Spider-Man Reboot Costume

[Alex_Spider]

I don't get you. What's the reason? Do you mean that Spidey is a different character and all his gadgets are lame? As spider mobile and webshooters are lame?

[Alex The Great]

Yeah, I'm sure it gets hot swinging around in those tights :awesome:

[Alex_Spider]

Hey Slang i modyfied a bit the belt to be more subtle and gave it a more redish color cheme but the thing is i don't know how more subtle you can make things to the point they don't look practical at all, so what's the poiont to include them. Alex the Great, how about the circle on the belt, instead of the spider signal was just a regular flash light. I believe it removes the conection between the bat signal. But man come on, you are up for web shooters and spider signal, but not spider tracers? What about his cellphone.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6284/spidermanu.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/spidermanu.jpg/)

[Eggyman]

I don't get you. What's the reason? Do you mean that Spidey is a different character and all his gadgets are lame? As spider mobile and webshooters are lame?

You talking to me?

No, I'm saying Spidey isn't well known for his gadgets and that's why you keep having to use Batman as an example.

[Eggyman]

Hey Slang i modyfied a bit the belt to be more subtle and gave it a more redish color cheme but the thing is i don't know how more subtle you can make things to the point they don't look practical at all, so what's the poiont to include them. Alex the Great, how about the circle on the belt, instead of the spider signal was just a regular flash light. I believe it removes the conection between the bat signal.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6284/spidermanu.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/spidermanu.jpg/)

You forgot his Mcgyver penknife and his Spidey skateboard (suitable for ages 8+ in stores now).

[Alex The Great]

The only gadget Spider-Man is known for is his web shooters. That's it, really$ There's that spidey flash light think but that's it.

[chaseter]

I don't get you. What's the reason? Do you mean that Spidey is a different character and all his gadgets are lame? As spider mobile and webshooters are lame?

Are you saying that Iron Man's roller skates are lame?

[Alex The Great]

SEIZE HIM!!! :cmad:

[Alex_Spider]

Ok ..Eggyman first. I just compared some gadgets to clarifiy things. That i don't think all gadgets are cool. And chaseter what's the point fot IM roller skates? Yes like i see it now, they look to me lame. What's your point?

[Alex_Spider]

Whoa what's with this "SEIZE HIM!!!":cmad:

What is this..Are for real? Cause i could easily make angry faces too.

I thought we were only expressing opinions here.

[Eggyman]

You don't make angry face!

[chaseter]

Ok ..Eggyman first. I just compared some gadgets to clarifiy things. That i don't think all gadgets are cool. And chaseter what's the point fot IM roller skates? Yes like i see it now, they look to me lame. What's your point?

Spider-Man's utility belt looks lame to me. What about the GA? Do you think they want to see Iron Man rolling around on skates or Spider-Man with a utility belt? They are both part of the character's history and both important aspects to the character. So what do we do!?

[Eggyman]

Chase, don't reason with him.

Dead man walkin'. Release the hounds!

[terry78]

If this movie does not include the Spider-Car, I am boycotting the **** out of the entire production.

[Ken-Kaniff]

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[Alex The Great]

Ken, we're just kidding

[Ken-Kaniff]

I know, so am I. But Mr. Freeze isn't!:awesome:

[Alex The Great]

Alright, as long as we're on the same page :up:

[chaseter]

But Arnold isn't kidding.

[The Slang]

I don't mind Pete messing with electronics and equipment in his room but the utility belt is over the top.

Well it is practical though. No one accuses police officers of being batman-like because they have utility belts. If he's gonna carry things (web cartridges primarily) then the belts as good a place as any.

This movie isn't being made just for you. Some people may want to see classic Iron Man using his built in roller skates to generate electricity to power his suit because he ran out of juice.

The webshooters and belt made a few more appearances than iron mans rollerskates. To be fair, I'm not fully against modernizing the source material. the 90's animated series (aside from the censorship) is pretty much my ideal spidey depiction. But this movie is being made -in part atleast- for pre-existing fans and alot of them (me included) liked the webshooter and belt.

He gets bit by a genetically altered spider and has the ability to crawl on walls, have super strength, be super agile, and have precognition but no webs...was it a spider again that bit me? Or, was it an ant?.

It was a spider obviously, because he wakes up with 8 limbs instead of 6 in Amazing Spider-man #100...joking
But seriously this argument is flawed IMO. Spiders are well known for being poisonous yet he doesn't inherit that ability. And spiders as hunters and ambush predators are more renown for their speed and reflexes than ants. Plus spiders don't shoot fully formed webs but I'm getting off track here...

It would be the same thing as Nikola Tesla inventing devices in his room that he only keeps for himself and pays his water bill by working at the local paper. Totally the same thing! Tesla wasn't dirt poor, he had a lot of debt because he was doing a lot. His mind was running faster than his wallet. If that means that he is dirt poor, then Donald Trump, who has filed for bankrupty, is also extremely poor...maybe even was living in poverty at one point.

Tesla DID invent things he kept to himself. Tesla WAS forced into low paid labour. Some inventions were prevented from being financed (by jp morgan for one) because they would have caused massive loss of profits for the oil and electric industries. He divided the blueprints for his secret death-ray into pieces, and divided them amongst nations so that no one would have exclusive access to this technology. At the time of his death he was impoverished and living in a small apartment. How's donald trump doing?

Oh and please I've been wanting to ask, who's that in your avatar?

[chaseter]

dbl

[chaseter]

Why doesn't every hero have a utility belt? Function + Fashion.

My avy is Olivia Munn...the hottest nerd ever on this Earth.

[Chris Wallace]

So you want a skin tight suit with sole purpose for acrobatics and not having room or

interaction with any gadget. Well he may very well spray paint his body and we got the same

result. I don't think it hurts a little practicality like you guys make it to be.

:facepalm: I probably should have directed the Superman question at you. Nobody here is pushing for Dr. Manhattan with webs.

[Chris Wallace]

Hey Slang i modyfied a bit the belt to be more subtle and gave it a more redish color cheme but the thing is i don't know how more subtle you can make things to the point they don't look practical at all, so what's the poiont to include them. Alex the Great, how about the circle on the belt, instead of the spider signal was just a regular flash light. I believe it removes the conection between the bat signal. But man come on, you are up for web shooters and spider signal, but not spider tracers? What about his cellphone.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6284/spidermanu.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/spidermanu.jpg/)

How is a pouch belt more subtle?

[chaseter]

I hope we get a story line of Peter either losing his belt or having it stolen. It will be the best story ever.

[Chris Wallace]

Didn't they do that on "The Batman"?

[Alex The Great]

And when he loses his belt, his pants fall down

[chaseter]

Wokka wokka.

[Alex_Spider]

Wow..! I' m really stunned with the ego of some of you guys in here. I didn't know i had to post in a public forum, an opinion that pleases only some of you best. That' s how you feel a better person? By insulting my opinion and posting like smartass and macho? Way to go people! Oh and...did i ever said that every gadget that has appeared in a hero's comic history is cool, and has to appear in a film? Well, if that is all you understood from my post, then good for you then. I am not gonna explain for a millionth time the same thing. Just to clear some things because i thought i was talking to grown men and you took it far by insulting and trying to make me admit that the ideas i presented are wrong. How mature..Just like a 12 year old. It's one thing to disagree with a person's opinion and a different thing what you guys do.

[chaseter]

It's fine to have an opinion, but the utility belt for Spider-Man is one of the worst things you can do to the character on the silver screen and the GA will hate it.

Spider-Man isn't the Great Detective. He has no need to have a utility belt with 6-8 pouches. No one wants to see Spider-Man fumbling around in his utility belt while he is chasing bad guys or going to the scene of the crime to bust out his gadgets. That isn't what Spider-Man is about, that isn't what defines the character. He is still Spider-Man without his utility belt. Batman is not because Batman's gadgets define who he is.

[Alex The Great]

Exactly chase. The only thing that should come out of a belt is spare web cartridges (spelling?). And it should be hidden under his suit.

[Alex_Spider]

See what you do..You claim your opinion is the right one, as if you have asked all people in the world, one by one what is better for a SM costume and what you personal believe. There are people that like external belt and people who don't. That's how it goes. And again this is a public forum. Let everybody like what they want. Don't try to change their opinion.

