:36 PM
The problem with these images is they support the argument that the webs will disappear in a lot of shots.

I don't really mind that at all. Besides, Spidey has been drawn without webs in the comics before, so it would just be, like, accurate to the comics, man.

chaseter
09-16-2010, 01:33 AM
And Cap has looked like this:

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9363/liefeldcap.jpg

But I never want to see that on screen...ever.

Oscorp
09-16-2010, 04:53 AM
OMGLMFAO!!! :pal:

Troy_Parker
09-16-2010, 01:37 PM
The past movie's costume was fantastic. I wouldn't mind if the emblem or the eyes changed a bit but they put a lot of time and a lot of money into those designs and it showed. I DO NOT want a crappy cloth version with paper thin black webs and seams running down the sides. I don't know who designed that costume but to use raised webs to hide the seams and the brick pattern they used along with the color selection was perfect.

I understand wanting to make this movie your own and doing things different from Raimi but I also agree...do not butcher the costume because you want to be 'different'.

This.

Raimi and co must have done something right with their interpretation of the costume if various video game Spider-Man suits seem to have been influenced by the Raimi suits, e.g... the cloth texture and raised/reflective webbing.

Troy_Parker
09-16-2010, 01:39 PM
And Cap has looked like this:

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9363/liefeldcap.jpg

But I never want to see that on screen...ever.

Wtf? is that real? :|

Ajendo
09-16-2010, 01:53 PM
You seem to say that alot. You were saying that since the webbing is black in the comics, then it should be black on film.

No. I don't give a damn what colour the webbing is. My point was based on Chris' overall harping on about realism. Read the post again or don't I'm not bothered.

if that's the case, then how come nobody was bothered by it?

N/A

You make it sound like the suit wil lbe crap without them being black. I mean, do you honestly think that the general audiance is going to say "Wait a minute. The webbing is silver! Not black!"

You clearly have an optical impediment. I have said nothing but good things about Raimi's spidey costume, in fact I even praised it as one of the things he got right. Instead of negotiating your mind into being the hapless victim, try to be more aware of the words being posted and understand their meaning, ok?

:whatever:

Immortalfire
09-16-2010, 01:54 PM
And Cap has looked like this:

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9363/liefeldcap.jpg

But I never want to see that on screen...ever.

Captain Steroid?

:cap:

LegendaryCaleb
09-16-2010, 02:56 PM
This does look great and I would be 100% behind this design. However, the big spider logo on the front looks a bit childish and the eye material looks a bit off for me. I liked the previous costume's eye material. It was sort of silvery and you could see through it on close ups. That just looks like cloth covering his eyes. Other than that, it looks great.
Yeah I agree that the spidey on the front needs to be less bulky and kiddy looking...and maybe make the eyes look a lil different...the standard eye material they used in raimis film would be cool...but something more glass like...more lightbulb white-ish would be cool to me as well

Spider-ManHero12
09-16-2010, 03:45 PM
No. I don't give a damn what colour the webbing is. My point was based on Chris' overall harping on about realism. Read the post again or don't I'm not bothered.



N/A



You clearly have an optical impediment. I have said nothing but good things about Raimi's spidey costume, in fact I even praised it as one of the things he got right. Instead of negotiating your mind into being the hapless victim, try to be more aware of the words being posted and understand their meaning, ok?

:whatever: Why don't YOU start making your posts more clear? Ever try that?

Ajendo
09-17-2010, 02:25 AM
My posts are crystal clear. Its not my fault if your education system has failed you. I suggest you write to your local education authority and make a shattering complaint.

Spider-ManHero12
09-17-2010, 08:39 AM
^^ Lol, you make me laugh. You really do. Please, make me laugh some more. :woot:

:dry:

Spider-Man '92
09-17-2010, 08:44 AM
I'm hoping for the simple fabric costume. Though Raimi's Spidey was slick, I want the basics, maybe even with the underarm webbing, that's very old-school.

Alex The Great
09-17-2010, 09:52 PM
All I want is no raised webbing or raised spider. Change the eyes a bit and I'm fine.

Oh, and I didn't know they started filming in December :o

NinjaCarm
09-17-2010, 10:59 PM
For the 723rd time, John Romita Sr style done in the Alex Ross realistic cloth small sinister eyes is THE way to go.

http://marvelartworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/alex-ross-visions-spider-man-.jpg

Young Superman
09-17-2010, 11:15 PM
For the 723rd time, John Romita Sr style done in the Alex Ross realistic cloth small sinister eyes is THE way to go.

http://marvelartworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/alex-ross-visions-spider-man-.jpg

I could definitely get behind this. It looks AMAZING!

Spider-Man '92
09-17-2010, 11:26 PM
^^ Agreed. It's very true to the classic Spidey, but it has that nice touch with the eyes that makes it even better.

mickmike
09-18-2010, 01:50 AM
http://mikehillart.com/images/spidey1.jpg

LegendaryCaleb
09-18-2010, 02:30 AM
wow...that just freakin rocks... :yay:

Goran
09-18-2010, 04:54 AM
I like it too! but the spider has a j-lo kinda a$$ ;)

rahan
09-18-2010, 06:26 AM
I don't really mind that at all. Besides, Spidey has been drawn without webs in the comics before, so it would just be, like, accurate to the comics, man.

Now, it might just be me, but I prefer something that looks awesome. Besides, the Rami suit was accurate to the comics. It translated the comic elements into live action with reasonable changes. Some comicfans however seem to confuse the word accurate with copying. The Rami suit was not a copy of the comic suit, however, it was an accurate transference into a live action enviroment.

rahan
09-18-2010, 06:31 AM
And Cap has looked like this:

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9363/liefeldcap.jpg

But I never want to see that on screen...ever.

Captain America sez:

"Remember Kids, if ya wanna 'roid up, do not go cheapo and buy 'ehm from the shady dude at the street corner. Ya never know if ya sold oestrogene instead."

rahan
09-18-2010, 06:34 AM
For the 723rd time, John Romita Sr style done in the Alex Ross realistic cloth small sinister eyes is THE way to go.

http://marvelartworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/alex-ross-visions-spider-man-.jpg

Sorry, no, really, it looks like a cheap halloween costume. No, just doesn't cut it for a big budget movie, imho.

Ajendo
09-18-2010, 07:02 AM
http://mikehillart.com/images/spidey1.jpg

Less emphasis on the ear bulge and less eye reflection and you got somethin' special.

NinjaCarm
09-18-2010, 07:40 AM
http://mikehillart.com/images/spidey1.jpg

Please tell me that is a screen test for the reboot. ( I can only hope it comes out something similar).

NinjaCarm
09-18-2010, 07:41 AM
Sorry, no, really, it looks like a cheap halloween costume. No, just doesn't cut it for a big budget movie, imho.

I respectively disagree. It could look great on screen if properly made.

Oscorp
09-18-2010, 08:01 AM
http://mikehillart.com/images/spidey1.jpg

Don't like the eyes on that one. Otherwise pretty good.

Ajendo
09-18-2010, 08:26 AM
I love the spider and the way the black web pattern punctuates the costume.

rahan
09-18-2010, 08:38 AM
http://mikehillart.com/images/spidey1.jpg
Looks like the Nick Hammond suit with a different chest spider. While it might be good for a TV show, it's really underwhelming in terms of a big budget movie, imho.

Oscorp
09-18-2010, 08:45 AM
Just make the web and chest spider slightly raised (not much) and change the eyes abit and it's good for me. Also make the black parts blue.

Pac-Master
09-18-2010, 08:53 AM
Looks like the Nick Hammond suit with a different chest spider. While it might be good for a TV show, it's really underwhelming in terms of a big budget movie, imho.

This is pretty much how I feel.

Even so, great job, Mike! All of your work is awesome!

socool
09-18-2010, 01:29 PM
Change the material of the eyes and get rid of the ear bulge and it's perfect!!!

hobo123
09-18-2010, 02:09 PM
Sorry, no, really, it looks like a cheap halloween costume. No, just doesn't cut it for a big budget movie, imho.

Looks like the Nick Hammond suit with a different chest spider. While it might be good for a TV show, it's really underwhelming in terms of a big budget movie, imho.

agreed

Troy_Parker
09-18-2010, 02:18 PM
I'd love it if he has like a really crappy spandex type thing (like most people seem to want for his normal costume) in the wrestling scenes (if there even are any) before he gets something... better.

Spider-Vader
09-18-2010, 05:52 PM
Shattered Dimensions DEFINITELY has a great costume. I wouldn't mind seeing something similar to it.

Alex The Great
09-18-2010, 08:54 PM
http://mikehillart.com/images/spidey1.jpg
I like this, professional looking with a tiny side of homemade :up:

socool
09-18-2010, 09:44 PM
I like the design the most. The material is meh.

Young Superman
09-19-2010, 03:14 PM
http://wikicheats.gametrailers.com/images/e/e0/MUA2_SpiderMan.jpg

I like this a lot. Does amyomr have a larger version of this?

hobo123
09-19-2010, 08:59 PM
I like this a lot. Does amyomr have a larger version of this?

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/Deaths_Head_II/Spideyimproved.jpg?t=1263776224

Young Superman
09-19-2010, 09:04 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/Deaths_Head_II/Spideyimproved.jpg?t=1263776224

Thanks, that's AWESOME!

Young Superman
09-19-2010, 10:07 PM
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5302/actionpromo1.png
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9601/actionpromo2.png
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5277/actionpromo3.png
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/827/actionpromo4.png
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6351/actionpromo5.png
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/1166/actionpromo6.png



The only thing that I'd really change about the Raimi Spidey suit is make the webbing on the suit black instead of silver and that could be the reboot costume.

lespaul59
09-19-2010, 11:28 PM
Well I don't see any reason to do much more than minor changes to the Raimi suit because it's about as close to perfect as any superhero suit has been in my opinion. Personaly I'm a huge fan of the black suit (comic version) and have always been so I would like to see them make it work.

Chris Wallace
09-20-2010, 12:24 AM
I didn't make this, but how about an amalgamation between the Raimi suit and Ben Reily's suit?

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/016/b/c/toby_maguire_as_ben_reily_by_megamike75.jpg

Ugh. No.

mre
09-20-2010, 12:53 AM
Yeah, sure I wouldn't wanna see it on screen... But I mean... That is cool. Whoever made that Reilly version of the costume... Great job!

Chris Wallace
09-20-2010, 07:10 AM
http://mikehillart.com/images/spidey1.jpg

It's well done, but the small, reflective lenses combined with flat webbing is too remniscent of Hammond for my tastes.
After 3 movies with raised webs, flat is just...boring to me now.

Troy_Parker
09-20-2010, 11:46 AM
I'm falling in love with the Raimi costume all over again. XD!

I honestly can't pick out any changes they should make, apart from maybe changing the eyes and spider-symbols.

Young Superman
09-20-2010, 02:53 PM
Will someone please manip the webbing on this pic of Raimi Spidey suit black instead of silver? I really wanna see what it would look like.
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/1166/actionpromo6.png

Chris Wallace
09-20-2010, 03:24 PM
I'm falling in love with the Raimi costume all over again. XD!

I honestly can't pick out any changes they should make, apart from maybe changing the eyes and spider-symbols.

Even that's a big maybe. And yet the most likely area they'll attack.
Like I said, for no particular reason I'm predicting the mandibles on the symbols will be the first thing to go.

Doctor Jones
09-20-2010, 03:39 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/Deaths_Head_II/Spideyimproved.jpg?t=1263776224

I like this. Best one I've seen. I like the idea of the black webs, but outlining them is a hint of silver. I'd love to see that. But whatever it takes for him to look good in movement I'm fine with. I think the webs do need to stand out in some way though.

spidermanJLA!~
09-20-2010, 06:54 PM
Don't you guys think this would be a nice change for the eyes? And the webs are nice and dark so they stand out.

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1761/mrspiderman3maskclassic.jpg

The Austrian
09-21-2010, 03:25 AM
http://www.nerdcore.de/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/first-spider-man-comic.jpg

.. being a spidey fan for almost 40 years now I say the big change should be showing him more skinny and not that ripped as in the movie!

changing back the costume to be more comic book like (eg. no raised webbings, etc.) WILL NOT translate for the movie - what looks good in the comic dos not look good in a movie (eg. in comics sometimes the costume shows wrinkles to make it look more "realistic" - the same approach would look very corny in a movie)

Chris Wallace
09-21-2010, 10:53 AM
I don't think making him 98 pounds should or will happen. Nobody wants to see a toothpick in tights.

Oscorp
09-21-2010, 11:18 AM
I don't think making him 98 pounds should or will happen. Nobody wants to see a toothpick in tights.

Agreed! I've never understood the whole "wow-factor" of a skinny Spidey lifting heavy objects. Maybe it works in comics but it would just look weird on screen I think. I've always pictured Spidey to have the body somewhat like Brad Pitt in Fight Club. Not very big but muscular and not skinny.

The Austrian
09-21-2010, 11:34 AM
.. well, the whole discussion here is how to stay "true" to the comics ... well, pp was 16 and a nerd getting bitten by the spider - thus, the magic espially is in he fact, that a skinny guy lifts heavy weights !
but ... i smaller version of brat in fight club would do well (what i am saying is that tobey DOES NOT show this kind of body with all the fake muscles under his costume ... he looks too small and too "beefed" (or however the right english expresion is) in the movie ... just remember the scene in sm1, when he runs to escape the goblin ... it simply does not look right

Oscorp
09-21-2010, 11:59 AM
.. well, the whole discussion here is how to stay "true" to the comics ... well, pp was 16 and a nerd getting bitten by the spider - thus, the magic espially is in he fact, that a skinny guy lifts heavy weights !
but ... i smaller version of brat in fight club would do well (what i am saying is that tobey DOES NOT show this kind of body with all the fake muscles under his costume ... he looks too small and too "beefed" (or however the right english expresion is) in the movie ... just remember the scene in sm1, when he runs to escape the goblin ... it simply does not look right

Yeah but a 16 year old doesn't have to look skinny in proportion. Andrew Garfield is very tall and thus shouldn't be too skinny in my opinion. It wouldn't show clearly through his normal clothes that he has athletic muscles but should be very clear when he's in his Spidey suit I think.

EDIT: Of course PP shouldn't have that kind of body initially before gaining powers. But he should pretty quickly after he's bitten imo. Kinda like in Spider-Man 1, just maybe not exactly as big.