[Alex The Great]

In that case, I can't wait to watch the movie and see Spider-Man bust out the Spider-Rubber Gloves and Spider-Gas Mask :up:


Note: I agree with you, but i'm just sayin' :o

[Carcharodon]

....how do you guys feel about Spider-Tracers?

[Alex The Great]

I would LOVE them! You can buy GPS systems now. I'm sure Peter could make little electronic nodes or whatever, screw around with the GPS, and poof, the GPS system tracks down the little node thing. Plus i'd love to see Spider-Man standing on a roof top staring at a GPS and the thing says "Go Left 2 Miles and arrive at *Electro's house*" :awesome:

[Ken-Kaniff]

I would LOVE them! You can buy GPS systems now. I'm sure Peter could make little electronic nodes or whatever, screw around with the GPS, and poof, the GPS system tracks down the little node thing. Plus i'd love to see Spider-Man standing on a roof top staring at a GPS and the thing says "Go Left 2 Miles and arrive at *Electro's house*" :awesome:
Or "Go right 1 Mile and arrive at the PLAYBOY Mansion!" ?:awesome:;)

[Carcharodon]

I would LOVE them!Same here. I almost wish they were incorporated in Raimi's films...perhaps the second or third. I really wanted them to showcase his practical intelligence rather than just his academic achievement, you know?

[Chris Wallace]

....how do you guys feel about Spider-Tracers?

I have no firm opinion either way. If they were used and STILL didn't result in Spidey carrying excess bulk, I'm all for it.
@ Alex Spider: you post an unpopular opinion in a public forum, you have to be prepared for the backlash. You are proposing bucking 40+ years worth of tradition in a way that would arguably impact the character even more than the organic webbing did. The design looks like he belongs in Batman's camp. If I saw that image connected to a movie or comic or ANYTHING, my first thought would probably be that Spidey had lost his powers and had to improvise. And nobody is criticizing YOU so much as the suggestion. Bottom line-we don't want Spidey wearing a utility belt and outboard webshooters. Plain and simple.

[chaseter]

See what you do..You claim your opinion is the right one, as if you have asked all people in the world, one by one what is better for a SM costume and what you personal believe. There are people that like external belt and people who don't. That's how it goes. And again this is a public forum. Let everybody like what they want. Don't try to change their opinion.

I promise. I am not saying this to be douchey, I am saying this because it is true. Hardcore comic fans aren't the only people they make these movies for and when they do, they fail miserably at the box office. When kids draw Spider-Man...do they include his utility belt? When kids want to be Spider-Man for Halloween, do they make sure to tell their parents that they need a utility belt? When kids buy action figures, do they decide that they don't want a figuring that does not include Spidey's utility belt? Not today. I think they did away with the outside belt in the 80's or 90's and he kept his cartridges inside his suit.

Not only that, but the movies are their own entity. It is okay for the movies to be a little independent and take some liberties. As long as the core of the character is there and they don't completely butcher the characters within that universe then it is perfectly fine. Take the bat mobile for example. They completely changed it and you know what...it worked great. Spider-Man's utility belt is just one of those frivolous little things that Stan Lee threw in there to give his character more to do over a 10 year run. That is completely understandable. But, in a 2 hour movie trying to encompass years of comic literature, some frivolous things have to be cut and also understandably so.

But once again, his belt doesn't define who he is as a character so if it gets cut, it should be nothing to gripe about. It's okay to have an opinion but don't get upset when you get met with opposition. Looking back to the TDK threads about the Joker's makeup. You wouldn't believe how many people whined about him not being permawhite. But you know what...TDK was a great movie. Did makeup and scars instead of a chemical accident affect the movie?

[El Payaso]

Bingo. Spider-Man's belt (if he had one) should only have spare webbing and maybe a spider signal

:argh:

If he has mechanical web-shooters he'll need to carry spares. But Spider-signal??? Aside from Black Cat, does Spiderman need to rip Batman off this much?

[Alex The Great]

Hey, he'd just surprise some thugs by shining the light at them. I don't really want it, but it'd be funny :shrug:

[spidermanJLA!~]

:argh:

If he has mechanical web-shooters he'll need to carry spares. But Spider-signal??? Aside from Black Cat, does Spiderman need to rip Batman off this much?
I think that black cat came out when catwoman was still in a purple dress.

[Alex The Great]

Oh God, let's please not go to that debate :csad:

[spidermanJLA!~]

Sorry

[Parker Wayne]

Even though the idea of both sounds stupid, didn't he have a Spider signal and a Spider-mobile in the comics at some point?

[Spidey_62]

Even though the idea of both sounds stupid, didn't he have a Spider signal and a Spider-mobile in the comics at some point?
Yeah. He's had the spider-signal since issue #3 and still has it to this day. I think it would be cool seeing him use the spider-signal on film just for a quick scene.

[Alex The Great]

Yeah, he could just use it to blind the bad guys or whatever . He could find some guys in the act, turn on the light and ask "so what do you guys think, to much?"

[Spidey_62]

Yeah, he could just use it to blind the bad guys or whatever . He could find some guys in the act, turn on the light and ask "so what do you guys think, to much?"
Something along the lines of that would be cool, yeah.

[Parker Wayne]

Yeah, he could just use it to blind the bad guys or whatever . He could find some guys in the act, turn on the light and ask "so what do you guys think, to much?"

That actually sounds pretty funny :funny:

[The Slang]

The belt needs to atleast have his spare cartridges on it. Where else would he carry them?
And what's the problem with the spider-signal? It's just a flashlight. Captain stacy doesn't shine it into the air when spideys needed. I think alot of you are too fixated on fashion over practicality here. Would you tell a council worker to remove his flashlight-hardhat because it was 'just too over the top'? They'd say get stuffed, they need that in their line of work, just as spidey does. If he has to go into the sewers or the power goes out suddenly... what's he gonna do? You need to show that he thinks ahead and is resourceful.
I mean, spidey is basically a self appointed police officer/fireman/paramedic. None of those people would go out without a flashlight, amongst other equipment.

I think his belt should store:
*web cartridges
*spider-signal
*spider-tracers/tracker
*digital camera

That's all he needs.

[Alex The Great]

If he was a photogropher, he wouldn't be able to put a proffesional camera on his belt. A simple digital camera doesn't cut it

[The Slang]

Yeah. He's had the spider-signal since issue #3 and still has it to this day. I think it would be cool seeing him use the spider-signal on film just for a quick scene.

One of my favourite scenes in TAS is when spidey first encounters Hobie Brown/Prowler. Spidey turns on his signal and swings around a corner. The light shines back into the alley from around the corner and remains stationary, giving the impression that spider-man has stopped moving. Hobie raises his gun and steps around the corner, only to see the light being suspended by a web, before he is ambushed by spidey.

[Alex The Great]

That is awesome Slang!

[The Slang]

If he was a photogropher, he wouldn't be able to put a proffesional camera on his belt. A simple digital camera doesn't cut it

Photos from digital cameras, especially candid celebrity shots are used in the media all the time. Even phone cameras.

[Alex The Great]

But for a newspaper? They use professional cameras. Most paparazzi lug around huge cameras

[Parker Wayne]

Its a movie. I'm pretty sure no one will really care how big the camera is if it looks like a Nikon SLR camera.

[sabetoonth]

If they dont use a huge ass camera I'm boycotting the movie! :cmad:


:oldrazz:

[Parker Wayne]

Also, keep in mind that Peter's a teenager with money problems and probably wouldn't even be on the Daily Bugle staff if he wasn't able to get pictures of Spiderman, especially given his equipment if you're talking "realism". I don't like thinking in terms of realism all the times, but its not bad sometimes.

[Alex The Great]

He could probably start out with a crappy digital camera, then use the money to get a new camera

[The Slang]

Technology is further ahead in the marvel universe anyway. I'd even like a fantastic four reference in the background to establish that he's in that world.

[Alex The Great]

they can't. Two different companies

Plus they're rebooting FF so....

[The Slang]

But aunt may was able to mention superman by name in spider-man 1. "College, a job, you're not superman you know."

Should superman even exist in parkers world?

[sabetoonth]

He'd be a fictional character anyway

[El Payaso]

I think that black cat came out when catwoman was still in a purple dress.

But after the 1966 TV show Catwoman wore the exact same black tight suit with the exact same mask around the eyes than Black Cat. Sorry, it has to be said.

Yeah. He's had the spider-signal since issue #3 and still has it to this day. I think it would be cool seeing him use the spider-signal on film just for a quick scene.

If he's using that, then I demand a Spider-cave and let's end it!

But aunt may was able to mention superman by name in spider-man 1. "College, a job, you're not superman you know."

Should superman even exist in parkers world?

No.

And another thing that shouldn't exist is the idea that DC references such as that - or the barefaced Superman tm shirt opening - are somehow cool or funny. Since Raimi's out this is a great chance to leave that kind of cheap cheese behind.

[Parker Wayne]

If he's using that, then I demand a Spider-cave and let's end it!


While we're at it lets add Spider-surfing and Spider-shark repellent!

[Alex_Spider]

"you post an unpopular opinion in a public forum, you have to be prepared for the backlash. You are proposing bucking 40+ years worth of tradition in a way that would arguably impact the character even more than the organic webbing did. The design looks like he belongs in Batman's camp. If I saw that image connected to a movie or comic or ANYTHING, my first thought would probably be that Spidey had lost his powers and had to improvise. And nobody is criticizing YOU so much as the suggestion. Bottom line-we don't want Spidey wearing a utility belt and outboard webshooters. Plain and simple."

Ok..So if my post is not popular enough (always according to you) you start the backlash and smartass words? That's how it goes here? What right do you have? Relax, i am not the head of Spiderman production team. My opinion is not gonna matter to Marc Webb. So why do you keep posting the same thing all over again. I got it. You disliked my manip. But don't keep telling me it is wrong. Because you are wasting your time. Oh and "bottom line-" it doesn't matter what you, or some people want for Spidey.That's not gonna stop me post a manip that i like. You are just expressing personal preferences. Just like me. You don't own the character or this forum. Plain and simple.

[Alex_Spider]

Yeah spider tracers definetly could work. And the signal too. Spider signal or simple flash light. I could take one of these.

[Chris Wallace]

I promise. I am not saying this to be douchey, I am saying this because it is true. Hardcore comic fans aren't the only people they make these movies for and when they do, they fail miserably at the box office. When kids draw Spider-Man...do they include his utility belt? When kids want to be Spider-Man for Halloween, do they make sure to tell their parents that they need a utility belt? When kids buy action figures, do they decide that they don't want a figuring that does not include Spidey's utility belt? Not today. I think they did away with the outside belt in the 80's or 90's and he kept his cartridges inside his suit.

Not only that, but the movies are their own entity. It is okay for the movies to be a little independent and take some liberties. As long as the core of the character is there and they don't completely butcher the characters within that universe then it is perfectly fine. Take the bat mobile for example. They completely changed it and you know what...it worked great. Spider-Man's utility belt is just one of those frivolous little things that Stan Lee threw in there to give his character more to do over a 10 year run. That is completely understandable. But, in a 2 hour movie trying to encompass years of comic literature, some frivolous things have to be cut and also understandably so.

But once again, his belt doesn't define who he is as a character so if it gets cut, it should be nothing to gripe about. It's okay to have an opinion but don't get upset when you get met with opposition. Looking back to the TDK threads about the Joker's makeup. You wouldn't believe how many people whine about him not being permawhite. But you know what...TDK was a great movie. Did makeup and scars instead of a chemical accident affect the movie? Did a fire instead of acid creating Two Face ruin TDK? Will Spidey without his utility belt ruin the reboot?

Some would argue that the changes to Joker & Two-Face DID affect TDK, but not enough to make it unenjoyable.
You brought up merchandising, which is another aspect that we shouldn't ignore. Nobody wants a two-hour toy commercial but let's be real about it; Much as Sony wants to sell tickets, they also want to sell lunchboxes, t-shirts, back-packs, pajamas, action figures, Halloween costumes and party decorations. This means that above all, Spider-Man's look must be pleasing to the eye. Functionality is a distant second on their list of concerns. And it should be. Spider-Man's look is iconic and tampering with it should truly be kept at a minimum.

[Chris Wallace]

"you post an unpopular opinion in a public forum, you have to be prepared for the backlash. You are proposing bucking 40+ years worth of tradition in a way that would arguably impact the character even more than the organic webbing did. The design looks like he belongs in Batman's camp. If I saw that image connected to a movie or comic or ANYTHING, my first thought would probably be that Spidey had lost his powers and had to improvise. And nobody is criticizing YOU so much as the suggestion. Bottom line-we don't want Spidey wearing a utility belt and outboard webshooters. Plain and simple."

Ok..So if my post is not popular enough (always according to you) you start the backlash and smartass words? That's how it goes here? What right do you have? Relax, i am not the head of Spiderman production team. My opinion is not gonna matter to Marc Webb. So why do you keep posting the same thing all over again. I got it. You disliked my manip. But don't keep telling me it is wrong. Because you are wasting your time. Oh and "bottom line-" it doesn't matter what you, or some people want for Spidey.That's not gonna stop me post a manip that i like. You are just expressing personal preferences. Just like me. You don't own the character or this forum. Plain and simple.

WHoa, whoa, whoa. Was I being a smartass? I didn't like the suggestion/design and I told you why. I gave a detailed, articulated explanation as to why I thought it was a bad idea. Plain and simple. Why are you being so sensitive? SOme others may have made some Adam West references but it was all in fun. Don't be so uptight. The suit looks like Batman gave it to him. Period. And when it comes to costumes, many of us are gravitating back to the "style over functionality" mindset.

[Alex_Spider]

How is it that you 're okay with Spidey costume being a merchandise star and all that, and you hate to death the SR suit. You hate the plastic shield, the plastic look overall etc., if i am not mistaken. Just to clarifiy you. I am not telling that i like the SR suit and you are wrong. Just that it seems to me a contradiction from you. And again you guys keep saying Spider-man should this, Spider-man should that. You should express personal preferences, not trying to define every comic book character as if you 've created them.

[Alex_Spider]

Well you might not were a smartass, but other guys sure did. I don't have a problem if you don't like something i post. Just don't force me your preference. I didn't post it only for you. And you guys were sensitive and upitght from the moment i posted my manip.

[Eggyman]

Deep breaths, dude. Let's not blow things out of proportion :)

[Alex_Spider]

Mmm..Yeah right..Whatever

[Chris Wallace]

How is it that you 're okay with Spidey costume being a merchandise star and all that, and you hate to death the SR suit. You hate the plastic shield, the plastic look overall etc., if i am not mistaken. Just to clarifiy you. I am not telling that i like the SR suit and you are wrong. Just that it seems to me a contradiction from you. And again you guys keep saying Spider-man should this, Spider-man should that. You should express personal preferences, not trying to define every comic book character as if you created them.

I'm not contradicting myself at all. Not that I see what one has to do with the other, but I hated the execution of the Superman Returns suit. If you read my previous posts on it, I liked the fact that they gave him a raised shield but I didn't like anything else that they did with it. The dark colors, the design of the boots, the symbol on the belt, the shield was too small and I don't know WHAT the hell the cape was made from but it just looked wrong. It didn't look good to me. I never felt like I was looking at Superman. My argument regarding Spider-Man is that I want him to look stylish and I feel that with the SR suit, they failed miserably at achieving that.

[Eggyman]

Mmm..Yeah right..Whatever

Ahh, so you're just an arse with a bad attitude, eh?

You'll go far.

[Alex_Spider]

But the general hate about the SR costume is that it looked like a plastic merchandising toy and didn't have the magic the original had. How are not those 2 connected? Anyway. I don't need any further answer. You answered what i wanted.

[Alex_Spider]

Yeah i learned from you. Thanks

[Eggyman]

You're welcome. Please do come again.

[Alex_Spider]

Yeah i will.

[Chris Wallace]

But the general hate about the SR costume is that it looked like a plastic merchandising toy and didn't have the magic the oroginal had. How are not those 2 connected? Anyway. I don't need any further answer. You answered what i wanted.