The Austrian
09-21-2010, 12:04 PM
.. well, i do not want to start an argument here ... still, peter parker was the perfect nerd ... tell me one reason, why he should look athletic in the costume ??? (cauz the spider bite made him grew muscles ?? ah, nooo ...) i would recommend you all to travel back in time and start reading the early year comics ... that is spidey how he is supposed to be ....

sabetoonth
09-21-2010, 12:13 PM
Spidey has grown however, become more then he was in the 60s, you cant just have the 60s Pete be the one in the movie, it has to be what Parker has become as much as what he is, both physically and characterization wise

The Austrian
09-21-2010, 12:19 PM
WHY ???? again, i am not trying to start an argument here ... i am a fan for 40 years and just want to understand ...

why kick-ass was working out than ?? i mean, c'mon ... he was really skinny ...

and .... why not being faithful to the comic and start the whole story in 1962?? could be a nice go or the reboot, right ?

Oscorp
09-21-2010, 12:23 PM
The film doesn't even have to show his origin and all that. And I prefer him to grow some muscles because on screen, I think it would just look awkward having him be really skinny under that costume. But if I'm proven wrong, then good for me.

The Austrian
09-21-2010, 12:29 PM
... wow, that is interesting !!! how would you start a reboot without origin ?? just a brief flash back than ????
ages ago, there was a big discussion between marvel and dc, whereelse the complain was, that marvel heros do not have muscles .. so you really think it is necessary to have a pumped up spidey on the big screen (i am just curious, no offense) ... but than tell me why kick ass worked out so well please

Eggyman
09-21-2010, 12:32 PM
.. well, the whole discussion here is how to stay "true" to the comics ... well, pp was 16 and a nerd getting bitten by the spider - thus, the magic espially is in he fact, that a skinny guy lifts heavy weights !
but ... i smaller version of brat in fight club would do well (what i am saying is that tobey DOES NOT show this kind of body with all the fake muscles under his costume ... he looks too small and too "beefed" (or however the right english expresion is) in the movie ... just remember the scene in sm1, when he runs to escape the goblin ... it simply does not look right

Spidey doesn't look right running in any capacity. He should jump and bounce from poles, tables, telephone booths, cars, and such. I heard a comic artist say, and I'm paraphrasing now, if you have Spidey stood on his feet, you're wasting the character. I think that is such a true statement. And I think it applies to running, too.

Oscorp
09-21-2010, 12:33 PM
Spidey doesn't even have to be big. I don't want that. I just don't want him to be too skinny and I want him to have some clear muscle. As I said, very much like Brad Pitt in Fight Club. That's definitely not too big if you ask me. I don't get what you mean with that Marvel and DC thing. But I just think we'll have to agree to disagree.

I've never seen Kick Ass and am not really interested to either.

EDIT: This post is an answer to The Austrian, not Eggyman...

Eggyman
09-21-2010, 12:34 PM
... wow, that is interesting !!! how would you start a reboot without origin ?? just a brief flash back than ????
ages ago, there was a big discussion between marvel and dc, whereelse the complain was, that marvel heros do not have muscles .. so you really think it is necessary to have a pumped up spidey on the big screen (i am just curious, no offense) ... but than tell me why kick ass worked out so well please

I want him to have muscle definition on a slim frame. A gymnast's physique. I think Tobey-Spidey did look a little chunky at times and I would've prefered him to look slightly more... lanky.

Oscorp
09-21-2010, 12:35 PM
I want him to have muscle definition on a slim frame. A gymnast's physique. I think Tobey-Spidey did look a little chunky at times and I would've prefered him to look slightly more... lanky.

Yeah gymnast is definitely the right word. Athlete was probably wrong comparision by me.

sabetoonth
09-21-2010, 12:38 PM
WHY ???? again, i am not trying to start an argument here ... i am a fan for 40 years and just want to understand ...

why kick-ass was working out than ?? i mean, c'mon ... he was really skinny ...

and .... why not being faithful to the comic and start the whole story in 1962?? could be a nice go or the reboot, right ?
Have the Spider-Man reboot take place in the 60s?
:doh:
Why?
... wow, that is interesting !!! how would you start a reboot without origin ?? just a brief flash back than ????
ages ago, there was a big discussion between marvel and dc, whereelse the complain was, that marvel heros do not have muscles .. so you really think it is necessary to have a pumped up spidey on the big screen (i am just curious, no offense) ... but than tell me why kick ass worked out so well please
And as for Kick Ass, i despise that film and never understood why its as popular as it is. i cant stanbd Aaron Johnson, i cant stand Kick Ass, i wanted to punch the guy in the face the whole movie

Oscorp
09-21-2010, 12:40 PM
As I said, I haven't seen Kick Ass, but judging from trailers, clips and pictures, it never got my interest. Not my kind of superhero movie tbh

sabetoonth
09-21-2010, 12:44 PM
I wasnt responding to you 'corp, jsut what I quoted, god i hate KA, so overrated

Oscorp
09-21-2010, 12:47 PM
Yeah I know, just felt like pointing that out xD

The Austrian
09-21-2010, 12:48 PM
why to reboot in the 60is ??

a.) the comic started there
b.) it is a REBOOT - so we should see something different than, right?
c.) it could be fun for all the new fans to see a different environment ...

btw: i did not like ka either, but as i have told you, i am old school, so i thought you young guys all like it :(

sabetoonth
09-21-2010, 12:53 PM
The comic for Iron Man was in Vietnam but Iron Man was in the middle east

A reboot usually brings the series into a more recent enviroment, one the target audience is familiar with.

It could be, but i simply dont want a period peice Spider-Man, especially if this could keep Spidey from interacting with other characters Sony has the rights too.

Oscorp
09-21-2010, 12:55 PM
Sure it started in the 60's, but Spider-Man doesn't really represent the past specifically, as much as Batman doesn't have to be in the '40s.

Sure it should be different. As in different story, different villain(s), different director, different actors. But not different setting.

Personally, I wouldn't like a Spidey movie to be set in the '60s at all. It would feel like going backwards in a bad way.

Eggyman
09-21-2010, 12:58 PM
Interaction should not be the reason. Spidey, as many have said, is an everyman. He should be in the now so kids can relate to him, his modern situations, and landscapes, and so that fans can see him in the world they enhabit.

The Austrian
09-21-2010, 12:59 PM
... was just an idea .... but you are right, it would harm any interactions with sony characters ....

but (as always) - why they start cap america than in the 40is ? ;)

sabetoonth
09-21-2010, 12:59 PM
tht was the second point i made,Eggy

sabetoonth
09-21-2010, 01:01 PM
... was just an idea .... but you are right, it would harm any interactions with sony characters ....

but (as always) - why they start cap america than in the 40is ? ;)
crucial part of Cap is the man out of time element

Oscorp
09-21-2010, 01:02 PM
... was just an idea .... but you are right, it would harm any interactions with sony characters ....

but (as always) - why they start cap america than in the 40is ? ;)

Because his origin is during the World War II so it would be pretty stupid not to have him start there. That specific time as ALOT more important than the 60's for Spidey.

The Austrian
09-21-2010, 01:03 PM
..hmm .. guess you are right !!!!

The Austrian
09-21-2010, 01:07 PM
so back to the costume - can we agree on a black (not blue) and red costume as in the original comic book - but with raised webbings to translate to the movie ?? AND: less bulky than tobey, but still (lets say it like that : skinny - but in shape) ?????

Oscorp
09-21-2010, 01:10 PM
I'd prefer red and blue tbh. And just slightly raised, black webbings.

Eggyman
09-21-2010, 01:11 PM
No. Red and blue, no raised webbing, mask on, no external webshooters, no baggy I-made-it-at-home look. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

The Austrian
09-21-2010, 01:15 PM
a.) why blue ? originally it was black - but however, does not matter too much
b.) no raised webbing ut no baggy homestyle ... how ??????? we all know printed webbing looks corny in movies (hammond and asian spider man)
c.) web-shooters have to be internal - i do fully agree !!!

Oscorp
09-21-2010, 01:17 PM
a.) why blue ? originally it was black - but however, does not matter too much
b.) no raised webbing ut no baggy homestyle ... how ??????? we all know printed webbing looks corny in movies (hammond and asian spider man)
c.) web-shooters have to be internal - i do fully agree !!!

Because alot of people may think red and blue simply looks better and is the design most representative of Spidey?

How can the Hammond and Asian Spider-Man be any proof of that?? :huh:

Eggyman
09-21-2010, 01:20 PM
It can't. It can be done with ease. Just because it hasn't, does not mean that it couldn't.

The Austrian
09-21-2010, 01:20 PM
.. cauz they had printed webbings which did not translate ... again, do not fix what is not broken (current spidey movie costume --- make the webbings black, change logo, eyes, whatsoever, ... but printed will be exactly the baggy homemade style you do not want to see)

Oscorp
09-21-2010, 01:24 PM
.. cauz they had printed webbings which did not translate ... again, do not fix what is not broken (current spidey movie costume --- make the webbings black, change logo, eyes, whatsoever, ... but printed will be exactly the baggy homemade style you do not want to see)

No it DID not translate because it wasn't anyway near as professionally made as it would be today.

sabetoonth
09-21-2010, 01:24 PM
you can prints weebbing but it doesnt have to be as badly made a costume as Kick Ass'

I personally want black slightly raised webs, on a red and blue suit

Eggyman
09-21-2010, 01:25 PM
.. cauz they had printed webbings which did not translate ... again, do not fix what is not broken (current spidey movie costume --- make the webbings black, change logo, eyes, whatsoever, ... but printed will be exactly the baggy homemade style you do not want to see)

Having printed webs has nothing to do with the material used and the fit of the costume.

The Austrian
09-21-2010, 01:29 PM
.. you guys lost me - however, it was nice talking to you - prob. as a 42 year old fanboy (boy ... jeez:() i really do not fit into your community ... but thx for patience

sabetoonth
09-21-2010, 01:32 PM
it mght not be that you dont fit, you jsut have differing opinions, and everyone is entitled to their opinion

The Austrian
09-21-2010, 01:34 PM
cheers ....

Troy_Parker
09-21-2010, 01:35 PM
I think printed webbing in a more simple design, and maybe thicker... would work on a suit made of the same material that the Raimi movie suits were made out of. :)

The Austrian
09-21-2010, 01:38 PM
.. well, shoot me know - and i should not say that as a true believer - i would go for the noir costume of shattered dimesion .... (no, i did not say that, huh ?)

The Austrian
09-21-2010, 01:39 PM
now not know obviously

Young Superman
09-21-2010, 02:35 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/Deaths_Head_II/Spideyimproved.jpg?t=1263776224

I'd love to see what the front of this coatume looks like.

The Austrian
09-21-2010, 03:12 PM
one of you talented guys make a good manip of a costume with no (or slightly) raised webbings please ......

spidermanJLA!~
09-21-2010, 06:31 PM
I'd love to see what the front of this coatume looks like.

Movie logo, slightly raised webbing, nothing special.

Chris Wallace
09-22-2010, 07:00 AM
you can prints weebbing but it doesnt have to be as badly made a costume as Kick Ass'

I personally want black slightly raised webs, on a red and blue suit

That sounds a little like the video game pic that keeps surfacing on this thread.

Spider-Boy
09-22-2010, 04:07 PM
I like the spider on the back, 90's series ftw!

Chris Wallace
09-24-2010, 10:59 AM
What if they printed the webs but kept the symbol raised?

Oscorp
09-24-2010, 11:04 AM
What if they printed the webs but kept the symbol raised?

That could look good. But I still think the webs should be raised. Just slightly however.

Chris Wallace
09-24-2010, 03:23 PM
Even so, the symbol would be more prominently raised than the webs anyway. I don't think there is a single superhero costume that could possible suffer from a raised emblem.

Alex The Great
09-24-2010, 03:47 PM
I always thought the Spectacular Spider-Man show aced the costume. Thick black not raised webbing. They eyes were okay as well :up:

Doctor Jones
09-24-2010, 04:14 PM
Why would a cartoon even bother to have raised webbing? It would be a waste of money to even bother with raising with them. It's all about doing things as inexpensive as possible but still looking good.

Alex The Great
09-24-2010, 04:41 PM
I just thought it looked good :(

Chris Wallace
09-24-2010, 05:26 PM
Why would a cartoon even bother to have raised webbing? It would be a waste of money to even bother with raising with them. It's all about doing things as inexpensive as possible but still looking good.

Even the 2003 series didn't raise the webbing.
I thought the look of "Spectacular" was horrible, but the story, pacing and action made up for it.

spida-man
09-24-2010, 09:35 PM
Even the 2003 series didn't raise the webbing.
I thought the look of "Spectacular" was horrible, but the story, pacing and action made up for it.

iif ur talking about the MTV series when u refer to "2003", uhm..the suit did have raised webbing. not only that the show was based off the films

Alex The Great
09-24-2010, 10:30 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/2lbndki.jpg

I've fallen in love with this. The eyes are big enough, but still sinister. Make the webbing a little raised maybe and we got a suit :up:

Pumpkin_Bomb
09-24-2010, 10:35 PM
Kinda late joining this topic, but if I could choose things I want in the costume for the reboot, these would be my top picks:

1) Black, printed webbing. Not silver, and certainly not raised. It just takes away from the home-made, simplistic nature of the costume. Besides, it would differentiate the reboot from the Raimi series.

2) White eyes, rather than reflective. I'd also rather they be bigger and less triangular, again, to make it more like the comic.

3) Spider logo on the chest and back that are more rounded and stylized, rather than the thinner, more detailed approach of the last movies. Once again, this is mainly because I want it to look different from the last movies, and more accurate to the comics.

spidermanJLA!~
09-24-2010, 10:46 PM
I always thought the Spectacular Spider-Man show aced the costume. Thick black not raised webbing. They eyes were okay as well :up:

This is a pic from long ago in the thread, but this is basically the live action version of the spectacular spiderman suit.


http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4298/spidermani13.jpg

Alex The Great
09-24-2010, 10:58 PM
I admit, that looks okay. I don't like those eyes though. The spidey pic I posted above is awesome :up:

Alex The Great
09-24-2010, 11:05 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/2lbndki.jpg

I've fallen in love with this. The eyes are big enough, but still sinister. Make the webbing a little raised maybe and we got a suit :up:
Re-posting for new page :o

Pumpkin_Bomb
09-25-2010, 10:06 AM
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1761/mrspiderman3maskclassic.jpg

Found this pic a few pages back, and it's pretty much exactly how I want to see the mask.

Alex The Great
09-25-2010, 10:32 AM
I don't really like those eyes. They don't look angry enough :(

Chiroptera
09-25-2010, 10:50 AM
I always liked this costume but didn't like the eyes...

so i changed them a bit lol

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs331.ash2/61152_149350205102685_100000831182172_215397_23806 82_n.jpg

Alex The Great
09-25-2010, 11:13 AM
I like it a lot more now. The wrinkles in the suit is a turn off though :(

Spectacular23
09-25-2010, 11:18 AM
I like it a lot more now. The wrinkles in the suit is a turn off though :(

Why it shouldn't be? What type of skin tight clothes don't winkle?