Again, I am not saying that merchandising should be the PRIMARY concern (Batman & Robin) but marketability should be a factor. And I'm not concerned with what other people said about the SR suit-I thought it was just plain ugly. I never said it looked like a toy. Not once. I said it looked like crap. There's a difference. I will agree that it lacked the magic of the original, but I don't feel that it looked good from a merchandising standpoint either. So I'm not contradicting myself at all.

[Alex_Spider]

Ok.I get it

[Eggyman]

So what are your views on spider underwear? Like should it be boxers, briefs, or thongs? I noticed in Spidey 3 when he emptied his boot of sand, he wasn't wearing any socks--should he? Does it matter? Would Mr Fantastic be able to design him some non-stinkable underwear for under his good ol' red and blues?

I wonder if his underwear turned black when he had the symbiot...?

[Alex_Spider]

Whatever you say dude.

[Ken-Kaniff]

Anyways, what about the black suit guys? If by any chance they will make that story again, do you want the ORIGINAL suit (like in the Comics & TAS):

http://oi55.tinypic.com/1yl8cw.jpg


Or a black version of the RED & BLUE suit, like Raimi's version:
http://oi55.tinypic.com/14oazb9.jpg


While I didn't really hated Raimi's version, I have to say that personally I would be preffer if they would use the original black suit this time around, like in The Animated Series & the Comics!

[spidermanJLA!~]

But aunt may was able to mention superman by name in spider-man 1. "College, a job, you're not superman you know."

Should superman even exist in parkers world?


Meh, This always happens. DC and Marvel exist in both universes, except in the DC universe Marvel is fictional, and for marvel it is the other way around.

Even in Batman: Arkham Asylum, Joker said "Our friendly neighborhood rodent is on his way"I really hope they do Marvel vs DC someday....

[Alex_Spider]

ORIGINAL. I hope so

[spidermanJLA!~]

Anyways, what about the black suit guys? If by any chance they will make that story again, do you want the ORIGINAL suit (like in the Comics & TAS):

http://oi55.tinypic.com/1yl8cw.jpg


Or a black version of the RED & BLUE suit, like Raimi's version:
http://oi55.tinypic.com/14oazb9.jpg


While I didn't really hated Raimi's version, I have to say that personally I would be preffer if they would use the original black suit this time around, like in The Animated Series & the Comics!


I was sooooo disappointed when I saw that crappy suit! COMICS ALL THE WAY! I saw a manip of that suit somewhere on the boards with the comic version, and it was Awesome!

[Eggyman]

Whatever you say dude.

Can you not lighten up? Just have some fun? just because i don't agree with your costume preferences doesn't mean we have to be snarky with each other.

[Alex_Spider]

I am lighten up and i do have fun. I just told you whatever you say, you're right. I have nothing else to add.

[chaseter]

Raimi's symbiote suit > the comics/cartoon any day of the week. The comics/cartoon was just a simple black monotone suit. That would look terrible on screen. It would basically be a black jump suit. Raimi's suit gave it some depth and it looked like a snake to me so I really thought that was awesome. It looks like scales.

Now the spider, which is what I think most of you up there have a problem with, I will agree with. I would have liked the spider emblem to have been white and much larger. But, the suit looks great. I don't want to see a sleek, shiny, black suit Spider-Man like in the comics/cartoon. The reason they did that anyways was because you can't draw black webs on a black suit and of course it is much more simpler to color.

[Eggyman]

Raimi's symbiote suit > the comics/cartoon any day of the week. The comics/cartoon was just a simple black monotone suit. That would look terrible on screen. It would basically be a black jump suit. Raimi's suit gave it some depth and it looked like a snake to me so I really thought that was awesome. It looks like scales.

Now the spider, which is what I think most of you up there have a problem with, I will agree with. I would have liked the spider emblem to have been white and much larger. But, the suit looks great. I don't want to see a sleek, shiny, black suit Spider-Man like in the comics/cartoon. The reason they did that anyways was because you can't draw black webs on a black suit and of course it is much more simpler to color.

Can I agree with you?

[chaseter]

We can haz babee?

[Eggyman]

Yeh, then sell it to Alex Spider. Imagine a baby with pouches and bracelets.

[Alex_Spider]

Ok. I will buy it.

[Eggyman]

I'll warn you, this will have Chaseter's DNA too, so expect lots or crying and wetting the bed.

[Alex The Great]

And it's first word will be an expletive

[Alex_Spider]

No problemo.

[chaseter]

I'll warn you, this will have Chaseter's DNA too, so expect lots or crying and wetting the bed.

And pooping in self defense.

[Eggyman]

And pooping in self defense.

Do you... throw it at your attackers? Like an enraged chimp :lmao:

[Gianakin_]

The biggest problem with the S3 black suit, imo, was that Raimi handled it the completely wrong way, script-wise. In one scene he used it as if the symbiote wI'm sure they can do something with that material. Or, even better, do it the GL way. CG enhancement.

However, let's se a classical suit that works first, and then we'll ge to the symbiote suit. It's a loooooooooooooong way till that.

Speaking of the classic suit... who's open to the idea of the web- backpack he sometimes uses to carry things in the comics?

[Alex_Spider]

"However, let's se a classical suit that works first, and then we'll ge to the symbiote suit. It's a loooooooooooooong way till that."

Very true.

[chaseter]

Speaking of the classic suit... who's open to the idea of the web- backpack he sometimes uses to carry things in the comics?

Spider-Man is not a spider hobo.

[Gianakin_]

Spider-Man is not a spider hobo.

I'm naturally not talking about carrying it all the time. Didn't he use it once in SM2?

[chaseter]

If he does it once that would be fine...I wouldn't roll my eyes. Now if he always did it...I would roll my eyes. I think in SM2 he puts his clothes and items on a web somewhere up high in the city.

[Alex_Spider]

You mean the Pizza pack? I have ages to see this movie

[chaseter]

Yeah he did it with the pizzas.

[Gianakin_]

Yeah, the pizza pack. Didn't look too bad. And, yeah, I wouldn't want him to have it all the time.

[Chris Wallace]

Anyways, what about the black suit guys? If by any chance they will make that story again, do you want the ORIGINAL suit (like in the Comics & TAS):

http://oi55.tinypic.com/1yl8cw.jpg


Or a black version of the RED & BLUE suit, like Raimi's version:
http://oi55.tinypic.com/14oazb9.jpg


While I didn't really hated Raimi's version, I have to say that personally I would be preffer if they would use the original black suit this time around, like in The Animated Series & the Comics!
Okay-here's an example of posting an unpopular opinion and being prepared for negative responses:
I'm hoping to NEVER see the black suit or anything pertaining to the symbiote saga again. That said, I actually prefer the version from the movies. It looks more like something Spidey would wear or would design for himself. It looks more like Spider-Man. Over the years I've grown to like the "classic" black suit less and less. I also really liked the idea of Venom's look NOT being identical to Spidey's.

[Alex The Great]

I wouldn't mind a scene in the movie where Peter over sleeps and has to web-sling to school. He'd be carrying his school bag and everything. It'd be hilarious :awesome:

[Chris Wallace]

Wouldn't be the worst idea. Or seeing him rush to class after a rescue-and actually MAKE it.

[Ken-Kaniff]

Okay-here's an example of posting an unpopular opinion and being prepared for negative responses:
I'm hoping to NEVER see the black suit or anything pertaining to the symbiote saga again.
I believe many people think like this because SM3 flopped. But that doesn't mean the story can't be done properly.

Oh well, thanks for sharing your opinion.
I wouldn't mind a scene in the movie where Peter over sleeps and has to web-sling to school. He'd be carrying his school bag and everything. It'd be hilarious :awesome:
lol!

[Alex The Great]

http://i45.tinypic.com/2lbndki.jpg

Sinister eyes damn it! :cmad:

[Immortalfire]

OMG..I see something in teh spider-eye! :eek:


:hehe:

[Jumpin' Jack]

OMG could it be Aunt Carnage?

[Eggyman]

No, it's Raimi. Spidey's going to kick his arse.