Spidey_62
09-25-2010, 11:19 AM
Found this pic a few pages back, and it's pretty much exactly how I want to see the mask.
I have that bust, I love it.:word:

Alex The Great
09-25-2010, 11:30 AM
Why it shouldn't be? What type of skin tight clothes don't winkle?
Well yeah, but that one's covered in 'em.

Chris Wallace
09-25-2010, 11:31 AM
iif ur talking about the MTV series when u refer to "2003", uhm..the suit did have raised webbing. not only that the show was based off the films

It was thick, silver and reflective, but not truthfully raised. Not in a 3-dimensional sense like the movies.


http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e391/Str8Ballin8706/MTVSpidey-newseries.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/FridayThe13th2009/Halloween%206/Spiderman%20Mtv%20Series/spider-man_ani_one11.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/FridayThe13th2009/Halloween%206/Spiderman%20Mtv%20Series/s181.jpg

Chris Wallace
09-25-2010, 11:33 AM
you can prints weebbing but it doesnt have to be as badly made a costume as Kick Ass'

I personally want black slightly raised webs, on a red and blue suitWhen you say "slightly raised", are you thinking like the old Hildebrandt art?
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/panther2/l_d5082d65d03621960780814a0079bd-1.jpg
^The origin of the raised webbing! I remember when I first saw this pic back in 1996, i hoped they would do something like this for a movie!
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/panther2/l_f97c0e6187238db49013670ae6c81a-1.jpg

Troy_Parker
09-25-2010, 11:57 AM
Well slightly raised enough for it to not look like crap...

I still think they should go with a less complex web pattern on the suits/mask... like something in TSSM cartoon.

Chris Wallace
09-25-2010, 12:01 PM
That was OVER-simplified. And why less web? The web patterns have become progressively more complex in the comics since the Papa Romita days.

Alex The Great
09-25-2010, 12:06 PM
I wouldn't mind a simpler web pattern. Thick, slightly raised black webs. No silver :up:

Troy_Parker
09-25-2010, 12:24 PM
That was OVER-simplified. And why less web? The web patterns have become progressively more complex in the comics since the Papa Romita days.


Like Alex said, thicker, slightly raised webs... and it would give it a more distinguished look... it'd distance it from the Raimi movie suits too.

Spectacular23
09-25-2010, 02:16 PM
I like the raimi suit. believe me i do. But i don't see what the problem is with printed black webbing. I don't see the problem, i would love to see a cool black printed webbing of the suit mainly one like this: http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/143/8856132amazingspiderman.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/8856132amazingspiderman.jpg/)

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Or this:http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6952/majinbenbyomnitrix23.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/majinbenbyomnitrix23.jpg/)

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I love these design. Whoever artist did these were brilliant. I don't know about everybody else but i really would like to see something different then raise webbing. (Where would he get that kind of material anyway???)

Spidey_62
09-25-2010, 02:26 PM
Those are by Marko Djurdjevic. ^

TheWatcher
09-25-2010, 02:43 PM
The one on the top is one of my all time favorite Spidey pics.

Spectacular23
09-25-2010, 03:29 PM
i like the 2nd one. So sleek and realistic and we will still know that spidey. In particular i like the way the webs on the suit are. They not all over the place but they ain't exactly aligned either. one thing that i really didn't mind but it erk me a lil is how spidey can put on his boots and gloves and the pattern is aligned with the shirt and pants legs. I like the 2nd designs alot.

Troy_Parker
09-25-2010, 03:43 PM
Slighty O/T has Spidey ever had a Red & Black costume? I mean, his normal costume... but instead of the blue pants, underarm area (etc)... it's made of black cloth.

Alex The Great
09-25-2010, 04:55 PM
I think it was originally. But they should avoid that route. Spider-Man's suit has been red and blue for so long it's the norm now. Stick with Red and Blue please

Mace Bloodstone
09-25-2010, 05:57 PM
a little bit closer pic

http://i51.tinypic.com/2gwf6tv.jpg

I like it, think this could work.

Pumpkin_Bomb
09-25-2010, 06:16 PM
I don't really like those eyes. They don't look angry enough :(

They look plenty angry if you ask me. They look angry enough to be intimidating to the criminals, but not so sinister as to scare off the innocents.

Besides, Spider-Man isn't exactly the most angry superhero out there. Having bigger, more expressive, cartoony eyes suits his wise-cracking style, but the sharp decline along the top gives it enough of a scowling look to put the fear into his enemies when he is all business.

Pumpkin_Bomb
09-25-2010, 06:18 PM
^ The version Crow just posted is also awesome. Really, any big, white eyes would be great.

storyteller
09-25-2010, 06:44 PM
Printed webbing runs into two problems


It will not catch the light very well
and
It will probably tear or get damaged very easily since the actor will naturally fold the web over while moving.

Spectacular23
09-25-2010, 08:40 PM
Printed webbing runs into two problems


It will not catch the light very well
and
It will probably tear or get damaged very easily since the actor will naturally fold the web over while moving.

See man this is exactly what i'm talking about. If it does get to that point which i'm pretty sure it won't they would just use the Good ol CGI. I don't think the costume tearing shall be a problem either. and what clothes that you know logically is NOT gonna tear if you crash through a window or get smacked around a few time. I think all that stuff about lighting and tearing shouldn't be a problem at all. period. Printed webbing won't kill anybody.

Troy_Parker
09-25-2010, 08:45 PM
Printed webbing runs into two problems


It will not catch the light very well
and
It will probably tear or get damaged very easily since the actor will naturally fold the web over while moving.

This could occur just aswell with raised webbing, as it's not a part of the suit... it's applied onto it. lol

Young Superman
09-25-2010, 08:47 PM
I always liked this costume but didn't like the eyes...

so i changed them a bit lol

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs331.ash2/61152_149350205102685_100000831182172_215397_23806 82_n.jpg

I like this a lot.

Pumpkin_Bomb
09-25-2010, 08:48 PM
Do we really think so poorly of Hollywood special effects studios that we think they'd make a costume that gets torn just by walking around in it? Be serious. If t-shirts from WalMart with designs printed on them don't rip and tear at the drop of a hat, why would a professionally designed costume for a big-budget movie?

Spectacular23
09-25-2010, 08:49 PM
Do we really think so poorly of Hollywood special effects studios that we think they'd make a costume that gets torn just by walking around in it? Be serious. If t-shirts from WalMart with designs printed on them don't rip and tear at the drop of a hat, why would a professionally designed costume for a big-budget movie?

THANK YOU!!!:bow: Printed webbing on a spidey suit should have no issues at all.

Chiroptera
09-25-2010, 09:20 PM
I like this a lot.

Thank you very Much!! :awesome:

Alex_Spider
09-26-2010, 09:25 AM
I' d like to see a cross between the ditko costume and the tv show one. I believe, if the gadgets he carries are external, then it would be easier to reach for

interaction and it would provide something more interesting visualy, than a tottaly non-practical, skin tight suit. Inside the belt would be spider-tracers, cellphone, web

cartriges. The web under the arms, except for staying true in the comics, would also serve a purpose for air gliding in extreme situations, such as running out of web in

the mid air. To sum up, this time i would like to see Peter' s scientific intellect to reflect in the little gadgets he creates and making them part of the costume. How

about his first costume is similar to the Raimi one, and he uses it for appearences in Tv shows, making acrobatics. No webshooters, no belt, etc. But when he

becomes a hero, he makes it more practical and start adding gadgets.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3397/spidermanue.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/spidermanue.jpg/)

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echostation
09-26-2010, 09:58 AM
PLEASE no web in the underpants and Groin gootch area... I mean what next, webbing in his other crevices like his ass or behind the ears around the nose?

If people want to do this whole webbing in the underarms and ass/groin area then just go the full 9 yards, the full Monty and make Spider-Man FULLY SCIENTIFICALLY ACCURATE by having him shoot webs out of his ass then swinging with his hands.... Otherwise NO webbing in the underarms or genito-anal region...

Alex_Spider
09-26-2010, 10:12 AM
Well it doesn' t have to be excactly real spider webbing. Just some kind of cloth that looks

like that. A good example is Spidey 2099, in Shattered dimensions.

socool
09-26-2010, 12:35 PM
I' d like to see a cross between the ditko costume and the tv show one. I believe, if the gadgets he carries are external, then it would be easier to reach for

interaction and it would provide something more interesting visualy, than a tottaly non-practical, skin tight suit. Inside the belt would be spider-tracers, cellphone, web

cartriges. The web under the arms, except for staying true in the comics, would also serve a purpose for air gliding in extreme situations, such as running out of web in

the mid air. To sum up, this time i would like to see Peter' s scientific intellect to reflect in the little gadgets he creates and making them part of the costume. How

about his first costume is similar to the Raimi one, and he uses it for appearences in Tv shows, making acrobatics. No webshooters, no belt, etc. But when he

becomes a hero, he makes it more practical and start adding gadgets.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3397/spidermanue.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/spidermanue.jpg/)

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no underarm webbing, no belt and no outboard webshooters. other than that; love it

spider-neil
09-26-2010, 12:45 PM
rules for the reboot costume

1. has to be better than the raimi costume. if it isn't better than the raimi costume you are better off USING the raimi costume.

socool
09-26-2010, 12:48 PM
rules for the reboot costume

1. has to be better than the raimi costume. if it isn't better than the raimi costume you are better off USING the raimi costume.
am i the only one that thought the raimi costume was only ok?

Spectacular23
09-26-2010, 01:26 PM
am i the only one that thought the raimi costume was only ok?

Nah. I thought it was pretty good. Just that i hope they took a reboot. The way i see it, if they copy raimi suit they be better off calling the film Spider-man 4.

spida-man
09-26-2010, 06:16 PM
THANK YOU!!!:bow: Printed webbing on a spidey suit should have no issues at all.

agreed.

spida-man
09-26-2010, 06:18 PM
rules for the reboot costume

1. has to be better than the raimi costume. if it isn't better than the raimi costume you are better off USING the raimi costume.


don't know how they could make it cooler than raimi's suit. that suit just screams "Bad-@$$"

but i'm fine with a more simplistic design as long as it looks right on film. all i know is that they better not copy/borrow any elements of raimi's suit since this is a reboot and should be different

nameless_hero
09-26-2010, 10:09 PM
Love the concept. Suit looks great and the approach to a practical and maturing look is great. Under arm webs have always been as favorite of mine, as well as the exposed shooters. I'm making this for Halloween!


http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3397/spidermanue.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/spidermanue.jpg/)

Alex The Great
09-26-2010, 11:32 PM
No Under arm webbing. It would look stupid in real life. The GA would be like "so...he's also part flying squirrel?"

The Slang
09-27-2010, 04:07 AM
I had a similar idea with the external webshooters/belt. I think I'd like them if they were thin, subtle and contained within the outlines of the red portions on the suits original design. Obviously they'd be red in colour, but maybe you could even line the flatter surfaces of the devices with fabric, so that they'd blend in with the other red sections of the costume. It could still have that uniform, one-piece look.

http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae319/slanguaj/ghdr.jpg

Alex_Spider
09-27-2010, 06:37 AM
Yeah my inspiration for making them red were these photos. Are those yours Slang? It is a

nice concept and i think they blend better with the costume than silver. And yes they could be

even more subtle. I'll give it a try.

The Slang
09-27-2010, 08:13 AM
I made the edited one (on the right). I'm not sure who the original picture belongs to, but I found it in this thread. Looking forward to your next attempt.

Edit: I wasn't saying that your design needed to be more subtle (if it seemed that way). I just meant that on the subject of external webshooters/belt for the new suit, I MAY approve if they were subtle enough.

IMO It's the belt that would have most reason to be external. Not sure how it would look with the suit sitting over the belt. He'd have to lift the suit up in order to expose the belt, like the cartoons... I guess it could work.

The Slang
09-27-2010, 08:47 AM
http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae319/slanguaj/spiderm.jpg

Here's a Spidey vs Morbius picture I drew a year or so ago. I was imagining this belt to be red, sewn into the upper half of the suit, with a triangular buckle on the front to create that point he has on the suit there.

chaseter
09-27-2010, 09:10 AM
No belt...Spider-Man is not Batman.

Alex The Great
09-27-2010, 09:41 AM
Belt on the inside? He can store spare webbing in there along with the Spider-Signal :awesome:

chaseter
09-27-2010, 09:57 AM
And then head back to the Spider-mobile?

Chris Wallace
09-27-2010, 11:09 AM
Utility belt-:down
Loose gloves-:down
Loose boots-:down
Outboard webshooters-:barf:

Alex_Spider
09-27-2010, 12:12 PM
So you want a skin tight suit with sole purpose for acrobatics and not having room or

interaction with any gadget. Well he may very well spray paint his body and we got the same

result. I don't think it hurts a little practicality like you guys make it to be.

chaseter
09-27-2010, 12:44 PM
I think gadgets are stupid imo. Batman is the gadget superhero. IMO organics are the way to go and no utility belt is the way to go. Peter can still be smart and not be fumbling in his room with high dollar equipment that he somehow managed to procure while being poor as dirt and remaining as the Bugle's photographer when he could be using his talents to make a lot more money. Spider tracers/Spider signal and his utility belt is really, really dumb imo.

Pac-Master
09-27-2010, 01:02 PM
Utility belt-:down
Loose gloves-:down
Loose boots-:down
Outboard webshooters-:barf:
Pretty much.

Alex The Great
09-27-2010, 01:12 PM
Alex Spider, I exhort you to change your username. There can only be one Alex :cmad:

bert19
09-27-2010, 01:12 PM
I'm a fan of a fairly classic red/blue spidey suit. Don't think they were too far off the mark with the suit Maguire wore in the last 3 movies.

Maybe a few small changes here and there, but no need for anything drastic in my opinion.

Ajendo
09-27-2010, 03:03 PM
Not too far off the mark? The Raimi red and blues were perfect.

Pumpkin_Bomb
09-27-2010, 03:57 PM
I wouldn't say perfect, as it did fall to several cliches of the "movie superhero costume," such as making things unnecessarily shiny, but I was very impressed with the fact that they didn't mess with the basic, overall look.

Alex The Great
09-27-2010, 04:16 PM
They aced the suit is SM2. All I want is slightly raised black webbing and sinister eyes. The Spider logos can be anything that isn't the beetle thing

Carcharodon
09-27-2010, 05:32 PM
PLEASE no web in the underpants and Groin gootch area... I mean what next, webbing in his other crevices like his ass or behind the ears around the nose?

If people want to do this whole webbing in the underarms and ass/groin area then just go the full 9 yards, the full Monty and make Spider-Man FULLY SCIENTIFICALLY ACCURATE by having him shoot webs out of his ass then swinging with his hands.... Otherwise NO webbing in the underarms or genito-anal region...That's actually no more scientifically accurate than having it come from his wrists. There isn't enough homology between spiders and humans, I think, to make a strong case for either.