[rcazzy]

Okay-here's an example of posting an unpopular opinion and being prepared for negative responses:
I'm hoping to NEVER see the black suit or anything pertaining to the symbiote saga again. That said, I actually prefer the version from the movies. It looks more like something Spidey would wear or would design for himself. It looks more like Spider-Man. Over the years I've grown to like the "classic" black suit less and less. I also really liked the idea of Venom's look NOT being identical to Spidey's.

I'm the opposite. I'm hoping it's kept for a sequel somewhere in line and made into a dedicated film with the symbiote characters (primarily Venom and Carnage).

You dislike the classic costume and preferred Spider-Man 3's version, but I found the film version very bland and boring and the character of the symbiote's role not handled very well.

One of the reasons I like the classic symbiote different from Spidey's standard costume, is just because it was the symbiote adapting and changing, ultimately making him not our Spider-Man.

Venom's appearance is built on the hatred Brock felt toward Parker and the symbiote embraced that spider as a symbol of those feelings.

If the suit was given an organic, fluid look with tendrils and movement, it could be well done, I believe.

I hope also for no dancing in the street or jazz clubs. ;)

[Ken-Kaniff]

^^And no suit kept in a suitcase! lol I mean it's alive, it's a sentient being in the end, not an actual costume. It is also supposed to stick to Peter and he shouldn't take it off anymore (until he realizes that he changed bla bla).

I found Raimi's idea of Peter having the symbiote in a case and the fact that it was "dead" completely stupid!

[Alex_Spider]

Yeah those things were stupid and hurt the overall feel of the movie. Many wasted opportunities.

[chaseter]

^^And no suit kept in a suitcase! lol I mean it's alive, it's a sentient being in the end, not an actual costume. It is also supposed to stick to Peter and he shouldn't take it off anymore (until he realizes that he changed bla bla).

I found Raimi's idea of Peter having the symbiote in a case and the fact that it was "dead" completely stupid!

A sentient being that is black ooze morphing into colorful street clothes is kind of dumb. It covered his suit and saturated it. It was weak and needed a host to survive. It knew that Peter wore that costume most of the time so it stayed on it.

I can't believe I am defending SM3:wow::csad:

[Mace Bloodstone]

Whoa, crazy

http://i55.tinypic.com/2uzqe0m.jpg
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=27464

[sabetoonth]

What spider suit is that?

[mre]

It's a new one, debuting soon-ish.

[NinjaCarm]

http://i45.tinypic.com/2lbndki.jpg

Sinister eyes damn it! :cmad:

About time some supporters! I've been saying sinister small eyes from the start of this reboot. No big eyes, that was Raimi, that costume was great.

Time to differentiate people, and go back to the basics, small sinister eyes and a nice John Romita Sr look.

'Nuff Said.

[Alex The Great]

I like the eyes in the pic I posted. They're small, but not too small :up:

[Parker Wayne]

I really don't think they will ever go with eyes that are bigger than what we saw in Raimi's film. If anything they would make them smaller.

[Alex The Great]

Yes. I don't want Spider-Man to look like he's squinting, but I don't want him to be wide eyed either

[Chris Wallace]

I believe many people think like this because SM3 flopped. But that doesn't mean the story can't be done properly.


First off, it didn't flop. Fanboys may have jeered the portrayal of their beloved symbiote stalker but it actually pulled down more money than its predecessor. if it had flopped there would have never been plans in place to do a 4th movie with Raimi & Co. Second, I always felt the way that I do. I never wanted to see a live-action Venom in any capacity. I used to be a fan of the character but even then I never thought about seeing him in a movie. By 2000 I'd come to see him as an over-rated, overhyped, overused and over-exposed character who brought nothing new to the table and actually brought about some very bad storytelling. I was quite happy to learn that Raimi had no interest in using him. I remember way back in-I think it was '03, maybe '04-there was a poster on the boards who actually said "I hope the studio FORCES Raimi to use Venom!" I thought the idea was ridiculous and couldn't see it happening. Plus, his main reasons for wishing this stemmed from his professed hatred of Raimi's vision and his desire to see Venom on the screen.
And again, I actually prefer the movie version of both the black suit AND Venom to what we got in the comics.

[Ken-Kaniff]

The fact that SM3 made so much when it comes to box office numbers doesn't change the fact that it sucked.;)

[Chris Wallace]

"Suck" is opinion, not fact.

[Gianakin_]

SM3 had a certain audience going for it because of SM2. Word of mouth made it drop about 70% the 2nd weekend. It most certainly didn't flop, though SM4 would've, precisely because of SM3.

[Eggyman]

"Suck" is opinion, not fact.

Popular opinion, though.

[Chris Wallace]

Still doesn't make it fact. It could be a unanimous opinion & that still wouldn't make it fact. In any event, it's one that I don't personally share.

[Eggyman]

Still doesn't make it fact. It could be a unanimous opinion & that still wouldn't make it fact. In any event, it's one that I don't personally share.

Well then, you suck too. :cwink:

[Ken-Kaniff]

Still doesn't make it fact. It could be a unanimous opinion & that still wouldn't make it fact. In any event, it's one that I don't personally share.
Boo-hoo!

[Alex The Great]

Spider-Man 3 sucked. Get over it. Anyway, back to the suit....

[LegendaryCaleb]

Yeah SM3 was garbage...somewhat due to how they portrayed Venom...SM3's version of Venom was corny and only had a face for 2 minutes because Topher got tons of screentime like Tobey did (no one keeps their dang mask on in that movie)
Garbage all around.

[Alex The Great]

Agreed

Also, Sinister Eyes Please! :cmad:

[Parker Wayne]

First off, it didn't flop. Fanboys may have jeered the portrayal of their beloved symbiote stalker but it actually pulled down more money than its predecessor. if it had flopped there would have never been plans in place to do a 4th movie with Raimi & Co. Second, I always felt the way that I do. I never wanted to see a live-action Venom in any capacity. I used to be a fan of the character but even then I never thought about seeing him in a movie. By 2000 I'd come to see him as an over-rated, overhyped, overused and over-exposed character who brought nothing new to the table and actually brought about some very bad storytelling. I was quite happy to learn that Raimi had no interest in using him. I remember way back in-I think it was '03, maybe '04-there was a poster on the boards who actually said "I hope the studio FORCES Raimi to use Venom!" I thought the idea was ridiculous and couldn't see it happening. Plus, his main reasons for wishing this stemmed from his professed hatred of Raimi's vision and his desire to see Venom on the screen.
And again, I actually prefer the movie version of both the black suit AND Venom to what we got in the comics.

This. Venom to me was actually one of the good parts of the film because they written him how they always wanted him in the comics. Sneaky, conniving, dangerous, and homicidal.

Venom was always a great concept but was constantly poorly written.

[LegendaryCaleb]

I do love the Romita eyes...That Ross picture is near perfection

[Gianakin_]

Venom? I wish it was only Venom. Parker/Spidey's characterization was extremely off in SM3.

[LegendaryCaleb]

That too...Heck...Every character was off in SM3...and even the story was off...all the sudden Sandman is Uncle Bens killer...Give me a break.

[Ken-Kaniff]

That too...Heck...Every character was off in SM3...and even the story was off...all the sudden Sandman is Uncle Bens killer...Give me a break.
Very true man, very true.

[Ajendo]

Wouldn't be the worst idea. Or seeing him rush to class after a rescue-and actually MAKE it.

They did this a couple of times in the mtv spidey show, i loved moments like those.

[Chris Wallace]

That's what I was thinking of. I liked how he could drop into class, hear only a part of what the teacher said, and instantly know the answer. Or how he could be in class, be barely paying attention and still know.

[socool]

That's what I was thinking of. I liked how he could drop into class, hear only a part of what the teacher said, and instantly know the answer. Or how he could be in class, be barely paying attention and still know.
Haha.

Bendis made multiple cracks at that in USM. There a quite a few times where Peter day dreams in class, is called on, and doesn't know the answer.

Love those.