...but it's ****ing fiction, so the argument is retarded to begin with.

Alex The Great
09-27-2010, 06:00 PM
Yeah, no one *****es that he can sense danger and stick to walls? They should go with web shooters for the sake of seperating themselves from the original trilogy

sabetoonth
09-27-2010, 06:25 PM
And then head back to the Spider-mobile?
I alughed SO hard at this!
http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae319/slanguaj/spiderm.jpg

Here's a Spidey vs Morbius picture I drew a year or so ago. I was imagining this belt to be red, sewn into the upper half of the suit, with a triangular buckle on the front to create that point he has on the suit there.
*Tilts head at "morbius"*The Hell?

Chris Wallace
09-27-2010, 07:12 PM
So you want a skin tight suit with sole purpose for acrobatics and not having room or

interaction with any gadget. Well he may very well spray paint his body and we got the same

result. I don't think it hurts a little practicality like you guys make it to be.

He can have gadgets but there's no need for them to be on display. He doesn't need to look like Batman. (Although I should point out that in the movies, Batman's belt has no visible compartments showing where any of his gadgets are held.) One of the most crucial aspects of Spider-Man's costume is the uniformity; its solid appearance. No stand-alone gloves, no bulges, no saggy boots. No visible seams or deviations between where one part ends and the next begins. And they have maintained this for 48 years despite the webshooters, despite the upgrade to said webshooters which enabled him to launch his tracers. Despite the utility belt which carries an ample supply of web cartridges, spare tracers, a camera, his belt light and even at one time a tracking device to locate his tracers. We never questioned when we saw him lift up his shirt and pull something from his belt. It looked cool, and that was all that matters. I for one am not willing to sacrifice that for the sake of realism. Somebody thought Hammond's costume would look more "realistic" if they added ONE bulky metal webshooter with a big-ass trigger that he never pressed, an equally bulky metal utility belt that he never reached into for anything, stand-alone gloves with visible zippers, and loose-fitting vinyl boots. All it did was detract from the illusion that this is Spider-Man. It was tacky and unnecessary.
And where did all this "realism" crap come from anyway? When did we start debating what's believable in a movie and what isn't? Movie audiences believe whatever you tell them. There is nothing less realistic than a magically-powered cyborg carrying a laser sword and strangling people with the power of his mind. And yet, a movie with such a character as one of its focal points reaped untold fortunes and nobody said a damn thing.
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu232/otherbliss/Darth.png
Or maybe there is something less realistic-like a time-travelling cyborg programmed to kill the as-yet unborn leader of a revolt against the machines. Or a man interfacing with the artificially-grown simulated body of an alien and deciding to become the real thing. Or a man developing superpowers in a computer-generated reality and being able to carry said powers into the real world.
My point is, it doesn't have to be believable to carry over to film. In fact, sometimes it's better if it isn't.

The Slang
09-28-2010, 04:21 AM
Funny thing is, star wars was majorly inspired by the hindu scriptures 'the vedas', which people -thousands of years ago- believed to be true. (come to think of it some still might) Also Avatar was loosely based on the sumerian creation story. As for matrix... I think you can guess what myth inspired that ;)

And on the spider-man suit being a one piece; The original drawings by ditko are pretty simplicit by todays standards. Spider-man always had a red band around his waist right? This red band always had a black outline right? Couldn't that be interpreted as a point where the suit divides? Likewise with the tops of the boots. And at multiple times, we see the pants seperated from the upper half of the suit in the comics/cartoons.

I think gadgets are stupid imo. Batman is the gadget superhero. IMO organics are the way to go and no utility belt is the way to go..

But this IS the character. The belt and webshooters were ALWAYS there. 'Spider-man' came after 'batman' and most likely drew some inspiration from it. I've even read spidey make a joke comparing his spider-signal to the bat signal. Were you bothered by all the obvious super-man nods in the raimi movies?

when he could be using his talents to make a lot more money. Spider tracers/Spider signal and his utility belt is really, really dumb imo.

Then it seems you like the potential of the spider-man character more than the character himself. I want to see him represented as I remember.

And btw, I'm sick of hearing the 'if he's so smart why aint he rich?' crap. I watched a tobey maguire interview not long ago and he said that he personally argued in defence of organics because of this reason.

One name: Nikola Tesla. A better mind than edison (and I believe even einstein) and he died DIRT POOR. We can thank him for alternating-current, the tesla coil, radio and ALL wireless broadcasting, Lasers, Neon lights Robotics and more. Living testimony that genius has nothing to do with being rich in this world.

rahan
09-28-2010, 05:35 AM
THANK YOU!!!:bow: Printed webbing on a spidey suit should have no issues at all.
Except that it looks cinematically underwhelming, cheap and has no "wow" factor whatsoever. Do you honestly believe that your average moviegoer is gong to take to printed webbing and a more "homemade" approach to the costume after they have been wowed by the Raimi suit? The GA will probably react to it with a big old "LAME"

The Slang
09-28-2010, 05:41 AM
Because the raimi suit was not lame? the irony...

And unless the average movie goer is a parrot or chimpanzee, they won't require something to be shiny in order for it to hold their attention.

rahan
09-28-2010, 05:52 AM
Because the raimi suit was not lame? the irony...

And unless the average movie goer is a parrot or chimpanzee, they won't require something to be shiny in order for it to hold their attention.

Not really, in fact the Raimi suit was proably the most excellent looking superhero costume back then. Imho, it is a contender for best suit ever together with the Iron Man suit.

It's not about holding attention, it's about what looks impressive on film and the Raimi suit looked impressive. It fullfilled one of the most important rules of cinema, considering its nature as a visual medium. It provided eye candy and that is as much as important as good storytelling. It took the comic design and made it visually interesting, it added a 3-dimensional feel to it and made it look sleek and dynamic while keeping true to all the essential design elements. What more can a comic fan wish for?

Chris Wallace
09-28-2010, 07:02 AM
Funny thing is, star wars was majorly inspired by the hindu scriptures 'the vedas', which people -thousands of years ago- believed to be true. (come to think of it some still might) Also Avatar was loosely based on the sumerian creation story. As for matrix... I think you can guess what myth inspired that ;)

And on the spider-man suit being a one piece; The original drawings by ditko are pretty simplicit by todays standards. Spider-man always had a red band around his waist right? This red band always had a black outline right? Couldn't that be interpreted as a point where the suit divides? Likewise with the tops of the boots. And at multiple times, we see the pants seperated from the upper half of the suit in the comics/cartoons.




I'm a little confused; are you defending the need for his gadgets to be exposed? Would you also want the bulge of Superman's cape to show beneath Clark Kent's clothes? Because that would be more realistic.
I actually said that he lifted up his shirt to retrieve things from his belt. The same way he pulled off his gloves to reload his webshooters or would take off his suit one piece at a time. But after he did that, the solid appearance was instantly restored. When he's wearing it as a whole, everything merges and flows together perfectly. And I see NO reason to change that.

Eggyman
09-28-2010, 07:08 AM
Not really, in fact the Raimi suit was proably the most excellent looking superhero costume back then. Imho, it is a contender for best suit ever together with the Iron Man suit.