[spida-man]

lovely ppl still complaining about SM3...again

[Alex The Great]

We're all just butthurt. 3 Years of rabid anticipation and we got betrayed :csad:

[spida-man]

Except that it looks cinematically underwhelming, cheap and has no "wow" factor whatsoever. Do you honestly believe that your average moviegoer is gong to take to printed webbing and a more "homemade" approach to the costume after they have been wowed by the Raimi suit? The GA will probably react to it with a big old "LAME"

and that's exactly why the black suit in SM3 didn't look like the old school "classic" black suit.

[Alex The Great]

I liked the black suit, it was better than all black...

[spida-man]

We're all just butthurt. 3 Years of rabid anticipation and we got betrayed :csad:

i wouldn't say ppl got betrayed i just think ppl tricked themselves into thinking the story would be one way from over-analyzing the trailers and then the movie wasn't like how they thought it would be. honestly though..I truly believe if the stuff they deleted out of the film would have been kept in, more ppl would have enjoyed it. and i guess that's why i liked it cause i actually understood alot of the decisions that were made and understood the plot points and knew about the scenes that were cut out.

[Alex The Great]

The trailers were misleading! :argh:

[spida-man]

The trailers were misleading! :argh:

only if u overanalyzed it. a trailer is just a collection of clips and audi mashed together. it doesn't show you how the movies is going to be 100% exact

[Alex The Great]

Over analyzed it? There was no dancing Peter in the trailers. They showed a dark gritty Peter, not douchebag Peter :csad:

[Gianakin_]

i wouldn't say ppl got betrayed i just think ppl tricked themselves into thinking the story would be one way from over-analyzing the trailers and then the movie wasn't like how they thought it would be. honestly though..I truly believe if the stuff they deleted out of the film would have been kept in, more ppl would have enjoyed it. and i guess that's why i liked it cause i actually understood alot of the decisions that were made and understood the plot points and knew about the scenes that were cut out.

That's one way of looking at it, but understading the decisions being made and liking them is completely different. I understand why Raimi put the dance scenes in, but hated them.

Also, it's not 100% about expecting one thing and getting another that makes things go bad, it's if the thing you actually get is, well... bad. I expected Stranger than Fiction to be a typical Will Ferrell comedy and it turned out to be an existential drama. I liked the film because what I got was good nevertheless.

I know that this is the point where personal taste comes in and, believe me, I'll be the first to defend several scenes/aspects of SM3, but overall their direction was 85% wrong. Imo.

[Alex The Great]

Agreed. SM3 was a good movie. Just not anywhere near the first two

[El Payaso]

lovely ppl still complaining about SM3...again

Yes. It's still bad.

But I agree this is the wrong thread for it.

[the dmg]

Over analyzed it? There was no dancing Peter in the trailers. They showed a dark gritty Peter, not douchebag Peter :csad:
I liked the dancing. :woot:

[Doctor Jones]

Out of context, I thought it was funny and I liked it, but in the film itself, oh, man... it did not need to be there.

[echostation]

Should Spider-Man have multiple colorful costumes in the film? I think one awesome idea to totally throw people off is to make the public think that Spider-Man is MULTIPLE people much like Shakespeare was made up of multiple authors... By having different colored costumes like Shattered Dimensions video game then you can confuse the movie's other characters and high school characters and public because they'll be like wow multiple people must be spider-man, you have a group of Spider-Men protecting New York when it's all one person... it helps completely cover and hide Peter Parker's true identity better... ilahi

[Chris Wallace]

NO. There's no reason for him to go through multiple designs. I don't like that idea at all.

[echostation]

just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's a good idea... i mean think about the story potential

it could elevate it to V for Vendetta type stuff... multiple Vs.. we are we are weeee, league of Spider-Mans...

[Chris Wallace]

Spider-Man is not V. It's a bad idea. And it's so far removed from is character it's not even funny. And one of the reasons why V did that is because he knew he wouldn't be alive to carry out the revolution.
I remember there was this one-shot comic detailing a series of "discarded" costume designs that Batman supposedly came up with. (I don't remember what it was called but it wound up being the prelude to "Brotherhood Of The Bat", in which Ra's unearthed the designs and used them all.) On one page he considers alternating between multiple designs, but then nixes it, saying it would create the impression of a costumed "police foce"; the criminal alament must fear ONE dark figure of the night. A similar principle would apply to Spider-Man. There can only be one, and that must be known. One Spider-Man for Jameson to hate. One Spider-Man for criminals to fear. One Spider-Man for crowds to cheer. (those who don't buy into JJJ's crap) Not a gang of them.

[Ken-Kaniff]

just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's a good idea...l
It means it's not a good idea, because it's not. It doesn't define Spider-Man.

[Parker Wayne]

Spider-Man is not V. It's a bad idea. And it's so far removed from is character it's not even funny. And one of the reasons why V did that is because he knew he wouldn't be alive to carry out the revolution.
I remember there was this one-shot comic detailing a series of "discarded" costume designs that Batman supposedly came up with. (I don't remember what it was called but it wound up being the prelude to "Brotherhood Of The Bat", in which Ra's unearthed the designs and used them all.) On one page he considers alternating between multiple designs, but then nixes it, saying it would create the impression of a costumed "police foce"; the criminal alament must fear ONE dark figure of the night. A similar principle would apply to Spider-Man. There can only be one, and that must be known. One Spider-Man for Jameson to hate. One Spider-Man for criminals to fear. One Spider-Man for crowds to cheer. (those who don't buy into JJJ's crap) Not a gang of them.

This. Great as usual CW. :up:

[Alex The Great]

Spider-Man is not V. It's a bad idea. And it's so far removed from is character it's not even funny. And one of the reasons why V did that is because he knew he wouldn't be alive to carry out the revolution.
I remember there was this one-shot comic detailing a series of "discarded" costume designs that Batman supposedly came up with. (I don't remember what it was called but it wound up being the prelude to "Brotherhood Of The Bat", in which Ra's unearthed the designs and used them all.) On one page he considers alternating between multiple designs, but then nixes it, saying it would create the impression of a costumed "police foce"; the criminal alament must fear ONE dark figure of the night. A similar principle would apply to Spider-Man. There can only be one, and that must be known. One Spider-Man for Jameson to hate. One Spider-Man for criminals to fear. One Spider-Man for crowds to cheer. (those who don't buy into JJJ's crap) Not a gang of them.
Dude :yay::up:

[Alex The Great]

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2866/70181421.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/70181421.jpg/)

This is fantastic. They could this suit, slightly raise the black webbing. And I mean slightly, Not as raised as the original. My Lord this amazing :hrt:

[LegendaryCaleb]

That is infact the best comic style suit that could transfer on the big screen...If it aint like that I'll be disappointed!
Great Picture!

[Chris Wallace]

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2866/70181421.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/70181421.jpg/)

This is fantastic. They could this suit, slightly raise the black webbing. And I mean slightly, Not as raised as the original. My Lord this amazing :hrt:

I'd raise the symbol, too.

[Oscorp]

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2866/70181421.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/70181421.jpg/)

This is fantastic. They could this suit, slightly raise the black webbing. And I mean slightly, Not as raised as the original. My Lord this amazing :hrt:

That's great!

[Alex The Great]

I'd raise the symbol, too.
Well, duh :o

[Chris Wallace]

I'm thinking on the "slightly raised" web idea; Acheson's webbing was made separately and then grafted onto the fabric of the suit. Perhaps a less thick pattern could be achieved if they print the webbing first and then apply some sort of liquid vinyl directly onto the suit. Feasible?

[Alex The Great]

That could work :up:

[Chris Wallace]

That's the only way I can see achieving what you're talking about. There may be another, but I think it would be best.

[Alex The Great]

For the sinister eyes haters, view this

Spider-Man's appearance should be a little ominous... it's the 'friendly neighborhood' title he has that puts people at ease. Otherwise he just looks like a menace, but if you 'know' him, you know he's not

[LightningFlash]

I wouldn't raise anything on that picture, imo. That suit the way it is, I think, would look absolutely fine and absolutely incredible.

[Chris Wallace]

I still prefer the bigger lenses. I always have. He's not Batman. His costume is designed to entertain, not frighten.

[Mr. Earle]

The costume of the first movie was fine. Maybe they just need to tone down the webbing to make it look not only better, but also more appropriate for a high school kid with little money.