It's not about holding attention, it's about what looks impressive on film and the Raimi suit looked impressive. It fullfilled one of the most important rules of cinema, considering its nature as a visual medium. It provided eye candy and that is as much as important as good storytelling. It took the comic design and made it visually interesting, it added a 3-dimensional feel to it and made it look sleek and dynamic while keeping true to all the essential design elements. What more can a comic fan wish for?

Yeh, the suit was great, but that doesn't mean it's the only way to do it.

Alex_Spider
09-28-2010, 07:08 AM
Well the Raimi suit definetly hit the nail as far as translation from the comics. On the other hand, i never liked the shape of the eyes and the shiny look overall, wich screamed commercial and over the top. And the biggest gripe the face plate that didn't allow him to express natural. And i don't mean Spidey should be all about realism, not at all. Just that there are some things you can take from the comics and adding another dimension of reality to them without changing drasticly the character to the point he becomes unrecognizable. And yes i agree that all these gadgets could be hidden, but then in a movie, it would clearly look fake how all flows back just that easy and to me that looks stupid.

Chris Wallace
09-28-2010, 07:14 AM
Like you can really see a lot of facial expression behind a mask that covers everything.
And what's wrong with commercialism? EVERY successful comic book movie has had that commercial element in the costumes and with good reason; they want people to come see the movie.

Eggyman
09-28-2010, 07:15 AM
Like you can really see a lot of facial expression behind a mask that covers everything.
And what's wrong with commercialism? EVERY successful comic book movie has had that commercial element in the costumes and with good reason; they want people to come see the movie.

Don't take it too far though. I don't want to see a Nike tick instead of a spider on the front and back of said suit.

Alex_Spider
09-28-2010, 07:34 AM
All i am saying guys is that most heroes have a vast history in comics to cover and many artits and writers. Why would you want in a reboot for him to wear the Raimi suit and not adapt a different style that is still recognizable as Spidey, but takes us in a another era of his comic publication. Is it that there isn't another way to make a successful Spidey suit? Well successfull doesn't mean perfect and polished to an extreme point. I mean look at the Ditko suit. Does it scream Raimi, or commercial? No, but that doesn't mean that either of them was crap. Just a slightly different itrerpretation of the same thing.

Alex_Spider
09-28-2010, 07:44 AM
Slang said: "Because the raimi suit was not lame? the irony...

And unless the average movie goer is a parrot or chimpanzee, they won't require something to be shiny in order for it to hold their attention."

Well said.

Oh and about the spider mobile joke. Just like Batman in the 60's Tv show had a number of lame gadgets and costume, doesn't mean that his batarang and belt are also lame.

The Slang
09-28-2010, 08:19 AM
I'm a little confused; are you defending the need for his gadgets to be exposed?.

Well no not really, I think it'd be more likely to turn out bad than good.
I'd prefer that he have the gadgets under the suit, and lift the gloves/shirt to expose them (like you said). But if they can't do this without creating unsightly bulges, then somekind of external casing or shell in those areas (not even gadgets necessarily), properly interwoven into the suit would actually make it look flatter and MORE uniform. But as I said, only in the condition of unsightly bulges. Which may be a problem if they include the webshooters/belt as I'd like them to.

chaseter
09-28-2010, 08:46 AM
Slang said: "Because the raimi suit was not lame? the irony...

And unless the average movie goer is a parrot or chimpanzee, they won't require something to be shiny in order for it to hold their attention."

Well said.

Oh and about the spider mobile joke. Just like Batman in the 60's Tv show had a number of lame gadgets and costume, doesn't mean that his batarang and belt are also lame.
Are you saying if they make the Spider-mobile awesome that it will be okay:huh:

Eggyman
09-28-2010, 08:48 AM
They can include them and not have bulges. Just don't actually have them there. But tell us and show us they're there and not have them there but have us believe they are.

Just like how he takes off his mask and we know for a fact that isn't how the mask isn't actually removed IRL.

The Slang
09-28-2010, 09:02 AM
fair enough

Eggyman
09-28-2010, 09:06 AM
Sorry for not making as much sense as I could have then; my girlfriend's dog was trying to fu** my leg.

Alex_Spider
09-28-2010, 09:10 AM
Ok. Let me explain if that was hard to understand. What i meant was that there are gadgets that no matter how cool you try to make them they will always be lame, like that bat-shark repellent etc. But with a batarang for isntance, there are more chances to look cool than lame.

chaseter
09-28-2010, 09:10 AM
But this IS the character. The belt and webshooters were ALWAYS there. 'Spider-man' came after 'batman' and most likely drew some inspiration from it. I've even read spidey make a joke comparing his spider-signal to the bat signal. Were you bothered by all the obvious super-man nods in the raimi movies?
The character is defined by so much more than just mech web shooters and Spider tracers. Peter Parker can be brilliant without a utility belt.

Spider-Man using his trusty utility belt is not in the same vein as Peter Parker running down the alley ripping apart his button down shirt to reveal his suit. I don't mind Pete messing with electronics and equipment in his room but the utility belt is over the top.

That was always one of the more ridiculous aspects of the comics. A brilliant kid with little money who barely gets by somehow has millions of dollars of equipment in his room and keeps his low paying job of taking pictures of Spider-Man for a guy who then turns around and smears him in the paper.

Then it seems you like the potential of the spider-man character more than the character himself. I want to see him represented as I remember.
This movie isn't being made just for you. Some people may want to see classic Iron Man using his built in roller skates to generate electricity to power his suit because he ran out of juice:dry:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/58/11skates.jpg
No thanks.

And btw, I'm sick of hearing the 'if he's so smart why aint he rich?' crap. I watched a tobey maguire interview not long ago and he said that he personally argued in defence of organics because of this reason.
I am sick of fans picking only parts of the comic that they want to see and whining when things aren't 100% accurate to their favorite source. The movies are an adaptation and another medium to tell the story. How lame would it be for the comics, cartoons, and movies to be all exactly the same? Plus, you also forget that Spidey has had dozens of comic runs throughout the years and things change, some things for the better. Good for Tobey...the movie was better for it. He gets bit by a genetically altered spider and has the ability to crawl on walls, have super strength, be super agile, and have precognition but no webs...was it a spider again that bit me? Or, was it an ant?

Under arm webbing is stupid...nobody wants to see it. But, that is classic Spidey!:cmad: The movie would be so better if Spider-Man had underarm webbing.:dry:

One name: Nikola Tesla. A better mind than edison (and I believe even einstein) and he died DIRT POOR. We can thank him for alternating-current, the tesla coil, radio and ALL wireless broadcasting, Lasers, Neon lights Robotics and more. Living testimony that genius has nothing to do with being rich in this world.
It would be the same thing as Nikola Tesla inventing devices in his room that he only keeps for himself and pays his water bill by working at the local paper. Totally the same thing! Tesla wasn't dirt poor, he had a lot of debt because he was doing a lot. His mind was running faster than his wallet. If that means that he is dirt poor, then Donald Trump, who has filed for bankrupty, is also extremely poor...maybe even was living in poverty at one point.

Eggyman
09-28-2010, 09:13 AM
Ok. Let me explain if that was hard to understand. What i meant was that there are gadgets that no matter how cool you try to make them they will always be lame, like that bat-shark repellent etc. But with a batarang for isntance, there are more chances to look cool than lame.

Notice how you keep talking about Batman rather than Spidey...

There's a reason for that.

Alex The Great
09-28-2010, 09:20 AM
Bingo. Spider-Man's belt (if he had one) should only have spare webbing and maybe a spider signal

chaseter
09-28-2010, 09:21 AM
And change for a refreshment.