He is going to be in high school in the movie, right?

[Alex The Great]

I still prefer the bigger lenses. I always have. He's not Batman. His costume is designed to entertain, not frighten.
The hell? He's not in the circus :huh:

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Spider-Man originally made the costume for TV appearances and his wrestling gig, so yeah, he was trying to look flashy and entertaining, not intimidating.

[Alex The Great]

Yeah, but I doubt they're going to do the tv part of the origin. So if he makes the suit to fight criminals. You don't want to look like a circus freak. You want to be able to scare the criminals

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

If he wanted to scare them, he wouldn't be wise-cracking the entire time. Scary-Spidey is out of character.

[Eggyman]

Also, if he wanted to scare them, blue tights and red booties should be rethought.

[Alex The Great]

Also, if he wanted to scare them, blue tights and red booties should be rethought.
Heh, true

0_0 eyes would look ridiculous in real life

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Nobody's asking for enormous, anime-eyes, just big. It's part of his look, and it makes him stand out from the cowl/domino masked crowd.

[Alex The Great]

We had big eyes last time. I want to see how Sinister Eyes would look :up:

[Eggyman]

Alex, they'll look poo. That was easy. Now let's have big eyes.

[Alex The Great]

They were big-ish. I want to see more horizontal eyes :cmad:

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Well I don't. >:(

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

...okay, so that's not how you make the angry face. Live and learn.

[chaseter]

The costume of the first movie was fine. Maybe they just need to tone down the webbing to make it look not only better, but also more appropriate for a high school kid with little money.

He is going to be in high school in the movie, right?

If he is a high school kid with little money, he can't afford the tech to produce web shooters.

A little fantastical is alright.

[Alex The Great]

If he is a high school kid with little money, he can't afford the tech to produce web shooters.

A little fantastical is alright.
Yeah :cmad:

Wait a minute, i'm pro-mechanics. Screw you!

[Chris Wallace]

Spider-Man originally made the costume for TV appearances and his wrestling gig, so yeah, he was trying to look flashy and entertaining, not intimidating.

That's what I meant. And it's not like he decided afterwards, "Ok, my showbiz career is over. I need to make my suit look more menacing." That didn't happen. And it shouldn't. Taking on a fearsome appearance would only support Jameson's accusations.

[Chris Wallace]

Yeah, but I doubt they're going to do the tv part of the origin. So if he makes the suit to fight criminals. You don't want to look like a circus freak. You want to be able to scare the criminals

It's not like he ever said, "Ok-my showbiz career is over. I need to make my brightly colored tights look more menacing." That didn't happen. And it shouldn't. He kept the same costume he designed for entertainment purposes. Again, he's not Batman. He doesn't need to look scary and that's not his style. Plus, criminals know he's not really going to hurt them, so what would it gain? Trying to look scary would only support JJJ's accusations. Besides, being suspended upside down from a lamp post, trapped in sticky goo, is all the intimidation factor he'll ever need.

[Mr. Earle]

If he is a high school kid with little money, he can't afford the tech to produce web shooters.

A little fantastical is alright.
The web shooters are going to be mechanic again arent they? I prefered the biological ones.

[Alex The Great]

The thing is, those great big eyes will look goofy on screen :huh:

I remember there was a pilot for thye first Spider-Man movie and there was a tv spot that showed Spider-Man with the big curved eyes. It looked awful.

[Alex The Great]

The web shooters are going to be mechanic again arent they? I prefered the biological ones.
Not a sure thing yet. But odds are they go mechanicle so they can be original :shrug:

[Parker Wayne]

It's not like he ever said, "Ok-my showbiz career is over. I need to make my brightly colored tights look more menacing." That didn't happen. And it shouldn't. He kept the same costume he designed for entertainment purposes. Again, he's not Batman. He doesn't need to look scary and that's not his style. Plus, criminals know he's not really going to hurt them, so what would it gain? Trying to look scary would only support JJJ's accusations. Besides, being suspended upside down from a lamp post, trapped in sticky goo, is all the intimidation factor he'll ever need.

I don't like the big eyes because I just don't think it will look right on film. It looks right in the comics and in animation, but I'm not sure how it will look live action. I think it would just look weird if it looked bigger than Raimi's spiderman.

I think Raimi's Spiderman had the eyes at a decent size but I won't mind if looks a little smaller, not because it looks sinister, but because it just looks better on film. But don't make itt took small though.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

The eyes in the Raimi ones were a decent size, but they were also very triangular and shiny. Make them more rounded, and white instead of mirrored, and I'd be fine with that.

[Parker Wayne]

They could be made more rounded, but I think the look of the eyes in terms of color was fine. It looked pretty white in many scenes, if they went flat out white I just don't think it would've looked as good visually.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

I don't see how it wouldn't. Besides, mirrored surfaces cause problems in movies... just ask the folks from The Matrix.

[Chris Wallace]

I don't like the big eyes because I just don't think it will look right on film. It looks right in the comics and in animation, but I'm not sure how it will look live action. I think it would just look weird if it looked bigger than Raimi's spiderman.

I think Raimi's Spiderman had the eyes at a decent size but I won't mind if looks a little smaller, not because it looks sinister, but because it just looks better on film. But don't make itt took small though.

I don't want "Bagley" big. I just don't want "Dell'Otto" small either.

[chaseter]

Not a sure thing yet. But odds are they go mechanicle so they can be original :shrug:

That is unless this is a continuation with a new cast...sort of like Batman sans the reboot.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

It's not. That's long-since confirmed.

[mre]

That is unless this is a continuation with a new cast...sort of like Batman sans the reboot.

You mean like when they went from Batman Returns to Batman Forever right?

[Spider-ManHero12]

I don't want "Bagley" big. I just don't want "Dell'Otto" small either. Agreed, and Raimi's version nailed that perfectly which is one of the reasons why to this day, IMO, it's the greatest comic book to film costume ever. The eyes weren't too smaller, but also weren't too big.

[Alex The Great]

That is unless this is a continuation with a new cast...sort of like Batman sans the reboot.
No :dry:

[Gianakin_]

I'm in love with the costume on your avatar, Alex.

[Alex The Great]

:yay:

[chaseter]

No :dry:

It keeps going back and forth so I am a bit confused too. It was in High School then College and now it is back in High School. There was no MJ then there was MJ and now Gwen was cast before MJ. Bendis was consulting and now he isn't and then they hired Alvin Sargent to rewrite the script. Then the so called teaser poster looks exactly like the Raimi stuff.

I think there is a really good chance that this may be a continuation of the previous films or a pseudo reboot like TIH where the previous film isn't disregarded completely but it isn't 100% adhered to continuity wise either.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

And yet, in all of those things that went back and forth, there is nothing to indicate that it's a continuation. At all.

[Alex The Great]

It isn't. This has been confirmed

[chaseter]

And yet, in all of those things that went back and forth, there is nothing to indicate that it's a continuation. At all.

What is there to indicate that it is a complete reboot? Do you have the shooting script?

[Oscorp]

Agreed, and Raimi's version nailed that perfectly which is one of the reasons why to this day, IMO, it's the greatest comic book to film costume ever. The eyes weren't too smaller, but also weren't too big.

Imo, the Iron Man suit is definitely the best. It's as perfect as it can be. But the Spidey one is great too, 2nd in my list.

[Alex The Great]

What is there to indicate that it is a complete reboot? Do you have the shooting script?
They've said its a reboot. They're restarting.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

What is there to indicate that it is a complete reboot? Do you have the shooting script?

No. Do you have proof that the villain won't be Adolf Hitler in a tutu? No. Should I assume it will be? Of course not.

They've said it's a reboot many times. They're setting it in high school, and Peter already graduated in the previous trilogy. They're setting up Gwen Stacy as a main love interest, when she wasn't in the previous films until well after high school. I don't know what it is about those movies that's making you cling to the idea that it's just a recast and will be set in the same timeline, but let it go already.

[Oscorp]

^Very well said, good to see some people here making sense :up:

[Alex The Great]

No. Do you have proof that the villain won't be Adolf Hitler in a tutu? No. Should I assume it will be? Of course not.

They've said it's a reboot many times. They're setting it in high school, and Peter already graduated in the previous trilogy. They're setting up Gwen Stacy as a main love interest, when she wasn't in the previous films until well after high school. I don't know what it is about those movies that's making you cling to the idea that it's just a recast and will be set in the same timeline, but let it go already.
I love you now. This post, the username and the lack of numbers and proper spacing. It's nice. I like you kid, don't ruin it :fhm:

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

I'm also a fellow Canuck, y'know, if you needed another reason to like me.

[Alex The Great]

Who's your team in Hockey?

[chaseter]

They've said its a reboot. They're restarting.

TIH was a reboot yet they oddly still referenced the Ang Lee film.

[Alex The Great]

TIH was a sequel with different actors and different director.

[chaseter]

It wasn't a sequel. The flashbacks to his gamma accident were totally different than what was in Ang's film and it had some other changes but there were some references to events in the past movie. It did its own thing but still stayed in line with some of what was already established.

[Alex The Great]

Eh. Whatever

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Who's your team in Hockey?

I don't watch enough hockey (or any sports, for that matter) these days to really say, but I tend to lean toward the Leafs, since I live closer to Toronto than any other team's city, and they were my team back in high school. These days I usually only catch the big games, at which point I pretty much latch onto any Canadian team that's left. :p

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

there were some references to events in the past movie.

Been a while since I've seen it, what were those references?

[Troy_Parker]

Does chaseter think that the Spider-Man reboot is a continuation of the Raimi movies or something? :S

[Alex The Great]

I don't watch enough hockey (or any sports, for that matter) these days to really say, but I tend to lean toward the Leafs, since I live closer to Toronto than any other team's city, and they were my team back in high school. These days I usually only catch the big games, at which point I pretty much latch onto any Canadian team that's left. :p
As a Sens fan, you do realize I hate you now, right? :cmad:

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Hey, I said I cheer for any Canadian team that makes it to the play-offs... so, y'know, if that ever happens for the Sens, I'll be on board. ;)

[mre]

I don't watch enough hockey (or any sports, for that matter) these days to really say, but I tend to lean toward the Leafs, since I live closer to Toronto than any other team's city, and they were my team back in high school. These days I usually only catch the big games, at which point I pretty much latch onto any Canadian team that's left. :p

I am from Canada, and been across the country and... I've never heard of someone who doesn't have a team in Hockey... Especially Leafs fans. Leafs fans always tell you that they are Leafs fans.

[Mace Bloodstone]

this is a pretty good homemade costume

http://i52.tinypic.com/2ufg7t4.jpg

[Alex The Great]

Post that again, and I will be forced to destroy you

[BrollySupersj]

this is a pretty good homemade costume

http://i52.tinypic.com/2ufg7t4.jpg

Yeah, and I've had sex with Sara Jay.:doh:

[Alex The Great]

Heh :o

[Parker Wayne]

What's with people's obssession with fat guys in Spiderman costumes?

[LegendaryCaleb]

What's with people's obssession with fat guys in Spiderman costumes?
ever since Tobey in 3.....



haha jp Tobey was still cut
but it is kinda weird..

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

I am from Canada, and been across the country and... I've never heard of someone who doesn't have a team in Hockey... Especially Leafs fans. Leafs fans always tell you that they are Leafs fans.

Yeah, I'm something of an anomaly. Honestly, I'm just not often in the mood for sports unless something is on the line. I'll watch the Olympic games, and the play-offs, but exhibition games just don't hold my interest most of the time.

[chaseter]

Does chaseter think that the Spider-Man reboot is a continuation of the Raimi movies or something? :S

No...I think that they are going to do something TIH or Casino Royale style in that it will be a mixture of both. It won't be a complete reboot nor will it be a 100% faithful continuation.

[Gianakin_]

Casino Royale was a total reboot. TIH wasn't though, I agree.

[Paste Pot Pete]

It's like There's a sliding scale that goes from full-on reboot to full-on sequel.

Batman Begins - Full on Reboot, starting completely fresh
Incredible Hulk/Punisher: War Zone - Reboot that can serve vaguely as sequel
Superman Returns - Sequel, but with vague continuity
Batman Forever - Sequel, with continuity but different aesthetics & tone
TDK/Spider-Man 2 & 3 - Full on sequel, continuing the story with same cast

[chaseter]

Casino Royale was a total reboot. TIH wasn't though, I agree.

Was Judi Dench a totally new character?

[Chris Wallace]

TIH was a reboot yet they oddly still referenced the Ang Lee film.

In what way?

[Gianakin_]

Was Judi Dench a totally new character?

Yup. The producers have stated that they took the risk of confusing the audience because they liked her so much and wanted to keep her.

[chaseter]

In Hulk, he left society and went to South America. In TIH, he started off in South America. TIH also slightly referenced the events of the past movie like him being hunted down by General Ross and having left Betty. However, his origin flashbacks were completely different than what was shown in Hulk. It was a reboot in the sense that it was an entirely new cast and an entirely new origin but the past events that were referenced fit in with Hulk's continuity.

[Chris Wallace]

Ross was hunting him for completely different reasons. He had a completely different origin. I saw no connection between one movie and the other apart from him going to South America. Just like when people try to link Punisher & War Zone. How can you when there's two totally different stories?

[chaseter]

Yup. The producers have stated that they took the risk of confusing the audience because they liked her so much and wanted to keep her.

She was the exact same character as she was in the Brosnan era. All of the Bond movies when switching actors are not reboots each time. Have you noticed that they never redo villains? Bond being a relic of the Cold War, something Dench said, also fits in line with the continuity of the series. Daniel Craig wasn't out 007-ing in the 60s...he would have been 5 years old.

The word reboot is so loosely tossed around here. A reboot is a complete start over from scratch.

[chaseter]

Ross was hunting him for completely different reasons. He had a completely different origin. I saw no connection between one movie and the other apart from him going to South America. Just like when people try to link Punisher & War Zone. How can you when there's two totally different stories?
The two movies are connected...you can watch Hulk and then TIH and they fit together apart from a different cast and some minor retconning. It was like they were paying homage to Ang Lee's film while also trying to do their own thing. Plus, the GA isn't going to know Hulk's origin or why he is running from Ross and Hulk explains all of that.

[Gianakin_]

Double the fun.

[Gianakin_]

She was the exact same character as she was in the Brosnan era. All of the Bond movies when switching actors are not reboots each time. Have you noticed that they never redo villains? Bond being a relic of the Cold War, something Dench said, also fits in line with the continuity of the series. Daniel Craig wasn't out 007-ing in the 60s...he would have been 5 years old.

She said that to Brosnan in GE. In CR she said "God, I miss the Cold War" to one of her secretaries.

They wanted to redo SPECTRE, but they had lost the rights. Quantum is what we got instead.

And she is a different character, check the CR DVD. CR was a reboot.

The word reboot is so loosely tossed around here. A reboot is a complete start over from scratch.

I know what it is. Bond was rebooted.

[Mr.?]

She was the exact same character as she was in the Brosnan era. All of the Bond movies when switching actors are not reboots each time. Have you noticed that they never redo villains? Bond being a relic of the Cold War, something Dench said, also fits in line with the continuity of the series. Daniel Craig wasn't out 007-ing in the 60s...he would have been 5 years old.

The word reboot is so loosely tossed around here. A reboot is a complete start over from scratch.
Yeah but nitpicking that and not calling it a reboot is like saying Batman Begins isn't a reboot because it has the character of Batman in it who was also in the Burton and Schumacher films.

[chaseter]

Yeah but nitpicking that and not calling it a reboot is like saying Batman Begins isn't a reboot because it has the character of Batman in it who was also in the Burton and Schumacher films.

Batman Begins was a reboot because they don't reference anything in Burton or Schumacher's films and TDK had the Joker and Two Face in it.

Reboot is such a loose word thrown around here. There are so many things in between a reboot and a sequel but people just say reboot I guess because it conveys a more powerful meaning than any other terms. If this is in High School, then it is a reboot as they are retelling a story that was already told. If this is in college and Gwen is with Peter now after him and MJ broke up, then that isn't a reboot even though we have a whole new cast.